Time for a Marriott boycott?

I'm with you on the boycott.

Keith Thomas, Marriott Special Services Department, Corporate Headquarters, November 16, 2005: “Due to the high density of Muslim students on the Georgetown campus, members of the staff at Marriott Georgetown were afraid of the potential for violent protests.

Want to drive Marriott into corporate insanity? Just claim that they're being RACIST for implying that Muslims are more violent than other groups.

Send those emails. Act like a liberal or a Muslim. Say you are outraged that Marriott thinks Muslims are violent and bases their policy on their racist attitudes.

Marriott's public relations department will have a serious epidemic of Exploding Head Syndrome.

#1 zombie 12/3/2005 11:39PM PST
Time for a Marriott boycott?

UPDATE at 12/3/05 11:42:09 pm:
Atlas calls for a boycott.

Great bodies minds think alike.

What absolute bull shit!

Boycott the Marriott

Their fear of Muslims proves all the critics, Warraq, Fallaci, Spencer, Fitzgerald, and Sina, right. If they were at all afraid of offending other religions there wouldn't be a knee-jerk appeasement reaction only when Muslims are involved. Only the violent are rewarded. What a country!

Business plan #1 Boycott a non violent group trying to explain the dangers of another violent group. The Violent group will still exist but we should be low on their target list now.

Maybe live today with a fight or die later when they rule. Not at all a 6 of one half dozen of the other argument in my book,
The sooner you stand against this crap the better off you are. It’s coming just when.

People and companies get away with this crap because they are physically afraid of muslim reaction and they aren't affraid of 'others' (i.e. non-muslims). They can piss on us and not worry about having their business destroyed or thier lives threatened.

Look at the design of the flight 93 memorial. Would they do something that offensive to Muslims? I doubt it.

We see how Europe cowers in the face of implied threats from muslims. Is that going to be the fate that awaits this country? I hope not.

The funny part of this is, muslims are going to pissed off at the implication that they are violent. Marriott has managed to get everyone mad at them.

Now that's bad business.

-A note for and rabid lefties who might see this...no, I am not saying non-muslims should resort to violence.

Isn't the Marriott family LDS?

I didn't think Utah did dhimmitude ...
:-(

Wasn't Marriot's majority stockholders and founding family Mormon? WTF. Perhaps they are just trying to 'enable the eschaton', and thereby justify all of those souls they have converted posthumously.

Marriott's email Webform with which you can mail comments and complaints.

Marriott's phone, snail mail and fax contact info page.

You know, this [expletive deleted] has got to stop before it's too late.

What will it take before "average Americans" get a clue as to the greater Islamic agenda?

/too bad more people don't read LGF and thank God at least some people with media presence and an audience do

Send email to Marriott.com, they say they'll have a customer care rep look into it. Take zombie's suggestion, it feels good, do it!

"On August 5, 2003, a Marriott located in Jakarta, Indonesia, was the target of a monstrous explosion set off via a car bomb. 14 people were killed and nearly 150 injured, including two Americans. The terrorist that took his life, in order to achieve his goal, didn't care about whether or not his sensibilities were being tended to. The only thing he cared about was taking innocent lives with him."

Wotta buch of frekaing morons ...

Time for a blogswarm!
:-)

Contact and info page about the Georgetown Marriott Hotel and Conference Center.

Give the people at the specific hotel grief as well, so they can report the feedback to corporate HQ second-hand.

Do this in additon to the contacts suggested in comment #11.

And remember to employ the strategy in comment #3 if you can.

I have a cousin, who last time I checked in with her was pretty high up in the Marriott company. I will try to contact her to get what info I can and to let her know that a HUGE group of her customers has a real problem with this decision and policy.

Marriot just lost any future business from my company, unless this is rectified.

So long, Marriot!

General corporate information:

Marriott International, Inc., (NYSE:MAR) is a leading worldwide hospitality company with nearly 2,700 operating units in the United States and 65 other countries and territories.

Marriott Lodging operates and franchises hotels under the following brands:

Marriott Hotels & Resorts
JW Marriott Hotels & Resorts
Renaissance Hotels & Resorts
Courtyard by Marriott
Residence Inn by Marriott
Fairfield Inn by Marriott
Marriott Conference Centers
TownePlace Suites by Marriott
SpringHill Suites by Marriott
Marriott Vacation Club International
Horizons by Marriott
The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company, L.L.C.
The Ritz-Carlton Club
Marriott ExecuStay
Marriott Executive Apartments
Marriott Grand Residence Club

Didn't Marriot pull some similar shit earlier this year out in Gaithersburg or Rockville with some other group they found controversial, while citing their apparent approbation as being a mere 'business' deciscion?

The boycott indeed is good but we need to pick a Hotel we don't boycott. With the effect of pushing these types all to one place. All targets in one location makes it much easier to dialogue with them.
Foxtrot Charlie target is a 142 n 122e fire for effect.

I went to Georgetown. The Campus Muslim group wasn't radical at all. Mayve they've changed in the last 2 years but, when I was there, they didn't seem any mroe xtreme than your normal campus leftist group.

Hello, room service, I'd like the Pulled Pork Samich and an order of fries. Ya...About that...

#20 MickC

The Campus Muslim group wasn't radical at all. Mayve they've changed

Muslims have changed all over the world. 9/11 woke a few people up in democracies, but really emboldened Islam. The Muslim 'Reformation' people claim they want is underway. Sunnis are becoming Wahhabis. Shia are following the mullahs in Iran.

What is actually needed is a Muslim Enlightenment. That would be considered "innovation" by the Wahhabis who run over 70% of the mosques in the U.S., the worst offense against Islam according to Wahhabi / Salafist ideology.

Here's a good email address to send your opinions to:

investorrelations@marriott.com

Just did my civic duty..felt good!

I see this with a lot of concern. Now Americans will beging to cave in, following Europe's steps. I pray not, I really do. Who's gonna be brave enough to face those monsters?
Sorry for talking about the USA, but what happens to your country happens to the world one way or another. Let's pray all.

Here's some interesting emails to add to your contact list:

simon.cooper@marriott.com - Simon Cooper, Divisional President

thomas.marder@marriott.com -- Thomas Marder, unsure of position or current status at the company.

I'm no Islamic expert, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

Ha!

I travel a LOT (~2+ million airline miles) and Marriott just ticked down my list of "preferred properties".

# 26 z

"Thomas Marder, unsure of position or current status at the company."

Well, then maybe the poor sap doesn't deserve 100 angry E-mails!
:-)

# 26 z

OK, a quick Mooter search reveals dude is high up in either investor relations or public relations -- tho perhaps only through '04 -- but he's fair game!
:-)

#21 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hello, room service, I'd like the Pulled Pork Samich and an order of fries. Ya...About that...

Won't be on the menu... Might lead to potential violent protests, injured hotel employees and property damage.

#23 MigueldowninMexico

I see this with a lot of concern. Now Americans will beging to cave in, following Europe's steps. I pray not, I really do. Who's gonna be brave enough to face those monsters?

Nobody in any present position of power. Time for a new social/political paradigm and structure my friend, and it all begins right here. The time for oraganization and action is rapidly slipping away from us. We all must become as evangelists and bring as many as we can to the new town square and overwhelm the old order before it crushes the new in its infancy.

Then again, the hotel bars might as well shut down RIGHT NOW. Not only does it encourage the "evil smoking habit", but might also lead to potential violent protests, injured hotel employees and property damage.

Damn these corporate executives are good at hiding their email addresses. So far the ones above are the only ones I could find for sure.

I have decoded the general email address system within Marriott -- firstname.lastname@marriott.com. Thus, the following emails probably work, based on the official list of their corporate execs:

carl.berquist@marriott.com
edwin.fuller@marriott.com
gilbert.grosvenor@marriott.com
brendan.keegan@marriott.com
lawrence.kellner@marriott.com
...etc.

No guarantees, but worth a try. Just cut and paste them in. Just use the same system for any of the names (leaving out middle initials) on the list of corporate officers linked to above.

Spread the love around.

I don't see it as pandering to Islamic extremism, so much as cowardace. The thought of pissing off muslims makes some people shit their pants.

Now, hosting CAIR, is pandering. I hope they get STD's from fellating Ibrahim Hooper, one of the most sublimely evil pricks that ever walked the face of the planet.

What is one of the alleged conspirators doing in our nation? Why is that bastard still breathing?

#35 Orson Buggy
The thought of pissing off muslims makes some people shit their pants.

Which is exactly why the strategy outlined in comment #3 will be so devastating: make Marriott afraid that they've infuriated Muslims when Marriott implied that Muslims are a violent group. Their policy of trying to avoid Muslim anger by cancelling the conference will only backfire and lead to even more Muslim anger! We've got to keep Marriott in a public relations paradox from which there can be no escape.

#36 zombie

You are pure evil. I love it!

Re French face transplant case -

Both of them were suicides.

[Link: news.independent.co.uk...]

The "donor" had hanged herself. The recipient lost part of her face after she took an overdose of sleeping pills and her dog tried to revive her.

[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]

Is it just me, or does this sound weird?

Sometimes when I wake up in the wee hours and read the news, I get this Twilight Zone feeling...

#36 zombie

We've got to keep Marriott in a public relations paradox from which there can be no escape.

Hold the conference... The risk of violence.
Cancel the conference... The risk of labeling Muslims as violent.

Checkmate.

VERY stupid move on their part.

How is this even possible?

Dr. Saad Jawad is a university professor who was known to speak out against certain Baathist policies. But he recently said, “To tell the truth, in the time of Saddam Hussein, we used to speak to our students freely.… But now, a lot of people are not willing to say these kinds of things because of fear.”

[Link: www.workers.org...]

Load of Bull

and

Who killed Zia — Mossad?

[Link: www.khaleejtimes.com...]

Marriott's fear of violence should they allow an anti-terrorism conference on their property is very valid.

And that is the point that should be widely publicized.

Keith Thomas, Marriott Special Services Department, Corporate Headquarters, November 16, 2005: “Due to the high density of Muslim students on the Georgetown campus, members of the staff at Marriott Georgetown were afraid of the potential for violent protests, injured hotel employees and property damage. This is the official stance of the Marriott Corporation.”

Just getting that statement out --- "Marriott fears muslim violence" -- would say it all.

Three approaches that should all be used together:

1) Every conservative and pro-American blog and talk radio host should be informed and encouraged to publicize that statement.

2) Consumers concerned about free speech should inform Marriott of their "disappointment" with Marriott's stance to honor fear over freedom.

--and most especially--

3) CAIR should be encouraged to object to Marriott's prejudice that muslims cause violence.

Marriott has "slurred" muslim students. Marriott has assumed that muslims will injure people and cause property damage.

PR Contact Info for Marriott. Write them!

elizabeth.caminiti@marriott.com
colleen.evans@marriott.com
mark.indre@marriott.com
thomas.marder@marriott.com
june.farrell@marriott.com

zombie
Max
others?

Ah, I see we think alike :-)

Who are the talk radio people that I can send e-mails to suggesting they protest Marriott's "racist" slur against muslims?

I know there's Rush Limbaugh, but who else?

#41 nonic
--and most especially--

3) CAIR should be encouraged to object to Marriott's prejudice that muslims cause violence.

Precisely! Great minds really do think alike.

Add the email below to your list: act outraged in your emails to CAIR that Marriott has insulted Muslims. Get CAIR to attack Marriott for their prejudiced attitude:

CAIR contact page, including the CAIR email:

cair@cair-net.org

#43 nonic
Who are the talk radio people that I can send e-mails to suggesting they protest Marriott's "racist" slur against muslims?

I know there's Rush Limbaugh, but who else?

I'm not up on the talk-radio scene. Maybe someone else can track down the best names and contact info.

There's Michael Savage, Bill O'Reilly, Jeff Katz (in the SF area), Glenn Beck, and, uh...I'm out of names.

#12 Killian

What will it take before "average Americans" get a clue as to the greater Islamic agenda?

Publicity.

MSM doesn't do it. It's up to the blogs, conservative talk radio, and individual people to get the message out.

Letters and e-mails to Marriott -- but don't stop there -- to editorial writers, elected representatives, the ACLU, and CAIR.

CAIR should be infuriated that Marriott has assumed muslim violence.

#42 nextmike

Excellent! We already got Thomas Marder, but the other ones are all fresh info. Add them to your list, everyone!

I added my angry letter to the Marriott execs AND on their webform to all of yours.

Seems all I do these days is write angry letters to all the shortsighted suicidal people in this country. The list just keeps getting longer. :-(

zombie, as a marketer, I appreciate the fact that the PR people will be hyper-sensitive to this sort of thing and so wrote this letter (some copy borrowed from a fellow boycotter):

"I read a commentary (on several websites already!) in which it was stated that Marriott Corporate denied The People's Truth Forum conference space based on the following: "Keith Thomas, Marriott Special Services Department, Corporate Headquarters, November 16, 2005: “Due to the high density of Muslim students on the Georgetown campus, members of the staff at Marriott Georgetown were afraid of the potential for violent protests, injured hotel employees and property damage. This is the official stance of the Marriott Corporation.”

Yet, Marriot Corporation granted CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) accomadations in Arlington, VA at the Crystal Gateway Marriot. CAIR is a self-proclaimed Muslim advocacy group that has its roots in the Palestinian Hamas. CAIR’s parent organization, the Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP), was founded by Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook. CAIR itself has had several of its officials convicted in and/or deported by the United States for terrorist activity.

I am extremely alarmed by this and interpret it as Marriott Corporation's apathy (if not condonement of) towards terrorist activity against the United States. It would seem that Marriott Corporation has a policy of appeasement towards what Marriott has essentially defined as "violent Muslim students", yet denies a conference concerning freeing everyone, including Marriott, from the need of such appeasement. Perhaps Marriot Corporation prefers subjugation rather than its right of freedom?

As a Marriott Rewards member and customer who was considering switching from Holiday Inn (almost 100 days last year), I find this quite troubling.

Please respond with an explanation of this stance. If I can't get an acceptable explanation as to the corporation's behavior, I will no longer stay with the Marriott and likewise encourage my colleagues to boycott Marriott.

Finally, I think you will find, with the rapid spread of this story on the Web, many other customers with similar sentiments.

Mike

#45 zombie

Hi.

I haven't seen any TV in about 25 years. And I only listen to a classical music radio station 24/7.

Used to listen to NPR, but after I heard the same crappy leftist... crap for the thousand and tenth time, I moved the dial to a seriously, seriously good station WWFM that's apparently available in NJ, PA, and Steamboat Springs, CO -- ?

Should you be interested and in one of those areas, WWFM has a website [Link: www.wwfm.org...]

Don't subscribe to any paper newspapers anymore or news magazines.

Get all my info and intel off the internet -- which is why the UN/EU wanting to f*ck that up is another of my particular pet peeves.

:-)

There's a "good news about Iraq" show on FNC right now.

Here are Emails for some Radio Talk show hosts that I write to:

myword@foxnews.com (John Gibson)
alrantel@aol.com, (Al Rantel, Los Agneles)
oreilly@foxnews.com (Bill OReilly)
Dkadye (Captain Dale Dye, Los Angeles)
mcintyre@kabc.com (Doug McIntyre, Los Angeles)
hhewitt@hughhewitt.com (Hugh Hewitt) johnandken@johnandkenshow.com (Los Angeles) sage@larryelder.com (Larry Elder)
lars@larslarson.com (Lars Larson)
rush@eibnet.com (Rush)
seanshow@abc.co (Hannity)
heytammybruce@yahoo.com (Tammy Bruce, Los Angeles)
tonysnow@foxnews.com (Tony Snow)

I got this auto-response from Thomas Marder already. Doesn't say if he will be checking email tomorrow or when...

I am out of the office on Friday, December 2 and will not be checking email. Please call John Wolf at 301 380 5718 for immediate assistance.

Got another email failure...

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

lawrence.kellner@marriott.com
gilbert.grosvenor@marriott.com
edwin.fuller@marriott.com

Media addresses

I'll bet the e-mails are failing because their e-mail buffers are full! Zombie rules.

j

I just e-mailed the Marriott Corporation to let them know that I will boycott all Marriott hotels and I will urge all of my family, friends and co-workers to boycott Marriott hotels until the Marriott Corporation stops capitulating to Muslims and Islam.

It does feel good.

Ah-hah!

New York Times Sunday Magazine article on muslim honor killings in Germany...

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

This is the Peter Schneider piece that appeared in the International Herald Tribune and was lined at LGF yesterday or the day before.

#52 Stuck-in-CA

Thanks. :-)

My pleasure, nonic!

#55 Miguel

Whoa, that's a saver!

Thanks. :-)

#55 Miguel
#61

Oh, I didn't realize (till just now, pasting and saving it on my hard drive) that that list is an LGF "product."

Guess I need to get around more. :-)

American corporations are so into spineless public relations, marketing plans and discrimination lawsuits that they have the backbone of sponge rubber

#63 nonic
My pleasure :) I didn't say a thing, because I thought it'd be a surprise for some minions lol. Another feature of Charles' capabilities. He's really valuable.

er, make that #62 please
PIMF indeed.

Oooh - I just did a web search on Marriott Hotels in Israel and found THIS:

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

Basically, they sent a letter to an Israeli travel agent claiming that Jerusalem is in "Palestinian Occupied Territory"...

ANOTHER reason to boycott...

This reminds me of a problem marriot had a couple of years ago with Israel.Anti-Israel Address-snopes.com.
I think there is a trend with this chain and
should be boycotted...

Marriot calls Jersualem "occupied"

One of the largest hotel chains with hotels all around the world, the Marriott Hotel Chain, recently wrote a letter to the chairman of Erez Travel and Tourism, Uzi Yalon, in which his address was listed as: "Yerushalayim, Occupied Palestinian Area". The Marriott Hotel chain is based in Washington, and its hotels have served as popular convention sites for many Jewish organizations, including the Conference of Jewish Presidents, and many Israeli delegations to Washington have stayed at the hotel.

Read more at a crappy little Boycott Israelsite.

The web site I referred to calls this "just an urban legend". Marriott wants to do business in Israel so logic has it that they really aren't pro-Arab/anti-Israel.

I think this latest incident proves that this is more than just a "legend".

#66
Hello Westbankmama :) What's with this desire of becoming dhimmis? I'm beginning to think that the Devil has to do with it, and believe me I'm not going around seeing the evil one everywhere, on the contrary, I always see the world as filled with God, a beautiful creation of His, but in this case, so many people, in all latitudes...I guess the world needs quite a few exorcisms. The Catholic Church which is not into seeing Sheetan everywhere, has been stressing the whole thing about exorcism in the last few months. Call me crazy if you want, but I'm more convinced by the hour.
Vade retro, Satan! - I guess it translates as: Get thee away from me, Satan!
Unfortunately I'm affraid it is part of the explanation.

#63 Jakester

American corporations are so into spineless public relations, marketing plans and discrimination lawsuits that they have the backbone of sponge rubber

I agree with you. But to be fair, they're in a tough spot.

They may be in a situation where they are prohibited by their insurance companies from certain behavior, or they can't get coverage.

Also, say some jihadi kills a customer/client, and the family sues for "wrongful death" because they didn't have sufficient security, and they get hit with such damages that they get put out of business.

I think a recent case against the NY/NJ Port Authority who own the site of the WTC for insufficient security that "allowed" the 1993 bombing just went against them.

Also, if you're a company, you need to protect your employees, or nobody will work for you.

It's a tough spot to be in.

But... it also provides an opportunity to pressure companies, like Marriott.

They -- in some ways, legitimately -- refused the anti-terrorism conference out of fear of violence.

But that can also be used against them. And particularly against the people they're afraid of.

Publicity, publicity, publicity.

"Marriott fears muslims."

CAIR and other muslim organizations should (hopefully, will) object to this.

I will be calling the Media Center as a freelance writer and asking for an official explanation. I recommend anyone who writes for major media, a blog, for their local paper, blockwatch log, anyone who writes down lottery numbers or their grocery list on a paper bag, to do the same. Make Marriot put more clumsy words into the public record. To apologize for calling Muslim students "violent," means to have no excuse to block the anti-terror convention.

Funny lizardoids. They choose a very open space, visited by lots of people...to cook a plan that -well, seems not to be of the kind one shares with just anyone.
/Just saying.

#70 Miguel

Don't worry. You're not the only "nutsy" (said affectionately) who suspects there might be a "bigger" explanation.

You mention the Church's renewed interest in exorcism. I noticed that, too.

Also, IIRC it was just after 9/11 that JP2 instituted the new mysteries of the Rosary. Granted, those must have been in the works for a while, but, then, why?

Don't want to get too esoteric here --- this is not a site for discussing religion -- but have you ever wondered about the Fatima "secret"?

JP2 was the last living pope Sister Lucy was able to tell it to.

#72 Tokyobk

To apologize for calling Muslim students "violent," means to have no excuse to block the anti-terror convention.

Exactly. And brilliant.

#73

Its not a suprise birthday party. All campaigns are known to be planned. The last thing Marriot wants is attention. That people are planning ways to expose them on a very public website is a great thing. I think. Though, I know what you mean.

#72 nonic
Bull's eye in everything! Even the nutty part lol. Yes there's a bigger dimension for sure, and I guess the secret of Fatima will become evident for a lot of people soon. It's very interesting to think that the two women's names that appear in the Coran with the maximum respect and honor are: Miriam and Fatima. What a coincidence right? The Virgin of Guadalupe, Patroness of America and the Philippines, is STANDING ON A HALF MOON. Very interesting data indeed. ;)

Sorry, "America" in Mexico means the whole continent from pole to pole. Our Lady is Patroness of America and Fils.

#75

Man, I can't wait for CAIR to demand sensitivity training for the Marriot employees. Time to pay the Jiyza, Marriot. Money to CAIR for sensitivity training. Even Jesse Jackson couldn't pull that off. If there wasn't so much at stake it would be funny to see Ibraham Hooper verbally abusing some cowering Dhimmi slob, after all the Amish have been known to behead school girls too. Stupid Kuffir must have been reading the news again.

To allow him to learn the truth about Islam = Peace, he should be transfered to the Marriot Mecca where... oh wait, infidels aren't allowed to set foot in Mecca.

#74 nonic Morning! What the heck is the Fatima "secret"?

Hello realwest! I couldn't answer you the other day, but the fact that that was my 500th post means that I will be praying for you every day. That's the best way I can celebrate the milestone. :) God bless you.

# 80 realwest
Some info about Fatima.

Well, got to go. Good morning/afternoon/night. God bless everybody. :)

Hmm...I spend 100+ nights a year with Marriott and have carried Platinum status with them for the past 6 years running. I wonder how they'll respond when I complain about this.

#80 realwest

Well, for my part, I don't want to start any discussions about religion.

You can certainly find out for yourself by searching (I always use Yahoo, but I understand other people like google) for "Fatima."

It's in Wikipedia, too.

Regarding my reticence -- no big deal. I just don't want, personally, to get a religion thing going that some people might find problematic.

This isn't the place for it. Probably Charles wouldn't appreciate it.

:-)

81 MigueldowninMexico - "I will be praying for you every day."
Thank you very much, your prayers are appreciated and welcomed.
Good luck to you my friend.

#86 realwest

Excuse me, don't intend to pry, but do you have a health problem?

I would certainly like to offer my prayers for you, too.

Hope all is, or will be, well.

# 85 nonic

Spoilsport.

One event at the Marriott that I will not be boycotting... A ZOA dinner honoring John Bolton and Caroline Glick at the NY Marriott

Link Here

. Concurrently, another Marriott Hotel in the Washington area is hosting the Council on American- Islamic Relations' annual conference – and participating as a panelist at the gala will be an alleged coconspirator of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

can someone get me a ticket.
need to set up a kool aid table.

#88 Mike

Spoilsport.

LOL

Hey, you're free to do what you like. I just don't want to be personally responsible for "starting something" that people might consider inappropriate to the place and time.

:-)

G'day from Down Under and it's almost Monday

:-(

Can anyone give me some information about cable TV in the US. I'd love to find out the cost of connecting, the cost of different plans per month etc as I'm positive we are being ripped off here big time

When I have the numbers for the US I'll either feel better or feel very cross

I know that we are have a small population and there is only one company in cable - the other two went broke so that must be factored in but...

After reading previous threads about movie ticket prices - $7 ? $10 ? Our prices are $14.50 (Aussie) in the big chains except for Tuesdays That's about $17 US I think

#86 realwest

Are you still there?

Hi and here's a get well {realwest} for you! Saw on a previous thread you were not so good -

One does not have to wonder what is happening with respect to the world's attitude towards Israel. You don't need to ponder the "Fatima Secret". The Bible makes it clear...for instance, read Zechariah, chapters 12,13 and 14.

The below article is quite eye opening...the author's book, moreso...

[Link: www.thebereancall.org...]

# 91 nonic

What ? Me start something ? Heaven forbid (so to speak) !

#92 Aussie
Here in the southern portion of the states we pay between 50 - 90 dollars US for cable. It all depends on which programming package you get. We have what is called Basic cable that contains alll local channels along with some of the what I call learning channels such as Discovery, History, etc. We pay for what is called Premium channels such as HBO, Showtime separately. These channels range from 10 -12 a piece.
Where the cable companies get us is for instance they may have MSNBC, and CNN, (2 news channels) in a package but in order to get Fox you would have to purchase the next higher level package. It is very confusing here also.

I only have one word for the Marriott:

Traitors.

#96 Just_A_Grunt

Hi - thanks - OK that sounds about similar to what we are paying, our basic has Fox news (thank heavens) and also CNN (but we get the regional one from Hong Kong), Skynews and BBC.

Then we pay extra for Showtime which we are thinking of getting rid of - it's easier to get a DVD of a movie that you want to watch at a time you want to watch it

I suppose it's all covered in snow where you are? It's a really warm night here - and it's been hot all day -

aussiemaggie

I pay about 53 dollars for my satellite link (Dish Network) I think it's a rip off, but many pay much more especially if they want the movie channels. I think most cable bills are in the 30 to 60 dollar dollar range.

In the old days of big dish (C-Band Satellite) they had ala carte pricing so you just paid for what you wanted to see. Now they bundle programming so that to get the programming you want, you have to buy a lot you don't want. This is the ripoff I alluded to.

New York - The ZOA has expressed deep concern that President George W. Bush, in a major speech in Annapolis yesterday, omitted any mention of the Jewish state of Israel when referring to countries that have been victim of Islamist terrorism. Israel is of course Islamist terrorism's most consistent target. In his speech, President Bush said, "The terrorists in Iraq share the same ideology as the terrorists who struck the United States on September the 11th. Those terrorists share the same ideology with those who blew up commuters in London and Madrid, murdered tourists in Bali, workers in Riyadh, and guests at a wedding in Amman, Jordan. Just last week, they massacred Iraqi children and their parents at a toy give-away outside an Iraqi hospital"

like gen patton said, if there had been any russians there, i would have mentioned them, i dont like them, but i would have mentioned them.
/bad joke,
pres bush didnt want to offend any terrorists in the audience by mentioning jews.
/im in a quagmire here,
and the quote wont go off.

#99 EddieP

Hi - so it seems to be much the same over there. We get stuff we don't want too - but then have to pay extra for another package of channels to get just the one we want!

OK I don't feel quite so ripped off now - at least we aren't alone in the great cable rip-off!

I wish I was like nonic who hasn't watched telly in 25 years - but I love my TV - almost as much as my computer

#96 Just a Grunt

between 50 - 90 dollars US for cable

Is that per year or per month or what?

I don't think cable is available where I am (semi-rural). I see a lot of houses with satellite dishes.

But I gave up all TV about 25 years ago. So, don't know - don't care.

But curious about that price...?

Hi and here's a get well {realwest} for you! Saw on a previous thread you were not so good -

aussie,
he probably took his cancer meds and passed out.
one of many vietnam vets still fighting for their lives.
we are
agent orange club,
life time members.

TV

Incidentally, I raised 5 kids (now 19 - 28) without TV. And today every one of them says thanks, Mom.

They believe that because they didn't have TV, they learned to do things to entertain themselves. So they read and wrote, played games, built things, learned skills, developed hobbies -- all that stuff they wouldn't have had time for if their lives revolved around a TV.

aussie

Mess with my computer, and they'd be in big trouble. LOL

Hmm. What did I do before the internet?

Oh, yeah, I was raising all those kids. :-)

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Good morning, dead threaders! (evening, aussiemagpie)...

Back in a minute, must put coffee on...

[Marriot Hotel / The U.N. / Amnesty International / Western politicians] Pander to Radical Islam

Delete as applicable.

sure boycott marriot

also

dont go to the crowne plaza in Madrid either

They have al jezeera on the in house cable system. They say this is becuase of the large number of Arab guests they have.

Well I was there recently and there was not a large number of arabs, there were a large number of japanese, there is also a mitsukoshi in madrid the flagship of japanese department stores, but there is NO japanese language station on the TV

In my comment to the hotel on this they responded by saying they had a large number of arab guests and they do not discriminate against anyone, " we are proud to welcome and to serve any guest without excluding anyone due to their race, gender, disability, sexual orientation, religion, and age."

My response to the hotel was that it is no wonder why the islamofascists are taking over Europe, the Europeans are letting them...

Vote Bush out in '08
Vote Democrat

LLL bumpersticker

(Don't ask me why, I just wanted to say that)

*Joins ctp in the Holy Quest for coffee*

good morning chris,
i need cocca,
thanks for reminding me.

#103 ibmkeyboard
Hi and if he's around on LGF during the day can you please let him know I'm thinking of him

(the agent orange club- that is just so sad - )

Good morning aussiemagpie

Where is your joke of the day?
I kinda look forward to those.

#105 nonic

Hi - goodonya ! Raising 5 kids! Yes also we had a strict no TV rule ( except for me - I was exempt!) I'm a wonderful couch potato!

I think people should be able to determine their own cable packages -- only the channels one wants, that way we can avoid the BS (like CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etc.).

#106 sms111

Yep, and I was wondering whether Marriott and CAIR have an agreement that CAIR will use Marriott for their propaganda fests but only if Marriott refuses to rent space to anti-terrorism groups.

If that were the case, anti-trust law could come into play.

#107 christheprofessor

Hi from the Aussie on a warm Sydney night

My workplace burnt down last week so I'll be needing that job as your secretary now! I've been practising all weekend on how to answer the phone

Good morning - No I'm so sorry, Mr Christheprofesser is not available right now,he's in a meeting. I'll get him to call you when he's back in the office

(Meanwhile you are out riding your bike with your dog getting a burger)

thank you aussie,
i will tell him.

agent orange.
any vietnam vet will tell you,
we all gonna die someday.

but we will go down fighting for our country,
and trying to get our grandkids to fight these terrorists.

i love being part of the internet conspiracy.
lol

I'm sorry if someone has already posted this story.
Persons of Danish nationality need to be aware of this warning from their government:

The Danish Foreign ministry has warned Danish citizens not to travel to Pakistan. The Pakistani religious party Jamaat-e-Islami and its youth branch have offered a bounty for anyone who murders the Danish illustators who drew cartoons of Muhammad for the Danish daily newspaper Jyllands-Posten. Last September the newspaper asked twelve cartoonists to draw the pictures to test whether there was freedom of expression in Denmark after a Danish author had complained that no-one was willing to illustrate his Muhammad book. Muslims regard it as blasphemy to depict the Prophet.

Bounty Offered for Murdering Cartoonists

What they did would be more fitting if Accor had done it. Accor IS French-owned, after all.

I just sent a note to Mariott, telling them I thought they should be ashamed of themselves.

G-d bless the IAF:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

yeah, aussie
where is that joke of the day?

that one about getting the prize off the bottom shelf was a classic.
lol

#117 aussiemagpie

Yes, I remember that about your workplace. Aren't you now crammed into two other offices owned by the same physicians?

#113 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Hi - thanks for reading my jokes! Even if they are awful! I'll finish up here tonight with another crook joke very soon

I'm doing an inventory of what we lost in the fire (my workplace went up in flames on Thursday morning) and going between that and LGF

#110 Village

Vote Bush out in '08 - Vote Democrat

That's really great. Then when Bush doesn't get re-elected in '08, the LLL's will think they won.

(rolls eyes)

#121 whiterasta
You did notice they had to blame Israel for something in the article.

The entry of Palestinian laborers into Israel has been severely restricted over the past five years in response to violence, dealing a crushing blow to the Palestinian economy.

aussiemagpie

my workplace went up in flames on Thursday morning)

ouch

I hope you and yours are all safe.

#118 ibmkeyboard

Thank you so much - isn't it funny how you get to know people here without meeting in real life - reading about realwest's fight with cancer has really moved me -

I'm doing an inventory of what we lost in the fire (my workplace went up in flames on Thursday morning) and going between that and LGF

sorry to hear about work fire.
one of my grandkids put a tv remote control in the natural gas heater.
insurance company paid 6000 dollars to remodel the house.
we just moved back in,
stayed at the Marriott.
lol

#126 Low and slow:

Oh, yes of course those damn Isrealis just ruined the booming economy of the peace loving balestinians. Ruined it, I tell you!

Everything that happens in the world is the fault of the Jews or George Bush.

Okay, pop-ups usually just make me mad. But I logged on to LGF this morning and "The Chocolate Lizard" popped up.

Seriously, how do they know these things?

Good morning y'all!

#128 aussiemagpie

isn't it funny how you get to know people here without meeting in real life

It's like having 100 real-time pen pals...

And to think that somewhere millions of soldiers who died in the Wars to End All Wars are watching this and saying...I gave my life for THIS? It is a sad commentary that our country is fast becoming one of those that our elementary school teachers used to lecture us about.

Good morning Lizardoids

Best night's sleep in ages.

Today's wake up tune is by Creedence Clearwater Revival(Factoid:CCR never had a #1 song)

Oh, it came out of the sky, landed just a little south of moline.
Jody fell out of his tractor, couldn’t b’lieve what he seen.
Laid on the ground and shook, fearin’ for his life.
Then he ran all the way to town screamin’ it came out of the sky.

Well, a crowd gathered ’round and a scientist said it was marsh gas.
Spiro came and made a speech about raising the mars tax.
The vatican said, woe, the lord has come.
Hollywood rushed out an epic film.
And ronnie the popular said it was a communist plot.

Oh, the newspapers came and made jody a national hero.
Walter and eric said they’d put him on a network t.v. show.
The white house said, put the thing in the blue room.
The vatican said, no, it belongs to rome.
And jody said, it’s mine and you can have it for seventeen million.

Oh, it came out of the sky, landed just a little south of moline.
Jody fell out of his tractor, couldn’t b’lieve what he seen.
Laid on the ground a shakin’, fearin’ for his life.
Then he ran all the way to town screamin’ it came out of the sky.
Oh!

:-)

#123 christheprofessor

Crammed is the operative word - heavens we have all started a diet so we can fit in the same corridor!

Seriously though we are all grateful that we have jobs - especially the young receptionists with mortgages

My job is secure being the senior RN (not old of course!)

But I'd love to be a secretary (wink wink nudge nudge)

#135 aussiemagpie

Actually, I'd love to have one (wink wink, nudge nudge) -- the one I have is actually shared between four people...

#127 ibmkeyboard

Yes it happened at 2am Thursday moring when some idiot decided to ramraid the video shop in the shopping complex

Unfortunately all patient files were lost - except for stuff on the backup tapes but that didn't include specialist letters, compo stuff, etc It's going to be a long process to get back to normal

And my joke is coming! When I get sign off! It will be really crook I promise

109) amrilusaguy

Thats nothing compared to what I got on my SkyDigibox in my own home, We've got FOX News but we also got an IslamoFascists paradise with channels such as:

al jezeera
abu dhabi tv
islam channel
mta-muslim tv
VECTONE urdu
channel "s"

as part of our package, they have all since been blocked.

Thats not all though

My father's got a Sky dish in his room and for one single Israeli channel called 33 has to put with al manar with many more IslamoFascist channels then my SkyDigibox and this is the UK.

We do the thinking
So you don't have to
Vote Democrat

Another LLL bumper sticker

GOOD MORNING LIZARDS AND LIZARDESSES!

Still looks like a winter wonderland on our Ponderosa. Have our Xmas tree and will decorate it today.

Good morning mousey!

I wish we had snow :(

#129 ibmkeyboard

Your house was damaged? Oh my goodness - I hope that the insurance covered the damage!

Actually a long time ago my son was lighting matches in his bedroom "just to see what happens Mum" Luckily it was only the waste paper basket burnt and a singe on the carpet (and a red mark on his little behind)

But it made me realise how quickly fire could spread

Is georgetown a Jesuit school? What's up with violently religious muslims attending a christian school?

#141 m

We had a pretty bad storm on Friday night. Our neck of the woods seems to have fared the worse.

OT:

Just read this al-reuters article from the sidebar: Many Iraqi voters want Americans to leave

a secret national survey in August for Britain's Ministry of Defense found 82 percent of respondents were "strongly opposed" to foreign troops on Iraqi soil, according to a report in the Sunday Telegraph newspaper.

I haven't been to Iraq, but it would seem that if that many were in-fact, "strongly opposed" wouldn't a certain percentage probably be taking to the streets in demonstration? Besides the "insurgents," we all know that the so-called Arab street can definitely hold a demonstration. Yet, there have been few. None with thousands/hundreds of thousand of participants. That would seem to be a more accurate represenatation of a "strongly opposed" populace.

Anyone who has been in Iraq and would care to talk about it; Did you think that 82% of the Iraqis you met were "strongly opposed" to you being there?

If 82% want us to leave then screw it. However, I'm not seeing it.

#132 christheprofessor

Yes - like penpals in real time! I hadn't thought of it like that

Hi penpal!

#143 SlothB77

You are correct and it is strange.

[Link: www.georgetown.edu...]

#142 aussiemagpie

Luckily it was only the waste paper basket burnt and a singe on the carpet (and a red mark on his little behind)

Good thing you live Down Under. If you had left a red mark on his behind Up Over (here), Social Services would have left a metaphoric red mark on your behind.

#134 totally sirius

true fact: A couple of months ago I was fortunate to get bumped to First Class on an America West flight from Phoenix to Baltimore, and my seat-mate was none other than Doug "Cosmo" Clifford, the only drummer CCR ever had.
He's just a great guy - and a non-idiotarian, FYI.

Really got a kick out of that - he played with all the greats - Santana, Greatful Dead, The Airplane, Joplin, and on and on...

Washington Post is at it again:
OOP's Wrong Rendition
Whether it is true or not is one thing. The details they give have no use to the general public and are border line seditious in nature. They mentioned an un-named person and then go on to physically describe them and mention what their specialty is/was. WTF? Why not put in a headshot for us all to see?!?!?

If there were a Marriott in Port Sulphur, I'd boycott it (yes, Atlas, I did first read this on your site yesterday afternoon).

/The Katrina relief effort- where every day is Monday, and for those fortunate souls billeted in NOLA, every night is Friday.

/drive-by from the FEMA ICP, Port Sulphur LA. Week 3 of Charlie the stiff chillin' in his body bag across the street.

#136 christheprofessor

Well i never! I'm just blushing but I have a joke for you:

He was telling his mate that he and his wife had discovered a new way of making love: back to back

"That would be nigh impossible wouldn't it?"

"Oh we have another couple in to help us" he explained

#145 tupac23x

aaahhh... the super secret national survey... yeah... that's the ticket...

The thing about that is, they only gave out the super secret handshake to people they knew would poll against the US and your vote wasn't tallied unless you knew the super secret handshake.

Mental note:wake up earlier,no more CCR

#134 Totallysirius

Thank you - love Creedance Clearwater Revival!

But soon I'll need a lullaby again - in about half an hour please! Pretty please? :-)

#152 aussiemagpie

Heh. My kind of female, I tells 'ya!

#151 American Soldier

Why doesn't someone bury that poor guy?

tupac23x

If 82% want us to leave then screw it. However, I'm not seeing it.

What you need, is a copy of the exact wording of the question.

I don't think that it's too far of a reach for 82% to say yes to the question

"Do you agree that once the terrorists are defeated, and the Iraqi government is strong and stable, that American troops should leave our country?"

I don't know if that was the question, but the devil is in the details.

Most of the reports I have read show a strong desire to see the terrorists defeated, the rise of a strong government, and the departure of the US troops.

And many people seem to forget, the US is there at the behest of the existing Iraqi government.

I watched President Talabani stand with our President and say basically those exact words.

Of course, only FOX carried it, and it never made it into the MSM headlines.

The thing about that is, they only gave out the super secret handshake to people they knew would poll against the US and your vote wasn't tallied unless you knew the super secret handshake.

Obviously, I'm not falling for this garbage. I believe it's just another example of the enemy propaganda that the fifth column media continues to spew, passing it off as "news."

The point of course being that many people are taken in by this. I'm sure there are many, many polls conducted. Some of which may be in-fact secret. However, what those polls say is the question. When the Iraqis start openly demanding that we leave, (which they have every right to do in their free country) it will be past time to leave.

Until then, the mission will and should continue.

#155 aussiemagpie

How about haiku for you?

Go to sleep our 'roo
Tomorrow will be a zoo
Lot's of work to do

#140 rightymouse

Hi there in your lovely winter wonderland - I'm sitting here all sweaty and sunburnt after a hard day gardening, washing etc - being a domestic goddess in fact (no cricket to watch)

And many people seem to forget, the US is there at the behest of the existing Iraqi government.

Details, details...

Always getting in the way. :)

aussiemagpie - LOL! You sometimes get me in "trouble" though. It is night by you, but late afternoon in Israel (my school age kids are hanging around). I laughed hysterically at your joke and now my kids want to know what is so funny...

Zarqawi is losing support bigtime, according to this Washington Post article:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Anyone keeping track of how long it has been since we last heard from Zarqawi? It's been a while. Almost a month now. Where could he be, one wonders? Taking a dirt nap after exploding?

#159 tupac23x

MSM. Lord Haw Haw with a bigger mouth.

#159 tupac23x

Until then, the mission will and should continue.

Oh, I agree.

My point was, don't believe polls. Just ask JFnK.

#161 aussiemagpie

Aaargh. Sun would be good right about now. :)

Marriott seeks Petro-Dollars, caters to Islamicists

the headline we'll never see

#166 m

I don't pay attention to polls either. Remember the exit polls from the last election that had Kerry winning? Too funny.

#92 Aussiemagpie

cable rates in upstate NY

list of major cable providers to compare
PDF file

Hope this helps . . .your rates are high to me too! Yikes!

#155 aussie

Lullabys are the toughest requests.

#162 tupac23x

Details, details...

Always getting in the way. :)

The MSM never let pesky little things like facts get in the way of a good story designed to undermine Bush and/or the US. The bastards will sell out the Iraqi's future, just like the did the Vietnamese, as long as it undermines the US.

#160 rightymouse

Hi - what a wonderful haiku - I wish that I could compose something clever - mind is blank!

But we have Christmas lists in our family - and on my list is a book that is the top 100 books condensed in haikus - I just saw this book in the bookshop cattledog and thought it would help me to write a haiku for LGF!

#167 rightymouse

Sun is poking through the primarily overcasst, but it feels like it's in the 60s outside...

#173 aussiemagpie

Sounds great!

Haiku is rather easy. Five syllables, followed by seven syllables and ending in five syllables.

Sometimes on the LNDT, LGF'ers break out into haiku.

My point was, don't believe polls. Just ask JFnK.

I understand and no doubt. It's just more than worrisome that people who fail to keep themselves informed on the war in Iraq are so easily misled by this propaganda. They (MSM) just keep driving home the "we're losing/we've lost" theme and as I've seen stated here countless times: A lie told often enough becomes the truth. I tried to read the article objectively, as I did the Washington Post article. It's just not possible if you're cheering for "our side." You can just smell the defeat in almost every piece of crap that the majority of the media release.

Sorry about the rant(s). I don't really post much, but I at least know that I'm amongst right-thinking folk here.

#174 christheprofessor

'60's? Sigh.

BTW, made a mondo beef curry with bamboo shoots last night. YUM. Also stir-fried chicken with ginger. Have enough left over for lunch today. :)

#163 westbankmoma

Hi there from Sydney! Oh dear I don't want to get you into strife with your kids! That Mr Christheprofessor brings out the worst in me!

But I'm so pleased that you read my really crook jokes!

Splodeydope haiku:

Bomb belt strapped on tight
I think I'm gonna die now
Allahu Akhbar

Haiku is easy
Does not even have to rhyme
Great way to convey thoughts

#179 flipflop

I'm trying hard not to laugh. Not working. LOL!

aussiemagpie

I found a good one for ya.

Factoid:This band supposedly got its name from the Australian aboriginals.

Three Dog Night.

Well I never been to Spain
But I kinda like the music
Say the ladies are insane there
And they sure know how to use it
The don't abuse it
Never gonna lose it
I can't refuse it

Well I never been to England
But I kinda like the Beatles
Well, I headed for Las Vegas
Only made it out to Needles
Can you feel it
It must be real it
Feels so good
Oh, feels so good

Well I never been to heaven
But I been to Oklahoma
Well they tell me I was born there
But I really don't remember
In Oklahoma, not Arizona
What does it matter
What does it matter

Well I never been to Spain
But I kinda like the music
Say the ladies are insane there
And they sure know how to use it
The don't abuse it
Never gonna lose it
I can't refuse it

Well I never been to heaven
But I been to Oklahoma
Well they tell me I was born there
But I really don't remember
In Oklahoma, not Arizona
What does it matter
What does it matter
___
Sleep well little 'roo.

:-)

#180 CtP

One too many syllables in the last line...isn't it supposed to be 5-7-5?

#167 rightymouse

64 degrees, high of 72 (looks like rain moving this way, though...)

#182 totallysirius

Heheh...3 Dog Night was the very first live concert I saw...in 1973!

#180 christheprofessor

Syllable burp on the last line, love.

#184 christheprofessor

Sounds lovely, but I prefer the snow on the ground and a fire in the fireplace while trimming the tree. :)

It's a mood thing, I guess.

Oh are we telling jokes now?

Bird Flu Symptons:

High fever
Sore throat
Rash
Uncontrollable urge to crap on someone's windscreen.

What surprises me is the candor of the statement. I think the policy must have been created by corporate loss-prevention weenies under advice from laywers, but sombody forgot to sanatize the statement, which actually came out and plainly said why.

#172

Is "rimshot" the right word?

Let's just say it's looking more and more that way. If the Dems do well next year, it may be all but a certainty.

I suppose they'll just cut our troops off in the field again.

Obviouslsy the most amazing facet of this entire politcal "quagmire" is that these fools don't even stop to ponder what the results of a failed Iraq will be. They have not studied the words of the bastard Osama who called us a "paper tiger."

We prove them right again and we will see horrors across the free world and in our backyard that still somehow seem unimaginable. "A thousand 9/11's."

#183 flipflop

Yes, you are correct... I think I accidentally counted words instead of syllables... :(

Eurodhimmi Haiku:

Muslims are coming
Oh crap, they're already here
Time to move Paris

#185 flipflop

I saw them in '73 also,it was a twin bill with Steppenwolf.

#188 whiterasta

Booo! LOL!

This Mormon is embarrassed.

Iraqis aiding troops in Sunni Arab city

SAMARRA, Iraq — After keeping their distance for months, Iraqis in this Sunni Arab city suddenly began cooperating with U.S. troops, leading them to insurgents and hidden weapons caches. The reason: anger over the assassination by insurgents of a local tribal chief.

#186 rightymouse

Yes, you are correct -- see my #191...

Obviouslsy = Obviously

Politcal = Political

#193 totallysirius

I saw 3 Dog Night at Dillon Stadium in Hartford, CT. IIRC, a band named T-Rex opened for them. I'd have much preferred Steppenwolf.

#195 mungagungadin

The Marriot is owned by Mormons, right? Anything you can do to bring this up at church?

tupac23x

It's just more than worrisome that people who fail to keep themselves informed on the war in Iraq are so easily misled by this propaganda.

The MSM banks on the fact that most people are either to lazy, or too stupid to do their own thinking.

This is one reason why the MSM fears the right side of the Blogisphere.

Have you ever engaged in discussion with a LLL who is spewing their talking points?
Once you get past the initial screed, there is no intelligent thought process to support how they got to their view point.

Usually it comes down to them saying
"Well, it is ...cause it just is"

#188 whiterasta,

I thought I had the everyday normal flu, (waking up from a NyQuil induced coma), minus the crapping on someones windshield those are my symptoms, along with high fever, blurred vision and a maddening ringing in my ears.

Btw mornin' little 'roo, TS, Chris, Sarah, Mousey and everyone else. Just Cranberry juice for brekkie this morning sorry.

awesome luluby:

Sunlight dances through the leaves
Soft winds stir the sighing trees
Lying in the warm grass
Feel the sun upon your face
Eleven songs and endless nights
Sweet wine and soft relaxing lights
Time will never touch you
Here in this enchanted place

[Chorus:]
You feel there's something calling you
You're wanting to return
To where the misty mountains rise and friendly fires burn
A place you can escape the world
Where the dark lord cannot go
Peace of mind and sanctuary by loud water's flow

I've traveled now for many miles
It feels so good to see the smiles of
Friends who never left your mind
When you were far away
From the golden light of coming dawn
Till the twilight where the sun is gone
We treasure every season
And every passing day

We feel the coming of a new day
Darkness gives way to light a new way
Stop here for a while until the world
The world calls you away
Yet you know I've had the feeling
Standing with my senses reeling
This is the place to grow old 'til
I reach my final day.

[Chorus]

Rush, Rivendell

(someone mentioned Rush on here the other day and I could not stand it until I heard this song again :)

Raziel

Well thats in England and it is not suprising

the foreign office has been pro arab for what is it now, centuries...

Hippie Haiku:

I've smoked all my pot
I can't afford any more
It's all Bush's fault

#199 flipflop

Steppenwolf is better but T-Rex had their strong points also,they put out something like 12 albums.

#192 flipflop

Time to move Paris

I love it.

Haiku for the Marriott Hotel:

Marriott sells out
They fear Islamic backlash
But love their money

#202 'Nam Grunt

You know there are things called doctors 'Nam.

#202 'Nam

Good moring. Sorry to hear you are feeling poorly...

Democrat Haiku:

Must win the White House
Terrorists? What terrorists?
Let's cancel the war

'Nam Grunt

Sorry to hear you're under the weather.

You weren't eating squirrel brains, were you?

#170 saywhat

Hi and thanks - I've saved this and I'll have close look when I get home from work later today - I just need the NY zip code please to look at the NY cable prices

Thanks again!

#196 Sarah D.

Amen, and more please.

#202 'Nam Grunt

Och. Poor 'Nammy. :(

#209 Sarah D,

My son took me to the VA clinic in Beaumont yesterday and they gave me shot of pennie, didn't help much though. ugh!

Spieberg swz

Steven Spielberg, IN ONLY INTERVIEW WORLDWIDE BEFORE 'MUNICH' RELEASE Discusses CONTROVERSIAL New Film to Open Dec. 23.

‘There has never been an adequate tribute paid to the Israeli athletes who were murdered in ’72,’ Spielberg says.

“I don’t think any movie or any book or any work of art can solve the stalemate in the Middle East today,” director Steven Spielberg tells TIME in an exclusive cover-story interview. “But it’s certainly worth a try,” Spielberg says.

Since filming began in June, the movie (reported to cost around $70 million) “has been surrounded by rumors, criticism, and suggestions that Spielberg was too pro-Israel to make a fair movie,” according to TIME.

"I'm always in favor of Israel responding strongly when it's threatened. At the same time, a response to a response doesn't really solve anything. It just creates a perpetual-motion machine," Spielberg says. "There's been a quagmire of blood for blood for many decades in that region. Where does it end? How can it end?"

It ends when we cruch Islamofascism into the dirt.
Pretty slear to me.

One thing on the boycott - I'm no expert, but...

Mariott might catch on if all of these hits keep coming from the same website referrer, right?

Just a thought - there a few firefox plugins that can alter referrer origin, otherwise goin about it from a fresh browser might cut that out, just cutting and pasting the link text from another file.

Of course, I could be totally off base tech-wise...

What did Ahnold tell the producer of the historical musical composer movie?

"I'll be Bach"

/me ducks

Did you all hear about the Sunni Playstation? Only works if you are facing east...

At the same time, a response to a response doesn't really solve anything

Not hard to build the case that our first response should then involve total devastation of the enemy.

But, in a nuanced sort of way.

Thanks to JfnK, I now know a new word.

Have you ever engaged in discussion with a LLL who is spewing their talking points?

Yes and the last one was full fledged. I haven't spoken to him since shortly before the election last year and have no intention of talking to him again. It will not be peaceful I'm afraid.

To your question, after he got past the usual crap that I refuted with cold hard facts, I actually beat him to the punch when he said: "Do you want to know when the real problem started?"
I swear that I said "Don't even say 1948."

You guessed it. The Jews. At that point I nearly blew a gasket and left shortly thereafter. A person coming from that perspective identifies themselves immediately and further conversation is not possible.

#216 'Nam Grunt

Good, but if it's a virus that won't help.

Next time you're at a grocery store get some Zicam. The kiddo and I both use it, and I swear by it.

I have Marriott bookmarked because I stay at Marriotts frequently. So their referrer information from me won't say LGF. Here's the text of what I wrote them this morning:

I was very disturbed this morning to hear that the Marriott corporation declined to host a counter-terrorism conference at the Georgetown Marriott in Washington, DC.

At the same time, Marriott is hosting a conference of the Council on American-Islamic Relations at the Arlington Gateway Marriott. CAIR is an organization with demonstrable ties to Islamic terror organizations.

So, it would appear that Marriott's corporate policy is to accommodate groups with possible ties to terrorism, while giving the cold shoulder to groups actively trying to address the terrorism problem. And this policy coming from a corporation whose own hotels have been the target of terrorism in the past.

As you can see from my Marriott Rewards number, I'm a long time Marriott customer, and typically spend 100 or more nights per year at Marriott properties world wide.

I believe terrorism to be the biggest threat to world stability. Given Marriott's apparent corporate policy, I'm not sure I can continue my relationship with Marriott, unless Marriott clarifies its policy and demonstrates that they are firmly opposed to global terrorism and not an enabler of it.

I'm forwarding this message to my many colleagues who are also frequent Marriott guests. I'm sure they'll take an interest.

I'll post what I get for a reply

Troops, Muslim rebels team up to rescue kidnapped teachers

Philippine marines and hundreds of Moro Islamic Liberation Front rebels fanned out in search of schoolteachers Felipe Lacunies and his wife, Helen, after their abduction Friday. A group of guerrillas found them abandoned in a hut in Piagapo town in Lanao del Sur province, Marine Brigadier General Ben Dolorfino said.

We live in a strange world.

#182 Totallysirius

Why thank you! I'll just finish up here now ...getting sleepy! zzz

Boycott the Marriott.

Indeed.

tupac23x

The Jews

Aaahhh, those evil Jooo's.

Without them, we would truely have whirled peas.

Good morning, Lizards!

I'm listening to Martina McBride sing "Silent Night," it's lightly snowing outside, and we're getting our tree today.

I am furious with Marriott, but I'm amused that they admitted that they fear violence from Muslim students. How insulting.

I took my mom to see the Rockettes in Pittsburgh last night, "A Christmas Spectacular." Yes, CHRISTMAS. The finale is a living nativity, with a reading from the New Testament. It was amazing and so refreshing.

Muslim graves found at planned site of J'lem Museum of Tolerance

The construction of Jerusalem's Museum of Tolerance has hit a snag after Muslim graves were found on a section of the museum's planned central Jerusalem site, with work ordered stopped in that area, Israel's Antiquities Authority said over the weekend.

Now why would those mean nasty Jews care about muslim graves?

#222 tupac23x

And yet they call themselves progressives.

flipflop

Good letter.
Let us know what you get back please.

#224 flipflop

Excellent. Precise and to the point.

#188 whiterasta

Funny! LOL!

You can't make this stuff up.

ABUJA (Reuters) - The Nigerian state of Bayelsa proclaims to the world on car number plates that it is "The Pride of the Nation" or, on some models, "The Glory of All Lands".

But the exploits of its governor, who was arrested in Britain on his return from a tummy-tuck operation in Germany and charged with money-laundering, only to jump bail disguised as a woman, have given the state's slogans a hollow ring.

LOL!

#223 Sarah D.,

Will do, thanks. I'll ask my kid to pick some up when comes over today.

#235 Sarah D.

HAHAHAHAHA!

Nigeria. That prosperously corrupt pit-hole of the earth. Too funny.

Fatwa in 5, 4, 3, 2...

In a sharp contrast to Muslim clerics' vehement opposition to family planning measures, noted Shia scholar Maulana Kalbe Sadiq today said there was nothing wrong in using condoms and pills to limit the size of the family.

This whole Marriott thing really has me pissed. I travel a LOT, and last year spent 120 nights at various Marriotts, and have 95 nights so far this year. I've kept up this pace for over six years.

As a result, Marriott treats me exceptionally well, and I get all kinds of perks by continuing with them. But I will kick them to the curb if they don't address this adequately.

I'm pretty sure if I take this up with a competing hotel chain, they'll be more than happy to take my business and give me equivalent status.

#202 'Nam Grunt

Hi and I'm sorry you're feeling crook - you haven't got any chooks have you?

And don't worry Cranberry juice and vodka will do just fine for brekkie!

Get well soon!

Whoa,I got the winner right but missed the spread

LSU 14
Georgia 34

#235 Sarah D.
Talk about inappropriate slogans:

A multi-million pound campaign to boost Germans' low self-confidence has backfired after it emerged that its slogan was first coined by the Nazis.

Oops

Little 'roo,

No I don't have any live ones but my son will be bringing a large pot of it today.

#203 m

Hi - yes now I'm almost ready for bed! Thanks to you andtotallysirius giving us these great songs

Thanks

It seems I have been remiss on one topic,
so...

GO NAVY!

So, I'm watching some stupid movie "Wild Bill" on the History Channel. Earlier, the bleaped out the word "ass," as in get the lead out of your ass, meaning move quickly.

A few minutes ago, Calamity Jane took her pants off and straddled Wild Bill in a saloon, after which he had her on a card table, her legs in the air and him pumping away.

Yet, they bleaped out the word "ass" in a non-sexual context...

WTF?

Newsweek drivel...

Yet despite the spread of ultraconservative versions of Islam over the past few decades, these societies are not the norm in the Muslim world. In Egypt, female cops patrol the streets. In Jordan, women account for the majority of students in medical school. And in Syria, courtrooms are filled with female lawyers

I think this gal needs to have a talk with Souad.

More anti-Jewish patter in a mainstream newspaper frmo the egregious Haroon Siddiqui, Islamist apologist -- trying to use Muslim numbers to support anti-semitic resolutins and win the numbers get big enough -- shariah law in Canada.

[Link: www.thestar.com...]

#247 christheprofessor

That was on the History Channel? AAACKCK!

#243 bonz

Oh my!

When the numbers get big enough, Shariah law for Canada. And Antonia Zerbisias will be the first to get her burqa -- one woman who definitely needs one, whether she's Muslim or not.

#243 bonz

A multi-million pound campaign to boost Germans' low self-confidence has backfired after it emerged that its slogan was first coined by the Nazis.

Break out the Treaty of Versailles train car!

W00t! What they need to do is keep the slogan, but don't persecute Jews or attack the Czechs.

People, I see a lot of misunderstanding about why we are in Iraq.

Yes, Saddam was a problem and needed to be taken out.

Making Iraq into a democratic county is important not only for Iraq, but for the rest of the Mideast.

However, you are missing the effect that having a military presence in the middle of the Mideast is having and will have. We are building permanent US bases (nine IIRC) in Iraq, not just to defend Iraq but to threaten the rest of the Middle East.

Do you think we will leave Iraq before Iran is dealt with? How about Syria? And then there is Saudi Arabia.

Our presence in Iraq is not just about Iraq. We have bigger fish to fry.

The hotel and motel industry is full of foreigners and recent immigrants. Marriott is probably more afraid of their staff than for their staff.

yeesh, A warning about the pic of the headless chick pic on that link would have been nice. That's a tough way to start the moring.

#250 rightymouse

Yup. And I sanitized it some, so as to be less offensive...

#254 [Engineer]

"Our presence in Iraq is not just about Iraq. We have bigger fish to fry."

Shhh. Don't tell an LLL's that. Their heads will explode.

rightymouse SlothB77

You are correct and it [Georgetown ia a Jesuit school] is strange.

All the more confounding that Marriott accepts violence and intimidation as a 'normal' reaction from a jesuit collegiate (er, those of muslim persuasion).

In the old days I would expect that any student perpetrating an uncivil and violent act (beyond acceptable verbal protest) off campus would be penalized heavily - perhaps dismissed. I also wonder how many Georgetown muslim students have student visas? Any foreign student that would act out in an uncivil and/or violent manner should be deported immediately.

There was another symposium by the People's Truth Forum scheduled for this past Sept. at the Aquaturf Club of Plantsville CT. I'm uncertain if it was also re-scheduled or cancelled. I would offer a link but it doesn't work - internet archive doesn't have it either. Anyone know if this has anything to do with the earlier event ?

Zombie, your comment about turning this decision into a racist act is absolute genius.

My Marriott rewards account will be replaced with the Hilton Honors program. I will also encourage all my family and business associates to do the same by forwarding as many online links of this story to them.

boycott...yes...and loud

#224 flipflop

That should wake up somebody in the Mariott chain of command.

#257 christheprofessor

Good grief! That's one of the channels that's not kiddy blocked at home.

#254 [Engineer],

I mentioned this a long, long time ago on here, we are never leaving Afghanistan or Iraq, in fact we have a huge Airbase in Afghanistan as we type, and as soon as we clear out some of this trash in Iraq look for a large base there. (Permanent Type)!

Don't just boycott.

Send them a copy of your recept from a non-Marriott Hotel. (With sensitive information blacked-out).

This will let them know that they are really loosing money.

Is anyone watching Face the Nation this morning? JOhn Kerry is getting beat about the head and shoulders...

Instance One:
Kerry: I think we should pull 20,000 troops out of Iraq this spring.
Commentator: Please listen to this snippet of Secretary Rumsfeld
"we are going to go from 159K troops to 138K troops in spring 2006..."
Now arent' you proposing the exact same thing the secretary proposed weeks ago?
Kerry: I actually said that a week earlier at GW University and that was the first time the administration acknowledged my plans

Yea right...
Way to go John...

BTW: Lieberman for Secretary of Defense? Believe it, Bush is cogitating on it.

#262 rightymouse

I wouldn't have thought it would need to be blocked... I'm surprised at it, frankly...

#259 saywhat?

"All the more confounding that Marriott accepts violence and intimidation as a 'normal' reaction from a jesuit collegiate (er, those of muslim persuasion).

Exactly.

#244'Nam Grunt

Well have lots of fluid and lots of sleepand of course the chicken soup.

Take care my Texas friend - and it looks as if we will have about three weeks in the US next July!

#265 jason97m

Why? Where's Rumsfeld going?

#266 christheprofessor

I never thought there was need to block the History Channel either. Well, fortunately, when the kidlet watches, it's for a specific reason and I'm there watching too.

#268 aussiemagpie,

Thanks, btw 'roo the BBQ will be sometime in the latter part of July so you are good to go.