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Green Helmet Guy: Abdel Qader

Wed, Aug 2, 2006 at 7:59:34 am PDT

Green Helmet Guy, the “rescue worker” who posed for photo ops with children’s bodies in Qana, is interviewed by Al Jazeera in Arabic, in a video clip at YouTube: Eye witness.

From Allison Kaplan Sommer, who provides this summary via an Arabic-speaking friend:

His name is Abdel Qader. He claims that they couldn’t reach the building before 8 am because of the conditions of the road and the danger of being hit by the Israeli airforce. His voice is girly and his clothes look impeccably clean!

UPDATE at 8/2/06 8:48:14 am:

Watch in the background at around the 1:20 mark, as rescue workers carrying a stretcher pause and set it on the ground, to allow photographers to get in position and take pictures.

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1 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:02:18am

My thoughts exactly, 'girlyman'.

2 D'kian_  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:02:27am

First? I swear I don't do this often

3 BenZacharia  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:02:44am

3rd from the right?

4 Carridine  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:04:19am

Wait til you see the Dead Babies/Green Helmet post coming up at BrainSurgery...

5 Dustoff-507  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:04:21am

No, it was my brother not me. 0-:

6 TotallySirius  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:05:04am
He claims that they couldn’t reach the building before 8 am because of the conditions of the road and the danger of being hit by the Israeli airforce.

...but the antique media got there within an hour.

Hmmmmmmmm?

7 greenmamba  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:05:36am

It's Michael Jackson!

8 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:05:46am

Where's his evil twin?

9 BenZacharia  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:05:48am

Hope to be back later, meds run then Dr. Hope the get the telcom co fixed by 4pm.

BenZ from Alt location.

TTFN
BBL

10 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:06:31am

Abdel Qader?

Then who is Adu Shadi?

11 Chicken Kiev  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:06:49am

Right, but who can trust these guys to give their real names. Would you? That sounds like such a common name, or part of a name. As far as I can tell, Abdel-Qader is a surname not a full name. And I just googled "Abdel Qader" and got 53,000 hits.

We can't track this one down, I fear.

12 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:07:14am

PIMF, Abu Shadi?

13 nuke gingrich  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:07:51am

These folks are very good at staging the news.
Here's another example in Kuwait;

Kuwaiti Kids -- Death to America

14 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:09:15am

So the roads were blocked, yet all the AFP, Al-Reuters and AP "stringers" (read: terrorists with nice cameras) had quick and easy access.

Hey, that's the story and the MSM is sticking with it!

15 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:10:55am
His name is Abdel Qader. He claims that they couldn’t reach the building before 8 am because of the conditions of the road and the danger of being hit by the Israeli airforce. His voice is girly and his clothes look impeccably clean!

Hey, but that's almost exactly what "Abu Shadi" Jradi told AP's Kathy Gannon.

Jradi said he got the call to rush to Qana from Tyre. But he couldn't go immediately, with Israeli warplanes still overhead. "It was too dangerous," he said.

16 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:11:16am

Ah, but he'll always be Green Helmet Guy to me.

17 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:11:47am

Re: Gloves


He's wearing the gloves again in this video.

I did not exactly understand what EU Referendum was on about when they mentioned gloves on again off again, but it sure is an important piece of this puzzle.

18 Terp Mole  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:12:34am

Meanwhile in wacademia, St. Pancake U's commentary editor slanders Israel's Qana attack as "terrorist" "murder";

Enablers in an abusive relationship

Israel, like its surrounding nations, has acted in recent days like a brash terrorist organization with little regard for human life or compassion. For years Israel has claimed that its nation deserves the right to defend itself; however, Hezbollah too believes that it is entitled to self-defense, and so the struggle continues.

In justifying his nation's right to fight, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said that "we will not hesitate to take the most severe measures against those who are aiming thousands of rockets and missiles against innocent civilians for one purpose - to kill them." According to Olmert's own logic, Israel is now that nation against which "severe measures" ought to be taken.

By supporting Israeli attacks both fiscally and discursively - last Thursday Bush whole heartedly stated his support for Israel's military action in Lebanon - the United States has backed itself into a corner where our country must rationalize the murder of 27 children.

Naturally, the editors have no recollection of Bubbah's 1999 bombing of China's embassy in heavily civilian Belgrade.

Nor will they acknowledge, "The IDF believes that Hizbullah explosives in the building were behind the explosion that caused the collapse."

And absolutely no mention of Lebanese reports that "Hizbullah gunmen placed a rocket launcher on the roof in Qana and brought disabled children inside, in a bid to provoke a response by the Israeli Air Force."

Instead, the Daily Emerald acts as a grotesque terrorism enabler for Hezbollah's orgy of dead baby propaganda.

19 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:14:02am

Abdel Qader = Abu Shadi

Mahmoud Abbas = Abu Mazen

Same difference.

20 TalkinKamel  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:14:15am

#4 carridine

Yes, check out "Brain Surgery with Spoons", including the on-line report they link to, stating that Hizbollah shipped in handicapped kids to serve as human shields.

Mr. Green Helmet, you gotta lotta 'splainin' to do!

(Remember the mentally retarded boy the PLO tried to turn into a homicide bomber? Turns out he wasn't so dumb he was about to do that, and he surrendered to the Israelis.)

P.S. Is it just me, or does anybody else find the expression of manly and noble outrage Mr. Green Helmet assumes while waving around child corpses nauseating and infuriating?

21 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:15:02am

Green Helmet Guy: The Hezbo Forrest Gump.

22 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:15:21am

Darth Qader

23 trespasser  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:15:33am

At about the 1:35 mark on that video, there is some odd interaction between the photogs and the "rescue workers". They are carrying the "body", with two photogs in tow capturing every moment. Then the "rescue workers" suddenly set the "body" on the ground. One of them seems to redirect the cameraman as to where to stand for the next angle, takes a moment to adjust his helmet (twice), seems to strike a bit of a pose and then picks the body back up and resumes the photo opp. Then, just before the video ends, they come to a complete stop again, only seconds after having picked up the "body", as more photogs rush to them. For all the yelling and wailing, there is no urgency in those rescue workers whatsoever.

Also, when the workers with the stretcher first emerge it is from behind a building, not from the pile of rubble, where one would presume the missile supposedly dropped.

24 Plain Ol' Curt  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:16:51am

That's gotta be the most sissified voice I've ever heard in a man. Beyond metrosexual.

25 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:17:03am

Kathy Gannon's account of meeting "Abu Shadi" Jradi here.

She also wrote in her lede that

Abu Shadi Jradi pulled bodies out of wreckage for hours -- two toddler girls wearing tiny gold earrings, a small boy whose pale blue pacifier still hung from his neck. Somewhere in the middle, Jradi slumped beneath a tree and wept.

No doubt at the miracle that Allah wrought in him being able to dig for hours and not get dirty, and that the baby's pacifier was immaculate even though its body was caked with dust.

26 Terp Mole  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:17:49am

Lex-Nex search;

Agence France Presse
March 04, 1999
Israel tries to deport four Palestinian detainees: prisoners' group

Israel offered four Palestinian detainees their freedom on condition they move abroad for three years, but the prisoners refused, a Palestinian rights group said on Thursday.
-----
Three of the men, Usama Barham, who has been jailed for five years, Ayman al-Rajai who has served 36 months, and Abdel Qader Idriss, held for 21 months, are members of militant Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), Qarata told AFP.

So, he's a terrorist.

27 hepcat  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:20:58am

BUT - DID he get his payoff of the $500 photog 'Beat of the Week' reward?

28 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:21:00am
29 TalkinKamel  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:21:19am

#24 Dar ul Harb

Man, Kathy really pulls out all the stops on the hearts and flowers stuff, doesn't she! She's gonna make ya cry (and hate them (*(&&^%$ Jews!) or give herself a hernia in the attempt.

The quote about President Bush laughing when children die was an especially nice touch.

30 Roger  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:22:09am

#21 JammieWearingFool

Not.

31 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:22:21am

#26,

Who knows what his real name is at this point?

32 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:22:46am
33 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:24:56am

#23 trespasser

Yeah, that is striking.

#26 Terp Mole

Could be a different RoPer, but good idea digging through Lexis Nexis.

A sense of Rathergate is reemerging.

34 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:25:06am

What a POS.

35 saywhat?  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:25:42am

#23 trespasser

B I N G O

You wrote what I was observing too. Notice also that the photographers were everywhere but at the end of the video, rescue workers appear to be just arriving from behind the videographer of this piece.

Thank you Al Jeez for covering all the costs associated with exposing this staging .

36 hepcat  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:26:55am

32 taxfreekiller
re Fox Newsless

Ain't that the truth.

37 zulubaby  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:26:56am
Updates

6 rockets hit Nahariya area; no wounded
(17:58 , 08.02.06)

5 rockets land in Maalot
(17:53 , 08.02.06)

Air Force hits rocket launcher north of Tyre
(17:46 , 08.02.06)

Rocket salvo lands in open fields near northern border
(17:27 , 08.02.06)

Rocket barrage lands in Haifa area
(17:24 , 08.02.06)

Sirens heard in Nahariya, Haifa and surrounding areas
(17:21 , 08.02.06)

Sirens heard in Lower Galilee
(17:09 , 08.02.06)

Siren heard in Akko
(17:06 , 08.02.06)

190 rockets fell in Israel on Wednesday
(17:02 , 08.02.06)

Sirens heard in Tiberias
(16:43 , 08.02.06)

8 rockets fall in Afula; no injuries reported
(16:31 , 08.02.06)

That's just in the last two hours.

38 Joe Mama  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:27:35am

I vote for a re-name of GH guy to Castrati Guy

39 western mind  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:28:13am

It's just chilling that they get away with this stuff. As LGF showed yesterday, news agencies reward their staff for playing along. Simply despicable.

40 Terp Mole  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:29:14am

Or maybe he's this terrorist (via Nex-Lex);

Agence France Presse
December 2, 2000
Lebanon sentences two Palestinians for trying to set up armed gang

Two senior officers of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement received jail terms Saturday by the Beirut military court for attempting to set up an armed gang to carry out "terrorist acts."
-----
On April 26, Abul Aynain received a two-year sentence in absentia. Two other high-ranking Fatah officials -- Taha Abdel Qader, known as Khaled Aref, and Taysir Qaddura -- were given prison terms of nine months each by the military court for "insulting the reputation of the (Lebanese) army."

41 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:29:54am

Abdel Qader, the vulture, PhD in babies' corpses management.

Dr. Vulture.

/Main Entry:vulture
Function:noun
Etymology:Middle English, from Latin vultur
Date:14th century

1 : any of various large raptorial birds (families Accipitridae and Cathartidae) that are related to the hawks, eagles, and falcons but have weaker claws and the head usually naked and that subsist chiefly or entirely on carrion
2 : a rapacious or predatory person

42 finnman69  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:30:13am

The same guy was photgraphed in Qana in 1996 doing the exactly same thing.

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

In 2006
[Link: www.eureferendum.com...]

in 1996
[Link: www.eureferendum.com...]

43 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:30:36am

So, we know who the guy is. Now, let's ask him about how he treated those victims with proper respect and dignity. Oh wait, that didn't come up, did it?

44 Geepers  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:33:33am

Since everyone is howling about this being a war crime, shouldn't there be an outcry to get all the photographs released so that they can be used as evidence?

45 Ghost of Raihana bint Amr  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:34:43am

AP must not dismiss the doubts of their audience, a.k.a. world opinion. AP must submit all their digital photos to an audit. An independent party must be allowed to examine the metadata for time stamps, and the whole project must be filmed, documented, and put on YouTube, PajamasMedia, and distributed by the AP.

46 zulubaby  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:38:05am

A war we must win, at any price

By UZI LANDAU

WE ISRAELIS also have a dream: to live in peace and quiet on our land. We want to bring our kidnapped soldiers home and remove the threat of missiles hanging over our towns and cities.

And we have no other option but to go ahead and do it: We cannot avoid the problem, as Israeli governments have done so far.

We have no choice but to win this war, decisively and at any price. It is an absolute necessity, and the only way to do it is by preventing the enemy from making any gains, and exacting a disproportionate price from all those involved in the terror.

--

THOSE WHO do not demonstrate courage and wisdom today will tomorrow face a dark, terrifying and nonconventional regional "new order," putting the very existence of Israel - and with it, the entire West - in unprecedented peril.

This war, forced upon us, is a one-time opportunity to disrupt the plans of Iran and Syria while most of the democratic world still supports us. It is a war of no choice.

Our victory is a necessary condition for any future peace process, and for us to be able to realize our dream of peace and quiet in the face of the evil dream of an extreme, nuclearized Middle East filled with terror.

47 Pastorius  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:39:15am

Wow, that guy is a flamer. Woo woo woo. Pull ov-ah.

48 Terp Mole  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:40:10am

Or maybe it's this Lebanese journalist assassin;

'Syrian held' over Beirut bombing

Lebanon has arrested a suspect in the killing of anti-Syrian newspaper owner Gibran Tueni, judicial sources said.

Syrian-born Abdul Qadir Abdul Qadir is being questioned about phone calls made immediately before and after the bombing that killed Tueni.

49 WriterMom  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:40:23am

I have to step away from the computer. I am bawling. Using disabled and mentally retarded children as bait...it's unbearable.

I am having trouble thinking now. I am so pained by the idea of those children not knowing why they are being led to a place they don't know-and the handlers-their lack of humanity.

I have to take a walk.

The children. Ones who can't understand. I can't take it.

50 morganfrost  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:40:24am

I don't understand any Arabic, but the guy really does have sort of a "Tiny Tim" thing going on...

51 Carridine  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:43:30am

Alert: Hizbollah Ghoul Abdel Qader featured now at BrainSurgery...

Very humiliating, to the Hizbollah!

52 baier  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:44:14am

His voice sounds like a turkey gobble.
The Green Helmet Guy Turkey.

53 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:44:31am

The terrorists and their accomplices in the MSM thought the world would look at the dead children held up and be horrified.

Imagine their surprise when decent people were horrified that someone would hold up a dead baby for pictures.

54 Geepers  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:47:12am

This is the guy we need to ID.

The Qana Massacre

55 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:48:08am

#42 finnman69

Looks liek he didnt have a headless baby corpse to hand this time around -- or maybe he just learned the lesson from 1996: To achieve maximum intrainfidel outrage, use corpse with head. (othrwise the MSM wont print it)

56 so.cal.swede  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:49:52am

BAHAAHHAHAHAAH

That HAS to be someone dubbing him to protect his identity! AAAHahahahhaha

57 baier  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:50:52am

The Green Helet Turkey Vulture

Just Photoshop a hemet and a vest on that link and I challenge you to tell them apart.

58 zulubaby  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:51:38am

WriterMama, you know I'm not the internet huggy-type, but HUGE hug for you.

59 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:51:50am

I find it exceedingly odd that he claims the roads to be so impassable that they could not get to the site for 7 hours, yet there is a photo of him with a girl (she appears in many of these photos, the one from the ambulance) standing in the road - and the road is every bit as good as ours here in New England. Not a spec of damage in sight!

60 shug  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:52:00am

Does anybody else think he looks a little like Baghdad Bob?

61 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:52:52am

#53 Silhouette

Lets not kid ourselves here.

All your average Joe out there knows is that the Jews killed a wholotta babies.

LGF's daily visitors amount to about 0.03% of the population. Supremely optimistically, I don't think more than 1% of people out there know about the cover up.

62 alkmyst  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:53:30am

Has anyone checked the Abdel Qader - Al-Queda connection?

It seems just a wee buit TOO coincidental that thy both have the intials A-Q...

/ok, reaching...

63 formercorpsman  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:53:55am

It is crumbling as we speak.

64 Geepers  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:54:21am

What is with the press?

Israel Investigates Blogger Allegations of Qana Staging

The Jerusalem Post reports today that the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) is investigating arguments, first raised by bloggers, that Hamas may have staged the alleged "atrocity" that occurred when building collapsed in the Lebanese city of Qana.

As reported by NewsBusters and elsewhere, significant doubts are being raised as to whether the building's collapse was caused by Israeli bombs or was deliberately destroyed by Hamas to gin up anti-Israeli sentiment.

Mentioned prominently in the article is NewsBuster Bob Owens's blog, Confederate Yankee, which in the fine MSM tradition of accuracy, is called "Conservative Yankee" by the Post. (See Bob's response post here.)

How much of what we get is just wrong?

65 so.cal.swede  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:55:23am

can someone translate the whole interview?

66 CognitiveDissonance  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:00:34am

#50

Tip tooooooo thru the tulips bodies with meeeeeeeeeeee!

67 Middle-Earth  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:01:06am

Another video from Qana. With GHG.

Bodies don't seem to be that difficult to dig out.

A young girl, apparently a surviver, says at the end:

"Is this what Condoleezza Rice has brought us ?"

Hmm, who told he about Condo ? ? ?

The "civilian" next to he ? ?

68 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:01:07am
61 rednaxela,
LGF's daily visitors amount to about 0.03% of the population. Supremely optimistically, I don't think more than 1% of people out there know about the cover up.

Perhaps if everyone at LGF and all the 'lurkers' were to email their lists about this, it would get to a lot of people, FAST!

69 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:01:17am

Don't get too carried away with the name Abdel Qader.

After all, the Jerusalem head of al-Fatah is the delightfully named Hatem Abdel Qader.

70 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:02:51am

#59 galloping granny

I agree entirely, besides, how did all these MSM asswipes get there so quickly?


#65

splendid idea.

71 dane tomas  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:03:28am

BBC Tuesday, 27 December 2005
'Syrian held' over Beirut bombing

Syrian-born Abdul Qadir Abdul Qadir is being questioned about phone calls made immediately before and after the bombing that killed Tueni.

He reportedly rents a plot of land near the scene of the killing, which took place in east Beirut on 12 December.

Tueni was the third anti-Syrian figure to be killed since the assassination of former PM Rafik Hariri in February.

A United Nations investigation has implicated Syrian officials in Hariri's death - Damascus has denied involvement in that and the subsequent attacks.

here...

72 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:05:25am

#68 newsjunkie_ky

I'm doing my best here. Emailing links all the time.

But if you newssearch for "green helmet", or "qana helemet" or any sort of term like that all you get is the YNEWS site.

Thats it.

73 deepdiver  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:08:32am

Thie whole story reeks.

We came across a LEBANESE site which claims that hezbollah packed the building with crippled kids and then sited rocket launchers in teh hope that the IAF would bomb it and provide them with a propaganda coup.

It seems a bit far fetched, but dammit, it is a lebanese site!

Anyway, here's the link: [Link: www.gardjola.net...]

74 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:08:55am

In a world of 1.3 billion RoPers there's bound to be at least a few thousand Abdel/Abdul/Abdil (same thing) Qader/Qadir/Qadur (same thing) out there.

In order to find out more we'd need to knwo what this guy does for a day job.

Perhaps he's one the UN types -- sure looks like one.

75 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:10:31am

#73 deepdiver

Given the type of enemy we are dealing with, nothing is far fetched.

76 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:10:34am
64 Geepers 8/2/2006 08:54AM PDT

What is with the press?

Israel Investigates Blogger Allegations of Qana Staging

The Jerusalem Post reports today that the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) is investigating arguments, first raised by bloggers, that Hamas may have staged the alleged "atrocity" that occurred when building collapsed in the Lebanese city of Qana.

As reported by NewsBusters and elsewhere, significant doubts are being raised as to whether the building's collapse was caused by Israeli bombs or was deliberately destroyed by Hamas to gin up anti-Israeli sentiment.

Mentioned prominently in the article is NewsBuster Bob Owens's blog, Confederate Yankee, which in the fine MSM tradition of accuracy, is called "Conservative Yankee" by the Post. (See Bob's response post here.)

How much of what we get is just wrong?

I think that the more appropriate question is how much do THEY get right? Apparently they no longer can even read. The last time I noticed Qana is in Lebanon, home of Hizballah. I have not seen ONE blogger allege that Hamas had anything to do with this!

/they must hire them for their sheer stupidity!

77 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:13:08am

And, guess what the first two intials of A.Q. Khan, the Pakistani nuclear scientist stand for?

Khaaann!

78 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:14:23am

initials, PIMF.

79 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:17:43am

Hamas, Hizballah, Fatah, Al Qaeda, whatever.

It's the jihad, stupid!

(No offense, granny.)

80 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:21:37am

Dar al Harb

Wow, that one guy really does get around.

/intentionally misunderstanding

81 zulubaby  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:21:44am
LGF's daily visitors amount to about 0.03% of the population. Supremely optimistically, I don't think more than 1% of people out there know about the cover up.

How bloody depressing is that?

I talk to people who are smart, on the right side of the issues, informed ... and they don't know half of what I do -- not because I'm smarter, but because I don't rely on the mainstream media for all my information. I wrongly assume that everyone is accessing the same information that I am. When they look at me blankly, I realize that is not the case at all.

Does that happen to others here?

82 Terp Mole  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:24:33am
writer mom: I have to step away from the computer. I am bawling. Using disabled and mentally retarded children as bait...it's unbearable.

I'm sorry to have upset you. It is upsetting.

But we can not avert our eyes from these Lebanese reports;

Lebanese website blames Hizbullah for Qana deaths

...Hizbullah gunmen placed a rocket launcher on the roof in Qana and brought disabled children inside, in a bid to provoke a response by the Israeli Air Force. In this way, they were planning to take advantage of the death of innocents and curtail the negotiation initiative," the site stated.

The site's editors also claimed that not only did Hizbullah stage the event, but that it also chose Qana for a specific reason: "They used Qana because the village had already turned into a symbol for massacring innocent civilians, and so they set up 'Qana 2'." Notably, the incident has indeed been dubbed "The second Qana massacre" by the Arab media.

Sick, sick, sick bastards.

83 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:25:24am
81 zulubaby,
Does that happen to others here?

Yes!
But since I now email my list with info you all provide here at LGF, they've become much more aware.

84 Axiom  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:25:49am

The real story here is CAPTURING STAGED PHOTOGRAPHY ON FILM!

There are more photographers than there are rescue personnel. It's obvious that the Hizb'allah defense is not in employing rescue workers, it is managing the media.

85 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:26:10am
#72 rednaxela

But if you newssearch for "green helmet", or "qana helemet" or any sort of term like that all you get is the YNEWS site.

I got quite a few this morning from Google with just Qana - then go down the list till you find one you want and See Similar

Here some from a repeat just now -

Qana "Conspiracey Theory" from WaPO

Italy's Entry -


MIDDLE EAST: 'HIGHLY LIKELY' ISRAELIS USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN QANA

Beirut, 2 August (AKI) - The Israeli military may have used chemical weapons against civilians in last Sunday's deadly bombardment of an apartment block in the southern Lebanese city of Qana, a senior local Lebanese medic has told Adnkronos International (AKI). "From an initial examination of the corpses and body parts that have been arriving here each day, it is highly likely that the Israeli army used various kinds of chemical weapons in the attack," said Mustafa Jarradi, the department head of the main hospital in the southern port city of Tyre, which has been receiving victims from Qana.

Green Helmet? Are we taking bets?

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Tuesday that Qana massacre is an instance of crime against humanity.

This one first showed up in Google late last night -

Israeli Newspaper Reports That Army Lied About Qana:
There Were No Hezbollah Fighters or Missile Launchers in Qana

There are BTW, some number of stories that are pro-Israel. I just happened to think these were the ones we needed to look at.

86 Terp Mole  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:27:08am

It should got without saying that practioners of sharia have no regard for the mentally disabled.

87 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:28:27am

Aside from the seriousness of the situation (assuming that those are legitimate airstrike victims), I can't help but feel that I'm watching a Monty Python skit for the first minute or so.

Arab "journalists" are worse than our own TV Nooz idiots, from the sound of it. Look how eager that fcker was to get in there with the mic.

88 jjag  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:29:17am

These are the cleanest, best outfitted, "rescue workers" I've ever seen at a "disaster site".

Funny, why didn't the MSM go INTO the building? Couldn't they have found a couple of half buried victims in the rubble?

I am more and more convinced that these Muslim guys are idiots and that the only people more stupid (or corrupt as the case may be) are the "reporters" of the MSM.

89 formercorpsman  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:31:24am

If Chemical weapons is the case, then they have a real problem with trying to make that stick.

That opens up a whole new can of worms with respect to forensics.

As well, does anyone remember halabja from 1988?

Do you recall any sign of life around that town?

They are screwing up, and just giving us more reason to question the reporting.

90 zulubaby  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:32:18am

newsjunkie_ky, I do the same but sometimes I'm afraid I'll overwhelm them, and at the same time, it's not enough.

It's hard to get people to really let go of well-entrenched beliefs, even when they know that they're fraudulent.

The printed word especially, I find, has a hypnotic effect -- as though the newspapers would NEVER outright lie. Two words: Jayson Blair.

Intellectually, they know that things are not adding up, but emotionally, it's difficult to let go of sources that have been (wrongly) trusted for so long.

91 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:33:19am

#81 zb

Sadly, yes. Out of all the people I know in the flesh, I am by far the best informed on RoP issues. Be it what RoPers get upto, what the Quran tells them to do or the true root causes, i.e. projective identification, shame/honor complex etc.

Sometimes, given that on LGF I "know" lots of folks who share this knowledge, I catch myself thinking that people get it. Sadly most people dont.

92 formercorpsman  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:33:28am

As well, do you all remember what the person around the streets on 911 looked like?

This is getting some traction.

Video chronology, compilation anyone?

93 American Soldier  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:35:11am

Way back in the day, while a paramedic on Chicago Fire, I smashed an ABC minicam when the crew got in my way during an MVA extrication. I smile whenever I think of the moment.

WTF is the 'girly-man' doing giving an interview in the middle of an alleged disaster? It doesn't happen in the world I live in. If this mope were on my crew, I'd cap him just to get rid of the dead weight.

94 RaiderDan  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:35:12am

#23 Trespasser. You nailed it. Even if it is a body recovery and not a rescue (which might indicate the less-than-hurried approach of the ``rescue workers''), the behaviour of the lead stretcher bearer/medic at 1:40 where he seems to be waiting for a cue to advance solemnly towards the Al-Jizzera camera is so obvious.

The funny part is that our green helmet guy is pointing in the general direction of where the stretcher conveniently turns round the corner just in view of the Al-Jizzera camera.

``Yes, I saw body after body taken from the rubble,'' Green Helmet man says to the Al-Jizz reporter. ``Why, here comes one of them now!''

(CUE THE STRETCHERBEARERS!)

Wonder how many times they repeated this scene for Western journalists?

But what do I know? I'm not an MSM journalist....

95 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:36:52am

#81 zb

Sadest of all, most of my Israeli in-the-flesh friends aren't much better in getting it, especially the "academics".

96 The Monster  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:36:58am

25 Dar ul Harb

No doubt at the miracle that Allah wrought in him being able to dig for hours and not get dirty, and that the baby's pacifier was immaculate even though its body was caked with dust.

Indeed, is this not proof of the Greatness of Allah? A gang of Joooz managed to keep their lamps lit for a week, and they make a holiday out of it. Is this not truly a greater miracle?


/Islamic 'scholar'

97 RaiderDan  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:37:19am

And yes, I am going to vote ``CUE THE STRETCHERBEARERS!'' for LGF rotating title....

98 American Soldier  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:38:49am

#97 RaiderDan
I like it....

99 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:41:02am

#85, galloping granny


"From an initial examination of the corpses and body parts that have been arriving here each day, it is highly likely that the Israeli army used various kinds of chemical weapons in the attack," said Mustafa Jarradi, the department head of the main hospital in the southern port city of Tyre, which has been receiving victims from Qana.

Green Helmet? Are we taking bets?

Abu Shadi Mustapha Jradi Abdel Qader?

Or maybe Abdel Qader Jradi Mustapha Abu Shadi?

100 The Monster  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:41:18am

The more I think about the situation, the more I think the site should be commemorated by building a new religious shrine - the Mosque of the Immaculate Blue Binky

101 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:41:20am

#94 RaiderDan

Suppose that's what IMDB would call a goof.

102 American Soldier  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:41:40am

#97 RaiderDan
Alternate:
"Who ya gonna call? Green Helmet Guy!"

103 JAT  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:41:46am

Green Helmet guy is an actor - Bogart of the desert!

104 zulubaby  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:41:48am

rednaxela,

Sometimes, given that on LGF I "know" lots of folks who share this knowledge, I catch myself thinking that people get it. Sadly most people dont.

Totally. On LGF we can safely assume that most, if not all, get it. The "community" here is huge, so we think that translates into our "real" worlds. Unfortunately, that is not usually the case.

105 BenZacharia  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:42:24am

RaiderDan

that would offend Reza

106 Max DarkSide  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:42:45am

As I mentioned on an earlier thread, on Fox's OReilly Factor night before last, during a news break I think, I saw a clip of 2 guys carrying another guy on a stretcher, put him down in front of the cameras and when the cameramen trotted away, but Fox's camera was still on him, the "injured" guy got up off the stretcher.

I turned to my wife and said "What the hell, did you see that!". "Ya!"

Maybe someone can get that clip up on YouTube too? It's sooo OBVIOUSLY staged.

107 zulubaby  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:50:56am

rednaxela, oh yes, the "intellectuals". Don't get me started.

108 funkyfantom  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:56:57am

#81 zulubaby

I sent a link I found on LGF yesterday to a friend of mine who writes for Time, Forbes, abc news and other mainstream media.

It showed the official Pali. Authority newspaper's cartoon of Condi Rice, the "black-skinned woman" pregnant with a monkey.

The guy was very shocked and ashamed that the mainstream media didn't cover this.

109 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:58:36am

For good news, for the past few years whenever friends have discussed current events, I have had to add 50% and 95% of the pertinent facts of any situation, left out of a typical MSM report.

But the other day when discussing the Israeli-Hezb'allah conflict, facts were going round and round the table and I didn't need to add a thing.

Everyone knew everything, down to the number of rockets Hizb'allah had fired into Israel by that day, the use of ambulances to transport terrorists, the soldiers killed during the invasion/kidnapping, the use of UN compounds, the firing of rockets from civilian areas and then driving off, etc.

These are not blog people.

110 zulubaby  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 7:59:40am

funkyfantom, and this guy is involved in media? Will he write about it?

111 Geepers  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:00:13am

zulubaby (#81),

and they don't know half of what I do -- not because I'm smarter, but because I don't rely on the mainstream media for all my information.

The very fact that you understand not to rely on the MSM disproves that.

Fact checking your ass. ;-)

112 Buck  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:00:23am

#106 Max DarkSide

I didn't see that, but YOU should email O'Reilly about it... he would LOVE to know about it.

Just don't bloviate...

113 zulubaby  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:05:57am

Geepers,

Fact checking your ass. ;-)

Oh yeah? ;-)

LOL.

114 WriterMom  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:11:51am

#113 zulubaby

Fact checking OUT your ass. I think is what is meant...

115 cba  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:13:22am

I wonder if he's any relative of the Kadrs, Canada's First Family of Terrorism.

116 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:14:44am

#106 Max DarkSide

O'Reilly is a sophist asswipe -- and not very good at it either.

But even he's bound to get lucky once in a while, just like the broken clock.

So yes, I would love to see that video on YouTube.

117 sms111  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:19:50am

81 zulubaby

LGF's daily visitors amount to about 0.03% of the population. Supremely optimistically, I don't think more than 1% of people out there know about the cover up.

How bloody depressing is that?

I talk to people who are smart, on the right side of the issues, informed ... and they don't know half of what I do -- not because I'm smarter, but because I don't rely on the mainstream media for all my information. I wrongly assume that everyone is accessing the same information that I am. When they look at me blankly, I realize that is not the case at all.

Does that happen to others here?

Yes.

I suggest each LGFer print 1,000 pieces of paper with the URL of LGF and other useful blogs and a brief intro and over a few weeks distribute them - at train stations, stores, airports etc.

118 sms111  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:22:55am

Can someone photoshop up a quartet of fools -

Mr. Green Hat, Baghdad Bob, Dan Rather and Jimmuh Car-ter, for example? I'd do it but lack the skills and software.

119 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:28:06am
#112 Buck I didn't see that, but YOU should email O'Reilly about it... he would LOVE to know about it.

I'm not so sure about that one Buck. Used to think so. But when the Green Helmet story was really coming together I emailed O'Reilly and a couple of other folks at Foxnews together with Ynet - sent links and some of the pictures. Ynet ran it almost immediately.

Bet you haven't heard a word about this on Fox, have you?

/A Saudi billionaire now owns more than 5% of Foxnews stock. He has been reported to have headlines changed. HMMM

120 rednaxela  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:31:28am

#117 sms111

Well, one visit by Charles with the Prager show seems to have added an extra average of 10,000 or so visitors.

(Charles does not seem to revel in the limelight and I for one respect that immensely -- most successful bloggers have immersed themselves in vaingloriousness.)

121 rayra[deleted]  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:37:51am
122 rayra[deleted]  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:40:40am
123 zulubaby  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:43:22am

WriterMama, LOL! He's not usually the shy and retiring type but he seems to have disappeared ...

sms111, I'm talking about the people in my life, not just randoms.

124 rayra[deleted]  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:48:43am
125 moonsbreath  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 8:56:39am

"Green Helmet Man" should be renamed to "Mr. Clean." I'm amazed at how clean all these rescue workers are, even the orange men too.

126 groinpullerredux  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 9:00:35am

green helmet should be told he needs a film director(mel gibson will be free to freelance soon!).....the glaring oddities are destroying any verisimilitude....the stretcher bearers adjusting their helmets(we should have done this in the green room, but how do i look abdul?)...the prop department providing spanking new fluorescent vests...in fact every aid worker is dressed pretty spiffily.....and the choice of location is contrived as it gives a panorama of long middle and short distance for maximum visual effect....and central casting's rolodex seems stuck on 40 year old's with moustaches...

sorry green helmet....your opus reeks.

127 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 10:05:53am
128 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 11:23:07am

Looking at this video again, doesn't it seem like Green Helmet and the Al Jazeera cameraman who's videotaping his interview are a little too synchronized?

When Green Helmet snaps his head around to look at the stretcherbearers, the cameraman is right there with the zoom.

The Al Jazeera reporter glances down at the stretcherbearers first, and then Green Helmet snaps his head around about a second later, and the cameraman is ready with the zoom almost instantly.

I'd really like to have a translation of that part of the interview...

I wonder, does it go something like this:

Al Jaz: Abdel Qader, thank you for your time. I realize you've been extremely busy with all these bodies. *nudge, nudge* Here comes one NOW!

Abdel Qader (turns quickly): Yes, curse the Jews, look at that!

(camera zooms in at ludicrous speed)

/must I?

129 twalsh  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 3:19:57pm

It looks to me like they put down the stretcher to wait for "green helmet" to get there. They pick the stretcher back up right when "green helmet" gets down there to help direct the action. I believe he is the "choreographer" and this is his Broadway production(he sure speaks like a choreographer).

130 Ledger1  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 3:53:18pm

#28 Dar ul Harb, that was a nice set of links. It looks like Green Helmet Guy, be he a mortician or a Hezie operative, has the ability to manage the press.

In fact, he has the ability to provide as many “Dead Children” props as the MSM can photograph. We still have to find out who he is and who he works for.

As for his statement that only 3% of the bodies were men – that would indicate Israel has a secret new explosive that only kills women and children (which is preposterous). It’s most likely of case of using handicapped children for human shields and then recycling the bodies in other locations to gin up the body count.

#26 Terp Mole, it’s always possible that Green Helmet Guy was in Israeli custody at some point.

If that is the case I would guess that Israeli authorities have mug shots of the guy. If the Israelis do have mug shots of this guy they should quickly reveal them.

#121 rayra:

'Fadi Abdel Qader Al Sakka' listed as giving a 'plaintiff testimony' re the first Qana event. I wonder if it's the same guy...

Good question.

There must be a lawyer who knows the face of Green Helmet Guy and Fadi Abdel Qader Al Sakka and can make a positive ID (or not).


#84 Axiom:

...There are more photographers than there are rescue personnel. It's obvious that the Hizb'allah defense is not in employing rescue workers, it is managing the media.

I agree.

Further, I would guess that 2 dozen MSM stringers/reporters know exactly who Green Helmet Guy is, who he works for, and how the charade was pulled off.

I bet a little money and long conversation with one of those stringers/reporters and they would spill the beans on Green Helmet Guy and his dead baby act.

Or better yet, it would be nice to pull one of those MSM stringers/reporters off the set and get a deposition from them (using some legal pretext). There must be a way of getting the information from the people who seem to be so close to Green Helment Guy.

131 tipper  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 5:18:53pm

Is it me, or does green helmet strike a remarkable resemblance with the green helmet of 1996, fourth pic down? (Warning, graphic images)

132 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 5:28:52pm

#131,

No, it's not just you.

133 BigZ  Wed, Aug 2, 2006 6:23:57pm

#60 shug


Does anybody else think he looks a little like Baghdad Bob?


I was thinking the same thing, but figured that it was so OBVIOUS that surely someone else could see the resemblence in the first 130 or so quotes!


BAGHDAD BOB RIDES AGAIN!


This guy is one sick puppy!

134 Maria  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 12:38:36am

My gay friend said..."He is a Drama Queen!"

135 Maria  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 12:44:06am

I am surprised he didn't "snap" his fingers. I told my gay friend about how "Green Helmet" was acting and he checked it out and said

"He is a DRAMA QUEEN...and a sister". I thought that Hezbos didn't like Gay people. Maybe they can't tell the diff.

136 Maria  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 12:51:12am

I heard on the news that Qana was were the morgue was located at.

Some of those bodies look like they have rigor mortus.

Some of them don't look crushed.

Then some of the others didn't have concrete dust in their hair.

It is possible that they moved some dead bodies from their morgue to the site for better impact.

137 Nancy  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 12:48:52pm

Abdel Qader appears to be a common name in Palestine and Lebanon.

All the others have some "other" name with it.

138 SunCat  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 4:12:25pm
Watch in the background at around the 1:20 mark, as rescue workers carrying a stretcher pause and set it on the ground, to allow photographers to get in position and take pictures.


This is not the way first responders act. More like 'GET OUT OF MY WAY, SIR!'


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