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Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 8:50:16 pm PDT

And always on the horizon, the double-hulled supertankers.

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1 Catttt  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:51:15pm

I'm glad their double-hulled, Charles.

2 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:51:42pm

One seems to be pulling away from shore, having already off-loaded its cargo -- paid in blood ...


/koslamb

3 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:51:52pm

Battleship

B6

4 massachusetts republican  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:52:16pm

Oil should be used up asap so the arabs cant have it forever. Buy an SUV!

5 Duane  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:52:28pm

poor Dixie Chicks, so many empty seats at their concerts:

Dixie Chicks play to half empty arena.

6 Protagonist  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:53:41pm

We were ahead of the curve by talking about this last November, but now, they're airing "The Other Iraq" commercials on US TV. I saw an ad on Fox News this evening.

Kurdistan: The Other Iraq

Almost makes you want to go there for a vacation.

Probably the best PR for our Iraqi campaign I've ever seen. Though it's a little ominous that they seem to be supporting a secession movement. But hopefully, prosperity in Kurdistan will pull the rest of Iraq off its ass.

7 Fiery Red XIII  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:55:13pm

Good pic! Well all, the cobjob I'm looking at as most promising/appealing is with the FL Highway Patrol.

[Link: www.fhp.state.fl.us...]

I love Dodge Stealths, I finally own 1, and ironically, I had no idea they had 1 when I decided to apply there. It makes no input to my descision, but that is a badass squad!

Gnite and God bless all!

Red

8 Just Another Four-Letter Word  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:55:22pm

Where are the offshore drilling platforms?

JAFLW

9 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:55:22pm

To "By The Sea"

Buy the SUV
buy the SUV
buy the great big SUV
for you and me
you and me

10 Fiery Red XIII  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:57:03pm

#7...copjob, not cobjob

Red

11 Just Another Four-Letter Word  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:57:13pm

#3 Amalie:

MISS

JAFLW

/E7

12 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:57:56pm

Oh, thank the Lord, the Kos segment is over. I've never heard so much bullshit.

13 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:58:49pm

11 JAFLW

HIT!

:D

14 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:58:50pm

Palestinians: 'Day of rage' against Rice visit

Palestinians are calling for a general strike in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip to protest US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's visit to the region scheduled for later this week, accusing Washington of backing Israel's military campaigns against Hamas and Hizbullah.

Leaflets distributed in the West Bank and Gaza by representatives of several Palestinian factions called for a "day of rage" [a euphemism for violent protests] against Rice's visit. The groups also called on Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to refrain from meeting with Rice.

OH, STFU already. You want the world to notice you? Trying acting rationally. It would be a nice change. The "rage" thing is getting tiresome and we're about done with it and you.

15 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 6:59:00pm

no tankers for oil!

16 mich-again  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:00:12pm

YOY would you anyone watch that? I don't get it. Whats the point?

17 Just Another Four-Letter Word  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:00:24pm

Amalie:

;P

JAFLW

18 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:00:46pm

14 Kragar

So they won't be doing any suicide bombing that day?

/they said they were going on strike

19 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:01:16pm

#5 Duane

Hope the Dixie Skanks enjoy their career on PBS.

Ha Ha!

20 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:02:07pm

#16 mich-again

Know thine enemy!

21 jrdroll  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:02:07pm
Though it's a little ominous that they seem to be supporting a secession movement

Yea the Kurds fight the Turks, Shia and Arabs.
Oh the ottoman empire.

22 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:02:15pm

Ward

Hi Ward!

Did you see my post about how the UN has been on peacekeeping mission in Lebanon since 1978!

23 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:03:17pm

A 12 Epsilon
3D Battleship, Hawaii style.

24 fluffy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:03:26pm

#19 Ward Cleaver

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark.

25 Bob's Kid  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:03:43pm

I sat on the beach at Point Reyes for hours on Saturday and didn't see a single supertanker.

Rats.

26 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:04:14pm

#4 massachusetts republican

Like I said earlier today, I'll rejoice when the Saudis cap their last well. The way they burn through money, they'll be broke in no time.

27 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:04:54pm

#7 fieryred

Good pic! Well all, the cobjob I'm looking at as most promising/appealing is with the FL Highway Patrol.

Awww, damn. Just what I need, another gung-ho state trooper lookin' to hand out paper.

28 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:04:57pm

#22 Amalie

Yes I did. Hi sweetie.

29 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:05:29pm

The little Supertankers that could...

30 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:05:58pm

AAARRRGGGHHH!

Tomorrow night on Nightline? Man bags!

A friend of mine calls them f*g bags.

31 solomonpanting  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:07:00pm
#14 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)
Palestinians: 'Day of rage' against Rice visit

Palestinians are calling for a general strike in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip

'On strike' from what, their very productive jobs?

32 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:07:32pm

#24 fluffy

"After the pledge break, more of the Dixie Chicks."

33 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:07:37pm
And always on the horizon, the double-hulled supertankers.

Ahh yes...Bringing back all that free oil stolen from Iraq.

34 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:08:13pm

#14 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)

Palestinian strike. Now that is funny right there. These assholes haven't worked since the Turks realized these were permanent welfare cases. Maybe they get Israeli 'unemployment' checks while on strike? And if 'work' stopped in Gaza, who would know? What is the sound of one hand clapping?

35 J.D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:08:57pm

#31 solomonpanting
Imagine the negative economic impact.

36 Bob's Kid  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:09:02pm
Awww, damn. Just what I need, another gung-ho state trooper lookin' to hand out paper.

Hmmm...guess that's saying quite about our Swampwoman's driving habits.

37 steppingrazor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:09:12pm

How about a "Rage Against Rice Krispies" day? We can let Hamas know that Israelis use nanotechnology to make the rice subliminally say "Israel 4-Eva" when doused with milk. You just need to listen really carefully to uncover the fiendish Zionist plot.

38 yehoshua  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:09:39pm

"In Iraq, the Hezbollah-Israel conflict has proved a rallying point for Sunnis and Shiites otherwise riven by sectarian violence."
Makes you wonder what the hell is really going on.
Arabs only make peace with each other at Israel's expense.
Without Israel, Arabs' bloodlust would not abate, but simply change direction.
Arabs worship death and would find soul mates among black magic practioners and other pagans.

39 Bob's Kid  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:11:32pm

Um, that would be quite a bit. I think all this head has addled my brain.

/okay, it was already fairly addled. But it's worse now.

40 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:11:36pm

The good old days of concrete oil tankers

Why did they make a ship out of concrete?

The S.S. Palo Alto was an oil tanker built during World War I on the east side of San Francisco Bay. The loss of many ships to German submarines and the high price of steel combined to make concrete ships feasible. Despite the fact that the construction of the ship went very quickly, World War I ended before the S.S. Palo Alto could be put into service.

The S.S. Palo Alto’s concrete recipe.

The ship was made from cement manufactured in the Santa Cruz Portland Cement company plant in Davenport. The specifications:
1 part Portland cement
2 parts aggregate (1/3 sand; 2/3 gravel)
1 part water

Important dates in the history of the S.S. Palo Alto

1918 – May 19 – ship was christened and launched at Alameda
1918 - November 11– Armistice signed ending World War I
1920 – October 20 – ship is commissioned
1921 – January 2 – First and only voyage under power across San Francisco Bay
1921 - Was towed to moth ball berth at Benicia
1924 - November - Sold for $18,750 to Oliver J. Colson Co., for oil storage
Later sold to Oakland machinery dealer, R.C. Porter
1929 – Sold to Seacliff Amusement Corporation for unknown amount of $
1929 – October 29 – Stock Market Crash
1930 - January 21-22 – Towed from Oakland to Seacliff
1930 - January 25 – Intentionally sunk off the end of pier at Seacliff
1930 - June 21 – Grand opening
1931-32 – Winter storms crack the ship’s hull.
1932 – August – First parcel of beach property acquired by State of California
1936 – February 12 – State of California purchases S.S. Palo Alto for $1.00.
1958 - Foredeck of ship made off-limits to the public
1959 - Ship’s masts are cut down.

41 Bob's Kid  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:12:50pm

Sigh. All this HEAT, not head.

I really need to put some ice on that brain of mine.

42 rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:13:12pm
43 Mr. E. Train  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:14:03pm

Oh, just in case you thought the jew hate was just going on at Kos, here's a bit from DU

[Link: www.democraticunderground.com...]

Israel = Assholes

Jack_Dawson:

The government, anyway.

I'm sorry but why do we unconditionally have Israel's back again?

95% of Lebanon's bridges destroyed.

1/3 of wounded and dead are children.

700,000 Lebanese displaced

aint_no_life_nowhere:

Bombing Ambulances (clearly marked)

Bombing Banks

90%+ of the casualties have been civilian

1,500 sorties flown

20,000 artillery shells fired (on edit - my bad).

Oh that's right - two soldiers were kidnapped by Hezbollah, and Israel has a right to "defend itself".

Look I get that living in Israel isn't easy, but if this conflict has taught me anything, it's an understanding of why Israel is so hated in the Arab world. I didn't really get it before. I'm sure bombing the living fucking daylights out of Lebanon's civilians will lead to world peace.

On edit: Retitled to better express my outrage.


amBushed:
IOW, Israel is being Israel.
Being a bully is all they know

Jack_Dawson:
Well...they do know WWII
but wtf is going on right now I have no idea

AlamoDemoc:
think many of us are now focusing on why we support Israel unilaterally
You are not alone seeing the devastation and indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians in Lebanon.

RethugAssKicker :
And the Ground War begins next week... Stay tuned !
For Arab slaughter and submission Round II.

44 rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:14:09pm
45 Stuck in california  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:14:10pm
I think all this head has addled my brain.

Would me ;-P

46 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:15:01pm

ROFL. Bob's Kid, I'm starting to wonder if you're there all by yourself, or you have distraction in that house.

/One that snores on the La-Z-Boy and hogs the remote control.

47 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:15:45pm

So?

48 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:16:13pm

Beautiful pictures! Please buy a telephoto lens to record the name (or flag) of the vessel.

Each vessel is individual and their name provides a wealth on information.

/reading...travel...etc

49 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:16:30pm

#44 Rayra

Heh. Just the venues where they couldn't give away tickets.

50 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:18:51pm

hee-hee

/pretending I didn't notice...

51 Catttt  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:19:09pm

1 Cattt

They're, dammit. PIMF.

52 solomonpanting  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:19:13pm

#35 J.D.

Nothing from nothing is nothing.

53 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:19:34pm

Hey, Bob's Kid, SwampMan's school starts next week!

/Teenage kids have been hugging him in stores, restaurants, etc. and telling him that they're going to try to get into his class. He tells them how mean he's going to be, but they don't seem to care (or believe it).

54 Bob's Kid  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:20:17pm
ROFL. Bob's Kid, I'm starting to wonder if you're there all by yourself, or you have distraction in that house.

/One that snores on the La-Z-Boy and hogs the remote control.

Don't I just wish. Well...maybe not he La-Z-Boy and the remote, but...

55 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:20:48pm
Dixie Chicks play to half empty arena.

Gee who would've thunk their anti-Americanism wouldn't have played well with the NASCAR crowd?

I should clean my apartment but I'm too lazy.

56 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:22:07pm

Hey! The Dixie Chicks have convictions.

/I keep my place squeaky clean..

57 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:24:15pm
58 Bob's Kid  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:24:56pm
Hey, Bob's Kid, SwampMan's school starts next week!


Oh gosh...I still have 9 more days of summer school!

/Teenage kids have been hugging him in stores, restaurants, etc. and telling him that they're going to try to get into his class. He tells them how mean he's going to be, but they don't seem to care (or believe it).

That NEVER happens to me! I am such a bitch, everyone thinks I am the meanest teacher on campus.

Got a nasty note today from a mom because I told her daughter there was no way she could pass with her grade the way it is now. The mom said I was a terrible teacher for making her daughter feel like she couldn't pass. Ummm...so what should I do? String her along thinking she might be able to pass when I know she couldn't pass if she got 100% on every remaining assignment?

Sheesh. Sometimes it just don't pay enough to even go to work!

59 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:24:56pm

The sailors on those supertankers are known to say "Brandy, you're a fine girl...What a good wife you would be...Yeah your eyes could steal a sailor from the sea"

60 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:25:57pm

59 Dirk

Nooo! That song...

61 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:26:45pm

#40 Amalie

One sunk off Cape May NJ.

Sticks up out of the ocean


[Link: www.sunsetbeachnj.com...]

62 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:27:14pm

59 Dirk Diggler

Damn you straight to heck.

63 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:27:57pm
I keep my place squeaky clean..

What do you want a cookie?

/snarkasm ;-O

64 Bob's Kid  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:28:33pm
Damn you straight to heck.

Yeah--I'm gonna be singing that song in my dreams now...thanks a lot, man.

:)

65 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:28:48pm

#58 Bob's Kid

You need a better class of parents. When one boy cut his finger off in SwampMan's class, his daddy said the boy always did have an attention problem.

66 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:29:12pm

63 Dirk

You remind of someone.. let's see... who is it?

Snidely Whiplash?

67 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:29:14pm

Watching Leno -- has some idiots on -- "main contributor to global warming is CO2...

So tired of the lunacy...

68 jbinnout  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:30:43pm

I think all this head has addled my brain.

Ok... can't resist...

Head on, applied directly to the forhead!~ x3

69 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:30:48pm

Bob's Kid, son gets $65/hr and he never went to college.

/I should have skipped out on college and concentrated on welding.

70 Van Impe  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:31:09pm

#25

I sat on the beach at Point Reyes for hours on Saturday and didn't see a single supertanker.


But you still got enjoy Point Reyes National Seashore, perhaps my favorite place in the world. So consider yourself lucky!

71 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:31:57pm
main contributor to global warming is CO2...

And I always thought it was George Soros.

72 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:31:59pm

#59 Dirk...

Oh god, now we got bad karoke.

I am going for another beer.

Is it only me that these pics of charles remind me of WW2 submarine movies.

73 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:32:34pm

68 JB

Nooo! Now I have that horrible ad in my head...

74 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:32:34pm

Hell, she was probably out there waiting for a tanker to bust open so she could scoop up some oil.

/Those sea birds make real good scoops to get the oil into containers.

75 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:33:49pm

♪ Amalie you're a fine girl...
What a good wife you'd be...
Especially if you cleaned Dirk Diggler's place for free...

(dooda-dit-dooda), (dit-dooda-dit-dooda)♪

76 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:33:57pm

Now if we just had a pirate ship, we could all be rich.

Three oil tankers? Who needs the Spanish treasure fleet.

77 Bob's Kid  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:34:16pm
You need a better class of parents. When one boy cut his finger off in SwampMan's class, his daddy said the boy always did have an attention problem.

Sigh. Not in this state.

We need more people in this world who can do things like welding. And plumbing. And electrical. But do we teach those things in schools? Nooo.

I think all this head has addled my brain.

Ok... can't resist...

Head on, applied directly to the forhead!~ x3

I wouldn't have resisted either.

One o' them days.

78 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:34:28pm

67 christheprofessor

Which explains why back in prehistoric times, we had jungles in Canada and the central US was an ocean. All those dinosaurs with their SUV's and dirty factories.

/wait a sec

79 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:36:54pm

I always dreamed of growing up and marrying a porn star...

80 Bob's Kid  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:37:14pm
But you still got enjoy Point Reyes National Seashore, perhaps my favorite place in the world. So consider yourself lucky!

Oh, I do, every time I visit. It's one of my fav places to go, too!

It's not usually as hot there as it was on Saturday, though--I was surprised by the hordes on the beaches. It was more like SoCal than Point Reyes, which as I am sure you know, is cold and foggy in July as often as not!

81 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:37:16pm

#78 Kragar

I know... Sad, isn't it? Here's a great article that another Lizard posted (wish I could remember who) about it.. Pay particular attention to the graph...

82 red meat conservative  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:38:25pm

From Red Meat Conservative

Major News: PM Olmert announced today that the Islamonazi attacks have not detered him from his plans to surrender the heart of the country to the terrorists and deport 100,000 Jews, eventhough it is clear that the Gaza and Lebanon retreat were the cause of this! Worst of all, he said this in front of a crowd of refugees that he threw out of Gaza. Handing over Judea and Samaria will exacerbate their strategic peril 100 fold. The only explanation is that liberalism is a sick mental disoreder. Olmert must be thrown out immediately! How can one who plans to deport more Jews and create a violent terror state be trusted with the responsibility of fighting the very enemy that he seeks to appease?!

83 solomonpanting  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:38:29pm

#79 Amalie
I always dreamed of growing up and marrying a porn star...

And if you had a male child would he be born pre-hung?

84 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:38:41pm

I think the rabid little anti-semite Kos Kidz need some love in their hearts:


Love is but a song to sing
Fear's the way we die
You can make the mountains ring
Or make the angels cry
Though the bird is on the wing
And you may not know why

Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another
Right now

Some may come and some may go
We shall surely pass
When the one that left us here
Returns for us at last
We are but a moment's sunlight
Fading in the grass

Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another
Right now

If you hear the song I sing
You will understand (listen!)
You hold the key to love and fear
All in your trembling hand
Just one key unlocks them both
It's there at you command

Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another
Right now

...assuming they have hearts?

85 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:39:26pm

#74 SwampWoman

/Those sea birds make real good scoops to get the oil into containers.



They're a bitch to wring out though.

86 jbinnout  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:41:16pm

#73 Amalie

I have been doing some home repairs for an elderly couple in Scottsdale. Every noon she feeds me and we watch Fox news. After seeing that commercial for the umpteenth time, the 83 year old husband said,"They got headon for a head ache, back on for a back ache, what if you have a pain a little lower? What you gonna call it?"

His darling little 78 year old wife looked at him and said "Hardon?"

We laughed till we cried.

87 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:41:22pm

#85 kragar


They're a bitch to wring out though.

Really? One quick wring of the neck works pretty well for my seabirds.

Well, okay, pelicans can be tough.

88 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:41:32pm

79 Amalie

I always dreamed of growing up and marrying a porn star...

Its over-rated.

89 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:42:44pm

87 SwampWoman

Yeah, but the bodies and legs just dont twist right. Hard to get the last drops off them.

90 Globular Cluster  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:42:51pm

Very cool:

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Why Christians must support Israel
JOHN C. HAGEE, THE JERUSALEM POST Jul. 23, 2006

Last week, more than 3,000 Christians representing all 50 states gathered in Washington for a truly historic event.

Without the traditional rally on the Capitol steps or demonstrations that bring Washington traffic to a halt, Christians United for Israel held a banquet saluting the State of Israel and meeting with members of Congress to urge greater support for the Jewish state.

Christians United for Israel, or CUFI, is not a lobbying group; we are a national Christian organization that urges stronger US support for Israel, especially in light of growing international tensions.

Delegates came to Washington at their own expense to exercise their right to meet with members of Congress.

Since its founding in February, CUFI has attracted members at an amazing rate. I believe that is because we perceive Israel to be facing threats of historic proportions.

From Hamas and Hizbullah at its doorstep to the nuclear threat by Iran's president to wipe Israel off the map, Israel confronts graver dangers than at any time since it was founded in May 1948.

IT IS MY view that Christians have a biblical responsibility to support Israel in the face of this aggression, and CUFI is the organization that will allow us to express that support with one strong voice.

Specifically, we will be asking Congress to:

# allow Israel to continue its anti-terrorism operations in the Gaza Strip and elsewhere as long as it deems them necessary. We believe Israel has as much right to pursue and destroy terrorists in Gaza or Lebanon as the United States does in Afghanistan and Iraq;

# avoid putting pressure on Israel to restrain its response against Hamas and Hizbullah;

# pass the Palestinian Anti-Terrorism Act, which prohibits US aid to Hamas until it renounces terrorism and recognizes Israel;

# renew the Iran-Libya Sanctions Act, which would deny Iran the funds it needs to pursue nuclear weapons;

# tell the Bush administration to pressure Iran to stop stalling and accept international incentives for suspending its work on uranium enrichment.

DO WE AGREE with every bit of US policy toward Israel? No, we don't. But we do support the right of a free and democratic State of Israel to make its own decisions about security and borders without pressure from the United States or anyone else.

I cannot speak for others; I can only accept the biblical view that God will bless those who bless the Jewish people.

With that mandate, Christians cannot remain silent while Israel and its people are threatened.

We came to Washington in that spirit.
- JTA

The writer is the founder and senior pastor at the Cornerstone Church of San Antonio, president of John Hagee Ministries and founder and national chairman of Christians United For Israel (www.cufi.org).

91 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:42:59pm

Aw, Kragar.

Were you disappointed in love with your porn star?

92 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:43:05pm

86 JB

LOL LOL... Hysterical!

93 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:43:13pm

christheprofessor

And of course you are aware that in the last 8 years the graph has been flat. And doesn't warming increase water flow into North American rivers? That is generally a good thing (except for New Orleans, which I feel is a failed city with strangely stupid and corrupt leadership).

94 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:43:55pm
I always dreamed of growing up and marrying a porn star...

Its over-rated.

Pay no heed to that man.

95 unclassifiable  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:44:08pm

67 CTP

Howdy!

The Human Lima Bean is checking in.

What do you think about global warming being a precursor to the magnetic poles flipping and or migrating?

/just a thought

96 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:44:17pm

#89 Kragar

Yeah, but the bodies and legs just dont twist right. Hard to get the last drops off them

Oh, dang. I just left 'em on the oily side and used 'em to light up bonfires.

97 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:45:04pm
Yeah, but the bodies and legs just dont twist right. Hard to get the last drops off them.

Are we still talking about porn stars?

98 Kragar (proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:45:09pm

91 SwampWoman

Yup. She'ld come back from work and say, "Honey, I'd love to, but if I see another one today ..."

99 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:45:28pm

Global warming...

...yeah, that's Bush's fault!

100 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:47:21pm

Nightline should have had you on, Charles... Kos was a waste of airtime.

The corporate sponsors of that episode oughta demand a refund.

101 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:47:44pm

#86 jbinnout
God I hate that commercial.(The head on one, the hardon is OK) And that "Tell me oil company..." creeps me out.MUTE. Love the Gecko tho.

102 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:48:20pm

95 unclassifiable

magnetic poles flipping and or migrating?

The Polish are so talented.

103 Mike C.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:48:47pm

# 95 unclassifiable

Unrelated.

104 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:49:58pm

#90,

Personally, I've always thought the 'Bless those who Bless You and Curse those " etc should be incentive enough for anyone ...

but evidently not.

105 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:50:00pm

#93 pat

That wouldn't surprise me... Still -- flat, up or down, one can't say man is causing it...

#95 unclassifiable

Hey! My favorite unclassifiable human lima bean! How the hell are you?

I am nowhere near qualified to judge that... When was the last time the poles changed (if ever?)?

106 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:50:04pm

#98 Kragar

Yup. She'ld come back from work and say, "Honey, I'd love to, but if I see another one today ..."

Ahhh. Good point! (I've seen the mechanics with their cars that never get fixed; guess not getting paid for it kinda tends to discourage a person.)

107 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:51:34pm

#101, pat,

That's funny, because I decided today that I should write those people and let them know that I'd never ever buy any of their products until they pulled that freakin' commercial.

108 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:52:35pm

Damn! (wipes tears) All most of my fave posters are here! Should I open that bottle of wine? ;)

109 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:54:07pm

Chris

Pull that cork..

:D

110 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:54:15pm

#95 unclassifiable

Flipping poles. There was a theory around in the 70's that Ice-Ages caused the phenomenon. But nothing really matches the magnetic evidence. Current theory has the molten core demagnetizing and then re-magnetizing or something like that. Pole flipping does not appear to be associated with mass death(and that is also strange). I know no more.

111 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:54:52pm

Well folks got to call it a night.

Nite Amalie and all the lizardoid minions.

112 Bob's Kid  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:55:01pm
I am nowhere near qualified to judge that... When was the last time the poles changed (if ever?)?

Around 750k years ago or thereabouts.

I'm off to bed. Carry on nobly without me, okay?

113 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:56:32pm

# 108 ctp

To the IDF, may they continue to winnow the ranks of the party of baal ...

SALUD!

114 Mike C.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:56:39pm

# 105 ctp

The magnetic poles have reversed many times. That's what caused that magnetic striping on the seafloors.

115 Da_Beerfreak  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:56:47pm
#26 Ward Cleaver 7/24/2006 09:04PM PDT
#4 massachusetts republican


Like I said earlier today, I'll rejoice when the Saudis cap their last well. The way they burn through money, they'll be broke in no time.

There is more to it than bankruptcy.
They cannot feed their current population without the imported food that oil money buys. Their population is larger than their domestic resources can support.

116 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:57:01pm

111 Dirk

Night Dirk!

Always love to see you...

117 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:58:49pm

#113 Buckaroo 7/24/2006 09:56PM PDT

# 108 ctp

To the IDF, may they continue to winnow the ranks of the party of baal ...

SALUD!

SALUD!

118 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:59:01pm

#113 Buckaroo

To the IDF! (raises glass) Salud!

#114 Mike C.

I admit total igorance on that subject... Thanks for the head up -- never new that. Got any good links (in layman's terms?) for it? I'd appreciate (I am into science...).

119 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:59:31pm

#116 Amalie

SALUD!

120 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 7:59:53pm

#112 Bob's Kid

I'm off to bed. Carry on nobly without me, okay?

I dunno how to do dat. Can I carry on ignobly instead?

121 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:00:11pm

119 Chris

SALUD!

:clink:

122 unclassifiable  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:00:39pm

103 Mike C

I throw it out there because I really do not know. I have read of evidence of the poles migrating and they are currently migrating at an accelerated (albeit slight by human standards) rate. I am interested as to why you dismiss it out of hand.

105 CTP

I am well and catching a very small amount of online time. Maybe I can stay somewhere with reliable connections for a while.

As for the last time the poles flipped -- not sure -- a very long time ago -- researching now. Hopefully I can get back to you on that.

102 Amalie

Great joke ;)

123 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:01:07pm

#108, ctp,

Absolutely! But carefully, because the foil wrapper on that screw cap can give you a nasty cut...
/just kiddin'/

124 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:01:25pm

#114 Mike C.

Again, I am completely ignorant of that stuff...

Does the magnetic striping on the seafloor affect compasses (say, if you were on the ocean) in any appreciable way?

125 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:02:00pm

#113 Buckaroo

To the IDF, may they continue to winnow the ranks of the party of baal ...

Oh, well, I'll raise my lil' medicinal bottle of Jack Daniels to that.

/cough medicine, doncha know.

126 steve  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:02:17pm

Now for something on the light side:

Green Garden Grass Snakes!

Green garden grass snakes can be dangerous. Yes, grass snakes, not rattlesnakes.

A couple in Sweetwater, Texas, had a lot of potted plants, and during a cold snap, the wife was bringing a lot of them indoors to protect them from a possible freeze. It turned out that a little green garden grass snake was hidden in one of the plants, and when it warmed up, it slithered out and the wife saw it go under the sofa. She let out a very loud scream. Her husband, who getting dressed after a shower, ran out into the living room in his boxer shorts to see what the problem was. She told him there was a snake under the sofa. He got down on the floor on his hands and knees to look for it. About that time the family dog came and cold-nosed him on the leg. He thought the snake had bitten him and he fainted. His wife thought he had a heart attack, so she called an ambulance.

The attendants rushed in and loaded him on a stretcher and started carrying him out. About that time, the snake came out from under the sofa. The emergency medical technician saw it and dropped his end of the stretcher. That's when the man broke his leg and why he wound up in the hospital. The wife still had the problem of the snake in the house, so she called on a neighbor man. He volunteered to capture the snake. He armed himself with a rolled-up newspaper and began poking around under the sofa. Soon he decided it was gone and told the woman, who sat down on the sofa in relief. But in relaxing, her hand dangled in between the cushions, where she felt the snake wriggling around. She screamed and fainted, the snake rushed back under the sofa, and the neighbor man, seeing her lying there passed out, tried to use CPR to revive her.

The neighbor's wife, who had just returned from shopping at the grocery store, saw her husband's mouth on the woman's mouth and slammed her husband in the back of the head with a bag of canned goods, knocking him out and cutting his scalp to a point where it needed stitches. An ambulance was again called, and it was determined that the injury required hospitalization. The noise woke the woman from her dead faint and she saw her neighbor lying on the floor with his wife bending over him, so she assumed he had been bitten by the snake. She went into the kitchen, brought back a small bottle of whiskey, and began pouring it down the man's throat. By now the police had arrived. They saw the unconscious man, smelled the whiskey, and assumed that a drunken brawl had occurred. They were about to arrest them all, when the two women tried to explain how it all happened over a little green snake. They called an ambulance, which took away the neighbor and his sobbing wife.

Just then the snake crawled out from under the sofa. One of the policemen drew his revolver and fired at it. He missed the snake and hit the leg of an end table that was on one side of the sofa. The table fell over and the lamp on it shattered, and as the bulb broke, it started a fire in the drapes. The other policeman tried to beat out the flames and fell through the window into the yard on top of the family dog, who, startled, jumped up and raced out into the street, where an oncoming car swerved to avoid hitting the dog and smashed into the parked police car, setting it on fire. Meanwhile, the burning drapes had spread to the walls and the entire house was ablaze.

127 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:03:05pm

Dirk's probably got a movie shoot tommorrow.Get a good nite's sleep etc.

128 steve  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:03:17pm

Continued:


Neighbors had called the fire department, and the arriving fire truck had started raising its ladder as they were halfway down the street. The rising ladder tore out the overhead wires and caused the electricity to go out, and also disconnected the telephones in a ten-square city block area.

Time passed... Both men were discharged from the hospital, the house was rebuilt, the police acquired a new police car, and all was right with the world once again.

About a year later, the couple was watching TV and the weatherman announced a cold snap for that night. The husband asked his wife if she thought they should bring in their plants for the night.

She shot him.

(NOTE: None of this true, so do not pass this along as such, but it sure is funny!)

129 a.k.a. Will  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:03:30pm
#44 rayra 7/24/2006 09:14PM PDT

#5 Duane 7/24/2006 08:52PM PDT
poor Dixie Chicks, so many empty seats at their concerts:

Dixie Chicks play to half empty arena.

LOL!
I thought they cancelled that tour.


They cancelled (they said postponed to make it sound better) most southern and midwestern dates and concentrated on the north and Canada. And they kicked off this tour in London.

130 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:03:40pm

#123 tradewind

Heh. It's gonna take Tin foil to get through this thick skin... ;)

131 unclassifiable  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:06:53pm

126 steve

HFS that's what caused global warming?

I'll be damned.

OK. Nevermind the pole flipping stuff.

132 solomonpanting  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:07:55pm

#126 steve

Reminds me of the story of the husband who climbed on his roof to do repairs with a rope tied to him and tied off to the car's bumper. His wife didn't see the rope and drove off and you can guess the rest.

133 Mike C.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:11:35pm

# 118 ctp

Try Wikipedia first. I mostly find crappy links to bogus stuff. But het - you've got university resources and can probably get easily to better stuff than what you'll find on the ordinary web.

134 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:13:41pm

Did somebody post music?

I could walk across Kansas in a New York minute
Climb the Colorado Rockies in the Fall
Crawl across Arizona like a flat land lizard
If I thought it'd do me any good at all

I could swim Lake Erie with my hands tied behind me
Eat a West Virginia coal miner's shoes
Drink the Mississippi River
If it took a month of Sundays
Just to prove my love to you...

I remember well the first time that I kissed you
‘Cause things ain’t been the same ever since
Got me thinkin’ I could eat a 10-penny nail
And spit out a barbed wire fence
Ain’t another livin’ creature gonna ever come between us
I’d fight lions, snakes, and go-rillas too
If that ain’t enough, I’d start all over
Just to prove my love to you..

I could ride my pony through the eye of a hurricane
Climb Mount Everest on a string
Jump Niagara Falls in a burnin’ barrel
And bring you back the hoops for a ring
Rassle alligators in the Okeefenokee
There’s nothing that I wouldn’t do
If you’d just say the word
I’d catch that great speckled bird
And bring it back to you..

I remember well the first time that I kissed you
‘Cause things ain’t been the same ever since
Got me thinkin’ I could eat a 10-penny nail
And spit out a barbed wire fence
Ain’t another livin’ creature gonna ever come between us
I’d fight lions, snakes, and go-rillas too
If that ain’t enough, I’d start all over
Just to prove my love to you..

135 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:14:30pm

Hezbollah rejects ceasefire plan put forward by United States

See all you peace people, Hezbollah wants Israel to keep kicking their ass!

/go IDF, thin the herd to the point of extinction!

136 river doc  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:15:13pm

Speaking of climate change, wasn't it so nice to see Mann et al. get spanked on their "warmest in 1000 years" allegation? I've never been so happy to see a broken hockey stick.

The summary
The report

Mann et al., misused certain statistical methods in their studies, which inappropriately produce hockey stick
shapes in the temperature history.

137 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:16:09pm

#133 Mike C.

True... I'll check it out (if I think of it)...

138 steve  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:18:13pm

Song Lyrics?

People say we are sane
lock your doors and play the games
out in a constant search of fame
if we tell them of our dreams
some but bright and subtle schemes
others true and honest means
oh you people out there
with your marshmallow wills
your tragic days
and your tranquillizer pills can't you see?
people got to be believed
words have got to be perceived
won't you listen to us please?
maybe to you it's another day
do you want to see the sun
coming up in gray?
tell me what the difference is
between your life and pay
does the fire of your optimism
flare up in the dark?
can you come to me with open arms
and strike the finite spark of love?
could be a case of velleity
on your part my part
or anyone who thinks they see
through a decade an epoch
or maybe even centuries
what do you think could be
your reality?
does your breath go away
for anything you plainly see?
talking to God or going on the nod
or freaking out fancy free
take your time in the morning sun
it lasts for half a day
speak your mind to your only son
if that's what you have to say to him
I know I'm living in utopia
with a strangely cloying
absence of euphoria
and the rapidly increasing senses of dementia
the anticipation in my life
now lends an ear
and I know I gotta choose
gonna win or gonna lose
maybe that's the fear
I only hope that the choice of death
will be mine to make and clear

139 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:18:31pm

Who cares if the poles flip?

/with GPS, does anyone even need a compass anymore?

140 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:18:46pm

#135,

Looks that way, but WHY? Surely they know that militarily, there's just no way this can end well for them. Israel is not the US under Clinton, and will not cut and run.

141 neocon hippie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:22:08pm

What is the link to the Dennis Prager interview of earlier today?

142 Mike C.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:22:09pm

# 122 unclassifiable

For one thing, the time scale of some serious climate changes is substantialy shorter than the time scale of pole reversals. A quick search of the web turns up all sorts of pseudo-scientic speculation, but I sure didn't find anything very solid looking. I suspect you would need to look in better sources, such as the Journal of Geophysical Research, before you got to that stuff. In any case, there have been massive (by human standards) climate changes in all directions since the last pole reversal.

143 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:24:13pm

#141 neocon

There is a thread below that has the link to Pragger's site... I had no luck when I tried it...

144 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:24:51pm

#140 tradewind

Looks that way, but WHY? Surely they know that militarily, there's just no way this can end well for them. Israel is not the US under Clinton, and will not cut and run.

Probably listening to the Europeans. Too bad.

145 Mike C.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:25:04pm

# 124 ctp

I don't know if the sea floor striping affects a normal compass reading, but there are all sort of irregularities in the magnet field, which is one reason you need to set the compass declination to a value appropriate to your location. You can detect the sea floor stiping with survey magnetometers.

146 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:25:13pm

Democrats predict Bolton filibuster

So what?

/even if they amange to block his appointment for the second time, what're the odds they'll go on recess again?

147 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:29:17pm

#145 Mike C.

My car has a magnetic compass, and the owner's manual indicates how it should be set, given where one is (of coures, I knew magnetic north was different from true north, because I was fortunate enough to go to school before the moonbats took over).

That said, I wasn't aware of the bottom striping... Always learn something new here...

148 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:30:54pm

#146 Killian Bundy

Dodds is a notorious braggart, often wrong. He is a drunk who appears sober thru years of practice. His pretensions to insight are, frankly, ludicrous.

149 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:32:10pm
#140 tradewind

Looks that way, but WHY?

Because they're brainwashed from birth that they're moths and Israel is the open flame?

/it's one gigantic, self-perpetuating death cult, even if the estimates are correct that about 10% of the billion+ [bigoted word]s are "radicalized", it's still a huge worldwide problem

150 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:39:24pm

Killian

From Powerline re Bolton. Interesting.

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

151 Irene NYC  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:41:11pm

OT Talk about getting up close and personal.

NBC said that in one incident the Israeli Air Force bombed the home of a bank manager as a warning to other Lebanese bankers not to deal with Hizbullah.

/just love it when people use brains and brawn

152 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:41:52pm

#146 Killian Bundy

Powerline had something to say on that earlier...

153 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:42:53pm

Pat

Damn you! Beat me to the punch...

/just kidding on the "damn you!" part, of course...

154 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:44:12pm

btw the Powerline thing...

I see a nice pic of Ann Coulter there... Can somebody please get her a sandwich!

155 fluffy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:44:18pm

#139 Killian Bundy

I like to hike low-tech. Go easy on those poles, please.

156 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:50:21pm

Didn't mean to run everybody off... :(

157 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:51:44pm

# 156 ctp

Eh, we're just killing the bottle ...
:-)

158 rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:52:34pm
159 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:53:50pm
#155 fluffy

I like to hike low-tech. Go easy on those poles, please.

/can't navigate using the sun and stars, eh?

160 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:54:01pm

#157 Buckaroo

Heh. Dammit, I asked if I should open it, I heard "Yes!", then I was drinkin' alone...

161 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:55:05pm

# 160 ctp

Hey -- we toasted ...
:-)

162 Hucbald  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:56:07pm

I thought the poles had flipped when the compass in my trucks trip computer malfunctioned: East was West and vice versa. I always thought it would be a north/south shift - kinda like Billary carpetbagging in New York State - but no: It seems the Kennedys will move to LA and Schwartzenegger will go to NYC. Creepy.

Fortunately, it was just some firmware corruption and a reset fixed the problem. I thought for sure it was an end-times sign.

/Steven Wright

163 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:56:22pm

158 rayra

Dude! Awesome... ...

164 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:57:29pm
#153 christheprofessor

Damn you! Beat me to the punch...

Your links were to different blog entries.

/both interesting

165 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:57:32pm

I'm here...

Rayra's post:

His buttocks were just so firm...

166 Carridine  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:58:11pm

Liza Droids: I have a meeting in beautiful downtown Bangkok, but I should be back for full participation by about 0400 AM, YOUR time...

Hold the fort!

Karridine

167 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:58:13pm

Buckaroo

We workin' on it... ;)

168 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:58:50pm

I just saw Tom Delay on Neil Kavuto. The camera turns and he is SMILING. How creepy. Can't any politician in this country have a serious discussion without SMILING? If someone in my office did this to me I would call an ambulance and fire them at the same time. (Now laughing out loud is OK. If appropriate)

169 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:59:03pm

Bangkok Dangerous!

170 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:59:41pm

# 146 K B

Uh, IIRC he can't be recess appointed more tham once ...

171 fluffy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 8:59:48pm

#159 Killian Bundy

We get our fair share of clouds here. Actually, I have been meaning to ask my father-in-law to teach me a bit about celestial navigation. He is a retired Coast Officer, so I'm sure he knows a bit.

172 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:01:03pm

#164 Killian

Good catch... My bad... Though I thought the text it would be the same...

Regardless, Bolton rules! (hoists wine)...

173 Geepers  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:01:31pm

It's worse than we thought:

If you’ve ever read the James Bond novel “Moonraker” not the goofy movie you might remember that it begins with M calling Bond into his study to tell Bond that he has just played cards at his club with the director of a European rocketry program, Sir Hugo Drax, and caught him cheating. It freaked him out enough to put Bond on the case, because Drax cheating at cards made him wonder whether Drax was doing something screwy with the rockets as well.

Logically, of course, this proves that Glenn Greenwald is working for SPECTRE.

174 haakondahl  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:01:44pm

I believe that those supertankers, as pictured, are pointed just about at North Korea, given great circle routing. Oh, what a coincidence! Here's my latest post:


Kim Jong Il goes to Washington
  Okay, it's a scenario, and one which I do not relish. That little turd is about thirty years overdue to be strung up by his ankles from a lamp-post. He is certainly not overdue for some Presidential treatment.

But the opportunity presents itself for the President to use the awesome power of his office to make a real change in an otherwise stagnant situation. Kim Jong-Il wants bilateral talks? He wants to sit at the big table? Fine. Bring his ass to Washington.

Put him in a room with W, and let the good times roll. President Bush could tell that dime-store dictator that if he doesn't mend his ways today, there will be Hell to pay tomorrow.

There is an increasing rumble in Congress for the president to tell Kim Jong-Il to calm down or be "calmed". Senator Joe Biden (D) thinks that we should tell him directly, "If you do anything too stupid, we will AN-NI-HIL-ATE you." It is a joy to hear the Senator speak those words--listen on the 16 July 2006 edition of Meet The Press.

Senator Biden and (of all people) Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich are in very close agreement as to what to do with (or to) Kim Jong-Il. Newt: "If you put a missile on the launch pad, we'll take it down, and if you fire ONE ROUND into South Korea, your regime is OVER."

They agree that these are the things which President Bush should be saying to Kim Jong-Il. For added effect, Bush could slap the little bastard on his fat cheek to punctuate each point. What's Kim going to do--call Jan Egeland?

That petty tyrant should depart U.S. soil afraid, angry, ashamed, astonished, and absolutely convinced that every morning he should mumble a bitter "thank you" to President Bush for not having him killed the night before.

The six-party talks have been a kid-gloves evolution designed more to force our slow-footed nominal allies into actually helping than to coerce Kim to do anything. If those talks have been a failure, the answer is not to be even more kid-gloved with the unspeakable horror from beyond the 38th parallel. It is well past time to show this human plague how lucky he was to have been at six-party talks. I now support bilateral talks between America and North Korea, but only with that demonic piece of shit placed firmly into Receive Mode.

Israel isn't taking any crap from the Islamic Party of God; why is America being pushed around by a small man with bad hair? The problem is not that Kim has too little hope--the problem is that he has far too much hope, and the United States is derelict in our duty to remove that hope from him.

175 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:02:25pm

ctp,

Hope the vino was enjoyed...
I had phone call from sister in ER with my nephew having anaphylactic reaction to some Chinese food, so hope you drank mine.

(I saw that Cavuto too and laughed at the headon commercial reference... evidently it's as bad as I think).

176 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:03:03pm

Well, all is good in the world... Just got this e-mail:

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177 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:03:18pm

Charles is going to be on Prager on the local affiliate in afew minutes -- who-hoo!


/shaddup -- it's not my fault I live in the middle of the Pacific and the show is aired delayed ...

178 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:04:01pm

#166 Carridine

I can't help it. It is a compulsion. Forgive me.(Belushi in the Blues Brothers).

"One Night In Bangkok"

Bangkok!
Oriental setting
And the city don't know what the city is getting
The cr�me de la cr�me of the chess world in a
Show with everything but Yul Brynner

Time flies doesn't seem a minute
Since the Tyrolean spa has the chess boys in it
All change dom't you know that when you
Play at this level there's no ordianry venue

It's Iceland or the Philippines or Hastings or this place

One night in Bankok and the worlds's your oyster
The bars are temples but the pearls ain't free
You'll find a god in every golden cloister
And if you're lucky then the god's a she
I can feel an angel sliding up to me

One town is very like another
When you head's down over your pieces brother

Tea girls warm and sweet (warm sweet)
Some are set up in the Somerset Maugham suite
Get Thai'd you're talking to a tourist
Whose every move's among the purest
I get my kicks above the waistline sunshine

One night in Bankok makes a hard man humble
Not much between despair and ecstasy
One night in Bankok an the tough guys tumble
Can't bee to careful with your comapny
I can feel the devil walking next to me

Siam's gotta be the witness
To the ultimate test of cerebral fitness
This grips me more than would a
Muddy old river or reclining Buddha

And thank god I'm only watching the game
Controlling it

I don't see you guys rating
The kind of mate I'm contemplating
I'd let you watch I would invite you
But the queens wee use would not excite you

So you'd better go back to your bars
your temples
your massage parlours

One night in Bankok and the worlds's your oyster
The bars are temples but the pearls ain't free
You'll find a god in every golden cloister
A little flesh a little history
I can feel an angel sliding up to me

One night in Bankok makes a hard man humble
Not much between despair and ecstasy
One night in Bankok an the tough guys tumble
Can't bee to careful with your comapny
I can feel a devil walking next to me

179 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:04:14pm

#175 tradewind

Don't leave us hanging, dude... I assume your nephew's okay?

180 unclassifiable  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:04:28pm

#156 CTP

Have not run off. Just searching for a picture of a Polish gymnast for Amalie.

...not really a lot of that out there.

181 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:10:06pm

#179,

(I wouldn't be here)... still waiting for call back to say if he stays or they get to go home..., she thinks it will be okay, they don't seem too panicked (sister's words). He's done this before once or twice (he's 16).

182 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:10:15pm

Did you guys read/see the story on those two 15 year old Ruskie jugglers? WOW (from the man who reads too much).

183 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:12:46pm
#170 Buckaroo

Uh, IIRC he can't be recess appointed more tham once ...

Well, that would suck, got a linky for that?

/or do I have to look for it?

184 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:13:15pm

#181 tradewind

Surely you are aware that after puberty this condition either gets much better or much worse? I'm sure Amalie or Swampwomen can elucidate.

185 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:13:29pm

#181 tradewind

That's good to hear... Gotta be scary as hell, though. What is he allergic to?

186 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:14:26pm

# 183 K B

From your own link -- "If Bolton is not confirmed, his appointment would expire in the fall."

187 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:15:08pm

#174, re the ronery dictator,

why is America being pushed around by a small man with bad hair?

I think it has a lot to do with his choice of human shields, as in SK.
But yeah, you're right.

188 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:15:25pm

pat ... tradewind

The best course of action would be for the kid to see an allergist...

189 haakondahl  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:17:04pm

#139 Killian Bundy

Who cares if the poles flip?

Actually, the poles are one effect of the molten spinning core (we think). Another effect is the fact that the Earth is not bathed in high-energy radiation thanks to the magnetosphere.

No magnet, no poles, no magnetosphere. I, for one, heartily greet our new W-chromosomal masters!

190 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:18:18pm

#188,

They had to scoot to ER because his throat was swelling up, and he had long ago quit carrying an epi pen... he went through all that allergist thing and it was chicken, but the past few years he had been thought to have outgrown it.

Guess not.

But that's a thought for Kim and Ahmanutjob: wonder if they have any food allergies..

191 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:18:53pm

'God told us to fight Ethiopia'

Mogadishu - Somali Islamist leaders have told protesters on Monday that God had commanded them to fight Ethiopian troops sent to defend the Horn of Africa nation's virtually powerless interim government.

In the latest anti-Ethiopia rally, crowds of mostly young men and a few veiled women gathered at a football stadium in the Islamist-controlled capital. Some protesters set fire to an Ethiopian flag to cries of "God is great!"

/well. I'm pretty sure I know which side the CIA is putting their money on

192 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:21:36pm

158 rayra,

LOL!

And I always thought Fred Phelps would be a skinny, bent, crooked looking guy. Turns out he could blend in at any truck stop, or he looks like any old guy out mowing his lawn on a Saturday. Banality of Evil and all that.

Much respect to the Aussie reporter, who is exceptionally skilled at keeping a straight face and using proper comic timing.

193 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:21:39pm

#189 haakondahl

The poles have flipped before. Bush must have traveled back in time via his Halliburton Time Machine!

194 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:22:48pm
#186 Buckaroo

From your own link -- "If Bolton is not confirmed, his appointment would expire in the fall."

Sure, but then, theoretically, Congress goes on recess again and Bush reapponts him.

/I'll look it up

195 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:24:26pm

#191 Killian

From your link:

An 18-year-old student Fozia Bashir said: "I've never taken part in any war or battle. But, I swear I'm ready to defend my country against Ethiopia."

How sad is that?

196 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:25:06pm

# 194 K B

I don't have a link on hand, but IIRC you can't re-appoint via recess appt. ...

197 unclassifiable  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:25:40pm

Let's face it. The reason NK is still around is because they are China's rabid pit bull.

198 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:25:49pm

RE: Fred Phelps

I imagine Phelps is a latent gay. To prove to himself that he isn't he has chosen this path.

199 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:27:28pm

Pit bulls have been known to turn around and rip their owners to shreds..

200 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:27:40pm

Re: Bolton

Fine, let 'em filibuster. But make it a real filibuster and let us be man enough to hold them to it. Bush has maybe one more Supreme Court nomination left, circumstance willing, let's hold their pansy-ass feet to the fire...

201 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:27:46pm
#189 haakondahl

No magnet, no poles, no magnetosphere. I, for one, heartily greet our new W-chromosomal masters!

So, if the poles flip, is that a bad thing, is there a W chromosome? I took a lot of genetics and I don't recall that, but it was a long time ago.

/I need to know whether we're all doomed or not, I have things to do this week

202 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:27:52pm

#148,

heh... the only ' bruising fight ' that Dodd is capable of mixing it up in is the one he picks with Teddy K at Au Bar over who gets the waitress onto the table first.

203 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:28:28pm

Fred Phelps is a hating loathsome scumbag, his followers are even worse.

204 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:28:43pm

# 198 Am

Now that's just sad ...


/Is he married? Can you imagine waking up with that every day?
:-0

205 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:30:08pm

Buckaroo

Yeah, Phelps is married, his wife was in the video.

206 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:30:58pm

# 205 Am

So, is she just as ugly and bitter?
:-0

207 Salem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:31:53pm

More Fright the Future at Reuters:

Mideast violence may raise odds of US attack: experts

The tenor of this one is as craven and defeatist as can be imagined. Now we're making the muslims REALLY angry, it turns out. Sources include: "some experts", "former officials", "other experts", "they", "one European counterterrorism official", "Michael Scheuer, a former CIA counterterrorism official who ran the agency's bin Laden unit", "some former intelligence officers", "one former U.S. official, who remains up to date on counterterrorism strategy" (who spoke on condition of anonymity), "a US counterterrorism official"...

Well, you get the drift, I trust...

Get this:

Israel's attempt to cripple Hizbollah in Lebanon may have strengthened the Shi'ite organization by winning it fresh political support among moderate Arabs and Muslims, former officials and other experts said.

Well, those wouldn't be moderate Arabs then, would they? And it's curious they use the term "Arab". Hmmm. Wierod...

208 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:31:59pm

#200,

Bolton has gotten pretty popular with the public lately... I bet that enough citizens would write their Sen. urging them to support him so that they'd be wary of nuking him.

And Voinovich has flipped, so I think he'd be confirmed.

209 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:33:14pm
Although the causes of homophobia are unclear, several psychoanalytic explanations have emerged from the idea of homophobia as an anxiety-based phenomenon. One psychoanalytic explanation is that anxiety about the possibility of being or becoming a homosexual may be a major factor in homophobia. For example, de Kuyper (1993) has asserted that homophobia is the result of the remnants of homosexuality in the heterosexual resolution of the Oedipal conflict. Whereas these notions are vague, psychoanalytic theories usually postulate that homophobia is a result of repressed homosexual urges or a form of latent homosexuality. Latent homosexuality can be defined as homosexual arousal which the individual is either unaware of or dent. Psychoanalysts use the concept of repressed or latent homosexuality to explain the emotional malaise and irrational attitudes displayed by some individuals who feel guilty about their erotic interests and struggle to deny and repress homosexual impulses. In fact, West stated, 'when placed in a situation that threatens to excite their own unwanted homosexual thoughts, they overreact with panic or anger." Slaby ( 1994 ) contended that anxiety about homosexuality typically does not occur in individuals who are same-sex oriented, but it usually involves individuals who are ostensibly heterosexual and have difficulty integrating their homosexual feelings or activity. The relationship between homophobia and latent homosexuality has not been empirically investigated and is one of the purposes of the present study.
210 Salem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:33:34pm
211 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:34:17pm

206 Buckaroo

She is just as vile, vicious, and hate filled as Phelps is. His followers are mostly family members.

212 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:35:14pm

#207,

Sure. If we just make nice with the [bigoted word]s, they'll leave us alone, like they have in Britain, Spain,...oh wait.

Nevermind..

Seems like the Bush administration has been busy thwarting 'em...they only have to get lucky once, so that sucks.

Someone should remind the appeaceniks that just because you feed the alligator doesn't mean he won't eat you in the end.

213 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:36:32pm

# 211 Am

Great -- a warped brady family and the LLL media give them air time ...

214 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:36:54pm

This morning I heard an interview where they discussed the Marines in Beirut..

Here was the tone:

So, President Reagan didn't put enough Marines in Beirut?

Answer: That's right, he put either put in too little to fight or too many to sacrifice the way he did...

215 Beagle  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:37:07pm

#212 tradewind

Feeding alligators makes it a near certainty the alligator will become aggressive towards people.

/Florida swamp learnin'

216 haakondahl  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:38:08pm

#187 tradewind

I think it has a lot to do with his choice of human shields, as in SK.

You are quite right. The problem is that we (the world) have surrendered the battlefield to hostage-takers. The result is that now the battlefield is the world itself, and we are losing on all fronts except Iraq and Lebanon. And those are hardly settled issues.

The shittiest end of this thoroughly shitty deal is that the only way out is through a mountain of dead civilians--because we were unwilling to accept a molehill of dead civilians for far too long.

Containment, Appeasement, Rapprochement, Sanctions, Armistice, Sunshine Policy, Engagement, Withdrawal... All for Nothing. Time wasted, opportunities lost.

We have lost decades and allowed hundreds of millions to become hostages, in order not to ruffle the feathers of foul birds we should shoot, not feed.

And the peaceniks who for so long beat the drum against the defense of Democracy should be the first to die--they have killed millions of innocents by disarming those who would disarm evil.

Man, I'm in a mood. If I see a protester this afternoon, you'll see me on the news tonight. "Stubble-headed foreigner goes berserk at peaceful demonstration in Tokyo--locals bewildered, chant for peace".

Sigh.

217 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:38:22pm

#215 Beagle

Feeding alligators makes it a near certainty the alligator will become aggressive towards people.

/Florida swamp learnin'

Uh huh. And Florida construction people ALWAYS feed the gators in the new housing developments.

218 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:38:30pm

# 214 Am

"put in too little to fight or too many to sacrifice the way he did"

"Heads I win, tails you lose!"


/sounds like my ex ...
:-)

219 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:39:02pm

The worst of the offenders on TV are the Lebanese and Syrian "spokespersons."

The Syrians lie and deny any connection to Hezbollah or Iran. Now there is talk of negotiating with the Syrians. What a fucking joke.

220 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:39:14pm

The Last Full Measure

True memorials from patriots. How come we aren't seeing this in the MSM?

221 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:40:00pm
And the peaceniks who for so long beat the drum against the defense of Democracy should be the first to die--they have killed millions of innocents by disarming those who would disarm evil.

Disarm, hell. I think some people really do need killing.

222 unclassifiable  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:40:16pm

158 rayra

You notice how that "he-man" Phelps had to have his women shield him from that reporter?

Maybe they know he can't really control his true feelings?

That was laugh out loud fun.

Thank you.

P.S. His wife is a vidiot.

223 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:40:31pm

Crap, here's the main link.

Oy.

224 Beagle  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:40:43pm

#207 Salem

Yeah, it's a very strange Islamic template the media uses without explanation.

Can you imagine...?

"Today's strike against American troops in Iraq will probably anger moderate Americans. This will make terrorism against mosques and Islamic centers more likely. Poor Americans without jobs feel isolated and may choose to plant bombs on trains..."

225 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:41:05pm

#209 Amalie
Couldn't be that guys acting like girls are just creepy? And vice versa?

/Simpleton tells adults he is sorry for ruining the party. Slinks off to bed.

226 Beagle  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:42:43pm

#217 SwampWoman

And Florida construction people ALWAYS feed the gators in the new housing developments.


Ours all had to be removed after making moves on pets and kids. I saw a ten footer going after a lab which was swimming in a lake.

/stupid Yankees

227 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:42:44pm

216 Haak

Hey... Did you know the UN still has a "peacekeeping" force in Lebanon and that it started in 1978?

Did you know that Syria only disengaged from Lebanon just over a year ago?

Do not blame us for what it happening over there. Hizbollah are agents of Iran and Syria. They are the ones using the Lebanese as their pawns in order to get Israel.

We have stood firm as Israel's ally.

228 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:42:50pm

#216 haakondahl

I said it the other day, in another context:

My thinking is that these leftist asshats see Bush and conservatives as more of a threat to their precious pet liberties (e.g., gay marriage) than the islamofascists are to their very lives. And selfish pricks that they are, they are willing to sacrifice the lives and liberties of countless millions currently under the islamofascist boot, siding with them, as long as they believe it will help bring socialist Democrats back to power in the US.

In other words, they know exactly what is going on -- they just don't care.

229 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:43:59pm

Arab-Americans in Detroit are ticked at how slowly the US has moved to import their Hezbollah sleeper-cell relatives bring their families out of danger in Lebanon:

[Link: today.reuters.com...]

Another one right up there with the Plame/Wilson non suit.

230 haakondahl  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:44:32pm

#201 KB

So, if the poles flip, is that a bad thing, is there a W chromosome? I took a lot of genetics and I don't recall that, but it was a long time ago.

No, but if the poles flip there might be!

231 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:45:13pm

#226 Beagle

Ours all had to be removed after making moves on pets and kids. I saw a ten footer going after a lab which was swimming in a lake.

/stupid Yankees

ROFL. Yep, nothin' gators like better than a dog. And really, gators eat everything smaller than they are. People just need to realize that they and their kids and their dogs are food and maybe they'd treat the water with the suspicion it deserves.

232 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:45:22pm
#196 Buckaroo

I don't have a link on hand, but IIRC you can't re-appoint via recess appt. ...

Are you sure?

Sorry, Senate PDF file, scroll to page six.

The President may make succesive recess appointments of the same or a different individual to a positiion.

/there's a question of full pay though, then again, who wouldn't donate to a fund to pay Bolton in the face of Bonkey opposition?

233 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:45:25pm

Damn those 500 T-72 tanks on the Syrian border make me drool. Nite.

234 SwampWoman  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:47:24pm

'Night, all.

235 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:47:25pm

Nite Pat..

236 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:47:50pm

# 232 K B

link dead ...


But taking your excerpt at face value, it'll be a Merry Christmas then!
:-)

237 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:47:56pm

#217,

We have seen a few full-grown gators recently in the Delta, lazing around in Ole Man River like they were born here.
Theory is they are Katrina refugees.(really).

238 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:48:21pm
No less clear than people’s fondness for the missing towers is the admiration and gratitude they feel for those who worked as rescuers that day, especially the city’s police and firefighters, many of whom headed fearlessly into the burning towers knowing that they might never come out. Many memorials, whatever else they say, take full note of the sacrifices of these rescue workers. The Ground Zero memorial, by contrast, will only scantly acknowledge their heroism, incorporating the insignias of their departments into the work but nothing else.
239 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:49:15pm

#232 Killian Bundy

I'll contribute $1,000 to Mr. Bolton's salary, if needed...

240 pat  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:51:24pm

Chris, I'll double your contribution! /Now I am really gone.

241 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:51:34pm

#238 Sarah

Did I miss something? That's a great quote...

242 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:52:07pm

Nice link, Sarahd

The town of Babylon, Long Island, lost 48 residents that day and wanted to make a place for the many family members and friends of the dead to mourn. So out of the local beachfront, the town carved a one-acre memorial site that includes headstones for all the victims, adorned with photos and words of remembrance from family members. In Brick, New Jersey, the town installed a statue by Brian Hanlon, Angel in Anguish, to remember its nine local victims. The beachfront statue shows an angel weeping over a tableau of the New York City skyline with the Twin Towers still standing and an American flag flying over them. “The sculpture reflects the anguish I feel, but the angel is also a powerful figure, and you feel, looking at it, that after she’s done mourning she’s going to get up and do what has to be done to carry on,” says Jennifer Sands, whose husband died in the Twin Towers. “None of us here in Brick has any remains or gravesites. This is our gravesite.”

243 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:52:26pm

#240 pat

You bastid! ;)

244 fluffy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:52:40pm

#233 pat

Are you now or have you ever been an A-10 pilot?

245 Salem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:52:59pm

Well yeah, I mean these "experts" in the article don't say anything that the man on the street couldn't guess. I suspect that 9 out of ten of the "experts" were named David Morgan, which is the name of the guy who wrote the article. And using the word "Arab"? What are Christian Arabs going to go Jihad on Israel, too? And shia aren't strictly "Arab". are they? The article goes on to suggest that this would be an ideal time for Al Qaeda to strike us, though it hardly elaborates on why. They need to make up their minds. Are moderate muslims terrorists or not? Is there a civil war between sunnis and shia. or not? If so, is it remotely realistic to suppose they unanimously unite in an instant against Isreal? And if that's going to happen eventually, anyway, then why bide our time anymore? What is Mr. Newsgrub's solution?

246 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:53:05pm
Perhaps the most robust and stirring tribute to rescue efforts sits in Pennsauken, New Jersey. Town leaders commissioned artist Brian Hanlon, who specializes in traditional sculpture and comes from a long line of firefighters, to create a life-size tribute to the survivors and the rescue workers who helped save them in a monument titled We Shall Never Forget. The $250,000 memorial boasts five life-size figures, including a dazed stockbroker helped by an emergency medical technician, a policeman, a firefighter, and a rescue dog, set against an 8-by-30-foot polished marble wall, inscribed with a 9/11 timeline. At the statue’s foot, one reads the virtues that we honor in the rescuers: bravery, courage, and compassion.
247 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:53:13pm
#236 Buckaroo

link dead ...

It's a PDF file, although it worked for me.

/try right clicking on the link to download the fiie

248 tradewind  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:53:28pm

Over and out, ya'll.

Go, IDF.

249 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:54:08pm

Just dropped by to post this bit of great news!

Over 70 years old? Then drink up as you will be healthier!


A STUDY of men and women age 70 to 79 found that those who downed one to seven alcoholic drinks a week had a significantly lower risk of heart problems or death than those who did not imbibe, researchers said today.

Why the apparent protective effect exists is not clear, the report from the US Institute on Ageing and the University of Florida said, but it does not appear to be related to speculation that alcohol consumption has an anti-inflammatory effect.

No harm then in starting earlier is there?

250 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:54:40pm

S D
Am


Further proof that as screwed up as NYC is, the surrounding [redder] cities understand that day and what it means ...

251 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:56:15pm

#241 christheprofessor

Here.

252 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:56:47pm
one to seven alcoholic drinks a week had a significantly lower risk of heart problems or death than those who did not imbibe, researchers said today.

Woo-hoo! Oh, wait. That was per week...

Nevermind...

253 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:57:33pm

#242 Amalie

Heartwarming to know that things are being done locally, not just at the big sites.

They really have not been forgotten or politicized.

254 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:58:17pm

Buckaroo

Yes, Buck, they are doing what is right. This whole WTC memorial has been tainted from the very beginning.

Personally I would like to see the site become a huge park and memorial. I know others want to see new trade towers built but for me I believe a place where over 3,000 people were murdered is forever hallow ground.

Time to go..

Night Buck..

255 Beagle  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 9:58:23pm

#245 Salem

That too. The Druse and Christians in Lebanon are not thrilled Israel is pounding the South into little concrete bits, but they're not going to jihad.

And yes, the reflexive Israelophobia - if it exists - makes any solution outside war to completion a pipe dream.

256 BringMeTuri  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:00:15pm

did anyone catch the "metrosexual" Kos on Nightline a few minutes ago?
creeepy...

257 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:00:34pm

#251 Sarah D.

Thanks, a great link...

Never forget...

Did you catch Charles on Prager today? I onlyh caught about the last 10 minutes, but Internet willing, will listen to the rest...

258 Amalie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:00:57pm

253 Sarahd

I agree with you. I cannot imagine how the families must feel. Almost all of the victim's bodies were not retrievable so they have nothing, no coffin, no ashes, and a bunch of squabbling going on at the WTC site.

I hope it gives some of them some peace.

259 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:01:32pm

#257 christheprofessor

I got the last 20 minutes or so. It was a great segment.

260 Beagle  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:02:45pm

#256 BringMeTuri

He's a little bug-eyed creep. But he has the fake political smile nailed.

261 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:03:20pm

#251 Sarah D

Thanks for that link - we don't hear anything about this here - I get my American news from LGF - hard to believe all the money involved at the WTC site with nothing to show for it, as compared to these very moving memorials in the suburbs done with far less

And hi there - hope you've settled in well in your your home!

262 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:04:32pm

#258 Amalie

Worse to me is the site in PA. But it's all bad, political - no one caring about those who died.

Which is why I'm heartened by this article, I had no idea.

263 Beagle  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:05:01pm

Kofi wants to nurse the failure (UNIFIL) along another month. I guess Hiz'b'Allah needs some artillery spotters and guards for their bunkers.

264 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:05:56pm

#258 Amalie

I think it will give all of them some peace...

265 cbinflux  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:06:07pm

Army officer who sued given [HONORABLE] discharge
[Link: www.commercialappeal.com...]

...Stultz "had reviewed the situation and decided that it was in the best interests of the Army and the best interests of the soldier to grant the discharge."
Lt. Gen. James R. Helmly, former Army Reserve chief, issued a directive in 2004 saying that reserve officers who had completed eight years of service could resign if their career fields were at least 80 percent up to strength or if they had served in Iraq, Afghanistan or in a domestic security role since the 2001 terrorist attacks. Officers who demonstrated compelling personal hardships also would be considered, Helmly wrote.
Schwan, who was attending law school then, had served in Bosnia but met none of Helmly's criteria. He was also a military intelligence officer, a position that the Army said was in short supply. He had served six years on active duty before spending two in the Army Reserve.
In an interview on C-SPAN last month, Army Secretary Francis J. Harvey called Helmly's resignation policy "unwise" and said it was under review. Harvey said reserve officers who served eight years or more would be allowed to resign in the "vast, vast majority of cases."

---

Delayed departure
Capt. Bradley E. Schwan had argued that federal law requires military volunteers to serve no more than eight years during their initial terms of service.
Justice Department lawyers argued that officers serve indefinitely, citing a clause in the 1952 Armed Forces Reserve Act that says officer commissions "are for an indefinite term and are held during the pleasure of the president."
Nearly 1,300 reserve officers have sought to resign since 2004. Of those requests, 880 have been approved, according to the Army.

/spit

266 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:06:52pm

#261 aussiemagpie

We don't hear anything here either! I had no idea!

And yes I am, thanks aussie. It's been wonderful.

267 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:08:01pm

it's = it has

PIMF whatever...

268 unclassifiable  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:08:56pm

#228 CTP

It just makes me think that the left is a collection of basically unhappy people who feel that they were dealt a shitty hand in life and that the only way it is going to get better is for the entire system to change.

Pretty self-centered if you ask me.

269 Salem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:09:21pm

Kofi wants to nurse the failure (UNIFIL) along another month. I guess Hiz'b'Allah needs some artillery spotters and guards for their bunkers.

Man, just think, soon that guy is going to be out there, somewhere, running loose. Brrr... Might be more scary for him, though.

270 Beagle  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:10:30pm

Party of Goats talking trash.

"An army that fights with excellent forces and tanks with the assistance of an air force cannot go into a village directly on the border except after a battle that has continued for days with great losses against a number of opposition fighters is a failed and defeated army," read the statement.


Yeah, and America never captured Tarawa. You had six years to dig in, jackass.

271 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:11:31pm

Ooh, CNN ran a five minute segment on Hezzbollah accusatiions that Israel is using the evil white phosphorous, uncluding medical commenttary from Dr, Sanjay Gupta! Less than ten seconds devoted to the fact that Israel totally denies it, not like it's an illegal weapon anyway.

/DRINK!

272 cbinflux  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:11:45pm

#228 ctp
Apathy and laziness (physical as well as intellectual) explains a lot of the USA's ills.

273 Beagle  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:11:57pm

#269 Salem

Kofi knows too much. He might find himself at the wrong end of a non-functioning elevator shaft like Sevan's aunt.

274 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:14:05pm

#268 unclassifiable

I agree... The thing I can't figure is, why do they think their hand was bad? In my experience, virtually every leftist I've known has had every one of life's necessities handed to him/her. Never had to get up in the morning and pull their weight... Not that pulling one's weight in Western Civ. is that bad, but it ain't like having to slaughter the family goat (and kill you three brothers' sex lives) to be able to eat...

275 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:15:12pm
the evil white phosphorous

:.blinking.:

Uh, who gives a damn? Legitimate weapons used in defense of a legitimate country. Case closed.

276 Mike C.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:15:23pm

# 249 aussiemagpie

Where in heck have you been ?

277 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:16:27pm

#272 cbinflux

No argument there...

278 Salem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:18:01pm

Ooh, CNN ran a five minute segment on Hezzbollah accusatiions that Israel is using the evil white phosphorous, uncluding medical commenttary from Dr, Sanjay Gupta! Less than ten seconds devoted to the fact that Israel totally denies it, not like it's an illegal weapon anyway.

Well, they were hoping they wouldn't have to resort to the evil robot spiders that shoot lasers and emit the booming voices of popular cartoon pigs, but what else are they supposed to do now?

279 cbinflux  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:20:21pm

Good idea or brain-dump..?
[Link: www.poopreport.com...]

280 Beagle  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:20:42pm

#278 Salem

but what else are they supposed to do now?


Bring out the Danish Cartoon Cannon!

281 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:21:11pm

#276 Mike C

Hi there! I've been here on the DDT most nights but after you've signed off :-) We keep missing each other

And the last three weeks - well I've been watching the Tour de France which didn't finish till 1.30am

282 unclassifiable  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:21:38pm

274 CTP

It's the abuse of hope.

OK I Know its late and it sounds weird but follow me here.

How may folks have hope? (fine fine fine I see you all raised your hands good good).

Now how many think that hope will take care of everything?

OK Everyone with your hand still up...

YOUR'E A LEFTIST!

283 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:21:51pm
#275 Sarah D.

Uh, who gives a damn?

For some reason, the LLL moonbatici think that using it is some type of war crime.

/they were soiling themselves silly when we used it in Fallujah, not that it hasn't been in the inventory of every modern military for over a hundred years

284 Kaintuck  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:22:26pm

Very early morning, y'all.

285 Salem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:23:25pm

Kofi knows too much. He might find himself at the wrong end of a non-functioning elevator shaft like Sevan's aunt.

And assuming he isn't just some nefarious automaton constructed by one of Hitler's scientists captured by the Russians. They just give him a quick android make-over, and it's back to the U.N. as Secretery General Durka Durka Jihad.

286 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:24:24pm

#279 cbinflux

Can one choose which country to crap on? 'Cause I can think of a couple at least...

And, I'm willing to eat all the fruit, damm what my doctor says, to help!

287 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:24:39pm

Beagle,

Kofi knows too much. He might find himself at the wrong end of a non-functioning elevator shaft like Sevan's aunt.

LOL! I, for one, would be devastated.

288 unclassifiable  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:26:18pm

282

And I'm a dubmass for not being able to punctuate "you're".

Late -- going to bed

Aloha

289 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:27:12pm

#283 Killian Bundy

Killian dear, they think it's a war crime to shoot a jhihadi in the act of sawing a live head off a body. I have ceased to care what the enemy thinks - and the leftists ARE one of the enemies.

I'm intrigued by the argument that we are "all on the same side" when I can go back and read this from the Kerry Blog -

Actually I DO hate Bush and I have to agree with Eminem, strap an AK47 on his back and send him to Iraq, let him impress daddy that way.

Posted by: shrubhater on November 3, 2004 12:50 AM

290 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:28:20pm

unclassifiable

Aloha! Always a pleasure to have you around, my friend...

291 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:30:22pm
292 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:31:07pm
#278 Salem

Well, they were hoping they wouldn't have to resort to the evil robot spiders

You just wait, once Hezzbollah gets backed up against the wall, they'll bring out the spiders, mark my words.

/fortunately, our spiders are vastly, technologically superior

293 unclassifiable  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:32:48pm

279 cbinflux & 286 CTP

I'm so conflicted.

There are countries I want to bomb the crap out of.

/yeah -- couldn't go to sleep until I squeezed that one out.

Night all.

294 Mike C.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:33:06pm

# 281 aussiemagpie

Seems to me you've been missing from a couple of blogs for longer than that. But what do I know ?

295 Salem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:33:09pm

LOL! I, for one, would be devastated.

Yeah, I hope he gets his own sitcom, myself.

296 cbinflux  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:33:24pm

#286 ctp
Thinkin' about fertilizin' the desert are you? Fwance, Spain..?

297 fluffy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:34:26pm

#280 Beagle

Bring out the Danish Cartoon Cannon!

Oh, the humanity!

298 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:35:22pm

#296 cbinflux

Not sure... Does pissing count as fertilizer?

300 Salem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:37:28pm

Koffi & Son!

"Kojo, you big idiot!"

301 Kaintuck  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:41:11pm

#296

Not sure... Does pissing count as fertilizer?

Yep, urea:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

302 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:41:26pm
#297 fluffy

Bring out the Danish Cartoon Cannon!

Oh, the humanity cars!

/there, fixed that for ya

303 cbinflux  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:43:24pm

#296 ctp
An excellent root-starter (see old thread on the subject)! That and a little lard should get the flowers growing nicely...

304 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:43:49pm

#294 Mike C

No I really have been here most nights - just very late starting at around 2.30am here! But I've been very very quiet!

Missed a few days as nonic's son Tom is here and we went to Queensland a few weeks back, then another weekend the server was down for 2 nights - that's about it

But I have been here! My attendance sheet has been marked off by the DDT attendance officer :-)

How's things with you?

305 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:43:59pm

Speaking of Kojo, why isn't he in jail?

306 Kaintuck  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:44:20pm

#301

Eyeballs failing me. Shoulda said #298

307 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:44:36pm

Oh this is nice -

And Mary Cheney if you are reading this I hope you feel better now that you have been a part of a party that hates gay people

Posted by: votekerry2004 on November 3, 2004 12:52 AM

Remember that debate with Kerry and Cheney? BDS was there and we didn't even realize how bad it was.

308 fluffy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:45:03pm

#302 Killian Bundy

Cars? As in 'fire-proof Renaults'?

309 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:46:00pm

What's DDT? Does it come after the DT?

310 Beagle  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:46:36pm

#305 zulubaby

Speaking of Kojo, why isn't he in jail?


I think they have to find his pirate Mercedes buried somewhere. Once again proving, white collar crime does pay.

Ka-boom!

/Me crashing

311 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:46:37pm

#304 Aussie

I know it's too late to start flirtin' with my favorite auzzie, but I have to...

Are you coming to TX? (hardly flirtin', I know, but I need an office manager!)...

312 Salem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:47:30pm

#292 Bundy

I remember that thread! Those are cool. I'm partial to the Johnny Quest robot spiders, though.

313 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:48:47pm

IDF troops surround Hezbollah stronghold of Bint Jbail

Nerves! Pray for the IDF.

314 kateca  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:51:25pm

Killain Bundy

I have a friend who is following what is happening in the mid-east by watching CNN. He has the belief that Israel is a big bully gone mad.

He is unaware of any justification for what Israel is doing. He is very aware or "disproportional use of force" on 'civilians'.

I saved the tread below to show him a beautiful example of media sway.

Sometimes I think the internet is all that saved us from George Orwell's vision of the future.

315 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 10:52:01pm
Air raid siren heard in Haifa
(10:34 , 07.25.06)
Air raid siren heard in western Galilee
(09:58 , 07.25.06)

It's 10:44am right now.

316 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:02:57pm

#309 littleoldlady

Hi - well its the Daily Debauchery Thread, or the Deadest Dead Thread etc and yes it's the DT unplugged :-)

317 Almost_Honest  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:04:05pm

Charles!
If you and your neighbors turn off your air conditioners and lights those nasty old tankers will go away.

318 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:06:03pm

So...

I sat next to a guy and his wife at a bar this afternoon (for those following the story...)... The gentleman was born in Italy and raised in France... A wonderful man, a great conversaationalist, his beautiful wife even more...

The subject of Islamofasicm came up, but then... I tried to talk to them but...

319 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:06:42pm
#314 kateca

He is unaware of any justification for what Israel is doing. He is very aware or "disproportional use of force" on 'civilians'.

Well, if the [bigoted word]s would only adhere to The Law of Land Warfare, civilian casualties and damage to infrastructure wouuldn't be that much of a problem.

/and, as a bonus, they'd be getting their asses kicked much faster

320 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:09:18pm

Hey, aussie!

it's the DT unplugged

Aha. Well I guess that's better than what we occasionally get around this time of day:

The DT unhinged.

;-)

321 Golden Jerusalem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:10:00pm

#315 zulubaby:

A friend of mine is Golani infantry, was injured up there yesterday.

I need to go see him later. He's not seriously hurt, thank God.

I think when I go the the hospital, I should probably donate blood as well. I didn't get around to it yet.

I'm curious to hear my mate's first-hand impression of what's happening in Leb.

322 Globular Cluster  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:14:26pm

Good morning wierods -- what's the word? Anything new to report?

323 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:15:17pm

#311 Christheprofessor

Hi there!

I know, but I need an office manager!)...

Oh dear I'm laughing now luv - you know how I can't type, can't count etc :-)

But I do answer the phone very nicely and I can make you a cup of tea or coffee as needed!

Of course, I am a fantastic filer as you can see should you ever come into my home office - "F" is for floor, "S" is for shoved behind door, etc

324 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:16:10pm

Golden Jerusalem, no way, how awful :-( Refuah shlema.

If it's okay to repeat, I'd like to hear what he has to say. And good idea on donating blood -- I need to do that too.

Speaking of which, did you see this? Israeli firm working on blood pack to save soldiers' lives

325 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:18:43pm
Golden Jerusalem

Wow, I got all formal on you, GJ.

326 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:19:03pm

#323 Ozzie!

Would that I could hire you!

Ozzie -- I'm drunk... bear with me...

327 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:19:09pm

#320 littleoldlady

The DT unhinged.

Well it seems pretty well behaved so far! :-)

328 kateca  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:25:04pm

Israel: percision bombing the home of a banker funding Hizb'allah, to send message to other bankers funding Hizb'allah

CNN: film of bomed out home of "Lebanese businessman".

329 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:25:11pm

aussie,

Just you wait. Miguel and his bashert* are likely to show up any minute now...

;-)

/* "meant to be"; "a match made in heaven"

330 Mike C.  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:25:38pm

# 320 littleoldlady

If you keep that up, I'm gonna tell Miguel you're dissing his bride.

331 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:26:45pm

Dispatches from an Anxious State

The First War, All Over Again

Israelis understand what this is. This is a war over our homes. Over our homes in the north, for now, but eventually, as the rockets get better and larger, all of our homes. This is not about the territories. This is not about the "occupation." This is not about creating a Palestinian state. This is about whether there will be a state called Israel. Sixty years after Arab nations greeted the UN resolution on 29 November 1947 with a declaration of war, nothing much has changed. They attacked this time for the same reason that they did sixty years ago.

At first, it was the Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians. We put a stop to that in 1949, 1956, 1967 and 1973.

Then it was the Palestinians, who bamboozled the world (and many of us Israelis) into believing that they just wanted a state, and that their terror was simply a way of forcing us to make one possible. We fought the terror in 1982 (Lebanon), 1987 (Intifada) and even after Camp David and Oslo, once again in 2000-2005 (the Terror War). And then, we actually tried to make the State happen. We got out of Lebanon, to put an end to that conflict. And even more momentous, we got out of Gaza, hoping that they'd start to build something.

And now, it's Hizbullah. Or more accurately, Syria. Or to be more precise, Iran. What's Iran's beef with Israel? Territory it lost? It didn't lose any. And does anyone really believe that Iran cares one whit about the Palestinians and their state? That's not the reason. We know it, and so do they.

Now, the bitter reality of which Israel's right wing had warned about all along, is beginning to settle in. It is not lost on virtually any Israelis that the two primary fronts on which this war is being conducted are precisely the two fronts from which we withdrew to internationally recognized borders. We withdrew from Gaza, despite all the internal objections, hoping to move Palestinian statehood -- and peace -- one step closer. But all we got in return was the election of Hamas, and a barrage of more than 800 Qassams that they refused to end.

And then they stole Gilad Shalit. Not from Gaza. Not from some contested no man's land. From inside the internationally recognized borders of Israel. As if to make sure that we got the point -- "There is no place that you're safe. There is no place to which we won't take this war. You can't stay here."

Because as much as we have wanted to believe otherwise, they have no interest in building their homeland. They only care about destroying ours.

Six years ago we pulled out of Lebanon. Same story. In defiance of the UN's resolution 1559, Hizbullah armed itself to the teeth, and as we watched and did nothing, accumulated more than 10,000 rockets. And dug itself into the mountains. And established itself in Beirut, effectively using the entire Lebanese population as human shields. And, assuming that there was little that we could or would do, it attacked on 12 June, killing eight soldiers, and stealing Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev. Not from Southern Lebanon. Not from Har Dov, a tiny hilltop that's still contested. But from inside Israel. Inside a line, that no one contests.

332 American Jewess in Jerusalem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:28:00pm

Golden Jerusalem, a speedy refuah shlema to your soldier buddy! And may Israel have a swift victory so that all her boys can come home soon.

333 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:28:20pm

#326 christheprofessor

Now you read the article I posted before

You are only allowed to start drinking 7 drinks a week (or was it a day?) when you turn 70 - not one minute before :-)

So OK you are getting ready! Cheers - I've just opened the chardy too -it's time to cook dinner soon and a glass of wine is always good while cooking

334 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:28:36pm

kateca (#328)

Israel: percision bombing the home of a banker funding Hizb'allah, to send message to other bankers funding Hizb'allah

CNN: film of bomed out home of "Lebanese businessman".

That says it all, doesn't it? Propaganda at its finest.

335 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:31:46pm

I hope they have Rice surrounded by the best of Israeli security because the Palestinians are going nuts today.

336 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:33:45pm

Gaza groups ready to deal on cease-fire, release of Shalit

Ibrahim Al-Naja said the factions were ready to stop the Qassam rocket fire if Israel's ceased all military moves against the Palestinian factions in Gaza. They are also ready to release Shalit in exchange for guaranteeing the future release of Palestinian prisoners.

Give 'em back the Hamas "legislators" captured since this latest episode started. If they don't agree, kick theiir ass some more.

/they're obviously starting to feel the pain

337 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:35:30pm

I received this in an e-mail from a friend.

--

Dear Friends of Israel...

Please call now to Governor Schwarzenegger - 213- 897-0322
and Antonio Villaraigosa- 213 978- 0600

It is OK TO LEAVE MESSAGES...

Tell them how much you appreciate their participation in Los Angeles rally to support Israel.

Jack Weiss - (although not AS necessary as the above two, it would be nice to thank Jack Weiss for his continuous support and personal dedication) 213-473-7005

Whether you are a Democrat or Republican, I ask you to do what is right-- defend Israel, who was attacked without provocation by a force dedicated to destroying it and annihilating all Jews--completing with Hitler did not do.

Contact the White House and Secy Rice with messages of appreciation and continued support.

The phone number for the White House is 202-456-1111. president@whitehouse.com; comments@whitehouse.com

Also send message to Secretary Rice:

Contact Information

Thank you.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS ASAP
Moti Gur
VP Stand With Us

338 Sleipnir  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:35:33pm

Good morning, wierods.

That one still amuses me - some drooling leftist at the keyboard, red with self-righteous anger over something he doesn't understand falling over his own hands.

Wholly unacquainted with the world in which they are so fond of meddling, and inexperienced in all its affairs, on which they pronounce with so much confidence, they have nothing of politics but the passions they excite. --Edmund Burke

339 Sleipnir  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:38:22pm
340 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:38:29pm

Aussie,

Campaigning on the rights of young people at the Earth Dialogues forum, being held in Brisbane, Ms Williams spoke passionately about the deaths of innocent children during wartime, particularly in the Middle East, and lambasted Mr Bush.

"Right now, I would love to kill George Bush." Her young audience at the Brisbane City Hall clapped and cheered.


Australian Boomrangbats.

341 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:40:08pm

#329 littleoldlady

I do try to read back over the DDT, so some nights you are all so funny to read so it takes hours to actually start posting and then it's almost bed time

342 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:40:36pm
#335 zulubaby

I hope they have Rice surrounded by the best of Israeli security because the Palestinians are going nuts today.

She's already been to Beirut, our DS agents can protect our own.

/although friendly coordination with the host country is always welcome

343 Salem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:42:21pm

Harry Reid nagging Bush that he'd better not screw this one up like he did Iraq. What would we do without ya, Harry?

344 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:42:51pm

Buenas noches.

345 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:43:45pm
11:40 Peres calls on Lebanese army to fight Hezbollah (Haaretz)

11:23 Peres: No alternative to victory over Hezbollah (AP)

Who is this guy and what has he done with Peres?

346 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:44:31pm

Shalom Miguel.

347 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:46:54pm

Peace zulubaby :)
Today more than ever, may it come soon.

348 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:49:07pm

#341 aussie,

We're just rehearsing. The plan is to take the show on the road.

;-)

349 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:50:53pm

#340 ibmkeyboard

Australian Boomrangbats

Hi there! Yes tragic - young kids brainwashed

350 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:52:26pm

zulubaby
Call me crazy if you want, but I have the impression that what has happened to Peres can happen to a lot of people, once confronted with a really serious situation. I include a lot of Europeans in that number (wishing, wishing). And a hopeful lot of Mexicans too, if the commies down here really push all the way to uprising. Let's see what stuff we're made of.
You know me, I'm an incurable optimist :p

351 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:53:16pm
#343 Salem 7/25/2006 01:42AM PDT

Harry Reid nagging Bush that he'd better not screw this one up like he did Iraq. What would we do without ya, Harry?

Back in the Before Iraq TV days I used to watch Harry Reid,
Now,
he is just a hair-headed peace fart.

/no haired-headed peace fart.

352 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:53:51pm

#348 littleoldlady

That's wonderful! :-D Stage name?

353 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:55:48pm

aussie,

The Dead Thread - Live.

?


I dunno. Haven't had enough coffee yet. Will consider all suggestions...

354 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:56:25pm

Boots on the ground.

/style does not involve large gaudy brooches

355 Golden Jerusalem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:56:44pm

#324 zulubaby:

Speaking of which, did you see this? Israeli firm working on blood pack to save soldiers' lives

That is too cool, eh?

F*ckin' Jews, always being clever :P

Poor Arabs, they never stood a chance, muahahaha...

356 Globular Cluster  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:56:51pm

Today's IDF Progress Report:

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

* 15 Katyusha launch sites destroyed
* 18 Hizballah buildings in Tyre destroyed
* 6 Hizballah warehoused destroyed throughout Lebanon
* 40 Hizballah gunmen killed around Bint Jbeil
* 2 cars carrying Hizballah destroyed
* 2 soldiers killed and 25 wounded
* 80 katyushas fired

357 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:56:57pm

In the Internet Era there are no roads.
They are all virtual...

358 Salem  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:58:50pm

he is just a hair-headed peace fart.

He's got a head on him like a rabbit.

359 # 17  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:59:33pm

345 Zulubaby.

This is the Peres who was directly responsible for the Kfar Kana shelling which (unlike what is currently happening in Lebanon) really did kill innocent civilians. But as he was, and is, a left winger, he was never taken to task for it.

Sharon, on the other hand, was constantly castigated for Sabra and Chatilla (for which he was not responsible) until he turned left, whereupon the Israeli establishment granted him immunity.

360 nonic  Mon, Jul 24, 2006 11:59:45pm

#352 aussiemagpie

Hi, girl. Isn't it unusual to see you here at this ungodly hour? (Well, it's ungodly on the East coast USA.)

Was just working on e-mail with Tom regarding his return from Oz and how we're going to get him from the airport.

Hard to believe that adventure is drawing to a close.

361 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:01:17am

Hola Miguel,

I hope you're not leaving?

Haven't talk to you for ages it seems :P

Whatcha been up to?

362 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:02:04am

#17
You make me remember something very weird along the same lines: Waldheim was untouched when he was the UN General Secretary, but as soon as he tried to be the President of Austria, all hell broke loose. It was really amazing.

363 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:02:24am
And a hopeful lot of Mexicans too, if the commies down here really push all the way to uprising. Let's see what stuff we're made of.
You know me, I'm an incurable optimist :p

Me also,
but I do carry a double barrel shotgun in the trunk.

/just in case Dick Cheney ever asked me to go bird hunting.

364 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:02:44am

Crap - late again.

Good morning, Wierods of the dead thread.

365 Mr Krabs  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:04:22am

#158 rayra

One of the presenters of that show was charged
with offensive conduct recently. Great stuff.

[Link: www.abc.net.au...]

366 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:04:56am

#359 No. 17:

This is the Peres who was directly responsible for the Kfar Kana shelling which (unlike what is currently happening in Lebanon) really did kill innocent civilians. But as he was, and is, a left winger, he was never taken to task for it.

Uhm, those civvies were holed up in a UN compound along with Hezb'allah fighters who were using the UN position as a great cover for firing mortars and rockets at the IDF.

It was necessary to do what was done back then and nobody should've ever apologized or "been taken to task" for that.

367 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:06:33am

G.J.
No, I'm not. Buenas noches is both to say hi and good bye at night. ;)
I was off line for two days. There was a storm on Sat. and KABOOM! my phone went down :( with a lighting bolt. At Telmex they don't work on week-ends, so I had to wait till Monday to have a phone...and internet. So, I missed two days around here, trying to keep up with some news through the radio and the tv. But week-ends are the worst time for the radio and tv as for news goes lol. Anyway here I am, supporting my friends around :)

368 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:08:40am
#364 Mike C.

Good morning, Wierods of the dead thread.

/Do not trust the Wiper Wierod!

369 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:08:46am

Good morning, afternoon, evevning *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Looks like St. Pancake is still sleeping it off.
I'll get us some Krispie Kremes® when the store opens.

/what? ME bake?

370 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:09:00am

ibmkb
You can't carry in Mexico.
We can't carry, they can't carry.
And when push comes to shove, weapons spring everywhere around LOL.

371 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:10:43am

littleoldlady
Thanks a lot!
As kind as always ;)

372 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:10:58am

#367

Yeah, yeah. A long, convoluted and highly doubtful story.

Did you enjoy Reno?

373 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:11:36am
There was a storm on Sat. and KABOOM! my phone went down :( with a lighting bolt. At Telmex they don't work on week-ends, so I had to wait till Monday to have a phone...and internet.

Bad storms in North Carolina also.
Lighting striking cars, houses, and knocking down trees.

/I promise I will never call Lawhawk the Anti-Christ again...

374 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:13:28am

#372 littleoldlady
Grrr...

I was telling the truth, but it will be the last. ¬¬

375 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:14:40am

Reno means "raindear" in Spanish.
I have two dogs :p

376 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:15:06am

Oops, Raindeer.

377 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:15:08am

Miguel,

Es usted familiar con el Instituto Cervantes?

Hay uno en Tel Aviv, tienen cursos espanoles para principiantes (sp?)...

Ensemble un curso en la nivel inicial

Does this make any sense?

378 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:15:27am

And when push comes to shove, weapons spring everywhere around LOL.

Hmm. Well, next time a Mexican says Buenos Noches to me, I'm going to dive behind a Bush and watch what they do. I don't know whether they are coming or going!

379 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:15:39am
Livni: Int`l conference in Rome should condemn Hezbollah as a terrorist group (Reuters)

That would qualify as a flying pig moment.

Netanyahu: Iran doesn`t care if one million Arabs in Israel die from missiles (Haaretz)

Good point and very true. When they do kill Arabs, they immediately make them "martyrs". Very convenient for the immature-refusing-to-take-responsibility-for-anyth ing-ever type person.

380 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:16:27am

Wierods,
lol
Charles gets some good quotes out of trolls,
then he bans them.

/kind of like CBS and Dan Rather.

381 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:16:47am

ibmkb
I have the impression that storms have been more violent this year than previous years. Does it seem the same way in North Carolina too?

382 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:19:05am

Oh f$ck! It's DAY 14, people! These CNN idiots obviously think there is a count-down.

383 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:19:07am

#367 Miguel:

At Telmex they don't work on week-ends, so I had to wait till Monday to have a phone...and internet.

LOL, sounds oddly familiar...

Phone company here is no better. It's fairly recently privatized, but it's still a monopol and their level of service and behavior is comparable to that of a communist bureaucracy...

384 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:20:23am

G.J.
Entendí todo. La última frase no está bien, ensamble es francés. Pero lo demás se entiende bien.
Algo conozco del Instituto Cervantes, parece que es bueno.
Ojalá (jeje) te decidas a estudiar español ;)

385 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:21:38am

salem
BOO!

;)

386 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:27:29am

Golden Jerusalem
Telmex is better than before. They keep the monopoly in local calls, but not for long distance. I have ATT for instance. That makes them a bit more efficient, but still, the burocracy is terrible, they were the government monopoly too. It was privatized in 1994.

387 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:28:03am

China to test its 'artificial sun'

Well, I certainly hope nothing goes wrong with this experiment.

/these people haven't even been to Mars yet

388 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:28:32am
Ojalá (jeje) te decidas a estudiar español ;)

Definitivamente. El curso del nivel inicial es corto pero intensivo.

Puedo progresar al nivel intermediario.

Tienen los diplomas oficiales y todo, LOL.

Los cursos comienzan en agosto...

389 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:29:11am

Someone's bugging me. I gotta run for a bit.

Later all!

390 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:30:08am

G.J.
¡Perfecto! Vas a avanzar muy rápido ;)

391 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:32:03am

Well, I certainly hope nothing goes wrong with this experiment.

OTOH... Naw, nevermind.

392 Westward Ho  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:43:26am

Yoel Marcus calls the IDF rich and dumb

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Is he a LLL?

393 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:49:43am

Progress Report
More good news from Iraq.

STFU Wierods!

/evrybody knows Iraq is a quagmire civil war!

394 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:57:44am

I hate to admit it, but Anderson Cooper doesn't grate on me like Shlephard Sith. That guy is part grey alien, or something. Those huge, dead eyes. But he's a dolt who routinely mispronounces words and misses points. An embarassment to FOX, like Juan Jilliams and Mara's A liar, son. And the new guy, Novack? Oy!

395 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:57:53am

You know that wierd feeling you get when you walk into a room and eveyone stops talking ?

396 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 12:59:47am

Maybe it's...your breath!

/old ad remembered by an old advertising person

397 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:05:34am

General strike in Ramallah?
Gaza has the second-to-last income per capita in the world, just above war-torn East Timor.
That's exactly what you do when you have the second lowest income in the world: strike.
Amazingly shrewd.

398 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:05:46am

# 393 littleoldlady

I know exactly which ads you're talking about.

399 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:10:26am

I know exactly which ads you're talking about.

MENTOS!: The Freshmaker!

400 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:11:11am

400

401 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:11:14am

#397 Miguel:

General strike in Ramallah?

Said on pali to another: Better a general strike than an air strike.

HAHAHAHA!

402 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:13:02am

Golden Jerusalem
ROFL!

403 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:13:56am

Pathetic - and more than a little scary - when you can remember a TV commercial from 30 years ago but not what you had for lunch yesterday.

I wonder if I'll miss my mind?

It was nice knowing you all...

404 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:14:35am

"Oh my Ghhhod susie, your breath! HarUUULP! WRETCH! :flipflopconvulsetwitchtwitch:"

Listerene, right?

405 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:15:32am
#397 MigueldowninMexico

Gaza has the second-to-last income per capita in the world, just above war-torn East Timor.

Are you sure, got a linky?

/Haiti is feeling slighted, although maybe that's just in out "big stick" zone

406 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:16:44am

littleoldlady
Stop it. That reflection can scare you.
Ask my mom.

407 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:17:53am

Killian
Let me search, I'll be back with a link in a little while.

408 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:19:08am

Dear oh dear.

I really am not in the mood for being at work right now.

I guess I shoulda held back on the boozin' yesterday :P

I think I'll try to cut out early and go see my friend at Tel HaShomer.

I wonder if they'll take my blood when I go to donate or whether it's toxic?

409 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:20:17am

# 399 salem

Uh, you're off by a few decades.

410 gaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:20:20am

Charles,
a sting operation by NBC do expose Hezbollah financing from the US.
Definitely deserves a front page display.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

411 Luigi  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:20:22am

This remarkable video was in a comment last night. It is about the influence of Hitler's Nazi ideology on the current Muslim world. (The translation failed for me in the first bit.)

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

412 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:26:09am

All the news networks have coverage or segments or interviews on Israel and Lebannon, except MSNBC, where Don Imus is looking as someone's baby pictures. What a fiasco. Why don't they just turn off the lights and go home?

413 Westward Ho  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:28:14am

Golden Jerusalem,

Brilliant.

414 Mal' rider  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:28:55am

O.T.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

DETROIT (Reuters) - An Arab-American civil rights group filed a federal lawsuit on Monday charging the Bush administration with failing to protect the lives of thousands of U.S. citizens trapped in Lebanon by the Israeli military offensive.

They're joking, right?

415 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:30:16am

#410 gaby
That is interesting. Hamas had/has a similar program. Let's hope the feds are watching this.

416 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:31:12am

Wow, Tiki Barber just effectively questioned a foriegn ambassador. The world has taken a turn for the surreal. And the NFL season starts in about a month.

/he just increased his fantasy football auction worth

417 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:33:07am

The Hezb'allah cowards have been beaten in a couple of clashes with our forces. Hoestly, I think we all knew that the bastards are lesser warriors than our proud soldiers, but one thing they do know to do - hide among civvies and bombard civilian targets:

More Rockets Hit North

Sixteen rockets fell in the Haifa area in the latest barrage on the North at noon on Tuesday. At least one fell in a residential area in Haifa.

At least 23 people were wounded in the attack, two moderately and 11 lightly. The rest were suffering from shock. Magen David Adom ambulances evacuated the wounded to Haifa's Rambam Hospital.

According to police, disaster was averted when the rockets avoided direct hits on apartment buildings, instead hitting in courtyards near the buildings.

One of the rockets also hit a city bus and another a house. Two others hit very close to a Haifa hospital, doctors said.

418 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:33:57am

Saudi Arabia calls for Lebanon ceasefire

Asked his view of Britain's support for the U.S. position on Lebanon, Saud said: "Well I hope the support will be for the Lebanese position on the Lebanon. This is what we are urging everybody."

"The crisis is Lebanon's crisis, it's not Britain's or America's or Saudi Arabia's crisis, and what we need is to help that country overcome this crisis and we can only do that by having it achieve again its sovereignty over its territory."

"This will be the solution that will be to everybody's interest," he said.

On his position toward Hizbollah, Saud said: "It's not a matter of being critical of Hizbollah, we are for Lebanon."

Vill it be ze FINAL SOLUTION?

419 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:34:40am

#413 W'ward Ho:

Brilliant.

huh? What is?

420 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:34:41am

Killian Bundy

Tiki can do no wrong from my perspective...
yummy.

jess sayin'


anyone have a live link to Charles on Prager?

421 Westward Ho  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:35:54am

Golden Jerusalem,

They hide themselves in mobile vegetation while firing them.

422 Westward Ho  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:37:39am

Golden jerusalem,

The one about General strikes being a better option than air strikes

423 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:39:00am

#420 BabbaZee
I think it's here

424 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:39:20am

But in more cheerful news, production from Cantarell field, which produces 60 % of Mexico's oil, declined 7 % between January and May of 2006. Take Mikey's word for it, folks, that's one hell of a decline curve. More like falling off a cliff, actually. And those are official Pemex numbers. Oh, and reports have it that Ghawar, which supplies the majority of the Magic Kingdom's production, is also starting to nosedive. Pop some popcorn, crack a cold one, and pull up a chair, 'cause you ain't seen nothing yet.

425 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:40:34am

Kilgore

thanks very much
I'll be back after I hear it

426 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:42:58am

That guy head-butted a horse!

427 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:43:52am

Kilgore
thats the link
but it doesnt start up
is it me
or is it the link, does anyone know?

428 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:43:59am

::ordering wood for the fireplaces::

429 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:44:38am

#421 & 422 w'ward ho:

The one about General strikes being a better option than air strikes

Ah, lol yea. It was just begging to be said :P

They hide themselves in mobile vegetation while firing them.

You read Debka :D

Me too...

430 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:45:08am

#424 Mike C.
So we're rushing towards $100 barrrel?

431 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:46:55am
#424 Mike C.

But in more cheerful news, production from Cantarell field, which produces 60 % of Mexico's oil, declined 7 % between January and May of 2006

Cheerful, won't that lead to higher pump prices for us?

Please ezplain.

/color me naive

432 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:47:35am

Westward Ho,

Is he a LLL?

Ha'aretz poses as a left-wing newspaper. It's really an Arab newspaper. "LLL" doesn't quite cover it. In fact, Ha'aretz, "Israel's Hebrew Palestinian Daily", should be referred to by its Arabic name -- Al-Ard.

433 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:47:49am

# 430 K T

Yes, if it's only supply and demand. Toss in WW III/IV, and all bets are off.

434 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:49:15am

Good morning all.
{littleoldlady}
{zulubaby}

435 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:49:50am

Mal' rider (#414)

No, they're not joking at all. They use our freedoms, rights, and liberties to destroy us. They hate our democracies but make good use of them.

436 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:50:07am

Missile falls off truck onto New York highway

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A missile fell off a truck and onto a New York highway on Friday, but the weapon did not have a warhead and posed no danger, police said.

WCBS radio reported it was a Tomahawk cruise missile. Police and fire department officials could not confirm that.

The cargo came loose when the truck carrying it collided with another truck on a motorway in the Bronx.

"It was a military-type missile but it was inert. There was no danger and no one was harmed," a police spokesman said.

437 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:50:10am

Israel's war separates the decent Left from the indecent Left

By Dennis Prager
[Link: jewishworldreview.com...]

438 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:50:13am

# 431 K B

Cheerful, won't that lead to higher pump prices for us?

Uh, well, yeah. Don't usually need the sarc tag at this time of day.

439 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:50:20am

{My Rove!}

::ordering wilderness survival kit::

440 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:52:56am

Lil'Ole lady 439

I asked Mr. Babba for a chicken coop
and a hand pump on our well...
he wont give me the chicken coop
LOL

441 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:52:59am

Two killed in Britain as inflatable art takes off

LONDON (Reuters) - Two women died and 13 people were injured when they fell from a huge inflatable sculpture after it broke its moorings and flew into the air in a park in northeastern England, police said Monday.

Up to 30 people were inside the walk-in exhibit, which has been shown around the world, when a gust of wind blew it 9 metres above the park in Chester-le-Street Sunday.

"All of a sudden it just started rising like a balloon," witness Mark Spooner told BBC television. "(It was) flinging people all over. Then it just seemed to flip over in the air."

The victims, aged 68 and 38, had been walking through the artwork with children when it took off. A three-year-old girl was seriously injured in the freak accident.

"(The) inflatable exhibition broke its moorings and tipped those using it on to the ground," police said in a statement.

Designed by artist Maurice Agis, the exhibit, called Dreamspace, is 5 metres high and made out of plastic sheeting. Half the size of a soccer pitch, it has walls that change color as visitors wander through its maze of corridors.

It was brought to earth after it drifted into a pole.

442 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:53:22am

421 westward ho

hide themselves in mobile vegetation


Bring me a shrubbery!

443 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:53:50am

#432 zulubaby:

Ha'aretz poses as a left-wing newspaper. It's really an Arab newspaper. "LLL" doesn't quite cover it. In fact, Ha'aretz, "Israel's Hebrew Palestinian Daily", should be referred to by its Arabic name -- Al-Ard.

Niet helemaal waar dat... :D :D

Haaretz has some good military analysts and their news pieces are quite sound. Their business news aren't bad either for a paper that's not all about that.

It's on the op-ed side of things that it really goes wrong wrong wrong...

However, I'd like to kill Gideon Levy and Amira Hass with my bare hands...

GRR!

444 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:55:04am

GJ,

Said on pali to another: Better a general strike than an air strike.

LOL!

--

Jim in Virginia,

Aawww, so sweet :-) Boker tov.

It is so hot here today, I'm fainting. I went out -- suffered -- came back home. The errands will have to wait until later or tomorrow.

445 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:55:25am

{BabbaZee!}

Chickens are majorly stinky. Get a pond and some ducks!

;-)

446 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:55:59am

MIke C- so peak oil is here and gone?
House voted yesterday to restrict drilling on public lands. Sheer briliance, and from a RINO Congress.

447 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:56:17am

Unh. Hungry. Must find food. Back in bit.

448 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:56:30am
#433 Mike C.

Yes, if it's only supply and demand. Toss in WW III/IV, and all bets are off.

Seriously, best guess, when do our current enemies/allies run out of oil reserves?

/in other words, if we don't change our ways, how long until the jihadi regimes run out of oil money?

449 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:58:52am

Lil, LOL
I know

PPPeee-UUU

I just wanted eggs after "the collapse"...
and once in a while chopped liver.
Oh well.

We have so much game in the woods behind us, I will never go hungry...

450 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 1:59:03am

#427 BabbaZee
huh, you're right.

451 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:00:08am

Kilgore
yea, that's the same link I had before I asked here, I thought I must have the wrong one, but something wrong...

I guess I'll keep trying

452 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:01:27am

I can smell Vineland all the way here. (Yuck)

Pate de foie gras! What a war..what a war! Such suffering!

LOL!

453 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:02:41am

Killian Bundy- you never get the last drop out. It just gets more expensive to produce. The scarcer it is, the higher the price, so they will always have oil revenue. We need something else.
(A too simple and probably incorrect theory. )

454 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:04:21am

Vineland? Huh? Vikings and Skraelings?

455 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:04:26am
Bring me a shrubbery!

LOL! LGFers have an excellent sense of humour. Well most. Gordon doesn't count.

GJ,

Niet helemaal waar dat... :D :D

Not exactly Afrikaans, but not bad! LOL.

Okay, I'm actually going to agree with you. I'm a bloodthirsty witch who has a tendency to go eversoslightly overboard. Your take on Ha'aretz if probably more accurate. Still, I won't buy it. I read it all the time online but when I see the names Gideon Levy and Amira Haas, I keep going. No point in getting myself wound up over those two Jew-haters.

I must add though, that I do find Ha'aretz very defeatist, or maybe simply 'on the other side'. If the IDF and Hezbollah are fighting, they'll report on how dazzled the IDF is by Hezbollah's strength. It works my nerves.

456 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:05:34am

BabbaZee!

How ya feelin'?

/Tomorrow cometh the man from Amsterdam, yippie!

457 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:06:03am

Vineland and Millville New Jersey.

Lousy with chicken farms. [emphasis on LOUSY]

458 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:07:33am

Golden

Verily I say unto you that on the morrow there will be great rejoicing in the holy land

LOL


I am better than yesterday
but not by much

459 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:09:00am

#455 zulubaby:

Not exactly Afrikaans, but not bad! LOL.

Nee, ik denkt het is nederlands... :D

460 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:09:14am

455 zulubaby

ooo "bloodthirsty witch" is almost better than "queen of war and violence".


L'Chaim!

LOL

461 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:09:45am

Good Morning Youse'all from a slightly overcast and warmish (73 degrees, going to 88) New York City! How is everyone this morning?

462 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:10:19am

Ik begrijp wat nederlands, omdat ik Deens ben :P

463 tigger2005  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:16:41am

# 441 Salem

lawsuit-rich environment!

464 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:17:13am

Hello?!? Anybody out there (that speaks engiish, I mean!)?

465 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:17:32am
#453 Jim in Virginia

you never get the last drop out. It just gets more expensive to produce. The scarcer it is, the higher the price, so they will always have oil revenue. We need something else.

True, but without Western expertise, the [bigoted word] oil ticks and Chavez would crumble.

/if we could somehow become less dependent on oil, for real, the [bigoted word]s would have no significant funding to carry on their "jihad"

466 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:17:41am

Hi Real

467 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:19:28am

Babba,

Some of my admirers refer to me as Queen of LGF. Little do they know, I'm actually Queen of The Fucking Universe.

468 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:19:32am

US embassy in Denmark closed off on bomb fear

COPENHAGEN (Reuters) - The U.S. embassy in Copenhagen was cordoned off on Tuesday after Danish police arrested a man who was carrying a backpack containing a suspicious package, police said.

The man seemed confused and was spotted outside the embassy by security staff who alerted police.

Police found a package consisting of what looked like wire, a clock and batteries in the man's backpack.

"We don't know what it is. The package is a small thing but we couldn't take a chance," a police spokesman said.

Police said the bomb alert had triggered a series of planned responses, including the closing off of an large area outside the embassy.

Bomb squad technicians will examine the package, Police said. No further details were available on the arrested man.

469 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:19:46am

{realwest!}

470 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:19:57am

Couple of interesting links via Jihad Watch.

A political scientist writing for Der Spiegel gets it:

Why Israel's Reaction is Right

And a less cheerful one:

Pakistan launches huge nuclear arms drive

Pakistan with even more nuclear weapons: a malicious and disturbed five-year-old child with a bank account, a latch key, and a shotgun.

471 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:20:56am
Ik begrijp wat nederlands, omdat ik Deens ben :P

Riiioight. LOL!

472 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:22:43am

lawsuit-rich environment!

The artist was quoted as saying "I suffer for my art, why shouldn't others?" Naw, not really...

473 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:23:02am

#466 BabbaZee - Hi Babba - you feeling better this morning I saw (up above this thread) who is the guy from Amsterdam?
Sorry, but I ain't had any coffee yet so please spell it out in simple terms!

BTW -what the hell ever happened to the replay of Charles on Prager last night? I waited waaay past my bedtime to catch it and it never appeared?!

474 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:25:09am

Real

its there but the link doesnt start up

I havent heard it yet either

The Man from Amsterdam is classified info LOL

GANJIHAD!

475 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:26:01am

#473 realwest
Still not working yet. I looked for other sources but couldn't find the audio anywhere else.

476 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:26:03am

Google search: weirods

Results 1 - 10 of about 276 for weirods. (0.35 seconds)

Did you mean: weirdos

Hell, no! Why would I be searching for weirdos?

477 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:26:45am

Oooh, someone's importing a Dutch dish?

478 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:27:43am

#467 zulubaby
pttthhh
LOL
I think we must rule over the same Kingdom,
seems I've heard THAT shit before, hahaha

479 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:28:05am

#467 zulubaby Morning, your awesome Majesty!
How are ya today?

480 Middle-Earth  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:30:42am

#468 Salem

US embassy in Denmark closed off on bomb fear

The bomb alert is called off. The backpack didn't contain any explosives. Just some batteries, a clock, a compass and a pocketknife, but wrapped in duck tape.

481 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:30:52am

#469 littleoldlady {littleoldlady}Good morning! Is your houseguest still around or is she sleeping in and if she's sleeping in, is she at your place?! LOL! How are YOU sweetie?

482 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:31:07am

Hiya realwest. Muggy, 75 in Alexandria VA. Watson the Wonder Dog and I ran for 3 miles. He's got Doggie ADD:
Look, there's a squirrel. Ooh, there's a bird over there, there's a squirrel. There's another doggie...

Richard Cohen writes a pro Israel piece in WaPo today
It's not disproportionate, it's survival.
He's still a pendejo.

483 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:31:09am

Babba, I'd be happy to share the Kingdom. It's exhausting ruling the world! ;-)

Hiya realwest, I'm doing well, thanks. How are you doing? :-)

484 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:31:59am

Results 1 - 10 of about 276 for weirods. (0.35 seconds)

Try "wierods". That's how it's spelled.

485 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:32:54am

"waving"

486 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:33:00am

Slepnir- I think it is wierodos.
Or maybe I'm just wierd.

487 BenZacharia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:33:34am

{} & [] all around, you know who you are.

zulubaby a joke

knock knock
whos there?
George
George who?
sh1t


realwest what the hell is going on with the electrict up around them parts?

BTW Wifffeee came home last evening!

.

488 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:33:44am

St Pancake!
Did you buy the kitty fountain?

489 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:33:45am

Zulu
LOL
Tell me about it !

FYI:

The Fucking Universe
will now be co-Ruled by Zulu and Babba
who will exchange keys
to the Zionist Death Ray
every other month
Zulu has it for August, so watch your asses!

490 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:33:50am

477 zulubaby

Will Flemish do?

Carbonnade de boeuf a la Flamande

491 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:34:17am

#475 Killgore Trout - I don't understand this; Charles hisownself said it would be on about 8 hours after 11:32 AM Pacific and it's still not on? But it got like a 5 star rating! Was it on earlier- has anyone heard it? Anyone at all?

492 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:35:21am

BENZ

She's HOME?
Mazel Tov
Mazel Tov
Mazel Tov!

493 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:35:27am

Howdy, Jim
Today. Yesterday ended up being very long. :) Yeah, I know. The two are already complaining.

494 Salem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:35:35am

The bomb alert is called off. The backpack didn't contain any explosives. Just some batteries, a clock, a compass and a pocketknife, but wrapped in duck tape.

Probably a fan of McGuyver...

495 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:35:41am

Three more loose bolts found in Ted Williams Tunnel

Well, hey, what do you expect when you use Mob labor, concrete, and other materials? You get what you overpay for.

/sooner or later, prominent Bonkey politicians are going to take the pipe for this debacle/sham

496 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:36:14am

Hey babba!
From Isaiah:

They that wait upon the Lord shall renew theiri strength. They shall mount up with wings like eagles. They shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint.
497 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:36:31am
The Fucking Universe
will now be co-Ruled by Zulu and Babba
who will exchange keys
to the Zionist Death Ray
every other month
Zulu has it for August, so watch your asses!

Babba, LOLOL! I think we need to have that printed on flyers and then ask the IAF if they wouldn't mind distributing them ...

498 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:36:39am

#487 BenZacharia - YOur wife came home last night? THAT'S TERRIFIC! I'm so happy for you both, but I'm not gonna give up praying and wishing you both the best!
How is she doing, ok I hope?

499 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:37:16am

#486 Jim

Oh, you're right: wierods not weirods:

Have a nice day you bunch of racist scum, crusaders and wierods!11

What passes for political analysis on the left. :-)

500 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:37:43am

Ben, Congrats!

501 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:37:45am
502 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:38:36am

She answered your question herself, realwest! LOL!

"waving to Texas!"

503 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:39:26am

"waving to Pa"

504 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:39:53am

I'm feeling frisky today...

505 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:40:06am

#485 St. Pancake
G'mornin'
#491 realwest
I heard it live yesterday afternoon. I don't think anyonyone's been able to pull up the archived audio yet.

506 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:40:10am

{[{BenZ!}]}

Woo-hooo!

507 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:40:37am

Well, Romania is viewing the "I dream of Genie" doll.

Doll

Miguel
Are you here?

508 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:40:52am

#483 zulubaby - Hi ya Zulubaby! I'm doing sort of so so. Tired (from staying up so late hoping to hear the Prager interview) and a tad nervous over getting my last step of the root canal from hell finished this afternoon (I hope)!
Hey if you and Babba are alrernating Queens of the Fucking Universe, I wanna be King!

509 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:40:53am

BenZacharia :-) Mazel Tov on your wife coming home!

Sleipnir, are you cooking that for me?

510 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:41:13am

zulubaby ~
I bet they would love to, LOL
That would be
"DA BOMB"

511 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:42:28am

good morning AI

512 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:42:54am

Pouring coffee

513 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:42:59am

No kings

rotating concubines

514 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:43:19am

The world's nightmare -- Jews with guns.

515 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:43:31am
516 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:43:37am

#503 St. P.

I just checked the lava lamp. Nothing much apart from some guy

seeking woman

and "online" at that. He'd also included the word "sina" - which escapes me.

517 mbruce  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:44:41am

Power was out for 12 hours,118F,was actually told by a PG&E rep that the substation that serves my area will always have trouble when the temps are over 100F, it cannot handle the load, and that I should "just learn to live with it".They will not upgrade the unit,nothing can be done because people keep adding electric contraptions.I think I need to talk to my gubmint officials,this is ridiculous, the East Bay of SF ,where rather than build more power plants or upgrade the system we are told "conservation of power is the only way". The LLLs want to turn Ca into a 3rd world country.

518 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:44:45am
519 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:45:02am

AI

Sorry Darlin'

You have to be Jewish to use the RAY
It wont work for you...

LOL!

520 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:45:09am

#485 St. Pancake Morning! where the heck are ya?

521 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:45:33am

513- Where does the line start?

522 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:45:38am

#512 pancakes:

rrRRRrrr :P

/see also #504

523 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:45:40am

AI~ I am better than yesterday yes, thanks

524 Westward Ho  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:45:43am

#432,Zulubaby

Thanks, I just started reading these newspapers to keep myself updated on the war as Israeli papers are the first to break news. Does the IDF have embedded journalists because there is precious little coverage of the siege of Bint Jubeil

525 BenZacharia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:45:51am

Babba, realwest, St. Pancake, Slpnr, GJ et al.

She was is SOOO happy, she got a little misty eyed . Using her walker, taken 'bout 2# (10 different drugs) pills a day.

She slept like a babe, got up about 20 minutes ago took her morning regimen and went back to bed just 'cuz she could.

Making b-berry muffins for her breakfast, sshhh! its going to be a surprise.


.

526 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:46:07am

Sleipnir
Am disappointed actually. Was hoping for something juicy for this am.

527 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:46:14am
528 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:46:51am

And they say feminism is dead.
I gotta go to work to support my three ladies. Y'all play nice, zulubaby, GJ stay safe

529 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:46:55am

#509 zulubaby

Sleipnir, are you cooking that for me?

No, be cold by the time I'd flown it over to the States for you. :-)

530 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:47:16am

#514 zulubaby - ya mean Meyer Lansky?! ;>)

531 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:48:09am
532 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:48:38am

Seriously, the Arab world and Europe are becoming interchangeable. If you look at their reactions to this war, they are all absolutely panicked.

533 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:48:59am

# 446 JiV

Well, declines in two of the world's most important fields isn't exactly encouraging.

534 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:50:22am
535 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:50:33am

Real
I am back home. Trip went by too fast, lol! I think I made LoLady ill though. Sh has a cold. :(
Hehe, Golden
Mas cafe?

536 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:50:38am

# 448 K B

Oh, the Saudis, Iraqis, Iranians will be exporting oil long after I'm gone. I'm talking price here.

537 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:51:01am

BENZ


I publicly thank GOD
for sending her home

Praise God in His sanctuary; praise Him in the firmament of His power

[Link: www.mechon-mamre.org...]
amazing...
and fast too.

538 amrilusaguy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:51:05am

524 westward

no the IDF does not and news that comes from the front is heavily cleansed before publication

re the longbow that crashed yesterday

539 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:51:38am
540 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:52:00am

526 St. Pancake

Someone has just come here on an Algerian IP from French MSN search, looking for:

sadat sexy

I don't know what the ladies think, but he did nothing for me ...

541 Joseph  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:52:02am

Examples of Arab Justice:

Abdul Wahhab al-Kayyali, a Palestinian academic with whom I had studied in London in the late 1960s; he had used the newly-opened British archives on Palestine to write a thesis on the 1936 Palestinian revolt, then returned to the region and tried to set up his own guerrilla group only to be murdered, probably by the Syrians

Ghassan Kanafani, the Palestinian novelist and spokesmen for the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (whom I had interviewed at length for the New Left Review); he was killed in an Israeli car bomb in 1972

Salim al-Lawzi, the Lebanese journalist who had moved his weekly al-Hawadith to London when the war began; he returned for his mother's funeral and was captured by the Syrians, who smashed his writing hand before they killed him

Nasser Said, the head of the Saudi left-wing nationalist party, with whom I had lunched on the sunlit Beirut cornice; in 1979 he was kidnapped by Yasser Arafat's security forces, handed over to the Saudis and never seen again

Malcolm Kerr, the American academic and author of some of the best books on inter-Arab politics, killed in his office at the AUB in 1983

Leigh Douglas, one of the few fellow British academics who had worked on modern Yemen; he was killed by supporters or agents of Libya as he left a nightclub in April 1986, a few days after the United States bombing of Tripoli (for which Muammar Gaddafi blamed Margaret Thatcher as well as the Americans).

542 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:52:17am

#482 Jim in Virginia - Morning Jim! Three miles? Well, I walked from the bed to the kitched to start the coffee, that probably burnt almost 2 whole calories! LOL!.
Your dog had "doggie ADD"? ROTFLMAO!

543 TMF  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:52:18am

THe MSM Hate-Israel machine is in full swing

Check out this Powerline post (scroll down) showing a staged "mourning" photo with wailing burqa-heads,

The numbers above their heads are written in western, not arabic numerals.

Wonder why?

LOL eat it up you lefty dumbasstards

544 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:52:38am
AI wrote
I am very good at pressing buttons...


now THAT
made me really laugh...

545 TMF  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:53:13am

Forgot to link

THe MSM Hate-Israel machine is in full swing

Check out this Powerline post (scroll down) showing a staged "mourning" photo with wailing burqa-heads,

The numbers above their heads are written in western, not arabic numerals.

Wonder why?

LOL eat it up you lefty dumbasstards

546 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:55:31am
547 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:56:01am

Wow, Babba, awesome video.

548 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:56:23am

#532 zulubaby

Seriously, the Arab world and Europe are becoming interchangeable. If you look at their reactions to this war, they are all absolutely panicked.

Yeah, but much of both is probably secretly hoping that Hizbollah gets a good pasting, too.

Not that the Sunnis mind dead Jews (or dead any non-Muslims, for the matter of that) but they are scared of Iran.

549 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:58:17am

#517 mbruce 118 degrees? Holy SHit - where do you live again, Death Valley?! LOL! How do you cope with that kind of heat? Serious question guy!
"The LLLs want to turn Ca into a 3rd world country." I thought they'd finished that task and were now into turning 3rd world countries into 4th world countries (e.g. Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia)?!

550 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 2:59:07am

Sleipnir
Yeah, I know.
India is looking for

nuked girls on the beach
551 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:00:18am

Z-babe
I love that one
I've been watching it a few times a week ...makes me feel better,
it's like medicine... :~P
I thought it was amazing
that it's on google video, too

552 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:01:36am
553 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:02:34am
And always on the horizon, the double-hulled supertankers.

Are there any economists here?

What would be the implications if the US and Canada formed an energy/trade bloc whereby the US bought nearly all of its petroleum from Canadain order to avoid entanglement with OPEC nations? I know this is counter to the notions of the free market and free trade, but would it work?

I also know that it would not affect revenues to the oil ticks very much since they would simply sell to other countries. However it seems that it would offer some protection against the vicissitudes of Middle Eastern events...

Canada has enough oil to supply the US for at least 100 years at current rates of usage. Even if usage grew dramatically we could still probably last 40-50 years, by which time we should have viable alternatives.

554 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:02:48am

#550 St. Pancake

India is looking for

nuked girls on the beach

Let's hope that one doesn't become a reality on Indian beaches.

With Pakistan constructing "a new heavy water reactor capable of producing enough plutonium for up to 50 warheads a year" who knows?

555 Muck DeFuslims  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:03:05am

Condosleeza babbling about the innocent 'palestinian' people and the 'humiliation' they face.

She makes me sick.

556 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:03:29am

#535 St. Pancake {St. Pancake} whaddya mean you're home already? I thought you and littleoldlady and/or Carlos whatisname where gonna spend like a week together?
Didja have a good time?Have a real PhillyCheesesteak? See the Mint and Liberty Bell and the what's left of where our founding fathers met to draft and sign the declaration of Independence? If so, you've seen all of Philly worth seeing!
(ducks and runs walks for cover)!

557 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:04:27am
558 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:05:20am

# 553 P-B C

Compare Canada's annual (or daily - whatever) oil exports with the equivalent US annual/daily imports. Notice the extremely large difference ? Need I say more ?

559 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:05:24am

News item:

Pavarotti 'will return to stage'

I hope they've strengthened it, then.

560 Westward Ho  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:05:32am

#538, Amrilusaguy,

Thanks, & may the IDF give those death heads a royal Hizbollocking. I have a feeling that the quagmire shriekers are going to make an appearance very soon.

561 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:06:03am

Howdy, Real
Saw that, and more. Lol! LoLady took me for a philly sandwich, yes. :)
I think I wore her out. Not fun to run around with a history teacher in Philly. Lol! Hell, I wore myself out.

562 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:06:11am

15-year old girl killed by rocket in Galilee. I could be sick.

563 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:06:21am
I hope they've strengthened it, then.

bwahahahahahahahahaaa

564 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:06:25am

#546 AI:

AI wrote
I am very good at pressing buttons...

Certain mental images, comment witheld.

565 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:06:25am
566 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:08:00am

I cant look I dont even have the TV on..

567 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:08:17am

#548 Sleipnir - honestly, except for Syria and Iran, Hamas and Fatah, I think the whole WORLD WANTS TO SEE Hizbollah get a good pasting, too!
Well, except of course maybe for France...they're too busy checking Landis' urine for the eleventymillionth time to even notice!

568 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:08:30am

Ok, Sleipnir
Our buddy from Bahrain is looking for

naked arabs

Any naked Arabs will do, I assume. Anyone have an image of a naked Arafish?

569 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:08:50am

St. P,

I've decided to live. ;-)

zulubaby,

The Philadelphia Inquirer printed that picture you linked (yesterday?) of the Merkava crew mourning on the front page of the paper.

It's not on the website, but here's the article that went with it:

Young Israelis, fresh from the front, recount clash

I'm sure it's my cold meds that made me laugh at this:

Bar Joseph said he believed the IDF was caught flat-footed and without plans for a ground deployment. It had assumed there would be an international outcry if Israel entered a sovereign country, he said.

Instead, from unexpected quarters in Europe and the Arab world, at varying degrees of volume, the word was, "Keep hitting Hezbollah," he said. "And now Israel has to do something" to take advantage of the relative support it is enjoying.

"Wait a minute...we're allowed to fight back?!"

570 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:08:51am
571 amrilusaguy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:09:49am

560 westward

they already have
but they arent making much noise and few are noticing

572 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:10:07am

#564 Golden Jerusalem - Hi GJ! How are you and how's your friend who caught a lot of shrapnel last night (day? whenever)? Didja see him at all?

573 TMF  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:10:21am

zulubaby

15 year old girl killed in Gaililee

It will be interesting to see if the Israelis parade her corpse around like a skinned chicken like the moooslims did in Tyre.

It will be interesting to see if there are front page pictures of her coffin in the NY Times or the Guardian

/this world is beyond surreal

574 ChicagoBlue  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:11:31am

Good Morning One and All!

Happy overcast Tuesday to my American Infidel neighbor!

Warm thoughts to BabbaZee!

I don't get to listen to Rush during work, but I print out his transcripts to read on the way home, here's a bit of what he said yesterday:

But in this case, it's a religion, and you can't argue with a religion. You really can't argue.
They're articles of faith and so forth. What you have here is an ideology that is bent on world domination as best it can, that hides behind a religion in practically every way it can. It's very smart, by the way, in doing this. I don't think this is happenstance or coincidental. These guys are also, I think, more dangerous than the old communists were because the communists operated out of nation states...

But these Islamofascists, I think, are even more dangerous because it only takes a handful of them to unleash all kinds of hell, and they don't have to conquer countries to do it. They just have to move in, just have to move in and establish a neighborhood. Just have to establish a mosque.

575 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:11:33am

#557 American Infidel

As you say, Hizbollah hope for as much loss of life as possible, including among Shi'ites:

Hezbollah is not only happy to kill as many Jews as possible, it is not bothered by the deaths of Shiite Muslims as well and has thus strategically based many of their rockets directly in the middle of Shiite residential districts.

Almost unbelieveably depraved people.

Why Israel's Reaction is Right

576 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:12:02am

PA detains Gazan editor for 'libel'

Palestinian editor from the Gaza Strip was detained on Monday by the Palestinian Authority for publishing a story about the theft of $400,000 from PA Foreign Minister Mahmoud Zahar while he was on a visit to Kuwait earlier this year.

The story implied that Zahar was carrying large amounts of cash while Palestinians in the Gaza Strip were deprived of financial aid.

This is the first time since the Hamas government took over that a Palestinian journalist has been detained for publishing a story that reflects negatively on one of its leaders. In the past, a number of Palestinian journalists who dared to criticize former PA chairman Yasser Arafat or his top aides were assassinated, imprisoned or beaten.

Hamas leaders claim that the PA media, which is largely controlled by the rival Fatah party, has been waging a campaign of incitement against the Islamic movement and its leaders over the past few months. The detention of the editor is clearly designed to send a warning to all Fatah-affiliated reporters and media outlets.

577 TMF  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:12:39am

By the way, if NATO is refusing to commit to Lebanon,

AND Iraq

AND to any significant degree in Afghanistan (face it, it's mainly US)

AND in Iran (no doubt, when it comes to a head)

WHAT F'ING PURPOSE DOES THIS PILE OF CRAP SERVE?

Maybe NATO wants to wait until Europe is nuked to commit troops.

Disband NATO and the UN

578 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:13:43am
579 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:14:41am
#565 American Infidel

Ohhh come now, she is a diplomat and they must speak that way...

After all, you know the US government really has a grand strategy & they know what they are doing...

/sarc

ISLAM IS PEACE ! ! !

Who, exactly is saying Islam is Peace, within the last three years?

/Condi is out there, doing things, you're not qualified to wipe her ass

580 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:14:47am

Hey ChicagoBlue!

St. P

Anyone have an image of a naked Arafish?

[BLINK]

[Link: www.oyvey.co.il...]

581 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:15:32am
582 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:15:47am

Iran threatens response if Syria attacked

Iranian Ambassador to Lebanon Mohammad-Reza Sheybani says 'Israel can't deal with our capabilities; Lebanon war beginning of end of Israel'

583 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:15:49am

#568 St. Pancake - " Anyone have an image of a naked Arafish? " - Oh great, first you give lol a bad cold, now you made me spew what little breakfast I can eat.
Go have some real coffee and please give spew alerts in the future.

#569 Littleoldlady - glad you decided to live! How did she give you a cold without having one herself? Did she pick it up (so to speak) from Carlos and just passed it along?!). Listen some cold med's can make you feel really good! LOL!

584 red meat conservative  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:16:10am

Today was a terrible day in Israel. There have been scores of casualties

Why are they still able to fire rockets at will?

585 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:16:18am

#570 AI:

LOLOL...

Hiya Golden ! ! !

How are you?!?!?


Not bad, you?

I'm feelin' frisky :D

I think I'm going to treat myself to a little surprise today, hehe

/Well actually, since I'm treating myself it won't be a surprise at all, really, will it?

586 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:16:34am

#567 realwest

And clueless bien pensants everywhere, who still haven't seen through all the propaganda that's demonized Israel these last 40 years.

587 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:16:47am

#580 BabbaZee,

That does it. Now I'm REALLY SICK!

Good day, ALL!™

May G-d protect the iDF and all the people of Israel!

588 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:17:37am

Lil'Ole
eee-ooo I know
bwahahhaha

have a good day

589 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:17:48am

#580 BabbaZee - I'm not gonna look. Nope. Never realized you were so cruel however! How could you?

590 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:19:04am

#568 St. Pancake

Here is a photograph of a naked Arab for the Bahrain visitor.

591 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:19:18am

Ahmadinejad sends letter to Chirac

Do they not have telephones in Iran that this lunatic is on a letter-writing campaign?

The Iranian Fars news agency reported that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sent a letter to his French counterpart Jacques Chirac.

Last week Ahmadinejad sent a letter to German Chancellor Angela Merkel, and two months ago he sent a letter to US President George Bush.

Bush must have laughed and laughed and laughed ...

592 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:19:33am

realwest,

Carlos and Juan...or was that Juan and Carlos...or was that Juan-Carlos (I may have been seeing double at that point) didn't seem at all sick to me.

In fact, he/they were pretty much perfect!

;-)

593 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:19:41am

Ew on the Arafish images, lol!

594 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:20:24am

And
the Da'wa
keeps rollin'
alooong

595 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:21:02am
596 St. Pancake  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:21:12am

Lol, Sleipnir

Carlos, Juan, and the Amish elder were delectably decadent. :) I got their email addys, btw. :)

597 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:21:16am
598 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:21:18am

realwest, good luck with the root canal -- may that be the last of it!

599 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:22:56am

Who has that one of Arafat as a fat lady?

600 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:23:52am
601 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:25:08am
602 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:25:36am
Hizballah rocket hits mosque in Galilee
Watch for the international outcry against Hizballah for violating the sanctity of holy sites. Watch for anti-Hizballah demonstrations by Muslims worldwide.

But don't hold your breath.

"Report: Rocket Hits Mosque, Three Injured," from Israel National News, with thanks to Sr. Soph:

(IsraelNN.com) A Hizbullah terrorist rocket hit an Arab mosque in the Galilee and injured one person critically and slightly wounded at least three others, according to preliminary report

. [Link: jihadwatch.org...]

603 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:26:00am

She is hideous.

604 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:26:04am

577 TMF

Disband NATO and the UN

The former was a product of the Cold War and intended to guard against invasion by Warsaw Pact forces. That purpose has gone. It should be reformed to reflect changing circumstances. Israel should be a member for a start - an attack on a Nato member is taken as an attack on all. That's how it should be if Israel is attacked.

605 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:28:55am

War Analysis

Progress is steady but sadly, as in any war, there have been losses. I have said very little about this through most of the war. It really is different when it is your son that doe not come back. My heart goes out to all of those Israelis and Arab non-Hezbollah parents who have lost loved ones in this war. War really is hell, you have up to 3/4 of a million people displaced from their homes and innocent lives have been lost. All because G-d told Hezbollah it is OK to kill and murder Jews. Or they say that is what He said. We cannot be blind to the suffering of other nor fools as to who caused it in the first place.

Gaza- Finally some movement in the right direction. As posted above, suddenly Palestinians have reached the shocking conclusion that Gilad should be released unconditionally and the rockets will stop.

To quote the great fictional character, Inigo Montoya, "humiliation galore!" Hamas leader Marzook said they would never stop and now every Pali terror group is promising to stop, in exchange for nothing more than alleviation of the pressure and for Israel to consider releasing prisoners in the future. If this were to actually happen, in just a few months Hamas got elected took their people into a losing war, failing in every single objective they fought for- voters will love that. I don't think this is yet the normalcy that I wrote about yesterday, but it is reality being imposed on the surreally minded and a step in the right direction.

The North

Bashar Assad, you in or are you out? You have a seven three in the whole and three aces are showing, do you move all in and hope Israel is holding a six and a two?

Israel's use of limited forces in the North is risky if Syria rolls over the border in force. You would not want to be in the units that get hit with that initial assault. Of course you really would not want to be one of the units making that assault because, within a few hours of making your attack, Israel's counter attack will knock the Syrians into oblivion. Far more of Israel's troops in Lebanon will survive than Syrians charging in in on 35 year old vintage soviet death traps.

If Bashar was smart he would have folded long ago, he would have folded as soon as Israel responded strongly in Gaza and certainly after Israel mobilized and moved on Lebanon with the stated intention of destroying Hezbollah.

Put it this way, the Egyptians and Saudis are not backing him, the US administration blames him in no small part for starting this war, what can possibly be keeping this man from saying "my bad" and changing course before it is too late? Everyone in the room can see he doe not have the cards except him. Our Syrian weasel continue to miscalcualte and compound small mistakes with larger ones.

On the ground, Israel keeps pressing on. The Hezbollah infrastructure and units are being ripped up systematically. All good. But it takes time.

If Hamas is broken and suing for peace, Hezbollah, Iranian backing or no, will eventually be forced to follow. The only thing worse than fighting Israel on a two front war is doing so on a one front war. It will be some days yet before these dogs kneel but kneel they will.

The Israeli Home Front

Unity is power. Something like 80% of Israelis fully support the government in the war. When Shimon Peres sounds like Ariel Sharon in 1980, the enemy should know that Israeli society is strong, unified and dead set on winning the war. The IDF high command can be criticized for not running the most brilliant war since 1967, but they are competent and getting the job done at the lowest possible price in human life to all concerned. They have inflicted far more that the 150 or so announced enemy casualties; the IDF will shortly control S. Lebanon and stop the short range rockets. Once that is done, Condi gets first crack at peacefully getting out the long range stuff and the Heb disarmed.

606 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:30:05am
Iran: U.S. Planned War to Obtain Oil
15:13 Jul 25, '06 / 29 Tammuz 5766

(IsraelNN.com) An Iranian government minister has charged the United States of planning a war in the Middle East in order to obtain oil fields under the guise of promoting peace.

The country's defense minister also said that the Arab world considers American Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice a "disdain."

Wow Howard Dean is in Iran.
[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

607 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:30:13am
608 Mal' Rider  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:30:17am

littleoldlady -

You live in N.J.? Cool.

I was born and raised for most of my life in Southern New Jersey. I still claim Brigantine Beach, N.J. as one of my favorite places to return home to, along with the Leeward side of Oahu.
I went back to 'Jersey to see my family while on leave from the Army in 2000. I took Route 40 through my old hometown of Elmer, and was proud to see a lot of the folks there still fly a small American flag from their front porch.

Very cool.

New Jersey is a great state - don't let anyone tell "youse guys" otherwise.
;)

609 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:30:35am

#591 zulubaby

Thanks for the tip. I hope this one is published. Merkel's wasn't, which is a shame because people like Robert Spencer would have had some interesting things to say about it.

610 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:31:57am
611 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:32:46am

John Podheretz nails the quintessential question of our time:

TOO NICE TO WIN? ISRAEL'S DILEMMA

What if Israel has every capability of achieving its aim, but cannot unleash itself against a foe more dangerous, more unscrupulous, more unprincipled and more barbaric than even the monstrous leaders of the Intifada it managed to quell after years of suicide attacks?

And as for the United States, what if we have every tool at our disposal to win a war - every weapons system we could want manned by the most superbly trained military in history - except the ability to match or exceed our antagonists in ruthlessness?

Until we can answer these questions we can never, ever win this war.

612 Muck DeFuslims  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:33:14am

Couldn't help but wonder while Condosleeza was busy kissing Abu Mazen's ass... and telling him how much Americans admire and respect him... and how she laments the humiliation of the palestinian people...and how Israel must be pressured to allow palestinians and materials free passage through Israel...and how terribly the innocents of palestine and lebanon are suffering (she managed to add "and innocent Israelis as well' as an afterthought)...
How many people in the PA audience in attendance were Hamas members democratically elected by the innocent palestinian people ?
And how many democratically elected Hezbollah members were in attendance when she met with the innocent Lebanese government yesterday ?

613 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:33:28am

Non-Thought for the Day:

"Beavis and Butthead do Mecca," that I would like to see.

"Like dude, what is that big ugly black thing?"

614 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:34:25am

607

its called the da'wa BTW

615 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:34:26am

A Hizbollah rocket has hit a mosque:

[Link: www.arutzsheva.com...]

Don't expect outrage from CAIR.

616 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:34:36am

GOLDEN JERUSALEM Hey guy - you still with us? Hows your bud doing?

617 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:36:06am
The country's defense minister also said that the Arab world considers American Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice a "disdain."

Yeah, whatever that means. Idiots. It's no surprise though, since women are third-class citizens in the Arab world. Why would they respect Rice? They hate women so a powerful women is really going to scare the life out of them. She's probably more educated than a thousand of these drooling fools.

618 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:36:32am
7 American Infidel ...Ahmadjinn may be setting the stage for full blown jihad...

Yup...What Robert Spencer said would happen over at Jihad Watch...Very smart man ...Thank GOD for LGF and Jihad Watch.

619 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:36:41am
620 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:37:16am

#558 Mike C.

Compare Canada's annual (or daily - whatever) oil exports with the equivalent US annual/daily imports. Notice the extremely large difference ? Need I say more ?

Yes, you do need to say more because you don't understand the situation. Canada is ALREADY the largest single supplier of oil to the US. The Alberta tar sands--if fully ramped up--can supply more than enough oil to meet the entire US demand.

Hence the question.

621 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:37:40am
622 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:39:16am
Ahmadjinn may be setting the stage for full blown jihad...

As far as I can tell, Ahmadwhatever has full-blown schizophrenia.

623 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:39:48am
624 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:39:59am

Yet another call for a
"day of rage"

like they ever have a day without rage.

Palestinians demonstrate against Rice

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Leaflets distributed in the West Bank and Gaza by representatives of several Palestinian factions called for a "day of rage" [a euphemism for violent protests] against Rice's visit. The groups also called on Abbas to refrain from meeting with Rice.

625 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:41:29am

Who is Hugh Fitzgerald anyway? He is beyond brilliant.

626 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:42:03am
627 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:42:26am

#596 St. Pancake - AHA! I just KNEW there was an Amish guy involved! Didn't it make you wonder why all their e-mails were somethingsomthing @gmail or hotmail. com?
Ya gotta be carefull with them City Slickers!

628 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:43:53am

American Infidel...After the first letter...Robert said there would be more...So far one to the Pope...Germany and now France...You know...I dont remember if Blair got one.

629 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:44:02am
630 Trumanite  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:44:48am

552 American Infidel 7/25/2006 05:01AM PDT
Anyone listen to Rush yesterday?!?!

If I am not mistaken, yesterday was the first time that Rush talked about the islamocrazies and how their 'movement' is all religiously based...

How ingenious it is, because no one dares to criticize a 'religion'...

I believe Rush had his first break through yesterday...

Another thing he did was to (much too mildly) rebuke the senile fool William F Buckley, Jr.

631 tigger2005  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:45:17am

# 67 American Infidel

I kinda like the fact that Ahmadinejad is sending letters to everyone declaring his intent to wage war on them if they don't accept Islam. Surely everyone by now must know what such letters mean. Maybe he'll send letters to the Chinese, Japanese, Russians, Aussies, Indians, Canadians, etc. Send the whole world an open declaration of war if they don't accept Islam. Smart move.

When Hitler declared war on America, most of his generals wet their pants. Some folks in Iran must be getting a little nervous about Ahmadinnerjacket declaring war against the whole world.

632 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:45:57am

# 620 P-B C

Yes, and if we "fully developed" (whatever the hell that means) the oil shales in the western US and the gas shales in the eastern US, Canada would be importing from us. Or if we could figure out how to get the methane out of the gas hydrates on the eastern continental shelf of N.A., we could all be happy. Better yet, we at least conceptually know how to mine the atmosphere of Titan and put huge solar radiation collectors in orbit. But I thought you wanted to talk economics ?

BTW, I understand the situation rather well. Comes from that 32+ years in the oil and gas industry.

633 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:46:13am

#614 BabbaZee - What's a da'wa ?

634 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:48:22am

Real

the Da'wa
is the official
"invitation to islam" that preceedes
a violent jihad
IOW
it's the Dhimmi call
Convert or die

it is an engraved invitation
to war
or submission

[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

What’s Dawa? Although a common Islamic proper noun, Dawa is actually a dynamic, an obligatory duty (fard) for Muslims of all sects and degrees of (im)moderation. Muslims call it “inviting others to Islam.” Really, it’s proselytizing, which Islam encourages the faithful to achieve at any cost. In fact, al-Qaeda lieutenant Abu ‘Ubeid Al-Qurashi boasted last year that September 11th gave Islam enormously effective publicity. It also marked the launch of a massive global Dawa campaign. Al-Qurashi called Dawa “integral to triumph in fourth-generation warfare

.”

635 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:48:26am

#623 American Infidel

R.S. calls him "the thug in chief".

But can any reasonable and informed person retain any doubt they he intends further major mischief, anyway? He's been explicit enough as to what he intends.

Here's Amir Taheri:

The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

636 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:48:27am

AI, he doesn't have his own website, right? He just posts at Jihad Watch? What a mind this guy has! I'd just love to know who he is.

For those who are unaware of this man, go ... here.

Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald

637 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:49:22am
638 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:52:09am

zulubaby
Hugh Fitzgerald
he is VP Jihad Watch
a writer & lecturer
he speaks on the manipulation of language
quite often
[Link: www.google.com...]

639 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:52:09am
Military Intelligence: Syrian army now at its highest state of alert
Yadlin says Hezbollah interested in dragging Syria into fighting; Syrian army still on defensive alert


[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

640 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:53:13am
641 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:53:50am

#636 zulubaby

He's amazing, isn't he? There seems to be little around of major importance that he's not read (in any of several languages) and thought about deeply.

642 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:55:32am
643 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:56:35am

Babba, Sleipnir -- he fascinates me. I wonder if he used to be a Muslim. He knows so much. How does his head keep all that information contained? LOL.

644 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:57:25am

Way, way, way OT, but there's a race about ready to start, for 4 boats rowing across the N. Atlantic. The record time is still held by the guys that first did it in 1896.

645 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:57:28am
646 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:58:53am

643 zulubaby
GOD bless him..
no I do not think he was ever a Muslim

647 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:59:18am
These same things will happen all over the world given enough time if we stand around idly. Open a history book: Islam is spread by the Sword and not by Peace. Time after time after time we can see the pattern. And now we are witnessing it on the morning news with our cereal.

Enough talk of "terrorists", "youths", "insurgents". Let's start talking about Muslims. Let's start talking about the jihadis and the holy war these people wage against the world both subversively and overtly

[Link: www.foehammer.net...]

648 galloping granny  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:59:21am

Good morning All! How're you feeling today BabbaZee?

So now the recipients have been:

-Fuance
-Germany
-USA
-the Vatican

I must admit that I am rather curious as to exactly what these letters say.

649 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:59:43am

#634 BabbaZee - Personally I don't think he's calling for a Da'wa with these extremely long and obtuse letters; I think he's hoping to get a publishing deal (maybe a joint venture with Huffington and Kos) for his Memoirs and Letters.
Even though I DO think he's cerifiably insane, even he has to know that Iran and Syria (with or without Hizbollah) have no chance to win anything - ALL the other Arab or Muslim leaders have been noticablly silent about his calls to rally round the muslim meme.
Partly cause they are rightfully scared of what the IDF may do to them, and partly cause they can't figure out why W is still cowboying up on them. This is NOT going according to their script, at all!

650 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 3:59:59am
Rice: There is a need to remain focused on establishing a Palestinian state (Reuters)

How does such a smart woman say something so dumb? Hamas are trying their absolute best to destroy Israel and she's living in La-La land, pretending that isn't happening. Drives. Me. To. Distraction.

651 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:00:29am

Hey Granny ~
I am servicable, thanks,
;~P
Nice to see you.

652 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:01:43am

Real, it's a da'wa, trust me...

653 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:01:47am

#642 AI

Yeah, agreed. The letter to President Bush appeared to contain a call to accept Islam not a declaration of war. It's merely that the former might be a prelude to an (effectively undeclared) attack.

R.S.:

In light of that, this letter could be -- but is not necessarily -- a prelude to an attack.

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

We don't know exactly what he said in the letter to Angela Merkel or Chirac either.

654 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:02:53am

Granny here's his letter to Bush:

[Link: 64.233.161.104...]

655 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:03:02am
#619 American Infidel

*gets on her knees and thanks G_D that I don't have such qualifications*

Though, I really do hope that you qualify for that duty Killian Bundy...

Well, whatever, you still haven't provided a link showing that anyone in the current Administration has referred to Islam as the "religion of peace" within the last three years, as you repeatedly post. Where's the linky?

Rayra, for one, has schooled you on this point, yet you refuse to accept reality.

/oh, I'm sorry, you know more than the Secretary of State and everyone else, for that matter, what have you done for our Country lately?

656 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:04:00am
It's merely that the former might be a prelude to an (effectively undeclared) attack.

Sleipnir
that's exactly what it is.

657 Homer_S  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:04:08am

Pray for Israel with me now!

Psalms 83,130,142.

658 ChicagoBlue  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:04:18am

zulubaby ~

How does his head keep all that information contained? LOL.

You have no idea how often I think the same thing about most Lizards!
I'm mostly blown away by the amount of information you all have stored up and seemingly at your fingertips.

Blown away.

659 amyc  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:04:27am

649 realwest. I think the guy actually believes his mahdi will jump on outta the well and help lead him to victory. No joke. I've puzzled at it and puzzled at it, and can't come up with any other reason for the guy's behavior.

660 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:04:54am

# 655 K B

You weren't the one that linked me to that picture of the brick wall last week, were you ?

661 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:06:36am

ChicagoBlue, I just keep a lot of links ;-)

662 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:07:06am
Realwest This is NOT going according to their script, at all!
652 BabbaZee 7/25/2006 06:01AM PDT
Real, it's a da'wa, trust me...

Mahmoud and the rest of Shia Islam think the 12th Imam will fly in like Superman and make the World Islamic for them...YES..THEY THINK THEY CAN WIN.

663 Trumanite  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:07:16am

640 American Infidel 7/25/2006 05:53AM PDT

Another thing he did was to (much too mildly) rebuke the senile fool William F Buckley, Jr.
===
Buckley Jr. is really an old man, isn't he like 80 something?!?

Yes

And is he Rush's conservative hero?!?

Yes.

But, to his credit, Limbaugh saw the need to point out Buckley's lack of comprehension.

He was more sad about it than angry. Kind of like someone must feel if their aged parent is "wandering".

He let one of the callers actually use the word "senile". That gave Limbaugh the chance to come across as the "defender" of Buckley's glorious past even while letting it be known that the old guy's noodle is cooked.

664 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:07:23am
#657 Homer_S 7/25/2006 06:04AM PDT
Pray for Israel with me now!

Psalms 83,130,142.

I'm with you

here's the links to these Pslams


83
[Link: www.mechon-mamre.org...]

130
[Link: www.mechon-mamre.org...]

142
[Link: www.mechon-mamre.org...]

665 amyc  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:08:03am

617 zulubaby. Don't forget that she is a black woman.

666 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:08:31am

#630 Trumanite - Forgive me for this, but I really HATE it when someone calls William F. Buckley a "senile old fool" - yes he's old and yes he has, of late, made some sorta foolish statements.
But he was, in my living memory, the first true Conservative Intellectual. And even at 79 or 80 can think circles around virtually any "conservative" I know. His "God and Man at Yale" was a seminal work for the Conservaive movement and he wrote it, jeebus, fifty or so years ago.
We all owe an enormous debt to Mr. Buckley. He was all too often the lone voice in the wilderness who refused to back down from any and every one.

667 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:08:41am

#643 zulubaby

Babba, Sleipnir -- he fascinates me. I wonder if he used to be a Muslim. He knows so much. How does his head keep all that information contained? LOL.

No way - he'd have said. He's said that the contributions from ex-Muslims like Ibn Warraq and Ali Sina are invaluable for our understanding, but it's clear he's coming from another direction himself - viz., an interest in geopolitics. His own specialty seems to be literature, particularly Russian literature.

668 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:09:09am

One of those days...

669 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:09:30am
670 3 wood  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:09:46am

Good Morning Lizards.

#553 Pro Bush Canuck

Are there any economists here?

What would be the implications if the US and Canada formed an energy/trade bloc whereby the US bought nearly all of its petroleum from Canadain order to avoid entanglement with OPEC nations? I know this is counter to the notions of the free market and free trade, but would it work?

1. As Mike C. pointed out above, the US daily consumption is higher than te Cnadian production, so that is not a match at this time.

2. Oil is a fungible good, with a world market, so buying from one specific producer will not appreciably impact the influence the middle east oil producers have on the world oils situation.

3. The issue really boils down to the elasticity of demand. Oil has an inelastic demand (demand does not drop much relative to a price increase). As long as that situation exists, major oil producers will be able to influence affairs around the world and consumers will be dependant upon their production.

4. The rising price of oil actually will bring about a new equilibrium in the long run (that is the economists favorite out, "in the long run", cause as Keynes said, in the long run we are all dead). As the price continues to rise, the consumer revalues their activities and decisions, in other words the opportunity costs change so their purchase decisions are altered accordingly. Also, the higher price encourages higher production and brings alternate sources into viability.


In other news, whatever affliction the Cubs have, the White Sox have also contracted.

And I think A-Rod just commited another error for the Yankees.

671 haakondahl  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:09:55am

Rami Khouri, Editor-at-large of the (I think) Beirut Daily Star, was telling lies on CNN. I'm really trying to catch flies with honey here.

To whom it may concern,

Please point out that Rami Khouri is incorrect from his first sentence, in which he states that "this is a conflict between Israel and Lebanon".

It is clearly not--as even he admits later in his speech, "Israel and Hez'b'Allah have been at war for twenty-five years". The problem is that he predicates his early arguments upon his initial falsehood. Because he so clearly does understand that Israel and Hez'b'Allah are at war, I cannot extend to him the benefit of the doubt--I call him a liar and so should you.

Good Job, Miles O'Brien, for at least offering a contrary point of view for him to consider briefly, but consider this; shouldn't you pursue a line of inquiry against a man who may or may not be shilling for a terrorist organization at least as forcefully as you would against American elected officials? His uncreditable statements leave much room for questioning.

Please recall that CNN has much to atone for with regards to trading integrity for access.

I am making this letter public on an online forum.

Thank You,

Haakon B. Dahl

haakon@haakondahl.com

672 galloping granny  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:10:41am

#652 Real, it's a da'wa, trust me...

Yes, I have to agree with you there. As I recall some minor parts of the US letter were released, but nary a whisper of what the other 3 contained.

#653 The letter to President Bush appeared to contain a call to accept Islam not a declaration of war.


A number of writers have made the point that it is required in Islam to offer the opportunity to convert prior to waging war. If the recipient rejects the call to islam war can proceed apace.

That WAS a declaration of war.

673 amrilusaguy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:11:28am

635 sleipner

very interesting reading

10x

674 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:11:47am

Situation normal I see.

675 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:12:10am

# 666 realwest

Congrats on the magic post #. But even more congrats on hitting the f'ing nail precisely on the head. WFB was damned near the lone voice of conservatism before a lot of people commenting on this blog were even born. Feh.

676 Sleipnir  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:13:07am

#666 realwest

But he was, in my living memory, the first true Conservative Intellectual.

How about Edmund Burke?

But he was Irish. You mean American - and in recent times, so I can't quibble. :-)

677 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:13:57am

Sleipnir, right. He's amazing as is Spencer as is Charles. We have our gems.

678 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:14:01am

#644 Mike C. PLEASE tell me these guys have some kinda boat with a motor along just in case? ROWING across the Atlantic? Are they out of their friggin minds?
btw, ya got a link for that?
double btw - how ya doing this evening?!

679 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:14:14am
fungible

Fungible FUHN-juh-buhl, adjective:
1. (Law) Freely exchangeable for or replaceable by another of like nature or kind in the satisfaction of an obligation.
2. Interchangeable.

noun:
1. Something that is exchangeable or substitutable. Usually used in the plural.


this is one of those words
that always cracks me up
for no known reason...

680 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:14:30am

660 Mike C.

You weren't the one that linked me to that picture of the brick wall last week, were you ?

That would be me, Mike.

Here you go...

Oh and Good Morning, Lizard Nation!

681 ChicagoBlue  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:15:12am

Peacekeeper! Good Morning!

Situation normal I see.

Ha, it's automatic, baby!

682 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:15:28am

Real & Mike C

Huzzah RE: WFB
I agree

683 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:15:29am
#660 Mike C.

You weren't the one that linked me to that picture of the brick wall last week, were you

I'm positive I didn't.

/but I get it, reluctantly, but with prejudice, for today

684 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:15:40am

GJ, what are you going through? LOL.

685 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:16:58am

So no-one has the animated jpeg of Arafat bellydancing?

686 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:18:04am
687 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:18:06am

Good morning/day/evening all.

Lenin Lives On In Today's Left

688 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:20:36am

killian bundy

click on the link in my post @ 680...it's a very useful tool.

689 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:22:31am

and then there's this:
Why Does Pinchy Pack? Part II

690 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:23:17am

# 670 3 wood

I am impress. Well, not with the baseball crapola, of course. But other than that...

691 Geepers  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:23:53am

American Infidel,

Did you ever take those pictures of your kitchen that you promised everyone?

692 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:24:18am

#676 Sleipnir - Edmund Burke? I said in my living memory! Jeebus, how old do you think I am (DON'T ANSWER THAT!);>)


#675 Mike C. - thanks for that. I still remember Buckley physically trying to beat the shit out of Gore Vidal on national TV at the '68 Dem convention! Not only the lone voice (nearly) but truly unafraid. If anyone, ANYONE has earned his props as a conservative intellectual, it is Buckley.

693 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:24:31am

♪ Good morning {LGF}! ♪

We have a rainy, humid day today but I have no complaints 'cause I'll be on vacation at the end of the day.

:D

And how is the Lizard Nation this morning?

694 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:24:53am

3 wood

Good Morning, my friend!

Long time no see...

Hope you are having a good summer.

How's the golf game?

695 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:25:17am
696 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:25:30am

Benjy Hillman: In appreciation

May he rest in eternal peace.

697 haakondahl  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:25:31am

FUCK!

Unbelievable! Just after John Roberts said "Let's try not to get this road sign so we don't give away our location," he orchestrated a 360 degree camera sweep which INCLUDED THE SIGN.

I hope John Roberts and his cameraman are abandoned across the border to see how they fare with people as careless with life as Roberts crew is!

Credit to Joh Roberts for at least trying to communicate the goal to his cameraman, but it was ALL FOR NOTHING because of the STUPID AMATEUR LACK OF PREPARATION TO SHOOT FOOTAGE IN A WAR ZONE. You should ALL know exactly what to shoot and what not to shoot. If the cameraman is going to rely up the excuse that he didn't know what the sign said, then first, he shouldn't be there if he can't tell a road sign when he sees one, and second, John Roberts TOLD HIM WHAT IT WAS AND WHAT TO DO!

But the credit is undeserved, as in the end, all his admonition to the cameraman did was DRAW ATTENTION TO THE ROAD SIGN.

To add insult to injury, John Roberts then made reference to some bizarre alternate history version of the 1967 Six-Day War in which the "unprepared Arab armies were swiftly defeated by the surprise Israeli attack". This is a filthy re-write of the fact that the Arab armies had mobilized and were poised to attack Israel. Otherwise, there would not have been enough Arab army within range of attack too begin with.

Read some history instead of just making it up. For starters, try googling "U thant" and "Gamal abdel nasser" together, and see what you get.

I just finished writing you people a polite letter, and then I see this. Perhaps my mistake was in treating you as professionals. Your context is wrong (1967), your skewed interviews are uninformed by facts (Rami Khouri), and your conduct in a war zone is beneath reproach (John Roberts giving away the location of an Israel column at the border).

Haakon B. Dahl

698 vxbush  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:25:42am

Miss Trixie

Not well; massive migraine today. Can we please turn the lights off and have everyone whisper?

/groan

699 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:26:47am

692 realwest

Good Morning!

I still remember Buckley physically trying to beat the shit out of Gore Vidal on national TV at the '68 Dem convention!

Really? I wish I had been around to see that one...I was still two years away from coming into this world. :D

/ducking.

700 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:27:07am
701 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:27:30am

#674 Peacekeeper - morning PK! How's things at ole PK Swamp Manor these days?!

702 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:29:32am

# 678 realwest

No, no motor. Who wants to row dead weight that far ? Not to mention the weight of the fuel. Doing OK so far.

# 680 loppyd

My bad. But you get my drift, neh ?

# 683 K B

Can you say brick wall ? Sure you can !

703 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:29:45am

Good Morning {Miss Trixie}

Shaping up to be a beautiful day here on Boston's North Shore...hoping the weather holds up for my trip to the Vineyard later this week.

/fingers crossed

704 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:29:58am

haakondahl, good letters.

705 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:31:06am

Mike C.

I am impress.

You channeling Kim Jong?

:D

706 Geepers  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:31:09am

American Infidel (#700),

Didn't think so.

707 Trumanite  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:32:09am

#666 realwest 7/25/2006 06:08AM PDT
#630 Trumanite - Forgive me for this, but I really HATE it when someone calls William F. Buckley a "senile old fool" - yes he's old and yes he has, of late, made some sorta foolish statements.
But he was, in my living memory, the first true Conservative Intellectual. And even at 79 or 80 can think circles around virtually any "conservative" I know. His "God and Man at Yale" was a seminal work for the Conservaive movement and he wrote it, jeebus, fifty or so years ago.
We all owe an enormous debt to Mr. Buckley. He was all too often the lone voice in the wilderness who refused to back down from any and every one.


I can understand the way you feel.

Buckley's enormous contribution to the anti-Communist effort is what makes it so disappointing to see him not only not contributing, but being a nuisance and counterproductive against the current threat.

Perhaps Buckley doesn't deserve the "fool" part of my epithet. But, I really do believe he is going senile, which of course, is not his fault.

But, the rest of us have to figure out (as Dennis Miller said of Sen. Byrd) "what're we gonna do about grandpa?".

708 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:32:52am

#684 zulubaby:

GJ, what are you going through? LOL.

LOL, nuthin' special :P

Quite OK actually, 'cept I wanna get outta here already, go see my friend who has some extra chunks of metal in his legs and part with some of the old Dracula juice...

/work is killing me :-(

709 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:32:57am

# 700 AI

No kitchen remodel is "mini." I dread the very thought.

710 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:33:11am
#686 American Infidel

GWB is not special enough to have his quotes disregarded...

So, I guess no matter how many times he's (and his administration) subsequently uttered "war on Islamofacsism", or words to that effect, just doesn't satisfy you.

Lick yourself, you're an idiot of no consequence.

/sorry Mike C., I know I promised

711 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:33:46am

#699 loppyd {lopyd} - young punkess! But it was really cool. Vidal and Buckley were guest commentators and Vidal called Buckley a crypto-Nazi and wham, just like that, WFB lept out of his chair, fist cocked and bowled poor widdle Vidal out of his chair before they cut to a commerical (this was live TV - ya know, back in the day when the MSM couldn't edit to bits what someone actually said).
After the commercial, Vidal was gone and they (I think David Brinkly, but I'm not sure) asked WFG if he didn't think he (WFB) should apologize to Vidal and Buckley responded apropriately by saying Vidal should apologize for living! LOL! Even Brinkley had trouble not laughing at that!

712 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:36:35am

# 710 K B

Uh, er... Never mind.

713 galloping granny  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:36:43am

#687 frogmarch - Lenin Lives On In Today's Left

That article just about says it all.

Probably the single most frightening thing that I have ever experienced occurred late one night during my childhood. We were driving south to visit my grandmother and I was sleeping on the floor behind the front seat of the car. (No seatbelts in those days.) Suddenly I heard pounding and yelling - the noise woke me from a sound sleep. I lay there scared out of my wits listening the Kruschev's infamous UN speech - "We will destroy the US from within."

I've never forgotten that incident. And all that he outlined has nearly come to pass.

714 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:37:44am

711 realwest

Sorry for being fresh, but I couldn't resist. :D

Buckley responded apropriately by saying Vidal should apologize for living!

That is beautiful!

715 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:37:59am

ftw, I don't need this...

716 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:39:10am

# 711 realwest

I do believe I remember that. Watching the coverage from the dorm TV room at VPI. Heh.

717 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:40:35am

{Golden Jaaay}

718 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:41:00am

GJ, we have to find you a new job. It's not worth it to be in something that drains your energy.

719 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:41:50am
720 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:43:02am
721 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:43:14am

{vxbush}

Not well; massive migraine today. Can we please turn the lights off and have everyone whisper?

Another one, hon? I'll do my best to shut off the world for you.

Try and rest.

{loppyd} Hiya, toots. How's the BF?

Shaping up to be a beautiful day here on Boston's North Shore...hoping the weather holds up for my trip to the Vineyard later this week.

That would be Martha's?

:|

722 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:43:18am

I still cant stream Charels on Prager
wah

723 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:43:31am

Good Morning All (EXCEPT YOU, YOU SONOFABITCH,AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!)

Tried to catch up on the morning's posts, but they're really too much to respond to individually...I'm a quadraplegic, and if it wasn't for Viagra, I couldn't type at all.

Amadinewhat'sitsface has indeed followed the requisite protocols for waging war against the infidel; the Da'wa. Make no mistake about this. Make no mistake either, that the administration is certainly considering this aspect of the missive from the Iranian Drullahs, if not already completely certain of what it is: a declaration of war.

Diplomacy, vis a vis Sect. of State Rice, is , by definition, all talk, the Bush administration's actions (fast tracking war materials to Israel) and inactions (refusal to call for a ceasefire, or timetable for the completion of Israel's military objectives) are what count.

Babba Zee, you saved me the effort of posting the link to the "day of rage" article in the Jerusalem Post...Thanks.

Here is the link to today's FrontPage Magazine...always part of my "morning briefing", and particularly rich this morning.

Gotta get out and do some work today, as I f*cked off all day yesterday. Be good all...Later.

724 Black George Bush  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:44:05am

morning everybody!

725 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:45:09am

721 Miss Trixie

How's the BF?

He's great! I'm a very lucky girl.

That would be Martha's?

Yep - Teddy the Swimmer's crime scene.

726 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:45:13am

I seem to be unable to type CHARLES too
LOL


M. Bensson-Levi

You are most welcome
anytime
and good morning
727 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:45:48am

# 719 AI

Sigh. If I could afford to go there, it would all have to go, right down to the flooring. And the sub-flooring, too. In fact, what I need to do is have the house destryoed by a tornado and start over. Or move. Stupid spec-built houses.

728 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:46:28am

#707 Trumanite - yes you're correct about you shouldn't call him a fool. But to answer Dennis Miller's question (changing Byrd to Buckley) how about just giving him his due props and leaving him alone?

729 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:48:40am
war on Islamofacsism

...I am sorry...but this must be said...Islamofacsism is just STUPID!...ISLAM IS THE KORAN...THE KORAN CALLS FOR WAR ON INFIDELS...THERE IS NO SUCK THING AS ISLAMOFACSIISM...ITS A P.C. TERM FOR P.C. COWARDS.

730 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:49:21am

off to bank, post office, etc...

BBIAB

731 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:49:53am

AI- I think you are right about the letters and their significance.

It seems India's expats like Israel: they are urging members of their group to attend a pro-Israel rally in Toronto.

The 17 Jihadis who wanted to behead PM Harper are in their natural environment, prison.

Meanwhile, today 1/300 of the French Jewish population moved to Israel, in the middle of a war, in a single day. Israel at war offers a better futre for them than France at peace.
Give me that old time Zionism!

732 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:50:51am

loppyd

Yep - Teddy the Swimmer's crime scene.

The Bloated Bloviator's grassy knoll, as it were?

But we all know how much you admire and respect his Fishiness.

Not.

;D

733 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:50:56am
734 elBarto  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:52:45am

711 Realwest Her is a real media clip of that encounter [Link: www.pitt.edu...]

735 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:52:49am

{realwest} Good morning, sweetheart.

How are you making out in NYCs heat wave and power outage? I've been worried about you.

/fretfretfret

736 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:53:17am

#718 zulubaby:

GJ, we have to find you a new job. It's not worth it to be in something that drains your energy.

LOL yea. I agree totally.

If only I could maintain the current salary (or preferably: an increased one!) and not actually have to do any work, I'd be well pleased.

As a minimum, the client contact should be eliminate - which brings me to

{loppyd}

Clients suck and are stupid. Period.

Well, most of 'em, anyways, gawd.

737 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:54:06am

El Barto
THANKS for the clip!
I love it!

738 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:54:14am
739 3 wood  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:54:23am

#690 Mike C.

I am impress. Well, not with the baseball crapola, of course. But other than that...

Thanks. Economics and sports I know about. If you want to know about marginal propensity to consume, how to throw a circle change-up, or hit a draw off a down hill lie with a 4 iron, I'm your guy. This politics stuff is beyond my limited intellect. But I try to hang around and contribute anyway.

#655 Killian Bundy - Save your self some frustration, you might as well be debating a statue.

#694 loppyd

Well, hello my friend back at 'ya :)

Just got back last week from a trip to Alabama to play a portion of the RT Jones Trail. You and your BF might want to think about it some time for a vacation yourselves.
Golf game is doing prtty well. I've just about completed all the swing changes I had to make to accomodate some minor arthirtis in the shoulders and am getting confident with the new swing. Shot 77 last evening in a quick 18 after work. I've morphed my swing from an upright swing plane (similar to Fred Couples) into a flat swing plane (similar to Lee Trevino). At least I can play now without being in pain and having to ice the shoulders after each round like I used to. Actually my putting is the biggest improvement, I did the round last night with 29 putts, had 4 holes in a row with 1-putts.

I also was able to transfer over all the temporary CEO stuff I was doing for the last year. They finally got around to hiring a permanent replacement. So now I'm down to working just 1.5 jobs. I feel lazy.

How's by you?

740 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:56:10am
741 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:56:37am

Bedtime here, folks. Carry on, in all senses of the phrase.

Mike C. out.

742 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:56:52am

More great moments in TV history:

743 m  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:56:54am

#685 zulubaby

So no-one has the animated jpeg of Arafat bellydancing?

No, but I found one of osama doing the hula!

Mornin' Lizards :)

744 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 4:58:03am

war on Islamofacsism...Is asking people to ignore the koran itself...Was there a good part of Nazi Germany?...A good part of Slavery in the South?...A good part of North Korea?...No...No and No...And there is nothing good about Islam...The Koran is a book that calls for the Killing of Jews..and Muslims all over the World are doing what the Koran demands.

745 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:00:03am

Ooops.

Should be "His Fishiness"

Makes a BIG difference.

:P

746 saltmarsh  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:00:21am

Buckley was upset. He was coming upon his deadline and the damned machine had quit.

Kaypro tech support responded by sending a tech out. When the tech arrived, he found a Kaypro Ten sitting at the Dos prompt. He edited the autoexec file so Wordstar would load automatically when the computer was turned on and the conservative movement continued apace.

747 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:00:32am

actually... "Islamofacsism" is not a "PC term for PC Cowards"

it is the description of the facist state set up by the intitution of Sharia law which restricts all personal freedom.

It also describes the mindset of those who seek to destroy us for being free rather than bathing ourselves in that same islamofacist thought.

to say otherwise is, at best, foolish.

*goes back to lurking*

748 haakondahl  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:02:09am

Here is an excerpt from a description of the events by D. Hugh via POWERLINEBLOG.

His blowup with Gore Vidal during one-the-air "blogging" of the 1968 Democratic National Convention occurred when Vidal, in a fit of girly-man pique, referred to Buckley as a "crypto-Nazi." Buckley retaliated by calling Vidal a "faggot." (Buckley was wrong, for once; Vidal was not a homosexual; he was an omnisexual, being equally happy sleeping with men, women, or likely anything else not swift enough or lucky enough to escape his embraces.) Years later, Vidal confessed that he hadn't meant to say crypto-Nazi... he intended to call Buckley a crypto-Fascist, but the other just slipped out. Buckley says he would never have reacted so violently to being called a crypto-Fascist, but crypto-Nazi was "beyond the pale."

I have seen online, and cannot yet recover the link for, a movie of the fireworks. It seems to me, however, that the tape did not cover the actual physical tussle, as I thought that was incorrect, and nearly posted to that effect, until I kept seeing references to the real action in my search for the film. I'll post the link if I find it--meanwhile I need to look through ship names for a project left over from yesterday...

But the big point is this: William F. Buckley defined Conservatism, at least as a political force. He literally caused it to be. If anybody gets to say who is and who is not a Conservative, if is WFB.

Furthermore, I fully support the President, and would vote for him again in 2008 if that were possible in our system. But not from enthusiasm or common belief as was the case in 2004. Just for fear of a DNC Nakhba. I am furious with Bush, wonder what the Fuck has happened to that crew in their Washington adventure, and fully support him and will vote to keep as much of the Republican government intact as I can.

Which part of Conservatism is reflected in Bush's actions--the ever-more-rapidly expanding Federal Leviathan, or the accompanying expenditure? Hmmm... got me there.

I believe that WFB has the right to say what he did, that he was right to say what he did, and in fact is the right because he said what he did so many years ago.

Accuse me of hero-worship--I won't argue--he was Reagan's hero, and that's good enough for me.

749 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:02:16am

How the UN legitimizes terrorists

By Alan M. Dershowitz

750 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:02:51am

^^What Lance said^^

751 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:03:06am

3 wood,

77, huh? That's good shooting. I think the last time out, I had 77 putts.

And the comments about oil? Spot on from the economist! Reading your post starting giving me the willies thinking about Micro and Macro Economics from the MBA.

If the American consumer could control his driving for about 6 weeks and let gasoline inventories build, and assuming the mid-east doesn't blow up any further, we could bring the price of oil down to about $60.00 a barrel.

752 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:04:03am

#734 El Barto - Thanks, but I can't get it to play, just that stupid realplayer with the circular blue lines around it!

753 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:04:59am
LanceKates 7/25/2006 07:00AM PDT
actually... "Islamofacsism" is not a "PC term for PC Cowards"

it is the description of the facist state set up by the intitution of Sharia law which restricts all personal freedom

SORRY THE WORD FOR THAT IS JUST "ISLAM"...THEY LEARN SHARIA FROM THE KORAN...

754 elBarto  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:06:57am

752 Right click on the link and save it to disk then play it.

755 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:06:59am

Morning all! Even you #373 ibmkeyboard *bwhahaha*

I'm not the anti-christ, only in control of the Karl Rove memorial weather generator for the day. It was nice in the NYC metro area, and that had to be balanced by bad weather somewhere else (conservation of energy - laws of physics can't be fooled with). That someplace else was where you are ibmkeyboard.

Sorry :)

Meanwhile, posted my morning roundup. Israel is pounding Hizbullah bigtime, although you'd never know it if you were listening to CNN, NBC or other media outlets because those reporters on the scene in Beirut were towing the Hizbullah line. To get their access, they had to compromise their journalistic integrity - as if that ever really mattered to them... ugh...

756 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:07:12am
757 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:08:53am

753 store

that is irrelevant. but if you want to talk about the root cause, you are correct.

however, that does not make islamofacism a 'pc term for pc cowards'

islamofacism is an exact term to describe the political face of islam.

You don't seem to mind using the word Nazi, which is just shorthand for facism. (nationalist socialist party). . . . but no one could say it was anything other than totally evil.

if Nazi isn't a "PC term for pc cowards" than neither is islamofacism.

in your effort to be as deep as the ocean, don't get caught up on a sandbar.

758 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:09:09am

#748 haakondahl - THANK YOU! But please also see my #752,El Barto has apparently found a clip, but I can't get it to play on my Realplayer! Crap!

759 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:11:03am

#753 storagemanager:

Dude, wtf?

Don't you have better things to do, seriously?

Islamofascism is a great term, it describes really well who the nutjobs are and what they're after.

760 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:11:29am

LanceKates 7/25/2006 07:08AM PDT...point taken.

761 elBarto  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:12:08am

758 - The clip does not show the smack down, but WFB is coming out of his seat.

762 j-damn  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:12:11am

Customer at Market in Springfield Cuts Off His Hand

By Karin Brulliard
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 25, 2006; Page B01

Igbal Asghar reached across the counter at Super Halal Meat market and passed two butchered chickens to the man with the familiar face. Then he ducked into the walk-in freezer to fetch the customer's second order, goat meat.

When the butcher stepped out seconds later, the customer's severed left hand lay on the floor by the meat saw, Asghar said. The customer ran down the Springfield store's center aisle and into the front parking lot, leaving a trail of blood and yelling repeatedly that he was "not a terrorist." Outside, another witness said, the man announced that he had used the meat saw to cut off his hand "for Allah."

763 Trumanite  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:12:14am

#695 American Infidel 7/25/2006 06:25AM PDT
#663 Trumanite


The caller stipulated that he was "philosophically senile" (I hope I am remembering that correctly)...

I didn't take it as Buckley's marbles were starting to go bad, I understood it to mean that Buckley Jr. just doesn't grasp the entire idea of the jihad & its global dimensions, etc...

Rush was adamant, that Buckley Jr. was still sharp and not senile, etc...

But he did use the fact that Buckley Jr. didn't grasp the whole idea of jihad & its dimensions to explain why so many other people (not as wise/smart) as Buckley Jr. are having problems grasping the idea of jihad & its dimensions...

Yes, you are correct, the caller used the phrase "philosophically senile". And Limbaugh did say that WFB is still mentally fit.

But, Limbaugh still didn't object too much to the inclusion of the "S" word.

The way I heard it come across, Limbaugh wanted to praise WFBs past accomplishments and at the same time clearly let it be known that WFB wasn't capable of processing current information and applying it to the current situation.

That's what I get from Buckley's quotes. Is that a non-clinical definition of senility?

I don't know. But, Buckley and his status as a conservative icon are being used by the antiwar journos to undermine the war.

That's why we can't just "give him his props" and let it go.

764 jonturner  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:12:16am

Man Cuts Off Hand At Butcher Shop -- Wanted goat meat, not chicken

When police arrived, they said, the man was holding his severed hand screaming, "I'm not a terrorist. I did this for my family."

Curiously, no mention of his name, nor his religious affiliation. No word if he ever got his goat meat, but police said they will not file charges against the non-terrorist handchopper.

Springfield, VA. Home to several pro-Islam broadcasts (Amin Radio am700, The Washington Islam Meetup Group (54 members), the Islamic Foundation of America, etc.) and is also home to "Al Hurra", an Arabic-language American satellite TV channel funded by Congress. Curious place.

765 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:13:06am
766 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:13:14am

I never heard anyone who adheres to PC use the term "islamofascism".

In fact, I'd say it's rather fuckin' un-PC, innit.

767 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:14:24am

#754 elBarto -ARRRGGGH! I tried right clicking on the link and there was no save to disk, which is a good thing cause I'm out of blank CD's.
How come it won't play on Realplayer - isn't there some way I can play it?

768 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:14:38am

OK. I'm confused now. Who here is going to the LGF meetup BBQ?

769 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:14:54am

766 gj

i think the current pc term is 'freedom fighters'

or, in the case of france, "Asian and African immigrants"

770 Carridine  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:14:59am

#748- Haakondahl: Buckley was right about the 'faggot' part, too. Just because a faggot sexes women too, doesn't mean he's not sexing men. Or camels, or rubber appliances or kilo-slabs of liver!

771 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:15:35am

miss trixie

i am not.

772 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:15:39am

From the looks of the pictures on the blog this morning, looks like I may have to switch descriptive terms from Islamofascists to Heil Al-Hitler.

773 Quilly Mammoth  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:15:47am

The next installment of the Protocols of Kos

This kossac says that the Israeli soldiers were not kidnapped, but rather caught in an illegal cross border operation.

Whether factual or not, these alternative accounts should at the very least raise serious questions as to Israel's motives and rationale for bombarding Lebanon.

That bit of stunning illogic is not surprising based upon how the diary begins

It as become general knowledge that it was Hezbollah guerillas that first kidnapped two IDF soldiers inside Israel on July 12, prompting an immediate and violent response from the Israeli government, which insists it is acting in the interest of national defense. Israeli forces have gone on to kill over 370 innocent Lebanese civilians (compared to 34 killed on Israel's side) while displacing hundreds of thousands more. But numerous reports from international and independent media, as well as the Associated Press, raise questions about Israel's official version of the events that sparked the conflict two weeks ago.

Yes, let's definately depend on al AP al AFP and al Rueters for clear reporting on da joos Israel!

774 elBarto  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:17:12am

Realwest the clip is about 1 min long.Your option may be save target ass not save to disk.

775 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:17:41am
16:57 Two Palestinians hurt as IAF aircraft fires rocket at house in southern Gaza (AP)

16:54 IDF general: Army has killed 20-30 Hezbollah fighters in past day (Reuters)

16:53 Peretz: Israel to hold south Lebanon security strip until int`l force arrives (Reuters)

16:49 IAF renews aerial strikes of Beirut (Channel 2)

Busy ...

776 Lousy-ana-Texan  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:18:59am

Good morning all.
Speaking of Rush, he made an excellent point yesterday with this statement:

Oh, we hear from the reporters, the tanks are massed just across the border and we see videotape of the tanks. Have you seen any of those tanks targeted by Hezbollah? Now, this is not just an empty, baseless question. There's a reason for it. Because I would think that if you're Hezbollah, and the enemy has all kinds of tanks and armored personnel carriers, artillery and so forth, it's an appropriate military target to hit, is it not? Fire your Katyushas at it, fire your rockets at that amassed base of weaponry and take it out. The purpose of armies is to kill people and break things, right? This is elementary military strategery, folks, but Hezbollah doesn't seem interested at all in taking out those tanks, and there are lots of them that have been amassed on the border.


This illustrates exactly why hezbullah needs to be destroyed.

777 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:20:16am

#773 quilly mammoth:

And never mind the fact that Nasrallah himself says that Hiz'b'Allah spent months prepping to conduct the very raid that killed eight Israelis and resulted in two being taken into Lebanon. Such facts are quite inconvenient to the fact-challenged, sockpuppet enhanced, and anti-Semitic infested fever swamps of the DU/DK [ed: i think you hit all the key DU/DK demographics - sweet!]

778 red meat conservative  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:20:59am

Lousy-ana-Texan

Rush was awesome yesterday. He has such moral clarity on this issue. I wish that he were the prime minister.

779 Greg  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:21:38am

Buckley like Buchanan has had their cheese has slip off the cracker when it come to Islamofascism.

780 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:21:56am

I will not argue the point...but it was used by the same people who say Islam was hijacked...my last post on this.

781 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:22:23am
782 galloping granny  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:22:39am

#754 elBarto -ARRRGGGH! I tried right clicking on the link and there was no save to disk, which is a good thing cause I'm out of blank CD's.

elBarto - "save to disc" does not mean that you need a blank CD. You can "save to disc" to anywhere on your computer. I like to "save to disc" to my desktop and sort out the mess later.

In fact, I "save to disc" so much that I no longer use blank CDs - they don't store enough. We've switched over to DVD for everything except the odd music CD for the grandkid to haul around with her.

783 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:23:55am

#775 zulubaby:

Israel will be holding onto South Lebanon for quite a while if they're going to wait for an international peacekeeping force.

No one wants the job (US and many Europeans included), and the UN isn't going to be part of the deal.

Besides, even if they can muster up the troops, it will take weeks to get a sufficient force in place.

784 m  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:23:57am

Religious left gears up to face right counterpart
All four of them?

Congress passed a bill to allow more research, but Bush vetoed it, saying the measure would violate the sanctity of human life by encouraging destruction of embryos left from fertility treatments.

The religious left apparently has no problem with lying. Bush vetoed using federal funds for the research... he did not veto allowing research. Nice and religious like with their lies aren't they?

"The call of the gospel is to help the poor," Meyers said. "The strong ought to help the weak, instead of the strong helping the strong get stronger, which the Bush administration is all about."

Al Sharpton? Is that you?

785 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:24:17am

#757 LanceKates

Unfortunately islamofacism is an inaccurate description of the political face of islam. It uses a replacement mechanism for the political face of islam with what people are familiar with, i.e. fascism (but not as familiar with as many think they are). It gives people the sense they know.

786 Geepers  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:25:20am

Quilly Mammoth (#773),

Whether factual or not, ...

The decision making mainstay of the LLL.

788 Lousy-ana-Texan  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:25:42am

red meat conservative

I wish anyone, and I mean, anyone in the MSM would report that perspective. But alas I fear there is no hope for that.

789 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:26:09am

#781 American Infidel ...Thank you AI...well said...we must not let Islam off the hook.

790 Carridine  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:26:30am

#773, #777- And remember, Israel retreated from Lebanon in 2000CE ONLY BECAUSE OF GUARANTEES that the UN would NOT ALLOW REMILITARIZATION of the border area!

NOW, NOW we learn about bomb-reinforced bunkers, rocket-launchers and other RE-MILITARIZATION in spite of the Useless Nitwits in Blue Skullcaps!

791 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:26:40am
Russian President Vladimir Putin says Israel has the right to security (AP)

Aawww, thanks.

792 traveler  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:26:58am

#781 American Infidel

I agree that the other "descriptives" are unnecessary and even misleading.

Our enemy is Islam. Period.

793 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:27:22am

Maybe the political face of islamwould be better described as Sharia'ism. Then folks would have to bother with learning what it is.

794 3 wood  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:27:32am

#751 goodbye natalie

If the American consumer could control his driving for about 6 weeks and let gasoline inventories build, and assuming the mid-east doesn't blow up any further, we could bring the price of oil down to about $60.00 a barrel.

It's what I call chasing yourself up the money-tree. I go by a Dairy Queen on my way home and most nights I see at least 8 cars sitting in the drive up burning gas and waiting for their order. Most of those cars are SUV's, vans and pick-ups, not exactly your high mileage type of vehicle. Can't these people, park, walk in and get their order? Yes, they just don't want to. They would rather burn the gas in the drive through line. Out of 600 employees at my work place, 2 of us ride bicycles regularly to work, and we both are viewed as half-crazy for doing so. Yet I have to listen to my co-workers constantly complain about the price of gas. Most of us can alter our consumption behavior (and some have) to some extent fairly easily. It's just a matter of how high does the price have to get (thus raising the opportunity cost of that behavior) before we do so enough to affect the overall situation. In other words, how high do we want to chase ourselves up the money tree before we reduce our consumption on a macro-level enough to relieve the situation?

795 got milk?  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:29:17am

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796 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:29:48am
797 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:30:55am

"Why hide behind "islamofascism"?!?

Are we that sissified that we cannot even properly name & identify the enemy?!?"

nope. once again, you're not only wrong, but wholly wrong.

islamofacism is an exact term.

it doesn't require one to think islam has been hijacked.

it does, however, require one to know the definition of the term, which most sheep do not.

islam is a religion. one that feeds on death and repression of freedom. when put into practice, it is islamofacism. . . which is the political/social practicum of Islam.

When I want to talk about a religion in which people hold a pedophile raider up high, I talk about islam.

when I want to talk about a governmental system or terrorist group striving to enforce sharia in a counry, or on a group of people, I talk about islamofacism.

the islamic terrorists we fight are islamofacists. it is the sole correct and exact term.

again, to say otherwise is, at best, foolish.


"The difference between the right word and the almost-right word is the difference between the lightning and the lightning-bug,"
- Mark Twain

798 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:32:55am

#781 American Infidel

that is the best and clearest post I have seen you make since I have been back here - there is
clarity, brevity and accuracy in that statement
and I
agree 100%

however
that being said

I do believe that certain writers/speakers etc
that DO understand this still use the term as to make some things clear to the illiterati
via implication

not everyone knows what we know
matter of fact we are a tiny minority

ALLAH IS SATAN

799 Carridine  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:33:03am

#781-AI: Respectfully, Sir, your observations CAN be turned around, linguistically.

I, for example, use "Islamo-fascism" to ensure that the listener deal with the FASCIST portions or aspects of Islam. Does NOT in the least mean that one is seperated from the other, and in truth means that the listener (if courageous enough to DEAL WITH the 'fascism' aspects at all) CAN NOT just hear "Islam" and sort through various 'religious' (decent, civilizing, positive) meanings...

Sissified? No, Sir, but a professional linguist more than 30 years. I respect the power of the word.

800 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:33:37am

{Lance} Good morning. I knew YOU weren't able to go but I couldn't remember who ARE going.

/great memory but really short

BTW - how's Mo?

801 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:33:56am

#735 Miss Trixie - Morning back atcha! Don't fret about me, please. With so much important stuff going on in the world, a little blackout or two doesn't amount to a hill of beans!
Actually, knock on wood, haven't had any black outs here where I live, but jeebus it got to 112 in the SF Bay area yesterday!
Today is, please, Lord, the last step of my root canal from hell, then if all goes well, I can go back to fret,fret,frettng about my upcoming move.
It's becoming a nightmare!
You take care of yourself; I'll get through ok - think of all those poor Israeli's - makes me embarrassed to even mention my stupid root canal.

GO ISRAEL! GO IDF!

802 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:33:57am

Does islamofascism make the trains run on time?

803 galloping granny  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:34:01am

#787 - Gil, the linkie goes to a page about aliyah, not the pact between Syria & Iran. That news, BTW, has been out there for at least 3 or 4 days. Not sure why no one seems to be trumpeting it from the rooftops.

The major global war has been on hair-trigger for sometime now. Probably already started.

And NOW dear Kofi wants the UN to extend UNIFIL's mandate in Lebanon for another month. Fat lot of good that would do for anyone - except maybe line Kofi's pocket, or give UNIFIL the opportunity to help cover Hizballah.

804 traveler  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:34:26am

#799 Carridine

(AI's not a "sir")

805 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:34:30am
806 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:34:44am

797 LanceKates ...Muhammad called it Islam and picked up a sword...I'll stick to War on Islam...they call it the war on the West.

807 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:36:13am

Dang it! I can't get any work blogging done this morning.

808 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:36:38am

I agree with AI on the term Islamofascism. Mealy mouthed PC gobbly gook.

The term I believe most correctly describes our enemies ideology is Islamism.

809 m  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:36:57am

#804 traveler

You sure about that?

810 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:37:02am

#797 LanceKates :-)

Mark Twain actually makes my case. Not yours:-)

"The difference between the right word and the almost-right word is the difference between the lightning and the lightning-bug,"


- Mark Twain

811 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:37:22am
Rice also told Abbas "how very much admiration there is for you in the United States for your courage and your continuing leadership of the Palestinian people."

Good grief.

I wonder if Leon Klinghoffer's family admires him and considers him courageous.

Why does the world insist on covering Islamic savagery? I don't get it.

812 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:37:39am

736 Golden J.

The bulk of our clients are stupid...in most cases, they are their own worst enemy and blame everything and everyone but themselves for getting into trouble with johnny law.

Example:

Client is on probation with drug testing as a condition of said probation. Client does coke. Client goes to probation department for his drug test. Drug test comes pack positive for cocaine. Client is subsequently arrested, probation is considered to be violated and he is sent to jail to serve the remainder of his sentence. His response? "my probation officer is out to get me."

This is what I deal with.

813 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:37:58am

#794 3 wood

Unless I know exactly what I want (usually I don't), I won't use the drive-thru. I'd rather go inside and check out the menu.

I do like places like Jack In The Box, where they have two menu signs in the drive-thru, so you can take a look before you get to the speaker. And a display that shows your order, so you can verify that they're getting it right.

814 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:38:24am

793 Roger

the institution of sharia is akin to the quasi-cultish sentiments instilled by Hitler in his fascist agenda.


fas·cism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fshzm)
n.
often Fascism
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
Oppressive, dictatorial control.

if that doesn't describe the current face of Islam, i'm not sure what does.

815 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:39:18am

Godd morning all. Hey Traveler!

816 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:39:47am

Infidella can't I turn my back for ONE MINUTE without you getting the whole blog howling for your blood? It's time we stopped sisifiedly pussyfooting around: AIism is the enemy!

817 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:39:53am

#802 Roger

Did original fascism make the trains run on time?

818 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:41:30am

#814 LanceKates, you need to go deeper than just a dictionary. But working with that I don't see any parallel at all; there is no dictator(other than allah) in islam for starters.

819 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:41:33am

#811 zulubaby

Rice also told Abbas "how very much admiration there is for you in the United States for your courage and your continuing leadership of the Palestinian people."

That makes me want to vomit.

820 Carridine  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:41:40am

#804-Traveler: a Ma'am?

Because by choice, I respect every poster here, and every person I meet in this life...

...unless and until they make clear, by their actions, their untrustworthiness, dishonesty, and lack of self-respect.

In which case, THEN I'll consider rearranging my perceptions of them.

821 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:42:11am

how about this... you all call it what you want, and we'll call it what we want, and we'll just fight the enemy together.


sound like a deal?

822 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:42:15am

From 1996, when CNN still used the word "terrorist".

April 24, 1996

U.S. rejects terrorist's apology for Klinghoffer murder

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States will not accept the apology of Palestinian guerrilla leader Mohammad Abbas for the murder of Leon Klinghoffer during the Achille Lauro hijacking.

"We believe it's irrelevant. We still hold him responsible," said a senior State Department spokesman.

Yeah? When?

Palestinian guerrilla leader Mohammad Abbas said in Gaza Monday that the seizing of the cruise ship in 1985 was a mistake, and apologized for the killing of disabled U.S. passenger Klinghoffer.

Klinghoffer, a resident of New York, was shot in his wheelchair during the hijack and thrown overboard by Abbas' men.

So courageous.

What's not to admire?

823 techno_barbarian  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:42:49am

#759 Golden Jerusalem

I've been hearing the term 'islamosupremist' lately, and that seems very accurate to me. Islamofascist, just like (fill in the blank)-fascist seems to be losing its meaning.

The supremacy thing tags islam exactly, no?

824 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:43:07am

Yep, every Muslim is a jihadi that wants to kill infidels, 100%, no questions asked.

Nevermind that rational estimates are that only 10% of all Muslims are radicalized jihadis, granted that is at least 100 million out of a billion, but far less than 100%.

Post a link to the contrary.

/we're not going to exterminate 1.3 billion people, and that's a fact, get over your bad old selves

825 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:43:08am

Loppy!
Real criminals just don't match up to TV criminals. I used to tell folks: Nobody murders with arsenic to get the inheritance. No, they bash his head in with a crowbar to get the last beer , then they stand there spattered in blood and say: "I didn't do it".

826 amyc  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:43:30am

784 m. I've always felt a little weird about the whole IVF thing. The whole creating tens or hundred embryos knowing that most would be "left-overs" just tossed in the medical waste. I personally don't see any difference in throwing the embryos away or doing stem cell experiments on them..

827 hornet  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:43:54am

Name the enemy ...it is ISLAM.

828 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:44:14am

#801 realwest

I've been praying for you--I hope just knowing that we Lizards care about you helps!

But Israel's at the top of my prayer list...

829 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:44:24am

I hope Rice never becomes POTUS.

830 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:45:22am

#817 Earth2moonbat

You're familiar with the phrase?

831 haakondahl  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:45:32am

#227 Amalie

Sorry for the delay:

Hey... Did you know the UN still has a "peacekeeping" force in Lebanon and that it started in 1978?

Did you know that Syria only disengaged from Lebanon just over a year ago?

Do not blame us for what it happening over there. Hizbollah are agents of Iran and Syria. They are the ones using the Lebanese as their pawns in order to get Israel.

We have stood firm as Israel's ally.


I'm not sure where you and I disagree, other than this--we have stood by Israel, but also it has been the US more than anyone else who restrained Israel in the 1967 war, which is the only one I know in detail. We have, of course, been the best friend Israel has ever had, but our own reticence has caused us to fall victim to the siren songs of pacifism and appeasement, which worked so well for Neville Chamberlain.
The disgusting role of "honest broker" which we pursued under the Clinton administration made us no better than arbiters of terror. Should we arbitrate the legitemacy of rocket attacks on innocent civilians? Or should we admit that truly, we were part of the problem?

We have allowed those who hide behind innocents to control the debate for decades.

I don't want to hear any arguments about mercy or lack of options. Even Fabrizio Quattrocchi, a man faced with options of death or futile death, found a way to fight and die not a victim but a hero.

Witness Fabrizio Quattrocchi1, 36, a baker from Italy who went to Iraq to work as a security guard for a contracting firm. He and three other Italians were taken hostage by al-Katibat al-Khadra, the Green Battalion, who demanded that Italy release some of the Muslim extremists they are holding, and that Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi apologize for statements he made that allegedly insulted Islam. They showed the hostages on video, and threatened to kill them if their demands were not met. To demonstrate they were serious, they took Quattrocchi to a field, and had him dig a large hole. They then put a hood over his head and forced him to kneel by the grave, preparing to murder him. But Fabrizio did not cooperate. He stood and tried to pull off the hood, shouting, "Now I'll show you how an Italian dies!" The terrorists shot him in the back of the neck. Al Jazeera, which obtained the videotape of the killing, chose not to air it, saying it was "too gruesome." Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said, Fabrizio "died a hero."
[...]
The enemy we face today would have to rise far to earn even our contempt. Fabrizio's captors wanted not just to kill him, but to humiliate him, the true mark of the savage. However, they needed his cooperation, and Fabrizio knew it. He was beyond help, but not helpless. He was alive. He could still choose, if only to choose the manner in which he would die. Consider the bravery, the nobility, the strength of that act. In his final moments, facing eternity, willfully discarding the shred of hope that maybe it would not happen, maybe he would get out of it alive, shouting defiance in the masked faces of his captors and denying the barbarous cowards intent on murdering him the satisfaction of his complicity in their crime.

Fabrizio Quattrocchi showed us how an Italian dies, and how a hero lives.

He knew the falseness of the pacifist hope that behaving as devils insist will pay off in mercy. Behaving the way which devils insist can yield only devilry.

Like I said--not sure where we disagree, so I'm just clearing my end up. See yaz!

1. This quote is pulled from James S. Robbins on Fabrizio Quattrocchi on National Review Online

832 m  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:45:44am

PK~ that's not an uproar... this is an uproar...
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/kidding

#824 Killian Bundy
You wanna borrow Loppy's brick wall? You're gonna need it!

833 vxbush  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:46:54am

got milk?

A cocoa facial! THAT is what I need today. Of course, all the caffeine would exacerbate the migraine, but what a way to go...

834 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:47:24am

739 3 wood

Happy to hear you're having a nice summer and that you're finding a groove with the new swing.
Did you see Tiger's win this past weekend? I started crying when he broke down at the end.

I've never been to Alabama, but have always wanted to check it out. I'll add to the ever-growing list of places for me and the BF to visit. Right now we're working on either a road trip to NC & SC in the early Fall (had to postpone the trip we had planned for April) and hopefully someplace tropical in January.

Boating, fishing and beach have been the theme of our summer so far...

835 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:47:30am
836 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:47:55am

Ward Cleaver, you and me both.

837 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:48:13am

I don't know if this has been posted yet:
IAF makes fireworks display in Gaza.

The IAF on Monday night fired at two Islamic Jihad warehouses in Gaza City containing large amounts of ammunition. This was the second such warehouse that was targeted on Monday.

838 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:48:20am

818 Roger

sure there is.

each terrorist squad has their sole ruler, and many look up to Bin Laden.

Just because they don't have a leader as clear as Hitler doesn't mean they aren't fascists.

and, by the way, if the definition isn't the definition, then what is the definition, (and have you written Mirriam-Webster and the other dictionaries to tell them that they're wrong?)

839 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:48:39am

#817 Earth2moonbat

My point could be clarified. Does islamism even make trains?

840 Carridine  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:49:38am

Dirk, AI: Any word is appropriate from my PoV, IF it carries the power to create in the hearer's mind: "head-hacking, domineering, dominating, supremacist, misogynist, irrational, Koran-pounding, hateful..." person-theoretically-human.

Lance: Its a deal. Count me IN. Let's take the fight TO THEM!

841 Geepers  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:50:05am

Let's face it folks, anyone who uses "islamofacist" is a sissified PC wuss.

What we should be using is: "the enemy."

842 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:50:35am
843 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:50:44am
if that doesn't describe the current face of Islam, i'm not sure what does.

Lance Islam has not changed since Mohammad was walking the Earth...Just the leaders and weapons have changed.

844 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:50:50am
how about this... you all call it what you want, and we'll call it what we want, and we'll just fight the enemy together.


sound like a deal?

It's more than a matter of semantics. Words and ideas mean things. Our enemies do not fight for a totalitarian ideology that has been concocted around the religion of Islam, they fight for Islam in its purest, most virulent form.

Islam is in and of itself a totalitarian political ideology.

Can we talk about boobs or baseball now?

845 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:51:16am

Islam is not the enemy. The Enemy is the Enemy. Until you can tell the difference you should not be allowed in the fight.

846 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:52:11am

#838 LanceKates

Lance, why go that direction? I'm talking about researching a subject. The dictionary is not enough unless one is in a hurry in high school.

847 Lousy-ana-Texan  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:52:21am

Since islam is a religion, sharia is islam's law, and the practitioners are muslum, would that not make the problem muslums and not just islam? If that is the case would you describe the caliphate goal in terms of muslumism?

/Not enough coffee this morning.

848 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:52:23am
#824 Killian Bundy 7/25/2006 07:43AM PDT
Yep, every Muslim is a jihadi that wants to kill infidels, 100%, no questions asked


OK
Here's a natfahnuttin'but
moment for ya,
indulge me please
and see it this way for a second:

Dateline, 1939:
Yep, every German is a Nazi that wants to kill Jews, 100%, no questions asked.

One upon a time,
supporters of American isolationism, anti-semitism and German self determination spoke the same way...

Should we have not fought WWII and inflicted the damage we did on "moderate" Germans because of this reasoning?

It is not our fault if the so called moderates among the Nazis died or if the so called moderates among the Muslims die.

It is the fault of
1) their political and religious leaders
2) themselves - for not opposing the tyranny.


Resistance to Tyranny is obedience to GOD

849 Carridine  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:52:29am

#839 Roger, Muslims can't even make TIME!

850 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:52:47am
#824 Killian Bundy 7/25/2006 07:43AM PDT
Yep, every Muslim is a jihadi that wants to kill infidels, 100%, no questions asked


OK
Here's a natfahnuttin'but
moment for ya,
indulge me please
and see it this way for a second:

Dateline, 1939:
Yep, every German is a Nazi that wants to kill Jews, 100%, no questions asked.

One upon a time,
supporters of American isolationism, anti-semitism and German self determination spoke the same way...

Should we have not fought WWII and inflicted the damage we did on "moderate" Germans because of this reasoning?

It is not our fault if the so called moderates among the Nazis died or if the so called moderates among the Muslims die.

It is the fault of
1) their political and religious leaders
2) themselves - for not opposing the tyranny.


Resistance to Tyranny is obedience to GOD

851 haakondahl  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:53:35am

Zulubaby

Thank for the props, by the way. I have many flaws (ask anyone), but ingratitude is not one of them.

(Who said that? :)

852 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:54:01am

WOW
I have no clue how that posted twice

my apologies

853 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:54:56am
Can we talk about boobs or baseball now?

Boring. Let's talk about Gucci purses instead.

854 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:55:02am

tfk
I had suggested the other day that Israel would cut them off, and let them die of thirst.

The morons will pack the bunkers to the ceiling with ammo, and forget the bottled water.


And now that Israel is cutting off the banks, they will hopefully run out of money for the soda machines too.

855 nonic  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:55:33am

#764 jonturner

Investigators said the man, who has not been identified, was taken to Inova Fairfax Hospital for treatment.

And who do you think is going to be paying for his "treatment"? Which could involve extremely complicated and expensive surgery, and years of rehabilitation therapy, etc., etc. Huh?

856 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:55:51am

PK!

Real criminals just don't match up to TV criminals. I used to tell folks: Nobody murders with arsenic to get the inheritance. No, they bash his head in with a crowbar to get the last beer , then they stand there spattered in blood and say: "I didn't do it".

So true. We had a client light his friend's legs on fire for spilling a beer on his carpet.

857 m  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:56:32am

#826 amyc
My point was they lied about what he vetoed. He did not veto the research.

858 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:57:47am
#848 BabbaZee

Dateline, 1939:
Yep, every German is a Nazi that wants to kill Jews, 100%, no questions asked.

That wasn't true.

/not even then

859 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 5:59:37am

Whew! Some one finally mentioned boobs.

860 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:00:02am

846 Roger

are you going to tell me that the use of violent force and oppression of all freedoms and the requirement of a governmental system sharia requires doesn't scream of fascism?

Are you going to tell me that the inherent racism (jews are evil), and nationalistic pride (only islam is pure) doesn't scream "I'm a Fascist!"

just because its leaders are focused on one sole religion instead of a combination of cultish practices, does not mean that the structure is not the same.

instead of uniformed soldiers massing in Berlin for demonstrations of the "Fatherland's" power, soldiers of islam's fascism disguise themselves as civilians and use roadside bombs and rockets.

the fascism in Islam far outdates the italian's concept of fascism that Mussolini came up with when my grandfather was born.

861 Carridine  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:01:45am

#850- Zee: EGGS-Ackley!

40% or so of the populace of Nazi Germany were "moderates", and FAT LOT OF GOOD it did THEM or US!

They were intimidated by Hitler's public executions, beatings, jeering, labor camps, news reports (propaganda) and public-peer-pressure!

But although they didn't SUPPORT Nazi-race-supremacy, they ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN, piecemeal or not, and then they SUFFERED the bombings and decades of internment in East Germany!

862 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:01:57am

#841 Geepers

Let's face it folks, anyone who uses "islamofacist" is a sissified PC wuss.

What we should be using is: "the enemy." weirod.

863 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:03:22am

and this call just came in:

client: I can't be in court tomorrow because I have to be in court in Boston.

me: what is the charge in the case we represent you on?

client: Driving without a license.

me: What are you charged with in the Boston case?

client: Driving without a license.

me: so you're telling me that after you were charged here for driving without a license you then decided to keeo driving and you were caught in Boston and now you face the same charge there?

client: no

me: no?

client: well, I guess so.

AAARRRGGGHHH

864 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:03:27am
Peacekeeper 7/25/2006 07:51AM PDT
Islam is not the enemy. The Enemy is the Enemy. Until you can tell the difference you should not be allowed in the fight.



Qur’an:9:88 “The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah’s Cause.”
Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”
Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”
Ishaq:325 “Muslims, fight in Allah’s Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious.”
Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

ISLAM IS THE ENEMY.

865 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:04:18am

#829 Ward Cleaver

No one mentioned it. Guess I'll have to.

Hillary before Rice?

866 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:04:38am

#828 Goddessoftheclassroom - Knowing that several lizards are wising me well and/or praying for me DOES help. A Lot.
But pray first for Israel and the IDF.
Then for Ben Z and his wife
then for a whole buncha other lizards who can benefit more from prayer than can I.

Thanks for having me on your prayer list - wherever in line I may be.
Most of my problems come from the frickin' cancer med's I'm taking (not including the damn root canal!) they've changed who I am; I'm no longer physically very strong and I'm trying to get me and my Mom moved to a great place in Charlotte and having trouble getting shit packed, finaces worked out and SCARED of what'll happen when we get there, cause we don't have a car and neither of us is frankly fit to drive a rental. And after the movers, we HAVE to somehow get to a supermarket and try to get two or three standing lamps (don't ask!) before the day is over and the fact is we'll both be exhausted (Mom cause she's 81, me cause of my Meds) long before they finish unloading the truck.
See, there's the fuckin' med's talking right there.
We have an extremely good friend from LGF who is going to take us from hotel to apartment complex and hopefully to at least the supermarket.
Fuck, these damn meds.

867 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:05:03am

Killian
I am not saying it's true, now or then.
I'm saying it is irrelevant to the question of whether or not we must fight this war.
We had to fight it then...
and we have to fight it now.
Regardless.
Further to that
all I am saying is the death of any moderates is not our responsibility
it is the responsibility of the leaders of those people
and of their intellectuals, radicals and religious thinkers
who did not mount a fight against it themselves, for whatever the reasons.

868 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:06:04am

Roger

Whew! Some one finally mentioned boobs.

ROFL.

Boobs to the rescue!

869 haakondahl  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:06:23am

#723 M. BenssonLevi

(EXCEPT YOU, YOU SONOFABITCH,AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!)

Yeah, yeah, yeah... blow it out your other hole you old sphincter-sprinkler.

/presuming that was intended for me

P-)

ARRGH!

ファック ユ&# 12454; ツウ!

870 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:06:31am

863 loppyd

heh. idiot.

then again... I would hope the intelligent would follow the law.

871 zulubaby  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:08:49am

haakondahl, you're welcome, and ... dunno. Mark Twain? :-)

872 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:08:58am

Come from a failing State, a terrorist organization? No education? Love to murder, rape or molest children? Would you love to kill Jews, Infidels? Looking for high pay and legal immunity?

Have you considered an Ambassadorial or other UN position? UN Looking to Fill High Visibility Positions with People of Passion.

The United Nations should recruit stars such as Bono and Bob Geldof to inject the kind of passion seen in the Make Poverty History campaign, according to one of the leading candidates to succeed Kofi Annan as its secretary general.

Reason #599,582, 385 to disband the UN.

873 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:09:29am
Killian Bundy 7/25/2006 07:57AM PDT

#848 BabbaZee

Dateline, 1939:
Yep, every German is a Nazi that wants to kill Jews, 100%, no questions asked.

That wasn't true.

/not even then

Islam is not a Person...A Muslim is a person...By calling for the end of an EVIL IDEA...IS NOT CALLING FOR THE DEATH OF A PERSON...AMERICA NEEDS TO BAN ISLAM...IT IS HATE SPEECH.

874 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:09:34am

#861 Carridine

But although they didn't SUPPORT Nazi-race-supremacy, they ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN, piecemeal or not, and then they SUFFERED the bombings and decades of internment in East Germany!

Correct. It's not necessarily their fault, but it's their problem, win, lose, or draw. There's only so much that "the world" and Israel can do, and beyond that, they are in the unfortunate position of having to deal with it, or deal with the consequences of not dealing with it. Complaining about the injustice of it doesn't change the reality.

Israel's dealing with it's reality, it's time for these "moderate muslim" sasquatches to decloak and deal with their reality. If they're there.

875 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:10:58am
#864 storagemanager

ISLAM IS THE ENEMY.

Sure, whatever, but you can't kill 1.3 billion people, or 100 million for that matter, even if you were really efficient at it.

/think about it, embrace reality and the challenges involved

876 haakondahl  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:11:45am

#729 storagemanager

Look man, I hear you, but the majority of peoplee who matter (American voters) haven't even put it together in a substantial way. The term will stand as an aducational tool. Please pardon the redundancy--that is the nature of explaining the obvious to the oblivious.

ISLAMOFASCISM

877 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:11:58am

storemanager

good luck with that. let us know how it goes.

878 Obi-wan  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:12:11am

#866 realwest

Gotcha covered, my friend.

879 zenbone  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:12:14am

I use the term islamofascist to apply to those who actively want to commit violence and terror or at least incite violence and terror.

880 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:13:50am
881 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:14:46am

#860 LanceKates

Use of violent force and oppression is not limited to fascism.

Anti-semitism is not limited to fascism.

Similarities do not translate to substitutable.

882 zenbone  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:15:33am

Lurk. Post. Goodbye.

883 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:15:55am

Roger

Hillary before Rice?

GAAAH!

That just made my blood go cold.

884 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:16:12am

FYI

The interview link with Charles on Prager is working now

885 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:17:52am

#883 loppyd

yea, I know. It grieved me to mention it but someone had to.

886 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:18:31am

#866 realwest,

When you get to NC, you ought to contact Catholic Charities and ask about their Meals on Wheels program.

Let somebody bring you in a warm meal everyday until you get your strength back.

887 3 wood  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:20:06am

#813 Ward

Understood.

The point I'm trying to make is that until we change our consumption behavior in a significant way, the price situation will not change in a significant way. The days of $30 a barrel oil are gone forever folks, and $100 a barrel is fast approaching. But we tend to still consume oil as if it was $30 a barrel. And as long as people are willing to burn gas to stand in line to get ice cream, I don't think we are at that point yet.

888 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:20:16am

880 AI

and what is your response? to kill them all?

889 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:20:29am
890 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:21:24am

{m} Hiya, toots.

elBarto

target ass

Heh. He said a**.

Heh.

(*PEACE! TCG™*)

loppyd

Your job sounds an awful lot like working for the feds here.

Seriously.

:P

891 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:22:35am

#880 American Infidel

The majority of people are walking around with their heads full of two versions of islam, "islam is peace" and "islam has been hijacked" (aka islamofascism)...

The use of such terms as "islamofascism" or "radical islam", implies that there are "islams" that are not fascist or radicalized...

You have to walk before you can run. The first order of business, which hasn't been completed, is to get the message out to the masses that there's a serious danger. Too many people are blissfully unaware/in denial that there's a danger at all. 9/11 was just a bad dream. It didn't happen. Before we can start splitting semantic hairs about who the enemy is, we have to convince a clear majority that there is an enemy (other than Bush).

Once there's a broad understanding that there is a problem, we can work on refining the definition of who the problem is. Until thaen, you're wasting your time trifling over insignificant details.

Walk first. Then run.

892 fraxinus americana  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:23:41am

morning all

#866 realwewst
if your finances can handle it. you might find a market near the new place that lets you shop online then delivers the groceries to your door. Might want to check it out. As always wishing best of health, and luck to Lizards every where!

893 haakondahl  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:25:51am

#742 BabbaZee

Sharpton on his ample ass. :)

894 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:26:00am
895 realwest  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:28:00am

#878 Obi-Wan - I know you do and we thank you so much! Anyway you can clone yourself for a day or two? LOL!

896 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:29:30am
897 Obi-wan  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:31:10am

#895 realwest

Working on the X chromosone now! :-)

898 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:31:43am

*laughes*

that's what I thought.

just a pit bull.

barks and barks and barks... but not bite.

just like a liberal...

complain and complain and complain (and insult our president), but offer no solution.

899 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:31:49am

#883 loppyd

And not to wave the red flag(sorry Geepers & Iron Fist, etc) the republican leadership is well aware the two party American system does as only a pendulum can. They've been hedging their bets with Hillary as she is doing with them. They both don't want the pendulum to swing for the benefit of the Kos faction. Hillary will take advantage while also making some quiet promises to her husband's new family.

900 m  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:35:55am

Lance~She used to think that. She's changed her tune now (become sissified?) since Charles started talking about banning the "kill'em all" group.

My first post was eaten- if this comes through twice- sorry 'bout that!

901 fraxinus americana  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:37:56am

Ok i know these lyrics don't apply to Lizardiods. For the past few days i can't get the album Animals by Pink Floyd out of my head. Mostly this song.

Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away;
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.
You better watch out,
There may be dogs about
I've looked over Jordan, and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.

What do you get for pretending the danger's not real.
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes.
Now things are really what they seem.
No, this is no bad dream.

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green He leadeth me the silent waters by.
With bright knives He releaseth my soul.
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places.
He converteth me to lamb cutlets,
For lo, He hath great power, and great hunger.
When cometh the day we lowly ones,
Through quiet reflection, and great dedication
Master the art of karate,
Lo, we shall rise up,
And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water.

Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream.
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as you're told.
Get out of the road if you want to grow old.

902 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:39:01am

900 m

i saw the last one.

I guess i'm just not in a civil mood to put up with complaining about the 'dhimmi' bush is, and how we need to really go after all muslims . . .

but no solution. just whining.

'All islam is the enemy"

ok... so what do we do about it?

"All islam is the enemy!"

*sigh*

I could use a nice stress-free LGF day... so how about I confine most of my posts to you and other select DDTrs today?

how's your End of the Month shaping up?

903 haakondahl  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:40:13am

#770 Carridine

I hear you. Now I am really not anti-gay, but there's straight, and then there's everything else, which is gay. More formally, conduct which includes homosexual conduct is homosexual conduct.

If that's a given person's thing, then fine--but let's don't beat around the bush. Let me be the fist to say that I do not want to engayage in such hair-spitting.

904 3 wood  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:42:32am

#834 loppyd

Did you see Tiger's win this past weekend? I started crying when he broke down at the end.

Yep. I knew he would win it on Thursday when I saw the look in his eyes. Anybody who has ever been in competative sports, even as an amateur, knows what I mean. He was focused like a laser beam and he was not going to get beat. I laughed out loud when I saw Garcia looking like a bananna with ears on Sunday. You could just see Garcia was going to crumble before he even teed off. Els knee is still bothering him. Mickleson is too fat now to keep it together for 4 rounds in a major. All Woods had to do was not collapse, no one was going to go after him.

At this point in his career, Woods is the best long iron hitter going, plus his short game is up there too, much better than Mickleson even though Mickleson gets accolades for his trick shots. The only other golfer I've ever seen that was better with the long irons was Jack Nicklaus.

905 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:43:09am
906 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:44:51am

Anybody here actually ever been to an Islamic country? Ever lived in one? I have. They didn't kill me, they didn't threaten me (no, it was the so-called Christians doing that). Islam is not the enemy.

There are many enemies who embrace Islam but that is not the same as calling for the destruction of all islamic people.

Why can't you stubborn people grasp that point?

907 m  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:45:32am

#902 LanceKates

how's your End of the Month shaping up?

Looking good so far! Actually, this month will be my best all year :D

Yeee haaa!

:D

908 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:47:19am

Roger

Bubba's stop in CT to campaign for Lieberman was an interesting move. They must be wetting their pants thinking of what the Kosbats will do/say when she is running for the nomination.

909 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:48:01am

907 m

well good.

*grin*

good lord.. i've been on hold for half an hour.

910 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:48:48am

Trixelicious
Did I miss that TCG? Sorry I am not paying close attention, demands of work and all.
Same for you m.

911 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:51:28am

Good Morning {all y'all}
It's only Tuesday...
:-(

912 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:51:52am
913 loppyd  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:52:47am

PK

Surely your first hand experience can't match up to a bunch of bookmarked articles, links and books written on the topic.

914 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:53:15am
#905 American Infidel

There is still time to do it and the person that could do it, can get the West's attention by making such an identification and admitting to an error...

Okay, we get it, ISLAM IS THE ENEMY, what's your [expletive deleted] plan?

The world wonders.

/hey, it made Halsey cry

915 Obi-wan  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:53:56am

Over 4200 people here. No wonder LGF is sooo slooow!

916 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:54:51am

Loppy
It can't: and don't call me Surely..

917 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:56:28am

#908 loppyd

Yep, astonishing. I need to go read what is available on Bubba's current activities. Now that you mention it, my blood just got a chill too.

918 American Infidel[deleted]  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:56:29am
919 m  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:57:59am

#909 LanceKates
I hope you are using a speaker phone :)

#910 Peacekeeper
Yes! I'm not invisible!

;-)

920 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:58:04am
#496 Jim in Virginia 7/25/2006 04:36AM PDT
Hey babba!
From Isaiah:


They that wait upon the Lord shall renew theiri strength. They shall mount up with wings like eagles. They shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint.

Hey Jim.

Amen!

see y'all later

921 Roger  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:59:49am

#916 Peacekeeper

I thought Surely would be ok; just don't call you late for dinner.

922 LanceKates  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 6:59:54am

tsk tsk AI... you're not being truthful with us... let's look at what you've said you really believe:

a post from AI.

snip:

First and foremost, they are MOSLEMS...Therefore, every single MOSLEM is fair game, when and if it comes to the dropping of the NUCULAR BOMB or BOMBS...

923 fraxinus americana  Tue, Jul 25, 2006 7:00:06am

Want proof that men