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CNN Whitewashes Radical Islam (Yes, Again)

Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 4:52:22 pm PDT

Representative Peter King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, recently wrote in a letter to constituents that 85% of the mosques in America are controlled by extremists.

This, of course, has led to an eruption of seething and whining from the Council on American Islamic Relations, and CNN has sprung to the defense of Muslims with a piece of whitewashing that has to be seen to be believed, pooh-poohing the idea that mosques are controlled by radicals and painting King as an “Islamophobic” kook.

Note the woman who says she still doesn’t believe Muslims carried out the 9/11 attacks. CNN says they could only find one woman who thought this way. Uh huh. I’m sure they looked really hard.

Also note that CNN, once again, does not provide a single word of context about the Council on American Islamic Relations and their many ties to extremists and convicted terrorists.

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And for some more context to this piece, previously at LGF: Saudis Have Radicalized 80% of US Mosques.

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1 friarstale  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 2:55:12pm

the radicals are the audacious ones, who lie to your face and say "Peace"

and that is in the Koran

get with it CNN

2 monkeytango  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 2:56:46pm

Only 85%?

3 spanishpete  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 2:57:31pm

for the life of me i cant understand why the news people give Islam a free ride.
they will be the first to suffer.

4 Thanos  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 2:58:37pm

Caliphate News Network?

5 ratherdashing  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 2:58:54pm

Observations on Arabs

I just read it. Eye-opening. I'm off to watch the Buckeyes.

6 kabu  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 2:59:53pm

i'ts cnn not the true watch.
they are afreid to anger the islamic world, so they distort every news! pathetic!

7 mama winger  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:00:09pm

I'm tired of this shit. I'm not going to play around with these people anymore.

Suicide / Homicide Bombing Planned for Green Zone in Iraq.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

39 days and counting at my house. If they touch a hair on my boy's head, I will kill them myself.

8 spanishpete  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:00:25pm

why do they love Muslims so much.
is it because most of their staff are Muslims.
i don't get it. it cant be because they are liberals

9 David Simon  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:00:35pm
85% of the mosques in America are controlled by extremists

Why that's ridiculous. As ridiculous as the Taliban setting up shop in Waziristan:

IN a new embarrassment for peripatetic Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, Taliban officials have opened an office in the capital of Pakistan's North Waziristan region, where Osama bin Laden is believed to have his headquarters.


[Link: www.theaustralian.news.com.au...]

10 thedopefishlives  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:01:00pm

I *still* don't get why it's Islamophobic to be nervous about getting oneself blown up by a real extremist. *shrug*

11 mama winger  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:01:07pm

# 8 me

I meant to bold that:

Suicide / Homicide Bombing Planned for Green Zone in Iraq.

Threat still stands.

12 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:02:06pm

# 6 [deleted]

Deleted on the first comment.

I'm impressed.

13 Underzog  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:02:14pm

Maybe CNN serves the Soros shadow party in working to help Islam destroy Israel and dissolve U.S. sovereignty into an international body with the help of Islamic terrorism.

Once the U.S. is under an international authortity, then the Left can really fight the Islamist for world domination. CNN will help Soros with his messianic playacting just yet.

"There's no need to fear; UnderZog is here!"

14 Thanos  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:02:40pm

Hrmmm. Comment five yanked quickly :) Missed it.

OT, but you might want to look at this Charles.
[Link: www.captainsquartersblog.com...]
Dhimmi Dean Anderson resigned

15 friarstale  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:03:06pm

[43.88] Consider his cry: O my Lord! surely they are a people who do not believe.
[43.89] So turn away from them and say, Peace, for they shall soon come to know.

pretty ominous, eh?

[Link: www.hti.umich.edu...]

16 Thor-Zone  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:03:35pm

85% sounds about right. CAIR has it's own agenda that we all pretty much know. CNN have always been a bunch of dopes.

Nothing new here...just more of the same caca that unless we change will lead to big problems for us.

17 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:04:01pm

Yeah, get real, what could law enforcement officials and the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee possibly know about threats to this country?

Way to go CNN and CAIR, keep speaking truth to power!

/smell the infidel assisted taquija

18 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:09:10pm

Rumsfeld bio on Fox News now 8 edt

19 spanishpete  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:11:17pm

why cant they just report the news as it happens without any political slant.
and then have guests to give their opinions about the stories,
a nice bit of balance.
who told them they were the guilt complex of the world.

20 Hazan-Khan-(Secret)-Apostate-In-Pakistan  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:11:22pm

#7

You go mama winger!

21 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:14:44pm

Good thinking CNN, go and ask CAIR and muslims at a mosque if they're radical future terrorists.

/ask a stupid question . . .

22 friarstale  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:15:30pm

CNN: (toward the end, for those of you who might not have listened that long) "so, during this holiest of months..."

Barf!

23 spanishpete  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:21:34pm

is radical islam true islam
is moderate islam false islam.

this is the question they should be adressing.

24 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:22:07pm

C.A.I.R., you suck.

25 Trumanite  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:22:36pm

Gates of Vienna posted this a few days ago, re the Dennis Mitsubishi, commercial:

The next time something like this comes up — and you know it will — let’s mount a grassroots blog campaign to counter CAIR. If a couple of the big blogs like LGF got on it, and the rest of us responded, it could make a difference.

Is this a good time?

CAIR really needs to be called out.

26 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:26:07pm

CAIR and terrorism

/nothing to see here, move along

27 whiterasta  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:26:12pm

*Yawn* So tell me something I don't know.

Caliphate News Network siding with the enemy, yet again.

If this were WWII, we'd have the likes of CNN, BBC, CBC et al up on charges of sedition.

I can think of a few of the news reader bastards and bitches I'd like to see hanging from a rope.

(Didn't the Brits hang Lord Haw-Haw after WWII?)

Freedom of speech is one thing. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy is another.

Fuckers.

28 shug  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:29:05pm

85% controlled by extremists?

Hell No says CAIR.

For once I agree with them.


These are not extremists, for they represent a majority.One cannot by definition be an extremist if you are in the mainstream of any group

Unfortunately I think the true extremists are those that Love America first and favor peace

29 rapnuc753[deleted]  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:29:07pm
30 wvobiwan  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:32:37pm

CAIR "Speaks with a forked toungue like an Imam." TM

Good to see that Peter King gets it, I bet he gets 80% of the vote for saying that 80% of the mosques are run by extremists. It's the nasty little Islamic secret no one wants to talk about.

An Islamic "orthodox" MUST condone and even encourage ANY perversion, sadism, and violence to further the advance of Islam. And only the orthodox (read Wahabbi) get Saudi or Iranian money to build mosques.

31 spanishpete  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:32:37pm

whiterasta
I can think of a few of the news reader bastards and bitches I'd like to see hanging from a rope.

they just need correcting mr torrence.
when my wife tried to prevent me from doing my duty, i had to correct her too.

32 shug  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:33:13pm

Let's say Peter King is totally off base and it's only 25%

Hell let's say 10%


Where are the undercover agents?
Where is the wire tapping?
Where are the raids?


I want Perp walks damnit!

33 shug  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:35:46pm

29
rapnuc

I'd stay far far far away from even the most vague hint of violence towards anybody in the USA...terrorist suspect or not


It won't be well received

34 new_tommy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:35:48pm

To be fair, I have to agree that King is grossly exaggerating the threat. There is no way that 85% of all Muslim mosques are controlled by extremists...

...try, more like, 80-83% instead.

35 Charles  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:36:45pm

If I have to delete another comment, I'm going to start banning people. Advocating violence is NOT OK at LGF, and it's not a joke.

36 Fjordman  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:37:39pm

#5: It's an interesting link.

37 LSD  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:38:13pm

It's VERY TELLING that Nihad Awad says Rep. King says these things to get MORE VOTES and MORE MONEY ... that's because MORE AMERICANS understand the real THREAT, Mr. Awad, you Islamist Fascist Fuck ...

38 mama winger  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:38:31pm

Sorry Charles

39 el matamoros  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:38:34pm

holy crapola! This hits really close to home. That mosque they covered (which they did not mention WHERE it was) is actually the Long island Mosque of Westbury, NY. And Peter King is their representative AND MINE! I live about 10 minutes drive from the mosque and have to drive by it every day. I had read in our local paper that King had made a LOT of allegations against that mosque before, WITH PROOF! Some of the leaders there were arrested or fled the country in recent years. He is now saying they are funded by Saudis and provide money to terrorists. Wow, right in my backyard so to speak. As far as i know though there have been no plots DIRESTLY connected to that particular mosque...yet.

40 ChenZhen  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:38:39pm

I don't know what criteria is used to designate someone as 'extremist', but that seems a bit high. I don't know where King got his information, but if it was that bad I would think we'd have more problems here at home than what we've seen in the last 5 years.

41 Charles  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:40:02pm

mama winger: that wasn't directed at you...

42 hayseed  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:40:19pm

thank you charles some time i wonder whats going on at this site.

43 mama winger  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:41:03pm

#41 Charles

Oh. Ok. Better keep it on my account though in case I flip my lid one day. :)

44 new_tommy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:41:33pm

We need a project kind of like the one that was conducted a year or so ago in the Czech Republic. We need undercover reporters going into mosques to see what they really advocate and capturing it on video.

Taqiyya and tu-qoque are the order of the day among many Muslims and somebody needs to expose the public to the truth.

45 shug  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:41:40pm

Charles,
When I said I wanted RAIDS, I meant FBI raids...(not air raids or anything like that)

just to be clear.

;)

46 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:42:36pm
#38 mama winger

Sorry Charles

What did you do?

/I think he's refering to those who are fantasizing about arson and mass murder

47 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:42:46pm

Islam: no laughing matter.

48 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:42:54pm

# 35 Charles

If I have to delete another comment, I'm going to start banning people. Advocating violence is NOT OK at LGF, and it's not a joke.


Is suggesting that someone who whitewashes the inner struggle should live in dhimmitude for a week right out?

49 pat  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:43:55pm

"It reported that Atta was filmed reading a document marked in Arabic as a will as he sat beside fellow hijacker Ziad Jarrah — who seized control of United Airlines flight 93, which crashed into a field in Shanksville, Pa." from previous thread

"Note the woman who says she still doesn’t believe Muslims carried out the 9/11 attacks." from this thread

When reality collides with fantasy. The result is cultlike adherence. Just like BDS.

50 mama winger  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:44:23pm

#46 KB

My comment at #7. I thought I pulled the plug on my own bad self. :)

51 Charles  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:45:31pm

Killian Bundy: exactly. They know who they are. Their comments just disappeared, and if it continues, their accounts will too.

52 shug  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:45:43pm

49 Pat

Sometimes reality collides with fantasy skyscrapers

53 wvobiwan  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:48:33pm

If the media was doing it's job, Charles wouldn't have one here. There's always a bright side I guess...

Oh well Clinton New Network will have another cash cow soon with Hitlery.

54 ibrodsky  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:49:21pm

The other day I was stuck in an airport for several hours...

I found myself surrounded by screens running the Caliphate News Network, a.k.a. CNN.

55 glasscitygirl  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:49:34pm

85% of the mosques in America are controlled by extremists. –

My city has a very large Moslem / Arabic population. We have a very large mosque. The mosque had a festival to raise funds as many churches do. I attended and took a tour out of curiosity-- and also because I love Arabic food. The mosque was not much to look at from the inside. I though it would be more beautiful. They have the prayer area, large dining hall, a school, a morgue, and a library. The girl giving the tour said that on important holy days thay get over 100,000 visitor. (Could this be correct?)

The library was especially interesting. – Books devoted to the proper place of women. – Stuff that would make even a mild feminist’s blood boil -- A very thick book offering apologetics as to why it is OK (and expected) to horribly kill Moslems who leave the faith – A hand full of books explaining the relationship between Islam and Christianity (as if). There were many more but I can’t remember all the titles.

What I want to know is – is this Mosque one of the 85% or 15%?

56 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:49:54pm

Good evening, all...

Funny how, whenever a charge of extremism is directed towards muslims, the MSM bends over backward to ask CAIR their opinions about it...

And yet, any charge against a Republican is published with nary a comment from the targeted Republican...

57 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:49:58pm
EU looks for common ground with Sudan on Darfur

By Ingrid Melander 1 hour, 49 minutes ago


[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Has anyone else seen the Darfur commercial on Fox News. It ask Bush to do something about Darfur. It might be useful to know that Darfur is a result of Arab imperialism. I say start naming names: Islam and Arab Imperialism is the problem.

58 Hawaiian cocoNUT  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:50:18pm

This Muslim lady interviewed in the P. Zhan’s piece said that she doesn’t believe it was done by Muslims. Auch- imagine how angrily mad that assertion should make OBL and Zawahiri. No mater how hard they have tried to take the credit for 9/11 that even us_the infidel_ already believe it yet,this pious_though half human nonetheless_ Muslim woman STILL doesn’t buy it. Oysh what a Chutzpah ;-)

59 khamr  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:50:54pm

Fucking Communists.

Islam isn't the problem...

...Europe and their Donkey Brethren in America are the real problem.

Fuck you Europe! And fuck you Democrats.

60 pat  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:51:35pm

CAIR lies like an inman. And I agree with the common sentiment. It is not enough that the FBI tracks the money. Someone must attend Friday sermons and prayer groups. That is the only way to see what is going on. These mosques should be investigated the way ABC investigated a Christian camp last Friday on GMA. The failure of the MSM to do so is a mix of cowardice and blindness.

61 mama winger  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:51:56pm

#55 glasscitygirl

They had a morgue? Really?

I would love to go inside our local mosque but I don't know how to go about it. Will they let just anyone walk in, like a church? I tried to make my daughter go with me, but she's too angry. We'd get booted for sure.

62 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:52:31pm
63 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:53:23pm

Pete King is right on almost all the issues. I wish he'd throw his hat in the ring in 2008.

64 shug  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:53:43pm

An SUV Plows into a crowd of college students


Two things happen
--Christians get whiplash
--Muslims fear backlash

65 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:55:55pm

# 58 Hawaiian cocoNUT

This Muslim lady interviewed in the P. Zhan’s piece said that she doesn’t believe it was done by Muslims.


I would suggest that this woman be introduced to OBL and Zawahiri, but that could be construed as the advocacy of violence.

(grin)

66 mama winger  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:56:05pm

#62 ploome

That looks good. I will read it. And yes, they do NOT think the way we do. My mother and sister lived in Yemen, and they both say the exact same thing. They liked the people, but had no respect for them. Very similar to what your writer says. Thanks for the link.

67 RTLM  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:56:21pm

Hello all

OT - I think Raul Castro's wife died today

Link

68 new_tommy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:58:49pm

On the next CNN special reports:

The ugly truth about Islam revealed.

69 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:59:21pm
#60 pat

Someone must attend Friday sermons and prayer groups. That is the only way to see what is going on.

What makes you think the FBI or other government entities don't already do that, in person or electronically?

/hell, they already monitor mosques for radiation

70 StuLongIsland  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:59:21pm

Got a call from the good Congressman's office the other day to go out and vote. He has been pretty much a shoe-in when running. I hope he doesn't run up against tough opposition, I might have to get out on my two feet and help out.

71 ibrodsky  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:59:41pm

55 glasscitygirl 9/30/2006 05:49PM PDT

...The girl giving the tour said that on important holy days thay get over 100,000 visitor. (Could this be correct?)

They are so accustomed to lying, they don't the difference between truth and fiction.

The library was especially interesting. – Books devoted to the proper place of women. – Stuff that would make even a mild feminist’s blood boil

No, most feminists are liberals, and most liberals are very sensitive to Muslims' feelings. If a public school textbook mentions Christianity, they will run to the ACLU complaining. But if Muslims tell them to respect their vile ideology or else, they will shut up in a hurry.

-- A very thick book offering apologetics as to why it is OK (and expected) to horribly kill Moslems who leave the faith – A hand full of books explaining the relationship between Islam and Christianity (as if). There were many more but I can’t remember all the titles.

Muslims are anxious to engage in "dialogue" with Christians so they can unite in the fight against the Zionist Jooos.

Of course, Muslims should be allowed to practice Shari'a among themselves. It's a basic right of all Rainbow Coalition subgroups. And if Shari'a mandates killing those who leave Islam (don't you just admire their passionate beliefs?!?!), who are we Dead White European Males to tell them otherwise?

72 hayseed  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:59:48pm

# 59 kahmr... get a life, who do you trust to confiscate your money.

73 sandbox  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 3:59:51pm

Pete King is the best.

74 Quella  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:00:31pm

I live the district over from Peter King's district. I wish I lived in his district, so I could vote for him! He is the sort of politician I stand behind.

As far as the interview goes...wow...they cherry picked five people who attended the mosque and asked them on national TV if they advocated violence, and only one said she didn't think Muslims were behind 9/11. Shocker. Like any of them would really admit what they think! That would take investigative journalism - something Debbie Schlussel but obviously not CNN actually does.

Just pathetic.

75 LSD  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:01:04pm
76 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:01:53pm

# 61 mama winger

I would love to go inside our local mosque but I don't know how to go about it.


I think its called a search warrant.

;)

77 hayseed  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:02:24pm

#75 easy ...good vs evil

78 tarkus  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:02:47pm

Pete King is a patriot, A very brave man. There are no other representatives sounding the alarm for fear of intimidation, political attack, or being labelled a islamophobe/racist. He deserves our support and any and all help.

79 glasscitygirl  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:03:26pm

Mama
I went because they were having a festival that was open to the public. I would not go otherwise.
They have a morgue because they have special requirements about preparing their dead for burial. – All volunteer staff for the morgue.

80 Timbre  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:03:47pm

I think all of us here at LGF should organize a group trip to Mecca and Medina. And when we are not allowed to go (because Muslims do not allow anyone except Muslims, or really good con-men, to enter the Hijaz) we can document the apartheid to the whole world. Which really wouldn't prove much, because only the honest minority (us) understand the supremacist and apartheid nature of Islam.

BTW, liberals, there are thousands and thousands of Muslims living in Israel proper.)

81 mama winger  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:04:51pm

#76 The Other Les

I think its called a search warrant.

LOL! Yes, I guess so.

Well, I need to go call my elderly mother and see how many illegals came thru her backyard arroyo today and make sure she's OK. bbl

82 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:05:42pm

Moderate Muslims -

A tiny minority of extremists who have hijacked a violent religion.

83 glasscitygirl  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:06:02pm

The question remains--
Was it in the 85% or the 15%. If it is in the 15% we are in big trouble.

84 hayseed  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:06:10pm

mama winger, once a month the mosque offers the sanatized tour. trust me my muslim pain doc done asked me to take the tour. what they do the other three weeks we only know!

85 Right Side  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:06:36pm

#3 spanishpete:

for the life of me i cant understand why the news people give Islam a free ride.
they will be the first to suffer.


We've discussed this many times here.

The MSM is dominated by modern liberals and modern Leftists, highly secular and often outright atheistic. To them, all religions are equally bad--they're all primitive superstitions that oppose abortion and same-sex marriage. That's the Rosie O'Donnell School of Modern Leftism.

Whenever you attempt to discuss Islamic radicalism with Leftists, they immediately ask "What about Christian abortion-clinic bombers?" They can denounce all religions in the abstract, and worry about abortion and same-sex marriage. Because they're secure in the knowledge that they don't have to fear assassination, officially sanctioned rape, beheadings or stonings like in Muslim countries.

86 Beagle  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:09:13pm

No bike thread and I finally have one. I've ridden it four times in two days. I missed biking, not counting the last ride when I went over a car door, on the hood, and splat on the road.

87 sandbox  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:12:39pm

OT,
Any further news on yesterdays's thread about the Somali cabdrivers in Minnesota who won't take passengers carrying packages with alcoholic beverages.? Any local politicians out there picking up on this issue?

88 ted  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:14:05pm

Notice how the dhimmi CNN interviewer sat on the floor...CNN and the NY Times are the 2 most dangerous internal threats facing us today...

89 rapnuc753  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:15:22pm

how does one send a note to charles johnson?


just curious

thanks

90 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:16:20pm

#86 Beagle

Not my bike, but close (mine's a 2001 with fewer miles). Just as purty, though...

91 Quella  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:16:52pm

Right Side #85:

I take issue with that. I am an atheist, and my eyes are opened to Islamofascism. I also have many atheist friends who are the same way. Being an atheist does not mean one engages in moral equivalence.

92 lawhawk  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:16:54pm

Are we going to have another late nite massacre for people spewing on Charles' site again? We are here as his guests, and he should not have to run around cleaning up the messes that others leave here.

Dang, people really need to be considerate, and folks should not have to remind others to mind their manners and act responsibly... /stepping off the pulpit

#74 quella:

And yet, 1 out of 5 suggests 20% questioned the 9/11 story... a glimpse into the real schizophrenic minds of the Muslim world? I think it's closer to the truth than they're willing to admit.

93 pat  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:18:22pm

Sandbox. Yeah, it is right here: [Link: isaacschrodinger.typepad.com...]

Basically airport wants cabs that will allow alcohol to have a red roof sign. I think it would be better if muslims had a bloody red roof sign so I could ride with someone else. Also a link to a cabbie that refused a seeing eye dog. Muslim of course.

94 new_tommy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:18:28pm

OT

Malkin is reporting that Arab smoke shops and convenience stores in Louisiana have been raided. No word on exactly what this all about.

It is interesting to note that Hezbollah has a well-established history of cigarette bootlegging in the United States.

95 Quella  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:18:34pm

lawhawk #92:

True - even 20% is a high number of nutjobs. But I happen to believe it's much higher!

96 glasscitygirl  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:19:31pm

71. ibrodsky –

I am a conservative but I do have a smattering of liberal and ultra liberal friends and business associates. I have notices after a few drinks, when talk drifts to Islam, war on terror, ect. -- Many of them are on the same page as me (us). -- And they do specifically dislike the Islam stance on women, homosexuals, free speech, intolerance, and violence – All the things one should hate about Islam.

97 hayseed  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:19:38pm

lawhawk.. amen bretheren

98 khamr  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:19:57pm

Al-Gore-a Akbar!

/Muslim + Liberal = Miserable

99 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:19:57pm
#89 rapnuc753

how does one send a note to charles johnson?

The contact form works.

/left sidebar

100 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:20:42pm

#92 lawhawk

No spewing here... Though I may post a music link, if this turns into the SNDT... ;)

101 Beagle  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:20:59pm

#90 ctp

I'd love to ride a motorcycle in the post-apocalyptic wasteland, you know, less traffic. I can ride my bike on the paths.

102 Quella  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:21:16pm

glasscitygirl #96:

That is because one has to be an ultra conservative to actually side with the Islamfascists. Their ideology is so conservative that it takes mankind back to Medevil Times. Any non-hypocrite liberal by definition is anti-Islamofascism.

Sadly, too many liberals are hypocrites. I am not one of them.

103 ted  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:21:45pm

Besides cluesless moonbats like Wolf "Mr. Global Warming" Blitzer, Dem operative Donna Brazil, Clintonista Bill Schneider and wanna be shaheed Christiane Armanpour, Iman Cafferty delivers his daily 4pm sermon to all infidels

104 sandbox  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:23:16pm

93 Thanks Pat.
It has to be against the taxi rules for the cabbie to reject a rider becuase they have alcohol.

105 godfrey  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:23:39pm

ploome

Schrodinger's blog rocks. Thanks for the link.

106 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:23:45pm
107 terri g  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:24:25pm

#54, I always wonder why it's CNN at the airports. When does their contract end I wonder? Their fearless leader Ted Turner just wants us to be nice to them.

108 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:25:37pm

#101 Beagle

Heh. But then, It'll be like a bad Kevin Costner enviro-movie: GasWorld...

109 wvobiwan  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:26:30pm

#64 Shug

An SUV Plows into a crowd of college students


Two things happen
--Christians get whiplash
--Muslims fear backlash

Are you suggesting that Chistians would murder Muslims with a vehicle? Hasn't that in fact actually been the MO of some Muslim-on-Christian murders recently?

110 hayseed  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:27:14pm

100 ctp... i started early!

111 glasscitygirl  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:27:47pm

102 Quella,
Absolutely! You have to have a mind set dating back about 600 years to think Islam is the way to go!

112 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:28:45pm

#109 wvobiwan

I think one generally gets whiplash when hit from behind... Or while on the sidewalk when run over by an SUV driven by a true believer...

113 sandbox  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:28:52pm

96 glasscitygirl.
I also know lots of liberals. I agree that they have become much more aware of the radical islamist threat. The Muhammad cartoon issue and recent reaction to Pope's speech have enlightened many.

114 Solomon2  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:29:28pm
...The [Arab News] reporter then argues that Arabs failed in the comparison as Jews didn't whine because "they were too busy educating themselves, working hard and buying up those very media institutions that are now allowing them to influence the world. They counteracted systematic campaigns of disinformation by spreading their own information...[and] turned the situation around making sure that everyone in the region danced to their tune."

Essentially, this article endorses the view that Arabs or Muslims should concentrate on increasing their appeal to and control of Western media, as The Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) urged earlier this month.

Note the open acknowledgement that Jews are counteracting disinformation...

Media War II

115 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:29:33pm

#110 hayseed

You too?

116 rapnuc753  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:29:39pm

#99 Killian Bundy

thanks! worked this time.


regards

rapnuc753

117 rapnuc753  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:30:16pm

#99 Killian Bundy

thanks! worked this time.


regards

rapnuc753

118 ibrodsky  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:30:48pm

#96 glasscitygirl 9/30/2006 06:19PM PDT

71. ibrodsky –

I am a conservative but I do have a smattering of liberal and ultra liberal friends and business associates. I have notices after a few drinks, when talk drifts to Islam, war on terror, ect. -- Many of them are on the same page as me (us). -- And they do specifically dislike the Islam stance on women, homosexuals, free speech, intolerance, and violence – All the things one should hate about Islam.

That's interesting, because I have some very liberal friends and relatives, and what I found is that right after 9/11 they were very angry and ready to shoot off nukes.

But as time passed they shifted from being angry at the Islamic Nazis to being angry at "The Worst President Ever" GW Bush.

Most of them insist they would fight to preserve their sacred freedoms (drugs, abortions, nudist beaches, etc.)... but I never hear any of them bring up the Islamic Nazis as a threat. They bring up GW Bush as the biggest threat. Only when pressed--when reminded of the similarities between today's jihadists and 1930s' German Nazis--will they take a stand.

I hope that when the day comes they will fight on our side. But as best I can tell, right now they are running errands for our enemies.

Oh, and most of them say we are creating more terrorists by fighting the terrorists and by supporting Israel, the only country in the ME they sincerely hate.

119 lawhawk  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:30:58pm

#94 tommy:

I saw that, and then remembered a similar incident earlier this year. I posted about them here.

120 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:31:04pm
#104 sandbox

It has to be against the taxi rules for the cabbie to reject a rider becuase they have alcohol.

Well, of course it is, but this is Minneapolis, where the City Council recently endorsed the U.S. Department of Peace.

The home of Keith Ellison (vote for Alan Fine!).

/cant swing a cat without hitting a moonbaticus

121 sandbox  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:33:45pm

120 Killian
Two suggestions:
1. Alan Fine makes this a campaign issue.
2. Sombody sues the taxi commission to cease this practice.

122 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:34:35pm
123 jaynumber13  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:35:49pm

You know, if /when the poop hits the fan and a LOT of things start happening here in the US, do you think the left will start blaming Islamofacism or keep with the "Bush's fault" meme?

124 ibrodsky  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:35:50pm

#113 sandbox 9/30/2006 06:28PM PDT

I also know lots of liberals. I agree that they have become much more aware of the radical islamist threat. The Muhammad cartoon issue and recent reaction to Pope's speech have enlightened many.

Most of the liberals I know believe the Pope is the greater threat.

125 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:35:51pm

Sandbox, Killian

What about Catholic pharmicists who don't want to sell the "morning after" pill? Should they be required to?

/seems like a similar situation

126 hayseed  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:37:44pm

# 115 ctp ... my friends made me. ijust went out for one beer.lol

127 glasscitygirl  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:38:41pm

102 Quella,
Absolutely! You have to have a mind set dating back about 600 years to think Islam is the way to go!

113 sandbox,
I used to dislike the pope -- But now I am trying to figure out how to send him fan mail.

I truly don't think the Islam issue is a liberal vs conservative issue.

I truly think it is a “western- modern- democratic-free thinking vs Islamic issue.

128 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:39:32pm
#100 christheprofessor

Though I may post a music link

Can . . . not . . . control . . . myself!

/please don't prattle on about Cream being the ultimate power trio

129 sandbox  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:39:47pm

125 Chris.
You stumped me.

130 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:40:45pm

#118 ibrodsky

Oh, and most of them say we are creating more terrorists by fighting the terrorists and by supporting Israel, the only country in the ME they sincerely hate.

Still taking their Marching orders from Moscow:

But there is a contradiction between the Stone who wrote the passionately pro-Zionist "This Is Israel" and the Stone who later composed jeremiads about Israeli "racism" and insensitivity to the plight of Palestinian refugees. Of course, everyone is allowed to change his mind. What was missing from Stone during his lifetime was some candor about what made him swerve so radically from one view of Israel to another. But when we think back on Stone's Soviet boosterism, even during the worst of Stalin's crimes, we are reminded that candor was not always his strong suit.


[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

131 pat  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:41:27pm

#107 terri g  and Idbrowski
At our International Airport Fox is on half the time. And I think some passengers just turn the dial. But note that it is usually headline news that is on and that is not particularly offensive. And I like Glenn Beck.

Sandbox. At our airport Taxi service is a very important concession. If you lose your airport license you might give up a couple grand a month. One complaint brother and you are history.

132 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:46:21pm

#126 hayseed

Heh. Been there, done drank that...

#128 Killian

Excellent choice...

#129 Sandbox

No worries. It stumps me, too...

133 pat  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:48:01pm

#125 christheprofessor
Morning after pill. If they stock it sell it. But private pharmicies do not carry everything. Our local Longs refuses to dispense class 3 drugs. The Catholics boxed themselves with the idiotic edict on the birth contorl pill. The perfect Catholic solution. The infallibility thing(adopted in 1680 or so) comes back to bite them in the ass.

134 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:48:29pm
#125 christheprofessor

What about Catholic pharmicists who don't want to sell the "morning after" pill? Should they be required to?

Last time I checked, they are.

/that's why this taxi thing is wrong, they need to have their airport permits revoked

135 M. Bensson-Levi  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:49:10pm

#118 ibrodsky

Hello.

...Israel, the only country in the ME they sincerely hate.

Disgusting, isn't it? I no longer have any liberal friends. They couldn't stand hearing me tell them, "You're a nice guy, but you're a complete fucking idiot." Thin skins.

It's the anti- Israel, pro-arab Jews that set my teeth on edge! Truely the slime of the earth.

BTW, I admire, and whole heartedly agree with all of your posts(so far,...I'm a contrary, and ornary sonofabitch).

136 sandbox  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:52:32pm

Christheprofessor.
On second thought, the Catholic pharmacist knows what is being requested and has to carry the item (the morning after pill in this case) in the store. However, alcoholic beverages are generally supposed to be concealed in a bag or package when being carried in public in most places. So the cab driver would have to look over a person's luggage, etc. to see if they had alcohol. So while I am undecided whether to allow the catholic pharmacist not to dispence the morning after pill, I am convinced that the Muslim cab driver has to take passengers who have alcoholic beveridges as long as those beveridges are concealed in packages.

137 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:53:54pm

#133 pat

I think the owner should have the choice as to what items s/he (how's that for politically correct?) carries (with the exception of life-saving concoctions).

If the owner carries it and sells it, the employee should have to sell it. If the owner chooses not to carry it or sell it, the employee shouldn't (can't) sell it.

With respect to the taxis, I guess one could make an argument about the necessity of moving people at an airport.

138 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:54:52pm

#134 Killian

I think you are correct about the pharmacists...

139 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:57:41pm
140 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:58:48pm
141 ciaospirit  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 4:59:49pm

The reporter says that Muslims want us to see the true image of Islam...praying with their asses up in the air shows they are peaceful and law abiding. No, that image shows me that they're loyal to Allah even if they have to kill and behead infidels in order to please him.

142 pat  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:00:06pm

#137 agreed, by the way I do not think for an instant that this particular cabbie thought of this policy. On my previous cited link, it is pointed out that 138 Muslim cabbies now refuse. This is an attempt to impose sharia from the (Lying Like an) inman. How's that Very Good dog of yours? The boys are lying next to me.

143 M. Bensson-Levi  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:00:24pm

#123 jaynumber13

Hello.

WHEN, not IF, the shit hits the fan here in the good old US of A, ALL the libs, including Fonda, Kennedy, Kerry, ad nausium, will all be at the forefront of the "reactionary" forces claiming that they were conservatives all the while...from wayback.

Even easier for the non celebs. In keeping with their general lack of character.

144 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:04:29pm

#125 ctp

What about Catholic pharmicists who don't want to sell the "morning after" pill? Should they be required to?

This is key: Depends if the Catholic pharmicists owns the pharmacy. As far as the muslims, what is next no gay guy, no women without burkas, no women w/o male relatives? Give an inch and muslims will try to take more.

145 glasscitygirl  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:04:44pm

118 ibrodsky

Of course the liberal hate GWB. That’s their job!
I am just saying most don’t like Islam either.
At least the ones I talk to.

;- )

146 sandbox  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:05:10pm

Does this mean that someone is actually going thru people's luggage to look for alcohol before they are allowed onto the taxi?

147 Isaac Schrödinger  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:07:58pm

#62, ploome hineni:

Thank you for the link.

#105, Godfrey: "Schrodinger's blog rocks."

Thank you for the compliment.

148 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:08:47pm

#133 pat

The Catholics boxed themselves with the idiotic edict on the birth contorl pill. The perfect Catholic solution. The infallibility thing(adopted in 1680 or so) comes back to bite them in the ass.

Yea right. They call it Eurabia for a reason. Ask Mark Steyn.

149 rorschach  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:10:04pm
"...charges that are causing a lot of outrage."

Heaven forbid that we do anything to cause muslim outrage.

/barf

150 Racer X  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:11:40pm

Sad to say this but it is true - "when the shit hits the fan" - liberals will immediately begin railing on the republicans for not doing enough to protect them.

Asswipes.

151 Isaac Schrödinger  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:12:02pm

#146, sandbox: "Does this mean that someone is actually going thru people's luggage to look for alcohol before they are allowed onto the taxi?"

The customer told the cab driver to drive carefully because she had wine bottles in her luggage. NO TAXI FOR YOU!

Though, I wouldn't be surprised if in the future these "bold" drivers start asking directly if the customer has any alcohol on him/her.

152 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:14:02pm

#151 is

Though, I wouldn't be surprised if in the future these "bold" drivers start asking directly if the customer has any alcohol on him/her.

It is a start. Slow domination of the society.

153 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:14:45pm
if taxi drivers object to passanger luggage, they should not be on the airport run

Given more thought, agreed...

154 ciaospirit  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:15:33pm

#57 jrdroll

that Darfur is a result of Arab imperialism.

I noticed as well that the media avoids saying the A-word and that Clooney (in the transcript I read anyway) didn't say it at the UN either. On the other hand, every FOX crawl having do to with the recent rioting in Indonesia was certain to point out that it was CHRISTIANS.

It's nauseating.

155 ciaospirit  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:18:24pm

benzacharia

OT

The OSU game's turning into a yawner so get busy blogging.

I know, I know, it ain't over til it's over; but this one's over.

156 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:18:53pm

#151 Isaac

I wonder what the driver would have done if the passenger had been openly carrying a Bible...

157 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:25:26pm

#156 ctp

I wonder what the driver would have done if the passenger had been openly carrying a Bible...

Would make a fun Protest Warrior video.

158 sandbox  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:27:39pm

Chris,
They should test out a bible. Have someone try getting into a cab in Minn. with a bible-in-hand. Then eat a ham sandwhich on the ride. Read sexually explicit mag. Play Hatikvah on boombox, etc. etc.

159 pat  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:31:05pm

147 Isaac Schrödinger
Good site. Book Marked. Note that the present discussion uses your material as source. See #93. Big Congrats.

160 M. Bensson-Levi  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:31:08pm

#158 sandbox

Play Hatikvah on boombox,...

LOLLOLLOL! Good one.

161 PETN Sandwich  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:37:18pm

#125 christheprofessor


Sandbox, Killian

What about Catholic pharmicists who don't want to sell the "morning after" pill? Should they be required to?

/seems like a similar situation

It's been beat around a bit already above,

If your "religionious beliefs" say you cannot associate with your employer's business then you need to get a job somewhere else. [assuming the product is stocked - the taxi is available]

A business refusing to provide the service or goods available based upon the customer's characteristics needs to put a sign up saying "No ___" and reap their rewards.

162 hutchrun  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:43:47pm

We could bring you to your knees: Mush

LONDON: General Musharraf has mixed rank self-righteousness with a remarkably stark warning to the West that it could be 'brought to its knees' if Pakistan withdraws its cooperation in the so-called war on terror.

...But sources here said Musharraf's passionate defence of his country and its infamous intelligence agency early on Saturday morning was yet again undermined after Mumbai's police chief firmly blamed the ISI for planning the 7/11 train blasts.
[Link: timesofindia.indiatimes.com...]

163 Isaac Schrödinger  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:44:50pm

#159, pat: "Good site. Book Marked."

Thanks!

164 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:45:50pm

#157 jrdroll

Would make a nice news video, if they were objective about it...

#158 sandbox

Agreed. Send them out, with hidden cameras, and see what happens...

#161 PETN Sandwich

Thanks, I hadn't read the thread (just got in, and 100+ is mucho reading!)...

165 Thanos  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:53:47pm
We could bring you to your knees: Mush

LONDON: General Musharraf has mixed rank self-righteousness with a remarkably stark warning to the West that it could be 'brought to its knees' if Pakistan withdraws its cooperation in the so-called war on terror.

...But sources here said Musharraf's passionate defence of his country and its infamous intelligence agency early on Saturday morning was yet again undermined after Mumbai's police chief firmly blamed the ISI for planning the 7/11 train blasts.

I'm not so sure that Mushy's as bad as he's painted, either that or he's much much worse...

e.g. this critical story from IRNA:
Police and security agents in Pakistan have arrested an Afghan religious scholar, who was freed from the Guantanamo prison one year ago, his brother has said.

Abdur Rahim Muslim Dost was shifted to unknown destination after he was arrested outside a mosque, where he had offered Friday prayers, Badr-uz-Zaman said.

Senior Superintendent Police Peshawar Iftikhar Khan said he is unaware of the arrest but said the secret agents may have taken him into custody.

Badr-uz-Zaman said that his brother was taken into an official jeep.

He said he was later informed that his brother is in police custody and is being questioned.

He said that his brother is a religious scholar and has written 37 books.

"My brother has no links with any extremist group and I fear that he will be killed ," he aid.

Badr-uz-Zaman said his brother was receiving threats from unidentified persons and that he escaped several attempts of arrests.

Muslim Dost and his brother Badr-uz-Zaman were released last year from the infamous American detention center after three-and-half years.

Both the brothers were accused of having links with al-Qaeda but were released after they were cleared of charges.

They had written a Pashto language book after their release in which they had criticized the role of Pakistan's secret agencies.

Badr-uz-Zaman blamed Pakistan's intelligence agency ISI for the arrest of his brother.

He linked the arrest with the critical book.

166 PETN Sandwich  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:54:14pm

On thetaxi issue,

Oddly enough, there are limo services that offer wet bars [but they cost a bit more]

167 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 5:55:33pm

#164 ctp

Would make a nice news video, if they were objective about it...

Objective about what: Islam Imperialism?

168 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 6:01:12pm

#167 jrdroll

Objective = objective = objective.

You do understand the term, no?

169 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 6:11:14pm

#168 ctp

Objective = objective = objective.

You do understand the term, no?

Objective CNN style ,objective CAIR style,objective ACLU style , objective NYT style
You define objective to be what exactly: vis a vis Islam Imperialism. The problem for Muslim cab drivers is that there is something called "public accomadations". Ain't no discrimmination on this soil.

170 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 6:20:50pm

#169 jrdroll

I define "objective" to mean "objective."

As in, report the story with no biased commentary.

171 FinallyHere  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 6:22:32pm

15% King mentions are not mosques. They left real Islam and are probably condemned by real Muslims, members of the 85%.

172 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 6:36:14pm

#170 ctp

As in, report the story with no biased commentary.

When was the last time ap, reuters, cnn, et al did that?

173 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 6:43:36pm

#172 jrdroll

That wasn't the question...

But, I'm not in the mood to argue...

Peace...

174 rapnuc753  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 6:51:15pm

Good fellow brethren of the scaly skin

I have one week off for reading. I would appreciate a list of 5 books to read to update my lack of knowledge on the muslim infiltration into the US, Might a list of good titles be within someone's grasp"?

Hmmm?


thanks

regards

rapnuc753

175 shug  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 6:51:24pm

#109 wvobiwan
#64 Shug


An SUV Plows into a crowd of college students


Two things happen
--Christians get whiplash
--Muslims fear backlash

Are you suggesting that Chistians would murder Muslims with a vehicle? Hasn't that in fact actually been the MO of some Muslim-on-Christian murders recently?

YEs, Christians get whiplash FROM their heads contacting the SUV Bumpers as they get Run Over

guess It didn't sound as clear as it should have.

the Christians and Jews are the ones that seem to be getting all the whiplash ( or gunshots ) but all we ever hear from Douggie Hooper is the Whining about fear of backlash!

176 hutchrun  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 6:51:47pm

Some useful analysis:

MUSHARRAF: THROWING DUST IN HIS OWN EYES
[Link: saag.org...]

MUSHARRAF'S MEIN KAMPF
[Link: saag.org...]

US TAXPAYERS' MONEY FUNDED NEO TALIBAN & LET - INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM MONITOR---PAPER NO. 129
[Link: saag.org...]

177 EE  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 6:59:39pm

Congressman King's statement is supported by the testimony of Sheikh Kabbani. See the article by Abdul Hadi Palazzi, The Islamists have it Wrong, and look at the section on the United States and Italy
[Link: www.meforum.org...]

178 EE  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 7:01:50pm

re #177

United States. Sheikh Kabbani, of the Islamic Supreme Council of America and a disciple of Nazim ‘Adil al-Qubrusi, declared at the U.S. State Department:

We would like to advise our government, our congressmen, that there is something big going on and people do not understand it. You have many mosques around the United States. . . . So the most dangerous things are going on in these mosques that have self-appointed leaders throughout the United States. The extremist ideology makes them very active.
We can say that they took over 80 percent of the mosques in the United States. There are more than 3,000 mosques in the United States. This means that the ideology of extremism has been spread to 80 percent of the Muslim population, mostly the youth and the new generation.22

Sheikh Kabbani is trying to show Westerners the reality behind the deceptive façade. The great majority of all mosques in democratic countries— not only in North America, but in most of western Europe as well—are controlled by extremists.23

Looking at two organizations in specific: the Council for American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is a Muslim Brethren front organization24 in the United States that lobbies against journalists and scholars who dare to write anything about Islam at variance with the Brethren’s Islamist agenda, such as advocating diversity in Islam.25 Notwithstanding CAIR’s evident connection to Hamas, it is accepted by the U.S. government as a legitimate representative of the Muslim American community. Likewise, the American Muslim Council (AMC) is another branch of the Muslim Brethren. According to Khalid Durán, "The AMC's most remarkable feat was to obtain the monopoly on the training of Muslim chaplains for the U.S. Army (which is like Tehran entrusting the training of its Revolutionary Guards to the U.S. Institute of Peace)." Thus, while non-Islamist Islamic organizations like the Association for Islamic Charitable Projects26 are more or less ignored by the U.S. government, Muslim American soldiers receive spiritual assistance from Islamist chaplains.

179 jrdroll  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 7:05:57pm

#173 ctp

Peace...


Thanks moonbat. Bless the Gaia.

180 AZfederalist  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 7:23:30pm

New bumper sticker [for that car you would really like to replace]: "I slam Islam"

181 mattm  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 8:36:26pm

I guess Muslims celebrating 9/11 and the hijackers being Muslim dosen't apply here.

182 humanity  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 9:20:08pm
some will be praying to forgive this

what he want to say with this... we should forgive muslims, or muslims should forgive us?

183 Merovign  Sat, Sep 30, 2006 10:10:56pm

This is happening all the time, on all kinds of subjects.

I don't normally watch TV, except when visiting friends or families of the "couch potato" variety.

Was just doing so, and saw a news report on the "border wall." The newscritters went to a local university and a Mexican restaurant to interview people about it (guess why). All their interviewees were negative. The words "illegal" and "undocumented" were not used in the entire broadcast.

My experience is, your average reporter is less honest than your average used-car salesman. And I'm sick of it.

In my opinion, there can never be a solution to ANY major political issues until there is an honest source of information that the majority of people have access to and can have a reasonable trust of.

184 hutchrun  Sun, Oct 1, 2006 1:55:59am

The US must change the nature of dealings with the Pakis-they never were friends and never will be. The border issue has to be readdressed:

SOLUTION

Afghanistan and Balochistan should form a legal team to challenge the illegal occupation of Afghan territories and Balochistan by Pakistan in the International Court of Justice. Once the Durand Line Agreement is declared illegal, it will result in the return of Pakistan-occupied territories back to Afghanistan. Also, Balochistan will be declared a country that was forcibly invaded through use of force by the Pakistanis; and with international assistance, Balochistan can regain its independence. It is the right time to act now because the US and Allied forces in Afghanistan are positioned to facilitate the enforcement of the Court’s judgment.

After Pakistan vacates territories belonging to Afghanistan and Balochistan, a new boarder should be demarked amicably to determine Baloch dominated areas to become the new Balochistan, and Pashtun dominated areas to be merged into Afghanistan. And, with the help of the US and Allied forces, the Afghans and the Baloch forces can flush out members of Al-Qaeda and Talebans from their respective countries.

A wise observer once said, “Pakistan is a completely superfluous and artificially created spot on the world map that has become a breeding ground for extremism, and trouble that would be best done away with.”
[Link: afghanland.com...]

185 Ghost of a flea  Sun, Oct 1, 2006 3:41:20am

Ahh, mainstream media. If only you would broadcast Mohammed's messages from beyond the grave...

186 BigZ  Sun, Oct 1, 2006 5:04:52am

Ok, so I'm late getting here.
But, I gotta AGREE with godfrey:


#105 godfrey


ploome

Schrodinger's blog rocks. Thanks for the link.


That's most enlightning.
*wondering why CNN won't report on that*?

187 Ben F  Sun, Oct 1, 2006 5:15:11am

Great approach by CNN to the question of extremist takeover of American mosques. They could have sent reporters in to attend Friday sermons and hear what is preached. Instead they ask a mosque to provide leaders for an interview.

188 DP111  Sun, Oct 1, 2006 5:21:38am

An article from the Philadelphia Enquirer.
---

One Last Thing | Post-9/11 conflicts rooted in history
It's not just Afghanistan, Iraq and a "war on terror." It's the West vs. the Islamic world, a clash that has never abated.
By Jonathan Last

Soon after 9/11, the Bush administration labeled the conflict into which it plunged this country the "war on terror." But this is no more descriptive than calling the fight in Iraq a "war on IEDs." The more pressing question is: Are we, or are we not, engaged in a larger clash of civilizations?

If the answer is "We are," the clash long predates 9/11, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and George W. Bush. It predates America itself. It is a clash between Western civilization and the Islamic world.

Harvard professor Samuel Huntington first made this case in 1993, in his famous article "The Clash of Civilizations" in the journal Foreign Affairs. "Conflict along the fault line between Western and Islamic civilizations has been going on for 1,300 years," he wrote. After the founding of Islam, Muslims spread their faith by the sword. Islam conquered North Africa and pushed into Europe, where it ruled in Sicily, Spain, Portugal, and parts of France. Twice, the forces of Islam laid siege to Vienna. For 1,000 years, Islam advanced and Christendom retreated.

As Pope Benedict XVI explains in his book Without Roots, the very concept of "Europe" emerged as a reaction to the surge of Islam. Not until the failure of the second Turkish siege of Vienna in 1683 did the Islamic tide recede definitively.

[Link: www.philly.com...]

189 DP111  Sun, Oct 1, 2006 5:24:20am

I've been predicting a civil war in Europe, and now in North America as well, as the process of dhimmification in the US is goling just as fast, but that will take some time. A civil war requires that the protagonists are somewhat matched in power and numbers. That would mean living in this state of constant vigilance and insecurity for another 30 years or more. We just dont have the luxury for that. Besides civil life will come to an end long before then.

A revolution - that is what is required, to knock out all the silly sixties and seventies PC multiculteralist detritis off the street. This also means a recognition that Islam and the West are mutually and dangerously incompatible. Its like sodium and water - bring the two together and an explosion occurs. An explosion will hurt everybody, and that is not what I want to see happen.

Once Muslims are back in dar al islam, we can become good friends, as neighbours ought to be. But living together is really not on.

190 Minion  Sun, Oct 1, 2006 5:33:53am

Its time to purge.

191 DP111  Sun, Oct 1, 2006 5:40:59am

From the Sunday Times

While the anti-terror squad and MI5 have got the hang of putting violent Islamists on the back foot, perhaps it is time for a bit of stick rather than endless carrots, particularly as all Britons may be about to be penalised if America rescinds its visa waiver scheme with the UK because of the problem of the dual nationality of our jihadists.

Let’s start by toughening up procedures for people leaving as well as entering this country, until they can demonstrate that they are going to a wedding in Baluchistan rather than advanced bomb-making with Al-Qaeda. Why not introduce bans, not just on radical imams but also on the murky foreign financing of Islam? Saudi Arabians do not permit Christian worship in their kingdom, yet they are allowed to finance Salafist/ Wahhabi mosques here.

Sophisticates claim that faith schools enable the government to monitor what is taught. That smacks of the complacency that allowed a ragtag and bobtail of Islamist radicals to set up shop in “Londonistan” on the presumption of a “pact of security” that would insulate their naive hosts. We need schools which teach respect for the culture of Shakespeare, Bach, Raphael and Rubens, not places that favour the limited horizons of a transplanted Third World village.

Instead of pandering to “the communities” that multiculturalism has incarnated, Ruth Kelly, secretary of state for communities and local government, might be better employed erasing its heavy institutional footprints in education and local government. Let’s have some “unity” officers, versed in what makes this country so attractive for those people who traverse continents to live here. Why is welfare being doled out to people who daily express their hatred of us?

If politicians do not demonstrate the necessary firmness to deal with what huge numbers of British people — white and black, Christian, Hindu, Sufi, Sikh or Jew — are terrified by, it might not be Islamofascists that we have most to worry about.

Fjordman

I hope America cancels the visa waiver program for Britain.

The last line in this essay portends trouble ahead- serious trouble.

192 kabu  Sun, Oct 1, 2006 6:42:10am

CNN are soafreid from the muslims so they do much every thing to hide the true violence islam and keep telling us that it is our fault our children being bombed by muslims fanatic! no excuse for terror no excuse for lie!


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