Guess they forgot their tinfoil hats at that konvention.

Reatardages.

Is that the same Yale that has a Taliban as a student?

Da Jooos!
/LLL

Thanks for posting this.

The number of recommenders to this diary entry simply distress me.

The hypocrisy of it all is what I find the most amusing part of it. Here you have people who were up in arms over the Danish cartoons, and yet it's perfectly fine to insult Jews.

If that doesn't scream of double standards and antisemitism, then nothing does.

Well of course. Thats the only logical explanation on why an academian of Cole's caliber would be turned away

/adjusting tin foil hat

#2 DesertSage
Further proof that he's a mossad agent! 911 was an inside job.

Dumb as a box of rocks.

BTW, why does Markos always look so wild-eyed on tv? It's almost scary, 'cept it's so comical...worse on C-Span, I noted.

Other than the 120 year old Bernard Lewis, is there a single respectable Islamic Studies professor in the entire country?

Me & E2M discussing this a bunch of threads down, reposting here

BabbaZee

it is straight up
good against evil
destroy those who represent the
God of Abraham
who keeps in the light that dreaded covenant against barbarity and self indulgence
and today,
that includes Christians
which is why the vicious attacks have stepped up from the left against them too
but we , the Jews, were deputed
to be his representatives here
so the Jews will always be first on the hit list and
the canary in the coal mine

Earth2moonbat

188 BabbaZee If I had to diagram this out, they resent the morality dieectly, but they also resent the success begotten by the work ethic and instrospection, which are both begotten by the morality. So in that sense, all resentment flows from morality, or it's consequences. Hmmm...

BabbaZee

all resentment flows from morality

YOU GOT IT

and all morality comes from the book that those pesky jews wrought
and their pesky cousins the christians
who worship the most pesky jew of all time

#8 Ringo the Gringo
'swhy he lived to 120, LOL

452 raids since al-Zarqawi's death, 104 insurgents killed... all i need to know.

hmm...DailyKos = latter day StormFront. Why does this not suprise me?

#4,uella,

What distresses me is the notion that it's the ' premier/most popular political blog ' according to MSM fawning.

God help us (US).

#7 tradewind

BTW, why does Markos always look so wild-eyed on tv?

Well, when taking certain drugs the pupils tend to get rather large...not that I am insinuating he is on drugs though...

I'm confused. Didn't Kos support that Jewish Presidential candidate who was a lackluster Yale grad?

The pretending subsides. This, ladies and gentlemen, is how they really see things.

That second cartoon has a definite late '30s Nazi odor to it.

Terp,
He was Catholic before he was Jewish..

Sad...really...as they spew about people they accuse of hate...they are blind and can't see they ARE HATE.

That second cartoon has a definite late '30s Nazi odor to it.

E2M
yes it do

Disgusting...

***

OT - Iran admits it is seeking nuclear weapons.

Tradewind #13:

Yup. The fact that Kos gets the backing of so many within the Democratic Party and gets MSM attention, and yet tolerates an antisemitic entry like this one (with 100+ recommenders)...

It speaks volumes of the state of the modern American left.

Name changes suggestion:

Der Daily Sturmer

Make that "change", singular.

Occasional

Der Lebensborn Babies

Der Kinter Lebensborn?

Carl in Jerusalem #20:

As I said on your blog...

Of course Iran is seeking nukes.

I thought this was an open secret. Only someone blind and deaf would think otherwise.

(that said, there are many blind and deaf people in the world)

Der Yungvolk Kinter?

#19 BabbaZee
That second cartoon has a definite late '30s Nazi odor to it.

Picture of Jewish Yale alumnus demading Cole not be hired.

The nefarioius plot is deeper than I thought! John Kerry's Jewish father attended both Yale University and Harvard Law School.

Hes an illuminati, LOL

OMG did you see the second cartoon-Juan Cole sleeps with gefilte fish...

That POS and whoever drew this bonks ARAFISH.

TRASH!

# 26 Quella

The point is that until now they have denied it, even though we all knew it. Now, they have gone so far as to admit it.

Täglich Kos.

Oy.

does kos write for mahmoud?

I wonder how Lieberman can sleep at night with a (D) after his name...

And note that the Yale University Seal has... Hebrew words on it!

[thunderclap]

[scary organ music]

Brown Shirt Nazis = Black Shirt Fascists = Red Flag Communists = Rainbow Flag Pacifists = Green Banner Islamists

They are all cut from the same totalitarian cloth.

#32 carl...you got it...thats what I was trying to point out..with 3 post..lol...they admit it now.

Good on BarryinAnnArbor for having the courage of his convictions. As for those Koz Kid posters claiming to be Jews, and unconcerned about the nature of those cartoons, I worry for them. To them I would say ...

How soon we have forgotten.

#35,

Question: What group has to disown markos... is he of Greek ethnicity?

They're mostly so cool , I sure hope not...

Carl in Jerusalem #32:

I would be shocked out of my mind if Iran's admission will result in anything. It boggles the mind, but the world seems perfectly cool with Iran having nukes.

tradewind #36:

Many Dems are not antisemitic, such as obviously Lieberman. However, what troubles me is when I see tripe like that entry. There is a certain base of the Democratic party that engages in crass antisemitism. It will need to be purged out of the party, as communism was in the 1950's, in order for the Democratic Party to remain relevant.

#4 Quella,

Thanks for posting this.

The number of recommenders to this diary entry simply distress me.

Me too. It's one thing for some idiot to post a "diary"--I refuse to be lumped in with the people here who use terms like "muslimes" and such, and are frankly no better than the diarist in this case. It's altogether different for a diary to get so many "recommends".

My distress is somewhat mitigated by the presence of commenters in that diary who recognize the diary for what it is...but only slightly.

I hereby declare a Jewtwa~
aha!
I unleash SuperJew on
your Kosmaniacal asses!

[Link: i35.photobucket.com...]

38 Kenneth

Brown Shirt Nazis = Black Shirt Fascists = Red Flag Communists = Rainbow Flag Pacifists = Green Banner Islamists

They are all cut from the same totalitarian cloth.

Indeed.

Sharona #40:

There are other good posters on DKos, such as Red Sox, PumpkinLove, and Paul in Berkley.

But note how they are completely overrun by the supporters of the poster, Grand Moff Texan.

Jamie wrote:
I refuse to be lumped in with the people here who use terms like "Muslims" and such, and are frankly no better than the diarist in this case.

OK...
WTF is wrong with using the word Muslims?
and such?

BabbaZee #40:

I love it!

#44,

Smile... laughing, thanks for the pic.

(His proud Mama is positively ferklempt, or however you spell it)...

WAIT! STOP THE RIDE!

I can't keep this straight...

I thought Jooos were supposed to be running the great big LEFTIST establishment.

Or was it Marxist?

Now it's Neoconservative...?

Too many moooving parts...must start drinking whiskey and off to bed!

Regards;

#47 BabbaZee,

Jamie wrote:
I refuse to be lumped in with the people here who use terms like "Muslims" and such, and are frankly no better than the diarist in this case.

OK...
WTF is wrong with using the word Muslims?
and such?

Oy, I suspect there is now a filter for anti-Muslim terms. I had an "e" in there when I originally posted the word, so that the second syllable rhymed with "wine".

"But note how they are completely overrun by the supporters of the poster, Grand Moff Texan."

Quella
Blogs are just like real life
there will always be toadies next to the schoolyard bully
even when it's the blogyard bully
and the toadies are well past 40 years old

people is what they is, sweetie.

They splatter that little rat bastard's puss (KOS)all over the T.V. like he's some kind of two bit authority on politics.

What I want to know is when I will see Charles Johnson on Bill O'reilly?

#52 BabbaZee

Blogs are just like real life
there will always be toadies next to the schoolyard bully
even when it's the blogyard bully
and the toadies are well past 40 years old

But blogs also have shiitebirds...

51 Jamie
Oh.

OK

but your comparison ther eis not valid
Jews have not murdered 3000 civilians
and declared war on the rest of the world
tey are not beheading goyim on TV
etc
IMO if I want to call my enemy
a [bigoted word]
I have that right via his behavior
so there is not a comparison there
if that's what you were trying to say

Ein Volk!

Ein Reich!

Ein "Screw 'em"!

E2M

They have all the sterotypical characters, just like meatspace.

it is our words that make us real

as you can clearly experience here.

# 8 Ringo the Gringo
Yes, there are a few, but they are hidden at small liberal arts colleges, where they can teach with less ideological pressure than at big universities. And they don't make waves, and that's a good thing. They just toil away, in semi-obscurity, like the scholars of the old.

it is our words that make us real

as you can clearly experience here.

That's rich.

Good grief.

The evidence is undeniable;

Hitler was a Socialist

Fascism is Leftist

But, but, but its true! The Joos do control Yale.

Psst...and they are behind the Iranian weapons program; all those engineers...must be Joo in there somewhere.

Know where I can find 8ml tin foil?

I tried reading the linked article and I couldn't make any sense of it at all, beyond "It was teh Jooos!". So much of "nutroots" writing is barely coherent, impotent-raged-fueled garbage.

Terp Mole #60:

Huh? Hitler was a fascist. He put communists in concentration camps.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Grand Moff Texan. Lemme fix that: Grand Mufti Texan

Qur’an:9:88 “The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah’s Cause.” ...Peaceful Muslims...Qur’an 4.:8 “Except those who are feeble—men, women and children—who cannot devise a plan nor have the means or power. These are those whom Allah is likely to forgive.”
Qur’an 9:16 “Do you think you will get away before Allah knows who among you have striven hard and fought?”
Qur’an 9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to march forth in the Cause of Allah (i.e., Jihad) you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you march, He will afflict and punish you with a painful torture, and put others in your place. But you cannot harm Him in the least.” ( I dont care if you like me posting this...it is the truth...Islam is war.)

Quella

Read his links

Hitler was a leftist
a national socialist

Whaaasup with the blog ads?

Is Jerry Hall REALLY "ICI"?

Jamie: yes, there's a filter for some words like that, because I don't like them either and I simply don't have time to read and/or police all comments.

#55 BabbaZee,

IMO if I want to call my enemy
a [bigoted word]
I have that right via his behavior
so there is not a comparison there
if that's what you were trying to say

But by that rationale, if I behave like someone you refer to as a "[bigoted word]" couldn't someone be justified in calling me a talmudickhead? I'd certainly consider that anti-Semitic.

Maybe the difference is nuanced based on the motivations (i.e. religious tracts)?

Meanwhile, another wacademic forgets "Screw Them" while sobbing all over Zarqawi's festering corpse;

People should treat terrorists like humans

An American soldier killed in combat is shown by news sources in either his military dress uniform or in a candid pose, which humanizes him. This form of memorial is a sign of respect. Showcasing al-Zarqawi's dead body instead of a stock photograph illustrates the vast difference between the humane treatment the American dead receive and the absence of basic consideration granted to the body of a terrorist. The division between ally and enemy seems to have become the difference between human and other.
---
While al-Zarqawi's violent actions during his life were terrible and inexcusable, he was still a human being. Treating him as such would validate our ethical superiority.

Since when have Leftists treated American dead like humans?

"Let the people see what war is like."
--Markos "Screw them" Zuniga--

Don’t recall Leftists bemoaning media depictions of the Black Hawk Down dragging in Somalia.

#68 Charles,

Jamie: yes, there's a filter for some words like that, because I don't like them either and I simply don't have time to read and/or police all comments.

Ahhh, gotcha. Makes sense.

#63 Quella:

He put communists in concentration camps.

Yes, and communists/socialists all over the world have cheerfully slaughtered each other since 1917.

Hitler's core ideas had the same utopian/corporatist state bent as did those of the communists.

66 BabbaZee

Hitler was a leftist, a national socialist

More importantly, the left, embodied by the USSR, but represented in various Western institutions, was fine with the 3rd Reich until the double-cross of Stalin. It was only after that that they became anti-Nazi, and that was the reason why we really didn't have a serious internal opposition to WWII.

Jamie,

No the difference is
the behavior

Jews have attacked no one
they are not flooding Europe rioting and demanding the Sanhedrin be reestablished
they are not waging war with the world
Sawing off heads
blowing up their children
etc etc
infinity

so if you are calling something what it is

that is entirely different than calling something what it isnt

#73 Earth2:

the left, embodied by the USSR, but represented in various Western institutions, was fine with the 3rd Reich until the double-cross of Stalin

I think you mean "... of Hitler".

Anyway, I don't think this is quite true. The left was quite anti-Nazi until the signing of the Non-Aggression Pact, after which the Comintern ordered them to shut up. This situation lasted until Barbarossa.

was fine with the 3rd Reich until the double-cross of Stalin

E2M
BINGO!

thats the crux of that biscuit, right there.
you really do know it all don't you?
;~P

Q: Hitler was a fascist. He put communists in concentration camps.

Yep. They're vicious toward competitor and prey alike.
Ever see wolves vs. coyotes?
Wild dogs vs. jackals?

Israel spends time and money...to find out if they killed or hamas killed...hamas and the rest of Islam just kill.

But to clarify:

The left was quite anti-Nazi

... not out of some truly principled opposition to Nazi ideology, but only because it represented a competing corporatist/utopian ideology. (Although, to be fair, the left at the time was generally not ideologically racist, which was a major difference with the Nazis)

63 Quella
Hi, and you are correct. Hitler was a facist, not a leftist. There are some critical differences between the two. For one, extreme nationalism is a very clear component of fascist thinking. This was never a component of leftism. In addition, the Hitlerians still continued private ownership of the means of production. I could go on, but you get the point.

OR
The left was quite anti-Nazi

THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY

weren't socialists?

or you are saying that the left you refer to
were not socialists at that time?
Or you refer to the American left, who were communists?

I confused!

#75 Occasional Reader

The double-cross of Stalin by Hitler...

#76 BZ:

"the crux of the biscuit"?

Or is it the critical juncture of the big enchilada?...

73 Earth2:
I think you may be forgetting the Spanish Civil War actually.

It doesnt matter...we are fighting Evil...there is no Logic in Evil...its just Evil.

#68 Charles

That's a neat filter. I hate such filters on databases because it makes the results weird but it's cute on a blog.

Why do database designers think they are doing you a favor when they give you results for a different search string than you typed? Maybe it's a plot to send you to the optician's office.

what left are we talking about here?

because the darwinian eugenics occult worshipping nudist camp man lovin boy type homosexual power movement vegetarian artsy butch healthy german outdoor left
was were the national socialist party sprung from ...

#53 M/D

Just please tell me that there aren't really that many Americans... voting ones, anyway...who count themselves in the KosKamp. I understand the MSM's desire to pump...them...up, but it just can't be for real.

I hope.

Occasional Reader #72:

That I will agree with. The bottom line is that Hitler's facism shares much in common with communism, though it operated under a different label. However, I think calling him an outright socialist or communist is a bit unfair, since he put actual communists/socialists in concentration camps.

I find political labels to really tell half a story. What a "liberal" is today is what a "conservative" is tomorrow, and vice versa. Furthermore, the hard left and the hard right are nearly identical in many respects...

This is how you saw the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem siding with Hitler during WWII. In many ways, the hard left and hard right share common aims and goals.

That doesn't make Hitler an outright communist or socialist, however.

Kinda shoots down the Bush is Evil, Republicans are Nazis mantra, don't it?!?

#63 Quella

There's a common misunderstanding among Western academics that Hitler was "right wing" and Communists are "left wing", and therefore very different ideologically speaking. But if you examine the core beliefs of Communism & Fascism you will see that they are 2 sides of the same coin. They have much more in common than they differ. They were rival totalitarian factions, not opposites.

Consider Mussolini started as a Socialist, and that following the defeat of his regime many former fascists became Marxists. In East Germany, many Nazis found employment with the new Communist dictators.

The real dialectic is between democratic freedom and totalitarianism.

#81 BZ:

Credit where it's due... in the mid 30s, most of the loudest anti-Nazi voices in the US and Europe came from the left. As noted, though, they mostly shut up once the Comintern told them to play nice with their new friends. I've seen Orwell comment on this, would have to find the link.

The term "National Socialist" is a misnomer actually.

Scratch a Liberal, find a Nazi.

#83 Occasional Reader

The v joint of the cheese blintz?

Occasional if you can find it please do I'd like to read it

#89 Quella:

However, I think calling him an outright socialist or communist is a bit unfair, since he put actual communists/socialists in concentration camps.

Um, and so did Stalin.

I do agree, however, that there's a difference in... taxonomy, let's say... between Nazism and Communism.

BabbaZee #81:

The actual name of the Nazis does not define what a Nazi was.

If you go by name, then China should be the most democratic nation in the world.

After all, it's called The People's Republic of China.

Kenneth

The real dialectic is between democratic freedom and totalitarianism.

I agree

#89 Quella

The full name of the Nazis was,
The Nationalist Socialist Workers Party of Germany.

They were anti-capitalist, anti-democratic, anti-Christian, and anti-freedom. So were the Communists.

91 Kenneth
I will have to respectfully disagree. Socialism refers to the government ownership of the major means of production.
Those arguing that fascism is the same thing need to provide us with concrete examples of the facist government;s nationalizing industries. I am not talking wartime exconomies either.

Redcoat,

Scratch a liberal,

Find a subpoena in your mail, (and lawyer up).

We all know how evil Nazi eugenics were, don't we? How crazy were their efforts to build up the "master race" through selective breeding of SS men with the best of German women -- the "Lebensborn" project? Good Leftists today recoil in horror from all that of course.

But who were the great supporters of eugenics in Hitler's day? They were in fact American Leftists -- and eugenics was only one of the ideas that Hitler got from that source. What later came to be known as Fascism was in fact essentially the same as what was known in the USA of the late 19th and early 20th century as "Progressivism", so Fascism is in fact as much an American invention as a European one. The Europeans carried out fully the ideas that American Leftists invented but could only partially implement. America itself resisted the worst of the Fascist virus but much of Europe did not. The American Left have a lot to answer for.

Professor Ray outlines the largely Leftist roots of eugenics here and the largely American Leftist roots of Fascism here.

So even Hitler's eugenics were yet another part of Hitler's LEFTISM! He got his eugenic theories from the Leftists of his day. He was simply being a good Leftist intellectual in subscribing to such theories.

Kenneth #91:

That I agree with. As I said, I agree that Nazism shared much in common with communists/socialists. That doesn't mean Hitler was a communist/socialist.

Labels often tell half a story, after all.

Quella
Thank you. The same goes for "People's Republic". Give me a break...
Misnomers are associated with totalitarian ideologies. Communism is not the same thing as fascism.

I say we just call evil
EVIL

all of it:
communism
facism
socialism
so called leftism
is just plain
EVIL

It also makes the scorecard much smaller
:~P

BabbaZee #106:

That I will agree with.

Actually, several groups supported eugenics in the 1930s, even good old rednecks.

Where these ideologies meet is often instructive: Jew hatred among other things.

#104 Quella

I'm not saying the ideologies are identical. St Pancake points out a key distinction. However, most Communist states evolved into crony based ownership/control (ie. Yugoslavia, China, Belarus) which is indistinguishable from Fascist economic monopolies.

Within the Nazi Party there were factions: one which was more "worker" oriented, another which was racialist oriented, & another that was other militaristic.

"even good old rednecks"

again, EVIL
LOL

Evil is as Evil does.

111 BabbaZee
Yep

Racial purity thing for some people.

#84 St. Pancake

All bringing the Spanish civil war into this discussion does is demonstrate how unprincipled socialists are. They will cut deals with some fascists, and fight others. It has little to do with belief systems, it has to do with Machiavelian maneuvering. The socialsts and fascists are a lot like the Sunni and Shia. They're basically the same animal, but under some circumstances they'll cooperate, and under others, they'll kill each other.

Like I said...Evil has no logic...you can not reason with Evil...look at history.

StPC: Actually, several groups supported eugenics in the 1930s, even good old rednecks.

Yep... perfectly consistent with the Left.

108 St. Pancake

and the founder of American birthcontrol, Margaret Sanger, she was big on eugenics

I am a masochist and regularly frequent the HuffingtonPost. It is interesting to see the open Jew-hating which presents itself at HuffPo.
My friends, we will soon see this group of left-wing Democrats even more brazenly call for Israel's demise, as well as pulling the Jews out as the scapegoats for every ill. Just remember that Harry Reid and his ilk are playing to this crowd. I wonder what Russ Feingold thinks about the Kos goosesteppers?

all tentacles
of the Nothing
of evil
can be connected at the jew-hate base.

always.

St. Pancake #108:

Yup, which is why I find that attacking someone with a label is missing the point.

I have my own definition of what "liberal" means, that most "liberals" would dispute. But the point is that labels have been abused time and again throughout history.

91 Kenneth

In East Germany, many Nazis found employment with the new Communist dictators.

And guess which part of present-day Germany neo-Nazism is strongest in?

114 Earth2moonbat
112 buzzsawmonkey
That part is true. All of these ideologies are related, including capitalism.

Quella, Vasily Grossman has written very eloquently about the fundamental sameness of communism and fascism, if you haven't read anything by him I'd recommend it. His writing is beautiful and tragic.

Earth2MoonBat #114:

That I agree with you on. That goes back to my statement on labels being meaningless.

GOD BLESS ISRAEL!

tradewind #102:

Haha, that I resent as a recent law school grad. :-p

Kenneth #110:

Again, I agree with your statement there. Often times, politics are much more complicated than simple sound bites.

93 St. Pancake

The term "National Socialist" is a misnomer actually.

No, it's not. Fascism is internationalist (i.e. Bolshevik) socialism made national. It's socialism based on the nation-state, rather than a worldwide movement. It was derived from socialism, as a way to make it more palatable to the European xenophobes.

Just after Kos kids is declared the true face of Democrat activism. And then this comes out...ooh they must be hating this at the RNC. Its so amusing how quick the hard-left flops into national socialism.

Man, and two anti-Semitic cartoons to boot.

I've been going through the comments trying to find a sensible person who will renounce the anti-Semitism. I'm still looking!

As guess the anti-Semites successfully vaccinated themselves by moaning: "Now I'll be charged with Anti-Semitism again, gosh darn it."

Yeah. You're an anti-Semite, so we call you one. What's the problem?

Anti-Semite is too "nice " a term.

They are nihilsitic jew haters
they are breathless concubines of satan

EVIL

It's instructive how perfect a fit that site is to the book "Why the Jews" by Prager and Telushkin.

That's three groups of people right there who need to reconsider what country they live in.

(near the top, in the link www.dailykos.com...] target="_blank">

The leftists' first solution to the ``jewish question'' is that the jews should all abandon their religion and just melt in. The second is that they should "reconsider what country etc.". And the Final Solution? Bah!

If Juan Cole were insisting that all the Christians need to get out of Denmark, no one would think it remarkable if Danish donors to Yale explained that if he's hired, they quit giving.

117 Kenneth
She was not the only one, unfortunately.

E2M

Sorry, I will disagree.
Misnomers are common in radical ideologies.
All Western ideologies are related, but this does not mean they are all the same. That is my point.

Yup, which is why I find that attacking someone with a label is missing the point.

Words do have meanings.

Liberal isn't necessarily Leftist
Conservative isn't necessarily Rightist.

The concepts of Left and Right merely relate to advocacy for change.

In one sense, entrenched Communists (e.g., Soviets, today's ChiComs) are "right-wing" to the extent they defend a status quo and resist forces of change.

Similarly, Hitler/Stalin/Mao were Leftists in the sense they pushed for radical (anti-liberal) change.

They were not "liberals" in any conception of the term.

They weren't "conservatives" in the sense they conserved culture, heritage or institutions.

They were, however, Leftists.

St. Pancake #133:

Yup!

Dayenu #130:

There are a few sensible posters, like BarryAnnArbor, Paul in Berkley, Red Sox, and Galatea. (though I am Galatea on DKos, so I am not sure if that counts ;-))

They are clearly drowned out by the 100+ other posters, however...

#122 St. Pancake

All of these ideologies are related, including capitalism.

Capitalism depends on certain legal structures (corporations), but it is not in itself an idiology, and it's not in itself an organizing principle of government. It's the absense of governmental organization of the economy.

Kind of like comparing sharia, which integrates religion and government seamlessly with seclurism, which limits the role of government to secular matters. Capitalism (ideally) limits the government to non-economic matters.

Capitalism (ideally) limits the government to non-economic matters.

E2M
Wouldnt that be federalism?

#87 Babba

The Nazis were a lot of things but they didn't openly advocate homosexuality.

That's how Hitler squeezed out Roehm.

Roehm was Hitler's partner,he ran the S.A.(brownshirts) and they were becoming too powerful(in Herr Hitler's eyes)so Hitler framed him with "evidence" that Roehm was homosexual.

This caused Roehm to "resign"(right before he was shot) and gave Hitler complete control of the Nazi party.

-Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

Quella you just outed yourself
prepare to be attacked over there
I am sure they are all over this thread

138 TotallySirius
It's deeper than that bro

[Link: www.abidingtruth.com...]

Earth2moonbat
Now since FDR actually, speaking just of this country.

Socialism
the belief that the means of production should be owned and controlled by society, either directly or through the government.
Means of Production
capital
land
raw materials
factories
This would allow wealth to be distributed equally among all citizens

Again, this did not occur within Nazi Germany, Spain under Franco, or Mussolini's Italy.

BTW after roehm's "outing" the S.A. was disbanded.

So contrary to popular moonbat talking points,Hitler never ran the "brownshirts".

I would much rather have had to deal with the S.A.(brownshirts) than Hitler's boys, the S.S.

St Pancake
it never really occured ANYWHERE

it's one of those theoretical disasters

#102 Tradewind

Scratch a liberal,

Find a subpoena in your mail, (and lawyer up).

I was speaking metaphorically, I would never scratch a Liberal, those people are filthy.

I neither endorse nor approve of Liberal scratching,and do not accept liability for those who engage in the scratching of a Liberal.

I condemn such scratchings,and am also opposed to the forced bathing of a Liberal,shaving the legs and armpits of the female Mooonbats under duress,or the shaving of the male Moonbats pathetic attempt to grow beards when they do not possess the testosterone to sustain them.

The menshovick kibbutzes probably came the closest

Hitler did declare war on homosexuals, even though many lesbians did not get caught up n the net. This was more of a generational thinking though, probably.

Bruhaha haha hahaha --- wait until they find out about the Lost Protocol.

By the way, Yale is controlled by the Jews. Skull and Bones is actually a cabal of Kabbalah worshippers.

#140 Babba

The Nazis were into a lot of sick shit but they didn't tolerate open homosexuality.

Sure they had their share of pervs(Goering was a flaming transvestite) but not openly.

BTW time to call on Yale for a response to this posting. I'm going to do my part.

142 buzzsawmonkey
Yep! The NEP was Lenin's remedy for a country devastated by the Civil War/Revolution etc.

Temporary to get the country back in gear.

BabbaZee #139:

I do not care. Honestly, I am a registered Democrat and I have nothing to hide. I am anti-hate, and in order for the Dems to win, they have to take a stance and prove they too are anti-hate.

#101 St. Pancake

Those arguing that fascism is the same thing need to provide us with concrete examples of the facist government;s nationalizing industries. I am not talking wartime exconomies either.

The answer to that is that they never had a chance to develop their economic agenda, because there were other priorities. So the furher chose not to muck up the economic infrastructure, but he did regulate the heck out of it. A famous example of this is the VW bug (which leftist hippies love so much). Designed by Ferdinand Porsche, under micromanagement of the fuhrer himself, it was exactly what you'd expect from a dictator's design: A piece of crap. Porsche hated it, but hat to put his name on it, and did the best he could to put lipstick on that pig.

Hitler also arranged for the VW works to be developed out of the NSU company, so that it would be produced. The government didn't own the means of production, but they certainly commanded it. And there were severe restrictions on profits. basically, the government skimmed off anything above a ceiling, and subsidized failing companies.

Not that different from the economic model being used to the East.

142 buzzsawmonkey
Interesting point. Utilizing some of the same methods to achieve theoretical differences, lol! A road to a socialist Utopia vrs. a fascist Utopia. Lol, hilarious!

#130 Dayenu,

As guess the anti-Semites successfully vaccinated themselves by moaning: "Now I'll be charged with Anti-Semitism again, gosh darn it."

Yeah. You're an anti-Semite, so we call you one. What's the problem?

Funny you should mention that.

What always gets me is the people who pull the very stunt you described are usually the first to make accusations of racism against those who support Israel.

#152 Quella

Quella
I like you better every day, LOL

146 BabbaZee

The menshovick kibbutzes probably came the closest

Correct. You might also use certain Christian sects such as the Amanas as an example. Because their primary reason for existance was not economics as an end in iteslf but as a means to a different end. Unless they're a religious element involved, communes never sustain themselves, because they can't handle the competition.

#149 TotallySirius
in their infancy they were very open
only after siezing power did Hitler find it expedient to persecute the femmes etc
most of his cronies from bygone days were protected and did not go to camps
it was political expediency
and he persecuted those that his own had always hated anyway
the femmes

#152 Quella

You may be the only sensible Democrat left.

All the rest are all hate,all the time.

They have no ideas except to shoot down everyone else's ideas.

You have my respect(for what its worth)

153 Earth2moonbat
Actually, the German Volkswagen was still a private company. It is a myth that there was a monolithic government control.
German officials were used, but the government did not nationalize the industries. That is all I am trying to say.

German business owners thought they could control Hitler, and that was their big mistake, imho.

#158 Babba

Definitely

Th Eu thinks it can cotrol the Caliphate, and that is THEIR big mistake

same mistake
different day

157 Earth2moonbat

Yes, cultural homogeneity is a case in point, i.e. Amish, Mennonites, etc.

#160 St.P

Exactly,German business was free market but they knew which side of their bread was buttered and by whome.

When Hitler said "You vill jump" they were already off the ground when they asked "how high".

TotallySirius #159:

The Dems are more than DKos, however, increasingly DKos forms a major part of the Democratic party. And this seriously troubles me when I see posts like the one at issue.

There are other good Dems out there, I am hardly the only one. My two best friends are Democrats and would be appalled at this post in question.

#153 E2M:

The government didn't own the means of production, but they certainly commanded it.

Well, they tried.

Fascinating discussion in Martin Gilbert's WWII survey (I think) of how Hitler was nowhere near as successful at running a wartime command economy as Stalin was, despite his best efforts.

The hypocrisy of it all is what I find the most amusing part of it. Here you have people who were up in arms over the Danish cartoons, and yet it's perfectly fine to insult Jews

This is where I see the divide in this country.

Instead of republican or democrat, I see shades of right and left.

Make no mistake, the left devour their own in more ways than one.

Was it not during the last election that I recall numerous candidates claiming some inkling of jewish heritage?

#160 St. Pancake

German officials were used, but the government did not nationalize the industries. That is all I am trying to say.

We're splitting semantic hairs. When they command production, and regulate profits, there's not much point in owning stock. The companies in East Germany retained their identities after the commies took over. Most have been reprivatized. But, for example, the Leica optical products company is the same orgnization as from before Nazi times.

165 TotallySirius
What is wonderfully ironic too is the Nazi love of nude male art. Ack!

167 Occasional Reader
Great thought!
German women, for example, were pretty much left out of the war effort, until the final time. Big mistake. Women in the allied countries played important roles.

Catch you in a couple of hours folks.

Good hat tip Quella.

Gotta ride home now.

St. Pancake #170:

The most homophobic people are often the most latently homosexual.

Just look at the Muslim world, and the strange fixation on man-on-man lovin'...

#167 Occasional Reader

Indeed. Hitler's incompitance at micromanaging both the economy and the military was a big help to the allies. What an idiot! He had jet fighters, and insisted they not persue that, but instead develop a heavy bomber...

169 Earth2moonbat
Hmmm for arguments sake, also examine the Meissen works. They were not allowed to create the gorgeous works of art they were so known for prior to marxist nationalization. Now, they are going back to that. I am delighted about that too.

#170 St. P.:

Big mistake.

Our side also made way better war movies.

formercorpsman #171:

Thanks!

Btw, this diary made the "recommended diaries" list. It takes hundreds of recommendations to make that list.

Markos of someone else of his standing saw this diary, and did not edit/censor/delete this entry.

I think this speaks volumes.

Once again, from an historical context, anti-Semitic rhetoric and activism by a growing population of Western peoples is seen as a “solution” to a problem or threat. The Euro/American left has glommed onto the notion that silencing or neutralizing global Jewish viability will make all of this “nastiness” (terrorism/jihadism) go away. It is just mind-boggling that the selective amnesia of the left drives them to this irrational and horrific conclusion. As has so many times been pointed out by rational thinkers, here and elsewhere, the left can’t do jihadi math. Their “Jewish solution” removes one slice of the whole pie, and it is an infidel pie. To blindly do the enemy’s (islamofacism) bidding simply serves to enhance the already voracious appetite of an evil foe. In essence, doing their ‘dirty work’ for them. The leftist/anarchist/anti-Semites merely invite and hasten their own sorry slaughter or subjugation at the hands of a devil incarnate.

175 Occasional Reader
Hehe, we did! The Soviets made some good ones too, believe it or not. Of course, today, they appear ridiculous.

164 St. Pancake

Culture may enter into the picture, but ultimately, communes never have been able to compete with for-profit corporations unless you have some compelling reason for the people to work for less that the going rate. That's what keeps the religious communes afloat. Cheap labor.

172 Quella
We will probably never know really what Hitler's issues were. The book, The Psychopathic God, really made some very wild accusations about Hitler's sexual issues. It would have been great to do autopsies two women prior to Eva Braun to determine some issues.

#173 E2M:

Hitler's incompitance at micromanaging both the economy and the military was a big help to the allies.

One example: The MP-43/44, the forerunner of the Kalashnikov and arguably the first modern assault rifle. The MP stands for "Maschinenpistole"/Machine Pistol, and was used to disguise the fact that it was a rifle; this because Hitler didn't want work to be done on new rifles.

Earth2moonbat
Culture must play a role to have any success. On the other hand, as you say, economics is the bottom line.
Those galloping Amana people are one such example. :)

St pancake

both those women comitted suicide
one was his NEICE
and eva braun
had attempted suicide at least once after being with him

181 Occasional Reader
Well, hell, personally I am delighted that he thought of atomic research as a "jewish science".

On the other hand, have you ever seen those images of German scientists probably working on saame source?

#178 St. P:

The Soviets made some good ones too, believe it or not.

Ah, yes, Casablancograd, how could I forget...

"Of all the vodka joints in all the collective farms in the world, she had to walk into this one..."

183 BabbaZee
Are you certqain it was "suicide"?
That is what is so intersting. One threw herself out the window. Hmmm. The timing was very interesing. This is my point about the autopsy/

PIMF
interesting

#181 OR

I didn't know about the rifles.

LOL

E2m is right about the damage done by Hitler's ordering jet fighter production stopped.

Screw the rocket fighters,they were never practical.

If Germany had mass produced the Me-262 or the cheaper wooden He-162,Germany would have regained air superiority over Europe.

185 Occasional Reader
Lol! The people loved them, and that is what counted at the time.

Today, they are hilarious. Have you ever seen old Soviet films? Love them!

#188 TS:

I didn't know about the rifles.

At the same time, on our side, for the life of me I don't understand why the Garand wasn't developed as a box magazine-fed assault rifle with full-auto capability. The concept was already around (the BAR), and eventually that's what they pretty much did anyway (the M-14 as I understand it is something of a revamped Garand), if Mr. Garand had just jumped straight to this step in 1937 it seems to me our GIs would have had a huge advantage on the battlefield.

186 St. Pancake
pretty certain
I have to go rustle grub
but i will look through my books & links later
and repost here what I find

191 BabbaZee
I know it will suicide. Her name was Renate Muller, btw.
The problem for historians is that we must rely upon German sources. See whatis intersting here?

StPC: Actually, the German Volkswagen was still a private company. It is a myth that there was a monolithic government control.
German officials were used, but the government did not nationalize the industries. That is all I am trying to say.

Professor Ray addresses Hitler the capitalist;

Hitler was named "Man of the Year" in 1938 by Time Magazine. They noted Hitler's anti-capitalistic economic policies:

"Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism."
[Source: Time Magazine; Jaunuary 2, 1939.]

On the other hand, we may never know. Not trying tostir anything, but I find it interesting that we must rely solely on German sources for accounts of her death.

Interesting anyway.

193 Terp Mole
Hehe, thanks. I am still going with my original post here. Time has never been one of my favorite sources. Notice too the date.

Anyway, I am willing to stay here all night, lol! Pre-WWII actually.

The business owners still reaped profits. I will not excuse them in order to prove that nazi was this or that.

91 Kenneth 6/15/2006 02:36PM PDT

Well put. Some people here, when I first started posting on LGF, patiently walked me through this issue. It took them a while to convince me, but they did it. That doesn't mean I am any good at explaining it to others. I think I'll copy and save your comment for future reference.

Mussolini allied himself with the industrialists and large landowners at the expense of the lower classes too.

saint panny
I do see

Nor did Hitler, Franco, or Mussolini absorb, or kill off the aristrocracy as did the Soviets.

159 TotallySirius 6/15/2006 03:14PM PDT
#152 Quella

You may be the only sensible Democrat left.

I'm a registered Democrat. :)

198 BabbaZee
That is what is damning. We rely upon German sources for all of this. Who knows though?

Why so many suicides amoung the girlfriends?

Cattt #200:

Hello to a fellow Dem!

There are plenty of decent, sane Democrats out there. The problem is only that the DKos/Move On/Huffington Posters are increasingly wielding a scary influence on the party...

wasn't developed as a box magazine-fed assault rifle with full-auto capability. The concept was already around (the BAR), and eventually that's what they pretty much did anyway (the M-14 as I understand it is something of a revamped Garand), if Mr. Garand had just jumped straight to this step in 1937 it seems to me our GIs would have had a huge advantage on the battlefield.

Too heavy.
If anyone has had to carry that on a ten mile hike, after about 5 miles you are dreaming of an M-16.
Then they made us carry twice as much ammunition for the M-16, same weight.
M-16 Rifle, 39 inches long, 6.5 lb empty, 7.6 lb loaded,
M-14 Full magazine and sling: 11.0 pounds (5.0 kilograms)

The Nazis were into a lot of sick shit but they didn't tolerate open homosexuality.

Professor Ray addresses Homosexual Roots of the Nazi Party

To the myth of the "pink triangle"-the notion that all homosexuals in Nazi Germany were persecuted-we must respond with the reality of the "pink swastika."

Here is a critical difference, of course, if you think I am simply splitting hairs, that is fine too.

Industry was not nationalized. To some Nazis, it was irrelevant who owned the means of production so long as the business owners recognized their master.

#204 ibmkeyboard:

If anyone has had to carry that on a ten mile hike, after about 5 miles you are dreaming of an M-16.

Sure, but I wasn't comparing to an M-16, I was comparing to an M-1.

#203 Quella

The problem is only that the DKos/Move On/Huffington Posters are increasingly wielding a scary influence on the party...

You're confirming Babba's thesis about the Gramscians.

205 Terp Mole
I can still argue with some of this. Some Nazis, yes, were more ambiguous about homosexuality.
On the other hand, this author from what I gather so far neglects the traditional South German antipathy towards homosexuals. It was strong, btw.

StPC: Mussolini allied himself with the industrialists and large landowners at the expense of the lower classes too.

Professor Ray addresses Mussolini the industrialist;

In Mussolini's own words

Let us listen initially to some reflections on the early days of Fascism by Mussolini himself -- first published in 1935 (See the third chapter in Greene, 1968).

"If the bourgeoisie think they will find lightning conductors in us they are the more deceived; we must start work at once ... We want to accustom the working class to real and effectual leadership".

And that was Mussolini quoting his own words from the early Fascist days. So while Mussolini had by that time (in his 30s) come to reject the Marxist idea of a class-war, he still saw himself as anti-bourgeois and as a saviour and leader of the workers. What modern-day Leftist could not identify with that?

"Therefore I desire that this assembly shall accept the revindication of national trades unionism"

Another great source on German social attitudes towards various groups is the Before the Deluge. The author is Otto Friedrich.

210 Terp Mole
What I said was true, actually. The reality was different from what you quote.

Quella,Cattt

I heard today that the Dems are coming out with a "contract for America" type of thing but have postponed the announcement.

That was the first I heard about it,do either of you have any insight?

Another source I enjoy is Jackson Spielvogel.

TotallySirius #213:

I have no idea re: this contract.

210 Terp Mole
Lol, this is fun!

#202 St. Pancake
supposedly he was a scatalogical pervert and a sado masochist and heavily conflicted over his sexual gender prefernces

also a mammas boy LOL

all believable, but I guess the theory is
he must have done such horrible perversions to these girlfriednds
that they could not live with themselves
or the memory
i remeber reading something about eva braun saying there was no sex at all between them
she was a beard
but my hitler books are still in a box in the basement I see

not digging that out now

will look for links though

Huffington posters=Huffers

See LGF dictionary

217 BabbaZee
There are some really, really weird statements. Actually reading about Hitler was the first time I heard of some alleged perversions.

217 BabbaZee
Try something grosser than sado-maschomism.

Oops,
sadomasochism

StPC: What I said was true, actually. The reality was different from what you quote.

Evidence? Linkies?

222 Terp Mole
Masters in history. Been teaching for 22 years.

222 Terp Mole
If you would like a bibliography, then I can make that up. Unfortunatly, my notes are on disk.
Please understand that I am not trying to be ugly. Teaching history is very serious business to me.

Durn my corneas, lol
unfortunately

#215 Quella

The actual name was something different.

Rush Limbaugh mentioned it today but I only heard a few seconds(some Harley riders had their radio really loud*)

All I heard was that they had some big announcement about their plans for the future,something similar to Newt's contract for America,and that after recent events(Kos Konvention,Zarqman?) they have indefinitely postponed the announcement.

*There's a big motorcycle event here at the fairgrounds(Delaware,Ohio) this weekend,I'm the grounds electrician.

I control the lightning!

StPC: Masters in history. Been teaching for 22 years.

So, you appreciate the value of evidence... preferably the extemporaneous variety.

227 Terp Mole
Sorry, there are many souces in history. One has to consider many, many sources when making one's mind.

Dr, Sanderson has a good site, btw.

#226 TotallySirius,

All I heard was that they had some big announcement about their plans for the future,something similar to Newt's contract for America,and that after recent events(Kos Konvention,Zarqman?) they have indefinitely postponed the announcement.

If true, that's a poor decision on their part. Nationalizing the election would be Congressional Democrats' best move, given the poor GOP/Bush approval numbers right now.

On topic, despite my presumably large domestic policy agreements with the "Kossacks" (and who the hell chose such an offensive term there?), I doubt I'll ever see a whole lot to agree with them on when it comes to the Middle East.

StPC: Unfortunatly, my notes are on disk.

Sounds a little... floppy? %P

Lizards require hard evidence.

He is also very approachable, as is Dr. Spielvogel.

231 Terp Mole
Hehe, ask Dr. Sanderson, or Dr. Rice, or Dr. Spielvogel, or many others.

Anyway, I hold my own any day.

231 Terp Mole
May I ask what your profession is?

Whereas previous wars -- the war for independence in 1948, the Suez crisis in 1956, the Six Days War in 1967 -- had been fought largely on Israel's terms, the 1973 war nearly succeeded in overwhelming the state's defenses. The result was evisceration of public confidence in the government and, by extension, the Labor Party.

The Israeli win in 1948 was a miracle, and one of the modern lies jew haters try to spread is that the israelis weren't really so out numbered nor outgunned. Only after the 1948 war did jews feel more certain and the failure in 1973 to destroy and humilate the arabs as in 1967 as a shock. The other change that led to likud was the increasing polical influence of no-european israeli jews, those who escaped from oppression in arab lands. So now kos shows his racism against darker skinned jews?

StPC: Lol, this is fun!

Agreed.

As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
--Proverbs 27:17 --

StPC: May I ask what your profession is?

Muckracker
Political Assassin
Anti-Unitard Unicyclist

Jamie #230:

Same. Though I disagree with the Kos approach to social issues - namely, the multi culti approach.

And it was Markos Moulitas who chose the "Kossacks" mantra. I believe.

Anyway, of course few within the Kos community are probably aware of what a "Kossack" actually means...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

236 Terp Mole
Hehe!
Anyway, Spielvogel is a great historian who is not PC, and he has written extensively on the subject. I use his textbook btw. I met him at a dinner a few years ago.

Anyway, I wish you could see my library of books. Unfortunately, or fortunately, I did my work prior to PC infestation. I do take my subject very, very seriously.

#230 Jamie

The cossacks weren't a bad people,the Soviets persecuted them and villianized them by using the word in a derogatory manner...because they were kicking the Bolshevic's asses.

Wiki-cossack

addendum #240

Therefore I agree that "Kossack" is inappropriate because it is an insult to "cossacks".

237 Terp Mole
Hahahaha!
If that is you, I am rofl!
*Smile*

TotallySirius #240:

Kossacks were extremely anti-semetic, and engaged in pogroms of Jewish shtetls throughout Eastern Europe. They were largely responsible for Jews fleeing Eastern Europe for America and what was at the time "Palestine."

StPC: If that is you, I am rofl!

Anti- Anti!
Damn you!

243 Quella
Yes, the Cossocks were historically very anti-semitic.

Great, I love when someone tosses out history stuff!

Woohoo!

But I will refrain from talking about the Don Cossacks or the Dnieper ones.

244 Terp Mole
anti-anti?
Lmao!
What does that result in btw?

#40 Sharona

Quella or anyone remember BarryAnnArbor's post about Anti-Israeli bias on KOS a couple days ago?

#63 Quella

Terp Mole #60:

Huh? Hitler was a fascist. He put communists in concentration camps.

Sure don't want to offend anybody, but the Austrian corporal was a National Socialist. Also, very few communists were sent to concentration camps, most were summarily executed - on the spot - as Herr Hitler hated communists almost as much as he hated Jews.

Socialism under the Nazis had been "Aryanized", that is, cleansed of "influences" from the evil Jew, Karl Marx. Communism was the "purest" form of socialism and came into being in 1917 following the Bolshevik Revolution that brought Kameraden Lenin to power.

Both ideologies hold dear May 1 as International Workers Day.

Capitalism, Communism, Fascism, Socialism = Economic models

Democracy, Totalitarianism = Political models

To be simple.

249 RadicalRon
Thank you.

248 fluffy
Durn, still cannot remember.
It was listed on two different threads too.

#230 Jamie

If true, that's a poor decision on their part. Nationalizing the election would be Congressional Democrats' best move, given the poor GOP/Bush approval numbers right now.

Based on what issues, "We don't like Bush either"?

#172 Quella

The most homophobic people are often the most latently homosexual.

Your slip is showing (no, not Freudian).

Home late again.

Fluffy #248:

Yes, I remember it. It was a spot on post. You can see it right here:

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

256 Quella
Thank you.

255 easy
Hi there!

#256

Thanks Quella!

Usually the KOS posts gives me headaches. I was able to read quite a bit of that one as the posters seemed civil.

It only took two days for the Borg collective to prove Barry right.

StPC: What does that result in btw?

Intellectual consistency

Hehe, same source.
*smile*

Have you visited Dacau, by chance?

Getting your teeth knocked out by a thug is no fun, but even worse when you agree to be castrated in order to avoid the hassle.

http://members.aol.com/dalembert/lgbt_history/bibl io_al.html

If you further take into account the facts that I have not yet mentioned, namely that with a static number of women, we have two million men too few on account of those who fell in the war, then you can well imagine how this imbalance of two million homosexuals and two million war dead, or in other words a lack of about four million men capable of having sex, has upset the sexual balance sheet of Germany, and will result in a catastrophe.
I would like to develop a couple of ideas for you on the question of homosexuality. There are those homosexuals who take the view: what I do is my business, a purely private matter. However, all things which take place in the sexual sphere are not the private affair of the individual, but signify the life and death of the nation, signify world power...

There are many, many sources. Too many to list, but I did enclose a partial bibliography.

No credence was placed in a simple change of opinion by
homosexuals, such as was granted to Jehovah's Witnesses, who were
not taken entirely seriously, or even to political prisoners. Two
categories were seen among homosexuals: the constitutionally
hard-boiled homosexual and the occasional offender. Since in
neither case was the Aryan status of the homosexual in doubt, all
could remain alive. If necessary, homosexuals were to be
castrated, but they were permitted to continue to work. As a
matter of policy, extermination was therefore restrained. In
practice there were other contrary impulses on the part of the SS,
and those who wore the pink triangle met an unusually harsh fate.
The social controls directed at homosexuals within the camp
represented a continuation and an intensification of social
controls imposed by society at large.

http://www.mtsu.edu/~baustin/lautmann.html

easy: Fascism = Economic model

Huh?

The word "fascism" comes from fascio (plural: fasci), which may mean "bundle," as in a political or militant group or a nation, but also from the fasces (rods bundled around an axe), which were an ancient Roman symbol of the authority of magistrates. The Italian Fascisti were also known as Black Shirts for their style of uniform incorporating a black shirt (See Also: political colour).

Merriam-Webster defines fascism as "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition".

264 St. Pancake
Himmler is the source of the quote.

267 Terp Mole
Yes, the word comes from the tying into ancient Roman empire. That was apart of the ultra-nationalistic face of the philosophy.

#78 storagemanager

hamas and the rest of Islam just kill.

Bullshit.

Nevertheless, there were economic, social, and cultural factors of fascism, along with the political factors.

Hey Sarah!

Have you moved yet?

#172 Quella

The most homophobic people are often the most latently homosexual.

Uh, care to like...prove that? Links or something?

sarah D:

The most homophobic people are often the most latently homosexual.

Uh, care to like...prove that? Links or something?

Professor Ray addresses Homosexual Roots of the Nazi Party;

To the myth of the "pink triangle"-- the notion that all homosexuals in Nazi Germany were persecuted-- we must respond with the reality of the "pink swastika."

275 Terp Mole
Lol!
We are back to that one source!

Hehe, you are one persistant guy.