All your hump of jihad are belong to us

I see they recruit women and children to help with the protests.

Tell me it is not true that the Pope backed down...

ISLAM: THE ABOMINATION THAT CAUSES DESOLATION

WARNING: the video linked is VERY graphic

I want the muslim world to apologize for September Eleven.

Will the NYT support my rioting ?

/I dig the chicks of the first pic. WOW !

//G*d created such an ugly body and had such bad ideas in His/Her/Their mind about sex... that we need to dress in black head to toe.
Great theology.

"veiled women" = slaves

..I see satanic people...

You should worry! Rosie has looked into it and she says the Christians are just as dangerous as these guys.

Little does she know but if she lived in a fundi Muslim country, she would be stoned to death and I don't mean with a bong!

Perpetual VICTIMS.
"...apologize for HURTING Muslems..."
Their role on this earth is to feel sorry for themselves.

If only there were some way to transform them into thinking, God-fearing humans...

such peaceful people...

heaven forbid they request a calm, respectful dialogue with the Pope, to hear his reasons for the quote he chose to relate regarding Islam.

Hey kids...when you grow up, I'm sure
the Pope will be happy to listen to your concerns.

How can people believe that it is possible to negotiate or "dialogue" with people like this? They terrify me.

I want the apologies for September Eleven NEXT FRIDAY , from each and every imam, mullah or any other idiot during the Friday prayer.

I want the apologies for Beslan.

#9 Far Sparkle

Correction:

Perpetual VICTIMSBarbarians.

I like the way the signs are in English so that we can understand them. Those Muslims are so nice. Not like we are here with are English only red neck laws.

(Do we really have to use this part of our post to explain to our friends that the thing we just typed is a sarcastic comment?)You guys are smart enough to know that right?

I want the muslims' apologies for Mogadishu.
For the Kobar Towers.

I want the muslims' apologies for killing Bob Kennedy.

And Kahane.

VATICAN CITY -
Pope Benedict XVI "sincerely regrets" that Muslims have been offended by some of his words in a recent speech in Germany, the
Vatican said Saturday — stopping short of issuing an apology the Islamic world has demanded.
The new Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, said the pope's position on Islam is unmistakably in line with Vatican teaching that the church regards Muslims with "esteem."

Thus, the pope "sincerely regrets that certain passages of his address could have sounded offensive to the sensitivities of the Muslim faithful and should have been interpreted in a manner that in no way corresponds to his intentions," Bertone said in a statement.

I want the muslims' apologies for the bombs in Madrid and in London.

I want the muslims's apologies for the attack at the Fiumicino airport.

I keep having to repeat myself

"Fight and slay the Unbelievers wherever ye find them. Seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war." Qur'an, Sura 9:5

AIM FOR THE HEAD!

I want the muslims's apologies for the massacre at the Olympic games in Munich.

#5 - Poitiers - Alison said the same thing on Fox earlier today. I agree. No one apologized after 9/11...

I want the muslims' apologies for the genocide in Darfur.

"behead those who say islam is violent"

FREE THE DOG

After much silence on the Pope, the Koskidz join the Islamists...
Is The Pope Infallable?

Catholic dogma would have us believe that the Pope has a hard wired connection to God and gets the one true word. ...

His statement though is inflaming tensions that have already been stressed by the Bush administrations invasion of Iraq and a rise in Muslim fundamentalism.
...
The Pope needs to issue an apology, a clear statement that he used a poor choice of words at a very bad point in history. Not doing so will lead to violence and bloodshed.

No surpirise.

He doesnt want a clash of civilazitions. Bunch of dead Muslims.

I want the muslims apologies for the frigging opium they cultivate in Afghanistan, for the tens of thousands of deaths that the drugs made with it caused and cause.

If every newspaper in America were to start printing the Firday "sermons" from every mosque in our country, we would see a tidal wave of public opinion change . Of course none of the papers would dare have the nads,even hee in the USA.

Let's burn cartoons in effigy. And cook bacon on a stick with the fire.

Lost an s.

See the defaced picture of the Pope that's making the rounds on the al qaeda chat sites.

What, no riots?

#19 - IBMKeyboard - Someone on Fox suggested that the Pope might apologize after he gives his service - I wasn't paying enough attention to it at the time to have caught exactly what was said, as to when, where, etc.

Don't these people have jobs? Or school? No wonder they're all poor and whining, they put their duties aside to bitch about something a dead Byzantine emperor said 600 years ago. In fact they're kind of like hippies when I think about it...

#4 BabbaZee..

That was tough to watch.

Thank you for sharing it, though.

Maybe it should be required viewing for all who think that Israel has no right to defend itself from these monsters.

I want the muslims' apologies for Constantinople.

I want the muslims' apologies for the massacre of Marines in Beirut in the eighties. And for the kidnapping of the CIA chief of station.
And for killing him BY TORTURE.

/Mughniye, we remember you and we will get you.
And we will apply the Geneva Convention to you.
All of it.
In very original ways.

I believe that anyone who can write should send a letter to every paper in their community and call Islam and the idiots (mentally challenged or deragned is too decent and politically correct) who are brainwashed by it - a skin deep and morally repugnent religion. If we can get everyone to take it on publically we can overwhelm their minute and limited brain cells and maybe just get a total burnout of their network.

These people are worse then lemmings. Lemmings have no intelligence and these Islamicnutjobs have even less.

God help us if we get their apologists like Reid and Pelosi running half the government.

#29

Maybe we can get the Aussies to print 'em for us. THEY'VE got the nads for it.

Ali Agca is a muslim.
I want the muslims' apologies for trying to kill the Pope.

At the sight of their pontiff burned in effigy by Muslims, Catholics in Rome, Rio de Janeiro, Boston, and Paris are taking to the streets with molotov cocktails and...

Wait, no. They aren't.

I want the Muslims to apologize for Theo Van Gogh

1) The Pope's apology, and I'm happy for this, is for having offended anyone. That is the liberal Democrat style of apologizing without really apologizing, and I'm glad to see it used for good, not eveil.

2) Catholic doctrine is the Pope is infallible only when on matters of religion, and only when he makes a pronouncement Ex Cathedra, from his throne or chair. The Pope can have opinions on all number of things, that haven't been cleared with God first. The Pope can predict the Houston Texans to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl in 2007, and this could not be used as proof of the fallibility of infallibility.

Sharon has in the past insisted that the Western world was engaging in great folly by differentiating between radical and peaceful Islam. “All of a sudden we see that the greatest interpreters of Islam are politicians in the Western world,” he wrote. “They know better than all the speakers in the mosques, all those who deliver terrible sermons against anything that is either Christian or Jewish. These Western politicians know that there is good Islam and bad Islam. They know even how to differentiate between the two, except that none of them know how to read a word of Arabic.”Islam History Professor Moshe Sharon

Oh, and did anyone see the woman that Bill O. had on last night? She too said that an apology was necessary, that what the Pope said was not the beginning of any constructive dialogue. Bill kept trying to ask her a question about the "moderate" muslims speaking out against the atrocities that have been done in the name of the RoP and she kept evading a real answer - just kept saying, "We have done that," or "we are trying to do that."

As for only having Fox as a reference - well - it's all we get here and I am damn thankful for that! Well, we get Al Jazeerez [sp?], too, but...

Here's a cute one...
Getty Images

Pakistani Muslims shout anti-Papal slogans as they march during a protest in Karachi, 16 September 2006. Pakistan's parliament unanimously condemned Pope Benedict XVI and passed a resolution on 15 September demanding that he withdraw what it called "derogatory" remarks linking Islam with violence.

Their Pope burned out.

Ramzi Youseff was planning to truck bomb John Paul IIs motorcade in the Philippines in 1995, and the Pope then wasn't making too many pronouncements about Islam at the time. They need no excuse.

#43 Ed

I'd like to hear his take on who'll be managing the Chicago Cubs next year. We could use some divine guidance.

/sorry OT--needed a break from the real news

Double Post OT alert

33.333%

Odds Helene hits US.

While Helene is way East of the 50º benchmark for US Air Force Reserves WC-130J Super Hercules 'Hurricane Hunter' aircraft, NOAA is sending the G-IV Gulfstream jet out for high altitude sampling, so the 0Z run of the models tonight may be much improved. Helene is a Cat 1 hurricane now. Of course, Hurricane Lane will hit the mainland of Mexico tonight East of the Southern tip of the Baja Peninsula, possibly as a Cat 4 monster, the worst to hit that part of Mexico in decades. While the low level center will not survive the Sierra Madre, the mid and upper structure, and abundant mid and upper moisture, will move into Texas as a cold front arrives, perhaps to cause the worst flooding in the Lone Star state since Tropical Storm Allison.

The 6Z GFS is encouraging, with a position East of central Florida and North of Hispaniola in a week, heading Northwest in the direction of the Mid-Atlantic

Visible satellite of Hurricane Helebe, and slowly weakening Hurricane Gordon, a possible threat to Spain, Portugal and France

#43 Ed Mahmoud

The Pope can predict the Houston Texans to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl in 2007, and this could not be used as proof of the fallibility of infallibility.

I'm calling my bookie anyways.

logic was never a Muslim strong point.They truly are the Special Ed Room in humankind's School of Theology.

I want the muslims' apologies for the religious apartheid in saudi arabia, where it is forbidden to venerate God, HaShem, The Buddha, Kali, the Dea Fortuna, the Orixas and any and every Divinity.

I don't want any apologies from Muslims.

What good are apologies from pathological liars?

How can apologies bring back their innocent victims?

What I want is to see the West stand proud and fight for its superior culture and values.

Islam should be eradicated, marginalized, or forced to undergo top-to-bottom reform.

His statement though is inflaming tensions that have already been stressed by the Bush administrations invasion of Iraq and a rise in Muslim fundamentalism.

I knew it, I knew it. Karl, Bush and Rumsfield, trying to continue their invasion into the Religion of Peace.
Maybe if we hang Karl, and put Rumsfield in Jail,...and aplogized for 9/11...

Hey Orkin Man?

Meanwhile in wacademia, Leftists remain unapoligetic for their anti-Catholic bigotry;

U play outrages Catholic group
University refuses to block controversial ‘Pope and the Witch’

The play skewers the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church. It stirs the anger of Catholics who view its story of a paranoid, heroin-addled pontiff and his corrupt aides as blasphemy.

And it’s coming soon to the University of Minnesota.

The U’s theater department will stage “The Pope and the Witch” in early March. A national Catholic group this week began urging Minnesota Catholics to “rebel” against performing it at the state’s flagship campus. Internet bloggers questioned whether the university would produce a play like “Pope” that lampooned Islam or Judaism.

On the other hand;

U leaders say the play will go on and that the university must be a place for even unpopular views. As for religious controversy, a spokesman noted that the U this month will play host to a gay Muslim activist speaking on “the lives of queer Muslims.”

You can guess which event will stir real “outrage“.

Angry Pakistani Muslims

"You can't have one without the other"

I want the muslims' apologies for threatening Oriana Fallaci for years.

/And I can foretell you that I want their apologies for desecrating Her tomb.

I want the muslims' apologies for the Bali massacre.

Why, Benedict, why would you apologize for offending these monsters and their sham "religion"?

They have brought it upon themselves by their terrible actions toward non-believers over many, many centuries. So what if the truth hurts them a little? Being beheaded hurts worse, I can assure you.

Time for some apologies from them for a change.

Jesus will probably return first, though.

I want the muslisms' apologies for forty years of palestinian terrorism.

I want the muslims' apologies for three wars against Israel.

O.T.

Bible-thumping, Jesus freaks:

The Internal Revenue Service has ordered a prominent liberal church to turn over documents and e-mails it produced during the 2004 election year that contain references to political candidates.
The IRS is investigating whether All Saints Episcopal Church in Pasadena violated the federal tax code when its former rector, Rev. George F. Regas, delivered an anti-war sermon on the eve of the last presidential election.

Link

OT:

I was looking for the Styx lyrics to "Renegade" and this is what turned up at lyricsfreak.

Osama, be in fear of your life
From the long arm of the law.
Wingman has put an end to your gunnin,
Hes not so far from your home.

The jig is up, the news is out
We finally found you
The renegade who lived in caves
Retrieved for a bounty
Never more to go astray
Thisll be the end today
Of the wanted man

Osama, youve been years on the lam
And had a high price on your head
Bush-man said get him dead or alive
And its for sure hell see you dead.
Fear, osama, we can hear you cryin,
Youre so scared and all alone
Wingman is comin down from the clouds
And you dont have very long

The jig is up, the news is out
They finally found you
The renegade who lived in caves
Retrieved for a bounty
Never more to go astray
The judgell have revenge today
On the wanted man

Osama, be in fear for your life
From the long arm of the law
Wingman has put an end to your running
And youre still so far from my home

The jig is up, the news is out
They finally found you
The renegade who lived in caves
Retrieved for a bounty
Never more to go astray
Thisll be the end today
Of the wanted man

OT but...BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

The Left Eats its Own

There are no black bloggers in Harlem or New York City...

I am just shocked at the glee with which Peter Daou has shown his disrespect for Pam Spaulding, Steve Gilliard, Louis Pagan, Chris Rabb, Earl Dunovant and me when he decided to not invite neither of us, or for that matter, any other black or latino bloggers...

What does it mean though that there are 20 bloggers invited to this lunch and not one is black or latino? What does it mean for this group of bloggers to be patting themselves on the backs for being with Clinton when they are all in Harlem and not one of them is a person of color? What does it mean for these people to be there and have not one of themn raise this issue in their blogs?

35 sushiisusii 9/16/2006 10:25AM PDT
Maybe it should be required viewing for all who think that Israel has no right to defend itself from these monsters.

Yes...it should be!

I no more want apologies from Islamic fascists than I want apologies from 1930s Nazis.

I don't want to see these violent, dishonest and irrational savages apologize; I want to see them defeated.

ht: Talking Kamel at Discarded Lies.

Tigerhawk on the Muslim rage. al-NYT and the MSM basically admits Muslims are like little children who cna't control themselves, when they blame the Pope for violence and killings done by the Muslims, rather than the Muslims themselves.

I used the regular version for one of my routines during a majorette try-out when I was in high school.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

You call me violent?!? I KILL YOU!

(must be said in hysterical, falsetto shriek)

BabbaZee - could only watch a couple of minutes of it. Just too graphic for me. And, yes, it should be shown on the news and stills printed on the front pages of papers - instead of just how awful we are for "panties on heads," and cold rooms with blaring Red Hot Chili Peppers! Someone - probably over at Kos - would decide that it is fake - the video and any stills made from it - doctored photos... Whatever.

#48 mrs. right

The cubs will need a new marketing plan, not divine intervention.

teehee

I want the muslims' apologies for TEN CENTURIES of muslim pirates' attacks on the northern shore of the Mediterranean, for kidnapping tens of thousands of French, Italians, Spaniards (one that you know: MIGUEL DE CERVANTES, who was saved by his family and friends paying a huge ransom).

I want the muslims' apologies for raiding the whole of Africa for slaves, and for selling them worlwide.

#70 BT in SA
Yes..it is very, very difficult to watch.

#2 I_Invented_Al_Gore

I see they recruit women and children to help with the protests.

I reckon Islam's fighting against sexism and agism.

LOL!

Ed of many...

Haven't followed the weather, what happened to hurricane nodrog?

Babba #4

Did you notice this comment?

binsbai (1 week ago)
delightfull to my senses - thank you so much for posting - my deep wishes for more to the israelies of similiar works of grand masterpieces here is the answer to the WHY?!
vieo profile

I love how Pope Benedict says he is deeply upset at the Muslim outrage. I believe he is honest, but I also believe he timed his statement and made it, as a rallying cry against the murderous Islamic militants.

HE said what he said in his liberal homeland of Germany.

HE said it before his trip to Turkey, a nation he opposes entering the Christian (barely) EU.

HE has not apologized. Nor do I believe he will. Nor do I believe he should.

Meanwhile, the Mohammedan faithful firebomb churches and burn effigies of the most holy figure on the planet in response to a quote said 700 years ago. But The Prophet forbid you hit a mosque with a stray artillery shell.

Keep it up, Ummah... you're cruising for a bruising.

#66 Ibrodsky

You are correct.
But I write for the moonbats occasionally reading LGF, not for the Lizards, who need no lesson.

The script in red calls for the Pope's beheading. The rest of the translation:

"Swine and servant of the cross, worships a monkey on a cross, hateful evil man, stoned Satan, may Allah curse him, blood-sucking vampire."

Well, at least they didnt accuse him of looking fat in that robe.

Last year, at a private seminar, the Pope implied that he agreed with conservative Muslim clerics that the teachings of the Koran cannot be modified in any way. More-over, Islam, unlike Christianity, makes no distinction between sacred and secular.

"The Koran is a total religious law," he wrote in 1996, "which regulates the whole of political and social life." Therefore, a devout Muslim living in the West must aspire to live under sharia law. A multi-faith society "is not consistent with Islam's inner nature".

The Whole of political and social life.Everything a Muslim thinks and does is because of the Koran. [Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Hundreds of churches fired upon.
Priests murdered
Hate speech at Friday Prayers
Millions of muslims wage Jihad against the kuffar
SUV after SUV driven by mad muslims plows into Christians
Shootings at Synagogues
Shootings of Jews and Christians
3000 murdered on 9/11
hundreds murdered in Mardid and London

And all we hear about from the pukes at CAIR is fear of a backlash ?

F.U. CAIR

#75 ben

"Gordon" tried to bluster, then fizzled... weather imitates life. Heh.

I don't like the idea of the IRS investigating a church because the pastor expressed anti-Bush views on the eve of the election.

Because, the current philosophy of the Democrat Party is so hostile to Bible based Christianity and its principles, almost any Christian priest or pastor's sermon could be interpreted as an attack on the Democrat party, and I can easily imagine a President HR Clinton (may it never happen) using the IRS as a weapon against the 'Religious Right'.

#76 m
yep...

We are the goon squad and we're coming to town. Beep. Beep.

I want 80 million Muslim apologies for the number of Hindus eliminated in the occupation of India.

#64 Who Watches the Watchmen? 9/16/2006 10:36AM

PDT
OT but...BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

The Left Eats its Own

There are no black bloggers in Harlem or New York City...

I am just shocked at the glee with which Peter Daou has shown his disrespect for Pam Spaulding, Steve Gilliard, Louis Pagan, Chris Rabb, Earl Dunovant and me when he decided to not invite neither of us, or for that matter, any other black or latino bloggers...

If Pagan is in his late 40's then we were at FLW, MO together in '77, he was in the lower bunk. (Poor guy I'd get drunk and puke from the upper).

Muslims need to understand...the pope's comments were in German. The words, "evil", "inhuman", and "sword" were mistranslated from the original German text. So you must know German in order to understand what he truly meant!

No, waitaminute...the pope was actually translating comments from a 14th-century Byzantine emperor. So now, you must know emperor Manuel II Paleologus' language (whatever that was) to know what HE truly meant!

//taking page from Muslims' Arabic-only playbook

I would like these lunatics to FOAD but I don't want to set off a riot in Pisspotistan et al...

I find it passing strange that the Media has failed to pick up on the fact that the actions of these muslims seen to actually reinforce the idea that Islam is a barbaric, violent and oppresive system of beliefs. Wait a minute..no I don't as it has been the position of the Media all along that Muslim anger and violence can only be percipitated by the actions or words of non-Muslims.

By threatening the Pope with beheading as well as firebombing Christian Churches the Muslims show that the Pope did indeed "get it right" and the only thing these Muslims are truely angry about is that he actually had the aydacity to call them out publically.

I have seen signs during these protests telling the Pope to "remember his limits" and believe that this is a loud and clear message that Muslims continue to believe that "Christians" are "ok" as long as they "remember their place".

And what might that place be, you ask? Why the place that Christians have in an Islamic society, that of a second class citizen, a Dhimmi that knows better than to insult his betters.

Itis clearly deliniated in the Koran that a "Dhimmi" that fails to "know his place" and insults a Muslim, forfiets his right to the "protection of Islam" and can be, not to mention should be according to the ditates of Islam, be put to death.

#83

It depends. "Expressing anti-Bush views" in a generic way isn't a legal issue. Saying outright, "therefore you must vote Democratic" or "for candidate x" crosses the line.

Worships a monkey on a cross? I wonder if the 'monkey' is a reference to Jesus having been Jewish.

But I thought Issa (Jesus) was a Muslim prophet, considered right up there with Musa (Moses) as one of the great Muslim prophets, inferior only to Mohammad (BPUH).

Beth [VRWC] IS on to something: [Link: bamapachyderm.com...]

Got it from Ace's site: [Link: ace.mu.nu...]

If you haven't already seen it, it is worth seeing, and it is NOT graphic.

...it is "priceless!"

"The Holy Father thus sincerely regrets that certain passages of his address could have sounded offensive to the sensitivities of the Muslim faithful," Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone said in a statement.

I was afraid he'd do that. When will a major world leader (with lots of security) have the political courage to speak the truth about Islam and NOT apologize for it?

The IRS has revoked a church's charitable designation at least once. A church in Binghamton, N.Y., lost its status after running advertisements against Bill Clinton's candidacy before the 1992 presidential election.

83 Ed

Fortunately Ed, I think we're safe from Hillary being elected or any other Democrat this time around. Maybe in 2012, but generally don't war years favor Republican
presidents? And we have some serious warring coming up...

#88 "cmi"

"PISSPOTISTAN" - ROTFLMAO!

-S-

#4 Babba Zee. The video is very powerful. Thank you.

#91 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades 9/16/2006 10:46AM PDT
Worships a monkey on a cross? I wonder if the 'monkey' is a reference to Jesus having been Jewish.

But I thought Issa (Jesus) was a Muslim prophet, considered right up there with Musa (Moses) as one of the great Muslim prophets, inferior only to Mohammad (BPUH).

Islam does believe Jesus was on the cross...They believe someone else took his place.

"Not doing so will lead to violence and bloodshed."
Do Kozkidz realize that even when the Pope said nothing violence and bloodhsed resulted? That before Bush was elected the plot to bring down the twin towers was already years in the making? Do they realize anything?

78 Poitiers-Lepanto

#66 Ibrodsky

You are correct.
But I write for the moonbats occasionally reading LGF, not for the Lizards, who need no lesson.

Point well taken.

Let me add this:

I want Muslims to apologize for the brutal and immoral behavior of Mohammed. I also want Muslims to apologize for 7 centuries of Muslim imperialism. And I want an apology for 1200 years of Muslim slavery. Finally, I want an apology for contemporary Muslim terrorism and dictators.

When they're done apologizing for all of that, I want them to either reform their violent and repressive ideology or convert to one of many religions or atheism--all of which are morally superior to Islam.

Crap...My #98 Should read ...Islam does NOT believe Jesus was on the cross...They believe someone else took his place.

the most thin skinned people on the planet are of the islamic faith.

the most insecure people on the planet are of the islamic faith.

is it any wonder that such hypersensitive drones have done so little to contribute to society?

after all, in order to make contributions of value, you have to not only fail on occasion, but also deal with your own failure and look for ways to improve yourself.

they seem incapable of these actions. so they simply blame others for their own shortcomings.

#4 Babbazee

Wow. Very tough to watch but it's about time the world sees in stark reality what's happening in Israel. I sent the clip to my college aged sons so they can flip it back to their liberal peers who think Israel is the aggressor.

are they to be blamed for responding to a percieved insult to their Prophet...

...or...

Should we really be blaming ourselves for not responding at all over the decades to their insulting of Jews & Christians?

Stoned Satan

They must have some boys from Afghanistan in that protest march.

Yo. Mo. give me a hit on some dat stoned satan.

From an article on CNN International:

"Of course as we know the meaning of jihad can only be understood by Muslims," Budianto told the crowd. "Only Muslims can understand what jihad is. It is impossible that jihad can be linked with violence, we Muslims have no violent character."

I just busted up laughing reading this.

X

#104 wrathofG-d

are they to be blamed for responding to a percieved insult to their Prophet...

...or...

Should we really be blaming ourselves for not responding at all over the decades to their insulting of Jews & Christians?

Damn,
Now I have guilt.

/Yo Mo. Pass me that stoned satan.

Some of the faithful in the P.A., agrieved at the Pope's suggestion that their faith has some violent tendencies, have "refuted" his statements by fire-bombing some churches in the West Bank and Gaza.

And these irrational, immature people are deserving of nationhood because...?

Ed...

Jesus was a moslem, I know that 'cuz the RoP told me so.

107: ibmkeyboard:

not sure if you were mocking me or not...

Don't be overconfident about Hillary. You know, it isn't a done deal that the Dhimmis won't win the House, which means articles of impeachment will likely be offered.

The Senate will likely be awfully close to 50/50. Now, IIRC, 67 votes to convict in the Senate and remove Bush and Cheney from office, giving us President Pelosi (may God forbid).

Chafee will vote to convict, he voted against Bush in the general election in 2004. Lindsey Graham, Collins, Snowe, Specter, maybe McCain. All Democrats except maybe Lierberman, if he beats Lamont, will vote for conviction. Doesn't quite add up to 67 votes, but maybe the Republicans lose a few more key Senatorial races than expected...

Why aren't the muslims rioting and burning churches in America ?

BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T THE NUMBERS, YET.

/and from that we should be able to draw a strategy...

Anybody got any info on Louis Pagan?

#109 BenZacharia

Not just Jesus--Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses and all the Biblical prophets. In fact, everyone who's doing religion in "the proper way", i.e., in the Islamic way, is ipso facto a Muslim.

Guess that leaves you, me and all the Lizards out.

BB after the game.

GO BUCKS!

Hump of Islam wants an apology, or they will be violent for saying they are violent.

I've always thought there is a huge difference between the way men apologize(if at all) and women. Women say "I'm sorry you're upset." That really is not an apology if they just called you a SOB, is it? They did not retract the SOB part, did they? But men hear the "I'm sorry" part and not the rest. All is forgiven, right?

It's kinda in the meaning of the words. The muslums may hear an apology there, but I know better. Maybe 'cause I know I really am a SOB, I know I would be pushing my luck to expect more than that! : )

"Call me a peacenik--or I'll keel you."

# 60 sushiisusii

Respectfully, you might want to give thought to a couple things before reaching conclusions about the Pope expressing regret that Muslims "have been offended."

1. While we are engaged in this dialog from our comfy safe arm chairs with no blood on the line he is directly responsible for the Catholics that will die as a result of his actions. Bet on it that he knew full well before he made the statement that Catholic churches would be attacked and that Catholics would suffer and die for his standing up against forced conversions and that he is putting himself in the bullseye as well (though I would bet the real weight on his heart is the pain to his flock).

2. He did not apologize for what he said. He expressed regret that muslims took offense at what he said.

3. No one directly responsible for those Fox reporters forceably convereted (not their religious leaders, not their political leaders, not their industry leaders) spoke up against forced conversion. Only the Pope at the risk of his people.

#111 Ed

Why this "pessimism" ?
the internal polls Rush was talking about yesterday give a completely different scenario.

The demonrats are going down this time too.

Their obscenities on the national security issues are heavier than ever.

Oh dear Lord. I hope these aol news pages come through:
Immigration Raid Makes a Ghost Town

The kicker is on page 2:

Other than the Crider plant, there isn't much in Stillmore. Four small stores, a coin laundry and a Baptist church share downtown with City Hall, the fire department and a post office. "We're poor but proud," Mayor Marilyn Slater said, as if that is the town motto.

The 2000 Census put Stillmore's population at 730, but Slater said uncounted immigrants probably made it more than 1,000. Not anymore, with so many homes abandoned and the streets practically empty.

"This reminds me of what I read about Nazi Germany, the Gestapo coming in and yanking people up," Slater said.

Oh yeah, just like the gestapo. Riiight.
But thank goodness, most people get it. This from an aol poll~ (which are usually notoriously left):

What do you think of immigration raid?
I support it 74%
I don't support it 26%
Total Votes: 136,792

107: ibmkeyboard:

not sure if you were mocking me or not...

No Bro. good comment.

Why aren't the muslims rioting and burning churches in America ?

Because they know that a lot of Americans have big cans of whoop-ass ready to dump all over them , if they start.

I say: GO BUY THAT GUN AND LEARN TO USE IT.

It would be a big mistake to apologize for telling the truth. I think this Pope knows better, but the political structure around him? No so sure.

#98 storagemanager

Islam does believe Jesus was on the cross...They believe someone else took his place.

Huh? Would you explain that?

Ed

Doesn't the Gulfstream jet only go out a very limited # of times due to budget?

I have 4 in my head? correct

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Great, not only are the ROPer's committing real life terror, there perpetrating cyber terror as well.

Oh, I hope Republicans keep both Houses. I know someone at National Review (Rameesh Pronuanaurararar (spelling?)) thinks losing the House would allow the Demoncrats to display to America just what nutcases they are for almost two full years before the 2008 election, making a Republican victory more likely, but in 2 years they can also do a lot of damage, with numerous hearings (imagine Dingell and Conyers hauling Bush and Cheney into the House for circus hearings), subpoenas, the afore-mentioned impeachment (which would fail in a Republican Senate, even with all the McCain Seven voting for it), maybe even blocking spending for the Iraq and Afghanistan war.

I do feel that Bush is finally explaining himself better, which helps.

How Catholicism handles sinners

How Islam handles sinners

any questions?

#121 m

Lost on these people is that the illegals are criminals.

Maybe they could offer to pay the illegal's taxes to make themselves feel better about the government actually enforcing our laws?

Too bad we can't sic the mafia after these ass-clowns

The papers are soon going to be full of letters backing the calls for Benedict to apologize.

Fight fire with fire and send your own letter in. With many thanks to Poitiers-Lepanto, here's a list of our own demands for apologies.

-9/11
-Beslan
-Bali
-Mumbai
-Mogadishu
-Kobar Towers
-Robert Kennedy
-Madrid
-London
-Fiumicino airport
-Munich
-Darfur
-Constantinople
-Marine barracks in Beirut
-USS Cole
-Shoe bombers
-Beltway snipers
-Liquid explosives
-suicide bombers
-trying to kill the Pope
-killing Theo Van Gogh
-religious apartheid in saudi Arabia
-threatening Oriana Fallaci for years
-forty years of palestinian terrorism
-three wars against Israel
-TEN CENTURIES of muslim pirates' attacks on the northern shore of the Mediterranean,
-raiding the whole of Africa for slaves, and for selling them worlwide
-80 million Hindus eliminated in the occupation of India
-1,700 people killed since January 2004 in Thailand
-sectarian violence in Iraq

Feel free to add your own.

Hey, Muslims, I apologize for ever thinking we could get along with you.

Now go home.

or is that the pre Katrina budget?

#103 kay1212
Excellent! I hope it makes a dent.

"I'm sorry to hear that my remarks offended you. I'm not sorry about it, I'm just sorry to hear it."

Don't these people have clothes to wash? shoes to clean? floors to mop? crops to plant or harvest? latrine pits to dig?

Do they ever do anything besides bitch and moan about the pervert pedophile mohammed?

Every time someone says something about Islam, these idiots invariably prove the speaker's words true. Islam and Muslims are powerfully backward, primitive, and seemingly incapable of reason. What the hell? When your ideology says it has nothing to do with reason, I guess the disciple can't be expected to be reasonable.

Should these nutroots ever take over, every hint of pre-Islamic civilization will be eradicated. Every hint of modern civilization that will not serve the needs of Islam will also be eradicated. They'll want weapons, and they'll want media for the sake of proselytization. That's it. All the rest will be declared "un-Islamic"; so, goodbye art, music, literature, philosophy, astronomy, history, and everything that does not pertain to the pedophile and his nutty followers.

#125 MandyManners

Muslims do not believe Jesus was crucified. They believe Christians just thought he was. They say he was translated instead of being raised from the dead. Which of course is key.

They also believe Jesus spoke in the cradle saying, "Verily! I am a slave of God, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet; " (19:29-30)

#97 kathyn
Most welcome

Oh and I see they burn crosses now too. I'm sure David Duke and the KKK are watching this thinking: "hey get your own symbols of hate!"

#199 KG

It was an apology in diplo-speak. Splitting hairs over the exact words is useless.

If the Pope backed down because he was afraid Muslims around the world would go on a Catholic-killing spree, then the Muslims have won. "Don't anybody say anything bad about us or we'll kill you."

The fact is, if the Muslims kill and slaughter, that is the Muslims responsibility, not anyone else's.

And the should be held to account for the countless murders they have already committed.

I'd love to see a Pope declare it's time for another Crusade, and see what happens.

There is blood in the future with Islam, and all the appeasing and apologizing in the world isn't going to change that because it is Islam which insists upon it, regardless.

The New Dhimmi Times calls on the Pope to repent, ye sinner.

I don't know the numbers on the Gulf Stream, usually it only flies storms that are strong or potentially strong, and within a few days of affecting the US.

Today's mission is actually described as being part of an African rainfall/Saharan dust study being performed by a multi-nation group.

If there is a budget limit on flights, I'm sure the exceeded it last year, with Katrina, Rita and Wilma all big storms that hit the US.

No words could ever bring more scorn and revulsion toward Islam than the image of an airplane flying into the WTC in the name of Islam.

And after several days of this latest temper tantrum we still haven't seen one thoughtful response from a Muslim or one of her apologists that even attempts to refute what the Pope said.

Their predictable violent reaction to criticism only reinforces the notion that they are incapable of carrying on a serious dialogue with civilization.

They don't want to be accepted, they only want to be feared.

You should worry! Rosie has looked into it and she says the Christians are just as dangerous as these guys.

I've posted this pic before, but it worth posting again:

Rosie relaxing at home...

#125 MandyManners
It seems much of Islam's veiws on J.C. are borrowed from the Gnostic Gospels which have different versions of stuff. One of them (Judas, i think) is that J.C. let someone take his place on the cross.

Correction: The reference should have been #119 KG, not 199.

Sorry

#141 rtheyserius

You make a great point. It is the muslims responsiblity to show they are truly the "religion of peace".

This will never happen.

Off to decimate the lawn.

125 MandyManners 9/16/2006 11:04AM PDT

#98 storagemanager

Islam does believe Jesus was on the cross...They believe someone else took his place.

Huh? Would you explain that

?

In Islam, Jesus (Arabic Isa) is considered one of God's most beloved and important prophets, a bringer of divine scripture, and also the Messiah. Furthermore, the Virgin Birth of Jesus is an article of faith. Muslims, however, do not share the Christian belief in the crucifixion or divinity of Jesus. Islam teaches that Jesus was raised bodily to heaven. Most Muslims believe that Jesus will return to the earth as Messiah in the company of the Mahdi once the earth has become full of sin and injustice. [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] .According to Islam, Jesus never died on the cross, nor ever wanted to die on the cross, nor ever was born to die on the cross. Muslims believe that Jesus was sentenced to death, and people thought that he got executed on the cross. The Holy Quran rejects this idea, and claims that it is a false one. Jesus never died on the cross, nor he ever died for anyone's sins. Let us look at what the Holy Quran (The Muslims Holy Scripture) says about this issue [Link: www.answering-christianity.com...]

Caption for #1

Could someone please point me to the bathroom? I can't see a damn thing!

125 Mandy Manners

I attended one of those "Meet the Muslim" nights at my Church last Winter. The Speaker was a Dearborn Muslim who taught at Fordson High.

And did he ever lose the crowd when I asked him about Jesus' crucifixion and he claimed that Muslims believe Judas was the one actually crucified, and Jesus was taken directly to Heaven before dying.

Talk about a turd in the punchbowl..

#141 rtheyserius

Congratulations on feeling so comfortable handing down your verdict given as I said there is no blood on the line with either of us babbling anything we want.

Personally I have to lay claim to an extrodinary list of sins but thank the Lord He has blessed me with just a tiny bit of humility and so I won't be setting myself up as morally superior to Pope Benedict under these circumstances.

But you go ahead and feel free.

Too bad we can't sic the mafia after these ass-clowns

Aren't most mafia dudes catholic? Let thoes ass wipes kill the Pope and the Mob will act.

I think Islamofacists owe K Rove an apology, but he owes me one. Why is Bush meeting with Abbas? Please explain

I'm picturing sending Joe Pesci's character from Goodfellas after them

The problem is Muslims cannot own up to Islam's bloody errors because they cannot contextualize violence as Judaism and Christianity can and because they are copying Mohammed's personal behavior.

This type of behavior is considered righteous and holy. Any Muslim who claims otherwise is not following Islam. They are creating their own religion.

Religion of Peace Perpetual Outrage

Anyone want to start a Fatwa Watch for the Pope?

"I'm sorry you were offended. I'm not sorry about what I said, I'm just sorry you were offended".

Hope that clears things up.

Missouriboy

"Because they know that a lot of Americans have big cans of whoop-ass ready to dump all over them , if they start.

I say: GO BUY THAT GUN AND LEARN TO USE IT."

But remember, the Muslim strategy is first to be a victim, then to demand protection, which then merges into privileges. The first of these is to be free of critism. But the next is to demand that non-muslims not be allowed to strike back. In Australia, Muslims now have territories wherein they are allowed to rape, pilage, and harrass non-muslims. The police protect them from the rath of the normals.

#121 m

That article raised my blood pressure considerably. I sent the following letter to the local paper (San Jose Mercury) that ran the story...

Editor:

I can't believe the MSM is still peddling its gutter-trawling sob stories about the repatriation of illegal aliens. Is newspaper readership not yet low enough?

"Messy aftermath of immigration raids outrages small Ga. town" was standard issue for the genre, using manipulative pro-illegal language and a one-sided viewpoint. An official was quoted, comparing the lawful deportation of illegal aliens with jackbooted Nazi round-ups.

There was no balance on the side of law and American workers who benefit when illegal alien scabs are kept out of the workplace.

The only nod to reality was the mention that the chicken plant increased its wages by $1 per hour to attract citizen workers after the scabs were ousted.

Oh. Funny how that supply and demand thing works.

THE SONS OF ALLAH

I think many of you are under the mistaken impression that Muslims see themselves as victims or take offense too easily.

Sure, that's what it looks like on the surface.

But if you read the Koran, learn about the life of Mohammed and history of Islam, and study Islamic philosophy, you will find the real problem is, in fact, suggested by the Pope. Islam rejects the idea that The Creator is bound by rationality.

Ideologies that reject rationality are predictably and necessarily violent and dictatorial.

Or as I like to say about the Palestinians, there is no problem they won't try to solve through violence.

There is no reasoning with people who reject rationality. And forget about showing them that they complain about offenses they themselves commit.

Being irrational is not having to be consistent. It's analogous to "What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine." They are right when they have reason on their side, and they are just as right when they don't have reason on their side.

What matters to Muslims is not who is in principle right, but who gets their way.

There is no lie or twisted argument or hypocritical attitude that they won't embrace if/when it suits them.

So don't be surprised.

It's too bad we misunderstand them so...! (gag me)

Blaming the Pope for this violence is like blaming a women who was raped for dressing in the wrong clothes or blaming a person who was sucker-punched in a bar for making eye-contact with the drunk.

#138 superninja

That's the biggest pile of steaming dog shit I've heard in a long time. Talk about co-opting a religion in order to pervert it! That's whacked. Babies talking in the crib? That's irrational.

I need some brain bleach.

Oh, and thank you for the explanation, superninja.

#161 Racer X
How about...
You were offended? Kewl!
Truth hurts don't it?

Offended because they don't have an argument back.

#26 Kilgore Trout

Their ignorance is astonishing.

164 ibrodsky

Great post.

m (#152),

Could someone please point me to the bathroom? I can't see a damn thing!

And remember:

Essential Du'as / Supplications

When entering the toilet on your right foot, recite:

Allahumma in-nee a'oothu bika minal khubu-thee wal khabaa ith.

When leaving the toilet on your left foot, recite:

Ghuf-raa naka

followed by

Alhamdulillah-hilla-thee ath-haba ann-nil athaa wa 'afaani.

#153 mich-again

I would've stood straight up in the church and denounced that load of crap. The little ol' blue-haired ladies at my church might've pelted him with song books.

Thank you for telling me that. It's bizarre.

Who was the idiot that started the lie:

islam is a religion. And why , after all these years is the world still believing this lie.? This boil has festered long enough.

Duane 9/16/2006 11:20AM PDT
I'm picturing sending Joe Pesci's character from Goodfellas after them

::Group of ROPers approaches Pesci::

"You're a very funny little infidel!"

"Funny?"

"Uh yeah funny"

"Funny? Funny how? Like a clown? Like I'm here to amuse you jihadis?"

"No no no, I just mean you know..."

"No I DON'T KNOW, tell me how I'm funny!"

:::next scene::

Pesci seen walking away from pile of dead Jihadis carrying blood-stained butcher knife and and .45 with a silencer.

Now that's the "Goodfellas" I want to see!

Alright lizards, I have to get over to St. Paul to see the infidel Eric Clapton (who had the audacity to agree with Enoch Powell). All will be forgiven though if he plays "Badge".
Have a good afternoon all.

#132 Stringart

Thanks to you, and your post is way better organized than my rants a-la-carte.

I save it and wait for a troll who needs food for thought.

Islam = the CULT of society's dregs.

OIC Responds to Pope

By Suleyman Kurt, Mukremin Albayrak, Ankara
Saturday, September 16, 2006

The Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC) convened to discuss whether there was a change in the function of the Papacy.

OIC Secretary-General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu said they would give a legal response to the pope.

Pope Benedict XVI’s recent remarks linking Islam to violence have offended Muslims all over the world, prompting fierce anger in Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt, India and Indonesia.

The Pakistani Parliament condemned the Pope’s comments, and the Muslim Brothers called on the governments of Islamic countries to break relations with the Vatican if the Pope does not apologize..

Chairman of the World Union of Muslim Clerics Yusuf Kardawi stated the pope made “an unforgivable mistake” against Muslims and demanded an apology.

The Islamic Fiqh Academy (IFA), a subsidiary organ of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) has begun an inquiry into the pope’s statements in order to prepare a legal response.

Speaking to Zaman Daily, Ihsanoglu stated that the pope’s remarks had damaged dialogue efforts between Christianity and Islam.

“There would have been no rationalism in Christianity without Ibn Sina and Ibn Rushd,” Ihsanoglu said.

PIMF

Minus one "and"

The Judas Goat: The “Substitution” Theory of the Crucifixion

Apocryphal scriptures bear witness to the adherence of this belief. In the Second Treatise of the Great Seth, one of the Nag Hammadi scrolls, it states:

“I did not succumb to them as they had planned… And I did not die in reality but in appearance, lest I be put to shame by them …For my death which they think happened [happened] to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death … It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was another upon whom they placed the crown of thorns … And I was laughing at their ignorance.”

The Koran states something similar:

“…they did not slay him, neither crucified him, only a likeness of that was shown to them.”

#163 brenda

BRAVO!

If the Pope has made an unforgivable mistake, why then demand an apology?

#164 ibrodsky

You are absolutely right! Thanks for the great post.

To me that is one of the biggest obstacles we face right now. We have a large % of our population that do not believe in reason and the false idea that everyone has their own truth.

You've read Lee Harris's article Al-Qaida's Fantasy Ideaology?

[Link: www.policyreview.org...]

#179 mama winger

Chairman of the World Union of Muslim Clerics Yusuf Kardawi stated the pope made “an unforgivable mistake” against Muslims and demanded an apology.

In that case an apology isn't needed.

#154 KG

I have no idea what you're talking about.

It looks like you're descending into ad hominems and mind-reading rather than discussing the subject at hand.

But you are certainly welcome to maintain, as you like, whatever "humility" you have been "blessed" with regarding the Pope's apology.

MandyManners (#167),

Check out Mohammed's Believe it or Else.

Islam is a hoot.

as my son ran for the soccer ball another child(8yrs old) said "if you touch that god will kill you"

any guesses of the kids background?

Chairman of the World Union of Muslim Clerics Yusuf Kardawi stated the pope made “an unforgivable mistake” against Muslims and demanded an apology.

Well if it's "unforgiveable" then what's the point of an apology?!

Do these people have more than 2 brains cells in their head that aren't stained with detritus of Islam?

I hope the Pope does not apologize.

It's not the Pope's fault that Islam encourages wife-beating, slavery, and honor killing.

It's not the Pope's fault that Islam breeds jihad-genocide, a.k.a. terrorism.

It's not the Pope's fault that Muslims respond to any thing they don't like by going on rampages killing and torching.

It's not the Pope's fault that Mohammed was a profoundly immoral person.

It's not the Pope's fault that Islam is bent on conquest and subjugation.

It's not the Pope's fault that Muslims are racist, sexist, and violently intolerant of other philosophies, religions, and lifestyles.

#181 Killgore

I think scholars agree (not Islamic scholars of course) that the Quran was influence by the Gnostics.

173 Mandy Manners

I would've stood straight up in the church and denounced that load of crap.

Me, I'm more the stir-the-pot kind. A lizard hiding in the tall grass so to speak.

See the defaced picture of the Pope that's making the rounds on the al qaeda chat sites.

Took a look at that picture. It looks like something many of us would have done in grade school to the principal's picture or somebody we didn't like. Sad, it provides a measure of the mental state and maturity of these people. Except, unlike us, they don't realize that it is wrong to really kill people, not just make fun of them.

#146 Killgore Trout

My mind is boggled.

When will the average Christian American be told about this? Maybe then we'll want to tell Pres. Bush to STFU when he speaks about a common heritage with Islam, the RoP.

#189 CognitiveDissonance 9/16/2006 11:33AM PDT

Chairman of the World Union of Muslim Clerics Yusuf Kardawi stated the pope made “an unforgivable mistake” against Muslims and demanded an apology.

Well if it's "unforgiveable" then what's the point of an apology?!

Muslims like to see infidels grovel. It helps to prepare them for their future subjugation.

What does the Pope have to appologize for?

He did nothing wrong! He was quoting someone centuries ago & didn't even say he agreed!

Futhermore, the response by Muslims prooves the original speaker CORRECT.

#179 Mama Winger

“There would have been no rationalism in Christianity without Ibn Sina and Ibn Rushd,” Ihsanoglu said.

That is plain and simple BS.

Centuries of Christian Thought precede the meeting with the muslim "thinkers" who did only one thing, as usual, REport what they had got from the Greek philosophy.
(Exactly as it happened with the Indian DIGITS).

And not only that: Christianity has its roots in the Jewish Religion, which was already thousands of years old when JC came.
And ALL the Religious Thought of the Jewish Thinkers is reflected, in a way or another, in the original Christian Religion.

The world needed islam like it needs mosquitos.

I think we at some point need to stop being amazed or surprised at this stuff, accept it as the present reality, and fight it tooth and nail at every turn.

hear that Mandy, very pissed at Bush right now

he can't utter appeasement without looking in the mirror

islam is getting very near to the bottom, I will ease their pain and do it for them:

POPE, CONVERT OR DIE !

"Believe in a loving god, Infidel, or DIE!"

Yeah, I think that old phrase still typifies Muslims correctly.

#197 P-L

Wait. Are you saying that Islam did not usher in the Age or Reason?

/

Age OF Reason - sorry

#151 storagemanager

Everything about Islam is a perversion. Ugh.

Thanks for the links. They could come in handy.

MandyManners (#194),

When will the average Christian American be told about this?

Why does someone have to tell them? Why shouldn't it be incumbent on the average Christian to find out the truth of islam?

#195 ibrodsky

You are right that their worldview is driven by the confusing concept that no matter what they do, the infidel world appears to be superior to the Muslim world. And the rational not being a high calling in Islam, everything is labelled as sin in the West, while all of Mohammeds sins are called "good" and elevated to holiness.

Their version of utopia is Sharia law. Yet obviously there are Muslims who cannot conform to this and move to the West to benefit from the fruits of Western philosophy and religion.

"Fight and slay the Unbelievers wherever ye find them. Seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war." Qur'an, Sura 9:5

-babbazee

ibrodsky 9/16/2006 11:36AM PDT

Muslims like to see infidels grovel. It helps to prepare them for their future subjugation.

Makes sense. I guess when they have no intellectual, philosophical, or moral leg to stand on they just revert to their usual poor-me victimology crapola.

#194 MandyManners

I certainly agree with you about Bush and the ROP comments. He shouldn't perpetuate a lie.

Vote: cnn.com asks if the pope should apologize. So far 64% say no.

Well you know, if you called the Pope a terrorist over and over, eventually he would become extremely violent and might even blow himself up. After all, like all of us he was born a Muslim and he just hasn't realized it yet.

#202 Mama Winger

:-)

Well, islam DID usher the progress of the WEST: BUT NEGATIVELY, by opposition.

HOW ?

By conquering Costantinople.
The GREAT Scholars living there ran , scared to death by the nearing barbarians.

AND WHERE DID THEY GO, WHERE DID THEY TAKE THEIR PRECIOUS BOOKS AND ANCIENT CODES ?

ORIANA, you know where they went !

They went to FLORENCE and what we call RENAISSANCE was created by the incredibly great impact of the new (old classical Greek philosophy)ideas mixing with the wit and the richness of the FREE Italian cities.

NEGATIVE factor in the progress of humanity, that's the definition of islam.

174 missouri boy

We discussed that very point in a thread a while back. The question posed was: Imagine if you showed up at an IRS Office looking to have your newly created religion granted tax-exempt status. You offered a book laced with brutal violence as your scripture and a biography of your Prophet whose life mirrored Mohammeds'.

What do you think your chances would be of getting a tax-exemption from the IRS?

I'm thinking not to good. You'd probably get laughed out of the office.

#187 Geepers

I will. Thank you for the link.

Jack Nicholson "You can't handle the truth!"

#213 mich-again

Did you factor in "down and brown"? That has a lot of currency in Western government.

#213 mich-again

Please, let's not bring Scientology into this...

OT

"The United States first destroyed our great country, the Soviet Union, then they destroyed our economy and now they are sending this horrible young woman to destroy our souls." Russian Orthodox Catholic Tatyana Myasoyedova, interviewed at a rally of about 100 demonstrators organized by the Orthodox Standard Bearers' Union, a group combining religion and nationalism. The Curch made a plea to Madonna to drop symbols of the crucifixion from her stage show. (She didn't.)

Source: [Link: www.thestandard.com.hk...]

Attention, Ms. Myasoyedova: I, as a US citizen, am NOT responsible for Madonna. (Or any of that other stuff, but particularly not for Madonna.)

Picture of a Madonna protest in Moscow.

204 MandyManners 9/16/2006 11:41AM PDT
#151 storagemanager

Everything about Islam is a perversion. Ugh.

Thanks for the links. They could come in handy

.
Your welcome-anytime

If they're breathing, they're seething.

#210 HazelEyes

Handy dandy link. Tell 'em lizards.

#119 KG

Thank you for the view from another perspective..
Respectfully, I do feel that the Pope apologized (diplomatically) for his remarks, and I'm a little disappointed that he did. So many are afraid to state the truth about Islam because of potentially explosive repercussions, and the Pope has chosen to speak out. If he doesn't want to expose himself, or his followers, to danger at the hands of angry militant Muslims, then maybe he should just go the appeasement route that most other world leaders seem to embrace where radical Islam is concerned.

And as we've seen with Hitler and Nazi Germany, that only works for a limited time..then there's hell to pay anyways.

BTW..I don't remember saying anything about the FOX reporters in my post.

Again, thanks for your input.

susii

192 mich-again 9/16/2006 11:35AM PDT

173 Mandy Manners

I would've stood straight up in the church and denounced that load of crap.

Me, I'm more the stir-the-pot kind. A lizard hiding in the tall grass so to speak.

Not I. Decorum be damned. I would not sit still and silent while lies about Christ are told. I cannot recall the verse but, if I don't stand up for Him, He won't stand up for me on Judgment Day.

The parallels between whats happening now and the lord of the rings is scary.

#208 Cognitive

They don't view themselves as victims. They view themselves as the rightful owner of all the infidel's worldly goods and lands.

Because they're Muslims, and Muslims are superior to infidels. Particularly Arab Muslims.

The victimology is just taqiya. They are well aware of what they are doing and the Left is their Trojan Horse.

#164 ibrodsky

I had similar thoughts, though not as well developed as yours, as I read the Pope's speech.

But as a rational westerner, I never considered the idea that God would violate the basic operating system of the universe.

The act of Creation, after all, was to bring order out of chaos. Muslims live in chaos, as you say.

209 superninja 9/16/2006 11:43AM PDT
#194 MandyManners

I certainly agree with you about Bush and the ROP comments. He shouldn't perpetuate a lie

Listen to sean Hannity in the coming days...He was invited to the White House and ask to lay off Islam...so yesterday he told a caller that Mohammad and Islam have nothing to do with the war...I lost all respect for him.

#205 Geepers

MandyManners (#194),

When will the average Christian American be told about this?

Why does someone have to tell them? Why shouldn't it be incumbent on the average Christian to find out the truth of islam?

They don't know to even look! They're busy working, raising their families and doing things other than seething and feeling humiliated.

#218 Cattt

People should have learned by now that giving Madonna attention is actually rewarding her.

I agree Demoncrats=Trojan Horse

FROM THE JERUSALEM POST

BOZO OF THE YEAR:

Afghanistan's parliament and foreign ministry on Saturday demanded that Pope Benedict XVI apologize to the world's Muslims for remarks linking Islam and violence.

"The comments showed an inadequate understanding of Islam and (warrant) ... an apology to Muslims, the followers of a religion of peace and reconciliation," Afghanistan's foreign ministry said in a statement.

The country's fledgling lower house of the parliament at the start of its Saturday session also "strongly condemned" the pontiff's remarks made to university professors in Germany earlier this week.

Thanks #221. I didn't know how to put up the link.

#227 storagemanager

If that is true, then it would indicate he is merely a political animal and does not really stand for anything other than Republican power.

He wouldn't be the first guy!

But that's the first I have heard of this. Do you have a link?

The pope was right. Have a backbone Benedict.

Just what has mohamed brought to the world except evil?

He was a warlord who suceeded by impersonating a prophet by borrowing aspects from the major religions of his time. Any objective reading of his life history or the Quran will reveal the homicidal maniac that founded that religion.

Why is Bush meeeting with Abbas ...anyone?

Road Map?

#209 superninja

#194 MandyManners

I certainly agree with you about Bush and the ROP comments. He shouldn't perpetuate a lie.

It's not the president's place to talk about religion except maybe for one-liners to appease the oil ticks.

223 Mandy Manners

if I don't stand up for Him, He won't stand up for me on Judgment Day.

Agreed. But there are different ways to stand-up. All I'm saying is that in the environment of a Church Hall "Meet the Muslim" night, I found it more effective to politely ask pointed questions that exposed the rift between Islam and Christianity. Just standing up and shouting him down would not have been nearly as effective, in fact it would have worked to his advantage.

So in the midst of all this mayhem and the brutal threats of violence against the Pope, my fellow Catholics and I will be filling the pews tonight and tomorrow. And unlike our muslim "friends," who leave their Friday services seething and raging, we will continue to pray for peace and understanding (as we always do), break Bread, and go out to quietly try to change the world.

On days like this, I think we're all idiots.

/sigh

i want muslms to appolize for..

using sword for forceful conversion

various holocausr including indian holocaust

and at last but not least... for whole terrorist around the globe and in indian subcontinent

#232 HazelEyes

You just copy the link to your clipboard, and write out whatever you want. Then highlight the words you want to be linked. Click link (^) and paste it into the dialogue box that pops up. Click okay and yer done!

CNN ~ needs to be linked again because the total is going up, but the percentages are staying the same :(

On the left, halfway down the page.

#227 storagemanager

209 superninja 9/16/2006 11:43AM PDT
#194 MandyManners

I certainly agree with you about Bush and the ROP comments. He shouldn't perpetuate a lie

Listen to sean Hannity in the coming days...He was invited to the White House and ask to lay off Islam...so yesterday he told a caller that Mohammad and Islam have nothing to do with the war...I lost all respect for him.

Are you shitting me?

I think I've discovered a way to end all the fighting. Thank you, Boy!

"The War Song"
Culture Club

War war is stupid
And people are stupid
And love means nothing
In some strange quarters

War war is stupid
And people are stupid
And I heard them banging
On hearts and fingers

People fill the world
With narrow confidence
Like a child at birth
A man with no defense
Whats mine is my own
I wont give it to you
No matter what you say
No matter what you do

Now were fighting
In our hearts
Fighting in the street
Wont somebody help me?

Man is far behind
In the search for something new
Like a philistine
Were burning witches too
This world of fate
Must be designed for you
It matters what you say
It matters what you do

Now were fighting
In our hearts
Fighting in the street
Wont somebody help me?

After the bird has flown
He walked ten thousand
Miles back home

You cant do that to me, no
You cant do that to me
You cant do that to me, no
You cant do that to me

Now were fighting
In our hearts
Fighting in the street
Wont somebody help me?

Too late. Vatican is already backing down -

and here's the ignorant part...

by backing down, you don't get things any better - you SIMPLY SHOW HOW WEAK YOU ARE IN THE FACE OF ALMIGHTY *spit! ISLAM.

SOONER OR LATER WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GROW A SET OR JUST SAY TO HELL WITH IT.

My greatest fear at this point, is that we will not have the guts or the speed to respond. This is going to get out of hand very quickly, and if there is not a response that the islamofacists understand, we will continue to slide down an already slippery slope.

LGF...we may have to wake the country ourselves...

how...i don't know...

everyone seems satisfied with chatting among ourselves...

but there must be more we can do to rally the troops, spread the word and the truth, and get people ready for the turmoil ahead...

or do we simply keep preaching to the choir.

Charles, Zombie and the rest of you who are actively engaged in this fight I commend you for your actions. Let us know what we can do. I'm sure I'm not the only one wanting to do something beyond complain and whine and get mad on my keyboard...

let's roll. please...

politics time Mandy

Why is Bush meeeting with Abbas ...anyone?

Road Map?

#237 mich-again

Oh. I like your way. That's what I would've done. Of course, if my foot just happened to be in the aisle as he walked up it toward the doors and he just happened to trip on it and fall on his fascist face,...

*eg*

Owl (#243),

Too late. Vatican is already backing down -

Linky?

#237 mich-again

Yeah, I'm with you on that one. The problem is, Islam doesn't like questioning. And because of taqiya and kitman, you always have to question the sincerity of what they are saying.

Any questions you have about Mohammed, even if intended simply to get at the truth, are considered insulting to their prophet.

Of course, toward the end--after I'd asked the pointed and revealing questions--I'd have stood up and called him a liar and a representative of the Anti Christ.

What can I say? I like throwing bombs.

P-L

The world needed islam like it needs mosquitos.

If we could vote, I would take mosquitos, hands down.

Question:

Can anyone just walk into a Mosque for their services? Or do you need to be "approved"?

I'm just curious. It might be a way for us to get to know the religion better. I know anyone would be welcome in MY church.

Maimonides and Aquinas are two of my heroes.

They can be difficult and tedious to read. Maimonides sometimes comes across the wrong way due to his manner of writing. Aquinas inspired ridicule of those who debate "the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin."

It's hard to overstate how much the civilized world owes these two brilliant and radical thinkers. Living at a time when religion ruled every aspect of life, Maimonides suggested that religion must not contradict reason and facts discovered through human inquiry.

Aquinas taught us how to resolve disagreements. He calmly and patiently articulated the point being debated, and then presented each of the competing arguments as if it were his own. He showed how arguments could be sorted out through discussion, analysis, and honest/fair evaluation.

But in the opposite corner--no doubt wearing a ski mask and toting an AK-47--was the Muslim philosopher, al-Ghazali. This man ridiculed those who revered rationalism. He basically said "Allah doesn't need no stink'in rationality. He can do whatever he wants."

And that is what the Sons of Allah believe.

Know this.

226 Brenda

A home-spun corrolary before the 3:30 kick-off..

Entropy increases over time. But in an Islamic environment entropy accelerates.

#233 superninja 9/16/2006 11:55AM PDT
#227 storagemanager

If that is true, then it would indicate he is merely a political animal and does not really stand for anything other than Republican power.

He wouldn't be the first guy!

But that's the first I have heard of this. Do you have a link

Sean Hannity said he had been to the White House yesterday on his show but wouldnt say why...But Michael Medved did on his show...He informed everyone that he met with the POTUS today for 90 minutes...

He was not alone, Sean Hannity, he Michael Medved, Laura Ingraham, Mike Gallagher, Tony Snow and a couple of others were there with him...

He said that President Bush really does think (paraphrasing here) that islam has been hijacked/perverted, etc...Because this war really cannot be religion v. religion because everyone will be a loser...
I dont listen to Medved a friend told me...all I know is when Sean told the caller the Mohammad and Islam had nothing to with war...My wife and I just looked at each other with shock...not like him at all.

#242 garycooper

Didn't Boy George dress up kind of like an Orthodox Jew when he first became popular?

That may be a problem for our friends in the RoP.

# 186 rtheyserius

Your claim:

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Ok, lets go over the interchange.

You said:

It was an apology in diplo-speak. Splitting hairs over the exact words is useless.

If the Pope backed down because he was afraid Muslims around the world would go on a Catholic-killing spree, then the Muslims have won. . .

So in response I said:

Congratulations on feeling so comfortable handing down your verdict given as I said there is no blood on the line with either of us babbling anything we want.

Personally I have to lay claim to an extrodinary list of sins but thank the Lord He has blessed me with just a tiny bit of humility and so I won't be setting myself up as morally superior to Pope Benedict under these circumstances.

But you go ahead and feel free.

Clearer now?

You came to the verdict that the Pope didn't perform according to your standards.

I congratulated you on your comfort with that but explained that I did not share said comfort in judging -- primarily because as a sinner with no blood on the line I was certainly not going to set myself up as morally superior to the Pope.

Your accusation:

It looks like you're descending into ad hominems and mind-reading . . .

I'm interested in your definition of ad hominem. Please feel free to provide it and to provide the example from my post where I engaged in it if you feel compelled to pursue that claim.

As far as mind reading, you directed your verdict on the Pope to me explicitly. I'm not seeing the mind reading either.

ok,chatting to ourselves - not everyone is satisfied with that I'm sure...but most of us...including me to this point...have been happy to come here and make fun of islam, enjoy each others' company, and post about the downfall of societies around the globe. . . and that's all fine and well...

but isn't there something more we can do? I don't mean anything nuts...I mean can we not find a better, faster, bigger way to spread the truth than me linking this blog to 20 friends...and of course, none of them probably even bother to read it - they're all ASLEEP. They just want to go about their lives eating and drinking, marrying and going to little leagure games...( anyone see a Biblical refrence here?)...doing what they've always done without thinking about what's going on - and honestly, they are probably better off than I am. I'm possessed by the urge to do whatever I can to STOP islam in it's tracks - within reason and within the law of course.

If they hit a US city again though...i don't think Americans will need any prompting...and I think the muslim world will be in for an eye-opening @$$ kickin'.
At least I would hope so.

I think i'd be happier asleep - but whether a blessing or a curse, i cannot sleep. i'm wide awake...

and it's a nightmare.

238 Mrs. Right

Agreed and well said.

LINK -
[Link: www.96rock.com...]

backing down...

"Bertone, walking into the crisis only a day after taking over as "deputy pope," said the 79-year-old Pope confirmed "his respect and esteem for those who profess the Islamic faith" and hoped his words would be understood "in their true sense."

The academic speech was meant as a "a clear and radical rejection of religiously motivated violence, wherever it comes from," said the statement, which came as criticism of the leader of the world's 1.1 billion Roman Catholics swelled.
"

Riiight.

Visit a mosque. Discuss how great America is!
Football
Baseball
Basketball
Rock and Roll
The space station
The internet
A good movie
Technology
Transportation

And many more nice things made possible by Americans!

There is a reason why there is a line to come to America, and a line to get out of most other countries.

We need to constantly remind muslims how wonderful Americans are.

Or just kill them.

#242 garycooper

Didn't Boy George dress up kind of like an Orthodox Jew when he first became popular?

That may prove to be a problem for our RoP friends.

http://www.nndb.com/people/028/000025950/george1.j pg

(hope this works.. for some reason I cannot link today without problems! If it comes out in 2 parts, click on the 2nd link!)

#252 ibrodsky

These people are made in God's image. It is sad to see the psychological split in the Muslim world caused by Islam.

KG (#256),

But other than all that.

257 Owl 9/16/2006 12:09PM PDT ...I tell Family,friends..people I met about the Jihad..I tell them to go to LGF and Jihad Watch...Books to read...News sources they can check...best way I know of to spread the word.

We should recognize what a tough spot Benedict is in. He really doesn't want to see hundreds of people die over his remarks -- which could easily happen.

Remember that well over 100 were killed by Muslim zealots in the various cartoon riots over a few scribbles.

I would like to know when this is going to be over? When is the Pope going to finally pass a Crusade? The Catholics are much more unified and powerfulthen the scattered "aliens" of islam! I am tired of the "outrages" the religion of death needs to DIE! If aliens landed from outerspace tomorrow I would have more in common with them then these creatures of islam! Don't walk around daisies and say there are moderates there are two kinds here Fascists and Sheep! Nothing more nothing less!

Sorry I haven't posted in awahile I am currently on the frontlines in Iraq and it is sometimes difficult to see wahts going on in the LGF world.

Part of me believes the pope new exactly what the muslim response to his comments would be.

storemanager, I know, i know. I enjoy your posts btw. I think there is a spectrum of people here - some just see it as news, some see it as a problem, some see it as an " issue" some see it as no problem at all( nodroG), some see it as a great dilemma, and some see it as the end of civilization if we don't do something and fast. I may be wrong but I believe you and I fall in to that last catagory.

I was thinking a LGF rally. A billboard or twenty. A television commercial. A blimp? A visit to the UN to ask some questions( media in tow mind you - ha, like they'd cover that!)...you know...something bigger...

maybe a movie...but what theatre woudl show it...

i don't know...

if i was able i'd enlist.:(

#260 Racer X

There is a reason why there is a line to come to America, and a line to get out of most other countries.

We need to constantly remind muslims how wonderful Americans are.

Or just kill them.

Good post...let's just not get carried away!