The Norwegian-Moroccan was on trip with city social services when he raped another 13 year old girl in the toilet at a major Oslo Cinema. Also this girl was raped in a very humiliating manner, and is suffering from serious problems in the aftermath.

Rape is always in a humiliating manner.

I've got 2 little girls. Anyone who did this to either one would be begging for death by the end.

F**king animals. Do the Europeans not even care anymore?

I'm surprised this was printed. The media in Scandanavia have been doing their level best to pretend non of this is happening.

Just ask Fjordman.

Where is my effing pizza.

What has happened to "the Viking Spirit"? If men are not willing to protect/avenge their women, they deserve the destruction that will soon overtake them.

This is absolutely disgusting.

This "Youth" deserves at least to be gelded with a rusty scrimmatar.

Huh, usually I expect Fjordman to break these, not Freerepublic.

I notice that the media in Europe continues to leave out important adjectives - like 'Muslim' - in the description of their 'youth'.

I also find telling that the girl in question would rather take extralegal means (in this case, protection money) rather than rely on the obviously broken justice system. That's a telling sign. One and a half years for a brutal rape? Eventually something has got to give.

whoa. I just caught something. The girl was angry with her mom for giving their names to the cops.

Which can only mean she knew them or knew of them.

OT: Domestic Terrorism

After Mohammed Taheri-azar drove his rented SUV through a crowd of UNC
students with the intent of killing as many of them as possible, I
raised the question of his ties to local area Mosques in the now defunct The Fifth Column Report.

Now Steven Emerson of the Investigative Project on Terrorism has taken
the lead and publishes this undercover report:

But the center’s youth director, Hisham Sarsour, has a different message. A former president of the Muslim Student Association (MSA) who was born in Jerusalem and educated at Columbia University, University of Wisconsin and the University of Southern California, Sarsour has a long record of making religiously divisive and anti-American statements.

According to a recording made available by the Investigative Project on Terrorism, Sarsour stated at the 7th-annual MSA West Conference in January 2005: “The failure in Iraq that we see is good for the world and good for the American people and good for the Muslims.” In fact, Sarsour expressed this theme twice, another version being, “From my perspective, the death of this government in Iraq is good for Muslim ummah, is good for the American people, is good for the world” (Ummah is a global family or body of Muslims.)

At the same conference, Sarsour argued that American efforts to support freedom in Iraq are “dumb.” Sarsour also stated that when the U.S. engages in surveillance and when Muslims are taken into custody, “[a] Christian public is very accepting of this,” so much so that persecution of Muslims is the “new religion of America.”

Far more charitable is Sarsour's view of terrorism -- particularly when it is directed against Israel and the United States. For example, Sarsour disapproves of the term “terrorist” for Palestinian suicide bombers. Instead, as Sarsour sees it, those Palestinians who fight against Israel are fighting “terrorists." As for the terrorists in Iraq, Sarsour seems to regard them as brave patriots guilty of nothing more than defending their homeland. He asks rhetorically, “What is a terrorist? How can we fight terrorism? If Iraq is defending its own country, its own people, its own being, its own heart, is this a terrorist?”

Small girls are raped and robbed. Schoolchildren’s are threatened with death, robbed and assaulted.

What would Jesus do?

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
[Matthew 18:6- 7 ]

Sadly, none of this surprises me. Unless the Europeans show some spine and cojones they are doomed.

One more representation of the RELIGION OF PEACE:

[Link: in.news.yahoo.com...]

Muslim father enlisted wives' help in raping daughters

Singapore, April 14 (DPA) A Muslim father who enlisted the help of his multiple wives to rape five teenage daughters pleaded guilty in one of the most heinous cases of sexual abuse in Singapore, news reports said Friday.

The 45-year-old man, whose identity was withheld to protect his victims, subverted parts of the Koran to justify incest, Deputy Public Prosecutor Eugene Lee told the High Court.

While conducting religious lessons, he convinced his wives that he had ownership over his children, which included having sex with them, The Straits Times said.

Forty-three charges were levelled against the father, who preyed on his daughters when they were between 12 and 15 years old, from December 2003 to June 2005. The charges included rape, attempted rape and aggravated rape.

Two of the girls became pregnant and had abortions.

Justice Tay Yong Kwang on Thursday set Tuesday for sentencing.

The girls, now in the care of the ministry of community development, could not recollect the exact number of instances of abuse.

The incidents 'were so numerous that they were hard-pressed to keep count, much less remember the exact specifics of each incident', Lee was quoted as saying.

The man would send one of his wives to tell a daughter to go to their father's bedroom, Lee said. He had sex with them even though the girls cried out in pain.

The eldest of the abused daughters reported her father to the police on June 24, 2005. He was arrested the next day.

The bespectacled defendant with greying hair pleaded guilty to nine of the charges. Tay said he will take the remaining counts into consideration in sentencing.

The prosecution asked the judge for a substantial prison sentence. The penalty for rape is a maximum of 20 years in jail and caning. The penalty for aggravated rape is at least eight years in jail and 12 strokes of the cane.

'Instead of providing paternal love and support to the victims, he chose to systematically abuse them to satisfy his sexual desires,' Lee said.

The prosecution declined to say whether charges would be brought against the wives who helped him.

While such 'contractual marriages' are permitted in some Islamic countries, they are invalid in Singapore.

The media in Scandanavia have been doing their level best to pretend non of this is happening.

They still do.

I was just about to translate this myself. I will still make a post about it, called "A New Oslo Peace Process?" The next "peace process" will be about making peace in, well, Oslo.

At the same time as this was printed, our former PM warned against the "ghost of Islamophobia" haunting Europe.

P.S. The islamo turd that committed this disgusting act of filth should be made to lay prostrate whilst being effed by a pig. I don't have a daughter anymore (she died) but I will tell you this: If anyone, at any time, anywhere,. for any reason assaulted my daughter I would rip his balls off his nether regions, and shove them down his nose. Not his mouth, his nose. This way, I could open up his sinus cavity from the outside; and slowly insert (using a sharp object) foreign matter into his brain. I would then close the wound with pure alcohol and no sutures.

Eff with my kid? I think not.

The 17 year old Somalian has several serious crimes on his conscience, but the worst is probably the rape of a young girl at Hoybraaten

The one thing that indoctrination in Islam does is to destroy any shred of a conscience.

Seroiusly, take the local mullahs, nail them to the doors of their mosques, and disembowel them. I believe this used to be called the Blood Eagle.

.

concludes the Oslo City Court. Small girls are raped and robbed. Schoolchildren’s are threatened with death, robbed and assaulted

I apologize with the long-time readers but I need to repeat this for the new readers:

remember P-L's THREE STEPS OF THE INVASION:

- silent
(infiltrating the Country, occupying neighborhoods, asking gently for a little space to pray, a little space for a mosque, etc.)

- noisy
(massive ioccupation of whole areas, building of tens and hundreds of mosques, prosecuting any voice that protests, silencing the intellectuals in the universities, aggressing people and rioting)

- genocidal
(you don't need an explanation, do you ?)

Europe is between stage 2 and 3.
America is between 1 and 2.

muslims ARE the "KILL THEM ALL" crowd.

I see a pattern. The muslim male is only tough aginst a 13yr old girl or someone generally weaker. An American solider would put his ass through the street.

Are there not free men in Norway?

Am I supposed to feel sorry for them if they won't even act on THE most basic of man's duty: to protect our children and our women?

#1 M

Some rapes are more humiliating than others. For example, the protracted one described in this story is far more harmful than a brief, though horrific encounter. The damage he did to her throat (and probably her larynx) is no doubt permanent. HE CHANGED HER VOICE...

In other words, he left a public, physical reminder of her ordeal.

Somali Muslims are some of the most violent.

Charles, you're fortunate to have people to translate news articles...the information needs to get out.

KILL THE BASTARDS

They deserve to die. Death to rapists.
I'm sorry, I'm not feeling too "merciful" and if I saw the rapist, I would kill him myself and be happy to do it.

AG-3 would solve that problem quite well.

Religion of Rape in Singapore;

Muslim father pleads guilty to raping five teenage daughters

A Muslim father who enlisted the help of his multiple wives to rape five teenage daughters pleaded guilty in one of the most serious cases of sexual abuse in Singapore, news reports said Friday.

HatTip: Ringo the Gringo

taro:

I also find telling that the girl in question would rather take extralegal means (in this case, protection money) rather than rely on the obviously broken justice system. That's a telling sign. One and a half years for a brutal rape? Eventually something has got to give.

The young victim probably needs the money to get better counseling than the state is likely to provide. I won't judge her, yet I will agree that it's indicative of a lack of belief in the system's ability to deal with her situation in a meaningful or effective way.

If you don't admit the immigration problem when the result is brutal crimes against children, when do you? Never?

Charles: This was printed by Aftenposten, which is the dominant newspaper in the Oslo region. They printed a shocking rape statistic 5 years ago. I have asked both Aftenposten and other media why we haven't heard about this since. I suspect they are trying to "prevent Islamophobia."

05 Sep 2001: Oslo rape statistics shock

Bleeding heart liberalism + socialism + multiculturalism = certain disaster.

She was raped without a condom in a very humiliating way.

Be smart: Use a latex condom every time you have sex – and use it correctly.
Especially when you sodomize preteen infidel dogs use a condom every time!

/end sarc

The Youth was sentenced to four and half years in prison, where three years was made conditionally, which means he will serve only one and a half years.

Demonstrates that collectivists care more about collectivism than their own children.

This [bigoted word] deserves two things
1. one gallon of gas
2. a match in the hands of the victim

As a repeat offender he will no doubt recieve an enhanced sentence. Something like 20 years with 19 1/2 being conditional. That will teach the Muslimes a lesson.

That poor rapist is just misunderstood. He probably had a bad childhood. We should forgive him and rehabilitate him.

--modern liberal brain

Free Tookie Williams!

Ya know... I always thought The rRop;ers were a religion of piece. [Link: www.crazyabouttv.com...]

I think this is evidence of the long term effects of socialism and multiculturalism. When a society is homogenous, such as Norway and Sweden in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s, socialism is workable. In those decades, their society was composed of individuals that shared a common heritage and common values. I was lucky enough to have participated in a deployment to Trondheim Norway for one month in 1993, and I was very impressed. So much so that I would have moved there, had that been feasible. Although there were some individuals who took advantage of the benefits of the social system, by and large everyone there seemed industrious and happy. At least in 1993. Fast forward to the problems that are occuring now, when thousands of un-assimilated immigrants are taking advantage of the benifits of the Norwegian social system. The problems arise when these individuals despise the very society that provides for them. I am trying not to make this an indictment of any certain race or culture. Just an observation.

What a one-sided story! It doesn't present all the good that's come from Muslim immigration to the West. Like, uh, like... Tell you what, let me get back to you on that. But the bottom line is that we have to cater to these people and their culture, even if at the expense of our own. At least that's what I've been told by my betters.

#12 jagan

Oh my G-d.

#19 dymphna

MORE humiliating I would agree with.

#24 Fjordman

From your link:
Police Inspector Gunnar Larsen of Oslo's Vice, Robbery and Violent crime division says the statistics are surprising - the rising number of rape cases and the link to ethnic background are both clear trends. But Larsen does not want to speculate on the reasons behind the worrying developments

If this dhimmi behavior continues, and it seems that it will, I see no hope for Europe.

Let me try this again:
[Link: www.crazyabouttv.com...]
The Ropers ;

Ok please all the racist here need to stop with this bigoted talk. These men are Muslim and we need to understand that Muslim men cannot control themselves and to think otherwise is racist, you all should be ashamed. We all know that you cannot show any pictures or caricatures of Mohammed with out Muslim violence; this is no different than how Muslims cannot control them selves when a good looking woman is in their presence. Why do you think they make women wear the mask and tent clothing. so not only do we need to not show images of Mohammed for fear of death to the offenders, and the Muslim themselves as once they get riled up into a frenzy there will be collateral damage, women need to cover themselves for fear of rape. To think otherwise is racist and bigoted to the religion of peace.

/hopefully not needed

Dang it I give up

#32 LthrNck

I am trying not to make this an indictment of any certain race or culture

Yeah, well, stop trying.

The 17 year old Somalian has several serious crimes on his conscience...

Assuming he has a conscience. m said it best in the first post - rape isn't about sex, it's about the power.

I remember reading similar stories happening in Paris years ago. One question to ask is the problem getting worse? or is the European press finally reporting on it? Or worse: Both - increasing and the media can't ignore it anymore.

#29 FrogMarch

That poor rapist is just misunderstood.

I learned the other day that he's just an "undocumented boyfriend".

Norwegian laws, and its welfare system, were designed for highly civilized people, with values and work ethics in common. Of course that light sentence for the brutal rape of a child is inherently ludicrous, but these sort of crimes were extremely uncommon there not so long ago.

Permit me to provide a link to my favorite Steyn: Battered Westerner Syndrome inflicted by myopic Muslim defenders Here's the part that refers to Norway:

Five days before 9/11, the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet reported that 65% of the country's rapes were committed by "non-Western" immigrants -- a category which, in Norway, is almost wholly Muslim. A professor at the University of Oslo explained that one reason for the disproportionate Muslim share of the rape market was that in their native lands "rape is scarcely punished" because it is generally believed that "it is women who are responsible for rape."

So Muslim immigrants to Norway should be made aware that things are a little different in Scandinavia? Not at all! Rather, the professor insisted, "Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because their manner of dress would be regarded by Muslim men as inappropriate. "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it." Or to modify Queen Victoria's wedding-night advice to her daughter: Lie back and think of Yemen.

Norway's high-minded but ludicrous view that "diversity" is inherently valuable needs to be dumped. Immediately. And the "university professor" Steyn quotes should be tarred and feathered.

See's how slightly the rapist is being punished, I'm at least happy to see the little girl wasnt from a muslum family. She' probably be dead by now...for bringing "shame" to her family for having the nerve to be forcibly violated.

If any one of my girls got treated in this manner, I would probably be in jail right about now...and not just for 'simple assault' on the piece of sh*t who tried it.

#8 grayp -Very nice catch, indeed!

I swear, the older I get, the more I don't get it.
Back in the day,if this crap happened in my neighborhood on suburban Long Island, a bunch of us would get in our cars and mete out our own form of justice and the cops would do NOTHING to us (do not ask me how I know this).

The original article in Norwegian quickly got more than one hundred comments by readers. There were so many furious comments that the newspaper suddenly decided to remove them. I have a copy of some of them, and they went like "deport all Muslims," "impeach the government" and stuff like that. This would have been unthinkable only a couple of years ago, and is remarkable for a naive, Socialist Scandinavian country. In general, my impression is that a rapidly increasing part of the population either distrust Muslims or outright hate them. Only massive media censorship conceals this fact, and I suspect the same goes for much of Europe.

Here is a copy of these comments, in Norwegian:

Link.

#5 Blusman
Nobody deserves this to happen to them/their society, not the most dhimmified cowardly wuss. Nobody. It is easy to say you would avenge it, but how do you get to the perp? In these neighborhoods where police avoid? (that is true at least in France, can't speak for Norway)

This is just tragic. One western European country after another opens its collective arms to people from crappy countries to give them a better life - and they are repaid with the famous Arab hospitality.

#3 grayp

I'm surprised this was printed.

Aftenposten is considered Norway's conservative news print.
By American standards, this newspaper is still center/left. It's editorials are about equal to the New York Times, but they consider it far right of the mainstream.

Their centrist papers are Socialist and their
Left wing papers are outright Communist!

I have no problem with the sensible Norwegians legally immigrating to the USA.

Welcome.

Pull up a chair.

Here's a cold beer.

When Danes Pay Danegeld:­ The End of the Scandinavian Model

FOMI, a Norwegian anti-Islamic website, was recently charged with "racism and spreading Islamophobia" for translating an article from Frontpage Magazine, with comments, about a Muslim rape wave in the West. The number of rape charges in Sweden has quadrupled in just over twenty years, parallel with Muslim immigration.

48- yeh.
Preventable only by waiting for it at the gate on the date of its release...before it can arm itself?

Europeans, you are overdue in waging a guerilla war against the mohamedian invaders... Forget the socialist multi-culti bunghole licking LIE you have been force fed... It's time to fight back or the mohamedians will DESTROY YOU!

#46 Fjordman

There were so many furious comments that the newspaper suddenly decided to remove them. I have a copy of some of them, and they went like "deport all Muslims," "impeach the government" and stuff like that.

Excuse me. Was in not in Norway that the entire Cabinet showed up at a news conference to apologize over the cartoon BS.?

They should impeach their gov't. They should deport them too - to Iran.

OT: One killed in Islamist attacks on Alexandria churches

ALEXANDRIA, Egypt (AFP) - One Egyptian Christian was killed and at least 12 others wounded in knife attacks at three Coptic churches in the city of Alexandria, police and medical sources said.

The interior ministry said the rampage was carried out by a single attacker within the span of an hour, revising an earlier account by police that claimed three people had been involved.

The attacks on Egypt's minority Coptic Christian community marred the run-up to the Orthodox Easter celebrations starting in a week's time and were the worst outbreak of sectarian violence in Egypt in six months.

At a second church, survivors described a knife-waving assailant bursting into the building and sowing panic among worshippers.

"The attacker stormed the church armed with a knife and shouted 'There is no God but Allah' and 'Allah is the greatest' before stabbing the worshippers," said one of employees at Alexandria's Mar Girgis church.

Imagine this happened in a Mosque during Ramadan: a Christian extremist storms in and stabs Muslims to death. Just imagine.

49 DesertSage - Hi ya guy! I had to totter off to bed "early" last night - did you or St.Pancake sign up any more members of our MAS?

;>p

Anyone of Norsk descent still has the latent possibility of doing the blood eagle on the enemy, and the islamics are doing their best to set this off, and they better quit now, though I don't think they will.

Fjordman -

Don't give up the fight! You're doing great work, please keep it up.

If all you have to do is stand by and watch your daughter being gang raped in exchange for cradle to grave health care, well it's a pretty easy choice, at least for Europeans.

Europe:

"Tolerating intolerance in the name of Socialism!"

...also see: Idiots!

Sad, and sick.
These people are breathing my air, I'd like them to stop.

#49 DesertSgae

By American standards, this newspaper is still center/left. It's editorials are about equal to the New York Times

I know. I read the English version every once in awhile. Today they have a story about how the gov't seems a tad confused about funding the Palis.

Norway's Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre's warning that support to the Hamas-led Palestinian government would be halted surprised many government colleagues. Development Minister Erik Solheim's claim of continued support and total agreement with Støre has caused additional confusion.
Related stories:
Foreign minister catches flak for freezing Palestinian aid - 10.04.2006

#59 Geepers Hi Geeps!
I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, but I gotta tell ya I find it hard to believe that even euroweenies would "stand by and watch your daughter being gang raped in exchange for cradle to grave health care,..."

#56 realwest

Hey realwest. No, no more members of the MAS yet.
I have to scurry off to work now, but I'll be online tonight to see how you did...

#5 blusman

What has happened to "the Viking Spirit"? If men are not willing to protect/avenge their women, they deserve the destruction that will soon overtake them.

Give it time. There was an instance in Sweden a year or so back when the family of a girl raped by Muslims in Malmo went looking for the perps - armed with shotguns.

will the theives have their hands chopped off?

just saying: Muslim enclaves, Muslim laws?

OT but related, wrecking things: Friday morning wakeup

Jama Masjid blasts in New Delhi

[Link: timesofindia.indiatimes.com...]

How many rapes and murders are carried out each year in the US by illegal immigrants?

Last night on the History Channel there was a program on The Ten Commandments. Under the 'thou shalt not covet' segment, they discussed why women were segregated and covered in early societies - of course, to prevent 'coveting'.

There was a woman of middle eastern looking (oops, sorry for profiling) background, who helpfully explained that since the koran (yeah, I know it's spelled wrong and I don't care) states that men cannot control their instincts and women can, that is why women are covered in muslim societies.

So obviously, these rapists shouldn't be prosecuted - they just can't control themselves.

*spit*

Fjordman

Why I don't condone vigilantism on an individual or disorganized way, (it only makes restoring rule of law more like the O.K. corral in the end)

... how are the "Aware Norwegians" holding up ?

Since it is possible to possess shotguns and at least Biathalon rifles in Nordske, it is surmised in the west that the "Islamic Crime problem" is confined to the geographic areas of the criminals home environ, e.g. the muslim slums.

Has this "imported crime wave" of Norway also discovered "automobiles" to distribute it's effects far afield as it has here in California, or is it still confined largely to areas within and near the impoverished, (materially, morally and spiritually) areas of my wife's families orignal homeland ?

#46 Fjordman - I don't have any proof, even if it exists, but I feel in my bones that an incredible backlash is building and when it comes,
the average every day Norweigan is gonna go off on the muslims like crazy.
Like I said, I have no proof (other than those comments you posted) and there are days when I'm lucky to feel my own pulse (!) but I really feel a day of reckoning is coming and the muslims are gonna get whacked, really hard. Probably in spite of the government, but maybe leading to a new one.

Look, in Scandanavia, virtually everything is done through the state - particularly things related to crime and punishment. The idea of acting as an individual to protect yourself is not encouraged by the powers that be.

In Malmo, there are already local 'militias' of ethnic Swedes fed up of being raped, robbed and attacked by Muslims. To override the 'programming' of letting the state handle your concerns takes time - but it will happen. And when it does, everyone will regret not having this debate now and letting the fascists make the issue their own.

Hi Colt! Long time no see!

Um, Happy Birthday, btw...

Hello - thanks :-) Chag sameach to one and all.

Time for a little tradition that we Americans call "Vigilante Justice".

A long time ago, this happened:

And in the shock of the battle the men of the North seemed like a sea that cannot be moved. Firmly they stood, one close to another, forming as it were a bulwark of ice; and with great blows of their swords they hewed down the Arabs. Drawn up in a band around their chief, the people of the Austrasians carried all before them. Their tireless hands drove their swords down to the breasts of the foe.

Some Norwegians should remember.

#46 Fjordman

In general, my impression is that a rapidly increasing part of the population either distrust Muslims or outright hate them.

Do you think they've just recently begun to see the problem, or do you think they've just recently reached the level of exaspiration to where they're willing to come out and say what they've been thinking? I suspect the distrust and contempt runs a lot deeper than appears, but people were afraid to be socially ostracized as "right-wing" and "racist".

#70 Havoc - hey Havoc, haven't seen ya posting in a while - hope you're ok.
and while I hate to nitpick, you should know that the Gunfight at the OK Corral was ruled, by a court of law, that what law enforcement (the Earps and Doc Holliday) did there that day, did in fact uphold the law.

history wonk walks away slowly...

One can imagine the reaction in Norway and around the world had any or all of these youths been Jewish and not Muslim.

#68 Pro-Bush Canuck

28% of Federal prison inmates are illegal aliens. Another unknown % are legal aliens. If only 2%, that would mean that a group that represents !/27 of the population commits 30% of the ultra serious crime in America. Mexico presently harboe 1,500 murderers who potentially face the death penalty. The Muslim nations harbor an unknown number for thr samr reason.

#72 Colt - Hi Colt! You mean maybe I was right in my #71?
Oh and, Happy Birthday! LOL!

#42 m: Ouch! Funny though.

#63 realwest:

I find it hard to believe that even euroweenies would "stand by and watch your daughter being gang raped in exchange for cradle to grave health care,..."

They already are.

#47 Canadastani:

Nobody deserves this to happen to them/their society, not the most dhimmified cowardly wuss. Nobody.

Why not? If you take a swan-dive into a running wood chipper, you deserve to be mangled. If you repeatedly jab a lion with a short stick, you deserve the mauling. You're welcome to wish it were different, to wish they'd save themselves, to wish that someone else would save them from themselves... but the simple truth is that when you continue action (or inaction) that will lead to predictable results, you do deserve the consequences. Yes, I wish Islam wasn't so barbaric and its victims didn't have to suffer its barbarism. But when you knowingly invite in barbarians and even further support them, you do deserve the results of choosing to make barbarism part of your environment.

#46 fjordman
"The original article in Norwegian quickly got more than one hundred comments by readers. There were so many furious comments that the newspaper suddenly decided to remove them. I have a copy of some of them, and they went like "deport all Muslims," "impeach the government" and stuff like that. This would have been unthinkable only a couple of years ago, and is remarkable for a naive, Socialist Scandinavian country. In general, my impression is that a rapidly increasing part of the population either distrust Muslims or outright hate them. Only massive media censorship conceals this fact, and I suspect the same goes for much of Europe."

Well-said. Europeans behave they way they do in many cases because their media is very controlled. They don't realise it is controlled, at least they haven't realized - the blogs are cracking the wall a bit - more is needed, faster.
My Nordic-American relations are under the Lefty myth that the Scandinavian countries are inherently superior to the US - a myth that has been sold to the US/world public for years. Can't seem to get these people to open their eyes to see the reality.

The media and the Left constructed this myth and now they self-censor the news of the reality. It's a very bad combination that facilitates the distruction of the society from within, hiding to the people what is going on when they are able to fight back - deceiving the people until they are so outmanuvered when they finally go to fight they are at a disasterous disadvantage.

#72 Colt

In Malmo, there are already local 'militias' of ethnic Swedes fed up of being raped, robbed and attacked by Muslims

Hunh. Malmo, the original Scandanavian no-go area.

Maybe one day it will be safe for the cops again.

Losers.

If Norway had a 2nd Ammmendment, there would be a few less gang-rapers and a bunch more having second thoughts.

#80 pat - WHOA! Those are some amazing stats! It's not that I don't believe you, but do you have any link(s) I'd like to read this stuff myself.
Thanks.

realwest (#64),

Hey realwest.

Well it's not literal, yet it seems that the Europeans have given away their personal responsibility for government protection.

#46 Fjordman
CBS: The more you know about Islam, the less you like it. No wonder the Scandanavians censor Islamic news.

When a government can no longer guarantee, within reason, the safety of its youngest citizens, that government's days are numbered and that system of government's days may also be numbered.

I don't believe Western European countries are going to fall to Islamism. As bad as things seem now, there's still a long way to go before the critical mass of non-Muslim citizens in those countries conclude their way of life is threatened.

At that point however, the government will act and it will be bloody and chaotic. But in the end Islamism will be beaten back by force because that's the only thing Islamists understand. Legal immigration of Muslims will be halted and even Chinese-style penalties for excessive numbers of births may be instated (don't laugh, the opposite is already happening).

But, barring a pullback from the multicultural slow motion train wreck, I really do believe liberal Democracy in Europe as practiced today is doomed because the mass of Muslims simply don't buy into it due to their religio-racist mindset. You cannot have consensual government without the consent of the overwhelming majority of the governed. The social democracies of Europe will be replaced by more restrictive derivations. At worst, we'll see South African-style apartheids emerge but I suspect more likely we'll see a "soft class" apartheid. The sad part is the remaining majority will consider it a fair trade to regain a sense of security and stability within their own borders.

Colt -

Hiya Colt. Thanks for your message the other day, I really appreciated it.

#87 Geepers - yeah, not literally but figuratively I guess your right about that, but I'm
hopeful, based on those letters that Fjordman reported about, that they can still turn things around.
I'm also thinking that #82 Model4 was speaking figuratively as well.

85 Lizard by the Bay

If Norway had a 2nd Ammmendment, there would be a few less gang-rapers and a bunch more having second thoughts.

Note that while Switzerland has muslims, they don't have a crime problem.

#86 realwest  

Those stats were reported on Fox News last week during the Illegal Immigration street celebration last week. Neal Cavuto show, about Thursday.

#72 Colt:

In Malmo, there are already local 'militias' of ethnic Swedes fed up of being raped, robbed and attacked by Muslims. To override the 'programming' of letting the state handle your concerns takes time - but it will happen. And when it does, everyone will regret not having this debate now and letting the fascists make the issue their own.

Yep. The ruling class are making the citizens decide between lawlessness and survival, or standing by and watching their country and loved ones violently victimized. Of course survival is going to win at some point, even if the cost of survival is abandoning the law (and as an emotional bonus abandoning a government/system of government that has shown it doesn't care at all about the primary needs of the governed).

So what could be handled in a lawful, consensual and objective way will be handled with anger, unaccountability and lethal brutality. The new leadership that will rise in such a climate will likely be frightening indeed. A lot of the good of liberalism and enlightenment will be lost, just because the people can't be bring themselves to part with the kook extreme parts of liberalism that are leading their society to its inevitable demise.

#82 Model4

Some of us are "into" current events, being vigilant, seeing the enemy for what it is (that would include you and me, I believe). The same is true of soldiers - it is the best and most altruistic of us who serve and defend our societies abroad so that we do not have to fight on our own streets.

Most of us just live our lives, go to work, do our things. A teenage girl with her mind on homework or the latest highschool/ middle school gossip does not deserve to be gang raped. Her parents do not deserve to find their little girl on the verge of death with a new voice. These people were not repeatedly jabbing at the lion, they were living in what they thought was a reasonably safe world and sharing their riches with the less fortunate. Yes, the actions and inactions of Western/ European/ Norwegian society has led to predictable results. Together we can change it (over a long time), but how can one victim or one family reshape their environment? And how can one read this story with anything but empathy?
Western nations have allowed much immigration (legal and illegal) from third world countries because we believed that they wanted to be like us - as previous immigrant waves had. We (in the US, yes I am in the US) are lucky to be farther from the Ummah, so our experience has been better so far. Still, it is EMPATHY with these victims that starts the process of closing borders to those who will not assimilate - not sitting back with a smirk and saying "I told you so".

Norway's population is about 4.5 million.

Wow.

As an American, I often times forget just how friggin' *small* these countries are.

Hell, we have double the population of Norway here in the U.S. in illegally present Mexicans alone!

Wow.

Seems to me that the last thing you'd want to do in a house that small is import Somalis.

But it's not my house.

Oh this "youths" thing is really just so cute.

I geuss the "youths" of europe are all like the teenagers in clockwork orange.

Except their all muslims and don't wear cool costumes.

#97 Canadastani: I never stated that the individuals deserved to be victimized, so kindly stop pretending that I did. The society deserves to have itself and its individuals victimized for making choices that would lead to it. You can also stop pretending that there was a "smirk" or an "I told you so" behind the post as well. If there's something I've done to you that sheds light on why you'd assume the worst motivations behind what I write, perhaps its something we can work out. If not, then why are you doing this?

Still, it is EMPATHY with these victims that starts the process of closing borders to those who will not assimilate

It's a possible path, though far from an ideal one. I prefer government policies based on reason, and dangerous situations prevented before they occur, not allowed and then perhaps rectified down the road at a glacial pace. If anything, its misplaced empathy that's lead to this disaster, another mark against using emotion as the basis for government decisions.

Europe is shot, gone, it's over. Socialism does that to people, it's always someone else's (the state's) problem. The families are shot, the work ethic is shot, and don't even mention personal responsibility.

Write the whole damn place off and buy Indian.

#32-

When a society is homogenous, such as Norway and Sweden in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s, socialism is workable.

respectful disagreement: it can't last; eventually it pulls itself apart.

I'm reminded of conversations where the point is made, referring to Cuba, China, the USSR's implementation of communism, that "we've really never seen real communism in action" due to the totalitary nature of those regimes. I always reply, "No, I think we've seen it at it's best".

realwest -

Everything is fine.

And re: Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday,
Virgil and Morgan Earp fighting the
McLaurys and Clantons

I am well aware.

When "everyone does what is right in his own eyes" -- it unfortunately results in a violent convulsions until local law enforcement is able to restore order.

#99 pegcity -

I geuss the "youths" of europe are all like the teenagers in clockwork orange.

Damn! You beat me to it!

It hearkens to that old guy's speech - "It's a stinking world because it lets the young get onto the old like you done, and there's no law and order no more.'It's no world for a man any longer, and that means that I'm not one bit scared of you, my boyos, because I'm too drunk to feel the pain if you hit me and if you kill me I'll be glad to be dead." -p. 14, Clockwork Orange
--

Prophetic. Europe, especially France, to a "T."

You know, every now and then you read something that takes away just a little bit of your humanity, something that makes you just a little more comfortable with that dark place in your soul that no civilized human being wants to admit to. This is one of those times. Its strange how highly correlated this feeling has been lately to one particular demographic group.

#10 THANK YOU Terp Mole

Jesus was NOT a pussy pacifist.

This article just enrages me past anything describable. I want to airlift every member of code pink into this neighborhood. Let the bitches fend for themselves because they are aiding and abetting this enemy and therefore putting every woman and girl in this country at risk for this type of abuse.

18 Kevin V. Don't feel sorry for the men. But hell, yeah feel sorry for the women and children.

#102 .45ACP:

In general, I agree with that statement. Socialism does tend to fall to pieces at a certain point. I recall an essay entitled "democracy is temporary" wherein the author points out that once people realize they can vote themselves largess out of the public coffer, they are finished. In the case of Norway, there was a relatively small population with social benefits provided by state owned oil companies. While their population remained small and homogenous and the oil profits remained steady, they had a workable system. At least for the time being.

Throw in a little islam, and everything goes to hell.

What is most disturbing about these Muslim rapes is the very young age of the females in question. Females who, in Western culture, would be considered basically as children.

In Australia, one of the notorious gang-rape victims was 14. A 13-year-old in Oslo. There was a notorious case in Denmark, I believe, where the victim was only 13 and mentally handicapped as well.

They not only pick on women, they target the weakest possible women. Children and/or the mentally handicapped.

Why weren't they trying this crap when us "Oilfield-trash" lived on the west coast of Norway? Oh yeah, people from Texas, Oklahoma and Louisana have a unique way of dealing with rabid animals like that.

It took centuries of hard and ingenious work to build the civilized western society and it will take just a few short years for this civilization to commit colective suicide.

#100 Model4

I said "Nobody deserves to have this happen to them/ their society"
You said "Why not?" and went on with examples, followed by "you do deserve the consequences."
I opposed those examples and stated that most in society are apathetic.
Finally, you said "I never stated that the individuals deserved to be victimized, so kindly stop pretending that I did."

So how exactly am I to know what you mean?

If you really want to know why I thought the worst of your post, I will explain. Few (individually or society-wide) would have the foresight to assume that a wave of migrants are fifth column rapists. Your assertions after the "why not?" (poking a lion, etc) seemed to imply that someone or a society could know this in advance. Rightly or wrongly, this struck me as both harsh and smug - blaming the victim - so I replied as I did.

Seeing stories like this make my blood boil (the empathy) and I imagine that it does the same to Norwegians. This emotion is the impetus to changes in immigration laws that would be far more rational for the survival of Norway.

I am not looking for a multi-topic rival or a flame war and I am happy to drop the point.

48 savage nation--and there you have the problem. If the girls' fathers went after these bastards and gave them what they deserve, you can bet they'd get a long sentence for "vigilantism." Then their family is more of a sitting duck than they were before.

From the original piece

All suspects are of foreign origin Muslims

AUGH!

This isn't about "Youths" and "Youthful" hijinks and "Youths" doing this, and "Youths" doing that! (I love the way they use the word "Youth" over and and over and over! Hmmm, what religion do these generic "Youths" belong to, one wonders? Why, Zen Buddhism, of course!/sarc.)

This is about the worldwide jihad. These "Youths" are attempting to destroy the society they're living in at the moment---doing a pretty good job of it, too.

Watch out, lest it happen here!

Are these victims white, blonde swedes?. Or are they "swedes" the way the london bombers were "british"? Not that it matters, but I am curious if this is a case of muslims being themselves and desecrating their own women? Or is there a marked racial element to these assaults?

#19

"Somali Muslims are some of the most violent."

Yup. Ask the good people of the Twin Cities about their Somalian "guests." Things are pretty bad in certain places where the Somalians congregate.

#23

"If you don't admit the immigration problem when the result is brutal crimes against children, when do you? Never?"

Never is right.

#25 FrogMarch

"Bleeding heart liberalism + socialism + multiculturalism = certain disaster."

That's a fact.

Yes, OK, so she was brutally raped and her life was ruined forever.

But was she made to wear ladies underwear? If not, the msm won't be interested.

/Sarcasm off - time to deport all muslims from western societies. This isn't a wish, it's a necessity. 15 years time will be too late for many western societies and this sort of thing will be legal and normal (unless a muslim girl is the victim of non muslims).

I'm suprised they don't use a

"rape is a religous sacrament of Islam and must be respected, dhimmis"

defense in court.

Norway is a great country to live in. I spent some time there over ten years ago when no such problems were visible. The people who escape third world hellholes because Norway took them in and sheltered them should feel nothing but gratitude to that country. But the Somalis and their fellow muslim rapists don't see things that way. They translate genorousity into weekness. Thanks to the media/govt stranglehold of the lunatic human rights/anarcist/crusty scum (I won't call them liberals because there's nothing liberal about them), these muslim fuckers think they can do what they please in Europe. To those who kept posting here that Europe is finished, I say don't bet on it. The battle hasn't started and probably won't until the 2010s. But it will start.

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