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1 UFO TOFU  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:28:44am

Peugots too slow, French police get Subarus

Most European criminals will also no longer be able to claim that they did not understand police instructions in French -- the cars will relay their messages in a light display in five languages -- French, English, German, Spanish and Dutch --while there is room for three others.


I wonder which language will be added…

2 zombie  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:31:14am

New zombie report just unveiled:

Cindy Sheehan speaking at U.C. Berkeley's International House.

It's a somewhat minor report, compared to some of my other stuff, but it does contain several entertaining moments.

Most importantly, pay attention to Footnote 2 -- perhaps the most devastating footnote ever! In it, I demonstrate that Cindy Sheehan is closely linked with the World Can't Wait movement (they sponsored this event), and prove that World Can't Wait is a front group for the Revolutionary Communist Party, which is basically nothing more than a Maoist cult.

I wouldn't feel the need to completely destroy Cindy Sheehan's credibility yet again like this, but the mainstream media keeps giving her a free pass and never mentions that she's in deep with the absolute worst and most dangerous elements of the "left."

3 templar  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:32:15am

Its nice to know that SOMEBODY likes this immigration bill. Congress is selling us down the river.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Money qoute:

"Some Mexican media outlets were even more euphoric, predicting final approval for the committee bill as drafted, and suggesting the weekend demonstrations showed Mexico still holds some sway over former territories which it lost in the 1846-48 Mexican-American War.

"With all due respect to Uncle Sam, this shows that Los Angeles has never stopped being ours," reporter Alberto Tinoco said on the Televisa television network's nightly news broadcast, referring to a Saturday march in Los Angeles that drew an estimated 500,000, mainly Mexicans."

4 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:33:14am

#1 UFO TOFU

Arabic, Farsi, and ?

5 Lizard Mom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:33:29am

Man, I used to live right down the street, a block away from the International house in Berkeley.

Sigh...

Glad I am not there now.

6 Buckaroo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:34:22am

# 4 W C

Urdu ...
:-(

7 Lizard Mom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:36:46am

Am I the only one who has been really depresed by the postings of the last couple of days? Charles seems to be brimming with news that is either depresing or enraging recently.

I am NOT blaming Charles. It is just the way it is.

8 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:36:54am

# 1 UFO TOFU

Subarus rock; Puke-its suck !

9 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:37:15am

#2 zombie

Did you have to start with a picture of her a$$?

/gotta scrub my eyes

10 Obi-wan  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:37:16am

#4 Ward Cleaver

Klingon.

11 maddog44  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:37:44am

#2 Zombie
I'm sorry, but I just can't put any meaning to any sentence that contains both the word "credibility" and "Cindy Sheehan".

12 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:38:07am

# 4 Ward Cleaver

Urdu.

13 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:38:58am

# 6 Buckaroo

Beat me to it, you bastard.

14 Pastorius  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:39:26am

Ad campaign canceled in London because the word "Muslim" is offensive to Muslims.

15 Randy.Thomas  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:39:39am
16 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:39:40am

All this bad news makes me Ill.


Time for a beer already!

17 Buckaroo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:40:19am

# 7 L M

Eh, the theme amongst many of the posts is that what was in the shadows is coming out in the open -- re: Borders "geez Muslims are dangerous -- and petty!"
re: the U.S. border -- "geez, the activists are out in left field -- we're not ceding land back to mexico!"

In the words of Han Solo -- "Bring 'em on -- I prefer a straight-up fight to all this sneaking around!"

And CAIR getting their ass handed to them in the lawsuit has got to be worth 10 posts of bad news alone!

18 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:40:50am

For a company that's done so well in WRC (mostly with the old 206), Peugeot sure doesn't sell any hot street cars.

19 Doug  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:40:59am

When is all this madness goung to come to a head and explode?

I hate it dragging on and on. Evil needs a major purging from the earth. How long can the rot spread before the body gets up and fights back?

20 Buckaroo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:41:08am

# 13 M C

I mean, how more obvious could it be?
:-)

21 Obi-wan  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:42:15am

#15 Randy.Thomas

Nobody cares. Get a life.

22 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:42:18am

# 7 Lizard Mom & # 16 Dustoff-507

Ah, jeez, guys - have a little faith ! But a beer is ALWAYS a good idea !

23 Fjordman  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:42:26am

#3: You are at war with Mexico. They are deliberately using massive immigration to conquer your territory, and your "leaders" are kneeling. It's just as Muslims are doing in Europe, only without the terrorism. In future encyclopedias it will say: USA: "Nation that existed until the 21st century. Had the strongest armed forces in human history. Was conquered and colonized by unarmed Mexicans between 1980 and 2030."

Read this:

The Second Mexican War, By Lawrence Auster

24 Seven_Stripes  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:44:46am

Some morons at my school tried to pull a Cindy Sheehan (which was apparantly allowed by my school, College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Mass) and nailed hundreds of painted wooden stakes in the Quad to represent the Americans and Iraqi's killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom.

[Link: sevenstripes.com...]

Above are pictures and what I think of the situation... your comments appreciated

Boy o boy.

25 Lizard Mom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:44:49am

#22 Mike C--

A) Gave up beer for Lent (one of the stupider things I have done recently)

B) It is only 9:45 in the morning CA time.

But other than those two minor problems, I totally agree. Beer is always a good idea!

26 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:44:50am

# 17 Buckaroo

Well, precisely.

# 20 Buckaroo

No argument there. Just digruntlement I didn't get it in first.

27 saywhat?  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:45:13am

DID YOU HEAR THAT NO JEWS DIED ON 9/11?


This looks like an interesting film that has premiered at a variety of theatres across the nation. Any lizards see it yet?

Protocols of Zion will premiere on Cinemax on April 11th @ 7pm

ABOUT THE FILM:

Marc Levin gives us an explosive exploration of resurgent anti-Semitism in the wake of September 11th in PROTOCOLS OF ZION. Levin's film draws its inspiration from an encounter he had in a New York taxi not long after 9/11, in which his driver, an Egyptian immigrant, made the disturbing claim that the Jews had been warned not to go to work at the World Trade Center on the day of the attck. He then said that "It's all written in the book," referring to "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," a notorious forgery created 100 years ago this year, purporting to be the Jews' master plan to rule the world. Long ago, discreditied as a fake.

"The Protocols" was a crucial influence on Hitler, and has fueled hatred, violence, and ultimately genocide through the first half of the twentieth century.

Levin, the award-winning filmmaker, whose SLAM won the Sundance Grand Jury Prize in 1998 discovered that today. "The Protocols" seem as popular as ever. . they are sold on Amazon and until recently at Wal-mart; they were just removed from the official web site of the Palestinian Authority; a couple of years ago, a dramatization aired to great success on Egyptian television. Deeply disturbed by this phenomenon, Levin embarks on a personal odyssey to learn more.

Armed with his camera and appearing on screen along with his subjects, Levin engages in a free-for-all dialogue with Arab Americans, Black nationalists, Christian evangelists, White supremacists, Kabbalist rabbis, Holocaust survivors, and the founder of the amazingly popular Jew Watch web site. Levin's genuinely curious and sometimes confrontational coversations combine to form a probing and provocative protrait of our so-called modern civilization caught in the grips of amost ancient hatred.




28 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:45:25am

How would you like to pay for admission to the 9/11 WTC Museum when it is finally built? Well, that's a distinct possibility based on statements made by the head of the group building it. There would be no admission to the memorial, but a fee might be imposed for the museum that would have exhibits from that day and recall the terror and horror of 9/11.

29 Randy.Thomas  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:45:38am

#21 Obi-Whine.

I've got one but thanks for the reminder.

30 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:46:29am

Hey Zombie,

Is Barrington Hall still there in Berkeley. An old girlfriend of mine moved into that place and eventually went completely crazy. She thought she could have conversations with trees, and grass and flowers...even rocks.

31 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:46:38am

# 25 Lizard Mom

As the song says, "It's 5 O'clock somewhere !"

32 Earth to Satan  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:46:59am

More riots in france on Fox news.

33 Lizard Mom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:48:32am

OK, people, let us keep this a PEACEFUL open thread. Let us cut off the sniping at each other before it can even get going.

Humph.

34 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:48:55am

# 28 lawhawk

If it actually tells the true story, I'll come with a $ 100 bill in my hand, no problem.

35 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:48:56am

#15 Randy


HusbandOnStrike.Com


That is great website, but darn it. I need to get married so I too can protest!

36 Obi-wan  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:49:08am

#29 Randy.Thomas

That's Master Kenobi to you.

37 Tumulus11  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:49:38am

. Caution - -

The following news item may cause unwanted or distressing mental pictures:

' An unauthorized biography of singer Barbra Streisand says she had affairs with Omar Sharif, Kris Kristofferson, Dodi Fayed and Richard Gere.

The list goes on, including Don Johnson, Warren Beatty, Peter Jennings, Andre Agassi, Prince Charles and hints of a possible dalliance with former President Bill Clinton, USA Today reports. '
// UPI March 28

38 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:49:56am

That darn US bias for Israel is showing again:

US 'open' to Israel borders plan

The US secretary of state has said Washington may be open to backing Israel's Kadima party in drawing the country's borders unilaterally.
Condoleezza Rice said a negotiated deal with the Palestinians was preferable, but seemed unlikely since the militant group Hamas won Palestinian elections.

But she added that there had been no chance to discuss the Israeli proposal.

It is the first time the US appears to have dropped its insistence that the conflict must be solved bilaterally.

Seething from the Arabs in 5...4...3...

39 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:49:57am
40 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:50:24am

# 30 R T G

Well of course one can converse with rocks. But only very slowly, and you do have to know the language.

41 Lizard Mom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:50:45am

Hey Mike C--

Hey, true!

Still, though, going to work with beer on my breath would likeley get me fired!

42 Lizard Mom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:51:51am

#37 tumulus

Oh, my head...

43 Randy.Thomas  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:52:34am

# 35 Dustoff - I ain't married either and I find the whole site disturbing and fascinating.

# 36 Yes Sir Master K sir! Can I still have my own, my very own, life?

44 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:53:28am

# 41 Lizard Mom

Ah, yeah - there is always that. No doubt about it - work is the curse of the drinking class.

45 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:53:39am

Barbara Streisand was kinda hot back in the 1960s. I was too young then to appreciate hotness, but having seen a few movies on TV, I'd say back in my single days, (except by the then she was getting progressively un-hotter by the minute) if the Barbara Streisand from "On a Clear Day..." had come to my door with pizza and beer, she might have talked her way into my bedroom.

46 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:53:48am

Check out the Dallas Morning News main page. There's a picture there, with the following caption:

Michelle Marquez (left), an 8th grade student at Lamar Middle School in Irving, was taunted by other students for having an American flag during an immigration protest on Tuesday at Kiest Park in Dallas.
47 Tiburon  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:54:06am

Well, I've seen worse news over the last few years, to wit:- Canada has cut all aid to Hamas.

For those interested, Professor Paul Eidelberg's post-election article, just out, can be found here. Can Israel Survive as a “Democracy”?

48 Obi-wan  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:54:29am

#43 Randy.Thomas

That's up to you.

49 Lizard Mom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:54:54am

Mike C--

Work is just a curse, period. Darn that Republican work ethic.

50 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:58:05am
51 Live4Truth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:58:20am
#7 Lizard Mom 3/30/2006 09:36AM PST

Am I the only one who has been really depresed by the postings of the last couple of days? Charles seems to be brimming with news that is either depresing or enraging recently.

I am NOT blaming Charles. It is just the way it is.

Have you (or anyone else) seen "Looking for Comedy in the Muslim World"? The trailers look great, and seems it could serve as a good mental vacation from battling the culture wars...

52 saywhat?  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:58:21am

The Jawa Report says

Fidel Castro Reported Dead

Rumors have begun circulating in Spanish language publications that Cuban dictator Fidel Castro has died. Cuban officials are denying the reports. Developing...

53 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:58:44am

40 Mike C,

Well of course one can converse with rocks. But only very slowly, and you do have to know the language.

That's what she said.

54 Lizard Mom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:59:09am

Well, if this is going to degenerate into a Randy vs Obi Wan war, it is probably a good thing I have to get going off to work, as it would just annoy me.

Have a great day everyone. And drink a beer for me!

55 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:59:28am

# 49 Lizard Mom

Work is a lot like house cleaning - something that should be done only out of the direst necessity. Unfortunately, dire necessity arrives in my mailbox on an almost daily basis.

56 Americain  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 7:59:56am

One of world’s oldest men celebrates 116 birthday

Pa Igboezu Asoegwu, believed to be one the world’s oldest men, is set to celebrate his 116th birthday at Utuh town near Nnewi, Anambra.

...Also speaking to newsmen Pa Asoegwu attributed his longevity to “God’s kindness as well as my efforts to lead a very simple and straight forward life”.

He said that he had never been to a hospital all through his life and that all his teeth were” still complete and intact”.

...All Pa Asoegwu’s 40 children are still alive and the eldest son, Dominic is 76.

He was converted to Christianity in 2005 at which ceremony he wedded his last and only surviving wife, aged about 60 years.

Never to old to convert, I guess. LOL.

Yes, he married a woman 56 years younger than him, but here's what caught my eye in the same article -

According to Guinness Book of Records, the oldest authenticated living man is Mr Emilliano Mercardo Del Toro of Puerto Rico, aged 113 years.

However, an Egyptian, Mr Mohammed al Wasimy, insists he was born in 1875 making him about 130 years (unofficially).

Mohammed married his wife, Fatima, in 1950 when he was 75 and she 14.

She was 61 years younger, but 14 years old!

57 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:00:14am

OK a couple serious, somewhat related questions; and yes, we need to secure our borders. But:
1. )Current unemployment rate is 5%; IIRC correctly from college econ that is basically full employment. Which Americans are illegal immigrants taking jobs from?
2). I've heard many times that as the baby boomers retire, there won't be enough people in the workforce to support their Social Security benefit; the system will go bankrupt. Nobody has explained who will take all the jobs the boomers retire from. I'm pretty sure it won't be Spanish speaking semi educated 22 year olds from Oaxaca.

Back to work, will check in later.

58 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:00:24am

The World Trade Center should be rebuilt exactly like it was and the uppermost office space of both towers should be given to the various UN missions and major news media organizations rent free.

59 Josiah Stevenson  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:00:33am
Fidel Castro Reported Dead

Rumors have begun circulating in Spanish language publications that Cuban dictator Fidel Castro has died. Cuban officials are denying the reports. Developing...


hope so...

60 MnJoe  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:00:43am

Seen on a bumper sticker in the Twin Cities area:

An NPR mind in a Fox News World

Ah yes.

And, I just emailed a friend in Atlanta that if she hasn't been to LGF lately, and including some of Charles' posts from this morning, she's missing some serious and crazy sh*t.

61 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:00:59am

# 53 R t G

If she wasn't a geology major, she was full of s**t.

62 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:01:05am
63 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:01:17am

Caddo/Blaine counties- tornado developing?


No warning yet-but rotation indicated!

64 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:02:34am
65 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:02:36am
66 squarepeg  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:02:55am

#52 saywhat

Yeah well, eh, maybe. From the article:

According to sources officials the Cuban dictator I have not been castrating for some days was in delicate state of health after to have undergone a sudden infarct.

Although I admit, if the translation were accurate it would still be welcome news.

67 UFO TOFU  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:04:12am

#46 Ward Cleaver
There are just so many things wrong about that, I don't know where to begin.

68 MerkinDream  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:04:20am

Distressed by the fact that Billy Bragg, whom I once liked, recast the lyrics of Dylan's "Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" into a lamentation for a terrorist-assisting asshole, I was inspired last night to compose my own little broadside on the last moments of Rachel Corrie. Some might find it tasteless, I fear.

The Ballad Of Saint Pancake

To the tune of “The Battle of New Orleans”

In two-thou-and-three Rachel took a little trip,
With a bunch of other morons to the funky Gaza Strip.
She dressed like an Arab chick, hung out in Rafah town,
But the dumb bitch bit the dust when a dozer ran her down.

She stood her ground but the dozer kept a'comin,
She figured it would stop like it done a while ago.
She plunked her ass down when her friends began to runnin',
Dumb Rachel she just sat there, never dreamed she oughta go.

She ran her mouth off till her bullhorn melted down,
Then she burned the Stars'n'Stripes for the children of the town.
She filled their heads with foolishness and hatred of the Jews,
And when they blew Israelis up, applauded at the news.

She stood her ground but the dozer kept a'comin,
She figured it would stop like it done a while ago.
She plunked her ass down when her friends began to runnin',
Dumb Rachel she just sat there, cause the dozer moved so slow.

Old Rachel figured that they'd never hurt a blonde,
A blue-eyed shiksa who grew up across the pond.
She plumb forgot she was hidden out of sight,
Of the dozer operator who was sittin' at a height.

(con gusto)

Well, it cracked Rachel's skull and it broke Rachel's backbone,
A D-9 Cat ain't the kind of thing that jokes.
It squashed her so flat that she didn't need a coffin,
Just folded her in half and they mailed her to her folks.

She stood her ground but the dozer kept a'comin,
She figured it would stop like it done a while ago.
She plunked her ass down when her friends began to runnin',
Dumb Rachel she just sat there, she's a flapjack now, you know!

Dumb Rachel she just sat there, she's a flapjack now, you know!
Pour syrup on old Rachel, pass the coffee to me, Joe!

SPOKEN FADE: Hey, can I get me some bacon over here? I really could use some bacon... thanks... and maybe some more coffee when you come by... yeah... all right... what WAS that girl thinkin', anyway? Evergreen State? Oh... never mind...

69 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:04:24am

#25 Lizard mom


B) It is only 9:45 in the morning CA time.

But other than those two minor problems, I totally agree. Beer is always a good idea!


(b) You must live in Calif. (-:


I like beer, but slowing becoming more of a wine person.

70 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:04:26am

35 Dustoff - don't bother, it's not worth it (grin)
37 Tumulus- Chris Buckley's last novel, No way to treat a (First ) Lady, hinges on the untimely death of a President who resembles Bill C, right after a Lincoln bedroom romp with an actress who resembles Streisand. Viagra is involved. The Hillary character is surprisingly likeable, so of course it's fiction.

71 Randy.Thomas  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:04:32am

Uh... LizardMom... I was just having fun with Obi - er... Master Kenobi. I am not upset or ready to "war" with him. I thought it was funny.

My bad :(

72 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:04:43am
73 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:04:48am

# 58 crosspatch

Much as I don't care for the man, I heard Donald Trump say on the excrable Larry King show last month that he thought the WTC should be rebuilt exactly as it was, except one story taller. His stock went up about 1000 % with me right then.

74 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:06:00am
75 traveler  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:06:04am

Is Castro egomaniacal -- or would that be megalomaniacal -- enough to have not picked a successor? Thinks he might live forever?

76 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:06:10am

I mentioned sustained 60 km/hr winds and a dust storm in progress in Amarillo in Jill Carroll thread (as example of wind energy piling into Oklahoma/Kansas super-mondo tornado outbreak (maybe bright font post soon), but the NWS has now issued a DUST STORM WARNING for the Texas Panhandle.

Visibilities expected to drop below 1/4 mile, perhaps to near zero.

A DUST STORM WARNING MEANS SEVERELY LIMITED VISIBILITIES ARE EXPECTED WITH BLOWING DUST. TRAVEL COULD BECOME EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. PERSONS WITH RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS SHOULD MAKE PREPARATIONS TO STAY INDOORS UNTIL THE STORM PASSES.

77 Americain  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:06:14am

#65 AI

Geezerdom?

LOL, I'm gonna use that one.

78 saywhat?  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:06:58am

#58 Crosspatch

The World Trade Center should be rebuilt exactly like it was

or . . .this design facing mecca(via nopasaran) would be an acceptable substitute, IMHO.

uppermost office space of both towers should be given to the various UN missions and major news media organizations rent free

I like the way you think.

79 traveler  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:07:38am

MMMmmm...pancakes...

80 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:07:44am

# 68 MerkinDream

You owe me a new keyboard. Spew alerts, please !

81 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:08:55am

My favorite geology word- "boudinage".


I wonder if even Mike C knows what it means.

82 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:09:06am
His stock went up about 1000 % with me right then.

I saw him say the same thing but it couldn't have been on the Larry King interview, I don't watch it, but my response was the same. Put the Saudi UN mission on the top floor and the Associated Press right under them.

83 Buckaroo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:09:08am

# 75 t

IIRC, there is at least 1 younger brother (I think 2) who are ready to do the Uday/Qusay step up to the plate ...
:-(

84 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:09:14am
85 moonflower  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:09:44am

Allahpundit is guest blogging for Michelle Malkin for a few days.

Check it out.

86 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:09:47am

#50...

Hello AI.

Blushing, blushing

87 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:10:13am

61 Mike C,

She was an English major.

And I found the answer to my question about Barrington Hall. It was closed in 1989.

What a pit that place was...And to think that I actually attended one of those Kool-Aid acid parties.

88 neocon hippie  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:10:38am

Does anyone have the scoop on major 911 conspiracy moonbat, BYU
physics Professor Steven Jones

89 ProUSA  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:12:56am

I have an immigration questions:

Exactly what is involved in the current LEGAL immigration process (applications, meetings, screenings, etc.)?

Aren't the legitimate arguments for a legal immigration process as follows:

1. It's our country (sovereignty) so we can exclude whoever we want, and add desirable productive people to our population.

2. Screening for and keeping out undesirable people (criminals, enemies, and sick people -- No one mentions the disease concerns. Do we screen for diseases these days?).

All I hear is:

1. We can't kick out grandpa because he has been here a long time. I say he is a criminal, who had no right to be here in the first place. If we catch any American criminal after years of searching for him (assuming no statute of limitations applies), I don't care that he was working hard at a job and paying taxes. It is not an excuse. "Hey forget about raping that child. It looks like you were working as a gardner in Hollywood. Thanks for doing the work rich people don't want to do."

2. We need immigrants (they leave off the "illegal" part) to do the jobs Americans won't do. Maybe if we kick out the illegals, the employers will have to pay higher wages to Americans to do that work (supply and demand) Isn't that better than raising the minimum wage every so often?

3. Our economy will fail without the [illegal] immigrants. Yeah, right. Maybe we should import slaves to save even more money and help our businesses increase profits. Since when do liberals want to protect businesses? If a business knowingly employs illegals, they should be punished too.

If we replaced illegals with legals, we would have more tax payers who could be tracked. Don't Dems and Libs want more taxes?

If we have a bird flu or some other epidemic because we don't screen [illegal] immigrants, do you think the MSM and LLLs will give Bush a pass? They were all over him for not having enough flu vaccine available in the past.

This is all such politcal crap, with both parties trying to get as many votes as possible.

I think we should not prosecute any drug users who drive pizza delivery cars. Hell, they are just doing jobs no other Americans want to do.

I used to crawl through storm sewers to clean and repair them. Can I get a "get out of jail" card since most Americans don't want to do that work? I may need it some day.

The scary thing is that I have talked with illegal immigrants who work in Wisconsin, and admit to changing their fake ID for each new job after trips back to Mexico. Some take 2 or 3 trips b ack to Mexico each year. Talk about an open border.

90 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:14:24am

My favorite geology word term - boring logs.

Yes, they are.

91 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:17:23am
92 Buckaroo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:17:25am

# 89 P

I think you mostly answered your own questions -- and quite well ...

I'm not sure what the "trigger event" is going to be for re-framing the dialouge and actions re: illegal immigrants -- we've seen several for the WoT (9/11, cartoon jihad, etc.) that woke many people up, perhaps the looniness of the rallies over the weekend will serve as one for this issue?

93 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:17:30am

Check this radar in Kansas- no tornadoes yet, but its is only a matter of minutes

94 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:17:59am

81 Ed Mahmoud...,

My favorite geology word- "boudinage".

Is that when your lover ties you to a stalactite?

95 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:18:03am

First tornado of the day, Saline and Ellsworth counties in Kansas.

Radar still.

96 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:18:38am

# 81 Ed of Many Names

Boudinage - the results of plastic deformation, usually in metamorphic rocks, that causes generally sausage-shaped rock bodies. And no, FYI, I didn't look it up.

97 Curt  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:19:38am

US Marines are tough people, and the wounded ones are working to get back into the "A Team."

Read this OpEd the LA Times written by LtCol Tim Maxwell, USMC.

HT to Black Five (The 2004 and 2005 Best MilBlog) for the link.

BZ to the LA Times for publishing this commentary from a wounded warrior who tells it like it is...

98 ChicagoBlue  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:19:59am

#94 Ringo ~

My favorite geology word- "boudinage".

Is that when your lover ties you to a stalactite?

Lol - nice lunch time laugh!

99 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:20:21am

Strong rotation 1 county SW of Wichita- watchout in Wichita!

100 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:20:29am

# 82 crosspatch

He may very well have said the same thing elsewhere, but he did say it on Larry (*spit*) King.

101 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:20:36am
102 SevoGuy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:20:44am

This country has been going down hill ever since the 60's. Now I now how my Irish immigrant ancestors felt when they left Ireland 136 years ago. They too felt that their country was in an abyss and they left for a better life in America. They worked hard and were able to build a wonderful life for themselves and their children.

Now you come to America, get welfare, food stamps, citizenship and never have to work another day in your life. There will be no social security for myself or my wife thanks to our "NO BALLS" politians. We are going down the drain in a hurry.

103 zombie  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:20:45am
#68 MerkinDream

You got me laughin'!

Somebody ought to make a blog compiliation of the three known satirical responses to the Billy Bragg Rachel Corrie song. They are:

The Drizzle's Rachel lyrics to the Gilligan's Island Theme

zombie's re-working of Bragg's Rachel lyrics to Dylan's "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll"

MerkinDream's Rachel lyrics to The Battle of New Orleans.

Only $9.99 now from K-Tel!

104 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:22:02am
105 pat  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:22:11am

Iran to engage in war games in Gulf. This is the height of idiocy on Iran's part. It truly demonstrates the disconnect between the Mullahs and reality. Any country that is being threatened with embargo or war would keep it's military assests under cover and scattered. We can ascertain incredible knowledge even if this a partial exersize or a ploy to setup minefields.

[Link: www.news24.com...]

106 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:22:53am
107 Buckaroo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:23:14am

# 103 z

My fave continues to be the re-working of the "Edmund Fitzgerald" -- was recently linked to here, can't remember the source post ...

108 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:23:44am

#89 ProUSA
I've answered those arguements by stating if we deport all illegal aliens and find that we truely *need* more workers, then all we have to do is raise our quota of legal immigrants from Mexico (or other places where those workers would come from).

We still get immigrants we need, but do it in a controlled and legal manner.

That has stopped every single whiner.

109 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:24:20am

#64 TFK

TFK, at least get it straight. Vicente Fox worked for Coca Cola and is a capitalist who tried to change Marxist/socialist Mexico from the top down in five years.

It's his likely successor Jose Manuel Lopez Obrador who is the Marxist mayor of Mexico's capital who is ready to greet Chavez and fellow leftists back to Mexico's presidential palace--and put up a statue of Castro no doubt!

Vicente Fox was the first NON-socialist to be Mexico's president in nearly 70 years. Fox also verbally slapped Chavez down recently, which we should have applauded as courageous in a Spanish speaking leader.

110 Buckaroo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:24:26am

# 106 A I

We're talking about Chirac, the question isn't "If" it's "how"
:-0

111 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:24:27am

Learned that word in my structural geology class, where we also learned how to use USGS maps, with the bottom cut off, with the strikes and dips, to plot cross sections.


The Sawtooth Mountains were a bee-yotch.


Does Mike C recall what a "window" is, and why it would make doing a cross section in the Sawtooth Mountains difficult?

112 UFO TOFU  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:25:06am

#89 ProUSA

Exactly what is involved in the current LEGAL immigration process (applications, meetings, screenings, etc.)?

You might find this interesting:


[Link: www.themoderatevoice.com...]

113 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:26:07am
114 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:26:54am

700 tons What the hell would you drop it from?

115 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:27:13am

I ask again, why isn't Wichita Kansas under a tornado warning?

116 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:27:25am
The aim is to measure the effect of the blast on hard granite structures, he said.

I dunno ... my guess is that it will serve to measure the effect of advance notification of a 0.7kt blast on moonbats. I would expect Sheehan is checking flight availability for Las Vegas in June right now. Anyone want to start a pool for when the first protest march aimed at stopping the test is announced?

117 Buckaroo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:27:34am

# 109 a

I remember thinking when he was elected "OK, Fox will be like the RWR of Mexico and lead them to a new plateau ... "

Now I'm not sure I want to blame him for failing, or scream at the entire corrupt system of kleptocrats who pushed him towards failure ...

118 Cornholio  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:27:43am

#1 UFO TOFU

WRX's rock :-)

119 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:28:19am

Sedgwick County, from what I can tell, and that looks like a tornado, at least what I can see from radar.

120 zombie  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:28:52am
#85 moonflower
Allahpundit is guest blogging for Michelle Malkin for a few days.
Check it out.

I just did, and much to my shock, look at Allah's very first Malkin post:

ROCK STAR
by Allahpundit

Many thanks to Michelle for letting me take the helm of the Millennium Falcon for the next few days. It's an honor to play Chewbacca to her Han.

Got a few things in the works for this afternoon. In the meantime, here's amateur zoologist Zombie with the latest dispatch from utopia. All the stars in the progressive cosmos align as a left-wing rock star takes the stage at Berkeley with the sponsorship of an allegedly communist organization. Read it all, especially footnote 2.

A pleasant surprise to start the day!

121 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:29:33am

#114 PK:

700 tons What the hell would you drop it from?

Perhaps the figure refers to explosive yield in TNT equivalent, rather than to actual weight? (They usually don't do that with non-nukes, AFAIK, but maybe for this big a boom they make an exception)

122 MerkinDream  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:29:37am
#103 Zombie

I'm honored to be mentioned in such company. Makes staying up late writing it worthwhile!

Incidentally, I tried out an in-progress version at a moonbat site; they called me a motherf-er for my troubles. Hurt my feelings, it did.

123 Tziporah  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:29:48am

Ed, I love your weather postings. Hopefully Wisconsin will stay out of the tornado limelight this year.

124 Chicken Kiev  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:30:18am

#68 merkindream

Very funny song! I wish I still listened to Doctor Demento coz your song would be perfect for it ... or does that show even still exist?

Back in the day, the Doctor used to play our old favorite, to the tune of "Barbara Ann":

Bomb bomb bomb
Bomb bomb Iran!

125 big L  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:30:29am

2 zombie- well the early reports wre that the great march of the illegal aleiens on sat was organized by "International Answer".

Of course now,that name has dropped off the list to be replaced by el kucui and tweety-bird the radio talk show hosts and one of George Soros' group.

I mention to somethat Cindy is backed by Commies and if get laughed at: "Commies?
Not the old saw of the Commies behind every corner, again?" But she is and the Mexican line-cutters are too.

126 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:30:38am
I ask again, why isn't Wichita Kansas under a tornado warning?

No idea but I am sure it is somehow the fault of the Bush Administration.

If a tornado hits the Kansas School Board during a meeting, I might begin to believe there is something to that intelligent design nonsense. Oh, wait, wrong city.

127 zombie  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:31:04am
#107 Buckaroo
# 103 z

My fave continues to be the re-working of the "Edmund Fitzgerald" -- was recently linked to here, can't remember the source post ...

Please do find it and re-post the link!

128 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:32:22am

OR
700 tons just can't refer to a deliverable weapon's weight. Something needs clarification.

129 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:33:48am

The 700 tons were to be set off in a tunnel, to measure effect on reinforced shelters, not dropped from a plane.


Reading comprehension, people.

130 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:34:40am

# 111 Ed of Many Names

Well, I been working geophysics for a good long while now, so my use of the term "window" may not match what you're getting at. What I do know is that structural geology is now completely different from what it was when I went to school. I've had to learn that the hard way.

131 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:34:41am

Father of man beheaded in Iraq runs for Congress

PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - Almost two years after the videotaped beheading of U.S. contractor Nick Berg in Iraq, his father is running a third-party race for the U.S. Congress on a platform seeking a complete withdrawal of American troops.

Michael Berg, a veteran anti-war activist and retired schoolteacher who campaigns in jeans and a T-shirt, is the Green Party candidate for the Delaware seat of seven-term Republican Rep. Michael Castle

132 Buckaroo  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:34:45am
133 St. Pancake  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:36:57am

Hi!
Would anyone happen to have a condensed version of the immigartion bill 4437? It is actually over 200 pages. I was hoping womone would know of an abbreviated list of the high points of 4437.

Thanks!

134 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:37:06am

# 118 Cornholio

Well, at least the STis. But the regular ones ain't bad, either. Zoom, zoom !

135 Pierre_Legrand[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:37:09am
136 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:37:30am

Huh?

Airblast from Underground Explosions

Philip Hookham, Titan Research

Abstract:
Two- and three-dimensional computational fluid and solid dynamics calculations were performed to predict the airblast and dust environment for the DIVINE STRAKE high explosive field test. The DIVINE STRAKE test is planned to be a large-yield, buried burst detonated at the Nevada Test Site. The early-time airblast, crater formation, and ejecta environment were calculated using the two-dimensional CRALE code. This solution was then overlayed onto two- and three-dimensional MAZe code computational meshes. The MAZe calculations simulated the airblast environment as well as the propagation of the dusty environment produced by the ejecta and subsequent dust sweep-up. The airblast environment will be compared to test measurements when they become available, while the predicted dust environment will be used to aid in planning of the test.

137 taterhead  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:37:54am

#93 Ed

Thanks. I'm in Missouri and that sh*t usually blows straight across our state. We are expecting thunderstorms late afternoon here and severe ones tonight.

138 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:38:06am

and uh
Divine Strake is a high-explosive (HE) test sponsored by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) and is scheduled for the summer of 2006 at the Nevada Test Site (NTS). The test is a detonation of a 700 ton buried heavy AN/FO charge above a tunnel structure. The main purpose of the test is to study ground shock effects on deeply buried tunnel structures. Of secondary interest is the airblast produced by a buried charge and its modification as it propagates over the local terrain.

139 quark2  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:38:11am

A 700lb shape charge isn't going to do much good if it can't be placed where most needed, in Iran.
A whole lot of boogaboo about nuttin.

140 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:38:16am

Did you know there is a Minneapolis in Kansas? At least there will be for a few more minutes.

141 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:38:17am

#129 Ed:

Reading comprehension, people.

I blame PK. Who is a bounder, btw.

142 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:40:49am

So to conclude this Divine Strake is not a weapon protype but actually, as that wanker OR points out, some sort of experiment to see what big blasts do to underground tunnels.

143 ProUSA  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:40:53am

#108 Silhouette

Your solution will never work. It is too simple and logical.

/I agree completely.

I am still curious about screening for disease. Do we do this anymore? Do we care anymore? The MSM jumps into panic mode the second a new flu is found in another county, but they could care less about illegals bring such diseases across our borders.

144 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:41:17am

#138 PK:

The main purpose of the test is to study ground shock effects on deeply buried tunnel structures. Of secondary interest is the airblast produced by a buried charge and its modification as it propagates over the local terrain.

I think the real reason is, "WOW this is gonna be fun blowing all this s**t up!".

In retrospect, at reaganite's retirement party we were participating in an active study of the causal effect between exposure to dissipated C-4 shock waves, and appetite for beer several hours later. We observed a positive correlation.

145 jamgarr  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:41:24am

#90

That's gneiss

146 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:41:43am

# 139 quark 2

It's basic research. We gotta do that stuff, you know.

147 NuclearTinkerbell  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:42:06am
148 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:42:23am

#117 buckaroo

Now I'm not sure I want to blame him for failing, or scream at the entire corrupt system of kleptocrats who pushed him towards failure

I pity anyone who like Vicente Fox tries to singlehandedly reverse 70 years of phony "revolutionary" party policies and legacy of Marxist.communist anticlerical kleptocrats.

Pushing for open borders so their "problems" will be solved by the US is how Mexico's kleptos and narcos have had it both ways, talking the Marxist Mexican talk, while they themselves live in palatial walled enclaves & take the fat of the land.

Kleptocratic Marxist Mexicans are no different than Kerry & Kennedy who live very well thank you and sell out the rest of their countrymen with their awful policies of appeasing the enemy, whatever is the enemy.

149 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:42:38am

103 zombie

Somebody ought to make a blog compiliation of the three known satirical responses to the Billy Bragg Rachel Corrie song. They are:


and

107 My fave continues to be the re-working of the "Edmund Fitzgerald" -- was recently linked to here, can't remember the source post ...

Can't find the LGF post, but the whole thing is at The Death of the Flat Rachel Corrie

That one's my favorite, too. I'd like to get a recording of it.

Just for kicks the first verse:

The legend lives on from Palestinians on down
Of the big thing they call a ‘bulldozer’
The dozer, it’s said, always flattens its dead
When the left wing protesters turn looney.

I wonder how she feels with us all laughing at her while she's in the big IHOP in the sky... on the griddle, I believe.

150 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:43:02am

Zombie, in a world filled with so much uncertainty, it is a comfort to know you continue to keep a watchful eye on the Loons.

And it's also good to know that in the midst of daily change, Cindy Sheehan is still uglier than most corpses.

151 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:44:04am

Gee, they're developing methods for mapping underground structutres. WOnder why?

LANL Participates in Tunnel Target Defeat Advanced Technology Concepts Demonstration Project
Wendee Brunish of Earth and Environmental Sciences (EES) with John St. Ledger and Mike Schick of Decision Applications Division attended the Planning Tools Working Group Meeting for the Tunnel Target Defeat Advanced Technology Concepts Demonstration Project. Brunish briefed the group on the EES-developed Geologic Assessment Methodology for Underground Targets (GAMUT), which is being used to develop 3-D high-fidelity models for sites of interest. The working group meeting was held on March 10 and 11 at Northrop Grumman International Technologies in Alexandria, VA.

152 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:44:11am

# 145 jamgarr

Okay, that's an official time out for use of a bad (and ancient) geological pun. I know, I know, it's not your 'fault.'

153 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:46:06am

#148 alegrias 3/30/2006 10:42AM PST

#117 buckaroo

I pity anyone who like Vicente Fox tries to singlehandedly reverse 70 years of phony "revolutionary" party policies and legacy of Marxist.communist anticlerical kleptocrats.

Pushing for open borders so their "problems" will be solved by the US is how Mexico's kleptos and narcos have had it both ways, talking the Marxist Mexican talk, while they themselves live in palatial walled enclaves & take the fat of the land.

Kleptocratic Marxist Mexicans are no different than Kerry & Kennedy who live very well thank you and sell out the rest of their countrymen with their awful policies of appeasing the enemy, whatever is the enemy.

Hello Alegrias.. I agree with your post, and I also wanted to say that I loved these:

anticlerical kleptocrats, kleptos, narcos, Marxist Mexicans, kleptocratic Marxist Mexicans...

154 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:46:34am

#131 Kragar

Almost two years after the videotaped beheading of U.S. contractor Nick Berg in Iraq (By who, Reuters?) , his father is running a third-party race for the U.S. Congress on a platform seeking a complete withdrawal of American troops victory for the men who killed his son.

155 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:46:50am

The Christian Science Monitor has a good article laying out the several reason why the much ballyhooed Iranian Oil Bourse (Moonbat fantasy theory #374) will have no effect on the US dollar. In fact it will fail to attract much business at all.

Think about it: you're an oil trader based in London or New York or Tokyo. Do you want to move to remote Karsh Island in the Persian Gulf, live under sharia and operate your business in the non-transparent environment of a highly corrupt regime? Me neither.

156 jamgarr  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:46:57am

#152

My sediments exactly

OK - I'll stop now

157 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:47:14am

#147 NuclearTinkerbell

Thats probably considered whacking material over at DU and Indymedia.

158 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:47:15am

Immigration thing: my personal opinion

It is obvious that we need some kind of "guest worker" program. With the aging and retirement of the boomers, it has been estimated that the US will lose up to 30% of it's workforce over a 15-year period. There are not as many younger workers entering the workforce as there are older workers leaving it. The old employment (or better, unemployment) paradigms of the 70's through 90's as the boomers were fully in the workforce are no longer going to hold. Unemployment isn't going to be the issue for kids currently in school that it was for boomers when they were in school.

We currently have an economy with millions of illegals working yet we still have an unemployment rate around 5% which is pretty darned good. In other words, there is no evidence that illegals are currently taking jobs away from legals in any staticically significant number. To put it another way, our economy is currently in a position to be able to absorb an influx of additional labor so ...

Rather than have millions of illegals not paying taxes and not paying into Social Security, it would be better for everyone to create some kind of program where they could help support the retiring boomers. Not passing the law isn't going to make them go home. There are millions already here, and there likely always will be because even if we put up an absolutely transit-proof fence, the ones that are here would more likely just stay instead of going home for a visit and coming back across.

To put it another way ... not passing a guest worker program won't change the number of illegals here, it just means that A: they will continue not paying taxes and B: they will continue to be taken advantage of by people who would threaten to turn them in to immigration for not working for below market wages. Illegals are often crime victims and afraid to report it.

I am for allowing them FULL participation in our economy and that includes being able to pay their share of taxes without fear. Their kids use the schools just like everyone elses, they should have the opportunity to pay for those services and I have reason to believe that many of them WANT to be legal workers.

159 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:47:47am
141 Occasional Reader 3/30/2006 10:38AM PST

#129 Ed:

Reading comprehension, people.

I blame PK. Who is a bounder, btw.


#142 Peacekeeper 3/30/2006 10:40AM PST

So to conclude this Divine Strake is not a weapon protype but actually, as that wanker OR points out, some sort of experiment to see what big blasts do to underground tunnels.

LOL...

160 taterhead  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:48:07am

#109 alegrias

It's his likely successor Jose Manuel Lopez Obrador who is the Marxist mayor of Mexico's capital who is ready to greet Chavez and fellow leftists back to Mexico's presidential palace--and put up a statue of Castro no doubt!

I heard the argument that the republicans must bear in mind the possibility of a commie Mexican president when they decide on a policy of immigration. We shouldn't shut out the Mexicans in the fear it could turn their opinions against us and vote for him. Their election can go either way. We legalize the illegals to appease the Mexicans in the hope they don't vote Chavezesque...but they could still vote the goon in anyway...guess what? Tons more illegals scattering to get away from the chavez wannabee. I say we think of our country first...we shouldn't write our law based on their politics. It is a swamp. Bolt the border in the eventuality of them going commie, and if they don't, well then we can deal better either way.

161 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:48:53am

Mike those links are full of geological thingaments...

162 ProUSA  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:49:17am

#112 UFO TOFU

Thanks for the link. The Brit points out a concern I have over any amnesty or special treatment for illegals: It will only encourage more illegals.

163 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:49:30am
164 grayp  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:49:49am

#133 St Pancake

Would anyone happen to have a condensed version of the immigartion bill 4437?


Go here.

Enter the bill number (HR 4437) and select the search by bill number option.

It will give you 4 versions to choose from. Click on the one you want.

The result will give you the whole bill. But on that screen there's a link to the Bill Summary&Status screen.

Click that. On the resulting screen you will see an option CRS Summary.. Click that.

Hope that helps.

165 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:50:26am
166 cobra  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:52:08am

Peacekeeper

I believe the "tons" is the energy equivalent of lbs. of TNT. Not the actual weight.

167 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:52:57am

AI :
Abbas in South Africa for talks

Are they getting back together?

168 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:53:31am

#142 Peacekeeper

So to conclude this Divine Strake is not a weapon protype but actually, as that wanker OR points out, some sort of experiment to see what big blasts do to underground tunnels.

Or maybe a test we are allowed to do to find out how well a nuclear bunker-buster would work, should Con-gress allow Bush to make one. (We certainly could use one about now.)

169 Matticus Finch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:54:06am

Kragar, Nuclear-

I go to icasualties.org every day to find out whose families to keep in my prayers.

Every life lost is sad, even when fighting for a noble cause. However, it looks like in the month of March, our average daily loss-of-life is 1. Down from two last month, and the lowest in nearly two years.

I'm sure the MSM is all over this promising trend.

170 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:54:35am

# 149 K S

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you !

171 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:55:21am

Update: Abbas talks in South Africa collapse in bitter dispute over who can dance, who can jive.

172 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:55:29am
173 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:55:39am

158 crosspatch

Your post is very thoughtful and has some merit. There are anywhere between 15 and 25 illegals currently residing in this country and more coming across every day. Our border to the South is the equivalent of Swiss Cheese.

Letting them pay taxes will not alleviate the more serious issues of how these illegals have full access to free health care, free public schools, and they do not have automobile insurance and drive without a license. All of us pick up these costs and it is a burden. There are over 48 million Citizens who cannot afford health insurance, who risk bankruptcy, losing their homes if serious illness or accident were to happen.

The illegals have a safety net. It is far more an issue than letting them pay taxes. I haven't even addressed of the violent gang members who are illegals nor the huge trafficking in illegal drugs nor the burden on the court systems.

174 mj  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:55:51am

# 163

Walt was going to leave before Protocols hit the street:

Martin Peretz wrote today:

"Professor Walt is vacating his position as academic dean of the Kennedy School in June. Even though he decided to leave the job of his own volition some time ago, Harvard should be grateful for his departure from this seat. An academic dean is supposed to be the shepherd of his faculty's (and his students') respect for evidence and scholarship. Having traduced the rules of evidence and the spirit of scholarly inquiry, he can no longer perform this function. Regrettably, Walt will not likely suffer any crueler fate than this. He has tenure, and tenure insulates one from all kinds of infractions against truth and honor."

Read the whole thing. It's quite good:
[Link: www.tnr.com...]

175 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:55:56am

168
HAS to be, nobody could deliver 700 tons of explosive via any means I can think of.

176 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:56:33am

PIMF BIG ONE ...

15 to 25 Million Illegals

177 NuclearTinkerbell  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:56:43am

#157 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Thats probably considered whacking material over at DU and Indymedia.

Ewww... I bet you're right. I can just see some Kos Kid slathering him/her/itself with peanut butter and "reflecting" on... I dunno, whatever gets moonbats off.

178 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:57:37am
179 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:58:00am

171 OR
Riding my coat tails again, eh monkey spank?

180 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:58:17am

Man, do I hate it when I try to make a serious point and then just blow it with a huge PIMF...

:insert several curse words here:

181 grayp  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:58:23am

#163 AI

Wow! But that article implies that Walt is stepping down because of the uproar over that stupid report. That may not be the case. Also, this phrase

After a furious outcry from prominent American Jews,

makes the whole thing read as tho Walt has been demoted because he pissed of the Jews - thereby giving Walt's paper credibility it doesn't deserve.

Example: Hitch is not a Jew by any stretch and he just wiped the floor with their asses.

182 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:59:11am
183 got milk?  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:59:21am

crosspatch 158

I agree with that.

Not to mention that many young people would never think of doing farm work for min. wage.

184 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 8:59:46am

# 170 Addendum

Gordon is scheduled to perform at Wolf Trap this coming August 1. Wonder if he'd considering singing that ? Eh - probably not.

185 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:00:04am
The Christian Science Monitor has a good article laying out the several reason why the much ballyhooed Iranian Oil Bourse (Moonbat fantasy theory #374) will have no effect on the US dollar.

The idea that Iran refusing to ship the US oil would somehow reduce the amount of oil in world markets is fantasy. Here is what would really happen:

Country A normally buys Iranian oil. Iran stops selling oil to Country A. Country B buys the Iranian oil. Country B had been buying oil from Nigeria. Now Nigeria has extra oil to sell. Country A now buys their oil from Nigeria.

There is nothing special about Iranian oil. It can be replaced by Mexican oil or Nigerian oil or Alaskan oil.

BUT ... Iran's main source of income is oil. If they don't sell any, they go broke and are swimming in crude and lots of their workers are suddenly idle and not getting a paycheck ... and ... Iran has almost no refining capacity. The gasoline and diesel that powers their cars, trucks, and planes comes from foreign refineries. In other words, Iran sells crude and buys gasoline. They are playing with a knife that cuts two ways. Iran needs the rest of the world to buy their oil as much as the rest of the world needs to buy it.

BUT what is also likely to happen ... world oil prices are set on a commodities exchange. If Iran threatens to cut oil off, speculators will jump into the market and bid the price up to levels having nothing to do with supply and demand. The price of crude that refiners must pay to make gasoline is the price on the commodity exchange, not what it costs to produce. Oil companies do not set the price of oil, the exchanges do. Same with refined gasoline. If you think gas is going to go up, you can buy futures contracts and controll millions of gallons of gasoline for future delivery. Many speculators will enter this market and push the price of gasoline up on the markets. This will push pump prices up and have nothing to do at all with supply, at first. Then if supply doesn't fall, the prices will come back down and the last person to buy the futures at stupidly high prices will be left holding the bag and forced to either sell the contract at a loss, or take delivery. Imagine your neighbor trying to figure out what to do with 100,000 gallons of gasoline! It's happened before.

186 mj  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:00:56am

181 grayp

Yes, you're right. That article makes it appear that Walt is being forced out by those evil Jews. See my post at 174 for the useful correction

187 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:01:04am
188 BenZacharia  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:01:05am

#158 crosspatch

Another affect of roe v wade, 30 million fewer citizen/taxpayers.

189 ChicagoBlue  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:01:42am

Patriots, Then and Now - Peggy Noonan

We fought a war to free slaves. We sent millions of white men to battle and destroyed a portion of our nation to free millions of black men. What kind of nation does this? We went to Europe, fought, died and won, and then taxed ourselves to save our enemies with the Marshall Plan. What kind of nation does this? Soviet communism stalked the world and we were the ones who steeled ourselves and taxed ourselves to stop it. Again: What kind of nation does this?

Only a very great one. Maybe the greatest of all.

Do we teach our immigrants that this is what they're joining? That this is the tradition they will now continue, and uphold?

Do we, today, act as if this is such a special place? No, not always, not even often. American exceptionalism is so yesterday. We don't want to be impolite. We don't want to offend. We don't want to seem narrow. In the age of globalism, honest patriotism seems like a faux pas.

And yet what is true of people is probably true of nations: if you don't have a well-grounded respect for yourself, you won't long sustain a well-grounded respect for others.

190 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:02:42am

180 Yes Bubbles, you have no credibility left.

191 quark2  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:03:20am

@143 ProUSA

They aren't too concerned, as long as the useful tools, the taxpayers keep paying out.
There are now leprosy clinics in this country because of the illegals. There are 3rd world diseases showing up, because of the illegals. But no big deal, the taxpayers will pay for their care.

192 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:03:55am

Ai
Are you the dancing queen?

193 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:04:06am
#190 Peacekeeper 3/30/2006 11:02AM PST

180 Yes Bubbles, you have no credibility left.

I know. I am also psychic.

194 got milk?  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:04:26am

Hi Ben Z

Great day today. Too bad I am stuck inside.

195 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:04:27am
196 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:04:51am

You are a psy-chic!

197 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:05:02am


#190 Peacekeeper 3/30/2006 11:02AM PST

180 Yes Bubbles, you have no credibility left.

I was just waiting for you to post this..

198 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:06:35am

Peacekeeper

A lot cheaper to just build a wall from Brownsville to Tijuana...

199 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:07:20am
200 BenZacharia  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:07:29am

#194 got milk?

Inside with all windows open and 1 of these in my head.

www.rapidrhino.com

201 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:07:34am

Monster cell approaching Oklahoma City's SW suburbs

202 mapenguin  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:07:45am

Sorry if this was already posted. This is just stupid. [Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Certain people just need to get over themselves.

203 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:08:03am

Bubbles, if there is one bipartisan issue in America today it is the need for cheap, exploitable labor in the south and west. We can't wall out our slaves peons.

204 Baldy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:08:05am

Paris: Savages Invade Agence France-Presse

"There has to be a stop to the use of this vague concept of 'trouble-makers'. It's not gratuitous violence. It's a way of expressing a political point of view, as happened in the suburbs in November," a student who gave her identity as Halima told AFP reporters..."We all want to break the system, whether the violence is physical or symbolic," Halima said...Police said the arrests were for assault, muggings, theft and vandalism. Several of those detained were carrying iron bars, pickaxe handles, chisels, tear gas canisters or knives, they said.

I would think the coverage will now die down, since they broke into the news agency. Lovely "youths" you have there, France.

205 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:08:06am

I just sent this to the BBC web site.

In your web based story titled "Paris shops bear brunt of riots" your reporter ends the story with this sentence...

"Who are they? Ask any shopkeeper, and they will tell you that they are the same youths of immigrant origin who rioted across France's impoverished suburbs in November."

Now... for the sake of journalistic integrity and your job to report facts... let's say the words all together... ready...

"Muslim youths... Muslim youths."

Now that wasn't so hard was it.

Next week we will work on the phrase...

"The BBC are dhimmi's... The BBC are dhimmi's."

Walter L. Newton
Golden, Colorado USA

How much longer is the world going to push forward with blinders on? I am tired of the media making believe that the problem is just misguided youths.

The problem is millions of people who have become a fifth column amoung us. And they are ready to do anything it takes to dhimmify us (or to simply kill us).

206 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:08:53am
207 z9z99  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:09:20am

#68 Merkin Dream

Another good tune for modification is the Kris Kristofferson ballad popularized by Janis Joplin, Me and Bobby McGee:

Me and Some Homicidal Nut

Bulldozed flat in Ramah town
Now I'm just a stain
Feeling near as faded as my genes

Ahmed thumbed a blue bus down
'Cause he was insane
Blew himself into tiny smithereens

I got my ideals
From my dingy red background
I was burning flags
While Ahmed turned to goo

Lured by the hate of Palestine
His life was wasted just like mine
Because nothing bugs us like a Jew

Freedom's just another thing that we don't understand
Nothin' ain't worth nothin' except ideology
And feeling good was easy, Lord
When I thought I knew it all
And feeling good was good enough for me
'Til I got flattened by heavy machinery


etc.

208 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:09:35am
#203 Peacekeeper 3/30/2006 11:08AM PST

Bubbles, if there is one bipartisan issue in America today it is the need for cheap, exploitable labor in the south and west. We can't wall out our slaves peons.

:Snort:

Oh yeah.. well don't look now cause you probably have some up there right now.. PK...

209 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:09:57am
210 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:10:41am

No we got french canadians underfoot. they're always coming down here selling poutine and and tacky yard gnomes.

211 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:11:24am

NWS Wichita finally went with a tornado warning for the monster cell that passed very near Wichita 30 minutes ago.

Watch out near El Dorado.


(Who knew there was an El Dorado, KS?)

212 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:11:47am

Oh My GOD-I just looked at a picture of MAMMA MOONBAT'S ASS...

I will never, ever be the same.

213 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:12:01am
#202 mapenguin 3/30/2006 11:07AM PST

Sorry if this was already posted. This is just stupid. [Link: news.yahoo.co...]

Certain people just need to get over themselves.

I thought you meant me...

/Mother Theresa, I can see how she would offend the Albanian Muslims..

214 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:12:51am

#115 Ed...

I get a "RADAR NOT AVAILABLE" message on the Wichita NEXRAD site, something about it being down for maintenance.

215 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:13:02am
#210 Peacekeeper 3/30/2006 11:10AM PST

No we got french canadians underfoot. they're always coming down here selling poutine and and tacky yard gnomes.

Are they that tacky?

216 BenZacharia  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:13:05am

Bubble Girl

Have you ever had experience with one of these?

http://www.rapidrhino.com

217 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:13:17am

David Warren: Staring Down Sha'aria

SNIP:

The case of Abdul Rahman, like the organized Danish cartoon apoplexy (still continuing in some parts of the world, where Muslim demagogues are still using it to whoop up anti-Western hysteria), brings us face to face with Islamic doctrines inimical to the survival of our civilization. And here, I wish I could say "Islamist", but the unpleasant truth is, Islamic doctrines.

218 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:13:43am
219 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:13:55am
#212 WriterMom 3/30/2006 11:11AM PST

Oh My GOD-I just looked at a picture of MAMMA MOONBAT'S ASS...

Okay, Miss, can you describe said "ass?" Any noticeable scars or tattoos?

220 mapenguin  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:14:25am

#213 Bubble Girl

LOL!

221 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:15:25am
222 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:17:51am

#178

timesonlines says:

Indonesia is indeed a nation of relaxed, liberal and reasonable Muslims

Hmmm. Really?

Jan 9/06 - A New Year’s eve bomb blast in a crowded meat market in the Central Sulawesi town of Palu which killed eight and wounded 54 – many of them Christians – continued the reign of terror against Christians in Indonesia in 2005

In May, two bombs in the Christian-majority town of Tentena killed 24 people and injured 97.

In September, Indonesian judges sentenced three Christian women to three years in prison for allowing Muslim children to attend a Christian education program.

In October, unidentified assailants beheaded three Christian high school girls walking to school in Poso, east of Palu.

...snip...

Islamic Bali bomb plotter Abu Bakar Ba'asyir could have his jail term cut under a general amnesty due to be announced next week, Indonesian media report.

Ba'asyir, who is said to lead the Jemaah Islamiyah militant group, was sentenced to 30 months in March for conspiracy over the 2002 attacks.

...snip...

Buwalda said the attacks by members of Laska Jihad on the village lasted from January 23, 1999, through August 2001 in the village of Waii, Indonesia.

“The attackers wore white, including white turbans. Those attacked were decapitated and mutilated beyond belief, even the elderly and women. One pastor tearfully beseeched us as visitors to help him understand how he could possible counsel his flock in the wake of such horrors,” Buwalda said.

...snip

...(CNN) -- Thousands of Indonesian Muslims marched through Jakarta Thursday chanting "Jihad! Jihad!" (holy war) in a protest against minority Christians, while additional police and troops were sent to try to halt the religious unrest in Ambon.

The nearly 5,000 protesters, most wearing traditional white Muslim clothes, slaughtered a goat, smeared the blood on a wooden cross and demanded a holy war against Christians

Relaxed and reasonable, folks.

223 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:17:55am
224 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:18:20am
I luvvv gnomes...


Well, you're on the right blog.

225 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:18:55am
I haven't even addressed of the violent gang members who are illegals nor the huge trafficking in illegal drugs nor the burden on the court systems.

While there are many illegals involved in such activity, we have seen that in our history with just about every immigrant group that has come to this country. The Irish had some pretty violent gangs, so did the Italians. The Russian mafia is pretty big in some areas of the US too.

OVERALL the Mexican immigrants have a strong work ethic, a string spiritual constitution, strong families, and don't get involved in crime at the rate of other ethnic groups. One of the reasons that the US violent crime rate is now HALF what it was in 1995 and teen crime is down SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT has been attributed to the black inner city population becoming more prosperous and successful over time and moving out to the suburbs. They are being replaced by latin and asian groups who are less angry, have strong family traditions going back generations concerning education, hard work, and taking personal responsibility for your success.

I lived for several years in Southern California in a residential area. There was a pair of latin men that would go door to door EVERY SINGLE DAY asking if there was any work to be done. They would do anything, lawn/landscaping, debris removal, painting, whatever you needed labor for, they would work. A couple of months later I noticed that they were no longer on foot and were riding bikes. A couple of months after that, they had an old blue beat up station wagon and now has some tools like mowers, clippers, hammers, etc. They also had women who I assumed were their wives and now their service offering included housework, laundry, window washing, etc. Over the course of a year I watched those two guys bust their asses. They worked hard, never stole a thing from anyone. If I left a dollar bill on the dresser and had the ladies do some dusting, that dollar was right where I left it.

I have nothing but respect for those guys and the millions of others like them who are NOT allergic to work, who don't blame anyone else for their lot in life and are just wanting a chance to work hard and succeed just like everyone else that has come to this country. Many have quite literally risked their lives to get here.

226 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:19:11am

Hey Lizards! Remember my special friend who was feeling sick (from Tuesday's Open?) She just called me to say she's feeling a lot better & the doctors like what they see on the test results! Thanks again for everyone's prayers & kind words.

227 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:19:12am

#204 Baldy

a student who gave her identity as Halima told AFP reporters..."We all want to break the system, whether the violence is physical or symbolic," Halima said

Halima...Halima...hmmm...is that a Fwench name?...or maybe it's Chinese...? It must be some kind of ethnic name but I...just... can't...place...it...

228 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:19:25am

#219 Bubble Girl

Not that kind of picture of her ass...it was in zombie's photos, which are now linked at Michelle Malkin's site which is being guest hosted by ALLAH!

229 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:20:21am

American Infidel buy me a Coke...

230 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:20:28am

Oh, work. BBL


PS
OR=wanker

231 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:21:20am

#227 kenneth

Think "marginalized" and you should come up with a few ideas...

232 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:21:25am
233 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:22:43am
234 lummox  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:22:57am

Zombie,


Do you ever sleep?

235 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:23:07am

216 Ben Z

Yes, I have... but I am not longer commenting on anything having to do with medical procedures..

Sorry, Ben..

236 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:23:10am

#91 AI


I was only kidding. I just think it's funny when you can see all these talk shows all about women and how life is so hard. Not that life can't be. But to see this guy, come up with a website (not that good by the way)

I just found the whole thing a laugh.

237 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:23:16am

AI

What, no lawn balls?

238 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:23:25am

#180 Bubble girl burbujita pimfy

:insert several curse words here:

for you, MarxistaMejican words: All your USA belong to us! Todo el Continente es Nuestro, muajajajaja.

239 Baldy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:24:04am

Grandma & Hijab - Endless Possibilities See also

Don't Bite My Back
The Disappearing Left Hand

Cannot make this stuff up.

240 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:24:53am

225 crosspatch

Well, again this is good. But you are speaking in Idealist terms, as a fifth generation American and Hispanic Latina from Texas I do have some experience in this matter.

241 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:26:25am

The bottom line for me is that the economic situation in this country is changing. I am not for granting citizenship, just for allowing some mechanism for taking a vast under-the-table economy and bringing it above board. Many would be less likely to be pressed into drugs and prostitution if they had a legitimate way out too.

Many of the laws on the books reflect the economic situation in place when they were written. As the boomers entered the job market, employment for all of them was a big issue. Economic conditions are on the verge of a big change and one of the great benefits of our system of government is that we can adapt to changing conditions. The laws need to change to reflect the current economic reality. Sometimes we need to act with more thought and try to work through the emotional.

242 BenZacharia  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:26:59am

Bubble Girl

Wasn't soliciting comment other than "yuck"

243 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:27:19am
#238 alegrias 3/30/2006 11:23AM PST

#180 Bubble girl burbujita pimfy

:insert several curse words here:

for you, MarxistaMejican words: All your USA belong to us! Todo el Continente es Nuestro, muajajajaja.

Gracias Senor Alegrias...

LOL...

244 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:27:28am
245 got milk?  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:28:04am

ben z

BIG YUCK

246 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:28:46am
247 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:28:49am

Ben Z

Sorry, man.. these days you have to draw the line.. but.. yuck is good. I'll agree with that..

:D

248 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:29:08am

Phoney revolutionairies

Silvio Berlusconi was roundly ridiculed by the French preSS for pointing out that Chinese communists boiled babies and used them as fertilizer during Mao's reign. Today, Libération PropagandaStaffel grudgingly admits that what Berlusconi said was true (today's edition page 11 -- no link yet) citing historian Stéphane Courtois who contributed to Le Livre Noir du Communisme*

Libération was founded as a Maoist community by Jean Paul Sartre and its current director, the cigar-smoking-hiring-and-firing ex-Maoist Serge July.

*The Black Book of Communism

249 Lawrence Schmerel  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:29:08am

Nick Berg's father is running for Congress.

It is a neck to neck race, but I think Michael Berg will lose by a head.

250 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:29:56am

#218 AmInf

"razzia" (permission to raid and plunder our infidel communities)

"Razia" Sounds like marxistmejican La Raza's philosophy to me.

All you USA are belong to us.

251 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:30:24am

Device warns you if you're boring or irritating

/might come in handy for some LGF posters

252 BenZacharia  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:30:54am

got milk?

Does my typing sound like I have a stuffed nose?

253 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:31:15am

#201 Ed...

Shades of May 3, 1999?

#211 Ed...

I knew that.

254 Matticus Finch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:31:27am

Anyone know anything about the rumors of Castro assuming room temperature?

255 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:32:25am
256 Baldy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:33:20am

Bangladesh: 3 Get Death for Killing Teacher (After Gang Rape)

On March 11, 2004, six youths allegedly led by Habibur Rahman of Pallabi abducted and gang-raped 25-year-old Fatema Akhter Kohinoor, a teacher, and then burnt her to death at an abandoned poultry farm in the area.

Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh: Free "Militants," Or Get Killed. And Your Family. And We Will Blow Up The CourtHouse...)

257 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:33:56am

#254 M.F

He's apparently quite comfortable in a Paris hospital. Not quite cold, and Chiraq is visiting.

258 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:35:26am

crosspatch

No one is getting emotional. People need to realize that there are now anywhere from 15 - 25 million illegals in this country. Our social services cannot keep up, nor can our healthcare systems, our court systems or our school systems. It all comes out of our pocketbooks, the higher auto insurance, health insurance, property taxes. With all the baby boomers retiring we are sliding into a bankrupt system of too many people living off some government assistance.

Why even have a border? Millions cross over every year, illegally in California, New Mexico, and Texas.

259 traveler  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:35:26am

#173 Bubble Girl

Very well put --

Two links on other threads I thought were worth reading, if you haven't seen them already.

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]


crosspatch has a good point about the hard-working individuals, but I've encountered lazy ones, too. And there are criminals among them, just as you would get with any large group like that.

My main beef is with the Mexican Government (the one under the flag that the marchers were waving the other day) making things so untenable as to encourage them to flee what could be a thriving economy.

So it's hard for me to generalize -- good or bad -- about that large a number of people. The attendant problems of unchecked millions of people are the same. And I worry about the corruption that drove them here simply setting itself up here.

260 leftcoaster  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:35:50am

#158

While I diagree with your assumption that we are loosing our baby boomers in the next few years to retirement, I do thinnk that entering the county illegaly is a crime, be it a misdeminor, still a crime, and criminals should be delt with.

I am of a mind that if you wany in as permission, just try and go to Mexico and buy land, run for office or even try and vote. See how far that gets ya with ol Fox.

261 Matticus Finch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:35:57am

WriterMom-

got any links?

/looking forward to smoking a Cuban cigar soon.

263 mapenguin  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:36:14am

#254 Matticus

Where did you hear that?

264 Baldy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:36:21am

227 Kenneth - I'm shocked they printed the name. It's a dead give-away. I thought as much, as video of the riots showed many "students" seemed as swarthy as the "N African Immigrants" who rioted last year.

265 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:36:33am

#231 WriterMom

She must be in that special Fwench ethnic group known as "dissaffected yout's"

Yup, I bet that's who Halima is.

266 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:36:44am
If yes, I have 3 different kinds and 2 of those have 2 balls each in different sizes...

Rats. I'd always pictured you in a peignoir, with frizzy hair and a long-filtered cigarette, stroking an expensive, hairless cat.

267 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:37:00am

Gee, I love getting unsolicited stock tips by e-mail with subject lines like "ejaculate quaver", really inspires confidence in the company being touted.

/nevermind that the stocks usually trade for less than a quarter

268 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:37:10am

#261 M.F

Your wish is my command...

But I think I would get in trouble if I mailed you cigars from Canada...

269 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:37:39am

#225 crosspatch

I have nothing but respect for those guys and the millions of others like them who are NOT allergic to work, who don't blame anyone else for their lot in life and are just wanting a chance to work hard and succeed just like everyone else...

What kind of a lousy country gets rid of such wonderful hardworking people? What kind of a marxistcommunist philosophy would force such folks to run for their lives to the place their citizens call EVIL AmericaCapitalista?

Our problem is their country's corrupt system and philosophy--marxist greed is good for the guys at the top ONLY--there's no opportunity to escape poverty or reach middle class for hardworking poor people.

It's the marxist philosophy, estupido gobierno mejicano.

270 quark2  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:38:11am

@158 crosspatch

Yeup, let's reward those here in the process daily of breaking federal laws installed to protect the country and its citizens. Let's tell them, you go boy! Let's reward them for breaking laws. What makes you assume they'll be law abiding if rewarded for the laws they've already broken?
Nice reward for those who came to this country legally, paying thousands of dollars to do so.
Just like my nephews wife who is legally here from Mexico.
And by all means show those wannabees just waiting to cross over illegally, hey lookee here you can get rewarded for breaking United States federal laws!
We went through this crap back in the '80s, and it encouraged more to break the law.
Great idea, lets all jump on the breaking the law band wagon.

271 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:38:26am

#265 Kenneth

Meanie! Mean, mean, person!

*hahahahaha*

272 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:38:28am
273 Matticus Finch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:38:29am

mapenguin-

a link at Malkin's site (michellemalkin.com), attached to the Carroll story.

274 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:38:29am

writermom:

I think Val Prieto has the best response to the rumors of Castro's death (thus far only rumor - no official word).

His death, like those of Arafat and the other thugs throughout history, cannot come soon enough. When it does happen, you can be sure that the exile community will be popping corks like there's no tomorrow. Not that it would bring about change in Cuba immediately, mind you, but the seeds of freedom would be set in play.

275 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:38:39am

We could solve this immigration problem by annexing Mexico. We could cut a deal with Fox.

276 E.T.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:39:28am

241 Keeping the labor market underground is what the employers want. In this way they won’t have to pay them a fair wage or provide adequate working conditions. If all current illegal immigrants are made legal they will demand fair wages. Of coarse employers will have none of this so a second wave of illegal immigrants will be needed to fill those jobs “no American is willing to do“ ….

277 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:40:03am

#246 AI

P.S. And what does your nickname mean or stand for?!?!?

Hmmm I must be older than you.

In todays term it means (LIFEFLIGHT)

Back in my US Army days from years ago I was a Medic and we did medical evac with hueys coppers. The call sign( DUSTOFF) was given to us when one of guys ( Army- Air Force - Marines- Navy) were hurt in combat and needed to be air lifted to a MASH unit. Yes just like the old TV show.

Does that help.

278 skwired  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:40:37am

This has to be one of the dumbest statements made by a French person.

279 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:41:01am

#267 Killian Budy

I hate those penny stock emails too.

280 Matticus Finch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:41:24am

WriterMom-

Please don't tease the animals (me).

281 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:42:26am

259 traveler

Thanks.. I just bookmarked both links.. here is a quote from Frontpage:

(

3) Economic parasitism—to maintain and increase the flow of billions of dollars that Mexicans in the U.S. send back to their relatives at home every year, a major factor keeping the chronically troubled Mexican economy afloat and the corrupt Mexican political system cocooned in its status quo.

This segues perfectly into Alegrias' posts on the political situation in Mexico. And I have to agree with you on the spread of corruption into the US.. it is already here. People have no idea that ranchers down along the border where intimidated into selling off land that had been in their families for generations to drug cartels.

Last year in Nuevo Laredo, a border town in Texas a house was attacked by drug dealers using rocket propelled grenade launchers, grenades, assault rifles...

Dozens of American citizens have gone missing in this border town, many of them kidnapped and most likely, murdered.

282 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:42:34am
283 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:42:44am

#275 godfrey

Then we'd have another zillion people on welfare.

284 NuclearTinkerbell  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:42:52am

#249 Lawrence Schmerel

Nick Berg's father is running for Congress.

It is a neck to neck race, but I think Michael Berg will lose by a head.

Will he be slaughtered or win by a razor thin margin?

285 Chicken Kiev  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:42:53am

#205 walter l newton


Thanks for speaking up to the BBC about their "euphemisms." I for one am sick of it too.

Journalists bury the truth because they think it will save their lives on the Night of the Long Scimitars.

It won't.

286 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:43:56am

Cool Yankee ingenuity!

US to test 700-tonne explosive

The US military plans to detonate a 700 tonne explosive charge in a test called "Divine Strake" that will send a mushroom cloud over Las Vegas, a senior defense official said...

Tegnelia said the test was part of a US effort to develop weapons capable of destroying deeply buried bunkers housing nuclear, chemical or biological weapons.

"We have several very large penetrators we're developing," he told defense reporters.

"We also have -- are you ready for this - a 700-tonne explosively formed charge that we're going to be putting in a tunnel in Nevada," he said.

"And that represents to us the largest single explosive that we could imagine doing conventionally to solve that problem," he said.

The aim is to measure the effect of the blast on hard granite structures, he said...

"We're also making sure that Las Vegas* understands," Tegnelia said.

*Oh, and maybe Teheran will get the message too?

287 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:44:15am
288 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:45:26am
#275 godfrey 3/30/2006 11:38AM PST

We could solve this immigration problem by annexing Mexico. We could cut a deal with Fox.

Too late. Mexico annexed all the border states. They are now, Californico, New Old Mexico, and Texmexas

289 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:45:28am

#209, AI

The Times, it seems, has chosen ignorance.

And this is news?

290 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:45:37am

#256 Baldy

25-year-old Fatema Akhter Kohinoor, a teacher,

What a beautiful name to suffer such a fate. There was a brand of fine coloring pencils made in Germany called "Kohinoor" which made me think of mysterious India and the Hindu kush, back when we thought moslem world was quaint but far far away from us.

Bless that poor woman trying to break moslem mental shackles.

291 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:46:14am

Re: 279 Ward Cleaver

#267 Killian Budy

I hate those penny stock emails too.

When I have the time and I'm in the mood, I forward them to the FTC.

Once I got spam advertising child porn. I reported that one to the FBI. It was from a server in Israel and had an email address in Russia (or vice-versa), and I'm not the only one who reported it, because a child porn ring that fit the description was shut down a few months later.

What I find annoying is how hard it can be to report phishing attempts. Once I got one from a major bank whose name begins with Ci. They told me where to send it, but I got a rejection notice that it was stuck in a spam filter and gave up. You want the spam to go to the "report phishing" email addresses! They have since fixed the problem.

292 Baldy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:46:36am

I have no problem with LEGAL immigrants. The big things I want are: knowledge of who is coming in, English as a national language, and assimilation. There are people in my neighborhood that are immigrants (not Mexican) who don't seem to like us. I wonder WHY they are here? We had an illegal HAZMAT driver's license ring running out of Pittsburgh. ALL/Most of the criminals were IRAQIS. This was BEFORE 9/11. They got slapped on the wrists. Then there's the illegal Chinese. The Chinese "students," who have their tuition paid for by the Chinese military... It is a disaster. BOTH parties have been incredibly careless. I just hope when the next attack comes, as few people as possible die. Their blood will be on our govt's hands. Executive, Legislative & Judicial. Democrat & Republican. All (except for a handful of Republicans) are guilty of negligence.

293 traveler  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:46:48am

#281 Bubble Girl

Last year in Nuevo Laredo, a border town in Texas a house was attacked by drug dealers using rocket propelled grenade launchers, grenades, assault rifles...Dozens of American citizens have gone missing in this border town, many of them kidnapped and most likely, murdered.

I know it well -- it wasn't too long ago I had friends who would go there in big groups for shopping expeditions. Not any more.

Just wonder how long we can keep the lawlessness on that side of the border. It's just a matter of time before it boils over.

294 Chicken Kiev  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:47:37am

#207 z9z99

feelin' near as faded as my genes

I can't stop laughing! That's a great one.

You know, it strikes me that these funny filks you folks are creating are actually THE NEW PROTEST SONGS. Billy Bragg and his ilk think they are writing protest songs when what they are doing is being pied pipers, playing hypnotic tunes to lead the dhimmis to their doom ("and they were never seen again") ... yet Lizards are writing the real protest songs now.

Stoke up your mp3s, and let a thousand guitars strum.

295 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:48:00am

#254,

Any celebratory gunfire in Miami?

296 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:48:03am
297 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:48:32am

bubbles

Oh, that. That's just an opening bid. We should counter-offer.

Seriously, what is Mexico worth? GW is spending like mad, this might be a good time.

Come on, Fwance sold us Louisiana for what, 1.x million?

Think of the beaches.

298 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:48:37am

BERLIN, Germany (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Thursday that Iran does not need to give up on nuclear energy, just uranium enrichment that could lead to nuclear weapons.


OK, is she so smart (she did get multiple degrees at a very early age, and could have been a concert pianist or figure skater) I just can't figure this out, or has the Foggy Bottom rot affected her brain?

Iran, with immense reserves of natural gas, difficult to export but perfect for use in gas turbine generators, is the last nation on Earth that could have a legitimate use for nuclear power.

299 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:48:59am

#287 AI

So does that mean you fly helicopters today, or was that your occupation while being in the military?!?


Yes I fly helo's today, but for the fun of it.
I was a medic back then.
I'm a Firefighter for a small town in Washington state.

300 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:49:19am

Ward Cleaver

Hi Ward!

And eventually those who work and pay taxes will dwindle until those on government assistance are the majority block of voters..

Like a teeter-totter.. the tax payer will be the skinny guy on one end...

301 Dave the.....  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:50:06am

#278 skwired

This has to be one of the dumbest statements made by a French person.

"We are here for our children. We are very worried about what will happento them," said Philippe Decrulle, an Air France flight attendant. "My son is 23 and he has no job. That is normal inFrance."

Being economically illiterate is one of the worst kinds of ignorance.

302 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:50:29am

271 WriterMom

Mean? But I was trying to be nuanced and sensitive...geesh, it's so hard being a libera! You have to think all kinds of contradictory things...my brain is starting to hurt.

303 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:50:33am

chicken kiev

I second that.

304 traveler  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:50:35am

#297 godfrey

Think of the beaches.

Ahhh...

305 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:51:03am

V. Fox isn't running for re-election and one of the two guys in the lead for President of Mexico is a confirmed leftist in the mold of Hugo Chavez.

306 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:51:06am

#288 Bubble Girl

Only thing left to do then is to set up a guerilla movement to disrupt the enemy command and control while awaiting troops.

307 Matticus Finch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:51:24am

Dar-

Not yet, but I can assure you there'll be some in Texas, if this turns out to be true.

/starts loading bb's (I moved to the city)

308 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:51:42am
309 dominigan  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:51:44am

#57

1) High school students. Seriously. When I was helping out with our teen group from church last year, all I kept hearing about in our small group was how hard it was to find a part time job that paid enough to cover car insurance and gas.

Plus, illegal immegrants depress wages of currently employed workers. I have a good friend who is an excellent roofer. He is the hardest (and fastest!) worker I know, and takes great pride in the quality of his work. Yet, he can't get any decent raises out of his boss because the company can pay for three illegals for the price of his single wage. Nevermind that he has to regularly fix about everything they touch.

310 Baldy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:51:52am

Rush is talking about George Mason, but NOT about the Palestinian garb on the statue. He is talking about how UAE residents are so happy about the BB...

311 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:52:38am

SPC will upgrade DFW area from no risk to SLIGHT RISK at 2pm update

312 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:53:40am

Abdul Rahman thanks Pope Benedict for coming to his assistance and says he feared for his life in Afghanistan.

"In Kabul they would have killed me, I'm sure of it." Abdul Rahman, who is under protection after being spirited out of Afghanistan to a secret location in Italy earlier in the week, told Italian journalists. "If you are not a Muslim in an Islamic country like mine they kill you, there are no doubts." He said he was worried for his family still in Afghanistan.
313 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:53:44am
314 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:54:13am

#262 writermom

Just FYI, Spain's former Generalissimo Francisco Franco was no friend of Fidel Castro or any other Marxistcommunist whom he fought a bloody civil war to rout from Spain.

MarxistMexico hated Franco, for example.

Franco worked with the USA from WWII until he died in 1975, granted us military bases and welcoming Hemingway, Sinatra, Ava Gardner and all sorts of Westerners and Americans who lived and loved there.

Lastly, Franco returned Spain to prosperity, modernity and civilian constitutional rule without another war. His latterday MarxistSocialist red diaper baby succesors are the ones digging Spain's grave today.

315 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:54:47am

293 traveler

I know it well too. And this is all happening within our lifetime.

This is not to impugn the basic friendliness and many good hard working people from down south who come to this country looking for a better life. But they are tacitly allowing their own corrupt government to continue while taking advantage of the good nature of America.

316 Matticus Finch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:55:03am

Ed-

SPC will upgrade DFW area from no risk to SLIGHT RISK at 2pm update


Nothing will happen until they move it up to CERTAINTY. And even then we'll get a 50-50 shot.

317 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:55:13am

dave the...

My son is 23 and he has no job. That is normal in France.

It's tempting to say "then MAKE one, you idiot!" But can you imagine starting a small business in a socialist nanny-state like France? Save some time by chaining yourself to a pole and beating your brains out with a stale baguette.

318 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:57:11am
319 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:57:16am

Meet Mexico's Next President

Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador - yet another leftist Latino. And it will be the Republicans that enable him with their disatrous immigration proposal.

320 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:57:30am

#274 lawhawk

Yep-good riddance to bad rubbish. If he is REALLY REALLY REALLY DEAD, then I'm going to have to listen to moonbat colleagues talk about how fabulous the Cuban health system is because of him, and how the Cuban literacy rates are like-500 bazillion %, or thereabouts..

#280 M.F

I have been called many things..but never a tease!

321 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:57:43am

godfrey

Buy Mexico? I think you are on to something. They can all come up here and we can go down there..

Dibs on beachfront house..

322 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:57:52am

errr..."disastrous" (sic)

323 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:58:43am

#317 godfrey

Hilarious..

Save some time by chaining yourself to a pole and beating your brains out with a stale baguette.

That could well be a job-"performance art".

324 Miss Trixie  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 9:59:50am

AI

I also have PINK FLAMINGOS...

Well. Why am I not surprised?

;p

325 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:00:02am

Godfrey

We could trade Louisiana for Mexico...

326 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:00:17am
#298 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

I just can't figure this out, or has the Foggy Bottom rot affected her brain?

Iran, with immense reserves of natural gas, difficult to export but perfect for use in gas turbine generators, is the last nation on Earth that could have a legitimate use for nuclear power.

As a signatoty to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), Iran is allowed to develop a civilian nuclear energy program. Thank the Eisenhower administration for a lack of foresight on that one.

/that said, Iran doesn't need one and, if W doesn't chicken out, they'll lose their uranium enrichment tinkertoys before he leaves office

327 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:01:25am

Is it time for another Revolution? I think it is.

[Link: f-o-l.blogspot.com...]

328 Dianna  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:01:51am

I am making this comment out of pure irritation.

Regarding the fact that some illegal aliens are criminals, remember that Bugsy Siegel was jewish. So were several other very scary gangsters. Several were foreign born.

See: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Isr ael/gangsters.html

Get excited about the lack of security on the border, get excited about social costs, get excited about all the other issues and the hell of exploitation a lot of illegals suffer. But the criminal issue is a red herring.

329 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:01:52am

296 American Infidel

You might be surprised at how many countries have walls or fences along their borders. India is building one along it's border with Bangeladesh. Pakistan is talking about building one along the Afghan border. Morrocco built a fence along it's border with Mauritania. There are several others

And people whine about a fence Israel is building inside it's own borders to keep a bunch of squatters from running around murdering people.

330 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:01:54am
331 Prester John  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:01:55am

#315

But they are tacitly allowing their own corrupt government to continue while taking advantage of the good nature of America.

And why shouldn't they? Putting aside for the moment the not insignificant issue of whether or not they are here illegally, isn't that what just about every immigrant group to the US has done? Why stay in the old, corrupt monarchies, semi-democracies and Communist dictatorships of old Europe when they could to the land of opportunity and be whatever their God-given talents would allow them to be?

What would be nice, of course, is if they'd only come here according to the rules.

332 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:02:23am

#314 alegrias

I was joking about the reluctance to pronounce scummy thug "leaders" DEAD.

You seem to have a very positive view of Franco, though...whatever floats your boat...

333 Baldy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:02:40am

Osama Will Strike US, Says his former bodyguard (DrudgeReport.com)

60 MINUTES: OSAMA BIN LADEN'S FORMER PERSONAL BODYGUARD IS CERTAIN THE AL-QAEDA LEADER IS PLANNING A NEW ATTACK AGAINST THE U.S.
334 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:03:37am
335 pat  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:05:15am

Baldy
Hasn't that guy been out of circulation for a while?

336 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:05:19am
337 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:06:48am
338 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:07:08am

#321 Bubblegirl

Dibs on beachfront house..


Sorry, but Mexico will not allow anyone other than Mexicans to own land along the beach areas.

339 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:07:49am

330- American Infidel

The Illegals strike would be a good time for all the unemployed AMERICAN people and college kids to go take those jobs. And send those invited guests back to their pisshole.

340 Miss Trixie  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:08:18am

AI

Yes, why is it that you are not surprised?!?

They fit your, um, *cough*eccentric*cough* personality.

:D

341 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:08:34am

#317 godfrey:

It's tempting to say "then MAKE RIOT FOR one, you idiot!"

Fixed that for ya.

342 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:08:36am

# 185 crosspatch

Absolutely correct. Very good.

343 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:09:10am
#286 Kenneth

Cool Yankee ingenuity!

US to test 700-tonne explosive

I'm not so sure how useful something like that would be against an enemy. I'm pretty sure it'd be too heavy to deliver, even by rail.

/you'd probably have to assemble it on site

344 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:10:15am

Vicente Fox: U.S. Will 'Beg' for Mexican Workers

We ARE begging. Begging for our government to make them to go home.

345 Jack Reacher  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:10:48am

#330 American Infidel
On a related note, at a customer site yesterday I saw Sunday's Los Angeles Times. The front-page article about the massive "pro-immigrant" marches in L.A. on Saturday mentioned the crowds waving their American flags.

Funny; I saw coverage of those marches on television, and while I saw plenty of Mexican flags waving, Stars & Stripes were in short supply.

L.A. Times; All the news that's unfit.

346 BIG  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:11:06am

But...but...if we buy Mexico, wouldn't that mean we are going to have to tear down that imperialistic fence along the southern border that keeps the Hondourans, and Salvadorians out?

347 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:11:17am

#332 writermom

You seem to have a very positive view of Franco, though...whatever floats your boat...

Yes as a matter of fact I do have positive view of Franco--I owe him my life because he was ruthless about beating the anticlerical marxistcommunists who caused my grandmother to miscarry when communists came to her door looking for my grandfather for the crime of being a ...business man in Spain.

Franco worked with the US to end Spain's post-islamic decline and bring democracy back in 1939, versus 1991 for communist-held countries.

Franco was ahead of his time as a strongman who devolved military regimes to functioning democracies.

348 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:11:34am

dust-off

This is after we trade Louisiana for Mexico... Sort of a reverse Louisiana Purchase...

349 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:11:55am

Unpdate on Pakistani Radio Jihad...
Mortar attack destroys religious sect’s radio station in Pakistan

A mortar fired by Pakistani security forces destroyed a radio station, ending controversial broadcasts that had sparked deadly gunbattles between armed supporters of two religious factions this week, witnesses said on Thursday.

The attack late Wednesday on the small FM radio station _ during a broadcast of a religious sermon _ slightly injured 15 people in the northwestern tribal town of Bara, said Mangal Bagh Afridi, a leading supporter of the cleric who had set up the station three years ago.

That's how you solve a problem.

350 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:12:10am
351 eLoser  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:13:22am

wrt to jawareport on castro's passing, this quote stands out:

May 29th, 10:22 P.M.

perhaps it's another one of nostradamus' predictions?

also another word to you lizzzards who like to use your real names & cities of origin:

please STOP!; there's some nutjobs out there who would love to harrass (or worse)

352 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:13:53am

#348 Bubblegirl

This is after we trade Louisiana for Mexico... Sort of a reverse Louisiana Purchase...


Works for me. Where do i sigh up. (-:

353 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:13:54am
354 maddog44  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:15:14am

#344 Stuck-in-CA.

If Vicente Fox was any more full of shit, The Mexican economy would be based on mining him.

355 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:15:30am


#346 BIG 3/30/2006 12:11PM PST

But...but...if we buy Mexico, wouldn't that mean we are going to have to tear down that imperialistic fence along the southern border that keeps the Hondourans, and Salvadorians out?

We think alike.. I considered including this same scenario in my post..

Funny, but it's true. Two Hondurans were arrested in Mexico on a bus.. because a week earlier robbers dressed as clowns held up a bus..

The Hondurans were trying to make their way illegally through Mexico to the US, dressed as clowns.. they were former circus performers.. when they got on the bus the people thought they were the robbers..

The police ended up arresting the two men, the bus driver and the owner of the bus company

356 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:15:56am
357 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:16:00am
High school students. Seriously. When I was helping out with our teen group from church last year, all I kept hearing about in our small group was how hard it was to find a part time job that paid enough to cover car insurance and gas.

I am an adult and finding a PART TIME job that would cover our car insurance and gas would be hard to do. That sort of conveys to me a wrong way of approaching things. If you can't afford car insurance and as much gas as you want to burn on part time employment, you need to either change your employment or your expectations. I don't see it written into the constitution where either of those things are a right. It doesn't even say that life has to be fair. You have to bust your ass. If you can't afford the insurance, hoof it, ride a bike, use the bus ... oh, right, those forms of transport are for the commoners.

I don't mean to dis your friend, I am saying I see this attitude a lot. The attitude of "I have this set of expectations but I am only willing to exert a certain amount of effort to achieving them and since I can't meet the expectatations with that level of effort or sacrifice, I am going to be bitter about it".

I say it's crap. If someone wants something bad enough they will find a way if they have the gumption.

And the market is trying to tell your friend the roofer something. It is telling him that he needs to go down to Home Depot, grab a few from that Casual Labor line to make a crew and go into the roofing business on his own rather than try to compete with those casual laborers as an employee. He is a good roofer, he could make sure his guys do a good job. He can charge the same as others using migrant labor and do better quality work. If you charge a good price for a good job, word will get around and people will seek you out. I owned my own business for several years (inhereted from my Dad who built it himself) and had all the work I could do. Dad taught me that if you are run over with more work than you can do, you aren't charging enough. If business is always slack, you are charging more than the value people place on your service.

Yeah, the world doesn't always work the way we wish it would. You can complain about that, or pay attention to conditions and adapt. Those that do that do well. The ones that sit around and complain end up doing that pretty well too.

358 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:16:32am

#343 Killian Bundy

True. In the article the test planner referred to points on a curve and computer modelling. My guess is the purpose of this test is to measure the effects of a huge shaped charge explosion and the data from that, and other tests, will be used to design actual weapons.

Considering what a 20 lb shaped charge can do to an armoured vehicle, imagine what a 700 ton shaped charge will do to granite.

Kinda makes me go...hmmm...

359 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:17:06am

Well, obviously I've missed way too much of the thread to ever catch up.

360 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:17:46am

#349 KB:

A mortar fired by Pakistani security forces destroyed a radio station, ending controversial broadcasts that had sparked deadly gunbattles between armed supporters of two religious factions

Now that's just not cricket.

361 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:18:11am

#347 alegrias

While I can understand your personal gratitude-Franco was not a nice person, or "good" leader. He aligned himself with Hitler, allowing the Nazis to use Spanish naval bases-and only became "neutral" in 1943 when it was pretty clear that the Allies would be winning the war.

He also had some pretty heavy duty prison camps, and his disgusting mausoleum was built with slave labour.

German trains also ran on time in Nazi Germany.

362 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:18:30am
352 Dustoff

Works for me. Where do i sigh up. (-:

We are still working on the details.. New Orleans has declared itself a new country.. Mardi Gras, New Orleans will be:

Chocolate City with Mayor Nagin as the Supreme Ruler..

363 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:18:31am

#353 Ai

You keep speaking of these Pink Birds on the front lawn.

Do you by chance live in FL?

364 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:19:56am

#354 maddog

Fox may be the guy full of sh*t. But Bush seems to be the guy willingly eating said sh*t.

365 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:20:27am

352 eLoser

Thanks for your post.

366 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:20:43am
367 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:20:49am

#357 crosspatch

Thank you for that fine lesson in applied economics 101, supply & demand for self-starters. Truly many of us have it too good while our troops are out there dying for our 'system.' Thank you troops, now I'll try harder to deserve your sacrifice.

368 Jimmy The Clam  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:20:54am

#328 Dianna

Get excited about the lack of security on the border, get excited about social costs, get excited about all the other issues and the hell of exploitation a lot of illegals suffer. But the criminal issue is a red herring.

33% - 40% of our state prison population are illegal alliens when illegal aliens make up only 4%-5% of our total population.

They are an EXCESSIVELY criminal group when compared to the normal population Dianna.

In Los Angeles, over 90% of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total over 1,200) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

Linkage

More

The Federal Bureau of Prisons

369 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:21:58am
370 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:22:06am

Jeebus, I step out for a pee and now we've sold Louisiana down the river.

371 Prester John  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:22:13am

Simple solution. We impose an oil tax on every illegal Mexican immigrant and send the bill to Fox (on a quarterly basis so it woun't be too onerous on the Mexican government). Since we import about 10,000,000 barrels of oil of day, we can set the tax 2 barrels per person per day (at current prices that's about $50,000 per person per year). At 5,000,000 illegals, there's goes our dependency on foreign oil.

372 squarepeg  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:23:05am

#328

Dianna, WTF about Jewish criminals?

I scrolled up a little ways to see what this was in response to, but I can't seem to get a context that would make it appear reasonable.

373 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:23:50am
374 Miss Trixie  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:24:26am

AI

gazing balls

:-X

375 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:24:29am
#370 godfrey 3/30/2006 12:22PM PST

Jeebus, I step out for a pee and now we've sold Louisiana down the river.

LOL... start packing man..

376 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:25:07am

Miss Trixie

Hey you! Thought I should say hi..

377 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:25:55am
378 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:26:04am

#362 Bubblegirl


Mardi Gras, New Orleans will be:

Chocolate City with Mayor Nagin as the Supreme Ruler..


My-o-my young lady. I could add so much to this, but my best thing to do is just not say a word. (-:

379 maddog44  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:26:30am

#364 Eric Cartman's Consience
I can't argue with that, GWB seems to have a weakness for Mexican Bullshit alright.
(Or Mexican-American voters anyway, he is, after all, a politician).

380 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:27:06am

371 Prestor John

good idea. We have anywhere from 15 - 25 million illegals here now and more coming in every day. Fox even had maps given out that should the best places to get across the border... for the illegals.. not the Mexican tourists..

381 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:27:41am

#361 writermom

Franco kicked communist butt, left the Axis powers to allign with the US and worked with the US happily everafter. Saved my family from death, allowed them to return & re-build their business, had no Soviet-style gulags or ComEcon, put down Basque terrorists. Returned country to modernity, prosperity & democracy without UN or EU help.

Sorry but as far as military dictators go, you could do worse than feeble ol Franco.

382 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:28:03am

#366 AI

gazing balls...

ACK! Fot the second time today. I'm going to keep my trap shut! 0-:

383 Miss Trixie  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:28:21am

{BUBBLIES!}

Hiya, toots! What snoo?

:D

AI

LOL!

;p

/crap. It's quittin' time. Let's talk tomorrow.
//bad timing, dammit

384 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:28:25am

360 OR

It appears to be some sort of explosive badminton.

385 cbinflux  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:28:34am

Nagin on Abortion:
"I don't care how they get back, Roe or Wade!"

386 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:29:53am

Dust-off

Here you go...

Speaking to a fraction of the crowd typically drawn to a holiday parade honoring the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin on Monday predicted that displaced African-American residents will return to the rebuilt city and it "will be chocolate at the end of the day."

"This city will be a majority African-American city. It's the way God wants it to be," Nagin said. "You can't have it no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."



http://www.nola.com/frontpage/t-p/index.ssf?/base/ news-4/113

387 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:30:09am

# 373 AI

Neither, I'm afraid. TGoP is out running post-work errands and I've been dealing with business paperwork and the daughters. We're going to try a newly-opened place in town tonight, so no cooking or such here. As a consolation prize, though, I am doing laundry. littleoldlady would be proud of me !

388 Prester John  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:30:14am

#380 And then Fox needs to decide what is more important, giving us the oil in exchange for all the money his countrymen is sending back to Mexcio, or tightening up his side of the border so he has the oil to sell on the world market while having to deal with all his unhappy, poor, voting citizens. And then of course if Fox refuses, well, we can probably come up with a few options.

389 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:30:25am
390 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:31:03am

#379 Maddog

I saw a television interview a couple days ago with an Indian man who recently became a legal citizen of the US. He was talking about the recent immigration rallies in LA. He said "it is not fair what they are doing. The do not come here the right way. Am I too a racist for saying these things? I am browner than all of them!" The guy was pissed! - good stuff...good stuff.

391 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:31:11am
392 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:31:16am

After Nagin's chocolate city remark, I was waiting for Hershey's to sue, but they didn't.

Maybe Nagin is really Willy Wanker.

393 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:31:41am

Jill Carrol update...
Germans Arrest Man in $2 Million Jill Carroll Extortion Plot

German authorities have arrested a man who is accused of trying to extort $2 million from the Christian Science Monitor by promising to win the release of American reporter Jill Carroll, who was freed from captivity in Baghdad Thursday.
...
David Cook, chief of the paper's Washington bureau, alerted the FBI in an effort to determine if the person on other end of the e-mails really could help find Carroll, the court papers said. FBI counterterrorism agents quickly decided he could not and turned the probe over to fraud investigators.

I'm guessing that since the CSM alerted the FBI the prospect of the paper paying a ransom look unlikely.

I would drop this on the thread below but it's degraded into a digusting irrational hatefest.

394 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:31:42am

#368 Mr. Clam

33% - 40% of our state prison population are illegal aliens

Which raises the question of why we would bother jailing these people and not deport them.

Short term: helps prison overcrowding and taxpayer costs. Long term: At least when they are in our prisons we know where they are and they won't be back over the border, free as a bird in days.

395 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:32:23am
396 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:33:18am

With all this talk of selling Louisiana to Mexico, may I remind all of you basketball losers that *both* the men and women of LSU are in the Final Four? Hmm?

Save the USA. Buy Mexico.

397 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:33:32am

#332 Writermom

"You seem to have a very positive view of Franco, though...whatever floats your boat..."

You need to read up on Spain's civil in the mid-1930s. Communists were mass murdering those who didn't fit their agenda. I recall my uncle telling me that 8,000 people were slaughtered, some of them children, outside of Madrid because they had relatives in the national army. Franco did alot for Spain, but he is is contantly villified by the left as a dictator, which is historically correct, without any context how that came to be. The reds in Spain still have never forgiven him.

398 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:34:00am
399 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:34:39am

Did you miss me? What were we discussing? Gnomes?

400 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:34:46am
401 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:35:15am

godfrey

We aren't selling Louisiana to Mexico.. it is merely a Foreign Exchange Program..

Perhaps you can teach the Mexicans how to play basketball.

:D

402 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:35:26am

#386 Bubblegirl

Here you go...

Speaking to a fraction of the crowd typically drawn to a holiday parade honoring the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin on Monday predicted that displaced African-American residents will return to the rebuilt city and it "will be chocolate at the end of the day."

"This city will be a majority African-American city. It's the way God wants it to be," Nagin said. "You can't have it no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."

I could really throw some heavy cuss words about this guy, but instead. He's a dumb-ass

403 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:35:33am
404 dll2000  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:36:07am

From Mark Steyn:

[In a more culturally confident age, the British in India were faced with the practice of "suttee" — the tradition of burning widows on the funeral pyres of their husbands. General Sir Charles Napier was impeccably multicultural:


''You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: When men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows.You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."]

When men were men.

405 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:36:13am

#399 Peacekeeper

Actually, Underpants Gnomes. We were on to "step 3: Profits"

406 tfbu  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:36:15am

Just heard on the 12:30 PST news on KFMB in San Diego, at the end of the article about jill carroll.

"The US military had NOTHING to do with her release"

Just sets my hair on fire to hear editorial crap presented as news. The word 'nothing' was empahasised by the news tool.

The the station returned to the Sean Hannity show.

407 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:36:24am

#390 Eric Cartman's

I am browner than all of them!"

I love this man.

408 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:36:30am
409 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:37:08am
I am browner than all of them!

My skin is "olive." I demand pro-rated benefits, dammit!

410 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:37:14am

Peacekeeper

We are discussing trading Louisiana for Mexico. New Orleans is balking, Nagin has declared NOLA a separate country from the US.. and taken over as Supreme Ruler, King Of Mardi Gras

411 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:37:52am

#406 tfbu:

Note that the US military said that it wasn't involved. That doesn't mean that Iraqi military or other coalition forces weren't involved. We simply don't have any information other than that the US said it wasn't involved.

Judy Klinghoffer seems to think that ransom was paid for Carroll's release. That's a possibility.

412 DesertSage  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:38:38am

Cypress-

Turkey has constructed and maintains a 300 km (187 mile) separation barrier along the 1974 Green Line (or ceasefire line) between the Turkish controlled northern one-third and independent southern two-thirds of Cyprus to separate Turkish and Greek Cypriot populations.

India-

India is completing a separation barrier between Indian and Pakistani controlled areas of Kashmir to prevent infiltration by Pakistani based militants. It is also working on another one surrounding Bangladesh to prevent smuggling, illegal immigration and possible inflitration by terrorists.

Korea-

South Korea has constructed a separation barrier between its territory and North Korea to obstruct any southward movement by the army of North Korea.

Morocco-

Morocco has constructed a separation barrier in Western Sahara and Morocco to keep the guerrilla fighters of Polisario out of Morocco and the economically interesting two-thirds of the Western Sahara.

Saudi Arabia-

Saudi Arabia has begun construction of a separation barrier or fence between its territory and Yemen to prevent the unauthorized movement of people and goods into and out of the Kingdom.

Spain-

The European Union and Spain have constructed barriers between the Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla and Morocco to prevent illegal immigration and smuggling.

Thailand-

Thailand plans to build a concrete fence along parts of its border with Malaysia to keep Muslim militants and dual citizens from crossing Thailand's southern border with Malaysia.

Seems like good fences make good neighbors...

413 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:38:40am

Speaking of gnomes, the first time I read this story, I thought London had passed a tax on garden gnomes.

A disabled council tax rebel has sent her collection of garden gnomes into hiding to avoid them being seized by local officials.

The officials had threatened to take the gnomes from widow Gwynneth Lester in Fareham, about 70 miles southwest of London, after she refused to pay up.

414 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:38:58am
415 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:38:59am
416 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:39:16am

#368 Jimmy The Clam - good post, great links.
Thanks for shedding some illumination on a cloudy subject.

417 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:39:38am

Update

As I mentioned on a previous thread, I have a daughter who just went through all the training for the start-up of a brand-new Borders bookstore here. The word is that, no - there is no official policy on shelving the Qur'an/Koran. She did promise me to check and see how it is actually shelved. I'll report on that when she gets back to me.

Secondly, several have recommended "Celtic Woman" to me. Haven't seen or heard it, so I requested that same daughter (the Irish Step-Dance teacher) to check it out for me. She reported today that it was more modern/pop/New Age than Celtic, in her (well-educated) opinion. She also listened to the CDs released by several of the participants in the group, and said they were much the same. I have to trust her on this one, so I won't bother with it.

418 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:40:11am

#408 Ai

Yes, it ended with gnomes but we have moved on to pink flamingos and now the topic is gazing balls...


Damn girl, did you have to go there again! 0-:

I need some soap.

419 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:40:28am

402 Dustoff

"This city will be a majority African-American city. It's the way God wants it to be," Nagin said. "You can't have it no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."

I could really throw some heavy cuss words about this guy, but instead. He's a dumb-ass

You know, Dustoff, you are a fire fighter who answers to the Mayor, I guess. or some authority figure in your area. And this man was responsible for the deaths of thousands and yet he is still there. His party even sued to delay the upcoming mayoral election but a judge just ruled once again that the election will go on as planned. I wonder what the emergency workers down in NOLA think of Nagin?

420 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:41:17am
421 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:41:35am

Bubbles
Nagin strikes me as having a future in sub-saharan despotism...

422 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:42:02am
a veteran anti-war activist

That's not quote cricket. Preferred usage is aged anti-war activist.

423 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:42:10am

And the UN twiddles it's thumbs.

Where's the outrage?

The death rate from conflict in northern Uganda, an area terrorized by a rebel army largely comprised of children, is three times higher than Iraq after the U.S-led invasion, according to a new report by leading humanitarian agencies.
The violent death rate for the region stands at 146 deaths per week, or .17 deaths per 10,000 each day. Incidences of violent death in Iraq after coalition forces invaded in 2003 were estimated at .052, said the report released Thursday by a cadre of more than 50 non-governmental organizations.

Oh, yeah, they can't blame this on the Bush Administration. I forgot what their agenda really is.

424 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:42:20am

371- Prester John


Good idea. How can the Bush Oil Men NOT go for the "Oil Solution to the Mexican Problem"?

425 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:42:45am

415 Peacekeeper

Facts? That's a funny strange title for a mooning gnome. This is isn't a photo of you, is it?

:D

426 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:43:44am

Not that i can identify the acronym AN/FO but the F word is probably for the fucking big boom it makes.

427 PDM  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:43:47am

School's 'Holocaust' Experiment Upsets Parents
Dad: Son Cried Over Becoming Jew For Day

"He was forced to go to the back of the lunch line four times by an administrator," Tinnelly said.

Tinnelly said the experiment upset his child.

"He was crying," Tinnelly said. "I said, 'What are you crying about?' He said, 'Daddy, I was a Jew today.'"

Other parents and children shared similar stories, Tinnelly said.

"They were told that they could not use the water fountains," Tinnely said. "There was even a sign supposedly at one water fountain (saying) if you're wearing a yellow star , you can't use this water fountain."

"This was supposed to be a creative way to teach the horrors of the Holocaust but unfortunately it has sparked controversy and more importantly it has sparked conversation," Reznick said. "We have now heard from nearly a dozen parents (who are) very upset."

Tinnelly said he believes it is important to teach the Holocaust, but apparently little was learned during the experiment.

"I tried to talk to my son and I asked all of these questions and the only thing he said is, 'Daddy, the only thing I found out today is I don't want to be Jewish,'" Tinnelly said.

428 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:44:09am

#397 Buckeye

Thank you for that. It amazes me how educated Westerners still put down Catholic, conservative anti-communist, pro-US General Franco while treating as rightful leaders today's infinitely worse, LIVING, Fidel Castro-type marxistcommunists who rule gulags and export terrorism & narco & human trafficking and actively undermine the USA.

Hope these folks are happy with their djhimmi Socialist Zapatero in charge of poor Spain, no longer led by Conservative Catholic Anti-Communist and anti-terrorist pro-Americans.

429 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:44:28am

412 Desert Sage

I liked your post, thanks for putting together on the current state of fences in use around the world.

Hi DS...

430 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:45:45am

#412 DesertSage - "separation barriers" oh, yeah, those aren't being built by the JOOOS so we can't call them walls. /S -did I really need this?

Well I'd like to build a separation barrier or wall
along our southern border? Sound Horribly racisist or somesuch? Check out the way Vincente Fox has sealed off Mexico's Southern border.

Link:

431 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:46:05am

I've got two twenties that say both Blanco and Nagin are out. Nobody where I am has taken my bet so far. Even university faculty in the humanities want someone else. Some are praying John Breaux runs against Bobby Jindal (who is browner than all of them).

432 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:46:08am

425 Bubbles
Go ahead, taunt me. I'll turn the other cheek.

433 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:46:23am
434 maddog44  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:46:35am

Eric Cartman's Conscious
I know how he feels. I have a Russian and a Sri Lancan working for me. They are both good people and legal citizens of the U.S. They feel exactly the same way.

435 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:47:01am

Latest RUC forecast says CAP will be breakable soon near Dallas.


Getting first tornado warning of the day for Oklahoma, which is far behind Kansas in today's tornado outbreak.

Stephens County is affected, but well East of the giant Halliburton campus.

Tussy and Pernell in path of tornado, eventually Paul's Valley.

436 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:47:06am

#417 Mike C.
Nice work. I've heard the Koran topshelf rumor without proof before, I'm suspicious. Keep us updated.

437 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:47:17am

#430 realwest

Yes, link?

Richard Miniter was talking about Mexico's southern border the other day, sitting in for Michael Reagan.

438 tfc3rid  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:47:52am

371 Prester John

I believe that is the Michael Savage solution...

439 yehoshua  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:48:09am

The following may sound strange but it could happen:

Jill Carroll writes book extolling virtues of Islam. Liberal ladies all over America start wearing scarves. "Submission is so sublime," becomes the mantra heard on college campuses throughout the nation.

Everyone predicted America would change after 9/11, but this new development was
hardly what they could have expected.

Christians say "love your enemy."
Liberals, taking this just one step further, say "submit to your enemy."

440 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:48:35am

Buckey Abroad and alegrias, I have actually read about Spain, and I hate socialists just as much as I loathe communists.

All I am saying is that Franco was not GOOD. Was he better than other dictators? Possibly. Were there worse dictators? Possibly-but still a dictator, and the Spanish people are still coming to terms with his legacy. Spain is a very, very young democracy after all.

I hope that clarifies.

441 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:48:42am

427 PDM

This is an amazing story on so many levels. I think it was a worthwhile endeavor.

What do you think?

442 DesertSage  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:48:54am

Hi Bubbles
Hi realwest- what happened to your link?

443 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:49:27am

Bartlesville, OKlahoma- watch out

(had a job interview once, didn't get hired).

444 Prester John  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:49:36am

#424 The more I think about it the better I like it. Each state sends a quarterly invoice to Washington, D.C. indicating how much the local governments have spent on medical care, education, police costs etcassociated with dealing with illegal immigrants. The State Department then presents the Mexican ambassador with a quarterly bill payable in oil at the current market rate. If Mexico refuses to pay the bill we build 1 mile of fence per day until they cough it up.

Chinese rep to Blofel in You Only Live Twice when told there is now a down payment required before SPECTRE will snatch the Soviet space capsule, "This is extortion".

Blofel, "Extortion is my business"

445 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:49:42am

#419 Bubblegirl


I wonder what the emergency workers down in NOLA think of Nagin?


Funny you ask that question.
I know a few Firemen who went there to help after the flooding.
Talking with them after they got back was like this.

Some of the Emer people thought he was a complete jerk & fool and should be brought up on charges.

Others were a complete 180. The guy walked on water? It was Bush's fault?

I have no answer for these people.
You know my feelings.

446 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:49:51am

realwest

Beautiful. Even more reason to build the damn thing. If Fox barks about it, point to his fence and say STFU. Easy.

447 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:50:12am

#371 Prester John
#438 tfc3rid

Which Savage stole from somebody here on LGF (can't remember who).

448 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:51:56am

#443 Ed...

At Phillips?

449 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:52:56am

431 godfrey

Is the both the NOLA mayor and the governor's slot up for re-election?

John Breaux, what do you think about him?

450 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:53:01am
451 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:53:20am
452 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:54:36am

# 435 Ed of Many Names

Ah, you are definitely coming into your favorite season now, aren't you ?

# 436 Killgore Trout

Eh - no big deal. I just happen to accidentally be in a situation to get first-hand data. That's not dedicated reporting, just blind-ass luck. I will, however, be very interested to hear how the damned things are actually shelved. Hell - I might even go up there and just look for myself.

453 DesertSage  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:55:07am

#450 Peacekeeper

Think it was Pirates?

454 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:55:10am
455 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:56:08am

Could be shitty maintenance, pirates, terrorists militants or a mine left over from one or another war.

456 windybon  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:57:30am

Ed -

I just got home, there are little rivers running everywhere. Ponds are full, they weren't full when I went to work this morning. I was told it didn't rain long, but it really rained hard. Water is running over the roads because the culverts can't handle all the water. Spring has come to the Great Plains!

457 amir  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:57:43am

Terror attack in Israel, at least four killed. Not sure if that includes suicide bomber or if the explosion was caused by remote control.

458 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:59:06am

#439 Yeo

I've been reading Ferigno's "Prayers for the Assassin". It seems like far-fetched fiction, but who knows. I think you could actually see many disgruntled Catholics and Christians drift towards Islam as the church stands for increasingly little. Also, the treatment of women in Islam has a lot of appeal to angry, unattractive men - so, look to see where they're headed.

459 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:59:30am

#450

According to the U.S. Navy, American divers and helicopters were headed to the scene in the Persian Gulf.

The USA to the rescue again.

Rise in world opinion: 0% But that isn't why we do it, is it? We do it because that's who we are.

460 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 10:59:58am
461 PDM  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:00:46am

#441 Bubble Girl,

I think it was a worthwhile endeavor.

I agree. Though they should have used a 6-pointed star instead.

It reminds me of something my rabbi told me. He went to his grandmother and declared enthusiastically "it's good to be a Jew!"
She replied "what's so good about it?"

462 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:01:43am
463 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:03:03am

I'll give two cheers to Franco. Just imagine how different the world would look if Stalin had won the Spanish Civil War.

464 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:04:51am

#442 DesertSage - I don't know what happened to it! I previewed, posted and went back to top of the thread in an oviously vain attempt to catch up.
crap.

BTW - any further word on the demise of Fidel?

465 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:05:16am
467 amir  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:05:54am

#457 cont

Details unclear on TERROR ATTACK in Israel. There are four bodies. It's still not clear if they are Israeli or Palestinian involved in work accident.

468 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:06:28am

Roman Catholics drifting towards Islam ? Sorry - just don't see it.

469 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:07:08am

#457 amir

Could it be this one?

Terrorist detonates car bomb at gas station located near West Bank settlement of Kedumim; terrorist apparently killed, no other casualties reported. Police estimate terrorist activated car bomb accidentally. Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claim responsibility for attack

It is suspected that a suicide bomber detonated a car he was driving at a gas station located in the West Bank settlement of Kedumim. No casualties were reported apart from the terrorist himself who was killed.

I hope my version is the right one, and only the terrorist was killed.

470 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:07:23am

Bubbles

Mayor is up for grabs, see elections info here.

The racial demographic stats are interesting if true. Seems blacks are returning faster than whites and may already have a majority.

Governor isn't till '07. There's a recall petition.

471 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:07:29am

#465 TFK

So, which will you use to destroy the senate that has you so pissed off today? - choke 'em all with those big mits of yours? Or hit 'em over the head with the other thing?

472 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:07:39am

The only persons who are Catholics or Christians who "drift" towards Islam would be those who have the need to find a religion that teaches women are worse than second class citizens, merely chattel. Submission and domination would be part of their "makeup."

473 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:07:56am
474 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:08:36am

#450 Peacekeeper - do I remember correctly that that is the second ferry to sink in those waters (the first being on it's way to Egypt, IIRC)?

475 Avner.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:08:58am

Suicide Bombing Attack Near Kedumim

[Link: arutzsheva.com...]

(IsraelNN.com) According to preliminary and yet unconfirmed information, it appears three Israelis have been killed in a suicide bombing attack near the gas station of the community of Kedumim in Samaria.

A bomber appears to have blown himself up next to a vehicle. Officials on the scene report scattered body parts indicate a number of Israelis inside the vehicle may have been killed inside the vehicle. It is believed three people perished in the attack.

Fatah’s al-Aqsa Brigade released a statement claiming responsibility for the attack.

May Geula/Mashiach come swift as the wind so you can be reborn.

The annihilation of Amalek is coming.

476 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:09:10am
477 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:09:58am

From Publius Pundit


RUMORS OF CASTRO’S DEATH CIRCULATE IN LATIN AMERICAN PRESS
I just came through reports, in Spanish, about the likely death of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro. The news, strangely, has been given by several news sites, among which the far-leftist Indymedia in Argentina, which quoted some Latin American media as having reported the news. The Cuban regime has immediately dismissed the claims.

I assume that the regime won’t let know about the dictator’s death as soon as he dies.

While we shouldn’t yet celebrate, let me say that I prepared a bottle of champaigne, as Castro’s days of life are very, very numbered.

UPDATE: Given that this report is now believed to be wrong, here is a little Castro humor to cheer you up. -A.M. Mora y Leon

478 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:10:37am
479 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:10:46am

RC's "drift toward Islam"?

LOL

Right.

480 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:11:09am
481 BulgarWheat  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:11:48am

# 472 Bubble Girl

I've never understood why any man would want a submissive woman.

I saw my wife bring a car salesman almost to tears, talk my way out of a speeding ticket, and generally look after my cubs like a Mama bear.

Some of my pals say she has me on a short leash. I prefer to think she's looking out for her investment.

482 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:13:18am

godfrey

Thanks for the links.. I am over perusing them right now..

483 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:13:20am

#477 Kenneth

Damn! If I had a dollar for all the times Osama and Castro, Madonna and that Life cereal Mikey kid "died," I'd be a rather rich man. I figured the Castro riff was too good to be true. I could watch that video of him taking an aloof header some years back over and over and over again.

484 amir  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:14:01am

#469 Silhouette

It's the same attack but it has been updated at least in the Hebrew version of ynet and Israeli tv. Four charred and unidentifiable bodies were in the car which is a Tel Aviv car whose owner has not yet been identified, but has not been reported as a stolen car.
It is unclear if all four are Palestinian in a work accident or that an Israeli car with Israeli passengers was exploded in some way with or without a suicide bomber.

485 Matticus Finch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:14:04am

Kenneth-

I read that as well. Dang, I wish I knew Spanish. Lot's of Latin murmurs about it, though.

This would be beneficial for the US.

486 Mike C.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:14:36am

# 468 Addendum

Okay, obviously I need to modify that one immediately. History shows that any disadvantaged group can be coaxed into following damned near any radical idiotic ideology the appears to offer relief. I was thinking about educated, middle-class RC's like those I grew up with. My bad.

487 Avner.  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:14:57am

Update on Reported Terrorist Attack in Samaria

[Link: israelnn.com...]

(IsraelNN.com) Fatah’s al-Aqsa Brigade is reporting a 24-year-old Palestinian Authority (PA) resident of Hevron perpetrated the attack near the gas station of the community of Kedumim, in Samaria, at about 10:00pm local time.

Shortly following the explosion, authorities believed the blast was a terrorist bomb that detonated prematurely, killing the bomber inside. The vehicle was engulfed in flames.

It now appears that a suicide bomber dressed as a Jew, wearing a kippa (yarmulke), was given a ride by the unsuspecting occupants of the Israeli vehicle. He then blew himself up inside killing the passengers. The number of dead remains unclear but it appears to be two at this time.

Security authorities repeat it is still too soon to state with certainty if the Fatah statement is accurate.

488 DesertSage  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:16:27am

Eric Cartman's Conscience

You were funnier than shit last night!
You saved the world from Smug!

489 eLoser  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:17:02am
490 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:18:32am

NOOO...Catholics and Christians don't convert to Islam...nah...

[Link: www.knoxnews.com...]

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]

[Link: www.miami.com...]

491 lurking faith  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:19:42am

BulgarWheat
"I've never understood why any man would want a submissive woman."

No self-respect - or at least not enough. A man who's truly confident in himself has no need for a fawning slave to massage his ego.

492 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:19:52am

485 Matticus Finch

This would be beneficial for the US.

Castros death would be especially beneficial for the Cubans. Time to crack the champaign soon, I hope...

493 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:19:54am

#470 Rayra

The tragicomedy of it is that AmericanInfidel will go apeshit crazy on you in a matter of weeks, claiming you just told her you are a combat helicopter medic TODAY.


Buddy, there are days I feel I'm still doing just that.


So do I need to be worried about Ai. Is she a stalker? (-:

494 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:20:34am

#488 Desert Sage

I was beside myself! My wife won't watch the show with me. She actually came into the room to check on me I was laughing so long and hard throughout! I'm sure she thought I was sneaking some smoke - giggling like a little kid.

495 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:21:02am
496 Prester John  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:21:12am

#490 So I wonder how many of these ex-Catholics had to flee the country in fear of losing his/her life?

497 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:22:01am
498 BulgarWheat  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:23:15am

#491 lurking faith

I'm not even sure I'm all that confident or anything like that. Hell, more than anything I'm lazy and she can kick most peoples butts.

Guess I'm just a sensative new-age guy, eh?

499 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:23:52am

#482 Cartman's Conscience:

If I had a dollar for all the times Osama and Castro, Madonna and that Life cereal Mikey kid "died,"


[Note to self: Send FedEx package to Fidel with Coke and PopRocks. It's worth a try.]

500 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:23:56am

Re: #457 amir

Terror attack in Israel, at least four killed. Not sure if that includes suicide bomber or if the explosion was caused by remote control.

I wonder if this had come a day or so ago if the vote would have been different.

501 Dianna  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:24:36am

#473 rayra

I know the stats. I'm just annoyed as hell at the entire freaking issue. It brings out my sense of sheer contrariness.

And I'm typing (on a freaking typewriter) stupid government forms, because the City of San Francisco doesn't have something you can just download, fill up and send back. Did I mention that, for no reason I can quite fathom, they've made the lines just the wrong spacing?

502 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:24:41am

Ms. Fallot, who converted to Islam three years ago after asking herself spiritual questions to which she found no answers in her childhood Catholicism, says she finds the suspicion her new religion attracts “wounding.” “For me,” she adds, “Islam is a message of love, of tolerance and peace.” ... she liked the way “Islam demands a closeness to God. Islam is simpler, more rigorous, and it’s easier because it is explicit. I was looking for a framework; man needs rules and behavior to follow. Christianity did not give me the same reference points.”

503 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:24:55am

459-

Rise in world opinion: 0% But that isn't why we do it, is it? We do it because that's who we are.


Maybe we need to STOP doing it for awhile.

504 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:25:19am

#398 taxfreekiller

dumb ass

#400 rayra

dumbass

#402 Dustoff-507

dumb-ass

OK, where are our resident pedants? Which one of these is correct?

505 blue_like_jazz  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:25:50am

so did you guys see this about one of the idiot CPT hostages?

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

he was defending people who would have killed him had they known of his orientation.

um...duh!

(I apologize for the link to the network-that-shall-not-be-named)

506 loppyd  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:26:15am

The Boston Globe's Misleading Headline of the Day:

SJC: Nonresident gays cannot marry in Mass.

The court today upheld a 1913 law that forbids nonresident gays from marrying in this state. (AP, 11:46 a.m.)

This would lead one to believe that the SCJ upheld an existing law that forbids nonresident gays from marrying in MA. Not true!

The 1913 law forbids nonresidents who would not be able to legally marry in another state from marrying in MA.

You can only get the real story if you bother to click on the link and read into the second paragraph.

Leave it to the Globe...

But it is good news after all, IMHO.

507 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:26:18am

Tornadic supercell now approaching Pauls Valley dropped golfball sized hail near Halliburton campus in Duncan- no word how many HAL vehicles may have suffered sheet-metal dimpling or even starred-windshields.

508 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:26:25am

#499 OR

LOL - Pop rocks was on my mind when that little bastard Mikey popped in their. "Mikey will eat it. He eats ANYTHING!" Damn little fat crack addict! :)

509 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:26:28am

ECC

Interesting, I admit. All those interested are young and say they felt alienated before, using drugs, feeling threatened, etc.

When you're insecure, anything that pins you down is comforting -- even a boot on your neck.

510 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:26:49am

"popped in there" (sic)

511 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:27:04am

#496 Prester John

#490 So I wonder how many of these ex-Catholics had to flee the country in fear of losing his/her life?

Well, according to this story, all of them.

American convert could face death

The American government faced heavy international pressure Saturday to reconsider the charges against an American man for converting from Christianity to Islam. Accused of Apostasy, Michael Jackson appeared in the courtroom in full Islamic regalia holding a Holy Quran.

Most Americans agree that Jackson should receive the death penalty nonetheless, as his conversion is a clear and unforgivable embarrassment to the Christian faith. Christian protesters clashed with riot police today and set fire to several embassies of nations that had no association whatsoever to the case.

;-)

512 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:27:41am

#499 Occasional Reader - "[Note to self: Send FedEx package to Fidel with Coke and PopRocks. It's worth a try.]"
ROTFLMAO!
I'll be only to happy to chip in, WTH, you can never tell.
BTW - IIRC, Raoul Castro is the heir successor - got any info on him - and his hold on the Cuban people?

513 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:27:49am

OK, per Channel 9 in OKC tornado probably just misses Pauls Valley to the South.

514 got milk?  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:27:53am

368 Jimmy The Clam

Those stats just seem wrong. There is another site claiming that 49 percent of those in prison are BLACK. add these two up and it really makes it seem like there are almost no whites in prison.

In 2000 there were 1,305,253 inmates in prision. 95,043 of those ser non-US citizens (93% of prisons reporting) According to the U.S. Department of Justice.

515 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:27:56am
516 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:28:26am

#504 Wrench

398 taxfreekiller

dumb ass

#400 rayra

dumbass

#402 Dustoff-507

dumb-ass

OK, where are our resident pedants? Which one of these is correct?

Into FLAME throwing are you.

517 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:28:35am

#501 Dianna:

Did I mention that, for no reason I can quite fathom, they've made the lines just the wrong spacing?

You need to get yourself one of those typewriters they had at Texas Air National Guard offices back in the early 70s.

518 amir  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:28:42am

#500 Kosh's Shadow

I don't think so. Not significantly, anyway. Because it took place in Kdumin in Samaria.

519 BulgarWheat  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:28:53am

#509 Godfrey

when you're middle-aged, a wife, two kids, a 12 pack of Bud and a mortgage have the same affect.

but it's all good.

520 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:30:04am
THEN the Mexican government swoops in and kicks them out.

That's why the smart Americans are retiring to Panama instead.

• Import tax exemption on household goods and/or cars. Other taxes apply.
• No property taxes for 20 years.
• No income tax on incomes earned outside Panama.


Also, retirees in Panama have government mandated discounts on many goods and services. "Retiree" isn't age related either. You can be 30, as long as you are officially receiving a pension of some sort, either government or private. So ... incorporate, become an employee of your corporation, move your assets there, retire, have your corporation pay you a pension, you are in!

[Link: www.movetopanama.com...]

521 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:30:32am

#515 AI

So do I need to be worried about Ai. Is she a stalker? (-:

Well you will just have to wait and see...


YIKES!

522 DesertSage  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:30:41am

#494 Eric Cartman's Conscience

I just walked outside (I live in LA) and I saw a great big cloud. It didn't look like any cloud I've ever seen before...then I realized, it was George Cloony's acceptance speach from the Acadamy awards (Smug)!

I have to warn Bubble Girl, because it's coming her way!
The perfect storm!

523 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:31:22am

#503 Stuck-in-CA Stop what? Being who we are?

524 Prester John  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:31:50am

#504 Are you using the adjective "dumb" to modify the noun "ass" or are you using "dumb" as part of the noun?

Either is correct in my book depending on what you're trying to say. I don't believe the use of a dash is correct, but what do I know, I never had a decent English class in high school or college.

525 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:32:21am
526 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:32:35am

#493 Dustoff-507

So do I need to be worried about Ai. Is she a stalker? (-:

I wouldn't say she's a stalker, although there are some who stalk her. She's an acquired taste & can get rather "spirited" in defending her position. And she's got a copy-&-paste notepad that's bigger than most public libraries.

I think you 2 will get along just fine ;)

527 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:33:44am

Gaah! Quitting time! Missed the end of day flamers. {Infidella}

528 Dianna  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:34:30am

#517 OR

What I really need to do is finish the bloody form.

But my blood sugar crashed, so I'm staring at LGF instead. I can't go to lunch until the boss gets back.

529 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:34:35am

#520 crosspatch - Now that'd be a really NEAT idea, except of course that you'd be living in Panama.

530 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:34:46am

#522 DS

LOL - LOL

shut the hell up! I'm at my job! You'll get me damn fired! :) For some reason that fat little fascist, Cartman, kills me! To my shame I even have a painting I made of him in my office. Yes, definitely a problem! Surprised I even found a wife - but being damn handsome works even if I am an idiot! :)

531 brenda  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:35:52am

#444 prester john

Before we begin charging Mexico for the social services we provide to their citizens illegally residing here, we might sensibly begin by ending foreign aid to Mexico (estimated to be the #10 economy in the world).

Your Tax Money at Work -- US Foreign Aid to Mexico

532 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:35:58am

#527 Peacekeeper

ok, since you asked for it, you're a tofu-sucking pansy-peacenik!

So there!

533 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:36:00am
534 Mr Kufr  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:36:15am

#512 Realwest
Raoul went to college in New Jersey in the '50s. My best friends Dad had him over as a dinner quest at their house in Madison a couple times. He told me 20 years ago that he seemed like a good kid, polite, smart etc. He (my freinds Dad) thought if he ever took over as Presidente he would probably be a moderating factor.

535 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:36:37am

#525 Rayra
#526 Kenneth


Thanks guys. Now that I know about AI, I'll move on to another web site.

"CHARLES" LOL

536 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:36:58am
537 Peacekeeper  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:37:28am

I SAW THAT!


Kenneth = wanker

538 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:38:23am

rayra

veteran anti-veteran

Good!

wrenchwench

dumb ass = mute ass

e.g. "I bought it to guard my sheep, but by Allah, you have sold me a dumb ass!"

dumbass = stupid, ass-like person

e.g. *list of errors* followed by "Dumbass."

dumb-ass = adjectival form of stupid, ass-like person

e.g. "That was some dumb-ass fishin', Earl."

539 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:38:25am
#488 DesertSage 3/30/2006 01:16PM PST

Eric Cartman's Conscience

You were funnier than shit last night!
You saved the world from Smug!

Honey, you do know there is a difference between a cartoon and a guy posting under a nic of one of the characters?

540 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:38:36am

Update- cell weakening, Pauls Valley and vicinity spared.

541 lurking faith  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:38:55am

#502
"I was looking for a framework; man needs rules and behavior to follow. Christianity did not give me the same reference points."

What kind of quasi-Catholicism was she raised in? I mean, I'm a post-Vatican II child, but we had plenty of rules and guidelines, as well as training in the spiritual meaning behind them.

My guess is she either:
1) grew up in a LLL parish that emphasizes feelings instead of real ideas, or
2) went to public schools and didn't go to Sunday school.

542 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:39:00am

BTW - I read on an earlier thread (probably the Dead Thread; didn't read much after that due to an entirely unintended self inflicted medical overdose) that Hugo Chavez is thinking about invading Cancun, the Dutch Island, and the Dutch were all a twitter about their lack of defenses.
Anybody else see anything about this?

543 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:39:06am

#520 Crosspatch


Thanks about the retirement info.

Just have a few more years left then I'm free.

544 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:40:43am
545 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:40:56am

#463 Cerveza drinking victory monqui

Just imagine how different the world would look if Stalin had won the Spanish Civil War.

Stalin's Partido Communista de Espanya thugs were back in Spain in 1977, shortly after Franco's death, knocking on doors and threatening your casa would be their casa when they won the next elections. Scary stuff for a visiting American.

Now the neostalinist Zapatero--who wouldn't stand up for the US troops marching with Spanish troops in October 2003--is making nice with islamofascisti and paying for mosque maintenance & construction while bashing traditional Catholicism as Stalinists do.

Castro, Chavez and contemporary totalitarians are NOT better than Franco but infinitely worse.

546 Lazarus  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:41:00am

If you want to tell NYU just how disgusted you are with them for caving in to Muslim pressure at the free speech discussion last night, LGF contributor Amit Ghate has a good example of just how to do it.

547 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:41:36am

#523 realwest

I think he means stop putting our necks on the line to pull other people's butts out of the fire when they all hate us anyway. I understand that sentiment, but I say we can't help it. Going to the rescue is what we are, down to our bones.

548 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:42:15am
549 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:43:38am
545 alegrias 3/30/2006 01:40PM PST

#463 Cerveza drinking victory monqui

I love your style of writing..

lol

550 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:43:41am

#539 Bubble

Honey, let folks have a little immature, ridiculous, childish delight in banter. So much miserable crap in the world I certainly don't object to slinging a little south park recap with ol' Desert Sage

551 DesertSage  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:44:26am

#539 Bubble Girl

Honey, you do know there is a difference between a cartoon and a guy posting under a nic of one of the characters?

You mean...Cartman's not real?

...I don't have to warn you about the smug storm headed towards Colorado?

:

552 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:44:39am
553 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:44:51am

Just as a public service, AI's 'blog' dedicated to the proposition that an LGF stalker claimed to be a genuine badge carrying member of United States Secret Service. Said person had claimed (well, claim is wrong word, since people actually saw him on TV in USAF dress uniform as part of a USSS detail for Ronald Reagan's funeral, and others attended his retirement party) to be an EOD Tech in the Air Force, and to have been detailed to working with the USSS. AI demanded proof, in the form of an archived post, where said person said "I have never been a USSS agent", or else she insisted she would forever believe he was a liar.


Good fun for all involved.

554 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:45:07am

#548 rayra - "Get Cate the Elder. He'll be happy to sneer it in Latin."
LOL! LOL!

555 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:45:28am

Sorry, I should have PIMPed- said person was a stalkee, not a stalker.


Ooops.

556 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:46:01am

550 Eric Cartman

Of course you do not realize that I own Desert Sage after the UT-USC game and so I can tease him without mercy...

So no need to worry..

557 Dianna  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:46:03am

#544 rayra

I really hope it doesn't come to blood; but then, I always do, don't I?

The problem isn't racial, it's illegal immigration. When Ireland's economy was a basket case back in the 80's, you could clear an Irish bar on Friday afternoon by murmuring "INS". I don't hang out among the Irish anymore, so maybe it's not like that anymore, but I never thought people should just be able to come here illegally.

558 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:46:25am
559 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:47:20am

551 Desert Sage

You mean...Cartman's not real?

...I don't have to warn you about the smug storm headed towards Colorado?

No, no, no.. I need to know whenever a smug storm is coming...

:D

560 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:47:30am

#556 BG

Hell, if you're a Texas fan you have the well-won right to blast anybody for the next year! :)

561 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:48:18am
562 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:48:59am
Now that'd be a really NEAT idea, except of course that you'd be living in Panama.

Actually, Panama isn't a bad place to live. I have been talking to more people about it lately. In fact, when I was growing up I had friends (military family that lived up the street) that had lived in Panama for years and wanted to go back.

Low cost of living, low crime, well educated, modern cities, just about all the companies you are used to dealing with ... shop at Sears or Costco, for example.

The average monthly cost of living, domestic and professional services, food and many other products and services are considerable lower than in many countries including United States. A live-in maid can be hired for less than $300.00 a month. Medical assistance can be received as low as $20. Apartments in Panama City can be found starting at $450 a month. Very nice apartments with amazing view, can be found for less than $1,000 a month.

I read something posted a couple of weeks ago from someone looking for a place to retire, they said they had planned on Costa Rica until they checked out Panama, they said it's a no brainer now. I am serious, Americans are retiring in Panama in droves. If you are on a fixed income, things like no taxes and a very low cost of living mean a lot.

563 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:49:37am

#561 Rayra

LOL - again - not proud at all!

564 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:49:41am

#551 DesertSage


Honey, you do know there is a difference between a cartoon and a guy posting under a nic of one of the characters?

You mean...Cartman's not real?

Cartman is my Prophet, I love him more than life. This cartoon is an insult to Cartman! Death to the blasphemers!

565 BulgarWheat  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:50:16am

#506 Eric C

BG can enjoy it until next September. My beloved Ohio State Buckeye's get to go to their house and open a 50 gallon drum of whoop ass in Austin.

Ohio State owns the Fiesta Bowl, the MNC is at the Fiesta next year. All the stars are aligned.

Go Bucks!

566 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:50:36am

#543 Dustoff-507 - Yeah, but see my #529.

567 lurking faith  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:50:58am

#514 got milk?

On those prison stats... IIRC, one set of stats was specifically for state prisons.

The population makeup of federal prisons, or of all prisons (local, state, and federal) combined, could easily be quite different.

568 BulgarWheat  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:51:05am

#506, 560...Eric

Dyslexics of the world, untie!

569 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:51:22am

#564 Kenneth

There is only one god, Mel Gibson, and Cartman is his prophet.

570 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:51:23am

#557 Dianna:

The problem isn't racial, it's illegal immigration.

Tsk, tsk, you mean "undocumented workers", don't you?

And why have we forgotten to document them? Racism, that's why.


/you know

571 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:51:30am

560 Eric Cartman's Conscience

I love South Park..

For some reason I always remember these words from you, Eric Cartman..

S___ my H___ B___.

:D

572 DesertSage  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:52:27am
I own Desert Sage after the UT-USC game and so I can tease him without mercy...

This is, after all, an open thread...

573 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:52:29am
574 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:52:52am


#564 Kenneth 3/30/2006 01:49PM PST

#551 DesertSage


Honey, you do know there is a difference between a cartoon and a guy posting under a nic of one of the characters?
You mean...Cartman's not real?

Cartman is my Prophet, I love him more than life. This cartoon is an insult to Cartman! Death to the blasphemers!

HA! LOL LOL..

575 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:53:09am

519 bulgurwheat

*passing beer*

It's so true. Our spirits only soar when we watch a tightly-spinning football take its noble arc across the field and into the hands of a leaping receiver for a touchdown to win the game.

Then, and only then, do we feel weightless and elated, and truly free.

/

576 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:53:49am

#568 BW

You'd never guess that I graduated with honors from a North-Eastern University with a degree in ENGRISHH. Sad but true! :)

And about Texas - man - I've never seen anything like Young's game vs. USC

577 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:53:57am

Still some severe weather going on, but it looks like pace of severe storms is winding down.


Reduce weather alert level from terrified to apprehensive.

578 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:53:57am

#569 Eric C's C:

I was cheered to see last night that Stan has a Mel Gibson "Road Warrior" poster in his room. Coolest. Gibson. Movie. Ever.


"If it's awl the same to yew, oi'll droive that tankeh"

579 got milk?  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:55:38am

lurking faith
DOJ had it broken down. state, fedral, private. I just took the combined total. Trust me no level approached 30%

it is a PDF and it took a while to open but you can see for yourself.

ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/csfcf00.pdf

580 Bubble Girl  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:55:51am

I have gone over the edge of polite posting into crudity...

time for lunch...

581 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:56:10am

#562 crosspatch - I too lived in Panama when I was in the Army - for almost a year. Before Jimmah turned over the canal to them. I'm not disputing your friends' experiences as being invalid, but clearly much, much different than mine.
Guys who lived off base in Colon were always having their houses broken into and the literacy rate then
(1969) was extremely low, and the poverty of the average Panamanian was very, very bad.
And you don't want to know about the Sanitation Systems or the fact that the Atlantic Side gets 180 inches of rain in the 9 month rainy season.

582 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:56:24am

#578 OR

HAHAHA! LOL I caught that too! Fuc*ing hilarious! - Thank god it's five! Thanks all for the great talk - I gotta' get out of here before I lose my job. A great night to all and to all a good night!

583 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:57:30am
584 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:57:59am

#562 crosspatch

Ah, Panama--banana republica and birthplace of John McCain, "El Anti-Presidente Bush"!

You should have heard moonbats whine at the Smithsonian Institution when its scientists at the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institution were caught in the war with Pineapple Face.

Hmmm, I can't remember which side the moonbats were on...they were on Saddam's side during the Gulf War--"don't hurt the antiquities, preserve the Sumerian whatchamacallits--to hell with the Kurds and Shia." Such lovely leftists.

585 Dianna  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:58:33am

#570 Occasional Reader

I work in non-profit world - I stand by my phrasing! Now is the time to combat mealy-mouthedness!

It's illegal immigration! (Never mind that most of my ancestors probably didn't have visas, either.) I will never call anyone an "undocumented worker." For one thing, it's rotten English.

And I reserve the right to send any proposal that uses the word "disenfranchised" to mean "poor" back for correction!

586 DesertSage  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:59:03am

Eric Cartman's Conscience

What was it that Cartman said to Kyle at the end of the show last night?
Something about him being a Jew bastard...

I'm Jewish...I was laughing my ass off.
I wasn't offended in the least.

/I mean, it's not like it was a Mohammed cartoon or something

587 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 11:59:52am

#573 taxfreekiller - You still have that get out of jail free card?! Where'd you hide it...er, nevermind, don't really want to know.

588 got milk?  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:00:41pm

567 lurking faith

forgot to mention, "local" prisons were not included because they are considered jails
/I do not mean to be a smart a$$.

Stats like that may be for a specific county jail. Or one specific state prision. I just hate it when people (not lizard that posted the info- but the source) misrepresent stats to make a point.

589 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:01:19pm

#586 DS

Just Cartman being Cartman my good man. Take care and have a great night - the Flinstone's bird bwaaakkkss for me and I am out! Yabba Dabba DOOO!

590 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:01:22pm
591 taterhead  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:01:54pm

#427 PDM

I think that is a horrible way to teach about the holocaust/racism/prejudice. I saw the film about how a kindergarten teacher in the 70s did that crap with eye color. (Oprah had her on several years ago and she tried that shit with the audience.) With little kids? That is traumatic. Most little kids are innocent and have good hearts. You only need to teach the little ones how to be kind and polite and that being 'mean' won't be tolerated as they wouldn't like it themselves. Then when they get older, show the horrors of the holocaust. Don't make them a participant in a 'faux' one. I saw the films in high school of the butchery and had to cover my eyes. I won't go into holocaust museum because you can taste the despair. Complete bullshit to do that to little kids. I would be up at that school too bitching a storm. HARUMPH!

592 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:03:36pm

#558 AI
#526 Kenneth

They are all word documents, not notepad texts...I have them all arranged by category, etc...etc...etc...


Ok now this is making me sweat!

593 Master Shake  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:05:54pm

Now, here's a lovely bunch. Let's give them amnesty.

594 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:06:59pm
595 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:07:38pm

Paradise! Two thousand miles from here. Fresh water. Plenty of sunshine. Nothing to do but breed!

596 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:08:45pm

tfk

What's the fine for 147 in Texas? A lien on your house?

597 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:08:50pm

#428 alegrias

No problem.

"Hope these folks are happy with their djhimmi Socialist Zapatero in charge of poor Spain,.."

He's done. Even the those who voted for him want him out from the discussions I last had when I was down there. Don't know if he will finish his term, but he won't survive the next election in any case.

598 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:08:59pm

#592 Dustoff-507 - GET A GRIP, MAN! You were a medic in Vietnam, doing huey liftoffs; you survived that, you can survive anyone or anything out here. Just don't lose your sense of humor and remember, you can not reach through the monitor, with or without a hammer, to "touch" someone you, uh, love! And please don't ask me how I know that that's true.

;>p

599 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:09:21pm

#573 Taxfree

if you have a moment check out the "Air Force Ponies" who flew just fine if you ask me


I did, but came across OV-10's Is this what you speak of? You were a FAC?

600 Master Shake  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:09:43pm

539 Bubble Girl:

Honey, you do know there is a difference between a cartoon and a guy posting under a nic of one of the characters?

Are you trying to tell me that I am not, in fact, a giant, anthropomorphic milkshake?

I think I'm going to cry...

601 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:10:12pm
602 Silhouette  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:10:59pm

#593 Master Shake

The irony is that if they had kept these marches peaceful and played up the "I love America and only want to work hard and build a life for my family" angle and hid all this anti-American conquest fantasies, they'd almost be guaranteed their green cards and amnesty.

603 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:12:40pm

#565 BW

"Ohio State owns the Fiesta Bowl, the MNC is at the Fiesta next year. All the stars are aligned."

Karl Rove has arranged everything. The fix is in. [wink, wink, nudge, nudge]

604 Dianna  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:14:12pm

#602 Silhouette

Right!

Oh, well. There's absolutely no political miscalculation the left won't make.

605 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:14:50pm

#598 Realwest

GET A GRIP, MAN! You were a medic in Vietnam, doing huey liftoffs; you survived that, you can survive anyone or anything out here. Just don't lose your sense of humor


LOL... (-:

Where's my Huey!

606 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:16:20pm

#601 American Infidel
#592 Dustoff-507

Quitting time for me. Have fun you two.

Psst...AI, be gentle with our new friend ;)

607 alegrias  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:17:17pm

#597 Buckeye

Re: Zappyterror "...Even the those who voted for him want him out ..."

Yes but will Spaniards now embrace any politician and party which is pro-US, pro-Bush, pro-fighting islamofascists is my whiny question!

I want my reconquistadores, torreros, matadors, picadors, kitschy Carmens, macho and machas back kicking terrorist heiny with us. Viva Espanya democratica and poderosa.

608 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:19:16pm

#606 Kenneth

Have a great one... I'm almost out of here too

609 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:19:28pm
610 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:19:42pm
611 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:20:34pm
612 Dustoff-507  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:24:29pm

#611 Taxfree


LOL your killing me!
Foward Air Controller

Yes I did kick up a bunch of dust, but NEVER missed my LZ. (-:

613 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:26:24pm

tfk

Near Wichita Falls, that's like miles and miles of clean empty road, right?

614 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:32:19pm
615 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:32:32pm
616 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:33:19pm
617 taterhead  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:33:28pm

#490 Eric CC
From one of your links

Critics may protest that wearing the veil marks a woman as property, but some Latina converts say they welcome the fact that they are no longer whistled at walking down a street

Any woman can get the respect if she doesn't dress with her 'goods' hanging out and carries herself with dignity. Though, why would anyone whistle at a 'bag'.

618 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:34:13pm

Volokh Conspiracy has a long post about the Iranian girl Nazanin who has been sentenced to death for killing a man trying to rape her. If she had been raped, she would have been sentenced to death for being raped.

619 lurking faith  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:35:56pm

got milk?
Thanks for the link; I should have thought to check DOJ's figures myself. (Just lazy, i guess.)

Here's some interesting info from that document (page 8):

"Between 1995 and 2000 the number of inmates who were not U.S. citizens rose by approximately two-thirds in both Federal and State facilities. In 2000 non-U.S. citizens accounted for 25% of the Federal, 5% of the State, and 12% of the private correctional population." [Note: "private" here refers to privately operated prisons housing either federal or state convicts.]

Also according to the DOJ, for comparison, the overall population increase in this time period was 28% (broken down as 37% in federal prisons, 19% in state prisons, and 459% in privately run prisons).

28% overall increase; 67% increase in non-citizens. I don't like what that trend implies. (And these numbers are all before 9-11, so don't anybody say "Gitmo".)

DOJ doesn't specify and probably did not ask how many of these non-citizens are here illegally.

I couldn't find more recent numbers on the non-citizen population; the yearly numbers count by race but not citizenship. If anybody has a genuine source on this, I'd be curious to know whether the trend of a quick rise in non-citizen inmates has continued.

620 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:38:18pm
621 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:39:27pm

#618 godfrey:

the Iranian girl Nazanin who has been sentenced to death for killing a man trying to rape her. If she had been raped, she would have been sentenced to death for being raped.

I know! Let's give them nuclear weapons!

622 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:41:01pm
623 crosspatch  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:46:09pm
I too lived in Panama when I was in the Army - for almost a year. Before Jimmah turned over the canal to them. I'm not disputing your friends' experiences as being invalid, but clearly much, much different than mine.

Well, I was talking to kids my own age (probably grade school) in the winter. Maybe their parents had other ideas.

But nevertheless, I am hearing some pretty nice things recently from people who have been there or who have been living there.

A lot can change in almost 40 years (damn, it's been almost 40 years since 69?) I mean, the crime rate in the US has dropped 50% in only the last 10 years. One thing that is different is the economy in Panama has improved quite a bit since then.

In 1969 the town where I live was a lot different than it is now too.

624 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:48:30pm
625 lurking faith  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:48:52pm

#573 tfk

You know, I just reread that "card" of yours, and it kinda sounds like it's describing Jack Bauer.

So I really hope you're not having a bad day...

626 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:48:58pm
627 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:52:27pm
628 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:53:27pm
629 realwest  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:55:46pm

#623 crosspatch - Indeed a lot can change in 37 years (but who's counting?!) but they still get 180 inches of rain during the 9 month rainy season on the Atlantic side. And it's still Hot Hot Hot 12 months of the year ( and no, not that Arizona kinda dry heat, either). I could take it at in my early 20's, now - no way). But whatever floats your boat, go for it!

630 ChicagoBlue  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:57:19pm
AI
#601
now we are in the comm buss

big hands

jewsee bits

we need to do more than talk gril

LOL...I don't think you are ready for me...LOL

Whoa, intriguing...

Spring must be in the air!

631 lurking faith  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:58:54pm

#591 taterhead

Now, I am NOT defending the Holocaust experience experiment those teachers inflicted on their students... But just to clarify things, they weren't little kids. They were 8th graders.

The reporter probably deliberately chose to quote a kid who used the word "Daddy," knowing most people would retain an impression of helpless little kids, much younger than the actual kids. Or maybe some grownup has misquoted the poor kid.

I mean, honestly, I have never yet known a 13-year-old who would be caught dead calling his or her parents Mommy and Daddy.

632 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 12:59:21pm
633 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 1:02:06pm
634 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 1:04:06pm
635 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 1:06:16pm
636 ChicagoBlue  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 1:07:07pm

taxfree ~

Thought out like a true...romantic!

637 got milk?  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 1:09:37pm

lurking faith non-citizens are here illegally I am assuming most but that does mean they came from mexico. Most of them maybe?

I know the trends are going up. I did look for something more current but could not find it. I want an offical source like the DOJ. I did not do a state by state search. But I am sure they have stats too. I am sure that it will be higher in Texas then lets say Iowa.

638 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 1:10:50pm

#607

"Yes but will Spaniards now embrace any politician and party which is pro-US, pro-Bush, pro-fighting islamofascists is my whiny question!"

Alas no. I still haven't figured out the depth of the anti-US sentiments, BDS aside, but there is enough internal divisions in Spain that I couldn't phanthom who would be the next PM.

639 godfrey  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 1:12:10pm

624

yeah but slip at 147 and all you'll see is more gorey.

640 got milk?  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 1:14:04pm

lurking,

This does interest me Rate of increase broken down as 37% in federal prisons. You don't get sent to a fedral prison for knocking off a mini-mart, stealing cars... I wonder what the crimes were.

641 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 1:21:27pm
642 lurking faith  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 1:35:16pm

got milk,
Yeah, I was wondering about the types of offenses, too. Of course, some of the federal convictions could be on immigration violations, but I somehow doubt that really accounts for the whole increase, or even the majority.

I have to go now, but if you feel like it, you might be able to find numbers by type of conviction in the yearly figures (except those don't include any breakdown by citizenship, which is what we really want). I admit I didn't skim far enough in that large document you suggested to be sure they didn't include that kind of info (a lack of time is such a handicap to thorough research, dang it).

644 religion of bacon  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 1:57:07pm
645 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 2:04:22pm

582- taxfreekiller

What we should do is hire all illegal aliens to build the concrete wall across our borders...and while we are at it, mafia style, we should bury our entire Congress in the concrete. Then instead of "Where is Jimmy Hoffa", we can all ask where is Uncle Teddy.

646 Van Impe  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 2:12:00pm

Now the muslims are offended by Mother Theresa:

SHKODER, Albania (Reuters) - Muslims in Albania's northern city of Shkoder are opposing plans to erect a statue to Mother Teresa, the ethnic Albanian Catholic nun in line for elevation to sainthood by the Vatican.

Muslim groups in Shkoder rejected the local council plan for a Teresa statue, saying it "would offend the feelings of Muslims."

"We do not want this statue to be erected in a public place because we see her as a religious figure," said Bashkim Bajraktari, Shkoder's mufti or Muslim religious leader.

Shkoder's Muslims recently protested against crosses being erected on prominent hilltops.

So who would the local muslims rather honor:

But men in one Shkoder bar said they would prefer a monument to an Albanian fighter who blew himself up in order to avoid being captured by enemy Serbs, or even to two Ottoman-era pashas remembered fondly in Shkoder.

From Reuters, oddly enough!

647 Van Impe  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 2:22:39pm

Did my Mother Theresa post kill the open thread?

648 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 2:34:46pm

I love Mother Theresa! I hate Muslims.

649 brenda  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 2:38:33pm

Webpage to follow the Senate's various open-borders bills...

[Link: www.numbersusa.com...]

You can also sign up at NumbersUSA to fax Congress for free about immigration issues.

650 PDM  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 2:50:26pm

#591 taterhead,

Most little kids are innocent and have good hearts. You only need to teach the little ones how to be kind and polite and that being 'mean' won't be tolerated as they wouldn't like it themselves. Then when they get older, show the horrors of the holocaust. Don't make them a participant in a 'faux' one.

As lurking faith pointed out in post 631, the kids were in the 8th grade. That puts them in the 13-14 year-old age range. I think that's an appropriate age for that kind of simulation exercise. It may have been better if the school took the precaution of notifying the parents first so that some could opt out. But I would have no problem letting my 13 or 14 year-old participate (though my kid would say "this is not a Jewish star").
Had the children been a couple of years younger, elementary school age (10, 11, maybe 12), I would agree with your point. However, even my 5 year-old knows that there are people who hate Jews and "want to make them go to HaShamayim" (kill them). I don't believe in keeping kids sheltered from the truth as long as there is some balance and consideration of their age and what they are able to comprehend.

I saw the films in high school of the butchery and had to cover my eyes.

I saw them too and I think it's important that all highschool age children see them. When I feel the time is right, I will make sure that my children see them as well. They should know what Nazis did to nearly every member of their great grandmother's family (my grandmother OBM).
I didn't cover my eyes while watching those films, and when I hear about Holocaust denial today, those images of piles of dead bodies are as clear in my mind as the day I saw them.

651 cbinflux  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 2:54:29pm

#648 van Impe
Look up the long thread to #202 and #213 for Muslims dissing Mother Theresa

652 NY Nana  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 4:10:40pm

#643 Carl in Jerusalem

And in the middle of all that, Israel has this, 7 months later, while Olmert*spit* gleefully drools as he plans expelling more Jews out of Israel, even after today's homicide bombing, as mentioned on another thread.

Amidst unemployment, poverty and uncertainty, the displaced residents of Gush Katif are somehow trying to rebuild their lives.


Dana Zelinger's children used to think their fantasy vacation was staying in a hotel. Not anymore. Now they dream of a living room, a kitchen, private family meal time, a patch of floor to bounce a ball. The Zelingers are one of hundreds of families still stranded in hotels, youth hostels, vacation villages and tent cities seven months after the evacuation of their Gush Katif communities last summer.

What was to be a 10-day stay has turned into an odyssey of uncertainty whose provisional end will only be seen in another few months when the Zelingers and other evacuees from the community of Neve Dekalim will be settled in temporary quarters at Kibbutz Ein Tzurim. Five years down the line, the remnants of their community will be reunited in permanent housing near Kibbutz Amatzia in the sparsely populated Lachish region.

Yet Dana Zelinger is hopeful, and grateful. At least her family has a proper roof over their heads; evacuees from Atzmona are living in the tent city they pitched on the outskirts of Netivot called Ir HaEmunah (City of Faith). Many of those expelled from Elei Sinai are living in Ohalei Sinai, a tent park set up on a lot outside Kibbutz Yad Mordechai close to the northern Gaza border.

Dana, 42 and mother of seven, can be spotted daily in the lobby of the Jerusalem Gold Hotel adjacent to the Jerusalem Central Bus Station, clipboard in hand and phone to her ear. She is the activities coordinator for the 31 families still stranded in what she calls this "luxury cage," making sure that the nearly 100 children in the hotel have their entire afternoon schedule accounted for.

"The hotel has been quite considerate, and the owner has been wonderful to us," says Dana. "But a hotel is a hotel, and it's not made for kids to run around in. There are other guests here as well. So we have to make sure our children are occupied constantly, with lessons, workshops, and outings. Every minute has to be organized. In a normal home, your child comes home after school, flops down on the couch, takes a snack from the kitchen, and 'just is'. Here, there is no 'just'. He can't hang out in the lobby, and he can't shoot hoops in the bus station."

Dana, whose youngest is five years old, says that the most immediate difficulty is the supervision. "We all sleep in separate hotel rooms, connected by a public hallway. I have no idea what time my older kids go to sleep, if they are even in their room, or perhaps wandering around downtown Jerusalem at midnight. In your home, you don't always see everyone, but you know where everyone is and which friends come and go."

RAMPANT UNEMPLOYMENT

Dwelling on the destruction of her home is so mind-boggling, says Dana, that she prefers to use her energy to organize the present and hold her family together. Her husband, an electrician, is employed in the south, close to their former town, and now sleeps there half the week. It's not easy caring for her children on her own in such a non-homey setting, but she's grateful that at least he is employed. Of the 2,200 people who lost their jobs on account of the evacuation, less than 300 have found work.

see rest of article

653 Lizard Mom  Thu, Mar 30, 2006 5:22:01pm

Evening all,

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