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Fri, Mar 3, 2006 at 4:47:44 pm PST

An irony-challenged leftist student who lied about his identity to infiltrate the UC Irvine panel discussion on the Danish cartoons tells a heart-stopping tale of terror: The Disgruntled Chemist. (Hat tip: M.I.M.)

Attending that meeting tonight has had a profound effect on me, one that I feel won’t be soon forgotten. The feeling of hatred, of raw emotional anger, was palpable in the audience for almost the entire debate. As Agi and I walked out, I told him that I was feeling dirty, and that’s still true as I write this. Part of it was pretending to be a conservative and nodding in agreement as these people told me that all Muslims were out to kill me. I regret this somewhat. On the one hand, pretending to be a conservative got me a level of honesty from many people that I think would have been impossible otherwise. On the other hand, my lack of action and implicit agreement with their points of view went against everything that I believe in. I don’t know if it was worth it.“

”.....I neither heard nor saw them (Republicans) doing anything to counter the tide of hate in the room. Some protesters did, and I commend them in the strongest possible terms.

Yet I was not one of them. And I regret that strongly. Part of it was not feeling safe, but another, stronger part of it was fear. Simply, I was afraid of the people in the audience around me. When the greater part of the audience stood up and began to chant “USA! USA! USA!” in response to a thinly-veiled threat against American Muslims, the image of a lynch mob came to mind....."

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1 easy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:50:47pm

Bad case of the vapors.

2 LSD  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:51:18pm
When the greater part of the audience stood up and began to chant “USA! USA! USA!” in response to a thinly-veiled threat against American Muslims, the image of a lynch mob came to mind..."

Yep, when your pal's kill 3000 of our fellow Americans and you don't turn them in, we get pissed ...

3 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:51:57pm
4 Catttt  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:52:14pm
them (Republicans)


Note to moonbat student: not everyone who disagrees with you is a Republican

/still a registered Democrat

5 jrdroll  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:53:17pm

The left; a-holes

6 MichaelMooreSucks  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:55:13pm

And we all know that liberals never make hateful remarks about conservatives (Nazis, racists, murderers, etc).

7 raidergirl  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:56:24pm

This guy must be a drama student!

8 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:57:28pm
9 zombie  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:57:34pm

Dang, Charles, I swear you have some kind of sneaky device that monitors my Web reading -- I JUST finished reading this UCI lefty essay, come back to LGF, and at that exact minute it's a new LGF thread. Spooky.

Anyway, on topic: the feeling that guy gets from going to the College Republicans meeting is the exact same feeling I get every time I go to any LLL event (which is all too often) -- revulsion, disgust, fear, aghastness, mystification. In fact, I feel that way just walking around on the streets of certain moonbat neighborhoods in the Bay Area.

There has been an epochal rift in American politics. The two sides can no longe see eye to eye. Things will never be the same again.

10 mbruce  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:57:51pm

What a wuss!
When the Young Republicans torch his car ,threaten his family and lop his head off,then...
Oh right,they were TALKING. Wrong group to pee in your pants over.
OH the horror.
THe LLLs still don't know who the enemy is,because it looks too much like the image mirror they're snorting off of.

11 Chief Airdale  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:58:05pm

I am S-o-o sorry his widdle feeling got hurt. Maybe one of his Islamo pals will hold him. Oh, but that would get a wall dropped on his head.

12 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:58:15pm
...pretending to be a conservative got me a level of honesty from many people that I think would have been impossible otherwise.

Whoa ~ is this like zombie's evil twin?

13 Megan  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:58:27pm
Yet I was not one of them. And I regret that strongly. Part of it was not feeling safe, but another, stronger part of it was fear. Simply, I was afraid of the people in the audience around me.

Why don't you go visit the Muslims in the Middle East? I'm sure these poor victims of hatred and Islamophobia will be loving and tolerant. Unlike those brutal Republicans.

14 zombie  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 2:59:50pm
#4 Cattt
them (Republicans)

Note to moonbat student: not everyone who disagrees with you is a Republican
/still a registered Democrat

Hey, and I'm still a card-carrying moonbat! My goal is to wrest moonbattism from the current crop of Leftofascists and give it back to the unicorns and fairies.

15 N. O'Brain  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:00:35pm

"Hi, Rush, great to talk to you. You know, I used to be a Republican..."

16 Megan  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:01:43pm
Simply, I was afraid of the people in the audience around me.

Grrr... I'm a scary Republican! I might chop off heads blow up buildings burn embassies have different, politically incorrect opinions!

17 dustyroadguy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:03:04pm
Going to the Campus Republicans' meeting took a lot out of me. ,When I got home I was physically shaking, and I immediately took a shot of whiskey in an effort to calm my nerves a bit.

It didn't work.


the idi-o-ron probably main-lined his whiskey instead of drinking ...
-- DRG --...
;>P

18 TMF  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:05:34pm

Gotta love the drive by shooting style of the MSM

AP admits, Friday night when no one is paying attention, that THEY MADE A BOO-BOO WHEN THEY SAID BUSH KNEW IN ADVANCE THE LEVEES WOULD BREACH

Whoopsies.

Im sure that ridiculous twat Huffingturd will apologize on her blog

19 reaganite  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:09:03pm

OT, sorry. Any earthlink users having problems getting email?

20 solomonpanting  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:09:07pm
If many of the Muslims who are angry about the cartoon are fundamentalists, the Christians and Republicans represented by those in the audience at the meeting are another, very similar kind of fundamentalist. They also would brook no disagreement with their point of view. They also threatened those who espoused a different point of view. And they also took themselves far, far too seriously and were hypersensitive to any percieved insult. Both groups, frankly, came out looking quite bad.

I wonder which ones would raise a greater stink if the Mohammed cartoons were widely shown in the US versus cartoons lampooning Jesus.

21 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:09:46pm
22 liege  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:11:08pm

Aren't lefties truth-challenged? I think he is just making it all up.

23 SaneInMN  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:11:42pm

How many times, living amongst brain-dead academics for the last 12 years, have I heard "...defend the 1st Amendment", seen bumper stickers proclaiming the importance of free speech, been lectured by ACLU card-carrying profs, etc. And yet, when a LIBERAL country's LIBERAL newspaper is under attack by fanatics hell bent on destroying the free world, these two-bit hypocrites scream "RACIST!". They believe in NOTHING, they stand for NOTHING but their own self interests, and they FEAR EVERYTHING!

24 raidergirl  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:11:47pm

#18 TMF
Theres no way, shes a piece of work, and not a good one at that!

25 oh_dude  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:12:07pm

As a former Anteater, it's very interesting that this tide of insanity seems to be gripping the campus. UCI is the heart of conservative yuppie-land in the OC. Go figure.

26 moonflower  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:12:15pm

#19 Reaganite


Yes, for about the last 20 minutes no email on earthlink.

27 religion of bacon  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:14:53pm

When the greater part of the audience stood up and began to chant “USA! USA! USA!” in response to a thinly-veiled threat against American Muslims, the image of a lynch mob came to mind...

But if it were a crowd shouting "Allahu Akbar!" "Death to America!" or "Kill the Cartoonists!" instead of "USA! USA! USA!" then it would have been a stirring expression of the will of the noble, oppressed masses...

28 ToxMan  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:14:57pm

I think this student doesn't know the difference between righteous indignation and hate...

29 reaganite  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:15:14pm

#26 moonflower

Yes, for about the last 20 minutes no email on earthlink.

It's been hours for me. I first noticed it about 4pm EST. I have no idea how long before I noticed it was out.

30 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:15:14pm
31 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:20:16pm
32 flipflop  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:20:39pm

Holy crap, is this guy a hand-wringing panty-waist, or what?

Regrettable that we've all just given this putz an exponential increase in traffic.

Oh, and read through some of the comments. A bunch of anti-semites.

33 bonz  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:21:04pm
Attending that meeting tonight has had a profound effect on me, one that I feel won’t be soon forgotten. Thefeeling of hatred, of raw emotional anger, was palpable in the audience for almost the entire debate. As Agi and I walked out, I told him that I wasfeelingdirty,

Awful lot of "feeling" and little thinking

34 hiker  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:21:08pm

He must have swooned at the sight of all the conservatives. Someone fan him, and bring him around, and send him home.

35 flipflop  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:22:20pm

#30 Iron Fist

I really don't see how you take it out there. I really don't.

I'm an east-coaster, but my company's headquartered in the bay area, so I go there a lot. I've got to go there next week, in fact, and I'm dreading it.

36 Captain Hate  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:22:56pm

Why are moonbats unable to distinguish delusions from reality?

37 stirred,not shakin  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:25:15pm

I'd bet that if one looked up the term "F__king Idiot" in their Funky Wrangles, this lunatics picture would be there!

There is an indoor mall where I shop occasionaly, and there is usually a half-dozen or so moonbats outside with their peace signs and the obligatory "no blood for oil" sign, you know - all the enlightened/bumper-sticker mentality that goes with it.

It makes me want to spit at them each time I walk by, instead of just laughing at them [ which I have to force myself to do ]. But I'm afraid if I ever let myself get close enough to them I'd probobly not stop with just spitting at them. But it's getting to the point where I'll have to say something or I'll explode! And I'm not even a muslim!

Archie Bunker was right!

38 hiker  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:29:07pm

#23 SaneInMn

You've got that right. Liberals believe in absolutely nothing (which means, of course, that they believe anything); and, certainly, they fear everything.

39 moonflower  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:31:32pm

#29 Reaganite

Actually, I haven't received any emails since about 2:30 PST, so I guess is has been out for awhile. Can't log in at the earthlink site either. I guess somethings funny with their server.

40 ProUSA  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:32:54pm

The LLLs all cringe at the sight of patriotism and anything pro-USA. Yet they want to defend Muslims they don't even understand. They hate all the wrong people.

41 reaganite  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:34:13pm

#39 moonflower

Can't log in at the earthlink site either.

Yeah, I tried that too. Sucks!

42 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:37:02pm
43 raidergirl  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:38:06pm

Sounds like he should try to find his happy place!

44 easy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:39:21pm
When the greater part of the audience stood up and began to chant “USA! USA! USA!” in response to a thinly-veiled threat against American Muslims, the image of a lynch mob came to mind..."


Yep, that's the first thing I think of when people chant "USA! USA!"

45 Megan  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:46:28pm

He sees himself up against racists, Nazi/KKK type people, and what does he do about it? "Waaahhh...the conservatives are sooo meeeaan!" Leftists like him think (or feel) they're in the same position as people like Martin Luther King, as if they are bravely fighting for tolerance and equality. But all they do is whine and throw hissy fits.

46 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:46:29pm

test

47 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:56:41pm
48 realwest  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 3:59:20pm

#29 reaganite It's been down for me since about 4:30PM - called Earthlink and they said their network (e-mail) is down and they're still working on it.
How did YOU happen to notice that your e-mail wasn't working?

;>p

49 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:02:21pm
50 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:02:37pm

#12 ChicagoBlue

Whoa ~ is this like zombie's evil twin?

Think Spock with a goatee. Easy to identify.

51 megscole64  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:03:01pm

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA ... I like being a 'scary' conservative. hee hee

---
30 Iron Fist 3/3/2006 05:15PM PST
#9 zombie,

Things will sort themselves out. They always do. We need some kind of secret sign so that when they do we can pick you out from the others.

It'd really suck to kill you along with them.

---

I'll be the one in the I heart Halliburton shirt. I think that's their cryptonite!

52 megscole64  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:04:19pm

Just another example of the ridiculous idea that conservatives need to be "infiltrated" like some sort of secretive anti-government militia or Christian church.


BOO!

53 reaganite  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:05:36pm

#48 realwest

How did YOU happen to notice that your e-mail wasn't working?

It was a fluke, I actually turned it on...

54 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:06:01pm

#51 megscole64

We need some kind of secret sign so that when they do we can pick you out from the others.


The signs:
Intelligence
Strength
Character
Manners

That's a start.

55 kateca  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:07:03pm

#47 rayra

Was just about to post:

I wonder why all these moonbat ears hear conservatives screaming racial slurs all the time while myself, a conservative, never have? and surely I have much more opportunity to know how conservatives think, act and speak as I am one myself.

56 megscole64  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:07:32pm

ROFL

Actually, a commenter on Michael Totten's blog made the following statement in all seriousness:

Ignorance/uninformed is not the trait known to be rampant in the liberal world. ;)

Oh...my...Gosh... Talk about denial.

57 khamr  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:08:53pm

A chemist eh? Anyone else thinking crystal meth? What insanity!

Chants of Mohammed have no impact but chants of USA leave him "physically shaking".

Somebody wake me up please...

58 realwest  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:11:00pm

#47 rayra - If you click on the link Charles gave us it'll take you to his blog site which he has updated with his own photos and his description of what happened doesn't exactly match yours.
I believe you, of course, his first picture has some students(?) standing there holding a very large Israeli flag and it goes downhill from there.
Why don't you go to his site and make the comment that if anyone would like to hear (audio) as well as see what happened to go to your link and call the poor widdle chemist what he really is - a moonbat shill, who lied through his teeth to get in and is still lying about it.

59 Mike in VA  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:11:02pm

So, at a Republican (or anti-Islamist) rally, the "tide of hate" culminates with people ranting (?) that Islamists want to kill them. Meanwhile, at an Islamist rally the high point is when they, in fact, take up chants urging each other on to kill us. This "student" needs to learn the difference between paranoia and persecution.

60 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:11:58pm
61 realwest  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:13:55pm

#53 reaganite - according to the Earthlink techie I spoke to in India, earthlink's servers are down. At 5:00PM Eastern he said they'd be up in no
more than an hour.
prolly meant no more than an hour from where he was.

62 megscole64  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:14:57pm

rayra...you SO kick butt! Reality colliding with moonbatism...worlds colliding indeed.

63 MichaelMooreSucks  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:15:07pm
He sees himself up against racists, Nazi/KKK type people, and what does he do about it? "Waaahhh...the conservatives are sooo meeeaan!" Leftists like him think (or feel) they're in the same position as people like Martin Luther King, as if they are bravely fighting for tolerance and equality. But all they do is whine and throw hissy fits.


Not to mention how a lot of this shit probably isn't even true.

64 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:16:02pm
65 realwest  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:19:19pm

#60 rayra - Way to go my Man. Truth to power, um, er, well you know what I mean! Hope you'll post it there's any significant increase in traffic because of your post there.
Thanks brother, you sure done good!

66 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:20:31pm
67 realwest  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:23:23pm

PIMF if there's any increase not it.
shit.
Anyway, great minds think alike Rayra - take a look at my comment #58!

68 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:23:49pm
69 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:25:54pm
70 megscole64  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:27:15pm

NOOO...not like My Little Pony...Don't defile one of my favorite childhood memories.

Choose something less loveable! LOL :)

71 realwest  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:27:29pm

#54 Crimsonfisted another suggested item for your list of how to identify us, the good, from the bad and ugly:

Intelligence
Strength
Character
Manners
Well Armed

;>)

72 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:30:09pm
73 Thanatopsis  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:31:08pm

#19 reaganite
Yeah. I'm having trouble. What the heck's wrong?
Thanatopsis

74 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:31:17pm
75 big L  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:31:40pm

31-I like that-- GWB got f*cked by the LLLocals so the next time, swoop in with writs, declare martial law and start of fthe remediation.

As an aside, Schwarzenegger went to D.C. to ask for funds for Califs levee system. Came back with zilch. So we are to be the hook for another $3 billion on top of billions in debt and more prop billions spent last few elections.

76 zombie  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:32:06pm
#69 rayra
oh man, I'm going to have to go back to his crappy little blog and ride him like My Little Pony.

That's so brokeback.

I'm going to Fisk like I've never fisked before.
Ever single lying sentence is going to get trounced by image and sound links from my report.

I'm looking forward to it!

The troll-slayer has awakened. Run, little moonbats, run!

77 Apu Pibat  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:32:15pm
Grrr... I'm a scary Republican! I might chop off heads blow up buildings burn embassies

And you know what? The LLLs actually believe that shit.

They actually believe that Republicans are a bigger threat to the world than Islamofacists. So it isn't much of a surprise that they'd see people cheering "USA! USA!" and start imagining a mob carrying torches and pitchforks.

And then they call themselves the "reality-based" community. Yeah, it's "reality" like a child's cardboard box house is "reality"

It would be funny if it wasn't so scary

78 megscole64  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:32:21pm

Phew...thanks Rayra...I can sleep peacefully tonight now. :)

79 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:33:13pm
80 kateca  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:34:05pm
...feeling of hatred and raw emotional anger

The chemist ought to infiltrate a mosque for comparison,,,

/feel the joy

81 honzik  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:34:23pm

#60 Rayra

Perhaps it's because I've had plenty of experience with by-any-means-necessary lefties (I did go to Berkeley, after all), but when I read the blurb from the disgruntled chemise, I thought "He's lying."
Thanks Rayra for confirming his "false but accurate" narrative.

Have you ever noticed that one of the lefty's favorite rhetorical trick is to barrage one with a salvo of "facts", half of which are distortions of reality and half of which are outright falsifications. And, if you catch him in a lie, he'll just change the subject?

82 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:34:43pm

rayra,

Lets us know when he deletes your comments and links.

By the way, he strutting his ever-so-reasonable self at Jeff Goldstein's.

83 reaganite  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:35:02pm

#73 Thanatopsis

Yeah. I'm having trouble. What the heck's wrong?

It just came back online!

84 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:41:01pm

*he's*


Yeah, I know. PIMF.

85 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:42:42pm
86 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:46:03pm
87 big L  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:50:16pm

72-Rayra, such a lovely and intelligent chant they did. Always the LLLs go after baseness in their chants as they have no ideas cepn lies or threats to c0mmit mayhem.

You been clashing with them for a long time now, thanks.

88 LrdGrizzly  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:56:29pm

#10 mbruce

Well said.

89 jimgoism  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 4:59:00pm

I left this Idiot a nice polite message...

And my site for some links to the truth about the Religion he so cherishes Islam...
[Link: www.jimgoism.blogspot.com...]

And one of my favorite quotes..

"If you will not fight for the right
when you can easily win without bloodshed;

If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly;

You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival.

There may even be a worse case:
You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
--- Winston Churchill

90 McJenny50  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 5:04:02pm

rayra! I posted your website on the disgruntled chemist's long about 5:29, thought they could use a dose of reality :)

Imagine my surprise to start reading some familiar styles of writing showing up there

91 NTropy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 5:07:59pm

I think the chemist is going to be very surprised to see just how many comments this particular blog entry engenders. Of course I had to toss in my 2¢ worth as well.

Of course many of them will be from the big bad scary KKK/fascist Republican types so they'll probably just get deleted.

92 NTropy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 5:17:57pm

BTW Charles, I miss the Friday Night Sermon threads. They were always entertaining and also quite useful.

93 pat  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 5:26:26pm

Too bad this moron wasn't having his vegie burger at the campu square at Chapel Hill this morning.

94 Leonidasofsparta  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 5:48:16pm

.."I was afraid of the people in the audience around me. When the greater part of the audience stood up and began to chant “USA! USA! USA!” in response to a thinly-veiled threat against American Muslims, the image of a lynch mob came to mind..."

Obviously he has never been in a "car swarm" in Gaza, or in the hands of Al-Zarqawi and his headchoppers, or anywhere in the Sudan at the mercy of the Wahabbists...
(or in the faculty lounge at a public school in the US after being overheard saying "The UN needs to be disbanded" or "Bill Clinton was such a horror.")

95 Lively  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 5:59:44pm

The guy who wrote the blog posted an update. Seems he has something to say about LGF.

96 blueroom127  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 6:05:18pm

I have a fairly popular punk band in NYC and I swore I would never get political but after seeing all this crap, a song titled "G-d damn your prophet" is going on our upcoming album. Yay, a fatwa upon me : )

97 rthor  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 6:16:52pm

Way to go Rayra

sounds as if you've got a really "reactive"
target with this little weasel

cheers!

98 The Drizzle  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 6:17:29pm

Again with the "notoriously racist" bullshit about LGF. How about all of those assholes being "notoriously anti-American"? All the fucking left know how to do is call names like frigging children. Boo Hoo! Racist! Racist! Hitler! Boo Hoo!

99 NTropy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 6:24:23pm

Well Comandante Agi took issue with me for calling him on his ad hominem "wingnut" comment. His response to me was

ad hominems? you are sure one to talk. Read back through this entire post. Most of the comments are angry attacks at the author of this blog. If that's not ad hominem then I don't know what is.

The worst, the very worst, I could find were "Prissy", "Partisan Leftist", "Liar", "You are Nuts" & "a wuss!". And only "Prissy" and "wuss" could really be considered approaching ad hominem considering the context. As thin skinned as the Muslims they side with these guys are.

100 mattm  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 6:37:10pm
When the greater part of the audience stood up and began to chant “USA! USA! USA!” in response to a thinly-veiled threat against American Muslims, the image of a lynch mob came to mind...

Does the fact that Muslims have blown up the WTC, US Embassys, USS Cole, carbombs, etc, etc, etc, get left out of the picture for you.

101 rakkasan  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 6:40:44pm

#23 SaneinMN

They believe in NOTHING, they stand for NOTHING but their own self interests, and they FEAR EVERYTHING!

Amazing that they fear Christians who write letters to the editor in response to provocations, yet they give a pass to people who will burn a man alive in Nigeria because of a cartoon someone drew in Denmark. Simply and utterly amazing.

102 metal man  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 6:44:29pm

The thinly veiled threat is as likely to break as the unveiled threat we see on the TV every Fning day from around the world. I don't have allot of faith in the American public but the islamists are pushing way to hard to boil the frog IMHO and we will crush them in the end. Many more innocents will be lost but we will prevail. I don't like the way it is going but at least I sleep at night.

103 Rob Thompson  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 6:48:59pm

I rather enjoyed his post. The thread, not so much.

What I liked was the fact that he approached the event with exactly the same prejudices against "Republicans" that he accuses the event sponsors and audience of having; an irrational fear and near-complete ignorance of what his subject is about.

I encounter people like our DC every day. He's bright (chemistry isn't for dullards), but has made the error of believing his talents in one area extend to others. Chemistry labs require painstaking measurement and careful calculation - but the subjects won't lie to you.

Unlike, say, the political activists infesting modern academia. He isn't going to re-evaluate his thinking, or consider that the Islamist-to-conservative murder ratio is a bit imbalanced; he knows we're wrong, because the people he surrounds himself with have said so. And, y'know, they're smart people - not like the blue collar sheep he imagines inhabit some imaginary red-state land. He can tell, because they're at college.

So, it's really a waste of time to point out that the facts don't match his assertions. He can listen to the recordings, nod his head, and believe that what he's reported is exactly true - because he hears exactly what he expects to hear, whether it's there or not. At the same time, he can't hear the menace from the crowd outside - even though crowds with the same agenda have burned and murdered around the world, unlike the 'born again' lady seated next to him that frightened him so thoroughly.

All that's really happened is that he gets a great hit count for one night, and a chance to beat his breast to his readers about how the evil racist LGF'ers are victimizing him, which has also the side effect of further reinforcing his prejudices. That's cool; he's irrelevant, and even the irrelevant in this world deserve some joy.

The real danger is to people like him and Rachel Corrie - because they're accessible to the bombers and murderers. Poor bastards.

104 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 6:49:49pm

Upside: Best laugh all day! (who knows-maybe, just maaaybe someone who thinks like him will see the irony meter off the f'n scale and get it)

Downside: That guy probably will never get it... on the other hand he'll probably continue to set the "don't be this guy example"... I guess that's not really much of a downside...

105 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:03:18pm

Apparently, what Rayra recorded is just current wisdon on LGF:

I know this is the current wisdom on LGF, and there’s nothing I can say to refute it. Just listen openly and honestly, and then think about what else I could have heard from my seat in the tenth row (I think the dude with the tape recorder was in the back). Also, a lot of what’s in my posts comes from one-on-one conversation with people, which obviously the tape recorder couldn’t hear.

But hey, people are gonna believe what they want. Not a lot I can do about that.

Yep, we should just believe what the Quaking Chemist tells us happened, even if it doesn't jive with the physical evidence. Yep, Rayra, it's our "lyin' ears" that deceive us.

106 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:04:18pm

When was the last time I posted a comment without a f*cking typo?

Damnit.

107 Baldy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:07:41pm

He seemed to not belive that there are Nazi-ish cartoons of jews common in the Muslim world. He called the shown antisemitic cartoons

critical of Jews.

Seems a bit bland. He also has an issue with comparing Arabs to Hitler. I say they may be worse, in the sense that at least lefties hated Hitler. Probably because he hated commies. Maybe if Muslims hated commies...

108 NTropy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:10:03pm

Hey Norm

I think you dropped a "u" in your last post. ;-)

109 Baldy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:10:20pm

106 Spiny - At least you aren't me, who tends to bold typos, for extra effect,

110 Baldy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:12:17pm

98 The Drizzle - Race transcends all for the left. Just like which other group...?

111 NTropy  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:12:44pm

#109 Baldy

You mean like ending a sentence with a comma instead of a period?

Captain pedantic to the rescue!

112 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:14:37pm

#108 NTropy

I think you dropped a "u" in your last post. ;-)

I think I m*st've exce*d*d my vow*l l*m*ts.

Yrrcchh! Th&r& @ll g0n& n0w.

113 Totally Berserk  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:19:59pm

reminds me of Sgrena. Lying commie.

114 WestPack  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:25:52pm

Sounds like you got your nads ("piece" be upon them) in an uproar. Is that what you're trying to convey? Get your a__ over to Iran where you can feel safe among your soul mates.

115 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:41:44pm
116 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:47:08pm
117 Beagle  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:53:09pm

#115 Rayra

I have no intent to convince Disgruntled Liar of anything it all. What I am going to do instead is expose him as a Liar, and show every one of his Ideological sycophants to be liars by extension for backing / parroting his lies and formulaic condemnations.


It's amazing how critical thinking has been systematically destroyed by public education and our Stalinist university system.

The one who said there are no passages in the Qur'an which advocate killing non-Muslims - best case scenario - took a survey course in college on Islam (all of them edit out the dozens of explicit calls to arms).

Or, they are so intellectually lazy and self-centered, they assume nobody could actually read something as boring as the Qur'an excluding Muslims. Well, it was boring. After the 1993 WTC attack I began to gain more than a merely intellectual curiosity. After 9/11 I realized I'd be cruising for a Darwin Award if I didn't do my homework.

118 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:55:20pm
119 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:56:56pm
120 Beagle  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 7:57:31pm

#98 The Drizzle

Again with the "notoriously racist" bullshit about LGF.


Most leftists can't go three paragraphs without throwing in a racist epithet. It's projection. Their belief system is centered on race, gender, and class.

Those of us who live in a world of beliefs, ideas, culture, and education must be slotted into their existing categories.

121 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 8:00:55pm
122 Rob Thompson  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 8:10:46pm

#115 Rayra

Sorry if I came across as critical of you, that wasn't intended. I think that it is important to expose this sort of thing, and I'm glad someone's willing to do it.

I was just pointing out it's an utter waste of time to talk to him about it.

123 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 8:21:55pm
124 Beagle  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 8:27:59pm

For a debate with the Left that was surprisingly free of shrill screeching about the usual subjects. I'm still recovering from years of trying to debate those people with facts.

It's tough being moderate in a completely polarized world.

125 Bubble Girl  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 8:28:28pm
Those of us who live in a world of beliefs, ideas, culture, and education must be slotted into their existing categories.

So.. what slot do I fit in?

126 Bubble Girl  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 8:32:20pm

Whoa.. I am having flashbacks..

This reminds me of when I wanted to buy the book, Stolen Valor. I had to infiltrate a Barnes and Noble and a Borders. When I went into Borders I asked a saleswoman if they had any copies..

She yelled at me!

"We are all out! We don't have any in the back, the rumors aren't true! "

127 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 8:38:53pm
128 Beagle  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 8:41:33pm

#125 Bubble Girl

So.. what slot do I fit in?


All of them? You have beliefs, ideas, are from a culture, and are well-educated.

You claim to be a Latina, but I'll need some solid photographic evidence (preferably involving something sexy) for me to believe it. /heh

Seriously though, the Left talks about racism like the Fugitive Slave Act is still being debated. The most offensive person I've met recently, I'm not proud to say, is an ex-hippie white guy who started telling a racist joke in front of my house.

We hired him to do some work. Thing is, my neighborhood is more integrated than any neighborhood in which Kerry, Kennedy, and certainly Robert Byrd have lived. I did all I could to cut him off and talk over him.

It pisses me off to be called a racist when white people who are racists, IMO, deserve a punch in the face.

129 Bubble Girl  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 8:43:31pm

But, Rayra, his "version" was so much more... melodramatic!

130 Bubble Girl  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 8:48:20pm

128 Beagle

You claim to be a Latina, but I'll need some solid photographic evidence (preferably involving something sexy) for me to believe it. /heh

Aha! This is so stereotypical.. the "hot Latina" ...

but in this case, true. lol What can I say. Life imitates stereotypes.

And so, if you have been called a racist for your views about Muslims then you have to remind yourself, Muslim is not a race.

For myself, I will be happy when PC is finished.

131 Beagle  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 9:02:34pm

#130 Bubble Girl

This is so stereotypical.. the "hot Latina" ...


LOL, and such a debilitating one too. There are so many hispanics in Florida I tend to forget many people consider then a different race. When I was a kid I thought hispanic was white. My parents - luckily - were good people and didn't explain things in terms of race.

I wish I had a geneaology beyond my grandparents. I tan so easily it's a little suspicious.

For myself, I will be happy when PC is finished.


It's getting to be as oppressive as the oppression it was intended to eradicate.

132 Bubble Girl  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 9:12:19pm

131 Beagle

PC has turned us into bland people. There are some things that came out of PC, such as no longer referring to people in derogatory terms and racist terms too.

But it also took away one of our major defense mechanisms.. or at least tried to.. the one that signals danger to us. PC tells us that we have to "understand" the other side, such as 9/11. It is not "their fault" it is ours in our failure to "understand" them.

Take away PC and it is simply a matter of someone else wants us destroyed.

133 Beagle  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 9:22:42pm

Dane Abdool, what sort of name is that?
He set his girlfriend on fire, which killed her. Usually I don't read much local news. This is why.

Welcome to the Magic Kingdom.

134 Bubble Girl  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 9:23:15pm

Beagle

I have been thinking about it some more. To me, it doesn't matter what color you are, your economic status, your title, ect. What matters is what kind of person you are.

135 Economeister  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 9:26:07pm

Maybe it's just me, but I have the feeling that the whole "USA, USA, USA" chant never happened. I think he's making it up.

136 Michael in MI  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 9:28:05pm

#134 Bubble Girl

"What matters is what kind of person you are."

Imagine how much better life would be for everyone if more people thought this way. This is definitely my approach at life and relationships.

137 Beagle  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 9:30:19pm

#133 BG

Take away PC and it is simply a matter of someone else wants us destroyed.


I guess I'm not PC, because that's a good summary of how I've felt about all this probably since Iran began chanting "Death to America" in 1979. I was getting very upset with the EU for a while as well, but then it started to unravel before they could start trying to threaten us militarily.

The world hates us so much, but I wonder how many of them have considered a world with Communist China as the major power?

Good chatting with you, Bubble Girl. I should try to get some sleep.

138 Beagle  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 9:31:44pm

#134 Bubble Girl

What matters is what kind of person you are.


Jeffrey Dahmer was white.

And on that note, my own fault, I really should try to crash.

139 Fatal  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 9:33:54pm
When the greater part of the audience stood up and began to chant “USA! USA! USA!” . . . the image of a lynch mob came to mind

Exactly! I remember watching the Olympics when the amatuer U.S. team was beating the Soviets in Ice Hockey (See the movie "Miracle" if you aren't old enough to remember the actual event).

I distinctly remember shuddering when the crowd started shouting "USA! USA! USA!", fearing that a lynch mob was just about to break out and hang the soviet goalie!

/LLL drug-induced haze off

140 Rob Thompson  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 10:36:38pm

#123 Rayra

My wife's at UC Davis - guess it's rubbing off on me. I just assume any time I open my mouth, I piss somebody off... Glad I was wrong this time.

141 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 10:51:07pm
142 Merovign  Fri, Mar 3, 2006 10:54:03pm
I told him that I was feeling dirty,

...because I lied to and about all those people...

pretending to be a conservative got me a level of honesty from many people that I think would have been impossible otherwise

...because I'm a clinically paranoid ignoramus...

Part of it was not feeling safe, but another, stronger part of it was fear.

Umm, that's the same thing, dumbass.

I was afraid of the people in the audience around me.

Damned terrifying right-wingers! If you don't keep your distance, they invite you to play golf, in the fashion of JJJengis Kahn!

WTFever. I was polite to the guy over on Protein Wisdom before I read this much of his shit. What a maroon!

143 Powderfinger  Sat, Mar 4, 2006 1:16:43am

Interesting.

rayra argues that there was no abundance of "Muslims are out to kill you" speech, and lefty chemist replies on his blog:

But I'll personally vouch for the authenticity of everything I said, including the part about people telling me that all Muslims are out to kill me. That was said, to my face, multiple times. It was while I was in line to get in, so dude that came late, you wouldn't have heard that.

But yet, in his 4 part breakdown of the event, the Waiting to get in section says:

"I took the opportunity, while we were waiting, to talk to some of the people on my side of the barricade. I told them that I was the author of a small conservative blog, and I was planning to write a post about why people had come to the event and how the evening unfolded. The first man I talked to was a Democrat, about seventy years old. He was Jewish, he said, and he was here because he felt it was important to support the College Republicans as they stood up to the Muslims. The following is a direct quote from him to me:

I don't care if you're a liberal or a conservative, a Republican or a Democrat. These people, these Muslims, are out to destroy us all. It's called jihad, plain and simple.

His wife stated that she was there because "this is America, and it's important for us to support free speech".

The Muslim protesters by this point had set up a PA system, and had done the call to prayer. The crowd of protesters kneeled towards Mecca and prayed, and then the speaker started up. He told the crowd that they were going to partake in some chants, and the last one would be about the Prophet Mohammed. Again, direct quotes:

Speaker: After that chant, we're going to talk about just who the Prophet Mohammed was.
Guy behind me: He was a camel driver!

After some more speaking by the protest leader, and some counter-protesting by the people on our side of the barricades, the doors were opened and in we went.

Make that Lying Leftist Chemist. Tell us again about the evil Christian Republicans, Lefty.

144 spinoneone  Sat, Mar 4, 2006 2:45:30am

The Muslim creed says, "enslave, convert, or kill," so if Muslims feel the heat of a little back-lash from Christians and Jews, well, one reaps what one sows.

145 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 4, 2006 3:26:19am

#47
Rayra.
Good for you!

Liberals/leftists lie. It's what they do. It's the only way they can attempt to get ahead.

Here in CO - our local hero - the 16 year old who taped recorded the left-wing rant of a left-wing teacher, is now being smeared, threatened and slandered by Mr. Bennish's leftist turd sniffers.

Mr. Bennish is now whining that the 16 year old taunted him into talking about the state of the union address. The 16 year old (Allen) has vehemently denied this charge. It's a lie.

Also, Mr. Bennish's brother has threatened the 16 year old via e-mail.

146 Jimbouie  Sat, Mar 4, 2006 7:56:24am

I read the Disgruntled Chemist's deathless prose -- nice going, Rayra -- and noticed in the comments that, as usual, it was the lefties who used words like "[bigoted word]". It's amazing how such epithets bubble out from the sensitive and tolerant liberals, whenever the chance comes along to pretend they're mimicking those they disagree with.

147 Jimbouie  Sat, Mar 4, 2006 7:57:45am

Hey, I typed "[bigoted word]", not "Arab". How'd that happen?

148 Jimbouie  Sat, Mar 4, 2006 7:58:32am

Okay, obviously there's a conversion factor at work here. I typed tow*lhe*d, not Arab.

149 Hankmeister  Sat, Mar 4, 2006 10:46:54am

I guess this asshole left out the part about all the beheadings the Republicans were calling for. Maybe the libtard would have been less offended if the assembled conservatives started chanting, "Death to Islamists", "Behead Those Who Disrespect Jesus", "Annihilate Muslims Who Mock the Bible's Gospel Message".

150 MoonbatBane  Sat, Mar 4, 2006 2:12:05pm

#47 rayra 3/3/2006 05:56PM PST

That's one of the reasons why I love LGF: If I want the actual FACTS, I can usually find them here. Wonderful!

151 Baldy  Sat, Mar 4, 2006 8:07:08pm

116 rayra - You are right, but it may have been more an issue with the USSR invading. The Muslims are always going on about us "stealing their oil," even though we pay them with our increasingly weaker dollars.

152 Baldy  Mon, Mar 6, 2006 10:33:26am

111 NTropy - Yes,


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