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Mon, Oct 2, 2006 at 3:20:59 pm PDT

The jihad against Pope Benedict XVI is not over; if there’s one thing Islamic extremists are good at, it’s carrying a major grudge for a really long time (centuries in some cases): LET Issues Fatwa to Kill Pope. (Hat tip: Samantha.)

Acting on behalf of the International Islamic Front (IIF) for Jihad Against the Crusaders and the Jewish People, which is headed by Osama bin Laden, the Markaz-ud-Dawa (MUD) of Pakistan, which is the political wing of the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LET), is reported to have issued a Fatwa calling upon the Muslims to kill Pope Benedict XVI for a recent speech of his delivered on September 12,2006, which has been projected as anti-Islam by Al Qaeda and other jihadi terrorist organisations of the world.

2. The issue of the MUD fatwa came a few days before the latest video message of Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden’s No.2, in which he has made a severe attack on the Pope.

3. A report on the the MUD Fatwa to kill the Pope has been carried by the Pakistani journal “Ausaf” in its issue dated September 18,2006. It has reported as follows:

“Pakistan’s Jamaat-ud-Dawa has issued a Fatwa asking the Muslim community to kill Pope Benedict for his blasphemous statement about Prophet Mohammad. The Jamaat-ud-Dawa has declared death to Pope Benedict and said that in today’s world blasphemy of the Holy Koran and the Prophet has become a fashion. The leaders of the Jamaat were speaking at a Martyrs’ Islamic Conference in Karachi. Prominent Jamaat leader Hafiz Saifullah Khalid said that in the present circumstances, jehad has become obligatory for each Muslim. Muslims are being declared terrorists and our battle for survival has already started. The Muslim world has rejected the Pope’s apology and decided to continue protests and demonstrations in big cities. The Pope’s apology is just a drama and no political leader has any power to pardon him. It is part of a crusade initiated by the US in the name of terrorism. Instead of accepting fake apologies, Muslims should realise Europe’s enemity towards Islam and Muslim Ummah should prepare itself to defend its faith. Jamaat-ud-Dawa leader Hafiz Abdur Rahman Makki said the West and Europe have started a campaign against the Holy Koran and the Prophet and have abused jehad. We should take appropriate steps to deal with the champions of crusade. It is time for Muslim leaders to open their eyes and understand that the West had never been a friend of the Muslims and will never be so.”

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1 jrdroll  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:22:58pm

Fatwa this worshippers of the Arab Moondog Allen(piss on him)

2 zombie  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:23:09pm

Time for the Pope to calle for a Crusade in response.

3 Jaggedskye  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:24:42pm

#2 zombie

and may he do it soon.

4 jrdroll  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:26:32pm

This should be handed out to all Christians this Sunday.

5 JKWEST  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:27:12pm

I'm up for a crusade!

ulululululululu!

6 Jaggedskye  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:28:17pm

...and I'm still hoping for St. George to ride in and declare there's a new sherrif in town, the Pope can bless him and send him on a rightous crusade.

/warning... mixed metaphors... :-)

7 1560 SHP  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:28:41pm
"...the West and Europe have started a campaign against the Holy Koran and the Prophet and have abused jehad. We should take appropriate steps to deal with the champions of crusade. It is time for Muslim leaders to open their eyes and understand that the West had never been a friend of the Muslims and will never be so.”

Oh. WE started it. Silly me. I thought it had to do with embassy attacks, the USS Cole, the WTC attacks...

8 martelbrigade  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:28:42pm

Promises promises.

9 flipflop  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:29:02pm

Damn...I want a fatwa too!

10 ZionistYoungster  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:36:24pm
Acting on behalf of the International Islamic Front (IIF) for Jihad Against the Crusaders and the Jewish People, which is headed by Osama bin Laden, the Markaz-ud-Dawa (MUD) of Pakistan, which is the political wing of the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LET)

I'm reminded of The Life of Brian for some odd reason...

11 BingoBunny  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:39:21pm

What do fatwa's go for on ebay,, is there a seperate religious war section? Is it printed out like a college diploma or is it a scan quality copy thinge? Do dueling fatwa's exist.. is it like the last date is in effect? Where can we in the west learn more about collecting fatwa's?

/PS can congress make a museum of fatwa someplace that needs tourists
/pss make sure we can wear shoes there< I'd hate to travel all that way and have to take my shoes off to see them

12 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:40:28pm

Can we please issue a fatwa against all Muslims? Damn idolaters worshiping Muhammad and Ali and the rest of them. Time to purify the faith.

13 American Soldier  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:41:13pm
4. In his video message disseminated through the Internet on September 29,2006, Zawahiri called Pope Benedict XVI a "charlatan" and stated that the Pope "accused Islam of being incompatible with rationality while forgetting that his own Christianity is unacceptable to a sensible mind."


You can't make this stuff up. Sounds like religious war to me. Or, if you will, Apocalypse Now.
http://herbertsobel.blogspot.com/2006/07/end-game. html

14 6patrick6  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:41:50pm

It's time for a good 'ol fashioned Crusades revival, 21st Century-style. The Islamanics want to play with their clubs and car bombs, fine. We can blow them back into the Paleolithic Era, reeeal easy.

15 machiavelligz  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:42:33pm

"International Islamic Front (IIF) for Jihad Against the Crusaders and the Jewish People, which is headed by Osama bin Laden, the Markaz-ud-Dawa (MUD) of Pakistan"

Every time I read about I read about the Muslim terrorist group, MILF, in the Phillipines ([Link: counterterrorismblog.org...] I snicker : ) Yeah, I'm a perv : ) I've always wanted to email the guys over at the CounterTerrorism Blog and tell them their MILF stories almost bring me to tears sometimes LOL!

Anyway, if they can have silly names like IIF and MUD, how about another MILF? "Muslims Issuing Looney Fatwas"

16 Timbre  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:42:40pm

Apparently, Jihadists were so forced fed Qur'anic, Hadithic, and anti-Infidelic studies at the corner madrassa, they forgot to learn: "Be careful what you ask for...you just may get it."

17 6patrick6  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:42:45pm

PIMF --- Islamaniacs

18 mot  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:47:21pm

Hafiz, I do believe the catholics are gonna double dog dare ya on this one!

19 Clutch  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:47:26pm

But Islam is a peaceful religion! Yeah, peace of the grave for daring to slander their prophet (piss 'n napalm be upon him. Or alternatively "may a pig mount upon him", not like that would happen, since there are somethings even a pig won't do).

20 shug  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:47:53pm

Jihad is the Hump of Islam

21 samhein  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:51:30pm

These people have their turbans on a bit too tight!

I'm not Catholic, but geeze...this is ridiculous.

These morons shouted for apologies. Basically, the pope did, although most sane, reasonable people realized he had nothing to apologize for. And he keeps saying he meant nothing by what he said, it was being taken wrong. Which, again, he should not be having to do anyway.

Does the "Peaceful" religion accept this? Hell no! They keep going and going with their mad rants and raves.

Now This?

When are world leaders, including our own in the US, admit as to how dangerous Islam is and the brakes have to be put on now. Doesn't this little act of "peacefulness" put any light on to the subject? At all?

If I hear someone in this admistration or any Muslim say one more time that Islam is the religion of peace, I'm gonna lose it.

22 yesandno  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:51:31pm

I fear for the Pope.

But I am sure the Pope is ready, in the spiritual sense, for all they befalls him.

But I am selfish...I don't want to have to grieve for him and Fallaci in the same year...


And all for truth...does the rest of the world even recognize it any more?

23 Spiny Norman  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:52:57pm

#10 ZionistYoungster

Acting on behalf of the International Islamic Front (IIF) for Jihad Against the Crusaders and the Jewish People, which is headed by Osama bin Laden, the Markaz-ud-Dawa (MUD) of Pakistan, which is the political wing of the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LET)

I'm reminded of The Life of Brian for some odd reason...

I thought we were the Popular Front.

PEOPLE'S Front! ...Gah! ::spit::

Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?

He's over there.

SPLITTER!

24 Timbre  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:53:02pm

#7 1560 SHP:

Another chrono-fact I like to remind the Islamaniacs is that the PLO was created 3 years before Israel ever "occupied" the West Bank and Gaza.

25 leftout  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:53:37pm

A fatwa here
A fatwa there
Here a fat
There a fat
Everywhere a fat ta wa
Ah ooh

26 Confuzed  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:55:06pm

Defense=definitely lose
Offense=possibly win
Impossible to win a war/battle by only being defensive.
Offense is needed while it can be mustered or else the defenses will eventually be overrun resulting in either surrender (dhimmitude) or slaughter (a good 'ol beheading will teach the infidels).
They're going to push too far and when it happens, I feel sorry for the non-infidels.

27 SlapLeather  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:55:43pm

Oh...oh...oh! I get it!

(LET)'s dialogue?

28 American Soldier  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:56:18pm

BTW- don't forget that from Pakistan came the call to fire the Pope:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=2267 1&only

29 PETN Sandwich  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:56:23pm

They better watch their jihadi asses lest the Albino Monk Corps be unleased.

30 Timbre  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:58:01pm

#25 Leftout

...ole bin Laden had a farm, the Tarnac Fatwa Farm!

31 Geepers  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:58:31pm

Confuzed (#26),

Are you a Minnesota Vikings fan?

I'm pretty certain the "prevent defense" lost every game it was ever used in.

"Hey, we're kicking the shit out of them. Let's change tactics."

32 shug  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 1:58:43pm

25 leftout

A fatwa here
A fatwa there
Here a fat
There a fat
Everywhere a fat ta wa
Ah ooh


old Mohammed had a farm

eee i eee i ooo

33 neverpayretail  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:00:45pm

Looks to me like they claim here that freedom of speech threatens the survival of Islam. They recognize that "defense of the faith" requires elimination of freedom of speech, and all the pope did was quote the words of a historical figure.

As I see it, they acknowledge two deadly threats to Islam - education and freedom. I agree with their assessment.

So, let's continue the education. Let's be free with our ridicule and satire that arises from education. Whatever they are afraid of is good for us.

34 cabinsue  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:00:57pm

yawn...wake me when they have something new to say. They should print a fatwa handbook that we can all refer to without listening to all their blather. They can then call a #9 on the Pope, it would save us a lot of time.

35 rcris5  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:01:20pm

Send those monkeys a few million sheep to abuse and the Jeeehad will end post-pronto.

36 Enkidu  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:06:49pm

It is time for Muslim Western leaders to open their eyes and understand that the West Muslims had never been a friend of the Muslims West and will never be so.

37 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:06:51pm

The Swiss Guards, while wearing uniforms a shade too fancy for the 21st Century, are, from what I've heard, well trained and equipped with automatic weapons.

38 EmeraldLakeEyes  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:07:34pm

OT Sorry.

Has anyone seen BabbaZee on the threads today?

39 Isabella3  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:08:02pm

Psychopaths! We need to have a crusade & wipe these islamic terrorists off the face of the earth! They are not hurting Israel or the Pope! I'm nondenominational Christian and I'm not going to let them hurt a real man of God!

Who's with me?

40 Catttt  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:08:36pm

I'm getting tired of this. Christians are getting tired of being killed, dissed, blamed for everything, annoyed, and having their churches torched.

Declear the crudase and be unite!

Anyway, this fatwa was issued by a group whose name is MUD. Phooey on them. Back atcha!

41 Catttt  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:09:40pm

38 EmeraldLakeEyes

Yes, she was here earlier, but signed off a couple hours ago until tomorrow.

42 redstate cowboy  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:10:02pm

I wonder - could the President of the U.S. set a policy (via XO, etc.) that stated that any person who in the course of the "war on terror" issues a public fatwa calling for the immediate execution of an American citizen, or a non-American taking up refuge in America, can be classified by the DOD as an enemy combatant and dealt with accordingly? (hint - 500 pound bomb, etc.).

I don't expect this to happen, at least in the short term. But unless I am missing something, this policy would not appear to be at odds with the Administration's current "mantra" that Islam is a "religion of peace." Ergo, it could be easily argued that any such "fatwas" are deliberate acts of terror arising from a mere "minority of extremists."

If there was a price to be paid personally for issuing a death fatwa, a lot fewer fatwas would be issued by these cowards.

I realize that this would need to be carefully tailored, but I am dealing at this point at a more general level - would the principle idea work? I also would expect the far left to object strenuously to any such policy - but on the basis that they want the right to continue to issue their own calls for death.

43 IowaInfidel  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:10:35pm
The leaders of the Jamaat were speaking at a Martyrs’ Islamic Conference in Karachi. Prominent Jamaat leader Hafiz Saifullah Khalid said that in the present circumstances, jehad has become obligatory for each Muslim. Muslims are being declared terrorists and our battle for survival has already started.

1. WTF? A martyr's conference? They actually have conferences for martyrs? Is there no end to their idiocy?

2. The key to their survival is simple - stop blowing up and killing people who aren't muslim!


How stupid are these people?

44 Geepers  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:10:45pm

What the hell is going on American Soldier?

MIBYABFATHWYDINO?

45 mingjaiyo  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:10:56pm

I would believe that if this fatwa were to ever be successfully carried out,the muslim world wouldn't know what hit it.Even I as an atheist(raised Methodist) I could not imagine Catholics around the world taking the murder of their highest held religious leader with nothing more than responses of "forgiveness" and "turning the other cheek".And,I would not blame them for feeling horrified nor for taking severe action,somehow,either.This blatant level of intolerance is beyond the pale-I do not confront any person about their beliefs.I have chosen my path and others have chosen theirs.As long as your belief system does not include such barbarities as human or animal sacrifice,I really couldn't care less what anybody chooses to believe in.The fact is none of us know-that is why belief is called faith.We can all get along in a "civilized" society.Actions like this fatwa against a leader of one of the worlds most followed religions just demonstrates to me that when dealing with the islamist,we are not dealing with a "civilized" society at all,but a primitive,barbaric society that is rapidly becoming a cancer in the Body Humanity and should be treated as such.

46 countrygurl  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:12:36pm

" The Pope’s apology is just a drama and no political leader has any power to pardon him."

This statment draws a good comparison between the nature of islam and the nature of Christianity.

Christians are required to forgive "seven times seven" when they are asked to forgive. Christians are not to carry a grudge. Or kill people who offend them. Christians are told to forgive others as God forgave them, and gave his life for them.

Islamists, on the other hand, carry grudges forever, and don't forgive even when asked. Seen any Christian "fatwas" issued lately for jokes and cartoons featuring the Son of God? I didn't think so.

47 shug  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:13:00pm
48 IowaInfidel  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:17:16pm
#42 redstate cowboy

Wow, that's a great idea! These vermin can hide in Pakistan because Pakistan is an "ally", but what if our policy was to target these assholes for assassination if they issue fatwas calling for the death of Americans? We tell Pervy "Hey, you can't control these peices of shit, be ready for the consequences. We're going after them."

That would be so cool, but, alas, I'm afraid we don't have the balls to do it.

49 Geepers  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:17:18pm

EmeraldLakeEyes (#38),

Charles has a handy search functions.

BabbaZee 10/2/2006 02:53PM PDT

That or get her phone number.

50 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:17:31pm

# 9 flip flop

Pretty soon all the cool people will have fatwas...

51 EmeraldLakeEyes  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:21:26pm

#41 Catt

Thank you very much for the response.

52 Lizard by the Bay  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:22:10pm

The Pope really shouldn't have called Muslims violent, because they're now going to peacefully slaughter him.

53 ZionistYoungster  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:24:23pm

#23 Spiny Norman

That would be the Democratic People's Islamic Jihad Salafi Front for the Liberation of the Occupied Territories and Justice, Caliphornia Chapter.

Seriously, you know, I recall there were quite a few Arab terrorist organizations with "Democratic" in their name just ten years ago. Nowadays it seems they've gone the way of the patriotic left-winger. No wonder, since, now that the fashion of pan-Arabism has faded in favor of pan-Islamism, the word "Democratic" would be like a red carpet in front of a bull's face--they'd get their fatwa just for that.

54 flipflop  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:27:24pm

#50 experiencedtraveller

Yeah, but when everyone has a fatwa, they won't be cool any more.

55 Havoc  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:27:34pm

Interesting observation:

f there’s one thing Islamic extremists are good at, it’s carrying a major grudge for a really long time (centuries in some cases): LET Issues Fatwa to Kill Pope.

Something Peter Lance noticed a long time ago, from a "Saying" in Yemen. So much so he titled a book ...

1,000 Years for Revenge

Interesting reading

but do you find notions like "1,000 Years for Revenge" for the Baptists ? the Hassidic Jews ? Roman Catholics ? Eastern Orthodox ? the Coptic Church ? Zen Budhists ? Shintoists ? Zoroasterianism ?

How about ... Mohammedans ... yeah they have it.

56 EmeraldLakeEyes  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:28:00pm

#49 Geepers

No comment.

57 IowaInfidel  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:28:40pm

OT about madrassas in Pakistan:

I read recently that in the madrassas in Pakistan, as we all know, students are required to memorize the koran. And again, as we all know, the koran must be read in arabic, it's true form. But people in Pakistan don't speak arabic! So they memorize the koran in arabic and don't even know what the f*ck it says! They're memorizing sounds!

Does anybody know if this is true?

And, no, I don't remember where I read that. Sorry...

58 Zardah  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:30:39pm

"fatwa" .. I swear, it sounds like a reject name from the Lucas script department.. (better not George, it might offend the overweight people) ... toss...

Muslim dumpster diver.. "hmmm now THIS sounds good!, yeah, we could USE this.. "

59 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:30:46pm

God protect the Pope.

60 Ranchero57  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:30:55pm

Millions of us American Catholics, North, Central and South, are gonna flip out, kiss our families goodbye and just plain go kill muslims if those assholes actually attempt to harm our Pope.

Jeez, these dogs have no idea what they're playing with here.

61 Idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:34:03pm

#37Ed of many consonants & almost as many vowels
You would be quite correct, the Swiss Gaurd would be dead to a man before a hair was touched upon the Holy Fathers head in todays enviornment.
Bettcha aint never got drunk in the Vatican though have ya?

62 MSMediacritic  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:39:33pm

I don't see why they are giving him a fatwa. They should start him with a thinwa and see if he likes it. Then, maybe...

63 jrdroll  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:40:32pm

Muslims howling at the Arab Moondog.

64 Zardah  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:43:27pm

#62 MSMediacritic

You're killing me here.. you just caused a gopher fet in the cube farm.. heads popping up all over to see who's splitting a gut..

65 NoSubmission  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:44:22pm

I bet there's even a fatwa on Charles and all us LGF Lizards!

66 hayseed  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:45:35pm

fatwa's have become a dime a dozen. the only thing is some stupid muslim will remember fatwa # 132.354 on the fatwa scale. is there a fatwa scale ? we really mean it man.

67 martelbrigade  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:45:55pm

You want this fatwa started now!

You want this fatwa started quickly!

68 code red 21  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:49:03pm

Nothing will happen to the Muslims if they kill the Pope. Life will go just like it is now because we are too civilized to act like them. We may talk a good game but which one of us is really going to go "Muslim" on the Muslims?

69 maddogg  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:51:47pm

Lets say, just for arguments sake, some POS actually carries out the fat-wa. What do you suppose will happen then?

70 Austin Conservative  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:51:48pm

I hereby issue a fatwa to kill the muslims who issued the fatwa to kill the Pope. The fatwa goes for all those who think about killing the Pope too.

Fatwa Off and die islamic terrorists!

71 humanity  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:52:26pm

At Last FATWA...
thanks this time india is not involved...

what i can say...I should give respect to religion of peice... which chop everyone in peices... and a respect to the prophet of religion of peice goes here

Prophet of religion of Peice... Mohammed(Piss be upon Him)

72 Zardah  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:53:31pm

You know, this gives me an idea.. how about a diet drink called "FATWA" .. the ad people should have a field day with the possibilities for the commercials! Something along the lines of those bank card "What's in YOUR wallet?" ones...

A friend could say, "Hey, let me issue YOU a Fatwa today!" (handing over a nice ice cold chocolate flavored can of Fatwa)"

Yeah.. I'm s u r e that wouldn't offend anyone...

73 maddogg  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:55:39pm

Lets say the Pope is murdered by some Islamic goat tamper, and this organization takes credit for it. Any predictions?

74 slaphappy  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:55:56pm

“Pakistan’s Jamaat-ud-Dawa has issued a Fatwa asking the Muslim community to kill Pope Benedict for his blasphemous statement about Prophet Mohammad."...

But I thought only extremist Muslim carried out such heinous acts...why ask the Muslim community Jamaat?...BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL KILLERS OF THE HUMAN RACE,a virus,so seething of hate from its host, that it may take Divine intervention to cure.

We keep fiddle-fartin around with these hand-jobbers and it just may be urban combat 101...I for one am prepared...IMHO

75 summergurl  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 2:57:13pm

We just don't get it do we? A fatwa on the Pope is only the beginning. They will not be satisfied until we all are dead or converted to Islam. I just hope that we wake up before it's too late and we all are weaving prayer rugs. Complacency doesn't even begin to describe our attitude.. we get put out if Starbucks has more than four cars in line.

And guess what? THEY know that..

76 slaphappy  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:02:06pm

#68...Theres a little group in Ireland that may have something to say about the Popes untimely departure...cheers...

77 angst  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:03:07pm

I don't think the Pope's afraid. I think he was chosen to confront this very "problem" (along with the moral decay of old Europe).

It's not like people haven't tried to kill the Pope before. It's like being President- nut jobs that hate you go with the territory. Right ow Cheney's in town and the police and helicopters are driving me nuts. I think the Pope has better protection, though not so obvious.

It's always fun when Bush & Cheney come to town. We don't normally get planes that big here. We love 'em almost as much as when the fighter jets stop by for a quick fill 'er up.

78 Havoc  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:05:57pm

Zombie:

As I recall, the REASONS for the first crusades largely were a call for defense against the ongoing attacks against Christians making pilgrimage to Bethlehem and Jerusalem, as well as the usual sacking, pilaging raping of Christian cities bordering the Mediterranean.

All the PC History overpopulation of Europe tripe along with a few nobles looking for riches, (hardly) that only came later and only to a very few.

So ...

... if you and I make a pilgrimage to say ... Bethlehem this Christmas and get attacked ... and survive ...

You think we can get the Pope to call another crusade to protect us and others like us ?

(You may have to convert to Catholicism I'm afraid, I know the girls at the Lusty Lady will try to talk you out of it, but you should think about it)

btw- I'm calling my neighbors to let out Trixie and Psycho the dobermands, in a crusade against the fornicating deer eating my rosebush out back. It's mating season and the big bucks are chasing their women night and day, it's almost as bad as freshman week at Cal Berkeley.

No killer deer on Orinda so far this season yet.

79 neverquit  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:06:28pm

ISLAM: "HOW DARE YOU CALL ISLAM VIOLENT, WE'RE GOING TO KILL YOU FOR THAT"

80 little boomer  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:10:26pm

I wouldn't reccomend this LET...

2005-"Today's second collection is for the Victims of Hurricane Katrina."

2006-"Today's second collection is for the 9th Crusade."

81 Odinist  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:12:02pm

LOL!

This is a great thread, my sides hurt!

#73 maddogg

On a more serious note, I think we all know what would happen. The clergy would call for the turning of the cheek, while the Catholic population would probably lash out at any and all Muslims.

I dare to think it willl never happen, but Pope's DO travel to nasty places...

82 Nobody's Dhimmi  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:13:44pm

#78
Lusty lady? How many Seattlites are on here, anyway?

83 Bad Penny  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:15:20pm
A friend could say, "Hey, let me issue YOU a Fatwa today!" (handing over a nice ice cold chocolate flavored can of Fatwa)"

Or we could turn it into a derogotory slang, as in "Man it smells in here? Did somebody issue a fatwa?"

84 Racer X  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:16:25pm

Islam = The Religion of Peace?

or

Islam = The Cult of Death!


/make fun of us and we keeel you!

85 BenZ's Bat  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:17:19pm

#77 angst

Be glad the POTUS or Vice POTUD doesn't come to your part of the world often. I live outside of Columbus, OH and work not too far from the airport, everytime he come to town you have rolling roadblocks on the freeways. I'm glad he like to come to Columbus so often, but when he decides to land and travel right at rush hour it makes everyone seethe with road rage(why can't he just chopper over to his destination, it would be faster and, IMHO, safer).

Way OT
I think multiple 4th quarter pass interceptions should become a buckeye tradition.

86 BenZ's Bat  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:18:53pm

Vice POTUD=Vice POTUS
PIMF
PIMF
PIMF

87 maddogg  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:19:28pm

#81 Odinist
Sure it could Happen. The last Pope was nearly killed. Do you think anyone who would strap bombs on their children and send them out to detonate would be hindered by any type of fear of Catholic retribution?
Remember, anyone can be gotten to. Nobody is infallible. I suspect they will try. As to the consequences, I don't have a clue. I no longer have that much faith in people standing up to these camel bonkers, they are too busy worrying about if Paris Hilton can actually go a year without screwing.

88 SnowDawg  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:20:53pm

Just so you get the message stupid mr pope. Islam is a religion of peace. To prove how serous we are about this we are going to drop a fatwa on your @$$

/Jihadist off

89 Nobody's Dhimmi  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:23:05pm

#83
HAAA

I'm using that one. Thanks!

90 400lb gorilla  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:23:46pm

I want a fatw at my house
I want a fat twat at my house.
These guys are such pussies I guess I got confused.

Stop ISLAMIFESTATION NOW

91 Nobody's Dhimmi  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:26:45pm

#72 Photoshop a Fanta bottle...

92 Toonman  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:29:01pm

#87

Not to nitpick, but.. :)

Nobody is invincible. The Pope is infallible.

93 maddogg  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:30:39pm

#92 Toonman
That ain't exactly the point.

94 code red 21  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:31:20pm

#76 slaphappy


What little group in Ireland are talking about?

95 rope_a_pope  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:31:21pm

How can I fight them without a horse?

96 Odinist  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:32:34pm

#87 maddogg

Yes, I also think it could happen... but hope it doesn't.

I think it would open up a whole new series of crusades, and if you look back on them, most were utter failures. In the effort of freeing the 'Holy Land' at any rate, not to mention the pogroms on the Jews, and the slaughter of any unrepentant pagans, they happened across.

97 Toonman  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:34:15pm

#94
Sorry, I thought the point was that the Pope is not invincible, he could be killed and there is no way of telling what would happen afterwords.

-Didn't mean to step on your toes.

98 Toonman  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:36:42pm

Oops. That last comment was directed to #93.

99 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:38:46pm

Fuck you, Osama, and the goat that begat you.

100 RedWhiteAndJew  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:39:02pm

In a sane world, a death sentence, coming from such high echelons in islamist society, issued against the single most recognizable religious leader of the western world, would mean that the Kult of Mo had definitely jumped the shark, and is now on the civilized worlds...excrement list.

/shame we don't live in a sane world...

101 rtheyserius  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:40:01pm

All fatwa and no bite.

102 Odinist  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:40:08pm

#92 Toonman

Sorry to disagree, but I don't believe the pope is infallible OR invincible...

I still pray to the gods for his safety, though. I'd hate to live through the outcome of his murder at the hands of Jihadis... I'm not ready for Ragnarok yet!

103 maddogg  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:41:54pm

#94 Toonman
Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary:
Infallible: Def. 1 incapable of error.
So, I stand uncorrected. He is Human and therefore capable of error. I will comment no more on this.

104 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:44:27pm

And, if your daddy was a goat, then what was your momma', ya' mangy, rangy mutt?

105 Stop Hillary  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:45:15pm

#76 slaphappy -- "Theres a little group in Ireland that may have something to say about the Popes untimely departure...cheers..."

What little group would that be? The Unionists/Protestants in Northern Ireland will probably dance in the streets. The IRA are no fan of the Pope. They strike me as a bunch of Marxists and probably see the Church as an impediment to the fulfillment of their wishes for an Ireland united under some communist/socialist government.

I think the clergy in Ireland had better start copying books again. The way things are going, we may need them again to save Western Civilization.

106 angst  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:46:25pm

#85 Ben Z's Bat
Well, they don't come around so often now that our good Guv'ner is a Democrat and they hustled our old one off to Washington to get them both re-elected (yes, you can thank a Montanan for that). But I guess the Senatorial battle is tight so even we get a little attention now and then.

Of course, if the next set are Democrats, we won't see 'em at all. Hostile territory and all that. But, I don't mind a little roadblock now and then, it just makes rush hour last an actual hour, and it's very exciting since most of the celebs blown on by to Jackson Hole. We're so far out in the middle of nowhere, they couldn't chopper here, though. Have to take a fixed wing- even our hospital has both an airplane & helicopter.

But, we'll never see the Pope. Too damn many Lutherans.

107 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:46:29pm

My knickers are in a twist and the sun's not even set yet. I'm hitting the shower...a cold shower.

108 RedWhiteAndJew  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:47:00pm

#104 MandyManners

Now now, Mandy. I've known many mutts in my time, and they were better people than some people I've known.

Osama does not come from such premium stock, to be sure.

109 neverquit  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:47:36pm

All your fatwa are belong to us?

110 wiseoldfool  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:49:41pm

Other than a nuclear attack on a western European city, the murder (or attempted murder) of the pope would be the one event that would unite the entire west against Islam.

111 6patrick6  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:49:44pm

#50 experienced traveller

But, wouldn't it be cool to be the first kid on the block with his very own fatwa!?

Or - "I went on the Jihad diet and lost 150 pounds of ugly fatwa in three milliseconds!"

Or - Wife to husband - "Does this dress make me look fatwa?"

Or - Clint Eastwood - "Make my fatwa!"

Or - President Clinton - "I did not have sex with that fatwa, Miss Lewinsky!"

112 Odinist  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:50:10pm

#105 Stop Hillary (Right on with the nic!)

I think, being a dumb American and ignorant of current IRA policy, that the Irish (half at least) might take offence to killing their Pope. This would make it a political issue, thereby drawing out the radical IRA elements into the struggle.

Just my uninformed opinion of course!

113 zardah  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:52:57pm

Thank goodness nobody has had the distaste to make a joke of the Pontiff being beheaded with a certain farm implement of old..

My esteem of LGF is preserved! whew..

114 new2thezoo  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:53:06pm

Let's all send a Christmas card and a MohammedBobbleHead to the IIF.

115 zardah  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:55:13pm

and thank goodness nobody made any urban jokes about 'yo mamma's so fat, waaa'

116 400lb gorilla  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:57:53pm

# 110

And then they would ALL BE DEAD DEAD DEAD, No Virgins, no allah no akbar, no singlesbar, no gay bar. just worms eating thier empty skulls

117 SevoGuy  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 3:58:55pm

I want to cleanse AMERICA of the islamic/islamist pigs. Please, some moderate, rightous muslims, condemn these dogs, who in the name of your God issue these Fartwas.

If some muslim group does not surface, and surface soon, I will be against all muslims coming to America. And the ones that are here now...I will do everything in my power to convert you to the true faith. Christ Jesus.

118 rickl  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:00:05pm
#42 redstate cowboy 10/2/2006 04:10PM PDT

I wonder - could the President of the U.S. set a policy (via XO, etc.) that stated that any person who in the course of the "war on terror" issues a public fatwa calling for the immediate execution of an American citizen, or a non-American taking up refuge in America, can be classified by the DOD as an enemy combatant and dealt with accordingly? (hint - 500 pound bomb, etc.).

I don't expect this to happen, at least in the short term. But unless I am missing something, this policy would not appear to be at odds with the Administration's current "mantra" that Islam is a "religion of peace." Ergo, it could be easily argued that any such "fatwas" are deliberate acts of terror arising from a mere "minority of extremists."

If there was a price to be paid personally for issuing a death fatwa, a lot fewer fatwas would be issued by these cowards.


I've been advocating something similar for quite a while. I'd like it even better if it were covert instead of overt. I'd like to see radical imams all over the world start to suffer fatal "accidents".

Why not terrorize the terrorists?

119 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:01:08pm

A song that always lifts my spirits.



Axl rocks!

120 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:03:23pm
#108 RedWhiteAndJew

Now now, Mandy. I've known many mutts in my time, and they were better people than some people I've known.

Osama does not come from such premium stock, to be sure.

'Tis true, and I offer my apologies to "mutts" who are of the canine persuasion. However, I'm thinking of a mutt who is half goat and half whatever.

Does Islam have any female demons?

121 maddogg  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:04:07pm

I've given this some thought, and for the life of me, I can't seem to think of a damned thing Pakistan if good for. Lets abolish it!

122 Odinist  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:04:58pm

Thanks MandyManners! Axl does truly rock...

But so does Ian! (just a different era!)

123 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:07:59pm

Something we may all want to do from time to time.

124 Toby Petzold  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:08:29pm

Didn't a Muslim almost kill the last Pope?

I can't think of anything that would more completely inflame the Catholic world than the assassination of the Holy Father by Islamist murderers. You'd have most of Latin America, Europe (even so!), large parts of Africa, the Philippines, and much of North America absolutely infuriated.

My advice to these Mohammedan savages? Think better of it, friends.

125 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:13:35pm

#73 maddog wrote:

Lets say the Pope is murdered by some Islamic goat tamper, and this organization takes credit for it. Any predictions?

They'd better be glad there are no mosques in the town I live in. I went to college in the UP at one of the non-idiotarian public universities in the country (I'll let you guess which one -- hence my "status" as honorary, I could also be called a native Troll for other reasons). I live in the largest city in Illinois without a mosque, and if they even lay a finger on Benedict, it could be very nasty for the mos. It's also a very Catholic town (approx 70%), and they've already put up with one of theirs being held capitve in the early 1980s in Beirut (a priest at that!). Nearest mosque is at least 8 miles north.

I would speculate that some might organize marches to the various mosques and I suspect they wouldn't be for friendly reasons.

126 maddogg  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:14:00pm

I'm sure this will date me, but I like T-Rex.

127 SevoGuy  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:14:40pm

I've always wondered how I could show my support for those brave Christians in Africa who fight Satan on a daily basis. By Satan I am referring to those muslims who want to fill Christians and establish Shia'ra Law in those countries where wholesale slaughter of Christians occurs.

How can my donated money be used to buy them weapons, ammunition, food and clothing? Are there any organizations out there that actually supply these very brave Christians. The muslim forces are very well supplied by the petrodollars they receive from other countries that have the oil.

Anyone with this info should share it.

128 zardah  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:18:08pm

fatwa

a/1 b/2 c/3 d/4 e/5 f/6 g/7 h/8 i/9 j/10 k/11 l/12 m/12 n/13 o/14 p/15 q/16 r/17 s/18 t/19 u/20 v/21 w/22 x/23 y/24 z/25

broken down by alphabet numbers (in order) you get:

fatwa
6+1+19+22+1=49

pope
15+14+15+5=49

ok, that's just freaky..


I'll quit there..

129 Odinist  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:21:06pm

#126 maddogg

I know those guys!


And since we are on a musical theme:

This is how far we need to go on the WOT/WIII/Afgan/Iraqi/etc...

THE DISTANCE!

130 maddogg  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:21:30pm

#127 ServoGuy
I don't know of any organizations donating arms to Christians for self defence. Maybe I should ask the NRA. I remember those commercials for CARE when I was a kid, where they were handing out farming tools to people in Africa. "A hand, not a handout" I think was their motto. I'd like to see the same advertizement with them handing out AK-47s and ammo boxes. Would do my heart good, and its their only chance, I believe.

131 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:21:38pm

#126 maddogg,

"Bang a Gong, Get It On". How appropriate.

Sounds like the beginning of a WWF match or Battlebots (remember those): "Let's get ready to ruuummble!" To be we can't just stick them in a lexon box together.

132 rickl  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:24:55pm

#128 zardah

M should be 13.

This makes fatwa 6+1+20+23+1=51

pope 16+15+16+5=52

133 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:34:18pm
#122 Odinist

(just a different era!)

A different era? Nah. I go from CSNY to Donna Summers to The Clash to the Outlaws/Marshall Tucker Band to Matchbox 20. (I'm sure there are more current bands but my seeth-addled brain cannot recall them at the moment.)

134 Odinist  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:34:21pm

#128 zardah

Nah, Numerology uses this breakdown:

a i q j y =1
b k r =2
c g l s =3
d m t =4
e h n =5
u v w x =6
o z =7
f p=8

In one version at least...

135 sss111  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:39:37pm

So tey want to kill the Pope because he said Islam is violent, and hoe dare a dhimmi say something (true) like that.

Dear Islamists:

We are not your dhimmis, we're never going to be your dhimmis, and your religion is not special but one of many: and not a very nice one at that.

136 Odinist  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:41:19pm

#133 MandyManners

Something mello for your seethe-addled brain!

137 EE  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:41:38pm

Incitement to religious murder is a hate crime. These murder fatwas constitute public incitement to religious murder. Interpol should be notified to round up these religious murderers and inciters to religious murder.

The Pope didn't say anything that wasn't true. In a lecture on reason and faith, he quoted a Byzantine emperor who, facing an army of saracens waging jihad, noted that Mohammed commanded the spread of his faith by the sword. If the quote is correct, then the Pope did not saying anything inaccurate.

Some people are drawing the conclusion that Islam is inherently violent. No, not from what the Pope said; from the reaction of segments of the Muslim world. These murderous fanatics are the ones putting Islam in disrepute. They don't care about that, though. Their purpose is intimidation, and they don't particularly care about what people think, as long as the intimidation works.

138 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:42:38pm

#127 SevoGuy


I've always wondered how I could show my support for those brave Christians in Africa who fight Satan on a daily basis. By Satan I am referring to those muslims who want to fill Christians and establish Shia'ra Law in those countries where wholesale slaughter of Christians occurs.

How can my donated money be used to buy them weapons, ammunition, food and clothing? Are there any organizations out there that actually supply these very brave Christians. The muslim forces are very well supplied by the petrodollars they receive from other countries that have the oil.

Anyone with this info should share it.

Thanks to the U.N., I don't think there is any way to supply non-Muslims with munitions. Hell, just getting food to them has proven to be difficult. Remember the Ethiopia famine of the 1980s? It was caused by Marxism, sanctioned by the U.N..

Here's an idea: the world governments really don't give a shit about Africa now that the Cold War is over. Even during the Cold War, the tribal troubles were exploited to meet the needs for a proxy war.

Hell, the West fucked up Africa during the post-colonial period when it shedded its territories. As small as it is, Belgium did a lot of damage.

Those powers were European but, the U.S. gets a lot of blame. Why? Because the post-colonial struggle involved the U.S.S.R..

Or, I could be absolutely wrong.

Whatever...Africa might be a lost cause.

139 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:46:34pm
#137 EE

Incitement to religious murder is a hate crime. These murder fatwas constitute public incitement to religious murder. Interpol should be notified to round up these religious murderers and inciters to religious murder.

/crickets.

8-(

140 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:49:29pm

#136 Odinist

Oh, thank you!

(((Odinist)))

141 CowardKerry  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:52:30pm

"It is time for Muslim leaders to open their eyes and understand that the West had never been a friend of the Muslims and will never be so.”

Well they sure know how we feel about them, why do some idiots in this country turn a blind eye to the fact they want to kill us?

142 Odinist  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 4:53:35pm

#138 MandyManners

Your are right as far as I know, however it goes back much further history than the post-colonial period. Just think of the damage the 'colonia'l period did- replacement of the know political structures and leaders and replacement with the King's/Queen's law?

And THEN the abandonment in the post colonial era. Leaving the people with a government to run that they know nothing about, or just plain going back to the old ways that the conquerors said were 'dead'.

No wonder some countries can't catch up to the rest of us...

/not an excuse, just an observation.

143 Odinist  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 5:09:36pm

PIMF- this SHOULD have read before a bad pasting incident...

#138 MandyManners

You are right as far as I know, however it goes back much further in history than the post-colonial period. Just think of the damage the 'colonia'l period did- replacement of the known political structures and leaders and replacement with the King's/Queen's law?

And THEN the abandonment in the post colonial era. Leaving the people with a government to run that they know nothing about, or the option of just plain going back to the old ways that the conquerors said were 'dead'.

No wonder some countries can't catch up to the rest of us...

/not an excuse, just an observation.

144 surfrider  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 5:14:07pm

I am not a catholic, nor do I support the Pope and his church. That being said, I am still astounded that Pope Benedict's statements were taken out of context and twisted. He's still a professor at heart and he was presenting ideas for contemplation and discussion. Pakis are to fatwas and threats of destruction, as a pig is to defecation. You can't have one without the other.

Just let India dispose of them and get this over and done with. Enough pandering to that primitive land and its faciasts.

145 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 5:16:07pm

#142 Odinist

Just think of the damage the 'colonia'l period did- replacement of the know political structures and leaders and replacement with the King's/Queen's law?

In their drive to build empires, the Western nations gulped up bites of land worse any Pac-Man!

However, when they left, the colonial powers could've left an educated, capitalist society in place. Which nations attemtped to do so in Africa?

146 Odinist  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 5:22:31pm

#145 Mandy Manners

None, zip. zero.

They left it a political wasteland, ready to be fought over at a later date. Past failures are coming to haunt us. I only hope we have learned and don't leave the ME as a war to be fought later as well...

147 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 5:23:29pm

There was a "breathing period" after the collapse of the Soviet Empire. Without the malignancy of Islam, how would Africa be faring today with their release from the clutches of the outside world (and I include the Colonial Powers as well as the proxy actors--the U.S., U.S.S.R. and China)?

148 adamthemadman  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 5:30:45pm

These twits are really in for it when they find out that the man who sits in the Holy See is no meek apostle of the faith. He is in fact a well armed and formidible fighter!

Behold! Battle Pope!

149 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 5:32:21pm

The situation in Southwest Asia (a/k/a Middle East) is a horse of another color, perhaps. The modern history of that region has been shaped directly by the nationalist movement. After (because of?) the breakdown of the Ottoman Empire, Europe started aligning itself by ethnicity.

Hence, the Nation of Israel.

150 countrygurl  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 6:04:20pm

#57 response to Iowa Infidel

Languages spoken in Pakistan: Urdu (national and official), English, Punjabi, Sindhi, Pushtu, Baloch, Hindko, Brahui, Saraiki (Punjabi variant).

I would imagine that those who are chosen/required to memorize the koran also learn Arabic. This would be necessary in order to understand and spread islam's "peaceful" violent purpose to the infidels and the ignorant peoples everywhere.

151 1560 SHP  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 6:18:27pm

#95 rope_a_pope

How can I fight them without a horse?



My daughter has one you could use.

Oh, crap--he's an Arabian!

152 ibu guru  Mon, Oct 2, 2006 6:34:30pm

There's already been an attempted assassination of a pope by an islamofascist - and the fact that Mehmet Ali Agca was muslim was largely buried or ignored by the media and most people. Since 1981, the islamofascists have become ever bolder and more murderous. If Benedict is assassinated, what makes us think the response will be much different than it was 25 years ago?

We have to ensure the response is different. Perhaps more people becoming aware of the murderous, domineering, world-conquest tenets of islam will help ensure a more vigorous response.

Never apologize for telling the truth. Benedict needed to stand more firmly. Up with this shite we will not put!

153 mpax  Tue, Oct 3, 2006 1:17:25am

I think Ben stood pretty firmly. And din't apologize, just said he respected Muslimsfor worshipping one God and was sorry he upset them. As for the meeting with Muslims, he sat on his throne, enrobed, and they stood before him and listened to a lecture.

154 DP111  Tue, Oct 3, 2006 5:14:12am
The leaders of the Jamaat were speaking at a Martyrs’ Islamic Conference in Karachi

Eh?


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