no way

Perhaps they just want to use them for the Olive harvest.

The IAF is going to be busy for ahile it seems.

Howdy sports fans. ;-)

Double Post alert- weather and sports updates.

Double-Post OT to follow

Worked up a sweat. The 6 foot sapling that was in the front yard when we moved in again is now almost 10 meters tall (in just 5 years of Miracle-Gro tree fertilizer spikes and regular watering), and I'm not sure what kind of oak it will be, but last year the top half of the tree had the pretty fall foliage followed by the leaf drop, while the bottom half ways stayed green, this year, it is again a half and half, but the green leaves and the colorful and dropping leaves are randomly interspersed.

Just the ratty t-shirt and shorts, blissfully low humidity but hot work none the less, raking leaves.

BTW, notice Iowahawk doesn't show up much anymore? I suspect it is because he fears people asking questions about Iowa football. Florida is spanking 'em right now in the Outback Bowl from beautiful Tampa, Florida.

The Particularly Severe Tornadoes won't threaten Tampa until well after the game finishes, and since I doubt Iowa will force overtime, I am remarkably confident of that.

I haven't seen any tornadoes while watching the Rose Bowl Parade today, but I did notice The Show band of the Southwest, The University of Texas Marching Band, was one of the few parade participants bright enough to pack rain-gear.

Santa Ana radar loop.

OK, I was short and fat and got cut from Freshman Football, and never tried out again (I wish I had), but when Texas Tech lines up with the O-line 4 feet apart, why doesn't every team line up at least 1 linebacker exactly halfway between them, and shoot the gap and hit the quarterback 2 steps into a 3 step drop, or maybe grab the handoff?

I noticed only Texas, Oklahoma State and to a lesser degree Oklahoma ever figure dout how to slow down the Tech offense (Alabama seems to have it figured out), but I'd think 4 foot gaps between lineman would be just asking for trouble.

Well, if The Palis get AA missiles to thwart airstrikes on Gaza, perhaps Israel will have to limit the number of car swarm generations.

Or, perhaps, they'll just use heavy artillery. A little less surgical, but just as effective.

The Palestinian Interior Ministry denied the Israeli report.

Of course they do.

Where is the money for these anti-aircraft missles coming from? They can't be cheap.
The Egyptians donating it?
The Palestinians are paying for it? With donated money?

Follow the money...

And deal with the source

Who'da thought?

I'm guessing these are manpads (man portable air defense systems) which are of limited use against high flying or fast moving fighter aircraft such as F-15 or F-16. However, they would be of tremendous value against low and slow targets, such as helicopters used to hunt down mortar and rocket crews. Using these systems, a skilled guerilla force could create "no fly zone" havens for rocket and mortar attacks. However, the not so skilled Paleos will undoubtably attempt to use them against civilian aircraft, a contingency for which Israel is well prepared for.

#6 reaganite,

Hey Brother, how's that bad wheel working out for you?

#5 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

Or, perhaps, they'll just use heavy artillery. A little less surgical, but just as effective.

The Israelis have this neat little guided mortar round. Very surgical.

They are only gonna use them in wedding celebration, geez.

#9 LthrNck

Using these systems, a skilled guerilla force could create "no fly zone" havens for rocket and mortar attacks. However, the not so skilled Paleos will undoubtably attempt to use them against civilian aircraft, a contingency for which Israel is well prepared for.

And the MSM will condemn Israel for striking back.

I am shocked, shocked I tell you...

#10 'Nam Grunt

how's that bad wheel working out for you?

Healing, the weather isn't helping.

Let's give them their own steak!

#7 Powerflip

and THAT would lead right back to Washington.

OT Again-

Swampie- look what is headed for your house!

#11 reaganite

Too bad that you didn't have a few days to "improve" those anti-aircraft weapons. Like maybe connecting the "fire" switch to the warhead.

One step closer to an all out-war.

If Egypt can kick out 600 Sudanese, why can't the Israelis?

JG

#15 reaganite,

Take care of yourself in the future, I just finished shampooing my carpets,and I heard something pop in my hand just now...oh nevermind it was a beer whew!. ;-)

500,000 quatloos says the rockets came over during the siezure of the gaza/Egypt crossing that the Euroweenies ran scared from.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

We are suprised because ___ ?

Soccer Dad nails WAPO "big time" (as Cheney would say) and proves, again, that America's modern liberals have lost all sense.

If it's not too late, WAPO should be nominated for the Fiskie.

#19 [Engineer]

Too bad that you didn't have a few days to "improve" those anti-aircraft weapons. Like maybe connecting the "fire" switch to the warhead.

The Palis always find a way to have a work accident. I wish them many more.

Let them eat cake... or death! I prefer the latter nothing is too good for those savages.

We are lucky to have the new media. More and more people are seeing the light. The rest prefer the blinders.

First!

Wait ... no?

Howdy Nam Grunt- I may have to run up to the Mohammad-Mart and get a cold adult beverage or two. I was raking leaves and pruning trees and bushes, and I'm sweaty. All the windows open, fans on, as I'm trying to avoid the shame and humiliation of running the air conditioning the first week of January, but my will to resist is fading.

I have the sprinkler running, trying to keep the last few green blades of Saint Augustine alive.

But, but, but, the Israeli withdrawal was supposed to bring peace!

I'm sick of this garbage. Sick of the coddling, sick of the LLL MSM constant apologia/smokescreen for these murderous barbarians, and I'm sick of the United States paying for it all.

I am burning with rage that the bad guys are not only being allowed to win, the supposedly "good" guys are subsidizing them and keeping the victims from striking back in force.

#21 'Nam Grunt

oh nevermind it was a beer whew!. ;-)

I wish I could drink a beer!

#7 PowerFlip

Follow the money...

And deal with the source

That would be US and the EU.

And any comment is useless because we do pay them and the EU pays them, period.

#29 Ed,

Yeah it's really nice here too, lots of sun and very mild, it would be a great day to go offshore if I could find a ride. Guess I'll just watch the bowl games, HNY to you and your family bud. ;-)

New Tornado Watch for N.E. Florida and East Georgia.

#31 reaganite,

Well hell my brother, I wish you could too, my Daddy used to say wish in one hand and...you know the ending. LOL!

Ditto:

BTW, Mrs Mahmoud, who will have a 2 month old baby, God willing, in July, suggested she might be willing to travel to Galveston if the LGF meet-up moved there. I said I'd ask about it, but I didn't think you'd move it.

#35 'Nam Grunt

Well hell my brother, I wish you could too, my Daddy used to say wish in one hand and...you know the ending. LOL!

I sure do!

I made the mistake of staying off the drugs for New Year's. I won't be doing that again any time soon.

#36 Ed,

Actually that's an idea, it certainly would be easier for everyone, I'll run it by the planning commitee. ;-)

THIS IS INTERESTING

Bomber planned to hit reactor

Cleared for publication: Ramzi Salah, a 22-year-old Gaza Strip resident, planned to detonate himself with other suicide bombers at Israel's nuclear reactor in Dimona

OT-Weather up here in Winnipeg has been quite unbelievable. Normally we'd be in the midst of a huge lock down freeze up with extended weeks of -30C (about where the F and C scales cross folk, in other words, friggin' cold) but instead we've been running at about 0C (32F) every day rarely going more than ten degrees or so below frezing and we've had cloudy and foggy days and some freezing rain or wet flurries almost every single day. Very very weird. Normally it is far to cold to snow this time of year. I mean it is great while the kids on break (except for those who like to skate outdoors) but we need those extended periods of -30C to keep the spruce beetle out of Manitoba and we had enough flooding last summer. If we don't get some relief from all the wet, we're going to be flooding again this year. Very very weird weather up here.

And the Pali's acquired these from ? very good to develop a "return to sender" program for the arms merchants.

Long past time to let the evil know, "What goes around,... Comes around"

I know I am new here, but are all lizards allowed to go to the big meeting? Plus, I don't know the secret hand shake.

#37 reaganite,

Lessons learned huh?, If you would stop trying to be a teenager you wouldn't be in this shape. LOL!

Wow! Big surprise!

#42 cannadian club akbar,

Lot's of planning to do before the rsvp's go out, stay tuned for more info in the future. ;-)

#43 'Nam Grunt

Lessons learned huh?, If you would stop trying to be a teenager you wouldn't be in this shape. LOL!

I'll grow up when I get older.

"It also increases the risk that such weaponry will enter the West Bank where it will present a significant threat to Israeli aviation."

...

' The United States has backed Palestinian calls for Israel to allow convoys of Palestinians to travel from Gaza to the West Bank. Israel has not yet allowed the convoys to start, citing security concerns. '

. Let those convoys through. Let's make it a parade.

We'll lend the Primitives some full-size missiles and some spare transporters so they can have one of those May Day-style parades from Gaza to the West Bank to celebrate the arrival of democracy.

// Washington Post - Midwife to Democracy in Gaza

#46 reaganite,

No worries, I've been saying those same words to myself for years. ;-)

reaganite --

You're suffering from knee surgery ?

Baskswing twist bulging disk ?

Loose tooth from a "local watering hole" misunderstanding ?

It doesn't approach a couple of beers or good shot of Demoral, but alternating ice and a good soak in the hot whirlpool ---

-- fools em.

A Tens Unit would probably be paid for by your health plan if your physician wrote a prescription for it.

And might get you off the meds long enough to

have a Couple of these.

#49 Havoc,

I hope you and your family had great holidays, Brother. ;-)

Congrats Ed!

"morning Nam, Reaganite and others of the green persuasion!

#32 Poitiers-Lepanto

That would be US and the EU.

And any comment is useless because we do pay them and the EU pays them, period.

I think that maybe some Arab Countries are supporting the Palestinian cause as well...don't you think?

#45 'Nam Grunt
Thanks.
/praying

#51 Bob with one O,

Hey how you doin' Bob, nice to see ya'.

Back from the non-halal Mohammad-Mart. Despite being Pakistani Muslim owned, they stock alcohol, porno (in a rack right by the register, and not just Playboy and Penthouse either) and, I noticed today, pork rinds.

Maybe they are not part of the jihad.
Just cracked my first beer.

Ed, did you see the Allen (TX) High School marching band in the parade? They were supposed to march in the parade, but I didn't see them. I'm watching the encore of the parade (via KTLA) on Discovery HD right now.

I also heard somewhere (don't know if it's true) that Allen's is the largest HS band in the US.

#49 Havoc

You're suffering from knee surgery ?

Yup, minor surgery.

It doesn't approach a couple of beers or good shot of Demoral, but alternating ice and a good soak in the hot whirlpool ---

Dilaudid and Celebrex works pretty good.

have a Couple of these.

I didn't take any pills on New Year's Eve. Bad mistake.

“The presence of anti-aircraft missiles in Gaza considerably heightens the threat against Israeli aircraft, both military and civilian,” the report said. “It also increases the risk that such weaponry will enter the West Bank where it will present a significant threat to Israeli aviation.”

I wouldn't worry about that at all.

The State Dept is already on record stating that unencumbered transit between Gaza and the West Bank will have positive 'strategic ramifications'.

They must know what they're talking about, right?

i know of no other group of people who have existed for so long, albeit tenuously in certain eras, than the jewish mishboha(sp).
even my limited view of history shows that whatever group/gov't culture tries to eliminate the jewish race does not survive/thrive.
G-d daid so, and for 4,000 plus years, it's still true.
and i for one, am not in a position to call G-d a liar.
the arabs do not/cannot/will not get it.
but, having an "eternally evil presence" (thier words) on their 'border', allows them to focus on everything but their own sins...

'Nam, do you have an approximate date for the BBQ yet?

#51 Bob with one O
Morning Bob!

#52 PowerFlip

some Arab Countries are supporting the Palestinian cause as well...don't you think?

I'm glad I am financing the "palestinian cause" together with the mortal enemies of Israel and of America.
Great point.

#32 Poitiers-Lepanto

Sad but horribly true.

The only Parade I want to watch is when our Brave Troops come home after defeating the murdering muslim terrorist savages that are trying to kill us all!

AFTERNOON LIZARDS AND LIZARDESSES!

Am here at work. Nobody is here. It's raining and I want to go home.

#60 Ward Cleaver,

I'm looking at the latter part of July right now, I'll let you know.

#58 Maine's Michael Broken Record

The State Dept is already on record stating that unencumbered transit between Gaza and the West Bank will have positive 'strategic ramifications'.

Eqypt is in the West Bank?

Really, your tired repetive BS is getting real old.

#66 'Nam Grunt

'Nam, it's hot in Texas in July...

OT

Per Michelle Malkin, I think we need to expand the Idiotarian list. It seems the viewers of Black Entertainment Television have voted Louis Farrakhan the 2005 Person of the Year. Pretty awful I would say, for any decent sized group of people to name this bigoted sleazebag to any kind of award. I wonder how many people responded to this poll?

#55 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

Back from the non-halal Mohammad-Mart. Despite being Pakistani Muslim owned, they stock alcohol, porno (in a rack right by the register, and not just Playboy and Penthouse either) and, I noticed today, pork rinds.

Maybe they are not part of the jihad.

Like those Yemeni Muslims in Oakland whose liquor store was first trashed, and then torched by Calypso Louie's Bowtie Brigade.

#69 Alone in NY

I wonder how many people responded to this poll?

What makes you think they had a poll? BET has long been edited out of my channel list.

I really wonder what would happen it there was a WET (White Entertainment Television).

Yes, and hearing the Allen Eagle whatever (French word), I thought it was the UT band coming, because they were playing what the UT band calls the March Grandiose. One usually sings along, space beetween letters T- - - -E- - - - X - - -A - - -S - - Texas- - - - Fight.

Not the UT fight song (Texas Fight), nor the Eyes of Texas, but a cool tune none the less. I've also heard the Texas Tech Red Raider Band play the piece, but I thought it was The Texas Band coming.

Teri Hatcher looks so hot when wet.

It said that Palestinian militants were acquiring anti-aircraft missiles primarily to thwart Israeli air strikes on militants in Gaza, but it said these weapons could in theory threaten civilian aircraft in Israel.

The al-Reuters editors must have been asleep at the switch when this came down. I mean, it is settled fact among terrorists, the news media, and progressives alike that there are no Israeli "civilians", right?

smuggled?

Hah!

#65 Mousey,

"I wanna go home", "I wanna go home", "Ohhh Lord I wanna go home" LOL, how you doin' kiddo?

Extra "e" in between not seen until the horrifying 15 seconds on a 56k modem between hititng "post" and the page starts to load.

With all the pre-election violence it is obvious that the Palis are not ready for a state.

Oh wait. That is the MSM view on Iraq, not Palestine.

Never mind.

Sarah D,

Better stock up now with cold adult beverages!

#68 Sarah D.,

And your point is? My love.

this is the same reuters who refer to Uzi's as machine guns.

I want to know what kind of anti aircraft weapons we are talking about, Stingers, Strellas?

One Israeli aircraft gets shot down and i swear Gaza will be razed.

58 Maine's Michael...

The State Dept is already on record stating that unencumbered transit between Gaza and the West Bank will have positive 'strategic ramifications'.

Um, maybe make it easier, in terms of the disapproval of the "international community" to drop two MOABs in there later?

/wishful thinking/

Okay, I just saw the Allen Escadrille (missed them this morning), and yes, it it the largest high school marching band in the United States.

If I had to guess, Id say they had 300 band members, like UT's band.

I remember when there were only 300 students at Allen HS, before the building boom.

#71 Reaganite

What makes you think they had a poll? BET has long been edited out of my channel list.

That would make sense and I hope you are right. I don't watch 'em either, I just am amazed by the vote (assuming there was one).

75 'Nam Grunt

I'm bored to tears. Did have a nice lunch with hubby and youngest though.

#78 Bob with one O

I'll need one big enough to float in.

Greetings, rightymouse!

I'm here at home, with a three kids watching DVD's and one min-ja-Ben running around in nothing but a t-shirt and papa's boots. I've been trying to call businesses but, guess what, YOU are the only one working! GO HOME! Maybe you can get the wife to sport Benji's outfit?

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

#84 Mousey,

So it isn't a bad day after all. ;-)

Well, Texas may be warm in July, but any location along the Upper Texas Coast from Freeport to Port Orange will usually benefit from sea breezes blowing in off the chill 28^oC Gulf. Now, in late August, when the Gulf hits 32 or 33^o, the sea breeze isn't quite as refreshing, but the July version usually works its way in as far as I-10 East of Houston, and sometimes even brings refreshing afternoon showers.

Plus, I can't remember the last time a major hurricane hit the upper Texas coast before August. Well, yes I can, 1957, although, since I wasn't born yet, I don't actually remember that.

55 Ed. I don't know if anything in the Koran forbids muslims from profiting off sales of halal goods to the kufr. Ya know, since we're not fully human and all, we kufrs need our little diversions. All the better to keep us fat and stupid for the coming of the ummah or whatever it is called.

Sarah,

We were discussing hot tubs last night. Coincidence? I think not.

#83 Alone in NY

That would make sense and I hope you are right. I don't watch 'em either, I just am amazed by the vote (assuming there was one).

I've seen worse so called "polls".

oops! correct the sexes on that, rightymouse. You always sounded male to me!

tho tholly

No. 59 rcpilot:

What you say is true.

And here is what Yoda would say of the islamics:

"On their way out they are."

Note that they are fighting furtively from a position of weakness.

They cannot field an army in uniforms nor can they put an airforce into the sky with pan-islamic markings.

Historically it is over for them.

Wait till their women rebell too.

Happy 2006!

Ed,

August 1957? Lows usually cause births and as I was born in August 1957...

#90 Bob with one O,

Hell Bob, that woman is a Fla. girl she can take the heat, she performed well at the ist Annual Texas meetup, made me proud anyway. LOL!

#86 mungagungadin

"You always sounded male to me! tho tholly."
LOL!

#87 'Nam Grunt

The sales dept. just decided to hold a meeting in the executive conference room. Drat! I was hoping to take a nap.

#96 Mousey,

Give 'em hell!

#39 amir

Cleared for publication: Ramzi Salah, a 22-year-old Gaza Strip resident, planned to detonate himself with other suicide bombers at Israel's nuclear reactor in Dimona

I saw a picture of the results when a suicide bomber in Iraq tried to take out a Bradley Fighting Vehicle. It looked like someone had thrown red paint on the Bradley. That is what would happen on a reactor building.

Chins up, people of the promise. I've read the Book, and not to give away the ending or anything, but the good guys win.

Some of the middle chapters, however, are a real bummer.

#98 [Engineer]

It looked like someone had thrown red paint on the Bradley. That is what would happen on a reactor building.

Yup. you are 100% correct.

#79 'Nam Grunt

A/C maybe?

Okay, so what is everybody up to now ? Had to run out and actually do something constructive for a change (go figure). Dropped by the new Circuit City store here for no reason in particular, and came out $ 109 poorer. Sigh.

#68 Sarah D.

'Nam, it's hot in Texas in July...

If you think July is hot, try the end of August.

#101 Sarah D.,

Maybe darlin'! If not I'll get one of those large feather fans and post EW1 beside you and let him fan you. LOL!

#97 'Nam Grunt

Grrr...they are definitely interrupting the boring peaceful ambience up here.

#105 'Nam Grunt

I'm sure he'll just love that 'Nam! LOL!

Yes, the Crimson Tide has indeed figured out that if the Texas Tech offensive linemen line up 4 or 5 feet apart from each other, blitzing a linebacker right through the middle is the way to knock the QB out of the game, and keep an "explosive" offense down to a field goal. Amazing less that have of the Red Raider's opponents figured that out this year.

If anyone's bored, I could offer you an afternoon of taking down all my Christmas decorations for me.

I've got Swedish glogg, if that makes a difference in any way.

rayra,

Moonbats everywhere. At least someone called them on it.

It seems to me that if the Israelis know that misiles have been smuggled that they also know where some of them are, or have already eliminated some. I also don't think for a second that a few anti-aircraft missiles are going to slow down the Israelis. Really, do you think that they don't have a contingincy plan? The only most significant result of the Palestinians escalating their arms is going to be more Palestinian deaths. If, God forbid, they actually used one of these missiles on an airliner, there wouldn't be a hole deep enough to hide them.

#103 rayra,

HNY to you and yours, Little 'roo is going to be pissed about that! ;-)

# 189 wingfam mom

Sigh. Gotta do that myself. But I think I'm gonna let it slide one more day, until The Goddess of Periodicals goes back to work. It's such a depressing job that I would rather do it myself when nobody else is around.

#103 rayra

Dhimmi Sydney City Council bans flying Aussie flag on beaches, New South Wales Premier jumps their shit.

Hehe, I love to watch LLL backpedel when they get called on their shit.

rayra - where you at

I've got major blinding rainstorm thunderboomers too. In Wisconsin no less. Go figure.

#109 wingfam mom,

I had a gingerbread Xmas tree for my only decoration, but I ate it so my decorations are down LOL!

#113 Mike C.

Ever just want to pitch all the crap in the dumpster and just buy new next year? Just to be saved from packing /boxing /storing ? yecch.

#117 Nam grunt

Now why didn't I think of that?

#7 Powerflip

Are you advocaying invading Switzerland? Cool!
Or just a certain building on the south end of Madhatten?

#114 rayra

Waiting for the aforementioned crazy-assed rainstorm to let up a bit, so I can open the garage door and fire up the Tablesaw of Despair to finish some cabinetry work, without a horizontal flood pouring in.

LOL, I thought I was the only one who did wood working in the driveway!

#119 wingfam mom,

Good idea yes, but not mine it was given to me by a certain someone that drags me off to church once in awhile, it was nice though and I started eating it the day after Xmas. ;-)

I hope that soon the good guys take off the gloves and begin to fight back in earnest.

I just abhor the thought of whatever action has to occur to allow us to wipe out this disease before it kills civilization.

If the WTC and massacre of 800,000 Africans didn't do it, what will?

#111 political junkie: If, God forbid, they actually used one of these missiles on an airliner, there wouldn't be a hole deep enough to hide them.

Fine, but meanwhile -- what airlines would still be willing to fly into/out of Ben-Gurion any more? The suicidal/homicidal SOB's might not be particularly concerned about finding holes to hide in.

#50 Nam Grunt

It was really realy great, all the kids home, Whole Fam. did parts in the "living Nativity" brought my "little Brother" in and all the kids loved on him, (I wrote you a 3800 character reply with lot's of details and links)
and lost it when I accidentally closed the window. Hah !

Maybe I'll e-mail you one later.

I hope all of you & yours had a great great time.

# 118 wingfam mom

No ! I don't tend to buy more than one or two Christmas ornaments a year, on average, because that's all I can ever find that are worth owning. If I tossed all these out, it would take me freaking forever to replace them ! I bought three new tree ornaments earlier this year that are OK, and The Goddess of Periodicals gave me one of the official 2005 White House ornaments as a prezzie, so we're over average for this season. Better to pack them carefully away than spend the rest of my life trying to replace them.

#125 Havoc,

Looking forward to reading it Brother, and yes I had a nice Christmas, very pleasant. Bless you and your familiy. ;-)

# 121 reag

not in the driveway, but the front of the garage (with door wide open) was S.O.P. in my (fomer) neighborhood ...

#122 'Nam Grunt

Want to send you a funny video clip. Can you handle downloads?

THROW OUT ORNAMENTS?

I'm with Mike C. - have spent too many years accumulating ornaments. Most have sentimental value, the others are unique.

#129 Mousey,

Yes as long as they are jpg's I think. ;-)

#131 'Nam Grunt

This is a 3MB .wmv file.

# 103 ray

"Federal Liberal MP Malcolm Turnbull, who had offered to buy a flagpole and supply the Australian and **Aboriginal** flags"

so, uh, what college prof invented that particular banner and how many years ago?
:-~

#128 Buckaroo

not in the driveway, but the front of the garage (with door wide open) was S.O.P. in my (fomer) neighborhood ...

LOL, I actually put up an awning to work!

Washington Post called the opening of the Egyptian border “one of the few successes of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas,” and stated that “Hamas should be given the chance to become a democratic movement.”

Can the State Department be far behind?

I can see it. One of "Condi's" great diplomatic 'victories' last year was pushing Israel into agreening to unencumbered transit of convoys twixt gaza and 'west bank'.

Someone should teel her whipping the puppy trying to lick her face does not make her a lion tamer.

If Hamas becomes a party to the 'democratization of the middle east', not only will they have talks with offical Washington, but they will become untouchable as far as serious retribution and preventive action from the Israelis is concerned. Can't risk slowing down the 'democracy train' don't you know.

That must be why more than a dozen senior Hamas goons have 'come home' to gaza, along with the surface to air missiles, in recent weeks.

Use of this 'democratization of the arab world' fig leaf for the American Mid East power realignment has a definite downside for the Israelis, who will (as usual) pay in blood.

Of course, as far as the Admin is concerned, 'that's not a bug, that's a feature'.

#132 Mousey,

Give it a try and I'll see later when I dredge through all of my email. ;-)

# 130 rightymouse

You tell 'em, girl ! I've got a couple of absolutely fabulous ones, and that's not even counting the ones the kids made at school 15-20 years ago. Just where in hell could I ever get replacements for those ?

#135 Maine's Michael Broken Record

Of course, as far as the Admin is concerned, 'that's not a bug, that's a feature'.

You're BDS is boring.

#137 Mike C.,

I always knew you were a softy bud, LOL!

Artillery is fine with me, much cheaper than missiles, and I like a little collateral damage.

Also, I suggest giving the PA a few helicopters ...

Artillery is fine with me, much cheaper than missiles, and I like a little collateral damage.

Good for you, Moby.

# 65 rightymouse

Am here at work. Nobody is here. It's raining and I want to go home.

[You're lucky. Les' car broke down and he won't be able to do pizza deliver for the next two days. As you can imagine, he's not happy about it.]

("...grumble grumble grumble...")

[Nope. Still not happy. Check back later.]

#136 'Nam Grunt

On the way!

# 138 reaganite

I dunno, guy. With all due respect, I might have to go with M_M on this one. That move by the State Dept. could most charitably be characterized as an error in judgement. Just saying...

#140 itellu3times,

If you gave those savages choppers they would try to fly 'em with the blades tied down, stupid bastards!

OT, race relations...

This piece is depressing...the Black community continues to gobble up the conspiracy theories spewed about by maggots such as Farakhan...

www.michellemalkin.com

FARRAKHAN WINS A PRIZE
By Michelle Malkin · January 02, 2006 11:17 AM
Did you see who Black Entertainment Television viewers named 2005's Person of the Year (hat tip: reader J.K.):

BET.com users have selected Minister Louis Farrakhan as the 2005 Person of the Year.
"An overwhelming percentage of our users agreed that Minister Farrakhan made the most positive impact on the Black community over the past year and chose him as the person most worthy to receive the honor of BET.com's 2005 Person of the Year," said Retha Hill, BET.com's vice president for Content.

They agreed that he has done what no other African American leader has: "mobilize hundreds of thousands of Blacks around the issues of atonement and empowerment, and to convince the masses of our people that we must be the primary catalysts and engines for positive change in our communities," she said.

"I am greatly honored and extremely humbled that the BET.com users have chosen me as the 2005 Person of the Year, especially since the nominees for such an honor are some of the greatest members of the Black community in the world; Ms. Oprah Winfrey, Senator Barack Obama, the father of BET Robert L. Johnson and the suffering victims of Hurricane Katrina of New Orleans," Minister Farrakhan told BET.com.

"Honor is never deserved until after the work and mission is completed. The work of the liberation of our people, and the poor and oppressed around the globe is a long, difficult, protracted struggle.

"So, I accept this great honor as encouragement to work as hard as I can in the twilight years of my life to facilitate the success of this ongoing struggle."

Yes, while fellow black American Lt. Gen. Russell Honore was actually rescuing Hurricane Katrina victims, mobilizing troops, and saving lives, Farrakhan was bloviating about levees being blown up and stewing in racial hatred.

And Farrakhan gets the honor for having the "most positive impact on the Black community?"

BET online users, to borrow Lt. Gen. Honore's signature phrase, are hopelessly stuck on stupid.

Reaganite,

How would they go about using these new missiles to shoot down UAVs?

Doesn't look to me like it'd work too well.

And what goes up...

Israel is really in a bad situation. If they move to defend themselves and pre-emptively attack, then they will have to face the reality that 6 million Jews are surrounded by what...3 billion Arabs/Muslims (I have no idea what the number is)? It seems to me that Israel has to rely on the West to save them. Europe (who is not Israel's friend) is in a similar precarious position. So what...it comes down to US again? Always us? Well, in that case, we had better build some serious security walls.

#144 Mike C.

That move by the State Dept. could most charitably be characterized as an error in judgement. Just saying...

State did not make Israel pull out of Gaza. Israel did.

MM's continual single track posts are old. He just bangs the same thing over and over.

If he could manage to control his BDS, he might occasionally make a valid point.

#145 'Nam Grunt 1/2/2006 11:59AM PST
#140 itellu3times,

If you gave those savages choppers they would try to fly 'em with the blades tied down, stupid bastards!

{psst: maybe that's the idea!}

#137 Mike C.

Absolutely no way could be replaced!

I still have snowman ornaments made by the kids out of popsicle sticks, cotton balls and glitter. Each year all the kids walk around the tree pointing out the ornaments they made through the years.

When our animals die, their stockings go on the tree. (Yes, our dogs and cats have their own stockings).

#147 razorbacker

How would they go about using these new missiles to shoot down UAVs?

It really depends on what missile they are. The older MANPADS are useless against UAVs.

# 146 S

Nothin' against Michelle, but why dignify this with any addl. publicity? BET's av. hourly viewership is prob. less than LGF's daily unique visits!

you could give me ~10 guesses & I prob. couldn't tell you BET's proper channel on my cable setup (or if I even have it!)

#142 The Other Les

What's wrong with your car?

#153 Buckaroo

you could give me ~10 guesses & I prob. couldn't tell you BET's proper channel on my cable setup (or if I even have it!)

I deleted it off my channel list.

144 Mike C.

Not sure there's any respect due, Mike.

Some people seem to think cluttering up a discussion board with talk about their hangovers and boozing isn't 'boring'.

Charles,

I'm being 'stalked' by the same drunken ass once again.

Would you rather people post political opinions or hangover and booze descriptions here?

#156 Maine's Michael

I'm being 'stalked' by the same drunken ass once again.

Listen you baffoon, you posted on a public forum, which I was already posting on. You don't get to decide who responds to your posts.

Grow up.

# 156

Hey dumbass i really wouldn't put that to a vote ...
:-0

# 154 rightymouse

What's wrong with your car?

It's long overdue for the scrapyard.

[It's something to do with the ignition system as far as we can tell. The garage won't be able to work on it until tomorrow.]

# 155 reag

"deleted off the channel list"

Sounds like too much work compared to "just never clicking on the thing in the first place"
:-)

This is VERY OT-
(can't find the open thread)

can anyone tell me why Dennis Prager is getting divorced? I heard the LAST part of his discussion in the radio and can't find the beginning. I'm sick about it. Since Dad got dementia... honest, I feel like he IS family...

Anyone know anything, or where to find it?

# 158 Buckaroo

[Not around here anyway.]

Mike C. (#144),

Israel has a prime minister and his name isn't Condaleeza Rice.

Job opening for interested lizards

Internews Europe, Radio Resident Advisor – Palestine

The radio resident advisor will work as the EU radio expert and Internews Europe representative for a project set up in Palestine to develop and strengthen the local independent radio sector, to improve journalism standards and to strengthen the role of local broadcasting in supporting freedom of expression, local development and civil society.

Sounds like my POS but it's like the energizer bunny so far, new digs and new truck are very close to me now, so whooohooo! LOL

I expect that the height of technology for the Palis will continue to be splodydopes.

OT, notice that these stooges (no offense to Moe, Larry, and/or Curly), need technology to run the greenhouses the feelthy Jooos left behind, but their money goes for more arms.

That's one fine country they're building.

#159 The Other Les

Good luck with that then! Nothing worse than having a car that causes problems.

#160 Buckaroo

Sounds like too much work compared to "just never clicking on the thing in the first place"

It's pretty easy with DTV. I'd just rather not see it at all on my channel menu.

# 161 mun

NOOO!

[tho at least Dennis and I would finally have something in common]

:-(

Links please!

#149 reaganite

If he could manage to control his BDS, he might occasionally make a valid point.

Now be nice. That is all he has left of a once functioning mind.

#166 razorbacker

That's one fine country they're building.

The only thing they are building is their own destruction.

#170 [Engineer]

Now be nice. That is all he has left of a once functioning mind.

Sadly true.

Damn! This really is family what with all the internecine combat and such.

# 156 Maine's Michael

I was with you on your point regarding political matters. You get into the personal attack stuff, then I'm sorry, but you're on your own. Mikey don't go there.

#173 Bob with one O

Damn! This really is family what with all the internecine combat and such.

Every family does has it's moonbats.

razorbacker,

What? You don't like Shemp?

Israel has a prime minister and his name isn't Condaleeza Rice.

Let's see:

"The good cause of the Palestinian People"

"I have a vision of two states, living side by side in peace."

"Israel has the right to defend itself BUT is should bear int he mind the consequences of its actions, and how those might impact the President's vison of two states living side by side in peace."

"Enough is Enough"

#173 Bob with one O,

So much love Bob, FOAD, STFU, STFD, LOL!

# 167 rightymouse

[Thank you.]

#177 Maine's Michael
So now you're claiming Condaleeza Rice is the Prime Minister of Israel?

# 163 Geepers

Yeah, I've heard that. But the fact of the matter is that we (the US) were loudly advertised as pushing this "solution". And I think that was a rather bad idea. Don't get all excited - it's just my opinion.

Hey, Reagnaite, Engineer, Maine's Michael-

How can you be fighting when there is a smorgasbord of college football on TV, a cornucopia of gridiron action, and a severe thunderstorm is hititng Los Angeles County?

happy new years, all!

i'm going off topic... sort of.

december 20th - our entire group (except our manager) was "donwsized" including yours truly. better-than-expected severence package, though.

december 21st - called a former engineering manager i used to work for who said, "how about an assignment at saab in trollhaetten, sweden?". feigned mulling it over for about 30 seconds before replying as casually as possible, "sure".

january 2nd - just finished negotiating expat contract and waiting for work visa approval / start date. should be over there before end of the month.

whew... am i lucky or what?! i'll answer that - - i'm really, REALLY fucking lucky.

so, got a couple good travel books and have researched sweden up and down on the net, especially trollhaetten. one travel book had dedicated several pages to the "immigrant problem". the description of the "problem" was written in the usual victimized liberal jargon but the accomanying photos of middle eastern folks told the story. the book did mention the "ghettos" (their word) which are largely in the southern area. they mentioned trollhaetten specifically.

i'm not too worried. i'd lived in cologne for several years and my favorite restaurants, pubs and internet cafes were in the turkish areas and i never had a problem. in fact, i befriended a few turks simply by chatting with them without the contempt they get from most germans. there was this one young turk who was a bartender in my favorite hotel lounge and we'd have long debates about everything and anything. he once smirkingly asked me if i knew the capital of turkey, as if an american would never be bothered knowing the name of turkeys' capital city, and i answered correctly, "ankarah" (sp ?). he was floored. after that, whenever i ordered my usual cognac (no canadian whiskey in germany that i could find) he'd always pour me a double.

but, westernized turks in germany are one thing and african / middle eastern muslims in sweden are probably an entirely different kettle of fish...

hey charles - any on-locale assignments for me?

reaganite --

You previously discussed "shelf Life" of MANPADS.

1) Any speculation on Shelf life of the latest generation being produced and proliferated by the Russians ?

2) Whofrom/Where are the Paleo's getting theirs ?

3) Is there an active "return to Sender" ? program for the proliferators, A) yes B)no C) don't Know D) all of the above and I can't say due to agreements signed at retirement

Previously I would expect massive anti-muslim "unrest" e.g. violence, in countries suffering civilian airliner MANPAD shootdowns.

I'm not so sure now, other than a few individuals who might be expected to go after Imams.

OT

Mike
Thanks for your response on Oman. At least I think it was you who answered my question from last night, lol.

Hey, Righty!

174 Mike C.

No sweat.

#158 Buckaroo

Well, Mr. Buckaroo, this ain't a democracy.

Its a website that belongs to someone.

#182 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

How can you be fighting when there is a smorgasbord of college football on TV, a cornucopia of gridiron action, and a severe thunderstorm is hititng Los Angeles County?

Ann's the football watcher and we got our own storms here!

# 186

and you know damn well what side that someone is gonna come down on ...

#185 St. Pancake

Hey there!

Nam,

Let me buy you a beer. And don't forget:

"ESABATM"

(eat sh!+ and bark at the moon)

# 183 kir

Great news, good luck ...

and stay out of Malmo!
:-0

#182 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

How can you be fighting when there is a smorgasbord of college football on TV, a cornucopia of gridiron action, and a severe thunderstorm is hititng Los Angeles County?

We are discussing a subject that Charles wants discussed. I don't think he runs this blog to talk about football, etc.

The severe part of the storm has exited Los Angeles County.

#135 MM

Michael, you must have missed this article in the NY Times the other day:

No Buses Roll From Gaza to West Bank, Despite Deal

By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: December 31, 2005
JERUSALEM, Dec. 30 - With much fanfare, after an unscheduled all-night negotiating session, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice announced Nov. 15 that she had reached an agreement with Israel and the Palestinians on opening the Rafah crossing between Egypt and Gaza, and on establishing a bus convoy for Palestinians to travel between Gaza and the West Bank starting Dec. 15.

With complicated last-minute negotiating here on Nov. 24, Rafah opened on time on Nov. 25, with technical snags that have been quietly fixed.

But the deadline for the bus convoy has come and gone. And despite open American disappointment, Israel says it has no intention of continuing discussions on the convoy so long as Palestinians continue to fire homemade rockets out of Gaza.

The convoy issue is an example of the complicated American-Israeli-Palestinian triangle - the personal involvement required from high-level American officials to achieve even minor agreements, the lack of leverage of the Palestinians, and the way in which Israeli domestic politics and the issue of security causes promises made under American pressure to be delayed and even derailed.

Israel was never very interested in providing a way for Gazans to travel to the West Bank, and agreed to the idea only under strong American pressure. Washington's motivation is to try to help the beleaguered Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, known as Abu Mazen, whose divided Fatah faction faces a tough electoral battle against the militant faction Hamas in legislative elections scheduled for Jan. 25.

A senior American official(I wonder who that could be? Any guesses?)in Washington recently summed up American Middle East policy this way: "Do all we can to help and get Israel to help Abu Mazen beat back Hamas." The convoys are meant to be a "deliverable," to ease the isolation of Gazans and show that Mr. Abbas's policy of negotiation bears fruit.

There's more here:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Also, that great blog mediacrity has some great criticism of the above article as well:
The second example of Times Israel-bashing this weekend is a story by Steven Erlanger entitled, "No Buses Roll From Gaza to West Bank, Despite Deal."

This story is faithful to Times editorial policy -- to underplay Palestinian violence and Road Map violations, while overplaying Israeli responses. In this instance, Israelis were understandably reluctant to blithely bus Gazans to the West Bank, at the same time Palestinian officials do nothing about a constant barrage of missiles from Gaza.

Note this phrasing:

The convoy issue is an example of the complicated American-Israeli-Palestinian triangle - the personal involvement required from high-level American officials to achieve even minor agreements, the lack of leverage of the Palestinians, and the way in which Israeli domestic politics and the issue of security causes promises made under American pressure to be delayed and even derailed.
[Link: mediacrity.blogspot.com...]

#169 buckaroo

All I can find on Dennis's Divorce.

Friday, December 30, 2005 Radio Show

Hour 2:
The Happiness Hour: A Divorce
Dennis makes a sad announcement. He and his wife, Fran, are divorcing after 17 years of marriage. Listeners react.

Hour 3:
Open Lines
Callers continue to call in about Dennis’s divorce, but other subjects come up to – when do you tell your child that Santa is not real and how do you know when you can trust someone?

rightymouse

Hey, did you get the mirror?

#188 Buckaroo

Actually I don't for know for sure.

WHat do you think, Mr. Buckaroo?

“Hamas should be given the chance to become a democratic movement.”

Al-Queda too.
When's the next Saudi election ?

Yup, democracy will reform Islam.
Oh wait, Islam isn't a problem...it's a great religion of peace and benevolence.
Just ask Wahhabi and Sleezza.

#184 Havoc

Any speculation on Shelf life of the latest generation being produced and proliferated by the Russians ?

Usually with MANPADS the shelflife is about 1-2 years before they must go back to depot for work.

Whofrom/Where are the Paleo's getting theirs ?

My guess is Syria and Iran.

Is there an active "return to Sender" ? program for the proliferators, A) yes B)no C) don't Know D) all of the above and I can't say due to agreements signed at retirement

That would be "D".

Ann,

I'm trying to keep up with all the games as I type I already have worn out two batteries in my remote. LOL!

Sorry, left off the LOL and:

: )

#135 Maine's Michael

I've read today where the US isn't going to 'demand' the crossing of Israel proper be allowed the Palestinians, but that under-secretary and his crew will still be pushing it.
Discussions of Cross-Israel 'Safe Passage' Suspended

Also this:
GSS: 900% Increase in Terrorist Smuggling in Four Months

Let's see, counting backwards... coincidentally, it seems, the terror attacks have gone up 900% much since the Gaza expulsion.

#196 St. Pancake

B-day is in a few weeks. Should get the mirror then! Must practice being surprised! LOL!

#198 Muck DeFuslims

Just ask Wahhabi and Sleezza.

Nice case of BDS you got there. You and MM make a great couple. Perhaps you should consider dating?

# 197

Well I suppose the fact you are still here throws a little uncertainty into the whole thing ...

176 Bob

Frankly, no.

Curly is the third stooge, as far as I'm concerned.

And not that other Curly (what the hell was his name, Curly Joe?). The right Curly, the one who shuffled, and said neurk, neurk, neurk, and went crazy during the boxing match and cold cocked everyone.

That Curly.

#190 Bob with one O,

Bob, sorry I forgot about that one my friend. ;-)

# 185 St. Pancake

You mean the bit about Oman's military relations with the US ? Yup, that would be me.

Glad, mighty. I am with you on ornaments. I collect a few every year. My most sentimental one now is the WTC commeroration ornament I got off of eBay.

#200 'Nam Grunt
Ann went to the store, she'll be back in about 20 minutes.

192 Engineer-

Now, you are being no fun.

I have some sympathy to Maine's Michael as far as it appears State doesn't quite seem to get the big picture (being charitable), however, it seems, especially recently, that Prime Minister Sharon is offering little resistance to what State has been proposing.

I still suspect at some point Abbas will go one step to far (like Arafat did when he lied to Bush directly about the boat (Karina A?) carrying weapons from Iran) and Bush will stop dealing with him. I kind of thought approving pensions to the families of suicide bombers would do it, but I still think Bush will reach a point of no return with the P.A.

MJ,

I know they're not rolling, YET.

But they will. After all, they have 'strategic ramifications.'

Israel needs to help a terrorist organizer/financer cum holocaust denier and slow genocide proponent strengthen his hand against ouright fast-genocide proponents.

And all of this must happen to the US can show the europeans and the arab world that the US can deliver Israel, to some degree, to partially compensate for the red hot poker up the butt which is an american presence in the heart of the arab world.

In order to do so, Israel MUST show that slow genocide is working. Israeli limbs must fly!

Mike, thanks again. I am trying to sort out all of the alliances in that part of the world. Have you been to Oman?

#211 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades
Well stated.

Hamas will become a disarmed political party when you can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Liberals have to use their best Molotov von Ribbentrop logic to get that one to work. From August 23d 1939 until Hitler invaded Germany on June 22d 1941, the left was happy to say that Hitler was their friend.

Perhaps some liberals would like to stand in the open areas between Sderot and Gaza so they can coach Hamas on disarming...

#212 Maine's Michael

In order to do so, Israel MUST show that slow genocide is working. Israeli limbs must fly!

You really are that deranged, aren't you?

Sad to see a melt down like yours, really sad.

The statement contradicts reports and assessments in Israel according to which the Europeans will stop their monthly donation - amounting to 10 million euros, which they have been sending the Palestinians since June 2001 - now that Israel has resumed its transfer of monies to the PA.
The last US aid package for the PA ($350,000,000) was channeled through Israel in May, 2005. The money came with strings attached, filtered through NGO's.
Even the EU threatens to stop if Hamas wins the elections.

Good guy/bad guy is complex if you examine the facts.

#212 Maine's Michael,

If I must, why don't you step up to the plate and say that to an IDF Soldier male or female, and see how many limbs fly, are you insane?

#211 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

I have some sympathy to Maine's Michael as far as it appears State doesn't quite seem to get the big picture (being charitable),

I don't know ANY State policy that I agree with. However, none of us know what is really going on.

The thing that Maine's Michael will not see is that Israel does what Israel wants to do. We only give them advice. Sure, we can cut off aid if they don't follow our advice, but that is their decision.

#212 Maine's Michael

And all of this must happen to the US can show the europeans and the arab world that the US can deliver Israel, to some degree, to partially compensate for the red hot poker up the butt which is an american presence in the heart of the arab world.

In order to do so, Israel MUST show that slow genocide is working. Israeli limbs must fly!

I surely do not agree with the state dept most times, but come on. America is not Israel's enemy.

You've lost it.

Hey Reaganite!
Get yerself well!

And, man oh man, what's with all these folks pi$$in' in yer beer?

What'd you do? Step on his (M-M) puppy?

OT

Under 12 minutes left in Toyota Gator Bowl. The Good Year blimp has already fled the area. Can the possibly tornadic thunderstorms reach Jacksonville before the game ends?

When a poster makes an irrational, emotion based, provocative statement, then it is tough to respond with a rational comment. So I wont.

MM

Even though that NYT article was the usual anti-Isarel drivel, it was encourging to read the following quote, if, for no other reason than it demonstrates that there is at least one person still left in Israel that understands the notion of sovereignty:

"One Israeli security official told the daily tabloid Yediot Aharonot: "No country in the world would allow interference in its sovereignty to the extent that the American representatives are asking of us. They even interfere in the matter of the kind of buses that will be used, where the crossings will be, and are unwilling to accept any limits on age."

# 213 St. Pancake

Spent a couple of months there back a few ago. Nice place, all in all. Certainly the nicest place on the Arabian penninsula.

#221 sgt tom
Hey! Good to see you, where have you been?

What'd you do? Step on his (M-M) puppy?

It's just his normal case of BDS.

#211 Ed

I take the same psoition in time,

"In Time" is the hard part, the "World" including Paleo, Hizbollah, Baathist, and Iranian thuggocrat, plotters understand the short attention span of democratic countries' voters...

... and are playing a waiting game. Cheat and retreat ... up to the line and back just enough to prevent the "unleashing" of western powers current version of Curtis LeMay

On the other hand, I think 2 or 3 civilian Airliner shootdowns would do it, with video of "rejoicing Palistinians" .

Mike C and Co. -

I humbly beseech forgiveness for suggestion re: 'trashing the Christmas decorations'. Of course, family sentiment and lovely memories always trump cleaning-up grumpiness. I was speaking from a totally dazed state of post-holiday depression. Won't happen again.

Well, it might happen again.

Thanks, Mike. Is it in the same vein a Abu Dhabi and the other smaller Gulf states?

The thing that Maine's Michael will not see is that Israel does what Israel wants to do. We only give them advice. Sure, we can cut off aid if they don't follow our advice, but that is their decision.

And if we cut off aid, their own defense industry is free and happy to sell to the Chinese and NorKs. So we counsel, we cajole, but we really don't boss them too much. And we're on better terms with their military than we are with the Fwench.

Hey there sgt. tom,

HNY! to you and yours.

Well, I suppose ya gotta acknowledge a step forward when you can: at least, in his last 3 or so direct replies to Maine's Michael, reaganite refrained from crossing out the nic and sticking in "Broken record".

(That always reminded me of "conjugating adjectives", anyway. You know? Like, "I'm resolute, you're pig-headed." "I'm consistent, you're a broken record.")

It's gettin' late here, and I do have to go to work in the morning...

Maine's Michael: Tahazik ma'amad!

Hey Wingfam!

 #212 Maine's Michael
And all of this must happen to the US can show the europeans and the arab world that the US can deliver Israel, to some degree, to partially compensate for the red hot poker up the butt which is an american presence in the heart of the arab world.

In order to do so, Israel MUST show that slow genocide is working. Israeli limbs must fly!

Mike...

Israel has nothing to defend itself in case of an attack?

Grunting's and Hallucinations to everyone

time to put the grades in the computer.

Busy,busy busy

Glad to be here, Reaganite.
'Been working. Visited family over the holidays.

My daughter re-upped. And got promoted...
she'll be headed to the 101st pretty soon.

Havin' a great holiday season?
Looks like Virg. Tech may pull this one out... they're moving again.

219 Engineer-

Looking at one of the posts above, State may be hoping to keep Hamas from winning the elections.

Of course, the P.A. being openly run by Hamas will certainly increase the terror attacks in the short term, but might be bad strategy for the Palestinians, as Fatah at least makes noises about a peace process and coexistence with Israel, which makes it harder for Israel to justify to the EU/UN/State squashing the P.A. like a mosquito, even though Fatah shares the same ultimate goal for Israel.

Anyone read this yet?

“Land for Land”: Sharon’s Expert Reveals His Plan for Peace

In the exchange – which must be negotiated with the Palestinians – Israel would cede a triangle of territory close to its present boundaries, east of Tel Aviv and Netanya, mostly inhabited by Arabs, plus a cluster of villages around Galilee, also inhabited by Arabs.

The cession would concern around a half million Arabs, one third of those living within Israel’s current boundaries.

In exchange, Israel would absorb within its future boundaries some of the areas of Cisjordan in which there are now around 60,000 Jewish settlers: Ma’ale Adumin, to the east of Jerusalem; Gush Etzion, to the south of Jerusalem along the road that leads to Hebron; and Ariel, further to the north. The remaining settlers, around 150,000 in number, would abandon the areas where they are established, which would pass to the new Palestinian state.

One of IsraeStrella missiles have the ability to shoot down aircraft from a distance of two miles, using a sensing device that detects the heat given off by a jet plane. A Strella missile fired by Muslim terrorists narrowly missed shooting down an El Al civilian flight over Kenya in 2002.l's most highly regarded military commentators, Zeev Shiff, said in an article published a few months ago in Haaretz that use of a missile against a civilian plane flying over Israel would have the effect of ending international civilian aviation into and out of the country, even if the missile would miss its target. No foreign airline would take the risk of flying over Israel if there were a perceived threat of a missile strike, Shiff wrote.

the palislimes are going to lose control of their state before they ever have a chance to blow it up.

Hey Saint of All that is Flat!

MM, if you are going to have a meltdown, go the correct direction. I can say this because I just had one. For me, it was giving up on the potential of true information available by internet to convert bloodthirsty muslims into rational beings. After four years of trying with a good candidate, I've given up.

Just tell me, how can "we need TONS more blood to make the point that American intervention is a good thing" be a right direction?

It's not that good things don't cost (this is the nature of a noble sacrifice). It's that the price you speak of does not produce the goal you are aiming for.

Heyya Nam Grunt!
HNY to you and yours...
Loiusville just got another penalty!

sgt. tom,

Don't mind Maines Michael, yeah the one over there in the corner slobbering all over himself, and trying to find his limbs. POS!

#204 Sanctimonious drunk gimp:
"Nice case of BDS you got there. You and MM make a great couple. Perhaps you should consider dating?"

Sorry asshole, I'm not suffering from BDS.
I voted for the hypocritical prick, and I'd do so again considering the alternative.
However, I refuse to be a BASTARD (Bush Apologist Syndrome Tard) like you.

You have a problem with me criticizing Wahhabi and Sleezza's lip service to Islam ?
Too freaking bad.

I'll consider dating MM as soon as you pull your dome out of Wahhabi's sphincter.

#236 sgt tom

My daughter re-upped. And got promoted...
she'll be headed to the 101st pretty soon.

Outstanding! Pass on my congratulations!

Havin' a great holiday season?

Other than my knee, it's great!

Happy New Year to you and yours!

Don't mind Maines Michael, yeah the one over there in the corner slobbering all over himself, and trying to find his limbs.

I just figured that was an alternative Nordrog personality.

And my mother went all BDS over the holidays, kind of sad to see...
my brother and I just grimace and go on.

#242 sgt tom,

I'm watching the same game my bud. ;-)

And if we cut off aid, their own defense industry is free and happy to sell to the Chinese and NorKs. So we counsel, we cajole, but we really don't boss them too much. And we're on better terms with their military than we are with the Fwench.

It all boils down to this: The US must be concerned with the security of the whole region, indeed--the whole darn world. Israel's concern is Israel. Her security, her place in the world, her survival. I don't blame them a bit, either. But when looking at what the US wants and does and what Israel wants and does, you have to keep that difference in mind.

It is kind of like having your own kid in your classroom...you are concerned with the progress and safety of all the students, but your own kid? You're naturally much more concerned with him at the most fundamental level.

So thats where our billions went. Give them money and it gets spent on armaments. But the West is saturated with PC-weeny moonbats who see a worthy cause in Palestinians, rather than worthless homicidal maniacs with a penchant for slipping on the explosive vests (strange how their leaders don't do it somehow).

244 Muck

Now why do you go do that?

# 229 St. Pancake

Dubai is the penninsula's answer to New York city - hectic, expensive and getting to be not very liveable unless you've got big bucks. Abu Dhabi is more laid back, but not as nice as Oman. Bahrain is the old commercial hub, but it's sorta going downhill. Kuwait is the f**king pits, although very supportive of Americans (gee - wonder why ?). I spent over 5 years in Qatar, but people who definitely should know tell me I wouldn't even recognize it now, so I'll have to pass judgement there. I have never had the displeasure of being in The Magic Kingdom, and am quite willing to keep it that way. Ditto Yemen.

#244 Muck DeFuslims

Sorry asshole, I'm not suffering from BDS.
I voted for the hypocritical prick, and I'd do so again considering the alternative.

No, no, now why would I think you have BDS?

I'll consider dating MM as soon as you pull your dome out of Wahhabi's sphincter.

Nope, no BDS there.

Must have been my mistake.

Loon.

#246 sgt tom,

We all have our weights to carry, see where reaganite is still trying to capture his youth and has a bad wheel, LOL. he will see our way one day but he's good ain't he?

244 m de f

#204 Sanctimonious drunk gimp:

I hope you were at the position of a rigid parade rest when you opened your pie-hole!

Outstanding! Pass on my congratulations!

It's hard to contain my pride... when I spoke with her on Christmas (she's still in Germany) she got upset 'cause I was talking "shop"!
:)

besides, we don't need to worry about violence from Gaza. All births have a little blood. REJOICE!

/media delusion off

“Hamas should be given the chance to become a democratic movement.”

We did that...and they tore down and destroyed the green houses that would make Gaza able to support human life. They have attacked, killed, maimed and rioted...yes, yes, WaPo, let's GIVE THEM A CHANCE to become democratic. LOLOL.

If it acts like an Islamoterrorist, and attacks like an Islamoterrorist and engages in "democracy" like an Islamoterrorist and hates Israel like an Islamoterrorist...it 'aint gonna "become a democratic movement." And hell hasn't frozen over yet.

#254 sgt tom

she got upset 'cause I was talking "shop"!

LOL!

wooohooo!
now it's up to louisville to try to answer with a score!

(i dunno, i kinda like va tech... anyone that would name their team "hokies" deserves a break, doncha think?)

I understand Maine's Michael to a point. I'm not going to call him a troll or anything else, because I remember when he used to post good stuff.

Again, I'm not thrilled with everything Bush has done, although in the last few weeks I see signs we are getting First Term George W. Bush back, which is encouraging.

And, in the spirit of First Term George W Bush, I don't think he wants to just throw Israel under the bus, and I have to consider that he has to keep the Arab world semi-happy if he expects to get any cooperation if we do attempt to a military solution to the Iranian problem.

But Maine's Michael- I remember when you were funny. If you only show up to bash Bush, people won't remember anything else about you than that you show up to bash Bush.

#211 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades 1/2/2006 12:28PM PST

I have some sympathy to Maine's Michael as far as it appears State doesn't quite seem to get the big picture (being charitable), however, it seems, especially recently, that Prime Minister Sharon is offering little resistance to what State has been proposing.

And what does that prove? As Michael Savage has suggested on his radio show, Sharon will apparently do ANYTHING (include, apparently, getting chummy with Abu Mazen and the US State Dept) if he thinks it will help him stay in power.

In other words, perhpas Sharon is to Israel what, say, Jimmy Carter was to the US when he was in office: gave away the Panama Canal; abandoned Taiwan; allowed the Islamofascists to replace the Shah in Iran; did virtually nothing when Cuba sent troops to Angola.

I think maine's michael is largely right on on this issue. What's the point in making excuses for the vile, Arab-loving, Israel-hating, ever-ready-to-compromise-with-America's-enemies US State Dept?

Condi Rice has been rubbing Israel's nose in Pali doo-doo since she replaced Colin Powell.

May I submit that the lady simply doesn't GET it regarding Israel's situation -- or, if she does, she is simply (and inexplicably) helping the wrong side in that critical corner of the world?

The Pali terrorists are the enemy, Period -- every bit as much as is al-Qaeda in Iraq. So, why are we requiring Israel to deal with them?

Car Swarm in Gaza

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

"The Pali terrorists are the enemy, Period -- every bit as much as is al-Qaeda in Iraq. So, why are we requiring Israel to deal with them? "

Ummm...maybe they know something we don't know?

touchdown va tech!
wooohooo!

like the military, state is an arm of foreign policy. sometimes you have to have a carrot to go with the stick. it shouldn't be hard to figure out which one is the stick, right?

Happy New Year fellow lizards! Wish you all could have been here in northeast DC when the ball dropped to hear the gunfire from all over the city. Kind of a tradition here... our public housing residents fire guns into the air on the fourth of July and New Year. Fortunately, none of the residents in the project that I am the resident officer in did so... or at least they went a few blocks away.

#261 amir,

See! I knew this was going to be a good day.

#251 mike c.

my first-hand knowledge of yemen is limited to having to sit behind 5 yemenese soldiers on a klm flight from amsterdam to the u.s. there was only myself and a german chick in the row behind them. as soon as we took our seats the doors were closed and this german and i excitedly congratulated each other on having 3 empty seats between us on a full plane - - UNTIL the stench of the soldiers began wafting back towards us... i'm not sure what the randcid, gagging odor was exactly, but if i ever smell that smell again i'll know there are yemenese nearby. it literally made my eyes water and the german chick (who was incredibly cute) found the only other available seat after takeoff. i spent most of the flight walking around. the flight attendants sympathized with my plight and let me eat with them in the galley.

i can't possibly imagine what living there must be like.

Moreover, Israel's problems with the smuggling of weapons into Gaza via the Pali border with Egypt, causes me to think of our need to control our own borders -- and soon!

Here is a link to a post on that critical issue.

Resolved: Mexico Is a Cesspool – Part 2

Incidentally, it was none other than Condi Rice and her US State Dept buddies who pressured Israel in GIVING UP control of Gaza'a border with Egypt and handing it over to the Pali Keystone Kops Kustoms Agency.

And Condi had the gall to call that change progress!

260 Gunjam

Because the US State Department, although it may be making mistakes, has job 1 of watching out for US foreign policy needs and issues.

Now, Prime Minister Sharon, the elected leader of Israel, should have, as his job #1, watching out for the best interests of Israel. If he chooses to behave in ways that would appear not to be in Israel's best interest, that is nobody's fault but his.

Way OT and way, way out there

The United Nations General Assembly will be debating the issue of establishing diplomatic relations with advanced Extraterrestrial Civilizations that may now be visiting Earth.

The UN, a day late and a dollar short. Don't they know that Bush has already built a base on the moon to wage intergalactic warfare against the aliens?

#269 Stringart,

No offense but you listen to alot of Coast to Coast AM don't you. ;-)

#266 kirche

Oh, that's so gross it's funny.

Europeans (despite their superiority in every other way /media off) have always had a hard time with body issues. But this reminds me of what happened at my high school with the German foreign exchange students. Several girls were irked that our boys were panting after the German girls, so someone organized a pool party. One look at those girls with armpit hair hanging to their waists and it was sooo finished.

#261 amir

It sure doesn't take 'em long, does it?

Stringart,

Their leader lives here, under DIA (death in Aurora) otherwise known as Denver Int'l Airport.

#250 Ed
Now why do you go do that?

It's really quite simple Ed.
The sanctimonious drunk gimp is quick to start screaming about BDS and being insulting and condescending to anyone that criticizes Bush or disagrees with him.
He's constantly on MM's case about being a broken record when all he's usually doing is derailing threads with his booze talk and other nonsense.

I refuse to be part of the Bush or Reaganite ass kissing brigade.
And if he gets out of line with me I'll return the animosity in spades.

Ed of many names, re: #259

How does one criticize Bush or the administration strategy without 1) getting called a bush basher, BDS, troll, moby, asswipe, anklebiter, and the multitudes of other names thrown about? and 2) What exactly is incorrect in MM's #135? Did he say anything that is erroneous? I'm being serious, not facetious at all.

I appreciate your calming words. I am glad you said them. I have read michael's posts, and when there are other serious posters, interested in discussion or debate, his posts are great, factual, with links backing his claims.

I am biased, I agree with his pov, and I don't think he deserves the flames he gets. Nor do the rest of us who agree with him.

#268 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades 1/2/2006 01:02PM PST

Because the US State Department, although it may be making mistakes, has job 1 of watching out for US foreign policy needs and issues.

I agree . . . And they DON'T. Again, why would anyone (you, for instance, perhaps) want to make excuses for the jihadist-appeasers at State?

You seem to mmake it sound like the folks at State are trying, but making mistakes.

No: In my view, they are totally wrong and screwing americ daily.

Helping those who hate us is insane. State is doing that by helping the Palis. Period.

Your point about Sharon is well taken, however.

#271 mung

yep, i worked in germany for 3 years... 2 in cologne and another year between stuttgart, reutlingen and esslingen.

there was no a/c but plenty of fans. so it could get pretty warm at work during the summer months. i found german hygiene similar to ours with the exception of less use of deodorant and wearing the same clothes for several days. it was "explained" to me once that sweating was natural. i encountered mild b.o. from time-to-time.

but thesed yemenese dudes seemed to have doused themselves in spoiled camel's milk with a hint of well-aged desert yak urine...

ed:
re: 259/275

Not saying you are doing any flaming, in case that didn't come out right in my 275.

#270 'Nam Grunt

Nope. Charles even ran a thread about the moon base.

Hellyer warned, “The United States military are preparing weapons which could be used against the aliens, and they could get us into an intergalactic war without us ever having any warning.” He stated, “The Bush administration has finally agreed to let the military build a forward base on the moon, which will put them in a better position to keep track of the goings and comings of the visitors from space, and to shoot at them, if they so decide.”