Amazing. Absolutely amazing.

Oh come on!

They're the exact same results!

(One is just heavily censored)

Have I mentioned you're a GOD, Charles?

How did you do that?

Notice that the first non "dot-cn" listed is "blogs.msdn.com"

msdn - Microsoft Developer Network

I tried to talk people out of "market economies always lead to freedom" during the 1990's. But, nooo. They're linked, but it's not one-to-one.

To be fair to the totalitarian, organ-selling, Taiwan-threatening Chinese, page five does include a couple tank pix.

Google.cn: The CNN Baghdad Bureau of Search Engines.

#5 Beagle

To be fair to the totalitarian, organ-selling, Taiwan-threatening Chinese, page five does include a couple tank pix.

Because they missed them. They'll always miss something, especially when geeks are trying in earnest to sneak things around them.

Baghdad Bob is working for Google now! BB is doing voice overs on their new travelog features, extorting the virtues of the highlighted tour!

#7 Powderfinger

They'll always miss something, especially when geeks are trying in earnest to sneak things around them.

Chairman Google misses nothing!

That's beautiful Charles.

Thank God for Firefox tabs. If you flick between both webpages, you've almost got another Throbbing Memo that even the lefties would be proud to send to their mates.

Even Google aren't fallible though: check Page 5.

It won't work anyway. They will get around it, and the US geeks will help them do it.

Geek Power!

#9 Beagle

That's the official story, but...

I really like the google tiananmenland. But where are Mickey and Goofy?

There is literally nothing to see here. Move along.

Can the Chinese people read your website?

Let's give communism another chance!

I wish people would be equally concerned about the transfer and sale of military applicable technology to China.

Remember on 9/11 there were spontaneous celebrations throughout China.

Is it just me? I pulled both those up, compared them, and saw no difference in the pictures. Bad link for the China site?

Collaborating Google bastards.

Slightly OT

On pjmedia (i think that's where i saw it) they have an article up about BB&T actually acting concienciously and deciding to deny loans to those that have KELOed the property for the loans. So, the so today's business ethics weather is partly cloudy in my opinion.

WTH? I just pulled them up on my pc since it has two screens and now I see what the big deal is. For some reason Safari was giving me the exact same page. Odd.

Is it just me? I pulled both those up, compared them, and saw no difference in the pictures. Bad link for the China site?

Could be.  For me:

US link = photos of man standing up to tanks in Tiananmen Square.

Communist China link = photos of people smiling and waving in Tiananmen Square.

Orwell lives.
 

Might be interesting to check back periodically and see if the "leaks" get sealed.

This could be a regular feature, btw. Just keep rubbing Google's face in before the thousands of LGF readers and refuse to let the thing blow over, all the while providing some amusingly Orwellian posts like this one.

Hey Google. Boo. Hiss.

Wow...
It works with terms like "falun gong" too

Google as Big Brother.

#18 AzIslamophobe

It's you (or cache or something), the difference is astounding.

#5 Beagle

Tank picture link

His blog. Not much on it, except for pictures of some local babes.

#21 AzIslamophobe~ oops, I should have refreshed before posting :)

Everybody go to the Chinese Google, and search on "google sucks".

Also, as horrible as this may seem, there is a certain amount of sanity (very small) to those searches. As people in the US, we're more likely to want to see the horrors of the massacre at tiennamen square, as it was a large historic event. The people of china, when they search for tiennamen square may not solely think of the masscre as the only thing that's happened there. Ok, now i still think google f***ed this one up bad. After all, there's not a single tank on that page, and i'm sure some percentage of the searchers care about the massacre, so overall google is messing up pretty badly.

priceless!

This isn't working for me. I try to go to [Link: www.google.cn...] (the China one) and it directs me straight to [Link: www.google.com...] Something Google is doing perhaps? Redirect all US traffic away from the Chinese site?

/Yes, of course I'm jumping to conclusions.

0 results for tiananmen massacre

Ok, I take everything back. Google is just helping push history under the rug. If you search tiannanmen massacre you don't get any results. That's just wrong.

Tanks, but no tanks.

Perhaps in the 21st century, Google now believes the Wall Street film villain Gordon Gekko was right and "greed is good." It is hard to come up with any other explanation given Google's flexible definition of "evil." But thousands of American and allied troops are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan to bring repressed peoples access to more democratic institutions just as they have died to protect American freedoms in many wars before. Isn't it time Americans and their elected representatives pay more attention to their own cherished freedoms? Aren't the giant keiretsu companies that control American media too willing to suspend those freedoms wherever they interfere with their pursuit of profit?

link

Okay, nevermind. Firefox went direct to regular Google. IE was able to go to the Chinese one.

Google; advocate of "The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind"

next, a series of Stalin-esque photos of people who did, but now don't, officially exist.

Say, not that I like him other than an actor, but hows about Chi-Googlin' "Richard Gere Tibet" and see what you get.

CC

#27 Ward Cleaver

Not much on it, except for pictures of some local babes.

They've upgraded from Chairman Mao burlap suits, big time. Clearly there is progress. Hopefully there will be sufficient progress to head off World War Taiwan.

Dare I suggest a throbbing bitmap of DEATH?

You know ... in the tradition of the The Smoking Memo

tanks

It's not like they don't know about it. Looks like a nice place. too bad they have that whole "crackdown" thing from their society hanging over their heads...

All is not lost (yet)

Oh, this is fun since most of the searches on the two I've done are quite different. It's things like this that make me damn proud and feel incredibly fortunate to be an American.

Poor China.

I would like to see what would happen if Google offered their old service -- where many links could not be followed because of government servers -- and this one, where almost every link will be valid. Would people use the more "convenient" service voluntarily. Maybe I don't want to know.

To see how banal totalitarianism is, here are the results when I added the word "massacre" to the search, and translated the results from Simplified Chinese to English using Babelfish:

Cannot find homepage which tallies with yours inquiry "tiananmen massacre". Suggested: Please inspect inputs the character word to be whether there is wrong. Please use in exchange other inquiry character word. Please change to the more common character word. Please reduce inquires the character word quantity. According to the local law laws and regulations and the policy, the part searches the result not to demonstrate.

Banal. And insidious.

#32 What type of computer are you running. My Mac with Safari wouldn't open up the China link but would go straight to the normal result page. Not a single problem on my PC.

I'm not sure when this happened (ok, so sometimes I'm not as observant as I should be) but my browser, Maxthon (installed as a favor to me by reaganite when he built my computer) has a "Search" function in it's tool bar which is of the drop down type - it starts with Google Search, but you can then drop down to Steady Search, Baidu Search (Chinese), new_news.com, MSM Search, Yahoo Search, software Search and can also ADD to the drop down list a whole bunch of other search engines.
I'm not sure if this is new or in response to the Google Support of Red China, but it's really cool and SOOO easy to use!
IE gives you Google. Period.
Anyone know if Firefox or Safari or anyother PC oriented Browser has the same functions?

#42 Mr. Beamish

Those links are less offensive than the links you get with the regular GQQGLE

Third one down...Hmmm

#15 Mr Beamish

The firewall will almost certainly cut it out. But Google.cn doesn't seem to(search term: lgf) - it still gives LGF the top ranking.

Hey what is that high pitched whine...oh Jheka, it's you!

OUCH! Saw your #363!

The People's Republic of China has now Censored___ Censored ___ Censored.

#42 Mr. Beamish

From your link:

"please more print and distribute and get blessing"

Nominated for rotating title!

Well, hey, "don't be evil".

/"information just wants to be free"

Amalie, a doc is needed very badly one thread down at #363. Jheka to be exact!

Where's a good link to info on what really happened there? All of that hasn't been revised out of the history books, has it?

jlfntx

Do we need to have Jheka committed?

#56 Amalie

It is too painful to repeat-a guy thing ya know!

So can we get some Communist China Fortune Cookies.. while on Google?

Are there two different versions?

falun gong China propoganda picsfalung gong unfiltered google.com pics

Let's not forget the Google Search on Failure

... that lists President Bush's biography.

What else is Google doing to us HERE in the USA?!?!

Last I heard, the google boys were billionaires! Also think I read they are dhimmi lib a-hole environmentalist, who own a jet!, I could be wrong. How do people such as these get such power and money? Hmm, maybe the libs aint so dumb after all!

54 jheka

No.. don't tell me..

:D

I think you can nicname Jheka...uniball!

jlfntx

I am in a very bad mood... I am not going to be nice tonight.

#56 Amalie - well, maybe committed - he dropped a 50 lb dumbell on one of his testicles.

#47 realwest

Download yourself a (totally free - no ads or anything) copy of Opera.

Best browser hands down.

For a more tech savy internet experience you can use the free VMWare Player and a free copy of Mozilla (Linux)Internet appliance.

When you close the VM Player it automatically resets back to the clean machine you started with. Very cool and very secure.

What gives Bubbalie?

two urls worth a thousand pictures... or something.

Facinating.

Google Images links to LGF on this page.

I am in a very bad mood... I am not going to be nice tonight.

And wouldja look at the time! Jeeze, I gotta go...

*runs out the door*

Not nice, am I supposed to be thankful that you would be nice?

Geez.

Me too, outta here.

Charles’ two links are a sad demonstration of the power totalitarian force on the internet. Hopefully some smart entrepreneur will find a way around this filter.

Hey use the Chinese Google link to search U.S. waepons systems, not many results, too much fun.

/freak out their censors/monitors

#57 jlfintx - I certainly understand why you're reluctant to discuss it with Amalie (even though she's a doctor - and an ER doctor to boot) but WTF,
JHEKA dropped it on HIS ball, not yours, so why is it so painful to repeat?
I can stand any amount of physical pain there is, long as it isn't mine!

;>p

JLF & Realwest

Must not be too bad if one can still post...

lol

JLFNTX

I wasn't fussing at you.. you are so sensitive...

Realwest

Man, be in a bad mood.. and :poof: they run for the hills...

#75 realwest
#76 Amalie
Should we be discussing Jheka's squashed ball without him here? ;-)

Amalie

Is this a girly kinda mood swing that is anti your normal Cheryl Tiegs girlycute wholesomeness

OR did someone trespass in your Bubbaloo land ?

This ought to cheer you up. The U.S. Army is Doing some work to reduce the invasion just south of you.

wee fury

I didn't start it... and it's time for drink.

# 79 w f

Not our fault he can't click to the latest thread!
:-)

Amalie
Just teasing.

#78

(voice calls back from over the hill)

run for your life!
flee!
flee!

#78 Amalie

Man, be in a bad mood.. and :poof: they run for the hills...

Seriously, what's the point in announcing it?

/Steelers in the Super Bowl, buck up

Havoc

One cannot be Pollyanna 24/7... it leads to Manslaughter.

Thanks for the link...

Amalie

Are you in a bad mood because of the hot tub comments the other night?

#46: Just regular cheap Dell PC.

I'd already gone on to other things, when a thought occurred to me and I had to come back.

This entire Google thing is the reason why authority of the internet should NEVER pass into UN hands. If this many places are willing to self-censor voluntarily, think of the sad state of affairs when they would be FORCED to!

#52 Killer Tomato

"please more print and distribute and get blessing"

Nominated for rotating title!

It already is one. (I knew I'd seen it somewhere!)

I guess there are two perspectives here. Inside the fishbowl, bulge-eyed and looking out. Or outside of the bowl, lookin' in at the millions of poor fishies.

Oh, jeez, are we discussing my ball again?

/Lance Armstrong

#87 DesertSage

Don't go there pal ... She's in a Manslaughter kinda mood, not Polly Anna tonight.

I've seen that look in a woman's eye before (right behind the iron sights)

Charles, there are similar results if you search for Falun Gong, the religion/group that is imprisoned by the Chinese government.

Google U.S.

censored Google China

Well, at least you can still read LGF in China.

Now that I'm aerodynamic, I'm gonna buy me a bike!

Night all, I am gonna go watch Cold Mountain!

#64 amalie

I'm going to tempt your wrath and inquire, so what has put you in this VERY bad mood? If it's none of my bidness, well ... I'll run away also.

#92 Havoc

Wow, where'd you get the pic of Amalie?

China has always had a closed society. In the new age of the internet (with Google pandering to certain restrictions from China) back doors abound. The savvy people of China will be able to find those doors and get whatever information they want.

OT

Late nite, and I'm semi-crocked and feelin' a little sentimental. Listening to The Ronette's Be My Baby. Man, that was slightly before my time, but that was music, baby!

I'm just about finished with Kang Chol-Hwak's riveting autobiography, The Aquariums of Pyongyang. Its about he and his family's ten years spent as 'guests' in North Korea's Yodok prison camp.

I have found it hard to fight back a certain sense of ennervation every time I crack the damn book open. Its a sad story that every freedom loving person should force their complacent friend(s) to read...also hold their breath until hollywood to makes it into a feature-length movie.

I realize that this is more or less an OT, but the norks got their inspiration from the same source as the chi-coms. From what I've observed (however casually), the same thing has had similar roots in every communist country.

Reading that book makes me wish somebody would slowly kill the remaining tyrant in the most humiliating manner possible.

BTW- As I understand it, Saddam Hussein was friends with both Father Tyrant and Baby Tyrant...not that that makes Hussein a bad person or anything. After all, Jimmuh Carter had only nice things to say about north korea's "beloved leader".

Ooops, I'm late for my self criticsm meeting...must go.

Try "Indian" in both.
[Link: images.google.com...]
[Link: images.google.cn...]

#98 DesertSage

I googled on "perky Contessa" Manslaughter Guns Gunnison Colorado Five Bull Elk

US google not Chinese

100 Cartman

I love that song.. and Ronnie Spector was adorable..

#47 realwest

Firefox is the same way. Add all the engines you want.

#94 Mike C.

Well, at least you can still read LGF in China.

And from Kuwait, Pakistan, etc., unless you were somehow cheating filters.

/I figured more than a few countries would ban LGF

#100 Cartman
First Elton John, now the Ronette's. You must be a little crocked.

Hey - the Chinese don't get a "I'm Feeling Lucky" button.

/Maybe because they aren't - Google screwed them.

#93 Cornholio

Thats changed some. I did that search this morning and got different results.

This morning the second half of the PRC-Google page had results similar to the top half of the regular result page.

Sheesh the Falun Gong have really become the Chinese boogieman.

Try clicking on those Falun Gong pictures. The webpages are all propaganda.

Google a slave to Wall Street's expectations? Do no evil = Do no earnings misses.

The left brain Google "Don't Be Evil" in action,

Stage 1;
Divide and undermine America by favoring lefist content that supports socialists and lunatics.

Stage 2;
Unite and support Communist China by protecting them from Freedom's tempations.

I've also got it under good word from an insider that Google has been oursourcing a significant portion of thier international web service technical and content jobs to Russia. Not sure what this signifies.

87 Desert Sage

No.. I am in a bad mood from the REAL WORLD.

Charles, you are brilliant for posting this.

This is simply evil - a subtle evil but there is really no other way to describe this Orwellian bullsh*t.

#102 visitorstay

Try "wanker". Total blackout. Looks like the Moaists fear Limey terms for self gratification.

Please, someone explain this: I'm seeing EXACTLY the same results under both links.

Exactly the same pictures. Exactly the same captions. Exactly the same number of results: 22,500.

So where's the beef?

#104 Amalie

My iTunes playlist just crossed over to When I Saw You. Once again, Ronnie at her finest. What a babe, with a one-of-a-kind voice!

What were the words from Bobby McGee song..

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose

Apparently this is the LLL Motto..

 #115

Cato the Elder  1/26/2006 09:42PM PST

Please, someone explain this: I'm seeing EXACTLY the same results under both links.

You are Chinese?

#112 Amalie

Don't let the REAL WORLD get you down...

Or, as Abner Doubleday used to say: Don't take the World Seriesly.

Maybe they can add an "I'm feeling counter-revolutionary" button.

The Google.cn home page has a revolutionary wig on one of the O's and then a music staff.
Why?

#115 Cato the Elder

Ahh so, you are in China comrade! Good to see you are here to fight for the proletariat!

/closes little red book

Cato, I see different pictures. Lots of tourist-related pics on the Chinese site.

Amalie, maybe I am Chinese! I never knew.

No, it's just weird. Both links give me the same result. I mean exactly. If I switch back and forth between them, there is not a pixel's worth of difference in them...

Desert Sage

It could be worse.. I could be a worker in a Communist Chinese Fortune Cookie Factory..

Which pictures are you getting, Cato?
Are they the stark remoinders of the sole citizen standing down the row of tanks ar are they the quaint, picturesque vacation snapshots of happy, smiling tourists?

I think you would be able to figure out which came from where if the difference availed itself.

112 Amalie

No.. I am in a bad mood from the REAL WORLD.

Obviously, you want to spill it so fire away, we're here for you.

/otherwise, drop it, you're in a bad mood, we get it

#91 Jheka - Well after all, you "brought it up" on the other thread; I was just trying to get you some free medical advice from an ER doc who's seen stranger injuries, I'm sure.

#115 Cato

Too much Sake? Ooopps...wrong national libation. ;-)

Cato

See Bob The Builder's Post..

LOL...

And my results are lots of tanks, too, not tourists.

I'm in Baltimore, connecting via Comcast.

Weird.

BRB ... have to go shave the cats.

Killian

Excccuuussseee me!

Killian

Oh and...

Bite me!

I've been playing around with Google U.S. vs. Communist Google.

Try these Image searches on your own!

CCCP

Mao

sex (Explicit content on the U.S. side - fair warning)

war

Uncle Sam (just disturbing difference)

Hitler (Photo #7 on Commie Google)

Chi-Google images for "democracy". There's a Cox & Forkum cartoon about Iran on the first page, along with the "got democracy?" poster.

So I wonder, do the contents of Google have to be fisked by Commie Officials before they can be added on the browser... or did the Chinese just send a list of what cannot be accessed?

And a cartoon by some idiot moonbat catoonist Madeleine Kane.

Using the Google.cn home page I was able to pull this up Massacre

Amalie

All of those factories are in CA...where mean Gov Arnold is exploiting them for his capitolistic ideals...

OK, even if I manually put in ".cn" in place of ".com", my browser instantly switches back to ".com" and shows me the regular results.

I can't view the ".cn" site.

Is Comcast a Chinese company?

Tibet invasion - Google

Tibet invasion - Google China

#124 Cato

No, it's just weird. Both links give me the same result. I mean exactly. If I switch back and forth between them, there is not a pixel's worth of difference in them...

See? That damn NSA surveillance has crossed the line! BushHitler wants to identify you as an insurgent and a dissenter! Run away to the dark side!

/sarc

#133 Amalie

Excccuuussseee me!

I'm in a bad mood.

I'm in a bad mood in the REAL world.

And?

/where's the biscuit?

Desert Sage

No kidding? Everything I buy these days comes from China...

As others have posted, I too am getting exatly the same page from both links. No difference whatsover. I'm sure I can imagine what the difference is though. For what it's worth, I'm getting images of tanks in the square for both links.

"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. "

#135 Cognito Primoris

Hitler

Yep on the regular google images the bush-hitler reference is almost halfway down on page two!

Cato The Elder will have to inform the Google comrades of this mistake. Bush-Hitler should be number one hit!

/Wipes spittle of rage from little red book

OK, jokes aside, anyone got an explanation for this phenom?

Killian

I'm in a bad mood.
I'm in a bad mood in the REAL world.

Wow.. I said it twice... this must mean the Earth is going to fall off its axis and fly off into the Universe...

Amalie

Yep, them Fortune Cookies are an American invention...started right here in CA...

#139 wee fury

Looks like an anarchist site.

Anybody need a big brother by the name of Google? To tell the truth, I didn't think so.

Cato

I get two different scenarios.. but I am using Safari on a Mac..

So...where's all the nubile young cheongsam-clad babes at? Do they not exist anymore either? You suck, Google

146 Wideawake

Are you on Comcast too?

#146 WideAwake

That's wierd...I'm getting two different links..plain as day...hmmm..

I'm using IE on a Windows notebook connecting via Comcast, a cable company in Baltimore.

Damn, now I'm in a bad mood! I wanna see the Chi-Com shiite!

WaaAAAHHH! ! ! !

Hi Amalie! How you doin', sweetie?

I am very tired and must sleep.

#152 Ward Cleaver
I was surprised that it was allowed on the Google.cn site.

'Night everyone.

Let's see what else we can come up with.

Search for "America":
China Version:
Just Maps

Standard Version: Anit Bush and Pro Socialist pictures
Lefist tainted; Notice Chavez and Hitler among Bush.

Search for "Bush":

China:Portrayed Positive with Pro China Slant

Standard Ver: Shows leftist negative tilt. No complimentary pictures

Seacrh For "Capitalism"

China:Neutral or Non Existant. Not aggressively anti Captitalistic

Standard Ver:Completey negative against capitalims. Pro Socialist and communist views dominate search

I'm sure we can find alot more.

What does this tell me. China is more or less neutral or omitting. While Google is generaly Hostile towards these words. China's site seems more reasonable and less biased againts the USA than Google's own site.

Ward Cleaver

Hi Ward..

I was in a bad mood but after coming on LGF I feel a hundred times better.

/and a shot of Southern Comfort

Bye Ward!

Tomorrow is Friday!

/okay, today

Does this mean Google thinks I'm not politically mature enough to see pictures of smiling tourists?

I'm going to sue.

Cato

You must be caught in the Microsoft web of intrigue...

# 106 Killian Bundy

No, I don't know how to cheat those filters. People tried to advise me before I wnt to Kuwait, but it proved unnecessary. Just in The Magic Kingdom, I guess. Well, probably Iran, too.

Night, Amalie!

149 Cato the Elder - Yeah either Google or the Red Chinese monitor this sight and changed the photos to all tourity crap. When I saw them, the first set were the real deal, guy standing up to tank, protests etc.
Remeber all those web crawlers that Charles had running all over the place? That or Google relized their mistake (and since they corrected it so fast they must be monitoring us also).
There's one for you conspiracy buffs!

Cato
I know nothing about computers. But, I was able to get to Google.cn (home page) by typing that into my search engine. Brought the CN home page up for me.

Okay...I am NOT supporting China in any way, but I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Notice all the images that come up - regardless of what search term you put in - it only returns things in the .cn domain. Clearly, this shows Chinese government won't tolerate Tiananmen massacre or Falun Gong pix on Chinese servers. I'll have to do more work to find out whether Google added additional filtering than restricting Chinese language results on their Chinese pages.

Once again, I'm NOT making any excuses for Google or China.

#150 Amalie

Wow.. I said it twice... this must mean the Earth is going to fall off its axis and fly off into the Universe...

Well, you know, with all due respect, most people don't wade into a thread and assert, first post, that they're in a bad mood, watch out!

Obviously, somethigs bugging you and if you didn't want people to wonder, you shouldn't have mentioned it.

/nemesis/friend

#158 Cato
Try this one, Tiananmen.

Blade Runner, here we come..

FWIW -I'm still getting two different sets of images from Charles link: the top one is with the tanks, demonstrations etc, the second is for tourists.
Shit, there goes another conspiracy theory!

G'nite youse'all.

172 Killian

Okay, I think I understand where you are coming from. It's kind of like a bar where you walk in and say, this day sucked, and people go.. pull up a chair and grab a drink.

You don't have to say anything.. you just need to unwind..

/Does that help?

#162 Egfrow

What does this tell me. China is more or less neutral or omitting. While Google is generaly Hostile towards these words. China's site seems more reasonable and less biased againts the USA than Google's own site.

I was doing some compairing myself and got the same impression.

Things that make you go: Hmmm...

Another example:

Try Tiananmen in Google.com

[Link: images.google.com...]

Tiananmen in Google.co.uk

[Link: images.google.co.uk...]

The search results are definitely different, and I am certain they don't censor pix in the UK...yet.

Night Realwest!

#172 Killian Bundy - with all due respect to you, my friend, Amalie's an ER doc and had a bad day. Use some imagination. The fact that she said it, once or twice doesn't necessarily mean she wants to talk about so PLEASE let it go.

#174 Amalie

Blade Runner, here we come..

I haven't seen that movie in years. I should rent it this weekend. Thanks for the prompt.

#178 Robert O.

The search results are definitely different, and I am certain they don't censor pix in the UK...yet.

No, I think they censor them HERE!

A search on standard google for the Word "Evil"

Standard Version
Shows in order
George W Bush, Santa Clause, Bert and Osama, Bill Gates

China
China Version of "Evil" shows a few movies, games, and Folun Gong.

Google show that they are biased againsts. Conservatives, Relgion, and Capitalists in that order.

China is only showing video games and movies. Pluse Falun Gong.

I'm building a Throbbing Google right now. Patience, please, as it's the first time I've ever built an ani-gif.

#176 Amalie

Okay, I think I understand where you are coming from. It's kind of like a bar where you walk in and say, this day sucked, and people go.. pull up a chair and grab a drink.

You don't have to say anything.. you just need to unwind..

/Does that help?

Not in the bars I've been to.

/once you bring it up, you need to tell why your day sucked, liquor makes it easier

So a young man comes to my door tonight.
He was from Santa Monica College and he was representing CaliforniaPeaceAction.org.
He brought flyers with him and he wanted me to sign a petition. Same old bullshit: Bush is the Devil, his administration is a Satanic cult, Republicans are all evil, Blah..Blah..Blah...

I never raised my voice or called him names or anything insulting, I just used logic and facts to rebut all of his prepared propaganda.

By the time he left, he was muttering: Racist, bigot, homophobe, sexist, Blah..Blah..Blah...

The encounter made my evening :~)

Okay! Enough about me... back to the Chinese... !

Hello PST Lizards,

How many Chinese bag men can you fit in one of these?

Google co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page have settled on a Boeing 767 as their personal jet.

What's good for Google is good for the Earth.

Lowandslow, that totally worked! Now I'm seeing the tourists!

Woo-hoo, I thought I'd been kicked off the LGF elite list or something...

;^)

So has Google changed it's motto from "don't be evil" to this?

Is this the same internet that Kofi Anan, Hugo Chavez and Robert Mugabe want control of? I think Google is just showing us a free preview of what that would be like...

Ok now I'm compairing google UK to google com...

This is starting to make me paranoid

/Where is my tinfiol hat...I know I had it here...somewhere!

181 ferris

The reason why I thought of Blade Runner was the fact that people said in the near future most of us would be Asian.. but then the Mexicans showed up...

So I am not sure anymore what we will all end up being.. Asian-Mexican?

/Blade Runner is one my favorite SF movies.. haven't seen in years either..

185 Killian

once you bring it up, you need to tell why your day sucked, liquor makes it easier

I don't know about that.. the more I drink the sillier I get and the harder it is to remember how to spell something or type it.

#93 Cornholio - Very nice pick up on that! Excellent work!

#184 gus3

I'm building a Throbbing Google right now. Patience, please, as it's the first time I've ever built an ani-gif.

I can't wait to see it!

When you get done point Charles to it. I'll bet top of the thread for sure!

So do a good job!

Well Al Gore invented the net so maybe Al can invent a new, better version...

/lol

#192 Amalie

So I am not sure anymore what we will all end up being.. Asian-Mexican?

Those are two of my favorite food groups (not sure how they work as a fusion dish), so as an Irish/German guy, I can live with that.

#192 Amalie

So I am not sure anymore what we will all end up being.. Asian-Mexican?

Filipino?

I am trying to get Google.cn to search over a wider domain than just .cn to see what comes up. I am playing with the Preferences and Advanced Image Options but no luck.

If Google.cn only searches over .cn and nothing else, then I suppose it "makes sense". What is more interesting is whether the Chinese can still read normal Google.com typing the URL into the address bar.

What about in Hong Kong? Are they on the Chinese Google?

This blog continues to be superior.

Amazingly different Google results in China.

But in a weird way, not much different than what U.S. MSM leaves out or puts in when they want a certain result.

(My son was in Beijing for 12 days in December on a college sponsored trip. He had an amazing time. It is very capitalistic. He toured factories and hotels. At night, they participated in the very active nightlife at clubs. At one club, the band was playing jazz and it happened to be "Watermelon Man" and my son got up on stage and borrowed a sax and played with them and they loved it. And he loved it. One small dim sum restaurant was cold inside and the 6 students dining were invited into the home portion of the restaurant by the owner where he served them an obviously precious bottle of brandy he took down from a shelf in his one room living quarters. All in all, my son said it was an amazing experience and to him, it was all open and free.)

#200

Good question. Hong kong web sites end with .com.hk. There is indeed a Hong Kong Google, and it is apparently uncensored:

[Link: images.google.com.hk...]

I can see it now, Iranian Google in Farsi.

Because Sergey and Larry maintain that "information just wants to be free".

/and the NSA loves every second of it

#199 Robert O.

Mainland China routs all internet traffic through their own DNS. They filter all of the traffic through a proxy so all browsing is censored.

Chinese can only access unfiltered internet by dialing out to neighboring countries.

I could google some links, but you probably want to do that yourself.

# 199 Robert D.

No, they can't - I just tried it.

I think I know how it works now. If you search on most Google language sites, say US Google, or German Google, or French Google, it basically searches over everything - including things outside .de or .fr domains for example. In Google China however, it restricts results ending in .cn. This actually makes sense, because all the Chinese censors need to do then is to make sure none of their servers contain "un-PC" images and they are fine. They don't need to ask Google to do anything fancy other than restrict the domain of the results.

I still haven't figured out why UK Google is different though.

#202 Robert O.

You're doing some good work here. I don't know what you're doin, but you're doin it well.

Now try Korea...North and South...

Speaking of Al "Howler" Gore, now he's attacking Canadians ... I can't believe that he was thisclose to the White House.

Mike C.

Are you in China?

As far as bypassing the Chinese censors -- didn't I already come up with a way to bypass the Saudi censors when LGF was banned there? The same thing should work for China. I forget the exact technique, but it involved translation sites, so that you purposely go to a translation site (which I think aren't banned) and translate a foreign language site back into your own language -- which gives you the content of the page without having to actually visit the banned URL.

For example, look at this:

LGF in Chinese

(Hope it works.)

Thus, if you were in China, and wanted to search Google but didn't know any other language but Chinese, yet you needed to bypass the Chinese version of Google, you could go to

this WordLingo page

then select "from Dutch" and "to Chinese Simplified" and paste in the URL for

Dutch Google Advanced Image Search

and you end up with

a Google image search page in Chinese that is NOT censored

since it's actually the Dutch search page, which is OK. (Hmmm, that last translated page link doesn't work when it's pasted in, but if you follow the steps you'll get the page yourself).

This works for visiting banned sites (and seeing them in your native language), but I'm not so sure that a Google search on the translated page will work. Also, WordLingo may not have the right set-up for this, but there are dozens of other translation sites and I've successfully tried it in the past -- I just can't remember which sites I used.

Sorry if I'm being naive and there's some obvious reason this won't work -- but Chinese computer dudes are smart as hell and I'm sure they'll find a way around the ban one way or the other.

I've blogged this. Friggin' amazing.

208 Jheka

You were reading my mind.. I was just thinking that I still cannot believe he was once a heartbeat away from the Oval Office...

For 8 long years..

# 198 D S

Someone posted here a while ago some anthopologist saying that the end result of race-mixing is we would all wind up looking Polynesian ...

/which is, of course, way cool as most Polynesian women are smokin' hot!
:-)

#201 kay1212

Yes, capitalism is it. They are communist light.

/Up again. Word of warning to parents. Kids getting backpacks out of the trunk that weigh more than 40 lbs. (the backpack) can end up on their back with backpack on top of child. Makes for a very sore butt.

//glad I didn't have twins...

Now I am in the mood for an eggroll...

#206 Robert O.

I still haven't figured out why UK Google is different though.

That's a very legitimate concern that needs answering. How does google slant it's content arount the rest of the world?

More comparisons need to be made in different areas such as news, images, and web.

How long before the Chinese pressure google to censor their US results as well? Now THAT would be Orwellian. Better get a screen grab of the US search result before it's too late.

So who's the enemy here? Google or China? Google is trying to make a buck, correct? I don't see the problem.

I can't wait for the Hamas version of Google.

Smiling splodeydopes and Mahomet without the tooth decay!

Just for fun, comparison between Google search results in different countries:

Tiananmen example again:

(French) [Link: images.google.fr...]

(German) [Link: images.google.de...]

(Italian) [Link: images.google.it...]

(Japanese) [Link: images.google.co.jp...]

(Korean) [Link: images.google.co.kr...]

(Canadian) [Link: images.google.ca...]

(Australian) [Link: images.google.com.au...]

There are obviously many other possibilities, but they all show the same results. Only Google.cn restricts the search domain.

What about President Ahmacrazyloon in Iran.. has he started a small roundtable discussion on controlling the "world" internet?

# 209 Robert O.

In Beijing.

#215 Amalie

Now I am in the mood for an eggroll...

Well, that's better than a "Bad Mood"...

#210 zombie

I think that because the PRC use a Proxy, it will still prevent the banned content.

Although like any security measure, it only prevents the casual user. A sophisticated computer user will usually find a way passed the filter.

But that's the point, the vast majority of internet users are casual users with very limited knowlege of the technology behind it.

#220 Robert O.

They all look the same (except the French one...all the cars in the backround were on fire)

Korea was South huh?
I guess North Korea doesn't have internet?

Sorry if I'm being naive and there's some obvious reason this won't work -- but Chinese computer dudes are smart as hell and I'm sure they'll find a way around the ban one way or the other.

People adapt. When a government censors something, people are going to find clever ways to get around it. Look at Christianity in China. There are millions of house churches. They can beat up a Christian here and there to make an "example", what are they going to do about the other tens of millions?

#201 kay1212

That's very cool that he was well recieved and generally found Bejing very hospitable.

Keep in mind that this city is a show piece and an international business hub. China is massive and the majority of the populations reside nowhere near Hong Kong or Bejing. There are cities without names or address. I'm sure he would not be so well recieved there.

Bejing is a Global Dog and Pony show for that nation. Just trying to give you another perspective.

OK, let's see if this works:

Google search page, in Chinese, but NOT the official Chinese Google search page.

And if you do (uncensored) searches, you get uncensored results back in Chinese! But you never actually visit any banned Google URL!

(At least I do. Hope it works for others.)

Mike C.

Can you elaborate a little bit more? So you type "[Link: www.google.com"...] or "[Link: images.google.com"...] and it automatically re-directs you to Chinese Google?

OK guys, here it is, another throbbing image. However, where Charles' original throbber was to show similarity, this one is to show difference.

Google's Shame.

Also, are there uber-geeks here who knows the IP address of Google servers? I wonder what happens if you try and type the [Link: www.xxx.yyy.zzz...] in China instead of the URL. Do the Chinese government filter at the DNS level or what? Intersting to know...

230 gus3

Wow... Awesome!

Gus3, wow! Great work. Mazel tov.

gus3 that is a thing of beauty!

Come on Zombie, lobby for Charles to put that up top!

Okay, it seems that we need some Lizards on the inside.

/volunteers?

# 229 Robert O.

I just pull my regular google.com off the favorites list and it takes you to .cn. Same thing happens if you type it in manually.

#121 wee fury 1/26/2006 09:46PM PST

“The Google.cn home page has a revolutionary wig on one of the O's and then a music staff.
Why?”

Mozart’s birthday. Jan 27, 1756

#230 gus3

Excellent!

#231 Robert O.:

Check here.

Here's a shocker: "google.cn" is in California!

 #235

Killian Bundy  1/26/2006 10:43PM PST

Okay, it seems that we need some Lizards on the inside.

that's an excellent idea.

#231 Robert O.

Do the Chinese government filter at the DNS level or what? Intersting to know...

Got it in one!

PRC Proxy servers filter all ip numbers and DNS aliases.

Thats why Zombies search wouldn't work were he actually in the PRC.

Thanks Gus!

Mike C., try type in this IP address for Google in California: 66.102.7.162

What do you come up with?

...But the translation page idea might work just fine...

Oops! I mean this IP: 66.102.9.147

#241 BobTheBuilder

PRC Proxy servers filter all ip numbers and DNS aliases.

Thats why Zombies search wouldn't work were he actually in the PRC.

But check out my search link in comment #228: here it is again. You can do searches in Chinese and get any page on the net displayed in Chinese but you never actually go to the Google URL. (Try it!) I'm pretty much a dumbo about computers, so tech-heads tell me: why would this not be a viable workaround?

Killian Bundy:

Okay, it seems that we need some Lizards on the inside.

...scene shamelessly ripped off from a cartoon called Terrible Thunderlizards:

Google#1: Uh, fellas? Does it seem strange that the new guy never takes his hat off?
*Lizard wearing hat with camera attached waves*
Google#2: Nope.
Google#3: Uh-uh.
Google#1: Oh, then it must be me. Go Fish.

Hey! I found a way to defeat Chinese filters searching for Dalai Lama pix. Don't type in Dalai Lama - type in his real name Tenzin Gyatzo

[Link: images.google.cn...]

#235 Killian

Okay, it seems that we need some Lizards on the inside.

I could bullshit my way through a couple interveiws but if they see me type the jig would be up.

#239 gus3

Here's a shocker: "google.cn" is in California!

Not really a surprise; that's Google Inc's headquarters.

#245 zombie

Yea that might just do the trick. (243)

Information wants to be free don't it?

LOL! And this one - don't type in Tiananmen, type in something like "June 4 1989"

[Link: images.google.cn...]

It seems if you type in a sensitive search term, Google picks it up and restricts results to .cn sites. If you type in something more obscure, it gives you the goodies!

This is EXACTLY what Google does to "news" and search sources in general right here in the good ol' USA.

Google is as hopelessly left as the NYT. And they both try to present their selective propaganda as if it is the real world.

It's especially sad that Google is the most popular search engine in the world, and their search hits are purposely tilted by their leftist editors.

That's not fair.

It's not fair when you go to the NYT seeking reliable news, and it's not fair when you go to Google expecting reliable search. In both cases, the publishers (NYT and Google) are doing their best to tilt the info to the left.

It's not honest, either.

Okay, I've pissed off enough Asian hegemons for the day.

So, how about those... uh... Ravens?

Zombie,
The dependancy is that the translation page must be allowed through the proxy, and that the translation page does not participate in the filtering. (as google is doing)

# 231 Robert O.
# 239 gus3

Well I'll be damned - using the numerical address for regular google from here takes you right to the regular google site. That's a rather gaping hole in censorship, eh ?

September 11

Google USA

Google China

Erased! Why would China try to hide this date?

China to 'strike hard' against rising unrest

/there's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear . . .

#156 Amalie
#157 DesertSage

I am still getting the exact same image of the Tanks rolling through the Square.

I am on a Mac using Safari. Connection is through Time Warner Cable.

Why should we expect Google to have higher standards than it does now?

/Haven't reached the top of gutter

#257 Killian Bundy

China says that its biggest terrorist threat comes from Xinjiang, the far western region dominated by the largely Muslim Uighur people ...

Seems pretty clear to me.

258 Wideawake

The other guy who has the same problem as you has IE.. Microsoft on Comcast..

Makes me wonder about Time Warner and Comcast?

# 242 Robert O.

See my post just above, but I used 66.102.9.104

Mike C.

Another question, what kind of link connection are you using? Are you at your home, or at a hotel, or an internet cafe, or a university, or what? I wonder if it makes any difference... e.g. If you are in a fancy tourist hotel, they probably won't want you to see the censorship.

Was Bill Murray ever on SNL? Did he play... Mr. Lubner.. the man without a spine?

Google... all that money and such a couple of twits. What's ironic is that they claim they want to do good things to change the world. Well you can start by not giving in to state sponsored censorship you fucks! And for a communist country! Complete wankers!

#261 Amalie

Comcast uses proxy servers. They are supposed to be transparant, but you might be experiencing a misguided effort to auto correct what the proxy sees as a mistyped url.

/layers! Like an onion!

#255 Mike C.:

No, part of the newer HTTP protocol is to include a "Host:" header line, to indicate precisely which domain name you are accessing. That way, you can host multiple domains on a single server/IP address, at a minimal cost of network traffic.

#252 Dr_Applebreath

Google is as hopelessly left as the NYT. And they both try to present their selective propaganda as if it is the real world.

Are you sure? It could be that we only see things through our Rovian glasses, everyone know Katie Couric is nothing but a right wing shrill.

#256

That is fascinating.

Hey, I discovered one more thing. Try type Israel into Google images

Chinese Version

US Version

#261 Amalie

Am I the only one here on Time Warner Cable? I didn't read all the posts yet...

Wide Awake

I don't know.. I would think there might be others using TIme Warner...

I am in Colorado.. in the mountains.. I have a little broadband company..

Wide Awake
Try my link at #173. I worked for others.

bob the builder

No, I am cool.. so far two others have problems.. one on Comcast, the other uses Time-Warner..

US Version

Yes fascinating.

Addendum to my #267:

If you use a numeric address, rather than a hostname, then the web server will serve from a default domain, in Mike C.'s case (comment #255) google.com.

I'd just like to throw in some RoP vs. China comparissons that we had been talking about earlier on another thread.

Censorship is censorship and it cann happen all over the place. Germany tried to ban the Satanic Verses. The UK did ban Clockwork Orange.

Basically you get these things in all countries apart from the US to one degree or another. Obviously, its pretty bad in China.

Also, the Chinese want to be a superpower, therefore they are undermining efforts to bring Iran in line, hoping this will weaken the US -- and I think they are probably right.

But that does not mean that the Chinese have groups of people spread around the world trying to take over the place and kill infidels. In fact, wherever they've immigrated to, they tend to make pretty decent, hard working and law abiding neighbors.

I do not knwo what might happen in a 100 or so years. But what I do know is that as far as my lifetime is concerned, RoP is the biggest threat of all -- and growing by the day.

#273 Amalie
Time Warner = Comcast

Amalie

This is curious indeed...

I would love to believe that Time Warner or Google or China has somehow caused this to happen but then I have been having trouble connecting to my scanner all night! And it's right here on my desk without any commies hiding behind it! Go figure...

On the other hand, there are some terms the Chinese are comfortable with. For example, try a search for "death to america" in Google Images. Chinese Google and US Google give the same results... :-)

well, guess I was wrong about Google.

Thought they were better than that.

-ron

#278 WideAwake

Damn that KKKarl Rove!

/Tightens tinfiol hat

#276 rednaxela:

As for their respective practices, I can't compare/contrast China and RoP. But in their cores, the only real difference between them is that the RoP has Allah, and China has the state. Those are their gods, and woe to any member who says otherwise.