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Reuters Death Threat Update 7

Wed, May 31, 2006 at 9:59:07 am PDT

In our secret base deep underground, our Zionist lizardoid ultrasuperpowers tell us that the Reuters IP address 192.165.213.18 has hit our site 134 times since midnight, and it looks like there may even be one or two Reuters people online right now.

We’d like to extend an invitation to them: please feel free to use our contact form (at the bottom of the left sidebar, right here) to let us know why you’re suddenly so interested in LGF. We’ll be happy to print your explanation(s) and/or threats. Thanks!

For the full story: A Death Threat from Reuters (Bumped).

UPDATE at 5/31/06 10:27:43 am:

LGF Zionist minion Blue Chip has a few appropriate questions for our Reuters visitors:

What’s up with your deranged coworker?
Is it common practice for employees of your company to post death threats on blogs?
Think it reflects negatively on you and your coworkers?
Anyone want to start a “not in my name” (anti death threats) group in your office?
Think anyone will join it?
Think the bosses will identify the author of the death threat and fire him/her?
Think they should (ID and or fire)?
In an age where cartoons can spark riots and murder all over the world, do you think death threats should be taken seriously?
BTW: Did you guys publish the cartoons?
If not, why not?
How would you respond if someone made an anonymous death threat against you?

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1 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:00:10am

Hi, Reuters terrorist sympathizers! KMA!

2 thepoguemahone  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:00:15am

c'mon Reuters - tell us

3 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:02:33am

Al-Reuters-hu akbar!

4 hans ze beeman  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:02:58am

Will this end in a full-blown Reutersgate?

5 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:03:00am

And your bloody camel, too.

6 blueroom127  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:05:27am

MSM Press smear in 5..4..3..2..

They'll attack LGF as an effective way to pass over their own wrongdoings, insecurities and fallibility.

7 Fiery Red XIII  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:05:31am

We are not alone! They're watching us! Well...we see you too! LOL...sry, trying for some comedic relief.

Red

8 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:07:26am

#6 blueroom127

You're a little late with that; check out the Al-Guardian thread.

9 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:08:06am

Hi Reuters...Are you wearing masks as you sit at your desk?....I mean most muslims wear a mask when they make a death threat.

10 mj  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:08:40am

I wonder if there is some internal memo being floated around over at Reuters or if this incident came up at morning prayers held over the the Saudi-financed mosque that most of Reuter's employees appear to attend.

11 JEGjr  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:10:13am

There is NO WAY one guy can this kinda stuff! Well, maybe Ethan Hunt... but even he's got "behind-the-scenes" help!

12 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:10:21am

How do you moon over the internet?

OO ?

(I) ?

(l)?

13 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:10:31am

Hi Al-Reuters,

Quite the conundrum on your hands, eh?

Cowards.

Why not be men about this, quit your mewling, and identify yourselves?

14 apotheosis  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:12:03am

Maybe they're doing background research for an essay-format, in-depth denunciation of their former terrorist support, and detailed reformulation of Reuters style guide policies that allows them to openly refer to a murdering pack of animals by their proper designators.

Or maybe they're just enjoying poking a hornets' nest with sticks.

15 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:12:30am

My bet is that the link is being shuffled around via email and that more and more Reuters employees are learning about it. Meanwhile execs wring their hands as to "what next" while monitoring for fallout. They figure it will die having thrown a "suspended non-news division employee" bone.

Fact is that a violent threat was made - one that likely breaks laws in the UK as well as California. Reuters is in no position to take it upon itself to adjudicate the matter as a personnel action - Charles has a right to know who threatened him.

Isn't Reuters all about reporting the truth?

16 Isobella  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:12:37am

12 Earth2moonbat

You moon over the internet like this....

(_*_)

17 doppelganglander  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:12:46am

#11 JEGjr: Xenu?

18 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:12:57am

I bet they're still amazed at all the bung jokes we came up with in the very first thread. Probably why they keep going back to that post.

19 distwalker  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:13:54am

Hey Reuters, are you part of a well-funded jihadi machine?

20 W-lover  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:14:23am

Reuters is visiting? But I'm fresh out of tea!

21 JAT  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:14:42am

Lance rules - Reuters sucks!

(OK still pumped about the story on Armstrong)

22 Catttt  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:14:53am

Gosh, I'm glad I'm telecomuting today, Charles, because loud cackling might disturb my office-mates.

LOL!

When I stop cackling, maybe I'll stop to wonder if these particular Islamofascists are as technologically clueless as they sound, whether this is crafty misdirection to make us think they really are this ignorant, or whether, perhaps, they are blinded to the reality of the modern world by their deeply held prejudices.

23 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:15:36am

#16 Isobella

Or maybe (_/*_) ?

24 Fenway_Nation  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:15:45am

Hello Reuters visitors!

OOoooooooo! I'm a scary Zionist!

/I think I just found my haloween costume

25 ShyGuy  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:15:47am

I'm from Reuters and you can't catch me!

Nyeh! Nyeh! Nyeh! Nyeh! Nyeh!

:p

26 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:16:45am

Random thought: You suppose the idiots from Reuters reading this have heard of Mary Mapes?

27 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:16:48am

Hello to all the Rueters people in London.


Let em check the models to see what they say about the powerful ocean storm that could affect Europe...

28 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:18:33am

Earth 2 Moonbat @ 12:

BWAHAHAHAHAHA~

29 nobs  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:19:06am

From their only comment.
Taz:
Zionist bloggers are two a penny scum. Who the hell would want to take them seriously? Cheerleaders for mother Israel they are pathetic. I hope Inyat goes from strength to strength.

[Link: www.mpacuk.org...]

30 mickthemick  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:19:32am

Wow! Wait until I tell my mom I was monitored by Reuters! Will they print our picture?

31 W-lover  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:19:34am

I could pour some wine for our guests... Wait! Are these Reuters folk islamofacists? Better put away the bacon-wrapped water chestnuts...

32 Silhouette  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:19:34am

Reuters, feel free to click on the links under "Resources" on your left.

33 Blue Chip  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:20:09am

To our visitors from Reuters:

A few questions:

What’s up with your deranged coworker?

Is it common practice for employees of your company to post death threats on blogs?

Think it reflects negatively on you and your coworkers?

Anyone want to start a “not in my name” (anti death threats) group in your office?

Think anyone will join it?

Think the bosses will identify the author of the death threat and fire him/her?

Think they should (ID and or fire)?

In an age where cartoons can spark riots and murder all over the world, do you think death threats should be taken seriously?

BTW: Did you guys publish the cartoons?

If not, why not?

How would you respond if someone made an anonymous death threat against you?

I await your answers…..

34 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:20:18am

Charles,

Reuters probably has dozens of their lads perusing LGF for the most egregious, unrepresentative posts they can find - hence all the hits. Instead of addressing the issue, they'll work to dismiss LGF as a hatemonger site.

35 chilltheham  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:20:18am

Rotten
Europeans
Used
To
Eating
Rat
Smegma

36 Mike C.  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:20:38am

I suspect the Reuters folks aren't registered and can't post. Not that I think they would anyway.

37 Crimsonfisted  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:21:18am

#22 Catttt

When I stop cackling, maybe I'll stop to wonder if these particular Islamofascists are as technologically clueless as they sound, whether this is crafty misdirection to make us think they really are this ignorant, or whether, perhaps, they are blinded to the reality of the modern world by their deeply held prejudices.

Oh! Oh! I know this one!

they are blinded to the reality of the modern world by their deeply held prejudices

What did I win?

38 Isobella  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:21:24am

Has Reuters provided Charles with the name of the employee that threatened him? It seems like they would be required to do so, no?

If I threatened someone using my company's resources I would be fired immediately, not suspended. My bet is if Reuters were to cover such a scandal, they would editorialize the incident in such a way that would expect the person to be fired, not suspended.

39 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:22:27am

Beware the tentacular, iron-vise like grip of the Hemi-Powered, Zionist-Occupied, Rovian Mind Meld Machinery,
The Chosen Hemi-Heads,
The Intergalactic Federation of Zionist Mischief Makers
and the
Part-Time Nuts of Zion!
All Hail The Meshugganuts!

[Link: cdbaby.com...]

40 GregInSeattle  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:22:35am

I take all orders from my Jewish Sister in Law! Long live the Super-Secret Zionist Conspiracy!

41 big L  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:22:47am

Grod forbid that Reuters ever use the word
"terrorist" in an article. That woruld be taking sides,as their format book apparently explains.
Bu making death threats, and then checking back to see if it worked...well, that is okay.
Reuters is (or are) the elites.

/(to me- scum of the earth.)

42 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:23:36am

#26 JammieWearingFool

Random thought: You suppose the idiots from Reuters reading this have heard of Mary Mapes?

Hell - they haven't even heard of Potemkin. Their reporting on the Middle East and Islamism is absent of any critical thought that might offend multi-cultural impulses.

They operate an electronic "potemkin village" called a wire service - one that excuses Islamic hatred on the basis of cultural identity and one that condemns western counter action as merely reactionary impulses of un-enlightened oafs.

43 restitutor orbis  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:23:40am

OT Here's a story of the continued "butchery of Iraqi civilians" by our troops. Boy the MSM just eats this stuff up.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]


The story describes the incident as what I would call justifiable, but the headline tells a whole different story.


And so it begins.........

44 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:23:50am

#36 Mike C.

I don't know about that, we got a new batch of trolls last open.

45 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:24:10am
46 Isobella  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:24:28am

23 Earth2moonbat

Heehee, those cheeks look a little like boobs.

47 macofromoc  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:25:04am

Hey Rooters (_*_) --- you've been Bunged.

Looks and smells French

48 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:25:10am

#39 BabbaZee

All Hail The Meshugganuts!

Cue deranged cackling laughter......

49 Silhouette  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:25:15am

I've said it before, if I knew one of my co-workers had just wished for the day "pigs would have their throats cut" I'd be more worried about that than the person who exposed the death threat.

Both for my own safety around such a monster and for the fact that this person is out there defending my point of view.

50 Geepers  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:25:18am

Hello Reuters employees.

How's it feel knowing that your co-workers think, and then go to the trouble to voice their opinion:

I look forward to the day when you pigs get your throats cut....

Do you agree or disagree that "pigs" need to get their throats cut? (Or possibly just blow to pieces on a train.)

51 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:25:59am

(_*_)

52 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:26:07am

Looks like that possible sub-tropical system (won't be fully tropical, not over cool 22º waters) stays near the Azores, while high pressure provides decent weather to the UK.

Does look like a cool front drops in about Monday, doesn't it. Ahead of the cool front, high temps this week should reach low 20s.
That seems awfully cool by Texas standards (our normal high is now about 31º), but I suspect that is considered balmy by English standards.

Of course, the mid and upper 20s experienced in the Northeast yesterday, will only be upper teens the Northeast US, at least those parts of the Northeast within about 100 km of the ocean, today, as a weak backfoor front has turned winds off the still chilly Atlantic.

53 effoff  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:26:52am

Much like the terrorist insurgents in Iraq, these Al-Reuters pigs are just as cowardly. Lurk in the shadows and run away and hide when confronted. May they sleep in pig slop for their remaining days.

54 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:26:52am

47 macofromoc

Hey Rooters (_*_) --- you've been Bunged.

Something tells me they're roto-Reutering their Bungholes.....

55 jcm  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:27:03am

A hack writer from Reuters couldn't handle the logic and intellectual rigor required around here. They either would melt down and start calling names, or suffer a psychotic episode by having to examine their core beliefs.

They have none of required knowledge, courage, or intellectual capacity to debate, they sit in their sullied tower and issue proclamations that are beyond question.

e.g. there are no terrorists except GWB and the US military industrial complex.

56 republic  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:27:16am

To Ed Williams,

How's that "suspended" Rueters employee thing going?

57 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:28:15am

Re- The hot looking woman with the bedroom eyes in the 'Mate1' blog-ad.


What is "intimate dating". How does it compare to a normal dinner and movie type first date?

58 so.cal.swede  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:28:22am

semi-OT. I don't know if this was discussed already.. but it just made me sick.

59 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:29:23am

I think it's about 6:30pm in London. Maybe if some of those reuters employees will feel more leaky after they get home from work.

60 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:29:25am

#38 Isobella -

I think you have it there.

Funny how reporters savour bringing down hypocrites. Especially powerful one's who use that power to threaten and intimidate.

I wonder how the reporters at Reuters feel about where they work? The true colors come out in a time of crisis - I'd be thinking about moving on to a less hypocritical organization were I a Reuters reporter.

61 Geepers  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:30:59am

Blue Chip (#33),

I await your answers…..

Well, you might get an important sounding brush off from the likes of Ed Williams but I wouldn't even hold my breath for that.

62 ctrlL  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:31:29am
*-O)):~{>

the official prophet mohammed bomb-head emoticon!

Here's a pictorial that anyone Zionist warriors can understand -

(_*_)

*-O)):~{>

And you can see the full selection of Mocons at the Mohammed Image Archive "Mohammed Smileys"

63 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:31:37am

well....the humor has already hit the gutter this morning.

Too bad Reuters knucked under to the Islamists. But then again, the press alwaysa hasa fascination for fascists of any stripe. Check the NYT's tongue-bath of 'Mssr. Hitler' or Stalin. OR Mao. Or Pol Pot. Or Castro. Or Che. Well, you get the idea.

64 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:31:39am

#52 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

Ever been drunk in London?

65 Dirk Diggler  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:31:46am

Our friend Bangawalla's fragile [bigoted word] sensibilities must really be offended by that intimate dating advertisement.

66 Laurence Simon  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:31:50am

Okay, that's worth a Zionist Conspiracy Check...

67 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:32:47am

Jesus Christ ~ Zionist Mischief Maker
[Link: uts.cc.utexas.edu...]

68 W-lover  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:33:26am

Earth2moonbat-

Something tells me they're roto-Reutering their Bungholes.....

Great- now I hear Beavis wanting T.P. in my head.

69 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:34:01am

65 Dirk Diggler

Our friend Bangawalla's fragile Muslim sensibilities must really be offended by that intimate dating advertisement.

Or maybe that's why he keeps coming back. Maybe that's as close as he gets. I always suspected that there's some wanking involved in this affair.

70 sms111  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:34:19am

To these questions I would add:

Dear Reuters employees:

1. Do you think the person involved will not get fired due to death threats against their bosses?

2. Do you fear getting your head sliced off with kitchen knives while you scream (until your vocal cords are severed) by certain of your co-workers?

71 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:35:12am
72 Blue Chip  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:35:18am
#61 Geepers
Well, you might get an important sounding brush off from the likes of Ed Williams but I wouldn't even hold my breath for that.

Yeah, the silence is deafening.

You’d think one employee would email Charles and distance themselves from the author of the threat.

Come on Reuters, show us you what you’re really made of…..

73 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:36:21am

I had always been told that age and cunning will always overcome youth and enthusiam, so if Reuters has the age and the cunning while Charles and LGF represent youth and enthusiam what is Reuters and the Muslims afraid of?
Reuters has been at this game for a long time and yet the Muslim Council on Hurt Feelings (or whatever they are) think a little ol blog site poses a big threat to their religion.
Oh yeah I almost forgot how much damage zombie did to their fragile psyches.
Oh well this Muslim Council will no doubt inspire thousands of Muslims to riot in the streets and probably kill other Muslims to show their outrage at the unwanted publicity this Bunghole fella is getting. Seems to be the way they operate.

74 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:36:50am

Hecht quoted Winston Churchill, saying: “Mohammedanism, besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.”

He added that “tolerating evil is a crime. Appeasing totalitarian societies does not buy protection.” [Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

75 Buckaroo  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:37:14am

# 69 e2m

There's a new mate1 ad? All I have is netflix and text for window replacement ...

/"I got a rock"
:-)

76 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:38:25am

The difference between us and Reuters is we would actually like to help them screw their heads on straight while they'd prefer to cut ours off.

Subtle, I know, but maybe someone there can grasp the concept.

77 Egfrow  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:38:44am

Charles it's time to initiate level 3 operations against our little jihadists from Reuters/Guardian. We have opeatives in local UK.

78 Buckaroo  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:38:58am

# 72 B C

I think Reuters has shown us precisely what they are made of -- and it's very sad ...

79 Isobella  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:39:17am

Maybe this will help Reuters employees understand....

Reuter's employees, picture this....a Fox News employee using Fox's equipment sends a threat to blogger kill a blogger and the employee is only suspended - think that would fly with you? I seriously doubt it.

Think of it from that perspective. I think it'll help you comprehend what is going on here.

80 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:39:30am

Never even been to London.


I have been drunk in the Empire:, Bermuda, Diego Garcia, and Hong Kong pre-Communism.

81 Andrew Ian Dodge  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:40:08am

Well its good to see people at Reuters have discovered blogs. Took em' a while that is for sure.

82 joewilson  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:41:17am

Looking at your site meter, you are getting hit by different countries.

83 sms111  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:41:35am

Now this is interesting:

Syrian-born Professor Bassam Tibi of Cornell University, however, disagreed, saying: “I am a Muslim, and a German citizen. I am reaching my hand out to peace. We must distinguish between Islam and Islamism. Is Islam a belief in god, a faith or a political order? If a person says it is a faith, this is an ordinary Muslim. But if they say it is a political order, you are talking to an Islamist

84 Silhouette  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:41:46am

Obligatory "what if it were..." statement.

What if a wish for slit throats came from a FoxNews computer, written to some other group of course?

Would all the Reuters employees be equally unconcerned and dismissive about the threat because "views expressed in messages are those of the individual sender?"

What if a death threat came from a White House computer to someone there? Would you still ignore it as insignificant, Reuters?

85 Black George Bush  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:42:07am

its kind of sad how these people use conspiracys to make themselves feel more important than they really are. the whole mentality that for one reason or another, the western world has nothing better to do than think of ever clever ways to hold muslims back is laughable at best.

86 toddhisattva  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:42:33am

Since the Persian word for "Turk" was "Xiyon" and the Celestial Blue Turks are my favorite Turk tribe, maybe I'm a Xiyonist?

87 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:42:35am

#72 Blue Chip:

You’d think one employee would email Charles and distance themselves from the author of the threat.

Yea, one that wants to lose his/her job.

I don't think any employee of any company would do that, otherwise, lol.

Like, basically admission of guilt in writing by what is likely to be construed as a representative of the company at a time where the "hi'er-ups" are busy handling damage control and legal implications?

Uh, right...

I'm sorry, but that's just, erh, slightly naive, imo.

88 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:43:44am

Whoa. Check out the Naughty but Nice babe.

-------------------->

Hubba hubba.

Memo to Al-Reuters: We dig bikini babes.

89 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:44:11am

#82 joewilson

Gosh. The CIA agent is telling us secret agent stuff that we could have never figgered out by ourselves. I think someone in London needs some yellowcake for his bunghole.......

90 mazeman  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:45:08am

Hate to say it Charles, but they're just laughing at you now.
The employees at Reuters are getting all this attention (update posts) simply for visiting your site.

91 WriterMom  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:45:33am

This reminds me of the thread about "Charles" really being an invention of the UJA...

REUTERS-COME IN AND HAVE SOME TEA WITH MILK.

DON'T MIND THE GENTILE BLOOD MIXED IN.

/TASTES GREAT, LESS FILLING!

92 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:45:43am

Zachor Et Asher Asa Lecha Amalek BaDerech Betzetchem MiMitzrayim!

~ The Part-Time Nuts of Zion,
Mischief Makers Department
Virtual Division

93 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:46:37am

I am sure by now the Net Nazi's employed by Reuters have instituted "appropiate" measures to ensure that their employees do not happen across this web site by accident even if it in the course of their duties for investigationg a story.
Imagine the Keystone Cops routine being carried out over there.
Boss: I need background on the LGF web site and this chap Charles Johnson.
Employee: I am sorry we aren't allowed to access that web site

94 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:46:54am

#90 mazeman
Nihilists rarely laugh. They seethe.

95 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:47:41am

#33 Blue Chip
Something for Reuters employees to think about as they commute home on the tube. Good one.
Never forget.... London rocked by terror attacks

96 Catttt  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:47:50am

I found an insult from the indefatigable Emillee on the Comment is Free thread (you know - the one where Muslims might accept Christians if they gave up on the divinity of Christ):

idiotic, ignorant islamophobic green wotsits

I took it out of context because there really was no context. Just wanted to share it. :)

97 moonsbreath  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:49:15am

(__)(_/_) (__)(_/_) (__)(_/_) (__)(_/_)

Is * a butt plug? (_*_)

98 Beagle  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:50:26am
BTW: Did you guys publish the cartoons?
If not, why not?


The Zionisssst Khartoonsss were not publissshed in the UK whatssssoever.

99 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:50:45am

#91 WriterMom:

REUTERS-COME IN AND HAVE SOME TEA WITH MILK.

DON'T MIND THE GENTILE BLOOD MIXED IN.

/TASTES GREAT, LESS FILLING!

Funny, I always found Gentile Blood food and drinks rather filling and usually pass on seconds :P

100 Miss Trixie  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:51:08am

Bungawalla-ding-dong and Reuters etal

(__*__) ♪

I f*rt in your general direction.

101 lastofourkind  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:51:18am

BOO!

102 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:51:23am
#82 joewilson 5/31/2006 10:41AM PDT

Looking at your site meter, you are getting hit by different countries.

Whoa, check out the brainpower on joewilson today.

Hey joe, is that a Big Kahuna burger you're enjoying over there?

103 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:52:59am

#88 Jammie

The sweater girl?

104 right wing zephyr  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:53:56am

welcome to the real world, Reuters. Where no one with the ability to think for themselves gives a second thought to your world views.

105 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:55:12am

# 102 JammieWearingFool

Hey - how did you know I once ate one of those?

106 mal  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:55:25am

Must read article on Islam

[Link: www.hudson.org...]

107 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:55:28am
Hey joe, is that a Big Kahuna burger you're enjoying over there?

If so:

"Mmmm-hmmm! This is a tasty burger!"

108 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:55:31am

Ward,

No, there was a scrumptious little blondbikinibabe there before.

Keep refreshing; I'm sure she'll return unless she was offended by my ogling.

109 Beagle  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:55:59am
110 Blue Chip  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:56:06am
LGF Zionist minion Blue Chip


I’ve been promoted!

I assume this comes with an increase in the weekly pay envelope….


//Not bad for a Irish Catholic in Boston

111 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:56:45am

Yo Reuters, Yo Mamma!

112 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:57:28am

It is one thing for a coworker to make a threat - after all, it wasn't you that made the threat.

It is another think entirely when your employer sweeps the matter under the rug. And then goes out of the way to protect the anonymity of the offender.

At that point the whole matter reflects poorly on you if you don't voice your concern.

I would think that Reuters, being a news organization, would want to run a transparent organization. Reuters employees should want to be part of a responsible organization - one that conducts itself to standards that they expect of others.

Here, quite clearly, they don't.

113 lastofourkind  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:57:48am

I'm smoking a couple of hog shoulders and some chickens outback as we speak BBQ for all! even you reuters clowns are welcome even have cold beer and some fine bourbon if you are so inclined

114 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:58:21am

#94 BabbaZee

Nihilists rarely laugh. They seethe.

And Islamists never laugh. I don't think they can comprehend humor. That's probably whay they're studying us so closely. They have no clue what kind of Zionist code we're speaking in. Their cryptologists are trying to decypher (_*_)......

115 joewilson  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:58:38am

102 JammieWearingFool

Remember "Pulp Fiction"?

"Check out the brain on Joe Wilson?"

Try enabling the unregistered comments or open the registration to see what they have to say.

116 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:59:15am
117 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 31, 2006 8:59:33am

Golden/Carl in Jerusalem,

I wonder if joewilson has a Flock of Seagulls hairdo?

118 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:00:45am
119 David E  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:00:51am

I believe that is Zionist Irish Catholic in Boston Blue chip.

120 mj  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:01:10am

The reason for the extra hits from Reuters today can be explained by the post over at
MPACUK’s site. Since most of Reuters employees are probably also members of MPACUK, then it stands to reason they first learned about this over at MPACUK’s web site.

121 zulubaby  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:01:38am

Having a major blonde moment ... can't remember how to link again. Help. Me. Please.

122 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:01:46am

#116 ploome hineni

they are stupid crackpots. how do the attract so many?

They get paid for it.

123 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:02:09am

Charles, this deserves a thread:

Dallas Morning News

In desperate times, daughter is currency
Afghan drug lord will take 13-year-old for bride as payment for farmer's debts

DEH MAGAS, Afghanistan – A hailstorm wiped out his poppy crop, so Abdul Satar will have to hand over his 13-year-old daughter, Esther, to a 70-year-old drug lord to pay off the family's debt.

Officially, it's a marriage.

"We don't have any choice. If the money lender wants our land or daughters, we have to do whatever makes him happy," the aging farmer says, his eyes welling with tears as his daughter sits next to him in their mud-brick shack.

Esther quietly fingers the black scarf that covers her hair. Asked how she feels about her impending wedding to local drug baron Khan Mohammed, she looks down at her feet.


ASH SWEETING / Special Contributor
Abdul Satar lost his poppy harvest to a hailstorm. His daughter Esther (left) will be given as a second wife to a 70-year-old drug lord to pay debt accrued at a grocery shop the dealer runs in Deh Magas, in Badakhshan, Afghanistan.

"I don't want to marry him," she whispers...

Check out the picture of her. No wonder that 70-year-old pervert wants her.

124 zulubaby  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:02:24am

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Paris is burning ... again.

125 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:02:52am

#121 zulubaby

The buttons all changed a couple months ago. Now, you type the text, highlight it, and then click the button.

126 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:03:19am

Please excuse the formatting problems in my post #123.

127 Geepers  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:04:50am

Hey zulubaby,

No blond moment at all, Charles has updated and altered the functions.

Type in the text you want for the link first, then hi-light it, then hit "Link", then paste the URL into the dialog box.

128 uncle_monkey  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:05:19am

#97 moonsbreath

Nah, that's the chocolate starfish!

(°)

That's the official Reuter's buttplug™.

129 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:05:29am

#114 Earth2moonbat
LOL! They probably do.

I worked with a libertwatian Eunichwitus German intern a few years ago.
One day she says, quote:

"I do not like your sense of humor!"

Yea, so?
[bigoted word]s, Uncle Choms, Shemen and sprockety Eurotwatty liberal types are infamously humor-challenged.
They suffer from the little known and potentially terminal
Festivus Minimus Syndrome.

130 Silhouette  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:05:34am

In the world I thought I grew up in, it is the newspaper that is supposed to GET the death threat.

You know, the reporter is working on a series of stories exposing the local mob kingpin, and starts finding horse heads in his bed.

But now it is the news employee sending the death threat. What a world.

There is something especially nasty about the throat cut. Recent years have shown a certain, ah, tendency shall we say for beheadings and throat cutting from a certain group.

One could almost brush off, as empty, threats like:

"I hate you and wish you were dead."
"I hope a building falls on you."
"I'm gonna kill you, you jerk."

But the wish for the day when "you pigs have your throats cut"...hmmm...is just too based in reality of what has happened to people when they cross militant Islam to be ignored.

131 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:05:50am
132 lastofourkind  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:06:09am

Awwww Ward Clever
That put a damper on my good mood! Damn those savages to hell she looks like my niece,blood rage! im beginning to paint with that broad brush i know i know i shouldnt but damn!

133 Doss  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:08:25am

Has our mole in the Reuters office given us any more secret information. I haven't gotten the latest email update.

That last report from the mole is pretty damning to Reuters - they have no idea that they've been infiltrated. Hey, al-Reuters, maybe it's time (too late, actually) that you sweep your office(s) for bugs or small hidden cameras. Woops - too late - they've already been secreted, gathered what was needed, and been removed from your office(s).

I'll give you al-Reuters idjits a little hint: flowers aren't always just pretty.

134 WriterMom  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:09:00am

#110 blue chip

You get some of these!

135 Sleipnir  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:09:11am

#124 zulubaby

The New York Times describes it as a "tangle" between "police and youths".

Paris Police and Youths Tangle as Unrest Resumes

The New York Times: some of the news, filtered very carefully.

136 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:09:51am

129 BabbaZee

[bigoted word]s, Uncle Choms, Shemen and sprockety Eurotwatty liberal types are infamously humor-challenged.
They suffer from the little known and potentially terminal
Festivus Minimus Syndrome.

They have their own something that passes for humor. I'll never forget the couple of them that were yucking it up and splitting guts over the title of Franken's book "Rush Limbaugh is a big, fat idiot". The title, mind you, not the book itself. Really subtle, nuanced humor.

137 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:10:02am

Hey Zulubaby!

138 Silhouette  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:10:30am

#123 Ward

We don't have any choice. If the money lender wants our land or daughters

Call me crazy, but I'd give him my land first.

139 WriterMom  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:10:31am

Marginalized Yoooots burning Paris (again).

zzzzuuuuuullllluuuu

:P

140 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:11:28am
141 goodbye_natalie  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:11:56am

I have my own set of questions for Reuter's employees.

(1) Does Reuters require sensitivity training in personal dealings with Zionist pigs?

(2) Who was your favorite 3rd Reich hero?

(3) Who is the Dept. Head of network administration?

(4) How come you guys were able to help construct AV8B Harriers but MGB's were such a POS?

(5) Do harassment laws apply to women wearing burkas at the office?

(6) Do you guys like movies about gladiators?

142 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:12:22am
#115 joewilson 5/31/2006 10:58AM PDT

102 JammieWearingFool

Remember "Pulp Fiction"?

"Check out the brain on Joe Wilson?"

Try enabling the unregistered comments or open the registration to see what they have to say.

This guy is so stupid it takes him two hours to watch 60 Minutes.

143 daughter of patriots  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:12:54am

Lunchtime, & I just met on the corner of Tremont & School Streets here in Boston, some cousins of these Al Reuter idiots, holding bed sheets shouting "Free Palestine" & "Israel & USA are the true terrorists!"

One of the young (American?) men had a bandana covering his face. I asked him why he wouldn't show his face "are you a coward?" To the other I asked if he thought the 3,000 killed in the WTC deserved to be killed by Al Queda. His response? "Mr. Silverstein (emphasis on the Jewishness of the name) did that!" Apparently he's the owner of the WTC.

My anger was rising - sometimes I wish I was a big strong muscle bound guy to deal with these bullies, so I left with "you're on the wrong side, and one day you'll know it!"

Blood pressure getting back to normal...

144 mbruce  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:13:08am

God I wish Halloween were this weekend, I would put peanut butter around my mouth and go as a Reuter's Writer Master Bunghole.

145 zulubaby  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:13:19am

song_and_dance_man, hiya! Nice to see you too :-)

Geepers, Earth2moonbat, ta very much. Charles explained it all but of course I promptly forgot.

146 GregInSeattle  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:13:53am

Link:

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and
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[A HREF="url"]TITLE FOR YOUR LINK[/A]

147 zulubaby  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:14:52am

Ward Cleaver, hey yourself :-)

WriterMamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! LOL.

148 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:15:33am

#140 Ward Cleaver:

From your link--

Now the national federation of Colombian coffee producers, owners of the Juan Valdez trademark, is searching for a man to inherit that poncho.

I.
Am.
All.
Over.
This.


[rushing to update résumé and buy burro]

149 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:15:35am

As I check my secret Zion decoder ring....I see everything is moving along just as we planned....yes..hahahaha...The world will soon be ours.

150 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:15:41am

#138 Silhouette

It shows you where their priorities are.

I was trying to think who she reminded of. It's a young Jane Alexander.

151 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:15:50am

Ward
is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?

152 joewilson  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:17:00am

They are here to read my comments. LOL.

153 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:17:05am

Oooooops .....

Look at what Reuters was writing about on May 18th -

EU Internet proposals to protect society

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - EU proposals to regulate content on the Internet are aimed at protecting society not undermining free speech, European Union Media Commissioner Viviane Reding said on Thursday.

Reding spoke at a news conference after a group of European Union culture ministers met to discuss extending rules restricting television content to cover telephones and the Internet as well as over-the-air broadcasts.

She said the proposed regulations reflected "basic societal values" -- the protection of young children and restrictions on incitement to hatred.

She said there is wide agreement on the restrictions against content that "goes too far and ... destroys our society."

Here is the kicker

"That has nothing to do with free speech, that has to do with the freedom to protect your society on the basis of laws which have been accepted by national and European parliament," she said.

Notice that the article has no opposing view expressed. It also emphasizes "laws which have been accepted by national and European parliament".

So - how do the actions (or, more precisely, inactions) of Reuters management in handling a hate motivated death threat made by an employee square with European "basic societal values"?

Doesn't Reuters think that such laws should apply to them?

Why is Reuters protecting the anonymity of this person who they KNOW is guilty of these acts since they suspended him/her over it?

How can Reuters' employees stand for this? Is Reuters above the law?

154 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:18:16am

#142 Jammie

He's always been a little slow.

(pats joewilson's head)

155 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:18:23am

#151 BZ:

is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?

Also, he appears to be wearing Dockers. But never mind that. Will you support my bid to become the new Juan Valdéz? Also, do you know any tips for quickly growing a moustache?

156 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:19:45am

Shaka!
Shaka
Jewlubabe!
[Link: www.peppercornbooks.com...]

Big Shalom to the Z-babes

157 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:20:02am

#151 BabbaZee

I think it's a Sears poncho. Check out the picture. He's standing in front of a "Wetzel's Pretzels" shop. Looks like it's in a mall. There could be a Sears there.

158 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:20:34am
159 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:21:46am

#155 Occasional Reader
I second your motion, Elexehente!
Try 40 mgs of Danazol a day...
[Link: www.nlm.nih.gov...]

160 zulubaby  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:22:13am

BabbaZee, that is hilarious! :-) How goes it?

161 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:22:39am

Fresh from Memri...
Mufti of Egypt Sheik Ali Gum'a: Wife-Beating Is Permitted by Islam in Muslim Countries, but Is Forbidden in the West

Ali Gum'a: Wife-beating is associated with the cultural status of women in the different societies. Women in some cultures are not averse to beatings. They consider it as an expression of masculinity, and as a kind of control, which she herself desires. In other societies, it is the exact opposite. We must follow reason. When we are dealing with certain societies...

I got a question from Canada. The man said: "Here, it is a crime to beat a wife, even with a toothbrush. Is this prohibition acceptable in Islam? Yes. Islam accepts that the beating of Canadian wives, in this culture and ambience... From childhood they are taught that beating women is a type of barbarism, savagery, and so on. There is nothing wrong with taking this into consideration, and adapting to society, because Islam did not command us to be aggressive towards women.

If in their culture, this constitutes aggression towards women, then we are forbidden to be aggressive towards women. In this situation it is inevitable but to consider [beating] this way, and accepting the society, because Islam did not come and command me to be aggressive towards women. But when Allah permitted wife-beating, He permitted it to the other side of culture, which considers it as one of the means to preserve the family, and as one of the means to preserve stability.


I guess it's an attempt at islamic multiculturalism.

162 Silhouette  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:25:11am

#161 Killgore Trout

She likes it! Hey, Mikey.

163 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:25:28am

158 song_and_dance_man

Iran: Tehran Says It Is Working On Advanced Nuclear Fusion

I take back what I said about islamists not having a sense of humor.

164 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:26:09am

#159 BZ:

Hmm, don't know about those side effects:

Changes in semen;


Now, what do they mean by "changes"? I mean, if it'll start doing something fun, like say glowing in the dark, I might be up for it.


decrease in size of testicles

Gah! Can this be offset by scrotal inflation?

165 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:26:13am
166 goodbye_natalie  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:27:21am

Dear Reuter's guests,

Welcome to the Zionist LGF Forum. While here, be sure to mind your manners and strive for the Zionist creed:

Remember that your health is your greatest possession. Of course, controlling world markets means you have something for a rainy day.

---Borrowed from Internation Jewish Conspiracy Website

[Link: www.internationaljewishconspiracy.com...]

167 WriterMom  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:28:13am

#153 K.I

Gawd!

Screw those Euroseptics.

168 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:28:15am

Wecome to my Nightmare....Alice Cooper You are about to take a trip into The Twilight Zone....Rod Serling........Now for the main event..........Iran: US has to prove good intentions

Rapporteur of the Iranian Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Kazem Jalali said Wednesday that Iran doubts the sincerity of Washington's decision to join talks between European powers and Iran over its nuclear program. (Dudi Cohen)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

169 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:29:07am

Iran: Developing Nuclear Fusion.

Europe: Developing Nuclear Confusion.

170 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:29:12am

Oh my Jewlubaby it goes.... but I have no idea how.
Sheer will?

Good to see you.


Just cause it makes me happy

171 Dirk Diggler  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:29:53am

And here I thought 'global warming' was all a result of Chimpy McHalliburton's rape of the natural world in pursuit of outrageous profit$.

Scientists say Arctic once was tropical

Scientists have found what might have been the ideal ancient vacation hotspot with a 74-degree Fahrenheit average temperature, alligator ancestors and palm trees. It's smack in the middle of the Arctic.

First-of-its-kind core samples dug up from deep beneath the Arctic Ocean floor show that 55 million years ago an area near the North Pole was practically a subtropical paradise, three new studies show.

The scientists say their findings are a glimpse backward into a much warmer-than-thought polar region heated by run-amok greenhouse gases that came about naturally.

172 WriterMom  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:30:18am

#159 BabbaZee

Enlarged clitoris.

I'm not sure what exactly I want to say about this-but the phrase really kind of jumped out of that page.

173 GregInSeattle  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:30:46am

Since those idiots in Iran can't even make a good batch of Uranium Hexafluoride (China had to give 'em a clean batch), I REALLY doubt those stooges could create a fusion reactor. The West hasn't even done that yet.

174 ggt  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:30:52am

Good afternoon Day Lizards. It's hot and bright in Near Iowa today.

Is it too early in the thread to go OT with a bad, bad joke, apologies if it has been around already:

Chicago, IL (AP) - A seven year old boy was at the center of a Chicago courtroom drama yesterday when he challenged a court ruling over who should
have custody of him. The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with the
child custody law and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the degree possible. The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that
his aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her.

When the judge suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried out that they also beat him. After considering the remainder of the
immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy
to propose who should have custody of him.

After two recesses to check legal references and confer with child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the Chicago Cubs, whom
the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone.

175 David E  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:31:32am

All this Sears talk has gotten me all nostalgic about Monkey Wards, particularly the Christmas Toy Catalog.

Somewhere I have a poncho I got in Juarez.

176 Mike C.  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:31:36am

# 158 s_a_d_m

I'm sure they're working on teleportation and the warp drive as well.

177 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:32:45am

#164 Occasional Reader
Why yes,of course, scrotal inflation is just the ticket for the danazol induced flaccid diminishing scrotus!

[Link: www.zombietime.com...]
scroll to #4

178 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:33:25am

writermom, ROTF!

179 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:33:41am

#172 WriterMom

the phrase really kind of jumped out of that page.

Clever, O oily one......

180 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:34:51am

Poncho: Check

Sombrerito blanco: Check

Burro: Check

Fake moustache: Check

Levi's Doqueros: Check


I'm ready for my interview.

181 Sarah D.  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:35:24am
the Reuters IP address 192.165.213.18 has hit our site 134 times since midnight, and it looks like there may even be one or two Reuters people online right now.

Hmmm. Planning a feature article on the rabid right? A thought experiment? News is slow?

182 sheik yaabooboo  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:37:03am

ALLAH REUTERABBA ACKBAR!

183 WriterMom  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:37:22am

Bwahahaha, another secret weapon in the Mossad arsenal....along with Zionist Hair Beams, there are the extra secret, souped up, enlarged Zionist clitorises.

The poisoned chocolates are amateur hour!

184 Mike C.  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:37:34am

# 162 Shilouette

Yes ?

185 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:38:06am

Two recent events regarding Iran show the strange situation we are witnessing. The first has to do with Ahmadinejad's letter to President Bush, the second with the Iranian dress code.

Apart from Robert Spencer in jihadwatch.com, Amil Imani in faithfreedom.org, Amir Taheri in the New York Post, Caroline Glick in the Jerusalem Post and Hillel Fradkin in the Weekly Standard, the rest of the world media totally misunderstood what Ahmadinejad meant. The letter was, according to Robert Spencer, an invitation to convert to Islam, a da'wa, an Islamic requirement before waging war against the unbelievers.

What is more, Ahmadinejad himself confirmed this interpretation in Indonesia: "The letter was an invitation to monotheism and justice, which are common to all divine prophets. If the call is responded positively, there will be no more problems to be solved." In traditional Muslim belief, it is only Islam that guarantees "monotheism, worship of God, justice, respect for the dignity of man, belief in the Last Day."

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

186 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:38:09am

Fusion, heh, Big deal.

187 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:39:27am

#165 Ed...

Let the HANS devices fly!

188 Silhouette  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:39:38am

Dear Columbian Coffee Bean Growers,

Please consider the application of Mr. Reader for the new Juan Valdez. He will be excellent for sales.

After just one nightmare about him, people will triple their coffee intake.

;-)

189 WriterMom  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:39:49am

WOW...weird...

The Gematria numerology of the number:

192.165.213.18

is "Eat Shorts From Zion"....

/no not really

190 Miss Trixie  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:40:07am

{daughter of patriots}

Blood pressure getting back to normal...

I've been in your shoes many times. In fact, just 20 minutes ago I was talking with a female Quebecker and we were discussing the Prime Minister, Stephen Harper. Her first words were "He's just like George Bush. A warmonger."

I looked at her and said, "Stephen Harper did not send our troops to Afghanistan - the former LIBERAL party under Paul Martin did."

She was trapped and speechless and then I finished with "And there has not been ONE more attack in the US since 9/11 because George Bush has been on watch. What does that tell you?"

And to briefly mention the most devastating comment came from my husband who said on 9/11 that "the Americans deserved it".

I could have killed him with my bare hands at that moment and not regretted it.

/keep that BP down

191 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:40:59am

#161 Killgore Trout

All they need now are tank tops (wife beaters) and mullets.

192 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:42:59am

Speaking of jerks, it looks like the jig's up for Jesse Macbeth:

Jesse Macbeth is one of those fake veterans who allegedly tried to defraud the VA system. His story is told by Steve Oatney, State Service Director for AMVETS since Nov. 2005 in the Tacoma area. Steve relates the following in an email:

On Sept 19 2005 Mr. Macbeth filed a claim for compensation in our office. I hate to say it but he successfully passed that bogus DD214 off to an experienced NSO. (I took his place in November).

Fast forward to February. I received a call from a VA employee at the American Lake hospital. He had asked me to "verify" the 214. Now this is the first time I had any knowledge of Mr. MacBeth. I pulled his hard file out and reviewed it. As soon as I saw the DD214 (the fake one) I informed the VA employee that Mr. Macbeth had a fraudulent 214. I proceeded to contact our National Service officer in Seattle, Sharon V***l, and Senior Investigator M**** S****s of the VAOIG (Veterans Administration Inspector General).

Mr. MacBeth visited my office on February 27. Law enforcement personnel were notified but at the time they were not really interested in picking him up.

He once more visited my office on the 9th of March with his "whine" fest. At that time I told him the "gig was up" and he should leave my office and never come back. I also sent a fax to agent S****s with MacBeths current info on it.

The whole time I never realized this guy was making videos, belonging to IVATW, Veterans for peace or anybody else.

Well now Pierce County WA has a Felony Assault warrant out for him as of 23 May. He beat up a girl. Now he has left town, believed to be in San Francisco with the group "Swords to Plowshares"!

And yes, the VA will soon have a Federal Warrant on him and yep, they will prosecute him for fraud.

I am glad this jerk is finished. But I find it very revealing how eagerly the liberals & left in the US believed his bs. They wanted to believe, because he echoed the lies they were telling.

193 zulubaby  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:43:53am

I think my Zionist Hair Beams are interfering with Messenger.

194 Sleipnir  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:44:00am

#153 karmic_inquisitor

Media Commissioner Viviane Reding is quite something, isn't she?

She said there is wide agreement on the restrictions against content that "goes too far and ... destroys our society."

Is there? First I heard about that.

"That has nothing to do with free speech ..."

Oh, no? Notice she doesn't say that no society can allow free speech to be absolute; she simply denies that restrictions on it have anything to do with it.

... incitement to hatred ...

What is that supposed to mean? Incitement to violence I understand. Threats of violence I understand. But what is incitement to hatred? Might reporting on a hateful incident, as LGF did when it reported on the death threat Charles received be construed as such? That odious little shrimp Bunglawala pretty much accused LGF of "inciting hatred" (which is great coming from an extruder of anti-Semitic bile).

Can we be sure the EU wouldn't take a similar line? The example Viviane Reding gives is a good one: it is evidently an Islamist TV station that was broadcasting to France. But if the French courts can do this anyway, what need for proposals from the EU? I can't say I think much of the EU's track record on any number of issues, and fail to see why it should be interfering in what member states choose to do in this area. Can we be sure in practice that the EU would not take action against a site that, for example, criticized Islam - to pluck an issue at random.

195 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:44:01am

Dear Reuters Spy..........Why is that? Why is it so difficult for the media and politicians in the western world to sit down and, through Amazon, order three books after which the picture would become clear: "Why I Am Not A Muslim" by Ibn Warraq, "Islam and Dhimmitude" by Bat Ye'or and "The Sword of the Prophet" by Serge Trifkovic? (The Koran is available online.)

During the Cold War, hundreds of books were available that tackled the subject of the USSR, from Helene Carrere d'Encausse's " Decline of an Empire" to Nikita Khruschev's "Khruschev Remembers." There is little doubt that US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, as a Soviet specialist, had read many of them. Why not read Warraq, Bat Ye'or and Trifkovic?

(books you should read)....[Link: www.jpost.com...]

196 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:45:27am

Al-Reuters:
Beware the Kosher Nostra!
[Link: www.highfidelitydisco.com...]


See youse later.
I have important Zionist Mischief to attend to.

197 zombie  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:46:59am
#177 BabbaZee
Why yes,of course, scrotal inflation is just the ticket for the danazol induced flaccid diminishing scrotus!

http: //www.zombietim...
scroll to #4

Are you unaware of the new, improved Scrotal Inflation photograph?

Behold! : More detailed close-up of Mr. Scrotum.

(Due to popular demand, here is a close-up of "Scrotum Man," as he has come to be known.)
198 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:47:23am

#181 Sarah D.

Hmmm. Planning a feature article on the rabid right? A thought experiment? News is slow?

I asked in another thread, and never got an answer, but I'm sure that Charles is able to not only track what page they arrive at, but what pages they're going to after that. That information would shine a lot more light on what they may be up to.

199 Miss Trixie  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:48:22am

Ward and give one to {June}

All they need now are tank tops (wife beaters) and mullets.

Every morning on the way to work, I pass a "GranolaMullet™" waiting on a bus.

/start hushed snotty english narrator voice

Despite its advanced age, this shining species sports a brilliant plumage of white moussed hair and the lovely mullet in the back is graced with a trailing, beaded leather clip. True GranolaMullets™, found in their natural habitat, often have a sour look on their faces indicating a lack of dietary fibre due to McChimpyHaliburton's scourge of wetlands in Alaska. Migration to the more southern parts of the hemisphere is common and the annual GranolaMullet™ mating ritual occurs during the July 4th Independence Day celebration. It is thought that the expression "Coyote Ugly" was coined after a mating ritual in Billy-Jean's Wetspot Bar & Grill resulted in disappointed GranolaMullets™ everywhere, and their numbers were seen to decrease for a decade.

Until Billy Ray Cyrus's "Achy Breaky Heart" started the gene pool anew.

/end hushed snotty english narrator voice

:D

200 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:49:00am

#188 Silhouette:


After just one nightmare about him

SILENCE, Rovian minion!

I will have you know, sirrah, that during Saturday night's drunken "who will play you in the movie about you if you become famous?" game at an NYC bar, the consensus answer for me was "Keanu Reaves". Who might be dumb as a post, but is generally acknowleged as good-looking. (I think they're way off, but hey, The People Spoke, so all I can say is: "Whoa.")

201 Shaken  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:49:17am

I plan to purchase Reuters shares and attend their next AGM, where I shall ask questions about this incident.

202 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:49:35am

Nice mid-level center East-Northeast of Corpus Christi as seen on Houston long range WSR-88D NexRad Doppler Loop, but no evidence of surface low pressure, in fact, pressure has risen slightly.

Although deep layer shear, hostile to tropical cyclone formation, has decreased slightly since yesterday, at over 20 knots, or about 10 m/s it is still hindering tropical cyclogenesis.


Has been raining a boatload here in Coastal Texas, however.

203 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:49:44am

BTW - though it can't be confirmed, many believe that Israel currently has the ability to do fusion on Iran's butt. Not peaceful fusion, either.

204 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:49:57am
205 DesertSage  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:50:53am

Do you smell that Reuters? That smell of conspiracy?
I love the smell of a good Zionist Conspiracy in the morning...it smells like.....VICTORY!

206 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:51:20am

-Hey Reuters,in most of the civilized world,sending death threats is a criminal offense and you have admitted the threat came from your IP,therefore you are accessories after the fact if you don't prosecute and/or assist in the prosecution of said individual.

In fact,you could be considered to be aiding and abetting if you don't disclose the identity of said individual.

The emailer would be guilty of one crime,while Reuters would be guilty of two crimes.

This is getting better and better.

207 BabbaZee  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:51:53am

But Before I go...

Beware Al-Reuters...
LOOK!
Up in the sky!
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
It's......
Super-Jew!
[Link: i35.photobucket.com...]


Back to my regularly scheduled Zionist Mischief...

208 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:53:13am

LT. COL FITZPATRICK Thank You Sir

209 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:53:49am

#204 AI

I was listening earlier.

Was that the grand Kosmonaut on there at the beginning of the second hour?

That weaselly voice sure sounded like the KKKos.

I loved Rush's allusion to the upcoming moronic convergence in Vegas.

210 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:54:55am

#207 BabbaZee

Don't we have an LGFer with the nic of "Superjew"? Zat him?

211 Dirk Diggler  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:54:57am

Iraqi freedom fighters struck a blow for Allah today, gunning down a sportscaster...

A sportscaster for state-run al-Iraqiya TV was gunned down Wednesday in a drive-by shooting near his home in southwestern Baghdad, police said. Ali Jaafar, 25, was killed as he left his house, police Lt. Col. Falah al-Mohammedawi said.

The reasons for the killing were unclear, (Since when do these savages ever need a reason to maim and murder - ed.) but the state channel and its employees have in the past been targeted by insurgents waging a campaign against what they consider a U.S.-backed government.

A winning move. These Islamists/Baathists certainly know how to generate bad press.

212 Sleipnir  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:55:18am

You mangled that link, storagemanager. Here we go:

Three must-reads

Ibn Warraq, whom you mention, who was born in Pakistan, has studied deeply, and knows about these things has an interesting article online:

Islam, Middle East and Fascism

213 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:55:36am

This antimatter shit is great. What they allow in the open is only a tiny piece of what they are doing at research centers like Los Alamos.

214 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:55:53am

#196 Babba

"Beware the Kosher Nostra"

LMAO

215 godfrey  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:56:13am

Whoever's in charge of the plot to provide me with grilled reuben as a lunch option deserves a sincere pat on the back.

216 GregInSeattle  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:56:55am

Re: Rush Show: The Lt. Colonel sounds a bit frustrated that he and his squad is being held back. I wonder what he thinks we should be doing that we aren't?

217 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:56:59am
218 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:57:03am

Drive-by post to say

HELLO DEATH-THREATENER !

How'y'doooooing today ?

Sharpening knives ?
Slit any throat in the last few days ?

What do you say instead of
"what's up?"
Maybe
"what's cut ?"

What's you preferred metaphor ?
I guess "This doen's cut it".

Best regards from one of the Pigs.

219 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:58:09am

The neat thing is you don't need crap like Uranium Hexaflouride; 'just" a particle accelerator and a Penning Trap (whatever the hell that is).

220 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:58:14am

In the meantime, there was a direct hit from a Kassam on a Jewish house this morning.

221 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:59:06am

You mangled that link, storagemanager. Here we go...( my other nickname mangler)

222 Miss Trixie  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:59:48am

Sleipnir and storagemanager

Don't forget about Walid Shoebat. This is a brave and courageous man and I hold him in deepest respect.

223 realwest  Wed, May 31, 2006 9:59:58am

Hey, any LGF techno geeks out there that could give me a hand with my Windows XP box?

224 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:01:19am

PK: The Penning Trap was invented by Muslims, and antimatter is described in great detail in the Holy Sacred Q'u'r'a'n'''.

225 godfrey  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:02:08am

Carl

I read your post and share your disgust.

226 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:02:18am

OR
Yeah, big Mo found it up a goat's butt.

227 Miss Trixie  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:03:00am

Hey {realwest} AC problems over and are you resting comfortably in the heat?

228 Dirk Diggler  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:03:23am

I just can't wait until the left trots out anti-anti-matter weapon activists.

229 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:03:36am

Tut, tut, looks like rain. Gotta go put up the truck windows./.

230 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:03:43am

# 214 TotallySirius

There used to be a Kosher restaurant in LA called the Kosher Nostra. Unfortunately, a google search of the term brought up mostly anti-Semitic sites. But the Kosher Nostra restaurant - which I visited around 1980 - reopened there a couple of years ago.

231 LC LaWedgie  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:05:29am
why you’re suddenly so interested in LGF.

My guess:
Their Palestinian stringers youth counselors have been dispersed throughout the Islamic world to teach Taqqiyah 101 Vacation Koran School to other like-minded jihadis public affairs representatives.
This leaves the murky cesspool of ink splotch heros Reuters' writers as clueless as CBS and MSNBC for creative material factual evidence.

The boss is pissed - it's time to twist some lizard comments into gold.

232 zulubaby  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:05:32am

Earth2moonbat, speak of the devil.

233 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:05:35am

Re: Kosher Nostra

There is also a music/comedy piece by the Argentinian group "Les Luthiers" called "La Bossa Nostra", which makes fun of Brazilians.

234 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:05:37am

# 225 godfrey

Thanks.

Everyone -

Sounds like it was a hot night at the UN last night.

235 godfrey  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:05:48am

PK

Cool. That report was done in LaTeX, one of the greats.

236 Silhouette  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:06:28am

#192 Kenneth

Well now Pierce County WA has a Felony Assault warrant out for him as of 23 May. He beat up a girl.

I know the assault was earlier, and it was just the warrant for the assault issued last week but it just popped into my head that his outting by the blogworld last week humilated him so much he had to slap someone.

"I was so humilated when the soldiers found my porn that I slapped my mother for hours."

237 Sleipnir  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:06:34am

#222 Miss Trixie

I don't know much about him. I do remember the article at Front Page Mag that told how he got himself out of that situation and rescued his mother and father. It's a moving story. He is obviously a very remarkable man.

238 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:06:58am

Miss Trixie.....me too...I Quote Walid alot

239 Black George Bush  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:07:30am

#213 Peacekeeper
The muslim world could be joining the rest of civilization in this great discovery, but instead they choose to spend thier time discovering new ways to push human evolution in reverse.

And when the rest of humanity is going boldy, where no man has gone before, the jihadist will still be sitting here on Earth cutting each others heads off and blowing eachother up.

Ofcourse, it will be a Zionist Pig conspiracy that denied Muslims the knowledge of antimatter.

240 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:08:11am

Newsflash

Antimatter would make a piss-poor bomb.

241 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:08:16am

ABSOLUTELY and completely OT
(but I am too angry to shut up)

FIRST GREAT FEATS OF THE NEW ITALIAN PRESIDENT (commie)and of the new Italian Government (supported by commies):

PRESIDENTIAL PARDON to the (commie)assassins who killed Commissario Calabresi, a Chief of the Police in Milan, in the years that we now call "the lead years".

Bastards.

242 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:08:43am

#224 Occasional Reader

The Penning Trap was invented by Muslims, and antimatter is described in great detail in the Holy Sacred Q'u'r'a'n'''.

Lt. Checkov would disagree. Both were invented in Russia. And that's Pennich.....

243 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:09:09am
I just can't wait until the left trots out anti-anti-matter weapon activists.

ANTI-MATTER IS NOT GOOD FOR CHILDREN AND OTHER LIVING THINGS

I'M ANTI-ANTI

AUNTIE IS FOR HUGGING

244 Silhouette  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:11:24am

Those yoots really get around.

Now they're wielding machetes in East Timor.

245 Super Jew  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:11:27am

#207 BabbaZee

You fool! You've revealed my secret identity! ;)

I actually went to shul as Super Jew last Purim, I believe my theme was something like:

Faster than a spinning dreidel...
More powerful than chrein - you know, the white kind, not the purple kind... (that's horseraddish for our less Hebraically-inclined friends)
It's a Doctor,
It's a Lawyer,
No, it's SUPER JEW!

Exiled from his home planet of Judea when it was invaded by hostile aliens, Super Jew now resides on New York, where he fights for emes, tzedek, and derech Hashem! (Truth, Justice, and the G-dly way.)

(Alternatively: truth, justice, and the Hebrew-American way.)

Ehhh? Ehhh?

246 realwest  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:13:15am

Um, HELLO - any LGF Tech types out there who can give me a with my Windows XP box? Please?
IF you can, please e-mail me.
Thanks a lot.

247 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:13:52am

Y'all been reading too much sci-fi.

Antimatter/matter reactions release incredible energy but the energy is in the form of high velocity sub-atomic particles which would pass through ordinary matter completely unnoticed.

At this monent there are hundreds of billions of high energy sub-atomic particles passing through your bodies.....and you didn't even notice.

248 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:13:56am

Totally
Well the article refers to energy generators and deep space drives, but from what I've read anti matter is the most efficient energy source known to physics. So please burst my bubble...

249 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:14:09am

#194 Sleipnir

All good points.

What I saw (as I think you did) was the Reuters whitewash of the isssue.

Their reporting was an endorsement of the ID (as is common in European media).

Setting asside my obvious objections to the lsanted coverage, what does this say about REUTERS?

It says they certainly don't object to such tough standards regarding hate speech on the internet. If they had any reservations, someone else might have been quoted in the article - someone with an opposing viewpoint.

OK - so Reuters doesn't seem to mind internet speech regulation, esp. regarding hate speech. Then what the hell are they doing protecting their little hate-crime perp?

A bit of hypocrisy, is it not? Reuters paves the way for internet speech regulation for Europeans but won't act on an obviously illegal act (under existing European hate speech standards) coming from one of their own.

The only way this isn't hypocritical is if Reuters sees ant-christian/anti-semetic/anti-western hate speech as being protected speech and therefore legitimate. I think that sums up their perspective, as their biased reporting so often confirms.

250 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:15:12am

Totally
I don't think Star Trek would lie to us.

251 mglazer  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:15:27am

It's a Jewspiracy

Al-Reuters was sold out a while back by arab oil money and has been as such for a while

It still retains the air of its former diginity but its real intention is slowly sipping out

For all those who have cried bloody murder about its obvious bias - its true

But its not just bias its arab jihadists run and controlled

252 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:16:35am

245 Super Jew

Exiled from his home planet of Judea when it was invaded by hostile aliens, Super Jew now resides on New York, where he fights for emes, tzedek, and derech Hashem!

Don't worry, help is on the way.

253 W-lover  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:16:48am
Totally
I don't think Star Trek would lie to us.

At least not Mr. Spock!

254 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:17:31am
255 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:17:53am

What he said:

The feasibility of using antihydrogen for igniting inertial confinement fusion pellets or triggering large scale thermonuclear explosions is investigated. The number of antiproton annihilations required to start a thermonuclear burn wave in either DT or Li_2DT is found to be about 10^{21}/k^2, where k is the compression factor of the fuel to be ignited. In the second part, the technologies for producing antiprotons with high energy accelerator systems and the means for manipulating and storing microgram amounts of antihydrogen are examined. While there seems to be no theoretical obstacles to the production of 10^{18} antiprotons per day (the amount required for triggering one thermonuclear bomb), the construction of such a plant involves several techniques which are between 3 and 4 orders of magnitude away from present day technology.

256 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:18:05am

#247 TS:

which would pass through ordinary matter completely unnoticed[...] At this monent there are hundreds of billions of high energy sub-atomic particles passing through your bodies

I think you're thinking of neutrinos.

Antimatter is extremely rare, at least in our neck of the woods, and is annihilated upon contact with matter.

257 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:19:09am

So are the death threat threads now the new open threads?

258 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:19:18am

PK/W-Luv

I'm not saying that antimatter is useless,I'm just saying it wouldn't make a very good bomb.

In a properly designed device it would make a great rocket propulsion system.

Antimatter doesn't detonate,it fizzes.

259 godfrey  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:19:30am

poitiers-lepanto

How do you pardon persons who remain unknown?

AFAIK, Calabresi's two killers were never found. The press campaign mounted against him by Lotta Continua may have motivated someone on that side of the fence, which is my guess.

Googling "Lotta Continua" reveals that, surprise, most of them blended into the woodwork in the 80's:

Quasi tutti gli esponenti di Lotta Continua nel corso degli anni '80 hanno abbandonato l'ideologia originaria per diventare, chi dopo una militanza nel Partito Radicale (Marco Boato e Mimmo Pinto), chi lavorando in televisione (Rai o Fininvest) o su diverse testate giornalistiche, simpatizzanti del Partito Socialista Italiano, in particolare sostenitori delle posizioni del suo segretario, Bettino Craxi. Solo in pochi, come Marco Revelli o Fulvio Grimaldi, hanno aderito al Partito della Rifondazione Comunista.

Hence the pardon. Let's just nip any further investigation in the bud, says Prodi.

*spit*

260 jamgarr  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:20:04am

#197 zombie

Bumper sticker seen on Mr. Scrotum's car:

I Bloat Scrote - And I Vote!

261 Miss Trixie  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:20:39am

Sleipnir

He is obviously a very remarkable man.

Doubtless, and I would really like to see him at a speaking engagement if I may be so fortunate.

OT

Other things I like:

chili dogs
pick-up trucks
corny jokes
purple
cardinals in my birdbath
silver jewellery
thunderstorms
flying
travel
summer cherries
cool showers
flower gardens
puppies
foil wrap
ponds
fishing
sunbathing
being neighbourly
talk radio
classic books: Count of Monte Cristo, ex.
rain forest music
rain
salt air
Peanut Buster parfait

I'll think of more later

:D

262 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:20:42am

realwest - I sent you an email.

263 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:20:50am

#255 Peacekeeper

Has anyone 'splained to the governator of California that you can't use antihydrogen?

264 cjstavern  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:22:07am

Forgive my ignorance but to these terrorist lovers does a "Zionist" have to be Jewish?

265 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:22:09am

258 TotallySirius

If you can figure out how to contain it.

266 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:22:11am

#260 jamgarr -

LOL - very clever.

267 odrady  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:22:57am

"DAN RUETERS"... that's what I say...

268 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:23:01am

264 cjstavern

Charles isn't. Draw your own conclusions.

269 Miss Trixie  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:23:01am

Whoops! Look at the time - gotta go.

Tomorrow, lizards!

xoxo

270 W-lover  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:23:39am
In a properly designed device it would make a great rocket propulsion system.

So it's Scotty that's speaking the truth? ;)

271 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:23:41am

#256 OR

Neutrinos are one product of antimatter annihilations(most are produced by fusion reactions),the remainder are exotic short-lived tiny things like pions and kappons,etc.

272 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:23:54am

Here's a way to piss off the terrorists: Move the US Embassy to Jerusalem.

273 odrady  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:24:00am

"DAN REUTERS" (sp./damnit)

274 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:24:04am
I Bloat Scrote - And I Vote!

Like we need another rotating title......

275 LC LaWedgie  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:24:26am

#256 Occasional Reader -
No, no, no. Here's a neutrino on his way to work in the woods.

276 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:24:37am

#259 GODFREY

You aren't informed about the facts.

The assassins of Commissario Calabresi are actually SERVING a life sentence, after a very long trial.

Bompressi and Sofri, I mean. The third assassin run away from Italy many years ago and I don't think he ever came back.

Information on the Net about terrorist groups of the '70s and '80 is mainly offered by supporters and apologists.

Frame LC ?
There is no need to frame LC ! It was a commie organization about which I do know a lot and that had MANY armed groups inside.

277 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:24:45am

#265 E2M

Yeah,the problem with anti-matter is that it eats its container.

278 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:25:06am

#272 Carl in Jerusalem

East Jerusalem....:P

279 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:25:13am

godfrey,

LaTeX? Watch it, someone might think you're talking about prophylactics instead of something like $t_{4}-t_{3}$

280 godfrey  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:26:53am

Pions, kappons (neutered pions?)... who can keep track of subatomic particles these days? If no strings are attached, it's all just more or less probable.

Let's see some pie charts, dammit.

281 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:27:01am

Totally
NA NA NA! NOT LISTENING! NA NA NA NA!

282 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:28:04am

277 TotallySirius

Yeah,the problem with anti-matter is that it eats its container.

That's one problem. Another is that every air molecule that hits it makes it go poof! You can't pull a high enough vacuum to keep it from exploding from that.

283 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:28:36am

213 Peacekeeper 5/31/2006 11:55AM PDT

This antimatter shit is great. What they allow in the open is only a tiny piece of what they are doing at research centers like Los Alamos.

Very interesting research. The main challenge is the large cost in constructing an anti-matter factory, and the energy cost in running the accelerator to produce the anti-matter. I've been to CERN and it's a very cool place, if you are into that nerdy stuff.

Penning traps are devices for the storage of charged particles using a constant magnetic field and a constant electric field. This kind of trap is particularly well suited for precision measurements of properties of ions and stable subatomic particles which have electric charge. Recently this trap has been used in the physical realization of quantum computation and quantum information processing as well. Currently Penning traps are used at CERN to store antiprotons. Any form of antimatter propulsion for interplanetary voyages will probably use these traps for the same purpose. The invention of the Penning trap is attributed to Hans Georg Dehmelt who shared the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1989 for this work.

284 cjstavern  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:28:37am

So, I too can be a "Zionist" even though I'm agnostic, my mother is a Baptist, and my father was a Methodist? If so that's way cool!

285 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:28:44am

The former president said that this increased anxieties of the world community about the growing atmosphere of panic and violence.
"However, five years after the September 11 incident, the world feels a increased urge for dialogue and understanding.

"Today, the flame of dialogue and understanding, which was slightly on the verge of extinction, is again gaining momentum," added Khatami.

He said that the world public opinion has now realized that war is detrimental to all nations and that it is the duty of NGOs to engage in promoting peace and friendship.

"One of the threats facing Islam is the intention to attribute all violence and extremism going on in the community to Islam, while Islam is a religion which promotes kindness," he added.

On his return from a visit to Kuwait, Khatami made a brief stop-over in Shiraz, where he met a number of provincial men of culture, journalists and the educated.

(We must wipe Israel off the face of the earth....is kind?.)....The Koran the best hate book ever written. [Link: www.irna.ir...]

286 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:29:18am

KEGGER TONIGHT AT PION KAPPON HOUSE! WOOO-HOOO! LET'S GET ANNIHILATED!

287 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:29:27am

280 godfrey

who can keep track of subatomic particles these days?

Quark2.

288 ggt  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:29:58am

speaking of anti-anti-matter -- the children need the computer.

gotta go

have a great day all!

289 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:30:28am

286 Occasional Reader

LET'S GET ANNIHILATED!

I think OR's going 'splody on us......

290 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:30:31am

#280 godfrey

and don't forget "zions" the subatomic particle used in the Zionist mind control rays...

291 godfrey  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:31:13am

poitiers

I'm glad to hear it's merely my ignorance. Do you have a link? This is the first I've heard of the case, being a wee lad. I've only just discovered Linda Murri, mind you.

292 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:32:28am
In antimatter-matter collisions resulting in photon emission, the entire rest mass of the particles is converted to energy. The energy per unit mass is about 10 orders of magnitude greater than chemical energy, and about 2 orders of magnitude greater than nuclear energy that can be liberated today using nuclear fission or fusion. The reaction of 1 kg of antimatter with 1 kg of matter would produce 1.8×1017 J (180 petajoules) of energy (by the equation E=mc²). This is about 35 times as much energy as nuclear fusion of the same mass of hydrogen (fusion of two kg of hydrogen produces 5.2×1015 J), or as much energy as burning 6.2 billion liters (1.6 billion US gallon) of gasoline (the combustion of one liter of gasoline in oxygen produces 2.9×107 J).


Or about enough energy to drive your Hummer from NYC to Newark.

293 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:32:40am

Wrap your grey matter around this.....

E=MC^2

Matter is merely a state of energy,therefore there are only two truths in the universe;energy and vaccuum.

294 doppelganglander  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:33:51am

#243 OR:

AUNTIE IS FOR HUGGING

Except when she smells like mothballs and she gets that nasty Tangee orange lipstick all over you.

295 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:34:51am

271 TotallySirius

Neutrinos are one product of antimatter annihilations(most are produced by fusion reactions),the remainder are exotic short-lived tiny things like pions and kappons

kaons, not kappons

296 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:34:59am

#290 Kenneth

Ixnay on the ionzay.....

/Reuters is listening....

297 Sarah D.  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:35:06am

#198 Earth2moonbat

Sure he can. We can also to a limited extent.

298 godfrey  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:35:25am

Wu li

299 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:35:52am

Physics question for the physicists on the board -

Hawkings wrote in Brief History Of Time about how BlackHoles can shrink.

The basis for this theory I will summarize (and I don't have the book handy, so this is by memory) - matter/anti-matter pairs are constantly appearing and then disapperaing throught the universe.

At the event horizon of a black hole, when the anti-matter particle of the pair falls in and the matter particle does not, we have a matter particle floating around in space while the anit-matter particle ultimately collides and "takes out" a matter particle in the Black Hole, thereby making the black hole lose mass and, in turn, shrinking the event horizon.

So why are anti-matter particles any more likely to fall in than the matter particles of the pairs? If not more likely to fall in, then the effect of the anti-matter particles will be cancelled out by the matter particles of simillar pairs falling in at what should be the same rate.

300 Black George Bush  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:36:03am

hey Sarah baby hows it going!

301 GregInSeattle  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:36:54am

You need high-powered magnetic fields to contain anti matter. And a darn good vacuum.

302 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:37:02am

ISLAM....PEACE AND LOVE...BOMBS AND BULLITS.........."Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."

"Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations."

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land. As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

"If the West does not support Israel, this regime will be toppled. As it has lost its raison d' tre, Israel will be annihilated."

"Israel is a tyrannical regime that will one day will be destroyed."

"Israel is a rotten, dried tree that will be annihilated in one storm

303 LC LaWedgie  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:37:21am

#290 Kenneth -
The lions of Judah?

304 spanishpete  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:37:26am

the big bang, er where did the gas come from.
and what set it off, and what is nothing no light or dark, what does nothing look like.

305 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:37:43am

#297 Sarah D.

Maybe I didn't phrase that well. I know that technically he can, I just wonder if he's doing it. Maybe there's a reason not to talk about that.

306 godfrey  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:38:29am

zions

Are those the famed z particles, about whom I've read so little?

All I have to offer this thread is enthusiasm. Basic research into this stuff is great and deserves funding in perpetuity.

307 Tasty_Beverage  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:38:34am

Peacekeeper

I'm pretty sure they do the most (publically acknowledged) work on antimatter at Fermilab:

At Fermilab, we usually stack antiprotons for 16 hours before accelerating them and injecting them into our most powerful accelerator, the Tevatron. We routinely stack to 130E10 pbars in about 16 hours for each shot to the Tevatron. For 2003, we hope to increase this to 200E10 pbars in 16 hours.

Of course, per Occasional Reader's #224 above, those stats sound much more beautiful and poetic in the original Arabic.

LOL

308 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:39:25am

301 GregInSeattle

You need high-powered magnetic fields to contain anti matter. And a darn good vacuum.

Yeah. An Orick. None of those cheesy Hoovers.....

309 Silhouette  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:40:57am

#264 cjstavern

Forgive my ignorance but to these terrorist lovers does a "Zionist" have to be Jewish?

Of course, we know there is no need to be Jewish to support the existance of the Jewish state, but yes, I do think that for many, if not most of the terrorists and their supporters, the terms are synonymous.

Note in the quote posted by #29 nobs, the Zionist blogger is presumed to be from Israel, or at least consider her their mother.

Cheerleaders for mother Israel they are pathetic.
310 Super Jew  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:40:58am

#284 cjstavern

So, I too can be a "Zionist" even though I'm agnostic, my mother is a Baptist, and my father was a Methodist? If so that's way cool!

Absitively, CJ! If you support that idea that the Jews, as a nation, have the right to a state in their historic homeland, then you too are a Zionist. I have a word for non-Jewish Zionists: Sagacious - which, if I'm not mistaken, is a combination of "sage" and "tenacious". Or at least it should be.

311 Sarah D.  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:41:00am

Black George Bush! Hey gorgeous!

It's going, time flies. You making the BBQ this year?

312 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:41:05am

#299 KI

You are speaking of Hawking radiation.

The antimatter particles are attracted to the black hole because of the quirk of nature that opposites attract,there is a slightly greater pull on the anti particle than the matter twin.

The exact opposite is true in the case of anti-matter black holes.

Yes they exist.....theoretically,according to Hawking and Einstein,however there is no way to tell the difference from outside the event horizon...both behave exactly the same.

313 easy  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:41:16am

What about tachyons? They have those in Star Trek.

314 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:41:31am

3299 karmic_inquisitor

Interesting question. I will have to dust off my copy of ABHOT and check that. But on the outset, it doesn't make sense to me that anything would happen to the blackhole. The anti-matter particle would anhilate a matter particle inside the blackhole, releasing a huge amount of energy. But the energy would not excape the blackhole (nothing does) and since E=mc2, the mass of the black hole would increase by the mass (energy) of the anti-matter.

315 W-lover  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:41:48am

293 TS-

What about gravity?

316 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:42:00am

Karmic
You see, it's like this:


Hope that clears it up for you.

317 nobs  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:42:20am

From the original story comments at the bottom of the page.
[Link: commentisfree.guardian.co.uk...]

emillee
May 31, 2006 08:11 PM
No sorry Lopakhin my mistake. He doesn't work for Reuters. Which means he wouldn't have access to machines at Reuters, and which means he couldn't have been suspended.

So as Torguy said, enough already. It's a non-story whipped by racists.

[Offensive? Unsuitable? Report this comment.] parkie02
May 31, 2006 08:28 PM
Birmingham/gbr Emillee
1"Inayat does work at Reuters"

But now 2 "he doesn't work at Reuters"
and suddenly Emillee says that's enough.


This gets more and more interesting.

318 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:42:52am

#301 Greg:

And a darn good vacuum.

I've got this one. Would it do the job?

Of course, if you're building an anti-matter reactor to provide backup power to your Dyson Sphere (in case of, you know, blackouts), you'd do better with this vacuum.

319 Mike C.  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:42:53am

Great. We can't extract methane from known gas hydrate deposits, or even, for all practical purposes, oil from oil shale, and people are arguing matter/anti-matter reactions as an energy source.

320 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:43:25am

#291 Godfrey

Sorry, I have no link available.

I mean, this is history lived in the time of my life and witnessed daily with great horror and anxiety, you might say that I have an over-load of info...but it is stored in my brain...

you can read Italian, see today's web page of Il Corriere della Sera at

www.corriere.it

they have the story at the top of the page, there are linkies to other articles.

321 MarkX  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:43:33am

Zionist Agent 009


ALPHA FOXTROT TANGO. 78.7779.932.1

ALPHA FOXTROT TANGO. 78.7779.932.2

Excute.

31/05/06

BRAVO BRAVO ZULU. 78.7779.932.3

322 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:43:37am

All of this physics talk is great and really er stimulating, but the bottom line
How long before I have Warp drive back on line and can go to Warp 9 Scotty?

323 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:44:27am

SuperJew
Are you sure that Sagacious hasn't got something to do with being gay?*

* Not that there's anything wrong with that.

324 Black George Bush  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:44:34am

#311 Sarah D.
I will definately be there! Is it still going to be at the beach? Any updates?

325 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:44:45am

#306 godfrey

All I have to offer this thread is enthusiasm. Basic research into this stuff is great and deserves funding in perpetuity.

Amen to that. The funding that employed me in this field was just cut & I will be out of a job in 3 weeks. I'm seriously bummed out about that.

326 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:45:08am

#320 Mysel add-on

Of course, the Corriere is a leftist paper, so the language will be prudent...they love Cop-killers...

327 RepJ  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:45:27am

Charles,

It's the lawyers. They're preparing to sue.

328 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:45:36am

319 Mike C.

Great. We can't extract methane from known gas hydrate deposits, or even, for all practical purposes, oil from oil shale, and people are arguing matter/anti-matter reactions as an energy source.

Details, details......That's what you get paid to do. After all, if we can put a man on the moon.....[fill in the blank]......

329 MarkX  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:45:45am

* Excute =Execute

PIMF

Dammit. Plan ruined.


ABORT. ABORT.

330 kafir  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:45:56am

#23 Earth2moonbat

/high velocity coffee spray out of at least 2 facial orifaces ...

Gotta clean this up now dammit

331 godfrey  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:46:05am

poitiers

Thank you!

I'm beginning to know what you mean about the weight of accumulated history. When you see the usual suspects doing their thing over the course of several decades, in different guises, it must be maddening.

332 spanishpete  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:46:41am

How long before I have Warp drive back on line and can go to Warp 9 Scotty?

the die pissy pork crystals are shot captain,
i cannne only give ye impulse power

333 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:46:55am

313 easy

What about tachyons?

Oh, but they're so tachy!

334 Sarah D.  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:47:01am

#324 Black George Bush

I don't know, you know how 'Nam is - we'll find out at the last minute!

He is busy moving though. As am I (I hate packing).

335 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:47:12am

#313 easy

What about tachyons? They have those in Star Trek.

Tachyons are theorized to travel faster than light, but they have not yet been discovered.

336 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:48:33am

A tachyon is a theoretical particle that travels faster than light, and perhaps backwards in time.

A tampon is a joke, which, if told can release enormous amounts of negative energy from outraged women who see nothing funny about their special visitor.

337 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:48:36am

#315 W-luv

Einstein says gravity is one of the 4 fundamental forces(Elecro-magnetism,weak nuclear,strong nuclear and gravity).

Modern cosmologists say these forces are manifestations of vibrating super-strings or branes.

To me these all say gravity is a form of energy.

338 Sleipnir  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:49:03am

#261 Miss Trixie

Those all seem like excellent things to me. The only one that surprises me is cardinals in the bath. You didn't mean these guys did you?


Monty Python cardinals

339 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:49:52am

This is scary stuff: Deterring those who are already dead. (Why sanctions against Iran won't work).

340 ColoradoJim  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:50:02am

#247 - TS

Its been a while since I've had physics classes, but I think I remember the following:

Matter/anti-matter reactions do occur regularly in the process known as pair production. A high energy gamma photon passes near a heavy nucleus and part(or all) of its energy goes into producing an electron-positron pair (or pairs of heavier matter/anti-matter particles). The positron is the anti-matter equivalent of the electron. The position and electron (or some other electron) meet and mutually destroy (convert to pure energy) each other which produces a gamma photon. I think the minimum energy gamma needed for this is 1.02 Mev since the mass-energy equivalence for an electron (and thus for a positron) is 0.51 Mev and a pair of particles is always produced.

341 W-lover  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:50:56am

337 TS-

To me these all say gravity is a form of energy.

That's really heavy.

342 Mike C.  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:51:16am

# 328 E2m

Putting a man on the moon is/was easy. Now, how the hell do we get that methane out of those gas hydrate deposits ?

343 godfrey  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:51:25am

Speaking of death threats and particles, check out why driving in Switzerland is not all peace, love, and neutrality:

Falling Rocks

344 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:51:25am

O.K.....this seems to be the right time for this question...

Does light have mass?

If not, how can gravity bend its course?

345 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:51:46am

Give these people a state! reichlet!. Hamas enforcer: We are happy when any American soldier is killed anywhere in the world.

346 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:52:01am

Gravity I don't understand it, but if my last name was Kennedy I'd sure as hell watch out for it.

347 ColoradoJim  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:53:06am

Also, the above described pair production at 1.02 Mev would produce a particle pair with zero kinetic energy as all of the photon's energy went into the mass equivalence of the particles.

348 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:53:35am

Gravity warps space time and photons follow it. Duh.

349 Mrs. Right  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:54:12am

Pondering physics much longer will make our heads explode...the death threat realized...

STOP WITH THE PHYSICS! You're playing right into their hands.

350 spanishpete  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:54:18am

344
air contains moisture and acts as a prism as light goes thru it so gravity will affect it.
i think.

351 Boot Hill  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:54:24am

haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if this has been asked.

but anyone have any thoughts as to why Rueters isn't nipping this in the bud? If someone was sending death threats on my network I would have his a** in a sling quicker than you can spell IP. They are doing nothing but issuing a statement saying they are investigating. Then they say the an employee was suspended, but it wasn't an employee of the "reuters news division". They don't even try and distance themselves when they have the chance and say where the suspended employee works.

The simple thought of guilt by association SHOULD motivate these clowns to get off their a** and find out who was using the account to send this. The fact that they are not publicly going after the offender and putting as much distance between them and the offender tells a lot about them, their motives, and their news agency. The longer they let this slide, the more credibility they continue to lose.

Essentially they will wind up trying to dig their way out of a hole, then come back with the "oh that was so 10 minutes ago, lets move on now shall we?"

352 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:55:08am

#338 Sleipnir

"Cardinal Fang - the rack!"

353 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:56:25am

342 Mike C.

Putting a man on the moon is/was easy.

Testify! That's what I keep telling these idjits. I don't think JFK got out of bed one morning and decided to put a man on the moon. He committed to that only after talking to a lot of people who knew what they were doing, and concluding that it's doable, just a matter of working out some details. Very different from cold fusion, or dilithium crystals, or [fill in the free energy fad de jour]....

354 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:57:16am
#348 Peacekeeper 5/31/2006 12:53PM PDT
Gravity warps space time and photons follow it. Duh.


I'm reading this as a tongue-in-cheek comment ;)

but I've heard that said before and wondered how something that's not there (the vacuum of space) can be warped?....I'm thinking they really mean the path through space of anything with mass is altered (warped), but I'm just guessing....

355 javems  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:57:27am

#216 GregInSeattle

Re: Rush Show: The Lt. Colonel sounds a bit frustrated that he and his squad is being held back. I wonder what he thinks we should be doing that we aren't?

I don't know what he thinks, but I know what some folks have suggested. Considering the growing shit storm growing over Haditha, can you imagine what would happen if we "took the gloves off" as they suggest.
The US military goes out of their way to protect innocents, not to please the pentagon, but because they are honorable people and they think they are there to actually help the Iraqis. That is not going to change.

356 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:57:29am

At least the Reuters guy is going to have fun sorting out all this technobabble. Mark the intern?

357 ColoradoJim  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:57:35am

#344 - EO

Everyone - please correct me if I'm wrong.

Einstein's general relativity describes light's "bending" around a massive object more or less as:

A massive object/gravity field distorts the fabric of space-time around it. Light follows a straight line through the distortion. It is the distortion that "bends" the path of the light.

358 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:57:44am

We do, OTOH, know how to do Fischer-Tropsch. It's just a question of how long crude will be $70/bbl.

359 W-lover  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:57:48am

It's like Alice fell down the wormhole...

360 ibmkeyboard  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:58:14am

Mike C.

I used to drive a fng black hole around town.

It was a 1961 ford pickup and got 9-12 miles per gallon. Smoked like a burning tire and caused several old people to run off the road due to the global fog it created.
that matter/anti-matter shit aint worth the trouble.
give me that burn your nose black smoke and sun dimming pollution.

361 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:58:32am

#344 eschew_obfuscation

O.K.....this seems to be the right time for this question...

Does light have mass?

Yes, light has mass. Remember, E=mc2. That formula defines the amount of energy in a given quantity of mass, and written another way, m=E/c2, it defines the amount of mass in a given quantity of energy, for instance a photon of light.

That Einstein was one smart cookie.

362 jamgarr  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:58:50am

Riddle me this:

I've always heard that light is both a particle and a wave. So, consider a sun a billion light years away from an observer. It can be seen. Therefore, it can be seen from any point in the universe within that billion light year radius sphere. How can there be enough particles for that to be true?

363 David E  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:58:55am

Not quite totally sirius. If the black hole had a net negative charge when it formed positively charged would be attracked and visa versa. Hawkings assumed that his black hole would have a net positive charge (he was thinking in terms to stellar remnants, not black holes formed at the start of the universe). If our virtual pair is an electron-positron pair the electron would be more likely to fall into our remnant. And the anti-particle would escape. Since we are dealing with a quark soup regardless of what goes in, it would find something to disappear with.

And speaking of Kaons, a research team at Fermi Labs saw a time violating decay of K-long/K-short in 2000 (? bad memory). This was something I was looking for (under my advisor) in the 1970s. What this means is that time might (probably)only have one direction. No going back in time.

364 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:59:13am

Eschew
In case anybody hasn't caught on yet, I am bullshitting my way through this whole thing. that comment was tongue in cheek. :)

365 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:59:25am

#343 godfrey

In some of the pictures (like number 5), some of the rocks seem to be airborne.

366 Dirk Diggler  Wed, May 31, 2006 10:59:25am

Hypothetical situation. What if one were traveling at the speed of light in a car, say a Ford Escort, and one were to turn on the vehicle's headlights?

367 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:01:12am

#366 Dirk Diggler

Reminds me of a limerick where someone named Breen drove so fast that he "blue shifted the red lights to green".

368 Mrs. Right  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:01:30am

#366

One would illuminate the State Trooper vehicle clocking one with his radar gun.

369 got milk?  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:01:38am

realwest
I will send you an unoffical answer from home.

370 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:01:40am

357 ColoradoJim

A massive object/gravity field distorts the fabric of space-time around it. Light follows a straight line through the distortion. It is the distortion that "bends" the path of the light.

The light follows the shortest path through the curvature of space-time. In the presence of a large gravitaional field, that path is curved because space-time is curved. This was demonstrated experimently in 1920.

371 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:02:36am

#360 ibmkeyboard

A 1961? Was it a unibody? I think those are so cool.

372 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:02:58am

363 David E

What this means is that time might (probably)only have one direction. No going back in time.

But we already knew that from thermodynamics. So this is just a confirmation of what we already knew to be true. Right?

373 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:03:18am

#366 Dirk

You'd illuminate your butt?

:-)

374 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:03:51am

Particles only appear when you look at them, at other times they are waves. the act of observing affects the state of the thing observed. Freakish. A German physicist named Heisenberg determined that we could never know simultaneously where a particle was and what it was doing.

375 spanishpete  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:04:47am

all this knowledge and and we get tormented by flies every summer.

376 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:05:19am
377 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:05:28am

#370 Kenneth

Gravitational 'lensing' of light was proven by the Hubble space telescope.

There are some excellent pics of gravtational 'lensing' at the Hubble website.

378 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:05:40am

#316 Peacekeeper -

Damned funny! You ought to teach geography in Colorado!

379 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:05:45am

366 Dirk Diggler

Hypothetical situation. What if one were traveling at the speed of light in a car, say a Ford Escort, and one were to turn on the vehicle's headlights?

Aside from the fact that that's impossible, because nothing can move that fast, that was the whole problem with the Morley-Michelson experiment that led Einstein to develop relativity. The light from the moving object still traveled at the speed of light. Didn't matter how fast the object was moving.

380 JEGjr  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:06:14am

"You don't pull on Superman's cape.
You don't spiiiitinto the wind.
You don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger.
And you don't mess around with.... Charles?

381 Mike C.  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:06:25am

# 366 D D

If one were travelling at the speed of light in a Ford Escort, one would have had to have driven it off a very tall cliff indeed. Of course, it's all relaive, so to speak.

382 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:06:27am
383 jamgarr  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:06:50am

#374 PK

I don't think Heisenberg means that the particles aren't there if they aren't being observed. Any other basis for your comment that the particles aren't there until you look at them?

384 ColoradoJim  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:07:10am

#370 - Kenneth

Thanks. Was that the experiment done during a solar eclipse?


There once was a man from Wright
Who could go faster than the speed of light
He left one day
In a relative way
And returned on the previous night.

385 godfrey  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:07:11am

poitiers

BERTINOTTI (PRC) - «E' una buona natizia che parla a favore di una possibile rinascita di una nuova civiltà giuridica del Paese."

I think I'm going to throw up.

386 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:07:51am

Dirk
To you the light would act normally, to an observer a relative zero acceleration the light would act normally and you would be moving quickly behind it.
Thing is you would experience time as passing much more slowly than the observer.

387 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:07:56am

#374 PK

The Heisenbeg Uncertainty Principle also states that you can measure the velocity/vector of a particle or you can determine the position of a particle but not both.

388 javems  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:08:35am
that we could never know simultaneously where a particle was and what it was doing.


Sounds like my ex-wife.

389 spanishpete  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:08:44am

lol ford escort-the clutch would go before you got to 50mph.

390 ibmkeyboard  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:08:57am
#360 ibmkeyboard

A 1961? Was it a unibody? I think those are so cool.

Yeah,
Pretty truck,
but I was showing my butt and streched the motor.
80 miles an hour in 2 gear will loosen a crank shaft.

391 journeyscarab  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:09:33am

(_*_)

From the Zionist Underground.

392 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:09:43am

#339 Carl in Jerusalem

This is scary stuff: Deterring those who are already dead. (Why sanctions against Iran won't work).

That is one of the most chilling articles I have read in a long time. Absolutely horrifying.

The only thing sanctions can do is possibly slow down Iran's drive to nuclear weapons. If that provides enough time for opposition groups to overthrow the mullahs, so much the better. But if it lulls the world into a false sense of security, that we are doing all that we can, then sanctions are futile and dangerous.

393 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:09:50am

#331 Godfrey

When you see the usual suspects doing their thing over the course of several decades, in different guises, it must be maddening.

Maddening is the right word.

And watching the left today, while it brainwashes another generation with its lies, is the worst part.

BUT WE HAVE THE NET NOW !

394 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:09:54am

Jamgarr I'll look it up.

395 Mike C.  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:10:12am

On the other hand, if your Ford Escort was travelling at the speed of light, it's mass should be damned near infinite. In other words, you would BE the universe. So where are you going ?

396 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:11:21am

#370 Kenneth 5/31/2006 01:01PM PDT
357 ColoradoJim

A massive object/gravity field distorts the fabric of space-time around it. Light follows a straight line through the distortion. It is the distortion that "bends" the path of the light.

The light follows the shortest path through the curvature of space-time. In the presence of a large gravitaional field, that path is curved because space-time is curved. This was demonstrated experimently in 1920.


O.K....

I hear the words that are comming out of your mouth....

BUT

1) Time (in my feeble mind) is the relationship between events

and
2) There's a whole lot of nothing in space

How do you bend time and nothing? (I know there is mass in space....planets & stuff)

Are we not just talking about altering the path of light (which allows us to observe events) and mass around a gravitational field?

Forgive me if this seems pedantic.....I like physics but never intuitively understood the language.

397 jamgarr  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:11:44am

#394 PK

Only if it really interests you

398 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:13:31am

Oh yeah, that explains it:

A fundamental consequence of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle is that no physical phenomena can be to arbitrary accuracy described as a "classic point particle" or as a wave but rather the microphysical situation is best described in terms of wave-particle duality. The uncertainty principle, as initially considered by Heisenberg, is concerned with cases in which neither the wave nor the point particle descriptions are fully and exclusively appropriate, such as a particle in a box with a particular energy value. Such systems are characterized neither by one unique "position" (one particular value of distance from a potential wall) nor by one unique value of momentum (including its direction). Any observation that determines either a position or a momentum of such a waveparticle to arbitrary accuracy - known as wavefunction collapse - is subject to the condition that the width of the wavefunction collapse in position, multiplied by the width of the wavefunction collapse in momentum, is constrained by the principle to be greater than or equal to Planck's constant divided by 4π.

399 locutus  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:14:09am

Kudos on the "Mate1" ad on the right side of the main page today.

400 goodbye_natalie  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:14:18am

Do Zions carry a positive or negative charge? That is the question we must all ask ourselves.

401 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:14:52am

#312 TotallySirius -

OK - so what force is it that drives the "opposite attracts" to the point that the opposite in the black hole (highly concentrated matter in collapse) attracts the anti-matter particle more than does the local matter particle of the pair *and* not attract the matter particle of the pair (which the mass of the black hole is pulling very hard on)? (how is that for a run-on sentence?)

It seems that the forces we are dealing with are huge to pull the two away from each other, and the gravity pull on that matter particle is pretty huge when it is sitting on that event horizon. The force on that anti-matter particle must be bigger, correct?

Sorry for my ignorance, but this has always bugged me a bit.

402 Rearden Steel  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:14:54am

#388 javems

LOL! G-d mine too till she left her email account up one night.

403 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:15:00am

#385 Godfrey

Thank you.
I will throw up too, if you don't mind.

"A new judicial civilization", says that son of [DELETED], speaking of a presidential pardon to bloody assassins.

I frigging HAVE an article of Sofri were he SAYS he did it, in very NUANCED words, of course.

Because in the frigging leftist culture the assassins are "nuanced".

Even The Swimmer, he is so nuanced...

404 ibmkeyboard  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:15:22am
On the other hand, if your Ford Escort was travelling at the speed of light, it's mass should be damned near infinite. In other words, you would BE the universe. So where are you going ?

lol
to the planet Zotar.
Long long ago and far far away.

405 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:15:32am

#398 Peacekeeper

That's the Copenhagen interpretation. There are other interpretations, such as the multiverse. I think that one explains moonbats better.

406 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:15:38am

#395 Mike

You're energy requirement would be nearly infinite also,so you would have to burn the universe to produce enough energy to get your Escort up to C.

So you'd have nowhere left to go to.

407 goodbye_natalie  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:15:43am

My favorite Star Trek weapon of all time?

The light photon torpedo...

408 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:16:17am

pimf

You're=Your

409 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:16:20am

#400 goodbye_natalie 5/31/2006 01:14PM PDT
Do Zions carry a positive or negative charge? That is the question we must all ask ourselves.


Zions are positively charged

Splodons are negatively charged

When they meet, splodons self destruct, sometimes destroying the zions with which they collide.

410 elBarto  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:16:51am

Dirk - the passenger in the car would experience teh light moving away at the speed of light. An observer outside the Escort would observer the light from the Escort going the same speed as the escort. Its all relative.

411 goodbye_natalie  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:16:54am

It's all relative...

412 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:17:01am

Totally
Well put. that touches on the wavefunction business. The particle is a particle that can exist at several probable points (described by a wave) but actually observing collapses the probability wave.

413 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:17:52am

406 TotallySirius 5

You're energy requirement would be nearly infinite also,so you would have to burn the universe to produce enough energy to get your Escort up to C.

No, it would be infinite. There wouldn't be enough. Period.

414 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:18:11am
At the event horizon of a black hole, when the anti-matter particle of the pair falls in and the matter particle does not, we have a matter particle floating around in space while the anit-matter particle ultimately collides and "takes out" a matter particle in the Black Hole, thereby making the black hole lose mass and, in turn, shrinking the event horizon.

Not exactly. Either particle can fall in. However, these virtual particle-antiparticle pairs violate conservation of energy, which is OK if they do it for a very short time (based on the Heisenberg uncertainty principle - delta E times delta T less than h) If neither particle is swallowed by the black hole, they will annihilate and disappear. However if one particle disappears, the other one can't disappear, so its energy has to come from somewhere, which is the black hole.

All this so that black holes can have a temperature and still satisfy the laws of thermodynamics.

415 elBarto  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:18:47am

Wow from death threats to physics in under 500 posts.

416 TotallySirius  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:19:29am

#407 g_n

The Trilithium Stellar Neutralizer(shuts down all fusion within a star) from STtNG movie "Generations"

417 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:19:34am

#384 ColoradoJim

Yes, the observed the position of a star which was passing behind the solar eclipse, and as the light was bent around the sun, the star appeared to be in a different location than shopuld be predicted from its orbit. THe eclipse was in May 29, 1919 and the results of the experiment were announce in November of the same year.

#387 TotallySirius

The Heisenbeg Uncertainty Principle also states that you can measure the velocity/vector of a particle or you can determine the position of a particle but not both.

the vector or the mass, but not both

418 goodbye_natalie  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:20:01am

Are Jews the Charmed part of Quarks? I know that the Muslims consist of both the strange and down properties...

419 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:20:01am
#415 elBarto 5/31/2006 01:18PM PDT
Wow from death threats to physics in under 500 posts.


Ain't LGF grand!

420 Alouette  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:20:52am

Bunga walla!
Bunga bunga bunga walla....

I can't stop this feeling
Deep inside of me.
LGF, you just don't realize
What you do to me.
When you scold me
On your blog so cool
You let me know,
I'm a moonbat fool, ahahah

I'm hooked on a jihad
I'm high on believing,
Soon your pig blood will flow

Islamophobic lizards,
They really make me cry.
I can't wait until the day
Those f***ing Jews all die.

I want to kill a lizard,
But I don't have the balls,
I'll just stay connected,
from the Reuters firewall

All the clickthroughs, that I send your blog
You see them all, yeah they're in your log.

I'mmm, I'mmm Hooked on a feeling.
I'm high on believing that your pig blood will flow.
All the clickthroughs, that I send your blog
You see them all, yeah they're in your log.

Allah, I'm hooked on a jihad
I'm high on believing,
Soon your pig blood will flow.

I'm hooked on a jihad
I'm high on believing,
Soon your pig blood will flow.

I say I'm hooked on a jihad
And I'm high on believing,
Soon your pig blood will flow.
I'm hooked on a feeling.

Bunga walla
Bunga bunga bunga walla

421 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:21:21am

Earth2Moonbat
Multiverse means the damn lil' bastid is everywhere doing everything. All possible outcomes occuring in parallel dimensions. Did you really want to go there?

422 goodbye_natalie  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:21:32am

Totally,

One of my all time favorites. Jean Luc gets laid about the same time...maybe the only time.

423 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:22:06am

#347 ColoradoJim

Also, the above described pair production at 1.02 Mev would produce a particle pair with zero kinetic energy as all of the photon's energy went into the mass equivalence of the particles.


C'mon now tell me you just made that up.
I ain't following all of this rocket science stuff anyway and reading it is giving me a headache.

424 Dirk Diggler  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:22:40am

On the other hand, if your Ford Escort was travelling at the speed of light, it's mass should be damned near infinite. In other words, you would BE the universe. So where are you going?

You're energy requirement would be nearly infinite also,so you would have to burn the universe to produce enough energy to get your Escort up to C.

Ohhhh man this is starting to give me a headache. Can we talk about boobs now?

425 kafir  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:23:03am

#307 Tasty_Beverage

This is a measure of the momentum of the antiproton beam. In a strictly Newtonian universe, p = mv, so as v approaches c, the only way to increase p is to increase m, which can be done by collecting more antiprotons in the storage ring.

#312 TotallySirius

I was unaware that experiments had turned up any asymmetry with respect to mass/force upon antimatter as compared to regular matter. Last I heard (10+ years ago when I used to do this sorta stuff for a living), the proton/antiproton had the same mass to within experimental resolution (reasonably good). If you have a reference otherwise, I would love to catch up on newer results. Gave up my APS membership some years ago, wasn't using it any more.

#299 karmic_inquisitor

Would you settle for an ex-physicist?

Ok, in a nutshell it is all about energy balance. Near the event horizon (difficult concept in warped spacetime, in terms of what we mean "near" something that is asymptotically approachable) you have several processes going on that also go on in "normal space". Basically think of space as this large set of "virtual photons" that form positron-electron pairs and recombine and vanish. These photons have less than the pair creation energy, so we cannot observe them (poor way to explain it, really we need to invoke the Heisenberg uncertainty principle which says we can violate energy conservation as long as we cannot observe that we do so, as the violation time is shorter than our ability to make a measurment).

Now, throughout space-time we have these virtual photons (before you start guffawing about this, read up on the Casimir effect), which has lots of interesting side effects of its own. Right at the surface of event horizon (difficult concept, bear with me) you have a virtual photon form a virtual electron-positron pair. Since the photon energy was less than 1.022 MeV, this virtual pair has to disappear in a time shorter than hbar/1.022 or you can observe it, and that means that you need to balance the energy coming from somewhere.

Ok. Now we form this virtual pair at the event horizon. One of the positron/electron falls into the event horizon, one stays above it. This means they cannot annhilate each other and reform that virtual photon. You now have a real particle "spontaneously" coming into existance just above the event hoizon.

This means that at least 1.022 MeV must have come from somewhere. That somewhere is the huge black hole. To balance the energy, you need the black hole to lose the energy which is now tied up in that free particle and its pair.

This is basically a cooling process, sometimes even called an "evaporation" process. Granted, one electron-positron pair isn't going to do much to cool a 1B degree object, but if you get enough of them, thats another story.

Before you worry that the new electron or positron is going to fall into this hole, just remember that charged/spinning black holes set up ferocious by stellar standards, magnetic fields that are rapidly changing. This means that the particle gets a hefty push. In fact one indirect way to look for black holes is to find Bremstrahlung or synchrotron radiation and work backwards to the source.

Neat stuff aint it.

426 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:23:08am

Man, the LLLs and the muslims are getting a headache today from LGF.

Maybe they learn something.

But of course we are a bunch of ignorant rabid racists and nothing else...

427 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:23:27am
#415 elBarto 5/31/2006 01:18PM PDT
Wow from death threats to physics in under 500 posts.


For some of us there ain't no difference.

428 goodbye_natalie  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:24:03am

Twinkle, twinkle little star
Power equal I2R

429 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:24:05am

What it all comes down to is:

What do women want?

430 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:24:22am

Boobs have been known to alter the path of neurons in men's heads....

431 ChicagoBlue  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:24:51am

Just_A_Grunt ~

For some of us there ain't no difference.

LOL! I hear ya!

432 Dirk Diggler  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:25:06am

Since we've started talking about physics all the women have bailed on this thread.

433 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:25:15am

356 Peacekeeper

At least the Reuters guy is going to have fun sorting out all this technobabble.


Let's see if it makes it into new Iranian superweapon announcements next week.

434 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:27:17am

Well I hope this helps realwest out with the problem she was having with her pooter and the XP issues she was having.

435 goodbye_natalie  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:29:13am

Load = Boob2 * gravity

436 Killer Tomato  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:29:24am

um... ah... (tries to think of something intelligent to say that's pertinent...)

No matter where you go, there you are.

437 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:29:32am

#396 eschew_obfuscation

How do you bend time and nothing? (I know there is mass in space....planets & stuff)

Einstein's theory of Special Relativity defines the equivalence of space and time, or space-time. In his theory of General Relativity, Eistein explained how gravity distorts the fabric of space-time creating the curvature of the universe.

438 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:30:18am

I think the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle has screwed up much of the 20th century.

It is a simple idea - the means by which you observe the particles affects the particles.

We most commonly observe things by bouncing light off of them. When you get down to such small particles, you change the position / velocity of the particle by bouncing a photon off of it (when you use a flashlight, you are bouncing photons off of whatever you are pointing it at).

So Heisenberg introduced good old matrix math to come up with "matrix mechanics". By running many observations one could essentially use statistics to tell you what the particle behaviour is that you are looking for. Simple, right?

Well, statistics require you to account for uncertainty.

Weirdos in the 20th century (philosophers, playrights, marxists and english professors) extrapolated this into bizzare ideas like "a butterfly in china can cause a hurricane in Louisianna" and such garbage.

Just because you can't directly observe it doesn't mean it isn't/didn't happen (unless you are on the OJ jury).

The death of rationality - unintended consequence of the HUP.

439 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:32:16am

#437 Kenneth

I think the question was, if an area of space is empty, and there's no ether, what's there to bend?

440 filter  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:32:27am

To Reuters, from a wannabe Zionist in Amsterdam.

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441 billhedrick  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:33:07am

Light has mass?
I didn't even know it was Catholic

Ba-dum dum

442 goodbye_natalie  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:33:43am

#436 Killer Tomato,

No matter where you go, there you are.


I see you've been reading up on the new L3 physics written by Al Gore?

443 ChicagoBlue  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:35:25am

#438 karmic ~

It is a simple idea - the means by which you observe the particles affects the particles.

Aha! I remember my husband explaining this once and I just couldn't get past the picture in my head, that he was saying the particles would act differently if they knew we were looking at them!

444 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:38:03am
445 Killer Tomato  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:38:10am

#442 goodbye_natalie

Al Gore wrote a book on physics?
Was that before or after he invented the internet? The man never ceases to astound me.

446 rabidsquirrel  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:38:30am

#415 elBarto:

Wow from death threats to physics in under 500 posts.

Is it just me (and apparently Just_A_Grunt), or is anyone else suddenly nostalgic for death threats?

447 kafir  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:38:35am

#437 Kenneth

What was neat to me during my relativity class in grad school was that if you simply place this little scale factor in front of the time, you can treat special relativity transformations as a 4 dimensional rotation ...

Its when we started hauling out the full machinery of GR and deSitter universes/metrics that things got complex. Full GR are 10 coupled non-linear differential equations that you can solve only in specific cases (as I remember, its been a while...) that generally made my eyes roll back into my head ...

448 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:38:49am

If you tell someone there are billons and billons of stars they will believe you with no questions
Tell them there is wet paint on the wall and they will touch it to find out
Either Carl Sagan or George Carlin

449 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:38:53am
#439 Earth2moonbat 5/31/2006 01:32PM PDT
#437 Kenneth

I think the question was, if an area of space is empty, and there's no ether, what's there to bend?


Exactly....the 'fabric' has to be made up of something.....even if only the paths of mass.

I loosely understand some of the effects of warping space-time.....just not what is being warped.

450 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:38:54am

#438 karmic_inquisitor

And they're also extrapolated relativity far beyond it's scope of applicibility into moral relativism and such. I think that the non-scientists have a severe case of envy for the scientists, and out of that envy, have tried to import 20th century physical concepts into art and philosophy and social science, with absurd and disasterous results. They're trying to play Einstein. They ain't Einsteins.

Here's a little critique along those lines. Note how a real physicist looks with disdain at these dillitante quantum mechanics.

451 W-lover  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:39:17am

440 filter-

Nice!

452 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:40:02am

#439 Earth2moonbat

I think the question was, if an area of space is empty, and there's no ether, what's there to bend?

Oh, right. The curvature is greatest where ever the gravitational field is greatest: near stars, black holes, etc. The curvature is less in empty space. The combined mass of all the galaxies adds an overall curvature to the whole of the universe.

A metaphor often used to describe spacetime curvature is to have a taught rubber sheet with balls of various size & weight on it. The rubber sheet will curve more around the heavier objects, less around the smaller objects.

453 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:41:34am

#449 eschew_obfuscation

And I believe that the answer is that what gets bent is the path that matter would take if it were there. In other words, nothing happens to a vacuum.

454 friarstale  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:42:01am

y'know...
there's a chance LGF is enlightening some of the Reuters visitors
not the Muslims, of course, who know they are lying taqqiya-ers (if that's a word)but the western libs who just might be sitting on the fence, wondering what all the head chopping is all about anyway...

come on, Humpty Libby
fall in to the death cult watch
add LGF to your favorite sites

455 spanishpete  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:42:10am

big ford escort rubber cam belt snapping and bending the valves in the head is ripping us off.

456 Beagle  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:42:10am

#439 E2m

I think the question was, if an area of space is empty, and there's no ether, what's there to bend?


The fabric of space-time, quantum foam, dark energy?

/Throwing darts, hoping something will stick.

457 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:42:18am

E=Mc Hawking, A brief histroy of rhyme...
Yo, this one goes out to all you punk
bitches who think the Hawkman is soft
just because I'm wicked smart.
Listen up, I got something to say.

Straight out of Oxford a crazy motherfucker named Hawking.
When I be rocking the mic you be gawking,
at me 'cause I'm a bad mama-jamma,
you wanna lock me up put my ass in the slamma.
But fuck that shit 'cause no jail can hold me,
you can't even catch me much less control me.
So if you see me coming you better duck,
'cause Stephen Hawking is crazy as f*ck.

458 Render  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:43:56am

Just to point out that this nut in the Great Zionist Machine isn't powered by a hemi.

It's a Windsor. R-Code GT-40 351ci thank you very much. All engine, no power adders.

If we were talking about a real Hemi (426ci), I wouldn't say anything. But these modern "hemis"...Not.

I usually turn the lights on when I'm speeding.

USUALLY,
R

459 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:44:38am

#453 Earth2moonbat 5/31/2006 01:41PM PDT
#449 eschew_obfuscation

And I believe that the answer is that what gets bent is the path that matter would take if it were there. In other words, nothing happens to a vacuum.


And if you're right, I understand the concept and wonder why something like that is never said?

460 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:46:05am

452 Kenneth

You're correct, but I think that what's confusing is that people confuse the rubber sheet with the ether. Not at all the same thing. And ether isn't necessary for massive bodies to have an influence on each other. The rubber sheet is just a mental model, and doesn't imply an ether or fabric of space.

461 WriterMom  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:46:19am

#440 filter

CLASSIC!

You're in da club, man.

/Zionista out

462 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:46:44am

If the universe is expanding, what's it expanding into?

/Gordon, ACLU thread o'clock

463 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:47:39am

#447 kafir

I'm not a physicist, I only work with them. I love the concepts, but my eyes glaze over when they start with the heavy math.

#450 Earth2moonbat

Interesting link. Einstien preferred the term "invariance" to relativity, which has the opposite implication: the laws of physics apply everywhere throughout the universe. Extrapolated to the realm of morality, the moral relativist are in conflict with the invariant laws of nature.

464 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:47:47am

#458 Render

Uhh.......I'm rather partial to Cadillac 500s, TYVM.....

465 formercorpsman  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:47:54am

#458

I'll take the blame for that.

Babazee ran with that from another thread.

Reading the posts just put in my mind, the guy from the commerical who is daydreaming about the hemi.

466 ColoradoJim  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:49:16am

#423 Just_a_Grunt

Naw, if I made it up I would say something more like:

Reroute warp drive control through the EPS power conduits.

or

Flush the transporter pattern buffers through the Heisenberg compensators.

:)


I'm a bit pusher(Software Engineer)now but I did a tour in the Navy as a submarine nuclear plant operator in a previous life.

467 FlyingTigress  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:49:35am

#247

At this monent there are hundreds of billions of high energy sub-atomic particles passing through your bodies.....and you didn't even notice.

It's the infamous "un-covered women" hair rays.

Gotta be.

later dudes! out to catch some rays!

468 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:49:51am

Almost time to go home. I really wish I could say I learned something today, but sadly I can't because I didn't understand a single frickin frackin word that has been posted.
/maybe I'll find a Holiday Inn® to stay in tonight.

469 jamgarr  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:50:25am

Eddie's in the stream of time

470 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:50:25am

#460 Earth2moonbat

The rubber sheet is a metaphor for the spacetime of the universe.

#462 Killian Bundy

If the universe is expanding, what's it expanding into?

The whole of spacetime is expanding, carrying the universe with it. There is nothing, not even empty space into which the universe is expanding.

471 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:50:48am

463 Kenneth

Interesting link. Einstien preferred the term "invariance" to relativity, which has the opposite implication: the laws of physics apply everywhere throughout the universe.

Relativity isn't a very good term. He simply discovered that the things we thought were absolute (time, space, and mass) were relative, and something else that we assumed was relative (the speed of light) was actually a fixed fundamental physical constant. It isn't that everything was relative, it was that we had the wrong ones as relative.

472 formercorpsman  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:51:04am

#468

Yeah, but at least we know how to roll up our sleeves.

473 easy  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:52:06am

#398 Peackeeper

Oh yeah, that explains it:

That is why the invented the compensator, because of the uncertainty of it all.

474 piglet  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:52:07am
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go 'round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.

The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

475 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:52:15am

#467 FlyingTigress

later dudes! out to catch some rays!

Liar! It's overcast in Tacoma right now. Or are you on vacation? Or was that hair rays?

476 Beagle  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:52:29am

#470 Kenneth

There is nothing, not even empty space into which the universe is expanding.


Thereby creating something from less than nothing at close to the speed of light, and increasing.

477 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:53:55am
#468 Just_A_Grunt 5/31/2006 01:49PM PDT
Almost time to go home. I really wish I could say I learned something today, but sadly I can't because I didn't understand a single frickin frackin word that has been posted.
/maybe I'll find a Holiday Inn® to stay in tonight.


ROTFLOL!

478 Beagle  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:54:56am

Space-time is something. It's quantum foam, by the latest theories anyway.

479 Dustoff-507  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:55:52am

#472 Formercorpsman


Hey Medic, welcome to our group! (-:

480 FlyingTigress  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:55:52am

#436

um... ah... (tries to think of something intelligent to say that's pertinent...)

No matter where you go, there you are.

Buckaroo!

(The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai: Across the Eighth Dimension. One of the great cult movies of the last 30 years)

/looking for Lord Worfin, John Smallberries, John Bigboote, John O'Connor.... at Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems

481 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:56:31am

478 Beagle

quantum foam,

That's what they use for insulation on old Volkswagens, I think....

482 Nordish12  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:56:51am

Michelle Malkin's now reporting on this too:

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

483 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:57:19am

And then there's String Theory.

/more dimensions than you can shake a stick at

484 Kenneth  Wed, May 31, 2006 11:57:27am

It's been fun, but I gotta run.

Bye now.

485 EW1(SG)  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:00:03pm

#319 Mike C.:

...and people are arguing matter/anti-matter reactions as an energy source.

I wouldn't worry too much about it.

We're much likely to develop practical shale oil extraction long before anybody explains baryon asymmetry in the universe, or for that (anti)matter, observes antinuclei in the wild.

486 neoconundrum  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:00:22pm

Blue Chip -

Thank you for the belly laugh!

Ouch!

487 formercorpsman  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:00:47pm

thanks #479.

Corps?

488 Dustoff-507  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:03:29pm

#487 Former


Corps?


Did I get it wrong? You Navy guys, always doing things different. (-:

489 FlyingTigress  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:04:10pm

#475

This SWAP (SWedish-American Princess) is vacationing in the correctly-identified overcast metropolis of Tacoma, WA this day....

But her Zionist-sympathizing hair rays know no bounds!

490 Beagle  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:06:36pm

#485 EW1(SG)

observes antinuclei in the wild


It's a little nippah. But isn't she a beauty?

491 formercorpsman  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:07:06pm

No problem brother, it's all good.

Numerous Army in my family.

492 FlyingTigress  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:08:59pm

My #489

Also referred to as a SCAMP (SCandinavian-AMerican Princess), and, once identified as the youngest of the Grandma L's "Scandinavian Mafia".

Well, at least those are the printable identifiers that have been applied to me over the years... LOL

493 easy  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:09:19pm

#478 Beagle

Is the fabric of the Universe a seething mass of black holes and wormholes?


Now you've got the whole universe seething!

494 Dustoff-507  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:09:28pm

#491 Former

Thanks, were all Family here.

You must be new to LGF? Or I just haven't seen you.

495 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:10:44pm

#425 kafir -

Thanks for the explanation.

Am I correct to infer that it does not matter which of the pair falls in, so long as one does and one doesn't?

I have been hung up on my (mis?)understanding that it is one type of the pair (the anti-matter particle, as I remember it from the book) that fell in in order to facilitate the "cooling" / radiation.

496 formercorpsman  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:11:16pm

I guess almost a month now, who the hell knows.

Sure is fun so far.

Brother was a Ranger.

497 Render  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:12:07pm

#464 E2M

It's hard to argue with 500ci. Ever heard of a guy named Jeff Schwartz?


LINKIE!,
R

498 Render  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:13:51pm

pimf?

ARGH! My linkie didn't work :(

www.schwartzperformance.com

Home of the 10 second Caddie.

DRAWING
BOARD,
R

499 Dustoff-507  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:14:40pm

#496 Former

Brother was a Ranger.

That took some hard training.

My father was a B-17 pilot, he wasn't happy went I went into Helos.
To low and slow for him. LOL

500 Shaken  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:14:41pm

Do we all notice how the Islamofascists have become emboldened in their rhetoric and belligerence?

Our death threat pal(s) semi-hiding over at publicly-traded Reuters are a case in point.

I harbor little doubt that the West will eventually be forced, reluctantly, into an all-out conflict, as this bravado gathers momentum to arrive finally at an insult to west that while potentially devastating, fortunately finally awakens the Dhimmi multitude. It will be a point of no return.

I've had a peaceful and productive life in the west so far, raising a decent, gentle family of which I am proud. I don't hunt, I don't own a gun, I don't particularly like Nascar.

But I will doff my shirt and die to fight the Islamic baboons. And if I die in the process, it will be for a worthy cause for humanity and for the future of my family.

Let the Reuters rodents utter their filth. It will bring the necessary conflict to a head sooner than later. There will be no peace with the deranged cult of Islam. Only a fool could believe so.

One simple snivelling cowardly dweeb tucked away in a Reuters office safely sneering his death threats and then obsessing over their effect resonates the true meaning of the expression... "let's roll".

501 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:15:28pm

BTW - thanks to Kenneth, Sirius, Killian, E2M and others who have helped out with explanations.

And sorry to the board for turning this thread into a PBS/Cosmos re-run.

I wonder what the Reuters employees will think when they read all of this? My guess: "Today's right wingers are obsessed with particle physics - just look at the Mullahs in Iran!"

502 rayra[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:15:29pm
503 Shaken  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:15:31pm

oops, shirt and tie, not shirt and die...

504 locutus  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:15:37pm

Vaguely remembering all of the physics and engineering math that I learned for my BSEE, and then quickly forgot.

505 Dustoff-507  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:16:42pm

OOPS


happy wentwhen I went

506 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:17:36pm

Hebron: Palestinian arrested for attacking soldier at checkpoint

IDF troops late Wednesday evening arrested a Palestinian who attacked a soldier at a checkpoint in the West Bank city of Hebron, the army said.


The man refused to be searched by soldiers and attempted to steel a soldier's weapon. No one was injured in the attack. The man was remanded for interrogation. (Efrat Weiss)

LET ME FIX THIS FOR REUTERS......IDF troops today attacked an unarmed Palestinian today who was on his knees praying and never saw them comming.....there...all better for Reuters.

507 formercorpsman  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:17:41pm

Dustoff

Southeast Asia?

508 Dustoff-507  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:20:13pm

#507 Former


Southeast Asia?

For me yes, my father was in WWII

509 formercorpsman  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:20:47pm

Gotta go, baseball.

Methinks me late.

Later tonight hopefully.

510 FlyingTigress  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:21:20pm

#414

At the event horizon of a black hole, when the anti-matter particle of the pair falls in and the matter particle does not, we have a matter particle floating around in space while the anit-matter particle ultimately collides and "takes out" a matter particle in the Black Hole, thereby making the black hole lose mass and, in turn, shrinking the event horizon.

The only thing I want to know is, if I play a cartridge of Johnny Cash "Walk the Line" in my SA-43 Endo/Exo-Atmospheric Attack Jet (Hammerhead) when I drift towards the event horizon, will I be listening to it for an infinite amount of time?

"Easy as pancakes"

/Col. Ray "Kicking Butts" Butts, USMC

(obscure 1-season TV series reference)

511 david e  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:41:01pm

Re: High energy physics, remember, we are the dumb ones, at least in "reality based" circles.

512 Nordish12  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:41:21pm

2003 BBC interview with Bunglawala:

" ... this argument of impatience is not applied to the case of Israel. As I've repeatedly said, Israel is in occupation - illegal occupation - of the land of another people for 35 years. Saddam Hussein is not occupying anybody else's land. Why are we not impatient when it comes to Israel, if when it comes to Iraq we demand to send the bombers in? "

513 wordwarp  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:55:50pm

Speaking of big media who aren't just against the war, they're on the other side...

Bummer Dietz notes that the Los Angles Times is disclosing American troop movements on Page 1.

Suitable posters that may be in need of reprinting, here.

514 storagemanager  Wed, May 31, 2006 12:56:49pm

Hey Reuters...Why dont you even print these stories.......Would-be Suicide bomber leaves Islam
by Mahmood

29 March, 2006

The mind is its own place, and can make of itself a hell or a heaven"

Just six months ago I was another person. Today I can stand on my feet and call myself a free man. Then it was darkness, today it is light. I am overwhelmed with gratitude. Then I would have bowed down to the Demonic Allah.

TODAY I BOW DOWN TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME.
[Link: www.islam-watch.org...]

515 Gabba Gabba Hey  Wed, May 31, 2006 1:17:27pm

Reuters is visiting? Yikes! I better put on my good pajamas.

516 daughter of patriots  Wed, May 31, 2006 1:41:15pm

# 512

Nordish, wow, Inayat Bunglawala is not so easy on the eyes now, is he? Poor thing.

517 rayra[deleted]  Wed, May 31, 2006 1:47:53pm
518 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 31, 2006 1:52:50pm

Information from the enemy...

Any half decent reporter would have taken no more than a few minutes to find out that a) Bunglawala IS a Reuters staff member but b) not part of its editorial staff. In fact, Bunglawala works for Reuters's technical department. I'll leave it to our lizard readers to figure out whether that is proof of CJ's theory that the 'death threat' came from Bunglawala. Just one little caveat: our sources close to Mr B say he appears 'relaxed' and not like a man who has just been sacked...


I'm breaking protocol by not providing link. Above quote came from LGF watch and I don't want to give them traffic.
Interesting.

519 joewilson  Wed, May 31, 2006 2:01:48pm

Hey Reuters,

We could use more reporters in Iraq to report some good news.

520 Nordish12  Wed, May 31, 2006 2:05:23pm

#518 Killgore Trout

Very interesting! Does LGF Watch then have contact with Bunglawala? Or is it a new friendship forged?

The LGF words are very suggestive, and do I dare say provocative. It could mean many things.

521 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 31, 2006 2:11:53pm

#520 Nordish12

Bunglawala works for Reuters's technical department


I don't know where they got that information from. But it is interesting. He might have been suspended by Reuters but still working for the guardian.
Also, LGF watch might be bluffing about having sources close to Bungallah but it is possible.

522 LC LaWedgie  Wed, May 31, 2006 2:29:44pm

OT -
Here's one for the MSM.
The Exxpose Exxon protestors in Dallas wore plastic oil barrels with anti-Exxon scrawl on them.
I wonder if Shawnee Hoover and her

“Mother Earth is not happy – Exxon Mobil treats her crappy!”

crowd realize what plastic is made from?

/we don't need no stinkin' oil, we ride the bus.

523 gaby  Wed, May 31, 2006 2:32:44pm

Perhaps he is the Sys. Administrator!

524 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Wed, May 31, 2006 2:52:43pm

942,000 hits when you Google LGF+Reuters

I would say there seems to be some interest in this story.

525 fox3  Wed, May 31, 2006 3:01:21pm

Hey, perhaps the al-reuters folks are just here trying to figure out what "unbiased" means and how the truth keeps coming out of sites like these when they sure can't manage it at all.

God knows that someday the LSM has got to return to fair, honest, unbiased *reporting* rather than the agenda based (and clueless) commentary they all seem to put out now.

/dreaming

526 Egfrow  Wed, May 31, 2006 3:10:21pm

LGF is about to own the search phrase "Death Threat" in Google. LGF already owns "Reuters Death Threat"

527 kafir  Wed, May 31, 2006 3:14:34pm

#495 karmic_inquisitor

Hey I am an ex-{physicist|parrot|...}, haven't kept up with this stuff. Read a cool article on 'branes (pronounced like "brains", short for membranes) recently, and some stuff on quantum foam (gotta get a beer named quantum so I can taste some of that quantum foam)...

No, I don't think there is a fundamental asymmetry in nature that would cause the particle or anti-particle to fall into the event horizon, but then again, this is not my (former) area, so I can't say with anything approaching certainty.

Whats the relevance of this stuff to jihadis? Not that much of modern physics, or science, seems to derive from the areas where jihadis and madrassas run free. Scientific inquiry is simply not possible when you have a theological foundation that prevents inquiry and sentances inquirers to death aposty. Islam is not the only religion with this problem, but most of the rest have finally accepted that science exists for the benefit of human kind. Though as with all things, it can be perverted to be a detriment. Think of all that oil money that could be used to help lift the backwards society we call the "islamic world" out of its cesspool of self-loathing. Think of all the weapons and firepower that oil money is buying, all the investments from our oil-tic friends in the al Qaedas of the world. Think of all the people like our friend (_*_) whom this oil money finances, to spread evil in the world.

We have the freedom to pursue curiousity based research as we don't (any more) have a theocracy in the way of the research. Hasn't been this way forever, but we are getting much better than in the past. The problem is that the Islamic world slips further backward, with "science" being marginalized at best, and discouraged uniformly.

I don't see many physicists and chemists at alAzhar university.

528 Earth2moonbat  Wed, May 31, 2006 3:15:01pm
technical department

Could mean anything. That's like having a job title of "special projects".

529 MacGregor  Wed, May 31, 2006 6:37:36pm

(_*_)

/pressed ham

530 kirche  Thu, Jun 1, 2006 12:20:54am

maybe they're researching the site for a story on LGF... who cares?

531 mattm  Thu, Jun 1, 2006 10:04:31am

So Reuters, how goes the anit-American/Conservative theme?


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