WHAT

Losers.

Wear your fatigues and hats, we need to look super angry!

Teen angst beards would be cool, too.

They need to go pound sand. Long and hard.

Traitors.

the land of the free - and the home of the ...whackos.

Arrest them, and cut them loose in a rubber dinghy just oiff Bandar Abbas. They can then sail into their new home.

Fucking scum.

You sons-a-bitches, it was planes with islamics at the controls that brought down the towers.

I'm an architect. I know what I am talking about.

You are fools, and your foolishness borders on treason.

I think the FDNY needs to pay these people a visit...

New nickname for the 9/11 conspiracy crowd: "blackshirts."

...And 2,996 people rolled over in their graves simultaneously.

I guess these douchebags felt late to the Holocaust-denial party, so had to pick something else.

Oh, how the sight of these lowlifes makes me forget the, mmm, better angels of my nature. Boots, meet teeth.

Ya, whatever. Have another hit of that bong.

idiots.

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

end quote

I'd rather investigate you. Maybe I can test my new theory, that some people are born with squirrel's brains. In the meantime, might I suggest it wouldn't be prudent, to put all your acorns in one tree.

that's the goofiest looking bunch of people I've seen in quite a while.

I think they need to get laid.

Malevolent lies and ignorance made flesh.

I was listening to 1010 Wins News in NYC and they reported on this this morning...they had an interview with a firefighter who lost his brother in the attacks and these nitwits got in his face.

Makes no sence to me...didnt we see multiple videos from OBL claiming responisibiity? I don't understand their conspiracy. Someone please explain!

Also, one of htese nuts was on Hannity and Colmes a few weeks back and I e-mailed his group. I asked him about the videos, etc. and low and behold, I never got a response back. Go figure!

[Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com...]

Losers! Glad I'm not there now.

sigh...
Giving this 15 seconds thought you know it can't work. You have to evacuate a critical floor, weaken the support members and pack 1000s of lbs of explosives around them. It takes at least a week to prepare. Now the WTC was pretty secure by pre 911 standards so how could this be done? Oh, I forgot Bush=Hitler! taht explains it.
---gag---

These idiots are just that. MSNBC showed a special two nights ago where the falling towers were explained in detail. Tower two fell first because more weight above the impact. It fell slightly on a lean because the plane hit off center. Tower one fell later because of LESS weight above the impact. They kept showing close up footage of the collapsing towers. ANY moron with at least an eighth grade level of education could figure it out. Pathetic, pathetic disrespectful little shits!

sorry, i just had to get first post.

i'd say make an exemption for free speech in this case, but that'd probably be giving them more attention than they're worth.

wouldn't mind 'em being in Gitmo though. with "coercive measures."

(just kidding...?)

it is ridiculous when people act like any regulation of demonstrations is horribly anti-democratic. as if demonstrations are the primary foundation of a democratic society.

I spent the morning at the WTC memorial and most striking is how many protestos there were not. These mild deniers were in T-Shirts only, those with signs were kept a city block away from the readers.

There didn't seem to be much of a dress code for the deniers, other than Seattle grunge. That contrasted with the general dress-up of the civilians and the smart looking uniforms of all stripes that were about.

Mostly the deniers looked like complete losers giving themselves some excitement by denying the obvious.

I spent the morning at the WTC memorial and most striking is how many protestos there were not. These mild deniers were in T-Shirts only, those with signs were kept a city block away from the readers.

There didn't seem to be much of a dress code for the deniers, other than Seattle grunge. That contrasted with the general dress-up of the civilians and the smart looking uniforms of all stripes that were about.

Mostly the deniers looked like complete losers giving themselves some excitement by denying the obvious.

Actually, I do believe there were those devises installed ahead of time by all the islamists involved in the events that day.

By the way, was the actual perp ever discovered in Atlanta? Everyone remembers the name Richard Jewel and that he was exhonorated, but who was finally arrested? So many planes have for no real reason exploded over the years, includeing many following the 911 events... and I believe it there has been a diliberate attempt to cover up dozens of islamic explosions since Lockerbe.

just to be clear, the last part wasn't sarcasm.

F*cking punks. They're "Generation X-Files".

For anyone new to the site, here are some rebuttals.

#1

#2

Notice how they all look so zombified? (And I am not talking about our own Zombie from zombie times)?

#15 newsjunkie

that's the goofiest looking bunch of people I've seen in quite a while.

I think they need to get laid.

Notics how most of them have their hands in their pockets. No patriotic hooker would take their money. These jerks need to form their own circle.

can't blame them though. think about it, 9-11 is the penultimate target of rebelliousness. Look at the images, these guys seem to be late-teen rebels/early 20s seekers... Can you imagine a better anti-establishment fight?

Let's just hope these kids, and mental kids, grow up and realize the folly they engage in.

What is wrong with those people?

They all need to be locked up in the Nut House.

These aren't men.

Kevin Cosgrove was a man. Todd Beamer was a man. Rick Rescorlas was a man.

They should be forced to watched the streaming videofrom that day and see how it all happened...

Watching it again today, it is pretty clear that this was not a conspiracy.

These turds probably think Hitler as concocted by Bush Cheney and rove to cover up their starting WWII.

I see an increasingly alarming amount of mental illness out there.

How do such idiots even find their way home at night?

What possible useful contribution will such dipshits ever be able to make to society?

ASS HOLE MOTHER FUCKING BASTARDS!

I HATE THEM BEYOND RATIONAL THOUGHT
TODAYS NAZI SCUM BAGS

#15 newsjunkie_ky

that's the goofiest looking bunch of people I've seen in quite a while.

I think they need to get laid.

ewww, image!

They all need a blow to the head with the clue stick.

Notice none of them are at work today?

Clueless Losers

#26 sixstringslinger

They're "Generation X-Files".

haha, that's just brilliant!

Human debris. They're not even worth spitting on.

Scum..plain and simple..SCUM!

riff raff obeying their socialist handlers. true brownshirts.

They think they're rock stars, or something. A good bitch-slapping would wipe that stupid smirk off beatnik-beard-boy's mug.

F*cking pissant.

#34 You mean it wasn't?

"Tou can't fix stupid"

Ron White

Hi loppyd
Most of them look like automatons who have spent too much time reading Chomsky and The Nation.

uN FREAKING BELIEVABLE. i BLAME THEIR PARENTS FOR NOT TEACHING THEM RESPECT.

Nothing wrong with those kids a good ass kicking couldn't fix.

On second thought, if I were there, I would have spat upon them.

I also believe there are many more islamic individuals that planned the events on 911 that have either not been found or bothered to have been found, or that the state dept knows a lot more than will reveal to the american public concerning how serious a threat this islamic bomb really is... i think its much worse than any of us can imagine.

#28

That's what happens when high school drop outs run out of meth.

No. 24 Teacake!

You don't need any "devices". The outer columns lost enough connections to the floors that their unbraced length got too long, and according to Euler's famous formula, they buckled out from under their loads. The outer columns did not even have to be hot because steel is ductile at room temperature. Then the superincumbent weight of the floors above them smashed everything below.

Including people.

I'm not going to waste anymore time on this.

I'd like to hear their ideas on who was responsible for the first WTC attack, Khobar Towers, the African embassies, the USS Cole, Madrid, BaliX2, London, Casablanca, Istanbul...

They would look like total morons even without the shirts.

Boy, after seeing this picture, I'm sure glad we don't have to rely on them to defend our country.

Idiots!

I wonder if the bunny hutch guy is there.

Wonder what Starbucks and Borders are using for clerks today?

Unfortunately, it isn't only lefties who buy into this crap-o-la... I run into so-called "right-wing" Libertarians who consider the theories of contolled demolition credible.

JammieWearingFool

On second thought, if I were there, I would have spat upon them.

You would have to beat me to it.

Take a look at the dude with the sign. Velcro sneakers. Need I say more?

Also the dude in the lower left corner is yawning...yeah he's really fired up. Bet you a nickel he got paid to be there.

#34

well you DO know Bush's grandpa was a crypto-Nazi right? that's what i hear from "progressive" circles anyway. i wouldn't ever disagree with them, cuz no one wants to be regressive right?

#39 so.cal.swede

Why, thank you.

49 Jammiewearingfool

On second thought, if I were there, I would have spat upon them.

They deserve to be peed on!

I'd like to reach through my monitor and bitch-slap every single one of them.

This is the kind of thing the Protest Warriors are good at. They would stand out there with a buch of signs with stupidity like
"The WTC never existed!"
"The Gov't faked the live video we all saw"
"OBL is really a fireman"
"Bush is OBL in drag"
and so on...

The founding fathers bestowed on this country powerful rights and liberties, with the understanding that a moral and just country can be trusted to exercise such rights in a manner appropriate and befitting such power. However, we are no longer such a just and moral country, not as large a majority, anyway. The authors of the Constitution could never have perceived an ACLU, which wraps itself up in our founding documents defending child molesters, while at the same trying to outlaw the military or the boy scouts from organizing on public property. I don't care how many JDAMs, MOABs, satellites, etc. we have, if we don't restore moral clarity in this country, we will lose this war.

Check out the "protesters". Any further questions?

Big differences between these cowards and honest Americans
1) Having someone you love whose welfare and wee-being you put above your own.
2) responsibilities.ie.a mortgage or rent to make every month.
3) a sense of self-preservation,ie. your life is worth something.

#58

they're extremely right-wing on the economy, but with anything else, they're left. so it's not a surprise that some hardcore libertarians'd buy into this ish.

I Beleive that I have seen some of these people around New York City and I am certain that they are LaRoucheites.

Hot Air has the Loose Change losers debating the Popular Mechanics editors on their conspiracy theory.

Let's just say it's a spanking.

#62 Joel... They are not worth the urine, my friend.

I blame Ronald Reagan. He drove the Left insane. They have never recovered.

How do I get an XXL Halliburton T-shirt or polo? I would love to wear that around Cambridge to screw with the pinkos. I'd buy a Zero Halliburton briefcase, but don't have that much scratch- it is all tied up in diapers, formula and my HT subwoofer fund (Dayton Titanic 12" kit looks good).

Seriously, is there a company store?

In the bottom photo, in the lower lefthand corner is some middle aged guy sitting down yawning. Doing the work for the Mullahs can be so tiresome. Times must be tough these days for the moonbats.

I'd like to reach through my monitor and bitch-slap every one of them.

Where did the left find these twits--the unemployment line? A methadone clinic?

71 Billhedrick
Agree. They are in the words of Dirty Harry "dog shit, and a lot of things can happen to dog shit. It can be stepped on, shrivelled up and blown away."

Do any of these people ever ponder the question "If the Bush Administration could plant explosives in the WTC and Pentagon for comrtolled explosions to take them down and not get caught doing it or leave any proof of it behind, how is it that I haven't been killed by a fatal 'accident' yet?"

E-mailed to me this AM from a friend:

As we speak, the Great Unwashed are across the street at Ground Zero wearing t-shirts that say "Investigate 9/11" and a large banner that says "The Bush Regime Engineered 9/11" (Mergs, I had to remember your comment from Meribel that 40-year-olds don't get into fistfights). Needless to say, they were getting a lot of the media attention while a lone counter-protester with a banner saying "Condemn the Al Qaeda terrorists" stood by himself in front of the Millenium Hilton.

The escaped mental patients want to blame big daddy and then head back to the hammock for more pot-smoking.

In a strange, sick sort of way. I have more anger and hatred for these freaks than I do the jihadi's. The jihadi's, at least were raised in an environment where this kind of genocidal hatred was preached at home from day one, not that that's an excuse. These wastes of space were raised in the freest, most prosperous society in the history of the human race. They DO know better. That is what makes it even more disgusting.

And to think Charles Rangel proposes drafting these nitwits.

Little Mister Smirking Abe Lincoln MiniBeard... oh, he's pissing me off more and more every time I refresh the page. I hope to meet him soon in a dark alley.

When I look at the s_itbirds in the bottom photo, the following comes immediately to my mind -- and I want to tell them...

"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son"

channeling Dean V. Wormer, Faber College

Here comes a new Democratic party constituent group - 9/11 deniers.

#80 bebelbrox:

In a strange, sick sort of way. I have more anger and hatred for these freaks than I do the jihadi's.

I know what you mean. I think in part it's because they represent to us what Melville called an "assailable evil".

[Link: www.law.umkc.edu...] this is Sheik Mohammed's statement in moussaoui trial. It's 58 pages in pdf, but gives a good summary of the plan for 9/11 that began in 1996.

What viscious irony

All those good people died on 9-11

And all of these animals are still living

Poster children for Government sponsored free prescription program.

Aren't they a real piece of work. If this represents their best and brightest...well, you get the picture.

Picture #2 made some words pop into my head:

Bring Back The Draft

I say that as someone who served as an officer in the Army and has always opposed anything short of an all volunteer Army.

Perhaps we need people to experience training for war so they can have a greater value for their freedoms and the high cost of maintaining it - as opposed to squandering their freedom of speech around a baseless, feel good idea that makes hating your countrymen easier to rationalize.

SLACKERS!

/Back to The Future

Did you all see that professor from one of the Texas Universities on FOX News this weekend with Brian Wilson?

He was saying that no planes hit the Towers. That it was a cartoon drawing placed there.

here's a great dubunking of the controlled demolition morons by demolition professionals.

[Link: www.implosionworld.com...]

this page has great quotes by one of the top demolition pros in the buisness, who just also happens to be taken out of context by the Loose Change jerkoffs.the folks over at Implosionworld.com (gotta love the name) have released a report on controlled demolition theories at the WTC.

[Link: onautopilot.blogspot.com...]

“The explosives configuration manufacturing technology [to bring down those buildings] does not exist… If someone were to attempt to make such charges, they would weigh thousands of pounds apiece. You would need forklifts to bring them into the building.”
-Mark Loizeaux, Controlled Demolition, Inc.

Screw Loose Change has effective rebuttals of many of these numbnuts. Of course, none of this stuff matters to them. They're convinced of a conspiracy to bring down the towers. Doesn't matter that there's a 10,000 page report studying the engineering, metallurgy, physics, and other scientific and architectural factors that went into the collapses.

Whether it's BushRoveHalliburtonOilCo or the CIA or Mossad, they can't believe that it was Islamic terrorists who destroyed the 7 buildings at the WTC complex, damaged 30 others, with two more having to be torn down even at this date - Fiterman Hall and the Deutsche Bank building.

Cranks in academia don't help matters either, though some universities are starting to realize that this is bad business for their reputations.

More than a few try to focus on the collapse of 7WTC several hours after the towers came down, and claim that no other steel skyscraper had ever been destroyed solely by fire. Of course, that's patently untrue as even 7WTC wasn't solely destroyed because of fires that raged out of control, but was severely and fatally damaged by the collapsing WTC towers themselves.

These folks, however, are exercising their freedom to make complete asses of themselves. And I consider it a right, privilege, and duty to expose their BS.

OR

They look like a lot of the 'youts' I see in court...judges tend to hate this type more than they do your average run-of-the-mill criminals. My favorite judge loves to rail at punks like that and gives them the speech that "if he had the power he would send their sorry behinds to boot camp in Parris Island"

Yes, there are some sane judges in MA!

Kudos to Zach for having the willpower to not engage in a physical altercation.  Doubt I would have been able to manage that feat.
 

Ask these people exactly how everything was set up to demolish the buildings in a controlled manner and you will get blank stares. If it was done in the manner they propose, the conspirators would have had to contend with at the very least 50,000 employees that work in those buildings on a daily basis.

Conspiracy theorists never follow Occam's Razor and only point at evidence that "supports" their theories. When you start to confront the other aspects that lead up to the result they tout, it all unravels. Those arguments just cannot stand up to the simplest of logical reasoning.

Someone else said on another thread at some point . . . the people that spout off that it was an inside job also say the government is incompetent. Well, which is it? How can you be incompetent *AND* pull off the kind of conspiracy they are proposing?

#79 FrogMarch 9/11/2006 12:26PM PDT
The escaped mental patients want to blame big daddy and then head back to the hammock for more pot-smoking.

All their bongs are belong to us!
~ The Ganjahadeen

Hey, moonbats! Can you find me one licensed structural engineer anywhere in the 50 states who will support your theory?

Didn't think so.

I live in LA. It used to be Moonbat Central. All goofy ideas seemed to start in Southern California, and would sometime drift northward, to SF Bay. Now it looks like the weirdness has sort of drifted all over this great country. Maybe it's like an internet virus. It has infected a large part of the democrat party, alas.

#77
Laurence,
I suppose it never occured to them that if the GOP was that competent, it would have seized all the worlds oilfields, exiled Billary, insituted the Ten Commandments as Law, and made the Dallas Cowboys prepetual Super Bow Champions by decree.

Hell, the state of Mass cannot even build a 5 billion dollar tunnel that is safe; the last time I looked, FEMA still had 10,000 travel trailers rotting in Mississippi, and Arnold is about to consign the California economy to the dustpin of history.

These people probably listen to Art Bell while dropping microdot

#89 karmic_inquisitor

Or, in the case of these fine upstanding "youths", sometimes you just need cannon fodder.

#77 Laurence Simon

If all of the conspiracy theorists had an "accident", that would prove it was a conspiracy and Bush is trying to silence them! Don't you know that?

Seriously, I don't believe they have the mental capability to use reason to come to that obvious conclusion. The thing that scares me is these wacko theories are gaining more traction in the mainstream.

I'd make "Little Mister Smirking Abe Lincoln MiniBeard" (I like that! Hat tip: Occasional Reader) read this out loud a thousand times, assuming the sniveling little piece of human excrement can even read above a 2nd grade level.

A Bongtwa on the whole of Koslam!

GANJIHAD!

These crumbs arent even worth commenting on. To think of all the good people lost on that day, while these crumbs still take in oxygen.

I don't think anything should happen to this passel of numbnuts, besides their dorm-rooms getting tossed by thorough detectives, their laptops scanned for criminal and/or conspiratorial activity, and their school, criminal and immigration histories checked for anything the slightest bit hinky.

Aside from that, just laugh at them. The beatnik is the best! LOL. The blonde douche behind him looks lost, like someone told him there would be bongs and babes at this bash. Bummer!

Obviously, these idiots are insane. Okay, for the sake of argument, let's assume they're correct and BushCo brought the towers down in a controlled demolition so that they would have an excuse to invade Afghanistan so they could build a (still nonexistent) pipeline or whatever.

Their main evidence for their implosion theory is Building 7, if it wasn't a controlled demolition, why did it collapse? After all, it wasn't hit by a plene (nevermind all the falling, burning debris)?

Now, think about it, Bushco has already imploded the Twin Towers and killed almost 3,000 people, You'd think they'd already racked up all the excuses they'd need to invade Afghanistan or wherever.

Why on Earth would they then implode Building 7, already evacuated, SIX HOURS LATER? What's the [expletive deleted] point, to make the conspiracy even more obvious?

/do these cretins have any sembance of rational logical thought or ability to formulate a coherent narrative?

How do I get an XXL Halliburton T-shirt or polo? I would love to wear that around Cambridge to screw with the pinkos. I'd buy a Zero Halliburton briefcase, but don't have that much scratch- it is all tied up in diapers, formula and my HT subwoofer fund (Dayton Titanic 12" kit looks good).

Lots of Halliburton designs people have knocked up on Cafepress. There's a few token ones from the moonbats though.

These wankers need to go back into their parents basements and stay there. They're not smart enough to cross the street alone without help.

#84 Occasional Reader

Perhaps, though for me they are not representative of anything else, nor is my rage focused on them merely because they are accessable. My disguse is concrete, palpable, and very real specifically for these freaks.

/the words i want to use aren't really appropriate for work

Vile little idiots.

Romans 12:

Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.Do not be conceited.

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"says the Lord. On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."

Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

More pics please?

#98 Earth2moonbat
but...but...what about burning bunny hutch man?

I wonder if a bunch of angry soldiers or firefighters DID start to pound these creeps, would the NYPD on duty at Ground Zero sort of slowly stretch, yawn, finish their coffee, check their cellphones for messages, before eventually ambling over and saying "what's all this, then".

I just purchased Dr. David Ray Griffin's book, "Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11." It's one massive conspiracy theory about everything since Anglo-Saxon people started living together. You know, us A-S types invented slavery, war, and the thieving of oil.

Why did I buy it? Because I wanted to have instant access to one of the best examples of Christian pacifist-one world-America- hating books there is. He is such a nut. He thinks Jesusism can solve all the world's problems, conveniently ignoring the fact that several billion people around the world have no interest in Jesus Christ. Moreover, about 10 million Muslims (my standard best estimate) are completely obsessed with killing Christians, Jews, Polytheists, Infidels, and Apostates.

Hmm,let me try this again.
Their whole conceptual logic base for their theories is:
"since my mom has never caught me whacking in my room,Bush has the money to keep an even bigger secret"

Still waiting for that one licensed S.E to come forward...

The very first people the Shari'a Police will behead when the Caliphate takes over will be these psychopaths.

"How DARE you insult Islam by implying that Caliph bin Laden did not plan the attacks! Are you saying that the Jews or the Infidels are more clever than the Caliph? Kneel, and expose your neck!"

Is Nodrog feeling persecuted today?

#81
Beatnik Beard Boy is the real "Smirking Chimp"!

Just remember
the next time someone says
What Would Jesus Do...
the answer is :

Sometimes, He would make a whip, scream and yell, and chase the assholes out of the courtyard with it.

They are pathetic attention seekers and this definitely gives them their 15 minutes. Pity that this is their choice of cause but that being said, may they rot in hell and get there on a way way ticket by way of the jihadis that they are obviously so enamoured of.

A page right out of "Unholy Alliance" by David Horowitz.

Here's the real face of these losers..

I have heard on countless occasions that our foreign policy is to blame for the oppression of Muslims and their hatred of the US. Could someone please explain to me exactly which US policies are supposedly oppressing Muslims around the world?

OT, but could someone recommend a book detailing the history of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict since Israel was created in 1947 (or was it 1948? I can't remember).

Complete and utter fools!

#112 Gordon: Tell ya what, why don't you head on over to Waziristan to feed and clothe the jihadists? Boy, will show them (and us) a thing or two.

OMFG.

#114 BabbaZee

Didn't see the S.E. after burning bunny hutch man's name.

I've known several licensed S.E.s, from moonbat to Buchannanite, and none of them would touch this conspiracy stuff with a ten foot pole. For dillitantes only.

~sigh!~

Popular Mechanics - Debunking The 9/11 Myths - Mar. 2005 Cover Story--Another one is done here, a blog covering the comments of EXPERTS in the field. Then there is this debunking by [Link: www.implosionworld.com...] THE definitive word on the subject.

I guess you could mess with what little brains these nitwits have by saying that if Clinton had gone to war in Afghanistan over the USS Cole (and Khobar and the embassies and everything else) like he should have, BushMcHalliburtonHitler would not have had to blow up the WTC.

Simple. It's really all Clinton's fault.

Gordon, again, as an Episcopalian, whose church was still part of the Catholic church back in the day, Augustinian "Just War" theory comes into play.

The passages about repaying enemies with kindness refers to personal enemies, and even then, is interpreted by no one with a brain as meaning if someone is coming to kill you you shouldn't resist.

#129 Earth2moonbat
Notoriously dillentatish!

It's here. And it can't defend the nutty conspiracy theories, so it tries to change the subject.

"There's no drog but nodroG, and Gordon is it's messenger."

Something is going awfully wrong when a third of Americans buy into this conspiracy crap. Even my own brother questions the official history of 9/11.

And I honestly don't know how to fight it. I know a lot about 9/11, but not everything. And I am tired of arguing with people who spew out a dozen questions before I can even answer their first.

Sorry to gripe, fellow lizardoids. I guess I have grown tired in my old age.

#125 schlagerman

OT, but could someone recommend a book detailing the history of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict since Israel was created in 1947 (or was it 1948? I can't remember).

BabbaZee is your girl for that.

Behold the Gramscian Whores ~!

OT but fitting:

aircraft reports show Tropical Depression #7 has flight level winds of 47 knots, correpsonding to about 45 mph surface winds, meaning TD #7 will be upgraded to Nodrog at 4:45 pm EDT. Nodrog forecast to wander aimlessly over the North Atlantic uintil finally drifting over colder waters and dying.

790
URNT12 KNHC 111905
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 11/18:59:30Z
B. 21 deg 29 min N
057 deg 11 min W
C. NA mb NA m
D. 40 kt
E. 300 deg 008 nm
F. 034 deg 037 kt
G. 300 deg 007 nm
H. EXTRAP 1005 mb
I. 22 C/ 305 m
J. 24 C/ 307 m
K. 23 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 12345/ 1
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. AF301 0107A CYCLONE OB 08
MAX FL WIND 47 KT NE QUAD 17:12:00 Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 1500 FT.

What sad individuals. Worthless. Unfunny. Jokers.

'it's' cherry picking writings out of context.

Ed,

Gordon is probably an arab from Berlin. I imagine his real name is Achmed; he lives with his mother and 22 cousins in a mietkaserne. He gets 50 pfenning from Hamas for every post that sows confusion.

Guy in the front w/the knit cap, convert or born?

Simply watch the live video. There was no lower explosion. Both towers collapsed from massive damage at the points of impact. It's totally obvious. There is no visual evidence of ancillary demolition. Why am I even arguing this point? Cuz I'm pissed, and I've had enough.

And for all those numbnuts who prattle on about people hearing "secondary explosions", please read Tilly's Story on the left sidebar.

/she'll explain to you exactly what those "explosions" were

I think they should all move to France. They're so delusional they think they're still relevant.

Teacake, the Olympic Park Bomber is Eric Rudolph.

One look at these freaks should tell you all you need to know about them.

Is this the line for the quillotine?

what a bunch of pathetic ugly losers, nice to see they took time off their busy schedules of playing warcraft and not getting laid.

#81 OR

Little Mister Smirking Abe Lincoln MiniBeard... oh, he's pissing me off more and more every time I refresh the page. I hope to meet him soon in a dark alley.

LOL! (but to me he looks like he's doing his best Che)

#136 loppyd 9/11/2006 12:44PM PDT

#125 schlagerman

OT, but could someone recommend a book detailing the history of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict since Israel was created in 1947 (or was it 1948? I can't remember).

BabbaZee is your girl for that.

Here is something he can read on line

The case for Israel

The Pledge

Makes me want to show them personally what a box cutter can do...

Controlled Demolition

Controlled by the same Rovian genius controlling what passes for your mind.

Each one of those guy's in the black t-shirts need a giant sized kick in the n*ts...nuff said!

#135 anthean

Something is going awfully wrong when a third of Americans buy into this conspiracy crap. Even my own brother questions the official history of 9/11.

I think there are several reasons why, but this may give you some insight as to why it's so popular.

In a nutshell, too many dillitante "structural engineers" who will believe their intuition over the knowledge of experts. I'm afraid we're reverting to the flat earth age. Intuition over knowledge. Next thing you know, lighter objects will start having less gravitational acceleration than heavier ones. And the moon will be made of green cheese, and...

I find that reason, common sense, and logic are absent in the mind of a leftwing. Total objectivity is rejected in favor of hatred for George Bush.

What is amusing is that they continually define him as one who lacks any intelligence yet in the same breath accuse him of conceiving and executing some of the most complex and sophisticated conspiracies in the history of human existence.

Yet they cannot differentiate themselves from the same hatred demonstrated by 13th century Islamo fascists.

It is a deplorable and miserable existence to possess the mind of a leftwing nutroot.

#112

Getting spanked on the other thread isn't enough so you have to bring it here to for more? Must be a masochist.

He seems to love taking things out of context. This passage refers to vigilanteism and taking matters into your own hands.

This is not a passage to use to support a position of letting justice go the way of the dodo nor allowing evil to prevail over good and decent people.

Try again.

One of the Nodrogs claimed to be an Episcopalian once.

OT, but could someone recommend a book detailing the history of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict since Israel was created in 1947 (or was it 1948? I can't remember).

Dershowitz's The Case For Israel

#135 Anthean

The only thing I've found that sometimes works is "Okay genuis, explain how you would pull off this mission impossible." Sit back and allow them to spin their theory and then shoot gaping holes into it. This doesn't work all the time of course, some people are simply to deluded and have far to high of an opinion of their own intelligence to even see when they are full of it.

Instead of being enraged maybe we should be proud. Proud that we have such an advanced and wealthy civilization that we can afford to support such parasites throughout their lives.

#125 schlagerman

We don't oppress them. Rather, the West humiliates them with our military capabilities, our technology, our efficient governments (don't laugh now), our non-corrupt courts and police forces, paved roads, etc.

Israel especially humuliates them, living in the same neighborhood--truly a David that both slays Goliath and writes the Psalms.

I love it when all the folks from Democratic Underground go on a field trip like this. It gets them out of the basement for a whil and they might even see that some people actually go to work in this world. Imagine that. Their moms probably like it, too. It gives them a chance to clean up their messy bedrooms while they're out of the house.

I'm sorry but "Beatnik, bearded idiot" should have gotten filled in just for the smug self righteous look on his face alone. I can only assume that it was due to the solemnity of the day that no-one actually gave any of these idiots a right good kicking. Of course should anyone ever bump into any of them, give 'em a crack for me will you?.

Can't get past the smirking little leprechaun but I did notice how the numbers 9/11 with the little logo looks real similar to the Hezbollah flag.

BabbaZee:

All their bongs are belong to us! ~ The Ganjahadeen

Would that be those Jamaican Jihadis? Yaaa mon...

#125 schlagerman

OT, but could someone recommend a book detailing the history of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict since Israel was created in 1947 (or was it 1948? I can't remember).

From Time Immemorial, by Joan Peters, THE definative work on the subject.

Get back to me sometime after you have read it, and give my your thoughts on the matter.

Christ said "turn the other cheek", not " stick out your neck and surrender to the devil and his facist killers".

uhmm...duh.

nodrog, you do a splendid job of starting crap with something you don't even believe in.
Charles... haven't we had enough already?

This is the reason I gave to Senator Santorum's campaign and may give money in some of the other close Senate races. We cannot allow this side of the political divide access to our institutions. If we want to see a true controlled destruction of the United States, allow the Democrats to take the House and Senate in November.

I looked up the word stupid in the dictionary and this picture was right next to it.

Ed Mahmoud yada yada:

This is a storm:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Obviously the problem here with the conspiratorial types is not simply a matter of inadequate understanding of science. There are even some people with enough technical knowledge to avoid such errors who are caught up in them.
The real issue seems to be an obduracy about the reality of the war of Islam against everyone which generated the murderous attacks of 9/11 (and the thousands before through history).
For fourteen hundred years, Islam has made war, when it could, on everyone. It does so because its adherents are religiously so commanded.
The doctrine of "naskh" allows Muslims to disregard the earlier "peace " passages in the Koran in favor of the later "sword" verses, as the doctrine of "Taqiyya" permits (indeeds demands) lying about anything which might hinder the advance of Islam, and the doctrine of "hudna" demands there be no permanent peace treaties between Muslim and non-Muslim entities.
A failure to grasp these facts, and the historical realities, combined with the equally ill-informed assumption that the US is somehow the fountain of all evil in the world and a visceral hatred of Pres. Bush makes it all but impossible for these vaguely leftist oriented people to do anything other than they do.
It is sad,. and dangerous. Their ignorance may be invincible, however, so it is best not to worry about them but merely to make the truth more widespread.

Here's the deal. I was at a non-political event this weekend. Mostly guys there (much beer was consumed). About half of them watch Daily show and Colbert (sp)almost every night (and buy the DVDs, get the books).

Nice guys (for the most part) but:

A) Incredibly ignorant about current events.

B) Zero respect for elected leaders

C) They think the shows are real

D) Fall for all the Bush bashing

E) Did I say very ignorant about current events?

I read a newspaper each morning (over three days) and was known as "look, it's Dave and his newspaper". They thought it was weird that someone would sit there and read a newspaper every morning.

F) Oh, and they all vote Democratic. The Republicans in the group decided not to do political bashing since this was a non-political event.

So, that's where this thread's topic comes from. People who watch the Daley show to get their news.

I as on Church Street in from the PATH station at 7:45 this morning and found about two dozen of these unwashed freaks in their T-shirt uniforms. They gathered together apart from the crowd and appeared nervous, perhaps thinking they would be attacked or arrested. But everyone ignored them. On the most solemn of days and at the most hallowed of locations, normal people had no time for their frivolity and delusions. And tomorrow they will be back behind the counter at Starbucks or stinking up the student lounge at their community college.

NODROG -

So the "post biblical quotes that the religious-right will stumble over" campaign continues.

Well guess what - both the Bible and New Testament are filled with contradictions.

Your case would be compelling if you could argue for a unitary interpretation of Christian holy books by refuting such luminaries as Spinoza and des Cartes.

Interestingly, Spinoza and des Cartes triggered the enlightenment, which freed the west from theocratic oppression.

So what is it that you are trying to argue?

As for quotes to live by, read Leviticus. In there I can find al sorts of justifications for killing all sorts of people - from homosexuals to Muslims - all as a matter of "God's will."

The smirky one with the beard must be Maynard G. Krebs' grandson.

#125 schlagerman

I would recommend From Time Immemorial, Joan Peters. A tough read, but very good.

This is the field right outside my apartment door. Its all too much to go down there.
[Link: www.nyc911memorialfield.org...]

this is future version of this text, which has childern will be holding..

controlled koranic doses brought human civilization down..

Not to nit-pick, but the Prophet of Satan, Mohammad, and his demonic followers, came long after Leviticus.

M. Bensonn-Levi:

Didn't mean to step on you! Posting is a little draggy and I missed yours. Well now s/he has two endorsements :)

What the $%#@! have they got to smirk about? "Lookit us, everybody! Question authority, maaan!"

A mind is a terrible thing to be born without.

BTW - the simplest and most compelling argument against this nonsense has nothing to do with engineering, but with management science. In short, the controlled demolition:

1. Accomplishes nothing. I mean really! The buildings were already destroyed. If they hadn't fallen, they would have had to be taken down anyway. What was to be accomplished? Earth to moonbat!

2. The actual setting of the explosives and the wiring would have been just a bit conspicuous, dontcha think? And maybe after cooking in that fire for over an hour some of them might have gon off prematurely? And maybe the insulation would have cooked off the wires, rendering them nonfunctional? And with all that, it all went off like clockwork?

3. No organization, much less a government organization, can maintain that kind of secrecy on a plot that large. I mean does anyone out there really think that many people can keep their lips zipped with million-dollar book deals waiting for the first one who sings?

Get real. Put down the bong. Now.

#132 Ed: I would put these poor deluded moonbats illustrated above on par with "personal enemies," not al qaeda. They are to be reasoned with and forgiven, not beaten up or jailed or killed.

Tinfoil-Hats-R-Us

Andrew Cline warns in NROnline today;

A Conspiracy Against Us All
9/11 doubters discard the truth.

We cannot allow the truth of what happened on 9/11 to be clouded by the conspiracy nuts. America cannot afford to lose the will to fight this war.

Penn Jillette was right... if you see these people, throw them down a flight of stairs.

Based on the various conspiracy theories out there, I calculate that several hundred, if not thousands of people would have had to be involved, from getting the WTT ready for the controlled implosion to getting rid of all of the people on the flights (if memory serves correct, one theory says that the passengers were disemabrked and murdered)to the planning etc. All of these people are keeping quiet 5 years after 9/11. Yet the USA cannot even keep a top secret surveillance program secret with much fewer people being involved. And the moonbats like to call themseles "reality based". I sure wish they would share what they have been smoking with the rest of us.

#166 Owl

Charles... haven't we had enough already?

But nodroG's special. Banning nodroG would be like banning AI.

Err...did I say that?

#174 Prester John

The smirky one with the beard must be Maynard G. Krebs' grandson.

I was trying to think of that name! Yes, he looks like Maynard G.-f*cking-Krebs!

Filthy little vermin.

Challenge them to a duel and watch them wet themselves.

I LUV to duel! Click my football.

#154 Earth2moonbat
#159 Steel Rain

Thanks.

Personally, I think the fundamental cause is that the war on terror (especially Iraq) has proved difficult. And a substantial portion of the American people no longer have the stamina for sacrifice.

From the left's perspective, believing that a single man (George Bush) or small cabal is responsible is in principle easier to mentally cope with than the truth that much of the Islamic world wants us dead.

I myself don't have a good answer for dealing with the hatred of the entire Muslim world, other than defending ourselves as best we can. But I do try to face reality.

#125 Another good one that talks about the run-up to 1948 is:

Peace to End All Peace: Creating the Modern Middle East,1914-1922
by Fromkin,David

#173 karmic-inquisitor:

So the "post biblical quotes that the religious-right will stumble over" campaign continues.

Well guess what - both the Bible and New Testament are filled with contradictions

But the religious right asserts that the Bible is the inerrant word of God. How can the ierrant word of God have contradictions?

And yes, Ed, I am an Episcopalian. Yesterday, at the back of my service bulletin, the following prayer appeared:

Lord, make me an instrument of Your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.
O Lord, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love;
for it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

Somehow, I thought is appropriate to post it on this day, on this site.

The 9/11 conspiracy is such a completely insane proposition that anyone who would buy into it is below contempt or even pity. You have to despise everything about America to even give it a second thought.

Ridicule the 9/11 conspiracy kooks. Insult them, make fun of them, laugh at them, and belittle them. At work, in the mall, on the street, at family reunions, wherever... They are a toxic mix of gullible ignorance and violent hate. You can't walk past them and ignore it.

Let's stone Nodrog -

Leviticus tells us how ..

16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.

...

22 Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.

Nodrog has blasphemed God by quoting him out of context to further his own ends.

Let the stoning begin!

/I think Leviticus points out contradiction in the Biblical works of Christianity, and use this absurd illustration to prove the point.

#125 schlagerman

Martin Gilbert wrote a book about the history of Israel. Check it out.

As for moonbats blaming the evils of the world on the US (BEEEG SATAN) or Israel (LEETTLE SATAN) I would recommend anything by David Horowitz, you can also check out Michelle Malkin ("Unhinged") and anything by Fallaci.

#112 Gordo

Thanks for the scripture, now let serious people get about the business of killing those evil motherf*ckers.

Bless them, even, if it makes you feel better. Bless them for blowing all those evil bastards to kingdom come.

And maybe step aside, for we're in the mood to strike them down, with furious vengeance if I'm not mistaken.

In His name, I give thanks and remember all those that fell five years ago, all those that fell before, and all since.

Maybe I missed the spirit of the post.

NODROG -

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyrannies of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepards the weak through the valley of darkness for he is truly his brothers keeper, and the finder of lost children. And I shall strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!

Ezekiel

Never Forget.

#182 Gordon

#132 Ed: I would put these poor deluded moonbats illustrated above on par with "personal enemies," not al qaeda. They are to be reasoned with and forgiven, not beaten up or jailed or killed.

Yes, it is uncouth the beat the stupid, but mighty temptin...

I almost never post to you, Gordon, but if you're trying to get me to ban you today, continuing to spam every thread with sneering Biblical quotes just might do it.

Have some decency.

Re Post 60 -- Trey Stone

In 1941, Prescott Bush, father of George Herbert Walker Bush, was indited by the Federal Government and his bank confiscated because he was using it to launder money for Nazi bigwigs.

Both Prescott Bush and his father-in-law George Herbert Walker got rich out of shares in the Auschwitz slave labor camps.

These are documented facts.

Read the detailed investigations by John Loftus.

The picture says a million words. They look like rocket scientists to me /sarc

The Bell Curve:

Named for the bell-shaped normal distribution of IQ scores, the book claims there to have been the rise of a "cognitive elite" having a significantly higher than average chance of succeeding in life.

In the picture for this thread, Charles has presented us with those on the "left" side of the bell curve. "Left" - is that a coincidence?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
(Is it just me being picky, or is that sentence (cut and pasted) from Wikipedia full of typos?

#182 Gordon

There's no reasoning with these "poor deluded moonbats", I've tried, they're immune.

I'm certainly not going to forgive them, I can't forgive their hatred and willful stupidity.

But I won't beat them up or kill them, idiots and brainwashed undergraudates don't deserve martyrdom.

They're not worth anyone's time, effort or anger.

To narrow-minded twits like Gordon, everyone who isn't a moonbat is a "Conservative Christian," so it continues to post biblical quotes.

It doesn't realize that many (most?) posters here are either non-Christian, or non-religious.
 

...but what does one expect from those who have been indoctrinated by our looney left wing liberal education system?

I pass flatus in their general directions.

Sorry you feel that way, Charles. Sneering was not my intent. Goodbye.

Nice to see some entrepreneur making money off the ignorant with those t-shirts.

#195 brent

It seems like a 'turn the other cheek' kind of post.

I'm with you.

I'd like to preface my comment with the following:

Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Jesus said that.

Now, these anti-American, treasonous little pussy leftist chubby live in mom's basement smell like last week's fish freaks in these pictures? I'd like to kick each and every one hard in the gonads.

Come on down to the hole in the ground
And wear your jaunty beret
We'll rant at the neocons
And razz all those fascists
And put on our very best Che

They'll sputter and fuss
And get all, like, weepy
And call us like "commies" alright
And we'll shout some good slogans
And speak truth to power
And maybe we'll get in a fight

It's good to know everything
It's good to speak truth
And It's good to give shit to the man
Hey, mom - Where's my dinner?
And, dad - Where's my money?
And I'm taking the keys to the van

OT...

Sorry to stink up this board, but kos takes no breaks in promoting hate.

From [Link: www.hughhewitt.com...]

Markos Moulitsas, that avatar of left wing fury, has offered several touching 9/11 reminiscences today:

- “I think this day belongs to New Yorkers and Washingtonians, who bore the brunt of the attack. It's not about me, and it's certainly not about Bush, who after his famous Pet Goat moment cowardly fled and hid out in Nebraska in fear -- the same kind of abject fear they'd spend the next five years selling to the American people.”

- “Let's remember, Bush let 9/11 planner get away.”

- And quoting fellow angry blogger John Aravosis, “America has never faced an enemy as dangerous and as intent on killing us as King George, the Civil War, World War I, the Germans, the Japanese, a nuclear Soviet Union Al Qaeda.”

By all means, click over to the Daily Kos front page and sample the madness. The above just represents a sample! All angry politics, all the time. (And certainly no timeouts for solemn occasions.) No wonder Ned Lamont wanted to claim he knew nothing about the blogs.

#203 William

Precisely why some of us here consider the likes of storagemanager to be mobys. Real Christians aren't that preachy.

The American Society of Civil Engineers did a good job of explaining why the towers fell.

[Link: www.asce.org...]

The ASCE report can be viewed here:

[Link: www.fema.gov...]

I don't know any architect or engineer who doesn't believe that the heat and impact from the planes wasn't enough to bring the buildings down.

These folks just don't look like the engineering types. While it may be OK to be stupid, it's not OK to be inconsiderate of those who lost friends or family there.

131 Prestor John

guess you could mess with what little brains these nitwits have by saying that if Clinton had gone to war in Afghanistan over the USS Cole (and Khobar and the embassies and everything else) like he should have, BushMcHalliburtonHitler would not have had to blow up the WTC.

Simple. It's really all Clinton's fault.

The best ever. Loved it!

199 ...

Indicted has a C in it, much like irrelevant doesn't.

#198 Charles

Have some decency.

Exactly.

GH left a giant steaming turd on the Lileks 9/11 Video thread, so it seems the resident contrarians feel it is their duty to stink up the whole blog with their sneering, pedantic "look at me, damnit!" posts.

#182 nodroG
#132 Ed: I would put these poor deluded moonbats illustrated above on par with "personal enemies," not al qaeda. They are to be reasoned with and forgiven, not after they are beaten up or jailed or killed.
/fixed it for you. Not back there was only one typo.

In the People's Republic this morning, as U was driving to work I saw some freakos had put up a banner (creating a traffic jam) on an overpass saying "9/11 Was an Inside Job"

I then excercised MY free speech in a way I very rarely do. I flipped them the bird. Man, did that sign p*ss me off. Such willful ignorance...

Wow. I think I will say the Shehechiyanu prayer after seeing Gordon say "goodbye".

Shehechiyanu:

Baruch atah Adonai Elohenu melech ha'olam, shehecheyanu vekiyemanu vehigiyanu lazman hazeh.

Blessed are you, O Lord our God, ruler of the universe, who has given us life, sustained us and brought us to this day.

Clio, I'd like to see some documentation for that. I'd be surprised if old man Bush held shares in Auschwitz AG.

I want to thank everyone for the reading suggestions. I enjoy LGF because so many are willing to share information, and the depth of knowledge on a variety of topics is staggering. I consider it a privilege to post here.

Someone needs to remind them not to drink the bong water.

wow ... trolls ... I know that's what we call them when they make their foolish comments here at LGF, but I neaver realized that they actually looked like trolls too! Ugly, very ugly!

Romans 12: Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.

Praise God I am a Jew then. I cannot do that.

#191 Gordon -

Hey - we are agreed on something. But I couldn't give a rat's ass what the religious right thinks, except that they are a reliable ally against global Jihad.

My conscience is clear - no contradictions. Kill those who'd kill us. Fairly simple and fairly common in human history.

The darkest days of humanity have been under theocracies. Islamic theocracy is the singular and greatest threat to modernity it has yet faced. Islamists exploit weak minded liberals into undermining a struggle to repulse Jihad.

While I may not agree with the theology of my compatriots, I respect their right to have it as long as they respect my right to my views. Islam is about submission, and the elimination of all such rights.

That is the war we are in a nutshell. I wish you'd stop playing into the enemy's hands trying to undermine your compatriots. But you don't see such a threat from outside - the theocratic threat you see is from within. Absurd, if you don't mind me saying.

ETMB,

No, I don't want it banned, but it would be nice to know what kind of entity we are dealing with. I've been here for some time now, and there's always been speculation as to the whereabouts, gender, position, and intelligence( or lack thereof in this case) of the entity called "Gordon". Some say it's a college campus computer in a lab, accessed by maybe more than a few students. We get "semi-intelligent Gordon", " loony -Gordon", "angry Gordon" or "hateful piss and vinegar Gordon" on different days or even different posts on the same day.

Is it an American? Is it Polish? Russian? Muslim? A conglomerate of different individuals? One irrational looney? Someone who just likes to cause trouble for kicks?
Is it in America? Canada? China?

Why is it tolerated and kept around as a pet? When it gets called out, why will it answer some Lizards and not others? Why aren't there other leftists here that post like Gordon?
Where did it come from - how did it get here? Why isn't it banned - again, not that I want it to be - there are days when it's posts make me chuckle. Why can we not have one day ( 9-11 would be perfect IMHO) where it's not allowed to spew it's vile nature all over LGF?

I don't want to censor it, I want to understand it. Only by understanding it can I learn more about it and why it hates us, and why it hates America and where it lives. Wait. . . . did I say that last part out loud? :) Just kidding. I can't fly to Iran anyway.

Seriously though - what is "Gordon?"

There aren't as many contradictions as most people believe within the Bible. The only appear to be contradictions if you take the words out of context or misapply them to the wrong situation.

While not a trained Biblical scholar, I have attended more than my fair share of classes and lessons over the years. The inaccuracies people point out are actually fairly easy to explain, but of course, people continue to perpetuate the mistakes as people tend to do.

And to relate that to the topic at hand, these people lack common sense and the ability to reason as well as discard any facts that do not support their erroneous conclusions.

For those who wish to give Charles' server a break - MEMRI has a great video "Five Years Later" showing the total ignorance of the Middle East in regards to September 11, 2001. It is enlightening and sickening at the same time. Worth a bookmark to watch later, if pressed for time.
[Link: www.memrifilms.org...]

208

Writers mom's a smart, sensitive woman.

Sometimes sensitive people need deserve to get in a vendetta kind of mood. Today would be a good day for that.

What's the Christopher Walken line from "True Romance"?

I'm the Anti-Christ. You get me in a vendetta kind of mood, you will tell the angels in heaven that you had never seen pure evil so singularly personified as you did in the face of the man who killed you.

That's how those guys make me feel. Amen.

In the immortal words of Mark Levin:

"Give peace a chance, KILL the enemy!"

Clio

Some information compiled by RIP Ford about Prescott Bush:

The central charge against Prescott Bush has a basis in fact. In 1942, under the Trading With the Enemy Act, the U.S. government seized several companies in which he had an interest. Prescott at the time was an investment banker with Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), which had funneled U.S. capital into Germany during the 1920s and '30s. Among the seized companies was the Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York, which was controlled by German industrialist Fritz Thyssen. Thyssen had been an early financier of the Nazi party--in fact, in 1941 he published a book entitled I Paid Hitler. Ergo, Prescott helped finance the Nazis.

An article by journalist Toby Rogers makes an even more explosive charge. Another company in which Prescott and his associates had a stake was the Silesian-American Corporation (SAC), which owned several industrial concerns in Poland. The Auschwitz death camp was established in a district where SAC already had a steel plant. The plant allegedly used forced labor from Auschwitz during World War II. The article asserts that "a portion of the slave labor force in Poland was 'managed by Prescott Bush,' according to a Dutch intelligence agent.

The slave labor charge is easy to dismiss. SAC plants in Poland were taken over by the German government after the Nazi invasion of 1939, and the Auschwitz prison camp wasn't established until 1940. No one can seriously claim that Prescott Bush managed camp inmates in any of those plants.

Prescott's involvement with Nazi finance is more complicated. Though Thyssen had been an ardent backer of the Nazis in the early days, he broke with them in 1938 after the Kristallnacht pogrom against the Jews. He fled to Switzerland the following year, and Hitler confiscated his fortune and stripped him of his citizenship. In I Paid Hitler Thyssen confessed his role in financing the Nazis and denounced the Führer. Arrested in Vichy France, he spent the balance of the war as an Axis prisoner. Prescott Bush, for his part, owned a single share of stock (of 4,000) in UBC, the Thyssen bank. According to a 2001 Boston Globe piece, the New York Herald Tribune ran a story in July 1942 headlined "Hitler's Angel Has 3 Million in US Bank," in which Prescott and other BBH partners "explain[ed] to government regulators that their position [as directors of UBC] was merely an unpaid courtesy for a client."

So, did Bush and his firm finance the Nazis and enable Germany to rearm? Indirectly, yes. But they had a lot of company. Some of the most distinguished names in American business had investments or subsidiaries in prewar Germany, including Standard Oil and General Motors. Critics have argued for years that without U.S. money, the Nazis could never have waged war. But American business has always invested in totalitarian regimes--witness our dealings with mainland China.

Supposedly he got $1.5 million when UBC was liquidated in 1951. I'll buy the claim that Bush got his share of UBC back--it was an American bank, after all--but the idea that his German holdings increased in value despite being obliterated by Allied bombs is ridiculous.

/Geepers

Fuuu*k you! Morons.

Wrong about Prescott Bush-

He worked for a bank that did business in Germany in the 1930s and 1940s, and he owned a small amount of stock in a bank that did some financing of the Nazis.

By those standards, most people who owned stock in the larger companies of the 1920s and 1930s supported the Nazis. Certainly there is no claim Prescott Bush was as sympathetic to the Nazis as Joseph Kennedy Senior.

BTW, are you claiming Auschwitz was a publically traded company that paid dividends to US shareholders during World War 2?

#226 Owl

Seriously though - what is "Gordon?"

Near as I can figger it is Fwench for "Detour" because that is normally what happens to a thread when one of those nodroG nanobots appear.

Ecclesiastes 3:

8A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

This is a time of war.
It is entirely appropriate that we hate the evil that is islam, and make war upon it and its followers until they no longer threaten us.

JWM

I'm far from a scholer on the subject, but I believe the Catechisms of most western churches allow self defense. Even if the self defense means going to war. There are exceptions: Amish and Quakers and fake religions like Unitarians.

I just thought of a perfect title for that picture:
"Controlled Devolution"
(Apologizes if someone already thought of it. No time to read all posts, yet)

MOONBAT NATION !

/Right there in front of God & everybody ...

They uncovered their feces and destroyed the species.

203 William 9/11/2006 01:15PM PDT
To narrow-minded twits like Gordon, everyone who isn't a moonbat is a "Conservative Christian," so it continues to post biblical quotes.

It doesn't realize that many (most?) posters here are either non-Christian, or non-religious.

When did you take a poll and come up with that?

By the way, I'm a Christian, just so you know.

#237 EC Marm
A better caption would be "Do you still believe in Darwinism's survival of the fittest?"

Is it not obvious, that for all of those who claim the title of oppressed, they seem to exercise to the nines, there freedom of speech.

The government is responsible for 911.

The government blew up levees during Katrina.

The government is in Iraq for oil.

What defies imagination, is if they are so oppressed, why not go to where you are not.

The bottom line in all of this is, it takes courage to face real danger. Todd Beamer faced it. Our troops face it. Our firefighters, EMT's, and police face it.

But real courage takes risk.

They propagate without the threat of a roadside bomb. No snipers. Their family members are not tortured. They preserve their rights, and free speech.

They want courage without risk.

Those guys look awfully pale, guess they don't get out of their parents' basements much.

Gordon,
what has become of you? Have you become more religious, or always were, just had not been showing it here before?
Are you several people, not one person?

O.T. Outstanding editorial by Christoper Hitchens

Here
is the Grand High Exalted Mystic Pooba of this pre-pubescent little "investigate 9/11" gang... He is sending them secret signals from his super secret honeycomb hideout in Seacacus, NJ.

Their Second in command

Their Minister of Propaganda

GOD BLESS AMERICA

NEVER FORGET!

have a good night, LGF
Love most of ya!

moonbatshits

Markos Moulitsas, that avatar of left wing fury, has offered several touching 9/11 reminiscences today:

- “Let's remember, Bush let 9/11 planner get away.”

Hey, dumbass, up until last week, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has been a guest of the CIA ever since he was captured in 2003. Aparrently, rumor has it, waterboarding convinced him to sing like a canary.

/his new permanent residence is now Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

Or, perhaps, you decided that most of the people here are religios christians and it is better to talk to them in their own language?

I bet those kids in those pictures got their position drilled into their heads by such wonderful professors like Ward Churchill.

#209 Cattt

An friend of mine wanted to get a bumper sticker that read "I did not come to bring" and park next to a car with "Peace on Earth" on it.

Meanwhile a gentleman who works in another office of our company buried his only son today at Arlington.

Colin Joseph Wolfe
LCPL, USMC
1986 - 2006
Killed 30 August 2006 in Iraq by a roadside bomb a couple months short of his 20th birthday.

9-11 WAS an inside job.

It happened entirely inside Al Queda.

The turd with the mini-beard in the middle looks very familiar to me. I think he is a hard core comic book fan, who, in addition to having no neck, is a devotee of people like Grant Morrison and Alan Moore, two drug addled writers with lots of talent and not a linear, logical thought in their heads.

Both of them believe they are practioners of Magick (which, to their minds, must be spelled with a K to sound really cool). People who actually believe in Magick are likely to have a tendency toward the paralogical process known as magical thinking, which may explain why they not only believe they have powers, but they believe in dopey conspiracy theories.

nodroG:

If you are still in here reading, for those of us who aren't religious a far more appropriate quote comes to mind today:

"La vengeance est un plat qui se mange froid."

Translation: Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Pierre Ambroise Francois Choderios de LaClos-Les Liasons Dangereuses (1782)

What a bunch of fools.

If you look at the video of the second plane, that impact could have easily brought down that building at impact. That was a wide body plane going over 500 mph and not some whimpy 737. It was nearly width of the building and totally wiped out 4+ floors instantly. I would wager that if that 2nd plane would have hit 30-40 floors further down, the extra weight alone would have caused the building to collapse within a few minutes, if not instantly.

I just heard some Air America loser/listener on the Rush Limbaugh show say that the explosives that brought down those buildings were planted months earlier. Please!

But hey, what do I know, I'm only being logical.

#199 clio

Prescot Bush was a board member at a bank that had dealings with German companies, many of whom were clients long before the Nazis were in power. The truth is that a huge number of companies and banks in the US and elswhere had dealings with Germany up until and technically including the era of Nazi control (these channels were stopped in the late '30s) - this doesn't mean that individuals on boards in such companies had "Nazi ties."

The ADL investigated the issue and found:

"Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, have circulated widely through the Internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated.

"Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer." [Link: www.adl.org...]

#240 Cattt

I think you're missing the point. He's simply saying that nodroG is caracaturing LGF as a collection of bible thumpers. That's not going to work, because the arguments here aren't predicated on any religious doctrine. Religion here is a private matter, unlike under a certain system of theocracy that he and his seem so in love with.

Nice way to spend time instead of making good use of the tuition mom and dad are hocking their house to pay.

It's time to make 9/11 versions of this, that, this and that.

Thanks for the flag in the upper corner!
I just love our flag!

Freak show.

#199 Clio

I think you are referring to the book "The Secret War Against the Jews". Sorry, it has been a decade since I read it, but as I recall, many banking interests dealt with Nazi Germany.

Unfortunately, during the great depression just about the only place on planet earth where a profit was to be made was Nazi Germany. And unless it is prohibited by law, money follows profits.

The sad fact is that many people have a tendency (wishfull thinking) to believe that ultimately, even truly madmen will be rational. Look how even Ahmadinejad will be given a visa to come to the UN.

The biggest argument against the demolition theory is Rick Rescorla.

Christian here too. but in the war on the islamofacists, I'll take whatever allies I can get.

The fact that "gordon" ( at least the one we got today) is apparently, by his own words an unbelieving church-goer is kinda funny. almost.

If I had time I'd do the research..."The History of nodroG", and I'd compile all the posts over the years...I'm sure it would be a horrible read though - and no one would get past chapter 1 probably and I'd end up with a stack of fire-starter. :)

#211 sane in mn

Agreed - I purposely logged onto DK this am to see how solemn the "Screw 'em" kidz could be on Patriot Day.

He never gave an opporunity. The dipsh*t just ripped away at America, Bush and those who support defeating (not negotiating with) our enemies.

Good grief.

You can watch 9/11 free on CBS's Innertube:
[Link: www.cbs.com...]

Okay, "Truthers", I'll bite...controlled demolitions brought down WTC. Now can you prove it wasn't Al-Qaeda who did that as well? Seems all Islamists did was take their action-plan for the 1993 WTC bombing and move it up to the higher floors, yah? Sounds plausible to me. Investigate for us "lemmings", please...

And these people make up about 35% of the population.

This country is fucked. How can you fight a decent war on terror when so many people believe terrorism only comes from Bushitler? If I'm an Islamofacist, I'm absolutely loving the fact so many people think this way.

This is what happens when you cut funding for the mentally ill.

semi OT

I was going through Charles' archives beginning about 9/7/2001.

From The Dark Day onward, he has been on a mission to out the true nature of Islamic Fascists and the willing partners in the MSM.

The shift in focus was instantaneous.

We are privileged to be here, on this site. Being relatively new to LGF I am proud to post here and feel I'm contributing positively to the defeat of our enemies.

It is a true war blog

"Hey guys, after this is back to my mom's basement, for more Kool-Aid, bonging and Cheetos!"

You can watch 9/11 free on CBS's Innertube:
[Link: www.cbs.com...]

Ecclesiastes 3:

8A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

I must say that is more my thing. I'm kind of big on vegeance too.

The "beauty" of conspiracy theory is that it can never be disproven to the satisfaction of the true believers because their beliefs are not based on anything in actual, scientifically definable reality. They possessed of Invincible Ignorance.

245 Paul.. from your link

The second point makes me queasy, but cannot be ducked. "We"--and our allies--simply have to become more ruthless and more experienced.

Odd that he would say that seeing as he was one of the plaintiffs in the ACLU lawsuit against the Governments' warrantless electronic surveillance.

Fact: Fat Teddy Kennedy, liberal hero and Commodore of the Chappaquidick Yacht Club, is the son of a Nazi sympathizer

#269 Me

it's

PIMF

268 RTLM

Welcome. Glad to have you here.

I'm not going to get any answers to my questions about their questions, am I?

Good morning everyone.

#119 zombie 9/11/2006 12:38PM PDT
The very first people the Shari'a Police will behead when the Caliphate takes over will be these psychopaths.

"How DARE you insult Islam by implying that Caliph bin Laden did not plan the attacks! Are you saying that the Jews or the Infidels are more clever than the Caliph? Kneel, and expose your neck!"

He could hold up his sign as the sword swings down and then it would, indeed, be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I'm with you Cattt, Christian as well. I disagree with Gordon. The only reason we still enjoy freedom in the western world is because Bible believing Christians were willing to join others whether believers or not and went overseas and died defending that freedom. They died so that the pacifists who didnt understand could stay at home and hide behind scriptures taken out of context. Sadly, we see this freedom rapidly being eroded.

Kiwi

I like to think of it as a Islamic Resistance Blog, but that's just me and by no means official(duh, I know).

And I agree it is both an honor and a priviledge to post here. And no matter what your faith or lack thereof or whatever - I'm proud to have you Lizards on the side of Liberty.
Tonight at my house, I'll fly my Gadsen Flag. A snake is pretty close to a Lizard, no? :)

The New Yorkers I grew up with would have kicked the sh*t out of these morons. I guess they must have moved away.