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Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 8:24:12 am PDT

Didn’t Jimmy Carter do enough damage the first time he tried diplomacy with Iran? Carter Agrees to Hold Talks With Khatami. (Hat tip: LawHawk.)

Giving Khatami a visa is a sheer outrage, at a time when Iran is issuing genocidal threats, sponsoring terrorism around the world, and rushing toward nuclear weapons. What the hell is wrong with our government?

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1 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:25:25am

Jimmah's mouth will be full, how will he be able to talk?

2 Stuck in california  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:25:27am

Amen Charles.

3 aRedPhishHead  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:26:35am

Too much bass ackwards lprogressivism, entrenched in a nearly endless bureaucracy, is the problem with our government.

4 theheat  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:26:39am
What the hell is wrong with our government?

Three words: Stay The Course.

5 ibrodsky  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:27:22am
What the hell is wrong with our government?


Don't get me started. I have too much work to do.

6 IowaInfidel  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:27:26am

Carter! Bwa-ha-ha-ha! What a douche!

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-h a-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha- ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha -ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! [inhale] Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-h a-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha- ha-ha-ha-ha!

7 Canadastani  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:27:39am

Maybe Iran could take Jimmuh hostage! Or maybe he will "negotiate" a deal as successful as the N Korean one.

8 aRedPhishHead  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:27:39am

theheat

One acronym - ACLU.

9 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:28:04am

If I were Carter, I'd avoid doing anything that got my name and Iran in the same sentence.

10 Hazmat  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:28:25am

Carter is a tool!

11 el brujo  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:28:41am

Oh my god, not the NK thing all over again!

12 Stuck in california  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:28:53am

Jimah, to bad your body didn't die whan you brain did.

13 Ojoe  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:29:01am

There is a National Geographic article of a few years back titled "Iran: Testing the waters of reform" (IIRC) and you might see in that article that Khatami is not automatically bad; maybe just watching his ass because the really insane people have the guns.

That said, I wish Carter wasn't involved.

14 ctrlL  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:29:23am

Jimmy Carter is a tool

/continued from previous thread
...Kofi is a tool
...Jesse Jackson is a tool

15 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:29:40am

Cant we send Carter over there? They can keep him.

16 Hucbald  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:29:40am

Well, at least they have similar basement-level IQ's and identical anti-US agendas. I'm sure they'll agree on everything, and Jimmah might even get a reach-around out of the deal.

17 Big Al  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:29:45am

Absolute madness

18 rw in san diego  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:29:46am

Quick, someone get the straightjacket. Jimmi the dhimmi's on the loose.

19 Reluctant Democrat  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:29:56am

What the hell is wrong with our government?

They are orchestrating a whole anti-Bush dog and pony show here. Do they have a death wish? Not to mention this Iranian radical Islamist, enemy of mankind and or religion, is speaking at our National Cathedral!

20 NoSubmission  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:30:18am

I hope they are organized a huge protest in DC!

21 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:30:22am

Will Jimmah get a reacharound?

22 Black George Bush  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:30:23am

Wont this guy go sit down somewhere.

23 ibrodsky  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:30:34am
24 Teacake!  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:30:48am

YEah, jimmah needs to take a long awaited dirt nap, or at least someone put him in a rest home. Why does he still have any say since he is an EX? Put that bastard in straight jacket where he will do no more harm.

25 ctrlL  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:30:58am

10 Hazmat

I was continuing in your previous post's style, but you beat me to it !

LOL

26 flexthink  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:31:38am

Well, Jimmy did such a great job negotiating with the Iranians when he was our 'President'. Doesn't anybody see the irony here? It was Achtunmemad who took our hostages when Carter was around the first time.

27 NoSubmission  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:31:56am

Organizing! Oops!

/All your organized are belong to us.

28 IowaInfidel  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:32:14am
#12 Stuck in california 8/30/2006 08:28AM PDT
Jimah, to bad your body didn't die whan you brain did.

ROFLMAO!

29 Bad Penny  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:32:21am

Isn't there a law against private citizens conducting diplomacy?

30 ibrodsky  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:32:32am

Jimmah "the dhimmah" Carter:

Worst President Ever
31 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:32:48am

When this sack of shit dies, and honestly, it can't happen soon enough, I will make a pilgrimage to his gravesite to do No. 1 and a nice two-step on his grave.

I'll Vlog it for everyone to enjoy.

32 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:32:58am

If there's ever been a time for Iran to be justified in invoking the idiot beheading rule, now would be it.

33 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:33:57am

OT

Here's a way for you to send a printed postcard to U.S. military personnel overseas. Choose the artwork (all by schoolkids) and add your brief message. It's free; Xerox has sponsored the program.

"Let's Say Thanks"

34 TMF  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:34:06am

Carter=Failure

35 locutus  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:34:20am

An American ex-President talking with an Iranian ex-President.

Hmm..

Hey Jimmy, while you're at it, throw on your toolbelt and build him a house.

36 mrsoc  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:35:37am

I think censure is a good idea for Jimmah-unless we can get him beheaded by his murderous friends.
The bastard never met a tin pot dictator he didn't like.

37 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:35:46am

Bad Penny

Isn't there a law against private citizens conducting diplomacy?

Haven't you heard of Jesse Jackson?

/boy, I wish you were right

38 realwest  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:35:54am

Don't think I can add anything to what Charles has already said. Stupid (and dangerous)is as Stupid (and dangerous) does.

39 Golem Akbar  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:36:18am

Jimmy Carter. I feel sooo much better, now. s/

40 prospero  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:36:34am

Hope Rosalynn reminds the dips**t to leave his wallet at home -- otherwise the Iranians will run up bills on all his credit cards and empty his bank account. Probably draw on his face with magic markers, too.

41 Broomer  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:37:43am

Cleanup in aisle #24

42 Hucbald  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:37:46am

Former presidents are supposed to be like well-mannered children: Seen, and not heard. Carter is like a brat who never got his way, so he throws tantrums all the time.

#21 Jammie Wearing...

Ha, ha: Beat you to the reacharound comment at #16. ;^)

43 Spiny Norman  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:37:46am

#35 locutus

Hey Jimmy, while you're at it, throw on your toolbelt and build him a house.

Better yet, throw Khatami a toolbelt and put him on the crew.

44 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:37:57am

I mean after all, who knows more about Iran than Jimmy. Without him, Iran would not have been a mullatocracy. Without him, Hugo would have been exposed as a fraud in the Venezuela "elections" and would not have been able to go to Iran and bash Israel. Without his negotiations, North Korea would not have the bomb these days. A veritable shining light in the heaven of the liberal establishment.

I keep some extra windex around so that I can clean puke off the tv screen whenever I see either him or Zbignew on it. What a crew.

45 IowaInfidel  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:38:39am

Jimmah poll!

Jimmah can best be described as:
A. A douche
B. A turd sandwich


/sorry South Park...

46 ibrodsky  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:39:05am

In honor of Khatami's visit, we should stone Jimmah with peanuts.

47 Golem Akbar  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:39:08am

#36 mrsoc

I think censure is a good idea for Jimmah-unless we can get him beheaded by his murderous friends.

They don't behead folks who pay jizya, which, in this case, are the numerous pro-Islamic/anti-American statements Mr. Carter makes in the press.

48 Broomer  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:39:13am

Amazing that we're still dealing with the repercussion of Jimmah's first term.

I just shudder to think what it would've been if Jimmah had TWO full terms!

49 jehu  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:39:25am
What the hell is wrong with our government?


For starters we do not have anyone with a warrior mindset. O, yeah, I know Bush went to war against the Jihadists. But it is still abstract, even to him. He does not articulate what or who we are fighing in any consistent and forcefull manner.

He does not attack the domestic supporters of our enemies. If Bush were a warrior, Norm Minetta would have been fired the day he said he would not profile at our airports. Condi would have been taken to the woodshed about 10 times now.

If our security against terrorist was really a rational policy then our borders would have been secured 4 years ago. We also would have launched a Manhattan type project to be energy independent in 10 years.

It leaves me with the feeling that our government is willing to walk into a bar and get into a fight, but unwilling to go after the beer company. Just a stupid way to fight. We are simply not mean enough to win this war. It is still a game, and self-focused politics.

And that is with a good guy in charge, I shudder to think of the alternatives.

50 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:39:49am

Who died and make Jimmy Carter the king? Someone needs to have the balls and tell him to stand down.

51 Spiny Norman  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:40:43am

#45 IowaInfidel

Jimmah can best be described as:

C. History's Greatest Monster.

D'oh!

52 ibrodsky  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:40:59am

Jimmah's new cause: Habitat for Islamic Fascists

53 sandspur  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:41:19am

5 IowaInfidel
I pick both!

54 dead sea squirrel  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:42:05am

At last he will be able to apologize in person for the 1979 hostage crisis.

Now guess: who to whom?

55 Spiny Norman  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:42:13am

D. The Ultimate Useful Idiot

56 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:43:30am

(post 50; make = made.)

D'oh!

57 IowaInfidel  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:43:34am

E. Stupidest moron?

58 DoctorDentons  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:43:36am

It's a total mystery to me why the White House, State Department, etal don't order this doddering old fool to stay out of International Politics under pain of Arrest under the Logan Act.
He makes a complete ass of himself and this country.

59 ibrodsky  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:44:45am

Maybe Jimmah and Khatami can discuss environmentally friendly ways of driving the Jews into the sea.

60 grayp  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:45:15am

Well, Dhimmi Carter aside - if this guy comes to the US and spouts his bile, at least the MSM - whatever that's worth - and the bloggers get to cover him.

Easier than going to Iran.

61 jaynumber13  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:46:24am

STOP TALKING TO ISLAMOFACISTS ON OUR BEHALF YOU OLD COOT!

62 locutus  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:48:14am

Anyone here old enough to remember Jimmy visiting the Three Mile Island nuke plant in '79, wearing those plastic yellow boots?

A photo that ranks up there with Dukakis driving the tank and Kerry in his bunny-suit.

63 Miss Trixie  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:48:42am

Carter Agrees to Hold Talks Hands With Khatami.

Fixed that.

64 ibrodsky  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:49:01am

60 grayp

Well, Dhimmi Carter aside - if this guy comes to the US and spouts his bile, at least the MSM - whatever that's worth - and the bloggers get to cover him.

I think Iran's strategy has taken a sudden u-turn. As they get close to nukes, they now say (lie) they are pursuing only peaceful applications and have no military designs against Israel.

Most likely, Khatami is coming to whitewash Islamic fascism, Iran, and terrorism.

65 Abu Maven  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:49:02am

I don't see this as altogether bad news. Bush can use Dhimmi Carter to play "good cop" to Bush's "bad cop."

And Khatami is not part of the current gov't, and while mildly genocidal in his own right (at least towards Israel), he is no Ahmadinnerjacket.

66 canadianconservative  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:49:42am

#49 Jehu:

Message to Dubyah... WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER!

67 BIG  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:52:16am

Maybe Khatami could don a PLO vest and make a martyr out of Jimay? Two for the price of one!

68 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:53:20am
Giving Khatami a visa is a sheer outrage, at a time when Iran is issuing genocidal threats, sponsoring terrorism around the world, and rushing toward nuclear weapons. What the hell is wrong with our government?


Refusing to name the enemy and then allowing the enemy into the United States...And enemy that slaughtered 241 UNITED STATES MARINES IS NUTS...I THINK WE ARE IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE.

69 locutus  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:53:57am

#48

Amazing that we're still dealing with the repercussion of Jimmah's first term.

I just shudder to think what it would've been if Jimmah had TWO full terms!

The thing is, if Jimmy hadn't screwed up the hostage crisis so badly, he would have had a second term. Which would have...

1) Made Reagan's two terms 1985-1993
2) Bush 41's 1993-1997
3) Clinton's 1997-2005

I guess we're lucky that Jimmy only had one term.

70 Rancher  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:59:17am
Giving Khatami a visa is a sheer outrage

Seems to be the consensus at NRO. Visa Not Denied

71 rcris5  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:59:57am

Dimmy C. has always sought the path of least resistance...to the "final solution" regarding the Joos.

72 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:00:38am

#69 locutus:

And the hostage crisis meant that the poor economy and domestic malaise were overlooked through the entire time. The military was in poor shape, high unemployment, high interest rates, and a gloomy outlook were all highlights of the Carter Administration.

73 Rancher  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:01:42am

Kinda OT

I think Iran will get its nuke. "Duck and Cover" or "How I Learned to Love the Bomb Shelter" Someone please convince me I'm wrong.

74 serfer62  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:03:10am

carter-the-carpenter is a Rove trick. Who better to emphasis the differance between Kommiecrats and Americans in wartimes?...

75 Ackomanyuki  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:03:17am

Drain the swamp in Foggy Bottom. The stench is too much for this Nation to bear much longer.

76 tronman  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:04:18am

It's a shame Carter isn't travelling over there and his passport could be accidentally revoked...

77 wvobiwan  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:05:15am

Ahh yes, the enemies of America: KAIR, Karter, and Khatami, all in one place...

{slaps own face} Quit fantisizing and get back to work!

78 grayp  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:06:18am

locutus

Anyone here old enough to remember Jimmy visiting the Three Mile Island nuke plant in '79, wearing those plastic yellow boots?

Actually, I was living in Harrisburg at the time (and now have a dead thyroid gland and must take a pill every day for the rest of my life - don't believe anybody when they tell you there was no radiation - there was and many of us ran for our lives)

Anyhoo - this is a godd place to draw attention to a letter Ari Fleischer has written to Dhimmi Carter via DMK

Just as you underestimated the threat of the Soviet Union in
the 1970s, you underestimate the threat of radical Islam
today. Your condemnation of Israel, the victim, only
encourages Hezbollah, the attacker, to bide its time and
attack again.
[]
I was raised a Democrat but I changed parties in 1982
because I believed your policies and the nuclear freeze
movement invited increased Soviet militarism and
adventurism. President Reagan's military build-up and
credible threat of the use of force helped bring about the
demise of Communism and brought freedom and a better life to
hundreds of millions in Central and Eastern Europe. It also
secured a lasting peace

79 Cato the Elder  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:12:16am

I'll tell you what's wrong with our government: Bush is the only one with any balls at all.

The rest are all Foggy Bottom wussies and whores of the caliphate.

80 Claire  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:13:32am

#73 Rancher:

I think Iran will get its nuke...Someone please convince me I'm wrong.

I don't know why you would be wrong on that- we keep hearing how Iran may have a bomb in 3 or 5 or 10 years. They've already been working on this for a number of years...why would anybody think it would take them 3X longer than it took the Manhattan Project (3.5 years from scratch?) to develop a bomb?

81 Nahanni  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:14:10am

I can understand the outrage and on face value I would be pretty outraged here too.

But I think there is much more going on here then meets the eye.

What everyone always seems to forget, but need to remember, is that George Bush is an excellent Poker player.

82 extrabob  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:18:07am

#31 jammie
"I'll Vlog it for everyone to enjoy."

Guaranteed # 1 with a bullet on You Tube.
I loathe Carter more than any other American in history. To my everlasting shame, I voted for the Commie bastard before he exposed himself as an anti-American Marxist tool. Hope I don't roast in Hell for that blunder.

83 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:19:22am
Bush and Rice Grant Visa To Khatamei
Posted by Allen Roth on August 29, 2006 at 11:54 AM Print
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Reliable source reports that Bush and Rice have granted former Iranian President Khatami a visa to visit the United States. Khatami is on public relations offensive for the radical Iranian regime. He is also scheduled to headline a fundraiser for CAIR (Council On American islamic Relations) while he is in the States.

I am told Bush got "nothing in return."

This comes as Rumsfeld is bemoaning the fact that the terrorists are beating us on the propaganda front Bingo...Carter will make this Animal the flavor of the hour for all the wingnuts. [Link: www.onejerusalem.org...]

84 locutus  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:21:15am

#80

...why would anybody think it would take them 3X longer than it took the Manhattan Project (3.5 years from scratch?) to develop a bomb?

True. We had to develop the A-bomb from scratch, without any previous research or materials to work from. The Iranians, Norks, Indians, and Pakis have all basically copied pre-existing designs.

85 locutus  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:24:13am

#82

I loathe Carter more than any other American in history. To my everlasting shame, I voted for the Commie bastard before he exposed himself as an anti-American Marxist tool. Hope I don't roast in Hell for that blunder.

I did something much, much worse.

In 1984, I voted for Walter Mondull, Jimmy's VP.

There isn't enough soap or beer in the entire world to recover from something like that.

86 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:28:29am

If Jimmy Carter wanted my respect, he'd be down in New Orleans building block after block of 1,200 to 2,000 square foot affordable homes (on stilts, this time, please) for the displaced. Instead, he wants to play at "elder statesman," which would be all right if he had gotten anything right the first time.

87 Nahanni  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:32:06am

#73 Rancher

They already have it, hun.

And a bomb shelter won't do you much good. You won't have enough time to use it.

Just remember these fun facts.

They already have a crude cruise missile thanks to Bill Clinton. Remember the intact one that fell in Pakistan when he lobbed the "Monica Missiles"?

They have not really been training and practicing ICBM launches. No, no, no...it is much worse and it gives you a clue to what their strategy is.

Want to know what kinds of launches they been training for?

1. High altitude detonations.

2. Firing missiles out of shipping containers off of ships.

What does that tell me?

That they want to paralyse the west by rendering most electronics useless. My guess is they will use that on Europe.

The contiainer fired missiles will take out a couple of our cities. A sea lauch with a crude cruise missile would not need a very elaborate guidence system. They could do it with a laptop and a GPS device. Program it to go so many miles at a certain altitude and detonate. There are plenty of fat targets for them that would require no fancy flightpaths-New York, Boston, Washington DC, Miami, Houston, San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Seattle.

They can fire them off in international (or foreign) waters and hit those targets and we would not know a thing until they went off. The ships would not be subject to inspection or anything else until they were in our waters and Canada doesn't give a crap.

These jihadis believe that they will get the shahid treatment for any attack on us so they will never be caught. Why? Because they will sink the ships they used and go down with them.

88 Roger  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:38:49am

#49 jehu 8/30/2006 08:39AM PDT

self-focused politics.

Rotating title anyone?

89 Roger  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:43:08am

Carter has no official blessing on his talk with Khatami?

Then why doesn't the current Administration put the kibosh on it?

90 Rancher  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:45:30am

#87 Nahanni

I won’t be hit, the shelter would be more for fallout and self defense should society fall apart.

91 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:48:41am

I'm not so sure about the nay sayers that think sanctions would have no effect on Iran. All we would have to blockade is their gasoline imports. Just one item. It takes up a lot of room, is highly visible, clearly marked. Any ship that attempted to run that blockade would end up looking down from about eight miles in the air.
I don't know of any American President that could survive having to inform the American people that gas rationing is now in effect, pick up your coupon for forty gallons. A YEAR. As it is now, Iranians are unable to use more than one gallon a day. Theirs is a society that is very close to the edge.
Would we blockade their exports? No need. Instead of spending all of their excess capital on weapons and nuclear technology they would need to build refineries, which take a long time to build. They also happen to be a juicy target.

92 Rancher  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:56:33am

#91 EC Marm

Now that's something I haven't heard proposed. Does any fuel come in overland? Could Russia supply them through the Caspian Sea?

93 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:57:01am

Actually the Regime Change Iran website has an old article about the unrest that gasoline rationing has caused Iran in the past.
Link:
[Link: regimechangeiran.blogspot.com...]

94 formercorpsman  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:58:33am

Although I am no Carter fan, I am ok with him being involved with habitat, etc.

This son of bitch no longer represents this country in an official capacity.

We took that away from him.

Our elected leaders are dealing with the belligerence of Iran+IAEA+UNESCO, in the "diplomatic" fashion his ilk so quickly accuse the current of not doing.

This is why I am so apart from the ideals of this party. They are first to cry about our constitutional violations, but do not respect the will of the people when the people freely decide not to be lead by them any longer.

What an asshole.

95 sngnsgt  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:01:02am

Jimmah didn't learn anything te last time he tried to negotiate with Iran?

Just for the record, the world knows about Carter's dealings with Iran, it didn't turn out well for him last time, what makes him think things are going to be better for him this time?

Khatami will know he has a leg-up going into the situation, Jimmah will make himself look like the fool that he is.

I hope The Bush Administration has informed Khatami that Carter is acting on his own and does not represent The U.S. Government in any way, shape, or form.

96 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:02:31am

#92 Rancher
I've been reading at Regime Change Iran, Jihadwatch.org, IRVAJ, etc. for the past couple of years. I seem to recall that most is tankered in. Sure, they will drive it over the border from Russia and a few other places, but the price will go through the roof.

I'd love to see the US Navy bloody the Iranian navy again. I think the Iranians have already "war gamed" this scenario. Which is why they've been putting on their little "dog and pony" naval shows, lately. They know it is their achilles heel.

97 Kevin Shook  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:09:11am

I agree with Charles, what the hell is wrong with our government? By its actions this last summer (incentives to Iran to cease its nuclear program, support of cease-fire in Lebanon, and visa for Khatami), this adminstration is obviously not serious in winning this War. These actions have done nothing but strengthen our enemies and in doing so, greatly increased the danger our service men and women face daily in Iraq and Afghanistan. Either we should demand the immediate withdrawal of our soldiers or we should impeach the President for dereliction of duty as Commander in Cheif.

(Let me assure the readers, that I am not some moonbat lefty. I am a gay man who has fully supported Pres. Bush since 9/11. I also actively supported the President during the 2004 Election and withstood a lot of heat from it from my friends and family, as you can imagine. If this President isn't willing to fight this War and stand up to our enemies, then he should not be allowed to place our soldiers in harm's way.)

98 gymnast  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:10:58am

Has the State Department authorized Carter offer surrender terms to Iran. I cannot imagine what they would accept, but since they are aware of Carter surrendering the Panama Canal perhaps he is willing to part with the Houston Ship Channel and refineries if they promise to let us keep Epcot Center. Is a meeting resulting in a surrender treaty between a representative of an Islamofacist regime and a senile asshole from Georgia legally binding?

99 Nahanni  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:11:01am

#90 Rancher

You are still thinking in terms of the Cold War.

We aren't talking 300-500 megatons per city here.

And remember this. We lost a whole city last year to a hurricane and flood with more destruction then the Iranians can muster. A city that was already on the edge of anarchy and had been for decades due to a corrupt and inept city and state governments coupled with a corrupt police force. We also lost large swatches of two states to that same destruction. The "anarchy" lasted about one week in a place that was already 9/10ths of the way there, and in Mississippi and Alabama there was no anarchy. I do not think society or the government will collapse.

Sure, we will be wounded but 9/11 taught companies and the government a couple lessons. You are aware that all banks, corporations and the government now keep accurate hardcopies of all their records in more then one location? You are also aware that the NYSE and NASDAQ can be up and running in one day after any attack on NYC because they have 2 or 3 trading floors set up with all the equipment and people they need. They have already planned for this scenario. You are aware that the broadcast networks can operate out of just about anywhere now, aren't you? All they need is a sat truck to uplink and a couple of video servers. Remember the Northridge quake? Fox network broadcast out of a sat truck parked in KTTV's paring lot because the building was deemed unsafe. They did that for a week.

We will be down for awhile, but not out.

However Iran will be a glass ashtray, and we will hold the nuclear shotgun at the heads of the rest of them. And our trigger finger will be very, very itchy. I also would not like to be an Islamist in this country nor a well known LLL. There will be reprisals and there will be no one willing to stop them.

100 gymnast  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:14:14am

Jimmy Carter, Nancy Pelosi's choice for Secretary of State if a Democrat Presidency were to come to pass.

101 Yossarian  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:16:38am

[Link: www.shinesforall.com...]

Not far behind President Carter in welcoming an enemy of America and Israel to this country is ... yes, Harvard's Kennedy School of Government (of Stephen Walt and the "Israel Lobby" fame).

The event is titled "Ethics of Tolerance in the Age of Violence." An interesting title for a one-time leader of a theocracy best known for promoting radical Islam (hint: not very tolerant) and terrorism across the globe.

102 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:19:21am

#100 gymnast

Jimmy Carter, Nancy Pelosi's choice for Secretary of State if a Democrat Presidency were to come to pass.


I think that you should be banned for that comment. That is the most offensive post I have ever seen here!

/sarc

103 LaMano  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:21:17am

Khatami's next stop should be Gitmo.

104 Dustoff-507  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:21:42am

Nutball Carter wants another NOBEL.

You've got to wonder how low this fool can go.
Notice I didn't call him a man. (he doesn't rate that)

105 Rancher  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:25:53am

Nahanni

I'm about 100 miles from Albuquerque. Albuquerque probably won't be a target but a nuke coming across our southern border would most likely travel through there. A traffic stop or some other problem might find the Jihadist willing to detonate there. Even a dirty bomb would subject me to fallout, even if just short term. Hell we had to disconnect our cistern for a few weeks after Chernobyl. Your right about NO, until then I didn’t think we could loose a major US city without triggering at least a major depression. But NYC and DC? That would have a catastrophic affect on the world's economy.

106 alegrias  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:27:16am

Carter is the Dem's shadow president--past present & future ideal Democrat living in the alternative universe where Democrats Blame America First, terrorists are their friends, and your true friends you leave to twist in the wind and say they're suffering malaise.

WE weren't suffering Malaise, we suffered four years of Dhjimmocrat open door policy to jihadism, doom & gloom.

And this crew has the nerve to try and remove Rumsfeld the jihadi-fighting Republican on whom civilization depends!

107 gymnast  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:27:24am

#102, EC Marm. I saw Pelosi on the "news" this morning and was inspired. I would not be upset if she and Carter were forced to swallow rats which then freed themselves by eating their way out. Terminal stupidity and a policy of national suicide should be a capitol offense punished using the same methods our nations enemies would inflict on us.

108 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:31:34am

More research on Iranian gasoline imports:
"To meet demand, Iran must now import 22 million liters a day".
The main reason for this situation is the poor condition of vehicles. Three of the four million cars on the roads are more than 10 years old or have been driven more than 200,000 kilometers...
Link:
[Link: www.iran-daily.com...]

109 The Monster  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:32:24am

Alright, Charles, admit it. You're making this one up! Given Carter's track record negotiating with Iranians, nobody could take this seriously!

. . .

Huh? He really means this? Did I wake up in Bizzaro World today?

110 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:33:42am

May kathami kdnap him.

111 kitkat  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:38:38am

This column seems to sum it all up very nicely.
[Link: www.omegaletter.com...]

112 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:43:05am

More research on Iranian gasoline imports:

That helps explain why, despite record high oil prices, Iran routinely runs a net deficit.


They use 1960 era technology, no automatic pump shutoff's and:

At Station No. 11, so much gasoline escapes onto the ground and into the warming summer air as fumes that new employees go home wretchedly ill. "The first few days, you get headaches and vomiting and that sort of thing," said Kariman, 19. "Then you get used to it."


[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

113 Nahanni  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 8:57:36am

#105 Rancher

Albuquerque probably won't be a target but a nuke coming across our southern border would most likely travel through there.

Reread the post. Container ships, hun. They don't need to be flying them over little ol' Albuquerque when they can just fly em over 200 miles of water and 5-50 miles of relativily flat land.

A traffic stop or some other problem might find the Jihadist willing to detonate there.

They are practising launches off container ships, hun. Why bring the container on land and possibly be caught when they can just sit on a ship and be undetected?

Hell we had to disconnect our cistern for a few weeks after Chernobyl.

And you might have to again. Apparently you survived that situation before. I would suggest stocking up on KI tablets, though.

But NYC and DC? That would have a catastrophic affect on the world's economy.

Not as much as you think. You are still thinking cold war, hun. How much effect did 9/11 have and we were essentially unprepared for that. I am not saying it won't hurt us, but it will not lead to the apocalyptic scenario you seem to be envisioning.

114 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 9:04:57am

More research on Iranian gasoline imports:

Over the past two years, the republic has been one of the world's largest consumers of imported fuel, buying between 15 and 20 cargoes of gasoline per month, amounting to 189,000 barrels per day.

Jeez, all the U.S. Navy would have to do is flag down between 15 to 20 cargo ships a month and suggest, "You really don't want to go there. By the way, got a match?"

Put yourself in the shoes of the skipper, sitting on a couple hundred thousand gallons of highly flammable liquid. (It appears from this link that Vietnam may be the supplier of Irans gasoline)

Link:
[Link: www.thanhniennews.com...]

115 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 9:24:37am

More research on Iranian gasoline imports:
(Actually, this Republican floated this idea long ago)
With Illinois Republican Mark Kirk, Mr. Andrews has introduced legislation calling for the quarantine of gasoline imports should Iran continue to flout Security Council resolutions. "If gas prices were to soar in Iran," he says, "the regime would be destabilized, the possibility of internal change would increase and the regime would find a way to back away from the precipice."

One objection: A gas quarantine may require the naval blockade of Iranian ports, which is legally tantamount to an act of war. Not a problem, says Mr. Andrews: "I think the development of a nuclear weapon in violation of an international treaty is an act of war, too."
Link:
[Link: www.opinionjournal.com...]
(Last post, I've got to get some work done)

116 Gmac  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 9:35:59am

I smell a Rovian plot afoot...
Carter couldn't be so stupid as to have himself and a former leader of Iran meet without a subliminal directive...

/just sayin'

117 ShyGuy  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 9:45:11am

Sometimes when I look at all my children, I say to myself, "Lillian, you should have stayed a virgin."
- Lillian Carter, mother of the former President

118 Dustoff-507  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 9:52:17am

Where is Gordo?

You just know he should be telling Charles just how MEAN he is for picking on Jimmy.

119 varmint  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 9:53:06am

Remember the scene in Braveheart? King Longshanks is talking to himself, over who to send to negotiate with the scottish rebels. He cannot send the prince because the sight of his "gentle son" would only encourage an attacker.

Jimmy Carter is the "gentle son".

right thread this time

120 _remembertonyc  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 10:25:40am

jimmy carter (I refuse to even capitalize his name) is "The Midwife of Islamofascism."

He is loathsome, evil, and stupid.

121 6patrick6  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 10:57:43am

#40 prospero ---

Rosalyn Carter died several years ago.

122 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 11:05:15am

NRO's Andy McCarthy reports on State's issuing Khatami a visa:

(emphasis his)
"We recognize that former President Khatami headed a regime that is a leading sponsor of terrorism, human rights abuses, and, presided over Iran’s secret nuclear program which is now the will demonstrate to Iran that the United States upholds its commitment to freedom and democracy. After careful deliberation, however, we determined that issuing Mr. Khatami a limited visa, and allowing Mr. Khatami to present his views directly to the American people, will demonstrate to Iran that the United States upholds its commitment to freedom and democracy."

(AM): Oh, well thank goodness for that. Many of us, after all, have just been twisting ourselves in knots over whether Iran thinks we are free and democratic enough. It's good to see that, when it's not burning up Bob Novak's phone line, the State Department is still beamed like a laser on the things that really matter to Americans.

Does the State Department really think that ordinary Iranians who actually care about freedom and democracy want us to give a visa to the former mullah-picked figure-head of the totalitarian regime that terrorizes them? Just who is it we are trying to impress here?

With State estatic over their wisdom and probably peeing all over themselves with excitement of Carter's meeting, I'd bet they'd be more than willing to assist those wanting to hold an anti-Iranian demonstration in getting a permit to further the cause of free speech.

Think of posters with the Comic Prophet, banner's and chant's of 'Death to Iran!' 'Bomb Mecca...Tehran!' 'Mosque's Banned! Down with the Muslim Ammo Dumps!' 'Ban the Qur'an!'

I might not be able to attend but I'd sure as hell toss in 500 to further the cause of free speech.

123 6patrick6  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 11:07:51am
Jimmy Carter, Nancy Pelosi's choice for Secretary of State if a Democrat Presidency were to come to pass.

God, now THAT'S a scary scenario, plus Pelosi as Speaker of the House..."Twilight Zone" music going in my head now...

Carter needs to stick to swinging a hammer. Just listening to that guy speak makes me sick.

Khatami needs to go back to the hole from which he crawled...back to where the 12th M&M is hiding out!

Oh, and CAIR, here's my daily FOAD wish to you. Have a really $hitty day.

124 FinallyHere  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 11:32:15am

I thought that Condi could not come up with anything worse than the last UN resolution, but I underestimated her.

At least she still promises not to run for POTUS.
Condi is the only "Republican" that would make me vote fo Hillary.

125 Clutch  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 11:56:43am

#121 6patrick6

Nope, ol' Rosalyn is still alive 'n kickin... My mama is four years older 'n her and still feisty (and I'm a OLD dude...)

Some Carter-era jokes...

Q. Why does Rosalyn always get on top whe she and jimmuh have sex?
A. 'Cuz jimmuh can only f*ck up!

Q. What do jimmuh and the Key Bridge have in common?
A. They both go in and out of Rosalyn! (OK, it was a local joke, since there is a Rosslyn, VA)

Man, I wish I could find the carter-era Penthouse cartoons that depicted jimmuh in a less-than-flattering light (like jimmuh as a erect, Planters 'Mr.Peanut'-ish penis with his big ol' grin saying somthing like "I only want to get the tip in".)

126 the_flying_pig  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 11:57:21am

Varmint #119: Remember the scene in Braveheart? King Longshanks is talking to himself, over who to send to negotiate with the scottish rebels. He cannot send the prince because the sight of his "gentle son" would only encourage an attacker.

Jimmy Carter is the "gentle son".

Bwahahahaha! Good one.

127 Stuck-in-CA  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 12:09:56pm

Carter and Khatani. Wow...2 huge pieces of shit in one room. Someone get the Extra Strength Lysol.

128 Happy Viking  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 12:24:13pm

What!? Jimmy obviously didn't get his fill of being the doormat of the islamic world back in the 70"s.


Thank you sir may I have another!

129 Gordon  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 1:21:27pm
What the hell is wrong with our government?

In the context of this story, this is one of the stupidest rhetorical questions you have ever posed, Charles.

130 ciaospirit  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 1:51:41pm

Carter and Khatami. The summit of failed presidents.

131 the_flying_pig  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 3:45:54pm

Khatami would be the wrong person to talk about tolerance, respect for human rights and dialogue of civilizations, read below:

Before Ahmadinejad, when the Supreme Leader and his Guardian Council wanted to appear more moderate, they picked Mohammad Khatami and allowed him to become the President. But they never gave him any actual authority and kept him on a short leash regarding his actions.

Khatami projected the image of a reformer and a moderate who believed in dialogue. He performed his role admirably by speaking in platitudes and generalities such as the "Dialogue among the Civilizations". The reality of the Islamic republic during the 8 years of his presidency was very different.

Domestically, dozens of newspapers were shut down and journalists were jailed. Dissidents were imprisoned, assassinated and executed. People were executed for offenses that should not even be considered crimes such as adultery, homosexuality, and converting from Islam to other religions. Then there are the catchall offenses such as "Fighting the will of God" or "Spreading corruption on earth" for which one may also be executed. During Khatami's presidency, Iran had one of the worst human rights records according to UN Human Rights Council, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International.

During Khatami's presidency, the Islamic Republic was also an international menace. Year after year the Iran was singled out as a leading state-sponsor of terrorism. Khatami publicly supported terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad as well as helped fund, arm and train them throughout his presidency. Building of illegal clandestine sites for uranium enrichment continued during Khatami's Presidency.

Khatami was more soft-spoken than Ahmadinejad, but their actual policies and practices are very similar. Khatami was the public face that unelected oligarchy of the Islamic Republic chose for domestic and international purposes. Now Ahmadinejad is that face.

From Khatami: Iran's Ribbentrop

Read it all.

132 shmujew  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 3:57:04pm

I am surprised that JOSEPH GOEBELLS was not invited to thie type of conference in the 1930's...is there a difference here? We can still kill him you know

133 NamesAGame  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 4:05:09pm

Yet again, Carter is proving his only loyalty is to his own ego.

134 mattm  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 5:52:27pm

Why not. Carter is the best president this country ever had. He put us in out rightfu place in this world.

/moonbat off

135 equifax  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:17:14pm

I was so happy that Carter won the election. I voted for the bastard. I bought his act hook line and sinker. I was a Blue Dog Democrat.
Then I had the misfortune to live under his tenure as president for four years.
You might like to visit Orfinanny to see what I think of him now.

136 energyforcapital  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 6:41:47pm

A cruel (but fitting) irony would be for jimmuh to end up in some public square, in Tehran, full of the very people that he fucked by allowing the madness of the last twenty-eight years to happen.

137 Windhorse  Wed, Aug 30, 2006 7:11:16pm

jimmy carter, you are a complete disgrace to this country...(by the way - don't most people drop the dimunitive at around age 16 normally?)


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