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Directed By Green Helmet Guy

Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 7:57:54 am PDT

Conclusive proof that the photographs from Qana were cynically staged, as “Green Helmet” directs cameramen in a video from German TV (with English subtitles). They actually take the body of a child out of the ambulance, transfer it from the light stretcher used in the ambulance to the heavy duty gurney used in the rescue operation (to create the impression that it has just arrived from the bombed area), uncover it, and pose it for photographs.

UPDATE at 8/10/06 8:18:53 am:

For more on this ghoulish manipulation of the media, see Newsbusters and Hot Air.

In the battle to control the information coming out of Lebanon, Hizballah has definitely got the media on its side. But for the first time, thanks to Adnan Hajj and his lack of Photoshop skill, the media are being held to account for allowing themselves to be used by a terrorist group.

UPDATE at 8/10/06 8:27:27 am:

This is a good time to point out AP’s statement about allegations the Qana photographs were stage-managed by Hizballah (hat tip: Geepers). From AP senior vice president and executive editor Kathleen Carroll:

“It’s hard to imagine how someone sitting in an air-conditioned office or broadcast studio many thousands of miles from the scene can decide what occurred on the ground with any degree of accuracy,” said Kathleen Carroll, AP’s senior vice president and executive editor.

Carroll said in addition to personally speaking with photo editors, “I also know from 30 years of experience in this business that you can’t get competitive journalists to participate in the kind of (staging) experience that is being described.”

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1 ggt  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:00:13am

This going to be a big comment day on LGF --and I won't be here.

2 Carridine  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:01:49am

I am gonna like NAILING GreenHelmet! What a callous, gutless ghoul!

3 ddd  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:02:48am

Do Muslim Lie?

4 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:02:53am

Gee, I hope this doesn't upset the sniveling little shits over at the George Soros-funded hate site Media Matters.

5 joshlbetts  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:03:31am

It's time for the idf to drop the hammer.

6 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:04:25am

AWESOME! I just said in the other thread that I hope this gets put right up on the front page.

Does this mean I'm all-powerful?

*gasp*

AM I KARL ROVE?

7 ronaldusmagnus  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:04:35am

Thank you Charles for being on the front lines of exposing these ghoulish propagandists.

8 Beagle  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:04:45am

This is a Rovian conspiracy to distract the sheeple from the faked photos controversy broken by LGF.

/Er, what?

9 davesax  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:04:54am

Think is will convince Jefferson Morley?

10 popskull  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:05:08am

The staged-reporting story is snowballing as its own story now...this is terrific!

11 Derek  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:05:28am

Unbelievable.

The bigger question is this:

Who's going to direct the footage when Green Helmet Guy gets an Apache hellfire up the ass?

12 Glen Wishard  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:05:35am

Great. Now they're going to invite the son of a bitch to Cannes.

13 vxbush  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:05:50am

I love incontrovertible evidence.

14 Orbit Rain  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:05:50am

soooooo....GHG should be on someone's hitlist by now...gl GHG...heh heh

have a nice day!

:D

15 zulubaby  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:06:04am

It is devastating, how the media is so breathtakingly evil, and how the world is so blind to it.

Charles, you are remarkable.

16 Hucbald  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:06:07am

I'm shocked. Shocked!

The surprising troubling thing is how willing the MSM are to allow themselves to be used in this manner.

17 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:06:07am
18 Windhorse  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:06:21am

they even abuse their dead children... what a sick society....

19 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:06:27am
20 Paul  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:06:29am

Why is the MSM just now "discovering" all the Pallywood fabrications, distortions and lies? I suspect they knew about it all the time but were too lazy, too incompetent or too sympathetic to do anything about it. The bloggers had to do the job the MSM wouldn't.

21 HDrepub  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:06:36am

Jammie they are still gloating over their little victory in Connecticut. Not much can rain on their parade for a few days. Never mind the primary election in Connecticut was not much bigger than an election in two Texas counties. One pundit said it could have been held in a phone booth with its low turnout.

22 friarstale  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:07:09am

Thank you, Germany!
My heart goes out to the videographer, though, who might get on a Leb/Hizb death list.
I hope he or she is out of the country.
That's some balls.
Wanna bet a whole bunch of photographers are thrown out of Southern Lebanon?

23 joshlbetts  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:08:18am

It would be a great time to hit Charles' tip jar.

24 mbruce  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:08:28am

#16.they are more than willing accomplices,they are part and parcel of the enemy plain and clear.

25 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:09:00am
26 BurbankErnie  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:09:12am

I have been lied to my entire life by the media.

27 hazmat  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:09:30am

I can't wait until we can call him bullet-in the-head-guy!

28 Capt. Queeg  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:10:05am

Muslims and their fascination with snuff films...

29 BabbaZee  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:10:20am

Little Green Footballers
kick
Green Helmet Guy's Ass

Film @ 11~

30 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:10:24am

It is a frigging shame, I REFUSE TO WATCH FURTHER, these underanimals are unbearable !

31 Mikeytrix  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:11:35am

Well that take's the cake as the most revolting, repugnant, evil episode of journalism since....

...I don't even know when.

Time to kill them ALL and purge the earth of this sickness.

32 xyan  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:11:51am

I read a paper today which printed pics of the atrocities in Lebanon. There were no Reuters pics, probably because the "powerful" ones are all withdrawn. All the pics were from AP, including the ones from Qana. If we could only expose AP as well I think public opinion could be won back.

33 Axiom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:12:40am

Digg It

It's Powerline's post, but I saw it there first. :)

34 Doss  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:12:48am

Digg this story here.

35 Americain  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:12:50am

OT

Asswipe George Galloway on right now on KABC Radio

link

36 Peacekeeper  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:12:53am

This is the soul of the Jihad: human lives mere rounds of ammunition to expended-with no release even after death.

37 Prester John  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:13:11am

His he any relation to Dark Helmet?

38 imploder  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:13:16am

The most shocking thing about this video is not that Green helmet did this:

It is that it was shot by Europeans.

39 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:13:33am
#21 HDrepub 8/10/2006 08:06AM PDT

Jammie they are still gloating over their little victory in Connecticut. Not much can rain on their parade for a few days. Never mind the primary election in Connecticut was not much bigger than an election in two Texas counties. One pundit said it could have been held in a phone booth with its low turnout.

They're really gonna go apeshit when all the Republicans and a good chunk of the independents vote for Lieberman and he wins going away.

40 mad_scientist  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:14:19am

Green Helmet Guy busted, Terror Attacks Foiled, Reuter's Ass nailed to the wall.....this is a busy week so far.

41 ninewhile  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:14:23am

#27 hazmat

It'll be funnier yet when his understudy (you know he's got one) gets to prop up his dead carcass while wondering if the Green Helmet will fit.

Better... it'll be like Cinderella... the understudy puts on the helmet and he's magically transformed into Green Helmet guy version 2.0.

42 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:15:16am

OT...The President will be speaking at 11:50 ET today.

43 transient  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:15:23am

This is devastating.

Kudos to Zapp and thank you Charles for your work exposing the liars.

I repeat myself, but all the MSM should be taking a cold, hard look at their "sources" in the Mideast. Why is it they rely on stringers in Arab nations, but on their own personel in Israel? The answer is simple really-- Israel allows free access to the press, even to BBC and al-Jezeera-- they set the bar pretty low. You don't HAVE to hire locals to work in Israel. You DO if you work in Arab nations. This inevitably means manipulation by the locals. You see what they want you to see, you film what they want you to film.

The media are quick to point it out when Israel "censors" their product, but until now, they have never even hinted that their product was affected by their lack of freedom of operation in Arab nations. The wall is just beginning to crack, but when the dam breaks, it's going to get ugly, so the MSM should think about preemptively moving to higher ground if they want to maintain a shred of their rapidly tattering credibility.

44 Stormy  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:15:34am

sick, sick, sick...

How long before I have to hear Koz et al defend what's going on in this video? At some point don't the very looniest of the left have to finally admit that in fact they're wrong about something?

Interesting how Charles/OpinionJournal were questioning the photo that showed the legs of one of the dead in the air. As it turns out, it really was rigormortis and they updated their stories to say, "Yes, in this case it was not staged, it appears to be real."

When video evidence of Green Helmet is shown to the left, they don't say, "Yes, I guess he was staging things." They will blame Bushitlerburton, and Israel. I'm guessing they'll go for the, "But they have to stage things for maximum impact because Israel is using unfair disproportional responses."

I'm very interested in checking the American pulse this November. Not to mention the things that might happen between now and then. Things are just heating up in the world.

45 Peacekeeper  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:15:40am
"He who surrenders himself without reservation to the temporal claims of a nation, or a party, or a class is rendering to Caesar that which, of all things, most emphatically belongs to God: himself..."

C.S.Lewis

46 HDrepub  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:15:45am

39 JammieWearingFool

I await this with bated breath. Can't wait to see their heads explode. HAAA

47 Geepers  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:15:58am

Quoth AP's senior vice president and executive editor Kathleen Carroll:

"It's hard to imagine how someone sitting in an air-conditioned office or broadcast studio many thousands of miles from the scene can decide what occurred on the ground with any degree of accuracy," said Kathleen Carroll, AP's senior vice president and executive editor.

Carroll said in addition to personally speaking with photo editors, "I also know from 30 years of experience in this business that you can't get competitive journalists to participate in the kind of (staging) experience that is being described."

Go ahead Kathleen, tell me again how stupid your critics are, and how your competitive journalists are unfoolable.

48 zulubaby  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:16:18am
My heart goes out to the videographer, though, who might get on a Leb/Hizb death list.

I would assume the videographer is in on it, no?

49 orangutan  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:16:19am

This is rich, truly rich. All the New-news is about the making of the Old-"News".

It begs the question, what are we missing when our "eyes-and-ears" are a bunch of two-bit, cub-moviemaker wanna-bes instead of investigative, skeptical, truth seeking reporters (not that there are any out there for hire)?

Sick.

50 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:17:51am

And here is his next show.

If you want to see the use made of Green Helmet Guy's propaganda, see here.

Now, I wonder when this is going to appear on US television?

51 Danno  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:18:10am

#3 ddd

Do Muslims lie?

Weeeellll no. The Koran fobids it, thus they cannot do it. (PUUKE!)

52 John H  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:18:11am

The fact that all of this 'pre-fab' media fodder is getting exposed is a very good thing.period.

What it will accomplish is doubtful, except that we might get a slight adjustment to the bias setting...for a while anyways.

This video was amazing though! Props to the crew who took it. I'm assuming they're safely out of the country now, since GHG and his buddies obviously understand the power of propaganda and have a copy of all the foreign workers' passports.

Yeoman's work Charles! Keep it up, please.

53 transient  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:18:19am

#38 imploder

Yes and no. The Germans in particular have produced several anti-idiotarian pieces in the last couple of years, particularly Der Spiegel IIRC.

54 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:18:49am

I hope God or the Israelis give this guy what he's earned for all his hard work.

Faster, please.

Assuming they're still alive - where are that kid's parents? OH WAIT, this is a Hezbollah production, so even if the parents objected to their kid's corpse being used as a movie prop in today's edition of Arab Honor Street Theater, they'd probably be threatened if they said anything...

I wonder if White Shirt Guy next to the van is connected to White Shirt Guy inside the building (you know, the guy with the slogan that vanished from his shirt in MSM broadcasts and photos).

55 lawhawk  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:18:51am

Video killed the fauxtostar...

56 logger phd  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:18:52am

Is Green Helmet Guy Dark Helmet's younger brother?

"Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

57 equable  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:18:52am

# 38, Imploder:

The most shocking thing about this video is not that Green helmet did this:
It is that it was shot by Europeans

It doesn't shock me at all. They're simply trying to finish the job they started in WW II.

When you think about it, over the centuries Europe has been quite the efficient mindwashing brigade. Here and now they are simply trying to finish what they started, even if they are relegated down to a mere propaganda machine.

We can debunk this crap as fast as they shovel it at us, but to those who want to believe what is being shoveled at them - it's borderline pointless.

58 Useless R. Dewoh  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:20:59am

There are simply not enough adjectives to fully describe how crass, manipulative, ghoulish and disgusting this whole thing is. I heard on the news this morning that the IDF is pausing their campaign! They need to drop the hammer on these thugs once and for all, and put an end to hezbullah forever.

59 logger phd  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:21:10am

Prester John, GMTA!

Are you my father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate?

60 WriterMom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:21:13am

From Green Lizard Mom to Green Helmet Guy:

You are sickening, devil worshippers who are the filth of the earth...while our infidel hearts break at the sight of a dead child you parade an innocent's death for propaganda purposes. No shame-no mercy for you. Burn in hell.

61 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:21:17am

Salon.com shills for the Hezbos

Israel’s war against the genocide-minded Hezbollah in particular need only consider the case of Salon.com. Last week, the magazine published a dispatch ostensibly debunking the “myth” that Hezbollah hides among civilians, thereby incurring Israeli fire and endangering Lebanese civilians. This claim, according to author Mitch Prothero, “is almost always false.”

What is immediately striking about the report is not merely that it is untrue, but that from the onset it gives the lie to its own thesis. Setting the scene, Prothero writes:

The locals knew that the 10-story apartment building had been the office, and possibly the residence, of Sheik Tawouk, the Hezbollah commander for the south, so they had moved their families out at the start of the war. The landlord had refused to rent to Hezbollah when they requested the top floors of the building. No matter, the locals said, the Hezb guys just moved in anyway in the name of the “resistance.” Everyone knew that the building would be hit eventually.

Wait, there's more.

* Throughout the current fighting, Hezbollah has prevented civilians from leaving their villages prior to Israeli military strikes.
* Hezbollah has used mosques as weapons depots, using them to stockpile weapons and ammunition and to launch ambushes on IDF forces. Senior IDF officials have further revealed that Hezbollah, acting on the conviction that Israel would not attack Lebanese residential areas, has taken to concealing long-range rockets in specially-designed rooms built in houses in southern Lebanese villages.
*Hezbollah has repeatedly fired rockets from civilian population centers. Aerial footage collected by the IDF unmistakably shows Hezbollah rockets being fired from civilian areas near Qana, the site of the July 30 air strike that was widely condemned as an unprovoked attack on civilians by Israel.
*A New York Times story on Christians fleeing Lebanon quoted a young Christian man, Fayad Hanna Amar, from the village of Ain Eben, deploring Hezbollah’s tactics. “Hezbollah came to Ain Ebel to shoot its rockets,” Amar told the Times. "They are shooting from between our houses." Amar said that Hezbollah fighters had poured into his village in groups of two and three in order to launch rockets, forcing the Israeli army to return fire.
*A July 28 press release [pdf] by the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) noted that “Hezbollah fired from the vicinity of five UN positions” in southern Lebanon and explained that a “number of troops in some Ghanaian battalion positions is somewhat reduced because of the increased safety risk for the troops due to frequent incidents of Hezbollah firing from the vicinity of the positions” and Israeli retaliation.
*Mere days before he was killed in an Israeli strike on a UN post in Lebanon, an unarmed Canadian United Nations observer had written privately that Hezbollah was using the post to fire rockets into Israel. Of Israeli bombings, Maj. Paeta Hess-von Kruedner wrote that “[t]his has not been deliberate targeting, but rather due to tactical necessity.” As a former UN commander told the Ottawa Citizen, “What that means is, in plain English, 'We've got Hezbollah fighters running around in our positions, taking our positions here and then using us for shields and then engaging the (Israeli Defence Forces).”
*After touring south Beirut, a Hezbollah stronghold, UN Undersecretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Jan Egeland demanded that “Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending...among women and children.” Added Egeland: “I heard they were proud because they lost very few fighters and that it was the civilians bearing the brunt of this. I don't think anyone should be proud of having many more children and women dead than armed men.”

Absolute savages.

62 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:21:31am
63 ggt  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:21:49am

I'd like to think that journalists wouldn't stoop to this level either. The problem is that there aren't many journalists left, all we have are sensationalists.

Journalism is suppossed to be a noble profession, the problem is that it doesn't make enough money. Sensationalism does.

64 katemaclaren  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:22:06am

#17 Jammie

I checked out that link and wow. It must be the same guy who started off the Glen Beck show this morning. Same accusation. Republicans revenge over Lieberman's defeat--wow. wow. wow. Breathtaking. It's just too bad that ignorance isn't painful.

65 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:22:09am

The whole thing was staged.

It was not one stringer. every single news agency that was there sent the same story with the same message.

The people present were willing parties to the commission of an atrocity: the abuse of the dead for propaganda purposes.

Instead of walking away in disgust, they ate it up, and made the crime their own and spread it all over the world. Not one refused to be part of it. They all went along with it together, a conspiracy by those present to inflame hatred against the Jewish people.

Not one reporter stood aside and said, this is wrong. the real story is this video.

66 jehu  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:22:23am

I have to ask myself more and more, WHO is the audience to this kind of news? Who is the audience of the MSM? At what point is a person's passivity and ignorance more a willing accomplice? When do people cross the line from "I didn't know," to "I don't want to know?"

I have less and less sympathy to the consumers of the MSM. I think they want to be lied to...insist that they be told lies. And the free market provides.

67 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:22:27am

BREAKING -

Hijacking of Qatari Airlines Flight Foiled Jordan says - --- banner on Fox, no details yet

68 dennisw  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:23:10am

All I gotta say is, just when I thought I couldn't be surprised by Muslim depravity and lying .....

69 big L  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:23:15am

I click the little arrow and the words come up and the film runs but no picture.

70 sanwin  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:23:36am

Another amazing coup for Charles.

Keep up the good work, the more people learn about this deception, the better it is for everyone.

71 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:23:37am

Stupid question time...
Now that we have conclusive proof of staging, how does the MSM justify the fact that these rather obvious actions were happening directly in front of their still photographers?

I want to see some talking head try to explain that little aspect away for us.

72 balishak  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:23:42am

This is truly disturbing. I mean, we had "evidence" before GHG was staging the photo's and propping bodies, but this is damning.
I can speak for myself, if I were some guy trying to make a buck, I would be pissed at Israel for bombing my home, and killing my son. But I would outright furious that some scumbag would treat my child's body like a prop. This just tells you about the kind of foe we have here. No respect for human life, no respect for the dead. It's amazing that we have people in this country that actually defend behavior like that. I thought we were better than that.

P.S. No I am not condemming Israel, I will leave that the idiot LLL's to do that.

73 John H  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:24:52am

#69
It takes about 14 seconds for the footage. If you're getting text, just be patient...

74 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:24:53am

Lizards - time to email a link to that video to every TV station and DEMAND that they show it!

75 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:25:06am
76 WriterMom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:25:19am

For comparison purposes: Jewish views on death, and care for the dead..

After a person dies, the eyes are closed, the body is laid on the floor and covered, and candles are lit next to the body. The body is never left alone until after burial, as a sign of respect. The people who sit with the dead body are called shomerim, from the root Shin-Mem-Resh, meaning "guards" or "keepers".

Respect for the dead body is a matter of paramount importance. For example, the shomerim may not eat, drink, or perform a commandment in the presence of the dead. To do so would be considered mocking the dead, because the dead can no longer do these things.

Most communities have an organization to care for the dead, known as the chevra kaddisha (the holy society). These people are volunteers. Their work is considered extremely meritorious, because they are performing a service for someone who can never repay them.

77 wetfun  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:25:27am

Puke

78 logger phd  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:25:39am

It has been mentioned before in print, and no doubt on LGF, that a big difference between us and people like Green Helmet that while they ghoulishly revel in parading theur casualties --even their littlest ones-- we prefer to shield our losses so as to protect and respect the dignity of the dead. Israel in particular is culturally conditioned to show respect and reverence toward spilled blood and fresh corpses.

What sickens me most, though, is how willingly our media play their game. Please, stop showing that --especially now that you know how many of these corpses are being "recycled."

79 Clintonite  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:26:23am

Nedrenaline? "NEDRENALINE?"

Dang! Whatsa guy hafta do to get a body fluid named after him?

80 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:26:34am

Every new agencuy that broadcast footage and phots from this outrage needs to explain to their audience what they are going to do to ensure this does not happen in the future.

What kind of barbarian hauls a body out of an ambulance to put it back in again for the media? The enemy that is who.

81 Derek  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:26:44am

Does anyone know where I can find some High Resolution image of Green Helmet Guy?

I have an idea...

82 jehu  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:26:51am

And what the hell do Muslims have against planes? Is it jealousy over Muhammed (Piss be upon Him) who flew to heaven on Buraq?

(That is a horse like creature with wings and the face of a woman). Yeah this is a real freaking religion the world should be taking seriously.

83 right wing zephyr  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:26:52am

I know it's not the story here, but I have to ask; Am I wrong to weep for their children? Not because they might be killed collateraly by an Israeli bomb, but because they are being propped up in front of jihadists in the middle of war, that they only know as their family.

We can forgive you for killing our children but we can't forgive you for making us kill yours. -Golda Meir

84 Spiny Norman  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:27:28am

#53 transient

The Germans in particular have produced several anti-idiotarian pieces in the last couple of years, particularly Der Spiegel IIRC.

Didn't the German Media expose the Muhammed al Dura fraud?

85 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:27:30am

#44 Stormy 8/10/2006 08:15AM PDT

sick, sick, sick...

How long before I have to hear Koz et al defend what's going on in this video? At some point don't the very looniest of the left have to finally admit that in fact they're wrong about something?

No. Never. Don't you know? Being a moonbat means never having to say your sorry..

86 zombie  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:27:39am

Check and mate!

Game over for the Hezbollah media empire.

87 hurricane_jimmy  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:27:45am

I'm sure this will garner plenty of media coverage by MSM.

The media is so stupid. They are being used and just pretend it is not so.

88 greenmiler  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:27:46am

I want green helmet guy to be, Green-helmet-guy-that-trades-places-with-boy-on-st retcher-guy"

89 One_Shot_One_Kill  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:29:47am

What an impressive fellow.

/Mike Wallace

90 logger phd  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:29:59am

#76 writermom

Thanks, w-mom, you stated my point before I finished typing it!

By the way, hi to all Lizards . . . it has been a while for me. . . .

91 Spiny Norman  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:30:14am

#85 Yankee Division Son

How long before I have to hear Koz et al defend what's going on in this video? At some point don't the very looniest of the left have to finally admit that in fact they're wrong about something?

No. Never. Don't you know? Being a moonbat means never having to say your sorry..

Like all good Revolutionaries, they hold to the belief that the End justifies the Means.

92 blutonazi98  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:30:21am
“I also know from 30 years of experience in this business that you can’t get competitive journalists to participate in the kind of (staging) experience that is being described.”

good i am glad cus i was starting to wonder. thanks to AP for clearing this up

93 WriterMom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:30:26am

#83 right wing zephyr

Am I wrong to weep for their children?

The reason we will be victorious is precisely because we weep for THEIR children. This is what signals your humanity, your compassion. We must weep for the children who lost their lives due directly to Islamic depravity...We must defend our own children WITH ALL OUR STRENGTH.

94 bonz  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:31:09am

#71 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Now that we have conclusive proof of staging, how does the MSM justify the fact that these rather obvious actions were happening directly in front of their still photographers?


Simple. They issue earplugs to all stringers so the stringers can't take directions

95 MamaAJ  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:31:34am

When was this video taken? How long was it used for Hezb'allah propaganda before turning it into an actual news story about the making of propaganda?

96 Alan The Brit  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:31:40am

More Propanganda ?

Channel 4 News (UK) did a long piece last night on Israel escalating the conflict. Later on in the piece they accuse Israel of targeting civilians and even Red Cross ambulances . If you try the link below you can scroll to the end of the first clip and then it loads another clip that includes the ambulance (or click on the Red Cross In Lebanon link )

[Link: www.channel4.com...]

It is the same Red Cross ambulance that has been covered here, the one with the big round hole slap bang in the middle of the red cross. It was described at one point as a rocket attack. In the images shown in this footage the round hole is clearly a machine-cut mounting hole for a large red light that can be seen on the other ambulances. I Googled some other reports on this incident and the attack has been described as strafing by an Israeli helicopter. The other damage on the roof doesn’t appear to be bullet holes. Any definitive explanations for this?

Whatever the truth it is being milked for all it is worth.

97 BabbaZee  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:32:10am
65 Ayatollah Ghilmeini 8/10/2006 08:22AM PDT
The whole thing was staged.

It was not one stringer. every single news agency that was there sent the same story with the same message.

The people present were willing parties to the commission of an atrocity: the abuse of the dead for propaganda purposes.

Instead of walking away in disgust, they ate it up, and made the crime their own and spread it all over the world. Not one refused to be part of it. They all went along with it together, a conspiracy by those present to inflame hatred against the Jewish people.

Not one reporter stood aside and said, this is wrong. the real story is this video.

Amen to your whole post

98 WriterMom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:32:48am

GEEPERS!

Good point...

99 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:33:46am

"From Baghdad Bob to Green Helmet Guy"
A concise history of the rise of journalism in the Middle East
By Jayson Blair with a forward by Dan Rather

* By far the best book on how the Middle Eastern news media beats the west hands down* CNN Senior editor

* One of the best sources of news in the world* Editorial staff of the New York Times

* More fake but accurate reporting then any other major western news agency and this book explains it all* George Galloway

*I wish I had hired them to manage my campaign* Cynthia McKinney
/BIG sarc

100 Vulgorilla  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:34:13am

"The surprising troubling thing is how willing the MSM are to allow themselves to be used in this manner."

I strongly suspect that the MSM wants to be used in this manner ... that if the GHG didn't exist, they'd find one who did.

101 steppingrazor  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:34:55am

#99

I was just thinking of Baghdad Bob... can't we get him a SNL gig or something?

102 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:35:23am
103 Shredstar  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:35:28am

This is too funny. AP is basically saying their "news" is useless for figuring out what is going on.

“It’s hard to imagine how someone sitting in an air-conditioned office or broadcast studio many thousands of miles from the scene can decide what occurred on the ground with any degree of accuracy,” said AP.

104 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:36:09am

Now showing at the 2007 Cannes Film Festival: A Michael Moore/Green Helmet Guy production......

105 Manker  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:36:35am

While this is a true disgusting display, it does bring up another question.

What is the real death toll in this conflict for lebanon?

The fact is that Lebanon stated that a 1000 have been killed.

But this clearly proves that the 28 there weren't. And puts the 1000 into very serious doubt. It also makes me question how many hizb'allah have actually been killed? And whether anyone was killed at Kana or whether the killed there were hizb'allah?

The fact is that the disinformation campaign by hizb'allah is very strong and almost overwhelming. It's now time for the napalm to be loaded up and used to burn the Lebanese country side.

106 ThomasTheConfessor  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:37:28am

LGF is HOT, Can I sell my account on eBay$$$$$

107 BabbaZee  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:37:46am

BTW for those who missed this link yesterday

Geepers
is a veritable "operative" now too...


[Link: www.bloggergearstore.com...]


Good work!

108 BabbaZee  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:39:05am
#106 ThomasTheConfessor 8/10/2006 08:37AM PDT
LGF is HOT, Can I sell my account on eBay$$$$$

Probably, you
WHORE!
:~P

109 scoreboard44  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:39:26am

102 taxfreekiller

You are particularly on edge today, aren't you? :)

No more coffee for you.

And I'll hide the knives.

110 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:39:28am

#85 yankee Division
How long before I have to hear Koz et al defend what's going on in this video? At some point don't the very looniest of the left have to finally admit that in fact they're wrong about something?
No. Never. Don't you know? Being a moonbat means never having to say your sorry..

It may be time for the resident rocket scientist to demonstarte how , by using a room full of cats, it would be impossible for somebody to stage such a propaganda event as Green Helmet Guy did.
/burning chicken wire

111 zombie  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:39:44am

Also, check this out, sent in by a zombietime reader from Norway:

This camera crew from TV2 in Norway had its film destroyed and its members menaced by Hezbollah (link in Norwegian) when they treid to film Hezbollah firing rockets at Israel.

(Could we get a translation, Fjordman?) One of the many instances when journalists said they were threatened by Hezbollah if they didn't repeat the propganda properly.

As for this new Green Helmet video -- curse you, Charles! My Reuters Scandal page goes out of date faster than I can keep on top of things.

112 logger phd  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:40:11am

Hi, Babba!

To paraphrase a classic old movie review from the Washington Post, please Mister Evil Zionist Israeli Monster, find them and kill them.

113 mama winger  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:40:28am

Green Helmet Guy vs Camo Helmet Guy

[Link: neweuropean.grabinski.ch...]


The difference between being used and being treasured.

114 Spiny Norman  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:41:09am

#86 zombie

Check and mate!

Game over for the Hezbollah media empire.

Since most of the Media are active participants in the Hezbo propaganda campaign, I imagine these revelations will hardly slow them down.

115 scoreboard44  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:41:30am

108 BabbaZee

Gawd I love that phrase sometimes!

WHORE WHORE WHORE!

I just defined Green Helmet Guy.

Selling his soul for his own benefit.

116 zygazint  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:41:32am

#3 and #51

'do muslims lie' ?

TAQWA - search that on an Islamic site.

Better question would be do fish have lips?

117 HDrepub  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:42:28am

104 Bobblehead
OT sort of but Mikey Moore has threatened all the Democrats with Joe Lieberman's fate today.

118 ThomasTheConfessor  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:43:07am

BabbaZee you whoraphobe

119 dead sea squirrel  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:43:08am

Smoking gun video on LGF + Probable record number of new readers (including MSMers) = A good day for truth.

120 WriterMom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:43:18am

#108 BabbaZee

Probably, you
WHORE!
:~P

LGF Ho's? Where do I sign up...I guess I already have...

Now-being an LGF pimp:

EVERYONE THROW SOME CHANGE AT CHARLES-FEARLESS LIZARD KING AND SUPER MENSCH!

121 zygazint  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:44:43am

#3 and #51

TAQWA - the ability to lie freely to further the Islamic agenda- it's in the Koran.

'do muslims lie?'...better question would be do fish have lips.

122 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:45:08am

This may be a stange analogy, but the philosophy behind the MSM having no problem with staged pictures of dead babies killed in this war. It is the same philosophy that made Howard Dean a left wing media darling:

The pictures show what the media wants you to believe, mainly that Israelis are baby killers, but without them actually saying it. Much like Dean in that only started receiving the media spotlight only when he started saying the most outrageous stuff about Bush. It was what they wanted to say but couldn't.

They highlight what OTHER people are saying or showing and can claim neutrality.

Like plausible deniability.

I guess it's using someone else as their mouthpiece.

I hope that was clear, cause it makes sense in my head!

123 mama winger  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:45:46am

Air Force One landing in Green Bay. Bush to speak. If I had known, I would have made the drive.

124 greenmiler  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:46:18am

Green Helmet Whore Guy!

125 BabbaZee  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:47:21am

The NME is the Caliphates WHORE!

Shalom
Logger PHD,
Writer Mom,
Scoreboard 44~
Everyone

It's starting to get harder to get back in on refresh... the reuteerpalooza stampede continues!


#118 ThomasTheConfessor
teehee

126 WriterMom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:48:58am

#121 zygazint

Useful article: All About Taqiyah

127 storagemanager  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:49:19am

Prez to speak soon.

128 steppingrazor  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:49:29am

I've got to give it up for NDR (Norddeutschen Rundfunks) for having the integrity to air this. Can anyone say when and on what program this was initially aired, and how many Germans would have seen it broadcast?

If it was aired on the German version of 60 Minutes, that's very good.

129 MoonbatBane  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:51:09am
Carroll said in addition to personally speaking with photo editors, “I also know from 30 years of experience in this business that you can’t get competitive journalists to participate in the kind of (staging) experience that is being described.

Has someone e-mail this moron that video clip Charles has at the top of this thread?

Hey, Carrol, you do realize now that you were dead wrong and that your organization has basically been co-opted as a propaganda tool of terrorists? Oh, that's right, you don't care because it can't be used to "Get Bush." Nevermind...

130 zygazint  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:51:37am

Hugz writerpajamamama-long time -

Rules
Taqiyya, like any other Islamic tenet, has guidelines and limits. According to many Shia, Taqiyya can only be legally used by a Muslim verbally when he or she is being wrongly persecuted. The situation may be when no matter whichever course of action an individual chooses he has to commit an evil. In that case, he should select the lesser evil.

When one is guilty and is trying to conceal his or her guilt, in Islam, he is not said to be using taqiyya, he or she is considered a debauchee.

[edit]
Qur'an

131 WriterMom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:52:07am

#128 steppingrazor

Good point. I wonder if the camera person though-had this outcome in his or her head while filming it. It would certainly be interesting if any of our German friends could track it...

hans ze beman-you out there? German Ally?

132 Praxeus  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:52:24am

Why can't anyone else register ? Good thing I did back in '04

133 Manker  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:52:34am
“It’s hard to imagine how someone sitting in an air-conditioned office or broadcast studio many thousands of miles from the scene can decide what occurred on the ground with any degree of accuracy,” said Kathleen Carroll, AP’s senior vice president and executive editor.

Carroll said in addition to personally speaking with photo editors, “I also know from 30 years of experience in this business that you can’t get competitive journalists to participate in the kind of (staging) experience that is being described.”

I just gotta ask Carroll;

How badly does it suck to eat your own words?

Kol HaKavod Charles,

134 ctrlL  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:52:38am

20 Paul

Why is the MSM just now "discovering" all the Pallywood fabrications, distortions and lies? I suspect they knew about it all the time but were too lazy, too incompetent or too sympathetic to do anything about it. The bloggers had to do the job the MSM wouldn't.



You forgot the dreaded disease of Political Correctness ... IMHO, the real cause of spinal absence.

135 Middle-Earth  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:53:01am

#74 galloping granny

x' have to be there

136 WriterMom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:53:06am

writerpajamamama

Hahahahah. I may just have to change my nic...I love it.

137 BabbaZee  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:53:11am
In Islam, lying or omissions for the 'greater good,' according to a strict or radical Islam/Islamist philosophy is not only acceptable, it is holy and blessed work. It is called al-Takeyya (or al-Taqiyya) and is a strategy outlined in the Hadiths and supported by various interpretations of some of the Suras in the Koran. We have just seen it in action and most people never even caught the whiff of mental ether the Islamists were pouring into the airways of the already comatose and choking non-Islamist world.

Al-Takeyya is a policy whereby a Muslim may lie, deceive or omit critical truths if it promotes the spreading of Islam AND the conquest of the non-Muslim world. According to William P. Welty, Ph.D., al-Takeyya/Taqiyya is:

"The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur'an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates." (1)

And here is the definition from an Islam encyclopedia website:

"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies..." (2)

[SNIP]


[Link: www.isralert.com...]

138 Irene NYC  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:54:07am

On FOX now, they're interviewing Bob Baer about the overwhelming hostility of England's 2 million muslims and how they feel that they must further the Hezzies agenda in the West via terrorism. And then Bill Hemmer closing with how Baer so much expertise in the Middle East, etc.

If Baer has so much expertise going back years and years and years, why are we only hearing about this now?

Too little, too late.

139 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:54:20am
140 wltzacrsstxs  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:54:23am

My daughter is about that age. A vibrant, interesting, precious human being. I can't fathom someone treating her dead body like a movie prop. I'm crying watching this.

141 WriterMom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:54:25am

#133 manker

How badly does it suck to eat your own words?

Less than crow, more than shit?

142 saywhat?  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:54:49am

#20 Paul

Why is the MSM just now "discovering" all the Pallywood fabrications, distortions and lies? I suspect they knew about it all the time but were too lazy, too incompetent or too sympathetic to do anything about it.

Good question. Since Pallywood refers to the Palestinian question I've taken the liberty of copying some of the glowing reviews for the 1985 national bestseller "From Time Immemorial" by Joan Peters. It is stunning to read the accolades from many members of the very same msm providing todays jihad propaganda - not to mention the scholars and politicians who admired this book. . .

The massive research Ms. Peters did. . . would have daunted Hercules. In the course of it she turned up a great deal of inteeresting material from Ottoman records, the reports of Western consular officers and observant travelers and other sourcs."- New York Times Book Review

"A remarkable document in itself . . .The refugees are not the problem but the excuse." - Washington Post Book World

"Everything in this book reads like hard news . . .One woman walks in and scoops them all... The great service provided here by Ms. Peters - if only attention is paid - is to lay a groundwork for peae by clearing away the farrago of lies . . - National Review

."

"Fresh and powerful . . . Offers an original analysis . . .Makes it necessary fro us to take a second look at and perhaps even redraw, our picture of the conflict. "- Atlantic Monthly


"The reader comes away not only rethinking the Midle ast refugee problem, but also the extent to which propaganda can be swallowed whole for lack of information
."- Los Angeles Times

"With determination, brilliant detective work and patience, Peters managed to unearth a foundation of factuality, research and commitment to truth." - Toronto Star

"An arresting, scrupulously researched and documented account of the relationship between Arabs and Jews in the MiddleEast from earliest times. This book fascinatingly shatters the persistent myths surrounding the contemporary concept of an Arab homeland that bases its legitimacy on ancient roots in Western Palestine. Iti is an absorbing story, one of great importance to everyone concerned with the destiny of the Midle East. The Israeli-Arab confrontation is the heart of the matter and no one can pretend to an opinion or judgment without understanding the background as revealed in From Time Immemorial." - Angier Biddle Duke, former Ambasador to Morocco


"It is astonishingthat From Time Immemorial is, to my knowledge, the first book in the English language which tells the story of the expulsion of Jews from the Arab countries and the indifference of the world community to their plight. Ms. Peter's book is must reading." - Arthur J. Goldberg, former Associate Justice, US Supreme Court


"Contains much valuable information . . .derserving the attention of anyone seriously concerned with the Palestinian problem." -S. D. Goitein, The Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton


"Joan Peters strikes a heavy blow against the broad consensus about 'the Palestinians' and the assumption that palestinian rights are at the heart of the Arab Israeli conflict . . .FTI supplies abundant justification for reversing the moral and legal presumptions that have cast Israel in the role of defendant before the court of world opinion." - William V. O'Brien, Georgetown - William V. O'Brien, Georgetown University

This all simply boggles my mind!

143 storagemanager  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:55:40am

It is a mistake to believe there is no threat to the United States of America.President Bush

144 Derek  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:56:19am

Can anyone help with locating some decent high res images of green helmet guy?

I can't find any good ones.

145 friarstale  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:58:16am

Oh, you cruel, heartless creatures!
It's not enough an innocent child was in fact killed, you have to ask if the friends, relatives, caretakers, what-have-you of the child tried to emphasize the tragedy of his or her death through the modern miracle of film, so their plight could be heard, yes, and felt, throughout this cold callous world!
You ought to be asham -

Hey, give me back my laptop Ms. Streisand!

146 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 6:59:38am
#144 Derek

Can anyone help with locating some decent high res images of green helmet guy?

I can't find any good ones.

How high res and how big. I have every pic on the net of him but they will have to be converted. The other option is to buy one from one of the wire services

147 Geepers  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:00:05am

Thanks for the tip o' the hat Charles.

I'm thinking this has completely ridiculed the "inaccurate understanding of time stamps" excuse.

I don't see any excuse that can be made for this.

Repeatedly loading that boy's corpse in and out of the ambulance? Explain that away.

And the way that sick fuck just grabs him by the back of the head to twist his face into the camera is beyond sickening.

148 freya4freedom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:00:28am

Abusing dead kids?

These people really are the lowest of the low lifes.

149 retentionguy  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:01:15am

Hmmm, President Bush's speech comes just before CAIR's.... good timing! Chris Wallace working for Fox must be a source of pride for his father (not). Good speech. The govt can make air travel difficult for me, as long as it's also difficult for terrorists. What kills me though, is the TSA will search a 70 yr old
grandmother, but pass on the 24 yr old middle-eastern "youths" in front of her and behind her for fear of being accused of "profiling." It's disgusting.

150 Manker  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:02:23am

#141 WriterMom

I hope LGFers are sending an email barrage to Reuters again!

151 freya4freedom  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:02:58am

Btw there were multiple questions marks in my previous post. Why did they disappear? Are they verboten? :)

152 Derek  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:03:24am

#146

Something like an 800x600 or 1024x768. Nothing insane...just something decent to work with.

Do you have the files on a site of FTP?

153 Irene NYC  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:03:41am

"Political operatives will continue to make this point."

That's Chris Wallace on Fox explaining that Republicans will carry POTUS' message that there are still terrorists out there that want to strike.

Political operatives.

Better watch out. There are shadowy figures in the government out to take away your liberties.

What kind of a jerk is he?

154 Egfrow  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:05:56am

From the article:

Carroll said in addition to personally speaking with photo editors, “I also know from 30 years of experience in this business that you can’t get competitive journalists to participate in the kind of (staging) experience that is being described.”

You can if the want to keep their jobs and their lives.

155 BabbaZee  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:08:06am

Just because it cheers me up:

[Link: beecy.net...]

Strangers on my flight,
turbans they're packin'.
Wonderin' if they might,
plan a hijacking.
They could pull a stunt,
before this flight is through.

Something's on their minds.
I saw them mutter.
What that in their hands?
Looks like box cutters,
I'm gonna kick some ass,
if they make a move.

Strangers on my flight.
Two smelly people,
and they're not talking right;
and in a moment,
I will grab a baseball bat;
and that will be that.
Swing like Joe DiMaggio,
and rip them both a new a-hole.

And if they pick a fight,
and try to screw us,
I'll punch out their lights,
just like Joe Louis.
It would feel so right,
for strangers on my flight.

Ratta Tat Tat Tat,
Budda Bing Bang Boom,
Zooma Zooma Zoom.

Send those bastards to the moon....
[Frank Sinatra]


156 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:09:07am

Wish I could say I was shocked by this.

The MSM has been manipulating what we, as consumers, have viewed since the invention of 'news'.

We consumers of news have not had the means to discover the truth UNTIL NOW!

Thank goodness we now have LGF and others to uncover the lies of the MSM.

157 storagemanager  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:11:46am

Roger Hedgecock in for Rush......The New York Times are mad they didnt get a two week notice and a leak so they could warn the terrorist...

158 TotallySirius  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:13:42am

Mary Mapes,your legacy of denial lives on.

You should be soooo proud.

Pffffffffffft!

159 BabbaZee  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:13:51am
#141 WriterMom 8/10/2006 08:54AM PDT
#133 manker

How badly does it suck to eat your own words?

Less than crow, more than shit?

Useful virtual tool in just such situations:
[Link: www.pete-online.us...]

160 ErnieG  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:14:14am

AP senior vice president and executive editor Kathleen Carroll: Meet Mary Mapes.

161 So?  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:15:01am

What's even more disgusting than Green Helmut Guy is that the mainstream world media gobbles it up.


Have all journalists been lobotomized?
Or do they just want to win some stupid award for filing first.

sick o rama

162 Reluctant Democrat  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:15:31am

Yes, our media will "discover" this propaganda campaign now that real journalists like ZAPP have exposed the Big Lie for what it is. I can't wait to hear why Anderson Cooper didn't speak up until now, when the S*** already hit the fan.

163 CrimsonFisted  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:17:30am

When did Michael Moore lose weight and buy a green helmet? No wonder he has been AWOL for a while.

164 The Albatross  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:17:57am

How awesome is it that film substantiating the still photos has been made available.

In light of CNN's reporters comments on the video interview with our Charles... where Anderson (sp?) describes the opportunity to interview and film "ambulance drivers" who sped off only to return to the end of the line until all photographers had gotten their shots.... I am aghast at the depth of the deception and think that events like this must be common place since CNN's own talking head failed to register any inkling that these reporters and photographers were actively participating and broadcasting terrorist (or at least militant nonnational forces) propaganda to the world to skew the perceptions of an event.

We need a congressional investigation and an ethics commission investigating occurances where our own news agencies have been found participating or using staged or altered photographs or misleading captions so that we can set the bar high. Maybe by damaging the integrity of Reuters and others enough pressure can be put on them by their own stockholders to effect change and return to more ethical reporting methods.

165 BabbaZee  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:21:33am

ZAPPA DE UMMAH, PO-JAMA PEOPLE!

166 Geepers  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:22:58am

freya4freedom (#151),

Yes. There is a "lameness" filter.

Charles prefers whole words, whole sentences and wholly formed thoughts to make points, not ten exclamation points.

For multiple exclamation points or multiple questions marks you can get around it by adding spaces between them.

Charles won't ban you for living in lameland, what he will do is let everyone witness you going out of your way to crap on his virtual carpet.

167 zulubaby  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:23:10am

Kathleen Carroll -- yet another pathological liar posing as a journalist.

168 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:24:46am

I have been very skeptical about the LGF take on Qana (although I've been keeping my mouth shut for a change). I have to admit there is no longer any doubt that this was a staged event by Hezbullah and the MSM.
There are no words to express how impressed I am by Charles, Lizardoids and LGF. It's a pleasure to be proven wrong by y'all.

169 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:26:36am
152 Derek
Something like an 800x600 or 1024x768. Nothing insane...just something decent to work with.

Do you have the files on a site of FTP?

No ftp. Will put it on rapidshare or something. Got any particular pic in mind? Or can you describe the use so I can pick something?

170 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:27:04am
Carroll said in addition to personally speaking with photo editors, “I also know from 30 years of experience in this business that you can’t get competitive journalists to participate in the kind of (staging) experience that is being described.”

Maybe so. But I think one cameraman can be fooled by a bunch of locals.

Looks like the Reuters visits are down. Guess it's busy in London.

171 Trumanite  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:28:44am

155 BabbaZee 8/10/2006 09:08AM PDT

Thanks for that link. I hadn't heard that in a couple of years.

I really needed the laff.

172 Yank in the EU  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:30:01am

Excellent points Geepers and Charles.

/salute

Well, now we know that Ms. Kathleen Carroll has either spent the last 30 years of journalism with her head all the way up her butt or she is now (rather maliciously in regards to Israel) covering up for the complicity of the Big Media and Hizb'allah.

I suspect she is not as ignorant as she lets on...

173 Derek  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:34:08am

#169

I was thinking this one

174 BabbaZee  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:37:57am

171 Trumanite

I really needed the laff.

;~P Yea, me too.

175 BabbaZee  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:39:01am

Wrong Qana Death Toll Still Being Reported
(CNSNews.com) - A full week since the death toll in the Israeli air strike on the Lebanese town of Qana was revised -- reduced by one-half -- a number of news organizations are still reporting the original, inaccurate figure as fact.

Most glaring is the case of Reuters, whose "chronology" of the conflict was updated on July 30 to include the entry: "Lebanon says at least 54 civilians killed by air strike in the village of Qana. Lebanon cancels Rice visit." Reuters has sent out updated versions of the chronology at least seven times since then, but not one makes any reference to the subsequently revised death toll.

[SNIP]

[Link: www.cnsnews.com...]

176 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:39:55am

103 Shredstar

This is too funny. AP is basically saying their "news" is useless for figuring out what is going on.

“It’s hard to imagine how someone sitting in an air-conditioned office or broadcast studio many thousands of miles from the scene can decide what occurred on the ground with any degree of accuracy,” said AP.

No, she's an editor saying that the editors back home have a limited ability to fact-check. That's why editors have traditionally hollered at reporters to check everything.

Said it before, and I'll repeat again the old maxim in journalism, "If your mother says she loves you, check it out."

177 steppingrazor  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:40:09am

#155

Just remember - Sikhs are cool:

[Link: www.sikhs.org...]

I have to admit that in the wake of 9/11 I didn't know what Sikhhism was, but they did a lot of outreach to let people know that the turban can mean opposite things to different people.

178 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:41:41am

I can do that one. Will be later though. Got up with a sinus headache and this is the day they decided to jackhammer in the basement. Now have a migraine. Jackhammer Man is out to lunch so I need to try to sleep it off.

179 Derek  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:46:13am

Sounds good Galloping Granny. You can also email me the image if you want.

I appreciate it.

P.S - How big/resolution is the image?

180 IowaInfidel  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:48:38am

Little known fact:

Green Helmet Guy is one of the first graduates from Michael Moore's School for Documentary Producers.

181 sss111  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:54:40am
This is a good time to point out AP’s statement about allegations the Qana photographs were stage-managed by Hizballah (hat tip: Geepers). From AP senior vice president and executive editor Kathleen Carroll:

“It’s hard to imagine how someone sitting in an air-conditioned office or broadcast studio many thousands of miles from the scene can decide what occurred on the ground with any degree of accuracy,” said Kathleen Carroll, AP’s senior vice president and executive editor.

Carroll said in addition to personally speaking with photo editors, “I also know from 30 years of experience in this business that you can’t get competitive journalists to participate in the kind of (staging) experience that is being described.”

I think it's time to let Ms. Carroll know we want her to stop being a facilitator of and an apologist for terrorist murderers:

kcarroll@ap.org

182 Geepers  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:55:21am

zulubaby (#167),

I get the feeling that Kathleen Carroll is more Edina Monsoon than Michelle Malkin.

183 Merovign  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 7:57:28am

#177 steppingrazor

Hey, they run Arbys, and Arbys has 5 Roast Beef sandwiches for $5.99! How cool is that!

:)

Well, that and they smile because they're happy, not because they've got an angle. And they don't ziploc their lovely ladies so we can't see them!

So yeah, there's a lot to recommend.

Like:

Ranbir Kaur on the way to Iraq.

184 Merovign  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:02:01am

BTW, the commentator-babe at ZAPP and those who created this video report need to be sent a whole case of Kudos for getting the word out - and in such an unmealymouthed way!

185 Merovign  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:14:03am

Jeez, chalk up another thread-kill. :)

186 JAT  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:24:18am

Charles if you are not on every single news broadcast in the US by tomorrow - we are in a world of hurt. These people are sick and the whole world needs to see their true faces.

Sick! Muslim Terrorists are SICK animals.

187 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:27:52am

DEREK -

Your photo is ready. 200 dpi resolution

188 3 wood  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:31:03am

#39 Jammie

They're really gonna go apeshit when all the Republicans and a good chunk of the independents vote for Lieberman and he wins going away

That will be called "voter fraud".

189 el mago de oz  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:33:05am

..it wont surprise me to see him under hezbollah payola sickening!


/spits

190 steppingrazor  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:37:16am

#183
Had no idea Arby's was hooked up that way... one of the benefits of globlization I had overlooked :^)

When I used to be a regular at the gym, there were a couple of Sikhs (guys and gals) that would come in and bust their humps. Software and biotech kinds of people.

I seem to remember one of them having a nice, older Porsche 911 that showed signs of hard usage as well as careful upkeep. Bigtime joie de vivre on display.

To all you lurkers out there - the Sikhs are definitely on the "covenant of life" team!

191 Geepers  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:37:59am

OK, so I'm thinking is Kathleen Carroll more Edina Monsoon or Patsy Stone.

Turns out she's more like Patsy's boss.

Ms. Carroll six months ago:

For Carroll, this has meant several years, now, of moving generalists to subject-specialist slots as positions come open. She is quick to add, however, that "they still know what to do when the plane goes down."

That's right, rush to the scene for dead kid pictures.


The other forefront, Carroll said, is new kinds of content for the Web. "Take photos. Historically, magazines changed what news photography was all about. You had to get past just transcribing the event. The Web will change it yet again, but how, I'm not sure."

That's right, rush to the scene for dead kid pictures.

And you were right about the web, you just should have paid attention to Rathergate, and you would have known how the web can change things.

192 Derek  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:38:10am

#187

Hey there,

The photo is only 72 dpi at 502x318. Did photobucket possibly shrink it down or was that the original size?

193 Bozo  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:42:32am

Wasn't Green Helmet a red cross emergency worker?

If you were moving and displaying the bodies of dead soldiers bodies like this you would be breaking the Geneva Conventions; this probably applies even to dead Hezbollah freedom fighters in mufti. How bizare that it doesn't apply to civilians like this.

Some truly memorable images of the horror of war came from Vietnam : the girl on fire from napalm, the summary killing of the VC officier by the south vietnamese officer. Those photos were clearly not staged (although seldom are they displayed with sufficient context). If the IDF were truly so bad, Hezbollah would have no need to stage manage all this stuff? Ther MSM have really lost the plot in putting this crap out as news. The real story would be bad enough, or an acknowledgment that journalists don't have the courage to give us the real story (and I don't think there should be any shame in admitting that as a journalist you aren't prepared to be killed for presenting the news instead of Hezbollywood).

194 The Albatross  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:42:49am

Backspin has proof that gunmen have been using human shields - from youtube.
[Link: backspin.typepad.com...]

195 The Albatross  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 8:48:26am

Get it before it get's gone. Palestinian child abuse:

196 mattm  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 9:02:41am

Sick to the normal world. Normal to the MSM/moonbat world.

197 TMF  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 9:10:51am

Yeah, muslims care about their kids

THats why they blow up kids everyday

And applaud when their own kids blow themselves up

Muslims couldnt care less about their own kids, and thats why they are an absolute danger to this world

198 WarBicycle  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 9:11:51am

Let's hope this is a wake-up call for members of the MSN; many of them could easily have been a passenger on one of the targeted planes.

199 Van Impe  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 9:15:55am
Carroll said in addition to personally speaking with photo editors, “I also know from 30 years of experience in this business that you can’t get competitive journalists to participate in the kind of (staging) experience that is being described.”

Most of the photographers in Hezballah controlled areas are not journalists, they are locals with cameras, who have no integrity and who support the goals of Hezballah. Right now there is "market" for pictures of dead Lebanese civilians so those motivated by greed and not ideology will collaborate and participate in these charades. As for those legitimate journalists, as previously reported Hezballah has copies of their passports (i.e. they know where they live) enough said.

200 theheat  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 10:06:37am

It would be nice if Hizballah had an accurate death count to exact just how few or how many I don't care about.

Do I not care that 56 were killed, or 10, or 1?

So, Hizballah, go ahead - prop up your dead, put hats on them, move them around the scenes, hold them up over your head, carry them at waist level, surround them with toys, dress them up,. dress them down, wrap some with bandages, wrap some in maggots, show the same ugly hairy woman in tears in multiple photos taken over multiple days - I don't care.

As long as it's them getting killed, I'm not concerned with who or how many - just that they are taking losses. That is the point of a war, isn't it?

201 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 10:15:13am

While AP's executive editor Kathleen Carrol has a lot to answer for, let's not forget the AP correspondent on the scene, Kathy Gannon, whose words were the equivalent of the staged pictures we now know were the reality of Qana.


Bodies Pulled From Wreckage in Lebanon

By KATHY GANNON
The Associated Press
Sunday, July 30, 2006; 6:38 PM

QANA, Lebanon -- Abu Shadi Jradi pulled bodies out of wreckage for hours _ two toddler girls wearing tiny gold earrings, a small boy whose pale blue pacifier still hung from his neck. Somewhere in the middle, Jradi slumped beneath a tree and wept.

"There are so many children, so many children," the veteran civil defense worker said Sunday, barely able to get out the words.

The dead still had signs of their last moments, when dozens of members of the Shalhoub and Hashem families had gathered together for shelter and company during another night of Israeli bombardment. Kids wore the shorts and T-shirts they slept in. One body was wrapped in a child's bed sheet covered with Raggedy Ann and Andy figures.

* * *

Jradi said he got the call to rush to Qana from Tyre. But he couldn't go immediately, with Israeli warplanes still overhead. "It was too dangerous," he said. Through the morning, workers dug with their hands before heavy machinery arrived in the afternoon to search for bodies deeper within the wreckage.

* * *

The arm of a child slipped from beneath the dirty gray blanket that covered him. On the same stretcher, toes painted with bright red polish peeked out. A rescue worker lifted the blanket to show two shattered children who were curled up looking asleep except for the thick dried blood at their noses.

* * *

Like in many villages of the south, support for Hezbollah guerrillas is strong in Qana, nine miles from the Israeli border.

Hezbollah flags were placed on some of the bombed out buildings. From his hospital bed in Tyre, Mohammed Ali Shalhoub said that from their graves, his wife and children "were all saying God bless Sheik Hassan Nasrallah," the Hezbollah leader.

In Qana, resident Mohammed Ismail waved at seven dead lined up on the ground, saying President Bush "laughs when they ask him about the dead bodies."

202 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 10:20:56am

Reposted from the overnight thread:

The NDR footage conclusively demonstrates Green Helmet's role as propaganda director, but there are a lot of unanswered questions.

Is Green Helmet, identified as "Abdel Qader" in the Al Jazeera coverage the same man AP's Kathy Gannon talked to who was called "Abu Shadi Jradi"?

Is "Abu Shadi Jradi" the same man called "Abu Shadi" that the Toronto Globe and Mail's Mark MacKinnon quoted so uncritically and extensively showing off his refrigerated truck of decaying corpses in Tyre?

Were any of the corpses we see on display in Qana transported from elsewhere in Lebanon?

What news organizations and associated stringers were there in Qana for this propaganda show, and what did they do with the material they gathered?

It would be great if Nordeutcher Rundfunk could relesae the unedited footage to the web for analysis.

And though it seems obvious, what connection does Green Helmet have with Hizballah's Media Relations department?

Is he really a "civil defense worker" or a "mortician" in a dual role as propagandist?

203 afdad  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 10:21:00am

#173 Derek

I read some of the comments associated with the picture link. Damn! :[

Is there some way to get some of those posters to go to Lebanon, and volunteer as human shields? Almost all of 'em are so delusional it makes you hope for some near future cleansing of the gene pool!

204 Derek  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 10:24:45am

#203

Yeah I read some of the comments as well. It seems that Flickr is crawling with Liberal whackos.

They're littered all over the site.

205 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 10:32:15am

In an article published back on July 26, the Toronto Globe and Mail's correspondent in Lebanon Mark MacKinnon described interviewing a man he said was named "Abu Shadi" and MacKinnon uncritically reported Shadi's allegations:

Toll higher than stated, civilians say
Lebanese counting the bodies say hundreds remain missing, MARK MacKINNON reports

MARK MACKINNON

TYRE, LEBANON -- Sami Yazbek shakes his head when asked about the official death toll of approximately 400 Lebanese during Israel's two-week-old assault on this country.

"That number is false," says the director of the Red Cross office in this beleaguered front-line city. "Without a doubt, there's a lot more dead than that."

As proof, he lists the figures from Tyre alone, where 125 people have died from air strikes and artillery shelling that continued throughout the day yesterday. Another 150 are missing, he says, trapped under the rubble of their destroyed buildings. "They're dead by now, I think."

Many more corpses, he explains, are trapped in cars -- hit as they were fleeing north from the war-ravaged south -- that the Red Cross can't reach. Israel has not guaranteed safe passage for the Lebanese Red Cross, and two ambulances from Mr. Yazbek's detachment were hit by missiles Monday.

"And Tyre is one of the least-hit cities in the south. Many places are far worse. In Rmaysh, there's no food, no water, the road has been attacked. Same with Bint Jbeil," he says, referring to two towns that have borne the brunt of the Israeli attack to date. At least 500 people have been injured in Tyre alone, Mr. Yazbek says.

Abu Shadi, the mortician at the government hospital in the city, agrees. He's processed 100 bodies -- many of them grotesquely mangled and burned -- and on his pickup runs has been forced to leave behind many more that he can't recover from cars and destroyed buildings.

"It's much more [than the official count]," he says. "There are many trapped under the rubble. The death toll will reach 1,000."

Mr. Shadi was standing in front of a refrigeration truck that was packed with 20 bodies, days after he helped bury 74 bodies in a mass grave. When he opened the door to show the black body bags haphazardly piled on top of each other, a staggering stench came out, despite the refrigeration. Next to the truck stood 40 empty wooden caskets, waiting for new arrivals.

"The last two days have been the worst. Yesterday and the day before, the bodies that came in were completely burned. Charred. It was a shipment of burned bodies."

* * *

Of the dead he's seen, Mr. Shadi says, "maybe 3 per cent" were men. The rest were women and children. "They're not targeting fighters."

206 esther_ar  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 11:46:54am

"Abu Shadi" could be a nom de guerre, or his title - Shadi would be his eldest son.
Abdel Qader is most likely his real first name.

207 Lior  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 1:18:19pm

I don't know if anyone wrote this before, the green helmet he's wearing is an IDF helmet. IDF supported the South Lebanon Army and these guys got basic IDF gear, many of this gear was left in Lebanon after IDF left.

208 Joshua Godinez  Thu, Aug 10, 2006 1:44:16pm

This guy makes me want to throw up.


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