Sick Bastards!

RoPMA.

He lacks any shred of humanity.

I weep for my country, and for the families and loved ones of those in Iraq and Afghanistan, those yet living and those already dead.

Yet living?

Sounds like he wants more dead soldiers.

Typical response.
Trying to Capitolize and use the atrocities of Terrorists to justify their hatred of America.
Disgusting.

Yep as I expected..

A good day for the Democratic party

And a proud day for far left liberals everywhere

They are indeed the shame of our country

May these two brave young men and their families find the peace they so richly deserve.

It is dumb sick bastards.

This is the results of the failure of US schools systems. Teaching kids how to get in touch with their feelings instead of teaching them how to think.

When you process facts from feeling you get stupid, illogical and moronic results like the KOS jerks.

Americain

Sounds like he wants more dead soldiers.

Of course he does. No dead soldiers means we are winning and winning for the USA means failure for him and his cause.

I'm really, really starting to hate these bastards (terrorists and our own leftist retards)!

What does sewing have to do with reaping?

As ye sew?

Torture is only wrong when it involves putting panties on someones head or stacking them naked in a pyramid.

What? No more "screw 'em"?

How quaint...

/sarc

Kos. Classy members as always.

Morning all.

This cannot stand. We cannot allow this administration and its incomprehensible defense of and support for torture in violation of the “quaint” Geneva Conventions to remain.

The chickens have come home to roost. As ye sew, so shall ye reap.

Someone forgets that beheadings have been a favorite pasttime sport of Islam for centuries. Mulsims torturing others did not start because we are in Iraq.

Panties placed on your head is not the same as having your head slowly sawed off. Funny how the Kidz can't seem to grasp that.

"As ye sew[sic], so shall ye reap"

Why do they always do this? Always couch a defense of animals like the terrorists in terms of "response to US affronts" rather than the truth... the nature of terrorists? It's the same blame the vicitm mentality so many apologists and appeasniks are disposed to embrace, and it's always the same stupidly myopic drivel.

I weep for my country? And just what country is that, dipsh*t?

Without wrapping myself in patriotism, the sheer lack of humanity in that piece of crap puts him on an island of his own making.

No way does a member of any society make a statement like that without identifying himself as a sociopath, and I mean that quite literally.

Sleep well yourself; you'll need your energy when you get to hell.

I guess a simple "our prayers go out to their families" would not have sufficed" idiots!

Yes we should pull out now and let these people turn Iraq into the wonderland it would be if it wasn't for us. Just like the good old days when Saddam's people danced around with flowers in their hair, and everyone lived free of cares until they were 110.

No words.

The pathology of the majority of DKos posters is just sickening.

Whatever happens at Abu Ghraib (which I don't excuse) has no effect on what the al quaida monsters are doing - they will torture no matter what.

And anyone who fails to see that is ignoring reality.

These two brave men are killed with a rusty knife to the throat, and these piece of sh*t libs compare that to throwing a Queer-an in the crapper or a dog barking at a guy.

F*ck Kos

He does want more dead soldiers, so long as they are American soldiers. This self-loathing POS deserves worse; the kos blog is like Madame Dafarge's knitting: keep track of the names as we will ultimately need them.

And if the dark forces of kos triumph, they will surely show us no mercy as well.

I am sorry for the soldiers and the loved ones they left behind. We all owe them a debt of gratitude, even the smug on kos.

May God rest these brave souls and their deaths avenged quickly.

#7 loppyd

No dead soldiers means we are winning and winning for the USA means failure for him and his cause.

Yep.

LIBERALS ARE TRAITORS!

i'm fully convinced juan cole & zuniga snowball each other whenever news like this comes out.

pity the poor lads.

The chickens have come home to roost. As ye sew, so shall ye reap.

Either they can't spell at Kos or they don't know much about agriculture.

As ye sow, Kos.

... and as long as your job is to WRITE, learn to read as well.

It is not SEW: farmers SOW and then REAP. Seamstresses sew.

Oh yeah, and spoiled, leftists sociopaths spew hate. Spew. Not Spow.

Its cases like these that underscore my fervent belief that the rulebook goes out the window when fighting animals like these Islamists. They deserve neither our pity, mercy, or understanding. As to the hue and cry of people declaiming that that would make us no better than them, I really don't care. They should be hunted down as mercilessly and ruthlessly as possible.

#9 armed
What does sewing have to do with reaping?
#10 Silhouette

I think you two missed a memo. The new spelling is 'sew'. 'Sow' is a female pig and is offensive to Islam.

Americain #23:

I disagree. The Kos Kidz are not liberals, rather, they are idiots who give liberals a bad name.

To be a liberal implies some level of minimal thought process that many of the Kidz lack.

They really are lower than Whale shit. Nothing but a bunch of punks.

I weep for my country, and for the families and loved ones of those in Iraq and Afghanistan, those yet living and those already dead.

Peace

Yeah,tears of joy, tools to be used to further your chickenshit agenda.

from the Komments...

Bush deserves full blame for this and anything like this that will happen in the future.

Behold BDS at work. No matter how often I see this stuff it always amazes me.

I wonder if the majority of the KOS jerks are islamic.

US troops kill terrorists.

LLL reaction: War crime! America is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Terrorists kill US troops.

LLL reaction: Our fault for sending our troops there! America is wrong, wrong, wrong.

For once, I also agree with Michael Savage.

Liberalism, if this is even considered Liberalism, is a disease.

Sick people, with a sick audience.

I'm not venturing into the Reality-Based Commune™ today.

Instead of signing off with "Peace." they should've signed off with "Surrender."

May they rest in peace... They are my heros. The "left" are,,, well,, trash. How do we take out the trash?

#29 Quella
As much as I'd like to reclaim the label "liberal", we're outnumbered and there's little chance of getting it back anytime soon.

My prayers go out to all those families who have lost loved ones defending our freedom and trying to keep the country safe. May the bds msm someday get a clue and understand this is bigger than GW.

And may the kos kids and all those who wish America's downfall rot in pig chit.

The "kos", and all who post there, will ALL close their eyes to this life, eventually!

It is pretty clear, that they will be "goats to the left".

Their filthy, traitorous slime spewing mouths will never be heard again,

FOREVER!

The "quaint" quality of the Geneva Convention that Gonzales was commenting on is that it requires captors to provide their prisoners with sports uniforms and equipment for recreation. That indeed does seem quaint considering the nature of our enemies today.

Nothing surprising here. Just showing their true colors; the colors of hating America. Has anyone ever had any other expectation from the Kos crowd? It's not like they have a history supporting America, except in failure.

Laughable book sales, continued decline in web site traffic, openly supporting enemies of America, cheering for America's failure; these are the things that define the words Loser and Kos, alike.

Kos ain't weeping---he's laughing. They support the troops. Yeah. Right.

I thought it was extremely "quaint" how he blames Bush, et al, for the soldiers' deaths, rather than those who actually killed and tortured them.

Quaint indeed.

You have to wonder what kinds of jobs these folks have, when they seem to have such hateful attitudes and repeat the same talking points over and over.

Brent #34:

That's just it...this is not liberalism. It's non-thoughtism. It's "let's blame America for everything we possibly can-ism."

*sighs*

Another attempt to generate outrage, and traffic, with a remark worse then 'Screw'Em'.

#29 Quella

I disagree. The Kos Kidz are not liberals, rather, they are idiots who give liberals a bad name.

To be a liberal implies some level of minimal thought process that many of the Kidz lack.

So what's Jack Murtha's excuse then?

He's a Liberal and a traitor.

I DID NOT need to read this mental gymnastic exerecise this morning. Now I won't be able to properly think through anything. I have never read such "reach around to grab my ass" twistedness to still be able to condemn who they want in my life!

So now, let's see:

US security contractors protecting food shipments are butchered and torn apart: "Screw 'em".

US troops are captured and tortured: "It's Bush's fault, the Iraqi Freedom Fighters were force to use torture because Bush did first."

I hate these people. I truly do.

Geez, it's so clear that the Kos Kids, for all their "noble" speeches, and "high" values, are really only in it for making a political point. They have no virtue. They have no mercy. They have no sympathy. The horrors and atrocities in the world, the grief and sorrow of others, only serves (in their own minds) to prove them right. They're selling their souls to the idol of their own correct judgement.

How sad for them when someday they discover that their golden idol was created by themselves, and is really just spraypainted wax.

Nothing like a little moral equivilance BS to start the day.....

As ye sew, so shall ye reap.

Yet again, the godless lefties try to use the Bible but are too stupid to quote it (or spell) correctly.

Die, lefty scum.

Because Al-Qaida abides by the Geneva Convention and normally wouldn't have subject American soldiers to torture -- or any other prisoners for that matter. It's only because of the dastardly deeds of Alberto Gonzales and John Ashcroft that the terrorists behave so badly.

/banging head against the wall

Killgore Trout #38:

I am still optimistic for the future. For one, these people don't even call themselves "liberal," they consider themselves "progressive." They go out of their way to seperate themselves from the so-called "DLC Democrats." This situation cannot sustain itself forever.

Perhaps there is hope for American political discourse yet.

Perhaps.

I had no idea those Kos Kids were good at sewing. I can hardly put on a button.

/they are too dumb to live

Did I miss something? When did the Moslems sign on to the Geneva Convention?

I will agree to that; the extreme left has gone way past left, way past liberalism.

That's where my sociopath comment came from; these people no longer have a place in any real society. No wonder the anarchists love them so much, no wonder they root for the murderers.

To put it more quaintly; they ain't right in the head.

No way does a member of any society make a statement like that without identifying himself as a sociopath, and I mean that quite literally.

Before he became too ill to write or speak the legendary political sociologist, Seymour Martin Lipset, predicted that the next revolutionary political movement in the US would be a leftist anarchy movement. The irony is between the term "movement" and "anarchy", which is supposed to make the individual sovereign. But the primary shift within the left has been from individual rights (mostly positive economic rights) to "group rights" which, rather ironically, fuels the anarchists' intensity.

Brent (#16) is correct, that these are the words of a sociapath, but it also looks to be a growing group pathology.

These Kos types are more foul than excrement. There is no word in the english language vile enough to describe them.

May these soldiers rest in peace. WE are proud of their bravery.

nevertheless let them have their say. Let them keep showing themselves for what they are, and what lies beneath the veneer of the Demagoguic party. They'll pay in November.

And Ned lamont along with them.

#49 Quella

You know, you may be on to something, there. Let's quit calling KOS and DU "Liberal". Take that (use to be) respectable label away from them. Kinda like the word, "Gay" and "Fag". Take back the original meaning and make the nutsos just plain irrelevent. Call them what they truly are.

Any nominations for perlmanent labeling?

Americain #47:

Murtha is a political opportunist who saw an opening for his career, and seized it. Lest we forget, he already announced he is running for House Majority Leader, should the Dems take the House in 2006. All his moves have been carefully strategized.

#28 Bweep

Bingo!

Hey, don't these asses remember Vietnam circa 1975? We leave so the "liberators" can win and install a "liberal" regime. So...how many thousands were slaughtered by the Commies and how many more were tortured and brutalized in "re-education camps?" Why do any of these butt wipes think anything else would happen if we left now? Cut and run produces: 1) a defeat for the U.S. military, 2) a "win" for the libs; and 3) a civil war for the people of Iraq. That civil war probably puts Iran in charge since the Shiites are the majority and may ally themselves with their co-religionists in Iran in the event of civil war. The Shiites would probably ethnically cleanse "Shia" territory, as would the Kurds in the north. Then the Sunnis would have to call for help from Syria and Saudi Arabia. Then asses like Murtha would say, ah well, let them have at it but keep our guys out. I hope he has a windmill in his front yard and a solar cell for his new car engine!

Kos Punks and head-cutters are morally equal. Barbaric pig pukes.

My debate with a KOS-loving liberal has ended over this site:

[Link: www.superunicorn.com...]

I couldn't take it anymore, my blood pressure was through the roof. But its fairly typical of KOS liberals.

#28-

I think you two missed a memo. The new spelling is 'sew'. 'Sow' is a female pig and is offensive to Islam.

Brilliant! And it gives me an idea- stop wasting high explosives on the bad guys. Instead- strap JDAM kits onto frozen pigs (more aerodynamic than when thawed) and voila! Hi-tech kinetic-energy penetrators guaranteed to piss off the terrorists, PETA, and moral-equivalency types all at once.

#61 Woops, I meant to site Quella's #29

howyadoin #61:

I simply like the word "moonbat." I think that encapsulates who they are and what they believe in quite nicely.

If anything, he'll be running for house minority leader.....

Time for a new party to rise up and replace the Dumbocruds.

#49 Occasional Reader - morning OR. As I said on the Dead thread about this, the term KosKids is just no longer appropriate, we need something more accurately descriptive like: KosTraitors or some such.
HATE is an awfully strong word to use, but I HATE 'em all too.

#61 name...

Irreleventsia...? The Sociopathic Workers Party?

Nuts?

The cause of left-wing lunatics presses on with the news of evil acts and murder.

Congratulations, Markos. You are officially no longer human. Your own perverted ideals of far-left lunacy has rendered you a brainless, soul-less prick.

brent #61:

Actually, I LOVE your two choices:

Irreleventsia, and The Sociopathic Workers Party

on this day we find we must must must resolve to wipe out all these [bigoted word]s, and what does the grey lady splash on the main site?

Safavian Is Found Guilty in Lobbyist Trial

*spit*

As hard as the cruel deaths of these brave soldiers are to accept, there is one ray of light in all this:

They FEAR us.

They knew if they kept these soldiers alive and tried to use them for propaganda purposes, we would have relentlessly hunted them down, just as we hunted down Zarqawi.

So they got rid of them quickly. Of course, they took time to indulge their barbaric impulses first. Sick scum.

The "sew" thing is funny primarily because it is exactly the sort of mistake one would expect from people who've never read the Bible, but just heard it quoted (presumably, at them). It's dummicrats trying to talk "god."
We're going to hear more of it as we approach the elections later this year. As we already know, there is our treasure. Or something like that.

#29 Quella

The leftist kooks have highjacked the term "liberal".

George Clooney even said so, himself.

The leftist kooks have also highjacked the Democratic party.

I am a rare conservative in my family, whom most have voted Dem for decades, with the exception of voting for Reagan.

I have one sister who agree's with slime like "kos", but for the rest, they are sickened by what the leftist kooks have done to the Democratic party, and most are starting to wake up to the fact, that the leftist kooks, are a very real danger to America.

When they see, and hear things, like what "kos" stands for, many of them talk about not voting Dem anymore.

So, I believe it is good for conservative causes, for idiots like "kos", to keep spewing their American hatred, their hatred of our troops, their hatred of our military,and their hatred of anyone who doesn't "sign on" to their twisted, dangerous leftist kook idiology.

As long as they are tied together with Democrats, the Dems will continue to lose major elections.

Watch, and see.

The "kos", and most other kooks like them, are why "liberals" are looked at as they are today, because they are not "liberal" anymore, they are leftist kooks!

The "kos" continually insures that.

The fact that these soliders were not kept longer to get the maximum amount of media coverage means that the terrorists are on the run over there. Had Zarqawi been alive and able to function these men would have been kept and tortured for days with dozens of tapes sent to Al'Jazeera.

As it stands they were killed and dumped as fast as the terrorists could get rid of them. Thats a sign to me that we have them on the run.

My heart goes out to their families.

#73 thanks!

This had me so pissed, that I think it's got me on a roll....

In TV terms, the 'kids just jumped the shark. Contractors dying are OK because they're not real military. Now military deaths (by beheading, no less) is OK because - well, because. Bush.

Jump, Fonzie, jump.

I'm surprised Markos doesn't have his own line of Che themed shirts....

Two things not to forget...

The Daily "Screw'Em Kos" backtracked, because they lie, when called out over the original remarks mocking the Americans burned, mutilated and hung from the bridge in Fallujah.

This is made even more clear by the recent remarks made by Kos himself on CNN

So never forget that John Kerry(D), Barbara Boxer(D), Howard Dean(D), Harry Reid(D), Tom Vilsack(D), Joe Trippi(D), Wesley Clark(D), Hillary Clinton(D), Mark Warner(D)... all associate with the anti-Semitic, Anti-American, Kos-sacks.

#61

How about "Satan's skidmarks"?

I'm sure the video of the deaths will surface shortly. They're angels now and beyond it, and those pukes at Kos do not deserve to walk the same earth.

To give them fairness they would give no one else, I think the 'quaint' remark is referencing something Alberto Gonzales said about the Geneva Conventions. Gonzales was right. And these guys are wrong. These guys are lower than a snot glob you'd find on the sidewalk in lower Manhattan.

#61 howyadoin?

You know, you may be on to something, there. Let's quit calling KOS and DU "Liberal". Take that (use to be) respectable label away from them. Kinda like the word, "Gay" and "Fag". Take back the original meaning and make the nutsos just plain irrelevent. Call them what they truly are.

Any nominations for perlmanent labeling?

A while back, I believe it was Zombie who suggested getting rid of the liberal/conservative and left/right labeling and using something like totalitarian supporting vs. freedom loving (that's not it, but something like it).

I'll see if I can find the post...

#71 brent:

Irreleventsia

Oh you just KNOW I'm stealing that one. Perfect.

KOS=POS.

#62 Quella

Murtha is a political opportunist who saw an opening for his career, and seized it. Lest we forget, he already announced he is running for House Majority Leader, should the Dems take the House in 2006. All his moves have been carefully strategized.

Murtha wasn't running for HML when he wanted us to cut and run from Somalia.

Every last one of these little pricks

remind me of that demon possessed
obnoxious brat "Rhoda"
from "The Bad Seed"

"AND I HIT HIM WITH MY SHOE AGAIN!"

"THE PENMANSHIP MEDAL WAS MINE!"

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

With resepct to the sentiments expressed by the Kos kids, I think I speak for all of us when I say, "Huh?"

Do they actually think that we started the cycle of violence and this is mere payback? Again, few people over at Kos know history and those that do subscribe to a revisionist view where the US is always the bad guy- even in WWII.

The Kos kids want us to NOT follow the Geneva Convnetion? Fine. We treat the terrorists the same way they treat us, and not just putting panties on their head and making them wear dog collars (which, I believe, is something some of the Kos kids do every Saturday night)

Also, that is a good example of seditious speech at the top of this thread.

#49 Occasional Reader - morning OR. As I said on the Dead thread about this, the term KosKids is just no longer appropriate,

OK, at the risk of really sounding shrill and nasty:

KosK*nts

Never forget, that the likes of Jack Murtha, Michael Moore, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, Algore,the "daily kos", and the rest of their ilk, consider the murderous thugs who killed our soldiers, "freedom fighters"!

I believe that the leftist kooks in America, actually like to see our soldiers die, more than the islamic slime who kill them, all in the name of "islam, the religion of peace"!

The leftist party line,

"We support our troops, but, but, but, but, but, but, but"!

The truth is, that the left hates our military, and they have very publicly, since the 1960's!

The really obscene thing is that the Kosites are courted by Democrat politicians and lauded by the NY and LA Times.

DUBAI (Reuters) - The new leader of al Qaeda in Iraq "slit the throats" of two U.S. soldiers whose bodies were found in Baghdad, according to a statement posted on the Internet on Tuesday.

There's no immediate way to verify this claim, but let's just say that Abu Hamza al-Muhajir's tenure with Al Qaeda in Iraq won't be nearly as long or illustrious as Zarqawi's. If there's a higher position than #1 on our (s)hit list, Muhajir has just attained it. We should hope this a**wipe keeps himself ritually clean in his nether regions, because we've got a "Hellfire Colonic" in store for him.

#66 McBain

I admit that the idea of the GPS-guided pigbomb is hilarious. Alas, not feasible in the slightest.

Others suggested that the main division is between "collectivists" and "individualists".

Osama Bin Porkchop #80:

The amusing thing, is that I live in NYC and see "progressives" wear Che shirts all the time, and not even know what they are wearing! I actually went into a kid's store, and saw a Che finger puppet.

Witness: finger puppet Che!

Che the doll!

republic #77:

It deeply saddens me to see the Kos Kidz completely sabotage the Dem chance of taking the House or Senate when they engage in such non-thought. I have reached the stage where I have real fears about voting Dem, out of concerns for what the base is becoming. That said, I don't feel Republican, either.

We'll see what happens come November, and who the choices are.

The terrorists are really quite stupid. Here they had the opportunity to hold two US soldiers, offer the international media the opportunity to interview them and play the American media and Left like a Strativarius. Instead, they apparently butchered our guys and did nothing more than create a hunger for revenge within our Marines and soldiers they simply will not be able to believe.

I would not want to be a terrorist in Iraq right now because the world is going to fall on them courtesy of the United States military. Expect the number of terrorists killed in Iraq to go up significantly over the next couple of days and weeks.

Now then, what's that about the Senate Dems plan to withdraw troops from Iraq? Will they be shameless enough to present their plan in the Senate in the wake of this news? (I know, stupid question)

Daily Kos Kidz? Call 'em what they are. Kostraitors. Kinda rolls smoothly off the tongue. Like the slime they are.

How very, very sad for these two young men and the families they leave behind. Hopefully our military is even now working on a proper response to the subhuman scum responsible for this barbarity. And to the morally confused denizens of Kozville, if this incident doesn't clearly enough illustrate the difference between the coalition and the insurgency, you're simply not paying attention.

I weep for my country, and for the families and loved ones of those in Iraq and Afghanistan, those yet living and those already dead.

Peace.

The only weeping this fuckwad ever did was when his mother threw out his 40 year old ass.

#94 I would expect if Abu Hamza al-Muhajir is his "heir apparent", then he will be over the edge shortly. Who wouldn't be? To be known as responsible for that, to know what happened to your predecesor, to know what's expected of you from all the other terrorists that will follow you and "look up to you". He could end up being worse in a shorter amount of time available to him. Manic?

They used to shoot traitors, didn't they?

#71 brent

I really like The Sociopathic Workers Party. We can even abbreviate it SWP. Looks like sewp. Traitor sewp.

No sewp for you! One week!

How about "Satan's skidmarks"?

AKA the "SS".

How appropriate.

Al Muhajir has big shoes to to fill... expect him to try HARDto prove himself. In so doing, he'll make a fatal mistake, probably very quickly. He doesn't have the shred of rationality that Doenitz had on May 8th 1945 to sign the unconditional surrender.

These sick bastards have no place in civilized, western society. Let them take their hate for America and their love of socialist dictators to some, "People's Republic". I am frankly, fed up with their attempt to have this country capitulate to moon worshipping pigs.

Time to buy more ammo and go to the range.

Ahem...

Check? Check! Is this mic working? Check!
______________

Fellow LGFers, before we gloat and grin too broadly, it would be child's play to cherry-pick the posts here at LGF, and come up with all sorts that show the Idiocy of the Neocons, so to speak. Trivial.

Let's face it: we all (and I especially, it seems) get an urge at times to wax poetic in our posts. So?

The bottom line is that the sanguine pool of Libs over at Kos truely feel that we are in a quagmire, in Iraq in particular in error and against our country's founding principles. On some level, I do too wonder whether we're accomplishing all that we could be: it seems to me that our hands are self-tied in many ways, trying so damned hard to avoid 'war crimes', which have, like high-school GPAs, inflated to include almost anything a soldier does in violence.

And Kos Kidz wax poetic. OK. It is amusing, and I am happy that Charles occasionally displays one of the more GQ Kos fishies that his dragnet sweeps in. Amusing.

I note in the rhetoric though the 'dehumanizing' that gives the words legs: this administration, harkening back to a '1984' Orwellian / 13 Monkeys / Blade Runner type faceless, Germanic, authoritarian, rule-bound, inflexible group of people, compared to "Our President and his cabinet", which sounds human, humane, just the opposite. Are we occasionally guilty of the same rhetorical props? Actually I think we are just as prone to selective casting. Just from a different position.

A conversation with a group of Europeans and Asians the other day was very revealing about the non-American's view of our pretensions. In a nutshell, the world is by-and-large confused about America. It seems to them that we're forever fighting internally over every issue, large and small. They wonder how such a great economic and cultural nation could ever have gotten 'here' with such institutionalized squabbling.

I replied: that's just it, you see! Virtually all positions demand the test of viewing the politic from the opposite, or at least a tangential view. Americans, by and large came from a stock of Europeans that were bold, courageous and gutsy enough to pack themselves into ships and emmigrate to the New Land, their own not quite seeming to offer either enough opportunity, or room, or freedom for their eccentricities to flourish. So, we argue about everything. And it is good, and from this has come America.

Have a good afternoon!

And remember - we too are like the Kos Kidz in our own charming way.

GoatGuy

#49 Occasional Reader

How about just PosKids? Pile of Shiite Kids.

#93 Paul

The really obscene thing is that the Kosites are courted by Democrat politicians and lauded by the NY and LA Times.

And the NYT's and LAT's circulation is dropping faster than Michael Moore can drop a cheeseburger!

Also, don't think that the GOP won't be using that fact, for many campaign commercials this fall, and in 2008!

It will be near perfect, any one of the millions of anti-American anti-military "kos" rants, next to a picture of say, John Kerry, Howard Dean, and also, Bin Laden, Zarqawi, "kos", talking points, next to the exact talking points of, Hillary, Kerry, Algore.

It is a fact, that these kook Dems, will pay dearly at the polls, for their "cozy" relationship with these loser kooks!

Look at how they paid, in 2002, and 2004, and that was basicly just with Michael Moore "help[ing" the Dems.

Now, the Dems have crossed the big line in the sand.

They'll pay.

That's a fact!

#97 John

The terrorists are really quite stupid. Here they had the opportunity to hold two US soldiers, offer the international media the opportunity to interview them and play the American media and Left like a Strativarius. Instead, they apparently butchered our guys and did nothing more than create a hunger for revenge within our Marines and soldiers they simply will not be able to believe.

Good point. I suppose they think we will be more likely to cut and run. Well, actually I don't believe they think at all. Just barbaric animals.

This is only a preview of what will happen if we go with the Murtha plan.

Let me get this straight, al Qaeda, which had no problem sending bombers to blow up two US embassies murdering hundreds of people, 19 hijackers to attack the US and killed nearly 3,000 people in the process - some of whom jumped more than 1,000 feet to their death to avoid being overcome by fire and smoke, and routinely engaged in beheading their victims somehow decided upon torturing these two soldiers because of US actions?

Are you kidding me? What kind of lunacy are the Kossacks engaging in? These terrorists are barbarians, pure and simple and have been dealing in this kind of violence for years. It has nothing to do with what kind of harsh treatment the US might be engaging in with detainees (and I'd like to know what kind of treatment would be acceptable to anyone seeking intel from detainees - as even harsh language appears to be inappropriate according to that bunch).

It has everything to do with Islamists engaging in their own brand of justice - submit to Islam or die. Anyone, from civilians in the WTC to soldiers on the battlefield, are fair game for their barbarism.

After all, this is the same group that routinely hides behind civilian populations to carry out their terrorist acts, knowing that the US will refrain from firing out of respect for human lives, which the terrorists so callously disregard.

So, in the Krazy Koz Kid's minds:

turning off air conditioning = beheading

being forced to stand = beheading

having water poured on your head = beheading

dropping a Koran = beheading

doing all of the above to only a couple inmates, while the rest get Imam blessed meals and soccer practice = beheading every American they find

Welcome to the reality based world!

I see a dark future for these traitors.

Or we win, and they pay.
Or the muslims win, and they pay.

HONOR TO THE AMERICAN WARRIORS !
ROLL BACK ISLAM TO arabia !

I must say that the Kostraitors and islamofascists illustrate better than anything else about how politics makes strange bedfellows.

They both need each other. I consider them equally vile.

If GWB wants to take the war on terror to terrorists, he needs to go after the cyberterrors at home. Solution: Invade Starbucks.

Quintuple Murder In N. Orleans occams hatchet's solution would be to pull all law enforcement off the streets and open very jail? Because some where by all probability some felon had a bad incarcerated day?

93 Paul

The really obscene thing is that the Kosites are courted by Democrat politicians and lauded by the NY and LA Times.

No, this is a good thing. Let's get the true face of liberalism out to the public. Read #77's post.

I took a quick dip into the DU sewer and I won't go back there today. I'll save everyone else the paid and anger of going there.

Here's a typical comment.

#99 Kostraitors

Sounds like... castrators?

republic #110:

To be fair, Michael Moore is not dropping that cheeseburger. He's eating that cheeseburger. ;-)

The "Today" show apparentely had one of the relatives on blaiming the military because they didn't have a plan in place for something like this and her nephew died as a result. I don't blame her for lashing out, I blame the Today show who obviously went searching for just such comment and person. To the relative who made the comments, as much as we plan we are fighting a determined enemy who also makes plans. Things like this don't happen by accident. Do not disparage those who were there and at least one who gave his life trying to fight back the terrorists. It is tragic and once you have had time to grieve I trust you will understand that the blame lies with the terrorists who if they were not determined to wage a war using terror as a weapon none of this would be happening.
To the brass in the Army you guys better get the 1/502nd out of the area and back to location away from this. This unit just had 3 members arrested for murder, have been a big part of several recent operations including that big Air Assault operation earlier this year and now they lose a couple of soldiers like this.

65 ManInBlack

Great photo. Facial expression and finger capture my sentiments exactly.

PS. Waste of time dating Liberals...better off spending time with schizophrenics or prostitutes. More fun and even more fun.

Mark 1957

It wouldn't be a good idea to be hanging around with that guy. Especially now.

As far as Kos, this is what we've come to expect, so no surprise.

You might be able to cherrypick comments from this that sound bad, especially considering the starting point.

I think it's a big difference that the starting point, say put up by Charles, didn't start off with something as offensive as "the US military needs to start chopping off heads, just to show we're serious".

KOS started his day off by saying the us is "sewing (sic) what we reap" , and the the beheading of US soldiers was deserved.

SPIT.

I am sticking with thinking of him as a sociopath. That can't write.

I took a quick dip into the DU sewer and I won't go back there today.

I've checked it out a couple of times. Not sure, but I think they may have something against Bush. Just a vague vibe I picked up there.

Liberalism, a philosophy of peace, has been hijacked by a tiny minority. Why aren't the moderate liberals speaking out?

I think I'm having a case of deja vu. This sounds familiar.

Unfortunately beheading and torture no longer hold the same shock value. In fact, this is the expected behavior. The leftist Kos reaction is also no surprise...and to be expected.

One thing is for sure, occams hatchet's neck is safe because it's parasitic self would never ever put itself in harms way.

#121 Just_A_Grunt:

what makes me sick is if a parent supports the war, the media tells them "you are a grieving parent and too close to have an unbiased opinion, you are just speaking out of grief" and don't report on them.

Re #118

"paid" = "pain"

The taking and torturing of our soldiers DID NOT HAPPEN until Murtha and the Democrats encouraged it with their yaking down the troops. Remember the photo that said we support the troops when they shoot each other? Guess the KKKOs kiddies support them now.

My despise for the Democats is off the charts, and this is coming from one who used to be one of them.

and oh yeah, Andrew Sullivan, you can kiss my rosey red arse

Al-Zarqawi's Successor Gets the Credit

I heard over the news that the two soldiers were tortured before they were killed. This took me back to the summer of 1999 at Kargil.

During the winter, it is an unwritten law that the soldiers are pulled back from Siachen, the highest battleground in the world. But during the winter of 1998, when the Indian soldiers were back in the barracks, a few Pakistani soldiers aided by hundreds of mujahadeens occupied positions on the Indian side of Jammu and Kashmir, and had their guns trained on the Jammu-Srinagar highway.
In summer, when the Indian troops started their ascent to the forward posts, they came under fire from above. The deposed Nawaz Sharif was the PM and the present "greatest ally on the WOT" Musharraf was the Army Chief in Pakistan at that time.
Nearly 400 Indian soldiers were massacred in this surprise attack. The worst to suffer was a Lieutenant Colonel by name Saurabh Shukla. He was tortured and his testicles were cut out and stuffed in his mouth. The Americans might be ignorant of this, but that is the favorite sign-off of the Muslims.
Though it revulsed the Indians, it only strengthened the resolve. The Indian PM ordered the Indian Air Force to blow the Islamists to smithereens. The Islamists definitely did not think that the Indians would do that.
The Islamists were just massacred by the missiles fired by the IAF, leading to the famous rush to Washington by Nawaz Sharif to meet President Clinton on July 4, 1999.
To this day poor Sharif claims that he was ignorant of the Kargil attack, which it seems was planned and executed by Musharaff.
The outcome of Kargil was the greatest irony of all. Sharif was deposed and Musharaff became the HOS in Pakistan.
Now is not the time to cut and run, but to show more resolve in Iraq.

I see more 500 lb. bombs on the horizon in Iraq.

Don't think that our military doesn't know exactly what slime like the "kos" have been writing about them.

I can see some of the inscriptions on the bombs right now, which will eventually hit the "new #1" in Iraq, and as many more as they produce.

"This is cause the "kos" loves you"

"Here's to your "freedom fighters"

"Here's to you and your supporters at the "kos""

This "kos", "leftist freedom fighter's" life in Iraq, is going to be very short lived.

"Omar, what is that hissing sound"

This cannot stand. We cannot allow this administration and its incomprehensible defense of and support for torture in violation of the “quaint” Geneva Conventions to remain.

The chickens have come home to roost.

This implies that these tortures of our soldiers are a direct result of Abu Ghraib, Gitmo or other accusations of institutional "torture" leveled against us by Leftists.

In one sense, they're correct. The Left's relentless effort to paint American soldiers as complicit in "torture" has emboldened the enemy to commit actual atrocities.

But, um, f^cktards? The terrorists were beheading and torturing people BEFORE Abu Ghraib... and Gitmo... and the Crusades... and they’ll continue to do it until we take them off the streets and put them in places like Gitmo-- or outright kill them. My preference is always option B.

But the "reality based" implication that these killings were retaliatory ignores the role (say) Murtha plays as a Congressional cheerleader for the enemy. The time for tolerating such hate speech against American soldiers is at an end.

kos the seamstress.
"as ye sew?"
he means sow.

disgusting.

This reminds me of stories I read in the book "Flyboys", when the Japanese retaliated against China for assisting in the Doolittle raid. 250,000 soldiers and civilians were slaughtered, a significant number of those killed were killed by beheading.

I can't imagine, at that time, any American citizen writing something as smug as "we reap what we sow" in response to those atrocities.

#114: Roll back Islam... period....

#115 canadianconservative, um, I hope they can safely id friendlies in Starbucks.

If a video was made of these 2 while they were being held prisoner and the torture they endured and if it appears on the web I hope and pray that it does not get attention by any of us in the western world.
If what I hearing through scuttlebutt has any truth to it you will understand why I said the Army may want to look at pulling the 1/502nd out of there and in a hurry.

Web definition for 'quaint'.

quaint

adj 1: strange in an interesting or pleasing way;

Wow. So this poster at KOS (translated via the #1 definition according to the dictionary) says this:

The bodies of the two captured U.S. soldiers were found in Iraq - bearing signs of “barbaric torture.”

How strange in an interesting or pleasing way.

Only a truly sick individual would write such a thing.

#94, et. al.:

I would expect if Abu Hamza al-Muhajir is his "heir apparent", then he will be over the edge shortly. Who wouldn't be? To be known as responsible for that, to know what happened to your predecesor, to know what's expected of you from all the other terrorists that will follow you and "look up to you". He could end up being worse in a shorter amount of time available to him. Manic?

Yeah, well maybe...and maybe not. Today's word from CENTCOM indicates we have either wasted or captured one of the big dogs. No confirmation on the guy's exact name, but he was apparently one of the Top 5 on our list:

[Link: www.captainsquartersblog.com...]

#120 Quella

That is what I meant by "drop"

They probably don't even hit the sides of his throat on the way down!

: )

Cindy Sheehan says these murders are "freedom fighters"

Michael Moore says they are like our "minutemen".

But we don't dare question their patriotism.

#132 Sean

It would be just too good if this clown quickly ended up with a 500lb bomb on his dead.

/dreaming

shortboard surfer #126:

I consider myself liberal, and I speak out, both here and on my blog. And there are others like me.

I have huge disagreements with many people here on DKos, but the disagreements at least do not involve their hijacking the Democratic Party.

I want my party back, dammit. The only person I can think of with "balls" and who believes in many of the same issues I do is Hillary Clinton, laughably enough. (she is publicly for the war) Amusingly, she got 0% of the votes from the Kos Kidz, when they did a poll of who they want to be president.

That makes me like Hillary even more!

#74 eLoser
Let's not do that.

... Umm, cleanup on aisle #98?

Oops, meant to say in #146 that I have huge disagreements with many people here at LGF.

I have no idea why I typed DKos, and I meant LGF. I am deeply sorry!

#29 Quella

No, no, no. They are the new center of the party. The Kos-o-nazis drive to money machine and the direction of the Democrat party. Look at their point man: Howard Dean, the green mean mad machine.

#57 shortboard surfer

Did I miss something? When did the Moslems sign on to the Geneva Convention?

Aye, the terrorists we are fighting are not signatories, therefore not entitled to any GC protections.

But even if they were signers, they are guilty of several actions specifically spelled out in the GC as removing from them any protections of the GC.

Not wearing uniforms is the most apparent but hardly the only one or even the most grievous.

They target civilians. They take no effort to remove their war efforts from civilian populations. They use hospitals, ambulances, and of course religious bulidings as platforms from which they wage war. Their treatment of prisoners is so far beyond the pale it dignifies their treatment too much to even begin listing how it falls short of GC standards.

The sick jerk didn't even wait a day to dance on our boys' graves or use the evidence to beat up the President. Evil indeed.

Insane

When we "torture" we are the bad guys, when they torture they are victims...and we are still the bad guys.

#141 Matticus Finch

You're 100% right. The only defense the Kos Kids can raise is the ignorance defense; as illustrated by their nuance between the word sew & sow.

Quella, I think Hillary knows what has become of her party and will NOT seek the Democratic nomination for 2008. She's dead meat even among Dumbocruds.

The Democratic Party as you remember it no longer exists. The loony left, a British Labor was once known is now firmly in control.

I do not, however rule out Hillary seeking the Presidencey in 2008. I think we are closer than one thinks to a new party breaking out on the center. Watch the moves of people like Hillary, Lieberman, Bill casey Jr. and a few other so-called moderates.

Moveon.org, code pink and the state Democratic party share fund raising tables around town.

How can anyone say that Moveon.org and Code Pink are not a huge force in the Democratic party when they share membership/money tables at public events?

Oh wait, he can't dance on the graves just yet... the poor men haven't even been buried!

I hate the LLL!

Well that @sshole Kos can 'how quaint' this!

June 20, 2006
AQI Top 5 Terrorist Killed (Update: Confirmed, Perhaps Plus Another AQI Leader Captured)
With UPDATES!
via [Link: www.captainsquartersblog.com...]

#146 Quella

Believe me, I can relate to what you feel. I was a democrat myself until I went to serve in Viet Nam. When I saw the 1968 democratic convention (with the "yippies") and read about the Fonda/Kerry Winter Soldier Commission testimony, I bacame a conservative and have voted Republican ever since.

So, do you think the terrorists in Iraq keep Kos hotlinked on their laptops, or do they type in the URL every time?

CAIR probably has the inside story. They always do.

[/sarcasm]

Well everyone knows where the KOSby Kidz live that our darling adversaries never tortured anyone until "evil Chimpy broke the GC".....

//need I really post sarc

Queen Andy over at the Daily petrie Dish is ranting along the same lines.....

#108 GoatGuy - We. Are. Nothing. Like. The. Kos. Kids. NOTHING.
You can cherry pick our comments all you want, I dare say that, unless you find a troll's comments, you'll never see anyone out here applauding and cheering the deaths of American Contractors much less American troops, nor wishing the US Troop Death Count was higher, so we had a better chance of forcing Bush to get the US out of Iraq. Nor crying crocodile tears over the deaths of US servicemen and women. The "Kids" follow their leader and look how far Kos has gone to hide his "Screw them" comment about those contractors.
I won't paint with a broad brush about all of his posters, but it's impossible to deny the general tenor, set by Kos, is anti-american in every way.
That is the exact opposite of LGF in every way.

canadianconservative #155:

HERE'S HOPING! Maybe some Republicans can join this new party as well, such as Giuliani and McCain.

I would love to see a massive realignment of American politics.

#155 canadianconservative
Hillary a moderate? It is she and her husband who were instrumental in making the Dems what they are today.

sociocrat(s)- A person having exhibited antisocial or psychotic behaviors as a political idology; a person having delusional quixotic fantasies, unable to separate those from reality. See "Kos"

We just had a motorcycle rally, in honor and memory of all who have lost their lives in the Middle East, and to all who are serving, and sacrificing.

There were over 50,000 bikes last Saturday, who all rode to the local "Middle East Conflicts wall", where the names of all who have lost their lives names are etched on wall panels.

I have found Casy Sheehans name on it, and just so you know, I have given Casey's memory, and life, the respect that his own mother has never once given him.

There was not ONE single case of "anti-war" protesting at any point throughout the ride, and all who I talked with, support our troops, unconditionally!

The only complaints that I heard, all through the day, was of the anti-war nutjobs, the anti-war politicians, and the most common comment, was, if you don't love America, then go live in France!

It was great to see, and be part of that kind of Patriotism, and, regardless of what any msm says, or does, I am certain that the great majority of Americans feel the same way, and that the polls are seriously skewed!

We loyal, patriotic, GOD loving, country loving people, just keep going about the business of living, the AMERICAN way, fully supporting our troops, while the leftist kooks, and the msm keep going in the opposite direction.

It will be revealed, in spite of the left!

@155 canadianconservative
Since so many here at times believe in polls,
they should drink from this cup. :)

One of the Scared Monkeys is amused that Clinton’s 22% is lower than the worst approval rating George W. Bush has ever had.

It ain't even bittersweet. :)

I'm so glad the KOS KIDZ are bought and paid for by the DEMOCRAT party.

GoatGuy's goats must have gotten into the loco weed.

shortboard surfer #159:

The problem is that the Republicans have no definite plan to win the war. I do not believe we should leave, but we shouldn't stay, either, unless we radically change our approach. Otherwise, we are simply careening into disaster. First on the list should be FIRING KAREN HUGHES!

The tragedy of it is that Democrats advocate leaving before the job is done, and Republicans advocate staying the course. Where are those who advocate staying, but changing our strategy? NO ONE!

It's very disheartening.

The Nature of the enemy is that this is who they are. This is what they do. They authorized themselves to make war against the United States, to say they are not signatories to the Geneva Convention is an understatement.

The fact is that any US soldier unfortunate to fall into enemy hands will be killed unless they can escape or get rescued first. Because of the nature of who we fight, that is how this war will be fought.

DUers and KOSers will attempt to rationalize this all away but the Osama declared the Jihad, blew up the Embassies and blew up the Cole then he went downtown. He turned innocent Kenyans into burned meat with same indifference that permitted him to use civilian passenger airliners as his missilies.

He broadcasts his atrocities over the net because he wants his followers to be bloody minded and desensitized to human suffering before they do their own bit of nastiness.

The US did not start this barbaric war and the US has done nothing to make it more barbaric.

I think the right road in this war is the course of honor. Ban all torture. Pass a law that all crimes of torture in the war be judged by civilian juries in New York and DC. Any US soldier who wishes to commit torture will be expelled from the Army but is free to argue their actions were justified to a US jury. If their acts were done for no reason and overly cruel, off they go to jail; if they acted to save lives with extenuating citizens then the juries will accept their arguments and acquit.

When human rights advocates argue that the US must not be in the business of torture, morally they are right. We can make the law address reality, take torture out of US policy and have an Army focused first on fighting and defending the national honor with soldiers who know they may use their judgment. It will cost them their careers. But I never knew a soldier who did not put the nation ahead of themselves. This policy would end torture.

Osama and his gang of throat cutters only have one policy; they can find their honor in hell.

Michael Savage is correct; Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Quella,

there has to be a realignment. The Demcratic Party as it once was is gone forever.

Parties come, parties go. The Whigs and Federalists will testify to that.

The Democrats have strayed way too far into left field, and have been taken over by the kinds of people who make up Canada's New Democratic party.. a group that is out there on teh fringes politically, and stands no chance whatsoever of ever forming a government here.

The Democrats have reached that same point of no return.

The Democrats were hijacked, and good people did nothing. When someone like Howard Dean, whom we canadians know all to well, living on the border with Vermont, became National Chairman, it was a sign that it was "Game Over".
the realignment would have happened in 1992 IF Ross perot had not dropped out of the race, then jumped back in. I think he might have won, but even if he hadn't, the Reform party would be a force to be reckoned with.

Same old song and dance:

Moonbat TV host: No one has said that there'll be a bloodbath if we pull out, which is a cliché we used to hear a lot...

Veteran: I think if we pull out prematurely before a viable ------government is established, that the record of the ------- in the past and the record of the --------in the area I served in at Operation [unintelligible] clearly indicates that's precisely what would happen in that country. ...

Moonbat "I": There is no interest on the part of the ----------to try to massacre the people once people have agreed to withdraw. ... I realize that there would be certain political assassinations, and that might take place. And I think when you balance that against the fact that the United States has now accounted for some 18,600 people through its own Phoenix program, which is a program of assassination, and when you balance that off against the morality of the kind of bombing we've been doing in Laos and the kind of destruction wholesale of the country of -------, which amounts to some 155,000 civilians a year killed, then I think to talk about four or five thousand people is lunacy in terms of the overall argument and what we're seeking in Southeast Asia.[xiv"

This is a transcript from John O'Neil and John Kerry's debate on the Dick Cavett show.

The moonbats at DU use the same specious logioc as Kerry did then.

From Frontpage Magazine

wanumba #164:

Do you even look at the actual positions Hillary has taken as a senator? Or the positions her husband took as president?

Hardly extreme at all. The one BIG THING Clinton did (which failed) was healthcare reform, in 1992. Otherwise, his biggest achievements were conservative victories. Think of it: NAFTA, welfare reform, trade liberalism, cutting the deficit...

Bill Clinton was not exactly some crazy eyed Kossack.

What are the troops doing now? Getting an earful of General George Patton - to paraphrase: "Don't even think of being taken prisoner."
What can the American people do? Frog march Amnesty International, the ACLU, Code Pink, John Murtha, Cindy Sheehan and the International Red Cross out of the country and dump them into Iraq's Triangle of Death with the orders to work with Al Qaeda to improve the conditions of the prisoners they hold.
Should resolve that screeching rather quickly.

I think the Bush administration has realized that liberating Iraq isn't going quite as easy as they thought.

But with constant attacks and good use of intelligence, the terrorists will eventually be eliminate (to where the Iraqi's can handle them) and recuitment will be very difficult for the bad guys.

canadianconservative #173:

HERE'S HOPING!

#146 Quella

Hillary is as much of a leftist kook as they come, who has been trying to cloak herself with the term, "moderate".

She had no choice but to vote for the war, as she knew if she didn't, it might have been political suicide.

It looks like no matter how she would have voted, the results are the same for her.

One look at her Senate voting record, and her time as the co-Vice President with her husband, and she has voted to the extreme left, about 98% of the time.

Moderate Democrats, are the ones who never, ever, for a second, get their face, their voice, their pictures on the msm!

Kos krazy: US harvesting body organs of Gitmo prisoners!

republic #179:

Can you provide some proof of the so-called crazy bills she has voted for? I would like to see them. Hillary is running for reelection in NYS, after all...I am a concerned citizen...

That said, I will be voting for the Libertarian. Hillary hardly needs my extra vote in NYS.

#140 Just_A_Grunt - I know what you're talking about, but quite frankly, I think it's a reason for keeping the 1/502nd there for a few more weeks. And yes I am serious.

#170 Quella
I don't think Iraq is the war. It is only a battle in the war against Islam. I'm not a Bush koolaid-drinker by any means. His "Islam is a RoP" comment really turned me off.

The democrats seem to think that Iraq is THE war.

BTW I feel the "war" was really won when they held their third election. They chose Islamic rule, but it was their choice. We gave them that freedom to choose.

Quella

Clintons best work was when he partnered with Republicans on common sense legistation. Welfare reform, open markets, etc.

It's been said that the best thing Hillary ever did was going in front of rabid liberals last week and get boo'd by them.

shortboard surfer #183:

Totally agreed in every way.

#164: Compared to the Murthas, reids, kerry's, pelosis, Boxers, Deans and Moulitsos' hilary is a moderate!

though I will concede (I am a hillary hater) that she and slickboy were symptomatic of what curently plagues the Dumbocruds. A herbinger of things to come... which illustrates just how bad things have gotten.

Credit where it is due, unlike the Kostraitors, she actually has enough intelligence to know that the party is done as a serious electoral force. And polls show that she is being rejected by her own party for standing behind the troops (in her own way).

#82, Skid Marx of Satan, good but I prefer:
K - Kin
O - Of
S - Satan

Most of my family has publicly stated, that they won't vote Dem, again, until they at least get back towards the center.

That means never again!

YEEHAAAAWWWW!

#175 Quella

Clinton ran as a moderate to win the presidency. Once he did, he took a hard left turn and governed from left. In fact, he and Hillary's plan to nationalize one seventh of the US economy was so alarming to the voting public that they the Republicans took the House in '94. They prevented him, to the extent possible, from governing from as far left as he (and Hillary) wanted to thereafter.

Hillary is as far left as the Kossacks and the DUers. She just knows that she cannot get elected by appearing so, so she tried to create the image of being a moderate by supporting the war.

But we learned from our experience with Bill how Hillary is trying to play the game, and we won't let it happen again.

@170 Quella
Looks as though you must have stocked up on
foods that cause compaction, because today you're full of shi'ite.

Quella
Ask Billy Dale what kind of people they are. Ask why Jamie Gorelick was the real power behind Janet Reno.
Most of all, ask why Hillary stomped all over the United States Constitution by trying to wield power from her position as First Lady - NOT an elected post. When she's challenged, she drapes the "cloak of infallibility" : "People are intimidated by women." Not, "Even though I am a lawyer and my career has been in Law, I give a rats nest for abiding by it."
Bill Clinton many times used the term "Co-Presidents" There is NOTHING in the Constitution that permits that. Hillary wants raw power and doesn't care how she gets it. They were truly the first Third World power couple in the United States. He had his power base and she had hers - and they were often in opposition to each other.

#175 Quella

Bill Clinton was not exactly some crazy eyed Kossack

No? Think Kosovo War.

"The chickens have come home to roost. As ye sew, so shall ye reap."

Words the left across the western world should themselves be heeding.

When people have finally had a belly full of the left’s continued assault on western civilisation, when self preservation starts to kick in, there will be a bitter reckoning.

Sympathisers and collaborators and are never popular in any society.

#180:

Kos krazy: US harvesting body organs of Gitmo prisoners!

Oh damn, they're on to us now, aren't they? Guess we'll have to turn up our NSA "Brain Liquifier Rays" to the "Terminate with Extreme Prejudice" setting.

#191wanumba

They were truly the first Third World power couple in the United States

.

LOL-A classic

#121 Just_A_Grunt

blaiming the military because they didn't have a plan in place for something like this and her nephew died as a result.

I just don't get it. Is this moonbat serious? No plans? Dear God in Heaven of course there are plans! Does anyone REALLY believe this tripe?

But please Google Keith Matt Maupin and pick any of hundreds of good articles. SGT Maupin is the only servicemember still missing. His family has donated computers for an education lab (Soldiers use them to work on-line toward college degrees). His family are not barking mad, they just want their son back. He's a hero and his family knows it. I pray the Cindy She-hags and other straphangers leave these two men's memories to lay in peace with their families.

Damn this makes me mad...I
Damn
Damn
Damn

#191 wanumba

As tfk says, The power couple who doesn't couple.

I think we can all see that Hillary's presidential chances for 2008 are slightly better than nil.

I would put my money on Giuliani. He has faults, and he tends to be socially liberal, but he has proved his mettle in the face of adversity, and this quality is precisely what the country needs against Islamofascists. I'd say he also has a personal ax to grind too!

I don't think the Republican party will let him go hog wild with social liberalism, not that he'll have time for any of that.

I say watch for a third party insurgency: Joe Lieberman ?

Just a Grunt...

I should PIMF

Lizards....Grunt pulled up a story from some assmunch family member...

My post looks like it was Grunt

Sorry, just beside myself right now

On a local morning show the DJ was equating US torture to what these animals did to our guys. Some how depriving someone of sleep and making them listen to Britany Spears is the same as beating and physically abusing and then killing the person. The left is so f*cked up.

christheprofessor #189:

I would disagree. I think Bill Clinton ran as a leftist and then became a moderate.

I agree Hillary has a past of being leftist, but I have seen her steady progression towards moderation for years. She also is a big supporter of Israel, I would say, bigger than her husband.

There are also (what I consider to be) extremists in the Republican party making waves as possible candidates for the presidency, such as George Allen.

If the Republicans are smart and nominate McCain or Giuliani, I don't see how the Dems stand a chance.

If they are stupid and nominate a George Allen type, the Dems do have a chance.

So all I can say is...we'll see.

OT:
The US has placed its missile defense system into active status after the threats posed by a North Korean missile launch. So will someone tell me why the photo accompanying the story, and also posted here, shows a missile launch ostensibly from the USS Lake Erie (CG-70) coming from a shorebased facility and not from a ship? Are the editors at AP really that daft? (hey, someone call the Dept of Redundancy Dept)

#170 Quella, what's your plan in Iraq?

Oh right, fire Karen Hughes. That's the ticket.

/You have no partisan agenda

Some day a real rain will come and wash all the scum off the streets.

-The Clash

Hello everyone...

I was dreading the thread, but I knew it was coming.

Trust me, we're hitting back. And the Iraqis are too.

#170 Quella

The problem is that the Republicans have no definite plan to win the war. I do not believe we should leave, but we shouldn't stay, either, unless we radically change our approach. Otherwise, we are simply careening into disaster. First on the list should be FIRING KAREN HUGHES!

I completly disagree with you, on that.

The President's plan, has always been, that when the Iraqi's standup, we will back down.

You can't put the "complete" plan in front of the public, why that would be suicide!

Because of the msm, the enemy has had every oppurtunity to match nearly every battle plan, because the msm gave the enemy the heads up, sometimes weeks befor a particular battle would take place.

One of the few exceptions, was Zarqawi.

Saddam was removed in less than two weeks!

The insurgency of Al-Quada was certainly underestimated, but there have been mistakes made in every war.

In WWII, the USA lost over 50,000 soldiers, in one day, in one battle.

Did we cut and run?

No!

If the modern msm, and the modern leftist kook Democrat had the voice then, that they have today, WWII would most certainly have turned out differntly.

The plan has always been, since the insurgency, to step down more and more, as the Iraqi's stand up.

That has been going on continuously, unfortunatly, you can't seem to find any of those positives in the msm.

There has been a clear plan, unfortunatly, some politicians, and all of the msm, fail to ever acknowledge this.

That is why I don't pay any attention to any msm.

I like facts, not leftist kook opinion.

#198,

I say watch for a third party insurgency: Joe Lieberman ?

Lieberman may be in for a nasty primary fight against Lamont this coming August. The good news is that he may LOSE, which means, in turn, he'll declare himself an independent and win handily in November.

If the above scenario pans out, prepare yourself for the sound of exploding craniums in the Kos Kamp not to mention Howard Dean's comfortable, and well-appointed, chambers.

canadianconservative #198:

Given Joe Lieberman's recent campaign ad, I feel very wary of voting for him. It was literally the worst campaign ad I have seen in my life.

And that says something.

Quella

My biggest concern with both Clintons is that they would do what is easiest at the time. Bill more then Hillary.

For example, Bill Clinton would call in Dick Morris and ask him what the polling said. He would often base a decision on that. And whenever Bill would get in trouble, he'd go to church, carrying that HUGE black Bible, always on the side that the camera's were on.

I agree with you, they are not leftiest wacko's, but I don't think they provide the leadership needed when really tough and unpopular decisions need to be made.

#205 Army Green since 92'

GOD Bless

Stay safe!

Kick their asses!

It's good to hear from you!

#8 cabinsue 6/20/2006 07:45AM PDT

I'm really, really starting to hate these bastards (terrorists and our own leftist retards)!

Starting? I'm well past starting. I loath these worthless sacks of ####. In fact, I loath Kos and its ilk MORE than I loath the terrorists. I sincerely wish they would well and truly FOAD.

Awwww... Quella! I thought that ad was cute!

Yuck.

I just wandered over to the Kos link and read through many many disgusting comments.
I wish these people great personal turmoil in their pathetic little lives.

God bless our soldiers.

Agree the Kos bunch really belong in Leavenworth.... or Gitmo!

#201 Quella

Senator George Felix Allen scares the bajeebees out of you, ay?

republic #206 and roger:

I believe Karen Hughes has a place in American politics - but not as Under Secretary for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs. She has no specialized knowledge of Iraq or the Middle East. Her hiring alone is an example of the failures in Iraq.

But other things that need changing...

1) We need to get rid of the graft to Halliburton and other companies. The money allocated to contractors needs to be under greater scrutiny, thereby ensuring money is not wasted in Iraq.

2) The money saved from paying graft in Iraq should go to paying higher salaries to the troops.

3) National initiative to become energy independent.

4) National initiative to learn Arabic/Farsi.

5) Have clear, set standards for what is torture and what is not, so soldiers will not be presented with moral quagmires.

6) Increase troop levels in Iraq.

7) Better equip the troops, so they have what they need to win the war.

8) Assure civil liberties are safe at home, so there is an America to come back to.

8) Fire those who have proven incompetent. (aka Rumsfeld)

I could go on.

I believe the mission in Iraq is winnable, but not if we just stay the course. Those ideas were just off the top of my head.

republic

Thanks...the first post was a complete lash-out. It feels unfair sometimes because I'm in about as safe a place as there is in Iraq and those boys pulled a tough assignment.

One thing no one knows is how many of the enemy bought tickets to hell in the firefight.

Earlier someone posted about Zark's successor...who just signed his death warrant.

We're still going to win. The terrorists only scored a minor PR victory, but one that will cost them dearly.

Rush obviously read this blog post this morning. He's mentioning the "quaint" quip right now.

#205 Army green since '92

Trust me, we're hitting back. And the Iraqis are too.

Thank you! We know we are. American soldiers are NOT pansies and are not unnerved by something like this. They are steeled. They knew this sort of thing can happen any day. The fact that it hasn't happened as much as the enemy would like it to happen shows how well our military is organized.

For the cringers: Did the US Army crumble when they heard of the massacre of US troops by Germans at the start of what we know now as the Battle of the Bulge? What about the wholesale massacre of US troops by the Japanese who believed surrender was weakness. We beat them - the Germans and the Japanese - two completely different cultures of war and totalitarianism - beat them on both sides of the globe.
Anybody who wobbles, tell them to COWBOY UP.

Whoa. The moby is in full steam.

Fun to watch at least.

KOS = TMS

TMS = Terminlal Moral Syphillis

#201 Quella

I guess it's from the perspective of voter. I don't think social experimentation with the military, pardoning terrorists to support his wife's Senate campaign, signing legislation enacting retroactive taxes, moving decisions on technology transfer from the DOD to the Department of Commerce, last-minute pardons of big money donors, etc. are moderate actions.

I say lets give these Kos-monauts their soapbox,let them spout their liberal,all-inclusive,multi-culti horse crap.....in Mecca or Damascus.

I wonder how many seconds would they last?

Quella

I have had some scary thoughts about a Hillary win.

We are in a war against Islam. How do the Islamists feel about women? How do you think they would feel about a non-burkha wearing woman leading the Great Satan and Bill being the First Lady?

Also, as the first woman president, she would want to leave a legacy of not being weak, as a woman and a democrat. What would she do if another attack happened in the U.S.? Would she unleash the nukes? (This could be good or bad, but it just some thoughts I had).

What's quaint is the Left's curious belief that everything that happens in the world, any evil committed by anyone anywhere, is always in direct reply to something we did wrong. It's always, always, always America's fault. That goes for beheadings in Iraq as well as for, of course, 9/11. If we would just behave ourselves, nobody would even get the idea of doing harm, ever again.

Naturally, the same goes triple for Israel.

Quaint is also a would-be writer who doesn't know the difference between "sew" and "sow."

What Democrat (besides Kerry?) would want to attach their coat tails onto this cowards's page? If so, they're either deluded, confused, or dim bulbs.

The chickens have come home to roost. As ye sew, so shall ye reap.

If it comes down to a war of words, its comforting to know we're on the grammatically-correct side.

Dave the..... #209:

Yes, I have those same concerns.

Roger #215:

Here is a link to where George Allen stands on the issues.

I pretty much disagree with him on every single major issue. The only area we agree is foreign policy, but then again, as I stated, I believe we need to change our strategy in Iraq, and he does not.

But the issue is not me. The issue is that I believe most Americans also think George Allen is too far to the right for them to be comfortable with. I think he would be a terrible idea for the Republicans.

But alas, we shall see.

#71 Brent

How about a slight tweak on your formulation:

Irreleventsia, and The Sociopathic Shirker's Party

As ye sew...

Oh, what a tortured hurl we heave, While drinking the Kool-aid to deceive. - Sir Waldo Kos

shortboard surfer #224:

Agreed on your thoughts, however, I generally do not vote with thoughts of appeasing Islamists.

As soon as I heard that the soldiers were tortured, I knew the lefties would be doing Snoopy dances. Gawd, I hate the left.

#216 Quella

4) National initiative to learn Arabic/Farsi.

I assume you mean to enforce that by force of arms,mandatory prison sentences for anyone who refuses.

Very democratic of you.

Will learning English will still be elective?

#229 LC LaWedgie

LOL! Nice wordsmithing!

Sick lefty bastards.

christheprofessor #222:

What social experiment? My best (gay) friend was in the air force in the mid 90s, after Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell." He told me that everyone knew he was gay, and it was no big deal.

Furthermore, American troops fight side by side with British troops, who have no discriminatory policy against gay people.

The troops are very used to fighting side by side with gay people. There is no "social experiment" involved with getting rid of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," and making gayness a non-issue with the military.

As far as the other issues - those are things reasonable people can disagree on.

TotallySirius #232:

Um...no...

I was referring to Americans learning a second language so they are fluent in the enemy's language.

It would consist of funding Arabic/Farsi courses with that thought in mind.

Similar programs existed during the Cold War, in terms of learning Russian.

#216 Quella

1) We need to get rid of the graft to Halliburton and other companies. The money allocated to contractors needs to be under greater scrutiny, thereby ensuring money is not wasted in Iraq.

Graft? Do tell Quella, what other companies are able and willing to do the job that Halliburton is doing in Iraq?

3) National initiative to become energy independent.

What is your plan to get the rest of the world energy independent? Do you somehow believe, in your fevered imagination, that the US being independent of arab oil will change anything on a global level?

4) National initiative to learn Arabic/Farsi.

WTF for?

5) Have clear, set standards for what is torture and what is not, so soldiers will not be presented with moral quagmires.

Where the hell do you live? You don't think the Military Code of Conduct exists maybe?

I can't even bother with the rest. Idiocy in black and white.

Feh.

#170 Quella 6/20/2006 08:42AM PDT

The problem is that the Republicans have no definite plan to win the war.

Just plain wrong, but I'm sure I'll never convince you of that, so we'll just have to agree to disagree. Just one comment: If GW and the Republicans have no definite plan to win the war (which implies that we are not winning it), then why did Zarqawi, as evidenced by the papers we captured after killing him, think that WE WERE AND ARE WINNING IT?! There, I feel better now.

#230 Quella

I don't want to appease them. These were just some thoughts I had. It would pi$$ them off to no end. I'd love to see their reaction to a woman (NOT Hillary) win.

#217 Army Green since 92'

There is no safe place in Iraq, and you are serving as every other soldier is.

Please, please, please pass on this message to everyone that you can, and know this yourself,

We FULLY support you, and the mission that you are all on.

I can't seem to find many people who are opposed to the war, and who don't support our troops.

I would say the ratio, where I live is 1000 to 1, and the msm is giving you all a completly different picture.

We just had 50,000 motorcycles on a ride, to honor you all, and all who have lost their lives, and there hasn't been even one tiny article, or picture, in ANY media, that I am aware of.

The leftist kooks, the msm, and people like the "daily Kos", are every bit as much the enemy, as the islamic slime that you are fighting against over there.

We WILL prevail!

GOD BLess, please tell ALL, that we support you 100%, and we are praying constantly, and hoping for your safe return, after the job is turned over to the Iraqi's!

Please, please, tell them ALL,

WE FULLY SUPPORT YOU, and those that don't, can go live in France!

"I was referring to Americans learning a second language so they are fluent in the enemy's language."

Ready for our subjugation, overlords!

Quella

) We need to get rid of the graft to Halliburton and other companies. The money allocated to contractors needs to be under greater scrutiny, thereby ensuring money is not wasted in Iraq.
I supervise the operations of some 425 KBR employees and 134 laborers at 19 locations across Iraq. They are worth every cent and I have spent countless hours cutting costs, jobs, and work out of the contract. If you think there's no scrutiny...too bad. Keep holding your breath, you'll pass out soon and I'll still be here slogging away at the costs.

2) The money saved from paying graft in Iraq should go to paying higher salaries to the troops. Amen Sister!

3) National initiative to become energy independent. No arguement, but if there were a viable way, some Bill Gates - type would already be scrubbing his arse with 100s. Give me a solution, not a dream. Government funding of research isn't the answer, the market is.

4) National initiative to learn Arabic/Farsi. Good idea, but it won't stop the Islamist nutjobs. I'll just understand them as they saw my freakin head off.

5) Have clear, set standards for what is torture and what is not, so soldiers will not be presented with moral quagmires. Oh, don't go there. What we've done is barely worse than Frat pranks I've suffered (and dished out). Hard techniques work.

6) Increase troop levels in Iraq. NO! Reduce (when appropriate). It's not as bad as you think! Really! The Iraqis are doing so much! Just like a freakin' lib to do to the nacent Iraqi Army what would undermine it the most. Yeah, tell ARAB MEN that they need more help...we'll gut their pride and embarass them. It's amazing how poorly "multiculturalists" understand the motivations of the people over here.

7) Better equip the troops, so they have what they need to win the war. Best equiped army in the WORLD in any day, age, or....EVER.

8) Assure civil liberties are safe at home, so there is an America to come back to. The only thing the feds are going to hear listening to my phone calls home are a lot of encouragement and love (and the occational naughty fun words between my wife and I). I feel pretty secure that America will still be there for me.

8) Fire those who have proven incompetent. (aka Rumsfeld) I'm no fan of Rummy, but he's not incompetent. I want him gone because I think there are better people for the job. Not holding my breath.

#240 republic

Well said. I agree fully.

12:25 EST-Rush is really getting the KOS reaction out to his 26 million? listeners.

I'm too nauseous to even go into that Kos thread.

But every MSM type who fawned over Yearly Kos need to have that sent to them.

Over and over again. And be sure to ask for their reaction.

Instead, they'll use the moonbat uncle as their latest prop.

Not even elderly Iraquis are safe from these animals:

Elsewhere, at least one elderly woman was killed along with a suicide bomber who blew himself up inside a home for the elderly in the southern city of Basra.

From BBC

Speaking of deranged Krazy Kos Kids here's one that seems to support Jihadi claims that Americans are harvesting the organs of Gitmo Detainees.

Quella: Senator Hillary Clinton - nonono!

A Hillary (the liar) Clinton Resource list - here.

Partial list:

The Truth About Hillary : What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She'll Go to Become President
By Edward Klein

The Final Days: The Last, Desperate Abuses of Power by the Clinton White House
By Barbara Olson

The Case Against Hillary Clinton
By Peggy Noonan

Hillary's Secret War: The Clinton Conspiracy to Muzzle Internet Journalists
By Richard Poe

Can She Be Stopped?: Hillary Clinton Will Be the Next President of the United States Unless . . .
By John Podhoretz

Hillary's Scheme: Inside The Next Clinton's Ruthless Agenda To Take The White House
By Carl Limbacher

Rewriting History
By Dick Morris

American Evita : Hillary Clinton's Path to Power
By Christopher Andersen

Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton
By Barbara Olson

Their Lives: The Women Targeted by the Clinton Machine
By Candice Jackson

I've Always Been a Yankees Fan: Hillary Clinton in Her Own Words
By Thomas Kuiper

Articles:

Hillary: At Home With New York Times
By Clay Waters
April 20, 2006

'Shrillary' Clinton Finds Jesus; Hallelujah!
By Rabbi Aryeh Spero
April 13, 2006

Hillary Faces Wrath of Campus Leftists
By Pratik Chougule
April 12, 2006

Why The Clintons Belong in Prison
By Jamie Glazov
April 5, 2006

Will Hillary Get Gored?
By Dick Morris
April 5, 2006

Sen. Clinton: GOP Bill Makes Her A 'Criminal'
NewsMax.com
April 5, 2006

What Hillary Actually Said
By Ben Johnson
June 16, 2006

Souljah So
By James Taranto
June 14, 2006

Hillary's Feint to the Right
By Gary Aldrich
June 14, 2006

Left Behind
By Shawn Macomber
June 14, 2006

Iraq War Protestors Heckle Clinton at Liberal Conference
By Randy Hall
June 13, 2006

Beyond the Hillary Hype
By Armstrong Williams
June 5, 2006

The Clinton Marriage - Not Again!
By Tom Purcell
June 5, 2006

Chinese Communist CEO Gave Bill Clinton $200,000
By Amanda B. Carpenter
June 2, 2006

The Hillary Factor
By Cal Thomas
June 1, 2006

Hillary: Not a Centrist
By Brent Bozell
May 31, 2006

Hill Sweet-Talking Her Way to the White House
By Kathryn Lopez
May 2, 2006

Why Hillary Clinton is So Dangerous
By Carl Limbacher Jr.
May 12, 2006

Don't Let 'Moderate' Hillary Fool You
By Kathleen Willey
May 11, 2006

HRC Opportunity Society
By Kathryn Jean Lopez
May 10, 2006

Stopping Hillary
By Kathryn Jean Lopez
May 9, 2006

Preparing for Hillary
By Mona Charen
May 12, 2006

The Right Goes to Hellary
By Julia Gorin
May 15, 2006

Hillary and Rupert Take a Swim
By Suzanne Fields
May 15, 2006

Rupert and Hillary
By Roger Aronoff
June 6, 2006

Hillary's Halliburton
By Dick Morris
April 28, 2006

Hillary's Haunting Finance Scandal
By Dick Morris
April 26, 2005

Sarah D. #237:

I will go through each one, one by one. I think these initiatives are common sense.

1. I am not saying other companies are better equipped than Halliburton. However, there is evidence that we are overpaying Halliburton. I believe these contracts need greater scrutiny.

3. Sugar ethanol is an idea. But the bottom line is I am not a scientist. Scientists should be figuring this out.

4. We need to learn Arabic/Farsi so we can understand what the enemy is saying, and be better able to communicate with them. Same reason so many people took up Russian during the Cold War.

5. It's called Abu Ghraib. It's called Gonzales's torture memo. The rules of conduct are no longer as clear as they used to be.

#235 Quella

Clinton didn't get rid of The "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, he imposed it on the military.

And for the record, I have no problem with homosexuality whatsoever (though it's not for me). What folks do in their personal lives is none of my concern or business.

Go Rush Go!

@216 Quella

4) National initiative to learn Arabic/Farsi.

Just what kind of initiative do you suggest be used to garner this goal?
Is this so when that wet wild dream of the US being under shari'a it be enforced with guns, bullets and rusted kitchen knives?
I can't believe you actally had the gonads to post that.

#242 Army Green since '92

Thank you for your informed writing. I knew there are clear arguements to be made but I'm not as informed as you are and could not make the points so clearly. Thanks again. Keep posting when you have the time.

#233 Roger -

Well, Sir Walter isn't very happy and I probably should avoid scotch for a while.

Quella

C'mon man,get real.

What the hell am I,an electrician in central Ohio going to use Farsi for?

How many arabic conversations am I going to hear?

On that same subject what the hell does a corn farmer in Des Moines need to learn arabic for.

You're just throwing out feel-good ideas with no practical use.

Sounds good but its impracticable.

#181 Quella

Here's a link to the ACLU ratings of Hillary for the 109th Congress, she has a 70% lifetime score (ie. voting the "right way" on ACLU positions 70% of the time), same as Schumer, but lower than Nadler's 98%. You can look at votes on individual legislation and reach your own conclusions:

[Link: action.aclu.org...]

link to Clinton's scorecard for the 109th Congress (67%):[Link: action.aclu.org...]

link to Clinton's scorecard for the 108th Congress (78%): [Link: action.aclu.org...]

link to Clinton's scorecard for the 107th Congress (60%): [Link: action.aclu.org...]

Link to ACLU scorecard for the entire Senate-109th Congress:
[Link: action.aclu.org...]

Link to the ACLU scorecard for the entire House-109th Congress: [Link: action.aclu.org...]

ctp,

Congratulations on the Canes winning the Cup.

A great series.

#242 Army Green since 92'

Remember what Quella's "idea" of "greater scrutiny" is, which doesn't include any other country, except the USA.

The U.N. Oil for Food scam, that was operating between Kofi Anna, Saddam, France Russia and Germany.

The U.N.'s Peacekeepers "Rapist Extrordinaire Club"

Amnesty International's turning the other cheek, to ALL "atrocities" commited by the world at large, with the lone exception, the "fancied", "atrocities", "commited by the USA.

I could increase the list, add infinitum.

Quella is a true leftist, she will never comprehend.

JWF

Thanks, Bud! Was one of the best series I can recall seeing, though after the Oilers shellacked (sp?) the 'Canes Saturday night, I was a worried camper...

Helluva series... Both teams acquited themsleves well...

MoonbatBane #238:

The Republicans have plans to win battles in Iraq, but not the war. That is my belief.

Army Green since '92 #242:

1) I will admit that my exposure to the graft involved in Iraq is OBVIOUSLY not based on personal experience. I would like to know more there.

3) Government funding for science has been a tremendous boon in the past. There are market failures.

4) If more people can speak Arabic/Farsi, then Americans will at least better be able to communicate our message, and understand their message. I think that's key.

6) My belief is to increase troop levels only until the region is fully secured, and THEN decrease troop levels.

7) The army may be better equipped than it's been before, but there still are many ways in which it is lacking - such as body armor.

8) I believe that we can fight the war and keep our civil liberties, and that the Patriot Act is not necessary to fighting the war on terror. "He who is willing to give up a pound of liberty for an ounce of safety deserves neither liberty nor safety." (and I say this as someone who rides the subway daily in NYC)

9) I am glad we agree re: Rummy in the broad sense.

Catttt #248:

I am not a fan of Hillary, I just see her as the best of the worst. (for the record)

#227 Quella,
Thanks for the link. I knew next to nothing about George Allen... I like what I just read!

Hey Lizards,

I think Quella means we should learn Farzi/Urdu etc. so that we don't have to hire "moderate muslims" to translate their captured docs. Let's not pile on (at least for that LOL)

Ya know, I lurk here a lot, and I don't want to sound like I'm shooting the messenger (Charles), but I'm officially "Kos-ed" out. That chaffhead's 15 minutes of fame have gone on about 14 minutes too long, and I simply can't make myself care what he or his mouth-breathing sycophants have to say about anything.

#242 Army Green since '92

btw, on point three, I assure you there is a real effort going on to gain energy as you suggest; by the market and the potentially scrubbing our arse with 100s incentive way. I promise if I or anyone else makes a break thru, our companies will be hiring you as cfo the instant you get back home.

republic #258:

You may want to paint me that way, but you would be wrong. My reasoning for the greater scrutiny of the contracts in Iraq is purely out of fiscal responsibility, and NOT due to some sort of "one standard applied to America and a different to the world" policy.

Hate is the only human emotion that harms the hater more than the object of that hatred. My fellow lizards, do not expend your precious life energy hating the leftists of our nation. They provide no value to society. If Darwinism is valid, natural selection will soon weed out these non-productive, non-beneficial organisms. Extinction is their only future.

#30 Ned the Red

A couple of miles up this thread you stated that the Kos kids are beneath Whale shit. That actually embues them with some value. Whale shit, or ambergrist, is quite valuable in perfume manufacture. The Kos kids have no value whatsoever.

republic

Amnesty International's turning the other cheek, to ALL "atrocities" commited by the world at large, with the lone exception, the "fancied", "atrocities", "commited by the USA.

not fair now...you know full well that Amnesty International points out Israels faults too. So, quella gets a break?

NO! Just kidding! I'm with you on the list and didn't really consider that track.

I'm regaining my sense of humor tonight...thanks.

I can't think of anyone less relevant who has gotten more print/airtime in recent memory.

Paris Hilton?

"i weep for my country"

farkin drama queen

268 Goesto11

I can't think of anyone less relevant who has gotten more print/airtime in recent memory.

Paris Hilton?

Brittany Spears. Hands Down.

TotallySirius #255:

A corn farmer may want to join the army. You never know. Meanwhile, we have an educated public. It cannot hurt to know another language.

shortboard surfer #262:

You stated it exactly. I am hardly advocating teaching Farsi instead of English!

canadianconservative #261:

I guess we simply see the world differently.

freedom rings #256:

I do not demonize the ACLU as others do (although I also am not in love with it), so your link re: ACLU's lifetime rating does not phase me.