VDH was on Fox with this also

Fuck France

Im gonna sit back this summer with my popcorn and beer and watch the [bigoted word]s burn their country to the ground.

Appease this Stinkies.

AFP...meh

liars lie

Israel can dam_ed to what she wants to do.

To hell with everyone else, including the MSM.

Another bit of hilarious hypocrisy to the article:

AFP essentially is saying, "Oh, the Israelis claim the fence is for security. But look -- there are still suicide bombings! Therefore, the fence doesn't work, and therefore it must be a land-grab -- so it must be dismantled."

The solution to a measure that is only 95% effective is to remove it, and replace it with a measure that is 0% effective.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

AFP knows it's lying. They're just on the other side.

Agreed that Israel can and should do whatever they want and frankly, France is in no position to be lecturing anyone about anything.

AFP will offically be shilling for the Ummah in another 15 years from now.

I can't believe (welll, I can, but you know what I mean) that the MainStream Media will use a term like "apartheid" so cavalierly. Apartheid was a racist horror. The wall around Israel is a political division made physical, but not a racial one. There are Israeli Jews who are physically more closely related to the majority of Arabs, and vice versa. THis is because the diference is political and religious, not racial.
In South Africa, there were exactly zero white people who were black, and exactly zero black people who were white. Now THAT is a racial division.
That the MSM is allowed to get away with calling the fence "apartheid" is amazing.

Agreed that Israel can and should do whatever they want and frankly, France is in no position to be lecturing anyone about anything.

I mean look at what appeasing muslims has gotten the french.

Their 10-15 years away from utter and complete destruction at the hands of "youths"

Yup they will show Israel when they offically hand over the keys to the castle and place their heads in the Guilotine.

The number of attempted terrorist attacks has gone up recently. Israel is experiencing a new wave of attempted terrorist attacks, according to the IDF.

Any country has the right to defend itself, and that includes both active defense and passive defense. Active defense includes going into the enemy's territory and zapping the terrorists and the terrorist leaders.
Passive defense includes building an anti-terrorist barrier to reduce the likelihood that islamikazi terrorists can penetrate and carry out their suicide bombings.

If AFP doesn't like it, well they don't have responsibility for assuring the safety of Israel's population.

re #10, here is a link concerning the IDF statement about the increase in terrorist attempts
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

pegcity: 10-15 yrs? Are you sure you're not being optimistic?

Apartheid was nothing compared to the ravages of dhimmitude for the last 1,300+ years. The abuse of history is more of a problem than drugs. Hitler and apartheid have become universal touchstones, and are almost always misapplied.

Unlike apartheid, there's no international effort, condemnation, or movement to end Islamic imperialism and the crushing dhimmitude which follows.

Afghanistan openly threatens to kill someone for being a Christian - the accepted rule throughout Islam - yet we're already back to debating a freaking fence. A fence is just an object. It can be taken down as easily as it was put up.

Moving Islam away from a culture of barbarism and suicide murder is going to require the world to roll up its sleeves.

I know it was gonna be a bullshit story as soon as I got to the end of line one...

/anything involving fwance must be total B.S.

The security barrier is simply Israel imposing a "victor's peace". The side that lost the war doesn't have to like it, and they generally don't. But thats the way the world has always worked.

The UN-driven "peace efforts" over the last several decades have only hindered real peace. They only served to make the losers think they still had a strong negotiating position.

WHile there is no doubt that the stringers have a huge role in these arab press releases, a Frenchman would not have to stretch to write the same thing.

Charles - while I admire your posting this thread, it surely can come as no surprise to you or to any lizadroids that AFP is the News Source of the Palistinians (and Arabs) and that it has been for a looong time.
As zombie said in #5 "The solution to a measure that is only 95% effective is to remove it, and replace it with a measure that is 0% effective.

Yeah, that's the ticket."

And I think it appropriate to not refer to the people at AFP maroons; they know very well what their doing; propagandizing for the palis.
Period.
I wish I knew French, only so as to say Agence France Propaganda Presse, using the French word for progaganda.

Also, from the 'create your own history' files:

The Beatles' smoking habit snubbed out

Record bosses are erasing any evidence of The Beatles penchant for smoking from the cover of an album re-release. EMI are shipping a new version of LP 'Capitol Albums Volume 2' on April 3, but there will be a distinctive difference on the cover.

While John, Paul and Ringo were seen puffing away on the evil weed on the original 1964 version, they've magically kicked the habit on the re-release. And that's not the only thing to have vanished into thin air, two of Ringo's fingers, that were holding a cigarette, have also gone on the missing list.

[Link: www.lse.co.uk...]

pegcity: 10-15 yrs? Are you sure you're not being optimistic?

With the ways things are looking these days, probably.

This summer is gonna be a real barn burner.

And by barn i mean Renaults and burner i mean muslims burning everything in their path.

The anti-terrorist barrier makes it more difficult for the terrorists to penetrate and get to where they can commit their terrorist acts.

There are openings in the anti-terrorist barrier to permit people to get through, in order to reduce the inconvenience of the barrier. Of course, there has to be checking at the openings or else the terrorists would simply go through the openings and commit their terrorism very easily.

If the political boundaries that would eventually be agreed upon were known at this time, then the obvious path of the anti-terrorist boundary would be along those political boundaries. But they are not known. And there may not be any agreed upon boundaries for the next few hundred years. In the meantime, Israel needs to have passive defense against the terrorism. That's why the anti-terrorist barrier is being built.

Ah yes, advice coming from a country whos strategy for handling the muslims is ignore the problem, then give them more in hopes they will quit tearing things up. Sorry France, you're no Paine Webber. No one's listening.

But thanks for laying out the roadmap to self destruction so clearly, Francie.

13 Beagle. And for that matter, Apartheid was nothing compared with what the benevolent muslims have done in the Sudan for the last 15 years either.

I especially love where he says that the idea for the wall was "dreamt" up in 2001

The completion of the anti-terrorist barrier will save lives. But it will not have any effect whatsoever on the territorial demands of the Hamas regime, which is to conquer Israel entirely. Hamas is not going to recognize that Israel is entitled to even one square inch of territory -- their stated goal is to wipe Israel off the map. That's what they swear to do in their charter, which they call a "covenant". The anti-terrorist barrier will have zero effect on the Israeli territory that Hamas will recognize, since in any event they will not recognize any territory for Israel. The only thing that Hamas will adjust is their schedule for conquering Israel -- when they need time for building up an army of terrorists, they will ask Israel for more time. But their ultimate goal will not change -- it's an inherent part of their ideology. Since Israel is in a zero-sum game with Hamas -- Hamas seeks Israel's destruction -- it would be a mistake for Israel to cooperate in any manner with Hamas, because anything that helps Hamas works against Israel.

Israel has always maintained that the barrier, much of it snaking east of the 1967 Green Line that is supposed to separate Jewish and Arab states, is for security and not a land grab, despite Palestinian fears of its ultimate goal.

1) Who says the 1967 "Green Line Side is supposed to separate Jewish and Mental Midget states.

2) Do these people have any idea of sentence structure? What are the Mental Midgets fears of its goal? They can't easily blow up hard working, decent human beings?

I said this on another thread, but it should be the "Seagull Media". They see a little morsel being dangled somewhere. After one Seagull finds a morsel, there are instantly hundreds of Seagulls, flying about, sqawking like crazy and shitting all over everything. As soon as that morsel is gone, they go cruising the beach for another.

I wish I could put an Alka-seltzer in the morsel and watch them explode (never actually tried that one).

Since the alternative to the wall is Israel knocking heads together, I'd say the wall is a darn good idea.

Saying the wall is an "Apartheid wall" is utterly disingenous.

Israel doesn't have a right to secure its borders? How is a passive wall not a legitimate (and in fact superior) way to do that?

If you grant that Israel does, in fact, have a right to defend its borders, then you cannot claim the wall is "racist" or "apartheid".

It may be reasonable to debate WHERE the wall goes, but that's a whole other matter, and quite frankly, with Hamas being now being the official "voice" of Palestine, there's nobody to talk to about it.

Not incidentally, part of the US/Mexico border is lined by a fence (ie 'wall'), so .I guess the USA is an apartheid state too!

OH! OH! I REMEMBER!

a truce...

Thats when the Israelis stop shooting back!

I'm Jewish I I would gladly protest at Israel's proposed borders. It's borders should include Gaza, Judea and Samaria.

And what is more, I abhore the occupation. I want to know why arab genocide killers in their millions are occupying Jewish land that is not theirs and hopefully never will be.

And what is more I abhore the apartheid in Israel whereby arab bacteria have never been able to accept Jews in their community, whilst the opposite has not been true.

Oh yes! There should be more than 300 of us protesting about arab occupation and muslim apartheid. But in today's world of inverted logic, total amorality and islamonazi appeasement, if we read teh msm it is the Jews who are at fault.

Transfer NOW!

The fact that Hamas is openly dedicated to wiping Israel off the map, and has carried out scores of suicide bombings against Israelis, and rejects all previous agreements made between Israel and the Pali Authority, has not stopped countries from opening talks with Hamas -- and it is expected that recognition will follow. There are cracks opening up in the attempted front against Hamas.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

from the link in #28

"Cracks emerge in front against Hamas
By JPOST.COM STAFF

France has established secret contacts with Hamas representatives on behalf of the European Union, showing cracks in the policy of rejecting the new Palestinian government, a special report submitted to officials in Jerusalem revealed on Monday.

Israel also suspected that other countries including India, Japan and China would soon publicly recognize the Hamas-led government, Army Radio reported.

According to the report, despite the refusal of the US and Israel to negotiate with the Palestinians, the European Union, Russia and India were already holding secret or open talks with Hamas officials.

Reportedly, the EU talks have been sponsored by France, while India has already held official meetings with senior Hamas officials and Russia held consultations with the organization even prior to the Palestinian parliamentary elections, publicizing the talks after Hamas' landslide victory.

Japan and China also expressed willingness to publicly recognize the Hamas government. Israel was concerned that these countries and many others would follow Russia's lead and hold official meetings with the movement. "

#27 transferthem

How dare you to suggest to transfer arabs?
This is an ethnic cleansing and crime against humanity.
Only transfer Jews from Judea, Samaria, Gaza, Golans, Jerusalem, Galilee, Negev, and Tel Aviv can bring peace and Hero status to implementers of the transfer. Pogroms bring peace even faster.

Finally Israel Government and Hamas are on the same path. Roadmap to Peace/Map without Israel.

Why blame France, when Olmert shows the way?

Israel has always maintained that the barrier, much of it snaking east of the 1967 Green Line

Now is that unusually insidious use of language or am I just paranoid?

Not news...just opinion.