European Wimps.

What the hell took them so long?

Uncle! UNCLE!

Except Christianity. Let the dung fly. - EU

“We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right.”

That is really frightening.

Some day our grandchildren will learn about the coming world war in history class, and they will be dumbfounded: they went to war over cartoons?

So basically,

"We will gladly self-regulate ourselves whenever you tell us to."

WTF?

Check the top AP story:

Hezbollah Leader to Bush: 'Shut Up'

Them's fightin' words!

No surprises here. EUnuchs, bloody cowards. Folks, make your travel plans now to see the great churches & museums of Europe before they're looted by Roper hordes.

Big mistake. It’s not going to make the rioting/looting/killing stop.

“The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,” he told the newspaper. “We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right.”

Men to the left, women and children to the right, and don't forget your soap....

Flemming Rose, Editor of the Danish Jyllands-Posten newspaper, said yesterday:

This is exactly what this debate is about, does a religion have the right to impose its religious taboos, its religious rules on to the public domain? Should I as a non-Muslim submit myself to their taboos in the public domain?

I mean, I respect Islam. When I go to a mosque, I do behave in accordance with all their rules. I do not draw a cartoon of the prophet in a mosque. If I bring my daughter, she will be dressed in accordance with Islamic rules.

But I do think when they ask me to submit myself to their rules outside the mosque, they're not asking my respect. They are asking my submission.

Even though I do recognize that a lot of Muslims have been offended by these cartoons, and I apologize for that, I'm really sorry if people have been offended. That was not my intention. My focus was on the question of self censorship.

[Link: transcripts.cnn.com...]

Fraggin' Gutless, soft bellied, warbling twits.

Talk about LOSERS with a capital "L".

Damn. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Say, how about applying this rule to ALL religions?

/naive

JG

We already have a code of conduct: "The right to free speech shall not be abridged".

And this from Putin, whose country suffered the Beslan atrocity.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Hamas says would accept Putin invitation to visit Moscow

If we receive an official invitation to visit Russia, we will visit Russia," the official, Ismail Haniyeh, told reporters after Putin was quoted by the Itar-Tass news agency as saying he intended to invite leaders of the Palestinian militant group to Moscow.

"Russia is maintaining contacts with the Hamas organization and intends in the near future to invite the leadership of this organization to Moscow," Putin was quoted as telling a news conference in the Spanish capital Madrid where he was on a visit.

Well, apparently they are still headed full-bore for dhimmitude. And here I thought that this whole thing might finally be the wake up call to what awaited them if they didn't open their eyes to what the [bigoted word]s are all about. Sad.

Do those idiot EUnuchs really think it will make the slightest difference? No amount of obsequious grovelling is gonna help. From Omar:

One last thing, even if the entire EU apologizes it won't change a thing; fanatics in our countries here had always considered the west their infidel arrogant crusader enemy and no apology no matter how big or sincere can change that.

What should be said is this:

We'll respect your religion when your respect our religions (other religions of the world), including allowing the free and open worship and practice (including proseltysation) of all religions in Arab countries, including Saudi Arabia.

You want your religion to be respected? Respect ours.

please mr islamic world, thank you for allowing me to live..

please mr islamic world, thank you for allowing me to bow to your supremacy

please mr islamic world, bite my ASS

i dont bow to anyone, let alone 12th century wackos with oil money...

Experts agree that when a three year old throws a screaming, crying, fall on the floor temper tantrum the best way to deal with it is to give the child exactly what it wants. That way the child learns the consequences of holding on to infantile behavior patterns and grows up happy, secure and well adjusted. Just like the moslem world.

JWM

This just accelerates the demise of Europe.

We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,” he told the newspaper. “We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right.”

In other words, when the "consequences" of free speech are raging muslims, we'll quietly stifle ourselves. Sounds like the self-imposed dhimmitude of a servile continent.

Michelle has a video posted right now of Danish TV going after one of the imams who passed out the "fakes", and the guy keeps hammering the spinning imam!

The only solution is for ordinary Europeans to take to the streets and threaten as convincingly as Muslims. Might makes right.

We are all alone...

Europe is moving over to the other side...

We have to stay strong... A Democrat win will move us on a path to the other side as well...

We must not give up, we must continue to fight this evil, this virus, before it consumes more of the planet.

Justice and Security Commissioner?

Please...Look at this guy's face. Would you trust this twit with your security?

I can't say that I'm at all surprized. I wonder if the Muslim press will reciprocate and agree to be equally sensitive to other religions? (sarcasm)

“The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,” he told the newspaper. “We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right.”

So ends the right to freedom of speech in Europe. Simply tossed away as a good will gesture. Europeans should be weeping.

Well, the Danes are going to come to Israel to play soccer as planned...

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

#17 AmericanGirl

This is a politician talking, not folks. It will take an election (ala Churchill replacing Chamberlain) before you start hearing a new EU voice.

At least, that is my hope.

"The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression," he told the newspaper. "We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right."

While we're regulating free expression, let's go ahead and regulate your thoughts too. Oh wait, that's already happening.

Long Live the Blogs!

Wow.

So we're all going to be tried in the Int'l Court of Justice in The Hauge if we don't abide by EU law?

I'm going to Int'l House of Pancakes (No, no Corrie ref. intended) instead.

Does everyone get why ships teaming with immigrants left Europe for the USA in the 19th and early 20th centuries now?

Everyone worth a damn may have left Europe in those days.

This whole thing is insane. We already have a code of conduct here in the US. It's called the WOT and we want to end the terror. You are either with us in this fight or not.

Hello Islam! Tell us all about your world. Do you have holidays like Valentines day? Do you ever celebrate plain old love or plain old life in general? Do you ever laugh or find joy in all the amazing things about this world? Do you teach your children to love? What do you love? I know what you hate and it's getting repetitive and very uncomfortable to hear. Don't you think it's a perfect time to start letting us know different? Hellooooooo! I can't hear you!

Self Mutilation
Self Fladulation
Self Masturbation

The EU Motto.

I'm surprised that they have not offered the Imams a blow job for their troubles.

So the US must make a choice. Do we follow Europe to total surrender, or do we defend our freedoms?

The recent successes of CAIR suggest we are merely at an earlier stage of surrender.

It's wake up time. It's time for our leaders to stop insisting that Islam is a "noble religion" and "religion of peace." Instead, our leaders should insist that Islam either reform or be eradicated.

There is no middle ground. We must reject the legitimacy of a religion that seeks world conquest, that promotes violent jihad, that responds to terrorist attacks in its name with excuses and obfuscation, that promotes race-hate, and that responds to cartoons with deadly riots.

“The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,” he told the newspaper. “We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right.”

Oh, brother!

/You see, Ahmed, I told you these Euroweenies are such pussies. Just call out a few of the brothers for a flag burning, and, bam, they surrender.

We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,

yes, it draws out the evil ones
it reveals the charachter of many

it reveals the truth of those who speak
to those who listen

go ahead...dhimmify yourself

there's no doubt the strong genes patterns left Europe

while the weak and controllable stayed behind

Who are we to criticize the Europeans? The abject failure of the American media to publish copies of the Danish cartoons is a disgrace; you'd think the First Amendment never exisited. The MSM has sacrificed free speech on the altar of multiculturalism and sensitivity.

Self-censorship is the worst type of censorship.

#27 Ringo the Gringo

LOL
Inspector Clouseau?

I'm so glad I went to Europe (Paris and Amsterdam) on my honeymoon a few years ago. It was such a beautiful place before it was cast back into the Dark Ages.

RIP, the Europe I knew.

Anyone else hoping for a soccer hooligan uprising?

They could be the EU's last hope.

Who are we to criticize the Europeans?

The only people with a Bill of Rights on Earth.

Time to defend it.

."May I jihad your Buttocks, or would you prefer mine?"

Spoken behind closed doors at the EU headquarters during discussions on the cartoons

"No thank you. A simple ass kissing would suffice."

I'm taking bets on who will be the first left-wing nutjob in our Congress to try to introduce similar legislation here.

Europe is DOOMED.

They sicken me. I gotta go.

Back later.

Gawd....we need to nuke something.

Speaking "Off the Cuff":

Q: Denmark's newspaper issue. Can you comment?

SG: I have spoken out about this, basically indicating that the cartoons and the re-publishing of the cartoons have given offence to many Muslims. Obviously, I do respect freedom of the press, but freedom of the press is not a licence. It does entail responsibility and judgment. And what I would say is that the paper concerned has apologized and despite the offence that has been caused and the apologies that were made, we need to be sensitive to other religions, we need to respect other religions. And respect what is sacred to others, be sensitive to what is sacred to others. But despite the general offence the publication has caused, I do not think that it justifies the violence we have seen. I don't think it justifies attacking innocent people. And I would appeal to all concerned, all people in authority and with influence, to men and women of goodwill to engage in dialogue and bring this thing to an end. We should de-escalate and avoid any words or actions that will inflame the situation.

Who is we?

Q: One of your priorities at taking office was to restore the credibility of the UN. How much do you think have you achieved over the last two tenures?

SG: I think we have done quite a lot with the UN. When you look at the areas that we have been active in, from the fight against poverty, fight against HIV/AIDS, the rule of law and human rights, and the work in the area of peace and conflict. We have moved on and done quite a lot and reached out in partnership.

Kofi has the easiest job in the world.

I have spoken

Sean asked Does everyone get why ships teaming with immigrants left Europe for the USA in the 19th and early 20th centuries now?

Yes. The Europeans certainly remember this. That's why they consider the United States to be a nation that must control. It's the entire reason Cecil Rhodes and Edward Mandell House set in motion the institutions to control the United States(Federal Reserve, Council on Foreign Relations, Fabian Society).

“The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,” he told the newspaper. “We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right.”

Self-regulation of the media by the government? I thought the media was free. I guess not!

Self-regulation due to a decision to maintain good taste - ie. not to satirise the icons of ANY religion (not just those that do not threaten to decapitate the editor, vide yesterday's NYT ) - is OK, so long as the choice is made freely. Two key words here, self and freely. Just because we CAN do something doesn't mean that we HAVE to.

Self-regulation due to coercion, well, that's a one way ticket to hell in a handcart. I would say shame on the EU, but to paraphrase Terry Pratchett, for the EU shame holds no shame.

What a bunch of friggin' worms.

PS. I'm proud of my president, who's visiting your president today. He said that it is possible that Polish troops may stay in Iraq until sometime in 2007 if necessary.

The code would be drawn up by the European Commission, the EU executive body, and European media outlets, he said. It would not have legal status.

Just more bureaucratic feel-good nonsense.

The cowering media here are no better. When Michelle Malkin showed the cartoons on Hannity and Clueless, not only was she censured, but she had to drag Clueless up from his fetal position under the desk.

I guess you can't expect a leopard to change its spots...

#40 Paul

You're absolutely right. Especially after the American media made such a point of how important it was for them to not only print the pictures of Abu Graib once, but to continue to plaster them all over the papers and internet ad nauseum for what seemed forever. They served only to inflame Arab passions (oh so difficult to ignite) against our troops. The American MSM sucks. Big time.

“The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,” he told the newspaper. “We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right.”

I could not have described this response more accurately myself.

#44 Sean

Right on! But, don't expect any help from the press.

Damnit, the press & the lawyers are supposed to be on our side!

Hmmmmmm? You don't suppose that's why we have the 2nd Ammendment?

Sheesh. Even the Muslims know that footballing isn't going to bring them any victories over the infidels. The only people worse than the Arabs at football are the Persians.

#44 Sean:

Hey man, the ACLU has been defending the Bill of Rights for years!

/sarcasm

Agreed that we are in bad shape here as well... The fact that our media will not publish these over 'respect for Islam" is total BS. The MSM is scared... They do not want to face the fact that the radical elements of Islam have taken the faith hostage and are flying the plane straight into everyones homes and every capital in the world...

{Geepers}-

Just more bureaucratic feel-good nonsense.

Hopefully, some brave Euro-papers will ignor this "code" then.

What is wrong with these people?

Plus: Yet more child abuse.

Fools. Utter fools.

When's the next "Gun Nut Show"? I've got some disposable income somewhere...

MUSLIMS WIN. . MUSLIMS WIN
/no cars were burned in the making of this victory

EU newspapers better not take this lying down. They're the only ones with any spine left.

Maybe if Bush "ordered" the U.S. media not to publish the cartoons, we would see them on the front page of the NYT, 'cause then it would involve principle.

“We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right.”

Speak for yourself, Bub.

Suitable punishments, no doubt, for media that don't self-regulate?

First offense: a fine
2nd offense: flogging
3rd offense: extradition to Iran

This is the way that the EU celebrates Ashoura.

Oh,by the way Jacques, that sound you just heard was your newfound cojones dropping off.
Jeez!

unreconstructed #31:

This is a politician talking, not folks. It will take an election (ala Churchill replacing Chamberlain) before you start hearing a new EU voice.

EU officials are not eleceted, some like their UN counterparts are somehow appointed by their own countries, which I guess could be directly affected by elections, but the majority like the UN are beureacrats who somehow got hired to be a commissioner of something. Just like you cannot vote out Terje Roed Larsen or El-Baradei, you cannot vote out these audi driving beureacrats.

The EU is simply not a democratice institution, but is really nothing more than a proletariat.

Maybe if Bush "ordered" the U.S. media not to publish the cartoons, we would see them on the front page of the NYT, 'cause then it would involve principle

#43 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Anyone else hoping for a soccer hooligan uprising?

Some of those extreme right parties are starting to look awfully attractive.

Oh goody, Canada's new gov't is also ready to surrender.

In a press release yesterday, Peter McKay groveled:

“This sensitive issue highlights the need for a better understanding of Islam and of Muslim communities. Respect for cultural diversity and freedom of religion is a fundamental principle in Canada.”

My very favorite part?

The Government of Canada will continue to promote a better understanding of Islam internationally, in partnership with Muslim communities.

Great. Now we have a gov't, in a secular nation, promoting religion. Any religion would be bad, but they couldn't have found a worse one to champion if they tried.

Charles - you used to have a contest on when Europe will adopt sharia...did anyone choose February 9, 2006? If so, he/she can win the prize...he can turn off the light on what was once called "Western Europe."

Surprise, surprise...the EU was given the opportunity to stand up for itself or to bow to Islam, and has, surprise, chosen dhimmitude.

Long-time LGFrs will recall that Mark Steyn pointed out what a big mistake France made when it sought an "advisory opinion" from Imans in Egypt that it was "acceptable under Islam" to ban the headscarf. His theory was that once the French admitted that Muslims in Egypt had veto power over an internal French matter, they esentially admitted that France is no longer part of Europe, but of the dar-al-Islam, and must therefore submit to Ismamic jurisdiction over everything.

And now, given their last chance to say no, the EU has chosen surrender. Plus, as is obvious for everyone who has been paying attention, displaying weakness will not appease the violent, but will only lead to more violence, more threats and more concessions.

Will the Europeans themselves stand for this? Are they going to kowtow to Islam? I told my wife the other day that I feared that their leaders would cave, and would then agree to pay their "Islamic tax" indirectly by agreeing to fund Hamas as a way of mollifying the rioters.

Well, I was right about step one...and is there anyone here who will take a bet on whether the announcement of the funding of Hamas to ensure "peace in our time" is not far behind?

If there are any Jews in Europe who haven't already packed their bags, they'd better start packing today.

Don't know what happened to the rest of my post, but I said "How true and sad" that ct is right.

Forgot the link for #73.

Link

The Islamofascists have won---period.

The European bureaucrats consider "self-regulation" (i.e. self-censorship)of the press; the American press is already engaging in it. This is the most shameful capitulation to violence and the threat of violence since Munich.

And the consequences will be just as serious.

Stringart-

“This sensitive issue highlights the need for a better understanding of Islam and of Muslim communities. Respect for cultural diversity and freedom of religion is a fundamental principle in Canada.”

Nevermind it's the Muslims that aren't respecting the culture of Free Speech.

While some EU countries may support this type of thing, I feel assured that countries with spines (Czech Republic, Poland, etc.) won't accept such measures. These are countries that have felt oppression and lack of freedom recently, and don't intend to go back.

51 Geepers

Just more bureaucratic feel-good nonsense.

Oh yeah. Get a load of this feely-feel good dialog:

The Special Rapporteurs urged all parties to refrain from any form of violence and to avoid fuelling hatred. They also encouraged States to promote the interrelated and indivisible nature of human rights and freedoms and to advocate the use of legal remedies as well as the pursuance of a peaceful dialogue on matters which go to the heart of all multicultural societies.

Link

#70 J. Lichty

Understand your point. It will take some doing before EU's voice changes. I just hope that the Europeans have what it takes to throw the bastards out.

European Western Civilization is under attack on two fronts. The direct assault of the Islamists and Islamo Fascists on one front and the fifth column EU from within. Have Europeans taken a look at themselves and decided that they are not worth saving? Are they waiting for the Americans to take the lead as in Bosnia and Kosovo (talk about backing the wrong horse)? Not this time Charlie, time for Europe to make some choices. They have made so many wrong decisions lately that maybe they will make a right one by default.

The EU Charter is weaker than the 'Articles of Confederation' or the 'UN Charter'....

"The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression," he told the newspaper. "We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right."

no teeth, no gonads, no military...

no-one pays attention

#74 Darwin Akbar

Well, I was right about step one...and is there anyone here who will take a bet on whether the announcement of the funding of Hamas to ensure "peace in our time" is not far behind?

But I wouldn't bet against the US participating. Something analogous has happened here: when Condi Rice said Hamas must recognize Israel and renounce violence, she simply told them the words they must mouth in English to get enough cash to arm tens of thousands of Palestinian barbarians.

The EU sez:

"The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression... We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right."

How is this any different than the American cowards at the NY Times and CNN?

The New York Times
February 7, 2006

Those Danish Cartoons

By THE EDITORS

The New York Times and much of the rest of the nation's news media have reported on the cartoons but refrained from showing them. That seems a reasonable choice for news organizations that usually refrain from gratuitous assaults on [muslim] religious symbols, especially since the cartoons are so easy to describe in words.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

And:

"CNN has chosen to not show the cartoons out of respect for Islam."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Cowards one and all -- willing to sell out the basis of a free society to appease mobs of lunatics with the intellect of a 6th grader.  The message: "We Will Submit."
 

The Islamists have made it clear:they want the total destruction of all "infidels" who profess a religion other than Islam.If you won't subvert to them they will kill you. They have been waiting and trying for Centuries to set up their caliphate.No Christians or Jews allowed.Respect them if they respect us?In their view there is no us, only them.

#78 W-lover

Nevermind it's the Muslims that aren't respecting the culture of Free Speech.

Sssh, we're not supposed to notice that minor detail.

God damn these cowardly pieces of shit.
The sooner Great Britain leaves that filthy nest of criminals and failed politicians the better.

(Unless the code of conduct reads 'piss off you jihadi turds', in which case I take it back.)

85 William -

Saw something about the willful avoidance of printing these caricatures on Tucker Carlson's show last night. He had an editor on that was afraid to show the caricatures because of fear of reprisal. However, he did make a valid point:

Outlets like CNN, Fox, MSNBC, NYT, and others have journalists in foreign (Arab)lands with very little protection. It may be more of a 'self preservation' thing than a 'respecting muslims' thing.

Europe, in chains and manacles, roughly forced by the conquerors down the dank, dark, rocky stairs to the abysmal belly of the ancient keep

The giant keyring rattles as one is selected and opens the ancient, rusty lock

Eeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrkk!

The massive oaken door complains its opening and Europe is shoved to a filthy, rat-infested pallet where the mildewed straw is crawling with vermin. Weak light braves the gloom from a greasy, sputtering torch, far in the corner.

Eeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrkk!
*slam*

Goodbye, Europe. You have chosen your fate.

Doesn't if figure.

Europe couldn't defend themselves in WWII and we saved their sorry butts!

I wonder if it's going to be worth losing our young to save them again?

Mind you, thank goodness for the Internet. Looks like it came along at just the right time as the last bastion of unregulated discussion and thought on the planet.

It really is time to bring the soldiers home now from all foreign bases. Let's at least give them the chance to die defending thier families here at home.

I guess that the Islamist protester marching in London last week had a message the has been taken to heart in Old Europe. "Fuck Freedom" becomes the battle cry of the New Old Europe, and becomes official policy for the EU. I guess that is to be expected from a people who have had so little experience with the type of freedoms institutionalized in the Republic of the United States.

#89 That maybe true, but they should just admit to it, rather than claiming all this 'respect' bullshit.

They can do all the "mulling", but i bet that it won't materialize.
Notwithstanding the famed euro-governance ineffeciency, i can tell you that ordinary people in france are ANGRY.

I had to "book" my copy of "charlie-hebdo", the satirical weekly that printed the cartoons(and had to re-print another 300 000 copies to meet demand).
My news paper guy told me that he had to hid his allocated copies for his rgular customers as he was overwhelmed by demand.

It is yet another strong signal that people and their leaders are totally estranged.
The cartoons crisis did for european what countless beheading and metro bombings didn't.

We 've had enough of the PC sh.t;Chirac can go to hell , or retire to morocco for what i care, but don't touch my press freedom.

Blogger scroogle yahoo and china already do this

Political correctness world police

#82 gymnast

Not this time Charlie, time for Europe to make some choices.

Problem is, in the past century, whenever Europe had to make a choice, they chose not to make a choice, and it was made for them. Looks like they haven't figured out after a couple of world wars that when you have to make a choice, it's better to do so.

Europe is fooked!

The Dems would have us do the same here. Probably McCain would agree.

Bastards.

Kofi Annan (#80),

The Special Rapporteurs urged all parties to refrain from any form of violence and to avoid fuelling hatred. They also encouraged States to promote the interrelated and indivisible nature of human rights and freedoms and to advocate the use of legal remedies as well as the pursuance of a peaceful dialogue on matters which go to the heart of all multicultural societies.

Aw yes, everything will be all right now.

We all know how well respected the UN is in the muslim world.

One should not confuse the mood of the ordinary Europeans on the streets with that of their collaborating leaders. I believe Europe is heading towards major wide spread upheavals similar in size and scope to those of 1848. Only this time if the old regime manages to survive, it will mean the continent slipping towards Euroarabia.

Europe’s stale and corrupt political elites, elites that have effectively denied their citizens a say over so much of what goes on in their own countries, must be removed from power.

Any attempt by the EU to ram through some dhimmi anti-free speech legislation could well be the spark to ignite Europe.

#89 Matticus Finch writes:

Outlets like CNN, Fox, MSNBC, NYT, and others have journalists in foreign (Arab)lands with very little protection. It may be more of a 'self preservation' thing than a 'respecting muslims' thing.

Brit Hume has shown the bomber turban cartoon on Special Report.

But aside from that, the 'self preservation' argument distills down to this: "We Will Submit."  If the entire "mainstream" media pulls an Eason Jordan, what are we left with?  The Saddams and mobs on the streets dictating to the free world what can, and cannot, be published.
 

#84 - I was not referring to the US funding Hamas, but the EU...it will be their way of attempting to mollify the savages....but it won't work.

I have faith that the US gov't will not do so....our President and senators still have to answer to an electorate that doesn't threaten to behead people.

The EU is just an extension of the UN.

100 Geepers 2/9/2006 08:02AM PST

Aw yes, everything will be all right now.

We all know how well respected the UN is in the muslim world.

very well respected, they are their largest funding resource for weapons.....

#104 Baler

The EU is just an extension of the UN.

The really sad thing is that it doesn't have to be.

102 William -

I totally agree. No need to convince me. It sends the same message. I just hadn't thought of the self-preservation angle before.

IMO, journalists, or anyone for that matter, should be willing to pay the high price of the freedoms they so cherish and freely tout. Sorry. If you can't take the idea that there is a possibility of getting kidnapped for your foreign corresponcence job, then find another line of work. Firemen risk getting burned, policmen risk getting shot. Foreign journalists risk getting abducted.

The haven't figured out what the Israelis have: feeding them makes them hungrier.

I would kindly attract your attention to the fact that this "media code" is barely at the proposal stage. Considering the bureocratic times, it will take at least several months before it's even drafted.

However, it's an idiotic and coward idea. Myself, I won't respect any regulation of this kind - there is a difference between what's illegal and what's immoral.

Grunt.

It really is time to bring the soldiers home now from all foreign bases. Let's at least give them the chance to die defending thier families here at home.

I'm with you on that one. Bring them home and watch Europe freak out. And just maybe they will find a spine!

It's gotta be the oil. Islamic control of oil. It makes little sense otherwise.

#73

The Government of Canada will continue to promote a better understanding of Islam internationally, in partnership with Muslim communities.

Imagine the uproar by the MSM if press release said instead: "The Government of Canada will continue to promote a better understanding of Christianity internationally, in partnership with Christian communities.

JRR Tolkien was a prophet.

The West's leaders are like the spell-stricken King Theoden and the defeatist Denethor. Some, like Putin, are even taking on the role of Saruman and all but openly siding with the Enemy. The media are the Palantiri, showing us only what the Enemy wants us to see.

It has all come down to the little folk. But where will they find true leaders to guide them?

The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,”

Uh, isn't that called REPRESSION?
Arg. Hate and regulate the Christians, kiss the Muslim hindquarters. Freedom is only for the murderous?

Ya gotta love the surrender monkeys!

Oh. My. Word.

The EU can't make it any plainer.

All of you have quoted the highlight passage. But we didn't have to "in other words" this, or very much. How can you make "Muslims, we have learned the consequences of free speech. We will self-regulate," any clearer?

#34 Sean

This can best be summed up with a quote from General Patton:

"Many of you have in your veins Geman and Italian blood. But remember that these ancestors of yours so loved freedom that they gave up home and country to cross the ocean in search of liberty. The ancestors of the people we shall kill lacked the courage to make such a sacrifice and remained slaves." -- George S. Patton

Some slaves need chains to realize they are slaves.

How would you like us to surrender, with or without burkas?

If the "mainstream" media insist on using the term "Prophet Mohammed" 100% of the time, without fail, does this mean they will start using the term "Savior Jesus"?

Or, shudder the thought, could there be a dhimmi double-standard in play here?  I'm not even religious, but am considering this purely from the standpoint of objective journalism.

Google News search for "Prophet Mohammed" yields 4,230 articles:
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I think the facts make it clear the "mainstream" media follow a dhimmi double-standard...
 

I am a European, but let me tell you all that I am not very proud of what is happening here. I have had more than enough with this crap and from now on I will vote exclusively for anybody who defends my judeo-christian culture assertively and keeps the others far away. I am sick and deeply disgusted. May all these EU creeps rot in hell.

“The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,”

....and we do not have the courage to accept them.

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#120 cocodee

If you're ever so inclined, come on over to the US of A. We like adding such strong individuals to our numbers.

Those sick perverted Eurocrats...how quickly they forget their own history- something that we American are always accused of doing)!

Do they not recall in their recent history the deprivations wrought upon Europe by the Mohammedan hordes, stopped at the Gates of Vienna, defeated at the Sea Battle of Lepanto, at Tours by Charles Martel? They battled against the Mohammedan encroachments for centuries taking back Spain and the Iberian Peninsula only through the centuries culminating with their being driven from there by Ferdinand & Isabella!

What horrid creatures these new Europeans are when they refuse to mention any word of their Christian heritage which made Europe GREAT in their diabolically influenced "Constitution" and yet will bow and scrape to any lengths to these Mohammedan savages so as not to lose any more Euros/Crowns/Pounds in trade. And they revile us for being about business. This is what this entire sick Western culture has come down to - money and making money.

I read an article several months ago in The Wall Street Journal I think that said that even these incestuous Western so-called elites know that Western Civilization is doomed. They have no clue as to what to do anymore and are only fighting for time so that the deluge will not hit them in their lifetime. Why should not Our Lord abandon us to the Mohammedans once more as we have turned our collective backs on Him. When there is a void in this post-Christian West, something evil tends to step in and take over. This is what the Mohammedans are doing and I do believe that they are being allowed by God to scourge us for abandoning Him and The True Faith.

Sadly, I see no turnaround for us except by Divine Intervention because we have no clue anymore as to what to do. It's every man, woman and child of European background on his/her own for we are not far, I fear, from our days of reckoning. God Have Mercy on all of us who will experience the coming cataclsym!

#12
Flemming Rose, Editor of the Danish Jyllands-Posten newspaper, said yesterday:

Even though I do recognize that a lot of Muslims have been offended by these cartoons, and I apologize for that, I'm really sorry if people have been offended. That was not my intention. My focus was on the question of self censorship.

Looks like the EU is willing to settle that question for you.

If the EU attempts to force this "self-censorship" it is the beginning of the end for it, one way or another.

What brings Abdullah to the street?
I'd really like to know
Beheadings? Bombings? Other feats?
What makes Abdullah show?

Was he in Trafalgar on 8 July?
Did he show he was concerned?
Did he carry a sign supporting peace
When the French suburbs were burned?

Where are the pictures of his Beslan rage?
Did I miss that in the news?
What sympathies did he extend
To the families of the Sbarro Jews?

You tell me that he did not come
To protest brutal death
The sacrifice of innocents
Was just not worth his breath

But he rages at a drawing
Of a prophet he holds dear
He gathers throngs around him
And urges death so all can hear

What has this old world come to
When a picture means much more
Than the truly evil tragedies
That all should just abhor?

"Who is John Galt?"

#127 Lazarus

(shrug)

Where are the borders of Islam?

Wherever Allah wants them.

Where does Allah want them?

Nowhere...

Well isn't this special?

the crowd that "thundered" when Democrat Barney Frank called the pace of progress in black neighborhoods "a policy of ethnic cleansing by inaction."

WashPost Pushes Rally Against Bush's "Ethnic Cleansing By Inaction"

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I wonder if the Christians and Jews are going to be put in the code of conduct with Islam? I $20 that says NO.

I wonder what would happen if say next time the media published I don’t know cross in piss or virgin Mary of elephant sh*t if the Catholics and Christians started rioting across EU and US. I wonder if a “code of ethics” would be the EU response so not to “offend” again?

We are turning it some but I fear that a large portion of our population in the west is just too propagandized and reeducated with the LLL mentality. They are compromised to the point were they are very close to an active hindrance to our survival.

#128 jamgarr

(shrug)

I'm ready to. All I need is a gulch.

Last night, I think it was on Nightline (ABC?), they were talking to the Danish editor who printed the cartoons. They blurred out the Mohammed cartoons, but when the editor showed that they make fun of all religions, the did not blur out the Jewish cartoon: a picture of a black bomb with a lit fuse, and the star of David on it. The editor pointed out that it was drawn by the same artist who drew the Mohammed with the same kind of bomb in his tuban.

Is the MSM just not afraid of other religions? They know that Christians and Jews will not start burning down buildings over a cartoon. Or do they simply favor the Muslims as oppressed peoples who are victims?

To me, it sounds like the MSM is a bunch of cowards, and/or biased PC losers.

Hey, Geepers! Happy belated birthday. Heading home on Sunday or ou coming out Monday. Are you coming out skiing this record-breaking year?

El Cid, Ferdinand and Isabella, Charles Martel, Jan Sobieski

COME BACK, WE NEED YOU HERE!

Signed
An undhimmi European.

What about an islamic code of conduct? Oh....., they are using it to blow up children, including thier own.

#131 C-Low

Actually a few months ago a bloke was arrested in London for wearing a T-shirt offensive to Christians, under the nefarious new "hate speech" laws.

mommydoc (#134),

Hey, Geepers! Happy belated birthday. Heading home on Sunday or ou coming out Monday. Are you coming out skiing this record-breaking year?

Hey mommydoc. Thanks!

I'd like to but I don't have any plans yet. My dad says he's never seen so many new snow days.

Have you heard anything about the new lift?

#123 Indefatigable

Thanks for the offer. I lived several years in your country in the eighties and I am very fond of it and its values. Nevertheless, I am getting too old to be of any use to you.....lol....

#139 cocodee

Eh, it was worth a shot. :)

#61 asked what's wrong with these people.

well, if i may...Satan is desensitizing them so it can use them to kill, maim, torture Jews and Christians and anybody else that gets in its way. At least, that was my immediate thought upon viewing those despicable pictures. Who would do such a thing? Who would revel in all that blood? Someone/thing evil.

"We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression."

The consequences of exercising the right of free expression include the founding of the United States of America, the end of colonialism in India, the end of Apartheid and Jim Crow. So, no wonder the Eurabiaweenies want to give it up.

Presumably Europe will continue to exercise its right to unfettered free expression when it comes to glorifying suicide bombers and denigrating the leaders of Israel and the U.S.

79 Matticus Finch

Yes, indeed. The Check PM called the Danish PM today to express solidarity, according to the Czech News Agency.

73 Stringart

Oh goody, Canada's new gov't is also ready to surrender.

In a press release yesterday, Peter McKay groveled:

“This sensitive issue highlights the need for a better understanding of Islam and of Muslim communities. Respect for cultural diversity and freedom of religion is a fundamental principle in Canada.”

My very favorite part?

The Government of Canada will continue to promote a better understanding of Islam internationally, in partnership with Muslim communities.

Great. Now we have a gov't, in a secular nation, promoting religion. Any religion would be bad, but they couldn't have found a worse one to champion if they tried.

Great I just voted these guys in and they learned the language of the dhimmi in less than time than it takes a liberal to increase my taxes.

GAWD, what a bunch of PUSSIES! If you're afraid to fight for your freedoms, you're hopeless.

The French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo reprinted cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad yesterday and published one of its own on its front page, further angering Muslim groups that say the caricatures are blasphemous. It depicted the Prophet burying his face in his hands and saying: "It's hard to be loved by fools."

While no major Canadian publications have printed the cartoons, they have appeared in a couple of student newspapers, including The Cadre at the University of Prince Edward Island, where administrators removed copies.

They have also been published in Australia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Denmark, [France], Fiji, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Jordan, Malaysia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, South Africa, Spain, Switzerland, the United States, Ukraine and Yemen.

Source: [Link: www.theglobeandmail.com,...] today - World section.

#144 Valis

It's possible a FA weenie just handed out the standard weasel words with McKay's name as minister at top. After all, McKay was at Meech Lake all day.

/Wishing really, really hard this is the case.

#147 Stringart

It's possible a FA weenie just handed out the standard weasel words with McKay's name as minister at top. After all, McKay was at Meech Lake all day.

They definitely had the stink of a career diplomat (weasel) about them.

Of course, the Muslim world can continue to print any Jew-hating shit it wants.

Sometimes it appears the Euros deserve what they are going to get when showtime happens.

--- feh ---

#130 Geepers

the crowd that "thundered" when Democrat Barney Frank called the pace of progress in black neighborhoods "a policy of ethnic cleansing by inaction."

As Powerline pointed out, Mr. Frank just revealed his belief that blacks are too stupid and lazy to actually survive without government largess. Dr. Mr. Frank, you are a Racist with a capital "R."

If I were black I'd be offended big time.

#133 prousa

I saw it too and it blew me away (no pun intended). Not only did they not blur out the Star-of-David-on-a-bomb cartoon, but they also showed unblurred clips from "Life of Brian" and "South Park" lampooning Jesus. Why did Nightline do this, if they indeed "respect all religions"? I think, as you suggested, ABC can only answer this in one of two ways --- either they respect Muslims more or they fear Muslims more. Personally, I think it's the latter (tho' ABC and CNN probably won't admit it).

That said, I personally would stop short of calling the MSM "cowards", simply because I'm airing my comments anonymously. It's easy to be bold and brash when no one knows who or where you are....blogs affords us that anonymity. Not so when you're ABC or CNN or BBC or NYTimes, where angry people can look you up on websites, phone books, or in the paper and make life an endless Salman-Rushdie hell for you. At the moment, I like being able to say what I want and not have people know who I am. I don't want angry Muslims fire-bombing my house or stalking me in the night. My ability to say what I want is pretty risk-free now and I like it that way. Kudos to those like Charles (if that's his real name :-), Michelle Malkin, Ayann Hirsi-Ali, the Euro-rags who posted the cartoons, and others who aren't as anonymous as me. So I prefer to lay off the MSM who are much more in the public line of fire than I am, until I have the balls to show myself publicly like they do every day. However, I would like to see the elements of the MSM come right out and say they fear Islam more than they respect it (yesterday's Nightline feature testifies to this). And I don't think this is necessarily a negative thing to admit. Why? Because it would be a huge strike against Islam. What it does is make it harder for Muslims to claim the "peacefulness/tolerance" of Islam and highlight what really drives Islam worldwide and makes it the so-called "fastest-growing religion" --- FEAR. If I were a moderate, peace-loving "no-compulsion-in-religion" Muslim, this is NOT something I would be very proud of. Furthermore, the more the "fear factor" within Islam gets exposed, the more embarassed Muslims have to ask why they believe what they believe --- is it really because they think it's truth, or is it because they're afraid someone will go after them if they leave the "fold"? Again, given everything we've witnessed thus far, I say the latter. So should the MSM.

doubledip,

I might appreciate what you say more if I hadn't witnessed the MSM preening and selfrighteously proclaiming their courage of "speaking TRUTH TO POWER" oh these many years.

I'm sure they are afraid. Rightly so. And its under trials like these where we find out where our REAL character resides.

The MSM's moment is here. They have continously whined about "dissent" being stifled by the odious Bush. Well here's a REAL case of dissent being stifled and the MSM's response?

Appeasement. Judge them accordingly.

However wimpish their governments are, maybe (just maybe) european citizens (and voters) are begninning to appreciate their dilemma in having so many nazis living among them. They still have votes and they may just demand governments that protect them rather than surrendering at teh first sign of enemy activity.

This may be a false hope. Even naive. But if I'm wrong, europe is gone.

The way I see it Europe is dead and just needs to be buried.

Islam is a religion of SUBMISSION, not peace.

To have peace with Islam, you must SUBMIT to the Muslims!

We don't own them anything.

I guess it's Arrivederci, Roma..
Nice knowin' ya.

To code red 21,

Yeah, you got some shovels? Let's dig out the ground, bury Europe and say our prayers to Europe and freedom. Afterward, we got to a pub and celebrate Europe's honor with pints of finest European beers!

"To Europe, may ye rest in peace!"

Please note that the Eurabia plan is concocted by Latin Europe, the mediterranean countries.

I have recurring dreams of demonstrating a new improved Gatling gun to Barroso (Portugal), Solana (Spain), Chirac, Villepin (France) and Frattini (Italy).

The most succesful countries in Europe are the ones in the North, especially the Scandinavian ones (which happen to be EFTA or ex-EFTA countries). The international GCI (Growth Competitiveness Index) 2005 Rankings show that Finland is first, Sweden third, Denmark fourth, Iceland (EFTA) 7th, Switzerland (EFTA) 8th and Norway (EFTA) 9th.

In stark contrast Portugal is only 22nd and the Spain, France and Belgium group has rank 29-31, below Ireland and Israel (Italy even has rank 47).

Here is the list.

It's logical for the North European countries to leave the stagnating Latin-Arab EU, now the Constitution has been demolished, and join the EFTA countries for a better future.

It will be interesting to see how this conflicts with existing laws in Europe. Especially in regard to Holocaust deniers & gays. They are going to jerryrig a system that will harm all. OT: Muslim Convert(Pakistani?) Not Sure If He Wants Osama or Bush To Win

It always frightens me to ponder over the consequences of an outright victory for Osama or Bush in "The War on Terror"...We revere Prophet Jesus and never question his ancestry or character. To us he was born out of Virgin Mary as the Almighty willed. We ask no questions and have no doubts. Period

He ties in WMD & the cartoons...Seems to imply the answer to WMD proliferation is tolerance, and no more darn cartoons.

#152 jjag

You're absolutely right. Much like the internal cognitive-dissonance battle (or is it "jihad"?) Muslims have to fight that I mentioned earlier, the MSM have their own to fight as well --- i.e. do they stand for truth all of the time, or do they stand in fear some of the time? And like you said, because they've always claimed to stand for truth, it's that much harder for them to admit when they don't stand up because of fear. This is a real quandary for them.

I don't mind admitting there's fear on my part, which is why I don't feel any internal cognitive-dissonance battle to fight. The MSM don't have that luxury, OTOH, and their character and reputation are on the line because of that. How they all handle this whole cartoon thing is definitely a watershed moment for them. I'm watching with anticipation to see how this all plays out.

Re-post, but a picture is worth a thousand words, and this is on topic.

#157 the_flying_pig

I have the shovels now I need a Pub. I really hated to say what I did say about Europe because we are not far behind. We don't have the people in place, like Patton and Reagan, with the guts to say kiss my ass you f'ing idiots. I'm really angry about all of the crap that's going on and thinking there isn't a whole lot I can do about it other than to pray. What I would like to do is something a little more violent so they would just leave us the hell alone. The f'king bastards.

#46 opine6

"I'm taking bets on who will be the first left wing nutjob in congress to try to introduce similar legislation here"

Ahhh...but it has already begun my friend.

90 Miss Trixie 2/9/2006 07:46AM PST

That is such a great metaphor.

Ah, the Thought-Police™ already on the move....

Latin-Arab countries my ass. France isn't truly Latin - despite the language; it's Gaul. Sweden and Norway are suffocating socialist states with growing Islamic immigration problems.

Non-Idiotarian Euro Boat People crossing the Atlantic in 5.. 4.. 3....

/ :(

OT: The reason why the President says Islam is a religion of peace is to not lose the frikkin war. Unless we want to kill every Muslim on Earth, we need the help of those willing to help us. Such as security forces in various ME countries. It is so obvious. We have either recieved help, or at least non-interference,from many nations, and we need this. I don' presume to know what the President is thinking, but he is also the Head of State, as well as CiC. Contrary to the news, we have many Muslims who help us (especially those fearful of being overthrown by jihadis). I want to scream often at the President, but he is doing a great job. So far, Iraq & Afghanistan have new govts, Al Qaeda is on the ropes, Iran is being addressed, Libya has disarmed. AND there has been no uprising in the Arab Street against the WoT. He can't just freak out & lob missiles willy-nilly.

#168 Baldy

He can't just freak out & lob missiles willy-nilly.

Not freak out and definitely not willy nilly.

However, righteously pissed off, and he'll be a'nukin (with pinpoint precision, in a highly ordered, non-random fashion)when he comes, certainly! ;)

#130 geepers

Yeah, because we all know the Democrats have made the lives of blacks a picnic.

Yeah right. More like turn welfare into a program that gives them money to have kids, even if the fathers are accounted for, able-bodied and not working, put them up in housing projects that became pits of crime and despair, force them into failing public schools (in Milwaukee they can get vouchers for private schools because the public schools suck so much, and the Dems want to do away with that so their union teacher buddies can have job security), and rile them up by telling them they'll have it so much worse if the evil racist Republicans get elected.

sms111 is right. Barney Frank is a racist. And so are the rest of the Democrats. They literally think blacks can't pour piss out of a boot without the government telling them how to do it and paying them to do it.

The code would be drawn up by the European Commission, the EU executive body, and European media outlets, he said. It would not have legal status.

So, then there are no penalties?
It'll be interesting if this measure passes to see who would be the first to break the 'code of silence.'

What absurdity. Personally I feel some of the cartoons are too strong, such as the image of Mohammed with a bomb, and that the point could have been better made with simple or entirely jocular illustrations of Mohammed. The image of Mohammed with a bomb will have set the most moderate Muslim on edge. Some of those cartoons are a joke too far.

And the reactions are beyond a joke, the resignations, arrests, the rioting and so on that have resulted in deaths. And the jihadis will certainly push this as far as they can organising boycotts and marches, murders and whatnot. The ordinary Muslim if he notices does not, out of loyalty, object overly to being thus manipulated and will go on the march mindful of that damn cartoon with the Prophet and the bomb.

The dumbest reaction of all has to be this:

In an interview with Britain’s Daily Telegraph, EU Justice and Security Commissioner Franco Frattini said the charter would encourage the media to show “prudence” when covering religion.

“The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,” he told the newspaper. “We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right.”

That was:

EU Justice and Security Commissioner Franco Frattini said..."The press will give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression. We can and we are ready to self-regulate that right."

That was:

EU Justice and Security Commissioner Franco Frattini said..."The press ... are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression... and we are ready to self-regulate that right."

Because he says so. The "self-regulation" has begun.

169 mustrum - I assume you're referring to Iran? I doubt he'll use bunker-busting nukes, since the Dems & slimy RINOs will try to impeach.

So much for freedom of speech. Why wont't the civil libertians in the US crtize this. Because they are US = evil surrender monkeys.

Also, nuclear bunker-busters seem not to be as effective as one may think - FAS has a lengthy paper on the issue.

I wonder if a nuclear shaped charge is possible tho...