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Mon, Jun 5, 2006 at 5:08:26 pm PDT

“Gunmen” versus “media:” Gunmen storm Palestinian TV in challenge to Abbas.

GAZA (Reuters) - Dozens of gunmen stormed into Palestine Television on Monday in a show of strength against President Mahmoud Abbas in the final hours before his deadline to Hamas to accept a manifesto implicitly recognizing Israel.

Employees at a broadcasting facility in the Gazan town of Khan Younis said gunmen, whom they identified as local Hamas members, fired into equipment, smashed computers and shouted that Abbas-controlled Palestine TV favored his Fatah faction.

Hamas, an Islamic militant group that came to power after defeating Fatah in a January election, denied responsibility. The gunmen eventually left the television office after beating up two employees, witnesses said.

“The whole place is ruined,” one employee told Reuters by telephone.

“The whole place is ruined.” Excuse me if I don’t weep, because this facility may have been used to produce ghastly television shows like this one (recorded by Palestinian Media Watch):

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1 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:09:31pm

Is Pali TV covering the Stanley Cup Finals?

2 ibrodsky  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:09:53pm

Q: What is the common denominator?

A: They all eat grape leaves

3 storagemanager  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:12:13pm

“The whole place is ruined...Thats the line they use in all Muslim lands.

4 ibrodsky  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:12:25pm

Something is wrong with this picture. The poor, oppressed, peace-loving Palestinians are even more violent now that the illegal Israeli occupation is over.

Maybe they are just barbarians as some of us said all along.

5 witness  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:13:30pm

Has anyone noticed the Abbas deadline falls on 6/6/6?

6 stuiec  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:13:42pm

Silly Hamas people. They thought that winning the election meant THEY could run the TV station.

7 DesertSage  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:15:07pm
fired into equipment, smashed computers


Sounds like the Koz Kidz and Hamas have a lot in common.

8 ibrodsky  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:15:37pm

They wouldn't be the "Palestinians" without gunmen, shootings, terrorists, beatings, and executions in the street.

Islamo-violence is the one thing that defines them as a nation.

9 jfromfolsomca  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:16:43pm

#7 DesertSage

lol

j

10 mingjaiyo  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:17:36pm

I don't have my copy handy at the moment (I'm at work)but can anybody tell me just how many other words are listed in Roget's Thesaurous that can be used as a sub for "terrorist"? MSM journo's must have the page dogeared to make the page easier to find!

11 Carridine  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:20:25pm
“The whole place is ruined,” one employee told Reuters

This is "Gaza and the Palestine" you're talking about, right?

12 witness  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:20:33pm

#10 mingjaiyo

[Link: thesaurus.reference.com...]

13 Obi-wan  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:21:18pm

Did they knock them off the air?

14 frankp_63  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:21:55pm

"Hamas seeks to destroy Israel and has rejected Abbas's calls to hold talks with the Jewish state."

In spite of themselves, Reuters manages a nugget of truth...

(the "gunmen" must have smashed some of their hardware and pissed them off, momentarily)

15 Obi-wan  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:25:49pm

Free speech, Islamic style.

16 TimK  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:27:53pm

This morning on CSPAN2 they replayed a program where a group of well-educated and well place Palestinians talked about how bad Israel was for not negotiationg with Abbas.There was an incredible disconnect with the reality overthere. Abbas has little power in the West Bank and next to none in Gaza, but they pushed how important negotiations were, like it was a panacea for all that ailed the area.
They pointed out that Israel pulling out of Gaza was bad, because look at all the trouble there now.
One moron said that the PLO recognized Israel in 1993 so therefore Israel had a duty to negotiate. What I did not understand is what is so great about recognizing a country that had repeatedly kicked your ass and the asses of all the other countries in the area.
Why negotiate with someone with no ability to enforce agreements?
If these people were the brains behind the Palestinian movement, they are in deep trouble.

17 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:28:06pm

They didn't have any greenhouses to ransack, or cars to torch. So, they went after a Palestinian tv station.

As you know, the next time you're upset with the current tv programming by CBS, NBC, or ABC, you're supposed to riot and take over 57th Street, invade Rockefeller Center to take out NBC studios (or at least stop Lorne Michaels from putting on yet another unfunny season of SNL), or perhaps smash windows at the ABC studios in Times Square. /sarcasm

18 sonofsheldon  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:29:17pm

Gunmen, militants, extremists, advocates, fighters, etc. Is that what they mean by "diversity"?

On an OT note -
At my local Borders, not only aren't the Qu'rans on the top shelf, but they are beneath a few shelves of Judaica. Of course, that's not something I ever would have noticed, had not some Muslims made an issue of it.

19 cbinflux  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:29:30pm

When the station gets back on the air, there's a great opportunity to let the good folk know their first-hand account of:
* who/what they elected
* what the Israeli's must feel when they're being TERRORIZED

20 sonofsheldon  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:32:29pm

#16
TimK

If these people were the brains behind the Palestinian movement, they are in deep trouble.

The trouble is that there are "brains" in the West who actually swallow the BS that these idiots are putting out.

21 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:33:47pm
The whole place is ruined,” one employee told Reuters...

Well it should fit right in now.

22 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:35:29pm

I guess the Israelis will get a break from the incessant anti-Semitic crapola spewed by the Palestinian tv station?

23 cbinflux  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:36:45pm

...the whole place is ruined! It looks like the greenhouses that we looted...

24 mingjaiyo  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:37:45pm

#12 witness Thanks for the link-I read the whole list but didn't see "gunmen" listed...gee,should I fire off a suggested "update" to Roget's?

25 Leper  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:40:07pm

Maybe this was a Rachel Corrie Memorial Party that just got out of hand...

26 The Albatross  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:42:28pm

H - Hotheaded
A - armed
M - men
A - (who are)also
S - schitzophrenic (or sociopathic).

*wink*

27 TimK  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:44:29pm

sonofsheldon # 20

I agree with you. If there were not gullible people in the West, no one would bother listening to these folks.
To me it seemed so obvious, that negotiating with someone in the middle of a civil war would be a waste of time. The question of who was going to force Hamas to go along with any agreement was right out front in my mind.

28 MSMediaCritic  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:46:45pm

The whole place is ruined,” one employee told Reuters...

Okay, who made the improvements? I didn't see any building permit.

29 witness  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:47:26pm

#24 mingjaiyo

I thought it was interesting that Terrorist is not listed as a Main Entry!

30 [Mark]  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:47:42pm

Palestinian "Gunmen". Where did that term come from? How often do you read about "Gunmen" without the Palestinian modifier?

31 Airedale  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:47:49pm

It's not like there was anything on Paleo TV to begin with.

32 Redcoat  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:47:57pm
“The whole place is ruined,”

Those words need to be inscribed upon the great seal of Palestine.

33 honest scrutiny  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:57:45pm

#18 sonofsheldon
At my local Borders, not only aren't the Qu'rans on the top shelf...

that whole "qurans on the top shelf" at borders thing sounds like urban legend to me. i don't believe it.

34 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:59:03pm

#32,

On to the next bit of critical infrastructure!

35 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 3:59:58pm

#33,

I checked the last time I was in Borders (a couple of weeks ago), and yup, top shelf...

36 Charles  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:02:16pm

See the update...

37 mich-again  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:04:27pm

33 honest scrutiny

that whole "qurans on the top shelf" at borders thing sounds like urban legend to me. i don't believe it.

Oh it was definately true at the Borders I visited in Taylor MI to check the validity of that claim when the story first broke. But I dressed up the shelf with a misplaced copy of "The Satanic Verses" right up there with them.

38 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:05:35pm
“The whole place is ruined,” one employee told Reuters by telephone.

Second law of thermodynamics is a bummer...

39 mich-again  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:07:14pm

36 Charles

That was utterly despicable. Great addition to the post.

40 jwm  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:07:38pm

I just saw the update. I really did believe I was incapable of being shocked at anything that came out of the islamic world. Wrong again. They have dug right through the bottom of the pit depravity and opened the gateway to hell.

JWM

41 GeeWiz  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:09:46pm

There is something so sad, just so sad about that video that I can't even, as a father of two daughters, begin to communicate.

42 mich-again  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:10:40pm

38 E2M

The entropy of an isolated system not at equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value.

Muslims and entropy: Partners for 1400 years.

43 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:11:06pm

OT Sixty Two Years Ago Today

Tomorrow, the sun will rise, as it does every morning but tomorrow it will be June Sixth, the sixty second anniversary of D-Day.

Right now, on this very minute sixty two years ago, tens of thousands of soldiers, sailors and airmen took one last look at loved ones, dashed off a last letter and otherwise did whatever they could to calm their nerves. They had boarded their ships or were boarding. The largest armada ever assembled sailed out to determine the fate of the world.

Eisenhower made the decision to go and the world would never be same again.

Sixty six hundred allied troops would not be alive in 24 hours. Thousands more would be injured. In the cold industrialized mechanized planning that was D-Day, half of the soldiers were there so their bodies would offer shelter, weapons and ammo to the survivors.

By late morning tomorrow, when you are having that second cup of coffee, sixty two years ago Omaha beach was a gory bloodbath, our soldiers were being slaughtered to the point that Gen. Omar Bradley was not sure the invasion had worked.

How safe and easy are our lives. We owe so much to this, the most magnificent army in history, a generation of brave men who stormed ashore because they believed in something greater and something better, the very lives that we lead today.

They followed orders and charged into a hopeless situation without question. Sheer mass was the only armor they had. As I have for the past couple of years, I write to honor their memory and perhaps say one new thing that might help others appreciate and remember.

D-Day was a triumph of planning and production but it is mostly a triumph of the spirit of the nation that calls itself the United States of America. It was an expression of a nation's will, its character and its future as the greatest power on earth.

After D-Day, the US would be the greatest power the world had ever seen. The American nation had shown that it was capable of doing anything, including the impossible, of fighting for the ideals of freedom against any odds and against any enemy. And winning. After D-Day, some might question America but D-Day was not just an event it was transformative to the nation itself the springboard to today.

Any nation that wishes to supplant the US from its global peak will have to commit deeds of greatness that will enable that nation to transcend the nation that risked everything for freedom and gave the world a vision of freedom and equality that I hope shines forever.

One night I had a wonderful dream. A bugle blew in heaven and an endless troop of soldiers marched to the gates themselves and presented arms and saluted; the honor guard of heaven were the allied soldiers of June 6, 1944.

No other place of honor is good enough for what they did.

So I ask you to take a moment and think about the day that gave birth to the modern world and remember the brave men who made it possible.

44 Miggie  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:11:55pm

Borders and Barnes and Noble normally stock their Religion section alphabetically by religion and let then by author, if they can. The Muslims, alone among all the religions, made a big complaint about the Koran occasionally getting stocked on the bottom shelf.

As I understand it, Borders caved in and stocks them on other shelves. I don't know about the other stores.

45 msdixie  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:16:49pm

OH MY GOD, the tv station produced a show about little kids wanting to be suicide bombers! This has to be the most perverted thing I've seen in a long time, it's creepy, it's scarey, it's about death, must have been high on the ratings in pali land.

These people are lower than the beasts of the wild. They're pure unadulterated evil. I'm kind of pleased they're fighting each other. Although they really should declare one of their temporary truces and cooperate to rebuild some of their infrastructure and set up some real schools, not madrassas these kids go to. But I guess that's too much to ask from the keepers of the Jewish jihad flame.

46 bruxellesblog  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:17:17pm

Just saw the video. How F@$ked up is the Islamic world?

It is like 1984 being edited by a demon.

Love is hate
War is peace

I really really feel...nothing...complete apathy. They have made their own destiny.

How can an 11 year old be so removed from reality?

47 Lazarus  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:17:20pm

They get their taqiyya talking points down early.

48 Mrs. Right  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:19:00pm

#43

Thank you for your tribute. God bless all who serve, the sacrifices of yesterday, today, and those to come. God bless and keep us all.

49 jwm  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:21:19pm

#43 Ayatollah Ghilmeini:
That was an excellent, very moving piece. Thank you.

JWM

50 sonofsheldon  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:21:22pm

#37
mich-again
I was at the Birmingham MI store. They may be snooty enough there that they don't think they have to follow the directions from HQ. In this case, I'm on their side.

51 merav  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:21:27pm

At some point this is going to erupt into full-fledged civil war. And Israel's gonna have to tourniquet it. To prevent it from spilling into Israel. And to stop it from metastasizing into a possible Lebanon redux, which Hamas may view as an effective means of destroying Israel.

52 mbruce  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:21:27pm

This is the biggest ptoblem the world faces, a whole culture imbibed with a death wish spreading like the virus that is is.Our very core concepts of redemption will be rocked to the core if we are to survive.It is beyond our present comprehension to understand how a living thing can do this to its young.

53 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:21:49pm

#43 A.G

Thank you for posting that. Also remember the many brave individuals whose stories were never told-whose missions and accomplishments were never revealed. Heroes, not as famous as generals and politicians who influenced the course of the war-many of whose rewards were only knowing that they were doing the right thing-like GARBO, TRICYCLE and others.

54 GeeWiz  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:24:55pm

#48 Mrs. Right

AMEN! Sleep tight knowing those of our brethren are keeping us safe! Thank You dosen't even begin to cover it but it is all we got. THANK YOU!

Nite All!

55 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:25:25pm

We forget, but there are a lot of folks new to LGF who haven't seen this stuff before.

56 400lb gorilla  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:25:28pm

Those girls must be at least 12. Shouldn't they be married with kids by now?
Guess Palestinian Old maids become homicide bombers

Kids blow up so fast these days

57 cbinflux  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:30:51pm

The link is mis-directing now.

58 Redcoat  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:30:56pm

Walla,age 11.

What could be better than going to paradise?

What could be worse than burning in hell after slaughtering innocent people in the name of your bloodthirsty Moon-god?

These people have selectively bred the humanity out of their gene pool.

59 mich-again  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:32:50pm

50 sonofsheldon

Birmingham huh? My Downriver passport won't get me into Birmingham. :-)

60 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:35:02pm

Previously on LGF:

11/30/2001 What Do Palestinians Teach Their Children?

4/17/2002 Harrowing Videos

2/9/2003 How To Make A Martyr

6/3/2003 Pal Kids: Ask For Death (which is where this video comes from)

61 Sil  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:39:22pm

"Gunman" must be the developmental stage that comes after "youth" in Mo-Land.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to learn that these sick f*cks brainwash young girls into wanting to be slaughtered for Allah in an attempt to keep the afterlife well-stocked with virgins. Vile, subhuman filth.

62 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:42:01pm

#43 Ayatollah Ghilmeini:

How very true. A most poignant posting.

63 sonofsheldon  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:47:27pm

#59
mich-again
You have to sneak across the border - like I do. Meet me at 8 Mile. I will show you the secret way in.

64 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:50:29pm

Difficult to put into words, as a mother, how revolted I feel. The Palestinians have managed to destroy children from their conception, to create life that wishes to murder other humans. The bile in their souls is unique.

65 Pro-Bush Canuck  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:53:44pm

#60 Dar ul Harb

Pal Kids: Ask For Death

From the mouths of babes... unspeakable depravity.

The only question I have is: which group evinces deeper evil on a cosmic scale--the Palestinians or Hitler's Nazis?

Perhaps the Aztecs were worse, I don't know. All I know is these people are inconceivably evil, and millions of Westerners believe they are victims who should be coddled.

66 Pro-Bush Canuck  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 4:57:34pm

When I was young and foolish (and before I came to know Christ) I had a taste for horror flicks. You know, Texas Chainsaw Massacre--that sort of thing.

I have to say no horror flick could ever in a million years deliver the sheer nihilistic kick in the face provided by that short clip.

67 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:00:27pm

#65 Pro-Bush Canuck

It is the same brand of evil, pathological Jew hatred-just a different incarnation. The Nazis were able to mobilize their whole country, and enlisted the Jew haters in other countries.

The Palestinians, with their close proximity to one of the world's largest populations of Jews-are the current incarnation of the Nazi spirit. Thus, the wads of cash that are thrown at them, especially from Europe-where the earth is forever soaked with the blood of Jews.

68 Max DarkSide  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:01:03pm

Can someone translate "shahid" and "shahada" for me?

Thanks.

69 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:01:14pm

"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us."
--Golda Meir
70 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:03:48pm

#68 Max Darkside

Shahid-martyr
Shahada-martyrdom

71 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:03:59pm

#64 WriterMom

Difficult to put into words, as a mother, how revolted I feel. The Palestinians have managed to destroy children from their conception, to create life that wishes to murder other humans. The bile in their souls is unique.

I'm not so sure that it's as much a unique individual phenomenon as it is a unique group dynamic system. The kids are bent this way by the environment, which in turns reinforces the environment. What's unique isn't so much the bile in their souls as the vile in their leaders, and the way they continue to profit from dysfunction. That's the really unique part; the way they's created a culture where the central organizing principle is death and destruction and hatred. Remove those things, and there's nothing left but a bunch of squatters on a no man's land.

72 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:04:02pm

#65

Each generation has to face unspeakable evil. 60+ years ago it was the Nazis. That was followed by the Communists.

Now, we're facing the Islamists. Each is evil in their own way.

73 EE  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:04:22pm

Abbas' newest big lie, by Caroline Glick
[Link: jewishworldreview.com...]

74 Max DarkSide  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:04:38pm

Thanks WriterMom!

75 Alouette  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:10:01pm

#63 sonfosheldon

Meet me at 8 Mile. I will show you the secret way in.

If mich-again makes it to 8 Mile that means a dangerous trek across the occupied territory of Dearborn.

76 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:10:09pm

#68,

Usually translated in English as "martyr" or "martyrdom," respectively. But that doesn't really capture the meaning, as Christian martyrs are those who were persecuted and killed on account of their profession of faith.

I'd say "shahada" is closer to meaning "death fighting for Allah". For example, Zacharias Moussoui couldn't be a shahid if he'd been executed, but he would have been one had he actively participated in killing infidels on 9/11.

77 Clemente  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:10:20pm

'...translate "shahid" and "shahada" for me?'

Wiki's definitions apparently avoid/downplay relevant jihadi interpretations.

78 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:11:59pm

#71 Earth2Moonbat

It's also, of course, uniquely hypocritical. Most "leaders" do not offer up their own children. So-it's a death cult culture for toi, but not for moi.

Remember the tape that Israeli intelligence released-where some big wig imam's wife was approached with the command that she donate one of her children to the glorious cause of shahada?

She quickly said-thanks, but no thanks and hung up.

79 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:14:59pm

As the PMW clip I linked to shows, the concept can be interpreted to be symbolic "fighting" as well, since Arafat in one segment describes the stone throwing youngster who gets killed fighting the Israelis as a "shahid".

(Putting aside for the moment that the "stone throwing youngster" was usually positioned in front of Palestinian gunmen shooting real bullets at the Israelis...)

80 EE  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:15:09pm

from the link in #73:

The Telegraph's report claims that the plan has six main components. In its words, those components are: "A negotiated settlement with Israel if the Jewish state withdraws from land occupied since the 1967 Middle East war; continued resistance, focusing on peaceful means, on land occupied since 1967 — the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and Arab East Jerusalem; an independent Palestinian state on all land occupied since 1967, with Jerusalem as its capital; a unity Palestinian government uniting all factions, including Hamas and Fatah; guarantee the right of return of Palestinian refugees to their former homes inside Israel and the release of all Palestinian prisoners in Israel; speeding up efforts to incorporate Hamas and Islamic Jihad into the umbrella Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), which has negotiated past interim peace accords."


IF ONE were to take these terms at face value, perhaps this could be seen as a step forward. But just the barest scrutiny shows that what the jailed terrorists announced was nothing more than a new restatement of their declaration of war against Israel and a recommitment to their goal of destroying the Jewish State.


It is true that the document speaks specifically of Israel's retreat from Judea and Samaria as well as Jerusalem. Yet led by convicted mass murderer, Fatah head and darling of the Israeli Left, Marwan Barghouti, the terrorists reiterated the "liberation of the land," that is, all of Israel, as their real objective.


The Telegraph's assertion that the "resistance" to Israel is supposed to be largely by "peaceful means" leads a reader to assume this means that the terrorists are calling for an end to terrorism. Nothing could be further from the truth. In six separate clauses of the declaration, the terrorists make clear their continued commitment to carrying out acts of terrorism against Israel as part of their strategy for destroying the Jewish state. Those acts of terrorism are supposed to be conducted in conjunction with civil disturbances, negotiations with Israel run by Abbas (something that Iran and its client the Palestinian Islamic Jihad does not accept), as well as an international diplomatic campaign in cooperation with NGO allies intended to delegitimize and demonize Israel.


Far from calling for an end to terrorism, the terrorists called for the establishment of a new joint terrorist organization called the "Popular Resistance Front" that is to be composed of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Fatah terrorists. As they put it in their declaration, this new group's job will be "to lead and engage in resistance against the occupation and to unify and coordinate action and resistance and to form a unified political reference for the front."

It is unclear what the difference will be between this proposed terrorist organization and the Popular Resistance Committees that Barghouti and his Hamas and Islamic Jihad colleagues formed in the months that preceded the outbreak of their terror war in September 2000.


The Telegraph notes that the imprisoned terrorists insist that Israel accept the so-called "right of return" of the so-called "refugees," but the newspaper, like its Israeli media counterparts, fails to recognize the true significance of this repeated demand. These murderers are demanding that in exchange for a temporary cessation of terror attacks against its citizens, Israel agree to its national destruction. The so-called "right of return" is a demand that Israel accept the unimpeded immigration of millions of hostile, foreign- born Arabs to its sovereign territory.


THESE MURDERERS devote an inordinate amount of attention in their declaration to detailing their desire to incorporate Hamas and Islamic Jihad into the Abbas-led PLO. They repeatedly call for unity between the "nationalist and Islamic" factions. That is, they call for unity in their ranks for the purpose of advancing their war for the destruction of Israel.

81 Ziggy'sGrammy  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:15:42pm

IIRC, in the middle ages, suicide was made a mortal sin because the excuse of "getting to paradise", in a very hard world, was just too tempting. Many felt that it would be better to kill yourself than try to live.

Sound familiar? However, the islamists don't seem to see a problem with young people killing themselves, infact they promote it.

As I have said before, sick sick people.

82 shug  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:18:59pm
What could be better than going to paradise?

How about Disneyland, you little psychopath?

83 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:20:54pm

#82 shug

Perfect.

84 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:21:18pm

#77, Clemente

Hmm. Wiki seems to say there's a meaning of shahada like "witness".

So it seems with Islam, you can be both witness and perpetrator!

85 shug  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:21:31pm

#59

Just wear a burka. You can go anywhere you like, passport or not ( usually not )

86 swamprat  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:22:50pm

I don't wanna grow up/I'm a palistine kid/ There's a million things that I could be/ I'd rather kill yids!... You know I love my mom and father/ But I'll grow up to be cannon fodder/...I don't wanna grow up, but maybe if I did, I'd rather be ajew-killin' kid.

87 Reluctant Democrat  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:24:02pm

Thank goodness you are here, Charles, to show these things to the world.

88 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:25:17pm

Hey cultural relativists, stil think all cultures are equal?

89 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:25:36pm

still, PIMF

90 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:31:55pm

78 WriterMom

There's a word for someone who profits from someone else, usually young and gillible, sacrificing their body: PIMP.

91 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:33:00pm

#90 Earth2Moonbat

Works for me!

Jihadi Pimps...I like it.

92 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:36:40pm

#82 shug

What could be better than going to paradise?

How about Disneyland, you little psychopath?

Believe it or not, Disney corporation is on an official islamic boycott list. Why? Because there's a Disneyland in Tel-aviv? No.
Because Disney shoots movies in Israel? No.
Because Disney was Jewish? No.
The reason is [drumroll]: at Epcot center, there's a display that shows {gasp!} Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel.

93 don't be that guy  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:46:10pm

My son is twelve years old and all he can talk about right now, is the four weeks of baseball camp he is starting next week.

That clip made me sad.
I'm grabbing my mit, gonna go play some catch.

94 shug  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:51:49pm

392 E2M

Glad to hear it.!
Can we add all wonderful American tourist attractions to their boycott list?

Better yet, can we add the entire USA to the boycott list?

PLEEEASE !

95 mich-again  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 5:53:11pm

75 Alouette and 63 sonofsheldon

Have you ever read this post from the LGF archives? It is truly a great breakdown of the Arab/Muslim presence in and around Dearborn.

When I read that, I really thought poster aridog deserved some kind of honorary degree from LGFU. Good reference material. Anyway, the trip North up Telegraph Road (Through Dearborn) is way smooth. The lights are timed expertly between Eureka and Cherry Hill.

96 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 6:00:52pm

#94 shug

Linky.
Loons.

97 storagemanager  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 6:04:58pm

(Quran 113:1)
I take refuge with the Lord of the Dawn...(Quran 84:16-19)
I swear by the afterglow of sunset, and by the night, and by the moon when she is at the full .. ..74:32 Absolutely, (I swear) by the moon.
74:33 And the night as it passes.
74:34 And the morning as it shines.
The Koran... the BIBLE... How you have fallen from heaven,
O morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!..iSAIAH 14:12...By myself I have sworn,
my mouth has uttered in all integrity
a word that will not be revoked:
Before me every knee will bow;
by me every tongue will swear.iSAIAH 45:23 ...
Whoever invokes a blessing in the land
will do so by the God of truth;
he who takes an oath in the land
will swear by the God of truth.
For the past troubles will be forgotten
and hidden from my eyes.iSAIAH 65:16

98 PETN Sandwich  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 6:05:59pm

Walla, age 11, "What could be better than going to paradise?"

Being Mohammid's latest Aisha? Too bad you're a little old for that trick...

99 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 6:33:40pm

#2 ibrodsky -
Medical breakthrough - Problem source identified.

100 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 6:37:41pm

100th

101 PETN Sandwich  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 6:52:11pm

101st Fighting KeyBoardest

102 BarCodeKing  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 7:10:45pm

"Peanuts! Popcorn! Cracker Jack! Programs, get yer programs here! Can't tell the players without a scorecard! Get yer programs!"

This promises to be most entertaining, in a schadenfreudic sort of way. Lots of baddies on both sides, so I just hope that their cage death match ends up with a high body count. If most of the evil people kill each other off, perhaps the survivors might have some chance of putting together something resembling a decent society... Nahhh! It'll never happen.

103 Catttt  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 7:11:54pm

Well, damn. Are all the Pali kiddies brainwashed psychopathic killers? Shit. Very depressing. Watching two peppy little kiddies happily contemplating mass murder and suicide sucks.

These people are screwed up!

/It has been a long day.

104 UncleSam  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 7:31:53pm

About the video: Ghastly brainwashing. The interviewer didn't really seem that enthusiastic or approving about her replies, though.
But I'm probably wrong concerning that.

105 UncleSam  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 7:37:51pm

#43 Ayatollah Ghilmeini: Thanks for your D-Day tribute.
The world should never forget the sacrifices and accomplishments of that day and those that followed.
Always really appreciated Charles Schulz's D-Day tributes in his Peanuts strip.
Did you know that he was a machine gun squad leader in Europe in WWII?
Not many do.

106 Atomic Crusader  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 8:06:53pm

I see the picture but cannot bear to watch the video. That poor little girl, the maddness and hatered those kids grow up under is beyond comprehension. They live in a culture of hate. What are we going to do about it? We must do something. We cannot allow it to ruin life across the globe, as they strive to do. Misery loves company. Bless that little girl, just look at that angelic face, so innocent.

107 pegcity  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 8:44:29pm

i want to make "palastine" the movie, it will be the funniest movie in the history of mankind.

Like blazing sadels, but with arabs.

108 Dave Bender  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 9:12:57pm

Atomic Crusader:

I did the original voice over for that PMW video of the two girls a few years ago. I kept shaking my head in disbelief, even as I prepared the V/O copy, finally "getting it," about the depravity of such indoctrination.

When I described the experience to others, however - American media colleagues, among others - the reaction was more of doubting my veracity, or that I was "too close to the story," rather than the significance of issue of vicious cultural meme itself.

One "happy" result, though, was that the convincing video was screened not long after at a Senate subcommittee hearing about Palestinian incitement against Israel.

OT: Not to drag readers away from here, but a volley of five Kassams fired from northern Gaza hammered the town of Sderot this, Tuesday morning, June sixth with shrapnel "lightly" wounding one teenage pedestrian, and one missile slamming into an apartment, hitting a bed in one of the childrens rooms.

I posted exclusive pics and a report of my visit to Sderot late last year, with one woman at the farming community of Nativ Haesera, who's son's girlfriend was killed in a similar attack this time last year.

Please go take a look and see what such a "primitive" weapon does to concrete walls, and a family's life, and leave a comment.

[Link: betbender.blogspot.com...]
Dave

109 pegcity  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 9:22:38pm

pallywood was one of the most shocking things ive ever seen in my life.

You sounded sometimes like you couldnt believe what your saying like it wasnt real, but it was.

110 ballantrae  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 9:23:23pm

That clip should have been on FOX News, CNN, etc. etc.

-ron

111 Atomic Crusader  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 9:59:20pm

Thanks Dave. I'll be keeping tabs on your blog. LGF has done a great service exposing this kind of child abuse and calling it as such. frontpagemag.com also frequently calls attention to this matter. Can't say I recall seeing anything about this child indoctrination and brainwashing on CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, or FOX. Maybe they have, I wouldn't know as I hardly ever come across those networks or their websites. It should be reported daily. LGF and frontpagemag have done so on several occasions.

112 Spiritualized  Mon, Jun 5, 2006 10:56:11pm
Palestine TV

Or the BBC as it's more commonly known.

113 tigger2005  Tue, Jun 6, 2006 12:24:46am

# 67 WriterMom

Actually, I have to agree with a writer who said calling Ahmadinejad a "Nazi" is misleading. Ahmadinejad and the Palestinians are just the latest incarnation of the Islamic spirit. If anything Hitler took inspiration from Islam and not the other way around. Islamists admire Hitler because he did so efficiently what they've been trying to do for over a thousand years.

114 transferthem  Tue, Jun 6, 2006 12:58:22am

pal killing pal.

G-d's verdict on an evil population.

115 sonofsheldon  Tue, Jun 6, 2006 1:28:26am

#75
Aloutte
#95
mich-again
That was an interesting analysis. Thanks for the link.

I rarely go to Dearborn just becuase I have no reason to. But, closer to home, I come in contact with members of the outlying colony in Madison Heights

116 FrogMarch  Tue, Jun 6, 2006 3:56:19am

The young girls love the Shahada.
wow. Brain-washing at it's finest.

Sad sad sad.

117 MoonbatBane  Tue, Jun 6, 2006 4:17:31am

Notice that they are "insurgents" or "militants" when killing Jews or Americans, but "gunmen" when going after media types.

(Remember, to media types, "gun" anything is EEEVIILLL. /spit)

118 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jun 6, 2006 5:20:38am

Oy Gewalt!

119 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 6, 2006 5:21:22am

#113 tigger2005

Hmm...I still think it's fine to call Imadinnerjacket a Nazi-he meets the criteria. But of course you are correct, the Nazis did learn a few 'valuable' tricks from Muslim anti-semitism, which preceded the Nazi era. Notably-identifying Jews by their clothing.

120 CLLRusso  Tue, Jun 6, 2006 7:19:03am

The tape is enough to make me weep and the lesson to be learned is to begin brainwashing at a very early age and it works. How can the United Nations not call this indoctrination child abuse and why do they not investigate this?

121 massachusetts republican  Tue, Jun 6, 2006 3:58:43pm

Fucking GOD dammed a-rab bastards! Take their babies from them before they can destroy more minds!

122 swamprat  Tue, Jun 6, 2006 6:06:36pm

121 massachusets republican...You are an idiot. Please take your medication, moby.

123 Quella  Wed, Jun 7, 2006 4:01:16am

CLLRusso #120:

I totally agree. That video makes me weep for the future. Truly brings a lump to my throat.


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