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Hizballah's Media Relations Department

Thu, Aug 3, 2006 at 8:43:58 pm PDT

Are you curious to know what Hizballah’s Media Relations Department has to say about the Lebanon crisis, and their role in Western media’s coverage of the Qana bombing?

Now you can call them and ask, thanks to a reader who forwarded scans of their business cards:

UPDATE at 8/3/06 8:51:28 pm:

This is not a joke.

UPDATE at 8/4/06 9:01:17 am:

To make it easier for Hizballah to receive offers of fine personal enhancement products, home loans, and prescription drugs, here is the email address above in clickable form: mediarelations123@yahoo.com.

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1 LSD  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:44:43pm

Thanks!

2 extrabob  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:44:48pm

Which one of these guys is Green Helmet Ghoul?

3 Bob's Kid  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:46:23pm

I'm guessing I can figure it out without the phone call...they haven't exactly made a secret of it.

Funny, though, trying to look all official and legit.

4 Fresh Air  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:47:07pm

Love the logo!

5 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:47:24pm

Is that a joke? Please tell me that's a joke.

6 DesertSage  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:48:15pm

Dear Mohamad Afif,

Why do your so called 'fighters' hide behind women and children? Isn't that kind of whimpy?

I am awaiting your reponse,

DesertSage

7 BignJames  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:48:30pm

Who paid for the cards? Ahmadingdong?

8 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:48:49pm

mediarelations123@yahoo.com? Hmmm... I smell a hoax.

Charles, what's the source for these?

If it's real, then I think they need more pr0n spam, penny stock leads, Nigerian financial opportunities, etc.

9 crazytraveler  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:49:21pm

Only 12 cents/minute to a landline and 25 cents/minute to a mobile phone on Skype. It might be worth doing a "wuzzup."

10 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:49:59pm

What is that image? A rifle and a globe? and what the hell is that black blob underneath it....a burnt body? We all know how they love burnt dead bodies.

11 Charles  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:50:30pm

They are real, and the source is highly reputable but does not wish to be identified.

12 fluffy  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:51:24pm

#4 FreshAir

Love the logo!

On the bottom right it looks like a hand wrapped around a guitar neck.

Wahhabstock: Three days of the Religion of Pieces music.

13 mich-again  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:51:37pm

I e-mailed them posing as a Nigerian Prince who needs a bank account number to depost Gazillions of Dollars into. hehehehe.

14 Beagle  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:52:19pm

Hizballah threatens journalists at the first meeting. Hizballah keeps their passports and watches all their reporting. It's a done deal. Journalists report what Hizballah wants or they're denied The Holy Access, or much worse.

15 dead sea squirrel  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:52:22pm
#6 DesertSage

Dear Mohamad Afif,

Why do your so called 'fighters' hide behind women and children? Isn't that kind of whimpy?

I am awaiting your reponse,

DesertSage

Dear Mr. Sage,
You have noticed, I suppose, that our favorite color is yellow?

Sincerely,
M. Afif

16 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:53:04pm

12 fluffy-

I'm not seeing the hand/guitar thing.

17 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:53:56pm

#13 mich-again

I e-mailed them posing as a Nigerian Prince

That's good, but sending it from Suha Arafat would have been really funny.

18 paul in Va  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:54:36pm

Ya, cool logo. I guess the weapon signifies their "militant" wing as, you know, opposed to their "social services/political" wing.

19 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:55:26pm

We should all send them an email posing as Don Rumsfeld.

20 LSD  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:55:29pm

OT: Jasser Smacks around CAIR Hack

Comment from: Bushra4693
07/31/06 @ 13:51
Perhaps Jasser needs to get his facts right, because Haq denounced Islam last year and converted to Christianity. Therefore, his own statement of describing himself as a Muslim American is inaccurate and unfounded.

As for the suggestion that we, as Muslims in America should stop condemning attacks and 'dismantle [hateful] ideology', how does he propose that this occur?

With the self-hating speech that Jasser loves to spew every now and again? I, for one would love to hear him criticize US foreign policy in the Muslim world.

Comment from: M. Zuhdi Jasser
Chairman, American Islamic Forum for Democracy

I’m guessing here, but it seems that our Arizona Republic PluggedIn blog, has become the space for some local Muslim leaders to hide behind veiled identities and dish out ad hominem attacks to their critics without the courage to sign their full name or their organization’s name. The comment above from “Bushra4693” uses the same name as Bushra Khan, which is the same name as that of the Office Manager of the local Arizona chapter of Council on American Islamic Relations (www.cairaz.org). I may be off base on this association, but it certainly is an interesting coincidence.

“Bushra4693” (CAIR’s anonymous proxy) responded to my piece on the “Islamofascist Rage in Seattle” above avoiding entirely the main issues I presented while making ad hominem attacks.

First, the veiled identity is very interesting and revealing since I did weigh in on the fact that activist Muslim organizations are in complete denial when it comes to the toxicity of Islamism as an ideology in individuals like Mr. Haq and organizations like Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbullah.

Second, it appears that “Bushra4693” (CAIR's anonmyous proxy) either missed the entire point of my column or deceptively diverts her response away from it in order to demonize me. Her claim that I “need to get my facts right” because Haq converted to Christianity also conveniently misses the point. All sane people have already quickly established that Mr. Haq is a lunatic who reached his breaking point. The credibility of the information Mr. Haq gives or others may offer regarding his stated faith is of little value due to his instability and his psychopathology. For all we know in his last decompensating days his faith changed on a daily basis. For most of his life he was a Muslim and in possibly an "Islamist" environment.

The point here is our responsibility as Muslims. If not in denial, it should be easy to understand that Mr. Haq’s ill mind was fertilized through his life by an intoxicating ideology. What finally weakened his inhibitions was his illness. What apparently drove him at the end and fed his propensity toward radical ideas was the Islamist ideology. The question we as Muslims should be asking is--how does this differ from the process which creates suicide bombers? One could argue that radical Islamists may listen to an inflammatory radical imam spew political hatred against “America, the Jews, and the West” almost every Friday to one day finally ‘randomly’ commit an act of violence against the community. Does the imam’s ideology or that distributed in community literature not bear any responsibility for the hate crime. Do not the purveyors of this ideology have an ability to reform it in an effort to prevent terrorism?

Until we recognize that the Islamist vitriol coming out of “Muslim” sermons, literature, websites, and discussions can often serve as the fuel for the internal combustion of the next ‘surprising decompensation” of an unknown regular in our midst, we will never help the cause of defeating terror on our soil...more

21 BignJames  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:55:44pm

#17 Who Watches the Watchmen? 8/3/2006 08:53PM PDT

Sending it as Yassir would've been funnier.

22 Ban Draoi  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:57:50pm

My older brother retired from the phone company after 35 years employment.

Maybe I need to show this to him and see what kind of fun and games can be played with these mooks. He is retired but I have a strong feeling that he still has his "connections" and that some of them are rather interesting.

23 Thriggle  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:57:55pm

How did the source get a hold of the cards? I'm just wondering where the Hezbollah media relations department gives out business cards printed entirely in English...

(But if that's sensitive for some reason I can grudgingly respect that.)

24 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:58:36pm
25 groinpullerredux  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:58:37pm

hmmmm...all the trappings of 'legitimacy'....business cards...telephones...video cameras... television...very 'tres moderne' indeed...so very very UNmediaeval...can't imagine why they still rely on beheading with a sword...one would think a laser or something would be rather more apropos their evident sophistication...

anyway i'm trying as we speak to reach them via their telephone number to ask them their opinion of what might be the best textual criticism of the Koran extant....just to start a dialogue as it were....communication leading to understanding and so on and so forth.....

26 fluffy  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:59:01pm

#16 Stuck-in-CA

Caffeine imbalance.

27 Doug  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:59:28pm

Dear Mr. Afif:

In case you are need of an experienced, well-seasoned propagandist, er, journalist, I would very much appreciate the opporunity to show you my stuff.

Please take a close look at my enclosed resume, you will see that I have worked very diligently to promote your cause in the home the the Great Satan.

Sincerely,

Dan Rather

Courage Alahu Ackbar

28 ORD neighbor  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:59:36pm

MSM contacters for jihad, eh?

29 Mike C.  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 6:59:54pm

The 'black blob' at the bottom of the log says 'Hiz b'Allah' in Arabic.

30 mkultra  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:00:36pm

It's not really funny. The biggest battle of the war so far is media realtions. Just ask Muslim Cleric/Television Producer Hassan Nasrallah He will tell you all about a disproportionate response

The whole European and Arab press is a freakin Pallywood production for the Anti-Semitic Masses. The guys that these business cards belong to are no more than a modern day Leni Riefenstahl. The focus on Jew hatred is the way dictators distract the masses away from internal problems. The reason you don't have electricity is because of the Jews the reason you don't have clean water is because of the Jews the reason you are poor is because of the Jews.

It's like the general said today in congress. They hate even each other more than they love their children.

31 john jay  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:00:58pm

So, if their phones are ringing off the hook night and day with prank phone calls, then they can't be taking calls from journalists asking when the next photoshoot is.

Right?

32 imploder  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:01:20pm

One must note that the Hizbollah logo includes a globe.

/Is this thing on?

33 Doug  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:01:39pm

Does anyone suppose the

Issa & Sawli Bldg.

is still standing?

IDF, are you taking notes?

34 InklingBooks  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:01:56pm

Someone good at graphics should clone these two into a entire set of cards that'd include a "Minister of Hate," a director for the "Bureau for Killing Jewish Children" and the like. For those in the know, it'd shouldn't be hard attaching specific people's names to each title.

And why stop at that? Create a set of cards with the names and contact info for various news service reporters and photographers (AP, AFP, Reuters etc). They're practically an arm of Hizbollah anyway. Then sell the cards in sets like they sold the playing cards for Saddam's thugs.

35 dennisw  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:01:59pm

Green Helmet Ghoul the mortician with the rolling refrigerated truck full of corpses [Link: web.israelinsider.com...]

36 jcobble  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:02:34pm

E mail address at the bottom.
Sent the Director the following

Subject line
"Would you blow yourself up?

Body
Or do you just send your brainwashed children?

37 republic  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:02:42pm

#11 Charles,

Never before, in the entire history of man, has there been a way to get factual, accurate information, like LGF does!

This is simply beyond outstanding, and I am proud to be an American, and I am proud that I have the privelage of being a LGF Lizard.

I can leave nearly ALL of the msm behind, with my lone exception of various segments of FOX News, newspapers, and the various communist TV networks, which I haven't watched in years, and I can get more than 100 times the information, accurate, based in real facts, with pinpoint accuracy, in the near blink of an eye, without ever again, having to try and sort through the lies, spin, distortions, and deception which has ruled the leftist msm for over 30 years.

This truly is the "New media", and Charles, here is my biggest Lizard KUDOS that I can muster with my computer keys.

Thank you Charles and LGF, you are the best!

38 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:03:40pm

29- mike c

The 'black blob' at the bottom of the log says 'Hiz b'Allah' in Arabic.

thanks. But I didn't mean the arabic writing, I meant that big black blob under the rifle. Is it supposed to be a mount?

39 J.D.  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:03:44pm

A Yahoo e-mail address!
Just like normal people!

40 Bob's Kid  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:05:03pm
That's good, but sending it from Suha Arafat would have been really funny.

You got that one too?!

41 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:05:49pm
They are real, and the source is highly reputable but does not wish to be identified.

Umm... Judith Miller?

42 jcobble  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:05:55pm

Let the spam begin.

43 Doug  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:06:18pm

Hello, you have reached the office of Hezbollah Media Relations...

I'm unvaialable to take your call right now, but if you are from the MSM, please simply report the number of dead on your 6 O'Clock news, give a location, blame the IDF and we will make sure that the bodies will arrive just before your cameras are ready to roll.

Thanks you dhimmi--er--very nice people, and have a nice day

44 vapig  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:06:31pm

Really, REALLY tired of it all! Just want to slam them so hard and make them HOOWWWLLLLLLL! And yes, beg I mean REALLY beg for mercy!

45 thriggle  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:06:44pm

They should put a smiley face on the globe.

Oh, wait, how iconoclast are they? Someone might mistake it for Mo.

46 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:07:43pm

Dear Mohamad,

All your rockets are belong to us.

LGF

47 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:07:47pm

Nasrallah says they'll fight 'to the last man, the last bullet '.

Sounds like a plan to me....Last Bullet, coming up. Last man piece of terrorist scum next.

48 BignJames  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:08:00pm
49 imploder  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:08:03pm

How do you get a Hezbollah Terror executive's card? At a cocktail party?

"Yeah, those freakin' Israelis, I can't believe the killed like 400 children in Qana..."

Guy approaches, "Here, have my card, give me a call sometime, we'll have hummus..."

50 aaron's rantblog  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:08:09pm

And their PR department is working overtime.

Second time this week I've been hacked.

What do they have against the Mohamsters?

51 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:08:19pm

I just sent them one with one word in large letters.... "incoming"!

52 biff  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:09:01pm

I'm guessing that the Issa and Sawli Building is no more (see business cards).

53 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:09:21pm

Dying to send them wav of the woman saying ' Your Tiyyyyme is Uup.

54 imploder  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:10:19pm

I'm sending a note to mediarelations122 and mediarelations124 just in case they try and tune the frequency...

55 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:12:51pm
56 DesertSage  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:12:56pm

Don't tease the terrorists!

/you'll just create more of them!

57 jbinnout  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:13:30pm

Thursday morning during the interview of the ambassador to the UN from Isreal, Fox Dayside had a split screen. The very well spoken ambassador on the left and rescue workers on the right. At one point, two workers were carrying a man up a narrow street, stepping over rocks and chunks of concrete. The man was on his back on the litter, torn shirt,arm over his face. They proceeded up the street to stop by a wall, where they set the litter down, and left the man there. After just a few moments, the man on the litter raised up to a sitting position, looked over at the camera, stood up and walked away. The camera immediately shut off. I looked at my friend, who was watching with me, and we just cracked up.

Maybe someone else saw it, too?

I emailed Fox Dayside and asked them to find it and run it over and over, like the rest of their tired over-used clips.

58 Mike C.  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:13:41pm

# 38 Stuck-in-CA

Beats me. Image isn't good enough to tell.

59 Catawba  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:15:45pm
UPDATE at 8/3/06 8:51:28 pm:

This is not a joke.


I'm sure NSA would agree.

60 J.D.  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:16:37pm

#48 BignJames

...Between now and November, conservative leaders will dutifully try to rally the troops to stave off a Democratic victory. But their hearts won't be in the fight. The decline of conservatism leaves a vacuum in American politics. An unhappy electorate is waiting to see who will fill it.


He's delusional.

61 gymnast  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:16:56pm

The numbers on these cards present an unlimited potential to consume these Hizbutt media reps time in unprofitable ways. Now, if we only had the home numbers, we could inform the wives about these boys indescretions while away from home, and the horrible STD test results that the partners should know about in order to prevent various body parts from rotting off while there is still hope to arrest the spread of the dread diseases passed on to the spouses.

62 The Fountainhead  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:17:16pm

[RING, RING]

"Media relations, you've got Naboulsi."

... ...

"Yes, Mr. Gibson, a pleasure to hear from you. What can we do for you today?"

... ...

"I see. Well, we don't usually take on outside clients--especially Hollywood infidels--but in your case I think we can make an exception."

... ...

"That shouldn't be a problem. We'll have a press release out in the morning and a TV spot on Al Manar by the weekend. Just to confirm, was that 'Stinking Jews' or "Rotten stinking Jews'?"

63 republic  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:19:29pm

#59 Catawba

I'm sure NSA would agree.

Do you not think that they are beyond overwhelmed by now?

64 imploder  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:20:46pm

It's unfortunate the Mel will go down as a hater for the rest of his life.

I'm poor, Mel Gibson could by my house 10,000 times over, that is how rich he is.

Still, I can go to sleep at night knowing I don't hate like he does.

He got drunk and his true colors showed through, he's an ugly man. That's too bad.

65 republic  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:21:31pm

#62 The Fountainhead

"That shouldn't be a problem. We'll have a press release out in the morning and a TV spot on Al Manar by the weekend. Just to confirm, was that 'Stinking Jews' or "Rotten stinking Jews'?"

I'm sure they'll also want some of Hillary Clinton's finest,

"FU@KING Jew bastard"

and many of her other anti-semetic remarks, which are well documented!

66 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:21:40pm
67 RTLM  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:21:44pm

It's 8:23 or so in the morning there - I'd love to see the looks on their bloated faces


right now.

68 hepcat  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:22:10pm

Better try the cell phone, I don't think the office phone is working.


Busy Beirut enclave reduced to oblivion

Ten days ago, Sheik Ragheb Harb Street was a bustling commercial drag, a noisy and lively place where women came to shop and men sat in packed coffee houses smoking water pipes. Now, all of that is gone; the street has been reduced to rubble by days of Israeli air strikes.

One of the apartment buildings that used to line the street is gone, its 10 floors collapsed into the still smoldering basement. Another building on the opposite side has been split in half; some apartments are destroyed, others have lost only their outer wall, exposing what was once private space for all to see.

69 Max DarkSide  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:22:34pm

#57 jbinnout

Ya, I saw it 3 nights ago during a news break while watching The O'Reilly Factor

70 imploder  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:23:44pm

#63 Republic

Do you not think that they are beyond overwhelmed by now?

They've got big machines and they are pretty good at what they do, even though they are a bloated bureaucracy.

I worked with them for a long time.

71 Midwest  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:24:03pm

#62 The Fountainhead

(Ring, Ring)

"Media relations, you've got Naboulsi."

... ...

"Yes, Mr. Kos, a pleasure to hear from you. What can we do for you today?"

... ...

"I see. Well, we don't usually hire outside consultants--especially bloggers--but in your case I think we can make an exception."

... ...

"Just one point. You and your minions are a little over the top for us. Can you tone it down a little, we're trying to be a class act?"

Thanks for the inspiration Fountainhead.

72 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:24:40pm

#62 The Fountainhead

Nice one.

73 republic  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:24:45pm

#60 J.D.

He's delusional.

That, and the left is fully consumed with an insane hatred, with no way to stop it!

Not even the destruction of the USA would satisfy their ever growing hatred.

74 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:25:28pm
75 Catawba  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:26:28pm

#63 republic

On the translation front perhaps, but not on the gathering, storage, and computer-assisted analysis of the raw data.

76 imploder  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:26:29pm
Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Ball

Or the yellow verb ball (people with kids that watch the Disney channel will know the odious yellow verb ball).

77 republic  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:27:16pm

#70 imploder

They've got big machines and they are pretty good at what they do, even though they are a bloated bureaucracy.

I worked with them for a long time.

There has never been this much insanity to try and sort out, in the history of this country, and world, ever, combined, imo.

78 imploder  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:27:31pm
On the translation front perhaps, but not on the gathering, storage, and computer-assisted analysis of the raw data.

They can focus resources.

79 RedDirtGuy  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:27:42pm

We need to get this to the NSA. They have no idea who to talk to in jihadland. Perhaps they could use these numbers?

Oh damn! I forgot. They need a court order!

Just when we get a breakthrough. Hell, I might as well call them myself.

"Hello Haret. How's the wife and kids?"

80 zombie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:28:21pm
#50 aaron's rantblog
And their PR department is working overtime.

Second time this week I've been hacked.

I don't understand how they could be hacking you. They try to hack me constantly, but get nowhere. What am I doing right, and/or what are you doing wrong? Could it be that my ultra-primitive "html style" (i.e. no style at all) actually works to my advantage because there is nothing to "exploit"?

As I mentioned in an earlier comment, I got a threat this morning from I believe a hacker crew in Turkey announcing that they were going to take down zombietime in "10 minutes." Well, it's been over 10 hours, and still nothing. Here's my post again with the relevant section highlighted:

--------------

Boy, it's been quite a day at zombietime; Muslims are attacking me on four different fronts simultaneously! This cyber-jihad is getting hot and heavy.

First off, got several more death threats today and yesterday from fans of the Mohammed Image Archive. Here are a couple samples:

From: "sam saeed"
Subject: you are Anti-Christ

After looking at your all the 'art' you collected, I don't even like to think about you bastards as humans.
You never see any disrespect of any prophet by Muslims.
Why you pagan bastards don't understand the respect of a monotheist Prophet?

Yours mothers are whores and your fathers are pimps. How can you understand what reality is? You guys can fuck even your own sisters and mothers.
You are irrelevant and we all are waiting for the time of your complete destruction and annihilation along with your mentor the Satan.

You don't deserve any attention or notice.
Wait for your painful end, which will come soon.

And then there's this one:

From: "Karwan"
Subject: May allah throw you in the hell fire.

You are the enemy of islam. Your abode would be fire.

Inshah-allah.

Next up, some Muslim group -- possibly the filmmakers themselves -- complained about my review of Valley of the Wolves Iraq to my hosting company, which forced me to go to a lot of work and remove all the videos I had embedded in the review. There really is no basis to claim that a 30-second low-quality clip used as an integral part of a film review counts as "piracy," but my hosting company didn't want any troubles and the videos had to go. I had to remove them. So, strike a minor victory for the forces of dhimmification.

Next up, some of the Palestinian protesters depicted in my reports have discovered the YouTube videos of themselves, and they starting to post jihadist comments on the videos. See here, for an example:

palestineac
Even Jews admit that Israel is a sin. Point is...morally as Jews you know damn well what Israel is doing in Palestine and Lebanon isn't right. All of you will have to answer to G-d.

And lastly, Got some threatening emails from a Turking hacker this morning, threatening to take down my site in ten minutes. Needless to say, it hasn't happened yet. I'm hoping it's just bragadoccio:

SIZYAPTIGINIZI SANIYORSUNUZ COK BUYUK GUNAH ISLIYORSUNUZ ALLAH BELANIZI
VERSIN(TURKISH)
TANRININ ELCISI HAKKINDA BOYLE KOTU SEYLERI YAYINLADIGINIZ ICIN COK BUYUK
ACI CEKECEKSINIZ
(TURKISH)
---------------------

Subject: 10 MINUTE

10 DAKIKA ICINDE O RESIMLERI KALDIRDINIZ KALDIRDINIZ YOKSA 10 DAKIKA SONRA SITENIZ HACK LENECEK (TURKISH)

10MIN I WILL HACK THIS WEBSITE...

If you want to have fun with this bozo, his IP address is 85.104.5.98.

I feel as if I am at war.

81 imploder  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:29:18pm
There has never been this much insanity to try and sort out, in the history of this country, and world, ever, combined, imo.

As an enterprise, the organization can be suprisingly agile. They have some big brains that do the work because they love it. We pay lots of money for the agency, but they try hard to do a good job, and they usually do.

82 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:33:08pm
83 republic  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:34:12pm

#81 imploder

As an enterprise, the organization can be suprisingly agile. They have some big brains that do the work because they love it. We pay lots of money for the agency, but they try hard to do a good job, and they usually do.

I have always figured they are the best in the world, ever, it's just that I have never witnessed a crazier time in this life, in this country, and in this world.

My thoughts and prayers are with them all, and, also, thank you for your service to our country, and for protecting our country!

84 gymnast  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:37:10pm

#82, rayra. As I recall, Vitellus had better luck as a general than as an emperor, of course 69 AD was kind of a wholesale year for Roman emperors since there were 4 that year.

85 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:37:12pm
86 Intestinal Fortitude  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:38:17pm

80 zombie

I feel as if I am at war.



You are. Charles is. We as citizens should be.

Airborne/Air Assault to you.

87 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:38:51pm
88 biff  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:39:46pm

In same building (Sawli Bldg):


Al Baraka Bank Lebanon
Al Dahiya Al Janoubiya Branch (Southern Beirut)
Harat Hreik - Ahmad Kassir Str - Sawli Bldg - GF

The Bank's Board members:
BOARD MEMBERS:

Sheikh Saleh Abdullah Kamel - Chairman
Mr. Hassan Salem Al Ammari - Board Member
Mr. Joe Khoury El Helo - Board Member
Mr. Adnan Youssef - Board Member
Mr. Othman Ahmad Sulmeiman - Board Member
Mr. Mohamad Hussein Yassin - Board Member
Mr. Fouad Nadim Matraji - Board Member
Mr. Hisham Chaar - Board Member
Mr. Hachem Bou Abboud - Board Member
Mr. Riad Abed Al Latif Itani - Board Memeber

And, of course, the Sharia Committee:
OUR SHARIA’A COMMITTEE

All of the bank’s business and activities are subject tocontrol and supervision by the Sharia’a Committee of AlBaraka Bank sal composed of reverend virtuous specializedwith the financilal formalities namely:
His Eminence Sheikh Dr Abdel Sattar Abou Ghadda
- Secretary of the committee
His Eminence Sheikh Khalil Al Mays
- Deputy Secretary
His Eminence Sheikh Hassan Awad - Member
CV
His Eminence Sheikh Abdellatif Derian - Member CV
His Eminence Sheikh Dr. Ousama Al-Rifai - Member
Sheikh Bilal Al Moulla - Shariaa Inernal Controler

89 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:40:57pm

Gymnast

As I recall, Vitellus had better luck as a general than as an emperor, of course 69 AD was kind of a wholesale year for Roman emperors since there were 4 that year.

Waitaminit...

Are you Victor Hanson?

90 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:41:55pm
91 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:43:40pm

End of the third, Team USA is leading Puerto Rico by 35 - and saluting one another on each dunk.

92 Don  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:43:54pm

I have a small penis and erection problems.

I need to refinance my home.

I love poker, especially Texas-Holdem.

I need investment advice.

I am lonely and would like to meet someone.

I would like to get a degree online.

I want to get out of debt.

I would like to order some prescription drugs.

I want to work from home.

Please contact me:
mediarelations123@yahoo.com

93 gymnast  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:45:33pm

#89, Noam sayin'. Not even close, hell, I havn't even slept in a Holiday Inn Express, ever. Did read a bit of Tacitus though.

94 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:47:23pm

#80 Zombie & Aaron,

They try to hack me constantly, but get nowhere.

Let them keep attempting the hacking. Sooner or later, you'll close the holes. And always remember, when they mean to hack, you're really getting under their skin.

Take it as the highest form of flattery.

95 slotgun  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:47:37pm

Reminds me of Elizabeth Hurley, as Satan in "Bedazzled," producing a business card as proof that she was, indeed, the Evil One, and all it had on it was:

THE DEVIL

What a couple of a$$clowns.

96 republic  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:48:12pm

Good night all Lizards.

Take care.

98 Kirly  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:51:25pm

#57 jbinnout

Maybe someone else saw it, too?

I saw that! I had the sound off but I saw that and couldn't figure out why that guy just got up like nothing had happened to him. I guess that would be because nothing did happen to him!

99 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:54:45pm

I sent them the following:

The State of Israel is in crisis now and needs your support more than ever before.

The enclosed petition will be sent to the leaders of the G8 countries and to the heads of the United Nations asking them to remain steadfast in their united support for Israel to defend itself against these unprovoked actions of the abduction of its soldiers within.

Petition:

To the Honorable and Respected Presidents /Prime Ministers of the United States, Russia, Japan, Germany, Britain, France, Italy, Canada and the United Nations.

We applaud your recent joint statement concerning the new conflict in Lebanon at the G8 summit held in S. Petersburg, Russia. While there may still be differences in your individual opinions on the matter, your message demanding an immediate return of the abducted soldiers, a cessation of missile attacks against Israel as immediate steps to stop the widening violence, and your understanding of Israel's right to defend itself while using utmost restraint, is greatly appreciated.

In times such as now, it is imperative to remain objective and see the larger picture. The State of Israel has made tremendous sacrifice and concessions over the past several years, even risking a civil war over its disengagement from Gaza. In the six years since it has exited from Lebanon, the terrorist Hezbollah organization has been allowed to build up an arsenal of more than 12,000 rockets aimed at the destruction of Israel, while also building a very intricate and sophisticated battlefront of underground bunkers and tunnels, as we are witnessing in recent days. Rockets have been fired, terrorist have infiltrated our borders, soldiers have been killed, and Israel has until now, turned its cheek and withheld from any harsh response.

~snip


Oh and you guys should read and sign the petition, it you haven't already

100 Buckaroo  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:56:09pm

# 91 N S

Well, as nice as that is, and nothing against PR, when do they get to play a contender?

101 Kirly  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:57:24pm
You guys can fuck even your own sisters and mothers.

ha! that's rich coming from someone who's family tree is nothing but a single trunk!

102 biff  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:57:44pm

It looks like their not paying rent at that address anymore:

There were indeed Hezbollah targets. The Party of God's political and media relations office used to stand on Sheik Ragheb Harb Street. It was a nerve centre, a place where Hezbollah members met with foreign journalists and likely where some of the group's decisions were made.

But along with hitting that building, and several others in the neighbourhood that were also targeted, the Israeli air force obliterated an entire community.

103 J.D.  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 7:58:07pm

#96 republic
Good night and sleep well.
:D

104 aunursa  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:00:08pm

#95 slotgun

I have to believe that was a nod to the movie "Oh, God!" in which John Denver asks for proof and receives God's business card, which just says, "God".

105 Buckaroo  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:03:00pm

So has anyone rang them up? Gotten a response?


/I'd do it from home, but it's kinda like getting on cair's mailing list; why hand the enemy intel?

106 groinpullerredux  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:03:34pm

love reading the cvs of these various and sundry professors doctors sheiks in the arab academe....every one a product of insular inward looking autophagic discourse it seems.
most amusing...anyone have the grand ayatollah khomeini's cv ?
what was he?...oggsford ? trinidy ?...megga ?

107 Drogheda  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:07:56pm

Has anyone sent these fellows the cartoons yet?

Be a shame if they went into a fit of apoplexy when checking their email and their heads exploded.

108 Carridine  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:08:22pm

Well, this is a GREAT PLACE and TIME to remind us all of the "Global Islamic Media Person" they were advertising for a short while back!

Karridine

109 Globular Cluster  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:09:23pm

ROFLMAO! ! 1 1 1

So who has the stones to call them? Has anyone done it?

110 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:10:15pm

Bwak bwak

I'm too chicken to call.

111 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:10:33pm

#105 Buckaroo

Create a throw down email account at yahoo or hotmail and use it for such correspondence.
Use a good firewall, keep your antivirus and spyware apps up to date.

112 imploder  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:10:39pm

The more I learn about Muslims, the more I like my dog.

Funny, the arab culture does not like canines like we do. Maybe that is a message in itself.

Culture hostile to canines, or those that eat horses and donkeys, but won't eat a pig. Hmmmm. My natural inkling is to reject it.

113 zombie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:10:41pm
#107 Drogheda

This would be the appropriate link to send them, I believe. That page alone causes 20-25 head-explosion deaths per hour in the Muslim world.

114 Globular Cluster  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:12:29pm

I would call, I'm just a wee bit concerned that the FBI/NSA would want to know why the fuck I'm calling Hizballah, even if it is to tell the huzzies to fuck off.

115 Right Side  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:13:11pm

I'd love to see Hezbollah's PowerPoint templates too.

116 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:13:22pm

What's their 401K like? Do they have a good health insurance plan? Stock options, bonuses?

117 imploder  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:13:35pm
I would call, I'm just a wee bit concerned that the FBI/NSA would want to know why the fuck I'm calling Hizballah, even if it is to tell the huzzies to fuck off.

Naw, they've got the hate mail filtered out.

118 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:14:06pm

114 Globular Cluster

Doh! That's right...

119 ronnie schreiber  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:14:58pm

Some great research by Reuven Koret at Israel Insider on another member of the Hezb-allah PR team, Mr. Green Helmet, Abu Shadi Jradi

The AP wire story begins: "Abu Shadi Jradi pulled bodies out of wreckage for hours - two toddler girls wearing tiny gold earrings, a small boy whose pale blue pacifier still hung from his neck [sic]. Somewhere in the middle, Jradi slumped beneath a tree and wept." Since we have a picture of this man pulling the small boy out, it is quite clear that Mr. Jradi is the "Man with the Green Helmet."

...the veteran civil defense worker said Sunday, barely able to get out the words.'"

...Certainly the man called Abu Shadi Jradi is a veteran. In April 1996, after a misguided Israeli airstrike which really did kill scores of civilians, he appears in a similar pose [Extremely graphic image], holding up a child's bloodied headless body for the press to photograph. But is he a civil defense worker?

...Later in the AP report we learn about the circumstances by which Jradi said he was summoned to the scene. "Jradi said he got the call to rush to Qana from Tyre. But he couldn't go immediately, with Israeli warplanes still overhead. 'It was too dangerous,' he said."

Abu Shadi, it turns out, has a very distinctive form of transportation.

...Mark MacKinnon of The Globe and Mail reported from nearby Tyre, Lebanon on July 26, describing the many difficulties caused by the rising death toll in that city. "Abu Shadi, the mortician at the government hospital in the city, agrees. He's processed 100 bodies -- many of them grotesquely mangled and burned -- and on his pickup runs has been forced to leave behind many more that he can't recover from cars and destroyed buildings.

"It's much more [than the official count]," he says. "There are many trapped under the rubble. The death toll will reach 1,000."

"Mr. Shadi was standing in front of a refrigeration truck that was packed with 20 bodies, days after he helped bury 74 bodies in a mass grave. When he opened the door to show the black body bags haphazardly piled on top of each other, a staggering stench came out, despite the refrigeration. Next to the truck stood 40 empty wooden caskets, waiting for new arrivals."

Based on these descriptions, it seems highly likely that Abu Shadi the mortician and Abu Shadi the green-helmeted "civil defense worker" are one and the same. And, in the double role, Abu Shadi was among the first to arrive, before the media did, with his refrigerated truck that in recent days had been carrying around corpses.

"The refrigerated truck that bodies are stored in had just emptied the day before with a mass burial. It is already filling up again, with the bodies of children. "

We have pictures of Abu Shadi Jradi standing by the refrigerator truck, corpse in hand, and then, in different dress, posing with the same corpse in a different location.

120 Buckaroo  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:18:37pm

# 111 B

I actually do have a "disposable" E-mail, and that's an idea -- but I more wanted to call them up, clog up their lines, run up their minutes, and cuss them out -- w/o allowing them to #69 me ...

121 Globular Cluster  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:19:23pm

Also:

I am wondering:

A) if the guys listed on the cards are still alive and
B) if their building -- the "Issa & Sawli" building -- has been leveled by the IAF. If not, why not?

122 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:20:01pm

Hey maybe these guys know the folks from AQ's PR team?

I would just love to arrange a speaking engagement at the gun range for OBL and Nasrallah.

123 imploder  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:20:22pm
w/o allowing them to #69 me ...

The number they have to worry about is not 69, it is 500. As in 500 pounder.

124 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:21:30pm

Hmm, well the Email I sent'em hasn't bounced yet, must have got through. Wonder if I'll get a reply?

125 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:22:14pm

It would be too fun to send an email from the IDF...

126 rnoy  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:22:23pm

Nifty.

127 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:22:36pm

Yalla Ya Nasrallah

128 Buckaroo  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:26:14pm

# 127 Am

We could send them that YouTube link ...
:-)

/even better, a yahoo account has like 1Gb storage, right? So you send them some note with some huge, say, Office file with 10Mb of gibberish, every minute for a couple hours, and viola ...
:-)

129 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:26:16pm

There is a Hizbollah.Org

130 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:26:25pm

#120 Buckaroo

Pay phone (if you can find one) and prepaid calling card should work.

131 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:27:24pm

Here's another one:

[Link: almashriq.hiof.no...]

132 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:27:48pm

92 Don,

I think you're looking for the other LGF.

133 pat  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:28:41pm

The reason Mohamed the Mad did not like dogs is that they cannot have sex with humans. Hence his adoration of goats and sheep.

134 z9z99  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:28:45pm

Some thoughts:

1.) A headline you aren’t likely to see: Hezb’allah Fails to Protect South Beirut From IAF.

2.) When the BTK killer was taunting the Wichita police and threatening to kill more victims, I wonder if there were progressive thinkers demanding that the investigation cease so negotiations could begin.

3.) So drawing an image of Muhammed is blasphemous, but forming an organization that fires rockets blindly at civilian targets and calling it “The Party of God” is O.K.?

4.) I heard a radio talk show host ask a caller “How many innocent children are you willing to accept to defeat Hezb’allah? Give me a number.” The question of course is idiotic, and fundamentally immoral, since it assumes a mathematical relationship between human life and just causes. No such relationship exists. If ten are too many, there can be no justification for nine. If you cannot justify killing as many as are necessary, you cannot justify killing one. We must not be fooled into thinking that because something is tragic it is therefore unjust, or because it is unfair it is therefore immoral. Killing any human being is inherently unjust; that is why killing must be justified by appeal to some higher principles.

5.) Another headline you’re not likely to see: “Hezb’allah Watches Helplessly as IAF Jets Pound South Beirut with Impunity.”

135 Buckaroo  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:28:46pm

# 130 B

There's one at the local shopping plaza ...

/That almost sounds like work tho ...
:-)

136 Wumpus Hunter  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:29:53pm

Comming in late, but good link on a film on Palywood.

137 gonzo  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:30:06pm

#20 LSD

Perusing your link to the CAIR Az site led to this gem.

Their link to their success stories.

Bwahahahaha!

138 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:31:20pm

Hizbollah is part of the "official" Lebanon government:

Ministers:
Fawzi Salloukh Foreign Affairs Independent (Hezbollah-endorsed)
Mohamad Fneich Energy and Water Hezbollah [7]
Trad Hamadé Labour Hezbollah

139 Buckaroo  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:32:27pm

# 131 Am

"Statement of Purpose"


That's some pretty heavy-duty taqqiyya there ...
:-(

140 R2D2  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:34:24pm

What if I punch in one of those phone numbers?

Hmmm...on second thought, what whould I say?
The only phrase in arab I know is: "Jibba lawiya" (your ID please)
He he, what else reservist should know?

141 Beagle  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:34:44pm
“How many innocent children are you willing to accept to defeat Hezb’allah? Give me a number.”


How many are there south of the Litani River?

Sometimes life is a Darwinian test. It's always a pop quiz and nobody knows the right answers in advance. But if you ignore leaflets dropping from the sky and the people dropping them have air supremacy, you flunk. The border to north of the Litani is a decent, but not taxing, bike ride.

Tell me about the wonders of martyrdom again. I never tire of hearing that one.

142 Buckaroo  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:35:06pm

# 137 g

Sheesh, for allegdedly smart taqiyadopes you'd think they'd at least post one token item there ...
:-)

143 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:36:52pm

128 Buck

Perhaps their headquarters is undergoing some major renovation courtesy of the IDF?

144 Buckaroo  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:37:05pm

# 140 R

They savvy english just fine ...


[esp. "goat" and marital relations" I reckon]
:-)

145 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:41:00pm

Check this out, from the Hizbollah website:

In the early days, Hizbullah gained much notoriety through the kidnappings of several westerners by one of its fringe groups. But what caused most political consternation were the quite spectacular actions against various foreign occupants by its predecessors. The bombing of the barracks of the US Marines and French headquarters in 1983 killed 300 soldiers of the Multinational Force that by then had lost its semblance of neutrality of intervention in the punishing Israeli siege and occupation of West Beirut. That humiliation led the US to lose its nerve in trying to police the conflict which no longer was restricted to an Israeli - Palestinian matter, with force. The subsequent bombing of the "Israeli Defence Forces" headquarters in Tyre with 75 soldiers lost took its toll on Israeli resolve and led to it's retreat to the present occupation zone in the south.

[Link: almashriq.hiof.no...]

146 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:42:57pm

Sorry if posted before.
A great description of a personal encounter with Hizballah.

147 R2D2  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:44:55pm

#144 Buckaroo

(144 is a good number, BTW. You can extract square root out of it ;-) )

No, on third thought I think Jibba lawiya is just fine. Imagine mister Afif takes phone with his gentle manicured hand, bring it to his ear, and at this moment some crazy israeli barks: Jibba Lawiya, mofo!

BWAHAHAHA

148 biff  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:46:02pm

#121 Globular Cluster

I am wondering:
A) if the guys listed on the cards are still alive and
B) if their building -- the "Issa & Sawli" building -- has been leveled by the IAF. If not, why not?

See #102

149 Carridine  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:47:37pm

Fountainhead: Here's one:

-ring!-

Hey! Jack Stokes, Media Director for Associated Press, whatcha got?

…some kids hit by Israeli bombs? Go on…

…okay, hold it! You aren’t that “Abdel Qader” ghoul-yoho are you?

Okay, then I have some questions for you:

1/ are the children injured? You know, heads crushed, bodies mutilated, limbs missing? No, not all of them, of course but- What? They are NOW?

uhh, well, then question 2..

/ are the kids recently refrigerated? “Not so’s you’d notice…” Look, Pal,-PALI!- sharp-eyed goddam blogs notice EVERYTHING suspicious, we gotta cover our butts, y’know? Oh, yeah? You’ll take them OUT of the reefer van and place them where we need them?

Uhh, well, look Pali, there’s some danger there, ‘cuz staging these things is getting very risky, y’know? We got people dropping their subscriptions even NOW, cause they can get better, more accurate and more timely factual reporting in the blogosphere… the blogo- screw it!

Look, we’re not innerested, okay? Don’t call us, we’ll call-

What? You can have the dead teen girl wearing a T-shirt with the AP logo?

Well, why din’tchoo SAY so? Sure, its worth plenty of money!

Now, here’s whatcha do

150 extrabob  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:48:45pm

#64 imploder
"It's unfortunate the Mel will go down as a hater for the rest of his life.
Still, I can go to sleep at night knowing I don't hate like he does.
He got drunk and his true colors showed through, he's an ugly man. That's too bad."

Come on, don't judge him too quickly. I have to admit to being a heavy alcoholic too, probably worse than Gibson. I have been so drunk I have said ugly things that I didn't remember, and don't otherwise believe. I'm sure I said them to hurt somebody's feelings. Maybe that's what he was saying. And he was making a TV movie about the holocaust. Do you think he was going to say the Jews killed 6 million Nazis? I doubt it. And besides, Nixon said ugly things about Jews in private, yet saved Israel in 1973. Harry Truman regularly used the "N-word" yet he forced the integration of our armed forces. Just saying you can't judge a person's entire character by offhand comments when drunk. And despite what MSM talking heads keep repeating, alcohol isn't truth serum, or we wouldn't have to resort to torture, waterboarding, etc. Just force feed 'em a pitcher of margaritas. I'm inclined to forgive him and hope he gets the help he needs to overcome his addiction.

151 justacanuck  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:49:21pm

Funny!

Say... Michael Totten was in contact with Hussein Naboulsi last year...

Michael J. Totten: Guess Who’s Coming to Iftar
[Link: www.laweekly.com...]

As always with Michael's work, it's a good informative read. And very revealing.

Now I wonder just where those business cards might have come from. Hmmmm.

152 pat  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:49:33pm

#145 Amalie

Well, now we have a 'fringe' religious group called 'Jews' kicking the shit out of these weirods and they are begging for mercy. But I think they think that all is OK and the UN will save their racist moronic asses again. I hope Condi, the monkey mom, according to these racist animals , has the flu for the next year or so.

153 Live4Truth  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:49:37pm

Yahoo E-mail addresses? How American of them. And how amateurish.

154 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:49:55pm

Miguel @ 146

From your link:

Suddenly a muezzin screamed in Arabic over the loud speakers. It was a thunderous call to prayer, and it was real screaming. I have heard the call to prayer hundreds of times in Beirut, but I never heard anything like this. It was electrifying and dramatic and it gave me a thrilling shot of adrenaline.

Ominous military music threatened to blow out the speakers. Then the sound system switched, briefly, to music from Star Wars. It switched, briefly again, to the soundtrack from The Terminator. Someone, perhaps the same muezzin, screamed anti-Israeli incitement over the music. You didn’t have to be fluent in Arabic to figure out what that was about.

/Hi Miguel@

155 aaron's rantblog  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:49:59pm

#85

THe only other way a hacker hits your hosted site so routinely is if your hosting service doesn't do anything to clean up their security holes after each attack.

HM says they're moving me to another server. They used to blame my blogging software. This time, all I had was plain HTML and images and secure permissions.

Earlier this week HM told me that they were bumping up trying to find out where 170MB I should have on my account went. No news. No space.

I get a lot of evasive answers and very little response to my direct questions.

Have they proven that their shared hosting is configured correctly? Nope.

They seem to like to blame software they provide. If they have no confidence in the security of their stuff, they should remove it until they get a security expert.

156 Max DarkSide  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:50:45pm

Sorta OT, but not really...

The difference between us and Hezbollah is that when we kill innocent people we consider it a failure, when they kill innocent people they consider it a success.

Prime Minister Olmert

in the Times of London interview, kindly brought to our attention by PowerLine

157 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:50:48pm

#141 Beagle


Sometimes life is a Darwinian test. It's always a pop quiz and nobody knows the right answers in advance. But if you ignore leaflets dropping from the sky and the people dropping them have air supremacy, you flunk.

LOL

Thanks, sometimes the blunt truth hits my funny bone and spontaneous laughter occurs.

158 Carridine  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:51:21pm

#62- Fountainhead & Friends: #149 is just ONE script hammering the Hizb'ollah and their supporters... at Brain Surgery With Spoons!

Karridine

159 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:54:46pm

Hollywood is screwing mel gibson over again, I hope he did not say that racist sick bullshit, but come on people, do ya really think hollywood isnt anti Jew? They suck big time!

160 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:54:50pm

#146 MigueldowninMexico


I just read the article. I don't know whether to laugh, cry or pound my head on my keyboard.

161 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:56:18pm

Amalie
Hello there!
You should see the moonbats around Mexico protesting capitalism while many of them wear t-shirts with slogans in English, many of them commercial, or sportive, etc. It's very funny LOL.

162 pat  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:56:29pm

#150 extrabob

I have a theory, and it is only that. I believe that this drunken fool was repeating the meme of the night. When I went to school in CA, I was astonished at the open dislike of 'Jews'. I didn't get it, and still don't. I went to schools that had 20% Jewish kids. It was weird.

163 Beagle  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:56:31pm

#157 Bordm

LOL


Ahhhhh... The frisson of "LOL" never gets old. I'm a simple dog.

But seriously, who thought letting the neighbors store thousands of artillery rockets wasn't going to end badly? I'd be moving hundreds of miles.

164 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:56:38pm

159 raidergirl

Mel has just learned that you live by the sword and so shall you die by the sword.

The cops got it all on tape.

Mel admitted he said it.

165 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:57:27pm

Mandy
The three of them ;)

166 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:57:35pm

161 Miguel

Hahahahha... I know what you are referring to. Imbeciles!

167 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:59:41pm

157 Bordm

Thanks, sometimes the blunt truth hits my funny bone and spontaneous laughter occurs.

But what about the Inconvenient Truth?

/doing my Al Gore impression

168 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 8:59:58pm

#164 Amalie, Good, if he said it, then the hell with him, but if you dont see the hypocrisy of them throwing him under the bus, Geez!

169 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:01:24pm

raidergirl

I don't care about Mel, he's a big boy, a very rich boy, he can handle his own problems..

170 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:02:07pm

Fuck Hollywood, they are the scum of the earth! Hows thaT?

171 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:02:49pm

Amalie
Yes, they are very stupid. Right now they have Mexico City under siege since Monday, and that's costing them millions of enemies per day. They are killing themselves! Amazing. And this, in the only territory where the lefty party has some real strenth (I mean, had), apart of maybe five States out of 31.
They also took the airport in Acapulco, Acapulco being one of the few important cities that the left controls at the level of mayor.
Go figure.
ROFL

172 extrabob  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:02:51pm

I think it is the biggest irony of all time that the director of "The Passion of the Christ" is being crucified.

173 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:03:01pm

Raidergirl

I've got friends working in Hollywood...

174 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:05:09pm

171 Miguel

I imagine the sympathy factor is not playing too well for them down there...

LOL ~

Just like our LLL here, they seem to have been beamed down from another planet...

175 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:08:00pm

#173 Amalie, I am a terrible person, forgive me!

176 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:08:05pm

Amalie
Women come from Venus, men come from Mars, and moonbats come from Bizarre World.

Esa chamaca toma mucho, no vale la pena discutir con ella. Platicar un poco sí, pero no discutir porque no habla ella, sino lo que toma ;)lol

177 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:09:01pm

But what about Madonna and her Cruxificion tour?

In an e-mail to The Associated Press on Thursday, the singer's New York-based spokeswoman, Liz Rosenberg, said: "Madonna does not think Jesus would be mad at her, as his teaching of loving thy neighbor and tolerance is Madonna's message as well. The context of Madonna's performance on the crucifix is not negative nor disrespectful toward the church

178 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:09:05pm

Miguel, speak in English mi amigo!

179 Beagle  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:09:19pm

MigueldowninMexico

Welcome to Florida. Here's a plastic flamingo.

180 biff  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:09:25pm

Hussein Naboulsi is Political Officer and Director of Foreign Media Relations of the Hezbollah Party in Lebanon.
Interview
Interview2

181 Beagle  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:11:15pm

#172 extrabob

being crucified

Please, don't be Madonna about this little Hollywood dust up. Mel's richer than Midas. He'll get by somehow.

182 extrabob  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:11:37pm

Right on Raidergirl, Hollywood is the scum of the earth, the new Babylon. I work in the movie business, and you're right, money is their religion, anything else they say is just so much BS. And let me tell you, it ain't easy for a conservative Bush-voter to work with these moonbats.

183 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:12:53pm

Ok raidergirl ;)

Amalie
Madonna is nuts. From a Catholic view point, the one he supposedly belonged to, she's commiting grave sin when mocking the things of God.

As for Gibson. I think TPOTC is the best movie in the history of movies. Just that.
But Gibson showed an impardonable side of his inner self that makes him quite repelling for me.
Sorry, don't want to flame anything.

184 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:13:19pm

176 Miguel

And some come from Uranus..

185 jbinnout  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:13:47pm

Here is an annoying thought...

IAF new actual footage of smart bombs with this voice over....

Jihadigone, applied directly to the dashboard!
Jihadigone, applied directly to the dashboard!
Jihadigone, applied directly to the dashboard!

186 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:14:51pm

Hey extrabob, you will not win or influence folks on this late thread by talking to me, should probably just move along! I am the fucking enemy! See, the f word is what they live by!

187 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:14:53pm

AMALIE!
ROFL! LOL!

188 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:16:22pm

183 Miguel

Madonna is/was shrewd. She knew how to market her ... talents.. but this time the "cool" crowd have found her little "Cross" act to be one big "yawn."

She is now officially, "over the hill" headed for Cherville.

189 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:16:36pm

studying to be a proctologist? LOL

190 extrabob  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:16:47pm

#181 Beagle
I agree, Mel will be OK, because like I posted above, Hollywood is ONLY about making tons of money, no matter how socially superior they pretend to be. And since Mel Gibson movies make a ton of money, he'll bounce back after he has his little time-out.

191 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:17:27pm

Amalie
He's becoming a classic LOL

As in Classic Rock...

192 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:17:33pm

#185 jbinnout 8/3/2006 11:13PM PDT

Here is an annoying thought...

IAF new actual footage of smart bombs with this voice over....

Jihadigone, applied directly to the dashboard!
Jihadigone, applied directly to the dashboard!
Jihadigone, applied directly to the dashboard!

LOL LOL...

/very annoying and yet funny too

193 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:17:46pm

oops, I meant "she"

194 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:18:19pm

#185 jb,

Thanks for that, you have me laughing out loud, literally, which is a Good Thing because I have been really worried the past few hours about what is happening over there.

How could so many civilians be hit by those damn ketuyshas today? It's horrible. I hope IDF decimates every last Hez in Beirut.

Got to be the most annoying commercial in history. They must want people to boycott their products.

195 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:18:41pm

Beagle
Many agree it's just a trial trip.
See how everybody reacts...

196 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:18:44pm

Extrabob

Yeah, a "time out". That's a good way to put it...

197 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:20:44pm

Miguel

Perhaps Mad Mel can go to Confession, (after rehab) and get his Penance.

1000 Our Father's
5000 Hail Mary's
500 Rosarys

198 jbinnout  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:21:06pm

So many car swarms....so little time.

199 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:21:38pm

Hey Miguel, I will talk to you only, because you hate me! Lets see you flame me now! PS, the challenge is my sweet bro is in the hell fucking hole!

200 extrabob  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:22:40pm

#186 Raidergirl
I'm not concerned with making friends on LGF, only seeking info about the war on Islam (or their war on us, to be more accurate) that I can't get from the MSM, and occasionally chiming in with my own two cents. But I'm glad to see that you "get it."

201 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:24:06pm

(Someone creative...pls do something with
' nasrallah gone ').

202 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:25:09pm

raidergirl
I love you! :*

Amalie
He can't go to Confession just like that. If he has a frame of mind that keeps him in sin, first, he has to change that frame and then, go to Confession with the firm intention of fighting back that particular sin.

203 Carridine  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:25:59pm

I 'met' Mel Gibson on-location in northern Thailand, and got a real taste of "When Two Worlds Collide"...

My part in the movie (Air America) is only 'walking scenery' so I amused myself sketching the REAL BIG STARS... between takes.

I have autographed pencil-portraits of Art LaFleur, Ned Eisenberg and others who were there, BUT...

when I got within 2 meters of MISTER Gibson, -Zzzzip!- there was a paid flak, in my face, between us, and I couldn't even ASK him to sign my caricatures...

No character deductions, just the observation that when you have $850,000,000 and full-time people standing by as bodyguards and food-feeders and wardrobe and your day is all, "Yessir, Mr Gibson, RIGHT AWAY SIR!"...

I believe it dynamically TWISTS your perceptual set!

204 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:27:01pm

Miguel, waiting! Hey, call the amalie/bubblegirl, bring it on! Oh, see, they will call me drunk, and i do admit that! I am as drunk as a skunk, my bro is in the war, say you have someone in the war Miguel or Amalie! OOps, I meant bubblegirl! Good On Ya!

205 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:27:16pm

Hey, extrabob, what's with the nic? Is it something like "my brother Daryl and my other brother Daryl"?

206 PDM  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:28:18pm

#197 Amalie,

Perhaps Mad Mel can go to Confession, (after rehab) and get his Penance.

1000 Our Father's
5000 Hail Mary's
500 Rosarys

Or maybe he'll just have 50 Bloody Marys and call it a week.

207 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:29:40pm

#206 PDM

Or maybe he'll just have 50 Bloody Marys and call it a week

Dang, that sounds good.

208 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:30:06pm

raidergirl
I'll refer to my #202
God bless your brother.

209 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:30:11pm

One or two, that is, not 50.

210 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:30:39pm

#163 Beagle

But seriously, who thought letting the neighbors store thousands of artillery rockets wasn't going to end badly? I'd be moving hundreds of miles.

///Wonderful folks those Hezbollah guys are, covering up those unsightly ammo dumps with those nice looking schools and hospitals. Nothing brings down the property values in a neighborhood like an unsightly ammo dump in a neighborhood.///

No sh*t, I get overrun by a bunch murdering psychopaths, that use my neighborhood for an ammo dump, I’m bailing with all the arms and ammo I can carry. :)

I mean, they can't plead that they didn't know that the "infrastructure" Hezbollah built was just cover for war material storage areas

211 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:30:55pm

206 PDM

The PR guys said it was equivalent to dropping a nitrogen bomb on his career.

But what truly matters, in my opinion, is he needs to address why he was out of control and why he said those vile things against the Jews.

212 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:33:57pm

#185 jbinnout

Here is an annoying thought...

IAF new actual footage of smart bombs with this voice over....

Jihadigone, applied directly to the dashboard!
Jihadigone, applied directly to the dashboard!
Jihadigone, applied directly to the dashboard!

AAARRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Now I have a new ditty to plague my fevered mind.

BTW, what IS that commercial about?

213 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:35:04pm

Mandy Manners

Headaches! The product is supposed to get rid of the headache you get from watching their commercials..

214 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:35:08pm

Hey Miguel, I dont need your prayers, My prayer is sincere! Ya win, called in the swampwomen did ya?!

215 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:35:21pm

#211 Amalie

The PR guys said it was equivalent to dropping a nitrogen bomb on his career.

Well, if I had $850 million, I wouldn't exactly be worried about my career.

/Cuz there just ain't that many shoes in the world.

216 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:36:44pm

215 Swampwoman

Ahhh, what's 850 million? He could be broke by next week!

217 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:37:15pm

#213 Amalie
LOL!

218 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:37:46pm

#213,

Well you gotta give them props for increasing their target audience: if you didn't have a headache before..........

219 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:37:52pm

#210 Bordm

No sh*t, I get overrun by a bunch murdering psychopaths, that use my neighborhood for an ammo dump, I’m bailing with all the arms and ammo I can carry. :)

And then rat 'em out to whomever is offering the largest reward.

220 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:38:04pm

Hard On

Applied directly to the.....

/

221 pat  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:38:05pm

#211 Amalie

Ah! The Nitrogen Bomb. It will be a cold day in hell before that ignites. (Very Cold)

222 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:38:07pm

Hey swampwomen, ya are the bomb! Good the hell on you, waiting on you response why ya hate me? Umm, the other raidergirl drunknight question?

223 extrabob  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:38:44pm

#205 Swamp Woman
LOL! Actually my main job in the movie business is doing post-production visual effects, and film preservation/restoration, but between those gigs I do extra work in movies and TV shows. Hence extrabob, easier to type out than visualeffectsfilmpreservationrestorationbob.

224 Beagle  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:39:31pm

No, don't make Mel talk any more. Please, let this thing die a natural death. Some people will forgive him, some won't, and that's just the way it is. Nobody is wrong in either case.

225 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:39:37pm

Hey Pat!

226 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:40:14pm

Just popped in to greet the dead threaders, now off to sleep for me! Adios, vaya con Dios, y'all.

227 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:40:21pm
228 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:40:42pm

And they make a product for hemorrhoids too .. don't even want to go there..

229 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:40:49pm

#207 SwampWoman

Dang, that sounds good.

/GASP

You want a drink, not a milkshake?

/quick, someone hand me a shot of whiskey, my Lil' Sis has taken up booze!

;)

230 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:41:02pm

#224 Beagle
Agreed.

231 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:41:14pm

Wow, Newt for president.
Only person I've heard say ' who in the international community do you think is gonna send troops to keep peace against hezbollah when they're willing to die for their cause?'

232 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:41:53pm

#223 extrabob

D'OH! (Whacking self in forehead.) That makes sense.

233 Golden Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:42:27pm

Buenos diaz mi amigos de LGF :D

Necesito el cafe. brb

234 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:43:40pm

ExtraBob

Didn't you used to be a cop too?

235 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:43:43pm

#229 Bordm

GASP

You want a drink, not a milkshake?

/quick, someone hand me a shot of whiskey, my Lil' Sis has taken up booze!

;)

Well, I can't go in the milkshake place anymore, so I might as well take up drinking....

/Actually, thought the spicy tomato juice with the celery stick sounded good. All vitamin-y, like.

236 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:43:44pm

Swamp Woman
Hello there! :)

237 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:45:04pm

#233 Golden Jerusalem

Necesito el cafe. brb

Hey, I need a cafe, too. Preferably one that has some peach pie.

238 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:46:03pm

#236 Miguel

Hey! Come estas hoy?

239 extrabob  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:46:35pm

#232 Swamp Woman
Don't smack yourself in the head, or else you'll have to use
Head On... Apply Directly to the Forehead!
Head On... Apply Directly to the Forehead!
Head On... Apply Directly to the Forehead!

240 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:47:31pm

239 extrabob

Bad extrabob! Bad, bad Extrabob.

241 rayra[deleted]  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:47:31pm
242 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:47:32pm

Oh now, heres Rayra, Damn, ya folks need to get straight on your bullshit! Um Rayra, my bro is in the hell hole, still waiting for anyone you Love to be there! Um, I will still be here until you tell Charles to take me off LGF! Waiting! Umm, is anyone you love in the Hell Hole? PS, tell him I am a Raider Fan, and he will remove me! GO RAIDERS!

243 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:47:47pm

I was too lazy to look up how to put in that little upside question mark, so y'all will just have to imagine it's there.

Gaaaah, now I'm probably gonna be staring at the ceiling wondering just exactly how to make that lil' upside question mark and won't be able to go to sleep.

244 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:47:57pm

#219 SwampWoman

The heck with the reward, ratting them out is reward enough.

245 Golden Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:48:30pm

#233 me:

Buenos diaz

Dias, se, jeje

Quizas pensaba en Cameron Diaz?

246 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:48:41pm

Rayra @ 241

Hi Rayra.

Think about how it must have been during WWII?

247 pat  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:49:20pm

Amalie. Adios. That Nitrogen Bomb might concievably be used on hemoroids. I will have to give that some thought. (Isn't 'hemoroids' the term Hezbollah uses for it's storm troopers?)

248 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:50:06pm

#241 Rayra

Glad to hear it. If fresh news was on the tube, I'd probably sit down and fall asleep in the La-Z-Boy and not even make it to bed, then I wouldn't hear the alarm go off in time to go to work in the morning.

249 extrabob  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:50:23pm

#234 Amalie
Hi Amalie, yeah, that's me. Went from working with far-right-wing racists to far-left-wing moonbat airheads. Go figure.

250 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:50:25pm

Global Warming?
Yesterday 150 tons of hail fell over Mexico City.
Some warming indeed.

251 Golden Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:50:34pm

#237 swamp woman:

Heh. Dang. I'm out of coffee.

My damn flat mate must've drank the last and not replaced it.

Well, at least it wasn't the toilet paper.

I guess I'm drinking tea :P

252 zombie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:50:51pm
#203 Carridine
I 'met' Mel Gibson on-location in northern Thailand, and got a real taste of "When Two Worlds Collide"...

My part in the movie (Air America) is only 'walking scenery'

Interesting! I too have worked as an extra, found it to be pretty fascinating work. In one film I was in, there were two major stars, and about three or four well-known but not superstar-ish actors and actresses. I actually, due my my wit and charm, became chatty with a couple of the "lesser stars," who were pretty friendly and human to me, a lowly extra. But the superstars -- completely unapproachable, just like Mel in northern Thailand.

One day, while filming, it was announced that the female half of the two superstars was not going to be on the set that day, because we were filming scenes she wasn't in. Now, there was a special "director's chair" type chair on the set with her name printed on it, that was hers specially to sit in between takes. Since she wasn't around this particular day, I decided to test the limits of permissibility. Some time in the mid-afternoon, several of us extras were waiting around, for hours and hours, for some snafu to be resolved, and I casually drifted near the Forbidden Chair while talking with the other peons. Eventually, totally suavely, I just sat down in the chair and kept chatting with the other extras were were sitting on various other things.

Well, you can guess what happened. In about 1.6 seconds, out of nowhere comes this assistant director screaming at me, "Don't touch that chair!" I think her sole job was to protect the Chair, even when the star was nowhere in the vicinity. I acted dumb, like, "Oh, is this some kind of special chair?" and got away unpunished.

But it just goes to show what these stars' lives are like. You can't even get near their stuff, much less them personally.

253 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:51:51pm

Extrabob, I think I'll just get a big ol' chunk of ice and apply it directly to the forehead, if it's all the same to you.

254 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:52:23pm

#241 rayra

What you said.

Me too. Anyone from Israel around?

255 PDM  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:53:07pm

SwampWoman,

Dang, that sounds good.
One or two, that is, not 50.

It's been about a year since I've had one. But now that you mention it, it does sound pretty good. ;)

#211 Amalie,

In my synagogue we often sit down for a meal together. We have some good food, some laughs, and often some good liquor. We make a toast and say L'chaim (to life). Sometimes my rabbi makes a joke: "The truth is at the bottom of the bottle."

So the other day I asked my wife "what do you think of this Mel thing?"

She says: "The truth is at the bottom of the bottle."

The PR guys said it was equivalent to dropping a nitrogen bomb on his career.

I don't know. There's just something mildly entertaining about celebs taking a graveyard spin.

256 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:54:04pm

#235 SwampWoman

Well, I can't go in the milkshake place anymore,

Lmao

I heard about that!
From now on, when you walk in the place, they're going to hand you the mop before they serve you.

257 Golden Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:54:19pm

#252 zombie:

But it just goes to show what these stars' lives are like. You can't even get near their stuff, much less them personally.

Which begs the question: Would you really want to?

258 zombie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:55:10pm
#223 extrabob
between those gigs I do extra work in movies and TV shows

Dang, this thread is populated by extras tonight! We should all just walk back and forth in the backround while the rest of the commenters take center stage.

259 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:55:18pm

zombie
And a lot of those superior beings profess to believe in Liberté, EGALITÉ, Fraternité.
Yeah, sure.

260 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:55:57pm

#254 tradewind

Me too. Anyone from Israel around?

That would be our Golden Jerusalem, but he's out of coffee so he might be a lil' bit testy.

261 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:56:02pm

Golde Jerusalem
Hola hermano, ¿cómo estás? :)

262 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:56:04pm

Nasrallah on C-Span 2 now.

What an asswipe.

263 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:56:51pm

Extras are fascinating. Sometimes I will just watch them instead of the main characters..

264 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:57:39pm

#251 Golden Jerusalem

Well, at least it wasn't the toilet paper.

I guess I'm drinking tea :P

Yeah, the coffee can be a little easier to replace.

/IMO.

265 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:58:18pm

Thanks, Swampwoman.

(Here GJ, I've got extra Verona... ).

What is happening there?

266 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 9:59:20pm

#262 tradewind

What an asswipe.

There you go, GJ. Just in case your flatmate runs y'all out of the toilet paper, too.

/But he looks a little scratchy to me.

267 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:00:02pm

Gee I just read in a Mex paper that Chávez just wirhdrew his ambassador in Israel.
The amazing part of the news is that he had an ambassador there.
I wonder since when.

268 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:00:48pm

Swampwoman,

He looks like a eunuch to me. Or a dark side version of the Pillsbury DoughImam.

269 Golden Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:01:14pm

#258 zombie:

Dang, this thread is populated by extras tonight! We should all just walk back and forth in the backround while the rest of the commenters take center stage.

Me, I'm planning to star in my own movie tonight :D

#261 miguel:

Hola Miguel!

Estoy bien, gracias! Comenzio el curso el lunes :P

Babelfish: Espero que haya algunos chicas calientes para ayudarme con mi preparacion...

270 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:01:25pm

#256 Bordm

From now on, when you walk in the place, they're going to hand you the mop before they serve you.

From now on, I'm sticking to bottled water.

271 extrabob  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:01:33pm

#252 zombie
Strange as it seems, the two friendliest, nicest people I've ever worked with in the movie/TV biz are two of the biggest leftist idiots... Martin Sheen and George Clooney. Despite their politics, they are really good people. I got to know both of them pretty well, having been a "regular" on both West Wing and E.R. They are the exceptions... they knew my politics, and I know theirs, and we were still buddies.
And by the way, I am a big fan of your photojournalism... you are awesome!

272 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:02:50pm

Miguel,

Withdrew may be their word for it.

Run out on a rail more likely.

273 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:03:40pm

GJ
LOL!
Algunas ;)

274 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:04:50pm

tradewind
Yes, withdrew it was, sorry lol

275 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:05:29pm

Amalie is already fading out.
Like a song...

276 zombie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:05:49pm
#263 Amalie
Extras are fascinating. Sometimes I will just watch them instead of the main characters..

I do that too. And not just 'cause I'm looking for myself! It's actually quite amusing to watch them sometimes. We do little hidden tricks to get ourselves noticed. And often, the extras are doing something wrong or are dressed the wrong way and totally ruin the scene, if anybody noticed. Historical dramas made in the '70s are particularly comical -- if a movie takes place in the '20s or '30s, for example, often the '70s extras will have blow-dried hair and polyester pants, etc. Most famously, many of the USC students who were extras playing Roman soldiers in Spartacus were wearing watches in one battle scene. It never occurred to anyone to tell them to take off their watches, and the scene was too expensive to re-shoot, so they just left it in the movie, watches and all.

277 Golden Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:05:58pm

#266 Swamp Woman:

There you go, GJ. Just in case your flatmate runs y'all out of the toilet paper, too.

/But he looks a little scratchy to me.

Ewwwwwww! :P

/Now, if my toilet was all clogged, Nazirallah might be a good alternative, know whaddamean?

278 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:06:02pm

Damn, a little of that nasrallah guy goes a long way....
He's positively soporific.

Sleep tight, ya'll.

279 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:07:44pm

Miguel

I'm fading... ... ... ..

:D

280 zombie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:07:47pm
#271 extrabob

And by the way, I am a big fan of your photojournalism... you are awesome!

Just stay away from my chair, you underling!

281 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:07:49pm

There's got to be somebody, somewhere, printing up famous Imam toilet paper.

282 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:08:34pm

#266 SwampWoman

/But he looks a little scratchy to me.

Better to take your chances with the corn cobs dipped in ant poison.

283 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:08:39pm

Amalie
As usual... ;)

284 Golden Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:08:59pm

#273 Miguel:

Algunas

LOL yea, actually that makes sense. Still, the sentence was understandable, eh?

285 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:10:06pm

Golden Jerusalem
Yes, I understood all :)

286 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:10:41pm

Zombie

So, say a party scene, are the extras told to speak quietly or even pretend to be talking?

287 tradewind  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:11:05pm

#281

When they print it, I got their slogan:

Hezbollah: We're on a roll.

( really out now).

288 zombie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:11:37pm
#281 SwampWoman
There's got to be somebody, somewhere, printing up famous Imam toilet paper.

Well, here's some Osama bin Laden toilet paper to tide you over til you find the Charmin' Imam.

289 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:12:03pm

Night Tradewind ~~

290 SwampWoman  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:13:27pm

G'night, tradewind! G'night, everybody!

291 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:13:53pm

Night Swampwoman!

292 Beagle  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:14:28pm

Hot Jew-on-Jew action
This piece is so negative I thought he was describing Ahmadinejad instead of Olmert for a while. Democracies wage war like porcupines have sex.

The comments are mostly positive. But Hizballah has been digging in and storing advanced weaponry, along with thousands of artillery rockets for six years. I read an article about this war four years ago. The media is so far behind the Internet I'm not sure they're on the same track.

Only a military dimwit thinks tanks can roll over heavily entrenched infantry possessing advanced guided anti-tank weapons. People apparently don't get how easy it is to hide and launch Katyushas either. It's a perfect terror weapon in small barrages.

293 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:14:38pm

Good night swampies :p

294 Carridine  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:14:58pm

#252- Zombie: (almost typed Zobmie)

EGGS-Ackley! Which leads to the observation that if you're TOO SMALL to sit in ANYBODY's chair, you're no superstar!

If you have $850 MILLION, but can't get free of your demon, chattering on your shoulder, whispering hateful 'slimy Jews' poison to your inner ear, you're no superstar!

I'm not even a star, but as some blessed soul stated upstream, "...I can SLEEP at night!"
(I still wish Gibson well, as that's a hell of an addiction/affliction!)

Gotta get my sons from school, before the local splodeydopes try something!

Back in 2 hours... Y'all be bad good, y'hear?

295 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:16:27pm

swampwomen Bordm,
O say, can you see, by the dawns early light,
What so proudly we hail'd at the twightlight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, were so valiantly streaming?

296 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:17:08pm

What was Gibson doing hanging out with women at a bar at that time of the night?

297 raidergirl  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:17:16pm

Goodluck Ya'll!

298 zombie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:17:37pm
#286 Amalie
So, say a party scene, are the extras told to speak quietly or even pretend to be talking?

Sometimes you're told to pretend but stay silent, but usually "Talk, but talk quietly." What we're usually saying is not what we're supposed to be saying ("So, how do you like this party?"), but rather stuff like, "Is this scene supposed to be funny? 'Cause that's the worst dialogue I've ever heard. And don't you think the lead actress is bulimic? Look at her -- she's emaciated..." etc. All of this on camera.

299 Golden Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:17:42pm

#294 carradine:

Y'all be bad good, y'hear?

Heh, it's too early in the day to be bad...

Maybe later...

/rrrrrrrrrr

300 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:18:23pm

298 zombie

hee-hee

I love it..

301 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:19:24pm

#213 Amalie 8/3/2006 11:35PM PDT

Mandy Manners

Headaches! The product is supposed to get rid of the headache you get from watching their commercials..

Huh? That reminds me of the shampoos that promise shinier/healthier hair due to the vitamins. Heck, your hair would get more benefit if you drank the stuff.

302 extrabob  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:20:10pm

#296 Mandy
I've been wondering that, too. If my wife saw pictures on TV of cute blondes hanging all over me, I'd be in SO MUCH TROUBLE...

303 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:20:32pm

They are gonna put me in a movie,
they're gonna make a big star out of me;
I'll play the part about a man that's sad and lonely,
and all I've got to do is Act Naturally...

304 Amalie  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:21:01pm

Bed On

Apply directly to the body
Apply directly to the body
Apply directly to the body...


Night everyone..

305 SlothB77  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:21:17pm

mediarelations123@yahoo.com

should now be receiving offers for Viagra and to be a Mystery Shopper from several sources.

306 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:21:21pm

G'nite Swampy. G'nite tradewind.

Goodluck to you too raidergirl.

307 Golden Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:21:39pm

In a similar vein, I love those kids' cereals, which are like 50% sugar... and then they have an announcement on the box saying that it's calcium-enriched, wtf :D

/My kids don't aren't eating that junk, btw

308 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:22:59pm

Good night Amalie!

309 BenZacharia  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:23:57pm

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]


Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice showed that she has a political tin ear on Sunday when she announced in Jerusalem a 48-hour Israeli pause in airstrikes, without having first finalized the agreement with Prime Minister Olmert and his government.

Rice’s entourage leaked the impending Israeli “pause” to American reporters in Jerusalem after midnight the night before, even as discussions with the Israeli government were ongoing.

This is why Olmert felt compelled to contradict Rice in an unusual statement several hours after she left Jerusalem on Sunday. He said the Israeli air force would continue to hit targets in Lebanon if intelligence showed Hezbollah was preparing to fire rockets into Israel. “Rice thought this was just about diplomacy,” an Israeli official told me. “But this is also about politics.”

------
Hope GW also gave her the slapdown for going all 'State Dept' on him.

.

310 Bordm  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:24:06pm

G'nite Amalie, sweet dreams and no bedbugs.

311 Golden Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:26:17pm

How many shaheedmonkeys have we captured?

Heavy fighting was taking place on Friday morning between IDF ground troops and Hizbullah guerrillas in the town of Makarbe in the eastern sector of southern Lebanon, west of Kiryat Shmona.

Hizbullah fighters threw explosive devices at the troops, wounding one soldier moderately and another lightly. The two were taken for medical treatment in a hospital.

IDF forces took several of the Hizbullah operatives captive.

Shortly afterward, IDF forces killed four Hizbullah operatives in the village of Shama and launched a chase after the remaining fighters. Another Hizbullah guerrilla was killed in the town of Manhelle.

For a group that seems to be so into martyring themselves and others, they sure don't apply their own rules with any great consistency

312 BenZacharia  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:30:11pm

BBL

313 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:43:00pm

BBL 2 :p

314 Golden Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:43:47pm

I'm off to get a haircut and take care of a few errands.

I'll catch you guys later!

315 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:45:16pm

morning all

316 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:47:08pm

BBL 3

Jewels! :-)

317 Cactus Pete  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:47:25pm

Speaking of media relations...
Vacation anyone?

Love the quote from the "tourism minister":
"Lebanon, still as vibrant as ever!"

Click the "Contact Us" link and let 'em know just how much you want to visit the Hez.

318 Sarah D.  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:47:32pm
I can tell you how dangerous it is. I have an Israeli friend who wanted to email my son-in-law's family who lives in a Palestinian refugee camp in Tyre. I asked permission of my daughter, and she totally flipped out and said NO, I was not to give any information about the family to anyone. The reason? Four Palestinians were killed by Hezbollah. Why? They had received emails either from Israel or the United States. THAT is how dangerous it is.
319 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 10:55:55pm

I have sent at least 10 emails to those PR guys' addresses and haven't gotten ONE reply. Hezballah is so rude!

320 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:01:17pm

what's up all? I haven't even had time to read today, its been so busy at work

321 Mike C.  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:05:47pm

Jewels

I think a lot of folks just split, at least temporarilly. As to what's up, I've been working, so I'm not a good source.

322 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:07:52pm

ah...well I'm over on the CriterionDVD site seeing whats new

323 GT2_Oasis 14  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:08:15pm

AFP via Jordan Times:

A glimpse into Hizbollah’s secretive world

They use three-digit numbers as code names, live off canned tuna, and tape over their jewelry so an accidental twinkle doesn't give away their position to Israeli war planes.
...........

"This is the battle we have long expected and long prepared for," says Hajj Rabia Abu Hussein — known to his soldiers simply as "103." "I know my mission. I must make my rockets hit Israel," he says matter of factly.

The 40-year-old field commander, who oversees military activities in one sector — generally comprising three villages — of the Hizbollah-dominated south, says he has fired many such rockets since the conflict began 20 days ago. As Hussein talks, he fingers his Motorola radio, his means of communication with his soldiers farther afield. He wears trainers, a blue denim buttondown shirt and a baseball cap that he slings backwards when the conversation turns intimate.

Hussein sits beside Abu Mohammad, 44, a longtime friend in Reeboks, a loose fitting T-shirt and cargo pants.

In their fashion choices, mild manners, and neatly trimmed beards, Abu Mohammad - code name "121" — and Hajj Hussein very much fit the Hizbollah mold.

They shift seamlessly from civilian garb to soldiers' wear, they say.

"Our people are outfitted as soldiers, but when we are among civilians then we dress normally. When we are in the field, we dress as soldiers," says Hussein.

"It's not reasonable to walk around in military uniforms and carry rifles when, for example, the Red Cross comes into town." The bucolic farming village they grew up in is one of dozens of similar hamlets scattered across these hills, where Hizbollah grew into a potent fighting force and popular political party. Today these villages are absorbing the brunt of the Israeli onslaught. The Shiite fighters are outgunned, outmanned, and confronting one of the most technologically savvy armies in the world. Still the Hizbollah rockets continue to fall on northern Israel. Hussein and his comrade-in-arms Abu Mohammad explain how the Shiite fighters continue to dodge Israel's wrath and live to fight another day. "We use local knowledge," says Hussein. "On the radio, we talk about a certain tree or a certain cliff. How will the Israelis understand that?" Hussein and Mohammad, not their real names, have grown up together in these villages, and frolicked in the surrounding hills as young boys.


Oh, the Hills are Alive with the Sound of Jihad.

324 SlothB77  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:08:50pm

amalie, funny, i remember when you joined this thing. every so often a catch a new member when they make their first post and someone, in a drunken state, i remember your name.

i probably imagined you were a hottie or something.

anyways, have a good night. and please, no more references to that ad. for the love of all that is holy!

325 bp_sf is now bp_nj  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:11:13pm

With all this wonderful news, I may celebrate 4:20 twice today.

Hiz baller: You've got mail!

326 Rune  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:12:16pm

OT:
Poking around on Wikipedia a bit I stumbled on this: List of Muslim Nobel Prize winners.

Spot the difference: List of Jewish Nobel Prize winners?

Ironic also that more half the Muslim winners are in the Peace Prize category. Must be the whole Religion of *BOOM* Peace thing. Of course only one of them actually deserve it: Shirin Ebadi.

There's no list for Christians.

327 Sleipnir  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:12:53pm

More on "Green Helmet" and "White Tee-shirt" from EU Referendum

Explain this one

White Tee-shirt appears to have changed his shirt and cleaned up before his camera run.

Now we have a scene that we have seen before. This is a video grab which shows the bodies of two girls, still in the wrecked builing. The one that "White Tee-shirt" is holding is taken off him by "Green Helmet" who uses it for his "camera run". The one to the left is then taken by "White Tee-shirt" for his. But look at his tee-shirt. There is no sign of any writing on the front – just a discrete logo on the left of the chest. Our man also looks rather clean and well-groomed.

And there's this:

Now, NewsMax, reports that news photographers saw aid workers wrapping furniture in body bags hours after the Qana attack then loading the "corpses" into ambulances for the benefit of television news cameras. Crucially, we are also told that "Hezbollah officials at the site prevented the photographers from documenting the fabrication". This is from sources at the scene who asked not to be identified.

Conclusion:

As one of our forum members remarked – what more do you need – a director's chair with "Hezbollah" on it?

328 bp_sf is now bp_nj  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:15:00pm

"WTC: Why I Hate This Lousy Movie"

You go, Cindy!

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

329 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:29:32pm

and the rest...is silence

330 GT2_Oasis 14  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:36:27pm

More deep-hitting analysis by al-AFP:

Trauma of war leaves mother without milk

By Jailan Zayan
Agence France-Presse

BEIRUT — Fadia Ballout can no longer nurse her son as he screams with hunger.

Traumatised by her family's escape from a southern Lebanese village close to Qana, where an Israeli air strike killed 60 people on Sunday, her breastmilk has stopped.

As 18-month-old Hussein latched onto his mother's breast, he howled.

"Still no milk," the 34-year-old mother said.

"I've had to give him formula, which he is not used to."

331 Merrick Wanta Registratia  Thu, Aug 3, 2006 11:46:11pm

Er, Extrabob since you were a cop did you ever have to chase after the Unknown Comic's doppleganger?

332 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:01:45am

Good morning, dead thread.

333 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:04:20am

Good morning Mike ;)

334 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:04:38am

/driveby

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------->
Help yourselves!

/back to workie
//driveby

335 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:10:21am

As always a great Vent by Michelle Malkin, this time on Lieberman and Lamont.

336 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:11:29am

"watches littleoldlady pass by"
ZZZZZZZZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!

Thanks for the fruitcuuuuuuppppp......!

337 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:14:32am

Runs fast for such a short person, doesn't she?

338 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:17:13am

Incredibly fast.
Must have some Acme Rocket Skates ™

Beep, beep.

339 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:17:29am

Awfully quiet in here. But at least the drunk apparently passed out, finally.

340 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:18:59am

I will never dare to ask who's the drunk LOL

341 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:22:42am

Has anyone seen St Pancake lately?

342 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:26:36am

# 341 Miguel

Not in a while. Did she make it out of philly alive? Those cheesesteaks can be deadly, you know.

343 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:27:39am

On Topic:
I still have one of Al Capone calling cards. This one says:
WE'LL PROTECT YOUR BUSINESS.
GUARANTEED.

344 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:29:38am

Mike
LOL! Dangerous food? LOL
I seem to recall that she made it back home all right. I hope I'm right in this.

345 Beagle  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:32:05am

#330 GT2O12

an Israeli air strike killed 60 people


So the original (wrong) estimate has been inflated by about eight and the actual number of 28 is being ignored. Not to mention the entire staged and possibly faked nature of the event. Al-Reuters has found how low they can go, and it's very.

346 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:34:10am

Beagle
¡Viva la Blogósfera! :p

347 Defender  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:46:15am

Certainly those CNN, AP, etc. "journalists" (a.k.a. Lap Dogs) love this. Behind these cards perhaps there are complete press kits that include, dare I say, the stories already written? I imagine the MSM just soaking that up. It is just... SOOOoooo High Brow!

348 Beagle  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:50:45am

Oh man, it's AFP. Three stooges and I never get them sorted out. Well, AFP sucks.

349 New york's Michael  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:52:25am

This is not so wild when you consider that they are a member of lebanon's government. It is interesting that this membership is being kept quiet by the media and the US state department.

350 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:56:26am

# 344 Miguel

You ever see one of those cheesesteaks ? Heart attack in a bun.

351 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:58:35am

Mike
No, I've never seen one. They sound tasty, though.

352 Chana  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 12:59:49am

#24 ploome hineni

I happened to speak to the wife of an Israeli fireman this morning and she told me how all the firefighters in Israel are taking turns going up North to help their collegues. (So much for summer vacation with the family).

It doesn't help that it is very hot in Israel right now and since it's summer, there isn't any rain. Not to mention that the Arabs set forest fires every so often.

Anyway it's a wonderful thing and I am sure the Israeli firefighters appreciate the help.

353 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:04:55am

# 351 Miguel

I've only been there once. Of course we wanted to get one of those cheesesteaks. So we went into this little place somewhere (probably not one of the famous ones) and they had these huge cans of some nasty syntho-cheese-like stuff (Velveeta, I think), which they gooped all over the steak and onions. So I had a "cheesesteak" with no cheese. I was not impress. Give me a good old Reynosa taco, some totopos and some salsa Mexicana any day.

354 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:10:53am

Mike
Right on! lol

355 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:16:07am

# 354 Miguel

One neat thing there (out of many) is the oldest continuouslt occupied residential street in the US. Efram Street, I think, but don't hold me to that. littleoldlady would know.

356 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:17:57am

Sigh. "Continuously."

357 stemir  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:22:21am

Yea, lets call their media relations guy and ask:
Is this Mr Nabulshit?, Hussein Nabulshit?

358 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:25:00am

Mike
I'm sure Philly is a beautiful city. Lots of history.

359 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:26:13am

Just for you, Miguel. This AM's lead editorial in the Washington Times.

360 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:33:47am
361 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:35:34am

Mike
Thank you. That's a good article. The only difference I have is that I don't see this being a benefit for the left and López Obrador.

362 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:38:11am

See no terrorists.

Read it. Seriously.

363 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:41:43am

1. Thanks for the short dig. I'll have you know what I lack in stature and leg length, I make up for in economy of movement.

2. Mikey, for goodness sakes! Come to Philadelphia and have a real cheesesteak at Pat's or Geno's. I forced St. Pancake to try it and she made all-gone licketysplit!

3. Are you talking about Elfreth's Alley?

364 quiet man  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:44:32am

"Hello, Wang? I'd like a large pork fried rice, 2 orders of bacon wrapped shrimp, and a large Pepsi wirg extra ice over pronto?"

365 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:44:55am

Okay, just one more. When warming's 'hockey stick' breaks.

I have an idea regarding just where that broken hockey stick should be shoved (Hi Al!), but I'll refrain from graphic description.

366 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:47:17am

# 363 littleoldlad

RE # 3 - that's probably it. Very cool, I thought. Loved the little mirrors that allowed you to check on who was knocking at your door without have to actually open it.

367 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:50:04am

littleoldlady

Do you have contact info on St Pancake? Have you heard from her?

368 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:51:02am

# 363 littleoldlady Addendum

Hmm. You know, a run up to Philly without having to drag a couple of kids along is not all that bad of an idea. TgoP and I haven't done anything like that in years. I'll have to think on it and peruse the old non-schedule.

369 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:53:41am

Good Morning Youse'all from a hot (79 degrees going up to 88) and humid NYC! How is everyone?

370 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:54:32am

As a publicist I find this hilarious.

Looks like they set up their yahoo account Christmas 2004. They're so sentimental, those Hezbollunatics..

[Link: profiles.yahoo.com...]

371 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:55:07am

#363 littleoldlady {littleoldlady} - How are ya this morning? How's the weather in Philly?
BTW - didja get my e-mail from last night?

372 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:55:27am

Only 88 in NYC today? Wahooo! That's practically winter!

373 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:55:52am

# 369 realwest

Hi, realwest. Bye, realwest.

I'm hungry and want to get some dinner. I'll think about the idea of engaging littleoldlady Travel Services, LLC for a Philly trip while I eat. Back in a bit.

374 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:57:12am

realwest

Doing well, cold front came through yesterday afternoon rained and cooled things down considerable.

375 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:01:58am

In my last year of college I lived in a tiny little row house a mile or so from the Alley that was probably built about 25+ years later. It consisted of an unfinished - stone floor and walls - basement (that originally was the kitchen), a room on the first floor (with a lean-to add-on kitchen that had been added in the 20th century.... I think. :-) A tiny bedroom and the-world's-smallest-bathroom on the second floor. And a "big" (using the term loosely) bedroom on the third floor (that my roomate got). The whole thing was tied together with a tiny rickety circular staircase/well. I wish I could remember how we got furniture above the first floor...

Over the years Philadelphians gave those little houses a nickname: "Father, Son and Holy Ghost".

It's the stairs I remember the most. It was a fun year, socially, but it resulted in too many trips and falls, both up and down those goofy stairs!

376 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:02:21am

#372 NoSubmission - LOL! Well, not exactly Winter, but a lot cooler than 104, I'll grant you that! Where are you and what's the weather like by you?

377 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:04:40am

#353, Mike C.

they had these huge cans of some nasty syntho-cheese-like stuff (Velveeta, I think)

Cheez Whiz. *gack*

Gimme some melted provolone on my cheesesteak, please. I don't give a damn about the "authentic Philly experience".

And good morning, y'all.

378 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:04:52am

#375 littleoldlady - What am I, chopped liver, again? (see my #371)?!?

379 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:04:58am

#376 realwest

I live in NYC too! Its a heckuva lot better today, I can tell.

380 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:05:29am

{BenZ!}, {realwest!}

Haven't heard back from St. Pancake. I bet she went on another vacation, because school starts for her in a couple of weeks. I'll try to call her later today.

realwest,

Just saw your email. (yahoo mail is s-l-o-w!)

381 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:06:59am

And I'll grab a fruitcup before anyone hands me a cheesesteak for breakfast...

382 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:07:14am

#374 BenZacharia - Morning Ben! Glad you got a cooling off in the weather too. How hot is supposed to be in your neck of the wood today? And, of course, how's your wife doing?

383 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:09:29am

#381 Dar ul Harb - Morning Dar. Yeah, someohow a fruticup would be nice this morging and save the Philly Cheesesteak for later; it's not really breakfast food, is it?!
How are you?

384 quiet man  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:10:04am

"Hello Mr Naboulsi? This is Sandy with the National Organization of Women, you know, NOW. We have a complaint that you have been abusing woemns rights again. Have you boys been abusing women again, Sir?

Heussy, you got some 'splainin' to do!"

385 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:10:25am
And I'll grab a fruitcup before anyone hands me a cheesesteak for breakfast...

You just don't know what you're missing...

WOW! It's 73 degrees this morning. That's quite a change. No rain last night, though.

386 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:11:18am

Hmmmm, based on my spelling in #383, I think I better get some coffee!
BBIAM

387 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:15:26am

#385 {littleoldlady} - yeah it threatend to rain here, and we had some thunder and lightening, but no rain, just a LOT of humidity!
Only three more Dead Threads for me (tomorrow, Sunday and Monday) then I'm outta here for at least four days - brrrrrrr - can't even think about it without anticipatory withdrawal symptoms setting in!

388 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:19:06am

Um, hello? Did everyone leave with Mike C. to get
drunk dinner?!

389 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:19:50am

realwest,

All those little containers in the refrigerator will be your share of the fruitcup for all the mornings you're away from LGF.

:-)

I wish you an easy and uneventful move. Notice I said wish.

390 quiet man  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:20:04am

"Hello Mr Naboulsi? This Micheal Moore the movieman? Yes, I am making a documentary on Hezbullah playgrounds, hospitals, and schools but I do not have time to come to Lebanon..Do you have any stock footage I can blend in with the movies I took in colorafo? Anything at all. Thanks. What? oh. Calla snack-bar to you, too."

391 Hillbilly Geek  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:21:49am

The cards are obviously laid out in Micro$oft Publisher. I'm just sayin'.

392 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:24:29am

Time for my daily cheesesteak (and heart, blood pressure and cholestrol meds)... Breakfast of Champions!

/cue Rocky theme

Good day, ALL!™

May G-d protect the IDF and all the people of Israel!

393 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:24:39am

#389 littleoldlady - Wishes are all I could hope for. Thanks lol - btw, if you reach St.Pancake say hello for me, ok?

394 quiet man  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:25:50am

"Hello Mr Naboulsi? This is AlGore, does it seem too hot where you are? I can tell you about that! Hello? hello? Have you seen manbearpig around there? Hello, Mr Naboulsi?"

395 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:25:57am

realwest

Up to about 87 today, wifffeee still 90% flat on her back, which would drive me nuts.

Condi is making noises I don't want to hear, if it's coming from State GW needs to do some slap down. If it's coming from WH, it is NOT in our best interests.

The Generals on the ground in Iraq are a concerned about the likelihood of civil war breaking out.

.

396 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:26:28am

Will do, realwest. Have a great day!

397 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:27:26am

Morning all,

A chilly 78 degrees this morning. Makes me almost want to put a sweater on. Sadly, the AC is on here at work, so I have to suck it up until 11 am, when I can flee. And order has been restored in the Yankees Universe, as they now reside where they normally do, in first place.

Anyway, the NYPost weighs in on the ugliness coming from Ned Lamont and his supporters, the bottom-feeding left:

Ned's Nutcases

Lamont in particular has been propelled by the far-left blogosphere, whose patently obnoxious methods were on display this week - and led its favorite candidate to demonstrate how disingenuous he truly is.

Anyone who surfs the Web no doubt saw the Photoshopped image of Lieberman in classic minstrel-show blackface that was created by Jane Hamsher, a Hollywood producer (Oliver Stone's "Natural Born Killers"), contributor to the Huffington Post and one of Lamont's most fervent backers.

Lamont tried to dismiss the episode by claiming "I don't know anything about the blogs" and insisting that Hamsher is not on his campaign staff. But it turns out that she might as well be.

She's raised money for Lamont. She travels with Lamont as part of his personal entourage (together with his wife and campaign manager). She has been involved in his campaign commercials and photographed his video blog.

And when the Lamont campaign asked her to remove the offensive post, she was quick to comply.

But over-the-top Hollywood zealots are hardly the most troubling aspect of Lamont's candidacy. Because if it's true that a man is known by the company he keeps, Connecticut Democrats should take a long, hard look at who's been making the campaign rounds lately with Joe Lieberman's challenger.

In recent weeks, Lamont has campaigned several times with Rep. Maxine Waters of California, perhaps best-known for cheering on the Los Angeles rioters in the wake of the 1992 Rodney King verdict. Six years later, Waters publicly apologized to Fidel Castro for supporting a resolution demanding that he extradite fugitive Joanne Chesimard (a k a Assata Shakur), who shot two New Jersey state troopers, one fatally, and fled to Cuba after escaping prison.

He's also campaigned with Rep. Marcy Kaptur, a frequent critic of Israel who has taken a soft line on anti-Israel terrorism. Just two weeks ago, both Kaptur and Waters voted "present" - refusing to take a position - on a resolution condemning Hezbollah's attacks and supporting Israel's "right to defend itself." (The measure passed the House by a resounding 410-8 vote.)

This week, Lamont gleefully stumped with the twin titans of race-baiting politics, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. (Lieberman, it's worth noting, was a civil-rights activist himself in the South in the '60s, a claim few other members of Congress can make.)

Hmm. If Joe Lieberman must be beaten, as the extreme left demands, because he's too cozy with conservatives, shouldn't Lamont be judged by the people who've been surrounding him?

398 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:31:40am

QUEERLY BELOVED
Homosexual-activist cop threatens Christians
Officer orders pro-marriage petitions removed from Promise Keepers event


"Officers then physically removed the petitions from 'public view' on the table at the exhibitors tent," the council said in a website update of the situation. "Two of the male officers mocked the volunteers by kissing each other after they initially removed all the petitions from the area."
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Allen was backed up by four other Sunrise officers and continued to argue "theology" even after Promise Keepers' own security and event officials arrived and explained the petitions were authorized.

What the HELL is going on in this country? OH yeah, I forgot. Never mind.


[Link: www.wnd.com...]

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399 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:33:08am

JPod: Terror's Suck-ups

The most blatant example of this sucking-up came the other day, when the second-ranking official at the United Nations sounded offended at the idea that Israel had gone to war with a terrorist group. "It's not helpful to couch this war in the language of international terrorism," said Mark Malloch Brown, a Briton. "Hezbollah employs terrorist tactics; it is an organization . . . [that] draws on a strong political well of support in southern Lebanon and after the events of the last few weeks more deeply."

So it's not helpful to dub a group that crosses a border and kidnaps three Israeli soldiers as a key element in "international terrorism." Why? Because it has "a strong political well of support."

Malloch Brown doesn't just want us to treat Hezbollah as a power player. It appears he wants the world to force Israel to cede a group of farms on the Golan Heights - the Shaaba Farms - to Hezbollah so that it can claim it got something in exchange for a cease-fire.

This is an astonishing notion. The Shaaba farms, which occupy a grand total of 16 square miles, were seized by Israel during the Six Day War and annexed in 1981 - from Syria. Lebanon has no claim on them save for a single 1966 map. The United Nations itself recognizes no Lebanese claim to the farms (which the Israelis call Har Dov).

But since the Israeli pullout from Southern Lebanon in 2000, Hezbollah has offered the hilarious justification for its occasional rocket attacks and cross-border volleys against Israel that it is fighting for Lebanon's control of Shaaba Farms.

And the deputy undersecretary-general of the United Nations wants seriously to consider giving Hezbollah control over the farms. As he told the Financial Times: "Everybody would want a solution here which takes away the recruiting power of Hezbollah in the broader Arab world. That is one which addresses the territorial issue of the Shaaba farms, which in a broader way addresses Lebanon's sovereignty and integrity in a way that allows Hezbollah a political as against a militia future inside an independent Lebanon."

Yes, because if Hezbollah controls the Shaaba Farms, it would never put any rockets there or anything.

There's a disturbing historical parallel here. Once before at a time of military crisis in modern history did the international community decide to cede a swath of territory belonging to another country to an irredentist actor on the world stage in hopes of civilizing and demilitarizing that actor. The year was 1938. The place was the Sudetenland, a recognized part of Czechoslovakia with a substantial population of Germans.

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Amazingly enough, Mark Malloch Brown didn't make the most offensive series of statements about Hezbollah this week. He came in a distant second to Robert Pape, a professor at the University of Chicago. In a New York Times piece yesterday, Pape actually compared Hezbollah to "the multidimensional American civil-rights movement of the 1960s."

Memo to my fellow University of Chicago alumni: You might want to consider holding back those alumni donations this year. And next. And forever.

400 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:34:10am

Monring all. Great fruitcup, littleoldlady, thanks.
Realwest, when is the move? I join in lol's wishes for an easy one.

401 israellycool  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:34:52am

And Hamas now have a "media consultant" (see 2:30PM update of today's liveblogging post)

402 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:36:25am

I'm still trying to wrap my head around Hizbollah having a director of media relations. Coffee didn't help.
Does this mean they really aren't a terrorist group?

403 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:37:36am

Hillbilly #391- and notice, there are no globular clusters.

404 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:38:25am
405 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:39:00am

#397 JammieWearingFool - morning bud! Yeah it's cooler outside, but still pretty humid. And while I'm pleased (but of course not surprised) that our Yankess are in first place, when you look at the line-up card it's like "who the hell are these guys?". I mean Jeter and Giambi and Rodriguez and Posada we all know and love, but everyone else is NEW this year, and some within this past two weeks!

BTW - you wrote "...shouldn't Lamont be judged by the people who've been surrounding him?" and I would change that to read shouldn't Lamont be judged by the people with whom he's surrounded himself? I mean, those folks didn't just show up on his doorstep, ya know?

406 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:41:30am
407 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:42:01am

#400 Jim in Virginia - well we're flying down to Charlotte on Tuesday and moving into our new apartment Wednesday August 9th and, the good lord willin' and the creek don't rise, I'll be back on line probably Friday August 11th.
Thank for the good wishes!
How are you doing today? Is it cooler where you are?

408 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:44:12am

This may be old news to some of you but I was suprised to say the least:

Apple Warns of Profit Restatement

SAN FRANCISCO - Apple Computer Inc. warned Thursday that it may have to revise its profits dating back to 2002 in a worsening stock option scandal that has cast a harsh light on Silicon Valley's compensation practices.

Without providing specifics, the Cupertino, Calif.-based maker of Macintosh computer and iPod music players said it had uncovered enough evidence of mishandled stock options to raise doubts about the accuracy of financial statements dating back to Sept. 29, 2002.

During this stretch, Apple has enjoyed one of the most prosperous periods in its 30-year history. Fueled largely by steadily rising sales of its ubiquitous iPod, Apple has reported $3.1 billion in profit during the past four years.

Apple first raised a red flag about the way it accounted for stock options in late June when it announced an internal investigation into a series of "irregularities."

Some of the nettlesome stock options were given to Steve Jobs, Apple's renowned chief executive, but he voluntarily canceled those in 2003 before cashing them in.

After digging deeper, Apple uncovered enough new problems to prompt the company to hire an outside lawyer to take over the investigation and notify the Securities and Exchange Commission about its findings.

Apple hopes to complete its accounting review as quickly as possible, said company spokesman Steve Dowling. In the meantime, Apple may miss a deadline for filing its latest quarterly report with the SEC.

[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]

409 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:45:32am

Hi realwest,

Much nicer today, though some rain is in the forecast this morning.

Once you get past the first day, the withdrawal isn't so bad. I just did a good 15-day stretch LGF-free and managed to survive.

I wore the LGF Patch.

410 Carridine  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:45:35am

#399- Jammie: EXCELLENT essay! Spot on, about Sudetenland...

Sudetenland was key to Czechoslovakia, which was key to Poland, which was key to Russia...

And England was instrumental in 'persuading' the Czechs to commit suicide by ceding their heavily fortified (against Germany!) Sudetenland...

So I SEE where appeasement leads us!

411 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:45:56am
412 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:46:56am

Um, has anyone out here seen or heard from MigueldowninMexico lately? Those riots and street actions in Mexico City and elsewhere by the loser lefty's supporters seem to be getting nastier and uglier by the day. Hope Miguel is ok.

413 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:47:18am

realwest, yes, not cool yet but cooler. Readng upthread re philly cheesesteaks- just what my arteries need.
Like John Kerry, can I have mine with swiss?

414 Carridine  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:48:58am

#406- Infidel: As long as I have life in MY body, they'll have to fight past me...

...and, I daresay, YOU and Zombie, Realwest, Golden J, Granny and 10 THOUSAND other media-savvy (or quickly savviable) pro-American minds!

I am NOT going down quietly!

415 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:49:11am

#409 JammieWearingFool -LOL! I have two shoulder versions of it, one sewn on my denim jacket the other just loose, so I may carry the loose one in my pocket! LOL!

416 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:49:41am

realwest- miguel was on yesterday, I think also on this thread a couple hours ago.
You just need to get up earlier!

417 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:50:51am

realwest

Just look up^^.

418 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:52:11am

Work calls. Hi Ben, bye Ben. Hope the wife continues to improve.
Y'all stay safe.

419 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:54:16am

# 412 realwest

He was on earlier. He doesn't live in Ciudad de Mexico.

420 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:56:08am

#416 and #417, Jim and Ben - thanks! I think Miguel is great, but I am NOT getting up at 5:30 in the morning just to say howdy and then have him have to leave right away!
Sure glad to know he's ok. Not surprised that as are many of us, he's a little concerned about St. Pancake, who's gone missing for a week or so now (last e-mail I had from her and I'll bet it's longer than that since she posted).

421 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:56:36am
422 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:56:42am

realwest,

Once the injuries are healed, the lineup on any given day will be Damon, Jeter, Abreu, A-Rod, Giambi, Sheffield, Matsui, Posada, Cano.

That's nine current of former all-stars. I'll take that.

Surprisingly, their ERA has improved this year. For all their woes this year healthwise, they have the second best record in baseball.

423 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:57:40am

I was wondering if any of my fellow NYC LGF'rs were going to the screenings of OBSESSION next week? I'm going to the 2nd show on Tuesday. Would be nice to say hello.

424 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:58:12am

#414 Carridine - I ain't going down for those schmucks, period, much less quietly!

425 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 2:58:14am
426 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:00:23am

#422 JammieWearingFool - Oh I know, and Jeter's been hitting like he's gotta carry the whole team. But it was still strange seeing the line up for last night's game.

427 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:00:27am
428 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:02:23am

The Collapse of Judgment by Hugh Hewitt

As an extraordinary week draws to a close, though, you wouldn't have any sense of scale or importance if you had been watching American media or reading American commentary.

To MSM, Castro is the aging but charismatic leader of a defiant island-state, still bearded and wearing fatigues.

Hezbollah is the little terrorist organization that could hold out against the mighty IDF.

Naveed Haq, according to his lawyer, "had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and had been taking medication to help control its symptoms, which generally include drastic mood swings."

And Gibson is the anti-Semitic rant-maker and Oscar-winner in whose explosive wrath upon arrest Arianna Huffington found "a chance for reasonable people to stand up and be counted. For the sane among us to identify, separate, and condemn the extremists, the fanatics, the fundamentalists, the bigots, the hate-mongers and say 'no more.' "

We are, it seems, in danger of losing any sense of priority, of scale, of genuine importance.

429 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:03:09am

#423 NoSubmission - I'd love to, but as I indicated before, I'm leaving NYC (after 34 straight years of living in Manhattan, it's my hometown, sigh) on Tuesday! Glad another NYCer has joined LGF to take my place here in the City.

430 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:04:54am
431 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:05:33am

AZ has arrested 2 men in the 35? shootings out there. No descriptions and no names. Wonder why?

432 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:07:42am

#428 christheprofessor - morning Chris, how are ya today?
That was a nice piece you quoted. Of course, the LLL since AT LEAST 2000 has lost any sense of priority, of scale, of genuine importance. How long can the "left" hold on by it's fingernails before they become totally irrelevent to the overwhelming majority of Americans?

433 nuke gingrich  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:08:09am

Old Dogs and New Tricks
Bubba's new squeeze

434 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:11:09am

#431 BenZacharia - "AZ has arrested 2 men in the 35? shootings out there" - What? I mean I know Arizona and all but what's the "35" and do you have a link?

435 RedPepper  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:12:23am

AI: " ... O'Reilly's show last night?!? Bill was not on but that other guy (forget his name)... "

I think you are referring to ex-congressman John Kasich ?

436 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:13:35am

#432 realwest

Good morning... Ready for the move? I guess it's just around the corner...

I liked the piece myself. I'm looking for one I bookmarked that may also be relevant, but can't find it...

437 Carridine  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:15:31am

#424- West, 1ea., Real: THATS what I wanna hear!

Great! No way!

:D

438 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:15:38am

realwest

35 victims

No link, on NBC.

439 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:16:32am
440 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:17:17am

Not what I was looking for but interesting nonetheless:

Freedom of speech is being surpressed by political correctness.

(not that folks here don't already realize this)

441 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:19:01am

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No more Morrows.

“How does it make you feel to be firing artillery into Lebanon that is killing innocent civilians?” Ann Curry, in her other interviews for NBC, has been similarly incredulous at the existence of civilian casualties in war.

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[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

442 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:19:25am
443 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:20:09am

Well my #408 didn't get any kind of reply, but maybe this will:

AOL to Reduce Work Force Within 6 Months
NEW YORK - AOL will shed as much as a quarter of its global work force within six months as the company seeks more than $1 billion in savings to offset its decision to give more services away for free.

Some employees in Europe will still have jobs but with a different company as AOL looks to sell its Internet access businesses there. But in general, massive layoffs are expected as AOL stops actively marketing its dial-up services in the United States and reduces its need for customer-support centers.

AOL will no longer produce and distribute trial discs that often come unsolicited in mailboxes and magazines. Employees who do those jobs will likely get pink slips.

Nor will AOL get as many customer-service calls, because live support is available only to paying subscribers, many of whom will cancel and accept AOL's offer for free e-mail and software. AOL will likely shed jobs there, too.

All told, the Time Warner Inc. unit formerly known as America Online expects to drop as many as 5,000 employees from its payroll, out of a global work force of 19,000.
Call it the human cost of AOL's bid to boost online advertising and prevent an erosion of potential eyeballs to rivals like Yahoo Inc., Google Inc. and Microsoft Corp.

"It sounds like the first shoe's falling," said David Hallerman, a senior analyst with research company eMarketer Inc. "It's clear that's part of a large savings that AOL is going to have to go through. The biggest cost in any business is employees."

AOL currently employs about 5,000 in northern Virginia where the company has its headquarters. About 3,500 are in Europe, including 3,000 in the access businesses up for sale. Another 4,000 work elsewhere in the United States, mainly in call centers in Oklahoma City, Ogden, Utah, and Tucson, Ariz., as well as offices in New York and Silicon Valley.

[all emphasis realwest]
[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]

444 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:20:28am

#425, AI

The most important part of Henniger's article, it seems to me, is his conclusion that the daily display of the horrors of war and associated atrocities is desensitizing, and dulls our sense of moral outrage.

(Unfortunately, in order to win this war, we're probably going to need some desensitization. But I hope the desensitization doesn't come at the expense of resolve. I have confidence, though, in the ability and desire of the enemy to provoke us to action that that won't happen...)

445 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:21:33am

# 440 ctp

As I have said on here many a time, forget Islamism - PC and related things will be our downfall if not contained.

446 Carridine  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:21:35am

Realwest, Infidel: other than regular study at THIS clearinghouse, and our personal efforts blogging, and sending Press Releases to counter what we can, and publicizing captured video/audio of terrorist-thugs and their enablers, and publicly confronting the racist/defeatists among Americans when and where we can...


...WHAT CAN WE DO
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447 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:21:37am

We had an LGF Galveston Hurricane thread and I missed it?

448 salt1907  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:21:38am

This post contains false information. Hezbollah's Director of Media Relations is a team effort at the New York Times.

449 nagasaki_hata  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:23:59am

More PR for them here--

[Link: crescentandcross.com...]

450 formercorpsman  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:24:43am

The same group that killed 241 of our marines.

451 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:25:41am

Ed of many names

re: Hurricane thread

Sucks doesn't it?

Bad week for you. Chris dies, predictions of this seasons storms cut by 40%+.

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452 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:25:54am
453 Goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:27:03am

Good morning, Lizards!

Remember that each of us is a voice of reason in our communities. We must speak up against the nonsense spouted by the well-intentioned but misinformed; they are the easiest to correct because they are good-hearted. It's the frothing moonbats that cannot be reasoned with.

I'm doing my part with the next generation.

454 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:27:27am

#445 Mike C.

Yes, PC is the mechanism by which individuality and individual strengths are stifled and by which certain groups seek to control and make acceptable certain thoughts. Scary stuff...

455 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:28:39am

Good Morning folks

456 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:28:45am

#451 BenZ

re: Hurricane thread

Sucks doesn't it?

Well, it certainly doesn't blow... ;)

457 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:29:45am
458 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:31:17am

OK, this time, after a brief recovery last night, when Tropical Depression Chris briefly woke up, and asked for a glass of ice water, and was also given some clear chicken broth, this time it appears Chris really is pining for the fjords

459 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:32:26am

Good Morning Troop !

58 degrees here on the mountain this AM.
Supposed to get up to 76 by this afternoon.

I'm still looking for an LGFer from the southwest Montana area around Dillon.

460 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:33:45am

#453 Goddessoftheclassroom - Morning back atcha!
How are you today?

461 Carridine  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:34:10am

#452- Infidel:

"Was the lack of response on the people's part the result of the nanny state making them all impotent and thinking that this is something the state should take care of?!?

Abdication of responsibility by the people..."

Yes, at least thats what I think, and Mark Steyn agrees with me...

You can READ about 'rugged self-reliance', but being on the dole, putting your head down and shuffling lockstep with herds of fellow nanny-staters DOES INDUCE a mind-set of "this is a government problem', even as (he/she) is being stabbed to death near the escalator, in full view of everybody!

'self-reliance' comes to mean, "I'll stand in line myself to get my own dole money this week!"

462 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:35:40am

Carridine

With the conversion of the econ to fiat, and the bread and circus governments, even a 1776 isn't possible. Think 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire', not being a pessimist. Ardent student of world history from the 'cradle' of civilization to its' grave.

I'm as much of a pessimist realist as Churchill was in the '30s. At least by '39 the free leaders of the world knew that a showdown was inevitable. That's why military stop loss measures were instituted in 1940. Todays leaders, including Israel, think that peaceful co-existence with islam and other totalitarian ideologies is possible. Oh yeah, and Putin's a nice guy too.

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463 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:36:15am
464 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:36:33am

#459 USMC RECON - Morning RECON! 58 dgrees?! Sounds like heavan! Didja get a good run in today?

465 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:37:01am

The eliminators: eugenics by default by Chuck Colson

I guess we'll never learn from history...

466 red meat conservative  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:37:36am

This is not turning out to be a good day in Israel. I have detailed all of the casualty numbers here

467 RedPepper  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:38:05am

#452; How the Vikings have fallen! When did they fall so in love with authority ...

468 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:38:22am

#464 realwest,
Good Morning, Yep I ran my 5 miles this AM . Ajax and I are back in the groove.

469 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:39:14am
470 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:39:19am

Good Morning LGF Friends !

Mom's a Recruit

The Arizona Daily Star August 02, 2006

When Laurie-Ann Fuca told loved ones she was planning to become a Soldier, some doubled over and laughed until their stomachs hurt.

They hooted that she'd never pass the physical at her age, that she'd wilt without luxuries like manicures and martinis.

No one's laughing now at the 41-year-old Tucson soccer mom, who is making history as the first Arizona woman to join the Army past her 40th birthday.

The mother of four leaves for boot camp Monday, three weeks after her eldest son, a 19-year-old Soldier, was sent to Iraq.

Until recently, the scenario would have been impossible. But the Army recently raised its maximum recruiting age to 42.

Fuca is one of a handful of older women nationwide now following their sons or daughters into the service, said Douglas Smith, a spokesman for Army recruiting headquarters at Fort Knox, Ky.

GO MAMA !

471 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:40:53am

#436 christheprofessor "Ready for the move?"
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, whew, hahahahah - NOT EVEN FRICKIN' CLOSE! But thanks for giving me a big chuckle to start the day!

472 Carridine  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:41:15am

#462- BenZach: Thank you, Sir...

(thoughtful pause...)

473 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:41:20am
474 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:41:42am

It's 82 degrees here, high of 93 expected today...

475 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:42:38am

#471 realwest

Are you moving to somewhere wonderful?

476 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:43:29am

Carridine

cont'd

Since alot of people here are Christians, I'll throw this in.

The Bible says a 200 million man army will be coming from the east, scholars say China.

So Christians, where does this army gets its' funding?

Think about it the next time you go to Wally Mart, and get back with an answer.

Krushev said "They will sell us the rope which will use to hang them". Talkin' 'bout US folks.

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477 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:44:02am

#468 USMC RECON - Glad to hear you and Ajax are back in the groove. How is Joia and her family, especially her dad, making out?

478 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:45:15am

Good Morning One and All!

Happy beautiful bright sunny Friday to my American Infidel neighbor!

You are on fire this morning! LOL.
Good, good stuff; your articles and your comments/analysis!

479 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:45:43am

Golden Jay checkin' [back] in...

HELLO EVERYBODY!

480 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:46:02am
481 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:47:36am

realwest

Devon is up and about with his new knee. He starts work on the first of Sept.

LaTisha is working and they call me or I call them a couple of times a week.
Joia is starting school in Sept.and is really excited. I'm gping down over the Labor Day weekend for a visit.

482 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:48:13am

#475 mama winger - Yes Ma'am I surely am - Charlotte, North Carolina! Mom's moving in with me (from her crappy retirement home) into a beautiful 2 bed, 2 full bath 1320s ft apartment in an excellent location!
Charlotte is truly beautiful and the people are genuinely friendly and helpful.
Sort of closing the circle here: I was born in Wilmington, North Carolina!

483 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:48:57am

115 degrees today in Baghdad, 116 in Basrah. Under a cloudless sky.
95 degrees in Kabul.

God bless and keep our soldiers.

484 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:49:41am
American Infidel 8/4/2006 05:36AM PDT
Muslims team up with Marxists for D.C. protest
Massive 'emergency' rally on 'predicament' of Islamic people abroad and at home'

A radical anti-war coalition is joining forces with a U.S. Islamic lobby organization to stage a demonstration in front of the White House to protest "the current predicament of Muslims abroad and at home."

A.N.S.W.E.R., a coalition led by socialist and communist activists, and Muslim American Society's Freedom Foundation are co-sponsoring the "National Emergency March" Aug. 12 at Lafayette Park at 12 noon

David horowitz warned us years ago in his book....Unholy Alliance..Radical Islam and the American Left....Your right many have warned us for years.

485 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:50:01am

Is that emblem/logo in the upper left corner a gun, the world, and allah?

I wonder who they use for their clever graphic art?

486 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:50:16am

ADDENDUM to my #482 and I want to add that several NC Lizardroids have been extremely gracious and helpful both with finding a place and with helping us move in and "get settled".

487 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:50:45am

#482 realwest

You were born in a fine town...

488 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:51:44am

#482 realwest

WOW! That sounds amazing! I love North Carolina and its wonderful people. That is quite the change from NY, eh? Best wishes on your new adventure!


They have internet there, right? :)

489 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:52:16am

#487 christheprofessor - and a GREAT state!

490 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:53:20am

#429 realwest

You're leaving NY? I often think about leaving too. I've been here all my life and still fantasize about living in a smaller quieter place. My line of work keeps me here. Good luck with your move! Hope you're going somewhere nice.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the OBSESSION screening even though I've already seen it on google. I want to show my support and see who attends. I wonder if there'll be any 'peace' death to america protests.

491 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:53:42am

#488 mama winger

Um, yes we do.. ;) (But it's hamster-in-a-wheel powered...)

492 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:54:47am

A few listings that would appear in the Palestinian yellow pages:

Death Cult Day Camp - fun for kidz!
Effigy Warehouse
Refrigerated corpses 4U
Media Relations

493 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:55:04am

#491 ctp

Well you're way ahead of us here in Wisconsin. Ours is powered by beer.

494 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:55:32am

#488 mama winger -" They have internet there, right? :) " LOL! Good thing you added the smiley face! Actually I'm gonna wind up, for better or worse, with TimeWarner broadband and Earthlink ISP (same as I have in NYC) so I don'tlose my e-mail addy - which I've had for like 9 years now and just the thought of changing it, and all the folks I'd have to notify, gives me the creeps!

495 Manker  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:55:49am

Just a question

What are Israel's options when if another Egyptian war comes about

'Scrap peace deal with Israel'

496 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:56:40am

#481 Good Morning USMC RECON ~

I'm going down over the Labor Day weekend for a visit.

Glad to hear that ~ you're doing some mighty good work.

497 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:57:49am

#495 Manker - only option: destroy Egypt; wipe out it's entire infrastructure, military etc. and put 'em back in the stone age where they (or at least the Muslim Brotherhood) are happiest.

498 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:58:24am

#493 mama winger

Hmmmm. Trying to figure that one out...

I guess one could spin the wheel, after having consumed the beer (sorta like writing in the snow)...

499 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:59:48am
500 Manker  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 3:59:57am

#497 realwest

I meant more on the tactical level

501 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:00:03am

#485 FrogMarch:

Is that emblem/logo in the upper left corner a gun, the world, and allah?

I wonder who they use for their clever graphic art?

someone who evidently didn't completely understand the brief:

Hezb'all is not a group which wants kill infidels and take over the world in the name of allah...

Oh, ok, I see.

He did understand.

502 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:00:31am
503 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:00:38am

#481 USMC RECON - All great, great news. Thanks a lot for making me feel good this morning. Have fun on Labor Day? Are ya taking Ajax with you?

504 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:00:58am

#498 CTP

Almost. Think 'gaseous emissions'.

But I like your idea too. . . . . Wonder if I could make any money stealing your intellectual property . . . . . .

505 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:02:12am

#500 Manker - oh, sorry. Haven't given the tactical situation any real thought.

506 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:03:10am

realwest, Ajax doesn't fly well. He stays home and watches the house.

507 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:03:19am
508 RedPepper  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:03:42am

AI: Just curious; are you familiar with the play, Marat/Sade, by Peter Weiss?

509 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:04:05am

#499 AI

There's more here -- some of the chapters are in pdf format and downloadable -- I was just looking at chapter 1. I may have to the book, looks fascinating...

#504 mama winger

I don't think we could get a patent on it. It's essentially a water-wheel, but with a different source of fuel... ;)

510 BrunoMitchell  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:04:54am

So, they both have the same Yahoo! email address but different phone numbers? Dudes, it's a FREE account!

511 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:05:03am

#141 Beagle ~

“How many innocent children are you willing to accept to defeat Hezb’allah? Give me a number.”

How many are there south of the Litani River?

Sometimes life is a Darwinian test. It's always a pop quiz and nobody knows the right answers in advance. But if you ignore leaflets dropping from the sky and the people dropping them have air supremacy, you flunk. The border to north of the Litani is a decent, but not taxing, bike ride.

Tell me about the wonders of martyrdom again. I never tire of hearing that one.

Yeah, simply wondrous.

512 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:06:07am

#506 USMC RECON -that's sort of a shame, but maybe a blessing, too. I know that Joia and Ajax would go nuts seeing each other again, but then have to go through the separation anxiety. Oh well.
I'm glad your going - maybe you should take a nice picture of Ajax to give Joia?

513 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:06:48am
514 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:09:58am

# 485 Frog March

The blob at the bottom actually says "Hiz b'Allah" in a distorted Arabic script.

515 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:09:59am

I just got word from my son that a soldier in a neighboring unit with him has been killed in Iraq - approximately one week before he was due to come home. Please take a moment and pay your respects if you feel so inclined.

Statement by Maj. Gen. Albert H. Wilkening on the death of Wisconsin Army National Guard Sergeant Ryan D. Jopek

Words fail to convey the depth of my sorrow following the death of Sergeant Ryan Jopek in Iraq early Wednesday. Ryan was one of Wisconsin’s very finest and served his nation with bravery, distinction and valor. He was on his final convoy security mission in Iraq after serving overseas for the past 50 weeks with his unit, 2nd Battalion, 127th Infantry.


My deepest sympathy goes to Ryan’s entire family and especially to his father, Staff Sergeant Brian Jopek, who served a year in Iraq with a different Wisconsin Army National Guard unit in 2004. I want the Jopek family to know just how proud Wisconsin is of Ryan, how grateful we are for his service, and how saddened all of us are for his tragic loss. I pledge to the Jopek family all the support of the Wisconsin National Guard we can provide them during the difficult days ahead.


In tribute to Sergeant Ryan D. Jopek I am ordering the flags at all Wisconsin National Guard armories, air bases and other facilities lowered to half-staff beginning Sunday morning and continuing until after his funeral service.


On behalf of all 9,900 of Sergeant Jopek’s fellow soldiers and airmen of Wisconsin’s National Guard, I salute this fallen hero and pray for the safe and speedy return of 2nd Battalion, 127th Infantry, and the continued safety of all 2,500 soldiers and airmen of the Wisconsin National Guard who are still serving overseas in harm’s way.


Major General Albert H. Wilkening
The Adjutant General of Wisconsin


God welcome you into eternal rest, Ryan. Thank you for your service.

516 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:10:23am

Unh, wtf.

Mebbe i'll go watch some paint dry...

517 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:11:52am

This is my worst nightmare - that just before he is scheduled to come home, something horrible would happen to my son. The thought is almost more than I can bear.

518 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:12:09am
519 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:14:09am
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS THE DICTATORSHIP OF VIRTUE

I'm not very PC.

Does this mean I'm not particularly virtuous?

/scratchin' me head

520 Goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:14:23am

realwest

While I didn't know you were from the South, I'm not surprised because you're such a gentleman!

521 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:14:42am

mama winger ~

Oh my. Tragic.

Prayers for the family and for the safety of all who are dear to us.

522 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:14:56am

#516 Golden Jerusalem - Watch paint dry?! Aren't you working today? d'oh, never mind, it's the Sabbath today isn't it.
Well, you could always watch license plates rust!

How are you today, my friend?

523 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:16:18am
524 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:16:28am

#509 christheprofessor ~

Thank you for that, I just sent the link to myself for later...so much to read and comprehend.

525 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:16:48am

#521 Chicago Blue

This is very hard, coming just a couple of weeks after losing another one of our Guardsman, who had arrived in Iraq just THREE DAYS prior to his being killed. He was his parents' only child.

526 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:17:07am

#520 Goddessoftheclassroom - why, thank you Ma'am! I've actually spent more than half my life in New York City, however, so whatever gentleman like qualities I have were implanted by my parents a long time ago!

527 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:18:30am
Iran-Prayers-Jannati
Tehran's substitute Friday prayers leader Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati said on Friday that support for Hizbollah is a duty

[Link: www.irna.ir...]

528 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:18:49am

Ajax? I once had a cat named Ajax. He was a big, white brute I found wandering the streets of Seattle the night Lt. Col. Oliver North came to town.

529 Goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:18:54am

#517 mamawinger

I understand that anxiety. May the Lord bless you and keep you both.

530 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:20:40am
Malaysia-OIC-Ahmadinejad
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called on members of the biggest Islamic body here Thursday to react to Israel's atrocities in Lebanon and Palestine by isolating the Zionist regime and its supporters.


Addressing the emergency summit of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), Ahmadinejad suggested all regional states including Muslim countries "to discontinue their overt and covert ties with the fake Zionist regime immediately and isolate US, Britain and other governments that supported Israel."

[Link: www.irna.ir...]

531 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:20:41am

#515 mama winger

Hate to hear that... Prayers on the way up for Sargeant Jopek as well as the safe return of your son and all the others....

#518 AI

I liked Browne's defintion for PC -- it really cuts through the BS and gets right to the tyrannical core (from Ch. 1):

Political correctness is an ideology that classifies certain groups of people as victims in need of protection from criticism, and which makes believers feel that no dissent should be tolerated.

532 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:21:06am

realwest,
Once the family is situated, I'm going to get them a Rottie puppy. It will be good for them and it will make Joia very happy .
When they were still with me ,Joia and I went puppy shopping at a couple of breeders and she has already picked a name for "Her" dog. " Bear"

533 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:21:35am

Good Morning.

534 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:21:43am

#522 realwest:

How are you today, my friend?

Yea, not too bad.

Just got back from lunch at the house of a friend's folks and I'm in that dead zone in the middle of Friday where it's damn hot and you're feelin' kinda sleepy.

plus the wine I had at lunch :)

Should have a good evening ahead.

How are you, guy?

535 Goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:21:44am

#526 realwest

Once from the South, ALWAYS from the South!

To be a Virginian [insert "Southener"]
either by Birth,
Marriage, Adoption,
or even on
one's Mother's side
is an Introduction to
any State in the Union,
a Passport to
any Foreign Country,
and a Benediction
from Above
--Thomas Jefferson

536 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:21:48am

mama winger ~

I wish there was some real comfort and peace to give to you - but know that there are prayers being said for your son.

537 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:21:48am

#529 Goddessoftheclassroom

Thank you. I appreciate that more than you know.

538 RedPepper  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:21:56am

#523 AI: "A profound meditation on the nature of revolution, on power and its abuses, means and ends, Marat/Sade is also great theater."

Think you might find it interesting.

Have to run. Later, all.

539 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:21:57am

#524 ChiBlue

You are welcome. I'm seriously considering ordering the book...

540 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:22:11am
541 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:24:01am

Good morning all from NYC... Seems a bit too humid and warm still... Did we really have the front pass through?

542 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:24:51am

#536 Chicago Blue

Thank you. As I tell myself daily, I don't know what the future holds, but I know Who holds the future. Everyday I place my son and his buddies in the hands of God.

I truly appreciate your kind thoughts.

543 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:25:06am

#534 Golden Jerusalem - Hey GJ - I'm doing ok I guess. Still have a lot of packing to do and am sorta on the cusp of melacholy - leaving my hometown-and exitement at moving into a great place in a great part of our country.

544 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:25:14am

541 tfc

was wondering the same thing about OK....

90's today and tomorrow, then back up over 100 for the whole week.

545 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:26:35am

#528 MandyManners
Ajax is a 5 yr. old male Rottwieller . He's 141 lbs of cute and cuddely.

546 el brujo  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:26:38am

At this point, with the names of the AZ suspects not available after two hours, I am ready to bet on one of the names. Care to guess?

547 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:27:28am

christheprofessor ~

I'm seriously considering ordering the book...

Good, then you can give me a book report!

I swear, if I order one more book...

548 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:27:56am

#517 mama winger - As always, prayers going up for him and for all our troops and all Israeli's too.
I have a loooong prayer list and have had for quite a while - you and he are on it and have been.

549 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:28:08am

#540 AI:

No no no, you are still virtuous it's just that you don't demand/force everyone else to be virtuous like yourself...

Actually, I'd like to demand that everybody be as virtuous as me...

:D

550 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:28:26am

544 LanceKates

It maybe sprinkled here for 30 minutes last night and it got more humid... All the weather talks about is how much cooler it is today and I think they are crazy...

Anyway Happy Friday to all...

551 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:28:51am
552 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:29:17am

I see on Powerline this morning where Charles & LGF are credited with helping to discredi Green Helmut

Woo Hoo!

553 sissyblue  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:29:38am

#37 I'll second that! Hey, when are you going to have a cable news Network?

FOX, CNN, MSNBC and LGF! Love it!

554 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:30:00am

Hello there Golden Jerusalem!

555 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:30:23am

#547 ChiBlue

I'll be happy to review it for you (should I actually order it) but I don't do book reports -- haven't since the 5th grade or so... ;)

556 shug  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:30:41am

#4

Love the logo!

funny I see an erect penis in the bottom right?

anybody else?

557 nuke gingrich  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:30:47am
558 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:30:52am

Mornin' All....

MamaWinger

Very sad news...just awful.

Please thank your son and his fellow soldiers for their duty and unrelenting commitment to their mission of keeping us safe and free from harm.

559 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:30:58am
AI........A Laugh this morning.........Jakarta, 4 August (AKI/Jakarta Post) - Muslim scholars are questioning a recent survey that suggested there is a relationship between Islam and violence in Indonesia, saying the survey was not based on a true understanding of Islamic doctrines and of economic and cultural factors in the country. According to the survey of 1,200 Muslims in 30 of Indonesia's 33 provinces, 0.1 percent of respondents admitted involvement in demolishing or burning churches constructed without official permits. Another 1.3 percent said they had committed "intimidation" of those they considered to have blasphemed Islam.

The survey, conducted by the Center for Islamic and Social Studies (PPIM), was carried out from 2001 to this year. It also found 43.5 percent of respondents said they were ready to "wage war" on threatening non-Muslim groups.
PPIM researcher Jajat Burhanudin attributed these hostile tendencies to a simplistic understanding of Islamic teachings.


War is the Koran! [Link: www.adnki.com...]

560 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:31:09am

#548 realwest

I hope God can hear your prayers all the way from Nawth Carolahna!

/ jk - really :)


(Thank you so much, from my heart.)

561 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:31:34am
562 shug  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:31:41am

Correction, make that the bottom LEFT of their logo.

It's pointing skyward..........aimed at God?

563 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:32:01am

#544 LanceKates - Morning bud! Didja hear about the Sooner's cuttng their #1 QB and an offensive lineman for taking money for doing jobs that they didn't do?
Some "boosters" go waaaay overboard with this stuff.

564 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:32:33am

Morning Lizards!

Over at NRO, there's a must-read piece by Victor Davis Hanson (as if there's any other kind by him). He's articulated what I & many of us have been feeling for the past few years, watching the world slide into madness again like the 1930s.

565 nonic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:32:40am

Message for aussiemagpie....

(I can’t stick around right now and don’t seem to be able to open my e-mail account. So if she shows up later, and anyone remembers, could you please pass on this information.)

Tom got home last night, tired but happy, about half-past midnight our time.

Many thanks and hugs and kisses to aussiemagpie from nonic.

566 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:32:42am

#558 loppyd

Please thank your son and his fellow soldiers for their duty and unrelenting commitment to their mission of keeping us safe and free from harm.

Consider it done, and thank you!

567 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:32:56am
568 3 wood  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:33:22am

Good Morning folks.

Apple to restate earnings back to 2002 due to bookeeping irregularities


Oooops.

Late Thursday, Apple Inc., maker of the ubiquitous iPod music player, said it's discovered more evidence of irregularities related to stock-option grants and warned that it may have to restate earnings back to September 2002.
The company also said it will delay filing its report for the latest quarter with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Moreover, Apple said it also will likely need to restate results to record non-cash charges for compensation expense relating to past stock-option grants.
The company added it hasn't determined the amount of the charges, and all earnings reported issued relating to periods beginning Sept. 29, 2002 should not be relied upon.

Anybody out there with Apple in your portfolio, you are in for a pounding. There's not much more you can do to put a stock into free fall than to announce that reported numbers anre nor reliable.

569 shug  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:33:27am

563 realwest

taking money for doing jobs that they didn't do?

Is that like Illegals doing jobs that Americans won't do?

570 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:33:29am

cnn banner:

An Israeli airstrike on Qaa, Lebanon, today killed 25 people in a parking lot where fruits and vegetables were stored, according to a Lebanese civil defense official.


Here we go again.

571 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:33:36am

ChiBlue,

How ya doin'?

#543 realwest:

Well, I've made some long-distance moves in my life.

They all worked out good.

I don't know a helluva lot about NC, but I think there's some nice country there.

I used ta live well further down and I loved livin' in the South. Quite an experience, coming from Denmark, as well :P

I'm sure you will too.

572 windybon  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:34:11am

Dear Mama Winger -

I am so very glad to see you posting once again. You are truly cherished here at LGF and have been greatly missed. I am so sorry to read of all the health problems you've been having, and my prayers go out on your behalf. It is also very heartening to know that you son is still well, and my prayers go on his behalf, also.

573 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:34:14am
574 got milk?  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:34:28am

Hows this for media relations

An Israeli airstrike on Qaa, Lebanon, today killed 25 people in a parking lot where fruits and vegetables were stored.
(no link yet)

It always seems to be something like baby food factory, toy store...

575 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:34:45am

#556 shug - "funny I see an erect penis in the bottom right?" um, no disrespect intended, but you may have some "issues" to work out!

;>)

576 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:35:18am
577 3 wood  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:35:33am

#517 mama winger

My prayers go out for you, your son, and all of our soldiers out there protecting us.

578 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:35:35am

# 562 shug

That's two "lems", the letter 'L' in Arabic.

579 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:35:44am

Nasrallah Declares Open War on U.S.

It was a theme that was anticipated and foreshadowed for several days in the propaganda films of Hizballah’s station Al-Manar, which early yesterday began attacking America in special film montages that included footage from Vietnam.

These films show American casualties, soldiers fleeing on helicopters and Vietnamese civilian casualties{ed: Bringing soft smiles of appreciation to Representative Murtha along with comforting visions and soft, glowing memories of days past to Senator John Kerry}.

If the Israeli’s aren’t J-Stars capable, we(the US) should supply them with 2 operational units along with sufficent crews for 24/7 operations to do nothing but monitor and provide the Israeli’s targeting data for the entire length of Syria-Lebanon border. In so far as the ’international community’{spit} is concerned, for at least the next month, Ambassador Bolton should instantly scream ‘Non!’ at even the faintest whisper or mention of ’Lebanon’ by Euro’s, Arab’s or Annan.

Instead we appear to be fiddling.

580 vxbush  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:36:16am

Can I step in and say good morning and

IT'S FRIDAY!

What a bear of a week. I've hardly been on LGF and I've got the DTs. I need an intervention, now!

581 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:36:40am

#556 shug:

funny I see an erect penis in the bottom right left?

anybody else?

ROFL

[comment withheld]

582 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:37:07am

LOOK AT THE PIC ON THE LEFT...MAHMOUD AND THE NAZI FLAG....FITS..LOL [Link: www.iranpressnews.com...]

583 Carridine  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:37:07am

Ben Zacharia/American Infidel: I see many of the shortcomings extant, today, in America. Many I've watched for years, always making efforts to let people know of the fulfillment of Jesus' promises in the Coming of the Promised One, Baha'u'llah, the Glory of God.

He doesn't come to establish a new political party, or a 'new' religion. He brings the changeless Faith of God, eternal in the past, eternal in the future, and His mission is no less than the revival and resuscitation of the whole of humankind.

Just like with Jesus, we can turn away from Him, prefer ourselves and our theories and our faith to God's, all the while telling ourselves, "What I'm doing is important, more important than some strange guy from Iran in 1844..."

Or we can turn toward Him, publicly rebuke the Hizbollah and Iran with His coming and His suffering at their hands, and His plans and His achievements in the (only to-date) World Community, and the Universal House of Justice...

...physically centered on Mount Carmel, Haifa, Israel...

...and by letting the Muslims KNOW of the Coming of the Promised One of THEIR Scriptures and Traditions, the overwhelming majority (inside the bell-curve) will ACCEPT Him, unthreatened by westerners...

...and that will help the west accept the return of our Lord Who redeems us, the Lord of Hosts promised by Ezekiel, Isaiah, Micah...

It IS PERTINENT, it IS on-thread, and the relevance of the Glory of God cannot be overstated...

584 steppingrazor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:37:30am

Mama Winger -

When is your son expected to come home? Focusing on what you're going to do to welcome him back (visualizing greeting him at the airport, which restaurant you're going to go to, etc.) might help you to restore your faith that he is coming home and make that fact more real for you. Just a suggestion.

BTW, isn't it illegal for Yahoo to give email accounts to terrorists? I'm sure they don't know anything about this, but they will have to cancel the account once they are told.

But you all may be having too much fun with that email address. I'm not going to do it.

585 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:38:21am

563 realwest

heh... yeah. putz.

turns out the company they were working at, the head of the company was hit with imbezzlement charges and the company no longer exists.

there's a rumor or two that the money that went to the players was to pay them off so they wouldn't testify.

all I know is, the QB may have done a good job, but early on last season, he was caught drinking, which is supposed to get you off the team instantly. but he started that weekend. I think that cultivated a sense of "Hey, i'm the QB for the Oklahom Sooners... I can do anything I want!"

the end result, and i haven't heard if the NCAA made its final decision, is that sooner games could go untelevised (has happened before) and/or we could go without a bowl game appearance, even if we were to be the number 1 ranked team. (also has happened.)

on a positive note, the last time this happened (that the sooners couldn't have any televised games AND no bowl game) the sooners went on a march and become unstoppable.

we're using our original QB, who we moved to Receiver. we've changed to a bit of a modified bootleg offense, which he is supposed to be good at.

if the NCAA lets bomar play in the NCAA, i'm sure some college will pick him up as a second stringer, then make him their primary QB for the 07-08 season.

586 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:38:48am

545 USMC RECON 8/4/2006 06:26AM PDT

#528 MandyManners
Ajax is a 5 yr. old male Rottwieller . He's 141 lbs of cute and cuddely.



Big dog! He outweighs me by 40 pounds.

587 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:38:55am

#573 AI

I'm printing them also... Looking forward to reading them. He seems to have put into words a lot of the thoughts I've had about the tyranny of PC for a long time...

588 shug  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:39:09am

#581

see, somebody else noticed it.
It also kind of reselbmes the guy in the green helmit. just put wire-rimmed glasses on the head

589 3 wood  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:39:20am

The jobless rate increased to 4.8%

The unemployment rate rose to 4.8% in July from 4.6% in June. This is the highest level since February.
Average hourly earnings rose 0.4% and are up 3.8% year-on-year. Economists had been expecting a 0.3% gain in earnings.
Economists have viewed the July nonfarm payroll report as critical piece of the puzzle over whether the Fed will hike rates again or pause on Aug. 8. See full story. The sluggish pace of job growth and the rise in the unemployment rate may give the Fed room to pause after 17 straight meetings with a rate increase.

This will be a real interesting Fed meeting coming up. All depends on if they see a continuation of long term inflation out there. My guess is they will stand pat on the discount rate.

590 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:39:28am

#572 windybon

Why, thank you so much for your kind words! I am glad to be back posting too. I really have missed it here. Son is in good spirits (always) and keeps 'threatening' to extend his tour if I don't get back on my feet by the time his tour is up in November. I guess that's his version of motivational speaking! I assured him he will NOT need to be gone another 6 months - I plan on being well way before than.

Nice to see you, windybon. :)

591 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:40:11am

Mama Winger

Even though the media and lefties in our country do not support the efforts of our brave and tremendous younf men and women of our armed forces, we certainly do! My sincereest condolences to the family of the fallen solider. My prayers are with you and your family as your son continues to do the good work and fight the good fight for freedom around the world and the end of Islamofascism.

Seeing that you are from WI, where in the state are you? I'm from NYC but my gf and her family are from a town just outside of Madison. Beautiful country out there!

592 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:40:12am

Cripes, not bloody again.

593 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:40:18am

These business cards are amazing. What a great thing to post. Awesome.

Here's a little clip about Lebanon: Myths and Facts.

594 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:40:21am

568 3 wood

heh.. interesting.

I guess the new commercials aren't having the effect they wanted.

(actually, with the ipod... how many different ways are they going to make and market and overprice it? mp3 players start at 50 bucks at walmart, as compared to the 200 bucks walmart has the new style ipods for.)

595 Middle-Earth  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:41:26am

#485 FrogMarch

Flag of Hezbollah

The bottom text means:
"The Islamic Resistance Movement in Lebanon".

The upper text means:
"Hezbollah will be the victor".

The green text is the name of the group — with the first letter of "Allah" reaching up to grasp a Soviet AK-47.

596 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:41:26am

563 realwest

also, it wasn't that they took money for a job they didn't do..

it is that they worked 5 hours at a simple job and were paid over 15 grand for it.

597 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:42:20am

#588 shug:

see, somebody else noticed it.
It also kind of reselbmes the guy in the green helmit. just put wire-rimmed glasses on the head

Eh, mebbe it's supposed to resemble a minaret?

:P

I'll never look at that logo the same... ever :D

598 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:42:46am

#584 steppingrazer

God willing, Little Winger should be home by Thanksgiving. He's got about 1001 projects he wants us to work on together, so I better get on my feet real quick!

599 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:44:09am

#592 Mike C.:

Cripes, not bloody again.

what's that?

/How's Beijing this evening?

600 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:44:12am

#585 lance

Hey. Not interested in restarting the Great Tying Contract Debate, but did you see the late post on the DDT yesterday to you from Bordm? He stated very succinctly what MS was doing (I couldn't recall exactly), here is what he posted:

Lance

If you're still around.

Microsoft imbedded IE into Windows 98 (before win98 it was a separate product), MS forced vendors (Compaq, HP, Dell, etc) to sign a contract stating they would not install other browsers (Netscape, Mosaic, Spry, etc) in the preinstalled software that comes with a new computer. If the vendor refused to sign the contract they could no longer sell computers with Windows preinstalled. That was the issue, MS was dictating to the vendors what software packages they were allowed to offer customers.

Just FYI, in case you missed it...

601 marjoriemoon  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:44:39am

Sorry for the OT, but just wanted to post this great link from Aish.com I received this morning.

New 2-minute film - Lebanon: Myths & Facts

[Link: www.aish.com...]

602 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:45:12am

MandyManners

Ajax is on the high side for an adult male.

That plus the fact he eats approx. 40 lbs of dog food a week.

603 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:45:44am

#591 tfc3rid

I appreciate your kindness, thank you. I am about 30 minutes due S of Milwaukee, along the lakeshore. Yes, it is very pretty here, but it's tax hell.

604 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:46:23am

Hezbullah on the Ropes

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

605 Mike C.  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:46:48am

GJ

Beijing is okay, but it's too late to put up with some things, so I'm turning in.

Mike C. out

606 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:46:59am

When you need a rocket attack on civilians.. call 1-800 54Hezbo

607 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:47:20am

Golden Jerusalem ~

I'll never look at that logo the same... ever :D

Heh, I don't ever want to see it again...anywhere.

I like Mike C. calling it a "blob".
Good one.

608 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:47:34am
609 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:48:03am

#602 USMC RECON

Rottweilers get such a bad rap. I work for a Vet, and out of all the Rotts we see, I have never known one that wasn't just a huge baby.

610 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:48:33am
Radical Islamists attack British embassy in Iran capital
Fri. 04 Aug 2006
Iran Focus: Tehran, Iran, Aug. 04 – Radical Islamists attacked the British embassy in Tehran on Friday and called for the expulsion of the British ambassador from Iran


[Link: www.iranfocus.com...]

611 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:49:43am

#596 LanceKates - Whoa! $3,000 an hour for a job they never even worked at?
Damn,why couldn't I have been born with great athetic skills! LOL!

612 shug  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:49:46am

597 golden jerusalem

some years ago a Disney artist was fired.
before he left he changed one of the spires on the Little mermaid temple, into a very erect penis.

thousands of boxes went out.
Maybe there is an angry graphic artist in the hezbo ranks. .......or maybe they're all just a bunch of dicks ( though to be accurate, the way they fight that thingie really ought to be smaller.....and quite flaccid )

PS :the dirty little mermaid box is here

613 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:50:03am

600 ctp

yup... but that still doesn't escape the fact that other browsers WERE always installed... even on 98.

early on it was AOL and netscape

later on with 98, it was just AOL.

which has its own browser in its own interface.

and, on top of it, it still didn't stop anyone from using any browser they wanted, at any time, for any reason, for free, without interfering with windows.

*shrug*

still can't confused apathy with inability.

614 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:50:30am

#610 storagemanager

Radical Islamists attack British embassy in Iran capital
Fri. 04 Aug 2006
Iran Focus: Tehran, Iran, Aug. 04 – Radical Islamists attacked the British embassy in Tehran on Friday and called for the expulsion of the British ambassador from Iran

I wonder if Tony Blair will issue a statement saying "this is not helpful"?

Good morning all Lizards!

615 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:50:46am

Endangered in Mass

When you need a rocket attack on civilians.. call 1-800 54Hezbo

Who do you call when your bunker's busted?

616 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:50:48am

#589 3 Wood

"This will be a real interesting Fed meeting coming up. All depends on if they see a continuation of long term inflation out there. My guess is they will stand pat on the discount rate."


Insightful. Now tell me something important...How are you hitting them?

617 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:51:12am

611 realwest

no, they did the work. but it was something that generally would have earned a small pittance.

it'd be akin to hiring someone to wash your car, then pay them 15 grand for it.

that's the big stink.

618 3 wood  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:51:17am

#585 Lance, #563 realwest

Didja hear about the Sooner's cuttng their #1 QB and an offensive lineman for taking money for doing jobs that they didn't do?
Some "boosters" go waaaay overboard with this stuff

One of the guys on my dorm floor in college, a football player, got paid about $200 a week by an alumni to keep alligators from infesting the football stadium.......in Illinois. That was real good money back in the 70's. I knew another guy who got a Trans Am for transfering from a different University.

I was lucky to get fed before the games.

619 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:53:00am

#615 Loppy D

That's the hook I was looking for. Nice work.

Good morning.

620 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:53:07am

#615 loppyd

Who do you call when your bunker's busted?

The morgue, for body extra's, the U.N., and the kook msm, for extra coverage of the brought in bodies.

621 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:53:41am

RECON & mama winger

A friend from another time in my life had a female Rottweiler who was anything BUT nice. I was scared sh*tless of that dog. But then again, the dog's owner did nothing to train her...

622 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:54:49am

618 3 wood

yes indeed...

if you can run fast in football gear, the world is handed to you.

if you're REAL good, you get to go pro and get paid millions to play a game.

then, with one bad hit, it ends.

and there you are, mostly forgotten, no future, with a degree in something you have no interest in (but got because it was the easiest degree to get so you could focus on football)

during your period of feeling superhuman in college and pros, you most likely wasted all your money on a too big house and a too flashy car.

now you're left with piling bills, and the occassional "Weren't you the guy that used to play for the [team]?" from the passing person, as you hobble past.

no thanks. I'll remain poor.

623 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:55:01am

#607 ChiBlue:

Heh, I don't ever want to see it again...anywhere.

Oh yea.

#612 shug:

some years ago a Disney artist was fired.
before he left he changed one of the spires on the Little mermaid temple, into a very erect penis.

thousands of boxes went out.
Maybe there is an angry graphic artist in the hezbo ranks. .......or maybe they're all just a bunch of dicks ( though to be accurate, the way they fight that thingie really ought to be smaller.....and quite flaccid )

PS :the dirty little mermaid box is here

Well, I guess it's either what you're suggesting or perhaps a case of wishful thinking on their part?

:D

/Checking link :P

624 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:55:27am

620 republic

The morgue, for body extra's, the U.N., and the kook msm, for extra coverage of the brought in bodies.

You forgot the Green Helmet! :D

625 redstateredneck  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:55:44am

shug

before he left he changed one of the spires on the Little mermaid temple, into a very erect penis.


I'm thinking that this is also in The Little Mermaid, thought it may be some other Disney feature length cartoon. There is a wedding ceremony, and the minister or judge or whatever is sporting wood.
digusting

626 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:56:01am

#613 lance

If they were installed, they were in violation of the contract MS forced them to sign, by virtue of their monopoly on PC operation systems.

Again, the case was decided against MS and overturned on a technicality that had nothing to do with the merits of the case. Then MS settled when it was remanded back for a punishment to be determined.

Clearly, MS was wrong, and the court recognized it.

627 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:56:12am

Mamma Winger

Ajax is "friendly" to people who I am friendly toward. He doesn't trust strangers and will immediately go "on guard" if someone comes up the driveway.
Anyone who is part of our "family" is under his protection. He has a good ,inate sense of who is a threat and who is not.
When he wants to ,he is very intimidating .When he is with family he is a big baby.

628 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:56:20am

Good morning all! Wow did I ever sleep in. What did I miss?

629 Goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:56:54am

#612 shug:

From your link, it suggests that the artist was fired FOR the drawing instead of leaving the drawing after being fired. Do you know which is correct?

630 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:58:20am
614 republic 8/4/2006 06:50AM PDT
#610 storagemanager

Radical Islamists attack British embassy in Iran capital
Fri. 04 Aug 2006
Iran Focus: Tehran, Iran, Aug. 04 – Radical Islamists attacked the British embassy in Tehran on Friday and called for the expulsion of the British ambassador from Iran

I wonder if Tony Blair will issue a statement saying "this is not helpful"?



Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference.
Winston Churchill

Danger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
Winston Churchill

631 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:58:22am

Endangered in Mass

That's the hook I was looking for. Nice work.

Happy to help...and good morning to you!

632 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:58:26am

#622 Lancekates

Tis better to have loved and lost...

633 redstateredneck  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:58:28am

ctp & LanceKates
OMG! Are you two still having your 'spirited discussion'? I thought yesterday you agreed to disagree!

634 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:58:37am

That Li'l Mermaid (Ariel?) is kinda sexy...

But so is Princess Jasmine...

/anime flashbacks

635 shug  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:59:06am

629 goddess

I think your statement makes more sense.
Fired from Disney......hired by Hezballah.

It all fits.

The great penis artist is also minister ( chief ghoul ) in charge of parading dead children in front of cameras

The Green Helmit guy.....unmasked

636 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 4:59:38am
637 vxbush  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:00:25am

Big dogs and I generally don't get along. I was bitten when I was six, and I haven't been comfortable around dogs yet.

Perhaps that explains why I am a cat person. Even supposedly vicious cats do not hurt me (not counting leopards, lions, etc., although I wish I could hang out with them, too).

638 3 wood  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:00:45am

#616 Endangered

Now tell me something important...How are you hitting them?

Shooting 77 to 82, depending on putts and chips. Hitting a lot of low, running draws. That works great for the tee shot, but the approach shots are running off the back of these baked out greens and getting into back bunkers and rough. Its' gotten to the point where I almost can't not hit a draw. I hit a greenside bunker flop shot the other day that I put a draw spin on. Used to be, I could not hit a draw to save my life.

How about yourself?

639 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:01:16am

#628 galloping granny - Morning to ya! You only missed about 600+ threads of insightful, significant, hilariously funny and informative comments.
Well and a few that weren't quite in those categories!

640 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:01:18am

#624 loppyd

You forgot the Green Helmet! :D

/head down in hands, can't believe I forgot the "Green Helmet"

:D

641 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:02:22am
642 so.cal.swede  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:02:47am

#637 vxbush

cats rule. here's my Jinxycat

643 shug  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:03:15am

3 wood.

go to the range and hit nothing but fades.


I play left to right ( well assuming you are a r hander too ) and when I am overcooking it, I try to fade my irons for a while and it sorts me out

644 ggt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:04:03am

Good Morning Lizards! We had some rain the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicago and the temperature is much more bearable now.

I love Rottweilers!

645 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:04:16am
646 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:04:22am

Now I have seen just about everything -

Judges in Egypt: Scrap peace deal with Israel

Egyptian judges ask government to cancel peace accord with Israel; Strike scheduled for Sunday .....

According to the judges, the US incited this attack, encourages it, and is the main beneficiary from it. They censured those trying to bring about war between Sunni and Shiites and labeled them "an agent with malicious motives." Likewise, they condemned anyone trying to provoke war between Muslims and Christians and anyone expressing doubt that an entrenched nation in the area (implying Iran) has nuclear know-how.

647 Lerxt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:05:54am

Zombie,
I'm here every day but rarely post.

Here's the info on the ISP for that IP address:

inetnum: 85.104.0.0 - 85.104.127.255
netname: TurkTelekom
descr: Turk Telekom ADSL-meteksan
country: tr
admin-c: TTBA1-RIPE
tech-c: TTBA1-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA "status:" definitions
mnt-by: as9121-mnt
source: RIPE # Filtered

role: TT Administrative Contact Role
address: Turk Telekom
address: Bilisim Aglari Dairesi
address: Aydinlikevler
address: 06103 ANKARA
phone: +90 312 313 1950
fax-no: +90 312 313 1949
e-mail: abuse@ttnet.net.tr
admin-c: BADB3-RIPE
tech-c: ZA66-RIPE
tech-c: ZA196-RIPE
tech-c: LA109-RIPE
tech-c: NO638-RIPE
nic-hdl: TTBA1-RIPE
mnt-by: AS9121-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

Notice there's an email address for reporting abuse. Might be worth dropping them a note.

648 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:06:16am

ctp

Again, the case was decided against MS and overturned on a technicality that had nothing to do with the merits of the case. Then MS settled when it was remanded back for a punishment to be determined.

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it)all it takes is a good appellate attorney to find such technicalities to overturn verdicts....

Happens every day in both civil and criminal cases. Usually the opinion that reverses the decision is very clear in stating that the merirts of the verdict are not in question...

649 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:06:53am

636 American Infidel ~

“If you attack anybody who is designated by the white media as a black leader

Another good article - thanks!

Jesse, ugh. It is the white media that still portray him as a black leader, most of my black friends and/or co-workers can't stand him speaking on their behalf.

Alrighty, work calls.

Enjoy your day Lizards!

650 grayp  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:07:05am

good morning everyone!

Golden J - I don't think you saw my question to you last nite, so I'll ask again. You posted that you went to Israel from Europe and I wanted to know where in Europe?

651 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:07:17am
636 American Infidel 8/4/2006 06:59AM PDT
Did you all happen to read Michael Reagans piece about how JUAN WILLIAMS, yes that FOXNEWS LEFTIST/LIBERAL commentator has been cast off by his LEFTIST/LIBERAL 'friends' and is receiving the treatment reserved for patriotic/conservative Americans?!?!?!?

Maybe Juan Williams will have time to think about all the times he undercut good people trying to do good work...One can hope.

652 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:07:24am

#636 American Infidel

Just keep talking LOUDLY about the hypocricy that the left has the market cornered on!

The left is insane, and I certainly hope, that the power of Good(anything not a kook leftist) wins out over the power of evil(anything that is kook leftist)!

The left would put a "bullet" in any of their own, with even one slight step out of the insane leftist kook agenda!

Remember folks, there isn't one kook leftist Democrat, who won't work to take away our 2nd Amendment rights, not one!

Look at their voting records!

653 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:08:20am

#639 realwest -

How are you feeling today? You're moving in - 3 days is it? Bet you can't wait! I think you'll love NC, though it will be a big change from NYC.

654 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:08:34am
655 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:09:20am

#650 grayp

Golden J - I don't think you saw my question to you last nite, so I'll ask again. You posted that you went to Israel from Europe and I wanted to know where in Europe?

I almost made a comment about "Danes" a few weeks ago, and GJ hasn't spoken to me since.

There's your clue.

:)

656 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:11:06am

Thousands upon thousands of Shia in Protest In Iraq....Fox news t.v. this could get ugly.

657 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:11:31am
658 vxbush  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:12:09am

so.cal.swede

Oh, lovely. Although I'm more a fan of shorthairs. I have a bombay who is growing fatter by the day. Some days she demands lots of love. This morning was like that; demanding lots of attention before I left the house.

AI

I was bitten on my chest. The physical scars are long gone; the emotional ones aren't. The ones who bark big really get to me.

659 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:12:53am

I'm thinking of moving down to the Carolina's at some point in the next few years from NYC...

My company has a regional HQ in Raleigh so that might be a place for me, any other places you fellow LGF'er recommend?

660 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:13:08am

Morning all
Watching the Pro Hezbollah demonstration taking place in Iraq. How surreal all this seems. There are literally thousands of Iraqi Shi'ites taking to the streets showing support for Hezbollah.
I just cannot get into the mindset of Muslims. They are more like pack animals comparable to dogs or wolves then they are to humans.

661 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:13:19am
662 Greg  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:14:18am

#546

---(snippet)At this point, with the names of the AZ suspects not available after two hours, I am ready to bet on one of the names. Care to guess?--

Went to Arizona Republic's website and all they mention is two guys picked up in the Baseline killings murder spree...no names or ethnicities....must be hiding somethings...could be RoPers?

663 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:14:37am

#633 RSR

No, I merely wanted to make sure that lance saw Bordm's post -- as I indicated, I'm not interested in restarting the debate...

664 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:15:01am

#644 ggt

Good Morning Lizards! We had some rain the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicago and the temperature is much more bearable now.

Good morning ggt,

Based on where you say you are, I am about 30 minutes from you, and yes, the rain, and 70 degree temps were enjoyable yesterday.

Upper 80's for today, but not as humid.

665 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:15:08am

Good morning, loppyd!

Too bad NESN doesn't have a "What If..." for last night's game.

666 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:15:27am

626 ctp

but, that has nothing to do with NOW.

the fact REMAINS . . .

i'll say it again and again and again if I must.

you can have any browser you wish, for free, at any time you want, without affecting the usage of Windows.

and even THEN... you could have any browser you wish, for free, at any time you want, without affecting the usage of Windows.

just because it is preinstalled does not mean you need to use it!
just because it is preinstalled does not mean you need to even start it up.

apathetic people hating microsoft products but still using them should not be confused with this falsehood idea that they are unable to use anything else.

they use them because they are the most popular and best for what an individual needs to do.

I was a computer tech during the windows 95 and windows 98 crossover, I had installed windows 95 and 98 on numerous systems and the microsoft preload came with AOL. it CAME with a browser in a seperate interface that was in COMPETITION with Microsoft's IE... that browser was the AOL interface browser.

it came WITH IT.

WITH..... It.

so, right off the bat, there were two browsers.

some versions of windows 98 even came with netscape. that makes 3!

plus, right off the bat, pop in a disk and you have a plethora of other browsers, and you haven't even hooked up a phone line yet.

I'm sorry CTP.... but apathy of the masses is not the fault of Microsoft.

if a person is so apathetic that they can't even double click on the AOL icon to get a different browser when they don't want to use IE, then they should be hit on the back of the head and dragged off to a seperate island for the good of the many.

but to blame microsoft for a perosn's lack of drive to download a browser, or load a browser on their own is completely silly, and in my mind ranks up with the people who blame McDonalds for making the world fat.

There's no way around it. no way around it.

that judge had preconceived notions against microsoft and its leaders... THAT is why the case was deemed to be wrong, and that is why it was turned over, reexamined and taken care of. the statements to the press were the PROOf of the preconceived notions against the big business of Microsoft.

rather than going through a SECOND case in a judicial system that listen to cases of transvestites who are suing companies for not being allowed to crossdress at work (linky), microsoft just settled out of court.

settling out of court does not mean "I am guilty" it means "It will cost me more to prove my innocence than it will to pay you all to shut up."

and.. the 'payment' by microsoft.... it was vouchers for money off of Microsoft products.

667 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:16:19am

Methinks it may be time to let the animals go at each other and we get out of the way...

I'm all for our involvement in the Middle East but this just isn't working... I don't want to abandon Iraq but I think we have to be honest and understand that political Islam is not compatiple with anything other than death.

668 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:16:19am
669 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:16:29am

633 redstate

I didn't start it today.

670 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:17:15am

Nothing to add, I just wanted to be the one to get the "666 posts" marking off the screen.

671 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:18:21am

#648 (lopps}

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it)all it takes is a good appellate attorney to find such technicalities to overturn verdicts....

Happens every day in both civil and criminal cases. Usually the opinion that reverses the decision is very clear in stating that the merirts of the verdict are not in question...

I thought about going to law school and am glad I didn't. The legal profession is supposed to be a place where justice is pursued, but it seems to me that it is often quite the opposite -- it would make me batty...

672 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:18:35am

More on the identity of "Green Helmet," courtesy of "questionmark," a commenter at IsraelInsider.com.

If you do a Google News search on "Abu Chadi" (a variant of the name Abu Shadi previously reported), the top two hits right now are to the Lebanese newspaper the Daily Star:

Not even infants are spared brutal war
Daily Star - Lebanon, Lebanon - Jul 27, 2006
... "He lived for only an hour or two," says Abu Chadi, the mortician who named the infant. ... "He is Lebanon's greatest tragedy," Abu Chadi said. ...

Rescuers: Many dead have yet to be counted
Daily Star - Lebanon, Lebanon - Jul 26, 2006
... out cars with rotting bodies inside, but can't reach them because when we try we are shot at by Israeli planes," said Civil Defense member Abu Chadi in Tyre. ...

As the old Saturday Night Live skit goes, "It's a floor wax and a dessert topping!"

673 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:18:59am

Doh! "legal profession" was supposed to be "legal system" -- no offense intented, lizard attorneys...

674 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:19:03am

Look at the things we have posted today...We are about to see the Muslim World explode...No more Islam means peace Suckers...lol

675 redstateredneck  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:19:32am

ctp

as I indicated, I'm not interested in restarting the debate...


Sorry, I didn't read up the thread. You are redeemed.
;-)

676 ggt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:19:33am

#664 republic

Good morning ggt,

Based on where you say you are, I am about 30 minutes from you, and yes, the rain, and 70 degree temps were enjoyable yesterday.

Upper 80's for today, but not as humid.

I'm in Aurora. Haven't stepped out the door this a.m. so I don't know what it is doing today. Yesterday was a nice day.

677 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:19:36am

#650 grayp - Morning to you! How are ya doing today?

678 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:20:15am

now, ctp... can we let this drop?

or are you still going to post about how microsoft is evil, because while i CAN post about it all day, I don't want to, and no one else here probably wants another day of anti-microsoft discussion.

679 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:20:41am

#661 American Infidel

But they look so normal...

I think they all look like hell most of the time.

Either the "deer in the headlights" look,

or,

They look just like someone, who is on the brink of somebody else finding out that they have really done some serious wrong, and it's going to be revealed.

The left, imo, normally look like "Bill the cat", from "Opus and Bill"

:D

680 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:20:47am

#638 3 Wood

Sounds alarmingly familiar. I was even after 5 last night.Finished bogie, double, double, double.

For some reason I started hitting my irons a club or two farther on the 6th hole. Suffice that I didn't execute the chip/flop shots I had coming back.

I too play a draw( after years of fade/ slicing). Of course I can't fade the ball now which really sucks on the dog leg right w/ tee box on the right and trouble on the the left.

681 control  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:20:48am

Offtopic: Does someone know what happened to the movie "obsession: what the war on terror is really about"? Some google censorship? Or just problems with copyright?

682 so.cal.swede  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:21:03am

#658 vxbush
he he, thanks. As a guy i guess you're supposed to like dogs, but i fire back with "meet the parents" rethoric :

You see, when you yell at a dog, his tail will go between his legs and cover his genitals...his ears will go down. A dog is very easy to break. But cat’s make you work for their affection. They don’t sell out the ways dogs do.

683 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:22:01am

#676 ggt

Yesterday was a nice day.

It was a beautiful day, and the weather was great also.

684 vxbush  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:22:20am

Oh! Crap! I meant to mention this as soon as I got in:

Driving into work this morning a car beside me had a bumper sticker from Veterans for Peace that said:

Peace is patriotic

I really wanted to vomit.

685 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:22:56am
#662 Greg 8/4/2006 07:14AM PDT
#546

---(snippet)At this point, with the names of the AZ suspects not available after two hours, I am ready to bet on one of the names. Care to guess?--

Went to Arizona Republic's website and all they mention is two guys picked up in the Baseline killings murder spree...no names or ethnicities....must be hiding somethings...could be RoPers?



I thought that too....so secret must be Muslim..lol

686 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:23:10am

{ctp}

it would make me batty...

I was batty before I started this job! :D

Seriously, I've made the decision once and for all NOT to go to law school. A lot of that decision is based on what I see on a daily basis.

687 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:23:11am

684 vxbush

they love the country enough to make sure they never have to fight for it.

and, to a liberal, that is logical.

688 ggt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:24:02am

In my experience, those who are afraid of dogs are at risk. Dogs are predators and I think they literally smell fear in others and their instincts can take over. Especially if the dog is not well trained.
Once they know you are afraid, you are hosed. Bad breeding is also a factor.

A well trained and genetically sound dog is a joy to be around. I love the big breeds, German Shepherd are my favorite. I know some well trained Dobe's that are phenomenal!

I had a Rottweiler "babysit" by infant once. I was the only one that could get near the baby.

689 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:24:05am

I realize it's early on the West coast, but I think it's time to start jumping up and down on Charles bed.

:)

690 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:24:33am

vxbush

Peace is patriotic

Those are all the rage here in MA...usually accompanied by a fading Kerry-Edwards sticker.

691 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:24:52am

Good morning.

Victor Davis Hanson thinks we're in the equivalent of 1938.

So does Mark Steyn.

Uh, happy Friday.

692 so.cal.swede  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:24:53am

#681 control

Probably too violent, showing dead bodies, etc. Google videos are very strict on not showing any offensive material as such.

693 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:25:13am

#669 lance

Don't play games, Lance. I didn't start anything -- I merely wanted you to see Bordm's post to you. I specifically stated that I wasn't interested in restarting it before presenting it, and I specifically stated afterward it was just FYI (go look at #600 if you doubt me).

You, rather than acknowledging his post, chose to start rehashing the issue. So don't play Mr. Innocent.

But since you wanted to rehash it -- Christian that you are, do you think it was acceptable that MS reps knowingly presented false information while testifying, presumably after having taken the oath?

694 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:25:56am
695 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:25:59am

#653 galloping granny and
#659 tfc3rid - Yep, I'm moving from NYC to Charlotte N.C. on this coming Tuesday (move into new apartment on Wednesday) - will be off net and e-mail from after the Dead Thread Monday until Friday the 11th at the earliest.
tfc3rid - haven't lived there yet, but spent a week apartement hunting and sightseeing around Charlotte and it's a great place - really friendly people and cosmopolitan without losing some of that small town flavor (Charlotte is actually comprised of a bunch of suburbs, most within the same county as Charlotte proper) and although I haven't lived there, some great lizards do, some of them have chosen (as have my Mom and I) to retire there. I'd strongly check it out if you're serious. I also have NO IDEA how far Charlotte is from Raliegh!

696 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:26:41am

Forget dogs....Two weeks ago I had a bear in camp....that was fun.....lucky for me he was young and still scared of humans.

697 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:26:48am

#684 vxbush

Driving into work this morning a car beside me had a bumper sticker from Veterans for Peace that said:

Peace is patriotic

So sad!

Two of my favorites,

"Peace through Superior Firepower",

and,

"Arms

not Farms,"

in the "peace symbol"

698 vxbush  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:27:23am

Yeah, I figured the bumper sticker was making the rounds. I just was surprised to see it here.

Well, I suppose I shouldn't be. It's not like I'm in Red State Central. >:(

699 grayp  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:27:30am

682 so.cal.swede

You see, when you yell at a dog, his tail will go between his legs and cover his genitals...his ears will go down. A dog is very easy to break. But cat’s make you work for their affection. They don’t sell out the ways dogs do.

Spoken by someone who never met Molly the Beagle.

mornin' realwest! I'm fine - a bit tired. I was on until about 2 am this morning. goodbye_natalie went off his meds or something. weird.

700 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:27:37am
701 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:27:45am

#655 republic:

I almost made a comment about "Danes" a few weeks ago, and GJ hasn't spoken to me since.

There's your clue.

:)

Naw dude, I ain't mad :D

Just got a little fed up at the time and had to drag out all the facts of tiny Denmark supporting the WoT way beyond its normal weight...

But ya, I'm originally from Denmark :P

702 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:27:48am

Good Morning Jammie!

I was waiting for that. :D

Did you buy your Driven cologne yet?

703 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:28:01am

#691 Occasional Reader - Hello my friend and a genuinely Happy Friday to you; it could certainly be better, but it sure as hell could be worse! How are ya today?

704 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:28:27am

#690 Loppy

"Those are all the rage here in MA...usually accompanied by a fading Kerry-Edwards sticker."...

.....which was placed over the Dean sticker and now has a Deval Patrick sticker next to it.

80-90 % chance that there is an anti-W sticker too.

705 Carridine  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:28:31am

"How much is that ghoul
in the Green Helmet?
The one with the blood on his hands?

How much is that ghoul
in the Green Helmet?
I don't think he quite understands...

I read in the blogs about
a liar,
With green hat and sad attitude
Who showed the little dead ones
to reporters
In a manner revoltingly lewd!

We don't want a whitewash or commission,
We don't need a Jimmah at all
Green Helmet takes a baby for a posing,
the body (like HIS conscience) is small!

How much is that ghoul
in the Green Helmet?
The one with the blood on his hands?
When justice comes knocking on his shoulder
He'll end in a grave in the sands..."

to the tune of 'Doggy in the Window'
Nytol. 2130 here, Friday nite bedtime for my boys and I... prayers first... for Israel, for America...

706 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:28:33am

#678 lance

Look at post #600 -- all I wanted to do was point out a post to you that I thought you had probably missed (it was the next to last post on the DDT). You got your hackles up and responded to the content rather than just acknowledging that you saw/didn't see it.

707 ggt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:28:39am

loppy

Seriously, I've made the decision once and for all NOT to go to law school. A lot of that decision is based on what I see on a daily basis.

teehee, I knew a doctor in private practice a few years ago that got his J.D. JUST SO HE COULD FIGHT the insurance companies and increase his income in his physicians practice.

He was a really, really smart guy who went to law school at night and got his J.D in less than 2 years. Don't think he bothered to take the bar exam.

708 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:29:21am
#691 Occasional Reader 8/4/2006 07:24AM PDT
Good morning.

Victor Davis Hanson thinks we're in the equivalent of 1938.

So does Mark Steyn.

Uh, happy Friday.


So do I!
Happy Friday to you too.
better yet
SHABBAT SHALOM!
:~P

709 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:29:46am

#692 so.cal. swede

Probably too violent, showing dead bodies, etc. Google videos are very strict on not showing any offensive material as such.

Google will not allow anything that might offend a muslim on Google.

Fact!

710 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:29:52am
711 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:30:05am

Very intersting article about media bias - slaughters Time

Pimping Hezbollah: Media bias done well
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

712 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:30:08am
713 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:30:34am

VDH's article is right on the money today... He sees exactly where we are...

A large portion of those living on this planet are blind at where we are and what is happening again... History is repeating itself and the usual appeasers are at it again...

Except Iran is starring Germany, Syria is its starring as its puppet (Italy) and North Korea starring as Japan.

I fear the left in power in this nation should it happen...

714 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:30:42am
OR....Good morning.

Victor Davis Hanson thinks we're in the equivalent of 1938.

So does Mark Steyn.

Uh, happy Friday


Robert Spencer at Jihad Watch as said that for a long time....Newt says it too.

715 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:30:43am

One common thread I am picking up in all of the discussion regarding the Israel/Hezbollah is that all of the Hezbollah supporters gloss over using the word Hezbollah. They always refer to it as the Lebanese people, or Lebanon. This is not by accident.
AI - Even in the fatwa statement by Sistani there is no mention of Hezbollah but rather the Lebanese people.
The Hizzies Media Relations team are certainly earning their money.

716 so.cal.swede  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:30:55am

#699 grayp
I'll admit, beagles are nice dogs.

717 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:31:00am

693 ctp

what false testimony?

the judge that made that claim never backed it up as far as I had found.

the same judge that also had a slant against the microsoft execs.

are you so quick to believe the judge out of some personal bias, or do you have the testimony and the proof that it was false?


Also, you posted Bordm's comment, I reacted to it, then you had your 626, which was inaccurate.

you started it by posting Bordm's comment.

if you had wanted to let it go, you would have left it alone.

drop it.

718 control  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:31:12am

@692 so.cal.swede

Well, in the movie I can only recall the terrible scene of the americans being dragged through falluja.

Does someone has an alternative link?

719 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:31:16am

My H fell

720 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:31:25am
721 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:31:56am

#686 lopps

So, if not law school, what are you going to do, if anything?

722 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:31:59am

#703 realwest:

How are ya today?

At a personal level, all is well. But I'm not liking a lot of what I'm seeing out in the world.

You good?

723 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:32:01am

The amorphous black blob in the Hizz logo looks like the black cat you see on Halloween decorations. Notice the ears on one end (the card's left) and the hiked up rear end.

724 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:32:33am

Morning all... nice to see that the baked apple is slightly less toasty than yesterday.

Anyhow, anyone seen Castro lately? I'm not going to be particular. Either Raul or Fidel will do. They're both MIA and the Communists are busy spinning furiously. Can you say Arafish Reloaded? I knew you could.

Oh, and the UN is up to its blame Israel tricks again. They were blaming Israel's racism for the situation in Lebanon. From MSNBC:

“What is going on is far beyond what a reasonable people consider tolerable,” said Brazilian Ambassador Jose Lindgren-Alves, one of the experts on the panel, during the special session called to address the violence in the Middle East.

“Is there not at least a tinge of racism stimulating the disproportionate response to the kidnapping of one or two soldiers that was supposedly at the origin of Israel’s actions?” Lindgren-Alves asked.

Fellow committee members Agha Shahi, a former foreign minister of Pakistan, and South African Patricia Nozipho January-Bardill agreed.

“Would Israel have resorted to the bombing of civilian infrastructure if it were fighting a non-Arab force?” Shahi asked.

If those terrorists were bombing Israel, the answer is still yes. That Israel's enemies are Arab makes no difference. Israel is doing the same thing that all nation states have done since the Treaty of Westphalia. They've defended their national sovereignty against attack from foreign states and entities.

Nary a word about the fact that Hizbullah targets Israel precisely because Israel is Jewish. That got a pass from the UN. Figures.

725 m  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:32:41am

Abusing their power by abusing their power...

BEIJING (Reuters) - Two Chinese officials cut off power to a hotel after they were not invited to its opening party and forced managers to drink spirits before they would turn the electricity back on, a state newspaper said Friday.

Funny.

"You, you drink riquor right now!"

726 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:33:06am
So, if not law school, what are you going to do, if anything?


Wha...? I mean, is there really anything else? Isn't it pretty much either law school, or work at Jiffy Lube?


/puzzled lawyer look

727 control  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:33:18am

@712 american infidels

Yes, I know that site. But on google video it was for free. It was already 6th on the google top 100 after being online for only 4 days or so. Maybe copyright has something to do with it after all.

728 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:33:26am

#708 BabbaZee

Shabat Shalom to you too Babba. How are you today?

729 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:33:31am

Send them a free fax. ;)

730 American Jewess in Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:33:40am

Mama Winger, I don't know how you deal with the anxiety -- I know I'd be a basket case if my son were in the war zone. May G-d bring your son home to you healthy and whole, and give you peace of mind until then.

731 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:33:41am

realwest

The Charlotte area is beautiful, I am a big fan... My company actually does have an office in Charlotte as well, although more of a suite as compared to the Raleigh office...

I'm seriously thinking about it a few more years down the road...

732 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:34:06am

loppyd,

I sure you see all sorts of Moonbatmobiles adorned with wacko bumperstickers.

I saw this hunk of junk in a bank parking lot on the Cape that had the requisite Kerry/Edwards sticker, but also was adorned with assorted anti-Rove and anti-Bush stuff. It looked so silly.

The car basically said to me "I'm driven by a whiny, useless PoS who can't even scrape together enough dough for a halfway decent ride, and I blame it all on Bush."

733 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:34:29am

I can't tell...are one of those numbers a fax number?

734 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:34:30am
735 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:34:44am

Endangered in Mass

.....which was placed over the Dean sticker and now has a Deval Patrick sticker next to it.

Exactly! LMAO!

736 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:34:56am

#552, unreconstructed rebel

Great that PowerLine acknowledges LGF and IsraelInsider.

(I'd like to say LGF broke this part of the story, though!)

I left a comment* at IsraelInsider that they're misattributing the photo of "Green Helmet" they put on the article though. That picture is Green Helmet in front of the ambulance in Qana, not a photo of "Abu Shadi" in Tyre in front of his refrigerated truck. I'd love to see what the mortician "Abu Shadi" that the Toronto Globe and Mail's Mark Mackinnon interviwed looks like, but I'm not aware of any photo taken in Tyre that shows "Abu Shadi".

*actually three of the same comment, whoops!

737 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:35:01am

#702 loppyd - Good morning loppyd - don't let JWF get ya depressed. You've still got like two months to go before you'll need to start feeling depressed!
Ducks and runs, walks, hobbles away!

;>p

738 ggt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:35:17am

RealWest! How are you!

all:
I love beagles too! Had a couple in my life. It's the little white tipped tails always up and wagging. Love to watch them in the field. You can follow them either by their "melodious" barking, or their white tipped tails in tall grass.

They make really good snuggle buddies on the couch too!

Can you tell I really like dogs? I think I want a Mastiff next. Or an Irish Wolfhound. Although I met a really awesome old Otterhound last summer. . . .

739 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:35:22am

#506 Recon

Ajax doesn't fly well. He stays home and watches the house.

Recon. Ajax doesn't have his jump wings yet?

Slacker. (-:

740 grayp  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:36:34am

#696 storagemanager

Forget dogs....Two weeks ago I had a bear in camp....that was fun

YIKES!

741 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:36:35am

#724 lawhawk:

What is going on is far beyond what a reasonable people consider tolerable,” said Brazilian Ambassador Jose Lindgren-Alves

Of course upper-class Brazilians are shocked, shocked, by even the possibility of racism.

/o sarcasmo

742 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:37:13am

#632 Endangered in Mass

WRONG,WRONG,WRONG !

743 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:38:01am

#726 occasional reader:

That or working at the NYT or McDonalds (not sure which is worse these days).

744 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:38:07am

#717 lance

From 3 wood's link yesterday:

A number of videotapes were submitted as evidence by Microsoft during the trial, including one that demonstrated that removing Internet Explorer from Microsoft Windows caused slowdowns and malfunctions in Windows. In the videotaped demonstration of what Microsoft vice president James Allchin's stated to be a seamless segment filmed on one PC, the plaintiff noticed that some icons mysteriously disappear and reappear on the PC's desktop, suggesting that the effects might have been falsified. [5] Allchin admitted that the blame for the tape problems lay with some of his staff "They ended up filming it -- grabbing the wrong screen shot," he said of the incident. Later, Allchin re-ran the demonstration and provided a new videotape, but in so doing Microsoft dropped the claim that Windows is slowed down when Internet Explorer is removed. Mark Murray, a Microsoft spokesperson, berated the government attorneys for "nitpicking on issues like video production." [6] Microsoft submitted a second inaccurate videotape into evidence later the same month as the first. The issue in question was how easy or hard it was for America Online users to download and install Netscape Navigator onto a Windows PC. Microsoft's videotape showed the process as being quick and easy, resulting in the Netscape icon appearing on the user's desktop. The government produced its own videotape of the same process, revealing that Microsoft's videotape had edited out a long and complex part of the procedure and that the Netscape icon wasn't placed on the desktop, requiring a user to search for it. Brad Chase, a Microsoft vice president, verified the government's tape and conceded that Microsoft's own tape was inaccurate. [7]

They submitted falsified tapes to back up their lie that removing IE slowed Windows down. When they got busted on it, they dropped the lie. Period.

745 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:38:12am

#701 Golden Jerusalem

I'm glad you're safe, and OK, and it's good to hear from you.

Naw dude, I ain't mad :D

Just got a little fed up at the time and had to drag out all the facts of tiny Denmark supporting the WoT way beyond its normal weight...

But ya, I'm originally from Denmark :P

We are both on the exact same page, as far as despising islamofascist terrorism, and I support Israel and the USA 100%.

My comment that one day, was really hammering any and every country who allow either their own citizens, or others, to carry signs stating "death to the Jews", and shouting the same.

I'm glad we're cool, because I enjoy seeing you on hear, and reading your posts.

:D

746 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:38:23am
747 m  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:38:29am

Kill a bird for Castro...

MIAMI (Reuters) - The white dove looks warily at shopkeeper Oscar Osorio as he pulls it from a cage and holds it in his hands.

"I don't think he trusts me," Osorio says while he gently rubs the dove's feathers and spreads its wings for a visitor to admire. "I think he knows what's coming."

The bird has reason to be nervous, because the illness of Cuban leader Fidel Castro has moved adherents of Santeria to appeal for divine help in hastening either Castro's demise or his recovery, depending on which side of the Florida Straits they live.

Sad.

But if you are a betting person, you can say which side of the Straits you think will win~

Castro becomes life-or-death bet on Internet

MIAMI (Reuters) - When will Fidel Castro die? If you want to, you can place your bets.

Since the Cuban president, one of the world's longest-serving leaders, announced on Monday he was handing power to his brother Raul, online wagering operations have offered action on the communist leader's fate.

BetUS.com posed the question bluntly, giving bettors a chance to pick the month, or the day of the week, that Castro will die.

"We don't want to profit on someone's death. But Castro is unique," said Christopher Bennett, media relations director for BetUS.com.

748 ggt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:38:56am

Bears? I don't know--how good are they at retrieving pheasants?

I don't think I'd want to trim a bear's nails.

749 m  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:39:27am

Lance~ Christhepro... Imma send y'all to opposite corners!

750 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:39:44am

Just a Grunt,

I wouldn't want to be the one trying to get Ajax to jump.

It took a very large Jumpmaster to boot my butt out the first time.

751 control  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:39:52am

Question: Does someone has the file of "obsession: what the war on terror is really about" and can he/she post it on youtube/google video?

752 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:40:00am

#725 m:

"You, you drink riquor right now!"

Heh...

Alternate version:

"You (mai) tai now!"

753 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:40:18am

#728 galloping granny
I am like everyone here, concerned, but confident!
Physically? FEH !
But rapidly better because the temps dropped,
we had a hell of a Tstorm last night and the temp dropped 20 degrees in one hour ~ woo hoo!

How are you?

and did I see Ploome?

PLOOOOoooOOOoOOOOoOME!

754 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:40:34am

lawhawk,

I saw a report somewhere yesterday where it indicated there are police all over the streets in Cuba, and all the local neighborhood watch people (snitches and rats) are on high alert.

No sign of either Fidel or Raul, who people fear is worse than Fidel.

I almost expect a Weekend at Bernie's type appearance for Fidel coming up.

I think he croaked and they're trying to figure out what the hell to do next knowing there will be chaos once it's official.

One of my people at work is getting married tomorrow and the second leg of her honeymoon about a week from now is in Miami. She was concerned about the situation and I told her she may well wind up being in the middle of one of the greatest celebrations in North American history if it happens while she's there. Enjoy it!

755 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:40:41am

721 ctp

So, if not law school, what are you going to do, if anything?

That is the $64,000 question, my friend. My days here are numbered....probably have about another 6 weeks to milk before the party is over. I had been considering going back to school for my masters in education, but became extremely disillusioned by the MA education system while doing the research.

In another life I was an applications analyst and that sucked the life out of me...

Can you tell I don't know what I want to do?

LOL

756 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:41:27am

#738 ggt

If you prefer dogs with brains in their heads, I would ix-nay the Irish Wolfhound idea.

757 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:41:48am

Recon that was Dustoff that said that. I know dogs are smarter then to jump out of a perfectly good airplane!

758 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:42:24am

Has anybody here seen "Gary Sinise and the Lt. Dan Band?

They are playing near me this Saturday night, and I'm going.

Just curious.

759 ggt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:43:21am

#754 jammie

almost expect a Weekend at Bernie's type appearance for Fidel coming up.

ROTFLMAO!

760 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:44:01am

Just a Grunt Sorry, Old Age.

Dustoff , Eat and die.

761 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:44:02am

#758 republic

You must be in Chicagoland?

762 Army Green since '92  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:44:09am

Evening all,

how's the dead thread today?

763 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:44:22am

Jammie

The car basically said to me "I'm driven by a whiny, useless PoS who can't even scrape together enough dough for a halfway decent ride, and I blame it all on Bush."

Or they want to project the image that they aren't into money or labels like the eeeeevil Republicans.

764 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:44:45am

#753 BabbaZee:

and the temp dropped 20 degrees in one hour

No-global cooling is the greatest threat facing our planet.

Well... that, and ManBearPig.

765 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:45:27am

#755 loppyd

Do you want(need) to work for love or money?

766 ggt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:45:28am

#756 mama

If you prefer dogs with brains in their heads, I would ix-nay the Irish Wolfhound idea.

I know, with any huntin' dog their brains are primarily in their noses. Irish Wolfhounds are very gentle tho. From what I understand they are NOT watchdogs.

767 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:45:38am

#755 lopps

I'm sure there are exceptions, but from what I have seen, Schools of Education are morasses of PC bullshit. They produce crap research with results like we shouldn't grade papers in red ink, must use green or purple, because we don't want to hurt the little dears' self-esteem. I blame a large part of our public schools' problems on them... Again, I'm sure there are exceptions, but I have no idea what schools they would be....

Somebody said to find a job you love, and you'll never work another day in your life. Good advice if one can follow it. Think it through.

As Peggy Noonan wrote, when we are in our 20s and 30s, it is a time of choices in our lives. When we are in our 40s, 50s, and beyond, we have to live with those choices.

So, choose well!

768 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:45:41am
#755 loppyd
Can you tell I don't know what I want to do?

That is the trouble with being multi-talented. Makes it very hard to choose just one thing to be when you grow up :) Also leads to a low boredom threshold.

Loppyd, I have mentioned that nice state border that is just several miles north of you more than once. I think you will find the educational system different than MA there. At least from the point of view of acquiring a Master's and teaching... (still wouldn't send my kids to public school there.)

769 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:46:12am

Non-global

(I'm still with the typo thing today)

770 soccerdad  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:46:29am

OT-- but whoa...

check out these before and after sat. photos of the Hezbos HQ city....

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

771 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:46:38am

Speaking of global warming/cooling, anybody notice the disappointment in the MSM over TS Chris dying out before reaching hurricane strength? Better luck next time.

772 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:47:57am

#718 control

Well, in the movie I can only recall the terrible scene of the americans being dragged through falluja.

That is the same Falluja that "Code Pink" gave some serious cash to the "freedom fighters" islamofascist slime there, while they were wounding and killing our soldiers!

Code Pink can F#$K off!

773 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:48:06am

737 realwest

Good Morning to you!

Yeah, your Yanks are finally one game up on my Red Sox. Not worried. Yet.

You plan on staying a Yankees fan down in NC? Can't see that playing to well for some reason.

774 ggt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:48:58am

Ok, Lizards, it's been fun, but I got shit to do.

Have a great day all!

775 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:49:15am

#766 ggt

Yes, very gentle and shy , but almost to the point of suffering from neurosis. Also majorly ginormous poops.

776 grayp  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:49:22am

#738 ggt

I love beagles too!

Molly can get in tourch with her inner Rottweiler faster than you can say 'doorbell'. Our office supply company had a guy, Kevin, who used to deliver our orders. Molly terrified him. Now they use UPS.

10 inches and 20 pounds of pure furious.

777 vxbush  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:49:26am

757 Just_A_Grunt

I know dogs are smarter then to jump out of a perfectly good airplane!

So you're saying what about Airborne fellows? They don't have the good sense G-d put into dogs?

:-)

778 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:50:37am

767 ctp

As Peggy Noonan wrote, when we are in our 20s and 30s, it is a time of choices in our lives. When we are in our 40s, 50s, and beyond, we have to live with those choices.

So, choose well!

No pressure though, right? :D

I think for now I just want a job, not a career.

779 Goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:50:38am

CtP, Loppy

I completely agree with the "schools of education" warning, especially for undergraduate. I have to tell you, though, that I grade essays in purple ink because as a student I NEVER read comments written in red because I associated the red with being "wrong," not with constuctive criticism.

Loppy, what subject are you interested in teaching? For example, there's a degee called an MATE (Master of Arts in Teaching English) which has limited PC garbage attached to it.

Another option is to see what your state's certification requirements are. You may not actually need to take a degree, just certain course. If you have expertise in an "in-demand" field, you can even get emergency certification so that you can teach while completing the requirements.

780 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:51:03am

War Analysis

In this war, what is victory and Israel fighting for that victory?

I define victory in the most absolute terms. Until Charles mandated I have only one name, I would sometimes append my LGF handle with "Believe in the Victory." In this war, real victory is three things: Hezbollah is destroyed forever as an independent terror group, Syrian-Iranian interference in Lebanese affairs ends permanently and Iran forgoes its nuclear ambitions. I believe that these items are the only achievements that can make this war worth its already terrible price. I also believe that these conditions are necessary to winning the overall war on terror that we have been fighting since 9-11.

While Israel's three day drive to the Suez canal in 1967 guaranteed Israel's survival, it was the 1973 drive into Egypt to cut off the Egyptian army in the Sinai that gave Israel what she really wanted, a peace treaty with Egypt that has lasted almost 30 years. A cold peace but peace. The first victory was spectacular in appearance but the second was spectacular in effect. 1967 left the Egyptians wanting more war; 1973 really ended the 1967 war.

The US will decide what kind of victory this is because the US is the only power that can make Israel stop much less secure the second two conditions of victory. So let us look at the victory I described above and see why it is in the US and the West's interest to see it happen and what it will take to bring about.

Hezbollah is a completely artificial Iranian-Syrian creation; it needs to ripped to shreds, Israel is best situated to do the job and has ample reasons to do so and after some initial half steps is really doing the job. Hezbollah has killed Jews and driven millions into shelters. Unlike Saddam lobbing scuds over Jordan, Hezbollah is right next to Israel, it can be attacked directly. The world may wonder why killing eight soldiers and kidnapping two others is reason to have such a big war but that is because of who we are. Israel was created to protect the Jewish people, the Jews are few in number and, to us, a few lives mean a whole helluva lot. If our trigger for war is set differently it is our absolute prerogative to set it where we want. Hezbollah has been attacking and killing Jews for years; they thought us weak and cowardly, they thought we could be terrorized and intimidated. In truth, Jews hate war more than most people, we are usually the first victims, but the kidnap-murder in the north, on the heels of Gaza incident, was the final straw. Maybe it was the billboard with the severed head facing Israel. It does not matter now because the Israeli public is 100% committed to seeing this war to wherever it goes. Hezbollah wants to be Hitler, well meet the grandsons and granddaughters of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising; and this time, WE have air superiority. The days of Jewish sheep led to slaughter are over. These are days of Jewish lions.

Victories on the battlefield can be lost in the cloakrooms of diplomacy; while I believe that Bush is committed to Israel defeating Hezbollah on the field, without a diplomatic victory, the victory in the field will be wasted if it does not seriously impact Iranian and Syrian ambitions in the region. UNSC 1559 requires Syria and Iran (all powers for that matter) to be out of Lebanon. Here is the diplomatic hole through which to drive a truck over Iran and Syria. They have no right to support Hezbollah and they have no right to interfere with Lebanese sovereignty.

The US needs to make a simple clear demand of Iran and Syria that their price in Lebanon for this war is removal of all agents from Lebanon and unocnditional recognition of Lebanese independence of Syria- this will cause Assad to have a stroke, he deserves it and is the humiliation he richly deserves for this war.

781 USMC RECON  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:51:10am

VXBUSH,
Only two things fall freom the sky;

Bird sh*t and Idiots

782 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:51:15am

loppyd,

I saw another one of these little boxes on wheels this morning that had four oversized moonbat-looking types shoehorned into it, riding about four inches off the ground, doing the bare minimum on an interstate where the average speed is at least 75.

Naturally, it too was adorned with the usualy litany of lame anti-Bush bumperstickers. I felt like putting down my window and blowing it off the road.

Something about these 'bats, it's like they're physically incapable of going over 60. Probably just fraidy cats or they just want to go slow enough for people to read their stupid stickers.

They keep driving like that and they'll be roadkill before long.

Yes, I know, wishful thinking.

Anyway, have a nice day all, my half day is up and it's time for the weekend.

783 Black George Bush  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:51:23am

Morning all!

784 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:51:34am

*shrug*

ctp..

yes, it looked like there was a video editing issue. . . does that equal "They lied!"

i'm not sold on that.

but, the second half is more important than the first.

they downloaded netscape, and it worked.

they used aol, and it worked.

I just will not accept that microsoft is the son of satan because their OS comes with explorer.

and after your comment asking me if I am getting paid by microsoft to 'shill' for them, I'm doubting that you'll ever accept anything less than that.

this, really, has always been like blaming McDonalds for making people fat.

or blaming Smith&Wesson for one of their guns being used in a crime.

blaming a big company to get easy money, because they're a big company and are likely to settle out of court than go through yet another PR nightmare.

and you believe it.

which is fine. Free Country.

785 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:51:39am

In the "Robert Fisk is the Caliphate's Whore!"
department......

Check this crap out - they are putting together a "documentary" on how biased the MSM is
IN FAVOR OF ISRAEL!

World upside down time!

There is a statement in this "discussion" that Qana is the biblical Cana

"And I just wanted to also mention the tone of the coverage, the reporters' familiarity with Israel and Israeli cities compared to Lebanon. And we see, for example, some reporters touting Tel Aviv as a city that is very familiar. It's like a city in California, they said, a very modern city. When an attack is on Nazareth, they'll call it the holy town of Nazareth, the hometown of Jesus. When there was an attack on Qana, we didn't hear that, you know, Qana has a biblical reference, as well, as being the place where Jesus made wine. There was no identity, identifying with that place. Beirut, as well, could be described as the city in California, in some sense. So that's a real problem in identifying and actually giving more sympathy"

this is a TOTAL LIE
scholars are not 100% certain WHERE biblical Cana was
but the consesus is near the Galillee in ISRAEL proper
Qana being in Lebanon, right under tyre

NOT in the friggin' galillee

[Link: www.specialtyinterests.net...]

I have buttloads of links on this one, scholars place Cana nowhere near Qana
So, they thought they'd get away with it cause the names sound the same and they assume their audience is bibletarded? ?
[Link: www.ancientsandals.com...]
[Link: www.mazzaroth.com...]
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

"discussion" about their forthcoming "documentary " follows in the link below

[Link: www.democracynow.org...]

786 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:51:40am

Tell the truth Charles. You snagged these business cards out of the "drawing for free donuts" jar at the donut shop, during a break from one on your bike rides.

/the infidels give away free donuts!

787 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:52:13am

#770 soccerdad -

Nice pics - and the blurb too

Before and after satellite images of Dahieh, Lebanon, a southern suburb of Beirut and home to Hezbollah's headquarters, show how it has dramatically deteriorated during warfare between Israel and Hezbollah. The image taken July 12, when fighting began, shows intact buildings and roads. The photo taken July 22 shows gaping holes where buildings once stood and roads in ruin.

Poor, poor Hizballah...... playing violin...

Actions have consequences. Play with matches you will sooner or later get burned. Start a war and sooner or later you will get your ass kicked.

Looking at these business cards, though, I really think they are trying to pass themselves off as an NGO, legitimatize themselves, get the same whitewash that Arafat did.

788 m  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:52:25am

Morning BGB!

789 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:52:35am

#763 loppyd

Or they want to project the image that they aren't into money or labels like the eeeeevil Republicans.

The irony of that, is that 98% of the kook leftist Dems, are millionairs, or greater!

Ned Lamont: estimated $300 million

Kerry: $billion.

There are 100 more very wealthy leftist Dems.

There isn't a leftist kook Dem, Hillary included, who aren't swimming in greenbacks, yet,

"we're for the poor and downtrodden, whom because of our leftist policies, have kept them that way, and we intend to."

How sad that some people are so lazy, or ignorant, to investigate, and find out exactly what these leftist kooks are really all about.

790 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:53:23am

#764 Occasional Reader
BIG MANBEARPIG IS RIPPING US OFF!

791 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:53:46am

768 galloping granny

Your many mentions of the state border have not gone unnoticed. The BF and I bought our condo (which we love!) less than a year ago so we're pretty firmly planted here for now.

My brother lives in NH. Kids go to public... they have been more than happy with the system so far.

792 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:53:51am

in perhaps more important news than a pissing contest about Microsoft:

Pat Robertson, finally, has proven that he isn't the conservative he's always claimed to be.

He agrees with Al Gore.

Man causes Global Warming because we drive cars.

793 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:53:52am

#777 vxbush

So you're saying what about Airborne fellows? They don't have the good sense G-d put into dogs?

Let'sput it this way. Most people and critters would not jump out of an airplane at 4000 feet with only a pair of Rosie O'Donnells' nylon knickers to control their decent to earth.
/Sudden Decleration Syndrome is a bear :-)

794 m  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:54:10am

#790 BabbaZee

Are you serial ! ? ! ? !

795 annelid[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:54:10am
796 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:54:21am

Babbazeeeeeeeee

Good morning and happy friday.

797 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:55:00am

'Morning all. TGIF.

798 grayp  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:55:07am

#756 mama winger

If you prefer dogs with brains in their heads, I would ix-nay the Irish Wolfhound idea.

Oh yeah. And their puppyhood lasts long after they've achieved their full size. I know of one that literally took apart the inside of a car in 15 minutes flat. For fun.

799 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:55:30am

#784 lance

They submitted falsified evidence in support of the lie that removing IE slowed windows down -- not just once, but at least twice.

Regardless, I really didn't want to get into this discussion again, I was just pointing out Bordm's post in case you missed it (again, it was the next to last post in the dead thread...

My apologies for getting snotty earlier...

800 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:55:37am

ooo scary black sky
more thunder cometh
get ye to the shelters

I am shutting this down till it passes

LOVE YEZ
be back after the BIG boom

801 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:56:13am

Report: Hezbollah's Christian 'shields'

WASHINGTON, August 3 (UPI) — A U.S. Christian group is accusing Hezbollah of using Christian villages in Lebanon to shield its military operations against Israel.

Christian Solidarity International said Wednesday in a news release that Hezbollah, a Shia Muslim group supported by Iran, is southern Lebanese Christian villages, such as Ain Ebel, Rmeish, Alma Alshaab and others are being used by Hezbollah terrorists for launching missile attacks.

"Hezbollah is repeating the same pattern that it practiced against Israel in 1996," says former South Lebanese Army commander, Col. Charbel Barkat. "Hezbollah is hiding among civilian populations and launching attacks behind human shields."

A Christian from the village of Ain Ebel, who is nameless because he fears retribution by Hezbollah, discovered Hezbollah guerillas were setting up a launcher to fire Katyusha rockets from the rooftop of his home. Ignoring his pleas to stop, they fired the missiles. He immediately gathered his family and fled home, which indeed was bombed and destroyed 15 minutes later by an Israeli air strike.


[Link: www.religionandspiritualityforum.com...]

802 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:56:43am

#785 BabbaZee

Babba, ALL of those friends of Satan, one day, are going to find themselves in a horrid place, that can't be comprehended by man, and they are going to be there for infinity.

Everyone will get their due, and it's not going to be good for those friends of Satan, guarenteed!

Justice

803 got milk?  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:57:08am

756 mamma

If you prefer dogs with brains in their heads, I would ix-nay the Irish Wolfhound idea

very funny, but so true.

804 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:57:36am
805 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:57:42am

795 annelid

heh. what's the word of the day?

806 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:58:14am

Analysis: Hezbollah threat at the US border?

WASHINGTON, Aug. 3 (UPI) -- As the conflict in Lebanon intensifies, U.S. official are weighing the consequences of a possible strategic shift by the Islamic extremist group Hezbollah.

U.S. officials tell United Press International that intelligence assessments indicate the group's strategic posture up till now appears designed to avoid direct confrontation with the United States.

But "whenever there's an up-tick in tension (in the Middle East) there's a concern that the posture could change," said one U.S. intelligence official authorized to speak with the media. At that point, said the official, attention switches to trying to work out what capabilities the group might have. "Capacity is what is interesting people at the moment."

Rep. Ed Royce, R-Calif., chairman of the House subcommittee on terrorism and non-proliferation, told UPI he is concerned Hezbollah might be positioning itself for an attack against the United States.

"We're seeing a pattern of activities on the border and elsewhere," he said, indicating "a renewed operational focus by Hezbollah on getting their people in over the border, between the ports of entry," because that way, U.S. authorities will not know they are in the country.

Royce said there was a rise in the number of ethnic Lebanese with Brazilian nationality apprehended at the border. "We're seeing a pattern of (Hezbollah) operatives" from Latin American countries "attempting to come into the United States," he said.

[Link: www.upi.com...]

807 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:58:43am

#794 m

Are you serial ! ? ! ? !

lol

I haven't heard that, nor said that, since like 1980!

Too funny.

808 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:59:20am

#757 Grunt.

I know dogs are smarter then to jump out of a perfectly good airplane!


LOL.... I flew in Hueys. Talk about taking your life into your own hands!
Anyone who would get into an aircraft with beer can skin and 1000 moving parts all going different directions, doesn't have his head screwed on right. (-:

809 vxbush  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:59:24am

Gotta go to a meeting. Back later, 'zards.

810 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:59:36am

#785 BabbaZee -

I had heard that one before. They aren't getting enough sympathy, we've overturned their Qana2 massacre, so they are trying really hard to get "christians" on their side with the Qana/Cana thing. Figure us "right wing Christians" here in the states are the only ones that can influence things with "outrage." Little do they know.........

I am surprised that they use Nazareth as comparison though. The research I've seen states that Nazareth did not exist at the time that Christ lived, not shown on any Roman maps and that "nazareth" is a mistranslation. I haven't had time to duplicate the research - not sure I could access all the extant Roman maps and records anyway online - but the theory is coherent enough for me to at least consider the possibility.

This whole idea of "sacred sites" other than Temple Mount is so much hog wash anyway. Smacks very closely to idol worship, at least in my humble opinon.

811 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 5:59:45am

#779 GotC

Good advice. It's a damn shame that so many schools of education (and colleges and universities in general) have become infested with the leftist/PC crapthink.

I remember your mentioning before about not reading remarks written in red. I never had a problem with it, as I always assumed that was the color that was used when grading/commenting, etc...

812 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:00:18am

How late does Charles sleep?

813 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:00:32am

m, OR, BabbaZee,

Re; the manbearpig episode. Finally got to see it a couple weeks ago. Why 'serial'? Did algore use this word?

814 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:01:12am

For Iran's part, if they are willing to create a criminal orgazanition like Hezbollah and supply it with rockets for attacks that are flagrant violations of the Geneva convention, they certainly cannot be trusted with a nuclear program that can create the most deadly weapons known to manking. The US shold announce a blockade of Iran until they agree to stop all support of Hezbollah, recall all Revolutionary Guard units from the region and agree to internationally supervised dismantlement of their nuclear program.

These are the times in which half measures now will produce oceans of bloodshed in the future. If we want conclusive results, we must take concusive action pointed directly at the persons responsible. If George W. Bush wants to win this war on terror, this is his moment to do so- the time has come to stop Iran, once and for all, to crush the Khomeini fascists like th vicious bugs they are. They are weak now, just as the price for doing nothing to Hilter kept getting steeper, the next step up with Iran may be tens of millions of deaths. For those who have not done so, read my little short story The End of the City on the Hill. Iran is as much a danger to the US as Israel, her intentions towards us are lethal; the marrying of a seventh century theocracy with 21st century nuclear weapons is an open invitiation to the end of the world as we know it. Iran's war with America began in 1979 and we have stood by and watched the monster grow; they send Bin Laden's son, in open defiance of warrants for his arrest, to rally the fascist cause against America's ally, Israel. This is an act of war, it is an extension of al Qaeda's war against the US is an open declaration of unity with a terrorist group that killed 3,000 Americans; it ought to mark the clerical regime for immediate destruction.

The oil piplines and tankers in and out of Iran are the Achilles heel of the regime. They are very weak and cannot protect these economic strategic assets. Iran is the real paper tiger, with resolve, they can be crumpled in an instant. It takes will power, leadership and determination.

The single greatest question of this pivotal moment in hisotry is will Bush rise to the challenge? I beleive he will. I believe in the vicotry; I believe in the United States as force of good in an evil world and I believe that the wise men and women who lead this nation also see the danger, know what is at stake and will act as situation warrants.

In other new, Gilad Shalit may be going on a vactation in Egypt. Details to follow.

815 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:02:08am

The main area of concern for "Hezbollah in America" to me would appear to be the Detroit/Dearborn MI area. It seems like everyone of these Lebanese "civilians" that manage to get on tv here in America have passports which show that as their address. I saw one guy yesterday who claims to have worked for GM for 30 years and now lives in Lebanon and of course had to flee. At the end of the interview he obligingly turned and picked up a young boy and lamented about his future. I think it was on NBC or ABC.

816 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:02:49am

779 Goddessoftheclassroom

To teach in Massachusetts you must have a masters of education. If you are certified, but do not have a masters you have five years to get the masters. The certification process takes roughly 1.5 years going full time, including summers. That is only certification. The dual program of certification/masters takes roughly 2.5 years.

If I wanted to teach a specific subject (U.S. History would be my choice), I would need to go back and take several undergraduate classes before I could even begin he masters program.

817 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:03:40am

#813:

Why 'serial'?

I just interpreted it as "Al Gore sounding both pretentious and stupid". Don't know if there's a more specific reason.

818 Goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:04:00am

#811 CtP

Oh, red is the ususal color for grading. It's just that I was such a superachiever that each red mark felt like a bullet wound.

Dustoff-507

That describes my big brother to a T!

He flew Hueys as part of Search and Rescue. He's retired from the Navy and now flies jets for a NetJets.

819 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:04:21am
820 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:04:25am

#708 Babba

Good.That means there will be a 1945 for the bad guys.

821 annelid[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:04:36am
822 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:04:38am

#791 loppyd

RE Condo -

Plenty of folks that live across that border travel every day down into MA to work. No reason you can't drive the opposite direction you know.

My brother lives in NH. Kids go to public... they have been more than happy with the system so far.

NH is an extremely variable state as far as educational quality goes. Highly dependent on where you live, no apparent correlation between the dollar amount spent per child per year and quality either, at least not one that indicates more $ = better education.

823 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:04:58am

lance

The comment about are you being paid to shill for MS was meant to be a joke -- I forgot the emoti-wink...

824 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:05:15am

#808 Dustoff

LOL.... I flew in Hueys. Talk about taking your life into your own hands!
Anyone who would get into an aircraft with beer can skin and 1000 moving parts all going different directions, doesn't have his head screwed on right. (-:

Hueys' and Blackhawks I could handle. Chinooks on the other hand are entirely unnerving. Inever got on one of those that wasn't leaking hydraulic somewhere and the crew chief always had a roll of duct tape handy for "emergency in flight repairs".

825 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:05:22am

#761 mama winger

You must be in Chicagoland?

I am about 2 hrs pretty much south of you.

Give or take a few.

826 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:06:20am

815 Just_A_Grunt

I think it was on NBC or ABC.

Shocking.

827 ak47pundit  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:06:29am

Gotta love that they have yahoo.com email addresses.

Knew they were a bunch of yahoos hiding behind women and children, nice to see them confirm it.

828 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:07:04am

Briefly back on topic--

Suggested addition to these business cards:

"Ask me about my refrigerated trucks"

829 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:07:06am

OOOOOOO looks like thunderthighs is going west, young man! I will risk a few more minutes....

Anyway Roger told me that it doesnt matter whether I am on or off if I'm gonna get zapped I'll get zapped either way.....

For anyone in the NY NJ CT area:
****************************************

You are invited
to attend the premier screening of

Obsession

Using images from Arab TV, rarely seen in the West, Obsession reveals an ‘insider's view' of the hatred the Radicals are teaching, their incitement of global jihad, and their goal of world domination. With the help of experts, including first-hand accounts from a former PLO terrorist, a Nazi youth commander, and the daughter of a martyred guerilla leader, the film shows, clearly, that the threat is real.

A speaker and discussion will following each screening:

Monday, August 7th

1st Screening - 6:30PM
2nd Screening - 8:45PM
Speaker: Frank Gaffney, Founder and President of the Center for Security Policy and author of "War Footing"


Tuesday, August 8th

1st Screening - 6:30PM
2nd Screening - 8:45PM
Speaker: Debra Burlingame, Co-Founder of 9/11 Families for a Safe and Strong America and Sister of Charles Burlingame, pilot of plane that was crashed by terrorists into the Pentagon

DGA Theater
110 W 57th St (btw 6th and 7th)
New York City

Cost: $10.75 per ticket

The RJC is a co-sponsor of this event.

email: newyork@rjchq.org
web: [Link: www.rjchq.org...]

830 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:07:20am
831 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:07:44am

#816 loppyd

I chucked the Public School System, my pension, my union-stick-em-ep benefits, my Masters Degree, and went to work at an entry-level position in a Veterinarian's office. Hourly - no benefits.

I do just fine economically, and my 'charges' don't flip me off either. Plus no stupid PTA meetings. :)

832 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:07:57am

annelid

Oh, and I still dislike the Yankees. :)


Yessss.

833 Goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:08:01am

#816 loppyd

Does Mass. have reciprocity with a neighboring state where it's easlier to get certified? Or do you live close enough to commute to teach in another state?

It KILLS me that potentially brilliant teachers are tied up with red tape.

834 Black George Bush  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:08:43am

#788 m
Hey m, how goes it this friday? This is a hell of a thread to start the day off with! I bet thats why people are saying lets talk with Hizballah. After all, how can you be a terrorist organization if you have buisness cards?

Its sad that we will have to kill these people, the have amazing graphics and printing talents.

835 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:08:44am

^^^JUMP JUMP JUPMING ON CHARLES' BED^^^

>

BABBA MADE PANCAKES ****MMMMMMMMMM******

836 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:09:37am

#820 Endangered in Mass
AMEN to that!

837 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:10:01am

#825 republic

I have heard Gary Sinise on WLS talk radio, talking about that concert. It sounds fun. Wish I could go. If you do, tell us about it OK?

838 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:10:42am

#786 Ward Cleaver

LOL...ya-that's how he did it. He saw those fancy yellow pimp sissy cards in the glass jar at Mohammad and Allah's Donutso Paradise..get yer raisins here...

839 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:10:45am
#835 WriterMom 8/4/2006 08:08AM PDT
^^^JUMP JUMP JUPMING ON CHARLES' BED^^^

>

BABBA MADE PANCAKES ****MMMMMMMMMM******


You want bannana, bluberry, chocolate chip (for VX Bush) or plain?

Be back in a bit....

840 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:10:54am

#745 republic:

We are both on the exact same page, as far as despising islamofascist terrorism, and I support Israel and the USA 100%.

Oh, absolutely, I know that.

The other day was just a bit of the ol' red mist, lol

/Off to nap for a bit while the heat of the day fades...

841 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:11:08am

All else being equal, I'd recommend a degree over certification. Certifications sometimes expire, while degrees never do. And degrees will typically do more to help one move up in the bureaucratic food chain, so to speak, if that is what one desires...

842 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:11:10am

#814 AG:

The comment about Shalit headed to Egypt has been in the works for some time. The Egyptians have been trying to work out a deal between Israel, Hamas and Fatah that would get Shalit transferred to Egypt while a ceasefire is worked out. Then, at some later date, Israel would consider prisoner releases and Egypt would then hand over Shalit to the Israelis.

843 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:11:37am

Question for teachers in MA.
With the passage of the health insurance act up there how does it impact teachers or was the teachers union able to get an exemption?

844 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:12:01am

#837 mamma w

I have heard Gary Sinise on WLS talk radio, talking about that concert. It sounds fun. Wish I could go. If you do, tell us about it OK?

I am going, I'm sure it will be a blast, and I most certainly will let you know.

:)

845 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:12:09am

kitten break

[Link: dailykitten.com...]

846 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:12:10am
#816 loppyd

To teach in Massachusetts you must have a masters of education. If you are certified, but do not have a masters you have five years to get the masters. The certification process takes roughly 1.5 years going full time, including summers. That is only certification. The dual program of certification/masters takes roughly 2.5 years.

It actually is a little worse than that loppyd. If you want to teach elementary/some "middle" then you must have a double degree education + something.

The year they put that into effect in MA one of my daughter's was a special ed major. All the education majors went and found themselves a second major, even though it was going to mean an entire extra year of college and another $30K or so in costs.

Then comes the clincher:

School of Ed - take Speech Class A
Something Else - take Speech Class B

And so on right down the line, through nearly all of the core classes required for the degree.

Over 2/3 of the School of Ed students that were not so close to graduation that they were grandfathered simply resigned and majored in something else.

847 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:12:11am

Mmmmmm, pancakes.

I'm kind of in a brunch mood, actually.

(Hard to find good brunch here in DC, for some reason... best brunch I've ever had was in Cophenhagen)

848 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:12:45am

#821 annelid:

Well, dislike 'em some more as they look down on the AL East from first place..

bwhahahah!

849 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:12:46am

819 rayra

suitable.

ironic since I have aikido practice tonight.

821 annelid

somewhere in storage I have an OEM Not for Resale version of NT 4.0 I got for going to some "unvailing" of 98 when I was a computer tech.

I was confused as to what purpose it was to serve in my life (the meeting or the copy of NT)

but, ahhh.... memories. heh.

(that was actually a boring meeting, but it was paid for by the company i worked for)

I've tried Linux after it was installed, its ok.

I had contemplated putting linux on my laptop, but I found out that a game I like to play would not work, and the nerd in me took over.

I still kick around the idea that my replacement laptop (when mine one day dies in the hopefully distant future) should be a Mac, just for the virus protection of a different OS. . .

we'll see. my laptop is doing great, though with the spyware and virus detectors/removers, it takes far too long to load.

but... patience is a virtue.

850 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:13:42am

#844 republic

Great! Thanks!

851 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:13:43am

#840 Golden Jerusalem


/Off to nap for a bit while the heat of the day fades...

Rest well my friend.

852 Goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:14:05am

TTFN, Lizards.

853 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:14:40am

#818 Goddess


That describes my big brother to a T!

Ahhhh, yes another ROTOR-HEAD. (-:

854 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:14:56am

#829 BabbaZee

I'm going to second NYC screening on Tues. Aug. 8th. Hoping to see other Tri-State LGF'rs there too.

855 mama winger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:15:04am

Charles is AWAKE!

:)

856 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:15:39am

822 galloping granny

Assuming I'd be teaching near the border, it would still be too far. If I had to be there at 7:45 (as is required of most of my teacher friends) I would have to leave the house around 6:15-is and I'm sorry, but that is NOT going to happen. Plus the gas would cost me a fortune.

857 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:15:57am

#810 galloping granny
and
#802 republic
Agreed~ with both posts

love ya Loppy

Gotta go be back in about an hour

858 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:16:22am
#831 mama winger

I chucked the Public School System, my pension, my union-stick-em-ep benefits, my Masters Degree, and went to work at an entry-level position in a Veterinarian's office. Hourly - no benefits.

I hear you there. And if you really want to teach there are plenty of places out there to do that without jumping through all these loops. Tutoring pays something on the order of $20 an hour most places.

859 nigella  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:16:24am

I know this is probably off topic if there is one at this point, but did any of you see the huge pro-hezzbolah march in Iraq today .It made me heart-sick to hear them shouting death to America along with death to Israel. It was arranged by that fat piece of s..t al-sadr.The Iraq government gave permission for it. The are running scared of al-sadr. Am I the only one who thinks we should take this guy out?We could still do it if we locked down Bagdad first and took him out. Martial law for awhile would do it as they would soon forget the little bastard. Just saying....

860 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:16:31am

846 gallping

here in OK, i've been looking at teaching degrees.

here it is the opposite.. they have elementary ed degrees, and the high school ed degrees, which are by focus (Science, Math or English)

as sick as it sounds, I've been thinking about doing the english one.

this coming from someone who refused to read Tom Sawyer in school because they were going to MAKE me read it, which I found to be stupid.

and, as much as I love Mark Twain and his twists on the english language.. I still have never read tom sawyer in its entirety.

861 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:16:57am

#845 Jewels (aka Julian)

kitten break

[Link: dailykitten.c......]

Very cute.

We have 4 newbies who are 5 weeks old tonight.

That brings our grand total of cats in the house, always, to 16.

That being said, there is never even the slightest litterbox smell, and we rarely see more than 4-5 at any given time, unless I shake the "treat" bag, in which it's often wise to just drop the bag, and run!

:D

862 cyberbot7  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:18:59am

From the Seatle Times:

Haq allegedly shot woman, then chased her up stairs, killed her

"Make no mistake, this was a hate crime," King County Prosecutor Norm Maleng said Wednesday as he announced the charges during a news conference.

Though he said there is no evidence the shooting itself was an act of terrorism, Maleng said it is inexorably linked to political events in the Middle East and to the war on terror worldwide.

"It is the seeds from which the war on terror springs," he said. "The world has gotten to be a smaller place. We feel, here at home, the tensions of military conflict on the other side of the globe."

WTF?

863 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:19:28am

#845 Jewels (aka Julian)

OT

YOu want cute? YOu've go it!

Take that!

www.cuteoverload.com

864 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:19:32am

#824 Grunt
Hueys' and Blackhawks I could handle. ChinooksSH*THOOKS on the other hand are entirely unnerving. Inever got on one of those that wasn't leaking hydraulic somewhere and the crew chief always had a roll of duct tape handy for "emergency in flight repairs".

There fixed it for you. Yes I know that bird well. BIG rule #1. Never ever approach this helo from the front when she is powering down.
Or you could become a few inches shorter.

865 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:19:34am

Just_A_Grunt

With the passage of the health insurance act up there how does it impact teachers or was the teachers union able to get an exemption?

The teachers already have primo insurance. I believe the individual districts provide the coverage, but I'm not 100% sure. The BF's father is a teacher and he has the cream of the crop.

866 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:20:13am

#742 Recon

Spoken like a true charter member of the Women Haters Club.

How's Moe,Larry and Curly?

Was it Jody Boy?

867 grayp  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:21:29am

#847 OR

(Hard to find good brunch here in DC, for some reason

I don't know if it is still the case, but The Front Page up by Dupont Circle used to have a great Sunday brunch.

868 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:23:06am

863 nosubmission

that link is now floating around the office email system.

I predict that in 10 seconds, I am going to hear a collective "AWWWWWW.."

869 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:24:17am

#862 cyberbot7

We feel, here at home, the tensions of military conflict on the other side of the globe."


"We feel, here at home, the tensions of military conflict islamofascist terrorism on the other side of the globe Seattle."

There, I fixed that for him!

870 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:25:12am

#867 grayp:

The Front Page up by Dupont Circle used to have a great Sunday brunch.

Huh, never thought of them as a brunch joint; thanks, will check it out.

Sequoia's not bad, either.

871 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:25:54am

Wait... that seattle Haq guy..

(first... they should have known he was a bad guy, you pronounce his name Hack)

they're, in a roundabout way, saying that these murders were not Haq's fault, but President Bush's!

Oh, if only he hadn't gone on his illegal war for oil!....

872 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:26:22am

Goddess

The BF and I have discussed this at length and the unoffical plan is for me to start working at my masters in a few years if I'm still interested. I may look into speech pathology as it's something that could potentially have flexible hours and the pay is excellent.

/hoping for a houseful of kiddos someday

873 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:26:51am

Why does the "cute overload" page include pictures of RATS?!

874 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:29:18am

#865 Loppy

And it costs them next to nothing.If the school is facing premium increase they can't pass some of that cost on to the teachers because of the union contract. If they try and increase co-pays (from $5 to $10) they scream bloody murder.

The globe actually did a story on a person whose company paid 100% of their health care. The person was whining how the cost of their prescriptions doubled( their $10 co pay increased to $20) The Glob's headline was of course..Insurance Company Doubles Drug Cost for Sickly Mother. In the last paragragh (spilt to the back of the metro scetion). The pharmicist mentions that $20 was still apretty good deal for $400 worth of drugs.

875 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:30:20am

MM busts Ned Lamont, big time....

876 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:31:31am

Here is your Cynthia "Cutest Little Jihadist in Congress" McKinney update.

The embattled Georgia Democrat bought cable television ads that are scheduled to air 1,175 times in a five-day period, which began yesterday, according to public filings at the Comcast Spotlight Atlanta office.
The ads are running in four different coverage zones — DeKalb County, North DeKalb, West Gwinnett County and Rockdale County — and are evenly spread across seven networks: CNN, Lifetime, the Family Channel, TV One, BET, the History Channel and the Oxygen Network. Mrs. McKinney's campaign paid $9,578 for the ads, the Associated Press reports.

I wonder why the only news outlet is CNN?

877 m  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:31:39am

Man, y'all sure are chatty this morning. I had to do a little work and come back waaaaaay behind!

#807 republic
You didn't see that on the Southpark episode with Al Bore? He kept saying "I'm serial!" At least, that's what people say on here... I thought he was saying "I'm cereal!" Cause he's a fruit loop. Or cuckooooo for cocoa puffs :D

878 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:32:46am

Loppy

"I may look into speech pathology as it's something that could potentially have flexible hours and the pay is excellent."

.....as long as Tom Menino is mayor, there are limitless opportunies at city hall.

You could be flexbul and work Saday.

879 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:32:59am

873 OR

there's no accounting for taste....

See?

Kerry describes his wife as "saucy, sexy and brilliant."

and he almost became president!

880 realwest  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:35:20am

#767 christheprofessor - Way to go Chris! Don't put too much pressure on her! LOL!

881 m  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:35:34am

#834 Black George Bush
I'm doing great~ yeaaaah Friday!

Its sad that we will have to kill these people, the have amazing graphics and printing talents.

And they are such snazzy dressers and all...

882 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:36:36am

#880 realwest

It wasn't me, I swear! It was Peggy Noonan!

883 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:37:47am

Just_A_Grunt

Oxygen Network.

I'd rather chew tinfoil than watch anything on that network.

884 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:38:22am

#879 Lance Kates

Kerry describes his wife as "saucy, sexy and brilliant."

Translated: "wealthy, wealthy, double wealthy", and it's all miiiiiinnnnnnnneeeee, AHhahahahahhahah"

885 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:38:52am

#879 Lance

Gigalos get paid to say stuff like that.

What he was thinking was( Thurston Howell III voive) ...When she's on the sauce she thinks she's sexy and brilliant. I hope she passes out before she gets horny.

886 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:39:12am

#881 m
The caption on your picture says Hezbollah Recruits but I thought the Green Team was Hamas and the yellow jerseys were Hezbollah? I am having hard enough time keeping the players straight but if they keep changing uniforms it makes the task even harder.
And is that our buddy Al Sadr in the front row?

887 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:39:17am

#879 Lance:

I don't see CBS shilling for Kerry during the 2004 election campaign, do you? Nnnnaaaaaah.

888 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:39:48am

Endangered in Mass

and help to protect the qual of life in our neybhoods...

889 republic  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:40:42am

#877 m

You didn't see that on the Southpark episode with Al Bore? He kept saying "I'm serial!" At least, that's what people say on here... I thought he was saying "I'm cereal!" Cause he's a fruit loop. Or cuckooooo for cocoa puffs :D

My friends and I, in the early 80's, always said, "I'm serial", when someone would say, "I'm serious".

890 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:41:36am

887 OR

my goodness, sir... are you trying to imply that one of the cornerstones of modern Media would be biased in some way during an electorial campaign?

those memos were accurate I say!

*WHACK*

sorry all.... Dan Rather took my seat while I was peeing.

I... uh... took care of him.

(I am Italian, after all... whack means something TOTALLY different to us than the urban hip hop kids)

891 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:43:44am

Lance

Kerry describes his wife as "saucy, sexy and brilliant."

You mean Nurse Fuzzy Wuzzy?

892 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:44:43am

for a good laugh if you have sound:

mumbles menino on illegal dumping

893 Endangered in Mass  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:50:40am

...unless the knuckaheads are ruining things.

For the rest of LGF.. we are talking about the esteemded poet laureate of Boston, hizzzoner the Mayor ..Thomas M Menino

For a sampling of his oratory skills go to..

www.mumblesmenino.us

You won't believe this guy is a mayor of a major city. Then again it is Boston.

894 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:51:30am

891 loppyd

that's the one.

I'm afraid I'd have to drink as much as Kennedy to want to be assoaciated with someone of her intellectual level.

and i'm not that smart.

I can picture them sitting on their deck enjoying the weather, Munching on a piece of expensive melba toast with caviar and wondinering "how does the other half manage to live? those.... common folk...."

895 fraxinus americana  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:56:51am

Morning(at least whats left of it) lizards

been lurking and choring this morning

loppyd "illegal dumpaahs" LOL

My sister is a teahcer in public high school, her oldest reached middle school age now he goes to perocial school.

896 shimra  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 6:59:36am

Wow. I know I'll probably be the last poster over here but congrats Charles. This is quite a coup!

Though I have to wonder if the whole MSM has these cards too. Just like they have business cards from all their friends.

897 m  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:00:57am

Hiya {Fraxinus}!

898 Bobibutu  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:02:02am

#707 "Seriously, I've made the decision once and for all NOT to go to law school. A lot of that decision is based on what I see on a daily basis."

Make decisions like that on who you are vs. what you see.

Lots of [bigoted word]s going to law school now ... if we think the ACLU is a problem ... stand by.

899 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:02:40am

Ok. lunchtime.

bbiab

900 fraxinus americana  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:07:49am

{m}! been just missing you in the afternoons.

been very busy up here. you know w/ the weather and all I've had to take the kids to the pool or swimming hole all week. Such a pain in the a$$ to have to hang by the pool, having squirt gun fights, eating popsicles, swiiming. Life just sucks ;-)

901 Northpaw  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:09:21am

Rush just mentioned that he saw these cards on "a blog".

902 SlothB77  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:10:51am

i heard rush. by now these could be halfway across the blogosphere, so it might be LGF, but could be something else. they prolly got it from lgf.

903 fraxinus americana  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:10:55am

Northpaw
You most get the feed a few seconds before my local station.

904 fraxinus americana  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:13:10am

most = must PIMF

Rush does lurk on LGF he's talked about it in the past.

905 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:13:54am

Hi, Rush!

906 fraxinus americana  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:14:41am

sure i finally get a chance to post on the DDT an every 1 is gone to lunch )-:

907 loppyd  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:14:52am

Mega Dittos from North of Boston, Rush!

908 Roger  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:16:34am

Rush reads LGF!

/Almost certain of it. Blogs are too new to be included in referencing etiquette?

909 fraxinus americana  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:19:17am

loppyd i read you went to the Vineyard for vacation. how was it? still expensive? The 2 times I've been there luckely I had a place to stay w/ friends of friends.

910 Obi-wan  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:51:59am

{LIZARDS}!

What have I missed?

911 redstateredneck  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:52:35am

Hollah!
What are y'all doin'? I've been busy this morning trying to get out of here early today.

912 fraxinus americana  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:56:18am

AAHH!

Obi-wan red yous woke me up.

feel asleep waiting for people to get back from lunch.

913 Obi-wan  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:56:45am

{redstateredneck}

It looks like everyone else is out to lunch.

914 fraxinus americana  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:57:31am

Are ya'll listening to Rush today?

915 redstateredneck  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:57:32am

Well, wake up {frax} and get with it.

916 Obi-wan  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 7:57:40am

#912 frax

Whassup, home boy?

917 fraxinus americana  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 8:02:30am

{red} obi5

Whassup, home boy stay at home dad?

Nothing much finally some real rain to knock the humidity ou tof the air.

918 Obi-wan  Fri, Aug 4, 2006 8:06:30am

#917 frax

Lightning must have hit your space bar! LOL

919