Mind. Boggles.

Cannot process this.

/shutdown

"Temporary" my ass.

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

there's no such thing as temporary when government is involved.

Girl Puh-leeeze, NOTHING is going to stop the coming palestinian Civil War....except a Civil War!

Let them slide into civil war. The more dead Hamas, the better for Israel.

New Al-Quida subordinate in the PLO, and it has a new name

"Islamist army of AL-Quds"

[Link: www.a7.org...]

PS: Its in Hebrew

What's with the shark fin coming out of the flag?

/sarcasm off/

When do the Palestinian people get to take responsibility for their actions?

This was inevitable. Let's see what happens.

I remember a guy who once said:

"We do not negotiate with Terrorists"

&

"You are either with US or with the Terrorists"

What ever happened to that guy?

THERE IS ONLY ONE THING TO DO & THAT IS VOTE OUT EVERY INCUMBANT COME THE NEXT ELECTIONS.

NO TO DEMOCRAPS & NO TO REPUBLICANTS.

The people we have elected NO LONGER ACT IN THE INTERESTS OF THE UNITED STATES OR ITS CITIZENS!

VOTE THEM OUT OR REVOLUTION! But we MUST do something.

warned of a civil war if the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority was left to collapse.

They say that like it's a bad thing.

/scratches head in wonderment.

The quartet expressed its willingness to endorse a temporary international mechanism that is limited in scope and duration, operates with full transparency and accountability,” said the quartet statement.

Fercryingoutloud, how many blatant lies can they fit into one sentence?

And mark my words, this will be interpretted in Gaza and the West Bank that the West capitulating to the fearsome Hamas and it will only embolden the murder cult to keep on killing.

It is utterly ridiculous to take our foot off Hamas' throat until they cry Uncle in total humiliation. G* how stupid we are.

Let me explain more, panflets were circulated last night in Gaza Strip.
In the panflet it announces of an organization which proclaims its name to be " the Islamist army of El Kuds ".

That they are part of Al Qaida under the " Ribat " ( nickname to Palestine ).

Later on in the article, it states The Shabak stopped some number of activists of Al Qaida that acted in Nablus and stood in the contact with infrastructure of the organization in north Jordan.

#12 WrathofG-d

I know, well Geula is almost here as the world is extremly upside, right is left, up is down, down is up, right is wrong, wrong is right.

PS: I think you might enjoy this

[Link: kahane.hostultra.com...]

*rubs forehead in disbelief while emitting dull drone*

/I am utterly speechless

What is Bush doing?

Who in the h*ll is he listening to?

All I can say in response of this is a quote from Rav Ovadia Yosef:

"The Lord shall return the murderers' deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and vanish them from this world."

I feel like puking.

So the U.S. will continue the jizya payments and HAMAS will subcontract the terrorism to PIJ or some other group with "Al-Ansar" "Jihad" or "Sunnah" in its name. Is that about it, again?

Organisms as stupid as western leaders don't deserve to survive. Blow the whole thing up and hope the racoon can continue to develop.

Was I wrong in the previous thread?

It is only the beginning...

Now Hamas can withstand another failure for another 3/4/5 months and not agree to anything and do what ever shitt he does.

#12 WrathofG-d

VOTE THEM OUT OR REVOLUTION! But we MUST do something.

What the hell have you been smoking?

Are you going to attack the Haliburton Weather Machine next?

Sometimes civil war is the best possible political solution. Tends to get all of the issues front and center and creates an appreciation for stability. Once the killing is over, the common sensed usually comes to the fore.

Roadmap To Peace = Roadmap To Hell

“It is to provide assistance to the Palestinian people so they do not suffer deprivation,” she said.

These idiots voted for deprivation and everything that follows. Let them wallow in it.

And tell her to shutup.

#9

What's with the shark fin coming out of the flag?

The Palis are proud of having "jumped the shark".

Has the US caved in before France!
Say it ain't so......

Just keep twisting that knife in our backs with the $ we send.

It sux we caved in.

Would someone please explain why these people are never expected to become self-sufficient? Talk about the ultimate welfare state!

#12, WrathofG-d. You sure have a rational knack for leadership. Not.

1st Principals of "our" that is Western Civilization include, "Actions Have Consequences." You voted for that regime? Fine, it is yours. Now if you claim that concept is euro or judeo-greco centric and in your civilization actions don't have consequences, or for that matter money is not lent at interest, then again fine. Give it a whirl, conduct an experiment. Just don't ask others to pick up your checks.

Chutzpah that is what it is, just chutzpah.

#11 Mike C.

This was inevitable. Let's see what happens.

Agreed, this should not surprise anyone. What should also not surpise anyone is that the Palestinian Misery Machine™ will continue regardless of US funding. I say let's allow them their misery and save our money.

OT and I apologize but this from Lilek's is just too good not to share. It is his "copy" of Iran's letter to President Bush -- it starts

Dear Infidel Crusader Zionist sock-puppet Saudi-lackey depoiler of Mesopotamia woman-touching pigdog fiendish (293 words excised) Shah-licking son of a toad’s offal: I trust this finds you well. I have much on my mind, and have taken the pen to unburden my breast. I have enclosed a self-addressed stamped envelope should you wish to reply.

(429 words concerning Jewish penetration of the Postal System excised)

. . . Do you not realize you are beaten, as a donkey is beaten, but knoweth not his donkeyhood is cursed? Your comics have turned against you in your own lair, and mock you without mercy. We have seen the videos of the Meal of the Correspondents, and we know how your left regards the men of the laugh as prophets and seers. It is only a matter of time before Johnny Carson (applause be upon him) returns from occlusion to request that you, Mr. President, take the Slauson cutoff, get out of your car, and cut off your Slauson, Hi-yo, salaam. And a third part of the Slauson shall be stained with the tears of the womenfolk, and (9323 words excised)

. . . Our people glow with pride over our nuclear efforts, sometimes literally. I repeat that the enrichment is for peaceful purposes only, and we seek only peace, and peace is our goal, and there is nothing more we love than peace. Except death. Sorry; forgot. Death is definitely number one. In third place of things we love, well, there were those nice ice-cream desserts they had at this little place in Tehran. When I was Mayor I had them brought in on Fridays. Good times, good times. But once I found a hair.

ROFL...read the whole thing.

:-)

#9 abc123 5/9/2006 03:25PM PDT
What's with the shark fin coming out of the flag?

/sarcasm off/

Maybe they are

And the hits just keep coming.

[T]he World Bank warned on Monday that the Palestinian Authority could face a breakdown in law and order and basic services unless foreign donors step in to pay the salaries of about 165,000 civil servants.

These are a very orderly and lawful people after all. /
Since when is it the duty of foreign donors to pay the saleries of the civil servants of a(nother) hostile government?
[Rhetorical questioning mode off]

"...[T]he international community is still trying to respond to the needs of the Palestinian people...”

UN: "What do you need? More flags to burn? More guns and ammo? How can we help?"

There is just so much that is wrong with this whole episode. I wish I could articulate my gut feeling without resorting to screaming!

#30 Ghost,

Would someone please explain why these people are never expected to become self-sufficient?

Ummm...Because we always give them money so they don't have to?

/just guessing

ok all I TAKE IT BACK.

We shouldn't vote out those that don't represent us.

We shouldn't actually do anything about a government that is misguided & traitorous.

We should just sit around & comment about the travesties of our "elected" government on LGF because that is really effective!

I'M SURE THAT IS 100%, EXACTLY WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS WOULD HAVE DONE HAD THEY BEEN UPSET & DISAPOINTED WITH THEIR GOVERNEMENT...

...oh wait, were not ENGLISH anymore are we?...

...now I'm just confused...I thought we were Patriots & Americans...never mind...nothing to see here....

any speaking of changing a broken system should be discouraged...my bad...

in chorus now: bahhhh bahhhh bahhhhhhhhh

A Star of David on the blue field of the American Flag---how original. Between the Islamists and the Leftists, it's been done about 5,934,672 times.

The sad facts are that it's just getting worse and worse before any notion of 'better' is coming along....let's face it. Perhaps, we're all just in denial. We're enlightened, advanced and utterly useless in the face of the Arab propaganda machine. Unfortunately, we're going to suffer the consequences of not holding people (using that word verrra looosely) like the palestinians to task for their corrupt ways. By sending them money we collude in their Taqwa-induced actions and that is plain wrong. Fundamentalist Islam's outrage continues to be outrageous. Now this latest atrocity. How in the world could the palestinians need help with all the billions arafish must have buried around his bunker....maybe there's a hint of the whereabouts of said money in the infamous red binder?

/learning the lesson of futility

#38. Have you ever thought about getting into politics yourself? As I recall, the founding fathers were rather involved in the political process, or havn't you heard. Dammit, participate in the process and quit your pathetic whining.

Why do we insist upon keeping this war going? It's been 40 years or so that WE the United States of America has insisted upon keeping the Palestinians at war with Israel. Whenever it looks like Israel is about to win we step in to stoke up the flames.

You know where this is going, don't you?

The Rose Garden

[Link: archives.cnn.com...]

30 ghost- I've said before that with the amount of money that has been provided to that hell hole, there is no reason that they don't live in properly constructed houses with electricity, running water, proper sewers and drive their children to schools in Mercedes and Jaguars. But then, Arafat's wife wouldn't be able to live a life of luxury in Paris if the money had been used as intended- while every contributor pretended that Arafat wasn't really stealing.

“It is to provide assistance to the Palestinian people so they do not suffer deprivation,”

And now, how are they supposed to draw the correlation between their actions in electing Ham-ass and the sorry state they're in?

“It is to provide assistance to the Palestinian people so they do not suffer deprivation,” she said.

Thats NOT our job--those "people" elected a government and should be forced to rely on that government to ensure they don't "suffer deprivation".

#38 WrathofG-d

So what exactly did President Bush do that is so traitorous? Did he fail to consult you on a policy decision?

Say you have a expensive mountain bike. Do you scrap the whole thing because a gear slipped?

Sorry, but the way I see it, calling for revolution puts you in with the sheep because you're so willing to go to extreme measures to correct a simple problem.

The sky isn't falling.

#38 WrathofG-d

were not ENGLISH anymore are we

We never were just English, you left out German, Dutch, French and a bunch of others. If you are going to go off the deep end with your rants at least try to get one or two facts in there.

#38, oh yeah, the system the system is broken, or do you just choose not to be a part of it. Being a citizen is never easy in troubled times. It is even harder when you are a follower rather than a leader, and don't know who to follow or why.

Q. how many presidential administrations and sessions of congress before we defeated the barbary pirates who didnt have the strategic benefits of 20th century oil ticks?

A. Several

#48 gymnast

Amen to that.

#42 luigi
Whenever it looks like Israel is about to win we step in to stoke up the flames.

The pic u posted just about says it all but leaves out our State Department 'buddies' - wish we could see pics of their traiterous asses for a change!

Wrath of G-d

I hear you and you're not ranting. It's obvious our 'due process' is going to be long overdue...revolution is a state of mind..we need a pr machine equal to or greater than the arabs at the moment..any ideas?

In the old economic game of guns or butter, you let the asswipes who want to spend the money on the guns starve their people until the people demand butter.

And if that means some Palis need to die of starvation or inhuman conditions due to their electing a terrorist organization to be their representative, that is what needs to happen.

If we take away the motivation of the Palis to change their government, and elect leaders whom are "reasonable", then we have helped the terrorists.

That my government did this is appalling. That any government did this is appalling.

The wages of appeasement are unpleasant indeed. We may find this out, again, the hard way.

#49 frapping gn0bheadz

IIRC, America fought the Barbary Pirates sometime either just before or just after the War of 1812. We won. Even back then as a young nation just on our feet, we went to the other side of the world and engaged and beat terrorism that Europe was just paying off.

The sky isn't falling, but the Bush Administration (that I've supported endlessly--at this site and others) hasn't do us any favors today between funding the Paleos and funnelling info about the Minutemen to the Mexican authorities. Why is it so hard for a party that controls the White House, both houses of Congress, and (lately) the Supreme Court to STEP THE HELL UP and lead this country where the voters that elected them would like to be lead?

#48 gymnast

Being a citizen is never easy in troubled times.

Can I have fries with that? I mean, if the sky is falling and all......

Fair enough. The concern is that Hamas is effectively an enemy body but that the Palestinians rely on certain services that other countries had agreed to fund. If there is a way of providing some assistance that absolutely cannot fund the Islamist campaign I am for it and good luck. I propose that whatever fund the Quartet sets up they should invite other states in the region to contribute rather than fund Hamas, and if whatever it is is abused it must end.

#49. "to the shores of Tripoli"

Hey relax you guys. The congress will step forward and cut funding for this.

Won't they?

If there is a way of providing some assistance that absolutely cannot fund the Islamist campaign I am for it and good luck.

Your quest runs afoul of the "Guns or butter" test. By definition any food, clothing, shelter, etc money that we provide ("butter") leaves Hamas and company free to spend THEIR (allegedly limited) money on guns and bombs to kill Israelis with. By funding the Paleos "needs", Israelis will (in the end) die because of our charity.

President Bush is under an intense, orchestrated, and sustained attack from the media that rivals and surpasses the venom they spewed at Ronald Reagan. Every misstep is magnified and exagerated.

Has the Minutemen information leaked to the Mexican Government story iron-clad true?

#56, Sarah D. Fries? Take the Supersize and I'll throw in a "Happy Meal" for nothing. The guy upthread seems to be a few fries short of his "Happy Meal" today. But he's got a chicken in his pot. Or somewhere.

#62 gymnast

I'll take the happy meal, 'cause it makes me happy right?

I think you mean he has a little chicken somewhere......

(noticing a total lack of, well, alternate rational plans here)

Why all the complaints about the US? Answer: for the same reason people bitch about Israel. A double standard. We expect nothing from many, including some allies, and they still fail to live up to our expectations. We whine and open up on those who might listen, those who are civilized.

Failure to settle the West Bank prior to some other 'peace' or 'political settlement' is not the fault of Americans.

Open and aggressive settlement of the West Bank should be encouraged (is it too late?). The second 'palestinian' state seems to be having problems. Next move...let's see how a second Jewish state, less dhimmi, manages things.

The group of international mediators — the United States, Russia, the European Union and the United Nations — issued a statement after a day of talks in which Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia warned of a civil war if the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority was left to collapse.

Uhhh, so why the fuck doesn't Saudi Arabia fund these assholes? They don't have the money? I have as much desire for one cent of American money to go to these death worshipping, car-swammers, as I have of funding Maplethorpe photos. Does any nation on earth do shit but the U.S.?

#65 jehu

*tsk - tsk*

Such language jehu!

Fuck, assholes, and shit all in one paragraph!

Crusader (#60),

Maybe so. Perhaps with this fund the Quartet can use its benevolent position to bring to the fore issues such as Hamas weapons purchases and the loss of $450k in a Kuwaiti hotel room and make clear who is really witholding and misspending pay. I acknowledge the Quartet does not give much sign of doing that but Hamas' supposed "ceasefire" will not hold water for much longer and at the breaking point Palestinians should know which side their bread is buttered. It is hugely important that Hamas will not support the Palestinian people and so other countries are attending to them (while in Darfur...). Hamas will obtain funding one way or another, but let the Palestinian masses not depend on Islamists. It is a trial run and we'll see.

I could be wrong, but I'm going to assume this has something to do with Iran, some chip the administration is calling in, in exchange for what it likely sees as a losing hand in stiffing Hamas. The EU is going to funnel money to Hamas anyway, under or over the table. If the U.S. is able to barter its seal of approval for something substantial when the time comes to hit Iran, who's to say it won't be worth it.

Unfortunately, it won't be until after THAT war and the books come out that we'll find out what may have been gained in this swap.

I am afraid this does it. I am taking my W04 sticker off the car. For three years I drove my car with this sticker in the enemy territory of Moonbatistan (a.k.a Commonwealth of Massachusetts) but he just lost me. He caved in, like the rest of them. No guts.

Sarah D

Such language jehu!

Fuck, assholes, and shit all in one paragraph!

Shouldn't bother you Sarah dear, seeing you usually have your fingers in your ears as you whistle though the graverard.

This is absolutely pukeworthy. I can hardly process it. Who cares whether these bastards starve? Let them take some of their bomb money (and giant-knife-in-flag money) and buy food with it -- or better yet, grow food with it.

Giving money to these people is like setting out food for cockroaches. (No, I'm insulting the cockroaches here.)

They love death so much? Then let them die.

WTF?

The move came after the World Bank warned on Monday that the Palestinian Authority could face a breakdown in law and order

WTF?

It is to provide assistance to the Palestinian people so they do not suffer deprivation,” she said.

WTF?

Aww, hell. That is MY tax money they are going to funnel to these *ssholes.

Sh*t . Sh*t . SH*T!

#70 jehu

Shouldn't bother you Sarah dear, seeing you usually have your fingers in your ears as you whistle though the graverard.

Oh no jehu, the fingers are in my ears to keep out your irrational screeching.

Now, how about let's hear your plan for stopping the imminent implosion of the PA, or for stopping them from being funded by like minded terroristic regimes.

Hmmm?

What is so odd about US support for the Palestinians is that meets no identifiable policy goal. It clearly does not further the development of a peaceful and productive society in areas under the control of the PA. It doesn't even buy good will in other Arab communities. The Arabs in general appear to be thorougly sick of the Palestinians and only champion their cause to get a rise out of westerners who have already telegraphed a weakness on this issue. If the Arabs mentioning the events of 1947, not a large scale expulsion, got the same blank look that a German mentioning the actual expulsion of millions from Eastern Europe gets then the topic would have been dropped decades ago.

Just on Fox News. Fatah and Hamas reach a peace accord. With each other. Should last a little while, 10, 12 hours maybe.

Well, I'll check later.

The Art of Passionate Disagreement

[Link: www.chabad.org...]

The move came after the World Bank warned on Monday that the Palestinian Authority could face a breakdown in law and order....

Prior to sending any more U.S. tax revenue to the Palestinians, the "Quartet" and the World Bank should be required to provide evidence of existing law and order in Gaza.

Never let it be said that we are not compassionate within the bounds of our resources and our national security.
I advocate sending all the tainted poultry from Southeast Asia to feed the starving troops of Hamas.

Looks like Hamas has been taking lessons from the far-Left on "How to make your demonstration more impactful through the use of paper maché"

#78, see #77s link. Maybe you might wish a more coherent discussion of of something more relaxing, like ornithology?

77 Babbazee

From your link:

The Talmud says that divergent views can both be seen as the words of the living G-d (Talmud, Eruvin, 13b). There is a deep profundity in this statement. As long as we are taught to appreciate that divinity is also found within the view of people who disagree with us, then respect and dignity will be paid to intellectual opponents.

This Talmudic dictum implores us to engage with people who are in our opinion mistaken, because although their view may not be ultimately accepted, it is nonetheless legitimate. This element of respect for the views of others is a critical ingredient of a decent, harmonious, strong and healthy society.

Hello Babba!

/gotta go for now. Great article.

Passionate disagreement may also be considered utter and complete crap.

#52 kafir - "In the old economic game of guns or butter, you let the asswipes who want to spend the money on the guns starve their people until the people demand butter."
Um, last I heard the North Koreans are still starving their people to spend their money on "guns" and the leadership of NK is still in place.
Having said that, the only reason I can see the US signing on to this is that we're trying to collect chips from, especially, Russia, for the coming showdown with Iran.
I would dearly love to know, however, how much money their Arab brethern are giving to avoid a civil war amongst the Pali's. Remember Tsuanmii relief where donations by private citizens and companies to the most populous Islamic state in the World exceeded, in the aggregate, all of the aid given by all the Muslim nations in the world? Seems like Muslims are big on talk and short on action on assisting their fellow muslims in times of financial crisis.
My solution for the Quartet would be to creating a matching funds sort of thing where the quartet would give one dollar for every dollar the members of the Arab League gave to the Pali's.

ymeagain: he just lost me. He caved in, like the rest of them. No guts.

Like Johnson, Bush never served in the military, having evaded the draft during a time of war(in Johnson's case, it was WWII). That act of cowardice does something profound to your character over time. We're just seeing the condition displayed these days because we were stupid enough to vote Bush into office twice.

Adding to Bush's two acts of appeasement today regarding the Mexican-US border and paying off the Paleo scumbags, was his statement today that "diplomacy" is going to be the only way to deal with Iran.

When did Bush decide to surrender?

#85, the Bruce. Another subject for ornithology? Or Taxidermy? Last I heard, both were serving military officers. I'll bet you were a flier weren't you?

#84 realwest

There was an article recently talking about how Hamas may have their hand out to their brother arabs, but they are comeing home with lots of promises and little cash.

My solution for the Quartet would be to creating a matching funds sort of thing where the quartet would give one dollar for every dollar the members of the Arab League gave to the Pali's.

Makes sense, but my question would also be: how much influence do donating countries have on the PA/Hamas?

Passionate disagreement is liberal-speak for "dissent". Dissent is fine, except when it is to the exclusion of all other thought.

Like Johnson, Bush never served in the military, having evaded the draft during a time of war(in Johnson's case, it was WWII).

Yet another idiot.

#85 The Bruce -"Like Johnson, Bush never served in the military," I beg your pardon? Bush served in the Air National Guard for something like 5 years during the Vietnam War. Just because he didn't see combat doesn't make him a "draft evader".

#84 realwest
Interesting idea. Why not make it a fund that would provide equal relief to provide food and independant food and educational services to people in the PA, Darfur, post tsunami devastated regions (Aceh) and the Congo? Equal shares from the US, the EU and the OIC (Organization of the Islamic Conference.)

Yankee Infidel:

Tue May 9, 12:23 PM ET

SUN CITY CENTER, Florida (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Tuesday his administration viewed diplomacy as the first and most important option in dealing with the standoff over Iran's nuclear program.

Bush spoke a day after Iran's president sent the U.S. president an 18-page letter, which Bush administration officials dismissed as a move by Tehran to divert attention from the nuclear issue.

The letter from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was the first publicly announced personal communication from an Iranian president to his U.S. counterpart since the 1979 Islamic revolution.

Bush, who was asked at a forum with older Americans what the United States would do if Iran obtained a nuclear bomb, did not mention the letter from Ahmadinejad.

However, he discussed the West's concerns about Iran's nuclear program and said Iran must not be allowed to get the bomb.

"The first option and the most important option is diplomacy," Bush said. "I believe we can accomplish this through diplomacy."

----

Johnson never served in the military during WWII---Robert Caro's bio exposed Johnson for the fraud that he was.

Me: Like Johnson, Bush never served in the military, having evaded the draft during a time of war(in Johnson's case, it was WWII).

Sarah the Dope: Yet another idiot.

You still in school, honey?

12 no. do some research. visit your rep and senators' web sites. if they are decent, vote for them and support them. if they are awful, do whatever you can to support somebody better in the primaries.

Bush can't run again. Sad to have to remind people on my own side about that.

#93 THe Bruce
There is nothing new in that, just standard boilerplate. Of course we prefer diplomacy and hope it will work.

Wasn't Johnson already in Congress, got a uniform and a Bronze Star for a milk run flight? Not heroic but not shocking.

You f++king idiots prefer to be more like EUnuchstan? That IS the only choice. As bad as things might be who else is even close to doing the correct thing with regards to politics, economics, freedom, rule of law. Anything. Don't forget that Chirac is what EUnuchstan considers to be a conservative.

Who is covering our backside? Nancy? Al? Jimmy?
Go ahead. Bend over and let Allah drive.

Perhaps we have earned and deserve being dhimmi-iferous.

:(

#94 The Bruce

Like Johnson, Bush never served in the military, having evaded the draft during a time of war(in Johnson's case, it was WWII).

You still a lying moron sweetie?

@81 gymnast

How about this "we" shit from someone who is
not an american Citizen.
Coming into this country and abusing the office
of the United States with slanderous posts.

SUN CITY CENTER, Florida (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Tuesday his administration viewed diplomacy as the first and most important option in dealing with the standoff over Iran's nuclear program.

OMG! I am shocked I tell you! Wow!

You mean he didn't come right out and tell those old blue haired ladies that the United States could and would stomp Irans ass if and when necessary?

/must be more of a diplomat than I thought!

Me: Like Johnson, Bush never served in the military, having evaded the draft during a time of war(in Johnson's case, it was WWII).

Sarah the Dope: You still a lying moron sweetie?

Joining the Air National Guard so you can stay home and not have to fly your plane in Vietnam for four years is just that--draft evasion. When there's a war going on, and you hide out in Texas flying planes on weekends, you're evading the draft.

#101 American Infidel

Are you registered to vote?

Sarah D

Oh no jehu, the fingers are in my ears to keep out your irrational screeching.

You mean anyone that does not walk lock-step with you reaganite, ann et al is irrational? Most of us just echo the dismay that this very blog covers each and every day, while you and Julie Andrews dance and sing on hills of flowers.

All about how we are winning or something, or we are such good guys the outcome is assured. While not a defeatist, neither am I so delusional and self-righteouss, like you, I just believe right will triumph. 3,000 people in the WTC probably believed that to the very end.

You are something of an inverted shrieker, you just shriek the opposite like a little kid (we will win, we will win, we will win).

And your eagerness to jump any poster that does not subscribe to your little cozy belief system belies your constant prattling and assurances of how outcomes are assured.

Now, how about let's hear your plan for stopping the imminent implosion of the PA, or for stopping them from being funded by like minded terroristic regimes.

Why would I care if they implode? It's not like we would face the danger of them becoming...terrorists or something?

There is delusion of grandeur and there is also just plain old delusion because one so PASSIONATELY believes that the fevered thoughts are true. It would be amusing if it was not so sad.

So the Palestinian Sqatters on Jewish Lands have "voted" by a majority to have Islamofacist Hamas, the Iranian by proxy Jew-killers as their Political spokesmen--and they are as a direct consequence of sanctions imposed suffering economic collapse --meanwhile the U.S. and others are hoping to strangle the economy of terrorist financing Iran by U.N. sanctions to deter the lunatics in power from attaining nuclear capability--and now thru total capitulation the financial plight of the Terrorist supporting miscreants is being defused by funneling funds directly to the Palestinian "People" by-passing Hamas!--brilliant eh!

President Bush today on Iran's nuclear weapons program: "I believe we can accomplish this through diplomacy."

This is not standard boilerplate.

To keep saying publicly that diplomacy will accomplish a nuclear disarming of Iran borders on lunacy in a world where diplomacy has never accomplished anything regarding Iran.

#104 Bordm

I do believe that her answer was "no". A registered voter would not equivocate.

The BDS is strong on this thread.

Can't tell a trolls without a scorecard.

If the objective of the terrorists is to demoralize the American people and cause them to loose faith in their institutions and leadership it appears as they are succeeding (with a lot of help from the left). Here anyway.

"Game over man, game over"

Genghis Kahn for POTUS!

Look at those flowers in that ad!

Shades of Jonestown --

One giant koolaide drinking Murder/Suicide camp.

"You are something of an inverted shrieker, you just shriek the opposite like a little kid (we will win, we will win, we will win)."

Well, I dare say she represents more back-bone that those who shriek lose, lose, lose, dhimmi, dhimmi, dhimmi, day after day.

Don't you want us to win?

#111 easy

"Genghis Kahn for POTUS!"

Har!

Yeah all you rubes, vote for Dems, that'll show'em! Cut yer noses off while yer at it too.
Someone's agenda pinko slip is sure enuff showing now.

#107 American Infidel

Your tap dancing answered the question. You are not a citizen. Thank you for playing, you may now go back into your own little perverse universe. Don’t forget to change the batteries in your favorite toy.

102 Bruce

Members of the Texas Air National Guard were called up for Vietnam
You made the claim that none were so lets see a link.

A point of view, I can't know if my reading is correct but Bush will continue to clarfify his position.

The Bruce: (Bush said) "diplomacy" is going to be the only way to deal with Iran.

Bush: "I believe we can accomplish this through diplomacy."

Those are two different statements. The Bruce posits that Bush made a statement of absolute intent not to use force or sanctions, whereas Bush actually voices a belief that diplomacy will stop Iran.

It is vital that while Ahmadenijad wants dominance or conflict Bush wants Ahmadenijad to climb down ASAP. Nevertheless diplomacy is not working and Bush's remark does indeed give rise to The Bruce's interpretation that Bush means to skirt the issue. Given Iran's extreme aggresiveness, dishonesty and refusal to cooperate, and given the high level of concern and the growing threat, it is unlikely that Bush really does intend to skirt the issue. The sentiment that it is preferable not to leap in before engaging in a peace-dialogue is admirable, but Iran's nuclear program is unthinkable and what Bush ought to be saying is that one way or another Iran will not continue long under its present disgusting regime and a new regime will not inherit nuclear technology. Perhaps Bush's statement simply means the ball is in Ahmadenijad's court, although it is well past time.

Now for some good news you won't see much of anywhere else...
The Boom Goes On

101 AI I think some people are confused when they speak of the 2006 and 2008 elections and how they relate to the executive branch of our government.

The 2006 elections are all legislative at the national level, which, as you know is representatives and senators. That's why anger at the president (and I have plenty and have written about that) doesn't necessarily translate into anger at my congresscritters. In fact, it's a real source of cognitive dissonance for me to look at congress as a bulwark against the worst impulses of our chief executive, who I used to support wholeheartedly.

Yes, much of the base is pissed off, as am I, with the president and his handling of immigration and some other issues. BUT presidential coattails aren't always decisive, and should rarely be decisive in terms of legislative elections.

That's why I said people should do some research on their individual representatives. If they suck, please do whatever is possible to get them voted out of office. But if they are decent (Sen. Coburn comes to mind right off the top of my head) support them! The moonbats will be circling like vultures in the sky to try to knock off any actual decent and effective patriots in office. The good guys need our help.

rightymouse 114

Well, I dare say she reaganite represents more back-bone that those who shriek lose, lose, lose, dhimmi, dhimmi, dhimmi, day after day.

Guess what? I am not AI...nice try though.

#110 rightymouse

I figured that out. See my response to Chicken Little at #117.

#102 The Bruce

Joining the Air National Guard so you can stay home and not have to fly your plane in Vietnam for four years is just that--draft evasion.

My dad was a pilot during WW2. Never heard a shot fired in anger. Those admirals just weren't taking advice from a 23 year pilot on where he wanted to go and what he wanted to do

@102

Being a member of the National Guard is not evading military service. There were National Guard serving in Viet Nam. You do disrespect to
every member of the National Guard with that statement, considering the majority of those in
Iraq and Afghanistan are National Guard.

# 107, American Infidel, and earlier, such as #103. You have provided an adequate Prima Fascia case that you do not have the foggiest ideal of what a Conservative ideology is. You have gone further into ornitholism than perhaps you know.

Clankbird. You do know what a clankbird is do you not? You seem to think you know everything else. Sometimes you even give good link. But your agenda makes up for it.

#122 jehu

"Guess what? I am not AI...nice try though."

LOL! Thank you.

And I was talking about Sarah's post. Not Reaganite. Silly man.

"LOL...Wooo hoooo, assumptions be flying tonight..."

I'm a registered voter. I don't think it is amusing or cutesy to play games about that. You either are or are not. It's a simple question begging a simple answer.

#125 American Infidel

Wooo hoooo, assumptions be flying tonight

There you go, now that's the perfect description of you, on any subject.

ESABATM

The original author got the words wrong.

It goes like this,
The fourth, the fifth
the minor fall, the major lift.

The baffled,
Hallelujah....

#128 gymnast

Clankbird. Has a nice ring to it. LOL!

#127 quark2
As well as the National Guard Memorial at Normandy. 29th Division landed on June 6th. A national Guard unit

"Dhimmi EL PRESIDENTE Bush"

Spoken like a good bumper-sticker liberal moonbat. Bravo!

C'mon,the money is for medical equipment and the rest goes to unicef.

What kind of rational being are we if we deny this aid?

We know this won't free up a dime for weapons because we know the palis don't give a rat's ass about their children and would rather buy bombs than medicine so they aren't spending anything on medicine and children's care now.

Well, as I don't enjoy whack a mole, I'm off to bed.

#134 American Infidel

LOL, Ooooooh, it brought out the bold everyone run and hide.

You have been measured, tried, tested, and found wanting. You are mentally unstable, that is the truth you are facing and refusing to accept...

137 ts I'm not exactly convinced the good folks at the UN give a rat's ass about the good of the palestinian women and children either. Otherwise I'd think some of those billions over the years would have gone to desalinization and irrigation of land, and establishment of schools that actually taught the 3 r's instead of Jew hatred.

@134

And you know this because you have walked
in his shoes.

#140 amyc

No doubt the UN is useless.

I just don't like the idea of using children as weapons,be it by splodeydope or withholding medicine to get the adults to act like adults.

It just ain't right.

I see the daily LGF pissing contest is in full swing.

I refuse to participate,it has become boring.

Goodnight all.

Say it with me - "Money is fungible"

This is what they call "diplomacy" - all the wolves agreeing about what's for dinner.

The identification of the species "Clankbird", comes from a proud military tradition of being able to see through a cloud of bullshit which normal radar is unable to penetrate.

The Clankbird is a sub species of the snot nosed shitbird. The Clankbird Fly in ever decreasing concentric circles while loudly screeching. As the circles grow ever smaller and the screeching grows ever louder the epochal moment grows ever nearer. At last the incredible screeching is interrupted by the sound of the cataclysmic CLANK as the bird flies up it's own asshole and is never seen again.

As our resident clankbird flys and Flays ever faster and screaches ever louder, it fails to realize that it's end is near. It is about to clank.

#145 gymnast

BTW, if someone sits at the side of G-d as she claims she wishes in her universe, will it be a passionate clank or a dull thud?

Hey relax you guys. The congress will step forward and cut funding for this.

Won't they?

No. The current legislation pending Palestinian Anti-Terrorism Act of 2006 (not the bill that Michael Kennedy was going to vote on at 1 am) cuts off only direct funding to the PA. It does not limit "humanitarian aid."

Interestingly, recently had lunch with TN sentate candidate Harold Ford Jr., who said that the current proposal to give even humanitarian aid did not make much sense. You see he understands that money is fungible.

@145 gymnast

Seems to my memory once upon a time long ago
we had another one of those ClankBirds occupying Lfg space. We all watched in wonder as it flew
up its own asshole. :)

For a dhimmi the President sure has killed a lot of jihadis by his actions.

I wonder what our non-resident has done other that shreik.

rightymouse 129

And I was talking about Sarah's post. Not Reaganite. Silly man.

What's the difference? I mean in their posts?

#150 jehu

What's the difference? I mean in their posts?

Was I posting? You brought me into this.

I see what your apologies mean.

#148 quark2

Seems to me, IIRC, we've had a number of those clanky thingies fly up their butts in the past. Awesome sight. :)

Sarah D

For a dhimmi the President sure has killed a lot of jihadis by his actions.

He has also got a lot of boys needlessly killed by playing politics on the battlefield in Iraq, like not finishing off Falujah (sp?) the first time.

I am no Bush basher and want him to succeed in the worst way! But I weary of his muddled mucking around, with the border issue, and with constant mistakes in Iraq. He is not even able to articulate his arguments.

This inability to constructively criticise our own side reminds me of something...O, yeah moonbats, that will go shrieking off a cliff following any perverse leader they elect. I hope our side is better than that.

#105 jehu

You mean anyone that does not walk lock-step with you reaganite, ann et al is irrational? Most of us just echo the dismay that this very blog covers each and every day, while you and Julie Andrews dance and sing on hills of flowers.

I am not in "lockstep" jehu. That said, I am also cognizant of history and I am not one to wail at every single thing that the government does that I either don't agree with or understand.

neither am I so delusional and self-righteouss, like you, I just believe right will triumph. 3,000 people in the WTC probably believed that to the very end.

No, they didn't jehu, most died not even knowing the face of the enemy. I do.

Why would I care if they implode? It's not like we would face the danger of them becoming...terrorists or something?

How simple. Tell me jehu, are you so sure that allowing them to implode will have no negative effect on our allies? Our friends? Do you really believe, in this day and age, after years of negotiations and diplomacy, that the US would simply allow them to implode?

You say allow them to starve? I'm asking.

#153 jehu

He has also got a lot of boys needlessly killed by playing politics on the battlefield in Iraq, like not finishing off Falujah (sp?) the first time.

The president is running the war? He tells the generals what to do?

Politics are a part of the battlefield, give me an example when they weren't.

@153 jehu

Which of those 'boys' were uselessly lost in Iraq due to playing politics, you have a list?

If they don't want to suffer deprivation, perhaps they should not elect avowed terroristic murderers as their leaders.

Just a thought.

reaganite

Was I posting? You brought me into this.

I see what your apologies mean.

It is a public site; I owe you nothing but honesty, and only agree with you about 50% of the time. My apologies from past behavior still stand, but you represent a core of thinking that Sarah D and others emulate and gather round, I disagree with that thinking, nearly as much as I do with AI’s.

Some of you post exactly the same stuff time after time, especially you, and that is to attack anyone that criticizes this admin. They need honest criticism, not for those of us that voted for them and want them to succeed, to become turtles. AI has become a convenience to label all dissent as "shriekers."

That is unfortunate because this admin and Bush in particular are out of touch with their base (that means me!) He needs to fire all his effing handlers and be the man he was on that pile of rubble in NYC. Not this caricature of a leader he has become. Good God...calling the Minutemen "Vigilantes," he lost me and tens of thousands like me. He can win us back by being who he was. It is that simple. I am not a Democrat...”party above all.”

AI
Do you consider yourself a Betrayed Conservative?

#155 ploome hineni

I think that's an excellent idea ploome, but it won't keep their "government" running unfortunately.

Like in Iraq, we the people are bolstering the new government. Without us there is no chance it would survive.

quark2

Which of those 'boys' were uselessly lost in Iraq due to playing politics, you have a list?

Every Marine that died taking Falujah the second time. It should only have taken once and one certain cleric that killed some of our boys should have been dead. He is now a factor in the new government in Iraq, and in fact help delay that new government by weeks if not months...more boys dead!

The U.S. will be paying Palestinian bills?

My God, our State Department is either made up of total fools and idiots or it's changed sides.

Question: what do we care if the Palestinians have a civil war or not?

Aren't Hamas and Fatah already in charge? Accordingly, how could the government that emerges be any worse? Besides if they are both busy fighting each other they won't have time to fight anyone else.

Where is the downside for us?

"AI has become a convenience to label all dissent as "shriekers."

Not all dissent is worthy of attention or action. We ignore liberals and their shrieking for the same reason. We can hear them, but what they want most is people to act on their cap-locked voices and kiss their ass.

Do you think George Clooney is worth your time of day?

Sarah D

The president is running the war? He tells the generals what to do?

Politics are a part of the battlefield, give me an example when they weren't.

Your blind devoution to Bush while from good motives makes your over-extend your argument.

Bush is the Commander in Chief. He most decidely runs the war.

And politics have been put aside many times.

D-Day, Hiroshima, Sherman's march to Atlanta.

If we had leaders that ignored the media and risked something of their own (political lives) then maybe we would win decisively. His father did the same thing...withdrew from killing the Republican Guard on the Highway of death. Why? Cause Colin Powel fretted that we looked bad to the world, too brutal, to effective.

So we get a second Iraq war. Any inaction or indecisiveness by leaders of the magnitude of modern American Presidents will always result in deaths (huge numbers) just by the default of evil rushing to fill a vacumn. Clinton does not act in Rwanda? Hundreds of thousands dead! It is a principle that every American President should have burned into their brian. Instead they seem to fear the media and public opinion more.

#158 ploome hineni

We sent a lot of aid to those countries, and not in the form of our UN dues.

to which of 'our allies' do you refer?

Israel ploome. While I have no doubt that many Israelis would like to wake up tomorrow to find the Palis simply gone, I have not heard them talking about starving them to death. I also worry about the influence that say, Iran would have if for some reason it took over funding to provide the necessities.

166 rightymouse

Not all dissent is worthy of attention or action. We ignore liberals and their shrieking for the same reason. We can hear them, but what they want most is people to act on their cap-locked voices and kiss their ass.

Do you think George Clooney is worth your time of day?

Then again should Europe have listened to Churchill? If you cannot discern the difference between defeatism, or BDS, and honest question and criticism, I cannot help you. If we cannot, or do not criticise those we love, then we do not really love them at all, we just love an image, like a little kid.

I love George Bush, and pray for him daily. I want him to be great, but that will take personal risk, and he has retreated right now...feeling beset and bewildered.

In some ways I do not blame him, the hatred toward him is unprecedented, probably in human history. But never the less, he has to take the hit and LEAD!

#146, rightymouse. A resounding CLANK, followed by silence. For evermore.

#167 jehu

And politics have been put aside many times.

D-Day, Hiroshima, Sherman's march to Atlanta.

You are comparing Falluja to D-day, Hiroshima, and Sherman's march to Atlanta?

Whatever.

@163 jehu

You can apply that sentiment to every war we've been in. What about the horrific mistakes made during WWII? And you're wrong, politics are never put aside during a war, they are always a factor.

#169 jehu

"I love George Bush, and pray for him daily. I want him to be great, but that will take personal risk, and he has retreated right now...feeling beset and bewildered. [and you know this how?]

In some ways I do not blame him, the hatred toward him is unprecedented, probably in human history. But never the less, he has to take the hit and LEAD!"

Then be part of the solution, not the problem.

Sarah D 154

How simple. Tell me jehu, are you so sure that allowing them to implode will have no negative effect on our allies? Our friends? Do you really believe, in this day and age, after years of negotiations and diplomacy, that the US would simply allow them to implode?

At some point the world needs to stop diapering their asses. If they stoped teaching their kids to hate Jews, stopped blowing up pizza parlors. In a few years they could freely work, live in Israel.

You say allow them to starve? I'm asking.

Say by some chance we cannot grow or get food here in Calif, the only place I can get it is from Mexico. But me and my fellow San Diegan's hate Mexicans, and regularly go into Tijuana and blow up kids, moms, anyone. Our school books are filled with hate for Mexicans etc. And finally Mexico decides no more food for San Diegans until they stop blowing us up and hating us. Would you feel sorry for me and my racist San Diegans? Sometimes our actions ought to bring consequences that we cannot escape, unless we alter our behavior.

#170 gymnast

"A resounding CLANK, followed by silence. For evermore."

Ahhhhhh......

Now it is time for me to hit the sack. See ya later!

jehu

I love George Bush, and pray for him daily. I want him to be great, but that will take personal risk, and he has retreated right now...feeling beset and bewildered.

More like...outrage of the last 50 years! Time to gather 2 million to Boston and dump some tea into the harbor. Enough!

I'm confused here..
Which statement of yours is intended to support him in tough times?

rightymouse 173

...feeling beset and bewildered. [and you know this how?]

Ok, he's feeling and doing great! That is why he nominated his nanny-lawyer for the Supreme Court (retreat to the familar, the comfortable). That is why he has less press conferences than any modern President.

That is why he could see one of the biggest Hurricanes in history heading to New Orleans, and sort of dithered around for a day. Acting like the MSM are not vultures looking for any oppourtunity to attack. After a while if someone acts clueless, time after time...chances are, they are clueless, kind of like your questions to me right now.

Either that or like a little kid you are fighting back your own disallusionment.

#177 jehu

"Either that or like a little kid you are fighting back your own disallusionment."

Or you are just really a barking moonbat masquerading as a concerned conservative.

"That is why he could see one of the biggest Hurricanes in history heading to New Orleans, and sort of dithered around for a day."

Yep..moonbat meme. Have a nice night.

Village Idiot Appr

I'm confused here..

Well said

Which statement of yours is intended to support him in tough times?

You mean I cannot critisize or disagree? Just swallow any pap this admin offers? You go ahead, I will pass. I can both support and root for our side, and critisize OBVIOUS screw-ups.

Sometimes I do that with my bosses here at work, they don't like it either but they have come to respect what I say. (Because they know I want the company to succeed) Is everyone a little kid looking for Daddie's approval here? Sheesh!

#167 jehu

During this month Sherman conceived the idea that Georgia might be politically isolated from the other States in the Confederacy.

I haven't agreed with President Bush on all things, but he is a man of principle and he has the courage of his convictions. He is not everything to all people but he is far ahead of whoever is in second place.
Besides, he is a decent man and that means a lot to me.
Name anyone who is electable that will do better.

rightymouse 178

Yep..moonbat meme. Have a nice night.

Yeah you comfort yourself with that pacifier.

Missed the link

Sherman in Georgia!

jehu

You mean I cannot critisize or disagree? Just swallow any pap this admin offers? You go ahead, I will pass. I can both support and root for our side, and critisize OBVIOUS screw-ups.

I don't think "criticize" means what you think it does.

The President's actions during Katrina?

Your liberal BDS is starting to show.
Let the mask fall fully away.

Sorry guys..
Too many klown kars full of Kos Kiddies on here tonight for me.
Night all

#182 jehu

I don't think she needs one jehu, it's painfully obvious.

Tell me - and please remember that I live in hurricane country - what does the president have to do with hurricane relief?

Sarah D 171

You are comparing Falluja to D-day, Hiroshima, and Sherman's march to Atlanta?

What should it be compared too? A new type of war where we don't want to hurt the enemy too much? Once boots are on the ground, I am only for them, and for winning! Any politician who thinks otherwise does not have my support, I don't care what he has done in the past.

Bush has gotten boys killed that should not have been killed by considering politics first, and not our boys...period. You can pretend he has not done this all you want but fact are facts.

I don't want to hear anything from some of you about how objective you are in comparison to Democrats and such. You exhibit the same partisian blindness as them. You can comfort yourselves with the fact it is not to the same degree...yet.

@182 jehu

So now Bush is also master of the weather that affects the US? We all saw that hurricane headed in the approximate direction of NO.
He had no way of stopping it, than you did.
And to have put materials and personnel in the path of that killer storm is ridiculous to even consider.
Something you should apply to yourself, when
a catastrophe of that size happens you are on your own for at least several days. No matter
where you are, or who you are. Bush doesn't owe any individual 24/7 protection from every
act of nature. That is just insane to even
contemplate.

@186 jehu
And what are you doing, posting recriminations
because we don't agree with you that we are
partisan?

It was a hostage situation. The Pals held guns to their own heads and said, "Make with the danegeld, or the idiots get it!"

Shameful, shameful, if this goes forward.

Jehu. How are you not some Sophist son of a bitch? What do you cite as the circumstances of the first battle of fallujah? What do you know of the circumstances that led to decisions that you were not privy to? Your opinion reminds me of a drunk in a bar when it comes to the realities of operations decisions.

#186 jehu

Bush has gotten boys killed that should not have been killed by considering politics first, and not our boys...period. You can pretend he has not done this all you want but fact are facts

Fact check. Do you have a link?

Sarah D 185

Tell me - and please remember that I live in hurricane country - what does the president have to do with hurricane relief?

As head of the Federal government he is over FEMA. And yes the greatest burden lies with the local and state government, we all know that. We also know that with the MSM looking to destroy Bush over anything, that they would blame Bush, NOT Nagin or Blanco.

I knew this, how come Bush did not? I guess I must be smarter than Bush. And do you think with the Liberal-educated, Oprah-watching public they would blame Nagin? Blanco?

I remember on the second day when the pictures were coming in of the people at the Superdome, etc, and Bush was (stupidly) still at his ranch, that this was real trouble. I could see the spin winding up like the Hurricane did in the gulf.

It is this aspect I criticise about Bush. He acts like it is 1930 or 1940, and he can go to his ranch and cut brush etc. Meanwhile the MSM with huge resources are set to destroy him.

Why he cannot see this, and you stupidly want to play federalism versus republic with me is beyond me.

We all know the way it is SUPPOSED to be. But it is not that way is it? A modern American President HAS to communicate and has to be seen as in charge, even if he is not actually doing anything but flying over the site and tsk, tsking.

I do not want it to be this way, but Americans (about 40%) have the attention span of gnats, and believe only the pictures on their screens, and the emoting of some leader, concerned all about them!

That is reality or you cannot govern this country anymore. And that is what has happened to Bush. His approval is so low, not even Republican Senators or Congressmen feel any fear to cross him.

Sorry the truth is contrary to the emotions and little-kid views of so many on this blog now. It is why you will not see many more over 1000 threads. Any honest criticism like I have offered, and how many idiots are proclaiming me a moonbat with BDS?

Most of you know better. But like little kids throw a tantrum and call names.

The Bruce:

I am curious about your nom de plume; I presume it has something to do with Robert the Bruce, the first King of Scotland. I presume you have some sort of idealogical or familial relationship to the Bruce to cause you to want to use his moniker.

If so, I find that distressing. As someone who is a direct descendant of Robert the Bruce, with mother's maiden name carrying the name, I find you to be a silly no-nothing jackass. Finding out I am related to you, even as remotely as through a common ancestor who died in the 1400's, would make me somewhat nauseous. So, please, do me a favor. if you are related to Robert the Bruce, just lie to me, and say you're not. After all, it won't be new to you - you've been lying in this thread all along, haven't you?

Gee wizz jehu

Any honest criticism like I have offered, and how many idiots are proclaiming me a moonbat with BDS?

Just go ahead and sign me up as the first one.
Makes it real simple for you.

Is it a ground for impeachment? Now our government directly violates the law and provides directly funding official terror group
using tax payer money.

Jehu, I'm sorry to say this, but you are an idiot.

A well meaning one I'm sure, and I do think that you have conviction in what you are attempting to say. But, in the end you are not very bright.

I do hope that you never run for office, because you would think that you had to respond to every twist and turn of the MSM and any detractors. You would be totally unable to lead.

I wish you luck in your quest for Presidential perfection.

Man, you folks are way panties in a bunch tonite. i am watching Juan Hernandez say how great it is that Bush is working with mexico spying on the minutemen, come on now, you have to admit this is bullshit! Bush needs to listen to the folks who voted for him, me twice, and i will criticize him all i want, you folks just jump on someone, and dont let go, then start calling names. I love President Bush, but he is f'kin up!

@192 jehu

He should have been there the NEXT day with baby wipes and clean diapers to wipe everybodies ass. Shame him to hell for being on his ranch, just how disgusting!
/moonbatism
What the hell do you think he could have done other than make decisions he can make from anywhere? He should have put on hip waders and
walked through all that flood water and hauled in the dead bodies? I guess that's all his fault too as he is major cook/bottlewasher/diaperchanger of the country.
Your argument is less than lame jehu.

#194 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Where is the list? I want to sign it also.

raidergirl

do you want to lead a revolution and overthrow the current government?

#199 Bordm

Where is the list? I want to sign it also.

Ask jehu.
It's his list.

Sarah D 196

Yeah its going so swimingly your's and Bush's way. Hope you and Bush can hold onto Congress. That strong silent stuff is really doing it for the Pubs. But I am the moron. Bush needs to control the feed to the media, not be pounded by them at their leisure, if that is going through their hoops, then it is part of the job. Seems Reagan had it figured out.

Now all you babies go back to your inverse DU echo chamber. At least most of you are literate.

quark2 198

Obviously you were advising Bush, it has gone really well.

Wee Fury 191

Here it is, enjoy

www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1 9373

Hate to go back on Topic but:

Hamas wary as West opens aid tap

GAZA (Reuters) - Hamas signaled on Wednesday it still had problems accepting Western demands to recognize Israel and renounce violence, hours after international peace brokers agreed to channel direct aid to the Palestinians.

The so-called Quartet of international mediators -- the United States, Russia, the European Union and the United Nations -- decided on Tuesday to send direct aid for a three-month trial period through what they termed an international mechanism.

Hamas, a militant Islamist group sworn to Israel's destruction, took control of the Palestinian Authority in March after defeating President Mahmoud Abbas's long-dominant Fatah movement in parliamentary elections.

This triggered a foreign aid freeze on the new Hamas-led government as major donor nations and Israel demanded the militant group renounce violence, recognize the Jewish state's right to exist and embrace existing peace deals.

"The Quartet have conditions. They aim to push the Palestinian government to make concessions that harm (Palestinian) rights and red lines and give the (Israeli) occupation legitimacy," said Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh.

Haniyeh, speaking to reporters in Gaza, did not elaborate but Palestinian Authority spokesman Ghazi Hamad said a statement would be issued later on Wednesday in response to the Quartet's decision.
[Link: go.reuters.com...]

#200 Village Idiot's Apprentice, No, I will vote out the elites in Washington, dems and repubs alike, I will vote for people who want to close our border, we are in a war on terror, and i sure want to boot out folks who give money to the savage assholes of hamas!

Well its been fun, remember Mother's day try and relate to her like you did when you were six years old.

#197 raidergirl

It's not about the dissent, it's about using out and out lies and BS, to try to justify a point of view. That and goal posts on wheels.

"The Quartet have conditions. They aim to push the Palestinian government to make concessions that harm (Palestinian) rights and red lines and give the (Israeli) occupation legitimacy," said Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh.

NO! Say it ain't so! From what I've been reading here the money was going to come with a freakin' note card attached: "Have fun boys!".

Good Grief.

raidergirl

#200 Village Idiot's Apprentice, No, I will vote out the elites in Washington, dems and repubs alike, I will vote for people who want to close our border, we are in a war on terror, and i sure want to boot out folks who give money to the savage assholes of hamas!

There is the difference between you and ole jehu.
He claims to love and support the President, and wants to hold a Boston tea party at the same time.
I'm just calling BS, that's all.
Constructive criticism is not the same as bashing the President for bogus reasons.

jehu speaks from both sides of his mouth.

Have a nice night

Sarah D 196

Jehu, I'm sorry to say this, but you are an idiot.

Coming from you I consider that a compliment. I don't do nuance, but neither do I think in one dimension like you and your pals here.

I mean if Clinton with no character at all could manipulate the media and the American public into voting for him twice, think what a good man like Bush could do if he actually understood what he is facing? But after 6 years, I give him small chance of figuring it out now. Just like you.

@203 jehu

Hope you enjoy letting others change your diaper for you when it's full of shit.
G'nite.

#202 jehu

Seems Reagan had it figured out.

Say what? Where the hell were you during the Reagan years? He was blasted every day by the press and the LLL's. The only difference now is they have had more practice at their bashing.

/Thank goodness we now have the internet, to call them on their BS.

#208 Bordm, please do tell! This is what I was talking about, they , Mexico, are getting info from our border guards, where our Minutemen are stationed, what do you disagree with? Bush is sending hamas three months of aid, where do you disagree?

#211 jehu

Go talk to your Mommy jehu. She'll make you feel better.

Village missing an Idiot

He claims to love and support the President, and wants to hold a Boston tea party at the same time.
I'm just calling BS, that's all.
Constructive criticism is not the same as bashing the President for bogus reasons.

A Boston tea party would be a symbolic gesture to ALL politicians that our patience is running out. What do you think it means?

And I call it like I see it on Bush, I have given it a lot of time, maybe you think telling your elected officials they are doing fine is support, have at it. But then that would make you a liberal, wouldn't it? Like the people in Boston that will keep electing Kennedy, even knowing he is a drunk and killed a girl. Or the moonbat, crazed liberal voters of D.C. that kept electing Marion Berry over and over.

jehu speaks from both sides of his mouth.

I guess it seems that way to people with one ear.

#209 Sarah D. -Really! If ever I saw a group that was absolutely hell bent on shooting themselves collectively in the foot, it's Hamas and the pali's.

O.K., Village Idiots Apprentice, so i guess its goodnight, O.K. , keep heads in sand and kiss ass goodby. my brother, as you all know is heading to iraq, i want to know if hes heading to a good fight, or a capitulation! i want people to fight for my good country!

Bordm

Say what? Where the hell were you during the Reagan years? He was blasted every day by the press and the LLL's. The only difference now is they have had more practice at their bashing.

I watched the whole thing and Reagan snookered the press and humiliated them time and again. He also could communicate his ideas. It was why he was called the "Great Communicator." Remember?

But now all the babies here are upset. I think more and more TFK has your numbers.

#217 realwest

If ever I saw a group that was absolutely hell bent on shooting themselves collectively in the foot, it's Hamas and the pali's.

You got that right. They have listened to their own (arab) press for too long. If they won't take responsibility for themselves, they are doomed.

Sarah D

Go talk to your Mommy jehu. She'll make you feel better.

Not really, she reminds me of you, sort of arrogant and full of opinion and impressed by Macho bullshit.

Jehu misses his Mommy I see.

Keep fearing, you feed right into the enemy propaganda jehu. Hope you're proud.

#219, Jehu. I asked you, how are not some Sophist son of a bitch. All you have done is confirm your parentage.

jehu

you assume too much.
You assume that I think that the President has never made a mistake.

The big difference between you and I is that you do not uinderstand the difference between constructive criticism and bashing.

A Boston tea party would be a symbolic gesture to ALL politicians that our patience is running out. What do you think it means?

Sorry there. I confused you with a man of action instead of symbols.

Most of the people I hang with consider the Boston Tea Party anything but a symbol.
Silly me.

Good night jehu.
If you're in a relationship with a significant other, I hope you support them through criticism better then the President you claim to love.

#214 raidergirl

I didn't say I disagreed with you. I'm all for securing the border by any and all means. I'm also for cutting of all forms of aid to hamas

Man, you folks are way panties in a bunch tonite.

That is the statement I was responding to. Perhaps I did not make myself clear that it was meant to be an explanation of the goings on tonight

You are not a shrieker, moby, or uninformed twit as far as I have seen. ;-)
My apologies if we got cross ways

Oh shit, I think the smugness cloud of George Clooney just blew through Little Green Footballs! Guys, I love all your opinions, Yet dont agree sometimes. I am just really pissed off about this whole Bush/Mexico trading info on our American citzens, The Minutemen!

#225 Bordm, Thanks, I am just a little bent out of shape today, two really bad stories on the same day,I guess we are all used to this by now! I have always supported President Bush,I have a picture of him on my fridge, and have fought many a battle over him, he has me angry, however !

#227 raidergirl
I've been raising cain about illegals since the early 70's. I thought that Reagan's amnesty was wrong, because I knew Congress would not follow through with the rest of his plan to take control of the situation. I just glad this stuff is finally seeing the light of day.

#228 Bordm, Amen to that!:)

#230 ploome hineni

alreadydone

Hezbualla is a shia/Iran gang

and,Hamas and Iran

Um, yes they are ploome, but Iran doesn't fund the PA goverment. Not yet anyway.

#232 ploome hineni

They are heavy with government. Ain't it always so? :-P

Ploomie,

Well, some. Why?

Actually, I take that back. Too many folks here have told me I'm not! LOL!

I suggested voting out the idiots that continuously act in their own personal, corrupt interests over those of the American people, & specifically fund TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS...& if that fails....yes, REVOLUTION.

Yes, this term, Revolution, is often humorously overused by the insane leftist crowd...but the concept itself is valid. It is only a matter of intent & purpose. When our government is "in bed" with our enemies (Mexico, & the TERRORIST organization of HAMAS, & Saudi Arabia) and makes decisions that are completely against the interests of the United States & the American People...(& most likely actually against the laws of the United States..."aiding Terrorist organizations") I do not find it the crazy to suggest that a Revolution of sorts is necessary...the easist way of accomplishing this "Revolution" or Change would be to vote out all of the incumbants who have become to comfortable & corrupt. If however that is not effective...then other means might be necessary....

I could be wrong (I'm NOT) but I belive the act of "revolution" is specifically encouraged in a silly American document called the Declaration of Independence, under circumstances similar to what we are experiencing today.

But hey, continue to attack me, call me names, etc., we will all suffer from your complatency.

& if it makes you feel better: Fine, you all are sooooo much smarter than I, & soooooo right....I'm such a kos kid/mooonbat/nutjob for suggesting such silly things as demanding change when the system is broken!

where the US has apparently caved in to the pressure to fund the same Palestinian people who voted for this

It would be more difficult to think of a time when the US hasn't been sucking d*ck for dollars, and providing financial aid to ungrateful assholes.

I'm going to go back to reading my book now, and keep telling myself how goddamned f*cking brilliant GWB is.

Not.

The only reason the "Palestinians" are in danger of "starving to death" (nice scare quotes, huh?) is that their thugocracies have taken all the money they've collected from outsiders and spent it on weapons. (And we now see from the recent elections that the "Palestinians" want more of the thugs.) If any of that money had been used to develop agriculture, build industries, create jobs, and do all those other things that civilized people do, they wouldn't have to keep asking for more money. And as long as they keep collecting more money, they won't do anything to produce it.

Besides, they even destroy already existing means of production, as they did with the greenhouses left behind in Gaza.

So if the "Palestinians" have chosen as their representatives people who destroy means of production and channel humanitarian aid away from people who need it, let them live with what they voted for.