I posted the Christian population of Lebanon in an earlier post. 43%.

here we all come, I hope

#1 Allah al Fubar
Not to appear stupid but...what are the others?

Is there anyone here that feels (like I do) that Israel's response so far is too muted?

Sorry, no one has developed a 100% effective Mullah sensor. Given that, keep your head down until you can find a real country to live in.

I hope that the Christian Lebanese percentage in Lebonan would to 88%. With most of the muslims fleeing to Syria.

Bring back the Phalange.

Go johnny go go go

President Bush:
Support Israel with money, weapons, and, if need be, troops!

Attack Syria from Iraq if they send troops to Lebanon...
hey, wait a minute...
was that the plan all along?
Michael Moore?
Babs Streisand?
anyone?

God Bless you my Christian brother.

The true god will take care of His own.

And God Bless Israel.

All this bombing of strategic targets is wonderful, but when are they going to bomb the terrorists' bunkers? When are they going to go in and eliminate the missiles? When are they going to kill the terrorists?

It is impossible to have a significant impact, let alone win the war, without these steps.

Hold on there, trooper. The IDF means business this time.

Please free our beloved tortured country from these crazed mullah-followers.

Do me next.

Israel has no fight with such Lebanese Christians. They too have suffered at the hands of the allahpigs. I fear that some will die in this fight and I am truly as sorry for that as I am for the Jews that will die defending Israel by annihilating hizbollox. The 'brave' terrorists first and foremost retreat into civilian areas rather than stand and fight.

I pray that Israel hits hard and hits fast. I suspect that ground troops will have to reoccupy S Lebanon in order to execute the islamopig terrorists - all of them. Israel should not occupy such land longer than is necessary for civilised Lebanese to take over government and prevent the allahpigs from regaining any future position of military or political power.

I have a dear friend in Beirut who is Christian, he and his family are trying to figure how to get out. I wish I was very rich to help them. I'm keeping in touch with them via SMS and voice calls. Praying for all Christians in Beirut.

Lebanon is a victim in this, too. Israel should be striking at Syria.

Well, Israel does need to take out the missiles, but should be destroying infrastructure in Syria rather than Lebanon.

Keep an eye on things, folks, I'm sure the fun is yet to begin! Hopefully, the IDF will be able to liberate Lebanon, blow the pigshit out of the Syrians, and do whatever they damn well please against ANY Iranian retaliation.

And, hopefully our US government won't turn their backs on the Israilis during all of this.

#3 J.D.
From the CIA World Factbook RE: Lebanon

Religions:

Muslim 59.7% (Shi'a, Sunni, Druze, Isma'ilite, Alawite or Nusayri), Christian 39% (Maronite Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Melkite Catholic, Armenian Orthodox, Syrian Catholic, Armenian Catholic, Syrian Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Chaldean, Assyrian, Copt, Protestant), other 1.3%
note: 17 religious sects recognized

Here is the LINK to the site.

Amen to that!

#4 Liz Ard

Yes. There must be zero tolerance for terrorist nations. I'm encouraged that Lebanese Christians are speaking out in favor of Israel saving them from the jihad.

#3 I believe there were about 54% other. Nonetheless, I believe we have all heard of the plight of the Lebanese Christians. Sorry, couldn't find my original post from earlier today.

I agree. Please, Israel, do the job once and for all. The MSM will squeal but the people of the ME and US will applaud.

Religions:
Muslim 59.7% (Shi'a, Sunni, Druze, Isma'ilite, Alawite or Nusayri), Christian 39% (Maronite Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Melkite Catholic, Armenian Orthodox, Syrian Catholic, Armenian Catholic, Syrian Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Chaldean, Assyrian, Copt, Protestant), other 1.3%
note: 17 religious sects recognized

OK there it is..

#20 wee fury
Thank you very much!

I know...knew one guy from Lebanon who was Greek Orthodox. Hmmm. I don't know where he is.

I hope that Bush and Rice don't listen to their State Department advisors. They're trained to deal in compromise, and there's no way Lebanon can be free from these thugs through compromise.

Support Israel! There is no way we should ever ask them to stop; they want their people back, and they should get them. And that will, definitely, break Hizballah.

Stratfor.com is sending out an interesting analysis of the situation to free subscribers.

Unfortunately you have to subscribe to read it.

I would have posted the whole thing on my web site for HP regulars to read, but the copywrite notice forbids that.

I can excerpt the main points though:

The more fundamental issue is this: Israel withdrew from Lebanon in order to escape low-intensity conflict. If Hezbollah is now going to impose low-intensity conflict on Israel's border, the rationale for withdrawal disappears. It is better for Israel to fight deep in Lebanon than inside Israel. If the rockets are going to fall in Israel proper, then moving into a forward posture has no cost to Israel.

From an international standpoint, the Israelis expect to be condemned. These international condemnations, however, are now having the opposite effect of what is intended. The Israeli view is that they will be condemned regardless of what they do. The differential between the condemnation of reprisal attacks and condemnation of a full invasion is not enough to deter more extreme action. If Israel is going to be attacked anyway, it might as well achieve its goals.

Moreover, an invasion of Hezbollah-held territory aligns Israel with the United States. U.S. intelligence has been extremely concerned about the growing activity of Hezbollah, and U.S. relations with Iran are not good. Lebanon is the center of gravity of Hezbollah, and the destruction of Hezbollah capabilities in Lebanon, particularly the command structure, would cripple Hezbollah operations globally in the near future. The United States would very much like to see that happen, but cannot do it itself. Moreover, an Israeli action would enrage the Islamic world, but it would also drive home the limits of Iranian power. Once again, Iran would have dropped Lebanon in the grease, and not been hurt itself. The lesson of Hezbollah would not be lost on the Iraqi Shia -- or so the Bush administration would hope.

Therefore, this is one Israeli action that benefits the United States, and thus helps the immediate situation as well as long-term geopolitical alignments. It realigns the United States and Israel. This also argues that any invasion must be devastating to Hezbollah. It must go deep. It must occupy temporarily. It must shatter Hezbollah.

At this point, the Israelis appear to be unrolling a war plan in this direction. They have blockaded the Lebanese coast. Israeli aircraft are attacking what air power there is in Lebanon, and have attacked Hezbollah and other key command-and-control infrastructure. It would follow that the Israelis will now concentrate on destroying Hezbollah -- and Lebanese -- communications capabilities and attacking munitions dumps, vehicle sites, rocket-storage areas and so forth.

...

Given the blockade and what appears to be the shape of the airstrikes, it seems to us at the moment the Israelis are planning to go fairly deep into Lebanon. The logical first step is a move to the Litani River in southern Lebanon. But given the missile attacks on Haifa, they will go farther, not only to attack launcher sites, but to get rid of weapons caches. This means a move deep into the Bekaa Valley, the seat of Hezbollah power and the location of plants and facilities. Such a penetration would leave Israeli forces' left flank open, so a move into Bekaa would likely be accompanied by attacks to the west. It would bring the Israelis close to Beirut again.

...

At the same time, Israel does not intend to get bogged down in Lebanon again. It will want to go in, wreak havoc, withdraw. That means it will go deeper and faster, and be more devastating, than if it were planning a long-term occupation. It will go in to liquidate Hezbollah and then leave. True, this is no final solution, but for the Israelis, there are no final solutions.
...

#3 JD

From the online CIA Factbook on Lebanon:

Muslim 59.7% (Shi'a, Sunni, Druze, Isma'ilite, Alawite or Nusayri)

Christian 39% (Maronite Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Melkite Catholic, Armenian Orthodox, Syrian Catholic, Armenian Catholic, Syrian Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Chaldean, Assyrian, Copt, Protestant)

Other 1.3%

It's days like this when the genius of Pajamas Media shines through - my finger hurts from scrolling!

...

Israeli forces are already in Lebanon. Its special forces are inside identifying targets for airstrikes. We expect numerous air attacks over the next 48 hours, as well as reports of firefights in southern Lebanon. We also expect more rocket attacks on Israel.

...

Therefore:

1. Israel cannot tolerate an insurgency on its northern frontier; if there is one, it wants it farther north.

2. It cannot tolerate attacks on Haifa.

3. It cannot endure a crisis of confidence in its military

4. Hezbollah cannot back off of its engagement with Israel.

5. Syria can stop this, but the cost to it stopping it is higher than the cost of letting it go on.

It would appear Israel will invade Lebanon. The global response will be noisy. There will be no substantial international action against Israel. Beirut's tourism and transportation industry, as well as its financial sectors, are very much at risk.

#17 pamela

I have a dear friend in Beirut who is Christian, he and his family are trying to figure how to get out. I wish I was very rich to help them.

So do I. Same sentiments, here.

Lebanon for the ORIGINAL Lebanese - the Maronites and associated groups!

The IDF is gonna roll the clock back to 635 AD!

Ignore the reference to HP. I posted this elsewhere first, but I figured that LGF readers would be interested too.

[Link: stratfor.com...] is listed in LGF's blogroll BTW.

Meanwhile, Koskidz shill for Hezbullah...

U.S. Policy in Lebanon (#1 recommended diary)

For more than half a century, the Israelis have been applying the tactic of massively disproportionate retaliation to every provocative act of resistance attempted by the Palestinians, expecting every time that this would bring peace and security to all the people of the Holy Land. Every single time they have done this this, it has backfired.

See also..
The Children of Lebanon! (w/ photos - be warned)
and...
Bush, Israel, Lebanon, and Armageddon

#15 Jimgoism.

You know what, pal? You are a Bigel. And you make me sick to think that there are people like you that have no heart and no soul whatsoever. Just because Lebanon happens to be located in the middle east (like Israel) doesn't mean that it gives you license to just blatently attack its entire population. There are still many non-moslems habitating the middle east, in case your insolent mind has failed to notice.

In this thread, Charles has posted a plea from folks that are entrenched in a war torn area, due to the acts of idiots from Hizb'allah. And you come spouting your crap about "kill em all". "nukem all".

You just make me sick. I hope you don't have children, because if you do, I'm sure you're teaching them that same treacherous reasoning that you are trying your best to convey.

There.. I "rayra-ized" you. Now step off. You pig.

#13 aRedPhishHead

Hold on there, trooper. The IDF means business this time.

I believe you're correct. I heard an Israeli man call the Hugh Hewitt show today. He said that the pause is due to the calling up of reservists. He also said Hamas in Lebanon doesn't know what's going to hit them. He said his son was already called up and that he would have been if he currently lived in Israel - keep in mind that he's old enough to have a son in the military so he's no 25 year old.

And I agree, hold on dear Lebanese brother! I will pray for the safety of all the good people of Lebanon. And the people of Israel. Stay safe.

Assuming the poster's identity is accurate, this is a sober reminder to those who endorse the nuke'em all and let G*d sort 'em out stratagem, myself included at times.

Thanks for the reminder, Charles.

"Lebanese christian, Damour area"

Damour, I think, is where about 10,000 (literally) Christian Lebanese were killed
in the civil war. The churches were turned into Muslim forts, AAA guns were placed on the roofs,
at least one priest was hanged from a bell rope, etc.

Quite a few Lebanese are victims, but their government is not without culpability either - not only have they permitted Hizbullah to have free run of Southern Lebanon, but Hizbullah has taken over the foreign policy for the country by launching a war from Lebanese territory.

Israel recognizes that to deal with Hizbullah once and for all they must deal with Lebanon as a safe haven, in addition to targets elsewhere.

My final roundup for the day is here (just keep scrolling to the bottom). I'm off to bed, and hope that tomorrow I'll be able to post that the terrorists have had a reckoning and release the Israelis they are currently holding. In the alternative, I hope that it is more likely that I'm going to wake to learn that the Israelis have eliminated Meshaal and Muginyeh. Of course, I expect that Israel will continue hitting targets throughout Lebanon and continue attacking targets up to the Syrian border, Hizbullah will continue firing katuyshas, Hamas will hope that Israel's attention is focused on Hizbullah, and Abbas pops his head out like the whack'a'mole and says don't look at him - it's not his fault.

In any event, I'm hoping for some good news. Too much bad news with all the carnage in Israel today.

Please free our beloved tortured country from these crazed mullah-followers. Free our land from these bloody syrian and iranian agents. we want to live in peace.

Set 'em free by all means! And the french should be ashamed of themselves for siding with the terrorists at the UN - it's now Bastille Day in Europe and the mideast- time to liberate the oppressed!

Da-dum-da-da-da-da-da-DAAA-da-dum...

#38 Allah

Aww shiite.. PIMF.

INHABITATING

That was for you you bigelator freak dog Jimgoinsm. Pig.

Grrr

#15 jimgoism
Get a grip, man.

To everyone who answered my question in #3, thank you.

HaShem be with His people at this time.

Hi,

My homeland is Lebanon, although I live in the US now. I am happy that Israel is making this move. I pray that through divine providence, the lives of the brave Israeli warriors and that of innocents, be spared as much as possible.

I will remember to pray for the rightious tonight. One does not need to see with one's eyes, to believe that our prayers will lighten their heavy load.

Goodnight.

May God use the Nation of Israel to deliver His people in Lebanon from the muslim scum devils. Amen.

#17 I deeply feel for you and the anguish that you (and I) are feeling for the Christians in Lebanon. Maybe there is another way other than money that most of do'nt have.

I know my prayers will be for the IDF and the opressed Christian Lebanese tonight. I pray tomorrow brings good news for them.

Well, I guess now we know what all this was about...

There could not be a better time to take out all of the nuclear facilities in iran, and maybe a few dozen of the main military installations.

On the way, drop a couple on Baby Doofus' palace in damascus.

Israel will clean up the hamas/hezbollah shit-asses, and Iraq will then be able to finish off the iranian sponsored "insurgency".

Piece o' cake.

#48

May God use the Nation of Israel to deliver His people in Lebanon from the muslim scum devils. Amen.

Amen and again, Amen

God be with you, dear brothers and sisters. Be of good courage. God has the very hairs on your head numbered, that's how much He cares for you.

I am praying.

I am guessing that the Lebanese Christians have all been disarmed for the most part. So you can be pretty sure that when it gets hot for the Hezbollah they will move into Christian neighborhoods so that Israel will have to kill innocent would be allies in order to get the terrorists. That's an Islamic tactic (which has just been condoned and encouraged by our own terrroist enabling Supreme Court).

Were they not, I suspect that they'd be prepared to defend their neighborhoods by killing the fleeing Hezbollah cowards.

Please free our beloved tortured country from these crazed mullah-followers.

47 Khouri
Thank you for your post.

#49 ASD

Maybe there is another way other than money that most of do'nt have.

There is another way! Pray! We know who "wins" in the end and it isn't any kind of evil.

53 mama winger
"hugs"
I am so glad to see you. I emailed you a few weeks ago.

Interesting to note the reaction of my Lebanese Christian colleague when I mentioned the airport: "That's in the Muslim section." (No skin off his nose.) Faster, please.

55 FrogMarch

les grenouilles?

Khouri (#47),

It will make you glad to hear what some of your fellows are saying.

Let’s Make A Deal

From the comments:

fuck hezbullah. Every time they decide to consolidate power it sets the country back 20 years.

- -

Completely disagree with your post. We are sick of Hezballah. If we stick behind them now, we will regredt it for ever.

--

Fire all the ministers.
Ask for international assistance to forcefully disarm them
And let's end this now!

--

Israel was under attack from gaza and Lebanon for over a year. When exactly would the "last choice" apply? And why is war never the last choice for the satanists of the Hizbollah and the Gaza Nazis?

--

hell no dead wrong to hell with all this hizbollah swines enough is enough, if you want to go back to dark ages with them good luck my friend, am for lebanon free of this islamic savage beasts!

Read the whole thing.

Many years ago-23 years to be exact. I became friendly with a Lebanonese Christian -he expressed the same sentiment then-still does now.

#35
And Egypt for the Copts. And Persia for the Parsees.

#58 St Pancake

Hello Old Friend!

I did not see your email, sorry. :( Haven't been on the computer much, I'm having some health problems the last couple of months, and haven't had the stamina. Going back into the hospital next week for a few, then maybe as I recover I'll be around more.

Hope you are enjoying your summer break! Good to 'see' you!

The Syrians destroyed Lebanon. It was the Paris of the East. The Jewel. Beirut was an amazing city decades ago. They destroyed this beautiful country of Lebanon a generation ago and they will not be happy until they control it once and for all.

mama winger
Fantastic to see you. Hope the son is fine. I sent cookies over to guys over in Iraq. Lol!

"Cookies of mass destruction"?

#54 Stop Hillary

My friends father was a general in the Lebanese army in the civil war. I hope his "know how" will help his family and others

Mama
Get your health in order too! That's an order. :)

Chrisians for Fair Witness in the Middle East and Camera-look to these sites. They are deep within these controversies.

#68 St Pancake

Spoken like a true teacher - will do!

:)

God bless them indeed. Down here where live, the Lebanese-extraction citizens are solid and compassionate people, mostly Catholic... and they have made St Jude into the fantastic childrens' research hospital that it is.

#64 mama winger

Good to see your nic. I hope all is well with you and your son.

70 mama winger
I am delighted to see you anyway. I hope you are still working at the vet?

The Boston Globe thinks Israel is falling into a trap by defending itself.

[Link: www.boston.com...]

The Lebanese Christians have a tainted past. They stayed in power in Lebanon throughout the 1970's despite becoming a minority by using a proportional representation system based upon a census from 1930, which they refused to update.

Then, instead of uniting to fight the PLO when it came to ruin the country after it was kicked out of Jordan, and then fight Syria when it used the excuse of civil war to send its troops in, they turned most of their murderous fire among themselves, in ruthless factional fighting. Look up the career of Bashir Gemayel, who had risen to the top of the Christian heap before he was suddenly assassinated in 1982.

But the Christians appear to have learned their lesson. Their determination in recent years to throw off the Syrian yoke has shown that, finally, they realize the new danger facing them - the danger of a newly resurgent militant Islam replacing the various Sunni, Shia, and Druze factions of past years. I urge the Lebanese Christians to actually invite the Israelis in to help them clean house of the Hizbullah scum and the remaining baleful Syrian influence.

I have no doubt that there are many worldly Muslims in Lebanon who would prefer that Hizbullah was vanquished and exterminated, but are too cowardly or ineffectual to do anything about it. The fight against Syrian hegemony in recent years, although led by the Christians, had many, many, perhaps a majority, of the country's Muslims behind it too, all those except the ones in Hizbullah's evil tent.

Let the Lebanese and the Israelis vanquish Hizbullah and the Syrians. And then let's see how Lebanon's Christians and Muslims get along. If the remaining Muslims continue to make the country ungovernable, then we will have an ominous sign that Islam has truly turned a dark corner and is not coming back for a long time. If the country becomes what it once was again before 1975, then we will know there is hope for the Islamic world.

#72 Sarah D

Thank you, dear. I've been better, but nothing in comparison to what those poor people in Israel and Lebenon must be going through. How dreadful.

Son is good - no missions in several weeks so things seem to be settling down a bit at least in his region. He spends a lot of time playing video games - kids! :)

The Lebanese have a more favorable opinion of the war on terror and the United States than ANYBODY in the Middle East except Israel. As many have pointed out here already, there is a very significant Christian population in Lebanon.

Hell, the Lebanese admire and like America and Americans more than Germany, France, or even England.

I'd hate to see Israel punish the Lebanese people when the real fight is against Syria and Iran.

I just heard a peon somewhere in Lebanon (Not one of the Christian Lebanese) observe for the cameras that he couldn't wait until Hez(Hiz?...ahhh, who cares) Bollah obtained nuclear weapons so they could be a Real World Power Player. Laughed a while, and then realized that damn, the Iranians could make it happen.

#73 St P

Haven't been working much at all lately, but after my upcoming surgery next week I hope to feel up to going back. I guess I'm getting old. Funny - I feel pretty much like I did when I was 17. Weird how that works.

I am so troubled by this unrest in the Middle East.

#1 Allah al Fubar

I posted the Christian population of Lebanon in an earlier post. 43%.

A hundred years ago Christians comprised 25 percent of the population in the Middle East. Today this is 6 percent.

Fifty years ago Christians were 56 percent of Lebanon's population. Now, as you point out, it's 43 percent.

Before the Partition of India in 1947, Hindus were about 25 percent of the population of the area that became Pakistan. Today it's about 1 percent. (Over the same period the Muslim population of India has grown from about 7 percent to 13 percent.)

You could go on in this vein forever: Turkey, Bangladesh, Egypt, Malaysia it's all a oneway story of non-Muslim decline.

Could this have anything to do with systematic oppression, or at the very least active discrimination, against non-Muslims by their Muslim masters and exploding Muslim birthrates? (Meanwhile look at Muslim populations in France, Britain and the U.S.)

#76 mama winger

Glad to hear that your son is being a son!

I hope that you are on the mend soon.

I've been following the news closely, and feel a sense of "Let's get on with it." in regards to Israel. It's high time the terrorists were brought up on a short leash.

Farid! you say —

"wipe them out , kill their leaders one by one. we want to live in peace with civilized nations."

I'm with you 100%

And maybe this conflict will widen.

And if it does, perhaps we will see the passing of the great evil that islam has become.

I hope.

May the God of Love protect you

Remember what was done in the name of Allah in Sidon, Lebanon.

I'm sure Israel has figured out where Hizbullah gets its support. And, if Israel really wants to end the status quo, it will go after that support.

Which means attacks on Syria and Iran.

79 mama winger
Well, we know that your son, and many others have our backs. For them, we are eternally grateful. :)

#78 tradewind

Why do these people think that getting a nuke (or two, or five) will suddenly make them "world power players"? It's like a cargo cult with these people.

No, it only makes you just dangerous enough to warrant obliteration before you actually get a chance to use it.

ratherdashing
Just saw that. Did not know about that one. Infuriating, isn't it?

I claimed yesterday that many pro-democracy Lebanese would be happy for Israel to purge the land of Hizballah vermin. Nice to see it confirmed. If Israel can thread the needle and spare the Christians as much misery as possible that would be highly desirable.

#61 geepers

Fascinating link. Thanks.

#74,

I think the Globe may be right (shock) in this premise... watching AhmaNutjob getting off a plane today and smacking his lips over ' consequences for Israel ' , I am sure the mullahs ARE lying in wait.

Thing is, they misunderestimate Israel, to their peril.

I hope. This is no time for the IDF to be ordered to go wobbly.

Dunno.
I don't see MSM or non Israeli news site reporting this...

time for truth

...time for

AL Jazeera

fubar ahkbar ! will set you free

or kill you dead

61 Geepers
Excellent linky. Thanks!
Nice to have more insight into the people.

87 St.Pancake
Infuriating, isn't it?

Yep. But I'll choose to be motivated to support those that are trying to make a difference in a tough place.

Time to put paid to all them, Hamas, Fatah (and the host of military wings), Hezbolla, IJ, all of them. Take them apart. And it is being done. The rest of Lebanon has to make a decision now:

1) sit down and shut up while we do this for both of us.

2) Join Us in getting rid the scum and keep your new city.

3) Join Hezbolla, Fight Israel and lose everything.

ratherdashing (#83),

Bonnie Penner was there to actually help people and she is forgotten, while the execrable Rachael Corrie is lionized.

How mixed up is that?

#86,

No one ever accused them of being smart. If they had any common sense, they'd have never bought that story about the 72.

Problem is, we'd probably hear about it first after they used it somewhere. They wouldn't care about what happened after, they'd be soaking up paradise, right?

/sarc /

93 ratherdashing
Agreed. It does strengthen the resolve. It takes a special spirituality to put up with that line of work overseas.
Hope the little dashings are doing well.

hmmm, how to say this...?

...How in the world can we sleep knowing our Lebanese brothers and issters are in danger? any Lebanese reading this, I just don't know how I will sleep for the next several days?

Geepers
Argh! My steam begins to froth when I think about the ironyof this. That Bonnie is worth 50 Rachel Corries, at the very least.

A bit on the lighter side. Can we please have a proper and correct English-translated spelling for "Hizbullah"? Not that I really give a rat's ass about their jihadist bullshit, but I'm getting delusional seeing four or five different interpretations. ;)

#96 tradewind

Yeah, but who wouldn't want 72 raisins?

/Allah Hu Aqmar!

That is why they plunged your country into war without your permission. Hizbollah is a foreign army under the control of Iran and they do not serve the interests of the Lebanese people. You should fight Hizbollah, because they do not care about the interests of the Lebanese people. You have a foreign army within your borders making war in your name, and you ask to embrace them? You should take up arms against Hizbollah and execute them on sight, since they do not fight for Lebanon. They fight for Iran.

methinks this comment is spot on.

Cartman (#89),

Yeah, there some "sick-of-it" folks that are starting to speak ever more loudly now that they're getting out from under the terrorists thumb.

#100,

(Thus the who really cares)... but looking it up, I saw Hezbollah, Hiz'bollah, and a new one (to me), Hebz-Allah.

Doesn't matter, they all suck.

#101,

Yeah, wait til they see George Washington, T Jefferson, and R E Lee as the welcoming committee... they heard wrong, it was 72 Virginians.

St. Pancake (#92),

Excellent linky. Thanks! Nice to have more insight into the people.

The internet's a wondrous thing ain't it?

95 Geepers
How mixed up is that?

Very. The true Christian missionaries stay out of the political problems like they are instructed. From what I've learned of this woman, she just wanted to serve and love people.

For my Christian brothers and sisters in Lebanon, and for the besieged Nation of Israel:

Psalm 91 - Yoshev B'Seter

You who dwell in the shelter of the Most High, who abides in the shadow of the Omnipotent,
I say [to you] of the Lord who is my refuge and my stronghold, my G-d in Whom I trust,
that He will save you from the ensnaring trap, from the destructive pestilence.
He will cover you with His pinions and you will find refuge under His wings; His truth is a shield and an armor.
You will not fear the terror of the night, nor the arrow that flies by day,
the pestilence that prowls in the darkness, nor the destruction that ravages at noon.
A thousand may fall, at your [left] side, and ten thousand at your right, but it shall not reach you.
You need only look with your eyes, and you will see the retribution of the wicked.
Because you [have said,] "The Lord is my shelter," and you have made the Most High your haven,
no evil will befall you, no plague will come near your tent.
For He will instruct His angels in your behalf, to guard you in all your ways.

Our ally needs us we should join israel and start bombing syria and iran now. We either fight them now or later when their stronger.

105 Geepers
Yes, the Net can do some very good things at times.

Truthteller wrote:

Fifty years ago Christians were 56 percent of Lebanon's population. Now, as you point out, it's 43 percent.

The Christian Lebanese have been steadily evacuating for years. Many people saw the writing on the wall. Others have chosen to stay in the Christian enclaves.

Imagine the difficulties associated with maintaining a Democracy when half of the population is not all that interested.

#61 & 105 Geepers

Thanks for that link. Been reading amid all the brouhaha. Among others so far, this one stuck out at me:

So now your hearts will be with your brothers? And who are your brothers? The same animals who caused this on your country? The same animals who wanted all other militias to disarm, except for themselves? I've been a reader of your blog since the beginning, I've been an enthousiastic supporter of your "orange revolution", I've been on of the few in my country who said that not all Arabs are the same, that Lebanese are different because a year ago they managed to bring to the streets a milion people to protest not Israel or the USA, but Syria. Now you've disappointed me greatly, once again you propose to unite and support "your brothers". I'm very sorry and sad in saying this, but with your fear, with your contorted and backward mindset, you've called upon yourselves and your country the righteous and unstoppable rage of Israel. Your government is fully responsible, and your country is an enemy now.

Noam Sayin' (#111),

Yes, there were some pretty strong responses to Mustapha's suggested "deal".

Look at the latest post:

Mustapha,
You are not in a position to make a deal with Hezbollah. You are a hostage; you are the human shield behind which Hezbolla hides while it calculated provokes this war in order to divert attention from Iran's manufacture of nukes.

You are the expendable pawn sacrificed to divert attention from the Persian side of the board.

Grand deal! As if Hezbollah will honour any deal!

It good to see some people there that really do "get it" as it were.

I rarely post and even more rarely pray, but tonight I post and tonight I pray for our christian and jewish friends in the middle east. May you prevail in this struggle so that one day we who value life shall live in peace.

It's late. Time for me to grab some sack time.

'Night all.

Are any of the mainstream media presenting the viewpoint of the Christian Lebanese who support Israel?

For any of you who don't already know her, Bridget Gabriel is an American-Lebanese Christian who fled Lebanon during the Muslim takeover and she now has an organization dedicated to getting the word out -- American Congress for Truth. Her professional background is journalism. Here is her website:

[Link: www.americancongressfortruth.com...]

#108 Locrian

My opinion is that we just sit back for a minute and let Israel do her thing. It's far too early for us to get more involved. When Iran takes a bigger step into the picture, maybe we'll be needed then...maybe not. Israel's war machine, and the troops that man it, are second to none. They don't need our help just yet. IMHO

I do believe that Israel and the Lebanese Christians can use our prayers right now, though.

#100 Cartman

You'll be sorry you asked...

...though if I was writing a paper for review, I would go with what this guy describes as the "scientific spelling", that being the Oxford Arabic to English transliteration system.

I think we can just go with Fuckwads though, it rolls of the tounge so easily and is much more true to description of the nature and character of the subject than the Arabic for the "Party of G-d".

may god grant strength to the people of Israel and to those in Lebanon with the will and strength to fight Iran and Syria and their proxy army Hezbollah

Clearing Hizbullah and its hangers-on out of Lebanon is the next step in freeing it from Syria. Israel should never have left the south in the first place. Millions, if not billions, will rejoice to hear that Lebanon has been cleaned up of such filth, and that it joins Israel in an alliance against those monsters. Sadly, with such nancy-boy effete ministers as Lebanon currently has, shrieking in terror over their shoulder and "It's not our fault, it's not our fault!" is not the kind of leadership they need right now. The Palestinians and Hizbullah have managed over the years to kill any of the truly patriotic Lebanese leaders, all coincidentally (yeah right!) Christian. I hope someone steps up promptly.

'Nite Geeps

I know that there are plenty of people in Lebanon who want nothing but peace, including peace with Israel. But sometimes it takes a bitter pill before the disease in the body is killed. Or, in this instance, sometimes it takes radical, dangerous surgery.

And let's keep in mind that the Lebanonese are being put up as a meat shield for Iran and Syria.

To all of the good men and women of Lebanon who wish for peace, may God be with you and keep you safe and secure. However, if you go to him, then you will be in His great presence and He has His Will which is beyong man's understanding...

I have a Lebanese friend who was brought up as a Sunni muslim, although I think he is more agnostic these days. At any rate, he can't stand hezbollah. He hates the Syrian and Iranian influence in his country. He's tired of Lebanon being used as a proxy in the struggle against Israel. He'd like nothing more than normalized relations with Israel, and a normal life for his family in Beirut.

So, it's not just Christians who oppose the Hezbollah.

May Odin & Athena help guide the Israelis, and may Thor, Morrigan, and Ares smite their opponets, and may Loki, Lug, and Coyote confound their foes.

Look at this picture ...

Fuel tanks burning at the Beirut international airport after it was attacked by IAF aircraft on Thursday.

Rice is a moron.

Asked in a CNN interview about Rice's call, Israel's ambassador to the U.S. said Israel had exercised restraint since its 2000 withdrawal from Lebanon and believed its military offensive was now the right way to deal with Hezbollah.

Ambassador Daniel Ayalon said: "I think they (Hezbollah) misinterpreted our restraint for the last six years."

"If we do not want to see further escalation, deterioration, violence, this is the time to stop Hizbollah and what we are doing is the most effective (way) to stop them."

Even after 9/11 and all that we've been through since, she still doesn't get it. When the Europeans bastards screech about Israel, that's one thing, but I expect more from the likes of Rice.

Another picture of the fuel tanks.

Ramon suggests Nasrallah is a target

Justice Minister Haim Ramon suggested Thursday that Hizbullah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah was a target for assassination.

"Hizbullah is a target wherever it is located - in Lebanon, in Tripoli, in Beirut, in every place," Ramon told Army Radio. Asked whether Nasrallah was a target, Ramon said, "All those who plan the attacks, all those who allow such terror activities, are also a target."

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Minister Bar-On: Nasrallah issued his own sentence

Interior Minister Ronnie Bar-On told Ynet that Hizbullah's secretary-general, Hassan Nasrallah, "has issued his own sentence. I doubt if he would be able to find a life insurance agent these days."

You know, I've seen pleas like this before I'm getting a little sick of them. Everyone wants America, Israel, and co. to come in and liberate them. Nobody seems to want to actually do anything about it themselves. Hizbullah has been ruling their mini kingdom in southern lebanon for six years now and the Lebanese haven't lifted a finger against them (and permit them to continue operating an HQ in the middle of Beirut).

If they want to be liberated they are going to have to start doing something about it and pulling their weight in this fight.

#128 ibn:

My, my aren't we compassionate?

/not

#129

No need for the sarcasm.

It's easy to sit at home and wait for others to put life and limb in danger (and then be condemned around the world for it) to liberate you.

The Lebanese have done absolutely nothing in the last six years to remove Hizbullah from their midst. I want them free as much as anyone else. I just want them to play a role in their own liberation, something they have heretofore been entirely unwilling to do (at least with regard to the Hizbullah enclave).

#130 ibn Abu;

"I just want them to play a role in their own liberation, something they have heretofore been entirely unwilling to do (at least with regard to the Hizbullah enclave)."

I thought the same thing myself.

Now, today, is the time for the Lebanese who love Lebanon to rise up against the creatures from Syria and Iran.

If they cannot take direct action, then at least help the IDF...point out the nests where Hizbollah lurks.

Regards;

My daughter works with a Lebanese Christian whose parents still live in the Christian section of Beirut. According to her coworker, Hezbollah deliberately entrenches themselves in the Christian areas so if there is retaliation, guess who gets hurt.

They're evil, but they're not completely stupid.

ladycatnip:

"According to her coworker, Hezbollah deliberately entrenches themselves in the Christian areas so if there is retaliation, guess who gets hurt.

They're evil, but they're not completely stupid"

Perhaps, but when the IDF gunships appear and the Hizzies take cover, that's when the Lebanese should toss a grenade (or four) into the proper flat.

Regards;