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-RetweetHizballah's Body Handler Photographed in 1996

Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 4:53:43 pm PDT

EU Referendum has an update on the Hizballah “rescue worker” in the green helmet, the guy who paraded around with children’s bodies for hours at Qana, posing them for photographers.

Turns out that Green Helmet Guy must be the official Hizballah body handler; he has a history of turning up at attack sites and putting on ghoulish shows. EU Referendum found a photo from 1996, apparently showing the same person displaying another dead child to photographers: Who Is This Man? (WARNING: Graphic images.)

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1 PETN Sandwich  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 2:54:46pm

This 'man' should be on display himself.

2 Sir Lurksalot  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 2:57:17pm

Wow. Maybe he is the Grim Reaper.

3 mbruce  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 2:57:21pm

God, I love you guys,if anyone can get to the bottom of this the lizards can.

4 khamr  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 2:57:23pm

Liberals are the first enemy.

5 Taro  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 2:58:41pm

OT: A Methodist church was vandalized in Pasco County, FL, and the news article about it had the following interesting, noninformative quote:

Deputies said religious hate messages were spray-painted on several church buildings this weekend, possibly connected to the Mideast conflict.

The wording makes me suspicious.

Linky link

6 The False God  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 2:59:10pm

If this pans out, another thread will come unravelled.

It's a shame the noose the West has put itself in is so tight by our own efforts.

7 Abu Maven  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 2:59:30pm

To play devil's advocate (literally, perhaps), isn't it possible that this guy is simply a rescue worker who lives in Qana and therefore would have been on the scene for both events?

8 khamr  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 2:59:57pm

muslim + liberal = miserable.

9 Bubbaman  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:00:06pm

Wow, how convenient - first plant the explosives, next huddle the masses, third blow up the civilians, fourth dig them out and display their bodies in a beautiful propaganda ploy.

10 Cartman  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:00:26pm

#2 Sir Lurksalot

Wow. Maybe he is the Grim Reaper.

Beat me to it, my friend. That thought was absolutely the first thing that popped into my head upon going through the post.

11 sloggin420[deleted]  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:00:33pm
12 KevinV  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:02:11pm

Back in college, when I was working on a paper on the French Resistance, I did a lot of research on Nazi propaganda directed at the French. It was all so transparent and contrived, I found myself wondering how any rational adult could have fell for the obviousness of it all.

Now I know.

13 mollyshark  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:02:26pm

Taro, it is not so much what they said as what they have not said.

14 Taro  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:02:49pm

Searching at another website revealed it wasn't Muslims, just 'peace' activists, looks like.

15 Drogheda  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:02:59pm

Might want to add a little warning. The squeamish might prefer to not see the older photograph.

16 Rusty P  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:03:10pm

He needs a theme song:

"I get Around"
"Ramblin'Man"

Others?

-Rusty P

17 Bubbaman  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:03:21pm

If you've been watching CNN, the Bleeb, listening to NPR (I know who would bother) one would gain the impression that Hezbollah are a bunch of the ever revered "freedom fighters".

Mitchell Bard, in today's WT reminds us of who Hezbollah really is and the number of Americans murdered by these [bigoted word]s:

April 18, 1983 -- A truck-bomb exploded in front of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 63 employees, including the CIA's Middle East director, and wounding 120.
Oct. 23, 1983 -- A truck loaded with a bomb crashed into the lobby of the U.S. Marines headquarters in Beirut, killing 241 soldiers and wounding 81.
April 12, 1984 -- Hezbollah bombed a restaurant near a U.S. Air Force base in Torrejon, Spain, killing 18 servicemen and wounding 83 people.
September 20, 1984 -- A suicide bomb attack on the U.S. Embassy in East Beirut killed 23 people and injured 21.
December 4, 1984 -- Hezbollah terrorists hijacked a Kuwait Airlines plane and murdered American passengers Charles Hegna and William Stanford.
June 14, 1985 -- Hezbollah members hijacked a TWA flight and murdered Robert Stethem, a U.S. Navy diver.
Most of these attacks were some time ago, so the United States is long overdue in bringing the perpetrators to justice.

18 massachusetts republican  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:04:42pm

Pallywood! Its mike moore in disguise!

I have a solution to the saudi problem.
If we assume that Saudi Arabia is our mortal enemy. If they are slowly waging jihad upon us, and hope to either convert us or kill us, how do we respond?
Well, if they were not a primary pusher to us in our crack-oil addiction I would say bomb the hell out of them. But real politick requires a different approach.
Now bear with me…buy their oil. As much as we can as soon as we can...


read the rest at my site please...let me know if I m wrong.

thanks

19 Asylum Aleikum  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:06:11pm

The bastard must have a freezer full of children's bodies ready for the next "massacre".

20 Taro  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:06:13pm

Of course, on further reflection, those groups act more and more alike.

21 MoonbatBane  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:07:01pm

#7 Abu Maven 7/31/2006 04:59PM PDT

To play devil's advocate (literally, perhaps), isn't it possible that this guy is simply a rescue worker who lives in Qana and therefore would have been on the scene for both events?

Nope. A real rescue worker would not have carted the same body to miltiple locations for multiple propaganda shots, each posed to look like he just found the body there.

22 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:07:12pm

Sir Lurksalot

Wow. Maybe he is the Grim Reaper.

Our 8 year old says nope.

23 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:09:25pm

The key to the whole article is the elapsed times between the different photos.
In some cases, the same dead child was being posed for over 3 hours for various photo ops.

24 Solomon X  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:10:01pm

Parading dead children is best weapon they have to stop Israel. The last "manufactured massacre" got them a 48 hour pause and a tight yank on Israel's leash from Condi. Expect more.

25 khamr  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:13:05pm
#23 Village Idiot's Apprentice 7/31/2006 05:09PM PDT
The key to the whole article is the elapsed times between the different photos.
In some cases, the same dead child was being posed for over 3 hours for various photo ops

So you do shoot the messenger... sometimes.

26 Abu Maven  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:14:23pm

21 Moonbatbane,

Decent point, but your point holds even without respect to the 1996 photo. Clearly, this guy was hamming it up for the cameras -- based on the recent photos alone, we know that much -- but the question is whether this somehow proves that Hezbollah itself is responsible for the massacres?

The distinction is between exploiting an Israeli blunder for PR purposes versus intentionally killing your own civilians and then blaming Israel.

27 Abigail Adams  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:14:38pm

"Rescue worker" my ass. IMO this is no coincidence.

28 shug  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:18:18pm
29 Abu Maven  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:18:20pm

Did anyone see Opinion Journal today? It indicated that the disparities in time stamps does not necessarily mean that the pics were taken at different times, but more likely that the pictures were transmitted to the media at different times. I didn't quite follow the point, but it said something to that effect.

30 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:19:06pm

Abu Maven

The distinction is between exploiting an Israeli blunder for PR purposes versus intentionally killing your own civilians and then blaming Israel.

There seems to be enough questions on the timeline of the building collapse to say it could be either one.

31 wrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:19:07pm
32 bringiton  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:20:12pm

Another staged event with the resident Hezbollah propaganda minister. How long before the media connects the dots?

33 Skywise  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:21:09pm

Nah nah nah... While I concur that that's the same guy I don't agree that the children are the same nor that the children would be killed just for propoganda purposes.

However note that it IS normal in Arab countries to hire professional mourners who will wail and lament at your funeral for great effect.

34 Abu Maven  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:21:37pm

Village Idiot's Apprentice,

But if it is merely the former, then it's really no big deal. If the latter, then it's a huge deal.

35 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:22:16pm

#23 Village Idiot's Apprentice

the same dead child was being posed for over 3 hours for various photo ops.


That was my impression as well, but I've been thinking; Are the times stated the time the pic was taken or the time the photographer filed his pics with the home office?

36 piglet  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:22:59pm

Someone needs to sue for libel in English courts, and have these photographers forced to testify as to time and place they took photos, got called etc.

37 Abu Maven  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:23:10pm

35 Killgore,

See my comment, above, at 29.

38 Mike C.  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:23:13pm

Sorry for spamming upthread, but I'm still seeking info. I posted this on the thread below:

I need some help with a discussion on another list. Does anybody remember or have the links to the Hiz b'Allah attacks on the UNIFIL folks ? Or on any IDF video of rocket firings from UNIFIL positions ? Or on the matter a number of years back when UNIFIL video-taped IDF troops being kidnapped ? Also helpful would be links to any sites containing reports/video of rocket launches from civilian areas, secondary explosions from hits on supposed civilian targets, or official statements regarding loacation and contents of arms caches found in "civilian" structures. Thanks.

I have picked up the 3 days of UNIFIL reports regarding Hiz b'Allah firing from their positions, and also the IDF page regarding Qana. Still looking for secondary explosions from "civilian" targets or descriptions (in English) of arms caches in "civilian" structures. Thanks.

39 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:23:24pm

#23 VIA

The key to the whole article is the elapsed times between the different photos.
In some cases, the same dead child was being posed for over 3 hours for various photo ops.

James Taranto pointed out today that the time difference on the photos may have been attributable to the time-stamps on the wire-filing. I wonder if someone could tell the veracity of the pics by maybe looking at shadow angles.

40 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:25:25pm

No, children not killed for the photos.

But when you have a real disaster, you don't need to parade one body around for hours so it gets photographed. Rather, you pull one body after another out of the ruins for hours to graphically show how bad it was.

Propaganda is an art, but to be effective you build on the real to get what you want.

This has all the makings of something relatively minor being blown out of proportion for propaganda purposes.

41 mbruce  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:25:42pm

All this propoganda so that they can more easily kill us and OUR children.

42 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:26:01pm

This latest episode has an Hadithian stench to it; I'm waiting for them to bring in the wailing girl from the beach next.

They're not so much good at proprganda as they are at exploiting the willing gullibility of the leftists scum in the media and other willing accomplices.

43 Uncle Joe  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:28:13pm

Can you imagine the freakish scene? MSM photographers following this freak running around with dead babies. And none of the photographers have brains enough or integrity enough to figure it out?

44 MoonbatBane  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:30:42pm

#26 Abu Maven 7/31/2006 05:14PM PDT

The distinction is between exploiting an Israeli blunder for PR purposes versus intentionally killing your own civilians and then blaming Israel.

Point taken. A different fact addresses that issue, though: The Qana building didn't collapse until well after the Israeli strike, along with a separate explosion. There was a thread on that here. What that probably means is (a) Hezbollah had explosives stored there that eventually cooked off or (b) Hezbollah blew the building themselves after the fact. That points to a fabricated propaganda piece.

No way to tell whose munitions killed the poor child. Ultimate responsibility, however, rests with Hezbollah for starting the whole mess by attacking Israel over an extended period of time from civilian locations.

But I'm sure you know that...

45 alkmyst  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:30:56pm

Seems he makes an appearance here, too

46 MoonbatBane  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:33:09pm

#29 Abu Maven 7/31/2006 05:18PM PDT

Did anyone see Opinion Journal today? It indicated that the disparities in time stamps does not necessarily mean that the pics were taken at different times, but more likely that the pictures were transmitted to the media at different times. I didn't quite follow the point, but it said something to that effect.

Really? My digital camera time/date stamps when I take the picture, not when I upload the image to my PC -- that's a different time/date stamp on the file itself put there by the computer.

In other words, the explanation does not seem to hold water to me...

47 twalsh  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:33:41pm

I bet the dead woman they brought out of the Jewish center in Seattle on Friday was covered in some way and not paraded for the cameras.

48 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:33:55pm

I just now saw the comments concerning the time stamps. Several other issues brought up were things like the dead children being all brought out from the same hole in the building, as if they were stacked there to be filmed during the recovery.
Also the fact that recovery operations didn't start till a sufficient number of photographers were on hand.

You really have to read both articles, word for word, and follow the links and comments to get a better feel.

49 400lb gorilla  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:34:11pm

You guys are spot on. I haven't seen this guy since he used to bottom for 50 to 100 guys a night at the mineshaft in NYC

50 Catttt  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:34:27pm

O'Reilly is ripping Osama Siblani of Arab American News a new one in re the Secretary Rice cartoon and the vile racism. Mr. Siblani pathetically tried to "explain" the monkey.

51 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:39:08pm

Oh for crying out loud.

What would we do without your fine detective work, Charles?

un-flippin-be-leivable.

52 shug  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:39:24pm

50 cattt

To siblani, which does he dislike most about Sec Rice?

Her race?
Her gender?
The fact that she is BOTH shows intelligence and has demanded and shown authority over his weak brethren?

53 kaiser  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:39:58pm

Hizbo propaganda at work, this guy is making Joseph Goebbels and his propaganda machine look silly.

54 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:40:53pm

Abu Maven -

I personally hunted up photos from Qana Massacre 1996 to compare to 2006. I found more than just the headless baby one. In one of the pics I found the guy is wearing the same vest and he is wearing the same helmet in both of them. The pictures from the two decades are extremely similar.

Same guy - same pics - same massacre - 10 years apart

Anybody got a stats program to calculate the odds of that? Must be downright ginormous!

55 TMF  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:41:10pm

I think he has a woody

Fucking gore-whore

56 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:43:19pm

Going back to EU Referendum's original post, Milking it, one gets a sense the the shadow angles back up the time-stamp discussed, IMO.

I'm no expert.

57 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:43:31pm
58 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:43:48pm

galloping granny
Pn your photos from 1996, does any of them have the guy carrying a radio in the left shirt/vest pocket?

If so, does it look like the same radio as the recent pictures.
I would imagine, that would be an even larger odd.

59 HDrepub  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:43:52pm

43 Uncle Joe

And none of the photographers have brains enough or integrity enough to figure it out?

The photographers are probably complicit in the plot is my guess.

60 orangutan  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:44:21pm

Why does Hollywood like the Arab cause? It's great theater, of course! It has props, character acting, and a slew of stars.

61 Liz Ard  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:45:46pm

OT: Iran to ban foreign words.

Decree of Ahmadinejad: "official documents and books you drained to us use the terms agrees to you from the Persian Academy" TEHRAN - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad bans foreign words: the Iranian president has ordered to the governmental agencies, to the daily paper and to all the organisms of the culture Iranian translate in whichever foreign word become of common use is made. As an example, the "Pizza", would be referred to as "elastic bread".

[edited translation from Babelfish] of this article .

62 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:47:54pm

galloping granny

Your link is to a photo from today.
(I think)

63 Pamela  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:48:11pm

not sure if this will work, previewing to make sure


not it won't, wanted to post the image from Children Of Bodom's "Follow The Reaper" that is who that guy reminds me of.


Follow The Reaper


He is "Roy The Reaper"

64 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:48:19pm

galloping granny, I think that's a different camera angle of the pics we're seeing today.

65 realwest  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:48:23pm

Charles (or anyone else who might know) do you know if EU Referendum is sending this material to the "proper authorities" or at least to some of the Ancient Media?

66 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:48:41pm

Not to put a damper on connecting dots here... but...

I don't believe for a minute this wasn't staged for propaganda benefit (one level or another), but the green helmet guy (Hezbo or not) might not be an official plant.

How big is Qana anyway and how many Civil Defense/Propaganda workers do you suppose they have?

In other words, it might not be that odd that the same guy is involved in each incident.

67 KingKenrod  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:48:48pm

More than likely this guy is the Hez's Qana "sugar daddy", the guy who runs Hebollah's social services in Qana, the public PR rep.

68 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:49:21pm

#62 - Nope, clearly marked on Google as 1996

69 pat  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:49:40pm

Meet Joe Black.

70 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:50:02pm

granny,

Did he wear glasses in '96?

71 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:50:43pm

#37 Abu Maven
Yeah, I think that might be the case. still trying to figure this one out.

72 bringiton  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:51:45pm

#48

Also, the search and recovery effort after a building collapse typically takes days not minutes or hours...

73 jaynumber13  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:52:23pm

Do people think we wouldn't notice?

I love when these bullsh*t artists get called out. I don't like being manipulated.

Bastards.

74 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:52:38pm

#70 Noam Sayin'

Yeah, he does seem to have the 2006 salt-n-pepper beard as well.

75 Liz Ard  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:52:43pm

OT: well, I guess the english-language media has been reporting on Iran's ban on foreign words, so you can spare yourself the poor babelfish translation in my earlier link.

TEHRAN, Iran - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has ordered government and cultural bodies to use modified Persian words to replace foreign words that have crept into the language, such as "pizzas" which will now be known as "elastic loaves," state media reported Saturday.

Here it is in English .

76 sngnsgt  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:52:44pm

Anyone watch Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points tonight? Right on the money. View here.

77 obscured by clouds  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:54:01pm

Such crude, obvious, propaganda...but yet so useful and effective...just giving the masses what they want. If the victims were only infidels it would qualify as Islamic pornography. Muslim victims are the next best thing it seems.

78 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:54:28pm

#68 galloping granny

Then we have a problem

Scroll down to the 10th photo.

79 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:55:32pm

#61 liz ard:

I noticed that article the other day. One has to know that they've probably banned Western words like liberty, justice, and freedom, but reserved the right to use words like uranium, tritium, and thermonuclear weapon.

It's always a sign of a failed society when they try to ban words.

As for trying to figure out the timing of the Qana photos, I'd suggest trying to track down the ghoul in the photos and the photographer. I think a conversation with both would be quite informative.

80 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:55:45pm

#74 vet

Yeah, I just noticed it's the same as photo #10 in the 'Milking It' post (link in my #56).

81 jrdroll  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:56:13pm

July 31, 2006
Get Ready For The Offensive

The Israelis may have found some encouragement from new intel that says Hezbollah has run low on launchers, if not the rockets. They want to make sure they can capture or destroy the rest before they end this campaign, and have reached the conclusion that air power alone cannot achieve that objective.

While Israel earlier had asked for a 2-km buffer zone, reports say that the IDF incursion will penetrate much further than that. An Israeli commander interviewed on Fox said that they plan on pushing far into Lebanon to chase down and cut off Hezbollah. The IAF has successfully cut off many of the roads that Hezbollah would use to pull their equipment to safety in Syria, and they would need to act fast in order to take advantage of the cut in communications.


[Link: www.captainsquartersblog.com...]

82 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:56:34pm

#68/62 - Sorry. My mistake. This one is from yesterday. blurb is Qana 1996 relived ...

Still looking for more though

83 sailordude  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:57:13pm

Qana is a classic Pallywood deception op eagerly bought into by the terror loving, jew hating world media.

/if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's pallywood.

84 newscaper  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:57:17pm

OT
via Drudge
Paris to ban topless sunbathing along the Seine

[Link: www.iol.co.za...]

Reading between the lines, I see this as cavign int he face of the muslim "youths"

85 tradewind  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:57:32pm

O/T, but I'm too steamed to wait for the open thread. You'd think after Lockerbie they'd have learned, but nooo.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

86 Catttt  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:57:42pm

52 shug

The man was off the bullshit meter. He made every excuse in the book but never faced up to the issue. He offered several long explanations, always beginning with "let me explain it to you" and always totally bogus and inevitably cut off by O'Reilly with "oh come on" comments cutting down the "explanations." The only thing I could understand at all was that the monkey fetus is a symbol of something perfectly nice and ok. He just never explained what that was, the bastard.

87 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:58:19pm

galloping granny

Are you sure that your photo is labeled 1996?
And am I mistaken that it's the same as the 10th photo in the article?

Is someone mixing photo's, or am I going crazy?

88 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 3:59:43pm

#82 gg

Got it.
Thanks

89 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:00:01pm

*ATTENTION LGF SHOPPERS*

NHC will upgrade Tropical Disturbance #99L to Tropical Depression #3 at 10:30 pm AST. This means at least 3 colors, and font-sizes up to 32 point during lunch hour tomorrow, with latest detail on growing threat to coast between Miami and Hatteras

90 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:00:02pm

#82 Granny

No problem, would have been an excellent find.

Is is me (not to be a freak'in goul... but this forensic stuff takes you there, like it or not) that the baby being toted about is absolutely filthy with dirt and grime, yet that pascifier and chain is perfectly clean and, therefore, easier to see and identify?

91 yehoshua  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:00:04pm

Iraq government jumps on bash Israel bandwagon and US effort there begins to look misplaced. If the so-called new Iraq just becomes another Israel hating country, what
has the world gained?

92 Catttt  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:00:24pm

Hey, I know. Let's call the photographers and ask them who their model is and whether he works on spec or is salaried.

93 tradewind  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:02:20pm

Catt,
I thought the monkey in utero was supposed to be the disastrous peace plan that is so unaccceptable to the [bigoted word]s, but of course, He Said, no (wink, nudge) racism implied. (yeah)

What bullshiite. I can't believe O'Really even had the creep on there.

94 Geepers  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:02:49pm

yehoshua (#91),

Iraq government jumps on bash Israel bandwagon

Link?

95 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:03:02pm

#90 vet

Was thinking the same thing myself. The nuck is plastic, so it may have shed the dust.

96 OceansideCon  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:03:14pm

The monster made the cover of today's Financial Times as well.

97 tradewind  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:03:55pm

#89,

No potential for the Gulf, please... the damn things follow my every trip.

98 rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:04:40pm
99 jrdroll  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:05:29pm

Bekka Valley hit - FOX

100 sailordude  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:06:03pm

#85 tradewind

The story you linked to sounds like more media B/S.

Unless Israel was on the verge of running out of ordnance (not likely after only 20 days) airlift is the least desirable method of bringing in the bombs.

A much more likely method is via commercial shipping. Transit time for ships from east coast US to eastern Med is less than a week. One shipload is literally 100's of air sorties.

101 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:07:08pm

#95 Noam Sayin'

Yeah, plastic is a mitigating factor. Does seem a little _too_ perfect, though.

Now I have to try to look at the rubber mouth part. I _know_ from experience with my kids those things _suck up_ dirt...

102 rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:07:53pm
103 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:08:02pm

No wonder we will never have peace.
Has anyone seen Israels unrealistic demands before they stop fighting

/Do I need it?

104 mattm  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:08:18pm

OT

If anyone want's a look into the "unbiased" college world view look no further than UC Berkeley, Politics an Public Policy. iTunes is required.

105 SnowDawg  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:09:00pm

OT Stuff happening in Korea

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

106 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:09:38pm

#90 Vet_Missing - Is is me (not to be a freak'in goul... but this forensic stuff takes you there, like it or not) that the baby being toted about is absolutely filthy with dirt and grime, yet that pascifier and chain is perfectly clean and, therefore, easier to see and identify?

Yes, that pacifier struck me as decidedly odd too. For one thing, the string on it is very, very long - long enough to have choked that child if he were not already dead. And VERY clean. Seems to me to be far too clean to have actually been on the child when the entire rest of him and all the clothes he had on had grime ground into them.

107 jrdroll  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:10:18pm

#91 y

If the so-called new Iraq just becomes another Israel hating country, what
has the world gained?

Fractures in the Arab-Persian-Kurdish-Turk; Sunni-Shiite-Sufi world.

108 Cartman  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:10:42pm

#79 lawhawk

As for trying to figure out the timing of the Qana photos, I'd suggest trying to track down the ghoul in the photos and the photographer. I think a conversation with both would be quite informative.

I'm betting odds that the Green Helmeted Ghoul has gone back to his rocket-launcing post, under UN and civilian cover. The interview will have to wait?

109 Geepers  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:11:14pm

From the ever insightful kos kids:

The rise of imperialistic Christo-fascism in the US is a big big problem that is not going away soon. It's roots are in ignorance and political manipulation of Christianity and nationalism by the Republicans. This militant fundamentalism has become the most dangerous movement on earth, and I'm not talking about the Muslims. Everytime you here them talking about rallying the base on TV, think 'more killing' because they are fueling a zealot blood lust. How much damage religion has done in the hands of evil men over the centuries.

not going away soon

That part worries me. It takes quite a seismic event to shift the mentality of a country. What will it take to get the Christian fundamentalists to relent? No idea. Their mission is to convert us all (or kill us all).

And these morons vote.

110 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:11:25pm

OK... I looked as best I could. Either the tip is appropriately dirty or I just can't tell.

Hung Jury. :-(

111 ReligionOfGoatherds  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:12:09pm

Don't let the Europeans find out he keeps showing up at disaster sites. They're liable to label him a miracle-worker and award him a peace prize.

112 storagemanager  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:12:41pm

04:03 IAF warplanes strike targets in Lebanon`s Bakaa Valley (AP)...The Terror Valley

113 storagemanager  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:14:38pm

Witnesses: Israeli planes strike Hizbullah areas deep inside Lebanon


Israeli warplanes struck Hermel deep inside Lebanon early Tuesday, 120 kilometers (73 miles) north of the Israeli border in the Bekaa Valley in eastern Lebanon, a known Hizbullah stronghold, witnesses reported.

Warplanes fired at least five air-to-surface missiles on the town, the witnesses said. It was not clear what was hit and whether there were any casualties. Another strike targeted an area near the Syrian border, about 10 kilometers (6 miles) north of Hermel. (AP)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

114 mbruce  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:15:07pm

Hoo boy,now the Norks are taking pot shots at the South Koreans

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

115 pegcity  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:15:29pm
Israeli warplanes struck Hermel deep inside Lebanon early Tuesday, 120 kilometers (73 miles) north of the Israeli border in the Bekaa Valley in eastern Lebanon, a known Hizbullah stronghold, witnesses reported.

YES YES YES

116 jrdroll  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:16:23pm

#109 geepers

Their mission is to convert us all (or kill us all).


Projection?

117 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:18:25pm
118 khamr  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:18:56pm

Europe is the enemy.

119 jrdroll  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:19:47pm

#114
Newt was right.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich thinks we are entering the early stages of a third world war


[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

120 khamr  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:20:53pm

EuRoPE iS tHe ENeNeMy.

121 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:21:27pm

#110 - RE the binkie. I'm going to run the pic through a graphics program and step it up to about 2000% - then I'll tell you. Takes a bit, gotta do it about 10% at a time in order not to lose the detail. Back with it in a while

122 Pamela  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:21:41pm
#115 pegcity
Israeli warplanes struck Hermel deep inside Lebanon early Tuesday, 120 kilometers (73 miles) north of the Israeli border in the Bekaa Valley in eastern Lebanon, a known Hizbullah stronghold, witnesses reported.

YES YES YES

faster please, go IDF, listening again "Yalla Nasralllah" again!

123 yehoshua  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:22:48pm

#94 Geepers

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

I am so sick of this "he had to say it for political reasons." It's the same old scapegoating of Israel to bolster local support and distract from internal political problems.

Sorry. It just doesn't wash. US should condemn anti-Israel statements of Iraqis,
but of course this will never happen.

124 khamr  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:23:09pm

europe are the enablers.

125 Cato the Elder  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:23:50pm

Had to look away.

Sorry, you flesh-eating monster. My imagination suffices.

May he meet a fitting end, and soon.

126 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:24:25pm

I'm about to turn the TV off and say shiite on the whole terror war because Americans and Israelis seem to have forgotten how to fight. Mind you, I'm not be critical of the people actually doing the fighting - they are the best. I am being highly critical of both governments and the military brass for going along.

You win to win this war? Here's how:

(1) Objective #1 - I want our enemy asking why we hate them so much. When they gather for one of their lovefest protests, strafe the SOB.

(2) I want the leaders of both countries to announce effective immediately, we don't care what the rest of the world thinks and here's our poll. We are going to destroy you. You hate us? Good! We're going to give you real reasons to hate us even more.

(3) When a prisoner at Gitmo throws feces or urine on our soldiers, I want the SOB thrown in a pit of pigshit up to neck for 24 hours, then no bathing for one month. Second offense, throw him out the back of a plane.

(4) Israel - effective immediately, boot CNN out of your country and tell them it is because of the blatant anti-Semitism and bias. They are no longer officially welcome in your country until further notice.

(5) The U.S. Congress is to announce effective immediately that the U.S. will no longer participate in the United Nations. Give the "diplomats" and their toadies a reasonable amount of time to get out of town. Say by the end of 2006.

(6) Forget about civilian casualties. Trust me, your enemy has done the same for you. When the world screams outrage, we should sing "c'est la vie" or "shit happens."

(7) STFU about our plans! Just do it, then lie about your next plan.

(8) Pull out all the stops short of WMD. If necessary, be prepared to use WMD and don't hesitate to do so without warning.

(9) Go on the offensive and cut this defensive shit. Interrogate the way we see fit and tell the Geneva crowd we'll abide when the rest of world decides to abide. Not until then.

(10) End our relationship with the Saudis.

127 Cartman  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:24:26pm

#109 Geepers

...imperialistic Christo-fascism

Like many others here at LGF, I refuse to put my footprint on that vile site. Do we have a new Kos-nomer terminological abortion over there? The Kids are absolutely, dangerously amazing!

128 jrdroll  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:25:48pm

#123 y

US should condemn anti-Israel statements of Iraqis,

Let the fractures in the world of Islam proceed.

129 khamr  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:25:53pm

Europe keeps us in perpetual Jihad.

130 sms111  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:26:17pm

From link at Drudge [Link: today.reuters.com...] :

Reuters: Diplomats in Damascus say the Syrian army has been on alert since the Israeli onslaught on Lebanon began on July 12 after Hizbollah fighters captured two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border operation.

Corrected version:

Diplomats in Damascus say the Syrian army has been on alert since the Israeli onslaught on Lebanon self-defense against Syrian/Iranian-backed terrorists began on July 12 after Hizbollah fighters captured abducted two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border operation illegal and premeditated violation of Israel's border and U.N. resolutions to disarm in a blatant act of war.

There, fixed that for ya, Reuters.

131 rickl  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:26:21pm
#61 Liz Ard

As an example, the "Pizza", would be referred to as "elastic bread".


At least they didn't ban pizza itself.

/they can't be that crazy

132 storagemanager  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:28:02pm

Bomb the hell out of terror valley IDF...GODS SPEED.

133 Geepers  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:28:22pm

yehoshua (#123),

Thanks for the link.

US should condemn anti-Israel statements of Iraqis,
but of course this will never happen.

Howard Dean called him an anti-Semite.

134 jrdroll  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:28:58pm

#126
shoot the media

135 Pamela  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:29:06pm
#119 jrdroll

#114
Newt was right.


the start of WWIII began when Carter was in the white house(shudder) when he wimped out to the Iranians.

136 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:29:45pm

So, have you guys all seen Carl in Jerusalem's post about the magic 30 foot tall banner of Condi with her mouth dripping blood that appeared in Qana within hours yesterday am? You should all go take a look.

I gotta tell you, it's hard keeping up with all the lies.

137 sms111  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:30:39pm
Israeli warplanes struck Hermel deep inside Lebanon early Tuesday, 120 kilometers (73 miles) north of the Israeli border in the Bekaa Valley in eastern Lebanon, a known Hizbullah stronghold, witnesses reported.

Israelis lied and Hizbullah terrorists died.

(boo hoo - here's the World's Smallest Violin, as Taranto says)

138 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:31:33pm

Can I change my ID to 'Green Helmet Guy'?

Seriously folks, I don't know who is worse, the scum Hizbullah or the media who gulp down their propaganda.

139 jrdroll  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:32:23pm

#123 yehoshua

Fracture Islam at this point. Let them kill each other.

140 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:32:54pm

#126 goodbye_natalie

You have my vote :-)

141 storagemanager  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:33:07pm

CNN NEWS FLASH...Cuban President Fidel Castro is transferring power provisionally to brother Raul while he undergoes an operation, Cuban TV announces.

142 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:34:42pm

#141

Dibs on starting a Fidel Death Watch!

143 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:34:52pm

#136 galloping granny,

So, have you guys all seen Carl in Jerusalem's post about the magic 30 foot tall banner of Condi with her mouth dripping blood that appeared in Qana within hours yesterday am? You should all go take a look.

Really? That's great.

(11) Construct a monument made out of ice with Mahmoud and his organ inserted into a little Muslim boy or a goat. Makes no difference.

See how easy it is to fight the propaganda war?

144 rickl  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:35:39pm
#126 goodbye_natalie


Wonderful post. From your mouth to my ear. :)

(10) End our relationship with the Saudis.


(11) It may be time to consider seizing the Saudi oil fields. That'll give the "it's all about oooiiilll" crowd something to chew on.

145 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:36:12pm

Lebanese Druze Leader Walid Jumblatt Criticizes Nasrallah: "Adolf Hitler Also Aroused His People's Sense of Honor, and Led Germany Into War"

To view this Special Dispatch in HTML, visit: [Link: www.memri.org...] .

The following are excerpts from an interview with Lebanese Druze leader Walid Jumblatt,(1) which aired on Al-Mustaqbal TV on July 29, 2006.

Walid Jumblatt: "Whatever happens, Hizbullah will emerge victorious. To whom will Hizbullah dedicate this victory? Will it dedicate the victory to the Lebanese state, to the honoring of international resolutions, to the Taif Agreement? Or will it dedicate it to the Syrian regime, the Syrian-Iranian axis, in which case we will become scorched earth, annexed to Syria and Iran? Each of these countries wants, with this abduction, to negotiate with America over the remains of the Lebanese homeland."

"There can be no honor associated with a fascist regime like the Syrian regime, or, to be more precise, there can be no honor associated with a regime which is semi-divine, like the Iranian regime."

Interviewer: "You are referring to the principle of the rule of the jurisprudent."

Walid Jumblatt: "I don't want to go into jurisprudent theories... Ultimately, there were civilized peoples... I don't want to make a comparison, but Adolf Hitler also aroused his people's sense of honor, and led Germany into war."

146 Pamela  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:37:33pm

Cuban President Fidel Castro is transferring power provisionally to brother Raul while he undergoes an operation, Cuban TV announces


[Link: www.cnn.com...]

147 sms111  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:39:00pm

#61 Liz Ard

OT: Iran to ban foreign words.

Will they replace "female genital mutilation" with something like "slicing the flower"?

Inquisitive minds want to know.

148 Geepers  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:39:32pm

Cartman (#127),

They're get so many things just fundamentally wrong.

And I don't know if the lack of clarification is because, like around here where after a while the nutters just get ignored, or if they really are that clueless.

Either way, there are a lot of people there seriously lacking understanding.

149 Pamela  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:41:05pm

I wodner what kind of care Castro will get in Cuba? The modern marvel of medicine that the holywierd libs espouse?

150 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:43:33pm

Castro's death watch started when his doctor announced he'd live to 140. I'm surprised this hasn't happened before.

Good riddance...now do the Cuban people a favor and can his brother when he dies.

151 MJBrutus  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:44:29pm

Good work if you can get it. Do you suppose he's hourly, or on salary? Does Hezbollah provide a dental plan for Ghouls?

152 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:44:53pm

#138 nosubmission:

Definitely the media. They should know better than to accept the terrorist propaganda and choose to run with it anyway. Their laziness and failure to properly vet stories shows at every turn.

153 Kohenan The Barbarian  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:47:05pm

The "Atrocity Swarm" provides endless propaganda and limitless outrage opportunities --an integrel part of the offensive tools used by Terrorist Barbarians who have no compunction in sacrificing their own to become Collateral Martyrs-- then follows obscene adoration by the MSM and perpetual Antisemites of these opportunities-- allowing them to villify and focus all blame upon Israel --this is the most powerful tool in the military arsenal of Hamas and Hisballa--their accusations of infantacide, genocide, aggression are their most potent weapons --over time the land for peace paradigm will constrict Eretz Yisrael into an indefencable geographic configuration that will negate the value of a superior military might--and that is the end goal of the Islamofacists --producing the oportunity for total eradication of Israel.

154 Buckaroo  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:47:23pm

Green Helmet Guy isn't enough of a derisive moniker ...

Take a look at him -- he's freakin' Inspector Clouseau!

155 sailordude  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:47:25pm

#135 pamela

I think WWIII started when Sirhan Sirhan shot Bobby Kennedy in 1968. One year after the 1967 war.

156 Pamela  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:47:41pm

#150 goodbye_natalie

do you suppose Castro's people are amking sure ther are sterile gloves in the hospital and that he has clean sheets/

157 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:48:40pm

Bush is only articulate when he's mad. He needs to work up a froth and sustain it for about six months. Get mad and start cussing some more.

Then he needs to fly over to Iraq and announce to our troops that the days of "protection" are over. "We will do what we need to do, the rest of the world opinion be damned. World don't like it? Tough shiite.

158 ReligionOfGoatherds  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:49:00pm

#126 goodbye_to_natalie

All that and a bag of chips!

I only disagree with (5). We should stay in, but appoint Anna Nicole Smith as our ambassador, with strict instructions to veto everything.

159 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:50:34pm

#156 Pamela,

do you suppose Castro's people are amking sure ther are sterile gloves in the hospital and that he has clean sheets/

The only remaining box in the country!

160 tradewind  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:52:09pm

#144,

Hell yeah... the West gave the Saudis the oil fields, and we should, as the saying goes,
Kick their ass,
Take back our gas.

I'd love to see the royal flag over the House of Saud replaced with the Big Red Texaco Star...and no crescent.

The Bekaa news, great. Shoulda been done long ago. Clean out that rats' nest.

161 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:53:12pm

Kerry wants to engage France? Is that some kind of joke? Why?

God, I **shudder** to think this man almost made it...

162 mich-again  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:55:19pm

126 goodbye natalie

To cripple Irans's ability to finance a sustained war effort, Israel may eventually consider obliterating Iran's oil production facilities. Iran has gone to great lengths to conceal their huge vulnerability to losing oil cash flow by making brazen threats about possibly disrupting the oil shipments from other nations through the Gulf. And then.. making public statements that they will not use oil as a weapon. You know, honor among thieves and all...

But if Iran were to lose their oil cash flow, they wouldn't be left with much else to generate cash with. Or fund nuclear weapons R&D, Or support terrorism. Its their Achille's heel.

So why the world frets over Iran's nuclear facilities and just how to stop the research or reduce their program to rubble before its too late, the answer might just be right in front of everyone's nose.

163 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:55:28pm

Updated my roundup on events in Lebanon and the diplomatic efforts. While the diplomats are jawboning and complaining about Israel's retaliatory strikes against Hizbullah targets throughout Lebanon, and specifically the Qana incident, Israel is engaging Hizbullah in force on the ground.

164 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 4:58:07pm

JFK looks like he's suffering from the D.T.s. He looks unshaven, has the hog jowls, and eyes that are sunk back in his head.

Probably got the bottle stashed in his pants.

165 HDrepub  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:00:52pm

Cartman and Geepers

The left has worried more about Christian fundamentalists than any other perceived threat for quite a while now. Janet Reno had a thing going called the Megiddo Project during the Billy Jeff BUBBA administration with surveillance on the "right wing fundamentalists", in connection with Y2K, as she somehow believed the "right wing fundamentalists" were going to do something awesome in the millenium year. The money and time should have been spent studying the intents of Islamic radicals instead, and Clinton shouldn't have been asleep at the switch, or studying where and when he would get his next blowjob or other illicit sexual affair.

166 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:01:34pm

#162 mich-again,

To cripple Irans's ability to finance a sustained war effort, Israel may eventually consider obliterating Iran's oil production facilities. Iran has gone to great lengths to conceal their huge vulnerability to losing oil cash flow by making brazen threats about possibly disrupting the oil shipments from other nations through the Gulf. And then.. making public statements that they will not use oil as a weapon. You know, honor among thieves and all...

I agree with everything you said but we've got a shorter jaunt over to Mahmoud's house. I say let Israel drill Lebanon and Syria and we show Mahmoud what a real environmental disaster looks like.

167 brenda  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:03:17pm

Hmmm, this "Gallery of Zionist Massacres" including pix from 1996 does appear to have the Mystery Man, as galloping granny says.

[Link: resistance.jeeran.com...]

The headless baby photo...

168 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:05:46pm

#165 HDrepub,

Cartman and Geepers

The left has worried more about Christian fundamentalists than any other perceived threat for quite a while now. Janet Reno had a thing going called the Megiddo Project during the Billy Jeff BUBBA administration with surveillance on the "right wing fundamentalists", in connection with Y2K, as she somehow believed the "right wing fundamentalists" were going to do something awesome in the millenium year. The money and time should have been spent studying the intents of Islamic radicals instead, and Clinton shouldn't have been asleep at the switch, or studying where and when he would get his next blowjob or other illicit sexual affair.

You want to hear something great? During the Monica years, the number of people calling themselves Fundamentalists or Evangelicals increased between 11-13% in America, depending on which lying lib poll you choose.

Looks like Janet's date stood her up again. YELL A LITTLE LOUDER KOS!

169 Ledger1  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:06:04pm

With the sheer number pictures of Mr. Green Helmet holding dead children it red-lines my suspicion meter!

In fact, Mr. Green Helmet appears to be a plant (a plant so obvious that you could water it).

It’s time to get the book on Mr. Green Helmet Ghoul:

What is his real name?

What is his real nationality?

What is his real occupation (other than being photographed with a dead child in his hands)?

What type of radio does he carry around and why?

What type of medical training does he have – if any?

Does he pronounce a child “dead” by any medical standards?

Does he ever save a child?

How does he manage to quickly get transported to child death locations?

How does he manage to transport dead children to hospitals or morgues (does he have ambulance service – on the off hand chance a child is still alive)?

How is he alerted to said child death locations? Radio? Cell phone? TV reporters?

Does he get parental permission to brandish dead children before TV cameras?

Has he ever attended a funeral of a dead child he has pulled from the rubble?

Has he ever been injured while being close proximity to bombings?

Where can he be telephoned or emailed regarding his well timed dead children brandishing scenes?

170 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:09:27pm

#152 lawhawk
Definitely the media. They should know better than to accept the terrorist propaganda and choose to run with it anyway. Their laziness and failure to properly vet stories shows at every turn.

I don't think it is even laziness. They are victims of their own medium - figure if they "see" it with their own two eyes, then it must be "real."

As anyone who has ever sat through one of those many classes where they stage a shooting incident and then have everyone describe what they saw can attest, what you see is rarely what actually happened.

If any one of those so-called reporters/photographers had the first bit of medical knowledge they would have had a great big long list of questions.

171 HDrepub  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:12:01pm

168 goodbye_natalie

YELL A LITTLE LOUDER KOS!

Yes by all means Kos Kiddies, Keep up the Klaptrap. Is it just me or are they the world's biggest dumbasses?

172 Geepers  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:17:14pm

HDrepub (#171),

Certainly a giant collection (collective?) of dumbasses.

173 Cartman  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:26:31pm

I suppose the D.K. serves a legitimate need. When times are bad, life seems kinda tough, and you may question your sanity, The Kids have a unique way of making you reaffirm your own personal mental clarity and sense of purpose.

174 biff  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:45:07pm

I think I may have found him, and Green Helmet Guy is a Hizb'allah biggie.

Compare EUReferendum's 1996 photo with the headless corpse

to this 2001 photo of Hizb'allah recruits being sworn in at a ceremony with Nasrallah and his top cronies.

Look at the guy sitting directly behind Nasrallah. Compare him to EUReferendum's photo. It's the same guy. My guess is that he is head of Hizb'allah's communications and propaganda wing. Green Helmet Guy is Hizb'allah's Josef Goebbels.

175 YouGottaBeKidding  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:50:43pm

According to an AP in the Baton Rouge paper this morning, Green Helmet's name is Abu Shadi Jradi. If you google that name, you get a ton of links to two or three versions of the story.

176 BenZacharia  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:54:39pm

174 biff

2nd row middle?

177 biff  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 5:59:24pm

Yeah, 3rd from left

178 BenZacharia  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:01:20pm
177 biff 7/31/2006 07:59PM PDT
Yeah, 3rd from left

Sure you don't mean 3rd from the right?

.

179 BenZacharia  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:02:22pm

177 biff 7/31/2006 07:59PM PDT
Yeah, 3rd from left

DOH!

ignore last post, i learn to count next week

180 biff  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:09:29pm

#179 BenZacharia

almost ROTFLMAO

put these photos in separate windows and reduce the EUReferendum phto down to the head and put it next to the Matyr's Day Image. I really think its the same guy.

181 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:09:35pm

Umm, guys, I have taken a look at all the Qana photos. And unless a daycare was bombed there is a severely disproportionate amount of children dead in the press photos. So something is really wrong here.
Also, the Islamists I talked to in the middle east told me that children are not highly important, especially females. Only the first born male is held in importance as an actual child the rest are just additional workers in the household.

182 really grumpy big dog johnson  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:13:37pm

Dog and Pony shows like this make me remember the grandmaster with fondness, because his own fallibility is why we do this today.

Thank you, Dan Rather. You showed us the way.

And thank you Charles, for you led us from the darkness of the desert into the light.

183 ronnie schreiber  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:14:43pm

You don't have to attack their nuclear or oil production facilities to cripple Iran.

Iran is a net importer of gasoline and diesel fuel, not having nearly enough refining capacity to meet its domestic needs.

Bomb their few refineries, blockade shipments of gasoline and diesel. Shut off their economy.

184 Geepers  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:16:16pm

EU Referendum has a new post up:

The "Green Helmet" mystery continues

185 yehoshua  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:20:35pm

#126 goodbye natalie

Start a political party. Run for President.
You would probably win, if only because you would be the single candidate who spoke the truth.

186 Geepers  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:29:41pm

EU Referendum:

We remain convinced that knowing the identity of "Green Helmet" and something about him could help significantly in understanding what went on at Qana.

I agree.

Why does this man appear over and over and over again in news photos unidentified?

187 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:31:39pm

Well, I am not so sure that the guy in #174 is Green Helmet, but I DID find another picture of him. The 1996 headless baby version, but this one is a full face shot. Look Here right on the banner.

188 formercorpsman  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:31:41pm

biff, I did just that.

Yes, I think without a doubt, it is the same individual.

Folks, we can't let this go.

Just like ciaospirit, zombie, and the rest, we need to nail this home.

Don't let go of this one.

189 biff  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:39:18pm

188 formercorpsman

Thanks corpsman, I agree, this may be very important.

190 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:40:26pm

BTW, Abu Shadi Jradi would be a nickname of some kind. That Abu means "father of"

191 mich-again  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:52:30pm

166 goodbye natalie

I say let Israel drill Lebanon and Syria

If you want to kill a snake, cut off his head. I say go right to Iran's cash cow, their oil industry. Yes, it will be difficult dealing with higher oil prices (than we already have), but this war is about survival. And Israeli and American ingenuity will win out every time over the islamic dipshits who will end up begging for sustinence. They really, really, don't want a war of attrition with America or Israel.

192 BenZacharia  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:53:59pm

I compared the Wiki photo and 2 others (blew them up), looks like a pretty good match. Someone with that fancy facial recognition software would have to confirm,

193 extrabob  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:57:08pm

#125 Cato
May he meet a fitting end, and soon.

.45ACP... apply directly to the forehead!
.45ACP... apply directly to the forehead!
.45ACP... apply directly to the forehead!

194 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 6:57:43pm

Okay, here is something even wierder about Green Helmet. Go here -

[Link: eureferendum.blogspot.com...]

Look at the second picture down the page (so the first one on the left.) It shows Green Helmet "finding that grime covered baby in the dirt at his feet. Now look all around at where they are - some kind of cellar. NOTE: The walls and ceiling are made of cement blocks and they are intact.

How did this "crushed" dead baby come to be covered with all this dirt in the undamaged cellar?

195 BenZacharia  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 7:10:10pm

Pacifier is clean, even the nipple. Things that make you say, Hmmm.

196 Sarah D.  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 7:10:20pm

galloping granny,

Looks like a messy dirt floor to me.

197 galloping granny  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 7:20:17pm

#196 Sarah D. - Looks like a messy dirt floor to me.

Yes of course it looks like a messy dirt floor. My point is that this baby has supposedly been killed when the building collapsed. Since the walls and ceiling are still standing around the "find" how did the dead baby come to be buried in the messy dirt floor?

198 really grumpy big dog johnson  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 7:37:12pm
Since the walls and ceiling are still standing around the "find" how did the dead baby come to be buried in the messy dirt floor?


Poor housekeeping?

199 Beagle  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 7:39:18pm

#186 Geepers

Why does this man appear over and over and over again in news photos unidentified?


Remember Harvey Keitel's character in Pulp Fiction?

Thinking along similar lines but in terms of staging 'casualties' with real bodies.

200 Carridine  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 7:39:23pm

For all readers repulsed by Hizbollah's gross, callous and unlawful ghoulish display of children dead at the hands of Hizbollah, there is a scathing but short recording at Brain Surgery...

201 Carridine  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 7:43:15pm

#197- GGranny: In the original EU Referendum article, it points out that THAT picture was the last of a series of photos... ALL of them staged, ALL of them gross and in violation of the Geneva Conventions and human decency!

The Hizbollah keep people in war zones at gun-point, then blame Israel, as if the civilian deaths were anywhere but at Hizbollah's feet!

202 biff  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 7:45:52pm

I'm calling bullshit on the grey dead baby. This corpse has been dug up. There is no way it was "found" by GHG as scene in the interior photo. This body has been covered in dirt for quite a while. And (as pointed out above) why is the pacifier brilliantly blue with no sign of dirt? Something is very wrong with these pictures.

203 biff  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 7:52:26pm

On the cellar discussion:
Note that the natural light source is from the back and left of the scene. It is possible that the explosion occured outside that wall and blew debris into the room covering the bodies that were killed by the blast. Still the first photo does not seem to show a buried body, and the walls don't seem to indicate a blast. Also note that there is no light coming from the ceiling, indicating that the roof is intact.

204 DANEgerus  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 8:04:32pm

Same Ghoul, Same Helment, Same Qana...

205 Ledger1  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 8:30:24pm

#194 gal granny

NOTE: The walls and ceiling are made of cement blocks and they are intact.

How did this "crushed" dead baby come to be covered with all this dirt in the undamaged cellar?

It would be horrible to think Mr. Green Helment dug out a child from the dirty bomb site in Tyre; put the body in his vehicle and "extracted" it from the clean basement in Qana the next day in front of TV cameras.

Ledger shudders at that thought.

See: very dirty dusty bomb site in Tyre the previous day

See: relatively clean basement in Qana

206 Bill C of Brain Droppings  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 11:16:14pm

He is a future academy award winner.

[Link: bdroppings.blogspot.com...]

207 zionblog  Tue, Aug 1, 2006 5:35:18am

There is one photo of the greenhelmet comming out of the ambulance with the girl - he has only a t shirt on with a logo on it. Can anyone figure out what the logo is?


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