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Ahmadinejad to Europe: Support Iranian Nukes or "Suffer the Consequences"

Sat, May 27, 2006 at 9:42:12 pm PDT

In an interview with Germany’s Der Spiegel, Iranian madman Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned Europe to support Iran’s nuclear program or “suffer the consequences.”

And he denied the Holocaust once again.

And Germany is apparently not going to stop him from visiting the World Cup if he chooses.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned Europe that it should support his country’s nuclear program or “suffer the consequences.”

In an interview to be published in the German Der Spiegel on Sunday, Ahmadinejad also expressed his doubt regarding the Holocaust, saying that even if it had occurred, the Jewish state should have been established in Europe, not in Palestine.

“I only accept something as the truth if I am truly convinced of it,” he asserted.

The Iranian president, who previously stated his intention to travel to Germany for the World Cup games that will take place there this summer, said that he had not yet decided on the matter. Iran is one of the 32 nations participating in the world-wide sporting event.

“My decision depends on a lot of different things,” Ahmadinejad said.

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1 dmjboose  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:43:15pm

let us nuke you, or we'll nuke you

2 Bubble Girl  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:43:40pm

This guy is giving Rasputin a run for his money...

3 Bubble Girl  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:44:03pm

Or "damned if you.. damned if you don't"

4 Orbit Rain  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:44:57pm
or “suffer the consequences.”

yeah...not too worried, you're going down AJ...so keep spouting off like a madman, makes it so much easier to keep this murmer of your insanity circulating through America.

5 Earth2moonbat  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:46:46pm

I think that's what JF'nK called "nuance".

6 Cornholio  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:46:58pm
And Germany is apparently not going to stop him from visiting the World Cup if he chooses.

Let's hope Ahmadinejad is seated next to the rioting soccer hooligans. This could solve all our problems ;-)

7 Ziggy'sGrammy  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:47:50pm

Ok, let him go to Germany and get him while he is there. I think that we should kidnap him and hold him for 444 days. Seems like fair retribution to me.

What a ignorant moron. Of course, muslims aren't allowed to think anything that isn't in their vile book, so why would he beleive 6 million dead wasn't a holocaust? If mohammed had had the capability, I am sure he would have killed many more.

Lord, I hate the fact that, by their behavior, these people have turned me into a bigot.

ZG

8 atlasshrugged  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:49:19pm

this is interesting because I think he'll hit Europe first (not Israel)

9 jogging on empty  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:49:31pm

Hmm. Establish your state in the region that tried to decimate you.

No.

How about we maintain our state in the region that foolishly thinks they still can.

10 PETN Sandwich  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:50:18pm

Funny, Ahmadinejad looks just like one of the embassy hostage takers, except that he is only 4'10" tall.

Did intel find that he WAS NOT standing on a stack of phone books in those twenty year old photos, or did they find it was he and they are keeping the trump card for later?

11 neverquit  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:50:39pm

Related -

Lebanon guerillas fire rockets into Israel

JERUSALEM - Lebanese guerrillas fired a barrage of rockets into northern Israel early Sunday, wounding an Israeli soldier at a military base, the army said.

Several rockets landed inside Israel, military officials said. The soldier's injuries were described as light to moderate.

The army said it held Lebanon responsible for the attack but there was no immediate reaction. Israel has responded to similar attacks in the past with air strikes on targets inside Lebanon.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility. The guerrilla group Hezbollah possesses thousands of Katyushas and periodically fires the rockets at Israeli targets, though Palestinian guerrilla groups have also carried out such attacks in the past.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

12 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:50:45pm
13 dmjboose  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:51:03pm

the reuters version:

BERLIN, May 27 (Reuters) - Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was quoted on Saturday as saying European nations should stand by his country in the dispute over its nuclear programme or suffer damages.


that way, iran doesn't sound as threatening!

14 leap_frog  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:52:28pm

Interesting point AS, just finished reading this.

[Link: www.adnki.com...]

"Our youths who are ready for martyrdom will be more effective in striking the enemy than any missiles system," Abbasi allegedly vowed to the would-be suicide bombers at the cemetery Behesht Zahra in Tehran on Thursday night.
15 Earth2moonbat  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:52:40pm

#8 atlasshrugged

You're probably right. Israel's well fortified, and will smack him back so hard he'll end up spending the next 1000 years down in the well with his Mahdi buddy.

16 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:56:09pm
17 Frank_Mtl  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:56:54pm

Decidedly, this diminutive little runt is suffering from a big time napoleonic complex.

18 blackpajamas  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:59:27pm

Ahmadinejad also expressed his doubt regarding the Holocaust

Ohhh... ok, this explains everything!

Mahdman Imajihad isn't a genocidal maniac in training /part-time Barbara Boxer impersonator, he's just a skeeeptic.

Can't fault a man for developing a healthy nuclear stockpile of skepticism, right?

19 solomonpanting  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:59:48pm
And Germany is apparently not going to stop him from visiting the World Cup if he chooses.

One dream scene would be 50,000 fans chanting his name and then collectively mooning him.

20 zombie  Sat, May 27, 2006 7:59:49pm

Iran and Israel decide to hold peace talks to forestall upcoming hostilities. There are to be two meetings: the first in Tehran, the second in Jerusalem.

Olmert travels to Tehran for the first meeting, and is ushered into the deluxe guest suite at the presidential palace. He goes to the bathroom, makes use of the toilet, but can't find any toilet paper. He then notices a button on the wall. A sign in several languages above the button says, "Do not press under any circumstances!" But, desperate, he presses the button anyway. A small hidden door opens and out comes a roll of toilet paper with the Talmud printed on it.

Later, Ahmadinejad goes to Jerusalem for the second meeting. He too is ushered into the deluxe guest suite, he too makes use of the facilities, and he too can find no toilet paper. He looks on the wall and --yup -- there's a button with a sign above it in many languages that says, "Do not press under any circumstances!"

Ahmadinejad thinks to himself, "Ah ha! if I press the button, a roll of toilet paper with the Koran printed on it will emerge from the wall. This is exactly the kind of insulting provocation I need to start an international incident and scuttle the talks!"

So he eagerly presses the button. But, to his mystification, nothing comes out of the wall. So he presses it again. Again nothing comes out. So he presses it a third time -- still, nothing. Mystified, Ahmadinejad thinks, "I guess the Jews are not as technologically advanced as the Muslims!"

So he wipes with his hand, and goes off to the opening reception. Olmert greets him and says, quietly, "Mr. Ahmadinejad, I have a confession: when I was in Tehran, I pushed the forbidden button behind the toilet. I saw the toilet paper with the Talmud printed on it."

"So," gloated Ahmadinejad, "what did you think of it?"

"Not so bad," said Olmert. "Very soft on the tuchas. But I have a question for you. Did you try to press the button behind the toilet in our guest suite?"

"Why, yes I did," said Ahmadinejad.

Olmert's eyes's widened. "Oh no!"

"It's alright," said Ahmadinejad. "Nothing came out of the wall, so I didn't see the Koran toilet paper. No matter how hard I tried, nothing came out."

Olmert still seemed horrified. "How many times did you press it?"

Ahmadinejad: "Three times, but still -- nothing."

Olmert: "You call three nuclear bombs on Tehran nothing?"

21 RadicalRon  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:00:34pm

Who surrenders first, Francistan or der Fatherland?

22 Stuck in california  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:01:21pm

Keep talking, asshat, and Snow White will come along and kiss your ass goodbye...heh...

Snow White...http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/

23 x-ray  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:01:42pm

The well of the 12th imam has apperently run dry, if this is the best it can puke out as it's world leader.

24 Earth2moonbat  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:04:12pm

19 solomonpanting

One dream scene would be 50,000 fans chanting his name and then collectively mooning him.

I suppose that's about the best we could expect from today's lily-livered Germans. I could think of a better outcome, but not from them.

25 fox3  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:04:40pm

OT: Here is the link to (some of?) a petition I would sign on the immigration issue.

[Link: www.sondrak.com...]

The link to the petition itself has not been reachable all day here, I suspect it's popularity is causing the site to be really hit long and hard(?).

Sure makes more sense than what the sellout crowd in DC is proposing...

No idea how much good it will do, but if it will help at all, I'll sure sign it.

26 Spiny Norman  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:07:06pm

Did someone say diminutive little runt with a Napoleonic complex?

27 Earth2moonbat  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:08:33pm

Oh, jeez...queue up the "short people" mp3...

28 dmjboose  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:09:05pm

15, 8
interesting. I don't know whether he's more likely to attack us, Israel, or europe. On the one hand, we are the great satan, along with israel. On the other hand, Europe is a weaker target. It really depends on how calculating Mad Jad is. If he's absolutely insane, as he seems to be, then he'll attack Israel because they're closer, and part of the great satan conglomerate, not to mention jews. On the other hand, he could be thinking that by attacking europe they'll roll over, and we won't help them.

29 canadianally  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:09:20pm

Guns N' Roses on LIVE now at [Link: music.aol.com...]

Wow, their back and the Brazilians are loving it!

30 Grandma  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:09:33pm

#20, zombie,

I relish your comments, especially this one, and enjoy your site tremendously. Keep at it.

31 jwm  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:11:01pm

Support our nuclear arms program or suffer the consequences... We want one zillion, jillion dollars! OR ELSE!

Someone call Austin Powers.

JWM

32 Frank_Mtl  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:11:34pm

#26 Spiny Norman
Precisely ! LOL

33 gargantuan fuchsia squashballs  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:14:17pm

#9

That was awesome.

34 Stuck in california  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:14:27pm

I found the Dinerjackets homepage...

[Link: www.killerdwarfs.com...]

35 mistermir  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:14:59pm

Zombie,

Great post - I'd like to quote you.
Is it original?

36 zombie  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:19:47pm
#35 mistermir
Zombie,
Great post - I'd like to quote you.
Is it original?

Partially. The basic structure of the joke is old, but it originally had a different setting and different protagonists. I re-wrote it and updated it to reflect contemporary realities.

Feel free to quote as you see fit!

37 Jeff S.  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:20:13pm

I would think that when you deny the Holocaust while in Germany, someone might come up to you and say, "Hey man, trust us, it happened. We were there."

But no.

38 Overkill of ASE  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:22:41pm

Uh oh, Ahmed's going to threaten people, I'm so scared.

He knows he can't do anything drastic. A hearty laugh would be appropriate before getting back to the table.

39 mistermir  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:24:08pm

Zombie,

It's already been forwarded.
Keep up the good work ;)

40 zombie  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:24:22pm
#35 mistermir

Oh, one thing I forgot to mention: the original joke is in German, not English. Not sure if there ever was an English version, which is why you may have never heard of it. I had it translated, and then revamped it.

41 Orson Buggy  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:24:45pm

Dinnerjacket is nothing more than a mouth. He jabbers on and lets the world know what the mullahs want to be known.

Hear that mahmoud? You ain't shit! Your religious leaders make the rules and you have to tow the line. You are only a mouth.

Suck it!

42 dmjboose  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:30:22pm

i swear, this guy gets me every time.

43 canadianally  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:30:23pm

Oops...the Rock in Rio concert with Guns N' Roses is actually in Portugal.

Live webcast at [Link: music.aol.com...]

44 SpartanWoman  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:31:27pm

I think there's more to gain by attacking europe. They are less likely to retaliate than either the US or Israel. Probably they will fight back by boldly converting Notre Dame to a mosque. And by conquering europe they will have access to better weapons (french nukes)

We should have attacked that country yesterday.

45 St. Pancake  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:34:00pm

37 Jeff S.
Holocaust comments spark outrage

Germany: Iranian president's Holocaust remarks 'shocking and unacceptable'
Actually, Merkel has done a pretty good job of this with the Iranians.

46 hershel  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:34:10pm

Orson Buggy:

"Suck it"

Apparently, he doesn't even have to kneel!

47 Sobieski  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:35:10pm

Now we're just waiting for the leftists to tell us that "he doesn't mean it" or "he just likes to talk big" or "just give him France and he'll be satisfied" or "just let him drop a few a nukes over US, you won't feel a thing, promise."

48 redshirt  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:40:13pm

Why are they even allowed to play in the world cup? They should be treated like South Africa during apartheid and universally shunned. Deny them soccer, and the populace might just rise up!

49 Orson Buggy  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:41:59pm

#47 Sobieski

I guaran-fuckin-T you that if anynukes go off in the US, Iran is toast. Too bad, because I think a lot of Iranians are no different than New Yorkers.

I mean a lot of them can't help it if someone from Arkansas is their senator, has a big mouth and tells lies and shit all the time.

50 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:43:46pm
51 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:45:18pm

Translation:

If you don't allow Iran to have nuclear bomb with which Iran will murder you, Iran will obtain a nuclear bomb anyway and murder you.

Got that?

Good.

52 saltmarsh  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:51:47pm

Ahmadinejad should have ate his wheaties.

/feeling all warm and fuzzy all over.

53 Orson Buggy  Sat, May 27, 2006 8:59:55pm

#50 savage_nation

She was first lady (to put it kindly) of Arkansas with slick Willie.

I'd vote for Kucinich before I'd vote for that twit.

54 Orson Buggy  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:01:10pm

#52 saltmarsh

Wheaties are haram. They show girls with their tennis shorts on on the box. Get with the program!

55 Spiny Norman  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:02:30pm
Iranian madman Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned Europe to support Iran’s nuclear program or “suffer the consequences.”

Europe (as Daffy Duck) to Ahmedinnerjacket:

Consequences, schmonsequences, as long as we're rich.
56 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:03:17pm
57 Cornholio  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:06:39pm

#18 blackpajamas

Mahdman Imajihad isn't a genocidal maniac in training /part-time Barbara Boxer impersonator

I never have seen Barbara Boxer and Ahmadinejad in the same place at the same time.

58 Orson Buggy  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:08:02pm

#56 savage_nation

Her origins? Hell + handbasket = hillary.

Do the math man!

59 restitutor orbis  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:08:08pm

The Mossad should put a bullet in his face. It looks like Israel will have to handle this one sooner or later, so why not nip the problem in the bud?

Also, is Israel in the World Cup? And if so, are the [bigoted word]s allowed to play *gasp* JEWS?

I'd like to see the Israelis crush the delusion of muslim superiority...once again. Kind of like that black runner that blew away the "Aryan Supermen" in the '36 olympics

60 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:08:40pm
61 redshirt  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:09:19pm

#55 Spiny Norman
Thuffering Thuccotash, you are right. Europe IS Daffy Duck. The image is perfect.
Would that make Ahmediniwhatever Yosemite Sam? And The UN, of course, Elmer Fudd!

63 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:10:14pm
64 saltmarsh  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:10:42pm

:are you down there?
:go away.
:so, you are down there!
:I refuse to talk to an idiot.
:but I'm here to bring you out.
:piss off you dumbass, I've been down here for centuries and I'm not coming out for a sawed off limp wristed pantywaist.
:bu..bu..but I have an aura.. people can't blink when I talk.
:crawl back in bed with your camel, you're just a bad dream.
:bu..bu..but I am the Ahmadinejad, I have nukes, you must come out.
:and arafish had a wife and 12 boys, get a grip.
:bu..bu..but I am the greatest ruler of all time, I am the ruler of the great persian kingdom. I am the anointed one. I am the is is.
:twot, ever heard of the shah of iran.
:who's he?

65 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:11:28pm
66 redshirt  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:14:02pm

#59 restitutor orbis
Actually MEXICO plays Iran June 11. VIVA MEXICO!
If they whip Iran, I'll let a million more illegals in happily!

67 Orson Buggy  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:14:53pm

#65 savage_nation

I'd cast him as Wile E. Coyote.

Wait till he plays with the ACME atomic bomb. LOL

MEEP MEEP!

68 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:16:15pm
69 Sobieski  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:42:28pm

#49 Orson Buggy: Yes, sure, I was just kidding with the last two examples of what they might say. Too bad though, for if they really would advocate letting Iran nuke US perhaps people would see that they are not pro-civilization.

70 Dewie  Sat, May 27, 2006 9:59:40pm

Ahmadinejad ,"little man complex", is like an adolescent male running around with his first erection...threatening everyone with it.

Please nurse whack it with a spoon!

IMHO

71 Spiny Norman  Sat, May 27, 2006 10:09:35pm

#70 Dewie

Please nurse whack it with a spoon!

LMAO!

72 Macker  Sat, May 27, 2006 10:09:41pm

#44 SpartanWoman

So if they attack Europe first, which city will get it?

73 Evan from NZ  Sat, May 27, 2006 10:52:01pm
the Jewish state should have been established in Europe, not in Palestine.

As if the Jews have no history in the Middle East and Israel owes its existence solely to the Holocaust (despite what Palestinian propagandists like Ghada Karmi would have the world believe...)

74 GregInSeattle  Sat, May 27, 2006 11:01:00pm

Bush's speech at West Point sounded kinda bold, kinda like we would go after states that support terrorists. Hope he means it!

75 filter  Sat, May 27, 2006 11:04:59pm

#72 Macker, my guess: Copenhagen [the cartoons!], London [Blair] or Amsterdam [Theo van Gogh/Ayaan Hirsi Ali].

Also: Denmark, England and the Netherlands are the allies of America.

And knowing Ahmadinejad and his tiny pencil-pr*ck problem, he'll attack the smaller countries first.

So that'll be the Danes, or us, Dutch.

76 Spiritualized  Sat, May 27, 2006 11:13:23pm
Also, is Israel in the World Cup? And if so, are the Muslims allowed to play *gasp* JEWS?

No, they just missed out on qualifying. Any other year they probably would've had enough points.

77 MartinG  Sat, May 27, 2006 11:58:14pm
And Germany is apparently not going to stop him from visiting the World Cup if he chooses.

A head of state can't be legally denied entry to the country that is hosting the World Cup if his national soccer team is participating.

79 MartinG  Sun, May 28, 2006 12:09:09am

Sorry, I messed up the link.

80 shug  Sun, May 28, 2006 1:07:28am

The dhimmis in europe can go here to draft their response

81 SpiritOf1683  Sun, May 28, 2006 2:58:29am

Whats the consequences? Carpet-bombing Iran and tasking out the mullahs?

Now that is a consequence worth suffering.

82 SpiritOf1683  Sun, May 28, 2006 3:00:11am

Oops. Should have read "taking out the mullahs". Fat-fingering problems again.

83 EE  Sun, May 28, 2006 3:12:51am

Ahmadinejad takes the measure of Europe, and decides that they are wimps that can easily be bullied. So he threatens Europe, demanding that they not interfere in his quest for nuclear weapons.

After he has nuclear weapons, his threats will really begin to be very grave. And Europe will be within the range of his ballistic missiles.

Ahmadinejad does not have small dreams; he has enormous ones, including the coming of the 12th imam, the Mahdi. And he believes that he himself will usher in the coming of the Mahdi. To do this, he may need to bring chaos to the world, according to his Hojjatieh beliefs.

Such a person cannot be appeased, because his ultimate demands are too vast for any sane person to go along with his full list of demands.

The Europeans already have had the experience of dealing with Hitler. Unfortunately, at Munich, they made the mistake of thinking that Hitler's ambitions could be appeased by giving him a piece of Czechoslavakia -- which only whetted his appetite.

Giving Ahmadinejad a pass on acquiring nuclear weapons would not only whet Ahmadinejad's appetite, it would give him the capability of wreaking havoc in the world.

I hope that the Europeans have learned something since they dealt with Hitler so calamitously at Munich.

84 FrogMarch  Sun, May 28, 2006 3:22:38am

Just in: Moby thinks Ahmadinejad makes a good point.

85 BabbaZee  Sun, May 28, 2006 3:35:39am

[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]
Infidel!
I am standing on a stool against you!
Suffer the consequences!
ULULULLULULU~

86 FrogMarch  Sun, May 28, 2006 3:39:31am

BabbaZee

OMG – he's a crazy little pip-squeak!
(propeller-beanie be upon him)

87 BabbaZee  Sun, May 28, 2006 3:41:01am

MM-Hmmm...On top of everything else now we know he has short man syndrome too...
GAH

88 The Drizzle  Sun, May 28, 2006 3:43:40am

I'm sure he meant "suffer the consequences" in a peaceful religion kind of way.

89 mingjaiyo  Sun, May 28, 2006 4:07:26am

Let him go to the W.C.The world can be a dangerous place...never tell when an "accident" may happen,especially in such a volitile environment as a W.C. soccer event...all those out of control "hooligans" types,you know...

90 neoconundrum  Sun, May 28, 2006 4:34:57am

The question is: Why is it that only Jews are at the center of attention?"

Gee Mr. Ahmadinejad, considering your daily rants, perhaps we should ask YOU that question.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

91 ibrodsky  Sun, May 28, 2006 4:36:11am

#88 The Drizzle

I'm sure he meant "suffer the consequences" in a peaceful religion kind of way.

Islam is a profoundly evil ideology that needs to be either thoroughly reformed or eradicated.

92 Shaken  Sun, May 28, 2006 4:40:41am

I must admit a certain amount of envy that Mr. DinnerJacket is going to Germany, country that's always been high on my list of places to visit.

In the spirit of diplomacy and enhancing foreign relations, I hope he doesn't mind if I enjoy Germany vicariously through his visit, and have taken the trouble to put together this little list of other highlights to tour right after the World Cup:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

93 republic  Sun, May 28, 2006 4:54:10am

The Iranian President recently said that he has 80,000 "martyrs" ready to be human bombs, if Iran is attacked.

And yet, the U.N. is going to meet in NY on July 4th, to finalize plans for a world wide gun ban?

hmmm

Kofi Annan obviously feels that homicide bombers are OK, but that firearms in the hands of law abiding citizens is wrong!

homicide bombers vs guns of law abiding citizens?

You figure out what's going on, I have for quites some time.

For what it's worth, I, and my wife have sent all the letters concerning the issue, that the NRA has, in regards to the U.N. meeting in NY on the 4th of July, to finalize their plans for a "Worldwide Ban of Guns", to John Bolton, Kofi Annan, and some guy from Sri Lanka.

Remember folks, Kofi Annan has no problem whatsoever with Iran using 80,000 homicide bombers, but he has great concern for the 100 million law abiding US gunowners!

I wonder why?
/sarc

94 Edouard  Sun, May 28, 2006 4:59:54am

#83 EE

Good post and right on the money. I foresee dark times in a world with a nuclear Iran that bullies the world around (or worse) and profliferates weapons to terrorists.

Unfortunately the Europeans are like late 30s Keystone Kops as they stumble around and fail utterly to do anything effective to slow Mad Iran's headlong rush.

Fair enough, the Europeans had the shot they wanted to take towards Iran, and the U.S. more or less had to let them take it for the sake of restoring some measure of international unity on the Iran question.

However, it's quite clear that the U.S. is yet again the world's last, best, and only hope to stand up usefully to Iran. Thank God John "Give Iran Nuclear Technology" Kerry is not president.

95 Jack Reacher  Sun, May 28, 2006 5:13:02am
“I only accept something as the truth if I am truly convinced of it,”

Or, as a toddler says--with hands over ears--"Lalalalalalalalalalala! I can't hear you!"

96 tigger2005  Sun, May 28, 2006 5:18:29am

Maybe we should hold the next Summer Olympics in Iran. I mean, Germany got'em in 1936.

97 Timbre  Sun, May 28, 2006 6:02:51am

I am not "truly convinced" Iranian president
Mahmoud Ahmadinejihad is a human being. I believe he is a space alien from Moronistan in the Globular Cluster.

98 bfried  Sun, May 28, 2006 6:06:43am

Did you know that Hitler was "Vertically Challenged" as well?

99 Mark1957  Sun, May 28, 2006 6:23:37am

#98:

Depends on how you define "vertically challenged. A check of various sources on the Web indicates Hitler was anywhere from 5' 8" to 5' 11". An Austrian military physical (Hitler actually served in a Bavarian regiment between 1914-1918) indicated that Hitler was measured at 173cm (about 5' 8").

In short, Hitler was actually about average height by the standards of his time. Hitler likely did shrink a bit in height as he got older, but this is a natural part of the aging process.

100 JEGjr  Sun, May 28, 2006 6:35:55am
101 bluegrass boy  Sun, May 28, 2006 6:47:23am

I think we can thank our old friend djimmy carter for the problems over there right now...if he had any balls at all we would not have left our folks hostage for a year and these psycho weenies with beards wouldnt believe we are a bunch of punks to be pushed around now...im ashamed that i live in the same state as carter...thankfully we still have brave men and women around who will do what is required to keep us free...we should all thank God for our military and leaders and pray for them to have the strength to do what is going to ultimately be required here...this sawed off little bastard has to go...its time dont ya think?

102 niallster  Sun, May 28, 2006 6:59:33am

Denying the Holocaust is a criminal offence in both Germany and Austria and you don't need to do it in either country you just need to do it and then go there.

You should be arrested the moment you set foot on German or Austrian or soil or if setting foot in any other EU country immediately arrested on the issuance of an EU arrest warrant and transferred to the country that issued it.

David Irvine went to Austria and ended up in the slammer.

Will they arrest this clown if he attends the world cup?

Will they fuck.

Stick a fork in EU we're done.

103 JEGjr  Sun, May 28, 2006 7:12:11am

Yeh, this guy doubts the holocaust happened because hey - no one could hate the jews so much that they'd want to wipe them off the map!

104 filter  Sun, May 28, 2006 7:19:26am

The rat from Iran has one thing right.
Germany - and the Netherlands - are suffering from guilt-feelings ever since WW11.

I think that is why there are so many islam-appeassers in both countries.
We're afraid of being called bigoted.
Muslim organisations are very cleverly playing that card as well.
Comparing the jewish people during the thirties with the muslims right now.

People believe that.
They can't see that it's the muslims who are the new Nazi's.
Jewish people, homo-sexuals and women are being beaten up, sometimes murdered, by muslims.
And muslims, like the Nazi's, believe that they are the übermenschen.

I wish that Germany - and my country; the Netherlands - would get rid of the guilt and get their heads out of the sand.

[NB: I, personally, have no feelings of guilt. My family weren't war heroes, but they did distribute illegal, underground newspapers [Het Parool] and they did help getting jewish people to America.
They even had a family in their home.
If only for 6 days.
That family - the Olieslagers - are still living happily in the USA.]

105 niallster  Sun, May 28, 2006 7:31:09am

Filter,

For reasons I won't go in to I recently had to spend some time amongst the Amsterdam media elite.

These were people who were personal friends and colleagues of Theo Van Gogh for 20+ years.

They explain how they understand why his murderer did it and how awful racists the Dutch all are BEFORE they ever express sorrow for his death. Like it has to be put in context.

Stick a fork in us son the EU is done.

(from an Englishman who's great uncle an airman was sheltered and re-repatriated by the Dutch resistance)

106 filter  Sun, May 28, 2006 7:37:18am

#105, niallster,

I know.
I puke on them.

They're the same traitors that bullied Ayaan Hirsi Ali away from our country.

They're the 'PC' lefties.

[Used to be a leftie myself, but can't anymore]

Thank you, Uncle of niallster.

107 KSK  Sun, May 28, 2006 8:36:36am

@Marin G

I think you misunderstood the idea of "legally".
It may be true that the German government signed in its contract with FIFA that it would allow every head of state of a participating team into the country...

But

What is FIFA going to do if Germany does NOT allow a holocaust denier into the country.

Sue? Good luck!

I'll make an exception if Ahmadidumbnut lands ar Ramstein, with a shuttle waiting to take him to... err... safety.

108 MartinG  Sun, May 28, 2006 8:52:30am
@Marin G

I think you misunderstood the idea of "legally".
It may be true that the German government signed in its contract with FIFA that it would allow every head of state of a participating team into the country...

But

What is FIFA going to do if Germany does NOT allow a holocaust denier into the country.

Sue? Good luck!

I'll make an exception if Ahmadidumbnut lands ar Ramstein, with a shuttle waiting to take him to... err... safety.

I like your way of thinking. :)

109 niallster  Sun, May 28, 2006 9:12:23am

We really need a German constitutional lawyer on this issue if one should be a member.

In UK there is no Constitution and the government effectively is the law so a contract signed by the UK government with FIFA would pretty much be law subject to certain EU overrides such as an appeal to the European courts but Holocaust denial is not illegal in UK.

The situation in German as far as my knowledge goes is very different there is a Constitution and no government can override it without changing it which is difficult.

So whilst the Germans can certainly guarantee to let in heads of state I don't think they can exclude them from German law so it may be unlawful for the Germans to NOT prosecute him if you see what I mean.

Not that that will stop them bending over and taking one up the rear end in the name of multi-culturalism. Hell he'll probably go to Dachau and claim it was clearly faked by Zionists and they'll still kiss his ass.

Stick a fork in EU we're done.

110 niallster  Sun, May 28, 2006 9:15:32am

We really need a German constitutional lawyer on this issue if one should be a member.

In UK there is no Constitution and the government effectively is the law so a contract signed by the UK government with FIFA would pretty much be law subject to certain EU overrides such as an appeal to the European courts but Holocaust denial is not illegal in UK.

The situation in German as far as my knowledge goes is very different there is a Constitution and no government can override it without changing it which is difficult.

So whilst the Germans can certainly guarantee to let in heads of state I don't think they can exclude them from German law so it may be unlawful for the Germans to NOT prosecute him if you see what I mean.

Not that that will stop them bending over and taking one up the rear end in the name of multi-culturalism. Hell he'll probably go to Dachau and claim it was clearly faked by Zionists and they'll still kiss his ass.

Stick a fork in EU we're done.

111 KSK  Sun, May 28, 2006 9:37:35am

If Germany admits the Iranian president, he would enjoy diplomatic immunity.

This actually makes sense because it prevents visiting heads of state to be subject to frivolous lawsuits.

President Bush will visit Germany this year and you can be sure that some activists (and that includes US activists) will try to stage some legal harrassment.

But if Ahmadijihadmyass is declared Persona Non Grata, he can be denied entry. Should he manage to enter anyway (quite impossibloe), he would NOT enjoy immunity.

The same is true for ambassadors. You only enjoy immunity in the country you have been accredited for.

FIFA may have all sorts of regulations and agreements with Germany but if Germany doesn't want the Iranian president FIFA can pound sand.

If everything fails, choose Israeli referees for Iran's matches. Iran will not play. Problem solved.

112 hurricane_jimmy  Sun, May 28, 2006 2:28:41pm

Ahmadinejad is a little runt. It's funny to watch the sawed-off half pint strutting around like he's important.

How long before the Iranian people take matters into their own hands and flush that little shrimp down the toilet?

113 mattm  Sun, May 28, 2006 6:30:01pm
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned Europe that it should support his country’s nuclear program or “suffer the consequences.”

If the program is only for peaceful purposes then Iran could do nothing militarly to hurt Europe. I think he just admitted that the Iran Nuke program is all military.


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