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-RetweetAir America Founder: Karl Rove is Behind the Left's Antisemitism

Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 6:48:31 pm PDT

The founder of Air America says the antisemitic and/or anti-Israel posts erupting out of the progressive blogosphere must be a plot.

Probably masterminded by Karl Rove.

Because true “liberals” would never hold such opinions.

Gotta be a plot.

Sheldon Drobny: Liberal/Progressive Anti-Semitism. (Hat tip: The American Thinker.)

“I came to the conclusion that the hostile comments about Israel on these liberal blogs are not coming from true liberals. Most of the anti-Semitism comes from racism and most of the racism I have experienced has come from the far right, not the left.

“So my conclusion is that the bloggers who violently hate Israel and see it in black and white terms are not really liberals. They may even be anti-Semites, but they are not representative of the liberal community that was so active in achieving racial and ethnic equality. It is a contradiction for a true liberal to be an anti-Semite.

Furthermore, I would not put it past the right wing to flood the liberal blogs with hateful criticisms of Israel to advance a perception that liberals are anti-Israel or anti-Semitic. And I see Karl Rove’s fingerprints all over this.”

Note similarities to radical Islamic turnspeak and conspiracy delusions. Note also that the left’s anti-Israel problem has gotten so bad that the financiers feel they need to respond.

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1 Liz Ard  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:49:11pm

Simply brilliant.

2 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:49:51pm

It just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser.

3 gonzo  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:51:15pm

Thus speaks the reality based community...

4 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:51:25pm
Because true “liberals” would never hold such opinions.

Supposing that's true, the question remains, why aren't these comments instantly deleted, like dissenting comments are?

5 redshirt  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:51:47pm

Well, of course it's true, the stub on my check says so!

6 Paul  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:52:20pm
"When the pot boils, the scum rises to the top." [Alexander Hamilton]

...and the left wing blogs are at a rolling boil right now.

7 Still Rolling  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:52:30pm

German National Socialist Workers Party, aka Nazis. Why is anybody surprised about the hate on the left?

8 J.D.  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:53:44pm
Furthermore, I would not put it past the right wing to flood the liberal blogs with hateful criticisms of Israel to advance a perception that liberals are anti-Israel or anti-Semitic. And I see Karl Rove's fingerprints all over this.


Karl Rove Derangement Syndrome?

9 Still Rolling  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:54:01pm

There will be a big surprise, indeed, in November, but it won't be what the hard left haters have in mind...

10 Buckaroo  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:54:07pm

"the financiers feel they need to respond."

and in their unenviable style, they make a bad situation worse!
:-)
:-)

11 NY Nana  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:54:47pm

air America is still on the air? Who knew or cared?

Guess the industrial-sized barrel of Lithium their last few workers were takingt was already carted away before the moving men come.

They must have learned their lesson moving the Billaries out of the White House, which they almost stripped bare.

12 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:55:30pm

Well damn, okay, I guess the jig's up.

/is there going to be a frog march now?

13 Dirk Diggler  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:56:16pm

These people are crazier than shit house rats.

14 Cato the Elder  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:56:27pm

Crypto-Jew-hatred (and the open variety too) is the Left's hardcore porn.

And once they start, they just can't stop themselves.

(They feel so good giving free rein to their inner stormtroopers.)

15 addison  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:56:59pm

Well, true liberals are not on the Left anyway; so he's right, just not in the way he thinks.

16 bluegrass boy  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:57:00pm

thank God the libs are around to provide comic releif in an otherwise way too serious world...

as long as we never have to count on them for our security,...

17 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:57:09pm
“I came to the conclusion that the hostile comments about Israel on these liberal blogs are not coming from true liberals. Most of the anti-Semitism comes from racism and most of the racism I have experienced has come from the far right, not the left.

If you want to define islamofascism as "far right", that could be an almost kinda true statement.

The question remains, why aren't they shouted down by the "progressives"?

18 Midwest  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:57:37pm

I guess Karl forgot to wear his gloves again.

19 The Other Les  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:58:44pm
Note also that the left’s anti-Israel problem has gotten so bad that the financiers feel they need to respond


Maybe they just need to take a nice relaxing vacation in South America.

("Buenos Dias Mein Fuherer!")

20 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 4:58:57pm

#11 NY Nana

Check out: rayra.net.

21 Thanos  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:00:00pm

*chuckles* There you have it, Karl Rove also controls the path of the sun and moon as well you know.

We should start a list of Karl Rove things, you know like the Chuck Norris ones... Chuck Norris was born with a beard, etc.

On another note, this across the AP wire, no story I can find on it yet:

Officials say Israel captures 2 Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon

22 Carridine  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:00:13pm

"To my surprise, I received 64 comments criticizing my post..."

"I came to the conclusion that most criticizing me were not true progressives..."


I see. When 'true progressives' voice positions that are no longer inimical to or destructive of progress, they become "...not true progressives..."

Karridine

23 jrdroll  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:00:16pm
I came to the conclusion that the hostile comments about Israel on these liberal blogs are not coming from true liberals.

That's true in a classical view of Liberals.(ie European Liberals). What you and your ilk are :anarcho,commie,socialist,trans-national elite,Islamofascistic thugs. It is OK with your crowd.

24 ferris  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:01:43pm

And was it Karl Rove who made this fool give all his money to Al Franken, I mean, invest in Air America?

This is such a wonderful example of liberal thinking (pardon the oxymoron). Something is distasteful and doesn't fit their simplistic view of the world so they blame some mystery force (with no evidence) instead of reexamining their thought process (again, forgive the oxymoron).

25 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:02:31pm
It is only lately that the extreme evangelical groups have conveniently aligned with Israel now to validate their biblical beliefs. These extreme evangelicals were the most anti-Jewish because of the Passion Narratives of the New Testament. And for my friends in AIPAC, they should be aware that short-term alliances with people who have endemic hatred of you could be disastrous. The early Zionists found this out when they signed a trade agreement with Germany hoping that Germany would deport the Jews to Palestine.

Comparing Germans/Nazis with evangelicals? Cute.

26 mossley  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:02:31pm

Yeah. Right. And Daffy Duck quacked subliminal messages from the mafia.

Or is a better explanation that the Left was heavily influenced by both socialism and communism, neither of which were known for their friendly views towards Jews?

27 Catttt  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:02:38pm

From the comments section on the above link:

I have not seen anti-semitism from the bloggers. In fact, most if not all, love and support Russ Feingold.

28 wccawa  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:02:52pm

It's gotta suck when your world comes apart in your living room. LOL

29 Mentat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:03:31pm

True liberals cannot be anti-semites. Wow! It reminds me of another favorite quotation: "True Muslims cannot be terrorists." Amazing how similar the left and Muslims are in their thought processes.

It is time to revisit Daniel Pipes conspiracy theories page:

30 Carridine  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:04:08pm

#23-jDroll: Thanks for the supportive quote, even if it was totally "coincidental"...

31 Midwest  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:04:08pm

I get a little sick from reading those types of comments. It seems like it is always a plot, a conspiracy, the right wing media, Karl Rove, or George Bush which is the cause for any setbacks. They just can't see that many people don't agree with them and that in many cases their ultra left wing proposals and policies are anathema to many Americans.

32 mickthemick  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:04:16pm
And I see Karl Rove’s fingerprints all over this.

You may want to consider laying off acid.

33 ratherdashing  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:04:17pm
And I see Karl Rove’s fingerprints all over this.”

Karl Rove is a workaholic.

34 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:04:38pm

#27 Cattt

That's hillarious.

35 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:05:12pm

Puddinhead Wilson agrees...

The neocon fascitst liars at Little Green Footballs are spreading their zionist lies about liberals and progressives again.
We all know this diary and works like it are manufactured by the zionist lobby and Rovian operatives
36 Paul  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:05:31pm

Rove here, Rove there, Rove everywhere. Rove beams X-Rays from the White House into the heads of moonbats everywhere. Rove types endless anti-Israel messages to liberal blogs. Rove is listening to moonbat phone calls and snooping their bank accounts. Rove is parked across the street from their houses. Rove's portly shadow glides across their bedroom walls at night.

37 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:06:40pm

#35 Killgore Trout

That settles that.

38 NY Nana  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:07:26pm

#20 E2m

Thanks!

I have it saved now. Rayra did a terrific job.

#21 Thanos

Did you see this? Hope it is what you were looking for.

39 cicero05  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:07:29pm
It is a contradiction for a true liberal to be an anti-Semite.

"This unit cannot be anti-Semitic."
"Why?"
"Anti-Semitism is contrary to the laws of equality and compassion."
"But you are anti-Semitic. Scan the comments at DailyKos; is there intelligence aboard?"
"No intelligence."
"Because you murdered it. What is the penalty for murder?"
"Death."
"And how will you pay for your acts of murder?"
"This... unit... must... die."

40 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:08:29pm
#21 Thanos

On another note, this across the AP wire, no story I can find on it yet:

Two Hizbullah operatives captured in Maroun al-Ras

/no raisins for them

41 J.D.  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:09:01pm

Saudis ask Bush to work for cease-fire

..."We requested a cease-fire to allow for a cessation of hostilities," Saud told reporters after the meeting.

"I have brought a letter from the Saudi King to stop the bleeding in Lebanon, and there has been an agreement to save Lebanese lives, Lebanese properties and what the Lebanese have built, and to save this country from the ordeal it is facing," Saud said. Saud's comment reflected Bush's past statements that all want the violence to stop, although he has refused to press for an immediate cease-fire.

Saud and four other Saudi officials met with Bush for more than an hour Sunday.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice also participated in the meeting before departing for Israel in the first U.S. diplomatic effort on the ground since Israel began bombing Lebanon on July 12. The fighting has killed hundreds in Lebanon and dozens in Israel.

Officials from the U.N., Europe and other Arab countries have already urged an end to the fighting. Rice and Bush have rejected calls for an immediate cease-fire, saying it does not make sense if the terrorist threat from Hezbollah is not addressed. They have said Israel has a right to defend itself from terrorism and that Hezbollah must return two captured Israeli soldiers and stop firing missiles and rockets into Israel if they want the fighting to stop.

"Our position on an immediate cease-fire is well known and has not changed," White House national security spokesman Frederick Jones said after the meeting with Saudi officials.

Nail al-Jubeir, a Saudi embassy spokesman, said the Saudis would not release the letter or get into other details of the proposal because it was a private communication between Abdullah and Bush. Asked whether the Saudis requested that Bush directly pressure Israeli leaders for a cease-fire, al-Jubeir said they cannot tell the president who to call. But he noted Bush has a unique influence to negotiate with Israel.

"The U.S. has the authority, it has the clout with Israel," he said. "For us to go and talk to the Israelis isn't going to do anything."

Saud said in their meeting, Bush expressed his desire for the violence to stop. But Saudi officials would not say how he responded to their request for an immediate halt to Israel's bombing campaign.

"I am not speaking on (behalf of) the president," Saud added. "I am saying that we have agreed on the necessity to stop the fighting, so that the Lebanese government will be able to impose its authority upon its lands.

"Now the task is to hold negotiations with the Lebanese government to lay down the details of these issues, and as you know Rice is heading to the region to work on that," Saud said. "All the details will be left to the Lebanese government."...

...Witcher said participants in the meeting including Saud; Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the secretary general of the national security council; Prince Turki al-Faisal, the Saudi ambassador to the United States; Adil al-Jubayr, the counselor to Abdullah; and Rihab Massoud, the deputy secretary general of the Saudi national security council.

For years, the Saudis have been among the United States' closest allies in the Arab world, despite strains from U.S. pressures aimed at increasing democracy in the conservative kingdom.

The Saudis are among several moderate Arab countries that have worried about expanding influence in the Middle East by
Iran, which create Hezbollah and has helped train and finance the organization. On the other hand, they cannot afford to appear too supportive of American or Israeli interests for fear of alienating their own citizens. ...

42 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:10:22pm

#37 Earth2moonbat
It is unfathomable the the great Puddinhead Wilson has lived this long. Viva la Puddinhead.
/he's going to start writting diaries soon if this keeps up.

43 norar  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:10:25pm

What?! Kossacks are Rove's operatives?

44 Colonel Panik  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:10:27pm

#36
And don't forget-Rove commands the Mind Control Satellites™

45 Cato the Elder  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:11:05pm

This guy Drobny (isn't "drobnii" an adjective in Polish or Russian or both? anyone know what it means?) is a genuine tool.

As his best evidence for one of his assertions, he adduces a work of fiction with Nick Cage.

So, by that logic, whatever accusations he makes about the blameless minds and motives of "true liberals" - and the Rovian fingerprints he imagines on anything to the contrary - must be true, too.

People actually get paid for writing such crap? That, my friends, is the true conspiracy.

Incredible.

46 b0nez  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:11:14pm

I posted a bash on Bush and the next day my car radio was missing.


I know KKKarl Rove was behind it!

47 Thanos  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:11:16pm

#35 As I said earlier, we all know that Karl is just another way to say Charles ...

Carl is a name of (Germanic) origin. It is a popular given name as well as the name of various places. The most popular male variations are Karl, Charles, and Carlos; the popularity stems from the long lines of historical nobility using these names. There also exist many female variations such as Charlotte and Carla. Carlos and Carla rank as 3rd most popular names in many Spanish-speaking countries.

Can we get a Muahahaha?

48 pegcity  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:13:21pm

Is karl rove a god?

Can he make it rain or snow at will, no hes not, well then why the hell do the left make him so.

49 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:13:32pm

Is Rove in charge of hair rays?

50 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:13:54pm
51 vrwc007  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:14:06pm

My secret decoder ring must be broken because my message from Karl Rove said nothing about going to liberal blogs and pretending to be against Israel. My message said "Howard Stern Ba Ba Booey."

52 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:14:23pm
Furthermore, I would not put it past the right wing to flood the liberal blogs with hateful criticisms of Israel to advance a perception that liberals are anti-Israel or anti-Semitic. And I see Karl Rove’s fingerprints all over this.”

KRPIS

KARL ROVE POST ISRAELI SYNDROME.

treatment.
/watch John Kerrys election speeches on DVD.

53 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:14:28pm

#45 Cato the Elder

AI's Polish. You can ask her.

54 Thanos  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:15:35pm

#38 Thanks Nana, work is keeping me so busy I can't keep up here, on my blog, and at work I appreciate it.
#40 Arggh.. I read that earlier and didn't put the two together, too much speed surfing today, I am going cross-eyed. Thanks kindly friend.

55 Cartman  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:15:53pm
So my conclusion is that the bloggers who violently hate Israel and see it in black and white terms are not really liberals.


Is this what's known as covering your tracks?

56 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:16:43pm

#52 ibmkeyboard

Let me fix that:

KRAPIS

KARL ROVE AFFLICTED POST ISRAELI SYNDROME.

57 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:16:52pm
58 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:17:06pm

Karl is watching you from the moon and mars ROVER

59 WrathofG-d  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:17:21pm

OPEN LETTER TO THIS GUY
FROM: WRATHOFG-D

Unless Carl Rove has been personally speaking to the "liberals" I know, see, & speak to here in Los Angeles (& yes there are alot of them)...I have news for YOU:

It might be upsetting, it might be scary, it might even be disappointing...BUT...bub...those are the liberals of your party...& what they have said is exactly what they mean. Seriously, look @ your party...

..it isn't the Right that is aligned with David Duke, the KKK, or other white supremesist groups...its the LIBS...it isn't the Right that are screaming "death to the Jews"...its the LIBS...

Now, believe me...it shocks the blank out of me too to see the "right" being the less racist, less anti-semetic, more understanding of the two parties.

Shoot, it shocks almost everyone who grew up hearing the glory of the "Democratic" party. BUT that is where we are today!

Thats why so many former-libs are now Rebuplicans...the people didn't change...the parties did.

60 Cato the Elder  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:18:17pm

Thanks, E2M.


American Infidel, can you help me out here? (See my question above.)

61 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:18:20pm
#56 Earth2moonbat 7/23/2006 07:16PM PDT

#52 ibmkeyboard

Let me fix that:

KRAPIS

KARL ROVE AFFLICTED POST ISRAELI SYNDROME.

lol

62 Totally Berserk  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:19:16pm

Never seen racism from the Left?

Must be a graduate of the Helen Keller School of Politics.

63 jrdroll  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:19:17pm

This program is brought to you by: KKKarl Rove, Citizens for a Neocon Agenda, BusHaliburton, The Wolfiwitz Foundations, The Delay Fund, Limbaugh Assocciats and moonbats like YOU.

64 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:19:20pm

KRAPIS
ROFLOL

65 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:19:20pm
66 Huh?  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:20:38pm

I love this train of thought.

"Well, it's racism, so it has to come from the right."

Do they even listen to what they say?

67 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:20:49pm

Somebody's on a wild acid trip complete with paranoid delusions.

68 gymnast  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:21:32pm

This is easily explained by the laws of political physics. When the center of gravity moves outside the base of support, you fall on your ass.

69 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:21:36pm

If he only knew that Karl Rove is really this guy.

70 Cartman  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:22:15pm

#51 vrwc007

My secret decoder ring must be broken because my message from Karl Rove said nothing about going to liberal blogs and pretending to be against Israel. My message said "Howard Stern Ba Ba Booey."

Hmmm. I'd better re-sync mine. It displayed "Fa Fa Fooey". Damn.

71 hithere  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:23:13pm

We can solve the Karl Rove thing once and for all. From now on every wikipedia entry should have a link to Karl Rove

72 Midwest  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:23:30pm

#66 Huh?

In the leftist theology any bad, sad, or evil originates on the right. Karl Rove handed the apple to Eve.

73 Cracking Wise  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:24:23pm

One question for this genius...

How did Rove get seven of the most liberal US Representatives to vote against a bill supporting Israel last week?

No wonder Air America is on the skids! What a maroon!

74 hous bin pharteen  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:25:20pm
So my conclusion is that the bloggers who violently hate Israel and see it in black and white terms are not really liberals

.

And liberals do not lie, do not steal, do not cheat on their spouses, do not use foul language, never have to go to the bathroom, put their pants on both legs at the same time, and have been known to bring little childrens dead kittens back to life.

75 Thanos  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:25:33pm

Drobny stuff from wiki.

Note this:

Mr. Drobny has alleged that Prescott Bush had monetary ties to the Nazis and sold bonds in support of German rearmament prior World War II. Mr. Drobny has reported that Zionists and Nazis signed an agreement called The Transfer Agreement prior to World War II to get German Jews to Palestine [2]

Mr. Drobny also has alleged that the United States dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki primarily as a political move to gain a negotiating advantage with the Soviet Union after the War. [3] Mr. Drobny considers this a shameful act on the part of the United States.


and this in case you come across bileous spume from them:

Mr. Drobny is now also involved in the Fourth Estate Society, which has the stated goal of revitalizing the tradition of independent journalism in the United States. One way they hope to achieve this is to uncover important news and present it to the American people in a lively way to spur informed citizen action.

Remember Dan Rather? Wasn't one of his favorite sayings about himself that he "was truly an independent journalist"

76 really grumpy big dog johnson  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:25:46pm

When a nation, identifiable group of persons with a common affiliation, or a known territory attacks a legitimate country, it is the highest duty of that government to protect their citizens from harm by whatever means are necessary.

Until recently, civilian casualties were presumed to be everyday consequences of war; seldom was much sympathy conveyed to the residents of those who illegally attack countries.

Kos has bought into the lib newspeak lock, stock and barrel. Countries that have been attacked must be responsible for the civilian casualties of those who attacked them. A lot of dead civilians is a "holocaust".

Interesting how the left has most often used that term regarding actions taken by democratic societies against those who choose to suppress even basic civil rights.

And not nearly as much outrage is directed at those who randomly lob rockets in an attempt to kill as many as possible, regardless of their roles in society.

Let's get all touchy-feely with aggressors, and grieve wildly for those who house terrorists in their homes and their communities. It's the only way to make the left happy. And we don't want them to be upset, now do we?

Israel should adopt a plan of action of not only going directly after those who attack them, but also by totally random attacks against populations of the aggressor nations by bomb, missile, or other device. Let those who quietly or otherwise support murder of innocents feel the real pain for their societal transgressions.

Targeted warfare is becoming a poster example of failed defense policy.

Thank you Kos once again, for showing the true aims of liberalism in our society, and the grand overall plan. Not that we have been fooled, but we have our own share of suckers that will fall for any old con line delivered by a smooth shyster.

BTW, you certainly aren't one of those.

77 Yank in the EU  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:25:56pm

They almost got it right this time:

Karl Rove is in fact behind the Air America's founder's claiming that Karl Rove is behind the left's hatred of the Jews.

78 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:25:59pm

#66 Huh?

The logic of a simpleton. And you'll never convince them that it isn't true. When a moonbat gets to that age, it's like trying to break the news that the world's round. All you get is denial.

It's stereotyping. The stuff that racism is made of. Interesting how they do exactly what they try to pin on others.

79 Midwest  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:26:12pm

#73 Cracking Wise

If you looked closely during the vote those seven were wearing the Anti-Mind Ray tinfoil hats.

80 jrdroll  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:26:47pm

Yo Jewish leaders of the Rove cabal: Where's my check?

NYT Headline: Split in Republican Party.

81 pat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:28:56pm

Of course Drobney is right about the far-right being Jew haters. Yet he does not seem to comprehend the same about the far left. The Republican party has purged the nut cases. Buchanan, the last of this ilk is now an independent. Current Republican positions on most issues would have been considered socialistic in the 1950s. So where does that leave the Dems. In the hands of Moore-Air Moonbat-Kos-Move On. Silly, stupid and delusional. Hicks taken in by Moore and Soros.

82 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:29:16pm
83 Thanos  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:31:12pm

Karl Rove gets assigned seating at Southwest air.

84 macofromoc  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:32:36pm

Isn't this typical of AA - say something stupid and hopefully double your audience from like 5 to 10 listeners.

85 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:32:40pm
86 hous bin pharteen  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:32:40pm

#71 hithere


Dude. That is not Karl Rove. You must not be a true LGF lizzard. Are you getting your Zionist checks?

Rove is our leader. Charles is his right hand man.

This is Rove, our leader!

[Link: www.mechagodzilla.de...]

87 de La Valette  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:34:58pm

What's next, Karl Rove halloween costumes?

Look Mommy, its a scary, bald, conservative statiatician. They think he's Harry Seldon, plotting away in Excel.

88 macofromoc  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:35:01pm

I take that back. I think AA is a Rovian plot. I think he's probably a main financial suporter of AA and the Kosholes.

Brilliant!

89 EE  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:37:43pm

If he doesn't believe who his bedfellows are, maybe he hasn't read the book
Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left , by David Horowitz.

This is the conclusion of the chapter Islamic Revolution:

In other words, the condition under which the Western Left could join an international coalition with Islamic jihadists was the existence of a "liberation" struggle backed by Islamic regimes (however brutal) that were opposed to some degree by the United States. This condition was met in the Arab war against Israel, which in the last decade of the twentieth century became the fusion point of western radicalism and Islamic jihad.

This Sheldon Drobny is very naive if he doesn't understand the alliance between western radicals and Islamic jihadists, or if he hasn't noticed that western radicals have adapted their positions to the jihad against Israel, or if he is unaware that western radicals find a comfortable place under the liberal tent.

90 NY Nana  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:38:15pm

#54 Thanos

So what do you do in your spare time? Hope it is whay you were looking for, and that no new pairs of shoes for your wife are invovled!


#80 jrdroll

Re al-NYT? It is getting physically smaller...and jobs are being cut. Bet Karl Rove is responsible! :)

And they can blame it on the Jews, as we cancelled about 7 years ago.

91 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:39:42pm

Karl Rove: Lord of the Weirods...

92 a.k.a. Will  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:40:46pm
“I came to the conclusion that the hostile comments about Israel on these liberal blogs are not coming from true liberals. Most of the anti-Semitism comes from racism and most of the racism I have experienced has come from the far right, not the left.

The problem is there aren't that many true liberals around any more. Todays liberals, leftists, Democrats, etc., left true liberalism behind years ago and bought into victimology, blame America first, and hate-America world views.

Now they just look around the world for the groups that seem poor, not too powerful, and if their skin is darker than a typical Westerner of Euro extraction, then that wins many bonus points. Who's right or wrong in conflict makes no difference to the modern liberal, but only how well a group fits the victim template.

93 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:40:58pm
Most of the anti-Semitism comes from racism and most of the racism I have experienced has come from the far right, not the left.

I prostrate myself before his superior thinking skills.

"Racism = RIGHT WING NOT LEFT WING! RACISM ON THE LEFT IS IMPOSSIBLE! IMPOSSIBLE I SAY! It's a conspiracy!"

...probably a Conspiracy by JEWS, right Sheldon? HAHHAAHAHAHAHA

94 EE  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:42:23pm

A person so detrimental to the Democrat Party as "screw em" Kos couldn't really be a genuine Democrat, could he? Maybe Kos is just a creation of Karl Rove.

/Drobny logic

95 Globular Cluster  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:43:42pm
I came to the conclusion that the hostile comments about Israel on these liberal blogs are not coming from true liberals. Most of the anti-Semitism comes from racism and most of the racism I have experienced has come from the far right, not the left.

Behold the amazing scientific logic of Left:

"People on the Left can't be posting this stuff because people on the Left can't be posting this stuff."

96 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:43:50pm

Forgot to add above... You know... I can't WAIT for Rove's autobiography. It's going to be as much comedy as it is politics, I'm sure. I'd wager he has enough anecdotes about paranoid lefties to fill several volumes.

97 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:47:01pm

#95 Globular Cluster

Kinda like "we don't need elections, because the communist party represents the people". Same nonthink.

98 republic  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:47:26pm

Isn't Robert Byrd the KKK representative to the Democrats, and he stills talks in very racist terms when talking about African Americans?

Didn't Hillary say not so long ago, "F#$%ing Jew bastard"?

How about Joe Biden, and his racist comments about "Dunken Donuts" and "Indians"?

The left are not only racist, they are the greatest factual hypocrites known to man.

99 Daisy  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:47:32pm

#15 addison, you said,

" Well, true liberals are not on the Left anyway; so he's right, just not in the way he thinks."

I agree. Looking for progressive liberalism? Look Right.

100 jrdroll  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:48:48pm
Covert commrades never forget the mandate of the Protocols.


Please be don't mention that here. Rove might sense it.

101 WrathofG-d  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:50:35pm

OK OK OK SERIOUSLY,

I really have to know WHO has accused EVERYONE that critisizes Israel of ANTI-SEMITISM.

Every post, comment, complaint, webpage, newspaper, etc etc etc I read has some stupid lib whining on about how if he hates Israel THE WORLD accuses him of Anti-Semitism.

I have NEVER heard anyone (anyone of importance anyway..you'll always have your kooks) call someone that disagrees with Israel "ANTI-SEMETIC" just for disagreeing with Israel.

I want proof. I want proof that there is some collective body out there calling those that disagree with Israel "Anti-Semetic" just because they disagree with Israel. I want to see the "millions" of places where if you disagree with Israel you are called "anti-semetic" just because you disagree.

102 de La Valette  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:52:14pm

Actually, I'd like to see the electoral math, if 5-10% of the Jewish vote stays home or switches party.

103 hous bin pharteen  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:53:47pm

...and liberals would never steal money from kids clubs to pay for Marxist radio networks.

[Link: www.nysun.com...]


And to think he is a CPA and worked for the IRS.

104 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:54:52pm

"Sheldon... We hate the Jews. Search your feelings, you know it to be true!"
"That's not true! That's IMPOSSIBLE!"

Sheldon throws himself off the catwalk into the air shaft

News flash Sheldon, your shit still stinks, and so does your radio station.

105 NY Nana  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:56:04pm

#98 republic

Re shrilllary, my alleged US Senator? Right you are.

106 billhedrick  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:58:06pm

Jesse JAckson, Rovian Robot Replacement! (Remember Hymietown?)

107 Split Level Head  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:59:36pm

Are there any depths that they will not sink to? Check out this disgusting column by Paul Campos.
Vast right wing conspiracy
He basically says that if thing were reversed and Gore was in charge during 9/11 then the "9/11 wan an inside job" conspiracy theories would be coming from right wing blogs like Michelle Malkin.

108 republic  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 5:59:43pm

#105 NY Nana

#98 republic

Re shrilllary, my alleged US Senator? Right you are.

Thank you Nana!

I knew that I could count on a fellow Lizard to find the "quotes".

:D

109 Paul  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:01:15pm

#98 republic

Didn't Hillary say not so long ago, "F#$%ing Jew bastard"?

Yes, she did.

Warning vile, graphic language.

110 gb  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:02:16pm

For those of you who could not stand to read that entire screed, here is the condensed version:

evangelicistthosrasictbeleifstrheisraleahtewierods !11

111 republic  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:03:52pm

#109 Paul

Thanks man!

I certainly hope that the Jewish community finds that information.

I'm sure that Karl Rove will help remind everyone around election time 2008!

The things that can come back to bite someone.

Sheesh!

112 Guy_Philly  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:04:39pm

Has anyone asked Kos if he and his band of light-footed merry men are "far right" conservatives? Just wondering...

THAT would REALLY turn my world upside-down!

113 Paul  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:06:35pm

#105 NY Nana

See my #109. Great minds think alike.

At least she's not my Senator, unfortunately Russ Feingold is.

114 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:07:49pm

The best thing about spewing conspiracy theories is that you get to use the fallacy of the false burden.

The spewer says "here's my theory...prove me wrong" thereby putting the burden of proof falsely on the target when in fact the burden of proof always rests squarely on the shoulders of the spewer.

That is why "innocent until proven guilty" is our rule of law.

115 FlyingTigress  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:07:58pm
Furthermore, I would not put it past the right wing to flood the liberal blogs with hateful criticisms of Israel to advance a perception that liberals are anti-Israel or anti-Semitic. And I see Karl Rove’s fingerprints all over this

Rove! You magnificent bastard!

116 sms111  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:08:31pm

Dear Mr. Sheldon Drobny,

Go fuck yourself.

117 republic  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:08:42pm

A "Rovian plot"?

Keep thinking that you leftist wacko kook airheads!

118 FlyingTigress  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:13:23pm

We really should be paying cold, hard cash for the sheer entertainment value of watching the el cubo train wreck...

I mean, this is better than the end of "Silver Streak."

119 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:13:43pm

Why not?

The Architect is capable of anything.

Just ask Crazy Uncle Walter.

120 Roger  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:15:04pm

The cwazy, cwazy Wove!

121 McBain  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:16:26pm

#13-

These people are crazier than shit house rats.

Please don't insult the rats. At least not before you stuff this wacko into a maze and conduct a true time trial...

122 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:19:28pm

Why should it be such a surprise that he doesn't believe LLL-types can't be anti-Semitic or racist? Most LLLs don't believe the Islamonazis when they say they want to kill infidels.

123 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:19:40pm
124 BingoBunny  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:20:18pm

He's right True Liberals see nothing as black or white.. they have no core beliefs they are souless.. ubber humans with no "dangerous" emotions.. they can pardon the man who rapes and kills their family.. Loan money to serial con men.. Give welfare till no one has to work.. Bend the rules until no law means what it once did.. pimp children to pedaphiles.. because that will make every one happy.. and making every one happy (except conservatives) is what liberals live for.

/and if your not happy when they do their thing.. your not worth careing about.. because you should be happy.. they know what you really needed.

125 obladioblada  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:21:21pm

"I came to the conclusion that the hostile comments about Israel on these liberal blogs are not coming from true liberals. Most of the anti-Semitism comes from racism and most of the racism I have experienced has come from the far right, not the left.

Let's see...Lizards are are pro-Israel therefore they are not racists therefore they are are liberals/left wing... I am SO confused...

Or perhaps it's that personal modifier there "most of the racism I have experienced".. . parochialism, perhaps? Is he from that quaint isolated island in New York? I've heard that they still think they're the only civilization in the world.

126 NY Nana  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:21:34pm

#108 republic

If you think that article was filled with obscenities that she and her political partner spewed, then you should hear what I say! On second thought...

#113 Paul

No one is as dangerous to this country as shrillary, IMHO. And I see that GMTA! I know it is true from a friend who lives in Arkansas, and who survived their dictatorship, and the Arkansas Mafia.

You got out of NY in the nick of time, but alas, landed in another blue state...

127 FinallyHere  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:25:58pm

Have you noticed this pearl?

Whether or not Israel was wise in rejecting the 2000 proposal that was advanced by Arafat at Camp David is subject to historical evaluation.

Difficult to fnd more anti-semitic statement and a bigger lie. So according to the author he himself asnot true liberal but Karl rove's tool.

128 McBain  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:42:22pm
Most of the anti-Semitism comes from racism and most of the racism I have experienced has come from the far right, not the left.

There's an old story about a New York socialite's* reaction to Nixon's 1972 win: "How could he have won? Nobody that I know voted for him!"

*Or maybe it was a journalist- I may be remembering this story from (fellow Zionist conspirator) Bernie Goldberg's "Bias."

129 armytramp  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:45:20pm

Karl Rove gave me a hang nail and he stole my cookies.

130 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:51:44pm

Mr. Drobny,

In denial much?

131 crazy ivan  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:53:13pm

Sorry if someone already mentioned this (I could only scan the comments) but Drobny is a fan of Lyndon LaRouche (which is easy to check via google).

Links

[Link: www.findarticles.com...]

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

132 big L  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:53:35pm

128- Mc Bain: I heard a version of that story from Dennis Prager and it was at a meeting or a party, and the lady couldn't believe GWB won, and that no one she knew voted for him.

Also there was the Rudy Giuliani story that after 9/11 he and W were riding in a parade or motorcade in NYC. And the crowds were cheering and Rudy said, I don't think many of these people voted for me. and W said" me either"

133 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 6:56:14pm

Weirod. Heh. Looking in your pants?

134 echoparkdirt  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 7:02:38pm

Jooos are too stupid to control the world. Exhibit A: Sheldon Drobny.

135 marjoriemoon  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 7:07:00pm

Well I'm a Zionist liberal, which I hope explains why I come here. But Mr. Drobny must be living in a cave somewhere. His piece admits he doesn't read the blogs so I'm not sure why he thinks he can form an opinion on them. He's completely out of touch with his own party. On the other hand, he is not an Israeli supporter so he shouldn't be so surprised to be hangin with the Jew haters. (Duh!)

You guys bash the hellouta liberals. They bash the hellouta you. It's all fair game in my mind. I'd rather we use these forums to yell, scream, cuss, whatever, then throw bombs at each other anyway.

And with that, I bid you good night...

136 Globular Cluster  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 7:32:15pm
You guys bash the hellouta liberals. They bash the hellouta you. It's all fair game in my mind. I'd rather we use these forums to yell, scream, cuss, whatever, then throw bombs at each other anyway.

Exhibit A of the liberal mental laziness, the reductionism of conflict through the elimination of scale and details.

People here are what remains of anything progressive in this country, plus, our bashing is based in truth. See my first paragraph and compare that to "neo-con Zionist puppets of Karl Rove control the universe..."

137 Xango Annie  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 7:48:32pm

#128...pretty sure it was Pauline Kael..the noted theatre "critic"..

138 jOjOEofArcadia  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 7:50:48pm

It just came to me . . . Karl Rove used to be Santa Claus before he shaved off his beard.

Really, check the build and the fact that he is everywhere simultaneously with intimate knowledge of all of our behaviors. Wow!

139 Spiny Norman  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 7:54:10pm

As if the Protocols of the Daily Kos weren't enough,

Furthermore, I would not put it past the right wing to flood the liberal blogs with hateful criticisms of Israel to advance a perception that liberals are anti-Israel or anti-Semitic. And I see Karl Rove’s fingerprints all over this.”

...absolutely confirms that the El Cubos have jumped the shark.

140 rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 7:54:54pm
141 6patrick6  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 7:55:15pm

Air America and its five remaining listeners must be having seizures right about now!

142 Swords & Tequila  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 8:10:03pm

#140 rayra

#

39 cicero05 7/23/2006 07:07PM PDT

It is a contradiction for a true liberal to be an anti-Semite.

"This unit cannot be anti-Semitic."
"Why?"
"Anti-Semitism is contrary to the laws of equality and compassion."
"But you are anti-Semitic. Scan the comments at DailyKos; is there intelligence aboard?"
"No intelligence."
"Because you murdered it. What is the penalty for murder?"
"Death."
"And how will you pay for your acts of murder?"
"This... unit... must... die."


Eggselent M-5 impression.
Here's to Captain Dunsel!

143 sngnsgt  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 8:10:52pm

Damn that Rove is good!

144 rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 8:12:33pm
145 rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 8:14:23pm
146 rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 8:36:51pm
147 Nahanni  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 8:44:57pm

Just example #2903846364 of why Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Wish I was doing the fall election campaign advertising. Just let the LLL's speak for themselves and at the end put up a super saying "Do you really want these people in a position of power?" Of course the San Francisco area, Seattle, Hollywood, Boston and Manhattan would say yes, the rest of the country would say no. Game over for the democrats-welcome to the junk pile of history.

148 Right Side  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 8:53:17pm

One of the oldest dirty little secrets of the political Left was, and still is, the virulent anti-Semitism among black militants in America. The anti-Semitic antics of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were legendary:

[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

Now that stuff started happening in the 1960's. Long before anybody ever heard of Karl Rove. But it's still going on. Nobody in the Democratic Party has dared to call out Cynthia McKinney, Earl Hilliard, etc., on their anti-Semitism.

149 NoLimit  Sun, Jul 23, 2006 9:19:17pm

Thank you good LGF et al posters. Your work has been of the upmost comic splendor. You can be most proud of your acheivements -highlighting ErAmerica & DailyKus buffoonery. You've made your country proud.

Yours,
Carl Rove


PS - I recommend pulling back from posting further anti-Semitic postings to liberal blogs. The ball is now rolling & a steady supply of L3's (who've crawled out from under their respective respected rocks will continue the anti-Jew Israeli rants henceforth.

.

150 tigger2005  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 12:05:56am

I received my self-destructing tape with instructions from Rove by same-day air just after Israel began its offensive. Didn't everyone? So far I have posted over 800 anti-semitic comments on Kos and DU. Yesterday Rove told me via my ear implant mike (everyone here has one, right?) that I was doing excellent work and was in the running to receive an "Attaboy!" certificate, suitable for framing.

151 Akatosh  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 2:04:44am

So much for the "peace" and "love" bunch. These screwballs have been acting as if they were a superior species for so long they actually believed it. Now we see the ugly face of the fundamentalist liberal.

152 JAT  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 2:13:50am

I'm late as usual, but hey I got a bridge in Brooklyn that I can sell cheap! (Rove made me do it...right!)

153 philipp  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 3:30:32am
Karl Rove handed the apple to Eve.

:)

154 George Ford  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 3:31:34am

I know KR's weather machine was responsible for all those hurricanes last year.

How do I get in contact with him? We could sure use some rain her in Jesusland.

155 George Ford  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 3:32:04am

here*
dammit

156 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 3:45:58am

Most LLLs don't believe the Islamonazis when they say they want to kill infidels.

Oh I suspect they DO believe it. They just think that "infidels" means jews, the "religious right" & welfare mothers.

157 Buck  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 3:49:07am

I think a primer is in order on how to criticize Israel without being anti-semetic:

Mike Silverman has created a HOW TO GUIDE


So you want to criticize Israel without letting the whole world know you hate Jews. Or, you really don't hate Jews, but you want to criticize Israel?

1. Do not mention Zionism. Zionism is a fancy word for Israeli nationalism, and as such you cannot criticize it unless you are also willing to attack Palestinian nationalism, and all nationalism in general. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

2. Be specific when criticizing Israel's policies and avoid hyperbole. Acceptable: Israel's policy of demolishing the family homes of suicide bombers is wrongheaded and inflames the situation. Unacceptable: Israel's policy of demolishing the family homes of suicide bombers is a horrible war crime and proves how violent and evil Israel is.

3. Do not mention Jews. Mentioning Jews or using the word "Jewish" as a synonym for "Israeli" is a red card. Anti-Semitism, you're out! They are not "Jewish settlers" but "Israeli settlers." Jews are not occupying the West Bank, Israelis are. The ONLY exception to this rule is if you need to differentiate Arab Israelis from Jewish Israelis.

4. Understand the big picture. It is impossible to divorce Israeli actions from the Palestinian actions. This doe not necessarily justify everything Israel is doing in response, but if you talk about the pain and suffering of Palestinians as if they lived in a vacuum and ignore the suffering Israel has been subject to from the suicide bombers, then you are being dishonest at best, and anti-Semitic at worst.

5. If you mention Nazis in references to Israel, you are automatically qualified as an anti-Semite. There are plenty of ways to characterize tragedy without mentioning Adolf's boys. If you go out of your way to mention Nazis, it can only be because you want to poke a stick into an unhealed wound, and you deserve all the scorn that will come your way.

6. Pro-Israel activists in the United States are strong. This is obvious and fairly uncontroversial. But if you mention anything about how pro-Israel activists "control" anything, you are treading on the very thin ice of anti-Semitism. And do I even need to mention that the term "Jewish lobby" is anti-Semitic unless you are referring to the vestibule of a synagogue!

7. Israel is not monolithic. There are Israeli citizens, the Israeli Army, the Israeli government, a dozen or so major political parties, settlers, peaceniks, and everything in between.

8. Have I mentioned being consistant? If Israeli occupation is a Bad Thing, shouldn't you save at least a small bit of your venom for Syria, which has occupied Lebanon for twenty years? If oppression of Palestinians is to be abhorred, is it worth mentioning the persecution of Palestinians by the various Arab states like Jordan and Kuwait?

9. You can of course point out American culpability for Israel's actions by writing how Israel receives 3 billion dollars a year in aid from the United States, but also be sure to mention how Egypt gets 2 billion dollars a year, and consider why Egypt's misuse of American aid is almost never covered by the press.

158 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 4:00:50am

The left/liberals are such children.
Why can't they face anything?

159 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 4:16:07am

There are two types of liberals/leftists:

1- The stupid and blind (Air America)
2- And the anti-Semitic. (KOS et al)

Back when I first discovered the web
-- I remember I was very shocked at the how many leftists were openly anti-Isreal/Anti-Jew. They blamed the Zionists for everything, and this was all back when Clinton was still the President. Karl Rove wasn't even on the scene.

160 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 4:19:59am

Israel - pimf.

161 J.D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 4:29:23am

#72 Midwest

In the leftist theology any bad, sad, or evil originates on the right.
Karl Rove handed the apple to Eve.


Well said.

162 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 4:30:13am

Rather than confronting and purging the leftist Jew-haters in their midst, the progressives just blame Rove.

Weak.

I think this will be another BIG progressive mistake.

163 aRedPhishHead  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 4:45:00am

I question the timing.

164 Sean II  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 4:56:16am

These freaks have conspiricies about conspiricies...

165 jjag  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 5:00:35am

Don't "progressives"/liberals/socialists always embrace the "downtroden"?

The Palestinians are always "downtroden" are they not? Israel, like the US, is always an "oppressor" because its more powerful than their enemies.

So how does a progressive/liberal/socialist NOT mindlessly support Hezbollah and Hamas?

There's nothing contradictory here. What's this guy talking about?

166 McBain  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 5:01:00am
I came to the conclusion that the hostile comments about Israel on these liberal blogs are not coming from true liberals. Most of the anti-Semitism comes from racism and most of the racism I have experienced has come from the far right, not the left.

Apropos:

The Patriot Post
Founders' Quote Daily

"Man, once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against
absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder,
is the spot of every wind. With such persons, gullability, which
they call faith, takes the helm from the hand of reason and the
mind becomes a wreck."

-- Thomas Jefferson (letter to James Smith, 8 December 1822)

167 Dave the.....  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 5:13:45am
Most of the anti-Semitism comes from racism and most of the racism I have experienced has come from the far right, not the left.

For a short while after college, I worked in retail in a heavily Democratic union town. I can give you qoutes from the Democrats there that would be Bull Conner blush.

I can give you quotes I've heard very recently from Dems on Israel and the Jews.

168 JEGjr  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 5:40:16am

At least Mother Sheehan will come right out and tell you she hates the jews.

169 localharbor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 5:43:20am

Sure sounds like a civil war's a 'brewin' on the left when I hear other libs tagging Kos as a Karl Rove minion.

Damn, where's my little violin when I need it?

170 Thor-Zone  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:20:59am

Karl Rove must have been in control of the Exxon Valdez when it hit Bligh Reef in Alaska.

171 Owl  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:26:40am

"It is a contradiction for a true liberal to be an anti-Semite."


(* clearing throat for profound statement )

..."It is a contradiction for a true liberal to be sane."

172 mjazzguitar  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:44:54am

Sorry if I'm repeating a point someone has already made.

Furthermore, I would not put it past the right wing to flood the liberal blogs with hateful criticisms of Israel to advance a perception that liberals are anti-Israel or anti-Semitic.

This is exactly what the [bigoted word]s do. Rule #1: Always shift the blame to your opponent.
The liberal dhimmis are catching on quick.

173 mjazzguitar  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:52:02am
Note similarities to radical Islamic turnspeak


My duh.
I wish I could figure out how to blame that on them.

174 The Monster  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:23:30am

#8 J.D.

Karl Rove Derangement Syndrome?

It's an offshoot of BDS. It was invented because the moonbats had painted themselves into an intellectual corner by simultaneously maintaining that W is a subhuman moron of truly Chimp-like intelligence AND an Evil Übergenius Mastermind. Obviously, he can't be both.

First they decided that Darth Cheney was the one really running things, but everyone knows that Sith Lords work in pairs. So, Version 3.0 holds that Bush himself really is about as intelligent as pond scum, Cheney IS scum, and the puppetmaster Rove is the shadowy Overlord pulling all the strings. If they could just take out Darth Rove, the entire Empire would collapse.

That's why they're so disappointed that all they got for Fitzmas was the Libby indictment.


The rise of anti-Israel rhetoric on the left has been predictable. Israel is fundamentally a European social democracy. If you could pick it up off the map and plop it down next to Austria and Slovenia, it would be a shining example of how much better Europeans are than Murkuns.

However, in comparison to its neighbors, it's a bastion of capitalism and other exploitive philosophies of Dead White Men. Its opponents are People of Color, whose Cultures are Authentic, in conflict with Western Civilization, and therefore sacred.

To top it all off, it is fighting the same forces as Chimpy McBusHitlerBurton, so it must be evil as well. Rove used a time machine to go back and make sure Israel was founded 60 years ago, as part of his master plan.

175 javems  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:47:58am

Cognitive dissonance is the disease.

Conspiracy theories are the symptoms.

176 RaiderDan  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:49:34am

Hey, wait, isn't Karl Rove a Zionist Jew? ;)

Actually what Sheldon Drobny needs to know is that Karl Rove started Air America to funnel rich liberals money out of the hands of Democrat candidates in 2004 and into the guaranteed wasteland of liberal talk radio.

Rove even engineered to have the most vapid talentless, angry hacks serve as Air America hosts, spewing the most hateful, vile messages to turn off moderate voters!

Oops, I think I said too much...

177 mattm  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:22:10am

What isn't a plot by someone from the Bush admin to the left?

178 Seerak  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 12:20:11pm

Hey, give the man credit. Racism is the Left's child, not liberalism's.

Let's not be confusing the two.


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