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Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 8:31:31 am PST

Muslims are increasingly using easily available scripts to launch hacking attacks against web sites that criticize Islam; Michelle Malkin has been targeted: The Islamists’ War on the Internet.

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1 piano gal  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:32:29am

Goodbye freedom of speech.

2 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:32:46am

Charles, any sign that you have been attacked, failed attempt or not?

3 ggt  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:32:54am

Charles, are you sufficiently protected?

4 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:32:55am
5 Charles  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:34:31am

Yes, LGF has been attacked several times. Our original move to a dedicated server (last year) was because of a persistent DoS attack originating in Southeast Asia.

6 Black George Bush  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:34:33am

Barbarrians at the Gates of LGF.

7 Black George Bush  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:36:39am

Would you say Charles that lately its been mainly increased traffic rather than DoS attacks that have caused recent interruptions?

8 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:37:07am

Curse Al Gore for inventing the internet & not thinking of protecting it from attacks like this!

9 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:37:18am

I figured maybe that was behind some of the recent problems here.

It's time to launch cyberwarfare against these scumbags and melt down their computers.

10 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:37:19am

All you websites are belonging to us.

11 SevoGuy  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:37:28am

One day the headline will read: Islams War on the United States Constitution.

They are starting with doing away with FREE SPEECH.

From this day forward I will view my September 11, 2001 photo's and video clips each and every day.

There is an e-mail going around that contains the muhammad cartoons that these CREEPS are all up in arms about. If you receive it in your e-mail, please forward it to everyone you know. The goal: 1 billion e-mails worldwide.

12 friarstale  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:38:25am

Islam cannot survive if people know the truth of it

Call me naive, call me overly optimistic, but I think Islam is in its death throes

13 bianchi_roadie  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:39:05am

#4 American Infidel

Is there no way to block their access?!?

You can block IP addresses (or blocks of addresses), but that gets every user, even those with legitimate traffic. It's just too easy to get a script that tries a well-known attack and run it from some host (either knowingly, or using a "zombie" - previously cracked system know under the control of an attacker).

The best solution is to lock down the target, make sure everything is backed up and all software has up-to-date patches, restrict access, and blackhole known troublesome IP addresses.

14 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:39:09am

If we'd only let Kofi run the Internet, none of this would be happening!

/

15 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:39:11am
16 sevoguy  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:39:12am

Your Naive

17 zombie  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:39:21am

I have been seriously targetted too. Had a DDOS attack from Turkey. Just in the last hour I've been reverse-spammed with dozens of viruses from these email domain addresses:

smtp2.ste.net.sy
alesta.sbs.com.tr
easynet.co.uk
touchtelindia.net

Looks like they're coming from Syria, Turkey, Britain and India today (all countries with large populations of Muslims).

Every day the attacks come from new countries: Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Jordan, UAE, etc.

It's craziness.

18 friarstale  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:40:17am

16
Thank you!

19 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:40:36am
20 jason97m  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:40:44am

I say, why let them have all the fun. Does anyone have a listing of websites that might in some way be associated with these attacks? People usually like to brag.

21 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:41:47am
22 zombie  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:41:51am

I'm considering putting online a selection of the jihadi emails I've been getting (as Michelle did in her post). But I've been hesitating to do so, because it's not germane to the Archive.

Still pondering.

23 loppyd  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:42:01am

I am really, really, really sick of these islamo crazies.

24 keepandbear  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:42:47am

jason97m

I think Zombie's got several pages worth.

not gonna ask that question

25 Dan Patterson  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:42:56am

#6 In another time the phrase would have been: "Gooks in the wire".

When fortified encampments can be infiltrated by sappers the position is in danger of becoming a target rather than a refuge. The US and it's nearly unique stance on liberty and freedom might now be in danger of becoming the same thing. Defense against maniacal attacks cannot be mounted if the attackers are being supported from within the fortress!

We are at war. Pick a side.

Dan Patterson
Arrogant Infidel

26 zombie  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:43:55am

OK, just for laughs, here's one from yesterday:

From: "ehsan ebrahimpour"
Subject: shame on you!

Hey who the fucking bitch do u think  you are?

what do you know about mohammad?

what do you know about islam?

what do u know about musyou are just some fucking assholes.

sooner or later u will face more more difficulties.

then let is enjoy it.

shame on you.

27 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:44:19am
28 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:44:37am

#15 American Infidel ~

...can't the website that is being attacked 'mirror' the attack and send it to the originator of the attack?!?!?

Ha! That would be great if it could be done! Kind of like a "Return to Sender" force shield that bounces it right back to the senders. =)

29 doppelganglander  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:44:47am

The solution is for everyone, every blog, every media outlet large and small, to post the cartoons. Widespread dissemination of the images will rob them of their power. Plus, the Islamobots can't possibly hack every website.

30 Azure  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:45:32am

They are again making use of western technology that they did not invent and perpetually claim to despise. Hypocrisy is a founding tenet of Islamic terrorism.

# 17 zombie
Those locations are unsurprising aren't they? There are far too many of them. Glad you can repel and defend.

You, too, Charles.

31 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:45:57am
32 mongoose  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:45:59am

Well, internet hacking is somewhat better than the hacking they usually do.

33 Boy Hits Car  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:46:10am

It would be sweet to set up a counter-attacking software that bombards these originating PCs. Maybe servers should get into an offensive posture instead of a defensive one.

34 loppyd  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:46:10am

27 AI

I think some serious shite is coming down the pike...

35 world b. free  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:46:13am

#22 zombie:

Attacks and threats to your ability to exercise freedom of speech in displaying the images on your site is most definitely an issue that is germane to your Archive, imho.

36 CAD Daddy  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:46:20am

Bring 'em on Zombie.

37 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:46:50am
38 galtg  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:47:55am

Qucik ..how can i take a crap on thses muslim lowlifes..don't they know the whole world has ZERO respect for this cult of murder and hate..religion?..i think not

39 bouzouki  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:47:57am

Remember the link to the mohammed bomb-head t-shirt that was posted here a few days ago? Well, he's got mail!

To: MetroSpy
You area bad man.

So how big an area would that be?

To: MetroSpy
Picturing our prophet in such an insulting way is a big disrespectful thing for muslims. this is not a thing about speech. This problem is about honour of people. If you have just little piece of human, dont sell more shirts.

Aw, I like a little piece of human every once in a while...

To: MetroSpy
These T-shirts of prophet Mohammed is not acceptable. Please take it a way. This is like invitation for terorists to attack your country. Islam is very peacful relgion.

Speechless.

40 aaron  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:48:34am

Welcome to the club folks.

What's yours is what you can keep, and that goes for freedom of speech.

We host our site at roughly 18 locations for a reason.

41 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:48:54am

#37 American Infidel ~

LOL ~ for sure!

It is a cool idea!

42 jason97m  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:49:09am

Someone needs to develop a geographic filter

43 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:49:43am
44 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:50:15am

Zombie, you should just publish the most choice of emails - especially the ones where the posters aren't aware of how ridiculous they sound. This line from one of Michelle Malkin's hate mails is a perfect example:

"mohammed have never a face."

The jokes just write themselves!

45 keepandbear  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:50:34am

37 American Infidel

The idea of "Black Ice" was "invented" by the Cyberpunk writers in the Eighties, or even before

46 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:50:43am
47 zombie  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:50:45am
#20 jason97m
Does anyone have a listing of websites that might in some way be associated with these attacks? People usually like to brag.

Some of the mirror site owners have emailed me to say they have been attacked by people associated with this Turkish hackers' forum:

http://www.cyber-security.org/CW/Forum/default.asp " target="_blank">Turkish hackers' forum.

Apparently they are discussing how to attack the Mohammed Image Archive and its mirrors on the boards there, but I don't know Turkish.

48 Greg  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:54:48am

#12 friarstale

Islam cannot survive if people know the truth of it

Call me naive, call me overly optimistic, but I think Islam is in its death throes

...comment...

Could we help it along a little faster...a B-2 bombers, ICBMs and EMP pulse weapons plus tactical nukes on their command and control would be a start...

49 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:55:00am
50 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:55:06am

Can we get the random insults tossed at MM (with * placed in obscenities) as rotating titles?

I just see RT material in

From: monalisa monalisa (monalisa23h@hotmail.com)
To: writemalkin@gmail.com
Mailed-By: hotmail.com
Date: Feb 4, 2006 5:55 PM
Subject: you are filth

the dishonourable the mean the prostitute I'am a müslim and turkish I kill
you devil you are goto the hell sh*t the whore

The letter "i" in the "s" word already asteracized (word?) for good taste.

51 jason97m  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:55:43am

#47 Zombie

Thanks, tips like that can certainly help folks defend themselves...information warfare at it's best...know what your enemy knows and turn it against him.

52 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:56:10am

#22 zombie
Why not? I find it instrumental and enlightening to read what these people are saying. Maybe a link to a page with the emails.

53 zombie  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:57:41am
#33 Boy Hits Car

It would be sweet to set up a counter-attacking software that bombards these originating PCs. Maybe servers should get into an offensive posture instead of a defensive one.

Sadly, that's what the jihadis are already doing to me!

Their technique for (somewhat successfully) shutting down my email, and (unsuccessfully) corrupting my home computer has been to repeatedly send out a huge spam blast with attached viruses but somehow rig it such that MY email address is the return address. So what happens is that MAILER-DAEMONS from servers around the globe "return" the spams to me, sometimes with the viruses still attached. These "reverse spam attacks" happen to me several times a day now, and I think they've overloaded my mail server in some way because ALL legitimate email communications to me have become just a trickle. I used to get about 20 Mohammed submissions an hour -- now I get just a couple a day. Plus, I'm not getting important business emails that I know were sent. Not sure what's going on, but it ain't pretty.

54 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:58:49am

#29 doppelganglander

The solution is for everyone, every blog, every media outlet large and small, to post the cartoons. Widespread dissemination of the images will rob them of their power. Plus, the Islamobots can't possibly hack every website.

Absolutely! And not just deeplinking. Put stuff on your own servers and put your name on it.

And buy a t-shirt and wear it...

55 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 6:59:20am

Are you folks aware of a web site which post English translations found in Asian society such as warning labels on clothing and signs on business. Somebody needs to start one for the Arabic world.
Say it in Engrish

56 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:00:28am

#50

I love "I'am" contraction that isn't.
"Do'not" know English that well, does she?

57 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:02:09am

Some cyberattacks back would be nice, but of the right sort. We need some good hackers to put up the Mohammed cartoons on official sites of Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, etc. And, of course, the Iran Soccer Bomb team cartoon on the Iran soccer team site.

Now for some serious information.

Some general comments on cyberattacks:

Denial of service attacks back don't always work, or hit "innocent" servers because many attacks are from "bots" running on systems infected with viruses and spyware. Many viruses nowadays are used by spammers to hijack systems for sending their spam, and such software can also be used for denial of service attacks. So if someone on RoadRunner or Shaw cable (common sources of spam I see) is attacking your site, you need to attack their servers, making the cable companies very upset. Same with blocking their addresses - now users of those cable companies can't get to your site (which certainly pleases the attackers).

Many ISPs do try to prevent this, but it doesn't always work, and you probably cannot get to anyone at the ISP to report problems in a timely manner.

As for using scripts to attack (and deface) sites, those scripts can be themselves used to verify that a system is secure. Security professionals (and amateurs) can download them as well as hackers. Just download them onto a machine that you are willing to blow away and reinstall, as many hacking tools also contain ways for hackers to take over the system running them.

I think Charles has access to people who know what they're doing in the security area, or lgf would have been long gone. And I don't have time (or quite enough knowledge) to explain exactly how to protect systems.

58 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:04:31am

#53 zombie, that sounds bad...

Are there any good tool repositories or webmaster forums with tips how to protect yourself against this type of attacks?

59 ShyGuy  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:05:25am

See Internet Haganah on this subject.

60 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:05:27am

#26 zombie

From: "ehsan ebrahimpour"

Oh, that's rich. The Islamobot claims you know nothing about Mohammed, and then does his level best to prove that you do know more than enough.

Wadda maroon.

61 dymphna  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:05:53am

Great! Bring it on...

Have you guys seen the latest support Denmark effort. You buy this Leggo set:Build Submission With Leggo

Nah...I don't think you could buy them this way but they sure would be easy to make. The Baron is considering scrounging up our old sets to see if he can draw some beards and frowns on the people parts...all you need are a few Leggo people and some brown magic marker and you're in business

Also visit the link where we got this. The guy is a comic devil genius...

62 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:07:28am

No. 12 friarstale

I think Islam is in its death throes

Well I do too, but it is going to be a mess. As a parallel, for Japan to get rid of Bushido (and they did airplane suicide attacks too) they had to lose about 3 percent of their population in WW2. (From my reading in the Brittanica).

So how many islamics are there, and what is 3 percent of that, and would their losing that percent be a big enough tragedy for them to get them to abandon their rotten sysstem?

Will it take more?

63 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:08:51am

#53 zombie

That's called a "reflected" DDOS. It and some other tricks, like using unwitting proxies, is why you can't fight back. The packets aren't coming from the attacker's computers, they're coming from unwitting third parties. Either through some reflection scheme like that, or in some cases, from virus-infected computers, whose owners are unaware that their computers are originating offending traffic.

I think Aaron (#40) has the right idea. They can't attack all the mirrors all the time. What you need to consider (if you have the budget for it) is setting up rotating DNS, so that requests for your URL are automatically assigned to various mirrors without going through your server. They'll go nuts trying to attack that.

64 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:08:53am

Nah, #55 Just_A_Grunt, Engrish is cute. It wouldn't be the same thing.

65 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:08:58am

#39 bouzouki

To: MetroSpy
These T-shirts of prophet Mohammed is not acceptable. Please take it a way. This is like invitation for terorists to attack your country. Islam is very peacful relgion.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

66 dymphna  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:10:04am

also, is anyone interested in helping me get a camera and rechargeable batteries for the Egyptian Sand Monkey? He didn't ask, it's just my idea -- he could give us some great pictures.

We have -- or shortly will have -- an extra camera but the batteries and recharger would be extra.

Any takers for a good cause? I mean, haven't you always wanted to be a patron of the arts and a subverter of Islam at the same time?

67 ctrlL  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:11:13am

42 jason97m

Someone needs to develop a geographic filter

Gee, doesn't Google know a lot about this?

Maybe they could share their info ...

/just sayin'

68 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:14:31am

67 ctrlL

Geographic filters are actually very easy, since IP addresses are assigned in blocks to countries, but most attacks are through third party computers, and a geographic filter wouldn't do any good.

69 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:16:22am

From Michelle:

Last Tuesday, during or immediately after my appearance on Fox News Channel to discuss the Mohammed Cartoons, this blog was hit by a large, foreign-based denial of service attack.

And DailyKos, DU, Atrios, TPM and the entire left side of the blogosphere cheered and waved their little fists in unison.

70 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:16:23am
71 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:17:21am
72 megscole64  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:17:46am

This really scares me. So, if I support Israel (as linked on my website) and if I put up a link to support Denmark my website could be attacked?!?!?! I'm not a technical person and would have no idea how to counter that. So what do I do? Not practice my protected freedom to speak? Not bloody likely!

To: MetroSpy
These T-shirts of prophet Mohammed is not acceptable. Please take it a way. This is like invitation for terorists to attack your country. Islam is very peacful relgion.

Do these goons not know the meaning of Irony!?!?!

73 BobTheBuilder  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:25:18am

The thirdworlders may wish to destroy the internet, but they are gennerally only capable of using pre-written scripts and tools found on various hacker sights.

The real "hackers" and "crackers" work on code at the assembler level and have a real understanding of the nuts and bolts of the technology under the hood of the internet.

Get the coder and network guru community involved in this fight and you will see the end of internet access for whole parts of the world.

Don't believe me? Does anyone remember Eugene Kashpureff and the AlterNIC incident where he hijacked the DNS root for the ENTIRE internet?

ICANN was sure surprised. And there are now lots of alternate DNS roots

Be carefull what you wish for...If the blackhat cracker community get's too frisky they really could bring the whole thing crashing down.

74 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:25:23am

#72
"This is like invitation for terorists to attack your country. Islam is very peacful relgion"

Like I said, the jokes just write themselves.

75 Ben B  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:31:21am

#12 Friarstale

Do you know, that's what I think. Mohammedanism is in its death throes. Unconsciously it knows this.

What peace and quiet there will be when the 1,400 year-old screech comes to an end.

76 Former Lurker  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:32:39am

Now I know why I was unable to get on Michelle's web site right after her Fox News appearance. I assumed it was because people wanted to see the cartoons.

And what is the MSM occupied with? The Vice-President's 18 hour delay in calling them about a non-fatal hunting accident.

(sigh)

77 highflight  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:33:04am

I KNEW there was a good reason to keep control of the root servers!

Shut down the appropriate suffixes until they stop. If the UN doesn't like it, tell them to get their own internet.

78 maddog44  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:33:59am

The Islamonitwits are seriously concerned with the disrespecting of Islam. Well, hep me out here, what exactly has Islam done to earn the respect of the world? (9-11? suicide bombers? rioting over cartoons? I must be missing something here, but so far it seems to me that Islam deserves the back of the world's hand, not respect.

79 keepandbear  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:35:00am

People I got educated about virus mirror sites acouple years ago when I found out MY home comp was spamming ITALY. I was getting these weird Daemon returns to my epmail but didn't understand at the time. Then suddemly my provider cuts my service. I call them and ask why I've been cut and they inform me I was spamming. I didn't know and they helped me clean my comp by sending me to a third party site. Then reinstated my service. I was running one of the big virus scan programs but it wasn't keeping up with everything (obviously, and yes I was updateing it).

Mmoral of the story

Some of you may be unwittlingly attacking Zombie Charles Michelle etc. Make sure you got good virus ware and keep it updated.

80 jcm  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:37:04am

We can isolate the attack as coming from a region. Toss a EMP over the fence, that stop this nonsense.

81 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:38:16am

Gonna have to reengineer the entire friggin Internet to enforce discipline sufficient to support security, and even then it's going to remain mondo difficult.

Maybe I should look at getting into the area, seems a growth industry.

82 jason97m  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:41:12am

#73BobTheBuilder

I concur completely. If you have discovered where and how someone is conducting their operations...if you shut them down, they will come back again. Of course you will have to start the process of finding and watching them again. Stealthy information gathering and precise defense is one great way to drive these folks bonkers.

83 dustyroadguy  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:41:32am

73 BobTheBuilder 2/15/2006 09:25AM PST

The real "hackers" and "crackers" work on code at the assembler level and have a real understanding of the nuts and bolts of the technology under the hood of the internet.

that would be our Black Op guys wielding an INTERNET version of a nuclear event...

sending out millions and billions of Kermit, tel-net-ed, 0's & 1's , boinking into GUI interfaces and savaging the borganites by infesting the nano-spheres of their camel born, cellular connected, laptops, correct ?..

-- DRG --...
;>P

84 BobTheBuilder  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:43:54am

There are lots of good reasons to be careful in how one fights back against Denial of service attacks.

Back when spam was the biggest problem on the internet, lots of people started fighting back using various means like ping of death,
SYN flood, Smurf attack, Teardrop, UDP flood attack, Wabbit, the list goes on and on.

The problem is that those who were "attacking back" were doing overall damage to internet traffic and hurting everyone weather they had it coming or not.

To put it another way...

If there is a violent protest on my street, I don't want my neighbors to just start randomly spraying gunfire at the bad guys. I want them to carefully target the bad guys if necessary and to cooperate fully with the authorities.

Same goes for the violent internet hackers.

85 BobTheBuilder  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:51:29am

#81 itellu3times

Gonna have to reengineer the entire friggin Internet


We already did. It's called Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6)

It's just that there is no pressing reason for most of the big providers to switch.

86 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:58:36am

#78 Maddog44

Well, muslims did give the world Algebra. Wait, that's even more reason to be angry with them!

87 maddog44  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:01:49am

#86 BD_VM
The 'rabs claim to have invented Algebra. That is not proven and they may have simply appropriated it from somewhere else, the Jews mebbe. After all, Algore claimed to have invented the internet...

88 BobTheBuilder  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:19:40am

The arabs did not "Invent" algebra, the ancient Egyptians did (about 4000 years ago).

Now if the scholars who study the ancient Egyptians are correct, those Egyptian people were African black people, (Negroid people not Caucasian people).

Since Arabs are indeed a branch of Caucasian people then they only inherited (Stole) Algebra from the Hindu number system. And had NOTHING to do with the invention of the mathmatical concepts.

The algebra of the Arabs was entirely rhetorical. They could solve quadratic equations, recognizing two solutions, possibly irrational, but usually rejected negative solutions. (1050 - 1130)

In 200 years the Arabs will say they invented the internet and the nuke. But so far all the evidence indicates that Islamics only destroy. I have yet to see them create anything.

89 Clio  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:24:36am

No, they did not really invent algebra, or the "zero" or the so-called "Arabic numerals". (They also did not write The Arabian Nights.)

The advances in mathematics came from India. In the early Middle Ages, there was an international network of merchants called the Radan, that ran the trade routes all the way from Spain and France to India and China.

The Radanites learned the numerals and the math in India, and transmitted them to the Middle East and then on to Europe -- which mistakenly thought they came from the Arabs.

P.S. The Radanites were all Jews.

90 MoonbatBane  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:25:07am

#33 Boy Hits Car

Yup. The best defense is a good offense...

91 maddog44  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:29:14am

#89 Clio
HA! I knew it. There are more than a few Jews who have contributed to Math and Physics.

92 dymphna  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:40:21am

#91 maddog44

There are more Ashkenazi Jews who've won Nobel prizes than any other group. When you stop to think of the millions of incredibly smart people who were just obliterated it's creepy...

I'll see if I can find the statistics. Used to have them on file.

If for no other reason -- and there are plenty more -- that's one compelling need to protect Israel. All that brain power in one place.

93 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:41:14am

#85 BobTheBuilder

However, most modern browsers support IPV6, and if I understand correctly, any server can optionally start using it. So while the internet as a whole may be slow to migrate, I believe that any particular site can. However, while it does a better job of encryption, it doesn't appear to be any more attack-resistant than IPV4. They'd just have to reprogram their old scripts for the new protocol. Am I missing anything?

94 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:43:56am

87 maddog44

Algore claimed to have invented the internet...

Didn't he invent the Algore-rhythm? Oh. That was an Arab invention (or at least word).

95 Clio  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:45:38am

Maddog 44 --

Actually these particular advances in mathematics were achieved in India.

The Jews just learned them and carried them Westward.

Albert Einstein and Johnny van Neumann et al came along later on.

96 alegrias  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:48:41am

Why is Russ Feingold, McCain Ally, starting another filibuster against the Patriot Act reauthorization? Isn't he pro-Al Qaeda enough? Is there anything left which the Dems haven't given the terrorists for free?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

97 BobTheBuilder  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:50:10am

#93 Earth2moonbat
There are Several security improvements...

an extension header that is called the IPv6 Authentication Header (AH), provides authentication and integrity, without confidentiality, to IPv6 datagrams.

The use of AH eliminates a significant class of network attacks, including host masquerading attacks. When using source routing with IPv6, the IPv6 authentication header becomes important because of the known risks in IP source routing. Upper-layer protocols and upper-layer services currently lack meaningful protections. However, the placement of the header at the Internet layer helps provide host origin authentication.

... an extension header that is called the IPv6 Encapsulating Security Payload (ESP), provides integrity and confidentiality to IPv6 datagrams. Though simpler than some similar security protocols, ESP remains flexible and is algorithm independent.

So yes it is more secure and more secure-able...you know though that everything is eventually hackable.

98 alegrias  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:56:20am

Some Intel engineer was an Al Qaedan jihadist--using over $300,000 from his job to support jihad right here in the USA. Read this yesterday in the Washington Times. Burrowed in jihadis whose calls we musn't monitor. Thanks, Dems for sparing the Trojan horses.

99 maddog44  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 9:00:35am

#92 dymphna, Clio
Yes, the great Jewish scientists are a source of my unending respect for the Jews and more than enough reason to preserve Israel. How about those great Islamic scientists? Where are they? Why, they must be rioting and burning over the horrible cartoons, and who can blame them? Right.
BTW, I have friends in Israel, and the Israelies are some of the nicest people in the world. Too damn nice IMHO.

100 javems  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 9:14:40am

BobTheBuilder
Do you still have your "brain parasite" link?

101 dymphna  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 9:14:45am

I found one of the pages on the comparative intelligence and performance of various ethnicities. The kind of thing that really annoys liberals.

This page dates from 1996, but it's still pretty accurate.

Jewish Intelligence and Nobel Prizes

Well, at least we Irish can sing...umm, some of us can.

102 dymphna  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 9:28:15am

99 maddogg44

The funny thing is, I think that the constant pogroms and limitations set on the Jews over these last millenia have been a kind of Darwinian selection process that left them with the brightest genetic material surviving. They couldn't own land, and Christians could lend money at interest. So the Xtians used the landless Jews to fund commerce. A Jew, always ready to flee, had to keep his assets fluid and ready to roll.

IOW, projection of hatred onto an Other ended up making that "Other" superior...another unintended consequence.

As for the Arabs, they've squandered their intelligence. Lots of those unemployed, angry and frustrated Muslims have no hope and no way to do what a man must do: provide for his family with dignity. No wonder they can be played like a fiddle -- they are held down by a cruel, thuggish leadership that wastes human beings in a most cynical way...look at what the Soviets did to the Russians, too.

The squander of intelligent life on this planet is awful...

...which makes me ask, WHAT are we doing that we are ending up with these mindless moonbats? Are we breeding intelligence *out* or our culture. Sure does make you wonder.

103 maddog44  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 9:28:45am

#101 dymphna
Tanks. Interesting, but not surprising results.

104 maddog44  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 9:47:34am

#102 dymphna
Yes, adversity breeds intellect. Yes, we are breeding stupidity in our public schools. It started when the Liberals took over education. Lack of competition breeds lazy brains. Liberals are competition adverse, because being stupid is easier than thinking. I have heard people with superior intellects say stupid and naive things due to plain old intellectual laziness.

105 BobTheBuilder  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 9:52:20am

#100 javems

Do you still have your "brain parasite" link?

brain parasite news story

brain parasite detailed blog entry of one of the researchers.

#102 dymphna

...which makes me ask, WHAT are we doing that we are ending up with these mindless moonbats? Are we breeding intelligence *out* or our culture. Sure does make you wonder.

I think the above links are applicable!

106 maddog44  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 10:01:56am

#105 Bob The Builder
I think that may be my problem. I had ex-girlfriends tell me there were unspeakable things running around in my brain, but I think they just lacked a spirit of adventure...

107 BobTheBuilder  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 10:13:55am

#106 maddog44

I'm only half kidding about the Brain Parasite thing.

If you look at a map and mark the areas where the researcher indicates the infection to be most prevalent, you see that there may be a correlation with human behavior in those very areas.

Look at how Methamphetamine affects the brain, and then consider that similar changes in behavior could be attributable to a naturally occurring external element.

Look at the areas of the world where death worship in religion and culture correlate with areas of parasite infection.

Islamics may be suicidal for a reason, and there may actually be a CURE for terrorism and death worship.

108 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 10:32:50am

I'm just now able to get to LGF, as it's been HTTP 500 errors all day.

Charles, has LGF been down today?

109 maddog44  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 10:36:38am

#107 Bob The Builder
I did not see the map where the ROP was superimposed over infected areas. I did groove on Maggie Q. however. Surest cure for Death cult is still "Hellfire injection" but drugs may be useful also.

110 BobTheBuilder  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 10:44:10am

#109 maddog44

I did not see the map where the ROP was superimposed over infected areas.

heh...that's the homework part.

But you must have got sidetracked!

111 BobTheBuilder  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 10:47:40am

#108 Ward Cleaver

Er... no Ward, no problems on this side. Time to reset your router and restart your comp.

112 maddog44  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 11:03:37am

#110 Bob
DAMN! Thats what I call superior genetics!

113 Trumanite  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 2:25:49pm

17 zombie 2/15/2006 08:39AM PST
I have been seriously targetted too. Had a DDOS attack from Turkey. Just in the last hour

I've been reverse-spammed with dozens of viruses from these email domain addresses:

Zombie, blogger Tracy Twyman of the Plus + Ultra blog will be on local Portland OR radio KPAM 860 AM, Victoria Taft Showstarting at 8:00 PST tonight talking about the hack attacks against her blog coming from Turkey.

You can also get it on Streaming Audio.

114 Abdullah al-Libi  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 4:37:55pm

If you guys want to have some fun, take the emails of the perps from Michelle's site and put them into the "Sign Me Up!" text boxes on porn sites, preferably ones that are oriented for Gay Men or have Ron Jeremy (he is Jewish). It's fun, easy, and bound to p*ss off some Islamomoron!

Scroll down for email addresses

115 mattm  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 7:12:28pm

If only we were like China and controlled what we want you to see.

/ACLU type off

116 cbinflux  Wed, Feb 15, 2006 8:24:30pm

#114

Probably too late... Yahoo! and Hotmail will have closed their accounts by now --NOT!


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