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Desecration of Israeli Bodies by Lebanese Villagers

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 4:54:50 pm PDT

In this Future TV (Lebanon) propaganda piece about a Hizballah stronghold in southern Lebanon, villagers are seen dumping body parts out of duffel bags—from IDF soldiers, they claim—and desecrating them, stepping on them and holding them up for Future TV’s camera.

The words that come immediately to mind are “appalling savagery.” And it’s broadcast to the Arab world, with an Orwellian narrative about resistance and victory. (From Link TV - Mosaic, August 15, 2006.)

Warning. Highly disturbing and graphic footage.

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1 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 2:56:46pm
2 MoonbatBane  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 2:59:15pm

After seeing that (only could stomach part of it), my conclusion is that there are NO civilians in that part of the country.

/spit

3 Missouri Boy  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 2:59:30pm

And Israel stopped because of CIVILIAN DEATHS? There are no civilians in iSlam
*spit*

4 Helen  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:00:11pm

Re-inventers of reality. These people are pitiful. The sad part of it is that they believe their rhetoric rather than the reality on the ground.

Olmert should've leveled southern Lebanon, house, tree, grass.

5 sss111  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:02:12pm

It occurs that each and every LGF story can serve as material to be used in posters, mailings, placards, etc. in upcoming elections.

6 nervous  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:02:24pm

The left sings to Mercy Me, while the past seems to repeat itself. I can not understand how people try to deny the evil.

7 sss111  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:03:51pm

By the way, this footage is an excellent demonstration for all too see of the moral depravity of Islam and the belief in the sanctity of life in Judaism, Christianity and most of the non-monotheistic religions as well.

8 lowandslow  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:03:57pm

One more time, civilians my ass.

9 SlothB77  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:04:13pm

well, they desecrate the bodies of their own and they strap bombs on their children, so this is par.

how is that cease-fire going Ehud Carter?

10 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:04:37pm
11 anthean  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:04:42pm

At one time I didn't believe there was a devil. I do now.

12 Model4  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:04:45pm
In this Future TV (Lebanon) propaganda piece

But, but... the people of Lebanon are just innocent children who have been hijacked by HizbAllah, just as Islam, a Religion of Peace-TM has been highjacked by a tiny minority of extremists. So surely broadcasting this to Lebanese Muslims is self-defeating, as they want nothing to do with this bigoted savagery.

Islam teaches hatred, barbarism, violence and totalitarianism. Muslims believe in the teachings of Islam. It remains a challenge for the reader to come up with convoluted explanations why all the facts he knows can be discarded. Just have to snort enough "Nah, they really don't mean what they're saying and doing, right?" pixie dust to addle your brain to the proper level of self-delusion.

There's no place in my world for this death cult. And no place in it for those who provide it aid and comfort.

13 storagemanager  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:05:13pm

They are not human...nothing more then wild animals who walk like men.

14 sloggin420[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:05:33pm
15 Bad Penny  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:07:12pm

NHI

16 Catttt  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:07:31pm

I seriously doubt the body parts are IDF, but that's irrelevant.

What is relevant is that these people are missing the basic elements of what the rest of the world calls "civilization" and "humanity" - and they don't even understand this. They think they are just cool as all hell, desecrating corpses.

Humanity has been edited out by Islamism - and I doubt it can be put back.

17 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:08:06pm

2 Words

Total War

They love to celebrate when we suffer civilian casualuties, I wont shed a fucking tear for theirs.

18 jester6  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:09:25pm

I've read many times that wars happen because each side severally misjudge the other. Judging by what I see today I think the theory is right.

These barbarians think they are pushing back a pendulum. What they are doing is compressing a spring. The more energy they use to compress it, the more energy that will be released when it finally lets go.

May God have mercy on them when the spring snaps back because the unwashed masses of the West will not... no matter what the post-modern-transnational-intellectual-elites in the MSM and Universities and Think Tanks recommend.

The longer it takes for this war to get really hot, the more energy will be put into the spring

19 StarsandStripes  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:09:29pm

Evil on parade. Sick.

20 storagemanager  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:09:39pm
16 Cattt 8/17/2006 05:07PM PDT
I seriously doubt the body parts are IDF, but that's irrelevant.

What is relevant is that these people are missing the basic elements of what the rest of the world calls "civilization" and "humanity" - and they don't even understand this. They think they are just cool as all hell, desecrating corpses.

Humanity has been edited out by Islamism - and I doubt it can be put back.



Just like a zombie...the walking dead...no feelings...No Humanity...Hollowed out by Islam.

21 Canadastani  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:09:51pm

as someone who tries to sleep at night, I will skip the video. Based on Charles' description, the words napalm, firebomb, and Dresden all come to mind. Is this some sort of Rorschach test?

OK Israel, you played it nice and the world still condemned you. Play it hard next provocation and strongly discourage this sort of thing.
Same suggestion goes for the US. A shipment of missiles from Iran? Let's return them - individually.

22 jester6  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:11:07pm

I meant severely

23 westoner  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:12:21pm

Muslims behaving like muslims. We Kafirs truly are on the level of excrement to these primitives. No doubt their psycho "prophet" would be proud.

24 hyphen  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:13:28pm

Maybe it's just the poor quality video or my eyesight, but I can't seem to make out the body parts? Can anybody point them out to me?

25 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:13:30pm

If it were me, I'd make sure that every Israeli is properly innoculated, then spread some pretty nasty bugs (malaria, typhoid, encephalitis) in southern Lebanon.

Then I'd make sure to spread a rumor all the vaccines are tainted by an "evil zionist" weapon.

Let them piss and shit themselves to death.

26 Amalie  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:13:30pm

So?

/moonbat logic

27 Cartman  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:13:43pm

Each and every one of those extinguished souls captured in that video purchased a one-way ticket to excruciating eternal damnation some time ago. I would not wish to walk an inch in their shoes this evening.

28 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:14:01pm

Jester6

Actually, May God Have No Mercy upon these swine. May his full Wrath Be Unleashed upon them. They deserve nothing but contempt and harsh retribution

29 mpax  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:15:10pm

I'm sure the Koran gives such behavior a stamp of approval. It's probably required.

30 Cartman  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:15:59pm

#24 hyphen

Maybe it's just the poor quality video or my eyesight, but I can't seem to make out the body parts? Can anybody point them out to me?

Must be the eyesight...

31 jester6  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:16:34pm

#17 Kragar

"Total War" and "Unconditional Surrender" are two concepts the West has used very successfully in the past to defeat many flavors of fascism.

This time we'll add another two word concept invented by the West and aped by these barbarians:

"Nuclear Weapon"

It's like watching a car accident in slow motion. I know how it ends, I know it's going to hurt, and there is nothing I can do to stop it.

32 massachusetts republican  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:17:53pm

I dont see this on ABC. WHY, after all the uneducated dummy Peter J is dead.

33 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:18:29pm

#31 jester6

Accepting surrender from the people who originated the concept of "Hudna" should not be considered.

34 Luigi  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:18:41pm

This is of a piece with their parading the dead before the cameras to gain the world's sympathy. They like the dead. They love death.


Prov.8
[36] all they that hate me love death.

35 mkm19602000  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:18:48pm

#18 jester6

I think that is the best metaphor I have ever heard to describe the situation. The veneer of civilization is thin and if this crap continues it is going to be gone.

#21 Canadastani

I agree and I hope the IDF agrees give them no mercy.

36 Mr. Frank  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:21:31pm

Europeans were that way, too -- about 1000 years ago.

37 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:22:37pm

This country has been avoiding the obvious since 9/11. There is nothing western civilization has in common with these people-nothing.Their mindset is totally foreign to us. It's like contemplating the size of the universe..we just can't seem to get our minds around it. I fear it will take a disaster of monumental proportions to wake us up and the reaction will be one of rage and fury. No thinking, no calcuation, no what ifs and no asking permission of the rest of the world..I don't see it happening any other way.

38 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:23:14pm
39 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:24:58pm

We need to ban the Koran in our country. It's snuff manual.

40 storagemanager  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:26:32pm

GOD BLESS ISRAEL...GOD BLESS THE IDF...MAY THEY SEND YOU TO ALLAH SOON!

41 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:26:43pm

#39 Stuck-in-CA

Yup. Feds had no problems moving in versus the People's temple or the Branch Davidians. Now faced with a cult several orders of magnitude more dangerous, they pussyfoot around.

42 Murqtaad  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:27:07pm

Ridiculous.

Are these the "civilians" we've been hearing about so much?

Too bad the IDF didn't send them all to hell.

Fucking. Psycho. Satanists.

SPIT!

43 Luigi  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:28:07pm

Prov.21
[16] The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.

44 Colt  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:29:26pm

#36 Mr. Frank

Europeans were that way, too -- about 1000 years ago.

Bullshit.

(Warning: graphic imagery.)

45 whiterasta  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:30:21pm

We are sending these barbarians money to rebuild their sick and depraved society?

Dhimmi idiots, us.

My family called me a terrible racist because I would not send money to Pakistan after the last earthquake.

Now it has come to light that the money sent to Pakistan was spent on jihad.

Sorry, no links to back up my reasons.

Canada, my country, is send these barbarians $50 million to rebuild.

Guess how much we are sending to Israel?

46 hyphen  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:30:27pm

#30 Cartman

I've seen pictures of people holding bloody entrails in their hands as they celebrate, but this video is harder to make out. I'm not saying I doubt this happened, but I just can't make out any human body parts, only black charred remains. Can you point them out to me?

47 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:31:24pm
48 jester6  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:31:50pm

#28 Jewels

Maybe I just hope God will be more merciful because I feel guilty for feeling nothing but contempt for these savages. All of them. And I am not too proud of myself.

49 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:32:19pm

41- Kragar

Yup. Feds had no problems moving in versus the People's temple or the Branch Davidians. Now faced with a cult several orders of magnitude more dangerous, they pussyfoot around.


Bring back Janet Reno. She had the balls.

...eeeww.

50 Chief Airdale  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:32:20pm

Couldn't watch. Seething just thinking about.

Burn it all and salt the earth with land-mines!

51 Liz Ard  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:32:36pm

Needless to say, I will not watch the video.

I will not wind myself up so I end up full of hate for the "people" that carried out this barbarian act.

They are their own worst enemy and retribution will be harsh if not swift.

52 mkm19602000  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:33:43pm

#45 whiterast

zip, zilch, nada

Let it be a GD drag on the supporters of Hizb'allah, they started they should pay for the wrath that was incurred, keeping in mind that had the IDF wanted it could have been leveled.

53 Carolyn  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:34:09pm
"Israeli savagery against the Lebanese people"

That's the RoP® for you, only theymatter. I thought they loved death and we like Pepsi, so what's the problem?

54 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:34:20pm

Not much for bible quotes. so I'll go off what I know:

"They have only one purpose and there is nothing they will not do to accomplish this, no matter how vile or loathsome it might be. These abominations mean to destroy everything proud and noble, everything we hold dear and have fought so long to achieve."

55 Catttt  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:35:12pm
29 mpax 8/17/2006 05:15PM PDT
I'm sure the Koran gives such behavior a stamp of approval. It's probably required.

Heck, why not? The Koran not only gives Muslim men permission to rape non-Muslim women (known to Muslims as "war booty") - it gives them pointers and provides a couple of examples of their "Prophet" doing it. In one case, he dug a trench, called all the captured men, and had them beheaded. He and his men then raped the women. Hey, it was ok - they were widows. You can't rape a married woman, but you can make her unmarried, then rape her. It's in the Koran.

And the entire non-Islamic world is Dar al-Harb - the land of war.

Therefore, all non-Muslim women are war booty. Hindu? War booty. Ba'hai? War booty. Christian? War booty. Athiest? War booty. Jewish? War booty. Pagan? War booty. Anything but Islam? War booty.

56 SpartacusDk  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:36:06pm

whenever I see things like this, I revisit this:

[Link: switch3.castup.net...]

57 Carridine  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:36:29pm

As this darkness, this shadow becomes more and more apparent, the Light of Baha'u'llah stands in ever sharper contrast!

These pictured animals are NOT Baha'is!

58 Prester John  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:37:04pm

I doubt very much if the IDF left any bodies behind. They know what the Hezbos would do to them and would do every thing they could to recover their comrades.

59 hyphen  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:37:37pm

#45 whiterasta

My family called me a terrible racist because I would not send money to Pakistan after the last earthquake.

Now it has come to light that the money sent to Pakistan was spent on jihad.

Sorry, no links to back up my reasons.

Here is your link:
Investigators believe alleged plot tied to Asian quake relief

60 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:38:08pm

Evil savage cruel heartless blood drinking barbarians.

61 StarsandStripes  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:39:18pm

Islam should be outlawed in the West. Now.

62 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:41:24pm

# 31 jester6

It's like watching a car accident in slow motion. I know how it ends, I know it's going to hurt, and there is nothing I can do to stop it.


That's interesting. that almost describes the last auto accident that I was in. I was conscious though the entire duration and I actually had time to consciously decide to move my left arm off of the pavement while the vehicle was still moving. (For Minnesota Lizards I spun out and rolled my '91 Ford Ranger onto the driver side on northbound US 10 near the US 169/MN 47 exit in Anoka.)

63 whiterasta  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:42:40pm

#59 hyphen:

Damn, you are the best, my friend. Thank you for backing up my argument with FACTS.

THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU

Much respect.

Man, I love LGF.

I have had my ass mauled here on more than one occasion, usually for being an idiot and for being wrong.

64 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:43:08pm

58- Prester John

I doubt very much if the IDF left any bodies behind. They know what the Hezbos would do to them and would do every thing they could to recover their comrades.

That was my first thought...they are probably doing that to their own dead. These animals are spawn from HELL so nothing is beneath them. Hell is as low as you can go.

65 LSD  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:43:49pm

I'm suprised they don't cook up the body parts and serve to their kids ...

66 useless  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:43:57pm

I'm not goint to watch this. I've been pissed off enough this week about [bigoted word]s. I strongly suspect that they had some proud nationalistic [bigoted word] music playing on this when it was packaged. I also strongly suspect that this will be shown in each and every [bigoted word] school, some time between bombmaking 101 and recess where they play jooohead teather ball.

67 PDM  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:44:19pm

#26 Amalie,

So?

/moonbat logic

We have to learn to respect other cultures!

/:)

68 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:44:58pm

# 65 LSD

I'm suprised they don't cook up the body parts and serve to their kids ...


Dude, please don't give them ideas...

69 Carridine  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:45:00pm

#37 - Bobblehead: Sir/Ma'am, I fear you are right on this, "...response one of rage and fury..."

Much thoughtful, informed and passionate dialogue and research shared and investigated over the past few years, from sites as cogently on-target as Steven den Beste and The Belmont Club...

...who, in recognizing this, realize that the ummah are in for a severe shock, instigated at the hands (from the tongues) of their lying, arrogant and unrepentant 'leaders'!

Karridine

70 Carolyn  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:46:16pm

BTW, Google

Islam desecrating bodies


and you get pages of American troops desecrating bodies. Where are the numerous accounts of muslim barbarity? (Besides LGF and JW)

71 useless  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:46:25pm

#63

Yea, I second that. I love LGF and each time I look at a thread here and think, "Aw, more raning, I'll pass" someone brings more information to the table. These comments are almost as good as the posts. I also think that some of the best minds with the best ideas are putting them out on this blog, so yea, Thanks LGF!

72 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:46:43pm
73 Khoffee_Onan  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:46:46pm

I can barely contain my anger. I was about to punch the computer screen.
It's time to take the gloves off, IDF...
Screw the international community!

74 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:46:54pm

# 64 Stuck-in-CA

That was my first thought...they are probably doing that to their own dead. These animals are spawn from HELL so nothing is beneath them. Hell is as low as you can go.


No. They'll start digging deeper there too.

75 WrathofG-d  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:47:05pm

Hiz is sooo going to be hearing about this from the Left, the "World", the Hague, Jimmy Carter, Desmond Tutu, the Vatican, War Crimes tribunals, the UN, Human Rights Watch, the Red Cross, Muslim Anti-Hiz'b'allah groups, Muslim's against terroism groups, and the like.

They are sooo in for it now...


/harumph!

76 PDM  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:47:25pm

#65 LSD,

I'm suprised they don't cook up the body parts and serve to their kids ...

I'd never expect them to cook it.

77 hyphen  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:47:37pm

#63 whiterasta,

np

Another link for you:
India Times

If the left hook doesn't get 'em, the right will. ;)

78 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:47:37pm
79 MARKX  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:50:04pm
#4 Helen

Olmert should've leveled southern Lebanon, house, tree, grass.

Yes, the IDF should have leveled everything south and east of Beirut. But Olmert is the wrong "man" for the job.

This cease-fire is just a pause. I pray the lull before the storm. Next round -no quarter for anyone.

LAY. IT. TO. WASTE.

80 useless  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:50:17pm

#76 PDM

No, they can cook it. First, they just have to wait long enough for a car to get bombed and there should be pleanty of fire.

Since they apparently have not yet mastered the ability to use a garbage can, fire making is still a little more advanced.

81 Carridine  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:50:23pm

#78 - Infidel: No, Ma'am, possibly because they sense, down deep inside, that these body parts are 'comrades', not Jeeewwws...

82 whiterasta  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:52:55pm

#77 hyphen:

Thank G-d, none of my hard earned, over taxed money was part of that scam.

It will be a cold day in hell, before any muslim gets a penny of my money.

83 Carolyn  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:53:16pm

These are supposedly the body parts of IDF who "fled the battlefield into houses", I don't believe that one for a second.
They talk about " war booty" F'n land pirates.

84 Murqtaad  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:53:42pm

AI 78

Were these 'people' chanting ALLAHU ACKBAR while doing their show?!?

Of course, it's SOP for these fucking animals.

Time to put the rabid dogs down.

85 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:54:00pm
86 WrathofG-d  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:54:09pm

Hey Guy in Video:

Mr. Chatterbox how long will you live?
Always to receive but never to give
Always carry news all over the place
Mr. Chatterbox you are a big disgrace
You cheek and you tounge
A go let you down
And a when them let you down
We a go batter you around
Bif, baf, boof, those are the blows you're gonna get
Mr. Talkative, I know you will regret.
-Bob Marley.

87 WrathofG-d  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:54:51pm

oh yea...& an "Allah Crackwhore" on your way out.

88 troonbop  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:55:13pm

This is the sort of behaviour that is used in horror films, fictional horror films. And it's real. I wonder how much attention the various propagandists in the msm will provide for this? Silly question.

89 bluestater  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:55:44pm
#40 storagemanager

GOD BLESS ISRAEL...GOD BLESS THE IDF...MAY THEY SEND YOU TO ALLAH The seventh level of hell SOON!


ahhh, that's better!

What's the difference? Allah/devil - same sh!t, different term.

90 new2thezoo  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:55:58pm

The only word that comes to mind is demon-possessed.

91 reader  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:56:20pm

Giving or showing Islam any respect is the absolute worst thing you can do, as it allows this sick, evil ideology to perpetuate itself, to strengthen and grow, in the minds of Muslims (newsflash for some who still may not be in the know: Muslims are not as secure in the veracity of their faith as you may think or as they lead on). This is one thing I wish our leaders, whether political or cultural, at least understood. They have no idea that by continually giving Islam credence, by allowing it to sit at the table of the world's "great religions", by continually showing deference to Islam, instead of questioning it and exposing its teachings, beliefs, and practices, and by not revealing or even allowing discussion of the verses of the Koran, they are unwittingly feeding a voracious monster, allowing it to grow ever stronger, as those Muslims who may be inconsistent and questioning in their faith one day, can become renewed Muslims the next, fully committed to the jihad that commands Islam rule the world.

Take the time to tell people others Islam. If not for your sake, then for your children, and their children.

92 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:57:07pm

#62 The Other Les

For Minnesota Lizards I spun out and rolled my '91 Ford Ranger onto the driver side on northbound US 10 near the US 169/MN 47 exit in Anoka.

That was you! You backed up traffic for miles! And I thought I was taking the quick way to get Up North.

93 Prester John  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:57:12pm

Meanwhile, in what used to be the Virginia countryside 25 miles outside of DC, while picking up a pizza I see a small store front being remodeled for a new grocery store. On front of the store there is a sign "Grocery and Halal Meat". This is about 5 miles or so from a brand new mosque that has just opened. I thought most of the foreign born residents around here were from Mexico and Central America.

I guess I was wrong.

94 Murqtaad  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:57:20pm

necromongers

95 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:57:36pm
96 LSD  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:57:38pm

The fear and darkness will surround you ...
The criminals are on the run ...
No use hiding in the dark ...
I'll hunt you down, I am The Dog ...
I am the Dog, the big, bad, Dog ...

97 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:57:54pm

#16 I agree, these body parts are most likely dead hezbos.

Here is my solution:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

98 cbinflux  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:57:54pm

OT
Google's rankings for "Failure"
[Link: www.google.com...]

99 Europhobe  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:58:32pm

I really can't take much more - my head is going to explode. Give me a gun and put me on the front lines the next time the Israelis go in. The sooner the better.

100 Cartman  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:59:10pm

Whatever the real truth is concerning these "body parts" is of secondary concern, IMHO. We've got a big problem over there (and here) that has to be dealt with. Now.

101 cbinflux  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:59:18pm

#93 pj
You may be right; they're doing a lot of recruiting in those communities.

102 sloggin420[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 3:59:54pm
103 cbinflux  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:00:16pm

Europhobe
Wonder if Debra Winger will go back..?

104 DistantThunder  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:01:31pm

So how do they hope we react to this footage- with horror and disgust? So why do we react this way..knowing that that is exactly their intention?

How about laughing and saying they are Allah's Poor Clown's playing with dirty toys? Let's get professional with this...

Eastern vs. Western war strategems


Ying Yang/ Polarity
Westerners believe they can pursue good and banish bad, but this assumption runs counter to the Taoist understanding which doesn't judge anything. There is no "good" or "bad" -- they are simply two sides of the same coin.

Wu Wei/ Go with the grain
Westerners equate yielding with weakness and overcoming adversity with strength. Taoists view the contrary: They value "going with the grain," which often leads us to the opposite answer to the same question.

Wu Chang/ Continuous change
Westerners believe the past determines the present and that change connects static moments. If Westerners assumed instead that the present determines the present, and that change is continuous, as the Taoist perspective suggests, Westerners would choose different courses of action.

Shang Bing Wu Bing/ Indirect action
Westerners prefer to meet an adversary head-on; the Eastern preference for indirect action often seems impractical, deceitful, or indicative of weakness. Embracing indirect action puts powerful new tactics into Western hands.

105 StarsandStripes  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:01:45pm

#90 new2thezoo

The only word that comes to mind is demon-possessed.

Well, Muhammad thought he was possessed by Satan. Satanic Verses.

106 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:03:04pm

# 92 Noam Sayin'

That was you! You backed up traffic for miles! And I thought I was taking the quick way to get Up North.


That's what I thought too. Sorry about holding you up there.

107 Luigi  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:04:22pm

Lieberman up by 12 points over whats-his-face

Poll: Lamont faces challenges with independents, Republicans
[Link: www.stamfordadvocate.com...]

The Quinnipiac University poll shows U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman, who is running as an independent after losing the primary, leading Lamont 53 to 41 percent among likely voters in a three-way race in November. Republican Alan Schlesinger gets 4 percent.

Though Lamont has gained ground, the poll found only 23 percent of registered voters have a favorable opinion of him. Twenty-eight percent have an unfavorable opinion and 25 percent are mixed. Meanwhile, 43 percent view U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman - now running as an independent - favorably.

108 Carridine  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:05:36pm

#88- TroonBop:
"Day of the Lifeless Ghouls: Chapter 37"

We drove through the only smashed part of town, and voice-overed that it was like this everywhere!

We blamed the Israelis, when it was Hizb'ullah who had trucked in crippled children to suffer death and dismemberment beneath Israeli bombs meant for us-

But wait! That crowd... they have a Bag of Body-Parts! (What an opportunity!)

We quickly stop, get cameras rolling, do a sound-test, check my makeup, and approach The Ghouls and Zombie-Walking-Dead, who toss the remains of their fallen Hizb'uComrades onto the ground, and once they're SURE the cameras are rolling, begin to emote AS IF they cared!

"The Jews ran from the overwhelming might of our Hizb'ullah brothers... this skull fragment COULD be Ahmed's but is actually some Jewboy we blasted!"

Great footage, we'll edit it and run it on tomorrow's edition of "Truth to Power!"

Karridine

109 1AmeriCAN  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:05:43pm

Hezboola body scraps - still though, what vermin.

They sure seem proud of how great of job the local thugs did "stopping" the IDF. Let's see, your neighborhood is rubble, but at least you have that war booty.

110 freya4freedom  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:06:46pm

Beasts! (insert many more exclamation marks here)

111 DistantThunder  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:06:59pm

Lamont Tots are totally messed over now.

112 useless  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:08:04pm

So, compare this imagery with the one with the Israeli children putting messages on bombs, and large parts of the [bigoted word] world got outraged.

This won't even make the 11:30 news.

113 Europhobe  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:08:38pm

cninflux -? Winger?

114 cbinflux  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:10:09pm

OT
UN votes / Foreign Aid to the M.E.
[Link: www.snopes.com...]

How they vote at the U.N.!

Below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations records:

Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time.
Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time.
Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time.
United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.
Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.
Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.
Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.
Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.
India votes against the United States 81% of the time.
Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.
Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time.

US Foreign Aid to those that hate us:

Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United States, still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid.

Jordan votes 71% against the United States and receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

Pakistan votes 75% against the United States receives $6,721,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

India votes 81% against the United States receives $143,699,000 annually

115 NoSubmission  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:10:55pm

Should I look?

116 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:11:24pm

#102 sloggin420
It's called a google bomb...
Googlebombing 'failure'

117 loudnoises  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:14:06pm

Israel 11% against. Pretty damned low.

118 useless  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:14:58pm

cb-

We should tie in our aid to countries that vote with the US. It's our dollars keeping their shitty little regimes in power in most places. If we are not buying votes, what good is the money*.

*From the Democrat playbook: How to win an election, or A welfare vote is a Democrat vote.

119 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:15:21pm

#18 jester6,

I think your analogy of the spring is excellent. I too have thought that for all the bravado from our enemy, there will come a day of reckoning when there will no longer be mercy shown. I believe Americans had reached that point in 1945.

I don't know how long the anger and resentment I am beginning to sense from the civilized world will be bottled, but I know that when the top is finally removed there is going to be a mess.

If there are Muslims out there who still care about life, liberty, and a future for your children, I would highly suggest that you begin to turn the tables on those who are perverting your religion, if that is the case. Because when the day of reckoning comes, I doubt many will differentiate who is naughty and who is nice. That is not a threat - it is a fact.

120 American Soldier[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:16:05pm
121 huckfunn  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:18:54pm

The only changes to muslim society in the past 2000 years are the addition of missles, video cameras and now some of the men wear shirts and pants. 50 years ago most of the arab world didn't even have light bulbs or toilet paper. The depradations depicted daily on TV have been going on for hundreds of years and the common thread for the depravity is the death cult of islam. Nothing has changed. They've simply discovered video and mainstream media. I'm pretty sure that I understand them and, Mr. Carter, I'm certain that talking to them won't make a difference.

122 Canadian Infidel  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:19:08pm
7 Kragar (proud to be kafir) 8/17/2006 05:08PM PDT
2 Words

Total War

YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT!

The United States considered using nuclear weapons after 9-11. No war has been won by trying to protect the innocent.

What would have happened if after 9-11, the United States nuked Afghanistan and the Palistinian border with tactical nukes, like those used in Hiroshima where people could move back in a few years? Then Iraq.

The leftists would be horrified. But could the enemy hate us more than they hate us now. And wouldn't it be better if the next person willing to attack America really wondered what would be the truly horrible response.

The west is sleeping. But keep in mind, we've interned Japanese and Germans and have nuked countries before. You don't want to wake us up.

Canadian Infidel

123 madmama  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:19:27pm

send this to Glenn Beck...he might air it.
It's long overdue to start our own propaganda war.

124 Charles  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:21:57pm

To 'useless' -- why are you going out of your way to post slurs? Surely you must realize that the software is blocking some words (some might take that as a hint that I don't want that kind of crap here)--so why find a spelling it doesn't block?

And yes, I added your alternate spelling to the list.

125 theheat  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:25:41pm

Nobody's surprised, but this won't get the air time of the Lebanese dead babies. You won't see the Hezbos mugging for the world camera when they're dumping Jewish bodies.

(These people celebrate death in the strangest ways.)

This is precisely why they can parade their dead around all they want - it doesn't change how little I care about them as fellow human beings.

I won't donate to their relief. I don't care if they're leveled by earthquakes. I don't give two sh*ts about their human shields. I don't care if they are wiped off the map for good, whether by act of nature or act of war.

These aren't people to care about. They are the equivalent of a walking plague.

126 cbinflux  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:27:14pm

#113 europhobe
She ran away as a teen and joined IDF, ran away from that when she set a foret fire during field manueuvers.

127 cbinflux  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:30:30pm

pimf
forest fire

128 useless  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:31:06pm

#124

No problem, I won't use then. Sorry.

129 useless  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:33:12pm

#124...

Oh, if I can ask, what slur?

130 Charles  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:35:02pm

#66

131 useless  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:36:45pm

OK. Got it Charles. Is there any thing else you would like me to not say and such? Your blog, your rules.

132 Maui Girl  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:37:33pm

I don't get it. Why would the US send millions of dollars to a country like Saudi Arabia? What, they don't have enough money of their own?

133 Charles  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:38:21pm

Look, I realize that these kinds of topics stir up emotions. But it simply doesn't help the cause of shedding light on the nature of the enemy to rant and suggest violence, or to use religio-racial made-up slurs or any other kind of slur. That stuff is used against you and used against me, no matter what my disclaimer says, and I'd appreciate it -- again -- if people would please remember this when posting.

134 mich-again  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:39:38pm

"Personification" is a term that refers to giving human qualities to animals or objects.

But I can't come up with an example of personification to describe the behavior of these sub-humans beasts.

Its beyond disgusting. We are not part of the same civilization.

135 mattm  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:40:36pm

What civilians. There are only cannibals.

136 useless  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:41:16pm

Will do. Sorry. I do get worked up about this stuff. But, you are right. I can handle people bitching at me, what I don't want to do is anything that would be used against you. I'll promise to keep my posts civil, take longer coffe and smoke breaks when angry, and punch something solid if not.

Thanks very much for the instructions Charles.

137 Canadian Infidel  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:44:20pm
56 SpartacusDk 8/17/2006 05:36PM PDT
whenever I see things like this, I revisit this:

[Link: switch3.castu...]


Thank you! Kick ass link.

And right back at you - an article about strength. [Link: www.ejectejecteject.com...]

Long fight ahead. Keep going.

Canadian Infidel

138 Canadian Infidel  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:47:34pm

63 whiterasta

I'm another Canadian. You get it. Like you, I'm trying to educate others. We're in the same boat.

I'll always keep your back!

Canadian Infidel

139 slotgun[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:54:12pm
140 Princess Bernie  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 4:57:07pm

Charles:


Clean up on aisle 139.

141 Charles  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 5:01:42pm

Big sigh.

142 Princess Bernie  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 5:04:04pm

Charles:

Why don't you invest in one of those super duper pressure washer blog cleaners? Might make the job go faster...

143 whiterasta  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 5:10:54pm

#139:

.."Nuke. Them. All..."

Knock off the genocidal ranting.

You are giving ammunition to our enemies.

Make your arguments clear and logical.

Genocide is never an option to be considered by Civilized People.

Be Civilized, don't be a barbarian.

144 PDM  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 5:11:33pm

#133 Charles,

Look, I realize that these kinds of topics stir up emotions. But it simply doesn't help the cause of shedding light on the nature of the enemy to rant and suggest violence, or to use religio-racial made-up slurs or any other kind of slur. That stuff is used against you and used against me, no matter what my disclaimer says, and I'd appreciate it -- again -- if people would please remember this when posting.

I apologize if my comment #76 contributed to that. My joke about this grim display didn't help any.
And it is already bad enough to see the enemy getting pleasure from desecrating bodies and playing with the parts of corpses.

145 whiterasta  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 5:14:06pm

Sorry, Charles. I no sooner posted his comment and you deleted it.

I did not mean to undermine you.

146 Charles  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 5:22:11pm

I'm now working on a 'report this comment' feature that will allow registered users to send a quick notification that a comment may have crossed the line.

And I'll say right up front that this is not a guarantee that the reported comment will be deleted. I've always been deeply uncomfortable with the idea of being a free speech hall monitor, because the mainstream media is already too much of a self-imposed nanny. But we'll try this for a while and see how it works.

147 funkyfantom  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 5:25:11pm

Let your congressmen know that you will vote for
anyone who supports cracking down on Muslim immigration, and vote against anyone else.

This is a no brainer. Let's say the total number allowed in were 100,000. ( I have no idea what the real numbers are.)

Let's say 100,000 Mexicans, 100,000 Chinese and 100,000 Muslims applied, to simplify the argument.

The Mexicans and Chinese accept the US Constitution and American way of life. The Muslims don't.

Oh and since a certain percentage of the Muslims will participate in terrorism we will have to spend hundreds of billions of dollars to construct a Big Brother police state just to prevent our country from becoming another Iraq or Lebanon.

So why not just ALLOCATE ALL THE SPACES to the Mexicans and Chinese? What compelling reason is there to let ANY Muslims in the country given that other groups are more economically beneficial and aren't interested in destroying the system?

148 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 5:36:53pm
149 Mark1957  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 5:42:40pm

This song was written during a different war, but it expresses my sentiments perfectly as to what we need to do with the "Islanimals" in that video:

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;

His truth is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have seen Him in the watch fires of a hundred circling camps
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps;
His day is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His day is marching on.

I have read a fiery Gospel writ in burnished rows of steel;
“As ye deal with My condemners, so with you My grace shall deal”;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel,

Since God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Since God is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet;
Our God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free;
[originally ...let us die to make men free]
While God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! While God is marching on.

He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,
He is wisdom to the mighty, He is honor to the brave;
So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of wrong His slave,
Our God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Many opine, correctly in my view, that the Battle Hymn of the Republic, along with Dixie, are the true national anthems of the United States. May it be so...

150 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 5:52:18pm

my fear is that we are all getting desensitized by all their demonic brutality. We all know it's savage, but it doesn't make us quite a nauseous as it once did. We are getting used to seeing it. That's a very bad thing.

151 azpatriot  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:00:48pm

When they go back they should treat their cities like Dresden and use phosphorus bombs, burning them to a cinder and as a byproduct detonating all of the hidden munitions, the phosphorus will burn right on down to wherever they are hidden.

152 beldar67  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:02:51pm

Animals...

153 theheat  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:09:30pm

#150

We all know it's savage, but it doesn't make us quite a nauseous as it once did. We are getting used to seeing it. That's a very bad thing.

Getting used to seeing it isn't a bad thing. You become less emotional about it. If they do it for effect, the effect is lost. I mean, they're the freaks playing with entrails.

Doing nothing about it, however, is a bad thing. It isn't like we need any more proof these people are deficient in every category humans use to measure other humans. I don't know about you, but how much more convincing does anyone need? Three more enuff videos? Six? Another six month's worth?

We'll keep seeing this kind of thing until they are stopped. And, yeah, I'm already used to it.

154 theheat  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:10:50pm

#153 PIMF - senuff videos

155 transferthem  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:18:48pm

Next time Israel should carpet bomb these savages. arab bacterial scum

156 useless  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:19:49pm

#150 Stuck

I'm kind of torn on that. If I ever get to a point where these things don't bother me, then I'm French. I don't like idea. I don't want to "decend" to their level, but the anger at seeing how these people is (I hope) the logical response a civilized human would have.

The only way they could make this worse is by dumping out good scotch! (I must kid or i esplode)

157 brakes  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:20:22pm
The mills of G-d grind slowly
but they grind exceedingly fine.
158 pat  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:22:20pm

Jimmy Carter says it's OK. A normal response, as opposed to a 'disproportionate response.

159 ronnie schreiber  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:30:18pm

While the Nazis certainly treated dead Jews as a commodity, recovering dental gold from corpses, and recycling human fat to use as fuel to burn those corpses (while the soap and lampshade stories are most likely urban legends based in part on the facts that the Nazis taunted Jews about turning them into soap, and Ilse Koch's "hobby" of collecting tatooed skin), I can't recall ever reading about Nazis publicly desecrating Jewish corpses.

But then, as we saw in the Mufti hearts Adolph video, Muslims have eagerly tried to show that they are first rank Jew haters.

A real Muslim Nazi flag.

Is this too subtle?

Will they accuse me of a hate crime for this one.

160 Live4Truth  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:53:09pm

I can only wish that the Lefties who romanticize Hezbollah and Hamas (and Castro, and Che, and Hugo) could spend a few years living there.

161 Robt S.  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:53:10pm

Charles, I'm unable to view the video but your comment (Orwellian narrative about resistance and victory) is troubling considering that Future Television is owned by the Hariri family. Saad, the de facto leader of the Cedar Revolution, pretty much controls the channel. So, if you are right in your assessment that this is a propaganda piece extolling the "resistance" then the March 14th movement has surrendered to Hezbollah.

Say it ain't so.

162 Charles  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:55:14pm

It's so.

163 Robt S.  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 6:59:12pm

Charles, I'm sending you a private reply to a website that you should check out.

164 PDM  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 7:02:02pm

#159 ronnie schreiber,

Feeling better, and still on the side of good?
Nice flags (especially the last one).

165 restitutor orbis  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 7:17:09pm

I sometimes worry about future generations having to grow up in a world of perpetual war.


Then I think they may be around to storm the gates of the final enemy stronghold, free to exercise unrestrained vengeful butchery(kind of like the Red Army troops who stormed into Berlin in '45)and I kind of feel a little sad I won't be able to take part.

Lets face it, the way it looks now, we'll either be too old or too dead.

166 Daisy  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 7:21:42pm

Necrophiliacs. Vulgarian necrophiliacs.

Justice is eternal.

167 Robt S.  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 7:21:56pm

Saad Hariri yesterday:

"The history of Israel is a black history, a hateful one, of destruction,"

"Israeli attacks can destroy Lebanon [physically] but will not touch Lebanese unity," Hariri said.

The son of slain former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, a top US ally, said Israel had a history of "living off the blood" of Palestinian, Lebanese and other Arab people. (JPost)

Chickenshit. Saad taking out an insurance policy with Hezbollah assassins

168 ronnie schreiber  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 7:23:58pm

PDM,

Yeah a little less despairing. Mostly because the Israeli body politik seems to recognize how badly Olmert screwed the pooch.

It looks like Gen. Adam isn't going to let them blame him because he's pushing back in the media. Plus there's been a bunch of Tzahal guys who have gone on record criticizing the political leadership.

Did you see the article in Yediot with paratroop commander Hagai Mordechai, who says that Olmert ordered them to stop their advance?

I want Sharansky to be PM and Liberman to be defense minister. Bibi should be finance minister and concentrate on moving to a true free market economy.

To take my mind off the 22nd, I've been working on some Hebrew knock off of sports logos.

Olde English Daled

Block Mem

The Boston one will be cool if it works out the way I plan. I have ideas for baseball fans in the Bronx and Queens, but I'll have to see how I execute them.

169 Robt S.  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 7:29:51pm

Saad's motives a little clearer. Seems Bashar Assad has backed him into a corner. In the same speech in which Saad blasted Israel"

"Mr Hariri said a speech on Tuesday by Mr Assad which suggested that anti-Syrian forces in Lebanon were aligning themselves with Israel, was damaging to both Lebanon and Syria." (BBC)

So Saad throws red meat to the Arab street by trashing Israel after Assad accused the Lebanese anti-Syrians of being pro Israel.

Politics as usual. Still, the Future Television segment of dismembered Israeli body parts goes way beyond politics.

Go screw yourself Saad. Oh, you can't. You have to grow a pair first.

170 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 7:31:15pm

165- restitutor

I sometimes worry about future generations having to grow up in a world of perpetual war.


Perhaps the fact they all grew up on bloody video games will serve them well in the future. Hopefully they will be sanguine about doing what is necessary...more so than we are who grew up in relative peace.

171 LynnBo  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 7:59:42pm

#16 Cattt

They think they are just cool as all hell, desecrating corpses.

I can't even look at it. The hyena comes to mind. Thoroughly disgusting.

172 PDM  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 8:23:11pm

#168 ronnie schreiber,

Yeah a little less despairing. Mostly because the Israeli body politik seems to recognize how badly Olmert screwed the pooch.

It looks like Gen. Adam isn't going to let them blame him because he's pushing back in the media. Plus there's been a bunch of Tzahal guys who have gone on record criticizing the political leadership.

Did you see the article in Yediot with paratroop commander Hagai Mordechai, who says that Olmert ordered them to stop their advance?

It's good that you're feeling better.

I don't know much about all the politics going on there. And I don't know much about military strategy either. Though I did see that Ynet piece.

I just formed my opinion on this by asking my rabbi what halacha would indicate was the right thing to do. (As I expected) he told me that Pikuach haNefesh (saving lives) was the main order of the day. That meant killing as much of Hizballah as possible to save Israeli lives. I guess I just try to keep it simple.
Israel didn't do that, and their leader, Olmert, blew it. Even without Torah law, he surely had experienced people around him to tell him the right direction to go.
Sooner or later Israel's hand is going to be forced to do the right thing. From where I sit, all I can do is pray that it's sooner rather than later.

To take my mind off the 22nd, I've been working on some Hebrew knock off of sports logos.

You never know what's going to be. The crazy Iranian might just lob the solution to Israel's "Palistinian" problem. Certainly I don't ever want to see a nuke hit Israel. But if one does, there are better and worse places for it to land.
Better to make sports logos (can't say I've ever seen a daled quite like that one) than to worry about the 22nd. We'll see what it brings next week, if anything.

173 shug  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 8:33:10pm

These bastards are death worshipping devils. they are not human beings.

after viewing this video, Israel should immediately NUKE lebanon

turn this filth to glass!

174 Zonie  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 8:47:49pm

I'd call them pigs but that would be an insult to pigs.

/angry as hell at the blind stupid collaborating media

175 ilan toren  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 9:22:25pm

Not much to add about this. I see no point in seeing the video and I have to doubt that at any time there was a chance for Israeli soldiers body parts to be seized away and then desecrated. In fact a good number of the Israelis killed in these battles were killed while attempting to extract collegues from a battle zone.

The cease-fire was the end of a badly planned ca campaign, but it is still holding and will probably result in things as they were before. Hopefully without much more in loss in human (Israeli) life. The decision to go in in greater force just prior to the cease-fire was one of the better decisions.

My son is going up to the front on Sunday, but will probably not be going into Lebanon. One of the side benefits of being in artillery. Still the north is not a safe place to be despite the momentary lull.

I hope that Israeli society starts to draw the required lessons. Everything predicted about the retreat from Lebanon and Gaza have been shown to be much closer to the truth than what was said against us (Israeli right). I wish we could force the sharonistas to eat the shit they served us, but...

Seeing Olmert and Peretz heading towards poltical oblivion is a good start.

176 Robt S.  Thu, Aug 17, 2006 9:50:28pm

Well, I started a very civil thread over at the Future Movement Forum asking anyone who cared to to explain how the the television station (Future TV) of the poster boy for the Cedar Revolution (Saad Hariri) could broadcast such video.

Alas, it's been taken down. Oh well.

[Link: www.futuremovement.org...]

177 potatoes omelette  Fri, Aug 18, 2006 1:11:09am

They show a destructive sect behaviour, though it's considered a religion. I haven't also seen any case of a destructive sect whose members can make this. This is far beyond anything seen. Perhaps aztecs mayas or any cannibal savage or prehistoric tribe?. No, I see no such evil in those either.

178 DP111  Fri, Aug 18, 2006 1:50:14am

On the Virtues of Killing Children
Posted By Grim

You are not going to like this.

On the demonstrable virtues of not caring if children die, on hardening your mind for war, and other things we can no longer avoid discussing.

Beware that you are ready before you pass this seal.

Let us begin with a debate between a peaceful, gentle soul, and me. The topic could be Israel's war, or ours in Iraq, or -- if they have the heart for it -- the one to come.

[Link: www.blackfive.net...]

179 DP111  Fri, Aug 18, 2006 2:03:06am

hyphen

The lesson here is that whenever anyone of us are caught short, call in at LGF. You will have your answer in a few minutes, chapter and verse, and if necessary all the relevant suras, and chapters in the Hadith, The Umdayyat etc.

180 miamiguy  Fri, Aug 18, 2006 2:59:26am

How do we get the MSM to show this story and the video and with the requisite disclaimers and blurred parts of the image?

181 chemicalcorpse  Fri, Aug 18, 2006 3:53:18am

These are the people who staged Cana; why should we expect these "remains" are Isreali?

Just another display of death obsession by third world savages who cannot assimilate with Western culture and must not be allowed to spread their population outside their borders.

182 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 18, 2006 3:58:35am

#181 chemicalcorpse

I agree with you. Great screen name btw...

183 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 18, 2006 4:58:08am

We should only do what they say we do.

184 dottcomm1  Fri, Aug 18, 2006 5:18:52am

the body parts are probably their own citizen's. wouldn't surprise me.

185 wargammer2005  Fri, Aug 18, 2006 5:27:37am

i see 1939-1945 Japan in that video
(except the Japanese had more discipline)

and we all know how that turned out.

186 SpiritOf1683  Fri, Aug 18, 2006 1:32:27pm
#36 Mr Frank

Europeans were that way, too -- about 1000 years ago.

Make that more like 100,000 years ago (unless you mean the parts conquered by Islam)

#38 savage_nation

The sooner Islam is destroyed, the better off humanity will be. Imagine the heights the human race could achieve without the millstone of Islam hanging over its neck. Fuck, we could be on our way to other galaxies with new technologies right now. All the ways humanity could advance without this trash around.

Amen to that. And we can forget about journeys to faraway galaxies if Islamism triumphs, courtesy of the PC brigade, the crackpot antisemites and the ragbag collection of 'useful idiots'. The wonderful things that should be seen in the 22nd, 23rd and 24th centuries and beyond will be denied to our descendants if this nightmare scenario comes to pass. I shudder at the thought of mine being subjected to brutal 7th century sharia law and being clad in burkas otherwise they'll get beaten to death by religious mutawa nutjobs in the 22nd century, when a century earlier I took going to a trendy bar, seeing miniskirted girls on lovely summer days, and having a good time for granted.


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