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Ahmadinejad: Muslims Must Act to Eliminate Israel

Sat, Jul 8, 2006 at 9:23:44 am PDT

At the two-day conference in Iran we noted earlier, attended by officials from Bahrain, Egypt, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for the Islamic world to mobilize and wipe out Israel: Iran’s Ahmadinejad calls for ‘removal of Zionist regime’.

TEHRAN (AFP) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called on Islamic countries to mobilise against Israel and “remove” the “Zionist regime”.

The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime, and the Islamic world and the region must mobilise to remove this problem,” the president said in a speech to regional officials.

He was speaking at the opening of a two-day conference in Tehran on security in Iraq.

“Today there is a strong will... to remove the Zionist regime and implement a legal Palestinian regime all over Palestine. The continued survival of this regime (Israel) means nothing but suffering for the region,” Ahmadinejad said. “The biggest threat today for the region is the existence of the fake Zionist regime,” he added, before going on to attack Israel’s supporters.

“I am reminding them to stop the crimes of this corrupt government before it is too late, and open the way for a government arising from the votes of the indigenous people of Palestine, all over Palestine,” the president said.

He also issued an ominous warning to Western powers.

“Nations in the region will be more furious every day, and it will not be long before this intense fury will lead to a huge explosion,” Ahmadinejad said.

“The waves of fury of Muslim nations will not be confined within the boundaries of the region, and the people who close their ears to the cries of the Palestinians and blindly support this regime will be responsible for the consequences,” he warned.

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1 leftout  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:26:45am

Maybe we could return the favor

2 leftout  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:27:33am

By removing Ahmadinejad that is.

3 TalkinKamel  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:27:35am

Ahh, but we can't take him seriously, you know! He's really just talking in that mystical, wonderful, Arabic/Persian poetic style, that calls for hyperbole, and exaggeration! When he says Israel should be wiped out he really doesn't mean it, and, anyway, everything really is Israel's fault, when it isn't America's!

/Channeling Juan Cole style Moonbats!

4 FrogMarch  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:28:04am

...and the rest of the world should act to eliminate Ahmadinejad.

5 The Other Les  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:28:06am

And my thought was "leave the boomer, take the canoli," but who in their right mind would leave a used fleet ballistic missile submarine laying around after launching a full strike?

6 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:28:18am

When will someone finally eliminate this uber-thug?

7 GNIDAthe#seCond  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:29:02am

HOW ABOUT A 'ZIONIST' FLY-OVER TEHRAN AT KICK-OFF TOMORROW - SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!

OT: Re: "Holland Tunnel" plot

Canadian police questioned a man they suspect of active involvement in the conspiracy, but he was released because there wasn't enough evidence to hold him beyond the period of interrogation, the Canadian Press has learned.

CTV News reported that the man was from Montreal.

CTV also said Canadian authorities are looking into whether alleged ringleader Assem Hammoud ever spent time in Canada. Hammoud was detained in Lebanon on April 6 and interrogated by the FBI.

And CBC News reported that in Lebanon, Hammoud's mother said her son had a Canadian girlfriend and had visited her there.

shawarma anyone?

8 Stringart  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:29:07am
“The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime, and the Islamic world and the region must mobilise to remove this problem,”

That must be one of those Islamic human rights from an earlier thread.

Does anyone, for a nanosecond, think that if Israel and every Jew disappeared that all would be sweetness, light and kite flying in the Islamic world?

The basic problem in the Islamic world is Islam.

9 BenZacharia  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:29:32am

Go for ArmaniDinnerJacket, after that the evil JOOOOS will make sure you live, if you live, in the 7th century.

10 Beagle  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:30:25am

Hitler was nuanced compared to this guy.

11 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:31:58am

Quite nuanced, that Mahmoud.

12 12th Imam(hidden)  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:32:06am
“I am reminding them to stop the crimes of this corrupt government before it is too late, and open the way for a government arising from the votes of the indigenous people of Palestine, all over Palestine,” the president said.

That's an odd way for a [bigoted word] to refer to Hamas.

13 leftout  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:32:08am
“Today there is a strong will... to remove the Zionist regime and implement a legal Palestinian regime all over Palestine. The continued survival of this regime (Israel) means nothing but suffering for the region,”


Why didn't the Arabs except the 1948 UN partition way back when. Then we wouldn't have today's problems. Could it be the Arabs are the problem because the did not and will except Israel's right to exists as set out by the UN.
UN partition of the Holy land

14 Earth2moonbat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:32:35am
The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime

What's the problem? IAF preventing you from flying kites?

15 lawhawk  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:32:50am

The basic problem with the Islamic world is that it's full of Islamists.

They want to turn their corner of the world into an infidel free zone - and their corner of the world is pretty much every part of the world that a Muslim has ever set foot. Do the math. And the geography.

But anyone who calls for dealing with this threat with anything more than a law enforcement approach is going too far...

16 pat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:33:40am

Meanwhile, at the State Department, it's best analysts have come to the conclusion that Mahmoud is just kidding.

17 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:33:43am

The shadow is back.

We need leaders able to free the world from this new presence of the beast.

/apologies to animals, "beast" is the technical term of the Tradition we must use to understand each other.

18 ibrodsky  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:34:29am

Mr. Ahmadinejad is living proof that Islam is evil.

Across the Muslim world, millions of people spend more time thinking about jihad-genocide against Israel and the Jews than developing their own economies.

/CAIR is living proof that there is a large and well-organized terrorist lobby operating right here in the United States.

19 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:35:34am

#16 Pat

Meanwhile, at the State Department, its best analysts have come to the conclusion that Mahmoud is just kidding.

They probably did.

20 pegcity  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:36:12am

im sick of this fucking asshole, yeah moozies just ignore all the public hangings, wife beatings, genital mutilations and other fun islamo stuff and concentrate on a tiny country full of Jews.

Can we please speed up production on anti matter weapons, id like to open a blackhole on Iran.

21 TimK  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:37:29am

The entire Muslim world is totally incapable of projecting military power outside of their own major cities. So of course this guy is just making noise. The Arab world has tried to take on Israel before and has failed miserably. Of course Muslim's inabilities to do much of anything, despite having almost unlimited funding via oil sales, can be blamed on the Jews.

22 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:39:09am

Yep, the moral degradation, tyranny, economic regression, mental illness, perversion and general ugliness of the Islamic world are all due to the existence of Israel.

Nice to have someone to blame for being losers, isn't it, fellas?

23 Beagle  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:40:34am

I can't believe the entire world is going up in smoke at the same time and half the "loyal" opposition is in denial so deep they spin up nutty theories about a building collapse, after watching it collapse. I've seen controlled demolitions, whole reels of them on TV. When the charges go off you can see the, eh, PUFF!

Kim Jong Il is shooting actual missiles at us. Ahmadinejad is openly discussing genocide. Saudi Arabia is talking about "human rights." Yeah, it's hard to believe people who constantly talk about "martyrdom" and act on that talk actually carried out the attack they said they would.

/Dogs and cats, LIVING TOGETHER! Madness on stilts, I tell you.

24 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:40:39am

Roll back islam !

Long live Zoroastrian Persia !

25 BoghRD  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:42:04am

So ends the Militant Islamic hope for Asymmetrical Warfare...

What a statesman he is for our cause...

Too dumb to shut up till he gets the master weapon... Too dumb to shut up till the wobblies in the West stand down... Too dumb to shut up when other Arab nations view him as a pariah...

He is one of our secret weapons...

On to empire!

26 Abu Maven  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:42:48am

testing

27 ibrodsky  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:43:27am

21 TimK

The entire Muslim world is totally incapable of projecting military power outside of their own major cities. So of course this guy is just making noise. The Arab world has tried to take on Israel before and has failed miserably. Of course Muslim's inabilities to do much of anything, despite having almost unlimited funding via oil sales, can be blamed on the Jews.

A philosopher once said: "A young man knows the rules; an old man knows the exceptions."

Muslims have been trying to destroy Israel for more than 50 years. Don't think that just because they have failed repeatedly that they won't eventually succeed. When it comes to pursuit of their evil aims, they have unlimited patience.

Plus, Iran knows that it would just take two or three nukes to eliminate Israel. As others have suggested, the nukes could be delivered via speed boats.

If we let Iran develop nukes, as I'm afraid we will, they will surely share them with other states and terrorist groups.

28 leftout  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:44:53am

Knowing the insane mentally of Islam and its Jihad to convert or kill all non-Muslims we know what to expect from Muslims fanatics, but how do we explain Western Dhimmies and useful idiots who seem to be aiding their own demise by not standing up to Islamofascism as expressed by Ahmadinejad?

I'm still thinking of the 7/7 thread in which Londoners blame themselves for not being nice enough and tolerant of enough of the Muslims who are out to kill them.

29 BenZacharia  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:46:02am

26 Abu

F+

30 12th Imam(hidden)  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:46:33am

#14 E2M

What's the problem? IAF preventing you from flying kites?


Last year I went to Iraq Palestine.



Before Team America Israel showed up,
it was a happy place.



They had flowery meadows
and rainbow skies



and rivers made of chocolate,
where the children danced



and laughed and played
with gumdrop smiles.

31 Orbit Rain  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:48:44am
it will not be long before this intense fury will lead to a huge explosion

Mahmoud, you will get to see an explosion up close and personal, but you will only be able to enjoy it for a few milliseconds.

32 leftout  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:50:21am
#24 Poitiers-Lepanto 7/8/2006 09:40AM PDT

Roll back islam !

Long live Zoroastrian Persia


Actually having studied Zoroastrianism, I think it's one of history's great tragedies that Islam has virtually wiped this ancient religion off the face of the earth.
Iran and the world would be far better served if it was still the major religion of Iran.

33 greenmamba  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:50:48am

Today's David Warren article in the Ottawa Citizen. They titled it:

Waiting for Armageddon

I have written before about the uselessness of diplomacy in dealing with such as Pyongyang, or Tehran, or Ramallah. Attempts to buy them off with aid and other assuagements only buys time -- for them.
34 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:50:51am

Gee - I remember very well the last two times they tried that. So I do hope they give it another go. Israel will have the land area of France, at least.

35 ibrodsky  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:51:05am

#28 leftout

I'm still thinking of the 7/7 thread in which Londoners blame themselves for not being nice enough and tolerant of enough of the Muslims who are out to kill them.

There were plenty of people in the US who admired and even supported Hitler before we entered WW II.

I take it as a given that there will always be people in the West who either sympathize with Islam's evil goals or think they can buy protection for themselves with appeasement.

The rest of us just have to do our best to limit the influence of the traitors and appeasers and keep on fighting.

36 leftout  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:54:12am

#35 ibrodsky 7/8/2006 09:51AM PDT
Yes, you're completely right about that.
Still, It's troubling that so many can be so thoroughly mislead when it counts for so much to get it right.

37 Earth2moonbat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:55:28am

Mike C.

This is totally off-topic, but have you heard anything about this?

38 ibrodsky  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:55:48am

#33 greenmamba

Today's David Warren article in the Ottawa Citizen. They titled it:

Waiting for Armageddon

Great essay.

39 ibrodsky  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:57:35am

#37 Earth2moonbat

Mike C.

This is totally off-topic, but have you heard anything about this?

Is that the same process Syncrude uses in northern Alberta?

40 Peacekeeper  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:58:07am

Meanwhile in Hell:
Hitler (puts down newspaper): Ach du lieber! I kant beief this! The Iranian ist stealing all my best material! Nobody even notices! How lang bevore he invades Poland? All my best work ist ripped off, not even a hat tip. No vonder diss is callt Hell.

41 Liz Ard  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:58:16am
“Nations in the region will be more furious every day, and it will not be long before this intense fury will lead to a huge explosion,” Ahmadinejad said.

Now, now, Mahmoud, don't make your intentions too transparent.

42 ibrodsky  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:01:06am

#40 Peacekeeper

They have newspapers in Hell?

Let me guess... The New York Times?

43 Earth2moonbat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:01:10am

#39 ibrodsky

No. This is for getting oil from shale. They have a lot in Israel, but the US has several hundred year's worth. I'm a little skeptical that there's something that they're not telling us, but if the claims are true, that could be huge.

44 Peacekeeper  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:02:33am

Asbestos edition

45 Obi-wan  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:05:27am

Bring it on, MoFo.

You will get your explosion--up close and (very) personal.

46 ibrodsky  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:06:23am

#43 Earth2moonbat

Syncrude extracts oil from bitumen.

The processes may be similar in one respect: they "mine" oil rather than drill for it. The more or less solid material is then taken somewhere to be processed.

It sounds like extracting oil from shale is a bit more involved...

47 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:07:00am

#32 LeftOut

I think it's one of history's great tragedies that Islam has virtually wiped this ancient religion off the face of the earth.

Indeed.

Some of them are still there anyway.

Zoroastrian Persia, Christian North Africa, Buddhist Center Asia, Hindu West India (Pakistan) and East India (BanglaDesh)...the list of the historical tragedies is long...and getting longer by the day, thanks to the jihadi assassins...

they are very proud of spreading the shadow...

48 ibrodsky  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:07:52am

44 Peacekeeper

Asbestos edition

I'm surprised Al-Gore isn't pushing for stricter regulations in Hell. Asbestos is bad for your lungs.

49 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:07:59am

# 37 E2m

No, I had not heard of that. Very interesting. Thanks !

50 zulubaby  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:08:31am
51 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:08:53am

The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime

No, the basic problem in the Islamic world is 60 generations of cousin marriage.

52 Terp Mole  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:09:55am

Someone tell me again, how Libya's "rehabilitation" is supposed to impress Ahmadinejad?

NYTimes: Sanctions Lifted, Libya Withholds Final Lockerbie Payment

Libya is holding off on making hundreds of millions of dollars in payments to the families of Americans killed in the bombing of a Pan Am jumbo jet over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988. The payment appears to have fallen victim, at least for now, to a Libyan desire for a prominent public acknowledgment of its rehabilitation, according to people expert in the dispute.
-----
According to a government official involved in foreign policy, who would not speak for attribution because of the sensitivity of the topic, Libya was seeking an invitation to the White House for Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, the Libyan leader, or at least a visit to Tripoli by an important American official.

State Department officials have said that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has been discussing making such a visit, but that she had decided not to do so, yet.
-----
James P. Kreindler, a lawyer who specializes in aviation disasters, said that only the Lockerbie escrow agreement had lapsed, not the underlying compensation agreement. And action by the United States government was delayed, he said, because the Libyans had plotted in 2004 to kill Abdullah, then the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.

"Libya can't get a windfall for that," he said, contending that the Libyans would benefit from their plot against the Saudi prince if that kept them on the terrorism list long enough to save them from making the last payment to the Lockerbie victims.

He added: "They are looking for a lot of public recognition for their new role in the world. I'm sure our settlement is a piece of that puzzle."

1) "The payments" haven't "fallen victim"-- the victims' families have.

2) Kaddafi at the White House?! Has America learn nothing from Arafat soiling the White House lawn?

3) Kreindler has exposed Kaddafi's cynical motivation for financing Alamoudi's assasination plot.

Terrorism pays- handsomely.
(Are you listening, Iran?)

53 crash_test_dhimmi  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:10:35am

Where does CAIR stand amidst all these calls for Jewish genocide? I thought they cared about human rights, for all humans. Or are some more human than others? or more muslim than others? clowns.

54 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:12:49am

#13 leftout

Why didn't the Arabs except the 1948 UN partition way back when. Then we wouldn't have today's problems. Could it be the Arabs are the problem because the did not and will except Israel's right to exists as set out by the UN.

Many Arabs, led by the Nashashibi clan, did want to accept the partition. The Husseini clan--led by Haj Amin alHusseini the uncle of Yasser Arafat and grandfather to Faisal Husseini--wiped out the Nashashibi clan.

55 Midwestprof  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:13:23am
The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime...

No, halfwit "The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime Islamic world...",

56 Earth2moonbat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:14:06am

#46 ibrodsky

"Syncrude" can mean several things, but usually it means the "Fischer-Tropsch" process that makes synthetic crude from coal. It's expensive, but well-proven, having been developed by the Nazis, and used for years in South Africa.

Shale is hard rock with bazillions of tiny droplets of otherwise good usable crude oil embedded in it. The trick is how to get the oil out of the rock while being cost-competitive.

Unfortunately, press releases like in the link don't give much detail, such as if they mine the rock, or extract it in-situ, and how finely pulverized it has to be, and what do you with the bitumen tar after it's absorbed the crude, etc, etc. This may be something, or it may be nothing, and there's no way to tell from that article.

57 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:14:36am

You know folks, the Iranians were a lot more fun when they were Mithraic.

58 W-lover  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:15:03am
I'm surprised Al-Gore isn't pushing for stricter regulations in Hell. Asbestos is bad for your lungs.

That's because for them, there is no Hell.

59 storagemanager  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:16:18am
“Nations in the region will be more furious every day, and it will not be long before this intense fury will lead to a huge explosion,” Ahmadinejad said.


Gee....Some of us said this would happen.

60 Nordish12  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:16:27am

Ahmadinejad couldn't be any clearer on the matter. We'll ignore him at our own peril.

61 Beagle  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:16:46am

#57 TQC

Yeah, or looking at the stars, fighting the Greeks, worshipping other rocks, just about anything.

62 ibrodsky  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:19:10am

56 Earth2moonbat

The Syncrude I referred to is a company that mines oil in northern Alberta. I've been up there. An amazing operation involving the hugest shovels and dump trucks imaginable.

Another company, Suncor, is a competing operator.

I just read that they have gotten the cost of extracting oil from oil sands down to $15 per barrel. That compares nicely to the $27 per barrel it costs to extract oil from shale.

Still, with oil around $70 per barrel, the process makes sense for Israel--a country with huge oil shale deposits. I read they have 5 billion barrels worth.

63 pat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:19:19am

Poitiers-Lepanto 7/8/2006 10:07AM PDT

#32 LeftOut

Ditto on the Zorasters. *th Century Persia was Zorastrian and Christian. Normal religions. Bahais are also normal. Now the past has been destroyed as thourouly as the Muslims defaced the pyramids.

64 storagemanager  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:20:23am

He is making partners....soon the Snake will Strike.....Time to Wake up....

65 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:21:20am
“The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime, and the Islamic world and the region must mobilise to remove this problem,”

“The basic problem in the Infidel Islamic world is the existence of the Islamic Zionist regimes, and the Islamic Infidel world and the west region must mobilise to remove this problem,”

There, fix that for you MyDinnerAfterJihad.

Welcome to WWIII (unofficially of course since the West still does not believe Islam wants to eliminate (Infidels) us all).

Qur’an:47:4 “When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.”

No cherry picking required, read the Qur'an and know evil and know your enemy.

66 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:21:36am

#61 Beagle

Yeah. What is it about moon worship that turns people crazy?

67 pat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:21:44am

#58 w lover

"I'm surprised Al-Gore isn't pushing for stricter regulations in Hell. Asbestos is bad for your lungs.

That's because for them, there is no Hell. "


To the left America is hell.

68 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:26:53am

In keeping with the saying, I doubt we've anything yet.

Coincidently, the Mullah's no longer feel keeping their foreign currency assets in European banks is in the interest of the Iran.

You know..transfers of funds even the possibility of frozen assets. Those pesky details that had previously caught some by surprise.

69 Obi-wan  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:27:19am

A world wide "religious" war is bearing down on us. The sooner it starts, the fewer people will die.

There is no god named allah
Mohammoud was a pedophile
Where allah goes, blood flows.

/Obi-wan has an amazing talent for stating the obvious.

70 pediomelum  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:28:11am

#20 pegcity

Can we please speed up production on anti matter weapons, id like to open a blackhole on Iran.

We have to remember that a large percentage of Iranians would like nothing better than to be rid of the muslim scum ruling Iran. Admittedly, this large percentage may only be a large minorties, but still. While the death of a few of our friends in Iran may be an unfortunate necessity to rid the world of mullahs, it is evil to wish all these people of good will dead. I fear that leftist inaction in the face of terror makes it more likely that our friends will be killed off with the scum. This is deeply tragic. In the meanwhile, let's remember that the Iranian people are not our enemy.

71 W-lover  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:28:24am
To the left America is hell.

Toucheé

72 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:28:57am

#68 aboo Hoo Hoo

You know..transfers of funds even the possibility of frozen assets. Those pesky details that had previously caught some by surprise.

What are you saying?

/Bill Keller

73 W-lover  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:29:29am

Or Touché rather

74 Earth2moonbat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:29:38am

#62 ibrodsky

As long as crude stays above, say $50/bbl, they'll be able to do both. The other question is the size of the capital investment needed. I've had this discussion before, and don't want to go there again, but bottom line, how much of this flies has more to do with what they think the price of crude will be in 5 or 10 years, than what it is now.

75 Midwestprof  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:30:39am

#37
#39
#43
#46
#56 (Did I forget any?)

The oil shale extraction process is quite different from the tar sands process used in the Ft. McMurry region of Alberta. The tar sands in Canada are quite soft, and the sand units contain the oil tar in the pore spaces. It's a matter of using high-volume bulk surface mining techniques such as Area Mining (aka "Strip Mining") similar to what's used in the large open cut surface coal mines of the Western U.S. to extract the oil-bearing strata, then transport the oil-bearing material to a process facility where the oil is removed from the sand. The sand is then back-filled into the mined out area and the mined land is reclaimed. This is the short version of the process. This is a low-cost (relatively speaking) mining technique.

The shales of the Western U.S. (around Parachute, Col), on the other hand, are much harder. They will require drilling and blasting to break up the oil-bearing strata. The shale will also require crushing and, possibly, fine grinding to liberate the oil from the matrix. This is quite a bit more costly than the process to remove the oil from the tar sands of Alberta. The cost of oil will have to remain high in order to justify mining the shale units of Colorado and Wyoming (and elsewhere in the world).

The U.S. has substantial resources of oil shale. Exxon had a mega-project to mine the oil shales in the 70s, but when the price of oil crashed (as so often the price of mineral commodities does), they abandoned the project.

76 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:31:10am

#70 pediomelum

Absolutely right. The Iranian people are not our enemies. Two-thirds of them weren't even alive when the "Islamic Revolution" took place, and most of those want the mullahs gone in a major way. Iran is wracked with unrest, the news of which the media suppresses, by and large.

The mullahs are the enemy, and they're the ones who need strung up.

77 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:31:31am
“The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime, and the Islamic world and the region must mobilise to remove this problem,” the president said in a speech to regional officials.

remove this problem,
He meant to say exterminate but this was a meeting of some of the most brilliant minds in the middle east.

78 big L  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:33:23am

You could take out Israel and substitute in the USA. "Peace dividend"- Hah. We live in dangerous times.
I'd be nervous if I lived in Israel.The Israelis should definitely cut off the water service to gaza and the atms and the power and withdraw using the Shekel there. Also wtertratment plants if any and sewer or trash pick-up or any public cummusnity services districts.

79 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:34:03am

“Today there is a strong will... to remove the Zionist regime and implement a legal Palestinian regime all over Palestine.
Next year Jerusalem.

80 Kirly  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:34:33am

OT:

Fox News just reported that someone threw a pigs head into a mosque during prayers! I didn't catch where or exactly when though. They also said the person who did it said he did it as a joke.

81 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:34:42am

#40 Peacekeeper,

Hilter actually stole much of his material from Islam. Hilter was a Mohammad clone!

82 BenZacharia  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:39:02am

80 Kirly

Last week

83 BenZacharia  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:40:46am

80 Kirly

Last week

Maine, frozen pigs head, unless it has become the newest frat prank 'bowling for jihadis'.

84 Kirly  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:41:08am

#82 Ben Zacharia

Fox is falling behind! If I'd had the time to read all the threads I probably would have heard about it here last week.

85 Sharku  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:46:48am

But now that the story is reaching the broadcast media the world wide seethe should be commencing very soon.

86 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:50:10am

Hamas: We 'have defeated the Israeli army'

Hamas's military wing, Izzadin al-Kassam announced in a press conference in Beit Lahiya Saturday evening that its fighters "have defeated the Israeli army."

IDF troops began pulling out of northern Gaza late Friday night and Saturday morning following military operations there.

In a later broadcast, they stated the beat the Mediterrean(sp) ocean due to the tide going out.

87 friarstale  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:51:45am

I keep saying: re-establish the Caliphate. Unite the Islamic countries under one government. Now let's see, where will it be? Saudi Arabia? Iran? Egypt? Pakistan?

Let them fight it out, decide among themselves, then formally declare war against Israel, and/or the US, and/or "The West" and we'll get down to it. Oh, naturally, all Muslims should/must return to that Caliphate, from Europe, Canada, Australia, the US, etc before the war is declared.

Let's go, Ahmadamnjinn, let's roll.

88 Walter E. Wallis  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:55:27am

It is long past time to limit the mobility of Islamists until Islam cleans house and becomes suitable for mixed company.

89 alkmyst  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:56:25am

Ahhh... the iranians...

20:04 Iranian diplomat in Stockholm threatens embassy colleagues with gun (Reuters)

90 Fiery Red XIII  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:57:39am

#50 Zulubaby, but Isreal is pulling out, Damn this world is screwed.

Red

91 abu_garcia  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:58:02am

#56, E2M

Shale is hard rock with bazillions of tiny droplets of otherwise good usable crude oil embedded in it. The trick is how to get the oil out of the rock while being cost-competitive.

The stuff in shale is kerogen, more like a wax than a crude oil. It has to hydrogenated, which is done under heat and pressure, to convert it to an oil. This process claims that by adding the crude bottoms (sort of a sludge) they can reduce the pressures needed for a substantial portion of the kerogen. It remains to be seen.

Shale oil so far has always had an EROEI* of greater than one, which means it's not doable because you use more energy than you get.

*energy returned on energy invested
92 Enraged_Badger  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:58:10am

How long before some moonbat claims that this isn't a declaration of war but instead merely a clever use of Persian rhetoric?

93 alkmyst  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 8:58:52am

Ahhh, the Fraudis...

19:02 Seven Saudi terror suspects escape from prison in Riyadh (AP)

94 Fiery Red XIII  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:00:37am

And kirly/Ben #'s 82-84, what charges are being brought up? I'm sure it'll be a hate crime, and they'll get YEARS in hardtime prison.

Red

95 amyc  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:02:27am

25 BoghRD the problem is that these other governments don't view him as a pariah. They chose to come to his party, right?

Bring it on fellas. Really. Bring it on.

96 amyc  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:05:09am

66 I know it was tongue in cheek, but I don't think it's moon worship that warps them. The worship of Satan however....

97 zulubaby  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:08:26am

Fiery Red XIII (#90)

What do you mean?

98 W-lover  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:10:12am

How long before some moonbat claims that this isn't a declaration of war but instead merely a clever use of Persian Rovian rhetoric?

Any time now...

99 zulubaby  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:10:15am
101 Earth2moonbat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:13:27am

#100 Kirly

That was just somebody who was confused, and saw a frozen pig's head, with the wide nostrils, and thought it was a bowling ball, and saw all the muzzles praying with their butts in the air, and thought they were bowling pins, and assummed the mosque was a bowling alley, and....

102 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:14:04am

# 91 abu_garcia

Shell has a new in-situ extraction process they're preparing to test. Time will tell.

103 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:14:47am

“Nations in the region will be more furious every day, and it will not be long before this intense fury will lead to a huge explosion,” Ahmadinejad said.


Nuke them first.

104 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:15:24am
105 Ignorant Mensan  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:16:57am

SUPRIZE! SUPRIZE! SUPRIZE!


/Gomer awakes from 60+ year nap rubbing eyes

106 abu_garcia  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:18:40am

#102 Mike C.

Yes, from what I understand they plan to fragment it and set it afire much like what has been suggested for the Athabasca sands at depth. Some have even suggested using nukes.

Does the Shell process propose to inject anything or just collect gases from partial combustion?

107 groinpullerredux  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:20:56am

#86 krager

at the risk of appearing a pedant there are no tides in the mediterranean sea...but i quite see your point nonetheless...

108 goodbye_natalie  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:21:05am

Just like Chavez, we've chosen to ignore this little dweeb. While it may seem to make sense to Americans to ignore tyrannical wannabees because they're nothing more than a pimple on our hind quarters, in much of the world, this does nothing but empower the tyrants in the eyes of their followers. It only took 19 MoFo's and our languid attitude to have 3,000 Americans killed.

How much longer we got to wait to pull a little Quaddafi on this thug to send him a message? I'll bet $10 to a donut that you won't hear a peep from this clown for a year if you can get one of those bunker busters within his general proximity. Maybe get lucky and remove him all together? Take out a couple of his family members and friends as a reminder to sleep with one eye open.

109 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:22:21am

# 106 abu_garcia

No, not exactly. A thermal extraction process, yes, but surounded by an in-situ ice wall (really!) to seal off GW contamination. Nukes were discarded (after testing) in the 70s.

110 abu_garcia  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:25:48am

#109 Mike C.

Nukes were discarded (after testing) in the 70s.

On a petro board I read somebody posted something where it had been brought back up. Probably didn't go far.

111 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:26:08am

# 107 groinpullerredux

I beg your pardon ?

112 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:28:07am

#88 Walter E. Wallis,

It is long past time to limit the mobility of Islamists until Islam cleans house and becomes suitable for mixed company.

Sorry, but Islam cannot be reformed it is NOT possible. Not by anyone (Muslim or Non-Muslim) who has read the Qur'an, Ahadith and The Life of Mohammad (Sirat Rasul Allah).

Bukhari:Volume 9 Book 88 Number 174
“I heard the Prophet saying, ‘Islam cannot change!’”

113 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:28:56am

# 110 abu_garcia

No longer seriously considered. Nobody wants to make a huge investment, and then have to wait hundreds or thousands of years for the product to be "cool" enough to use. Cash-flow discounting Ahkbar !

114 songbird  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:35:28am

Thrills......so now WE are responsible for their bad behavior?

Mad Mahmoud (may pig grease be upon him) and his ilk are responsible for their own violence. Let them wreak havoc and Mahmoody may find his capital city a glass bowl.

115 EE  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:35:43am

Madman Ahmadinejad wants the Europeans to think that if he has the nuclear jihad option, he would only exercise that nuclear jihad option against Israel. That's done deliberately to give the Euros a false sense of security. But Ahmadinejad, who may be crazy but is not stupid -- on TV it was reported that he has a PhD in Civil Engineering -- knows that threatening Europe will give a lot more benefits than anything he can get by threatening Israel. When Ahmadinejad gets the nuclear option, he may use it to wipe out Israel, but then he will threaten Europe and the rest of the region that can be reached by his ballistic missiles. It was also reported on TV that Iran has financed the North Korean development of ICBMs. So Ahmadinejad will be using ICBMs of North Korean development, and they will have quite a large area that they can target. That will include Europe and a lot more. A nuclear jihad option for Iran will not only be a problem for Israel. The Euros need to understand that.

The Hojjatieh ideology requires that chaos must be brought about in the world before the man in the well can come out and bring Islamic dominance over the world. The Euros should take note of that, and not be sidetracked by the thought that Iran will merely take out Israel.

116 Sheldon  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:35:52am

from drudge "California Man Revealed as al Qaeda Leader..."
Say it didn't happen.

117 leftout  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:38:37am

#54 MandyManners 7/8/2006 10:12AM PDT

Many Arabs, led by the Nashashibi clan, did want to accept the partition. The Husseini clan--led by Haj Amin alHusseini the uncle of Yasser Arafat and grandfather to Faisal Husseini--wiped out the Nashashibi clan.


Thanks for the info Mandy. I guess it further proves my point: The conflict is their fault, not Israel's.

118 TotallySirius  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:39:38am

Imagine the outrage if the headline were reversed....."Ohlmert:Israel must act to eliminate Muslims"

I think this new headline might come true if TheMadDinnerjacket doesn't stop the genocide talk.

119 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:43:17am

A link to the story about the Saudi jailbreak.

They escaped a few days ago. So, according to Rolling Stone's reasoning, they're no threat, since the news wasn't shouted from the rooftops immediately.

120 TotallySirius  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:43:51am

The rest of the world has to come to realize that these anti-social thugs won't go away by saying please and asking nicely,UN sanctions have no teeth and "strongly worded letters" only make good toilet paper.

The only thing they understand is the overwhelming use of force.

121 leftout  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:44:11am
Fox News just reported that someone threw a pigs head into a mosque during prayers! I didn't catch where or exactly when though. They also said the person who did it said he did it as a joke.


They show nothing but respect for others, so it comes as a shock that anyone would show disrespect to them./sarc.
If proven to be true, this will cause a bigger uproar with liberals, tut tuting and clucking their tongues, than the slaughter of three hundred children in Beslan.

122 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:49:27am

#116 Sheldon

From your "link":

On today's tape, Gadahn is bearded, wearing a turban.

He denounces U.S. soldiers in Iraq and their alleged murder and rapes of Iraqi citizens.

"Who are the real terrorists?" Gadahn asks.

When referring to the alleged atrocities committed by U.S. Marines in Iraq, Gadahn also says, "It's hard to imagine that any compassionate person could see pictures...and not want to go on a shooting spree at the Marines' housing facilities at Camp Pendleton."

Murtha's teachings are spreading, al qaeda is learning.

123 Fiery Red XIII  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:49:42am

#97 zulubaby

The link said isreal was pulling its troops from gaza, Hamas even had ID cards left behind.

Red

124 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:50:56am

Well Mr. Ahmadinejad you certainly have mouth on you.

Shame you are wrong about so many things. The first thing is you don't understand squat about democracies and the west. You only knew Jimmy Carter, a weak and incompetent fool. Mr. Bush is made of ar different stuff and he is going to break you in half like a twig.

As for Israel; Israel is reparations for 1400 years of Islamic anti-semetism and oppression.

Israel is not going anywhere, Israel lives and will continue to live in the land of her heritage. I suggest you try doing anything about it. Israel alone can punch your worthless ticket whenever it chooses.

The last days of your evil despotic regime are ticking down, the only explosion I see coming is on the streets of Tehran, for you and the swine that make up your government, it will be fatal.

KUSH BUSH! [where is Bush?]

125 republic  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:55:05am

Mr. Amhadinnerjacket,

You, and your ilk, will be toast!

You will NEVER defeat Israel, you wacko kooks!

126 david e  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:55:58am

Actually in the US and Alberta we have at least three vast sources of oil: oil shale, oil sand, and coal. I know that one of the processes that has been looked at for oil extraction in oil shale is displacing the oil with water and gathering the displaced oil up. I do not know if this is the process the article is talking about. Oil sand is mined and essentially washed. I know nothing of the syncrude save, as previously mentioned, the Nazi's developed and deployed it.

127 TotallySirius  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:59:34am

OT

Another questionable Israeli artillery kills pali child story from pMSNBC.com

Notice the headline "Artillery shell explodes in house..." then they state that IDF weren't firing artillery at the time.

Makes me wonder,is this is another recycling accident?

128 maliki  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:04:41am

I'd like to see the US "test" a nuke in any unpopulated area in the region. Wake up call to all.

129 Thor-Zone  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:06:25am

Isn’t amazing how selective history is used by these asshats? Israel existed long before any of the following:

Lebanon
Jordan
Syria
Islam
Iran
etc

The kingdom of Israel exted in roughly the same place as it is today, thousands of years before Islam existed. There is not full agreement, but most historians think that the date of Exodus was around 1100 – 1200 BC. Mohamed was born in 570 AD and died in 632 AD. Apparently the Muslims are actually the Johnny Come Latelys!

These dopes really need to take a bereath and relax. If they want a fight, I guess we will have to fight them. It is not something that I look forward to, but we will die one by one unless we start to face that music.

Remember it takes more than one party to have peace. You can't just want it by yourself without the agreement of the other parties to the dispute.

You can give and give and give to appease these fools and at the end of the day you will still have to fight them.

Even fighting them won’t work unless you kill them. Sad but true.

130 TotallySirius  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:08:07am

The forces of evil have comspired for over five thousand years to destroy Judeaism and haven't succeeded yet.

What makes this asshat think he will succeed where even the mightiest of his death-cult have failed?

131 republic  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:13:56am

One of the things that bothers me the most, is that Amhadinnerjacket spews his vile, mongrel, vermin tongue, IN PUBLIC, for ALL the world to hear, and notice,, about wanting to "wipe out" the Zionist regime, and no one in the entire world objects, disputes, or condemns!

What if President Bush stated in public, that the West needs to "wipe Iran off the map"?

I'll bet there'd be screams around the globe!

In fact, the world SCREAMS when Iran, or N. Korea, for that matter, is threatened with sanctions.

If things are left to continue the way they are, it is going to be Israel, and the USA against the entire world!

I know this for a fact, at least Israel will be left standing, and alive, when all is said and done.

132 keelie  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:17:37am

#24 - Poitiers-Lepanto

I've been saying this for years now: All those who were forced, or whose ancestors were forced, to convert to Islam, should now consider "moving back" (actually forward) to their original religions.

Unfortunately the converted ones seem to be more fanatical than the originals. The "Stockholm Syndrome"?

133 12th Imam(hidden)  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:18:38am

#127 Totally Sirius

"Artillery shell explodes in house..."

Looks like a "souvenier accident."

134 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:18:51am
Another questionable Israeli artillery kills pali child story from pMSNBC.com

Notice the headline "Artillery shell explodes in house..." then they state that IDF weren't firing artillery at the time.

Makes me wonder,is this is another recycling accident?

Why is there not a single scratch on the furniture, not one!

MSNBC you twits this is completely staged.

135 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:19:37am

# 131 republic

I know this for a fact, at least Israel will be left standing, and alive, when all is said and done.

With all due respect to you, all out Jewish posters, and our Israeli posters, I rather hope the US might just survive as well.

136 humanity  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:20:08am

why not we must unite to eliminate islam... due to which everyone is suffering...

lets join our hands... they want to spread word of "Prophet of dooms", lets spread the words of "prophet of dooms"... no ear should be left to hear the truth...

137 Beagle  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:21:07am

Technically, if I filled up my bathtub it would have tides from the pull of the moon, right? Lakes have tides also, IIRC. Small tides, usually almost imperceptible, but tides.

138 zulubaby  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:26:04am

Fiery Red XIII (#123)

Israel is going nowhere. Hamas can tell the media whatever it wants, Israel repositioning her tanks does not mean she's leaving Hamas alone. If you see what I'm saying.

139 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:26:05am

#131 republic,

If things are left to continue the way they are, it is going to be Israel, and the USA against the entire world!

Don't worry the USA and Israel can beat the entire world even if the moonbats don't take part. If we took the gloves off we could certainly pound the entire world into the stone age but that is not who we are (at the moment).

Just push us into the corner and they will be sorry then.

140 zulubaby  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:28:17am
141 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:31:31am

RE #139

I am not of course excluding our friends and we do have a few.

You are with us or against us there will be no neutrality in WWIII.

142 storagemanager  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:43:22am

Anita Vogle of Fox News on the protest in Mexico just compared that to Bush-Gore 2000...Fox is now a moonbat station as far I see.

143 scooter  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:49:34am

#131 republic

If things are left to continue the way they are, it is going to be Israel, and the USA against the entire world!

From VDH:

July 06, 2006
The Israel EnigmaBy Victor Davis Hanson

What explains most of the world's dislike of Israel?

(many snips)

"Finally, as we know from our own southern border, anytime a successful Westernized nation is adjacent to a poorer Third World country, primordial emotions like honor and envy cloud reason. Rather than concede that Western-style democracy, capitalism, personal freedom and the rule of law explain why a prosperous, stable Israel arose from scrub and rock, Palestinians fixate on "Zionism," "colonialism" vaand "racism."

No wonder they do. Otherwise they would have to grapple with intractable and indigenous tribalism, gender apartheid, militias and religious fundamentalism, while building an open society based on the rule of law.
In some ways, Israel's values and success most resemble the United States.

And that raises a final question: Is Israel hated by the world for supporting us - or are we hated for supporting it? Or is it both?

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]


Reading reading comments on: [Link: commentisfree.guardian.co.uk...] is interesting. Dull and deplorable at times, yet instructive.

History, it seems, is always revisionist and self-serving. What concerns me is how the West intends to proceed, and that will be an individual decision that is made by every civilian. We cannot expect the military to fight all the battles.

144 sngnsgt  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:50:06am

O.T.

Be sure to help Michelle Malkin by contributing to the Moonbat Miracle Network to help send Saint Cindy home to the man she loves.

145 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:52:00am

Poor Carl in Jerusalem!

Even now he is looking out his window as a horde of Islamists in black, white and green waiving swords, RPGs, Kalshnikovs and belt bombs must be rolling past all opposition destroying entire Israeli divisions like butter, cutting through the Golani Brigade just like Schwartzkopf went throught the the Iraqi Republican Guards!

Carl. I am so worried about you. As soon as youc, please post and let us know how you are dealing with the "utter defeat" of the Israeli Army!

West Bank Mama and Ploome, you too. All of us at LGF are worried about this terrible development.

At least the ones who aren't laughing hysterically at the very idea! But post anyway, we always like to hear from you.

146 Luigi  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:55:26am
“The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime.."


The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of antisemitism. They ain't going nowhere until they let go of their hatreds.

Percent of the world population that is Jewish -- 0.2%.

It is impossible that Jews are the cause of any problems that the Muslims suffer from. And the Muslims ain't going nowhere until they come to terms with that.

147 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:55:52am

# 145 A G

Uh, was that sarcasm er sumtin, dude ?

148 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:56:24am

#142 Storagemanager,

Anita Vogle of Fox News on the protest in Mexico just compared that to Bush-Gore 2000...Fox is now a moonbat station as far I see.

The vote different is only 244,000 out of 41 million the result is significantly much closer than the Bush-Gore results.

The primary difference is that the liberal will not admit defeat.

Fox News is not a moonbat station!

149 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:56:25am

No. 137 Beagle

Even the solid earth has tides and so does the air; a sufficiently sensitive barometer can measure the air tides.

150 sngnsgt  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 10:57:58am

For those who didn't catch it last night "Joe Wilson" has been purged from the LGF troll pool.

/who cares?

151 groinpullerredux  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:01:12am

an inch....maybe an inch of tide in the mediterranean....gee mike...i'm a jolly jack tar....I KNOW these things......but look for yourself mike.....how are 99999.000.000.000.000.000 gallons of water going to ebb out and flood into through the narrow strait of gibraltar 4 times a day ?....it would look like niagara falls and yet i can assure you it doesn't...trust me mike or i'll have you clapped in bilboes and embrigged....i'm starting to smell mutiny here.

152 storagemanager  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:01:37am

on top on everything...it looks like Hugo may start crap in Mexico....tens of thousands massing in the streets and could get ugly...Fox News.

153 pegcity  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:04:17am

so what do the islamo asshats have in mind when in 60 years the oil runs out, and they have approximatley 0 infestructure and a population that can do only one thing, recite the koran.

Things suck now but look at it this way, eventually they will be back living in tents while their infidel made shiny dickextenders rot.

We will have finally moved onto some other energy supply and that will be that.

154 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:07:49am

# 151 groinpullerredux

Dude, we can measure tides in ground water tables, and, as has been noted above, in the very air itself. You don't need to be a sailor to know that. Being a mere meteorologist or geoscientist will do.

155 Fran2  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:10:35am

Jokes aside, there is a context to this madness.
[Link: thisongoingwar.blogspot.com...]

156 Earth2moonbat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:14:41am

#151 groinpullerredux

From the Port of Ashkelon (where they're firing rockets form Gaza:

Maximum variation between high and low water is approx. 4 feet. The average variation is approx. 2 feet. There is no tidal information for Ashkelon, neither in U.S.H.O. nor in British Admiralty Tide Tables, but data for the Port of Tel-Aviv (a secondary Port to Gibraltar) can serve as a guideline. Currents are generally in a northerly direction but may change in the event of northerly storms.

4 ft isn't much by ocean standards, but it in't insignificant, either.

157 EE  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:16:50am

#146 Luigi
Excellent post.

In a typical pie chart of the followers of the world's religions, the Jews are so few in number that they cannot even be shown on the pie chart.

If you look at a globe of the world, Israel is so tiny that you may not even be able to see it on the globe; yet the Muslim world covers a vast part of the globe, from the Atlantic Ocean to beyond the Persian Gulf.

It's the fact that this tiny spot on the globe is so small that Ahmadinejad salivates at the thought of wiping it off the map by the exercise of nuclear jihad.

158 j-damn  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:19:15am
For those who didn't catch it last night "Joe Wilson" has been purged from the LGF troll pool.

/who cares?

Awwww. Now we only have to lose the drunk weatherman and things will be perfect around here.

159 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:19:50am

#146 Luigi,

Sorry, Islam will never come to terms not even if totally defeated militarily around the world in this century.

If even a remnant is left it will come back to torture the world again and next time we may not be so fortunate.

Islam must be outlawed and no support whatsoever should be given to it if we are to survive in the long run.

Wheat Tree?

Tabari I:299 “Scholars of the nation of our Prophet say, ‘The tree which Allah forbade Adam and his spouse to eat was wheat.’”

Religious?

Bukhari:V7B71N643 “I heard the Prophet saying, ‘If anyone of you dreams something he dislikes, when you get up, blow thrice on your left.’”

We know already!

Qur’an 86:13 “Lo this (Qur’an) is a conclusive Word; it is not a thing for amusement. It is no pleasantry. And it is no joke.”

Good is Bad and Bad is Good (1984 anyone?)

Qur’an:2:216 “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not.”

Pimps are forgiven!

Qur’an 24:34 “Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. [And here’s the freedom-to-pimp card:] But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving.”

Only half for women!

Qur’an 4:11 “Allah directs you in regard of your Children’s (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females…. These are settled portions ordained by Allah.”

160 so.cal.swede  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:20:29am

i'm sick of ahmenajinedad's bs rewordings.. just come out and say it man "I want to nuke those f*n jews to hell"... it's ok, noone will care, not the UN not the US.. noone.

what a word we live in...

161 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:21:46am
#158 j-damn 7/8/2006 01:19PM PDT

For those who didn't catch it last night "Joe Wilson" has been purged from the LGF troll pool.

/who cares?

Awwww. Now we only have to lose the drunk weatherman and things will be perfect around here.

Are you talking about Ed?

162 Buckaroo  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:25:53am

# 158 j

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163 pat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:26:52am

So tell about joewilson. What happened? When I signed off he wasn't causing more than the usual commotion.

164 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:28:46am

jdamn,

have you always been an asshole,
or did you just recently become one?

165 Aviator  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:28:58am

Pat

So tell about joewilson. What happened? When I signed off he wasn't causing more than the usual commotion.

He just posted yet another idiotic link. He got whacked for terminal stupidity. It was a cumulative thing.

166 AMER1CAN  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:29:08am

New Gaza attack kills 6 year-old girl, two others

An artillery shell exploded in a house on the outskirts of Gaza City, killing a 6-year-old girl and two others, hospital officials said, but the Israeli military said it did not fire artillery in that area and denied responsibility.

The little girl was carried inside the hospital, wrapped in a red blanket. The back of her head was sheared open, and her legs dangled lifelessly.

These people watch too many movies!

167 Aviator  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:30:34am

163
Pat

At least there will not be any more of joe's orange stains around here.

168 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:31:31am

163 pat

When I signed off he wasn't causing more than the usual commotion.

His links were stupid.
He was always a low profile,
but i think Charles got fed up with the stupid links.

did I mention stupid links?

169 pat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:32:33am

I guess Joe Wilson will have to back to drinking tea with his Niger buddies.

170 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:34:28am

# 158 j-damn

Now we only have to lose the drunk weatherman and things will be perfect around here.

I beg your pardon ?

171 vermicelli  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:34:31am

there has actually been a sighting of the 12th Imam coming out of the Jamkaran well in iran.... see link

[Link: www.thering-themovie.com...]

172 pat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:34:58am

Joe's links were stupid, frequently proving the opposite of what he posited. I knew an attorney like that. Disbarred.

173 pat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:39:52am

If we got rid of all the drinking posters, I know Hawaii would go silent. Probably Texas too. Realwest would keep late New York on the air, but the South would be limited to the Bible bunch(not that I mind those quys).

174 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:41:53am

#171 vermicelli 7/8/2006 01:34PM PDT

there has actually been a sighting of the 12th Imam

scared me,
and i have been scared by professionals.

i couldnt bear to watch but a few seconds.

175 rockman  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:42:38am

OT but...
Has anyone else here seen the just released movie called "Islam: What the West Needs to Know"? I just returned from seeing it here in Atlanta and it was FANTASTIC. It is essentially a series of interviews with Robert Spencer, Bat Yeor, Walid Shoebat and Serge Trifkovic on the essentials of the Islamist threat, presented in a powerful and compelling way. Most of it will be familiar to those who frequent LGF, Jihad Watch, and other great and mighty blogs or who have bothered to read these authors, but I would encourage all who are interested in such matters to go and see it. The audience broke into spontaneous applause when it was finished. I believe it is in a few theatres in Atlanta, Chicago and perhaps New York. I can't wait for it to be released as a DVD.
Drag your lefty friends to it for it may shatter their multicultural assumtions
and put them on the path to enlightenment...

176 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:44:36am

I'm still waiting for a claim of a dropped sarc tag. Or some other plausible excuse.

177 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:45:28am

#166 AMER1CAN,

New Gaza attack kills 6 year-old girl, two others

I see two more possibilities:

1) A work accident (while assembling a suicide belt or playing with a grenade or some other ordinance).

2) Multiple honor killings then use the bodies for anti-Israel purposes. ("Bring fresh honor kills here to us and we will pay you for the bodies so we can then say - 'Look what the Israelis have done, oh my Allahlalalala.'").

178 RC neo-Jew  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:45:57am
179 Earth2moonbat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:47:16am

#137 Beagle

It's stranger than that. It isn't the "pull" of the moon; it's the relativistic deformation due to gravity. Tides were one thing that physicists couldn't fully explain until Einstein came along. They could predict tides, but not explain them.

180 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:50:43am
181 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:51:22am

#179 Earth2moonbat,

To summarize: The Pali's retreated because the tide came back in, correct?

182 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:52:16am
183 Buckaroo  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:58:17am

# 176 M C

Don't hold your breath; he slammed Ed out of nowhere a few days ago, Ed responded in kind, and the idiot hasn't let up since ...

184 W-lover  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:58:30am

I'm going to miss teasing joe about his chickens.

*sigh*

185 groinpullerredux  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 11:59:09am

am i being bullshitted here ?...dagnabbit there are NO tides in the mediterranean.....of this i am sure.....and there are no tides in the south pacific all around tahiti either....

186 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:00:13pm

#180 ploome hineni,

Muslims really cannot be blamed. They are only practising what their "Scriptures" say. Muslims are being good when they kill Infidels (all non-muslims).

They are being bad when they are peaceful and will go to Islamic hell for practising a live and let live philosophy.

Therefore, as I have said before the only good Muslim is a bad Muslim and the only bad Muslim is a good muslim (from an Infidel's perspective that is).

It is all clear now, right?

187 shmujew  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:00:30pm

I guess after 14 centuries of spitting on someone and pushing them around, jews, it is humiliating to be beaten time after time by them . I can understand their MADNESS

188 zulubaby  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:03:07pm
Germany defeated Portugal 3-1 Saturday night in their World Cup match to determine the third and fourth place slots.

France faces Italy Sunday night in Berlin in the championship match.

Viva Italia!

189 Earth2moonbat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:03:26pm

#184 W-lover

Yeah, if nothing else, joe was a distraction to AI......

190 GregInSeattle  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:03:42pm

slightly OT, but close...

I though Yemen was on OUR side!

I guess this IS a war of Islam vs. all non-Muslims : (

191 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:04:15pm

#187 shmujew

Yeah, when your whole culture is built around saying how inferior the people who routinely kick your ass are, then you know you have problems.

192 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:06:16pm

# 183 Buckaroo

Gee - just what we need. Another raving lunatic.

# 185 groinpullerredux

There are tides where there isn't even any water. Trust your geologist on this one...

193 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:07:05pm

Getting rid of Israel is like a quest for a SuperBowl ring for these fanatics. They don't have what it takes, but they keep trying.

/sorry, weird analogy.

194 m  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:07:35pm

#191 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)

Yep.

"We can crush them!"

"ouch ouch tell them to stop!"

"But we can crush them!"

195 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:07:46pm

#175 rockman,

I am going tomorrow. I have the link for the Atlanta location, directions, phone number, times info, etc.

Is it ok to post something like that here?

196 Earth2moonbat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:09:02pm

#187 shmujew

Jews, in particular, and kuffr, in general. I think that Israel represents the generalized "uppity kuffr" to them, and thus in their minds is indistinguishable from every other humiliation at the hands of the kuffr in the past millineum, from the Crusades, to the defeat of the Barbary Pirates, to the collapse of the Ottoman empire, to having their bottoms kicked in 1967 and 1974. To them, it's all the same thing.

197 groinpullerredux  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:09:26pm

but i don't trust anyone these days ....and anyway i'm just a simple sailor man so all this talk of tides without water leaves me somewhat at sea.....if you get my drift...

198 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:12:14pm

# 197 groinpullerredux

Aargh ! Get yerself a gravimeter, ya lowly lubber !

199 ScottG  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:16:34pm

Honestly, I don't understand why all of you are getting worked up over these comments to eliminate Israel.

Don't you know by now that the Muslim will only eliminate Israel internally? Just like Jihad, no real killing or eliminating, just struggling inside their souls....

/is this tag really necessary?

200 ScottG  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:18:53pm

#104 Song_and_Dance_Man

Much to the dismay of those who think the west will continue its alliance with Israel as friend and protector, the man who comes rule this world will convince the nations of the same notion the Muslims advance; that Israel is a problem to all that ails the world.

You mean Jimmy Carter?

201 Missouri Boy  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:20:30pm

The basic problem of the islamic world is the
F*CKING iSlamic world *spit*

202 rockman  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:20:56pm

#195 piglet U93
I doubt Charles would have a problem with that. Enjoy the movie. I'm waiting to see how the MSM savages it in the reviews, or perhaps they will ignore it.

203 groinpullerredux  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:25:49pm

a 'gravimeter'?....is that one of them cooking utensil jobbies lesbians use to impregnate themselves ?

i TOLD you i was a simple man...but not as simple as a friend of mine.....i bought him a pedometer and he accused me of implying he was a child molester...

204 Missouri Boy  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:26:52pm

The real basic problem of the islamic world is that the west let them out.
Send them back to the sh*t hole iSlamic world the came from and then no one else will CARE!
just saying...

205 Mike C.  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:30:49pm

# 203 groinpullerredux

No, silly - it's an instrument for monitering graves, which, as everybody knows, are especially afected by the moon.

What the hell ever happened to edumication in this country ?

206 groinpullerredux  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:32:02pm

struggling to get back on topic i think it's important to remember these people have massive crippling inferiority complexes which are impossible to cure...so get ready for a LONG western 'jihad' to turn back the tide...and it sure would be nice to have a vocal western moderate muslim faction to assist us...but alas.....anyway thank god the world has the USA to lead the fight.

207 groinpullerredux  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:34:54pm

i'm a canadian but i've heard we have a pretty high percentile of eedjits as well....and no(if it's what you're suggesting)my mom and dad didn't have any cousins..

208 RickZ  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:37:07pm

# 158 j-damn

Now we only have to lose the drunk weatherman and things will be perfect around here.

Whether drunk or not (and who are you to complain about a possibly inebriated poster on a blog with a Friday Night Drinking Thread?), Ed's weather updates are far more accurate than that on the Weather Channel.

Now go piss on someone else's cornflakes, preferably your own.

209 cargocultist  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:41:58pm

I think that Ima Dinerjacket was just trying to stay on plan with the rest of the Islamic world. To show solidarity with the rest of Islam. The Zionist Regime can't really be as big a pain in the side of Iran as the US. Over the years when you saw Iranian protests the signs always said Death To USA. And of course USA is just an easy way to write Infidel Crusaders. So when the Pipsqueak made the remark about The Basic Problem he was just keeping on the Basic Plan: First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people.

210 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:46:36pm
211 Missouri Boy  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:50:32pm

"The fury of muslim nations"
Those nations do not know fury...wait till the American public finally gets mad. Just start splodydoping around America and then you will see fury. That is no threat, it is a promise.
(going home to clean the guns)

212 groinpullerredux  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:51:44pm

i DO worry though.....these fellows are quite mad you know...since NOTHING in the way of making war is beneath them....and their cult of death..where they literally pursue self extinction makes it doubly worrisome that some murderous plan is in the making.....i have faith in the secret services of israel and the rest of the west though....our guard is up and i don't think we'll be japped in any decisive way...it's the cuban missile crisis redux indeed.

213 mungagungadin  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:51:46pm

Where ARE our special ops?

How come people could try to assassinate Hitler, but no one is going for this monster?

214 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:53:20pm

The Koskidz are revolting...
Don’t Cross the ‘Cult of Kos’ or You’ll Live to Regret It

Some of you may’ve followed a controversy of a few weeks ago in which Markos Moulitsas asked members of a private discussion group not to discuss a pending SEC investigation against his friend and sometime business partner, Jerome Armstrong...

I wrote a post about this and republished it as a diary at Daily Kos....

I have to say that behavior like what I’ve described above–not just behavior by members, but apparently behavior aided and abetted by the site administrator/s–allows me to understand some of the criticism of Kos and his site flung at him by his critics. My treatment made me feel more like I was participating in a cult in which I’d insulted the chief leader and was receiving the deep six treatment in response.

We Democrats critical of precisely this type of rigid, censorious, know-it-all behavior on the part of conservatives? What is wrong with questioning our standards and behavior once in a while? Must one be labelled a “concern troll” and political enemy for suggesting that political bloggers observe a code of ethics? What are the people at Daily Kos afraid of?

I don't know if this is going to be an all out revolt but the cracks are starting to show.

215 groinpullerredux  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:58:10pm

i'm reminded of 'young frankenstein' for some strange reason....all the villagers bearing torches trooping up to the castle in the midnight hour...gene "call me markos" wilder explaining how everything is actually 'cool'.....

216 Muck DeFuslims  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 12:58:48pm

A conference in Tehran on security in Iraq ?

Did the Arab officials from Bahrain, Egypt, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria gathered in Tehran Saturday for a two-day conference on security in Iraq burst into applause during and after Ahmadinejad's speech ?

I'll bet they did.

Our Arab Muslim allies.

Convening on security in Iraq.

Was it a Muslim only conference ?

Of course the way to achieve security in Iraq is to wipe Israel off the map.
And naturally, the Great Satan USA must be destroyed as well.

Our Arab Muslim allies Kuwait, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia.

Charles might have been being somewhat facetious when he called the conference a 'target rich' environment, but it's certainly alot more accurate than calling any of the nations attending the conference an ally.

217 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 1:04:00pm

#214 addendum (More Cracks)...
Something is Rotten in Blogmark: UPDATED

Sometimes I am embarrassed to call myself a member of DKos.

This is one of those times.

There is a sort of groupthink, Lord of the Flies kind of behaviour at DKos over certain issues that absolutely makes me nauseated.
...
I'm sorry, but if you run a political website and if you have clout that results in lots of people following your lead and sending donations, if your endorsement translates to positive cash flow and footwork for candidates or causes by a large contingent of your website's membership, then you MUST be transparent. You MUST, or you begin to lose credibility -- or, put another way, there begins to be the "appearance of impropriety," no matter how benign and blameless you may actually BE.

P.S. #1 recommended diary

It seems there is a long slow burn going on over there. Maybe Kos crashed his own gate afterall.

218 SnowDawg  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 1:05:26pm
The basic problem in the Islamic world is

Anyone who is not a muslim

219 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 1:07:07pm

Heaven forbid we here in the US or Israel call Ahmedinejad’s statements for exactly what they are, ‘Declarations and Proclamations of War.’

Hell no…we’re too nice. We’ll sit here until the problem compounds itself into a conflict that by necessity demands desperate measures.

Attributed to numerous others, 'Here’s your sign....'

220 Amalie  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 1:24:22pm

217 Kilgore

Was this poster banned on KOS after this comment was made?

221 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 1:29:35pm
222 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 1:29:48pm

#220 Amalie
I don't think he was banned for his Kos diary although he migh get banned for critsizing LLL groupthink and Kos corruption on his own blog. Something similar happened to our Qeualla a few months ago.

223 spanishpete  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 1:37:02pm

A conference in Tehran on security in Iraq ?
yes of course as soon as we leave they will take control in the name of islam.
the fat sadir will control the shias and be a big noise.backed up by iran, as for the rest well it will be split up and fucked up and usless as most islamic hope is.
why do we bother to build nations that dont want to be built.
does anybody here really believe and i mean really believe in their heart that iraq will be a happy ending.

224 lawhawk  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 1:37:24pm

OT:

Hamas declares victory over the IDF.

Never mind the fact that Hamas has been getting pasted, they're declaring victory precisely because they're still possessing the ability to breathe.

Oh, and some of their minions picked up Israeli ID cards...

225 spanishpete  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 1:48:00pm

when we went into Iraq it was for wmds, after Saddam was gone we said that we were not there for nation building.
but the UN shamed us and said you have to restore a way of life to these people.
and we fell for it.
from almost zero loss of troops lives to defeat a country. to thousands lost playing policeman plod to a brain dead population that hate you and only care for Islam.
we are not creating democracy in these country's.we are just sitting waiting for the Islamic baby to be born.

226 ibrodsky  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 2:12:37pm

Islam is so evil it teaches Muslims that they "win" when they die.

227 neverquit  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 2:38:21pm
“I am reminding them to stop the crimes of this corrupt government before it is too late"

Oh really Skippy? Before it's too late? I wonder what he is inferring here?

228 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 2:39:26pm

OT-

Has there been a thread about the NAU and the Superhighway? If so, I will try to find it.

229 twolaneflash  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 2:40:13pm

I believe a Constitutional amendment is necessary outlawing islam in America. Those who wish to worship all-hell-ah can repatriate to hell, or where ever that evil reigns. As to the iranian people not being America's enemy: in WWII, Germany was our enemy, and everyone in it; that included man, woman , child. They were killed indiscriminately until they surrendered UNCONDITIONALLY. We made the mistake in iraq of not continuing the slaughter till they ALL begged for peace on our terms. Screw all you pc'd half-measured quitters who want to surrender. Damn surrender-monkeys.

230 neverquit  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 2:46:11pm

#225 - We "USA" went into Iraq for a myriad of reasons. All listed, repeatedly.

231 solomonpanting  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 2:46:38pm
#28 leftout

I'm still thinking of the 7/7 thread in which Londoners blame themselves for not being nice enough and tolerant of enough of the Muslims who are out to kill them.

Lenin said something about the capitalist selling him (and communists) the rope with which to kill the capitalist.
Ahmadinejad, Islamoterrorists and their ilk seek to destroy the infidel through the use of infidel laws because they (infidels) allow them.

232 sms111  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 2:58:05pm

Ahmadinejad is a little man, an idiot, a coward, with a little penis unsuitable for sex with women. This is his sick way of trying to make up for his mental and physical deficiencies.

Unfortunately for him and his little schlong, Jews aren't available for mass extermination anymore. Maybe he can find a substitute. How about Durfur blacks, Mr. Ahmadinejad?

233 gymnast  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 3:00:29pm

#225, Spanish Pete. In addition to ousting Saddam and the Baathist regime, having 3 airbases on Iran's and Syria's borders and a strategic jumping off point to anywhere in the Southwest Asia area of interest is more than sufficient reason to go into and stay in Iraq. The Middle East may be claimed by the Islamists, but they sure as Hell do not have guaranteed title to it as long as we have a presence.

234 BenZacharia  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 3:08:38pm

E2M

Please see #80

Kirly

Last week

Maine, frozen pigs head, unless it has become the newest frat prank 'bowling for jihadis'.

235 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 3:11:01pm
236 transient  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 3:34:30pm
Ahmadinejad has already called for Israel to be "wiped off the map" or moved as far away as Alaska.

Perhaps Iran could be moved as far away as the moon.

On second thought, make that the center of the sun. Then, at least, this psycho will have his dream of nuclear power, up close and personal.

237 George guy  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 3:49:36pm

We don't need a constitutional amendment. We just need to clarify that not all rights are equal.

The right to not be killed, robbed, or enslaved trumps the right to freely practice religion, and religions that don't recognize this are open season.

238 Earth2moonbat  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 4:05:14pm

#234 BenZacharia

Somebody could make money with a bowling alley, with balls shaped like pig heads, and pins that look like muzzles praying with their butts in the air. You could call it mowling or something....

239 Carridine  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 4:08:55pm
“The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime, protecting Him Who has authority to dissolve Islam, allowing Him to continue risking discovery by the ummah, who will want to embrace Him and abandon Muslim clergy, and the Islamic world and the region must mobilise to remove this problem,”

No wonder the Christian clergy in America are upset! More and more people are seeing the clear parallel between CLERGY (Christian) and CLERGY (Muslim), standing like obstacles between We, the People, and the Glory of God, Baha'u'llah!

240 The Other Les  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 4:10:42pm

"Leave the missile silo, take the canoli."

241 j-damn  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 4:25:21pm
#208 RickZ 7/8/2006 02:37PM PDT

Whether drunk or not (and who are you to complain about a possibly inebriated poster on a blog with a Friday Night Drinking Thread?), Ed's weather updates are far more accurate than that on the Weather Channel.

Bully for him. Maybe he should start his own blog. You could be his first registrant.

242 techno_barbarian  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 5:08:22pm

# 158 j-damn

Besides posting some really interesting comments, Ed's just damned useful.

This place is lucky to have him.

I'm really confused, because I've read some interesting posts by you as well. Wouldn't have predicted you two for conflict.

Each to his own, but losing Ed would diminish lgf, IMHO.

243 pdq332  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 5:17:29pm

“Nations in the region will be more furious every day, and it will not be long before this intense fury will lead to a huge explosion,” Ahmadinejad said.

“The waves of fury of Muslim nations will not be confined within the boundaries of the region, and the people who close their ears to the cries of the Palestinians and blindly support this regime will be responsible for the consequences,” he warned.

We can only hope that its another "mother of all battles."

244 kafir  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 6:23:08pm

psychotic paranoid schizophrenia

245 mattm  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 6:38:19pm

Can we Bomb Iran? Please.

246 flyingcloud  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:31:08pm

Flying cloud: It is the duty of humanity to eliminate Islam.

247 psmith  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 7:46:39pm

test *memory failure*

248 UncleSam  Sat, Jul 8, 2006 9:24:57pm

Yeah, just blame the Jews for the pitiful state of the so-called Islamic world.
You haven't made a useful contribution to the world since islam began.
Just endless death, hate and murder.

249 The Albatross  Thu, Jul 13, 2006 9:04:16pm

Ahmadinejad is a mad hatter in mud hutsville... no wonder Iranians are such haters.


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