Big BUT alert!

Yeah, well dhimmitude is offensive to me.

I thought I smelled a big but coming.

Craven cowardice offends far more people, though we'll only slay you with words.

That was code for: "We're scared sh*tless!"

We feel there is nothing to gain on the side of freedom of expression and much to lose on the side of hurting feelings

"Hurting feelings"? Is that what we've come to? Pathetic sorry excuses for humans.

“We feel there is nothing to gain on the side of freedom of expression and much to lose on the side of hurting feelings,”

The definition of censorship on the multi-culti left.

Uh, yeah, that freedom of speech stuff is fine in theory and when somebody is not going burn down a Pakistani KFC, but when push comes to shove, I'll be in the closet, where a man is an empty overcoat.

We obviously are fervently in favour of freedom of expression BUT looking at this one, we don’t see anything as being expressed except a kind of hurtfulness toward Muslims,

How much do you want to bet that they have all kinds of antisemitic and Christian-lampooning material on their shelves right now? Any Canuk lizards with a little time want to check one of their stores?

So far north their testicles have either frozen off or retracted...

just one question:

ever published a picture of the dung madonna or the piss Christ? a glowing review of da vinci code or last tempatation of Christ?

or anything else that mocks or distresses Christianity or Judaism?

I've already written a couple of angry emails to these appeasers and traitors to western civ!

I bet they didn't have any scruples when stocking the Rolling Stone with Kayne West on the cover as Christ!

Friggin effin hypocrites of our society..

Is it not enough that we are going to have a full fledged war with the Islamic world (and rightly so) but we also have to fight the leftist traitors in our midst who are doing their damned best to enslave whether in Orwellian terms or Islamic terms!

Posterity will not look good on these gutless scumbags!

It must be nice to be able to hide your fears under an oh-so-respectable cloak of 'tolerance.'

What a Canadian. (No offense to Canadians with spines).

I can't wait for Steyn's commentary on this. It should be priceless.

“We feel there is nothing to gain on the side of freedom of expression and much to lose on the side of hurting feelings,” he said.“We just thought we would take a pass on this.”

How in the hell do these people sleep at night?

threats by Islamist groups to have them prosecuted for “hate crimes.”

Help me out here, please.

The cartoons are all about Mohammed. Supposing I knew absolutely nothing about Mohammed before seeing these cartoons, I might logically come to the conclusion that Mohammed was a bastard of the first order and now I hate him. Setting aside the stupidity of hating a dead guy, why does it matter if I hate a guy who's been dead for 1300 years and why should someone be held accountable for this hatred?

For the record, I think dear old Mo was a murdering pedophile who inspires the jihadis, who I would like to see dead. I thought that before the cartoons were ever drawn and will think that as long as I draw breath.

Oh crap, I just committed a hate crime.

Meanwhile, the Egyptians think they're insulting the Danish Queen by photo shopping her on the front page of the newspaper
All Is Fair in Love and War

I don't know why anyone would get worked up over this. This bookstore is only doing the decent thing. Clearly, Muslims are offended by these drawings. Why would anyone, with any compassion, want to intentionally offer for sale in their store materials that they know for a fact, others would find offensive.

Incidentally, have you seen how much McNally Robinson is charging for the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?

At 63 bucks a pop, I might clear out my inventory of The Turner Diaries and sell these babies myself.

oh yeah a bookstore: all kinds of good stuff I am sure, none of which is hurtful.

it is hurtful only because _ they_ will hurt you!

so feel free to let the rest stay on your shelves and racks

Cowards. Base and vile cowards. We need to shove them aside lest they interfere with what we have to do to resist islamic tyranny.

How in the hell do these people sleep at night?

With a ball gag in their mouths.

The cartoons are offensive to many individuals, he added.

But... but... I am not one of those many offended individuals!

Now I'm truly offended by that idiot speaking on my "behalf"?!

#11 paint-right

I'm willing to bet that they've got depictions of Big Mo for sale right now in some book or another.

In other news: In the next general election Canadians will vote to replace the leaf on their nation's flag. It will be a hotly contested race. One side favors the olive branch as a sign of appeasement to its growing Muslim minority. The other side favors the fig leaf as a representation of Canada hiding its balls. The "olive branchers" argue that the fig leaf, if properly represented on the flag, will be very, very small, yet the olive branch will be quite large and very obvious to all who look to the flag as a symbol of the heart and soul of the nation rather than as a demonstration of the fortitude of its genitalia.

And the Baron has declared a humor war... some of the jokes...

I Don't See the Humour in That

These people have to lighten up...oh, that's right, they blow up instead

we don’t see anything as being expressed except a kind of hurtfulness toward Muslims

Bullcrap! These Canucks have never heard the term "newsworthy" before? These cartoons are causing mass riots and even death throughout the Middle East and Europe, and this dillhole can't think of any purpose for their being published other than a concerted effort to "hurt Muslims"? Like the idea that there might be curious people out there who actually want to see what the fuss is about never crossed his mind?

The left's one and only contribution to humanity - the word offensive, along with their warped perspective on how it's defined.

This is much like an example of parenting these days. If the kiddies whine you back off just to maintain the peace. Of course the kiddies soon run the family.

a kind of hurtfullnes against Muslims

Is it a different kind of hurtfullness than say, stoning? or amputating? or beheading?

Is that what's meant by nuance? I'm confused

#9 Earth2moonbat

Any Canuk lizards with a little time want to check one of their stores?

I've never set foot in a McNally Robinson Booksellers before and don't intend to start now. However, Chapters/Indigo is also pulling this edition. I think I'll head over tomorrow and see what kind of hypocracy they're practising.

Every year American booksellers have a week when they display previously banned books. Window displays, tables with the books as you walk in the store. Takes no courage to display a book once banned but no longer banned, especially when the ban didn't include riots or death sentences, and the whole thing involved other people.

By the way, all the bookstores mentioned in the post have websites with links asking for feedback.

Actually, I find my own last post offensive. I neglected to include negative within the context of contribution.

Now that is one BIG BUT!

#31 Stringart

Just look at my #19.

#18 dymphna

Meanwhile, the Egyptians think they're insulting the Danish Queen by photo shopping her on the front page of the newspaper

Who knew Her Majesty was a prophet?

#24 powderfinger

interesting thought like in Dante's Inferno as illustrated by dali or in some treatise or other about tolerating world religions.

besides no one knows what he looked like!
they say they fear idolotry but their reaction is idolotrous!

And my new Prime Minister, a supposed conservative, has released a statement to the effect that nothing positive would come of publishing the cartoons.

Conservative, my ass. I'm so ashamed.

Something has to occupy the Canuck reporters' times until the new Vice PM accidentally shoots a duck hunter...

#9 EarthToMoonbat:

How much do you want to bet that they have all kinds of antisemitic and Christian-lampooning material on their shelves right now? Any Canuk lizards with a little time want to check one of their stores?

Almost no center or right-wing books. (Occasionally one sneaks through that they fail to notice, that's my hypothesis anyway.)
Lots of left-wing Michael Moore type stuff.
Lots of anti-American hate stuff.

“We feel there is nothing to gain on the side of freedom of expression and much to lose on the side of hurting feelings,” he said.

I emailed them: They've lost a customer. I also told them they're only doing it because they're scared. And pointed out their hypocrisy.

More books from Amazon.com (not .ca).

ONG-d, its the dreaded BUT

#18 dymphna

That's supposed to be insulting? I'd pay someone to photoshop me like that!

/Calling PDM! Is PDM in the house?

;-)

Salmon Rushdie's book is carried at Borders Books.

Where is the outrage?

#36 Nuclear Tinkerbell--

Yeah, the Danes said they thought it was a compliment and that their caricatures of her are not nearly as kind.

Some insult.

I'm hurt by Edward Said's anti-semitism, Noam Chomsky's hateful anti-American screeds and Michael Moore's anti-Christian piffle. I expect these pieces of drivel that offend me will be pulled from Chapters and Indigo immediately.

#42 littleoldlady

Sandmonkey thought it was a cut and paste job, not a phtoshop. In the paper it looks like her head is going to fall off. He doesn't think they've ever heard of photoshop...

I'd love to take up a collection and send that man a digital camera. He describes things but he has no camera to take the pictures. His blog would really take off.

And we need good Egyptian bloggers

Bullcrap!

I prefer the term el toro poopoo, as it's much more refined and bilingual to boot.

/well, more or less bilingual...it at least sounds Spanish.

#45 Truth Dr.

Pssst! _{You forgot Chutch!}

I have more time for more cartoons. Their viewing seems to remove the veil of lies that the radical muslims like to cloak the western msm in. These cartoons expose the malignant narcissim of Western liberals. Hugh Hewitt seems to think these are not newsworthy things to expose. He is constantly laboring for the truth, but in this case is side stepping the truth. He thinks the cartoons cause flames, when all they really do is reveal flames.

Just found this at [Link: www.michellemalkin.com...]
Sorry if someone already posted the story.

Daily Illini Editors Suspended For 'Toons...

CHAMPAIGN, Ill. -- Two editors at the University of Illinois student-run newspaper were suspended Tuesday for their decision to run a series of cartoons that have sparked outrage and violence around the Islamic world.
Editor-in-chief Acton H. Gorton said the Daily Illini's publisher suspended him and the newspaper's opinions sections editor, Charles Prochaska, for two weeks pending the outcome of an internal investigation. "I'm very disappointed. I think this is nothing more than a cover-up," Gorton said.

Daily Illini managing editor Shira Weissman would not comment on the situation Tuesday. A telephone message left with the newspaper's publisher, Mary Cory, was not immediately returned. The paper's editorial staff told readers in Monday's editions that the decision to run the cartoons was made by Gorton and Prochaska without their knowledge.

While the staff apologized to the Muslim community, it stopped short of saying it disagreed with the decision. "We want to make it clear that while we do not necessarily disagree with the decision to print these cartoons, we disagree with how they were run," the editorial reads.

According to the editorial, Gorton and Prochaska ran the cartoons without consulting the staff or the publisher and "behind the backs of those who are being significantly affected by its fallout."

Gorton and Prochaska ran their own editorial Monday, defending their decision to reprint the cartoons, and even called "irresponsible" the decision by major newspapers around the country not to publish the cartoons. Gorton said on Tuesday that other editors were in the same room when the cartoons were laid out on the newspaper's pages and did not object. He also said he continues to stand by the decision to publish the cartoons.

"What defines a Canadian best? It must be the lurking fear that somewhere, somehow, you might have offended someone." — Margaret Wente (a rare reality-based Canadian MSM columnist).

"Western Standard"(s) are slipping, obviously.

The bottom line is that if it wasn't one of the LLL mascot groups with the hurt feelings, they would never, ever even think about weighing gains of freedom of expression against the feelings.

And I begin to wonder if they recognize their own double standard.

#49 hazzyday

Damn shame. Seems to me the most newsworthy part is the fact that a certain "religion" will kill over these benign images, and our media will forfeit their Freedom of Speech rather than cover it objectively.

I have to go to Chapters/Indigo tomorrow and ask for the Western Standard, and start complaining loudly that they don't have it.

Shame on you, Heather Reisman (the owner).

Maybe I'll go and complain to the Manager about books I find offensive, such as anything by Michael Moore.

The URL for sending a help request for their online store is
[Link: www.chapters.indigo.ca...]
If enough people ask for help in getting acopy of The Western Standard, Chapters-Indigo may learn something useful.

#46 dymphna

In the paper it looks like her head is going to fall off.

Okay. I'll guess I'll have to take a pass on that part. :-) The point is, for people who've made a centuries-long career out of being insulted, they have no clue as to what's insulting to us.

OT

Did anyone else catch that barking moonbat San Fransico city councileman, on Hannity and Colms. Newsflash according to him the US doesn't need a military, he made Alan look like a hawk.

OT

Did anyone else catch that barking moonbat San Fransico city councileman, on Hannity and Colms. Newsflash according to him the US doesn't need a military, he made Alan look like a hawk.

"Everybody I know has a big but. lets talk about your big but Simone."

Today censors may be coming for some Mohammed cartoons; tomorrow it is your words and ideas they will silence
by Jeff Jacoby
We are all Danes now!
[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

Some fuckball from San Fran's board of commissioners was just on Hannity & Colmes talking about why he's against the U.S.S. Iowa museum project for that city.

While admitting that the ship contributed to our freedom once upon a time and far away, he flat-out said that the main reason he doesn't want it on the waterfront is because - gasp! - it has GUNS on it.

He then went on to say that in his august pacifictic pussy opinion, the United States should not have a military.

Charles, you gotta put this up. It's beyond stupid. This kind of purblindness verges on an insane brilliance.

He's brilliantly stuck on stupid.

57 58

Double post my bad, hangs head in shame

#56 littleoldlady

You're absolutely right. That's why jokes don't travel well...you have to understand the culture. So it's the same with insults.

Remember the old blessing joke:

"I pray that your house will be safe from tigers."

"But I've never had a problem with tigers!"

"See, my prayers are working."

Hmmm...somehow I think all our own "artistes" have beat them to the punch with the Jesus "art" meant to insult those who see it.

Doesn't leave them much, does it?

May your car break down on the interstate just as your cell phone battery dies...

That ought to do it.

From the Western Standard website:

NEWSFLASH: Current Issue: Many Canadian retailers have declined to stock the Feb. 27 issue of the Western Standard due to the controversy over the Danish editorial cartoons. If you'd like to purchase a copy, please contact the Western Standard at (403) 216-2270 to have one shipped to you directly.

http://www.westernstandard.ca/website/index.cfm

“We feel there is nothing to gain on the side of freedom of expression and much to lose on the side of hurting feelings

I think the only hurting they are concerned with is the hurting the Jihadies will put on their ass if the carry the "Cartoons of Infamy".

I think someone ought to point out to the Western Standard that the bookstore that won't sell their magazine unabashadly sells the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Why don't the news media and store owners just be honest:

"While we support freedom of speech and would usually not censor newsworthy material, we are scared out of our wits of offending the violent jihadists. We do not want to place any of our reporters or employees in any more danger, especially those who have to travel and report from the home countries of the jihadists.

Sadly, we live in a time where the right to free speech has to be balanced against violent extortion against anyone even remotely associated with the speech. We do not feel we are in a position to ask every employee of ours, as well as their family members, and possibly even our audience/clients, to risk their lives and personal safety. Therefore, we regrettably must submit to the censorship. We hope those who disagree at least can empathize with our predicament."

OT - sorry for the OT, but has any one been to Cancun in person recently? How recovered is it from Wilma? Worth going? Any hotels that are back at full steam?

# 61 Cato the Elder

Well if we actually prosecuted acts of treason the remaining traitors would only try to be more careful in their acts of treason.

[Les is being silly as usual.]

OT: Guess Big Willy couldnt find enough time to attend to this between BJ's from Monica: [or why we should give a chance to Hillary to fight the WOT...

Weldon: 'Able Danger' ID'd 9/ll Ringleader

By KIMBERLY HEFLING, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Pre-Sept. 11 intelligence conducted by a secret military unit identified terrorist ringleader Mohamed Atta 13 different times, a congressman said Tuesday.

During a Capitol Hill news conference, Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said the unit — code-named "Able Danger" — also identified "a problem" in Yemen two weeks before the attack on the USS Cole. It knew the problem was tied into the port of Aden and involved a U.S. platform, but the ship commander was not made aware of it, Weldon said.

The suicide bombing of the Cole killed 17 sailors on Oct. 12, 2000.

If anyone had told the Cole's commander that there was any indication of a problem in Aden, "he would not have gone there," Weldon told reporters. "He had no clue."

Weldon would not say who provided evidence of such intelligence to him.

Since August, Weldon, vice chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, has pushed Congress and the Pentagon to investigate the workings of Able Danger, which used data mining to identify links that might indicate the workings of terrorists. If he is correct, it would change the timeline for when government officials first became aware of Atta's links to al-Qaida.

Former members of the Sept. 11 commission have dismissed Weldon's findings

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Gotta love those big CA butts!

JammieWearingFool

Hey JWF, Just heard from Mr B's daughter (FLHS teacher) . She'll tell her Dad you said hi. She's not sure she'll remember such a vague description, but she'll pass it along.

cheers
TSGMF_USA

OT, to those who are interested in participating in polls: foxnews has a poll
Should the U.S. stop sending financial aid to the Palestinian Authority while Hamas is in charge?
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I'll bet they proudly displayed that cover that showed Kanye West as Jesus, though!

I think I'll order up a copy of Farenheit 451!

OT, but related (to dhimmitude).

I was just watching Hannity and Colmes on Fox News. They were debating the issue of whether my beloved city of San Francisco should adopt the battleship USS Iowa as a floating museum; as far as I am concerned, there are logical arguments on both sides of that issue. However, while interviewing a San Francisco city councilman named Gerardo Sandoval, Mr. Sandoval volunteered his opinion that the United States should not have a military.

Not that we should have a smaller military, or that the military should not intervene in overseas conflicts, but that the U.S. should not have a military, period.

Even Alan Colmes, the show's designated "liberal", was floored by that one, and pressed Sandoval to defend his position. Sandoval argued basically that all the U.S. military does is "attack people in 3rd world countries", or words to that effect, and that America and the world would be a better place if there was no U.S. military. When Colmes asked who Sandoval thought should defend the country, Sandoval replied that "the cops and the Coast Guard" would suffice for that purpose.

This is an elected representative of a major U.S. city. (Do you have to ask which major party he represents?)

If you would like to let councilman Sandoval know what you think about his opinions on national defense, here is his contact information (be civil, please):

Councilman Gerardo Sandoval
City Hall
1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place, Room 244
San Francisco, CA 94102-4689
(415) 554-6975 - voice
(415) 554-6979 - fax
E-mail: Gerardo.Sandoval@sfgov.org

Les, I know you put in the caveat that you're being silly, but I don't think this or other pacifict idiocy rises to the level of "treason," and I've been quick to say so on may occasions here and elsewhere. America wouldn't be worth defending, in my not so humble opinion, if such things were considered treasonous.

The whole "traitors" meme is the Ann Coulter version of stuck-on-stupid.

That does not mean such people should not be pilloried as pillocks, ridiculed as rascals or contemned as cretins.

Hey, my home town made LGF headlines, cool. That's certainly the biggest and best bookstore in town, but I'm kind of having second thoughts about frequenting the place after this BS.

These fecking Utopian Socialists are so hypocritical and blind its infuriating.

CATO 61

I heard one of the backers for that project (the turning of a military vessel into a museum for san fransisco) talking to one of the patriot radio guys. He admitted that they were NOT interested in the item (the decorated vessel) until it occurred to them that they could turn it into a museum of SUFFERINGS from the military. People could walk through the ship and see exhibits from various peoples who have been oppressed by our unfortunate power until... violaaa you end up at the gays. The organizers were hopeful that by the time the ship was ready for visitors, it could be presented as a TRIUMPHANT foe of the past.

Isn't it time we test America's spine? Let's see if the papers are but a carcass or if they have one last gasp of relevance. Print a toon or two.

#19 Piltdown Man

Amazon.com has an interesting note: A special note from Amazon.com

A special note from Amazon.com
April 6, 2000

As some readers may be aware, a hoax e-mail has been circulating widely that falsely claims Amazon.com has favorably reviewed this book. This allegation is, of course, absolutely untrue. Nevertheless, this rumor has become so widespread on the Internet that it's already a recognized "urban legend," just like alligators living in the sewers. Amazon.com obviously does not endorse The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. This book is one of the most infamous, and tragically influential, examples of racist propaganda ever written. It may be useful to some as a tool in the teaching of the history of anti-Semitism, but it's unquestionably propaganda.

Does Amazon.com sell this book? Of course we do, along with millions of other titles. The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is classified under "controversial knowledge" in our store, along with books about UFOs, demonic possession, and all manner of conspiracy theories. You can also find books in other sections of Amazon.com's online bookstore that analyze The Protocols' fraudulent origins and its tragic historical role in promoting anti-Semitism and Jewish persecution, including A Lie and a Libel: The History of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Should Amazon.com sell The Protocols and other controversial works? As a bookseller, Amazon.com strongly believes that providing open access to written speech, no matter how hateful or ugly, is one of the most important things we do. It's a service that the United States Constitution protects, and one that follows a long tradition of booksellers serving as guardians of free expression in our society.

Not all countries view these issues the same way. And one of our greatest challenges is to work cooperatively with other governments to respect their laws without compromising our core values of free expression and free exchange of information--values that the Internet embodies on a global scale.

Nevertheless, Amazon.com believes it is censorship not to sell certain books because we believe their message repugnant, and we would be rightly criticized if we did so. Therefore, we will continue to make this book and other controversial works available in the United States and everywhere else, except where they are prohibited by law.

Furthermore, because we strongly believe that the appropriate response to repugnant speech is not censorship, but more speech, we will continue to allow readers, authors, and publishers to express their views about the books and other products we offer on our Web site.

We hope we have eliminated any confusion surrounding this book. If you happened to be one of the many who received the infamous e-mail, we would appreciate it if you would pass this along to your friends. It is very hurtful to everyone at Amazon.com to be accused of racism.

Thank you for your consideration.

#73 EE

Vote often vote early

All the chickens in the chickenyard gathered together and began to cluck:

"ButButButBUUUTButBut..."

And they thought they sounded so wise, to all the other chickens. So they began to flap their wings - even though they couldn't fly - and ran around in circles clucking and squawking:

"ButButButBUUUTButBut..."

And they all felt so good about themselves, running around in the dust and the feathers clucking and squawking.

Really OT: G'kar Passes Beyond the Rim

[Link: www.scifi.com...]

Babylon 5's Katsulas Dies

Andreas Katsulas, the character actor known to SF fans as G'Kar on Babylon 5 and a familiar face from Star Trek and other SF&F TV shows, died Feb. 13 of lung cancer in Los Angeles, his agent, Donna Massetti, confirmed to SCI FI Wire. He was 59.

Katsulas, a longtime resident of Los Angeles, played the Narn ambassador G'Kar for five years in the syndicated cult TV series Babylon 5, starting in 1993. He reprised the role in subsequent Babylon 5 telefilms.

Katsulas was also no stranger to Trek fans, playing Romulan Cmdr. Tomalak in Star Trek: The Next Generation. His last appearance in a Trek series was as a Vissian captain on an episode of Enterprise.

Born in St. Louis, Katsulas held a master's degree in theater from Indiana University, his official Web site said. After performing in plays in St. Louis, New York and Boston, he went on to film roles in such movies as Michael Cimino's The Sicilian, which brought him to Los Angeles, then in Ridley Scott's Someone to Watch Over Me and Blake Edward's Sunset.

Katsulas moved to Los Angeles permanently in 1986 and found scores of television and film parts in everything from TV's Alien Nation and Max Headroom to the big screen's The Fugitive, in which he played the infamous one-armed man, and Executive Decision opposite Kurt Russell and Steven Seagal.

Information on memorial services was pending at press time.

Perhaps we could let them know what hypocrites they are for selling the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion but refusing to stock the Western Standard's Danish cartoon edition...

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When I was a kid, debates about cartoon violence focused on the shenanigans of Tom and Jerry and Road Runner vs. Wile E. Coyote. Lots of parallels in the news these days. The ones that come to mind are...

ACME Products, Mainstream Media
Bugs Bunny, George W Bush
Yosemite Sam, Hamas
Marvin the Martian, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Daffy Duck, BDS infected lefties at Kos, DU..

and sorry, but this one is too perfect...
Elmer Fudd, Dick Cheney

it's just so hard to know when insane people are going to have their feelings hurt.

I'm still trying to hoping to see a very shallow, dense airmass from Nunavut to North Texas this weekend, and then have warm Pacific air over-run it to create snow that will melt before it gets near the ground, only to super-chill but remain liquid so the shock of hitting your car, powerlines, tree branches, blades of grass, etc will cause the super-cooled rain drops to phase change to ice.

18Z GFS still shows surface temps around 2º, but we all know the GFS doesn't really have the resolution to really judge shallow, dense, cold air masses.

-38º in Eurkea, Nunavut. A balmy -3º at Point Barrow. OK, that sounds cold, but it probably hit -3º Monday morning in my backyard, and my orange tree survived. Warm in Alaska, cold air building in Nunavut.

Now, nothing super-major, lucky if 15 mm of liquid falls the whole weekend, so no trees crashing down on powerlines and through roofs.

Not a lead pipe cinch, no big colored letters, yet.

It still looks like while it'll be all dramatic in Chicago when it does happen, the rain changes to snow too late to get school cancellation snows for Friday. But I haven't given up all hope.

G'kar was one of TV's best characters ever!
Long Live Babylon 5!

#19 Piltdown Man

Don't get undersold.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Ann Coulter on the cartoon reaction
[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

87 Ed Mahmoud

18Z GFS still shows surface temps around 2º, but we all know the GFS doesn't really have the resolution to really judge shallow, dense, cold air masses.

Ed, I really hope you guys get some snow BUT I'm guessing you're probably the only one who even knows what GFS even stands for, let alone anything about its resolution to really judge shallow, dense, cold air masses. But I do enjoy reading the reports.

I wonder what would happen if these book stores found out at opening time,that someone had taped large copies of the cartoons on their windows? and maybe on the newspaper boxes that are so prevalent in the big cities as well. Just wondering. A job for the midnight skulker?

Time for activating the B response all my fellow Canadians - boycott, boycott, boycott.
The amazing thing is that the Indigo/Chapters/Cole chains are owned by a Jewish couple and if they are worried about losing Islamic custom they can forget it unless they expect to stock Korans. Islamics don't read books.
BTW bought a large Danish flag today and it will be unfurled outside the house tomorrow.

#57 Black_Heart684
#61 Cato
#75 gunslingah

The city council, the mayor, the social club

A few years ago I took my kids to show them where I used to live on Sacramento St. and there happened to be a man stumbling across the street in front of our car. Then we went to our hotel on Union St and feared for our lives til we got in the lobby.

It's painful to se what they've done. It's liberalism run amuck

16 Ned the Red  

How in the hell do these people sleep at night?

With teddy bears.

#54 christheprofessor "Seems to me the most newsworthy part is the fact that a certain "religion" will kill over these benign images, and our media will forfeit their Freedom of Speech rather than cover it objectively."
Absolutely spot on. Even if you changed what you said "those benign" to those "disgusting" the main thought remains the same; the medial will forfeit their Freedom of Speech rather than cover it."

...funny how one hears the word BUT from the mouths of lefties so often...you can always see 'em coming too. "yes, of course, but"

I can take the odd moonbat like the one in front of the Danish parliament. I expect the EU to act in such a craven manner, but I am absolutely horrified that Chapters and the McNally's have taken this action, stabbing Ezra Levant in the back, when he has the balls to publish these silly cartoons. And our new Convervative government have offerd virtually no moral support to Denmark, giving only milqutoast statements..

We left something like 50,000 men in graveyards throughout Europe in WWII alone, and now we are pissing away our freedoms to these brownshirts in beards.

I think I will have to have Tuborg before retiring this evening.

Davd Warren picks this story up eloquently:

David Warren

To be fair, A brief search of the Chapters website indicates that it does not sell The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or Mein Kampf either. Thus, if in the mind of Indigo (Chapters and Coles) the 12 cartoons cartoons constitute hate speech, then it seems to be adhering to a corporate policy of not selling hate speech. In my view, this policy os laudible. However...

To be honest, to elevate the innocuous 12 cartoons to the level of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or Mein Kampf, or indeed to any standard of hate speech, is absurd. I do believe this to be a cowardly act by Indigo (Chapters and Coles), and one aimed at stifling free speech. Shame on Indigo (Chapters and Coles).

I am not surprised at all. I am Canadian and when I went to get Robert Spencer’s new book, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades, I found that although the Chapters web site said they carried it no actual location had a copy. When I asked if they would ever be getting a copy of the book they said I should try to get it through the web site (so I did). I am sure they still don’t carry it despite the fact that it was on the New York Times bestseller list for many weeks. There is NO freedom of speech in Al Canada. Politically correct thought police are every were waiting to jump on anyone who espouses a different point of view. Radial leftists are aloud to rant and rave incessantly but anyone mildly center is considered a racist Nazi. It took years of the worst political scandals Canada has ever seen to elect a conservative government and when they did it was a minority government. Canada is a haven for Jihadi Muslims, Chinese supremacists, old school communists, and die-hard socialists. In Canada western civilization is EVIL, white men are EVIL, and most especially, EVERY THING American is EVIL. You cannot trust us. Canada will NOT be there for you if they are needed. We have and will continue to abandon you at your hour of need.

#19 Pittdown man
don't be ludicrous man ,
I'll bet that bookstore has plenty of rags that underscore the topics of Hard Sex, Drug use, Criminality, Murder, and anti Christian - anti semetitism , that are even more offensive to more people , but they manage to remain on the shelves ...right ?

We either have freedom of speech or we don't there are no half measures about it ! :-)

Snowdawg speaks the truth. I'd wear a Mohammed-bomber t-shirt to the grocery store, but the truth is the Mohammedans wouldn't have to beat me up; the police would be there to drag me off to jail for hate crimes before I even got to the checkout aisle. Canada is a half-dead corpse, and the only part still twitching is out in the West (not coincidentally, where the magazine that's printing the Dreaded Cartoons is based). I'm trying to figure out a way to get rich so I can bail out of here and take my family to the U.S. before it's too late.

Huh - "half-dead corpse" doesn't quite make sense. Well, half-dead near-corpse, then. You know what I mean.

MOST OF MY RELATIVES HAVE NEVER SEEN THE PICTURES

people say "oh you can see them on the internet" well no not for most of my family who is not computer savvy.

the media is refusing to allow people to learn and understand the conflict. what is the conflict? People are told "because they are offensive" but we are not shown the pictures, cannot make up our minds about them, and aren't told the full story: that most of them don't make fun of Muslims, Islam, or have Mohammed in them at all, and they were printed to prove you can draw pictures (not necessarily designed to be crass) without fear for your life.

Not only should we fear for our lives, but we can't rely on the press to tell us the truth.

for those criticizing #19 Piltdown Man

he is joking:
saying they should take offensive material off the shelves, and then pointing they sell the Protocols as if they are not offensive.

pointing out the obvious double standard of the bookstore.

You want to talk about Canadian hate crimes? Here is Mo Elmasry, self-appointed head of the "Canadian Islamic Congress" on the Michael Coren Show (19.10.04):

ELMASRY: That's why we saying that totally innocent people...

COREN: OK.

ELMASRY: ... and totally innocent people, obviously, is the children. But they are not innocent if they are part of a population which is total population of Israel is part of the army... From 18 on, they are part of the soldiers, even if they have civilian clothes.

COREN: So if Israeli children are killed, that is a valid use of military force by Palestinians?

ELMASRY: No, they are not valid...

COREN: So what are you saying?

ELMASRY: I'm saying that it has to be totally innocent, OK? Totally innocent are the children, obviously, OK? But they are not innocent if the army [inaudible] in civilian clothes, OK?

COREN: What about women?

ELMASRY: The same, if they are women in the army...

COREN: Anyone over the age of 18 in Israel is a valid target.

ELMASRY: Anybody above 18 is a part of the Israeli army...

COREN: So everyone in Israel and anyone and everyone in Israel, irrespective of gender, over the age of 18 is a valid target?

ELMASRY: Yes, I would say.

[BREAK.]

COREN: We're back on the Michael Coren Show...

ELMASRY: But Michael, really, the definition of terrorism is really a means to an end, which is actually ending terrorism, either by a group or an individual or a state...

COREN: It sounds like sophistry to me, actually.

ELMASRY: No, no, it's true; it's true. I mean I would like to wake up one day and there is no terror either by state...

COREN: You mean you'd like to win?

ELMASRY: No, I would like actually for the conflict to stop, for the aggressor to stop the aggression, OK? So does this mean that, for example, when you look at any conflict, there is an aggressor and their victims...

COREN: Not as simplistic as that, I think.

COREN: I've got to tell you I think you've just dug a very large hole for yourself there. I am not unsympathetic, and I do believe that Israelis use way too much force and I believe that Palestinians are blanketed with the term "terrorist," which is very unfair, but what you've said there, I believe, is very dangerous talk. There's a massive difference.

ELMASRY: Everybody above 18 is a combatant.

And the Halton Region police would not press hate speech charges against Elmasry yet, ironically, notwithstanding this Jew-hater advocates terrorist murders of Israeli Jews, he is now suggesting that the CIC will attempt to have Calgary police charge the WS with the same charge. Chutzpah, anyone?

Pussies.

Is Saskatoon marked in as part of the Ummah on the maps marked "finished business" or "in progress". I need to know in case we ever go camping up there. My wife will need to bring a head scarf if it's "finished business"

The font for the BUT should be at least twice as big. You illustrate absurdity with absurdity.

The owner of Indigo/Chapters , Heather Reisman, is a Jew and has some influence on the books she sells. For instance, she refuses to sell Hitler's "Mein Kampf". She has also minimised her selection of Christian books. Now she wants to avoid being targetted by Islamofascists. Is any of this a surprise?

The problem for the cowardly West (not just Jewish bookstore or search-engine owners) is going to be how to preserve intellectual freedom without being targeted by muslims or media dhimmis. In many instances recently, dhimmis cave because they just don't see the importance of freedom of speech. Heather doesn't understand that her reduced selection of books is affecting the ability of her customers to learn. That's why her bookstores are so dull and boring. If we can't learn about creative Christian thinking or repressive Islamic thought (today), what's to stop future restrictions on studying agriculture, creation, astronomy, addictions, or sexuality? Freedom of expression can be really irritating, but it's essential for finding the truth; neither the muslims nor the dhimmis accept this.

And before you know it, Google will be restricting freedom of ideas. Oh, I forgot. Google is there already.

Thanks for the e-mail addresses stuiec.

My e-mail to all four read as follows:

Good afternoon,

I just wanted to thank you for making me ashamed to be Canadian today. Your gutless refusal to sell the Western Standard containing the Danish cartoons is so hypocritical especially when you carry 'Protocols Of The Meetings Of The Learned'

Today I have learned just how much your company values free speech. You are doing a disservice to Canadians by not showing them these very mild cartoons. When I've shown them to my co-workers, they have just stood there shocked saying 'They are rioting over these?'

And next time, don't lie to us when choose to suppress free speech. I'd have so much more respect for you if your company just came out and said 'Muslims are committing horrible acts of violence in order to suppress free speech and our company doesn't want to go through the trouble of having to worry if our stores will be firebombed if we carry these cartoons.'

It was nice doing business with you. I won't again. And you need to be checking out the blogosphere because your company is being taken to task over this issue on many right wing sites and many feel as I do.

Former customer,
my name

Others, please follow.

Canadian Infidel

I live a 10-minute drive from McNally-Robinson books. When I actually want to buy a book, I click to Amazon.ca, and the desired book appears at my door in a few days, like magic. No gasoline burned by me, no mall ingress/egress aggravation, time saved to do other things. I'm sure they'd like my business, but I don't need them, as nice and as worthy a venture as their bookshops are otherwise. Their spinelessness over the Western Standard just helps make it easier not to go there.

The owner is Paul McNally at:

paul@grant.mcnallyrobinson.ca

I've written my displeasure and contempt for his chain's actions. And, no, I won't be shopping there in the future.

Interesting response (at bottom) and my reply to it:

Dear Ms. Boschmann,

Thank you for your reply to my e-mail.

I am puzzled by your response, however. You single out the Western Standard issue containing material offensive to Muslims, saying that your company's philosophy is "yes to freedom of expression, no to freedom of gratuitous provocation."

Why, then, can I order from your website these titles:

- Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler?
- Churchill's War, by (noted Holocaust denier) David Irving?
- Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion, a noted anti-Semitic forgery by Sergiei Nilius?

Is your company's policy to avoid gratuitous provocation of Muslims, but to turn a blind eye to the gratuitous provocation of Jews?

Again, I reiterate that I do not believe you should drop the titles I mentioned from your catalog, but rather that you exhibit courage and commitment to free expression of ideas by carrying the current issue of the Western Standard as you would any other issue of the that publication.

Best regards,

Stuart Creque
116 Donald Drive
Moraga, CA 94556
USA
phone (510) 377-4658
fax (925) 631-0598
screque@sbcglobal.net

---Original Message---
From: colleen boschmann [mailto:colleen@calgary.mcnallyrobinson.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:32 PM
To: screque@sbcglobal.net
Subject: McNally Robinson Booksellers

Dear Mr. Creque,

I would like to thank you for taking the time to write the McNally Robinson Website.

The decision not to carry this month's Western Standard was a difficult decision as freedom of speech is such a valuable tenet.

The McNallys feel that selling this issue would be deemed offensive by Muslims and that it does not serve freedom of expression to flout Muslim sensibilities.

In fact, since the cartoons have been widely (exhaustively) discussed, and are available to the curious on the internet, it is the McNally's position that carrying this particular magazine would not be 'expressing' anything except the symbolic (and in this case offensive) right to express whatever we want.

In a nutshell, the McNally's stand is: yes to freedom of expression, no to freedom of gratuitous provocation.

Best regards,

Colleen Boschmann
General Manager
McNally Robinson Booksellers
120 8th Ave SW
Calgary, Alberta
T2P 1B3
Ph: (403)538-1802 Ext 221
Fax: (403)538-1805

..kind of hurtfulness toward Muslims...

Anyone remember this and how much it hurt how many people died.