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By: Charles Johnson • Aug 16, 2006 at 2:25 pm PDT

I’ve read about the alliance between Adolf Hitler and Muslim Arab leaders in World War II, and seen still photographs, but this is the first time I’ve seen actual video of Hitler meeting with the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini—Yasser Arafat’s alleged uncle. From a German TV documentary, with English subtitles. (Hat tip: Justify This, who also created the Azzam Tamimi “shrieking jihad” video.)

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1 zombie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:30:15pm

Fantastic!

2 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:31:04pm

And they claim that islamic antisemitism is an import from the West. Here's evidence that if anything, it's the other way around.

3 zombie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:31:13pm

YouTube, coming out of left field, is completely changing the mediasphere as well. As today has so amply proven already!

4 alegrias  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:31:19pm

They'll have to rewrite the opening scenes of "The Sound of Music" to reflect this:

The Hills are alive
with the sound of
Alla Hoo Achbar

Yodel Lay Hee Hoo...

5 ShumBaayaMyLord  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:32:06pm

Charles, I don't think it's accurate to say that Amin al-Husseini was an uncle of Yasser Arafat. Arafat did have an al-Husseini clan affiliation (and as is known al-Husseini was one part of his complete name), but the specific kinship with the Mufti was I think somewhat less direct than nephew-uncle. During a period of his youth, after his mother's early death, Arafat did live with an uncle in Jerusalem but not with the Mufti.

That said (and sorry to nitpick), there are undeniable connections beyond the kinship-related ones. And it is all to the good that you've posted this item.

6 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:33:20pm
He was a real Jew HATER

There was no ISRAEL then...so he didnt hate the Zionist and he didnt want his land back...HE HATED JEWS BECAUSE HE WAS MUSLIM...JUST AS THE KORAN TOLD HIM TO...Thank You Charles...More Proof Islam hates Jews...Because Muhammad told them too!

7 Doss  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:34:26pm

During WWII, the Mufti broadcast to the Middle-East from Berlin.

8 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:34:41pm

The Kos Kidz should watch and learn. Their hatred has roots.

9 MN_but_red  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:34:55pm

Wow... just... wow. How come we haven't seen this footage before now? We knew about it, but...

10 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:36:27pm

Charles,

The Mufti is usually referred to as Haj al-Amin al-Husseini. I knew about most of this sordid history - what I wasn't aware of was the connection with the Bosnian Muslims. Ironically, Israel took in many Bosnian Muslims to prevent them from being slaughtered by the Bosnian Serbs in the mid-90's.

11 canadianally  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:36:46pm

I have also heard the Baath parties of Syria and Iraq were modelled after the Nazi Party.

Gosh, I love history, and it would be interesting to get some more information on the origins of the Baath Parties and how some of the ole Nazis found their way into Arabic societies after WW2.

12 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:38:13pm

Waahhh Charles

I sent you this video about a week or two ago...
You should read my mail...
it's always good!

;~P

13 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:38:13pm

Fallacci refers to having seen the Hitler/Mufti footage in The Force of Reason.

Can any German lizards clue us in as to what t.v. program this is? They do a fantastic job... even point out the insanity in the Hamas charter, which I've never seen detailed on US television.

14 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:38:23pm

#7 Doss 8/16/2006 02:34PM PDT

During WWII, the Mufti broadcast to the Middle-East from Berlin.

Hi Doss

Hitler chose to fight Russia instead of taking up the offer of an alliance and fighting the British in Iraq..

15 canadianally  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:38:29pm

#7

I wonder if any of these broadcasts to the Middle East were preserved or translated.

16 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:39:07pm

Sadly, the modern Democrat party is turning into the National Socialist Party of yore.
(Thanks to Soros et al.)

17 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:39:10pm
5 ShumBaayaMyLord 8/16/2006 02:32PM PDT
Charles, I don't think it's accurate to say that Amin al-Husseini was an uncle of Yasser Arafat. Arafat did have an al-Husseini clan affiliation (and as is known al-Husseini was one part of his complete name), but the specific kinship with the Mufti was I think somewhat less direct than nephew-uncle. During a period of his youth, after his mother's early death, Arafat did live with an uncle in Jerusalem but not with the Mufti.

That said (and sorry to nitpick), there are undeniable connections beyond the kinship-related ones. And it is all to the good that you've posted this item


[Link: www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com...] [Link: ninthstate.net...]

18 The Monster  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:39:49pm

Charles, you (and anyone who thinks it will help) have my permission to use this 'flag'to help illustrate the point.

19 RedPepper  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:39:51pm

Ah, tradition! Ain't it grand!

/s

20 zombie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:40:00pm

Wow! ! ! !

I just watched the whole thing.

TOTALLY DEVASTATING.

Shows that modern Islamism and the Palestinian movement are the DIRECT descendent of Nazism.

Not the metaphorical descendent, but the ACTUAL descendent.

Send this link to every moonbat and Palestinian supporter you know.

The one they can't tolerate is being called Nazis.

This proves that's exactly what they are.

21 Abu Maven  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:40:44pm

This is a really important video. I discovered it a few weeks ago and then began desperately "spamming" LGF threads hoping that Charles would create a thread dedicated especially to it.

I am glad to see this has now happened. Don't miss this one.

22 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:40:58pm
23 Liz Ard  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:41:21pm

I think we should simply give in to the trend and blame the jooos

/temporary insanity

24 Orbit Rain  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:42:51pm

...anyone have a problem with killing fascists who want to murder and/or enslave?

...we're coming for Ahmadinejad...

keep blustering, makes it that much easier

:-)

25 Lightspede  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:43:31pm

Wow...what a video! Nthing like hardcopy video to show just how Islam took their cues from HItler's Germany and how it spread. The Mufti, being Arafat's uncle, had to have a long lasting effect on Yassar. No wonder he was as twisted as he was. All these jihadis need to be room temperature soon...lets hope that someone breaks the 'ceasefire/rearming' soon so that the Israelis can do it righ this time and crush Hizbollah.

(My two cents)...Lightspede

26 zombie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:44:04pm

All the Nazi kikes definitely need to see this video too!

27 mardukhai  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:44:06pm

I knew that incriminating film of the Mufti (ptui, ptui, ptui) existed, but I never imagined that there was so much of it!

This clip appears to be highly abbreviated. I wonder where the rest can be found?

Anyone?

28 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:44:54pm

Next step for Western hard left Pali apologists:

1) "This is all faked/hyped";

and/or

2) "So they are connected to Hitler... so what? Hitler had some really good ideas."

29 observer  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:45:04pm

Jew-hatred (Judeophobia)makes predictable bedfellows--the Hitler-Mufti alliance is old news, the new documentation is stunning.
It's not the occupation, stupid.
Then it was the Bolshevik-Jewish world conspiracy.
Now it is the Capitalist-Jewish world conspiracy.
Today Shaker Heights, tomorrow the world!

And the Left and the media are eating it up.

Except in Germany. Ain't irony grand?

30 19kilo  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:45:07pm

Yes, the Baath party is a national socialist party. Just different name.


When will sixty minutes do a story on this?

31 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:45:09pm

Thanks MEL... ya friggin' freakazoid:

Former Pakistan Intelligence Chief
on Al-Jazeera:
"Israel is Our Main Enemy";
As Mel Gibson Said,
"The Jews Caused All the Wars"

[Link: www.memri.org...]


Wait till he has to do his sit down with Yeshua...

And now back to the very large slab of beef on the BBQ.
Carry on.

32 jehu  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:45:16pm

Chilling! The context of Hitler the SS and then the videos of Ahmadinejad speaking under huge banners and portraits with the same Jew-Hate. It is 1938...but worse somehow.

33 DesertSage  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:45:48pm

I wonder how the rabid little anti-semites over at Koz are going to spin this one?

34 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:46:00pm

This implies that the GM was the agent who brought antisemitism to the Arab and Islamic worlds, and if not for him, everything would be hunky-dorey. I don't think that's the case, any more than Hitler cause European antisemitism. Some things have an historic inevitibility to them.

35 mardukhai  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:46:48pm

#5 ShumBaayaMyLord

Sorry, Arafat was an imposter. His mother had the Husseini surname, so he claimed to be related to the Jerusalem royal family.

Actually, the Husseinis are actually, by Western standards, a mafia clan. Their racket is slumlording, and they are vicious.

36 Sol Roth  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:47:41pm

A German documentary demonstrating the historical link between Socialist/Fascists and Islam. Pigs do indeed fly today.

37 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:47:48pm

#22 American Infidel

That's true. The moustache and hairdo. Unmistakable groupie behavior.

38 Lightspede  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:48:03pm

#18 The Monster

Monster - a more accurate flag I have not run across... Good job!

39 canadianally  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:49:50pm

I had always thought Baathism was a cousin to Nazism. However, I wasn't aware of the extent Nazism influenced movements in the Middle East after WW2. Egypt? "Palestinians"? News to me!

40 Doss  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:50:18pm

#14 Amalie

Hitler chose to fight Russia instead of taking up the offer of an alliance and fighting the British in Iraq..


Hi there (Freddy "Boom Boom" Washington voice)

I wonder why Hitler chose to fight the U.S. and the Soviet Union at the same time instead of taking on the Allies first, and then the Soviet Union.

It's interesting how the Middle East right now is a combination of maybe the three nastiest human ideologies ever to exist - Nazism, Communism, and Islamofascism. There's a direct line from Hitler to the Mid-East, and the Baathists were inspired by Communists like Stalin, and we all know about jihadism. What a rancid mix.

41 jehu  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:50:24pm

34 E2M

True, but people can more easily connect the dots when they see it personified in a single figure at the top of this garbage pile. Something more sinister when you see this in a straight-line descent from the very founders of facism.

42 ted  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:50:41pm

OT: Al-NY Times doesnt consider "Jew suffering" worth mentioning:

Meanwhile, in Baghdad ...

Published: August 16, 2006

As everyone with a television is aware, Lebanon has just suffered through a terrible month, with more than 1,000 people killed, most of them innocent civilians. But Iraq has suffered through an even worse month. Since June, more than 3,000 Iraqis have been killed each month, and the rate continues to rise. While Lebanon is now trying to pick up the pieces, Iraq is falling apart at an accelerating pace.

As Americans debate where to go from here on Iraq, one thing should be clear. Staying the course until President Bush leaves office 29 months from now is not an option. It is no longer even clear just what course America is on. Most of what Washington now claims to be doing cannot withstand the most elementary reality test.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

43 Gmac  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:50:42pm

#33 I doubt they can spin this. Its direct archival evidence that can't be faked.
This is going to leave a mark they can't wash off.

BTW, It was chilling to see the direct correlation of Islam and Nazism.

44 narrowback  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:52:38pm

#28

more likely what you'll hear in response is "Well, Begin and other zionists attempted to collaborate with hitler/the nazis during the war"

i've already had this discussion with moonbats and this is the response I got back

45 Bad Penny  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:52:40pm

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the IT department. I can't watch videos at work anymore.

/back to work, I guess. Phooey.

46 RedPepper  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:53:06pm

#34 E2m: Sadly, anti-semitism has a long, long history ... & in both the Christian and Islamic worlds ...

47 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:53:22pm

Wow!

It's easier to watch if you turn down the sound (you don't get confused whil trying to read the subtitles).

Who is the American being interviewed in the piece?

48 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:53:51pm

#33 DesertSage

Easy. They'll say it dosen't matter. The current generation of palis are reacting to the realities post-1948, and bla, bla, yadda...

/Don't you have your moonbat openings memorized?

49 Doug  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:54:08pm

Drudge has new September 11 911 calls up

50 BingoBunny  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:54:23pm

Islamofacists.. whoda thunk it?

51 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:55:52pm

#46 RedPepper

Correct. These guys (Hitler and the GM) are just passing figures in a much bigger story. They could have and would have been replaced, had they not happened along.

52 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:56:09pm

#49 Doug

I heard one of the calls (a woman stuck on the 83rd floor of the south tower) during a news break in Laura Ingraham's show today. Bone-chilling.

53 uptight  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:56:24pm

German TV uncovered the Al Dura hoax, exposed Green Helmet's stage management and now runs a feature on the Arab link to the Nazis.

German TV rocks!

54 Amos (Zionist Minion)  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:56:31pm

#32 jehu,

Sure it's worse. This time around...

1. They'll soon have nukes.
2. They have infiltrated most of the world, which is not appalled by them like it was by the nazies. Soon they'll either rule or paralyze major western countries.
3. No clear moral compass nowadays.
4. Most MSM leans towards the destroyers.

A short list.

55 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:56:40pm
56 theheat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:56:49pm

Think you'll see this gem on al-Reuters?

Not.

Anti-semites make strange bedfellows. Recall Momma Sheehan at Camp Casey, protesting next to skinheads, and anyone else that joined her freak show coalition.

This is what I mean by the effects of BDS - they will align with anyone and everyone, so long as they are against Bush. In their rabid Bush-hating, they don't discriminate against anyone who feels the same way, so long as that same way is against Bush. You can be the biggest sack of sh*t on the planet, and be for all things evil and bad, so long as you share a hatred for Bush. Right or wrong, good or bad, has no meaning any more.

If wouldn't be surprised if there was a pedophile convention, and they also happened to hate Bush - that they would be embraced by every moonbat and anti-semite on the planet - if only long enough to be useful.

Little historical flicks like this help put it in perspective. I hope it gets some TV air time.

57 journeyscarab  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:57:00pm

Breaking...

Seattle Port Terminal Evacuated in Possible Explosive Find

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

58 Ann  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:57:00pm

Evil in all its forms.

All together in one simple, clear video.

59 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:57:58pm

Charles, on the subject of 9/11, is there some place we can download a large-format copy of the "Have You Forgotten?" poster from a couple of years ago?

I want to put one in the back window of my truck.

60 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:58:00pm
32 jehu 8/16/2006 02:45PM PDT
Chilling! The context of Hitler the SS and then the videos of Ahmadinejad speaking under huge banners and portraits with the same Jew-Hate. It is 1938...but worse somehow



It took Hitler years to kill millions...Ahmadinejad wants to do it in HOURS.

61 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:58:12pm

40 Doss

Was this before anyone knew about all the oil under the sands of the Middle East? I remember that after the war the Grand Mufti of Iraq was tried for War Crimes but was, shall we shall, somehow escaped hanging because of oil?

62 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:00:02pm

#60 storagemanager

Just six days until August 22nd, when Ahmadinejad will give us "his answer".

63 abolitionist  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:00:18pm

That rather (in)famous pic of the Mufti seated opposite Adolf was apparently a still-frame from a film, which I saw in a video a few days ago. (Didn't know that before. I'll try to find it.)

64 hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:01:02pm

OT...OK, who stole the little green football logo?

65 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:01:09pm

#57 journeyscarab

Zolzer said he did not know where the ship originated.

Excuse me? Who are these clowns?

66 ibrodsky  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:01:23pm

Islam and Nazism are complementary ideologies.

Both espouse racism and mass murder.

The similarities between Hitler and Mohammed are also striking.

/Islam needs to be either eradicated or thoroughly reformed.

67 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:02:02pm

#64 hornet

It's a bandwidth conservation measure, since we have so many guests lately.

68 sss111  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:02:24pm

Clearly, the Mufti got his hatred fromt he abuses foisted on the Arabs by Israel.

69 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:02:25pm

“Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: 'The Jews are yours.'”
- Former Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini in his post-WWII memoirs. [1

[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

70 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:03:11pm

64 hornet

I don't have power over the balls.

71 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:05:23pm

#68 sss111

Sarc tag?

Reading your earlier stuff, you must have left it off by accident.

72 ibrodsky  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:05:24pm

There is an interesting theory that it was the Mufti of Jerusalem who persuaded Hitler to exterminate the Jews.

According to this theory, Hitler originally intended to deport the Jews. The most likely destination was Palestine. The Mufti was determined to exploit Hitler's need for oil to convince him to kill the Jews, instead.

/Islam is evil and must either be eradicated or thoroughly reformed.

73 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:05:43pm

#61 Amalie

The GM never had oil. The oil in North Africa (Libya) was known at the time, but most of the gulf oil wasn't. It was also too far to ship at the time. Most of the ME, including the entire Levant (and most of Saudi Arabia, BTW), has essentially no oil.

74 journeyscarab  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:05:52pm
#65 Earth2moonbat

Asleep at the switch.

75 Bob's Kid  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:06:48pm

Wow, that is very interesting. The Germans have really been getting down to business this week, haven't they?!

76 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:07:12pm

All this time the Bush=Hitler canard has been total 100% projection on the part of leftists.

77 hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:09:07pm

# 70...Amalie...That's little green football is missing, not balls! :P

78 Doss  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:09:27pm

61 Amalie

Was this before anyone knew about all the oil under the sands of the Middle East? I remember that after the war the Grand Mufti of Iraq was tried for War Crimes but was, shall we shall, somehow escaped hanging because of oil?


Not sure about when oil was discovered there, but it sure is a shame that the oil had to be over there to such a large extent.

I'm listening to those 9-11 tapes right now and I'm so pissed I can't think.

79 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:09:31pm
72 ibrodsky 8/16/2006 03:05PM PDT
There is an interesting theory that it was the Mufti of Jerusalem who persuaded Hitler to exterminate the Jews.

According to this theory, Hitler originally intended to deport the Jews. The most likely destination was Palestine. The Mufti was determined to exploit Hitler's need for oil to convince him to kill the Jews, instead.

/Islam is evil and must either be eradicated or thoroughly reformed



Had to fix that...the last is not possible

80 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:09:37pm

Except for the link to de Leers of Odessa, I knew a lot about that black-hearted bastard. I hope to learn more.


[Link: www.eretzyisroel.org...]

81 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:10:02pm

aj Amin al-Husseini, who issued a fatwa (Islamic religious ruling) calling on all Muslims to help pro-Axis government in Iraq, became one of England’s most wanted men. In May 1941, a group of Jewish fighters, including David Raziel, the leader of right-wing Irgun (predecessor of today’s Likud Party in Israel), set out for Iraq to assassinate the former Mufti on a mission sponsored by the Churchill administration. The mission, however, ended prematurely when Raziel was killed by a German plane. Realizing the threat to his life, al-Husseini fled to Europe dressed as a woman. [25]

He was officially received by Adolf Hitler on November 28, 1941, who agreed to establish a bureau for al-Husseini which was used to spread propaganda on behalf of Nazi Germany, organize spy rings in Europe and the Middle East, and most importantly, establish Muslim Nazi SS divisions and Wehrmacht units in Bosnia, the Balkans, North Africa and Nazi-occupied parts of the Soviet Union. After the meeting, the Mufti was also named SS Gruppenfuehrer by Heinrich Himmler and referred to as the “Fuhrer of the Arab World” by Adolf Hitler himself. [26]
[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

82 Kevin Shook  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:10:03pm

In his book "The Myth of Hitler's Pope", David Dalin has a great chapter on the Mufti of Jerusalem. He even claims that it was the Mufti that pursuaded Hitler to exterminate the Jews. Why the Allies didn't prosecute him and his comrades is beyond me.

83 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:10:29pm

#72 ibrodsky

What oil? Palestine never had any significant amount of oil. The Germans got their oil from Romania, Libya, and eventually liquified coal.

84 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:11:51pm

#73 Earth2moonbat 8/16/2006 03:05PM PDT

#61 Amalie

The GM never had oil. The oil in North Africa (Libya) was known at the time, but most of the gulf oil wasn't. It was also too far to ship at the time. Most of the ME, including the entire Levant (and most of Saudi Arabia, BTW), has essentially no oil

E2M, you answered my question. If Hitler had known about the vast oil reserves under the sands of the Middle East he might of changed his mind about Russia..

85 Right_Writer  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:13:44pm

An unholy alliance to be sure.

86 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:13:57pm

The Mufti’s hatred of the West was matched only by his hate of the Jews. It is not a coincidence that Germany suddenly abandoned the policy of expelling Jews and adopted far harsher methods a short time after the Mufti arrived in Germany. When Haj Amin came to Germany again, the Nazis decided to execute the Final Solution to the Jewish Problem – the Holocaust. “The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry,” reported Eichmann’s deputy, Dieter Wisliceny. “[He had] played a role in the decision to exterminate the European Jews. The importance of this role must not be disregarded . . . The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry.” [31] We do not know if al-Husseini played a major role in shaping the Final Solution. “There is, however, abundant first-hand evidnece of the part the Mufti played in making foolproof the ban on emigration (of Jews out of Germany),” wrote Joseph Schechtman. [32

[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

87 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:15:40pm

#84 Amalie

Might have, but it wouldn't have been very practical for their military to be dependent on tankers coming from the gulf, especially with Britain controlling the Suez canal. And while Saudi was neutral in the war, they were more in the allied sphere of influence. It's doubtful that the Germans would have been able to develop the fields, and ship the crude. Too many pinch points, where the allies could have (and would have) nailed their tankers.

88 sss111  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:16:04pm

Anyone now doubt that we are going to have to nuke the Islamofascists into submission?

It took Hiroshima and Nagasaki to stop the Imperial Japanese...

Perhaps it will take the bottled sunshine treatment to Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Tehran, Damascus, and Cairo to get these fuckers' attention.

89 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:16:29pm

Think about this... Hitler was expelling Jews.. who might have come to the Middle East...

So how convenient that Hitler was able to reduce the numbers of potential new settlers for the Mufti.

By several million..

90 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:18:44pm
Another future Egyptian President, Anwar Sadat, was imprisoned during World War II for cooperating with Adolf Hitler’s regime. Towards the end of World War II, Sadat wrote to the Fuhrer: “My dear Hitler, I congratulate you from the bottom of my heart. Even if you appear to have been defeated, in reality you are the victor. You succeeded in creating dissensions between Churchill, the old man, and his allies, the Sons of Satan. Germany will win because her existence is necessary to preserve the world balance. Germany will be reborn in spite of the Western and Eastern powers. There will be no peace unless Germany once again becomes what she was.
91 abolitionist  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:18:59pm

#12 BabbaZee

Waahhh Charles

I sent you this video about a week or two ago...
You should read my mail...
it's always good!

Found your post and link to vid at YouTube:
Hitler, The Mufti Of Jerusalem And Modern Islamo Nazism

92 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:19:14pm
#89 Amalie 8/16/2006 03:16PM PDT
Think about this... Hitler was expelling Jews.. who might have come to the Middle East...

So how convenient that Hitler was able to reduce the numbers of potential new settlers for the Mufti.

By several million



That is a stunning thought.

93 sss111  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:19:30pm

#75 Bob's Kid

Wow, that is very interesting. The Germans have really been getting down to business this week, haven't they?!

The Germans don't f*** around for the most part.

I was once in the Staatsmuseum in Erlangen in Bavaria. They had a whole floor devoted to Hitler. And is was not complementary to ol' Adolph.

94 Spiritualized  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:19:38pm
Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: "The Jews are yours." - Haj Amin al-Husseini

Telegram from Himmler al-Husseini:

November 2, 1943

"To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory.

Signed: Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler

95 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:20:02pm

#88 sss111

Sky down, Bigel.

96 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:20:47pm

#58 Ann
"Useless" is back
See bottom of thread:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

97 theheat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:20:58pm

#65 Earth2moonbat

According to the Seattle Times, the container originated in Pakistan, with its last stop in Pusan, Korea.

It supposedly contained oily rags. Who the f*ck ships oily rags? You learn about the danger of oily rags in fourth grade! Who would ship them?

98 The Monster  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:21:58pm

#38 Lightspede

You know how they hate being called "Islamofascists", but love calling us "Crusaders"? I am willing to give them a new name...

Crescaders

99 really grumpy big dog johnson  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:22:48pm

#26 zombie

I wouldn't use that combination of words without attribution. Charles gets enough attacks from people claiming this is a hate site as it is. I know what your reference is, but the casual visitor, along with many others on the site, may not.

Let's clean up the language that could be considered racist and inflammatory, OK?

That applies to everyone, including me. I've been at fault as well, and I am officially announcing that my days of that kind of incitement are officially over now.

/Notice served.

100 ProudMOT  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:23:39pm

Charles,

With the whole faking of photos story in the mainstream media, finally you are getting some of the attention and credit you deserve. Thanks for putting this up here (I mean this link for the video and everything else you put up) for us. I only wish someone would redo this in English to broadcast on US and English speaking TV and cable.

Seriously...thanks Charles!

101 Dave the.....  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:23:57pm
YouTube, coming out of left field, is completely changing the mediasphere as well. As today has so amply proven already!

The old gatekeepers/censors are no longer in total control.

Even little things...'member the Dan Quayle "potatoe" incident? How many MSM sources reported that the teacher hand the VP the flash card with the incorrect spelling on it? Who was that teacher? Was Quayle setup by a member of the NEA?

102 DistantThunder  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:24:34pm

These islamists have been terminators on the job since 1934.

How do you stop legions of terminators?

103 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:24:45pm

If only the was a word to describe the combination of Islamism and Fascism.
/hmmm...(thinking)

104 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:25:08pm

#89 Amalie

So how convenient that Hitler was able to reduce the numbers of potential new settlers for the Mufti.

It wasn't for any oil. There wasn't any. They were just simply kindred spirits. Arguably, the Holocaust cost Germany the war (along with a number of other things), but it wasn't for any percieved tactical advantage. It was just because they wanted to do it.

105 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:25:43pm

Faishislam

106 new2thezoo  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:26:49pm

Things haven't changed very much... just the players.

107 DistantThunder  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:27:02pm
but this is the first time I’ve seen actual video of Hitler meeting with the Mufti of Jerusalem,


However, I saw this in the Obsession movie when it was still on line.

108 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:27:32pm

E2M

No! You misunderstand. No one knew about the vast reserves of oil. Hilter and Mufti were in it to destroy the Jews. But what if the oil had been discovered? Hilter might have decided to send his troops to the Middle East instead of Russia.

109 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:28:08pm

Spiritualized

November 2, 1943

"To the Grand Mufti: The National ...Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory.
Signed: Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler


Satans attempt to stop the founding of ISRAEL.

110 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:28:13pm
How do you stop legions of terminators?

By going back in time, convincing Dr. Miles Dyson to destroy his work, and smashing the last Terminator chip?

111 a.k.a. Will  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:28:16pm

Every time I see something about Hitler and the Mufti, and the Nazi/Islamic alliance during WWII, I wonder if the Arabs really believed the Nazis would consider them equals with the Nazi master race had the Third Reich lasted longer and progressed to its real plans for the Middle East.

Somehow I don't think the Arabs would have been as welcomed as they seemed to think during the war.

112 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:28:28pm

Grumpydog - It dawned on me what you were thinking about re cell phones when I started thinking that the county courthouse makes me turn my phone on when I enter, and the airport inspectors don't. An I right?

113 Doss  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:28:45pm

Digg this story. Whoever put up this story at digg, please posts a link here when you do.

(Should that be "whomever"?)

114 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:28:47pm

#88 sss111
Breath deep...relax...
ahhh (think happy thoughts)

115 Ann  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:28:57pm

#96 EC Marm

"Useless" is back

LOL!

At least he picked a good nic!

We are stuck with the few bad, poseur posters with all of the good posters here.

As in life.

116 Havoc  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:29:32pm

Here's where the still photo's and Documents get a bit thicker with Hussieni and Nazi's

Lot's of Key Nazi's photoed with Husseini and his "Hanzar Nazi/Muslim troops"

Not good enough as usual to fight as a conventional army but armed by the Nazi's to do ethnic "christian village" cleansing in the Balkans.

117 Ann  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:31:46pm

#108 Amalie

Hilter might have decided to send his troops to the Middle East instead of Russia.

He did, but Montgomery and Patton took care of that little Rommel problem.

118 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:31:53pm

#110 Occasional Reader 8/16/2006 03:28PM PDT

How do you stop legions of terminators?
By going back in time, convincing Dr. Miles Dyson to destroy his work, and smashing the last Terminator chip?

:D

119 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:32:04pm

#108 Amalie

I understand, but the Germans wouldn't have been able to use the oil. There's no way they could have built and protected the infrastructure. It would have been useless to them. It would have been too easy for the allies to sink their tankers and bomb their wells.

120 Imam al-Siquf  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:32:10pm

#13 Occasional Reader

The German TV program is "Report München" produced by Bavarian Broadcast. It was aired on July 17, 2006. A transcript (in German) can be found here.

#47 Ward Cleaver

He's not an American but a German professor who teaches in the U.S. His name is Wolfgang G. Schwanitz. See for example: [Link: www.trafoberlin.de...]

121 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:32:54pm

#113 Doss:

Should that be "whomever"?

No. You were right the first time; "whoever" = subject.

122 6patrick6  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:33:42pm

It's about time a video like that showing the true relationship between Hitler and the Mufti came out. It is a bit ironic the a German network produced the piece.

I'd had known about this and had heard things over the past year, especially. It is a good thing to see this out in the public eye.

OK, KosKiddies, deny that! The truth just drives you crazy, and you can't do anything about it. Can't help but like that!

123 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:34:07pm

#115 Ann
My radar is way up, though. He seems to be trying to make personal contact with the people here. Call me paranoid. Todays post have no mention of military. Didn't some nut case in Seattle just kill someone?

124 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:34:12pm

119 E2M

You are right! You are right!

Case settled!

:D

125 wordwarp  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:35:11pm

Somewhat OT, but amusing as hell: Wallace and Ahmadinejihad, Best Frenz 4Ever!

126 mama winger  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:35:41pm

Anyone here think the bad guys are gonna win this?

Not me. Not me.

127 SpiritOf1683  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:36:12pm

Bush tells us that he sees no end to the war on terrorism. This is the same Bush, who along with Condoleeza Rice and a whole host of other Western minions, journalists and newspaper hacks, extended the length of this war and made us much more likely to lose it by tying the Israelis hands behind their backs, and preventing them from destroying one of our terrorist enemies. The Israelis were slandered every time they dared to open fire by a malicious Western press and media with a death wish. These useful idiots willingly became a party to strengthening the hands of Hizbollah, Assad, Ahmadinejad and every other Islamic nutjob who now fancies his chances against an increasingly impotent West. What had been achieved in the five years since 2001 has been completely set back in the five weeks since Israeli troops were kidnapped and murdered by Hizbollah terrorists - on Israeli soil! We are back to square one, but with a vital and all-encompassing difference - our mortal Islamic enemies have discovered a glaring chink in our armour - that we are not prepared to prosecute this war against them with the vigour it demands. They know our media, press, the so-called educated elite and many of our politicians, not to mention the PC brigade that suffocates our society are our Achilles heel. And they are also aware of our growing and increasingly-radicalised Muslim population, and that time is on their side, and that they'll be far better placed in 10, 20, 50 or 100 years time to dump our civilization onto the ash-heap of history - so like the Byzantine and Roman Empires, we will become history despite being infinitely more powerful than either of these empires or the Islamists who destroyed us, we will have fallen in a fraction of the time that those empires did.

128 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:36:39pm

#111 a.k.a. Will

Every time I see something about Hitler and the Mufti, and the Nazi/Islamic alliance during WWII, I wonder if the Arabs really believed the Nazis would consider them equals with the Nazi master race had the Third Reich lasted longer and progressed to its real plans for the Middle East.

As I said, kindred spirits. The GM may have technically been Semitic, but Hitler had a certain odd respect for muslims, just because of their violence and ruthlessness. I think it's the timidity and pacificity that he dislikes most about the Jews. As long as Germans and Arabs stayed in their respective spheres, they would have been ok.

Now if they moved in and tried to take over Germany like they're doing now, that's another kettle of fish.

129 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:36:48pm

113 Doss

Did you pick up the kids from the sitter?

130 cba  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:37:16pm

Distant Thunder, yes, I was just going to say that the same footage is included in Obsession (which every lizardoid should watch).

131 big L  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:38:27pm

4 alegrias- "...Jodl, Him'ler und Hitler too..."

132 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:38:28pm

#117 Ann:

He did, but Montgomery and Patton took care of that little Rommel problem.

I don't think any of that action was in what is geographically defined as the "Middle East". Could be wrong. Anyway, what were our troops doing in Tunisia? Did the Tunisians bomb Pearl Harbor? No! FDR took his eye off the ball! He fought the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time! He had no exit strategy! He had no lucky hat!

133 Ann  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:41:25pm

#123 EC Marm

My radar is way up, though. He seems to be trying to make personal contact with the people here. Call me paranoid.

You may not be paranoid at all. He's coming across way too chummy and over-anxious for personal meet ups.

I have met many LGFers. Married one, even. :-)

I was in no hurry to meet posters on a blog, but there were so many of us in the DC area, it just became a must to do.

I'm suspicious, too. Don't care for misrepresention, even on an anonymous blog. Don't trust him at all.

134 big L  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:42:15pm

This comes out today-great.
Also Stroessner of Paraguay is dead-also good. He was a big shelterer of SS officers and I think whats his name lived there for a while before he was brought to justice.

I really like the german lanquage when describing the Judenhass et al. Wasn't this f*ck Mufti-diver Arafat's Great uncle?

135 Yank in the EU  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:43:02pm

Absolutely stunning video, thanks Charles and Justify This.

On a side note, the openly genocidal comments ('exterminate' or 'destroy' Islam, nuke tens of millions of Muslims, etc. I've been reading lately on LGF are stomach turning. Was reading one thread when a poster was asked directly, "How many Muslims should we leave alive?' and she gave no direct response. I dunno, I guess something happened in the comments section during that long break I took to work - in fact I don't notice reaganite around these days who used to stand up to the genocidal maniacs who post comments.

136 a.k.a. Will  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:43:28pm

#128 Earth2moonbat

As I said, kindred spirits. The GM may have technically been Semitic, but Hitler had a certain odd respect for muslims, just because of their violence and ruthlessness. I think it's the timidity and pacificity that he dislikes most about the Jews. As long as Germans and Arabs stayed in their respective spheres, they would have been ok.

I think if the Nazis had been able to win in Europe and last at least several decades, we'd have seen destroyed cities in the Middle East and extermination camps, and just enough Arabs to develop and work the oil fields under their Nazi overlords. About what Hitler had planned for the Slavs. Everything and every living individual was to eventually serve the need of the Third Reich and the master race.

I doubt they had the Arabs in mind as equal partners with the master race.

137 Ann  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:44:36pm

#132 Occasional Reader

I don't think any of that action was in what is geographically defined as the "Middle East".

Africa, but still "muslim land".

Yes, our troops were spread too thin! It was a quagmire!

138 big L  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:45:29pm

6-sm- Oh no you've got it wrong. Mufti-diver hated Jews because the USA would be in Iraq 60 yrs into the future and there would be a Zionist entity in his neighborhood 12 yrs into the future.

139 Doss  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:45:42pm

#121 Occasional Reader

Thanks. "Whomever" didn't sound right, but some of those grammar rules are not as easy to remember as they were at one time. It's time to start checking this a little more often.

A good poster showing Nazi salutes then and now.

140 mich-again  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:45:47pm

Here is an amazing paper that just came out this week. It goes into much greater detail than anything I've seen on the subject. Wow. link

Islamic terrorism linked to Nazi fascists
Despite some weak politically correct attempts, the fact is there is a radical, heretical brand of Islam fostering terrorism that is indeed a by-product of Fascism and a hatred of Jews.

Monday, August 14, 2006
by Robert Duncan

I wonder if the UMich can get Juan Cole to teach a graduate level History class on Islamic Fascism. He always brags about his amazing knowledge of ME History. This subject would be right up his alley!

/yeahyeahyeah.

141 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:46:17pm

#136 a.k.a. Will

You're right. Once it became apparent that there's something valuable in that desert, then things would change. It wasn't apparent at the time. The bulk of the oil reserves were discovered in the '50s.

142 moishe  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:46:20pm

Whoever at the JWRTWTP HQ (Jews who rule the world through proxy) that put this video together did a great job with this piece.
This is even better than the BK King football clips they have been running in commercials...

143 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:46:33pm

#135 Yank in the EU:

On a side note, the openly genocidal comments ('exterminate' or 'destroy' Islam, nuke tens of millions of Muslims, etc. I've been reading lately on LGF are stomach turning.

Da Big Boss made a statement about this just yesterday.

144 ibrodsky  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:46:47pm

#83 Earth2moonbat 8/16/2006 03:10PM PDT

#72 ibrodsky

What oil? Palestine never had any significant amount of oil. The Germans got their oil from Romania, Libya, and eventually liquified coal.



Hitler exempted the Arabs from his racial theory because he knew they had oil. He categorized them as "Non-non-Aryans."

Oil was discovered in Saudi Arabia in 1936. Iraq started producing oil years earlier and was friendly to Nazi Germany.

My point was not that Palestine had oil, but that the Mufti knew Hitler needed oil and expected the ME to be a major source in the future.

145 big L  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:48:39pm

11 ca-what is weird isthat even with the Baathist-nazi axis, Saddam modelled himself after Stalin. The hat, the moustache, the secret service, ritual killing, appearing on a dais douring a parade. thinking about Nebuchanezzer...
well not the last.

146 gymnast  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:48:49pm

Knowledge of middle east oil goes back to the beginnings of the 20th century and large scale exploitation of the resource began in the 1920s. The Saudi oil fields came on line in the 1930s and gave America entry into what had been up to that time a strictly British monopoly in the Middle East. The need for bunker oil fuel for the British Navy were the reason Kuwait, Bahrain, and the UAE came into existence as British Protectorates. If not for the invasion of the Soviet Union in 1940 (delayed fatally while Germany's air force and submarines attempted to force a British surrender), the Brits would be speaking German. Never trust a corporal over a general staff officer when planning military strategy.

See Beck, Alfred M., "Hitlers Ambivalent Attaché" Potomac Books, Washington DC, for for some insights into the thinking and decisions regarding the US by Germany leading up to Germany's declaration of war on the US a couple of days after Pearl Harbor.

147 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:49:10pm

#135 Yank in the EU
There seems to be an ebb and flow of over-the-top comments. It's has been pretty good lately, but I think we're in a bit of a downward trend lately.

148 big L  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:49:38pm

12 Babbzee- great job.

(bow)
Big L

149 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:50:09pm

144 ibrodsky


My point was not that Palestine had oil, but that the Mufti knew Hitler needed oil and expected the ME to be a major source in the future.

YES!

Thank you~!

150 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:50:52pm

#123 EC Marm

My radar is way up, though. He seems to be trying to make personal contact with the people here.

Doing that on another thread right now. Methinks people need to look out.

151 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:51:00pm

Fun fact: On the eve of WWII, the world's leading oil-producer--hands down--was... us.

152 6patrick6  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:51:02pm

#142 moishe

You mean...he's...NOT the King? AAAHHH!
:)

153 albertanator  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:51:06pm

All this video proves is that the leap from Nazism to Islam is a very short one indeed!

154 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:52:25pm

150 E2M

Looks right at you...

155 ibrodsky  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:52:30pm

Hollywood stars blast Nasrallah

Some 84 movie stars, film industry members sign statement condemning Hizbullah, Hamas activities in Middle East

156 ThorsHammer  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:53:02pm

What kind of mental illness causes muslims to think that they are superior to another group of people (jews), they are the target of a conspiracy of those people and all their problems are cause by the very same people, all at the same time?

It just isn't rational.

157 Yank in the EU  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:53:32pm

#143 OR

Yes, that's an important and calming point to make - that Charles himself does not support the oft-expressed genocidal policy with regard to the Muslims or Islam as such.

I used to send a lot of people to LGF links until recently my friend sent back about 20 cut and pasted comments which clearly called for "destroying Islam" or killing tens of millions of Muslims to get at the terrorists among them. I felt like I had a lot of explaining to do.

158 Havoc  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:54:19pm

OT but Euro Muslim related --

Fjordman had a great article in the Brussels Jornal about the Second amendment needing to apply to Europe.


Read the development of Guns Laws in France, Land of 10,000 burning cars & 80% gang rape in Marseille,

and gun laws in greater EurAbia,

Fjordman Frequently writes about muslim Rape perps in Europe and Gang rape in particular.

Interestingly the U.K. NOW has double the assault rate of the U.S. in urban areas.

It is illegal to carry any weapon, even a small folding knife in England, for self defense.

Good policing having tranformed NYC into one of the safest Cities in the world. Ironic.

"Hate Speach" laws would render any citizen of these poor EurAbian countries a criminal for advocating and lobbying the right of the law abiding citizen to keep and bear arms.

These law biding immigrants and native citizens of California -- would Criminals in Official Europe.

Oriana Fallaci could tell you about trying to publish this in Europe

In 1938 no one could predict that in five years this little girl would have to fight for her life

Can you predict what's in store for your children ?

159 Doss  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:54:31pm

129 Amalie

Did you pick up the kids from the sitter?


Never had to get a sitter. A couple of those Jehovah's Witness people came around tryin' to convert me. I told 'em the kids were real interested in the religion, brought the kids out for some Bible study, and snuck out the back door.

160 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:54:45pm
156 ThorsHammer 8/16/2006 03:53PM PDT
What kind of mental illness causes muslims to think that they are superior to another group of people (jews), they are the target of a conspiracy of those people and all their problems are cause by the very same people, all at the same time?

It just isn't rational.



THE KORAN

161 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:55:07pm

#144 ibrodsky

But the production levels were nothing like now, and they had no reliable and secure way to get the crude to Germany. It was simply too far, and had to pass through too many choke points.

Iraqi crude was a different story, because it could be pipelined to Turkey, but it was just a supliment, not enough to supply a wartime economy.

Of course, that doesn't mean that the hair-brained corporal didn't think it was a good idea.

162 Sarah D.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:55:27pm

#127 SpiritOf1683

This is the same Bush, who along with Condoleeza Rice and a whole host of other Western minions, journalists and newspaper hacks, extended the length of this war and made us much more likely to lose it by tying the Israelis hands behind their backs, and preventing them from destroying one of our terrorist enemies.

How exactly did they do that? And was that before or after the expedited bomb shipments we sent to Israel?

What had been achieved in the five years since 2001 has been completely set back in the five weeks since Israeli troops were kidnapped and murdered by Hizbollah terrorists - on Israeli soil! We are back to square one, but with a vital and all-encompassing difference - our mortal Islamic enemies have discovered a glaring chink in our armour - that we are not prepared to prosecute this war against them with the vigour it demands.

Get a grip. There's a whole lot of enemies taking dirt naps right now.

163 Connecticut Yankee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:00:56pm

In other news about the Arafat family, the Fish's grieving widow has remarried. Looks like Kerry isn't the only international boy-toy any longer:

Suha Arafat, widow of Yasser Arafat, secretly married Lahasn al-Trabulsi, the brother-in-law of the Tunisian president, a number of days ago, a Tunisian website reported.

The marriage followed a wave of stubborn rumors in Tunisia, according to which al-Trabulusi planned to marry Suha's sister. However, credible sources said that he divorced a few months ago to marry Suha and not her sister, and that one of the main reasons for the wedding is that is his interest in Suha's large fortune.

Two years ago, after Arafat's death, Suha was personally promised by Mahmoud Abbas' staff that she would receive USD 22 million a year, on the basis of an agreement Arafat himself sent his wife while on his death bed – USD 11 million to cover her lifestyle in Paris for half year.

Abbas and Palestinian senior figures were forced to come to a deal with Suha, after she "created facts on the ground," in accordance with French law, and prevented PA members from visiting Arafat as he was dying, or to take decisions on disconnecting the life support machine, until she received her promise. PA senior figures concluded it was worth paying her and ending the episode.

The money given to Suha comes from the "secret fortune" of the PA, managed personally by the PA president. The fortune is worth around USD four billion, and is kept in a number of bank accounts – in Tel Aviv, London, and Zurich.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

164 Ann  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:01:27pm

#157 Yank in the EU

I used to send a lot of people to LGF links until recently my friend sent back about 20 cut and pasted comments which clearly called for "destroying Islam" or killing tens of millions of Muslims to get at the terrorists among them. I felt like I had a lot of explaining to do.

Which is why reaganite does not post here anymore.

Irrationality, emotionality and quick "Final Solutions" have taken a foothold here.

But from what I understand, all voices should be heard.

It's Charles' house, and it's a big one to keep clean now. Calling some of the posters on their vileness was seen as bickering, so they are free to just rant their insanity now.

Sad.

165 mich-again  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:01:28pm

from the link I posted in 140

Dr. Matthias Küntzel quotes Klaus Gensicke who claims that "The Mufti himself admitted that it was entirely due to the money contributed by the Germans that allowed him at that time to carry out the uprising in Palestine."

Amazing symetry today. Nasrallah is the rabble rouser leading the troops on the Jew-killing rampage while Iran sits back and bankrolls the operation.

Ahmadinejihad thinks of Arabs as low-class animals, based on the way his own Government treats Iran's Awahzi Arabs, but Arabs will do fine for killing Jews, so he'll bankroll the killers and root them on. Likewise, Hitler saw his own race as superior, but was more than happy to contract out Jew-killing to Arabs.

As for the physical similarities between Hitler and Ahmadinejihad, they are striking.

History repeats itself. But only if we let it.

166 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:01:28pm

159 Doss 8/16/2006 03:54PM PDT

129 Amalie

Did you pick up the kids from the sitter?

Never had to get a sitter. A couple of those Jehovah's Witness people came around tryin' to convert me. I told 'em the kids were real interested in the religion, brought the kids out for some Bible study, and snuck out the back door

Doss!

The last time you did that the kids became Hari Krishnas!

167 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:02:23pm
Iran's supreme leader leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei tells Hezbollah leader that his 'victory' over Israel was a victory for Islam...
Quotes from Osama bin Laden:

"We should fully understand our religion. Fighting is a part of our religion and our Sharia [an Islamic legal code]. Those who love God and his Prophet and this religion cannot deny that. Whoever denies even a minor tenet of our religion commits the gravest sin in Islam."


Iran Focus

Tehran, Iran, Aug. 16 – Iran will launch a new round of war-games later this week, putting on display new Iranian-make armaments, a top military commander announced on Wednesday.

The military exercises involving land and air combat forces will begin Saturday in several border provinces where anti-government protests have been most rampant.

“We must show the enemies the Islamic Republic’s military capability”, the deputy commander of the regular armed forces, Brigadier General Mohammad-Reza Ashtiani, told reporters.

Ashtiani said that the manoeuvres, code-named “Zolfaghar”, will be in support the policies of the government and in particular the Foreign Ministry, a possible reference to the military’s backing for the theocratic state’s nuclear program.

He specifically mentioned the provinces of East and West Azerbaijan, Khorassan, Kurdistan, and Sistan-va-Baluchestan as regions where the manoeuvres will take place.

Among items which will be put on display in the military drills are armour-piercing bullets manufactured by the Defence Industries Organisation, affiliated to the Ministry of Defence, he said.

Ashtiani said that the armed forces were “ready to thwart” all “plots” against the Islamic Republic, adding that no army in the world could match Iran’s regular armed forces, the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) and its affiliated organs.

Iran has a dual military system with a regular armed forces as well as the IRGC. Both report directly to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Funny all the bad guys say it is ISLAM [Link: www.iranfocus.com...]

168 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:04:29pm

Funny...Iran calls itself the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC...MUST BE CAUSE THEY ARE HINDUS...Naw Islam means peace...SARC!

169 6patrick6  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:05:00pm

#165 mich-again

I thought I was crazy when I saw that, too! But, yeah, the resemblance in physical stature is spooky. And the soulless, empty, hateful eyes.

170 really grumpy big dog johnson  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:05:23pm

#112 Earth2moonbat

I haven't flown lately, but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't.

But rather than that step, they are considering a much more radical and all encompassing solution, which I heard about briefly on Fox News a couple of days ago: They may adopt a policy of NO electronics or batteries allowed on planes, period. Not carry-on, not checked luggage. Not allowed at all.

It's the safest but most painful solution. Companies would step into the void rather quickly to find remedies for this predicament, I imagine.

171 humanity  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:06:07pm

Mufti also travelled to France... and the link is not opened till now...

He tried to get Alsace and other's... who want to make a different homeland... and his policy was to get them at NAZI side... but was unable to succedd

Proves still exists if someone want to take a case study...

By the way... can anyone send this to Ahmed-Bla-Bla... which ask why palestein has to pay for Hitler work... tell him Germany Destruction in World war was the pay they paid... and Then Jews Deserve Israel... as so called Palastein was not bombarded at that time...

Hopefully it will shut his big mouth for a short while...

172 backhoe  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:08:05pm
#59 Ward Cleaver 8/16/2006 02:57PM PDT
Charles, on the subject of 9/11, is there some place we can download a large-format copy of the "Have You Forgotten?" poster from a couple of years ago?

Ward, I realize this is not the requested graphic, but here's one done by an old friend of mine which is quite strong:

"You Promised You'd Never Forget..."

173 humanity  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:08:30pm

#168 storagemanager


Funny...Iran calls itself the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC...MUST BE CAUSE THEY ARE HINDUS...Naw Islam means peace...SARC!

I am unable to get you...

174 Ann  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:12:14pm

#165 mich-again

As for the physical similarities between Hitler and Ahmadinejihad, they are striking.

I never thought of that! We need a photoshop of Ahmadinnerjackt with a little square mustache.

Anyone capable and up to getting it done here?

175 moishe  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:12:49pm

I could swear in the first 45 seconds of the clip I think I saw the ancestor of "Green Helmet"-

I will call him...

"Grey Helmet"

176 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:13:32pm

162 Sarah D. Good afternoon.

President Bush is feared in the Middle East,
Iran and Syria are barking like little dogs because they know the Man is coming to get them.
He got a UN resolution against Afghanistan, and attacked. Then he got a UN resolution against Iraq, and attacked.
Now he has a UN resolution against Hezbollah, and they know he will attack. And killing a few civilians that support terrorists doesn’t bother this administration.
He also knows he has two years to finish the job, Syria and Iran better be on their best behavior or he will kick their asses back into the Iron age.
Hezbollah will break the ceasefire and C-130 gun ships will circle.
Just wished we could still use Napalm on the bastards.

177 moishe  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:14:43pm

Moishe likey the C-130 gunships...

Abu...what is that buzzing sound?

178 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:15:21pm
179 Pastorius  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:15:37pm

Charles,
This video was translated and subtitled by J and the Editrix of the Infidel Bloggers Alliance.

180 Doss  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:16:32pm

166 Amalie

The last time you did that the kids became Hari Krishnas!


You weren't complainin' about that when the TV went out and the little ones entertained you with their Hairy Krishner songs for a couple-a nights.

181 minuteman  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:17:02pm

I’ve seen some of the pix, but never the video before. The journalists imply that the Mufti’s jew hatred was kind of a borrowed thing from the Nazis, which we know is false as the Koran, hadiths, and sharia dictated and implemented over the centuries prove. They also miss out on the part where the Mufti assisted Saddam’s uncle/step father in his coup d’etat against the British installed Hashemite Iraqi king. And they don’t discuss the Mufti’s role in crafting the final solution. But at least they get the underlying connection between Arafat, hamas, iran, hezzies etc and nazi ideology. After all why do you think the palestinians favor the goose step sieg heiling marches? What this of course goes to disprove is the cherished belief held by islamists, arabists and leftists, that the holocaust demands a solely European solution – ie kick the jews out of Israel. Setting aside the continuous jewish presence in Palestine/Israel throughout history and their entitlement to not have to live under sharia law esp post WW2, there are 2 groups of jewish émigrés to Israel. The ashkenazi Europeans – whom the Mufti and his islamists allies bear some responsibility for their depart, and then the sephardics who were expelled from the surrounding arab countries post the creation of Israel and the humiliating defeat of the arabs in the war they started. They are all the arabs fault. These are about equal numbers. For any right of return to be granted to the Palestinians, a similar right would have to be granted to the Sephardic cast outs. That nobody cares about the similar population transfers that happened post WW2 and empire dissolution, India/Pakistan for example, just proves the real issues: jew hatred, or at best, many people are the commies’ useful idiots.

182 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:17:37pm

Protocols of Dkos...
Israel Must Be Held Accountable


This scorched-earth blitzkrieg, primarily and willfully aimed at civilian targets of all types devastated Lebanon's major ports, the Beirut International Airport, much of the country's essential infrastructure...


As will be discussed below, they also are intended to destroy the democratically elected Hamas government in the OPT and legitimate Hezbollah resistance that now has the overwhelming support of over 85% of the Lebanese people including most Maronite and other Christians, the majority Sunni and Shia Muslims that together comprise about two-thirds of the population, and Lebanon's once pro-Western Prime Minister Fuad Sinora. They all are now united against their common enemies - Israel and their complicit US ally.

this is a good one.

183 big L  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:18:15pm

88--sss111- nix on that rough stuff. You have more to say than that .

184 Sarah D.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:18:36pm

#176 ibmkeyboard

Don't forget Kadaffy backing down too.

Just wished we could still use Napalm on the bastards.

Oh, I think that the Death From the Sky we're using now is pretty effective. :D

185 Doss  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:19:49pm

I need to learn Photoshop. There ought to be a picture that has a map of Europe and the Mid East, with Israel highlighted. To the north, put a pic of the Hizb doing the Nazi salute; to the south, put a pic of the Hamas doing the Nazi salute; to the northwest (where Germany is) put a black and white pic of the Nazis saluting. All three pics could have the salute being "aimed" at Israel.

Maybe title it "Lessons Learned."

186 mich-again  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:19:56pm

169 6patrick6

Can you say Napoleon complex? And beside that, both rose out of obscurity to political power by convincing poor voters that they could bring them prosperity.

Both use(d) heavy doses of demagouery and Jew-hatred whenever they addressed their citizens. And you might even say that Ahmadinejihad's alliance with Syria is tenuous and self-serving like the alliance Hitler had with Stalin.

The question is, assuming Ahmadinejihad does indeed follow in the footsteps of Hitler, what did we learn about defeating Hitler that can help us skip the ugly chapters from WWII on our way to defeating Ahmadinejihad, which we certainly will do. I'd just like to go right to the last chapter.

For sure we learned appeasement doesn't work. Yet thats exactly what the UN, the EU and so many others propose.

187 mama winger  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:20:57pm

#182 Killgore Trout

So they're saying the vast majority of the Christians in Lebanon now hate Israel and fully support Hezbollah?

News to me.

188 Yank in the EU  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:23:17pm

#164 Ann

Sad.

Agreed. It was an absolute honor to have had a few exchanges with reaganite, given his incredibly extensive (and dangerous as an EOD guy) service to the USA and the cause of freedom, and also given the positions he defended on this board, as I recall. I am referring specifically to giving advocates of genocide no quarter or to his making the point about the importance of the American military to maintain it's high moral righteousness. Western and non-Islamofascist justice means treating each individual justly where possible; it is the beginning of the end when mass killing of Muslims ever becomes the technique of winning the war. Even in the genocide advocates' favorite examples of Dresden and Hiroshima, this was not the strategy. That extremely high sense of honor and dignity is fundamental to American winning this war against radical Islam in the long term.

189 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:23:26pm

#182 kilgore trout

DKOS is hoping to sign a seperate surrender treaty with the Islamofascists. You know, leave us libs/progressives alone but kill all the rest of the Americans and Israelis Jews

190 republic  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:23:52pm

#127 Spirit0f1683

that we are not prepared to prosecute this war against them with the vigour it demands.

Please be careful to who you refer to as "we"

The leftist Democrats, and leftist judges, and leftists in general, are why the USA has its hands tied in regards to properly prosecuting a war, and anyone ith even half a brain should be able to figure this out.

President Bush stepped in becaue Olmert is incapable of prosecuting a war, and that is the result of the people of Israel voting a liberal into power.

This is why it is vitaly important to elect politicians that are NEEDED, instead of electing politicians that are WANTED!

If LLL Dems gain power in America, there will never be another war faught by them, regardless of the enemy, or the damage that any enemy would produce against America.

The LLL Dems simply will not fight anyone, anywhere, for any reason, with very little exception.

Those exceptions are Jews, Christians, conservatives, moderates, and anyone who tries to live a moral life!

Those, they will fight to the death.

191 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:23:58pm
#82 Kevin Shook 8/16/2006 03:10PM PDT

In his book "The Myth of Hitler's Pope", David Dalin has a great chapter on the Mufti of Jerusalem. He even claims that it was the Mufti that pursuaded Hitler to exterminate the Jews. Why the Allies didn't prosecute him and his comrades is beyond me.

He escaped from the Fwench.

192 mama winger  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:25:37pm

Ann-

Dagnabbit! You tell that military man to get his military butt back over here! Tell him mama said his country calls. Duty, honor, courage.

:)

We miss him.

193 Luigi  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:26:18pm

It is a gift to the free world to have tens of thousands of people see this video on LGF.

Let it be known that Islamic Naziism preceeded the establishment of the state of Israel. The Holocaust never stopped.

Let it be known that Jewish people represent 0.2% of the population of the world.

Let it be known that it is not Jews that are responsible for the problems in the Middle East and elsewhere. It is antisemitism. Jews are not the problem. Antisemitism is the problem.

194 so.cal.swede  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:28:05pm

more and more people opening their eyes...

195 Sarah D.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:28:45pm

#188 Yank in the EU

One of them was saying just recently that the Bill of Rights was the worst thing to happen to the U.S.

Thank God they have no power.

196 big L  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:29:42pm

fascinated by the video- did you hear that the professor referred to Juden Untermenschen in german at one point?
and that Johan Von leers was called a "NS
propagandische"

197 Allah al fubar  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:29:44pm

islam... Hating Jews since 610 A.D. (not since the 1940's)

Its all in the despicable, filthy terrorist manifesto called the 'koran' and its equally abhorrent a-Hadith and Sira.

198 Amalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:29:45pm

180 Doss

But they shaved their little heads, Doss!

199 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:29:49pm

ANN & YANK:

Although calls for "killing ALL muslims" is deplorable...

I don't see what that has to do with this thread or the Nazi's call to "Kill ALL Jews".

I DO NOT DEFEND THE calls to "KILL ALL MUSLIMS"...but there is a big difference between the call to "Kill all Muslims, because of Terrorism" & "Kill all Jews because of..."


I didn't read all your post on this subject but is this the essence of the argument? If NOT, then I appologize for butting in in advance.

200 NuclearTinkerbell  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:30:06pm
201 useless  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:33:19pm

I just saw that. I am sick to my stomach. Realy. Who would like to take bets that the English MSM would NEVER broadcast something like this.

202 zuckerlilly  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:34:49pm

The broadcasting is based on the thesis of “Der Mufti von Jerusalem, Amin el-Husseini, und die Nationalsozialisten “ by Gensicke Klaus more than twenty years ago and the book by Matthias Kuentzel "Jihad and Jew hate" (“Jihad und Judenhass”)


# 22 american infidel

Saddam was a great admirer of Hitler and every time the Germans sold again poisonous gas factories to him, they had to sing to its and for the maintenance of his clan Nazi of songs and to tell antisemitic jokes.

203 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:35:40pm
#88 sss111

Anyone now doubts that we are going to have to nuke the Islam fascists into submission?

I don’t believe nuclear weapons are necessary.
Why, because we destroyed all three armies in a total of 6 months.
Desert storm,
Afghanistan
And Iraq.
And what everybody forgets, we have troops in the Areas and they would not be safe.

The idea for Nuclear Weapons is just dumb.

/the idea for winning Guerrilla warfare is our greatest need.

204 Yank in the EU  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:35:50pm

#199 WrathofG-d

No, I brought it up as an aside that there have been such and such comments. Absolutely no direct connection to the thread - sorry about the OT if it caused confusion. I don't believe it should, however, if you do read the posts.

205 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:36:01pm

Nuclear:

That mel gibson thing is FUNNNY!

But does yours stop 1/2 way?

206 mattm  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:36:54pm

OT

Man Questioned for Buying Multiple Cell Phones

Last week, Holyoke MA Police arrested a man at the Comp-USA store at the Holyoke Crossing shopping area. The arrest came after an employee tipped off police that the man was trying to buy multiple phones. Later police found 300 cell phones already in the man’s car.

207 zuckerlilly  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:37:08pm

Verdammt:

to "his" and for...;-)

208 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:37:51pm

#187 mama winger
It might also be news to you that Hamas and hezbollah are legitimate resistance groups and not terrrorist organizations.

#189 hous bin pharteen
They only fear Republicans, when the islamists takes over they'll all ride around on unicorns and eat cotton candy.

209 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:38:20pm

#91 abolitionist
Why thank you my trusty sidekick! ;~P

210 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:38:51pm
#173 humanity 8/16/2006 04:08PM PDT
#168 storagemanager

Funny...Iran calls itself the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC...MUST BE CAUSE THEY ARE HINDUS...Naw Islam means peace...SARC!


I am unable to get you...



Some here want to pretend that ISLAM itself is not the ENEMY...I was pointing out that Iran and Syria are both Islamic ...They seem to think Islam is at war with us.

211 Ojoe  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:39:25pm

No. 188 Yank in the EU

IIRC, only about 3% of the total Japanese population was killed in WW2. But that was enough to force some very fundamental and lasting changes.

Something similar may be in store, but it is far from ALL.

212 Allah al fubar  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:39:42pm

We've strategically surrounded Iran. Check a map. We know what we're doing. We have them in checque, and right where we want them. All this ranting and raving from Iran comes about because they KNOW that they're in our crosshairs. I believe this was the strategy from the day one taking of Afghanistan.

213 SwampWoman  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:40:37pm

#203 IBM Keyboard

I don’t believe nuclear weapons are necessary.
Why, because we destroyed all three armies in a total of 6 months.
Desert storm,
Afghanistan
And Iraq.
And what everybody forgets, we have troops in the Areas and they would not be safe.

The idea for Nuclear Weapons is just dumb.

Yeppers, don't know why people always want to go nuclear when we have conventional weapons that could produce as many casualties.

214 Ann  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:41:22pm

#188 Yank in the EU

Even in the genocide advocates' favorite examples of Dresden and Hiroshima, this was not the strategy. That extremely high sense of honor and dignity is fundamental to American winning this war against radical Islam in the long term.

I agree completely. His position on this war is no longer accepted here on LGF. We talk to those who have been in the litter box every day, and have some friends who are now deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's going well, but it will take many more years to break the choke hold of intimidation that is so ingrained in that culture.

So many have fled that oppression to come to the Free West, but they are the enemy too here on LGF.

We don't need the tactics that were our only hope during the time of Dresden and Hiroshima. Our Military capabilities are amazing to me, as I learn about them.

Some want it over now.

Not going to happen. And reaganite understands this more than most here. His first briefing on islamic terrorist tactics was in 1982. LGF lost a great resource, IMHO.

215 badger1970  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:41:42pm

Mouth open, jaw dropping. It's not surprising about the hitler and muffy but suprising the German TV could broadcast this so openly. I guess is schroeder was still in power, this may have not been aired. Great clip.

216 jrdroll  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:41:44pm
The Jihadists have shown us how brilliantly they can manipulate for their own purposes something as irrelevant as half-a-dozen cartoons in a Danish newspaper. Thus, it is rather unimportant whether Israel’s destruction is or isn’t their main goal (it isn’t). They seem to have discovered through trial and error that the hatred of Jews is alive and well in the West and, as the Nazis did before, they are using it not only to further their own different goals, but to recruit collaborators and to paralyze whole countries and societies as well. It goes without saying how terrible this is for the Jews themselves, but it is at least as dangerous to the rest of the West that is allowing anti-Semitism to be used against itself. Hatred of the Jews and of Israel is the loaded weapon the Jihadis are putting in the hands of a civilization that’s willing (again) to commit suicide.


[Link: politicscentral.com...]

217 Trey Stone  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:42:08pm

they're related, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're cut from the same ideological cloth. the Mufti was obviously a religious leader. Arafat thought he was leading a "national liberation" movement. no doubt Arafat used plenty of anti-Semitic language, but any anti-Semitic feelings he had were not grounded in fundamentalist Islam.

so i'm not sure how a pre-WWII anti-Semitic mufti is relevant today. i have heard that he maintains popularity with the Palestinians, which is troubling if it's true, but that may just be based on general anti-Israeli sentiment rather than specific knowledge of his actions. hopefully, at least.

218 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:42:16pm

#174 Ann 8/16/2006 04:12PM PDT
#165 mich-again

As for the physical similarities between Hitler and Ahmadinejihad, they are striking.

I never thought of that! We need a photoshop of Ahmadinnerjackt with a little square mustache.

Anyone capable and up to getting it done here?

Per request: One Dinner Jacket

Image: DinnerJacket.gif

219 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:42:22pm

#212 Allah al fubar
Funny you should say that.
I whipped out a map during the Gaza pullout
and determined the same thing...

I also thought that Sharon made them leave
because he KNEW a greater war was coming
and he didnt want those Jews to be collateral damage in Gaza...(which is what is going on right now, BTW) This concept being separate of course from the surrounding Iran concept but both thoughts struck me on the same day...

220 humanity  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:42:29pm

damm...
i heard a lot of times from Muslims that Jews and Christians have corrupted the words from G-D.. and Bible and Torah are not faithworthy... but this page revails something more strange..

[Link: bibleprobe.com...]


One of these, according to Muhammad's wife, A'isha, with whom he resided at this death, was kept under their bed at the time of Muhammad's death, but was eaten by a domestic animal (a goat). When Uthman compiled the Qur'an, the missing verses could not be found

i think they even dont have any real book.. they just crap around a stupid stuff

221 armybrat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:42:33pm

200- tink- that's just damn funny! Thanks!

222 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:43:27pm

Storemanager

Funny how they ALWAYS, call Israel "the Jewish State"...but noone EVER calls Iran...the "Islamic Republic of Iran".

223 useless  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:43:28pm

#202, Zucker

Before we went into Iraq the second time, there was also some relevation that the Swiss banker who had done some personal backing for Hitler, was also supporting the Bath party in Iraq, until he died in the late 60's. So, for my money, the whole connection of the Nazi party and facism in the ME didn't stop with WW2

224 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:43:33pm

Now let me back up on my 203 comment,

If Abnerdinnerjacket wants to play stupid and attack with Nuclear Weapons I think Israel with the help of the US might have the abilty to shoot them down.
Still it would be a hard decision to destroy that many people.

And he, Dinnerjacket knows that is he attacks with Nukes, he will probably kill more Muslims than Israelis.

/Just dumb.

225 NuclearTinkerbell  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:43:38pm

#205 WrathofG-d

That mel gibson thing is FUNNNY!
But does yours stop 1/2 way?

No. I got 100% of the giggles! I'm using a Safari-Mac combo. Try another browser?

226 NoSubmission  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:44:24pm

Former Pakistan Intelligence Chief on Al-Jazeera: "Israel is Our Main Enemy"; As Mel Gibson Said, "The Jews Caused All the Wars"
To view this Special Dispatch in HTML, visit: [Link: www.memri.org...] .

On August 8, 2006, Al-Jazeera TV aired footage of a press conference with Gen. Hamid Gul. At the conference, Gul, who headed Pakistan's Inter-service Intelligence Directorate from 1987-89 and whom, according to the Washington Times, was termed Pakistan's "most dangerous man" by an internal CIA assessment,(1) told reporters that "every Israeli leader has said that Pakistan is their number one enemy," and quoted Mel Gibson, stating that "the Jews caused all the wars."

TO VIEW THIS CLIP, VISIT [Link: www.memritv.org...] .

According to an August 7, 2006 UPI article, General Gul, who is "known for pro-Taliban and pro-Al-Qaeda views, told the media that the United States would attack Syria and Iran next October, and that Pakistan, with its nuclear arsenal, was the only Islamic country that could use its nuclear capability to defeat Israel's designs."(2)

In a post-9/11 interview, Gul told Egypt's Al-Ahram Weekly that he "support[s] the implementation of Shari'a, and we must be governed by the rules of Allah." He also said, "The people who committed this crime [9/11] are inside America, and let me tell you that they are Israelis, not Muslims. Only Israelis can pull off a job like that..." Asked about whether he thought the U.S. authorities were aware of this, he said, "They are aware, but they are afraid of Israel's influence, which is why they are diverting attention to the outside."(3)

The following are excerpts from Gen. Gul's statements during the August 8th press conference on Al-Jazeera:

Gen. Hamid Gul: "From Ben Gurion to Netanyahu, every Israeli leader has said that Pakistan is their number one enemy."
[...]
"Pakistan was established in accordance with the ideology of Al-Madina. This is a widely accepted ideology and theory, because all other ideologies are false. These Israelis know this. When Al-Madina was established, it was established next to [the Jewish city of] Khaybar. Of course, as long as Khaybar was not destroyed, Islam did not spread.

"When Mel Gibson, in one of his movies, played a role that was anti-Israeli, anti-Jewish, the Jews claimed that he was an anti-Semite. That American actor, Mel Gibson, said that the Jews caused all the wars. Now he is being sued. Therefore, all the wars, World War I and II, and others... Even at the advent of Islam, the Jews would incite the polytheists against the Islamic state in Al-Madina.

"The Jews have always caused the wars. Mecca was only conquered after the destruction of Khaybar. Mecca was not captured in battle. This indicates that the war was not against the polytheists. Even today, our war is not against America or Europe. Our basic war is against Israel, or the so-called State of Israel. When Pakistan was established, so was India, but we didn't know that the Jews... [Their state] was established along with ours. It is our main enemy. Pakistan was established in 1947 and Israel was established in 1948. It is either us or them. We cannot live together."

227 madmama  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:45:08pm

OT...wow...Shepard Smith just showed his interview from today of the president of Lebanon, Lahoud.
You guys are always bad mouthing Shepard Smith...but he asked Lahoud some tough questions which of course, Lahoud either didn't answer or "spun" some BS.
Anyway...Shep made his point clear that this guy is full of shit and ended the segment by saying "this is the man that both Condi and Pres.Bush support".
There is no distinction between ordinary Lebanese and the terrorists...they're all in it together.
It was pretty good.

228 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:46:05pm

#195 Sarah D

One of them was saying just recently that the Bill of Rights was the worst thing to happen to the U.S.

Link please?

229 DP111  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:46:51pm

Mark Steyn

Absent a determination to throttle the ideology(pan Islamism), we're about to witness the unraveling of the world.

[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

230 beens21  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:47:58pm

zombie, you are getting famouser and famouser

231 MacGregor  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:48:03pm

OT:

Posted earlier on appropriate (but dead) thread.

Chapelle does Howard Dean

Hyaaaw!

/put down any beverages

232 abolitionist  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:48:49pm

#20 zombie

TOTALLY DEVASTATING.

Shows that modern Islamism and the Palestinian movement are the DIRECT descendent of Nazism.

Not the metaphorical descendent, but the ACTUAL descendent.

Not so fast. There was more going on in pre-ww2 europe than nazism. The Mufti's activities in the middle east, and perhaps in the Balkans, pre-dated ww2 by many years. Certainly the Mufti was in bed with the Nazis, but his hatred of Jews and England goes back to the ww1 era.

Many have heard of Auschwitz. Not so many have ever heard of Jasenovac.

Like the German Birkenau-Auschwitz (Oswiecim) concentration camp and extermination camp complex in Oswiecim, Poland, Jasenovac became a symbol of genocide and mass extermination, an enduring symbol of man's inhumanity to man.

On April 10, 1941, Slavko Kvaternik proclaimed the Independent State of Croatia which included Croatia, Bosnia-Hercegovina and parts of Serbia. The NDH was a Nazi-fascist puppet state created by Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini, ruled by the Ustashi, or 'insurgents'.

Please note: Ustashi means insurgents.

Jasenovac was in operation long before the Nazi death camps.

Carl Savich has written much about the Balkans. Two more related essays:

Jasenovac: The Historical Legacy? The 1995 Ethnic Cleansing and Genocide of Krajina Serbs

Western Media Ignores Serb, US Memorials of Jasenovac Death Camp

233 useless  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:48:53pm

#224 ibm

That's the conclusion a logical, sane person would make. I would agree with you there. We are not dealing with a logical or sane individual with Ahmadinnerjacket

234 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:49:40pm

#224 ibm...


And he, Dinnerjacket knows that is he attacks with Nukes, he will probably kill more Muslims than Israelis.

I agree he knows this, but do you think he cares?

235 madmama  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:49:53pm

By the way, I forgot to mention this...my husband and I saw this film clip on TV last week. I don't remember which channel it was on..probably the History Channel or something. We both thought "wow..who knew!?" after seeing it and we both thought we had seen every film of the Nazis until we saw this. I wish I could remember which channel it was on.

236 Sarah D.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:50:03pm

#228 hous bin pharteen

Here ya go.

And don't miss this one either.

237 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:50:19pm

Dinnerjacket is like a little dog, bark, bark, bark.

We Won,
We Won, We will destroy you, We will destroy you.
bark, bark.

Kick his ass off the porch.

/I dont think he will do shit,
22 of August, except bark.

238 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:50:41pm
219 BabbaZee 8/16/2006 04:42PM PDT
#212 Allah al fubar
Funny you should say that.
I whipped out a map during the Gaza pullout
and determined the same thing...

I also thought that Sharon made them leave
because he KNEW a greater war was coming
and he didnt want those Jews to be collateral damage in Gaza...(which is what is going on right now, BTW) This concept being separate of course from the surrounding Iran concept but both thoughts struck me on the same day...



Iran military to launch war-games as tensions build with West
Wed. 16 Aug 2006
Iran Focus: Tehran, Iran, Aug. 16 – Iran will launch a new round of war-games later this week, putting on display new Iranian-make armaments, a top military commander announced on Wednesday.

[Link: www.iranfocus.com...] .I dont think its a game this time.

239 Ann  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:51:16pm

#192 mama winger

Dagnabbit! You tell that military man to get his military butt back over here!

I'm hoping that the pendulum will swing back on LGF where the rational, calm ones are not shouted down by the nutcases. I'm working on it, but I don't see it happening until this ship rights itself.

We told a Navy Intel guy about LGF on the golf course one day. We golfed with him a couple of weeks later and he said nothing about the blog, so reaganite asked him. He said "There is some great information collected there, but some of the posters are completely insane."

We agreed. And never brought it up again.

240 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:51:16pm

Keyboardicus wrote
And he, Dinnerjacket knows that is he attacks with Nukes, he will probably kill more Muslims than Israelis.


they do not care how many of their own people die.
They worship DEATH.
Far as they are concerned if there is one Muslim left standing they won.
When Iran and Iraq were at war with each other millions died.
No one seems to remember that.
They used "human waves" I think Saddam called them...
just thousands of volunteer civilians, shahid bodies, rolling into battle on foot in waves, the first few hundred yards of them knew they were assured death.

THEY DONT CARE ABOUT LIFE LIKE WE DO.
They just don't.

Looked it up - it is human waves they were calling it:

[Link: www.iranchamber.com...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Have a good night LGF.
See yez in the AM

241 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:52:04pm

#229 dp111

I read that.
Great article

242 jrdroll  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:54:07pm

#230

Zombie Media: Exposing the nihilistic left.

243 zuckerlilly  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:54:45pm
244 useless  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:57:07pm

#243 Zucker..

Sorry, don't speak...um... what is that page in? If you can read it, can you sum it up?

245 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:58:49pm

#236 Sarah D

I read that 5 times and all it did was give me a headache.

/..and no, I haven't opened the Jamesons yet

246 Sarah D.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:01:10pm

#245 hous bin pharteen

That's because you aren't a nut.

247 ronnie schreiber  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:01:43pm
Actually, the Husseinis are actually, by Western standards, a mafia clan. Their racket is slumlording, and they are vicious.

The Husseinis, Nashashibis, Khatib, and Khalidi clans have controlled the Arabs of Eretz Yisrael for almost a century. They were landholders who exploited the poor peasant fellahin who flooded into Palestine as the Zionist enterprise took hold and thrived. They also sold land to the Zionist pioneers, then incited the common folk to riot, throwing the Jews off the land, so they could sell it again.

248 Cartman  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:02:41pm

#229 DP111

I love this excerpt from Steyn's piece:

Modern multicultural man disdains to be bound by the nation state, too; he prides himself on being un citoyen du monde. The difference is that, for Western do-gooders, it's mostly a pose: They may occasionally swing by some Third World basket-case and condescend to the natives, but for the most part the multiculti set have no wish to live anywhere but an advanced Western democracy. It's a quintessential piece of leftie humbug. They may think globally, but they don't act on it.

Describes the Western left to a tee.

249 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:03:27pm
Not going to happen. And reaganite understands this more than most here. His first briefing on islamic terrorist tactics was in 1982. LGF lost a great resource, IMHO.

Ann tell Reaganite I said hello,
from one crazy bomber to another.

Weapons from Vietnam are like stone age compared to modern technology. Except the C-130 gun ships.
I carried so much 20 mm for those guns,
everytime my grandson says reload, on the firing range, I start looking for a tractor trailer to jump into. lol

/The crap our young men and women are having to go up against is just brave.

250 Gordon  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:03:59pm

It appears that not all Germans have become sympathizers with the Arab-Muslim cause against Israel. The makers of this documentary pull no punches in making the links clear.

Anwar Sadat was even pro-Nazi.
[Link: www.britannica.com...]
And he was unusual in seeing the light, at least to some degree.

251 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:04:46pm

If the Zionists were who the Arabs said they were & wanted to do the things that the Arabs say they do, and have the capabilities the world knows they do: These things would have been done already.

252 WriterMom  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:05:01pm

Charles, thank you for posting this video. You are a true friend of Israel and the Jewish people. Not everyone knows about this history.

OT: Disabled IDF Vets Charity Appeals for Help.

I give to Beit Halochem and it's a wonderful operation. You should see the miracles they do in Israel, they give people hope and meaning in their lives after debilitating injuries and amputations.

If anyone can spare some change-this is a really good place to give.

253 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:08:02pm

182 KT
Re: The Kos Kidz

The left refuse to face reality. They hate Israel in the most simplistic way.
The left whine that Israel bombed infrastructure, but Israel had to bomb infrastructure in Lebanon in order to cut off supply routs from Iran and Syria. The left whine about Israel hitting civilian targets. They ignore the fact that Israel dropped leaflets and warned of such bombings but Hizbollah did what it always does - hid among the civilians and shot their rockets into Israel FROM civilian targets.

To this day, leftists don't understand why we bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Japan wouldn't put the gun down! We saved thousands upon thousands of American lives in doing so. But the left still don't and will never, get it.

254 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:09:08pm

Wow, I learned something new tonight. I never knew the links between Islam and the Nazis were so clear. Thanks Charles for contributing to my education.

Makes you wonder how the Arabs can compare the Jews to the Nazis. If the Holocaust didn't happen as the vast majority of Arabs/Muslims claim, then were the Nazis really all that bad? So in essence, thay are saying the Jews really aren't that bad but they still want to kill them all.

Got to love the circular logic.

255 WriterMom  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:10:30pm

#164 Ann

Irrationality, emotionality and quick "Final Solutions" have taken a foothold here.

You are such a bore-and your pathetically lame, veiled insult (IIRC the Nazis were the ones who put the Final Solution in place, not LGF posters) is a disgrace.

Why not quit slumming it here at the asylum and get your own, more progressive blog-free of defeatism and whining whackos?

I'm sure a number of posters would be delighted.

256 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:12:41pm
Far as they are concerned if there is one Muslim left standing they won.
When Iran and Iraq were at war with each other millions died.
No one seems to remember that.

But his people are fed up with war.
Their oil Welfare system uses about 1 billion taking care of the sick and wounded. Hundreds of thousands of legs and arms blown off, and scared to death of gas attacks. I would hate to have their bills for crutches.

He doesnt want war with us, but he would like Nukes for protection.

As I said August 22nd will be just another day in Iran,
bark, bark, bark.

257 Ann  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:12:49pm

#249 ibmkeyboard

everytime my grandson says reload, on the firing range, I start looking for a tractor trailer to jump into. lol

LOL! They are awesome bad boys, aren't they? So did you load them with bobcats, or what?

258 WriterMom  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:13:08pm

And #214 Ann

And reaganite understands this more than most here. His first briefing on islamic terrorist tactics was in 1982. LGF lost a great resource, IMHO.

Looking forward to reading his blog, too.

259 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:13:14pm

WriterMom ...God bless you

260 mich-again  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:13:28pm

218 ECMarm

Nice job. That photoshop really points out the similarity. Its the eyes.

261 6patrick6  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:14:17pm

Aaaahhh, the sound of the Spectre gunships...

The sound of...victory!

262 Bob's Kid  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:14:53pm
All this video proves is that the leap from Nazism to Islam is a very short one indeed!

More like a little sidestep, barely even noticable.

263 6patrick6  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:15:48pm

If you have yet to read a Koran, read one, very carefully.

Next, read your Bible in the same way.

Then, ask yourself which book praises the living, loving, and forgiving God, and which does not.

264 Right Side  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:16:00pm

The video showing the Grand Mufti meeting with Hitler can be seen in the new documentary "Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West."

I wish there was a way for that movie to get televised on a major network--even a cable network like HBO. As many Americans should see it as possible. Maybe Lieberman should mention it in his re-election campaign for Senator.

265 realwest  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:16:14pm

#237 ibmkeyboard -I'm inclined to agree with you in the sense that Dinnerjacket won't have Iran directly attack Israel, or any other "Western" nation, by messing around with the Straits of Hormuz. However the recent round ups of "suspects" or suspicious people buying cell phones in huge quantities, liquid expolosives, etc. does lead me to believe that he might very well have a number of folks who want to be martyrs by blowing up themselves and Americans, Britains, Italians and Germans with them.
IIRC on today's Dead Thread there was some discussion of the "suspicious" people being picked up in connction with blowing up the Mackinaw (sp) bridge in Michigan.
And I woulnd't put it past that squirrley little bastid to sponsor activities such as that, and blowing up airliners and the like.
And, as I've consistently maintained, it would be wrong, morally, politically and every other way I could think of for the US or Israel to use Nuclear Weapons first. I'm NOT in favor, and never have been, of "killing all muslims" and most of the folks I'm friends with here at LGF feel the same way. Yes we have our crackpots but so did the "old" LGF (remember Bigel?) and I'm just a little weary of people complaining that LGF has turned into a site that advocates genocide.

266 Dave the.....  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:17:36pm

I finally had a chance to watch the video and read most of the posts...

Can't add much to what was said, but just need to say that the knowledge of LGFers on history and geography is large. And the links as always are very useful.

267 useless  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:17:41pm

jet

My grandfather was an American Nazi converet. He always said that the jooos made up the Holocaust. I just can't see how anyone can, in their mind, when presented with the facts, say this. We had a Holocaust survivor come to my 6th grade class and tell us about it. I had heard of it from my grandfather, but I don't think the rest of the kids even grasped what she talked about. The world looks to the US support of teh jooos as a terrible thing, but dammit! The world owes those people of Israel. We have a debt that can't be removed with words, and should never be ignored due to convenient politics.

268 Quella  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:19:34pm

I have seen this before, but...WOW.

*shakes with anger*

This documentary just makes it all the more clear to me what a repellent ideology Islamofascism is, and that we are hated for merely existing.

Asking "why they hate us" is about as smart as asking why Hitler hated the Jews. It's the exact same ideology.

The fact that LLL appologists are tied to Islamofascists is unspeakable.

Truly pukalicious.

I am putting this video on my blog - it HAS to get disseminated!

269 _remembertonyc  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:19:39pm

Eye opening stuff ...

270 Charles  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:19:47pm

realwest: you're not the only one who's tired of the complaining.

271 quark2  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:20:28pm

Gingrich was just on Oreilly, and talked about
the parallels of todays islamfacists and hitler
, the nazis of the 1930s.
He asked Oreilly how many times do we have to
be told bluntly by the islam extremists they hate us and want us all dead?
He also charged the one sided reporting by the media of Israels One Million refugees during this last skirmish with hizbollah that was not touched.

272 Sarah D.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:20:34pm

#255 WriterMom

Speaking of hypocrites.

273 Ann  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:21:35pm

#255 WriterMom

Why not quit slumming it here at the asylum and get your own, more progressive blog-free of defeatism and whining whackos?

Because LGF has standards that should be upheld. In my opinion, of course. This is Charles' house and how he handles debate here on the solution to our common enemy is his choice.

Our Government and Military has access to so much more information than any of us here do, obviously. Yet our leaders get trashed here because they don't know what they are doing. That outlook is silly and irrational. And emotional and hysterical.

I'm sure a number of posters would be delighted.


I rest my case.

274 mich-again  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:21:49pm

WriterMom

I'm sure a number of posters would be delighted.

Let me guess. The defeatists, the shriekers, the chicken-littles, and the ankle biters. Oh and the nukem all before its tooo late crowd.

Get lost.

275 RedPepper  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:22:16pm

#256 ibmkeyboard:

He doesnt want war with us, but he would like Nukes for protection.

It would be reassuring to believe that.

I remain skeptical. (understatement!)

276 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:24:02pm

Realwest:

Speaking of the "old" LGF. (which I might not even belong)

Have you read LGF posts lately? Who are all these "new" people? I have no thoughts of them good or bad..its just that...

I don't recognize but 6 of about 50 posters.

Well anyway. WELCOME ALL.

277 useless  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:24:22pm

Real,

What about the use of bunker busters? I know that the use of nukes is a moral binary. It is right or wrong, no gray area. But, that was before such things as these bunker busters. If one were to be used, say to take out Iran's nuke facility, do you think it would green light retaliation? The issue with using them to me seems justified (if the stories be true) about how far down and how hardend these bunkers are.

278 Charles  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:24:26pm

And Ann, by the way, your "final solution" comment was exceedingly tasteless and offensive.

At this point, I'd be much happier if you found somewhere else to post comments. Your only contributions here are these negative sniping remarks. If you object so much to the comments at LGF, don't read them. Please.

279 easy  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:25:14pm

#232 abolitionist
I'm glad someone finally brought this to light. During the more recent conflict there was a lot of wrong done by all parties, but the Croatians had a very effective PR operation and the "Muslims", or ethnic Turks if you will, really didn't need one.

To highlight your link's data relative to your point:

So the U.S. State Department acknowledged that 220,000 persons had been killed in the Stash concentration camps by December 1943

Serbs that is.

280 Quella  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:25:56pm

Charles #278:

Thank you for posting this, just thank you.

And this site is called a "hate site" for speaking the truth.

That is the sad state of PC-bullshit that our nation has been reduced to.

It's enough to make one cry.

281 godfrey  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:26:03pm

This is amazing video.

Does this mean that, in the Arab world, WWII was never really over?

282 zuckerlilly  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:27:28pm

Strange Allies
George Michael's "The Enemy of My Enemy" details the unlikely alliance between militant Islam and the extreme right.
by Daveed Gartenstein-Ross

FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, there have been rumblings among terrorism analysts about an unlikely alliance between Islamic radicals and the neo-Nazi far right. This union seems counterintuitive on the surface: The far right tends to see Muslims as racially inferior, while Islamic radicals disdain most members of the far right as infidels. However, the immediate urgency of a shared enemy can sometimes take precedence over long-term differences. In his new book The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right (University Press of Kansas 2006), University of Virginia professor George Michael argues at length that this is now the case for certain factions within the far right and radical Islamic movements.

In reality, this peculiar convergence of interests isn't new. There have been four distinct phases of cooperation between militant Islam and the extreme right, stretching back to Germany's Third Reich and World War II. During this time, much of the Muslim world sympathized with the Axis alliance, and Muslim Brotherhood members even prayed for the defeat of the Allies during their meetings.

Michael notes that the Muslim world's sympathy with the Axis alliance was "best exemplified by the cordial relationship between Hitler and the grand mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini." Although al-Husseini's followers had already been involved in one anti-Jewish rampage by 1922, the British appointed him grand mufti that year. During the 1930s, as the Nazi government implemented a number of ordinances abridging the rights of Jewish citizens, al-Husseini lent his
support to the German project and requested reciprocal assistance in his

own fight against the Jews. Eventually, as World War II progressed, al-Husseini helped organize a Bosnian Muslim division of the Waffen SS, and propagandized for the Nazi cause by writing an anti-Semitic tract entitled Islam and the Jews.

The second phase of cooperation between militant Islam and the extreme right began after Hitler's defeat. As Nazi Germany crumbled, Hitler's erstwhile officers had to flee to new homes lest they face prosecution for their role in the regime's atrocities. Given the Muslim world's support for Germany, it was natural that many of Hitler's men went to the Middle East. There, out of work Nazis proved useful to their host countries by helping develop their militaries and intelligence agencies.

After Gamal Abdel Nasser became Egypt's president, for example, a number of Nazis were given prominent positions in his government. Nazi commando Otto Skorzeny trained thousands of Egyptians in guerilla and desert warfare, and even organized early Palestinian terrorist forays into Israel and the Gaza Strip in the mid-1950s. Johann von Leers, who had been a high-ranking assistant to Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels, produced material for Nasser attacking the United States and Israel. Von Leers even converted to Islam during this period, adopting the name Oman Amin von Leers. Corresponding with a fellow fascist, von Leers opined that "if my nation had got Islam instead of Christianity we should not have had all the traitors we had in World War II."

via counterterrorismblog

283 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:27:47pm

WriterMom,

You are a wise woman.

Somehow, you need to convince all Jews it is in their best interests to do what is necessary, public opinion be damned. Don't ever let the leaders of Israel base their strategy on what the world thinks again. Fool you once shame on us - fool you twice, shame on you.

And this is one American who adamantly supports Israel no matter the enemies we make and no matter cost because frankly, even most Americans don't understand the ramifications.

Tell your fellow Jews that there are many of us that feel that way. We may appear to be sitting on the sidelines because most aren't vocal like myself. Believe me, Israel has many friends here in the U.S. A silent majority, I believe. We understand what is going on and offer our condolences, support, prayers, and if need be, our assistance in standing shoulder to shoulder with the Jews of Israel.

284 Charles  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:27:57pm

And because I don't want this topic, about a very serious subject, to be dragged into the gutter by another endless round of personal bickering, it's now closed.


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