Deportation station, aaall aboard!

Looks like the Middle Ages are making a come back.

out of the mouths of slaves

They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out.

In my neck of the woods, that's called a death trap.

It's the Roach Motel of religions.

There is no disagreement about it.

Moonbats, wake up.

I'm suprised. No taqqiya at all in that letter!

If that isn't enough to keep non-muslims away from islam, I don't know what is.

They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out.

Gangsta fa Life™

A hundred books came out this year denouncing Christianity. Many were bestsellers and got great coverage in the MSM. Many of these books were written, edited, published, publicized and sold by nominal Christians -- individuals born to Christian parents, and/or baptized, or whatever.

Wonder why they're not scared of being beheaded. Could it be because ... all religions are not alike? Nawww...

I have been boycotting the book industry because of its anti-Christianity, which in my mind is exactly the same as its dhimmified cowardice.

Go to libraries. It's free.

This is the one advantage with have with this enemy: they so believe in their cause that they are loathe to dissemble about what that cause means and what it entails.

My question is this, though: we, as a liberal democracy, believe in freedom of religion. We also believe in tolerance of others' religious views. On what grounds, therefore, can we convince a majority of Americans that Islam is dangerous? Doesn't accepting that this particular religion is beyond the pale mean at the very least a partial repudiation of our liberal values?

This is what I mean when I say that one could not hope to design an enemy more ideologically challenging than radical Islam: we lack the ideological tools to resist it, our deepest beliefs cry out against condemning it.

Islam is a guide for humanity, for all times, until the day of judgment. It is forbidden in Islam to convert to any other religion. The penalty is death. There is no disagreement about it.

Islam is being embraced by people of other faiths all the time. They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out. This rule is not made by Muslims; it is the supreme law of God.

Gee, converting to Islam is just like joining the Mafia. Whodathunkit?

But George Bush told me that Islam is a religion of peace? He wouldn't lie, would he?

NOT a religion a Death Cult

Islam is being embraced by people of other faiths all the time. They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out.

In other words:

We are programmed to receive. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

Sooo, about all these "moderate" muslims I'm always reading about here - how do they reconcile with this absolutism of islam? Is "moderate" a muslim codeword for taqqiyah? What they are speaks so loudly I can't hear what the dhimmi supporters of "moderate" islam are saying.

What does N Quraishi know! This is ignorance of Islam! Islam says there shall be no compulsion in Religion! Compulsion is forbidden except where mandated by Islamic Law, and it is Islamic Law, NOT Islam, that...ummm...wait...hold it...

dang.

WELL ANYWAYS, Nobody kills people for apostasy any more! They just TRY to.

and sometimes succeed...but ummm...

Anyway they can't do it until the caliphate is restored, and nobody wants that!

Except the people who do...ummm...

WELL ANYWAYS YOU'RE A RACIST.

Well, the truth is out.

How peaceful is a religion/way of life one cannot leave?

It's not the Mafia; it's a cult.

Religion of (human body)Pieces

or just simple DEATH CULT

always has been always will be

If this is your opinion, GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY.

Its just like any other gang or criminal organization, your in it for life and the only way out is death.

The cult of murdering women and children sleeping in their beds or schoolgirls on school buses

death cult - murder of children

neo-coms respect and fear this cult because they are weak and spineless and dont value human life

I seem to remember something about 'free-will' being important in Christianity.

Guess that doesn't 'jive' with the islamic crowd.

Something about this religion/philosophy reeks of bigotry ... masses too stupid to make life's choices, etc.

#8 Noam Sayin'

That's what I was thinking - like the Crips and the Bloods.

Only in dirty nightshirts.

Oh, and no tatoos.

And of course you'd have to shoot the Ho for showing here knee.

#5 Beagle 7/6/2006 08:25AM PDT

It's the Roach Motel of religions.

Rotating title?

Islam is a guide for humanity, for all times, until the day of judgment.

Oh, the humanity!

It's well past time for this islime s*it to be stamped out.

" a way of life"?
They know nothing but death and enslavement.
We're gonna need a bigger bus...

It is forbidden in Islam to convert to any other religion. The penalty is death. There is no disagreement about it.

Islam is being embraced by people of other faiths all the time. They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out. This rule is not made by Muslims; it is the supreme law of God.

I hate to say it, but at least he's honest. Islam is, after all, the cult of submission.

PIMF

(her)

#12 BIG

There's a huge difference between lying and being wrong. Realpolitk requires tact in the short term to achieve long-term aims.

Realistically, if the POSTUS denounced islam, we'd have a full-scale civil war on our own soil.

For those who don't know: East Lansing where this person is from is mostly Michigan State University. Pretty good chance this clown is associated with the university some how.

"German of Pakistani origin" plows through concrete barrier in his car, and injures 26 people "to get attention."

When they no longer lie about their intentions or the nature of their cult, they think their strength is sufficient to intimidate opposition.

#33 Hooray for Captain Spaulding 7/6/2006 08:36AM PDT
When they no longer lie about their intentions or the nature of their cult, they think their strength is sufficient to intimidate opposition

DING DING DING DING
we have a winner.

So I guess this article about being gay and Muslim will go over quite well too?

Imaan's members feel like they are targets of both a wider society that discriminates against Muslims, and a Muslim community that sees homosexuality as a Western disease.

"Now we're dealing with Islamaphobia within the gay community, and Muslims who say gays can't be Muslims," Ubaid said.

Despite discrimination, Ubaid has found away to forge his own path and has reconciled his attraction to men with his love of Islam.

Islam is not only a religion, it is a complete way of life.

Do tell? Then it's not protected by the First Amendment. Shut down the mosques. All of them.

Islam is not only a religion, it is a complete way of life. Islam guides Muslims from birth to grave.

Walking my dog yesterday in a different part of the neighborhood, I paused to brush an insect from my leg and the wind gusted my skirt a little higher than was decent. Unfortunately, I had paused in front of a house where the homeowner witnessed this "transgression".

Turns out the homeowner is a muslim and he charged out of his garage and yelled at me, red-faced, indignant and at the top of his lungs while his hag-in-a-bag watched from the slit in the closed blinds.

I just stared at him, smiled, turned and bent over to lazily pick up my dog's deposit and went on my way.

He was livid. I've never seen anyone purple before.

muslims are locked in hell on earth and I don't feel sorry for them one little bit.

Bbbbut, I thought Islam was the religion of peace!

#35 lawhawk:

Despite discrimination, Ubaid has found away to forge his own path and has reconciled his attraction to men with his love of Islam.

I'm sure the Ummah will embrace him...and then proceed with the stoning.

Pervez Musharraf almost nuked India

The Pakistani army, led by General Pervez Musharraf, had moved nuclear warheads during the Kargil war so that they could be used against India, exiled former prime minister Nawaz Sharif has claimed in his official biography.

America's New Strategic Partner?

Over the last year, the U.S. and Indian governments struck a deal that recognizes India as a nuclear weapons power. India could in time become a valuable security partner. So despite the deal's flaws and the uncertainties surrounding its implementation, Washington should move forward with it.

#5 Beagle

LOL!

Muslims are supposed to embrace Islam in its totality.

And no one has a problem with all this embracing as long as it's done in an Islamic country.

The moment you choose to live or remain in a non-Islamic country is the moment you agree to live by non-Islamic rules.

What is that so hard to understand?

"This rule is not made by Muslims; it is the supreme law of God." ...said a single man.

It is forbidden in Islam to convert to any other religion. The penalty is death. There is no disagreement about it.

Actually, that's not correct. I strongly disagree. And since I'm not a Muslim, I guess I can disagree without fear of death.

/naivete

It appears that Nazra Quraishi is associated with the Islamic Center of Greater Lansing. Oh, happens to be a teacher of the Kindergarten Sunday school class.

further to my 34 awarding props to 33

EVIL
no matter what form it takes
always uses this unholy trinity

Manipulation
Intimidation
Domination

in that order

I got my mail order delivery today. It is a starter kit for Islam. Pretty simple too. It just had a sharp knife and instructions with pictures.

It shows a picture of a human head, then a X right by the temple, and says:

Insert knife here, cut out brain...dispose.

KevinV,

As long as we hold onto freedom of speech, freedom of religion will work itself out. I have to believe that the idea of killing apostates is repugnant enough to most humans on a fundamental level. We just need to be able to discuss it and its ramifications in the marketplace of ideas for true freedom of religion and thought freedom to win out.

I would still strongly recommend this book, for those of you who haven't read it:

Leaving Islam: Apostates Speak Out, edited by Ibn Warraq

New York Review of Books: "...probably the first book of its kind...testimonies from former Muslims about their estrangement from the Islamic faith."

Their god must be small and insecure indeed to demand death for everyone that decides not to follow him anymore.

Ooooh, Dirk! Hoel California reference.

THAT was BRILLIANT!

PIMF

Hoel should be Hotel.

Gah.

"Good night" said the night man "We are programmed to receive,
You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave"

Welcome to the Hotel Islam-for-ya.

more proof that

islam=5th column

The author, Nazra Quraishi, is listed as a kindergarten teacher in the Sunday school program at The Islamic Society of Greater Lansing.

The Quran and prophet Muhammad’s words and practical application of Quran in life cannot be changed.

The very first Dummies' guide.

#35 lawhawk
ha! gay and muslim?! i shouldn't say it...but, i guess either way, your f'd. huh?!

David Koresh, meet Janet Reno.

#48 snopes:

Too bad that the Islamists don't consider there to be any marketplace for ideas - especially when it comes to Islam and religion in general.

You either submit to Islam or you're declared an enemy who will be attacked relentlessly.

And I have an acquaintance that ONLY sees moral equivalence between Christianity and Islam...

With Christianity showing its depravity during the Inquisition and the Crusades...

And I answered that the leaders who did those copied from Muslims and not by following Christ...

Spain was under Islam for 800 yrs.

Oh great, my local paper. How embarrassing. I agree that the letter-writer is probably associated with the university. There seems to be a small community of radical-thinking Muslims in the area though they mostly keep quiet. Probably made their way up from Detroit...

Whatever happened to the little gem Muslims like to spout about "there being no compulsion in religion"?

OT:
I think the Pepsi/Coke story needs a thread. Good move by Pepsi. Will pay off in the long run for them.

[Link: www.shinesforall.com...]

#24 cobra: I'll second that nomination.

Once again, I say that a religion that is addicted to bloodshed and oppression enjoys no First Amendment protections.

The FedGov needs to shut down all mosques and deport all foreign mullahs/imams immediately.

If you can't think these thoughts with me, then you are cutting your own throats.

My proof? The cities of Bethlehem and Nazareth and the country of Lebanon -- once Christian majority -- are now Muslim majority.

France and England -- once at least nominally Christian -- are being Dhimmified at an alarming rate.

This is a war: We either fight to win -- or we are (de facto) raising the white flag of surrrender.

-- gunjam

#37 Miss Trixie

hag-in-a-bag

Love it

#45
Aviator

It appears you were a bit faster on the google search than I was.

Islam is a cult just like some Christian cults. If you were ever in a cult and then tried to leave it you would know of what I write.

Someone can get caught up in a cult and not know they are. Experiance speaks. I'm not an uneducated person, I have served in the military and have a degree. Once out it takes many years to get back to reality. Some never get it out of them. Some teachings are difficult to forget. Family members treat you as dead. The isolation is tough and the harrassment is far reaching and lasts a lifetime.

Islam is an especially dangerous cult. It comes out of a stone age mindset where murder for those that dissent is accepted and expected. God help the liberals that don't understand.

Whoops, someone at CAIR will probably tell Nazra to put a cork in it. His letter shows that all "true" muslims would be against the UN Declaration of Human Rights:

Article 18.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

About gays and Islam-

when Mohammad threw in 27 smooth young boys as beautiful as pearls to go with the 72 virgins (and, despite the talk about raisins, I give Mo credit for knowing you can get a lot more murder out of people for sex than for shriveled grapes) I'm pretty sure he was tossing a bone, as it were, to some of his followers of alternative sexual orientation.

Plus, I hear Taliban Kandahar was famous for grown men buggering teenaged boys.

I have heard that Muslims don't have a problem with the quarterbacks so much as they do with the tight ends and wide receivers.

This just in, wifffeee being moved to nursing home, gotta go.

I will try again.

I live in East Lansing.

BenZ ~ our prayers follow you...

The author, Nazra Quraishi, is listed as a kindergarten teacher in the Sunday school program at The Islamic Society of Greater Lansing.

Wow, worse than I imagined...

Nazra needs some reeducation videos to loosen that cork in her ass.

#36 BH 7/6/2006 08:38AM PDT

Do tell? Then it's not protected by the First Amendment. Shut down the mosques. All of them.

I see that you and I are on the same (and only sane) wavelength!

-- gunjam

We can have the America that the founders envisioned, and that most of us grew up with, or we can have a muslim population dwelling within our borders. We cannot have both. As long as they are here they will push relentlessly for concession after concession to accomodate their "complete way of life". They will make no concession to ours. Every concession that we make diminishes our liberty, and security, and strengthens their position. It is jihad through "peaceful means" nothing less.
Their openly stated goal is to undo our system and they will use our constitutionally guaranteed freedoms to undermine and destroy us. And because of the equal protection clause the inconveniences and restrictions and continued diminishment of privacy and freedom must be visited on all Americans, not just the ones who would destroy us.
Because of the muslim population we need a department of homeland security. Because of the muslim population we need the NSA monitoring programs. Because of the muslim population we need the swift program. Because of the muslim population we need airport screening. Because of the muslim population we have the FBI working overtime.
It's fine for us to vent, to blow off steam and say, "deport the bastards", but you and I both know it isn't going to happen. It can not happen without a radical undoing of our system of laws. Do you see any politician willing to stand up and say, "Enough"? Can you envision any politician with the balls to say even, "No more muslim immigration to the US, No more student visas to muslim countries, no more travel to the US from muslim countries?" I sure don't. GRRR. Anyway, end of rant. Good morning Lizardoids.

JWM

Even when God makes evil obvious, dressed in it's red Satan suit, with scmitar, and death following on a pale horse, humanity STILL wants to deny what is right in it's face.

Rise up and fight you men of the West, or die like dogs barking and talking about your fantasy rights.

lawhawk,

Within Islamic countries, those rules reign. We aren't there yet. We still have a voice.

The gay Muslim is a good story because it is a division of ideas within the Islamic community. If *this* Islamic tradition isn't valid, maybe *that* one isn't either. One new idea breeds 100 more.

From Google he also appears to be a frequent "Letter to the Editor" writer in Lansing. One letter suggests "relocating" Israel.

I can't find anything linking him to MSU, but the Islamic Center is right on the edge of the campus.

sonofsheldon

Yeah, I got you by a couple of minutes. :)

.

The penalty is death

We have rules too, they are called LAW and the LAW says that you are not allowed to threaten anybody in any way. it's a felony. You go to jail for that.

This person should be deported immediately, he/she puts islamic rules above the Law, in so doing is not an American Citizen...

Either Nazra spoke out of turn or the Muslims in Michigan now feel sufficiently confident to state their true beliefs openly.

They've reached critical mass.

#37 Miss Trixie 7/6/2006 08:38AM PDT

I just stared at him, smiled, turned and bent over to lazily pick up my dog's deposit and went on my way.

Clearly, you are one GUTSY (and, no doubt, charming) lady!

In some Muslim-dominated neighborhoods (e.g., in Australia or Denmark or Dearborn), you might not have made it out of there in one piece.

(But I am glad you handled it the way you did!)

-- gunjam

Abdul Rahman has received life. You cannot take that away from him.
Islam is a DEATH CULT. They do not revere life only death. You receive only death, in this life and the next, remember that.
Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.

Americans are a pretty reasonable and understanding group of people, but our patience will eventually run out.

And then we’ll see who is afraid of whom.

When the day comes, (and I believe that day is not far off) when Mosques are in flames, Muslims are being deported, beaten and chased down and killed in the streets, when the Western world has had its belly full of Muslim bile, hate and threats, when no sympathy exists for innocent Muslims who refused to denounce groups like MPACUK and CAIR, who refused to stand up and denounce violent and threatening Muslims, when the civilized world recognizes and calls Islam what it really is – a death cult and evil – sane, civil, peace loving – God fearing people - the world over, will look back at incidents and practices like this, and say: “They’ve brought this on themselves!”

I’m not advocating this, only predicting it based on what I see (when you hear little old Irish ladies in Boston – never friendly to anything violent or bloody - comparing Muslims to Nazis - you know there’s a cultural mind shift is taking place.

Lord help the Muslims, if the little old lady brigade get their hand on ‘em.

Lizards recall designated Hoozier bedwetter Jonathan P. Rossing decrying Zarqawi's death as a "Goulish Victory" and a "celebration of death."

Well, he's back now slandering ROTC "torture";

Pushed too far

A few days ago, I was running a cool-down lap after a speed workout at the track -- part of my marathon training program -- when several Army ROTC guys arrived for a workout. After some push-ups, sit-ups and stretches, they began circling the track as well. I finished up my cool-down and began to stretch while they kept on with their two-mile run, and I witnessed something I had only seen in exaggerated caricatures in military movies.

Apparently, these guys were supposed to complete two miles within an allotted time, but one of them was falling just a little bit behind pace. The commanding officer started running right behind him, screaming at him to speed up. Some of the choice motivating statements included: "When you're on the battlefield, you won't have the luxury of moseying in-between buildings while bombs go off around you!" "Terrorists and insurgents love slow people like you! You give them an easy target!"
---
Surely, there are healthier approaches for pushing someone to the limit -- and for instilling grit and toughness. I realize this questionable tactic might be designed to build "character" and "strength," but [but, BUT!] does someone's health, well-being and humanity have to be put on the line in order to achieve these results? It's fortunate that "don't ask, don't tell" will forever keep me ignorant of how bad this form of hazing (dare I say, "mild torture?") can get.

I'll just never understand how degrading someone might make him stronger, how battering someone makes her tougher. From my vantage point, it's psychological abuse that desensitizes people from human relationships -- and diminishes, rather than enriches, society.

[The author of this slander-- Whiteness Studies graduate student, group exercise instructor and GLBT activist-- can reached @ jrossing@indiana.edu.]

#37 Miss Trixie

He was a moderate.

#71 bianchi_roadie

Your quote -

to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

I'm a bit troubled by the 'manifest' word and it being used in conjunction with 'practice'; esp. if the 'practices' of islam legitimately include honor killings, taquiyya, pedophilia, etc.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised as it was written by UN-crats.

Besides the evil inherent in killing those who try to leave, it speaks volumes that they have to have that rule in the first place.

If you see a place with armed guards keeping people in, you know the place itself is a hellhole.

#78 gunjam

Yep, I'm on board. If a rabid dog attacks my kid I don't try to get rid of all dogs in the neighborhood, because the one dog was sick and varied from the norm. But if a snake bites my kid, I will hunt down and kill every snake I can find. Because it was acting like a snake.

#79 jwm 7/6/2006 08:52AM PDT

It's fine for us to vent, to blow off steam and say, "deport the bastards", but you and I both know it isn't going to happen. It can not happen without a radical undoing of our system of laws. Do you see any politician willing to stand up and say, "Enough"? Can you envision any politician with the balls to say even, "No more muslim immigration to the US, No more student visas to muslim countries, no more travel to the US from muslim countries?" I sure don't. GRRR. Anyway, end of rant. Good morning Lizardoids

I surely don't see it happening under our current President, who has been captured on film holding hands (holding HANDS!) with the leader of the country that supplied 19 of the 22 9-11 hijackers.

One of GWB's State Department's reactions to 9-11 was to DOUBLE this past year the number of STUDENT VISAS to Saudis to come study in this country.

President Bush is part of the problem we have of dangerously INCREASING the Muslim (and Mexican) presence in this country.

-- gunjam

"Please do not ask us Muslims to pick some rules and disregard other rules. Muslims are supposed to embrace Islam in its totality."

Then let them embrace Sura 5:21.

46 BabbaZee 7/6/2006 08:41AM PDT

One thing seems to have escaped them: we're also armed. Some of us (ehem!) to the teeth.

Where is the Taqqiyah ?(sp)

From mark steyn a few months ago:

“In a more culturally confident age, the British in India were faced with the practice of `suttee’ - the tradition of burning widows on the funeral pyres of their husbands. Gen. Sir Charles Napier was impeccably multicultural: `You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: When men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks, and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.’”

There is much speculation about what the song "Hotel California" is really about.

Some say it's about devil worship.

Some say it's about drug abuse.

The Eagles guys themselves say it's about the seductiveness of Hollywood, fame, and money.

But now I know what it's REALLY about.

It's about Islam.

"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."

I searched for this person on the net and I got this nice web page:

[Link: www.lansingislam.com...]

Go to the opinion page thaat Charles linked to, then look at the comment just below this idiot's comment.

Islam or death

Let's see how CAIR dances around this one!

97 Hooray for Captain Spaulding
Amen
and ehem here too

#82 Aviator

He's probably operating out of Govenor Granholm's office (in the capitol building); she gets all warm and fuzzy whenever anyone talks about islam.

Sure you all seen this but hey, good news bear repeating:

Got About A Dozen In Northern Gaza

Here's another charming letter to the editor from Nazra.

BY THE SAME NAZI:

Published April 14, 2005

Thursday's letters to the editor

Relocate Israel

I read with interest William E. Molnar's "Arabs still can't accept Israel's existence" (Forum, April 3). It has all the old arguments of being in favor of the state of Israel.

It is still a racist state and existing on the might of the U.S. government.

Palestine was not a barren land where the Jews of Europe went to live with British protection. Palestinians already were living there.

It is the saddest part of the history of white imperialism that created and sustains the state of Israel.

There will be no peace in this century and beyond if there is not a solution to the Palestine problem. U.S. security depends on it, too. The state of Israel and what it is doing in the West Bank are barbaric.

Maybe we should think about a state of Israel in some part of the United States.

Nazra Quraishi
East Lansing

#100 tigger2005

Actually, its about the Navy brig in San Diego.

Trust me.

Realistically, if the POSTUS denounced islam, we'd have a full-scale civil war on our own soil.

Which, quite frankly, I don't have a problem with. The sooner the better, to be honest. We're just kidding ourselves at this point.

And Miss Trixie, you can walk in front of my house anytime.

I think the Mafia has a better dental plan though...

She also wrote this letter to the ed.

"

Published April 14, 2005

Thursday's letters to the editor

Relocate Israel

I read with interest William E. Molnar's "Arabs still can't accept Israel's existence" (Forum, April 3). It has all the old arguments of being in favor of the state of Israel.

It is still a racist state and existing on the might of the U.S. government.

Palestine was not a barren land where the Jews of Europe went to live with British protection. Palestinians already were living there.

It is the saddest part of the history of white imperialism that created and sustains the state of Israel.

There will be no peace in this century and beyond if there is not a solution to the Palestine problem. U.S. security depends on it, too. The state of Israel and what it is doing in the West Bank are barbaric.

Maybe we should think about a state of Israel in some part of the United States.

Nazra Quraishi"

#90 Terp Mole
Love your post. Right after the paragraph stating what the cadets said to motivate their partner he starts a paragraph with the words "Surely there is a healthier way". Staying alive is pretty much the healthiest thing you can do.
/what a wuss

hmmm, I'm a bit slow...

So...Islam is like a Roach Motel? Muslims can check in but they can't check out?

#108 Myself

RELOCATE the invaders !
muslims out of the West !
islam back to arabia !

Wow -- you can get in but you can't get out -- sound more like a cult than a religion. The mafia maybe.

anyone who wants to call this guy -- here's a link to his information on yahoo people search:

[Link: phone.people.yahoo.com...]

This statement seems to disqualify Muslims from living in any non-Muslim society.

The Quran and prophet Muhammad’s words and practical application of Quran in life cannot be changed.

Something wrong here? He left out the PBUH.

We might need the 48 hr rule on this one.

Islam = Death R Us
Option 1 Death as martyr by suicide bomb
Option 2 Death by imam for insulting Moehamhead or not being Muslim enough
Option 3 Death for not embracing our death cult

#121abu_garcia

I'd like to think it was the newspaper editing for space.

#90 Terp Mole

Such delicate souls as this are one of the reasons the West has so many problems at the moment.

#111 jimg

The sooner the better, to be honest. We're just kidding ourselves at this point.

I think you may be right. We will have war at one point. Why wait until their strength increases?

We do not need to attack first, as we know is sometimes necessary but goes against our nature; all we need to do is stop going to such great lengths to soothe them at every turn from attacking.

If we stop bending on freedom and do not falter, the attacks will come and we can deal with it.

Welcome to the Hotel Intifadah

You can check out anytime we like

but you can never leave.

"Islam is not only a religion, it is a complete way of life. Islam guides Muslims from birth to grave."

Yes, and more quickly than anything else I can think of.

Join islam, join the devil, no freedom: thus they are so miserable that worldwide they are asking, by their actions, for the rest of us to put them out of their misery.

That's how I see it.

#100 tigger

There is much speculation about what the song "Hotel California" is really about.

There is a Hotel California in the sleazy part of SF, near that "art" movie house that was owned by the two brothers and the Condor.

No, I didn't go into any of those places, but I was in SF on business staying at a 4star hotel nearby and took a walk.

Enjoy the peace,love and warm fuzzy fealing of Islam.

...or we'll kill ya!

/Islamofascist off

#90 Terp Mole

. . . And of course, opposed to this delicate soul, who finds military training too brutal and an excuse to practice psychological abuse, are the Islamofacists, who claim to love death better than life, and who are willing to blow up their own kids in order to kill the enemy.

It's too society at large is losing the ideal of the brave man who fights nobly (he doesn't sacrifice kids) for a righteous cause.

All these delicate souls bode no good for the survival of our civilization.

I always thought Hotel California was about Alistair Crowley's bunch.

Ho ho ho its Magik...

2006:

It is forbidden in Islan to convert to any other religion. The penalty is death. There is no disagreement about it...They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out.

1936:

"Ein Volk, Ein Land, Ein Fuhrer."

They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out. This rule is not made by Muslims; it is the supreme law of God.

Just like the Mafia.

Correction: in my post above I should have said, "It's too bad";

Which it is, of course.

This is why I like blogs and how different things are today then 10 years ago. Example:

Around 1995 or so, a teacher at Duluth Central Hight School in Minnesota wrote a letter to the editor condemning students at his school who particapated in the Jr ROTC program.

He called them "goose stepping Nazi's" in the letter.

#89 Blue Chip

I think we're having the same "vision". In the last few years at work, I'm hearing hatred for the muslims. I see a version of the KKK starting (in a few years) directed at the ME people.

"Please do not ask us Muslims to pick some rules and disregard other rules."

You are living in the United States of America, pal, and should understand and accept some of our rules. If you find that too difficult, leave.

With a last name like, he should know.

Was this not the tribe of mo, first given the ultimatum?

Houston, we have a problem. But it ain't the damn foam coming off the shuttle.

Well, if it's death they want...

#98 Albemarle 7/6/2006 09:02AM PDT

Where is the Taqqiyah ?(sp)

Taqiyya is an Islamic doctrine that basically says it is OK to lie to and deceive infidels, esp. if it advances the cause of Islam. Here's a link.

#136 rw in san diego

You are living in the United States of America, pal, and should understand and accept some of our rules. If you find that too difficult, leave.

Some people apparently will require an assist to the port. Preferably at gunpoint.

Hmmm... relocate Israel...

...relocate Israel...

...relocate Israel...

How about to...

East Lansing?

Nazra Quraishi is kindergarten teacher at an Islamic school in Michigan. How quaint.

[Link: lansingislam.com...]

Splain this statement from Tariq Ramadamading-dong for me por favor:

Western Muslims must develop a critical discourse that rejects victimhood, and that criticises radical or literal readings of religious teachings. It is also important not to conflate or confuse religion with separate debates: social problems are not religious problems and have nothing to do with Islam as such.

Isn't that a problem? Asking Muslims to "not believe" or criticize the true Quran? What's the point of the whole cult religion then?

Linky-doo

#141 FlyingTigress

East Lansing?

Too many academic commies, and compared to Tel Aviv, the weather sucks.

So trying Islam out for a couple of days to see how it goes is not kosher?

Welcome to the Hotel California...

#136

You are living in the United States of America, pal, and should understand and accept some of our rules. If you find that too difficult, leave.

You know, every time I hear/read someone saying "...in the United States of America (or U.S.of A.), pal...", I remember that scene in the movie "The Shadow" with Alec Baldwin, dressed in a nice dark business suit, pointing his finger at his adversary.

gunjam

Clearly, you are one GUTSY (and, no doubt, charming) lady!

Well I wouldn't say gutsy but I would definately say PISSED. This guy must think he's "CAPTAIN OF THE MUSLIMS" to try and intimidate me because of his uber-touchy muslim sensitivities over this incident.

I am NOT going to change my habits, wardrobe, meals in restaurants or anything that may offend. This is the West and we do as we please because our soldiers bloody-well made sacrificed and made sure.

Get over it, ya smelly savage and get a life.

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Winston Churchill

Maybe we should make conversion to islam illegal. At the very least anyone contemplating that should be guaranteed a bed in their local mental institution.

#144

Yeah. But watching the collective heads of Nazra and his 'friends' explode could be fun.

"What are you complaining about? They relocated!"

Islam is not only a religion; it is a complete way of life.

Well, so long as I can still date cute gay men, eat pork chops, drink martinis and visit P-Town, I should be ok, right?

//I’d look awful in a turban…

#150 Carl B

Maybe we should make conversion to islam illegal.

Lemme see if I got this right - Conversion to Islam is a par with suicide? Something that enlightened societies discourage?

- Interesting.

It is forbidden in Islam to convert to any other religion. The penalty is death. There is no disagreement about it.

Just like the mafia, once you're a member the only way out is by death (if "The Sopranos" is accurate).

I think Nazra is actually a woman. Thus, given her status under Islamic law, her opinions on the same should not be taken as, er, Gospel. Just the same, get her out of this country, please.

Does anyone have a link to the story yesterday about the pig's head being thrown into a mosque? I look at so many sites, that I forget where it was shown.

Islam is not only a religion; it is a complete way of life.

The "Amway from Hell".

At least you could drop your distributorship without being killed.

There can be no fifty-fifty Americanism in this country. There is room here for only 100 percent. Americanism, only for those who are Americans and nothing else.
Theodore Roosevelt

I'll give credit to Lansing State Journal for printing this letter. Usually letters that sound this twisted don't see print.

Boy, I'd love to see the letters they get in response to this--especially the ones they will not find fit to print.

Le Roy Barnett's letter ("Muslims, speak up," June 26)

...and so Nazra did.

Modern free and open society holds freedom of religion as a basic human right.

Those who want to subscribe to a psychotic dark ages death cult in which changing from one religion to another religion is punishable by death should preferably move out of the USA to a cult-ruled country where that is not considered to be murder.

#62 psaturn

Unfortunately, Christianity was just as violently coercive as Islam was back in the early days of Islam.

When the Holy Roman Empire, for example, converted the Germanic tribes, villagers were given the choice between baptism and decapitation.

The obvious difference is that European Christianity has mellowed out, while Islam has not changed at all - Christian weakness in Europe leaves it helpless in the face of the Islamic resurgence.

But this is nothing new- the weakness of Christianity in the Old World left it unable to deal with Communism and Nazism, too.

Christianity's main strength is in the New World.

#37 Miss Trixie
I just stared at him, smiled, turned and bent over to lazily pick up my dog's deposit and went on my way.

Yorkies are so smart! Recognizing a perfect spot for a dump.

It's worse still for those born into islam...they didn't even have a choice.

I guess islam doesn't have confirmation or anything like that.

It doesn't matter what anyone says Islam is or isn't. That's a wild goat chase. It's what the brainwashed do that counts.

Dig this: the letter writer teaches Islamic Sunday School...to kindergarteners.

Islamic School of Greater Lansing's Sunday School Department List

Does anyone have a link to the story yesterday about the pig's head being thrown into a mosque?

That was the 3rd ‘lead’ story on the local news at 6:00 last night in Boston…

Never mind North Korea, some clown committed a hate crime…

Sorry, I don't have a link...

Please do not ask us Muslims to pick some rules and disregard other rules. Muslims are supposed to embrace Islam in its totality.

*Channeling Michael Corleone in the The Godfather III*

"Everytime I want to get out, they pull me back in!"

i thought the Muslim day of prayer was Friday. Why do they have Sunday school classes? Sounds like an attempt to mask or blend in. I wonder where they have Vacation Koran School? Maybe in a madrasa in Pakistan.

:It's a perfidious pigshit cult

:It's the spawn of satan

:perfidious pigshit cult

:spawn of satan

:Islam, it's a whole way of life

:it's two, it's two cults in one.

/iiappc

#132 storagemanger

Just like the Mafia.

Hey, I'm Italian and I'm offended by that! Issue a Mafwa (Italian fatwa) on that guy immediately!

/do I need it?

I have no idea where to post this, but it's interesting.

Gay and "Passionate about Islam"--part of MSNBC's Islam in Europe series

I won't ask him to change a thing other than his domicile...I can smell the evil stench here in Olympia.

#162 funkyfantom

Unfortunately, Christianity was just as violently coercive as Islam was back in the early days of Islam.

Man is violent. Regardless of what men may have done in the name of Christianity, the acts are not supported by the teachings of Jesus.

Whether any man accepts the Bible or the Qu'ran as Holy Writ, the differences in the teachings of the faith are clear and unequivocable. Contrast the lives of Christ and Mohammed.

Christ was rejected and went to the cross. Mohammed was rejected and went to another city (Medina) where he raised an army and conquered those who rejected him (Mecca).

Christ was tempted and rejected the temptation of wordly power. Mohammed began preaching a much softer message than the one he eventually espoused. He was frustrated by his lack of success and turned to armed force.

Islam cannot "mellow" without rejecting the example of Mohammed. Mohammed’s life was lived as the antithesis of Jesus’s. I’ll leave the rest of the “antis” to others.

Iran Condemns Blast in Iraq ..He said "The wrong moves of the US occupiers and their irresponsibility and heedless behavior towards the present insecurities in Iraq have led to the escalation of violence and terrorism in that country," stressing that the wrong actions of the United States have turned into a good alibi for the terrorists.

[Link: www.farsnews.com...]

#174 abu_garcia
#162 funkyfantom

[Link: answering-islam.org...]

[Link: www.dccsa.com...]

I had a 15 year old tell me this morning "Religion of Peace? That's a lie. Everytime you hear about it it's because they blew something up."

It only seems like the word isn't reaching the people, it is. It's just not reaching the moonbats.

37 Miss Trixie

Well, um...any photos for the Blog-Lizard-Army to review and determine the level of offence? Might need to establish a commission.

PS. The dog deserves a medal: John Kerry Silver Star award with meatball cluster.

Can some one explain to me just where this leaves Obama...he was a Muslim and now he's not!

rcris5

Meatball cluster. Meatball cluster

Wiping tears from my eyes.

Too damn funny.

#59 pointed stick 7/6/2006 08:45AM PDT

ha! gay and muslim?! i shouldn't say it...but, i guess either way, your f'd. huh?!

Note to self: Stop reading LGF at work during lunch. Coke spewing through nose & spraying keyboard not cool.

#10 KevinV 7/6/2006 08:29AM PDT

My question is this, though: we, as a liberal democracy, believe in freedom of religion. We also believe in tolerance of others' religious views. On what grounds, therefore, can we convince a majority of Americans that Islam is dangerous? Doesn't accepting that this particular religion is beyond the pale mean at the very least a partial repudiation of our liberal values?

That freedom does not extend to all religious practices and anti-social cults. For example, many satanists believe in various forms of animal sacrifice. Such behavior is not tolerated and is not covered under the concept of freedom of religion, and any religion that advocates such also is not tolerated.

Likewise, radical Islam (not going to get into how much of Islam falls into that category) appears to advocate sacrifice of Muslims and murder of infidels. Such behavior is not tolerated and is not covered under the concept of freedom of religion, and any religion that advocates such also should not be tolerated.

Education (not the liberal indoctrination that passes for education in LLL land) is the key to waking up Americans to these sad realities...

Islam or death

Cake or death?

Oh #172, jeez, it's no big deal. Many many Muslim men come to Europe to live their sexuality, sort of like gay men going to San Francisco. One must be understanding, even though it's not my thing. If it makes them happy to do THAT. Even if they find "friends" at the hahaha Mosque, I bwahahah, under bwhahahahah stand. Oh, I can't go on. I'm spliting my gut. bwahahahahahaha

:What's under the rocks, Yogi?

:I think it's an apostate, BooBoo.

:But I thought that guy over there with the pike up his ass was an apostate, Yogi.

:Yea, BooBoo, let's go ask that guy that's missing a hand and a foot about it.

/Welcome to my world. Won't you come on in?

Yet another Nazra letter...

West has ears closed -- Keith Kelly's July 12 Viewpoint was disappointing. I get the feeling the West is not in a mood to have dialogue with the Muslim world.

With the ridiculous, absolutist views espoused in Nazra's most recent letter, is it any surprise to him/her why this is the case? Is the Muslim world in any mood to have dialogue with the West?

dialogue?

Yea

#172 Al Gore

Interesting article (gay and Muslim).

Unfortunately, a huge majority of followers in Islam would kill him just for acknowledging his homosexuality, let alone practicing it. And he knows it.

He thinks he can balance the two with ‘tolerance’.

Not likely in my opinion – Imam’s aren’t too 'tolerant' of gay sex. Or much else.

BTW: To the gays on the left, anything short of a white wedding in St. Patrick’s is considered discriminating yet ‘hanging fags’ from lamp posts in Iran or dropping brick walls on gays in Islamic countries is pretty much ignored. I believe it’s called ‘useful idiots’?

In the Billions of words that have been uttered and written on the subject of Islam and it's incompatibility with western culture, there can be only one conclusion.

Three words.

#167 Blue Chip

Yes, a hate crime! What a hateful thing to do to a perfectly good pig's head! My great Aunt Sally would have made the most delicious hog's head cheese out of that. And fried pig's brain with scrambled eggs for breakfast. Oh, the inhumanity!

#148 Miss Trixie

Allow me to suggest that you carry a little Keltec .32ACP or .380 just in case Mr. Purple Face gets a little too crazy.

#5 Beagle

LMAO!

Exactomundo!

#176 babbazee

Your links are correct from a faith standpoint, but I find it better to emphasize the histories as presented by the documents and accepted in general parlance. One can then argue from logic without relying on faith-based statements.

#181 markx
sorry about that. i'm good for one of those every once in 1,000 posts or so. send me the cleaning bill for your monitor. ; )

Also--

Well said, #174 abu_garcia

The mention of self-identified gay Muslims:

Imaan's members feel like they are targets of both a wider society that discriminates against Muslims, and a Muslim community that sees homosexuality as a Western disease.

"Now we're dealing with Islamaphobia within the gay community, and Muslims who say gays can't be Muslims," Ubaid said.

...reminds me to recommend the fascinating documentary Trembling Before G-d, which looks at the difficult lives of Jewish homosexuals in the Orthodox and Hassidic communities.

In bringing it up, I don't mean to imply a comparison between the worlds of Islam and Orthodox Judaism; however, the documentary does offer some insights that may be generally applicable. Most importantly, it looks at the question, "why do these people choose to continue identifying with a highly conservative faith community that ostracizes them?"

193 abu_garcia

Ye shall know them by their fruits

...and be able to use those fruits for logical argument
:~P

There is simply no place for these vile, subhuman pigs among civilized peoples.

It's time to purge the United States of this 6th Centurt infestation once and for all.

I vote to convert them.

Besides the enlightening message conveyed by the letter writer I'm a little intrigued by the fact that he left the obligatory(?) "peanut butter upon him" (PBUH) out of the letter.

I can't recall the last time I saw a Muslim write Mo's name and not follow it with a "(PBUH)".

I couldn’t manage to get the link to work, however, I am reassured that the Lansing State Journal had the good sense to publish that letter. Our government does not need to get into the business of discrediting Islam; Islam is doing just fine all by itself and that letter proves it.

Our Almighty Creator gave mankind something that he gave no other of his living creations: a mind, the ability to choose between good and evil, and a spirit with which to build a relationship with Him. Allah, it appears, does not reflect the true identity of that Almighty Creator, and is therefore not the true god. Allah’s idea of his kingdom is one on Earth, and death and destruction are his promises. All one has to do is submit to Allah’s religion, obey all those rules, fear for one’s life in this world and the next, and force it upon every other person on Earth. In other words, sell your soul to Allah.

For those of us who still can use our minds, we don’t need a religion, Allah’s or otherwise, to tell us what to do. We don’t need a government to fix it. It is up to each one of us as individuals to make the correct choices. We are only here for several decades and are a very impatient species. We want everything fixed in this world, in our lifetimes, according to our agenda, by someone else, and expect the Almighty to cooperate. The burden falls upon mankind to correct evil. It has been almost five years since 9/11. Many of us have used our minds productively to learn more about the evil that is Imperialistic Islamist Expansionism. I for one was rather nonchalant before then, but not anymore. So I am a force of just one who Allah ain’t gonna get. Each individual person is the key to success.

So I thank this letter writer for publishing yet some more information so that those like me, who would resist, can be more resolved in our efforts. I think that the “ball is now in Allah’s court”. As much as Allah’s hordes spew out their hateful intentions of death and destruction, they haven’t managed any events in the past five years to equal their past “glory”. But they’ve given us five years to figure out their filthy agenda. No matter what they accomplish next, they are already damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Exactly how it should be.

Sorry for the long comment. Thanks for listening to Grandma on this cool and rainy SC afternoon, and have a nice day.

#172 I_Invented_Al_Gore

Quote from his link:

On July 1, around 25 Imaan members rode atop a float in the EuroPride 06 parade in London. With banners reading "Gay Muslims unveiled" and flags of the United Kingdom and from across the Islamic world, they waved cheerfully at the crowd.

While they didn't hide themselves in rainbow burkhas as they did the previous year, most were still reluctant to give their names or be photographed for fear of reprisals.

Like Rush says "Folks you can't make this stuff up"

60 times in the quran it tells the believers of islam, to "kill the unbelievers and infidels".

It also says to the believers of islam, "deceive them, pretend you are their friends, until the sacred years of peace are over, then, kill the unbelievers wherever they are."

Based on the actions of those who believe in islam, beheadings, cutting off tongues, noses, beating, torturing, and murdering their woman and children, treating their woman worse than dogs, teaching their children from the earliest age, to hate and kill Israeli's and Americans, bombings of other muslims, and anyone who doesn't "conform to allah", I can increase the list, add infinitum.

I want absolutly no part of this "guide for humanity", because there is absolutly no humanity involved in islam!

OT...Everybody fire one!...TAIPEI (Reuters) - Taiwan plans to test-fire a missile capable of hitting China, alarming the island's main ally, the United States, a cable news network said on Thursday.

The Hsiung Feng III, developed by Taiwan's Chungshan Institute of Science and Technology, has a range of 600 km (360 miles) and is accurate to within half a meter, the online edition of cable news network ETTV ([Link: www.ettoday.com)...] said, quoting unnamed military sources.

[Link: reuters.myway.com...]

#196 Throbert

"why do these people choose to continue identifying with a highly conservative {faith} community that ostracizes them?"

I’ve heard the same thing said about ‘gay conservatives’ and ‘gay republicians’ as well.

See GayPatriot dot Net for numerous examples.

The reason why the left so identifies with Islam and kisses up to them is they both are cults. Islam is an evil cult whose members must die if they want to leave.

The left is a cult who issues "just kidding" threats of death to those who disagree. Remember Alec Baldwin and his 'joke' about shooting Henry Hyde and family? I have never heard so many wishes for death to conservatives as I have in the last few years. The latest was that idiot in NY who said Schummer would put a bullet between the president's eyes. (Did the SS ever follow that threat up?)

As much as the left and Islam call Bush Hitler, it is they who walk in lockstep.

Dear Nazra,

Sorry, we don't kill people for apostasy in this country.

It is not allowed, do you understand?

You can follow your f*cking religion all you want up to the point where it infringes on someone else's rights, especially their right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." That it is where it stops. Cold.

If you want to try to change the rules, then pick up a gun, put on a uniform, and take on the U.S. Armed Forces. If you prefer to take the terrorist route, the day will come when armed American citizens will have had enough and will administer their own justice.

Be best if you just get y'self outta town and country, y'hear?

#10 KevinV

My question is this, though: we, as a liberal democracy, believe in freedom of religion. We also believe in tolerance of others' religious views. On what grounds, therefore, can we convince a majority of Americans that Islam is dangerous?

Good question. Americans, and the entire West for that matter, must be shown that life is the standard of value -- life on this earth. That means that we must promote a society founded in reason, individualism, rights, justice, benevolence, science, capitalism, freedom, moral responsibility, and such Enlightenment values. Anything that is antithetical to life is out. We must categorically reject collectivism, mysticism, authoritarianism, substituting emotionalism for reason, moral relativism or skepticism, and the glorification of the base and denegrating, and we must know why they are anti-life. We must become the full, uncompromised realization of the civilization our Founding Fathers seeded. We must be the living embodiment of the best that man can be, and we must know why it is right to be the best and proclaim it proudly.

slightly off topic but there is another rather well written encouraging essay by a moderate canadian muslim in the western standard online magazine this date...salim mansur is a political scientist(waterloo univ. i believe) and writer here in canada.

Same idiot wrote this

read with interest William E. Molnar's "Arabs still can't accept Israel's existence" (Forum, April 3). It has all the old arguments of being in favor of the state of Israel.

It is still a racist state and existing on the might of the U.S. government.

Palestine was not a barren land where the Jews of Europe went to live with British protection. Palestinians already were living there.

It is the saddest part of the history of white imperialism that created and sustains the state of Israel.

There will be no peace in this century and beyond if there is not a solution to the Palestine problem. U.S. security depends on it, too. The state of Israel and what it is doing in the West Bank are barbaric.

Maybe we should think about a state of Israel in some part of the United States.

Nazra Quraishi
East Lansing

I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!
Theodore Roosevelt

#205 Blue Chip

I’ve heard the same thing said about ‘gay conservatives’ and ‘gay republicians’ as well.

i could be wrong, however, but for the religious righters and the general platform stance on same sex marriage, i actually don't see conservativism or republicanism as fundamentally antithetical to homosexuals.

I am only linking, but on this page
[Link: lansingislam.com...]

you find the phone number of this idiot... He/she it is TEACHING!

#208 Lazarus

Good answer.

Let me add:

“When men stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing — they believe in anything.”

Chesterton

#206 ladycatnip

The latest was that idiot in NY who said Schummer would put a bullet between the president's eyes.

The "idiot" who said that, was obviously Chuck Schummer, or the NY Comptroller never would have introduced him that way!

Schummer obviously made that exact statement to the NY Comtroler in their conversations, before the speech that Shmuck Schummer was to give.

The fact that Shmuck Schummer, in no way shape or form, denounced the introduction, he never once said it was out of line, or even wrong, before he made his speech, is proof that Schummer told the NY Comptroler those words.

The fact that they both made some kind of insincere, lame "denouncment" of the comments, hours after the speech, meant absolutly nothing.

I hope the GOP can get ahold of the actual recording of that introduction, and use it in the fall campaign commercials, and also in 2008.

" Do you want these people running America"?

A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education.
Theodore Roosevelt

winsmom

Yorkies are so smart! Recognizing a perfect spot for a dump.

LOL! That's EXACTLY what I was thinking! But seriously, she noses around and I think I must be on my highest alert to see she doesn't eat something laced with death on that lawn.

/I am NOT being paranoid, you just never know with these people savages

rcris5

Well, um...any photos for the Blog-Lizard-Army to review and determine the level of offence? Might need to establish a commission.

LOL!

PS. The dog deserves a medal: John Kerry Silver Star award with meatball cluster.

Meatball Clusters! OMG! ROFL!

Allow me to suggest that you carry a little Keltec .32ACP or .380 just in case Mr. Purple Face gets a little too crazy.

I would love to carry, however, in Canada that's frowned upon just a tad by the Thought Police.

/Stupid liberals

I respect his honesty. I hate 'taqqiya' or whatever they call it that allows the more clever amongst them to pretend that they are tolerent and liberal, but misunderstood by westerners.

Of course, the same cannot be said for the British people and their government, in the UK, Muslims are under siege, liable to be arrested, raided and even shot at for no reason except that we “could potentially be a terrorist”. It could be our beard, it could be our clothes or it could even be the colour of our skin. It is enough nowadays, as the young Brazilian Mr Menezes learnt, just to look like a Muslim to be shot by the police, “just in case” you were a suicide bomber!

Moreover British politicians have made abundantly clear that they are “101%” behind the persecution of the Muslims and that we should just accept it! That they will not tolerate any talk of Islam or Shari’ah, “no negotiations with the implementation of Shari’ah” Mr Clarke said, an “evil ideology” Mr Blair called it.

Furthermore, globally they are engaged in a vicious war against Muslims, one where the “rules have changed”, where extraordinary renditions, torture, rape, humiliation and murder are a necessary step to deal with a threat that has “never been seen before”; where Tony Blair must close his eyes to the atrocities by UK and US soldiers in order to prevent this “evil ideology” taking root in the hearts and minds of the Muslims.

It is enough to hear one example of Bush and Blair’s war in Iraq, let us hear about the brutal murder of innocent families by US troops in Mahmudiyah; this is the account of their neighbour,

[Link: www.alghurabaa.co.uk...]

As a personal friend and spokesperson for Arnold Ziffel, beloved son of Fred and Doris Ziffel, I respectfully request that all references to Pigs, Swine, Hogs, used in describing muslims, islamist, and any related persons or groups cease immediately. To know Arnold is to love Arnold; the same cannot be said of muslims, islamists, etc. Please refer to Post #5 from Beagle for proper terminology to use in future reference to the ROP. ROP does not mean "Religion of Pigs", and shall be hereafter known as ROC (Religion of Cockroaches).

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If you are in support of my request, please acquire and wear the following badge with pride:

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#212 Pointed Stick

i actually don't see conservativism or republicanism as fundamentally antithetical to homosexuals.

It’s not (and I’m an example of that, myself).

If anything, conservatism is a better match for gays (less govt, taxes, personal freedoms, responsibilities, capitalism, they dress better, etc) than liberalism (group think, victimization, socialism, poor personal hygiene, etc).

There are actually quite a few conservative gays that post on LGF.

I usually explain it this way: If the Muslims win, who are they coming after second (after the Jews, of course…)?

And that's why we must reject Islam in its totality.

What Ann Coulter said on 13 Sept 2001 isn't such a bad idea.

216 storagemanager 7/6/2006 10:49AM PDT

So ... you're saying we Buddhists arent educated because we dont believe in the Bible?

You a Christian Taliban, or what?

Grant Drive 7/6/2006 10:59AM PDT

What Ann Coulter said on 13 Sept 2001 isn't such a bad idea.

Is that the “invade them, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity” quote?

//one of my favorites – gutsy, pithy and right on the money

#37

To the grave is reletaviley easy for them.

#190 twolaneflesh
That is awful, why would anyone defile a perfectly good pigs head by throwing it in a mosque. Pigs deserve more respect.

#221 Blue Chip

It’s not (and I’m an example of that, myself).

i figured that from some of your comments. not a problem with me, and i do not mean that to sound judgmental -because it's not.
actually you mentioned taxes and i was thinking fiscally as the majority of men 'in the lifestyle' that i know personally seem to have a tremendous wealth base and wish to keep it that way. although not wishing to be aligned with the unwashed masses of the left also is a very legitimate point! ; )

#214 Blue Chip

#208 Lazarus
Good answer.

Thanks. :)

men 'in the lifestyle' that i know personally seem to have a tremendous wealth base

Hmmm. Any in the Boston area….?

//can’t blame a brother for trying….

At least he's honest -- guess the Imam needs to have a talk with him.

#89 Blue Chip

Lord help the Muslims, if the little old lady brigade get their hand on ‘em.

Shaaa! Don't give our secrets away!

They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out.

Reminds me of an old song with the same sentiment and level of moral acceptability.

Savoy Brown: Needle and Spoon

To some I'm a wise man, to some I'm a fool
But I need a little something to keep my cool
I sleep with the sun and I rise with the moon
And I feel alright with my needle and spoon
I feel alright with my needle and spoon

It’s difficult sometimes to get my stuff
So if I’m evil don’t get in a huff
I sleep with the sun and I rise with the moon
And I feel alright with my needle and spoon
I feel alright with my needle and spoon

Don’t need no women don’t need no wine
‘Cause life is sweet when you hit the main line
I sleep with the sun and I rise with the moon
And I feel alright with my needle and spoon
I feel alright with my needle and spoon

Only one thing that worries my mind
The stuff it kills you and it treats you unkind
If you’re married you can divorce your wife
But when you’re married to “H” then you’re married for life
You’re married to “H” and you’re married for life

Meanwhile, in Deutschland, neo nazis burn Anne Frank's diary.

While the phone number for Nazra Quraishi is listed on the website, it would probably be a really bad idea to call her. Anyone one of us would complain if a group of moonbats harrassed us over the phone. Look at the row (rightly) raised when Rumsfeld's and other's vacation homes were publicized. Write a letter to the Lansing State Journal instead.

#233 Paul

It seems to me a reasonable theory that all populations of human beings will produce a proportion of these types, regardless of what particular antisocial banner they wave. Here in the USA we have our share, too. The question is what a society does with them.

I think the Germans have a pretty good handle on it as far as recognizing them goes, the only deficit seems to be in taking action, which most European societies seem to share as do we (USA).

men 'in the lifestyle' that i know personally seem to have a tremendous wealth base

Hmmm. Any in the Boston area?

//can’t blame a brother for trying.

LOL! Lately in the DC-area gay publications, there have been ads for an outfit called something like gaymillionaires.com, which is essentially a matchmaking service for Sugar Daddies ISO Hot Young "Trophy Husbands."

but it's your choice until we make you.

#221 Blue Chip

Cheers to that from a Jesus-nut conservative. I'll take the fight to the Islama-nazis just as much to protect your right to be "Gay" and gasp...conservative, as I am in the fight to protect the God given rights of my wife and children.

#229 Blue Chip
lol...i'll ask. if there is a functional equivalent to 'jewish geography' you may be in luck!

#221, #238

Ditto again from a Christian. It's not the church's job to tell non-Christians what to do.

[Link: www.searchgodsword.org...]

How contrasty with Islam.

"It is forbidden in Islam to convert to any other religion. The penalty is death. There is no disagreement about it."

Well then it's settled.

Terribly sorry Rahman old boy. It's death for you then.

Did Nazra (Nazi to his friends) mention the approved method of execution?

#234 sonofsheldon

Indeed.

My lesson-o'-the-day from all this --- if you're gonna write highly-charged letters to the editors of newspapers who also post said letters on their website, never, never sign your real name.

#4 vxbush

They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out.

In my neck of the woods, that's called a death trap.

Sound more like a gang. Islamic mafia?

What's the penalty for speaking the name of Muhammad without the "Peace be upon him" qualifier?

#244

didn't you mean "piss be upon him"?

Lord help the Muslims, if the little old lady brigade get their hand on ‘em.

Those bingo halls will make the mosques look like a Cub Scout meeting!

#244 breadfan asks:

What's the penalty for speaking the name of Muhammad without the "Peace be upon him" qualifier?

Your 72 virgins all look like Cindy Shitcan

# 45 Aviator:

It appears that Nazra Quraishi is associated with the Islamic Center of Greater Lansing. Oh, happens to be a teacher of the Kindergarten Sunday school class.

Shouldn't that be "a teacher of the Kindergarten Sunday Friday school class"?

#236 Throbert McGee

Well, where the hell have YOU been? How are Soccer and Rugby?

Ok, many of you already know the trials and tribulations we've had with the Saudi family that used to live next door. A new Saudi family moved in a few months ago and actually seem quite nice - the kids go out of their way to try to be friends with Molly the Beagle (that's a one way street - she can't stand them). The Dad has been very clear that he wants the kids to become 'americanized'. So I'm all for it, right?

One problemo. The wife/mom. Covers even INSIDE the house.

I dunno, just sayin'.

Is this really happening in America?

Can I be afraid of people with this mindset now? Or must I continue to understand the root causes of their anger, which turns out to be the Western European male dominance of society. (yikes)

Don't the moonbats GET it? Completely bloody clear statement about the violent cultish nature of Islam ('there is not compulsion in Islam', right?). Statements like this and ones about how 'decadent the West is and it must embrace Islamic values or die'..when will 'It's the Jihad, stupid' be understood?

storagemanager 7/6/2006 10:53AM PDT
From article linked : "Moreover British politicians have made abundantly clear that they are “101%” behind the persecution of the Muslims and that we should just accept it! That they will not tolerate any talk of Islam or Shari’ah, “no negotiations with the implementation of Shari’ah” Mr Clarke said, an “evil ideology” Mr Blair called it."

I actually could think of some choicer words. Probably not very printable in general newspapers...

True believers are like the anti-Patrick Henry: "Give me Islamic tyranny or give me death."

221 Blue Chip

Agreed, and me too, although I consider myself more classical liberal than conservative.

I believe in freedom. Many good people died for that ideal. And there are those in the world who seek to take it away. To seek to prevent that from happening is not acting in service to Halliburton.

I can't believe that the gays on the left fail to see that, although they will get the wall dropped on them as soon as they finish off the Jews. Maybe concurrently.

251-enraged_badger- Yeah, Dennis Prager had some effete kid on and He said that the Muslims want to preserve their culture and that is why they are agitated. Prager said the story I just read was about Muslims killng those watching a soccer match. They murdered two people when spraying the room with machine gun fire...

Effete kid said, "No they didn't."

It is alwways the Wests fault and W's fault and the USA's fault that the whiners are upset. These useful idiots will have to be dealt with as they are going to get us and our families killed.

Islam is not a religion, it is a disease--a worldwide pestilence. And civilized people everywhere are faced with the imperative of curing or killing one billion practicing victims of its heinous lust for blood, dominion and servile devotion.

So, this kook believes that muslims should be allowed to kill, at will, and the rest of the world is just supposed to sit back, and do nothing!

That is exactly what his "quran" demands that the followers of islam do, at least 60 times!

Deceive, then kill, deceive, then kill, deceive, then kill.

Unreal!

What's even more bizare, is the people who believe that islam is a rop!

"Hey, that person just cut that other persons head off!"

"Yes, they were just following the teachings of muhamad, just look the other way, it is all being done in the name of "peace", or so they say."

Jesus H. Christ...when will people realize there is no place for these virulent subhuman rodents among civilized people!

It's time to make all of the Americas an islam-free zone.

This guy was just jealous of Juan Cole over in Ann Arbor scoring all the Islam-pimping press.

OT: Arrogance aims to create a 'greater Israel' in Middle East

Speaker of Iraq's National Assembly Mahmoud al-Mashadani in a meeting with the representative of the Jurisprudence in Khorasan, Ayatollah Abbas Vaez Tabassi, here Thursday said that the major goal of the arrogance in occupying Iraq is to create a 'great Israel' in the region...

Indonesia quits Zionist regime game

Indonesia has pulled out of its fed cup tennis tie with the Zionist regime later this month in protest over the regime's military crimes in the Gaza Strip, the Foreign Ministry said Thursday.

I used the headlines thought up in the twisted minds of the Iranian reporters...

7 kutabeach

Taqqiya did you say.

In an article in the Independent, Taqqiya master Tariq Ramadan, advises muslims in the West, "Western Muslims must develop a critical discourse that rejects victimhood, and that criticises radical or literal readings of religious teachings.".

[Link: comment.independent.co.uk...]

As the writer states, "Please do not ask us Muslims to pick some rules and disregard other rules. Muslims are supposed to embrace Islam in its totality".

EXACTLY. That means Jihad, be-headings etc. It is naive and futile to expect anything else.

#260 DP111

EXACTLY. That means Jihad, be-headings etc. It is naive and futile to expect anything else.

I agree, the radicals have not "hijacked" the religion, they ARE the religion.

It seems that Nazra Quraishi teaches kindergarten

Hey, what a coincidence, my old kindergarten teacher (Mrs. Heenan - I wonder if she's still alive) used to encourage us kids to murder infidels too! Didn't yours?

No joke, I just SPOKE to her! I asked her directly: "If an American citizen who is a Muslim changes or renounces his or her faith, you believe this person should be executed, even here in America?"

Her answer: "Yes, that it correct." And get this, she FUC**ING GIGGLED when she answered! I am not making this up!

There you have it folks! Give her a ring, her number is linked to the update given by Charles.

There has to be some law against this, there's just gotta be some way to get her out of here. Oh, and yes, trust me by the accent I heard that this one is originally from some serious Islamic sh*t-hole.

I just wrote this letter to the editor of the Lansing newspaper:

In response to Nazra Quraishi's letter "Islam or Death":

This is what mainstream Islam teaches its followers:

"It is forbidden in Islam to convert to any other religion. The penalty is death. There is no disagreement about it". Islam is being embraced by people of other faiths all the time. They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out. This rule is not made by Muslims; it is the supreme law of God".

More citizens need to be aware that this is a widespread belief in Islam and not the rantings of one particular person in its faith. If these beliefs were not mainstream, why would the Islamic Center of Greater Lansing make Nazra Quraishi the teacher of the Kindergarten Sunday school class. Are these beliefs in line with the constitution and American values of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? They seem more consistent with Osama Bin Laden.

My letter just submitted to the Lansing State Journal:

Thank you to Ms. Nazra Quraishi of East Lansing, for writing so clearly that "Islam is a guide for humanity, for all times, until the day of judgment. It is forbidden in Islam to convert to any other religion. The penalty is death."

For too long, too many Americans have been willingly deceiving themselves about the nature of the threat we are facing, right here in our beloved homeland. Now, here it is. The enemy has so much contempt for us, and so little fear, that he is comfortable spitting on everything we hold dear. Life? Liberty? Pursuit of Happiness? Religious tolerance? Hah! Ms. Quraishi makes it clear that American rules do not apply in matters of the islamic faith: "Islam is being embraced by people of other faiths all the time. They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out."

Oh, but you say, these people are ignorant but not dangerous? Funny, the same thing was said about a gang of drunken thugs who used to gather in Munich beer halls in the 1920s preaching another warped ideology of separatism and hate.

#186 doubledip:

Is the Muslim world in any mood to have dialogue with the West?

The Muslim world, and their Western Left supporters, define "dialogue" to mean that we Americans must sit on our hands and keep our mouths shut while the Muslims harangue us about how awful we are.

#306 ladycatnip:

The reason why the left so identifies with Islam and kisses up to them is they both are cults.

No. The reason why the Left has a sneaking admiration for Islam is that with the collapse of Communism, Islam is the only force out there that can take on the hated U.S. and Israel.

I've heard many Leftists speak nostalgically of the Cold War when "the USSR was a counterweight to U.S. imperialism." With the end of communism, the capitalist U.S. appeared triumphant and the world seemed to be going toward free markets and free trade. That stuck in the Left's collective craw. They never accepted it.

Islam is now doing things the Left could only dream of: attacking the hated Pentagon, attacking the hated centers of global capitalism like the World Trade Center, attempting to push the West out of the Third World. Those are the goals of the Islamists, and those were always the goals of the Leftists. They just disagree as to the methods to use.

#267 Right Side

No. The reason why the Left has a sneaking admiration for Islam is that with the collapse of Communism, Islam is the only force out there that can take on the hated U.S. and Israel.

FWIW, I agree, but I'n not sure how "sneaking" it is, after all "Islam means 'peace'", and we know how much leftists love peace.

#267 Right Side

No. The reason why the Left has a sneaking admiration for Islam is that with the collapse of Communism, Islam is the only force out there that can take on the hated U.S. and Israel.

The left doesn't have a sneaking admiration of Islam, but a glaring one. I agree with your reasons why, but my point (which was not very well made) was the left is indeed a cult. Those who dissent are mocked and ridiculed; they threaten conservatives with death (Alec Baldwin just posted on the Huffington Post a dream he has of killing the vice president) or shun their own who disagree.

In any cult there must be total and complete adherence to ALL tenets and principles espoused. Horror stories abound here in the gliterati of Hollywood of those blacklisted, never to work again, because they came out of the closet as a conservative, or were a liberal who didn't toe the party line.

The left's inability to tolerate differences in opinion goes right along with Islam. If the left ever gets into complete power here in the U.S., the natural outcome would be a totalitarian U.S.

Islam and the left were made for each other; they both crave power and demand obeisance. Both pontificate about peace and tolerance while they silence their opposition. Because, after all, it's for our own good.

One of the hallmarks of criminal gangs is the "rule," "Blood in, Blood Out." Islamism sounds just like this to me...

#74 DocMartyn
#263 mfarmer1

For anyone in Lansing interested in discussing this face to face...

The Public Relations and Outreach committee members is having a coffee hour the last Saturday of each month between 10AM-12PM. Invite your non-muslim friends, peers or class mates to this event. This is an open invitation aimed at having a dialogue with non-muslims whom you are encouraged to invite or who are interested in knowing more about Islam. For more details, email pr@lansingislam.com