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What the Hell is Wrong with the Washington Post?

Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 7:52:54 am PDT

The Washington Post gives op-ed column space this morning to the leader of a genocidal terrorist organization, who uses it to justify kidnapping and murder: Aggression Under False Pretenses. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)

I’d say the Washington Post has hit bottom with this one, but I suspect there’s still a nadir they haven’t reached. Notice that this piece is filed from an imaginary death cult state.

GAZA, Palestine — As Americans commemorated their annual celebration of independence from colonial occupation, rejoicing in their democratic institutions, we Palestinians were yet again besieged by our occupiers, who destroy our roads and buildings, our power stations and water plants, and who attack our very means of civil administration. Our homes and government offices are shelled, our parliamentarians taken prisoner and threatened with prosecution.

The current Gaza invasion is only the latest effort to destroy the results of fair and free elections held early this year. It is the explosive follow-up to a five-month campaign of economic and diplomatic warfare directed by the United States and Israel. The stated intention of that strategy was to force the average Palestinian to “reconsider” her vote when faced with deepening hardship; its failure was predictable, and the new overt military aggression and collective punishment are its logical fulfillment. The “kidnapped” Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit is only a pretext for a job scheduled months ago.

This is utterly disgusting. Has the Washington Post no shame?

UPDATE at 7/11/06 8:27:56 am:

If you’re as appalled as I am about this vile terrorist propaganda, write to the Washington Post and tell them.

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1 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:54:03am

This is utterly disgusting. Has the Washington Post no shame?
They are
WHORES OF THE CALIPHATE

2 Seven_Stripes  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:54:23am

This is turning into James Bond's "Tomorrow Never Dies".

The evil mega news corporations "create" the news and mold it to their liking.

How disgustingly diabolical.

3 Roger  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:54:45am

And whores of the money cult

4 jehu  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:55:35am
Has the Washington Post no shame?

To have shame, you must have honor, they have neither.

5 dcbatlle  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:56:21am

Just because a government is democratically elected doesn't give them a carte blanche to launch thousands of kassam rockets at Israel. It doesn't immunize them from the consequences of their actions.

GO ISRAEL.

6 Spiny Norman  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:56:30am
The “kidnapped” Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit is only a pretext for a job scheduled months ago.

Yep. Just like 9/11 was the (implied "phony") pretext to invade Iraq, and Afghanistan for it's "riches", that was planned months earlier.

The Religion of Conspiracy Theory.

7 JohnSteele  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:56:48am

Roger:

I'd be happy if it was only about money. But it isn't money, its ideology. The WaPo and others are on the side of the enemy, intent on destroying America. Their reasons are differnt from the Islamists, but the goals are the same.

8 rcris5  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:57:02am

Shame? Must be joking.

9 Obi-wan  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:57:11am

What the hell is wrong with the Washington Post?


How much bandwidth do you have?

10 Axiom  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:57:34am

You're only allowed to oppress the Jordyptians if you're an Arab country.

It's a lot easier to understand pressthink when you grasp this simple concept.

11 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:58:12am
As Americans commemorated their annual celebration of independence from colonial occupation

oh Lord.

12 TMF  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:58:23am

Breaking: Multiple train bombings in India during evening rush.

More bushhitler hysteria no doubt.

13 transient  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:59:50am

Working on a letter to editor, but it's impossible to refute so much garbage in a short space.

14 Roger  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:59:52am

#7 JohnSteele, that's why the And; meant to be a continuation of #1 BabbaZee.

A thread is a working draft and your contribution is very helpful to the direction of this document:-)

15 grayp  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 5:59:54am

Shame? Hell, no. Jealousy? Lots! the NYT is getting way too much attention. Also, their circulation is tanking and they're looking for a new demographic.

16 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:00:05am

At least it was in the op-ed section and not the usual front page; Front page opinion piece masquerading as "news".

Actually - I'm surprised it didn't make the front page.

17 SlothB77  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:00:28am

next week: guest editorialist Kim Jong-Il

18 frankp_63  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:00:32am

When you practice a profession as discredited as journalism, either one is a liability.

Meanwhile Fox has the solution to win the WOT:

Mandatory mushrooms for radical Muslims
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

19 wanumba  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:00:45am

Hard to know what's the depth of depravity when there are so many competitors, including the media helping to push the despictable enemy lie that the two US soldiers were murdered in retaliation for a (an alleged) crime.

20 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:00:55am
who destroy our roads and buildings, our power stations and water plants

That has to be a real bummer for the terrorists considering all those things were probably built by Israel or the UN, and the Palis have not the slightest clue how to build new ones.

21 Poitiers-Lepanto  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:02:44am

.

Has the Washington Post no shame?

I hope this example will be used in all the schools of the Country to explain what's a

"rhetorical question".

Other good examples would be:

is islam a religion ?
do the democrats support the troops ?
are the subversives patriotic ?
is the West awake to the dangers of the islamic invasion in 2006 ?

of course not

AND OT:

WE give Geneva Convention protection to the terrorists (YAHOO)

Bombs in India (the Zen Monks again)

22 morganfrost  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:02:47am

They were going to run an OpEd by Basayev explaining why the Russians deserved to have their children held hostage and why threatening to blow up theaters full of people is a positive thing. Sadly, he was killed just the other day, but, fortunately, the Post was able to find another Muslim terrorist to sub for him on short notice.

23 daledog  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:04:19am

As if the Paleostinian built these roads, buildings, power stations, and water plants. As if the Paleostinians have a civil admininstration. What a joke. The Paleostinians are a parasitic people who cannot create, they can only destroy. Check that, they can create kassam rockets.

24 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:04:27am

And it wasn't just Haniyeh's piece in the paper today. They had a piece honoring the Butcher of Beslan as well.

Absolutely disgraceful.

25 transient  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:05:28am

I don't even blame the WaPo for printing it. We want the enemy to be open about his views, so they can be refuted. I think Haniyeh's aims and goals are transparent, and the only people who will be fooled by it are those who already believe that "justice" means annihilating 6 million Jews for the sake of 6 million "Palestinians."

However, I think the WaPo should have printed an opposing op-ed.

26 BenZacharia  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:05:46am

Unification Church, maybe? Fox is headed the same way.

27 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:06:04am

#11 Frogmarch

This misuse of terms infuriates me.

To colonize suggest oppressing indigenous populations as the Spanish did in South America.

The colonists from Europse established a colony in the image of what they left. The native population was a separate population; it wasn't colonized (it was fought and overpowered).

I am truly afraid that the day of all-out war with Islam--and I mean within Western countries, not just with muslim-majority ones--is really coming. I don't like to think that a portion of Americans will have to be overcome, but if they're Muslims more than Americans--and the two cannot coexist--then we'll have no choice.

28 Barbara Skolaut  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:07:52am
Has the Washington Post no shame?

No. Why do you ask?

29 WriterMom  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:08:38am

The Washington Post is not a "newspaper" it is a disgrace.

Letting genocidal, Jew-hating, American-hating "leaders" of death cults have prime real estate-even on fishwrap-is morally reprehensible.

30 Jamie  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:08:38am

18 frankp_63,

Mandatory mushrooms for radical Muslims

Imagine hallucinating 144 virgins, only to find out it's just a larger box of white raisins.

31 uncle_monkey  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:09:32am
“kidnapped”

Asshats.

32 Joel  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:10:51am

Can you imgagine the Washignton Psot giving a forum to Reinhard Heydrich? Come to think of it, I can!

33 Roger  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:10:56am

#25 transient

Do you also think Himmler and Goebels should have gotten square footage in the American press too?

34 Athos  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:11:58am
I’d say the Washington Post has hit bottom with this one, but I suspect there’s still a nadir they haven’t reached.

Unfortunately, the depths of their moral and intellectual bankruptcy when it comes to supporting and advocating for terrorists clearly demonstrates that it has yet to hit bottom.

Palestinian priorities include recognition of the core dispute over the land of historical Palestine and the rights of all its people; resolution of the refugee issue from 1948; reclaiming all lands occupied in 1967; and stopping Israeli attacks, assassinations and military expansion. Contrary to popular depictions of the crisis in the American media, the dispute is not only about Gaza and the West Bank; it is a wider national conflict that can be resolved only by addressing the full dimensions of Palestinian national rights in an integrated manner.

Once again, hidden in the lies is the main message - the desire for the destruction of the State of Israel.

35 cfomahm  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:13:16am

What a piece of excrement. Of course I am sure they will soon be giving equal space to the opposing viewpoint.

/

This part really toasted me,

They think, doubtless, of the hostage soldier, taken in battle -- yet thousands of Palestinians, including hundreds of women and children, remain in Israeli jails for resisting the illegal, ongoing occupation that is condemned by international law.

Yeah, they are all just "resistors". Do these asshats think we are all stupid/naive enough to believe that. And at least their "resistors" don't have to fear torture or murder while prisoners.

And as for all their kidnapped officials, well, the Palis started it.

36 Jamie  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:14:22am

#33 Roger,

Do you also think Himmler and Goebels should have gotten square footage in the American press too?

There's a slight but important difference: Israel recognizes the Palestinian Authority's legitimacy and hopes for them to one day be a peace partner, however idealistic that may be. Haniyeh is their PM, so while I don't see giving him column space as particularly laudable, I also don't think it's as bad as giving it to Himmler or Goebels.

To me, the bigger obscenity is the dateline.

37 Barbara Skolaut  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:14:25am
I’d say the Washington Post has hit bottom with this one, but I suspect there’s still a nadir they haven’t reached.

It helps to remember all the MSM fifth columnists organizations have multiple backhoes on retainer.

38 TMF  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:14:47am

On another note, I hear Ted Bundy is going to be a regular columnist

39 BenZacharia  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:14:49am

Let's operate, scalpel please.

The ongoing waves of terrorism Gaza invasion is are only the latest efforts to destroy the Israel the Jews and Christians civilazation white bread and indoor plumbing results of fair and free elections held early this year.

40 TMF  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:15:37am

#38 cont

His first column is "Pick up tips for Horny, extremely violent guys"

41 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:16:37am

Actually, as bad as it was, by the end I was glad it was published.

42 Big Al  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:17:27am

Unbelievable! Now WaPo is a mouthpiece for terrorists. Incredible. How much propaganda and disinformation can you put in one article!? Oh it's a real beauty. Brings me to tears. Whoever wrote that is a true master, worthy of Goebbels himself. The Washington Post is now officially complicit with terrorist organizations. Call a boycott Charles. Get your media friends to do the same. No one should buy a single paper from these creeps!

43 Blue Chip  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:19:07am

Moral illiteracy at its worst.

The MSM attempts to justify any action, from any position, for any reason.

Like a lawyer defending a client they know is guilty; blame the victim, the culture, the society for making their client a criminal.

When you have no moral standards, no pronouncements of good or bad behavior, no authority to judge right and wrong – you can spout all kinds of shit.

I personally view most members of the MSM as anti American idiots, anyway.

44 tigger2005  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:19:28am

# 11 frogmarch

I know. This idiot doesn't understand the American Revolution at all. It wasn't a revolt against "colonial occupation." It was a revolt BY COLONISTS against being ruled by England without representation in Parliament.

It was the indigenous population, the "Native Americans" who might properly be said to have resisted "colonial occupation."

45 WriterMom  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:19:29am

Here is the Washington Post's Contact Us Page:
I think we should all write brief, polite e-mails saying THERE AIN'T NO PLACED CALLED PALESTINE, and that it is revolting to see a terrorist 'occupying' their pages.

Lot's of other good points to make.

Also-letting the word "kidnapping" of Gilad Shalit-be put in scare quotes is vile.

46 Roger  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:19:58am

#41 Carl in Jerusalem

But that is not how it will be read and consumed in Washington.

47 Axiom  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:20:06am
It is the explosive follow-up to a five-month campaign of economic and diplomatic warfare directed by the United States and Israel.


I guess Hamas members don't have consistent talking points. I thought it was the UK that was orchestrating the Hamas isolation.

Yet Israeli collective punishment only strengthens our collective resolve to work together.


They're applauding the "collective punishment"? They actually want more?

These Palestinians are insufferable. They vote for their own demise and appoint leaders that appeal to the west to intersect Israel's right to self defense? This is unconscionable.

These assholes don't offer a peep about the Egyptian or Jordanian "aggression", ie self defense, where they respectively share borders with terrorists.

48 tigger2005  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:20:47am

# 38 tmf

What? Did Bundy survive his frying?

49 J. Lichty  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:22:05am
I’d say the Washington Post has hit bottom with this one, but I suspect there’s still a nadir they haven’t reached.

Yeah, they still haven't published one from Jimmy Carter yet.

50 wltzacrsstxs  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:22:08am

"Illegal occupation?" WTF?

When is ANYONE going to report the TRUTH about the history "Palestine?"

The people who call themselves "Palestinians" are Arabs who chose the wrong side in a war. Their side lost.

Never in history have the losers of a war gotten to make the rules. If you lose a war, you have to give your piece of dirt to the other side and/or follow the other side's rules. The winners get to decide. Ask the Prussians, the Germans, the Japanese, the Spanish, the French, the Cherokees, the Confederates . . . I could go on . . .

Why is this so hard to understand?

51 La Mauvaise New Yorkaise  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:22:10am

I don't recall seeing this one posted here (it's somewhat old by LGF standards), but another Washington Post Islamic "puff piece" gem:

Latinas Balance Catholic Upbringing, Adoption of Islam

Islam is great for women who want a less mysogynistic culture! Who knew?

/do I need it?

52 grayp  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:23:25am

You think the US media is a disgrace? The European media leaves it in the dust. Check out this thread on medienkritik.

From the Financial Times Deutschland:

Whoever follows the political debate and the media reporting in the USA on the matter, however, can hardly find an independently researched word not authorized by the military."
53 RebelPOW  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:23:42am
The “kidnapped” Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit is only a pretext for a job scheduled months ago.

Gee, then maybe you shouldn't have given Israel a 'pretext' in that case.

Ya think?

54 IowaInfidel  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:24:43am
55 Joel  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:26:00am

Yo can tell the WaPo what you think of them by sending an email at Letters@WashPost.com

56 Stringart  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:26:21am
This means statehood for the West Bank and Gaza

This may not be the right time/place to ask this, but I've wondered about this for some time.

Why haven't they declared themselves a state?

The former parts Yugoslavia, a sizeable portion of the USSR and the Czechs and Slovaks have declared themselves states and to the best of my knowledge, the rest of the world recognizes each as a sovereign state.

I don't recall any place, from Azerbaijan to Uzbekistan, waiting for statehood to be bestowed upon them by someone or something else; statehood was announced and acknowledged.

Why is Palestine different?

57 Joel  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:26:46am

45 WrtierMom
You beat me to it.

58 WriterMom  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:31:10am

#57 Joel

Great minds...

PS: You're a NYC lizard right? I promised my father I would try to gather some contacts for his next trip to NYC to see my brother...Dad lurks...do the NYC lizards meet?

59 BusinessGuy  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:31:30am

My letter just sent to letters@washpost.com:

I have just come across your page A17 Opinion piece of July 10, Aggression Under False Pretenses and am appalled that you are providing opinion space to spokespeople for identified terrorist organizations. "Elected" or not, we don't lightly assign the worldwide label "terrorist organization". Did the WaPo give Op/Ed space to Hitler's regime? Provided "equal time" to Tokyo Rose? Have you extended the offer to the N. Korean regime or maybe Osama Bin Laden is next on your pages.

What utter depravity and contempt for this country that you have shown to us all. Do you so hate the (fill-in-the-blank here with the hated US political leader or US government branch of the day....) that you would give voice to terrorists to further your agenda?

Did you even read the piece? The Palestinians refused a state in 1948 because it would have forced them to recognize Israel. The aggression hasn't stopped since then and the Op/Ed piece at least tells that part like it is... "If Israel is prepared to negotiate seriously and fairly, and resolve the core 1948 issues, rather than the secondary ones from 1967, a fair and permanent peace is possible." What are the core issues? First and foremost is Israel's existence. Israel vacated Gaza and left the Palestinians to govern themselves. The response? Building new housing? Improving their infrastructure? Taking advantage of the productive greenhouses Mr. Gates and others purchased for them? No, they stripped the infrastructure, looted the greenhouses, and applied the available foreign aid to building missiles, 1000+ of which have rained down on Israeli cities from the Palestinian "state". How unwarranted it is for Israel to move into Gaza and dig out a buffer zone in response to their vacation of the strip. How would the US respond to 1000+ missiles being fired at Brownsville, Laredo, El Paso, or San Diego from Mexico? Certainly not with the level of restraint that Israel has shown.

I'd say your esteemed publication has hit bottom and started to dig, but I suspect there is worse to come. Osama doesn't need to target DC... you've got it covered for him.

60 Axiom  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:33:22am

I fired off a letter to the editor already.

If you haven't already, write to the editor and voice your opinion about Mr. Haniyeh's short term memory.

letters@washpost.com

61 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:47:41am

Did y'all notice this sop to feel-good American LLL types?

The stated intention of that strategy was to force the average Palestinian to "reconsider" her vote

Oh, wow! He avoids the sexist use of the word "his" as a generic pronoun, instead opting for the progressive use of "her"! How sensitive! How forward-looking!

62 transient  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:48:23am

#33 Roger

Goebbels--the propaganda meister--no. Hitler, the boss, yes. Hitler was very open about his intentions. No one listened. Banning the message that offends us (like the BBC dhimmi ban) is not going to help the cause. The American public should know what we are fighting against. This is an important part of a free press. Nearly every time Hamas opens its collective mouth, it puts its paw straight in.

As I said in #25, the WaPo's major error is in not soliciting a counter op-ed.

#41 Carl
Great blog entry but I hope you're going to send a letter to the WaPo.

63 transient  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:49:09am

My letter is in.

64 Roger  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:50:56am

#62 transient, it is not banning to not accept a manuscript for publication.

65 upchuck  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:53:00am

New Pali government can't improve infrastructure, build hospitals, schools, roads etc. because the Israelis keep sending "homemade" rockets that keep the Palis too busy dodging. The Israelis just won't leave them alone. It's really hard to dig a tunnel when Israeli suicide bombers keep interrupting and causing death and confusion among the peaceful Pali people who only want to be left alone so that they can irrigate the desert and raise food so that they won't have to depend on welfare from kind nations of the world/peace be upon them.

66 DocMartyn  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 6:58:11am

I just read this article when I was at Lucianne.com., and was both angry and speachless. How can an American newspaper print such vile lies, without allowing a comments section or a counter article. What the hell is wrong with the press in the USA? The NYT and WaPo are becoming more and more left of the Guardian or Independant, but lack the couter weight of a Telegraph or (London) Times.

A disgracful article.

67 transient  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:01:17am

#64 Roger

Technically no. The WaPo certainly has the right to decide what it accepts and what it doesn't. However, even though Haniyeh isn't head of an actual State, he is in an analogous position, and I want people to have see his revolting / distorted/ ignorant views. I would say the same for Kim Jung Il. I think anything that man could put together in an English article would reveal his utter loathsomeness. But I also want people to have access to opposing views, which is what the WaPo left out.

68 transient  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:02:28am

I think it's time for breakfast.

69 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:04:54am
Las Crucen returns to share experience in Gaza
Yasmin Piñon

LAS CRUCES (2006-07-10) Las Crucen Sarah Rogers is excited for the opportunity to move to Boston. More so, than the average American because for four years, she didn't have the right to go anywhere at all. KRWG's Yasmin Pinon met Rogers the first time she told her story in public.

That link has an audio link to this American woman telling her story of escape from Gaza. Towards the end she says, "So the most important thing for people to know from my experience of living there is, it's not the Israelis that are killing Palestinians, it's Hamas which is killing Palestinians."

70 upchuck  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:06:56am

#41 Carl/ I believe you covered everything...

71 wiseoldfool  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:07:50am

What I find amazing about the MSM is that the more they lose credibility, the more they engage in the blatant anti-American propoganda that damaged their credibility in the first place.

The democratic party does the exact same thing. The more they lose power, the more they do the very things that cost them that power.

The arrogance of the left, and their inability to accept and learn from their mistakes, suggests to me that we may be witnessing the beginning of the end of modern (not calssical) liberalism in the United States.

The leftists may still be in control of most of the social, political, educational and media institutions, but the foundations those institutions were built on are crumbling.

In their ceaseless 40-year effort to bring down the "establishment" by corrupting, and eventually destroying, the institutional pillars that the establsihment was built on, the leftists BECAME the establishment and have nearly succeeded in destroying themselves. Oh, the irony!

72 m  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:10:51am

Israel: PA Claims of Hunger are a Lie

Contrary to Palestinian Authority claims, the IDF is allowing food and medicines into Gaza, food supplies are ample, and some crossings are open. IDF: "PA terrorism is the source of the problem."

...

Col. Nir Fares, head of the IDF liaison office in Gaza, told Arutz-7 that though the situation "is not easy," it is "far from a humanitarian crisis or hunger. However, the reason for this has nothing to do with Israel - but rather with the ongoing terrorism against Israel and the Hamas government that supports it."
73 pediomelum  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:16:25am

This is utterly the wrong place to attack the biases of the MSM. Giving a little op-ed space to a controversial political--even a most abhorent poltical one--is exactly what I would want the media to do. It is important to know what our enemies think. Our domestic political opponents (as opposed to our enemies) agree with me in principle (if not in practice) on this issue. In fact, their agreement in principle here is what makes them think that they are virtous people. When we rail against this editorial, we undermine our chance to win people over to our point of view. Our domestic political opponents feel that they can ignore what we have to say because we've made ourselves look unthinking and intolerant.

It is far better for us to concentrate our attacks on the mainstream media on the biases that we can demostrate it has. It's a strategy that does convince people & if done rationally won't turn people off.

74 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:19:50am

#73:

It is important to know what our enemies think.

This piece does not tell anyone what our enemies think. It is mendacious agitprop, trying to fool people into believing all Hamas wants is self-determiniation, peace, love, fluffy bunnies, etc. In a word, it's bullshit. And it's unchallenged bullshit, receiving the implicit endorsement of the WaPo op-ed page. To put it another way, do you think they should also run op-ed pieces by the KKK?

75 smill1953  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:21:35am

Captain's Quarter does an excellent job of illuminating this tripe in the Post:

[Link: www.captainsquartersblog.com...]

76 Roger  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:23:14am

#67 transient, there is a high percentage of people who will not see it as revolting / distorted/ ignorant views. More like right on!

77 cosmicview  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:26:46am

Giving terrorists who want to murder civilians and who are involved in the murder of Americans is not my idea of a good example of free speech. This man does not speak the truth nor does he care to engage in real dialogue, anyone who imagines giving a terrorist murderer the opportunity to propagandize is a good thing might want to update their education.

78 mayweed  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:30:26am

To No. 59:

Excellent letter!

Unfortunately, even if they bother to read it, I suspect they will be far too stupid to understand anything you wrote, and it will all go sailing completely over their heads.

79 cosmicview  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:34:36am

In regard to the nazi's being worse because we hope to negotiate with the PA "someday," didn't some people imagine that they could negotiate with the nazi's before they had no choice but to fight them. Perhaps this mentality could be studied so millions of people won't again be sacrificed to the imagination of anti war fanatics.
For those that still don't get it; given the chance hamas will kill you, your mother, father and all your children. What don't you understand about this?

80 Joel  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:37:01am

58 WriterMom

NY City lizards have not met in a long itme. You can email me though and I would be happy to meet him.

81 sms111  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:43:40am

#42 Big Al

Unbelievable! Now WaPo is a mouthpiece for terrorists.

Dear WaPo,

How much were you paid to publish this propaganda?

82 Tuna  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:44:27am

#59 BusinessGuy

Great letter! I wrote them also and mentioed the greenhouses, etc.

Your letter is way better than mine, though. Sigh.

-The Tuna

83 Merovign  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 7:45:32am

#73 pediomelum

I can see why you'd say that. The problem is that this IS a good example of MSM bias - they allow the terrorist enemy to get their message out without identifying the obvious and shameful lies therein, but when they report our message (and Israel's) they can't help but cast doubt and add their own twisted commentary.

If that isn't bias, what is it , a cheese sandwich?

84 OldTime_Rock&Roll  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 8:03:57am

#81 sms111
#42 Big Al

Unbelievable! Now WaPo is a mouthpiece for terrorists.

Dear WaPo,

How much were you paid to publish this propaganda?


----
Just a guess, but probably thirty pieces of silver.

85 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 8:04:58am

OT:
Who's writing the headlines at the NYT?

Woman Killed in Boston Big Dig Tunnel Fall

Tunnel Fall? That makes it sound like the woman fell in the tunnel. The frickin' tunnel collapsed on this woman's vehicle as she was driving through the tunnel.

86 EE  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 8:10:34am

The most immediate demand that Hamas wants is that the kidnapping of Cpl. Gilad Shalit should be rewarded. To support that demand, Haniyeh lies and says that Cpl. Shalit was captured in battle. Not so. The Hamas jihadis and their allies tunneled under the Gaza-Israel border, into sovereign Israel, where they kidnapped Cpl. Shalit.

If Israel were to reward this kidnapping of an Israeli soldier, kidnapped while he was in sovereign Israel, by releasing terrorists from their jails, the result would be that the kidnappings of Israeli soldiers would continue. It would be an encouragement of kidnapping, and that would become part of the modus operandi of the jihad against Israel.

87 plutosdad  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 8:22:17am

I've very confused. I thought Israel left Gaza, leaving them to live in peace by themselves. Should the Palestinians and Hamas be celebrating?

Oh yeah, they were too busy launching rockets to murder more Jewish civilians living in Israel. I guess that wasn't important enough for the Post to write about.

88 pediomelum  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 8:23:07am

#83 Merovign
The problem is that this IS a good example of MSM bias - they allow the terrorist enemy to get their message out without identifying the obvious and shameful lies therein

Anything on the op-ed page should be assumed to represent a particular viewpoint, and one should consider whether that viewpoint includes obvious and shame lies. The MSM would tell you that in a second and for once they are right. I view the problem with the MSM is that what is not on the op-ed pages is far too often obvious and shameful lies.

Overall, I don't think it is worthwhile arguing about whether in some cosmic sense I right on this issue. My point is more how do we market our ideas. Most of my friends are complete moonbats and one of the most normal friends works as an editor for the NYT. I have some success in getting them to see reason. And isn't getting them to see reason the whole point? Don't we want to win?

89 EE  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 8:28:24am

If the WaPo becomes the voice of terrorism, that is a new development that is not good for the war on terror. Giving a platform to a leading terrorist organization is taking a step toward becoming the voice of terrorism.

90 natenewton  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 8:31:22am

WTF?

We present this clear message: If Israel will not allow Palestinians to live in peace, dignity and national integrity, Israelis themselves will not be able to enjoy those same rights.

How about the Palestinians stop firing rockets into Isreal and stop kidnapping IDF soldiers? Maybe that would be and option. These people are looney.

91 WriterMom  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 8:33:43am

#80 Joel

I've just sent you an e-mail...Thanks.

92 WriterMom  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 8:38:03am

Heee hee...I just sent my letter to the Washington Post.

That was fun.

93 Apu Pibat  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 9:01:46am

At times like this I'm reminded of Bobby Knight telling a reporter he was in a profession one or two steps above a prostitute.

Bobby Knight for press secretary!

94 J.D.  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 9:07:52am

#93 Abu Pibat
I have a friend who had this video several years ago...now some of it is online.
Funny stuff, but might want to turn down the volume if you're in a sensitive environ.
Bobby Knight Outtakes

95 strandedSF  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 9:30:10am

#45 WriterMom:

I think we should all write brief, polite e-mails saying THERE AIN'T NO PLACED CALLED PALESTINE, and that it is revolting to see a terrorist 'occupying' their pages.

Yes, there's no place such as "Palestine." And according to Hamas, there's also no such place as "Israel," since they absolutely refuse to recognize it. Therefore, how can Haniyeh be writing about this fictional entity? How can a fictional entity possess tanks? And how can a fictional entity be held to the standards of "international" law" (gag)?

The contradictions in this man's argument are obvious to all but a few brainwashed sufferers of BDS whose illness should not be encouraged by supporting their delusional belief system. Washington Post: stop the insanity now.

96 norar  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 9:34:36am
The “kidnapped” Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit is only a pretext for a job scheduled months ago.

Well, if this is true, why Haniyeh does not work to release Shalit and take away these "false pretences"?

97 Big Al  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 9:37:05am

#81 sms111
#84 OldTime_Rock&Roll

It's like publishing an op-ed by Hitler in 1938. What the hell!? I mean since when did "main stream" newspapers become mouth pieces for individuals representing groups on the U.S. State Department’s list of terrorist entities? This is absolutely appalling, pernicious, and insidious behaviour on the part of the Post. I mean publishing pieces by wacademics, leftist politicians and journalists all of whom may be vociferous detractors of the State of Israel is one thing, but to actually publish a specious and disingenuous piece from the head of a terror organization is quite another. I wish people would boycott that filthy rag. WaPo makes the New York Times and LA Times seem fair and balanced in comparison.

98 truthteller  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 9:45:28am

His language, on the day of multiple ROP strikes in India, is exactly the same as Pakistan's on Kashmir. Here's the playbook for the Islamist approach to all conflicts, from Jerusalem to Grozny to Baghdad to Srinagar:

First shift the debate from terrorism, kidnapping and torture by reminding us of "the root cause." This is always Jewish/Russian/American/Indian perfidy. It is never anything remotely related to a religion that nurtures a sense of grievance in its followers and openly celebrates violence. The strategy's actually quite brilliant because Muslims, with their culture of guilt, point all blame outwards. Meanwhile, self-loathing liberal Jews, Americans, Hindus and Russians--with their culture of shame--are always blaming themselves.

Step two involves CAIR, MCB and other special pleaders for the Islamist cause who step in and play the role of "moderates" to extract concessions from the infidels. It works like a charm every time, and there's no equivalent in the Muslim world because they're brainwashed from birth to believe themselves superior and anyone with a contrary opinion soon finds his head separated from his torso.

99 truthteller  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 9:50:01am

#98 PIMF

I meant Muslims with their culture of shame and liberal Jews, Americans, Russians and Indians with their culture of guilt.

100 zakistan  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 9:56:31am

My letter to them:

Dear sir,

Now that you have printed a column by Ismail Haniyeh of the terrorist group Hamas, I am wondering when you will publish an Ayman al-Zawahiri or Osama Bin Laden column.

Sincerely,

My name

101 Athos  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 10:06:33am

#97 Big Al

It's like publishing an op-ed by Hitler in 1938.

I disgree, it's like publishing an op-ed by Himmler / Heydrich in 1942 to justify their actions.

This isn't pre-war - this is during the war.

102 truthteller  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 10:11:33am

#100 zakistan

Nice letter. Of course, it's the same double standard that makes the NYT, the AP and others call Shamil Basayev a warlord, rebel, guerilla, or insurgent, anything but a mass-murdering terrorist. Hamas only kills Jews (or mostly) so its leaders are fit to be invited into the halls of civilized discourse. The ironic part is that despite this you'll only see Islamists foaming about the zionist controlled media, of which they cite the Washington Post as a prominent example. They simply can't fully comprehend how most Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus and others don't view everything through the prism of faith and are "disloyal" to their co-religionists every day. Do that in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or Egypt (or, of course, London) and your head and torso might become distant acquaintances.

103 Cavy  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 10:13:57am

Editorial thought process....

Editorial bad for Bush .... print it

Editorial also bad for USA ... print it anyway because it's bad for Bush

Editorial Good for Islamists print it

Editorial Bad for Islamists Don't print it .. don't want to offend anyone ... besides it's good for Bush

104 Fran2  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 10:22:01am

An interesting take on this at [Link: thisongoingwar.blogspot.com...]

Perhaps it's unreasonable to ask distant consumers of news reports to choose sides. But it surely is reasonable to ask those distant consumers of news reports to believe the claims each side makes about itself. Hamas is saying, and Reuters is helping them say it, that they want to punish Israelis. Let's believe them. For them, this is about a huge chip on the collective shoulder. Or if you prefer (i.e. if you're gullible enough), about resentment that Israel is trying to steal the Palestinians' election result. That's a state of mind that most of us know cannot be easily displaced. How do you resolve it? How do you answer it? How do you even discuss it?
For Israel's part, it's saying we keep catching bad people - terrorists - in the act, and we're ready to do everything we need to do to stop them. If that's not what government has to do, who needs government?

105 Big Al  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 11:30:05am

#101 Athos

Touché, I stand corrected.

106 mardukhai  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 11:30:33am

85 lawhawk

I complain about headlines all the time -- I'm a (gulp!) journalist.

And I agree that the headline you don't like is poorly written.

BUT, speaking as a professional, it appears to have the markings not of bias but of "rush to print."

Headline writing is an art form. Editors who write them must conform to the requirements of typesize and fonts so that they fit properly and still make sense.

My guess is the writer was trying to meet a deadline but didn't have room for the word "collapse." But I wouldn't know with any degree of certainty without seeing the printed version of the paper.

107 mardukhai  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 11:31:48am

In re. to my own post #106, as Freud once said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and sometimes a bad headline is just poorly written.

108 RadicalRon  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 11:50:56am
I’d say the Washington Post has hit bottom with this one, but I suspect there’s still a nadir they haven’t reached.

Have no fear, Charles, the Washington Post will further prove the chief tenet of Moonbat Theology: Upon reaching the furthest depths of thine hole, keep thee digging.

Doing so hastely with mad, furious and great vigor. The Party of Capitulation is dependent upon the fruits of thy harvest.

109 Yankee Doodler  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 12:36:53pm

I'm glad WaPo published this mawkish piece of rubbish--as an over the top parody of leftist moral equivocation, it's a work of art. I want all of my liberal friends to read this and face themselves in its mirror.

110 Lion of Zion  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 12:54:59pm

These arabs are such a bunch of cry-babys ,the story is very simple ,both people want these land , we wanted to share but the arabs refused and wanted to fight...we fought.. they lost.. now its ours..end of story.
gaza sucks we dont want it, but judia and samaria (west bank?whats that?) arent occupied ,theyre conquered that means its ours now ...so stop your crying ..they should be lucky we are nice people and let them stay and live here enjoying democracy and clean water ...

111 mattm  Tue, Jul 11, 2006 8:00:53pm

From the MSM? Why is this supposed to suprize me?


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