(Message from the DNC)

Nothing to see here. Move along now. Move along...

Love it when a plan comes together...

goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments

Then Foley should still be censured, for being a frickkin' idiot.

This is seriously effed up...

whos to blame though?

God help this country..

Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.

Tough noogies. I smell bossible CYA for blowback.

Foley Follies have jumped the shark. Democraps wail "Rooove! You magnificent bastard."

Karl Rove strikes again :)

Sorry but this scandal has legs. What in the heck is a congressman even doing sending emails like this to minors even if it were a prank. The bottom line is that a lot of people knew about Foley and his behavior for at least five years. They chose to do nothing. Where does the buck stop? Some of us who have kids are outraged about this. Where is the moral leadership?

#4...

I agree...hope that the persons that outed it will be highlighted as well..

This just cant get any stranger can it?

Think I'll start sending scanky missives to all the Dems. I bet Barney Frank responds with a florish to-boot. Snarff, laugh.

"bossible".

Fantastic spelling.

PIMF, out.

Isn't it mandatory to be a sexual predator in order to achieve high office in Washington ?

Or is that only for Democrats ?

I suggest invoking the 24 day rule on this stuff...

#14 religion of bacon
Not a bad idea.

#3 Occasional Reader 10/5/2006 12:38PM PDT

goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments

Then Foley should still be censured, for being a frickkin' idiot.

AMEN

Rush was asking why the page had secured a lawyer if he was just a victim. I wonder if he's going to sue the leakers or if he's waiting to get sued by Foley.

Ugly doings on the Hill. If my kid ever got offered the opportunity to be a page, I'd box the ears of the one doing the offering.

There is more to this or Foley would not have resigned. This one set may be a prank but he folded too fast. There is more out there. I do not think there is a cover up by the speaker or the party.

I hope this has consequences for those who made up this story.

Why do I get the feeling that this "admission" (if it is) won't be covered by the MSM because it isn't interesting anymore?

Color me pessimistic.

I just thought of a question. If the IM's were joke, then why on earth was the kid representing himself as being under 18?

Isnt there a story out there that said the kid was 18 at the time of the IM?

And if he was misreperesnting his age, why on earth would he do that? This is just to strange...

If anyone can give me the cliff notes version of this it would be appreciated...been so busy, that have been unable to get into the details of this.

This doesn't reduce Foley's stupidity, it just adds more stupidity, mendacity, and cynical manipulation to the mix.

If this whole scandal does anything to voter turnout, it will probably be an overall reduction rathern than a targeted one, as people just get sicker and sicker of "politics."

Hopefully the "blowback blowback blowback" phenomenon and how this spun out of control so fast will help convince cynical politicos that scandals just don't work as well as they used to.

What can I say, I'm an optimist.

Unless more comes out, the donx and the MSM have plausable deniability. They can say that they had no way to know that this was a setup.

The flip side is that IM logs are almost impossible to validate. If Foley had fought this, he'd have probably won, because he could claim they're fake, and the donx couldn't prove otherwise.

If a crime was committed, and he ended up in court having to testify under oath, it would be a different situation. But there's still no indication that any crimes were committed.

Dems rejoice: anything to keep national defense and the war against civilization off the front pages and newscasts. The more we focus on this crap, the less we talk about the most important differences between the parties.

Is somebody gonna offer Hastert a wafer thin mint?

#16 BZ:

I'm trying to imagine it... "hey, Congressman, how about typing some sexually explicit IM messages to a teenage boy, just, you know, for shits n' giggles?"

"I dunno... yeah, gee, why not."

my only question in light of Khomeni's blog about Ramadam and haram is;

rwz: "Is Foley's action intentional or unintentional haram?"

Khomeni: "infidel pig shares cyber bed with ...no one? haram. Stone him!"

Cool.

Now we can all get back to dealing with the peace-loving RoP.

If this is true (and I think it makes some sense), Foley got Punk'd. Hard. I can imagine a group of kids on the other end of the computer going hysterical with what Foley was typing. It also makes more sense for the IM's to have been saved in this case.

I'm not sure that this changes the scandal too much, though.

#8 MikeL

Outrage? What a Ma-roon...this is too funny. Turning out just as I planned...Bwaaahaha!

Can't wait for the rehab sob stories.

Apparently, Foley did not really want to run again. The GOP convinced him to. He just wanted to get out of Wahsington and quit living in the closet. I would suppose that he was glad to resign immediately,

This scandal may have legs, but it just got both of it's kneecaps taken out. The Dems can pursue this at their own risk, but it just reached the point where it's too stupid and complicted for the Average Joe to care about. That's not a slam at the AJ's, either. Sometimes I think they have more sense than us political types.

In summary, this scandal is done, stick a fork in it.

#22 Merovign

Hopefully the "blowback blowback blowback" phenomenon and how this spun out of control so fast will help convince cynical politicos that scandals just don't work as well as they used to.

I think most LLLs over the age of 40 still pine for the days of Watergate. The first, last, and only "gate" to ever slam shut on anyone.

Foley rolled over way too fast. There has to be something there.

I smell... wait for it... really, just wait for it...

a ROVIAN plot!

Just think about it: How many Democraps do you think are sleeping with underage pages? Now that the Democraps have screamed for an investigation, they'll get one -- but they WON'T like the results.

The House Committee has already said they will go "wherever the investigation leads them."

Actually heard a blurb about a Democrap involved with the page program saying that the Dems really don't want to go there, trying to shut up the Democrap leadership. He was ignored.

Yup, they sure jumped the shark on this one!

Dittos on the plan coming together. Going to be some sore donks. Looks like the Democrats gay witch hunt has run into some truth.

Since there is now an FBI criminal probe, I think we know why Jordan Edmund needed a lawyer. I will bet there will be quite a few that need lawyers before this is done.

#27: Khomeini thought all sex was ok, as long as it was done to a goat or a donkey, and then you sold the meat in another village.

Ahhh...the fruits of my labor.

THIS IS ALL THE WORK OF MY CABAL:

Babba (you haven't said yes yet, but I know you will)
Buzzsawmonkey
Black George Bush
Cattt

We move like lightening!

The bottom line is that a lot of people knew about Foley and his behavior for at least five years. They chose to do nothing.

I am not sure that anyone really could. The line between moral rectitude & gay-bashing is getting pretty thin. IMHO, the issue hinges on whether an actual crime is committed.

…Where is the moral leadership?

It sure the hell ain’t in Washington!

#29 ChenZhen

I'm not sure that this changes the scandal too much, though.

It doesn't change anything wrt Foley. It does change things wrt the demos and the MSM. This latest revelation is all about the demos and the MSM, and not about Foley.

How does someone get goaded into writing that stuff? He is still cooked.

Yeah, pages upon pages of sexually charged innuendo was just a prank? I don't think so. I don't understand why Charles is running stories on Foley, it has nothing to do with the WOT.

What the Fuck is going on here?

Ahora SI estoy confundido.
Que PUTA pasa aqui?

37 Fjordman

And no deliberate monkey spanking during Ramadan.

This is just getting weirder by the minute. OK, where's the Evil MR. Spock (the one with a beard). Maybe he's behind this fiasco.

/when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro

#30 rcris5:

Yeah. I am outraged. I'm not sure where you live but I get pretty outraged about a 52 year old man sending sexually explicit emails/IMs to kids who are 16 or 17 or even 18. It's not right--period. If you can't understand that, then you've got real problems. Plenty of what are called "values voters" these days understand this story because it's not hard to understand. A member of Congress sent sexually explicit emails to kids. That's wrong. On the whole spectrum of sexual abuse, it's not as bad as molesting a five year old. But it's still bad. Maybe you don't have kids. Maybe you just don't understand.

And by the way, I think the word "moron" is spelled "moron"--not "Ma-roon" or whatever assisine spelling you used.

Get a moral compass or STFU.

Apparently, Drudge is reporting, this whole sorry story is a prank. Hope that's true. The technology involved has gone beyond the ability of the MSM to understand, much less report on. For crying out loud, I've heard them report that it was e-mails, when it was instant messages they meant. They have no clue how a print out of an instant message "session" is hardly the same as having the full header information on an e-mail. Hope they learn a lesson. ABC - you listening?

The Democrats will create another scandal by tomorrow to distract from this one.

Totally irrelevant! It is the seriousness of the charges that matters.

/LLL mode

#38 Ben Hur
When do we use the weather control machine?

#35 me

This makes even more sense in view of (1) Foley apparently didn't really want to run again, so he fell on the sword to sucker the Dems, and (2) just think who the party of NAMBLA is...

So this is like the third excuse that's been floated publicly by someone involved with this story?

Foley: I'm an alcoholic.

Foley: I was a victim of clergy abuse.

Pageboy: Oh, and by the way, the whole thing was a prank gone awry...

Up next...

Pageboy: We knew he was gay, so we got him drunk, and I IMmed him pr0n until he begged for mercy.

Foley: See, I was a victim after all!

#43 bbcrackmonkey

I don't understand why Charles is running stories on Foley, it has nothing to do with the WOT.

You're missing the point. This isn't about Foley. It's about politics and the media. And politics and the media have everything to do with the WOT.

You don't think Ra^thergate had anything to do with the WOT?

If this were just a prank then why did Foley:

1) Resign immediatley?
2) Claim to have been molested as a child?
3) Blame his problems on alcoholism?
4) Have multiple chat logs with multiple people, some under 18, all filled with highly charged sexual comments?

Babba

#21 mad_scientist

And if he was misreperesnting his age, why on earth would he do that?

Same reason the folks on the Nightline "catch a pedophile" shows pretended to be 14-yo girls instead of middle-aged men--if you want to catch someone, you have to use bait that appeals to them.

Drudge has that Hastert is probably going to go soft on the investigation. (IMO)

Something smells here.

Engaging the FBI may be brilliant. No way now for the Demoncraps to derail the investigation.

We shall see!

Gag me with a spoon on all this scandal and the spin they all put on it.

Register Independent and throw them all out with instant term limits at the ballot box.

Barf.

His MySpace Account Cache from March

To all the people suggesting that Foley's quick resignation is somehow evidence of guilt, you are not considering other explanations.

Maybe Foley, being a party loyalist, folded when the House leadership came down on him. You know, in the "best interest of the party."

This doesn't mean there isn't more to the story, just that it is a possible explanation, among many.

But if this is a case of a prank, I suggest we all send dirty IMs to Karl Rove to express our thanks for another delicious Democrat embarrasment.

It's embarrassing having to defend this moron. And I'm afraid the prank angle is going to encourage too many people to continue to try.

Black George Bush

Soon. Soon. They're still wondering what happened to Pluto!

Khomeini's Da Man, and cannot be quoted often enough:

Khomeini's Teachings on sex with infants and animals

"The meat of horses, mules, or donkeys is not recommended. It is strictly forbidden if the animal was sodomized while alive by a man. In that case, the animal must be taken outside the city and sold."

"If one commits an act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned, and the price of it paid to its owner by him who sodomized it."

"It is forbidden to consume the excrement of animals or their nasal secretions. But if such are mixed in minute proportions into other foods their consumption is not forbidden."

"If a man (God protect him from it!) fornicates with an animal and ejaculates, ablution is necessary."

Time to start trolling for gay and horny Democrats. I'm sure I can convince a 17 year old to do it.

Oh yeah, be sure to save those IM's for the next election.

What is it with queer politicians being so promiscuous wanting to bugger young hot male pages?

It's time to clean THE HOUSE of all these people.

Oh, I'm sorry, he's just suffering from an identity crisis. Dr. Freud, please prescribe two hot pages and have him bugger them in the morning.

Hey MikeL mar-roon is from a cartoon. It's for emphasis.And you are one...

Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.

Their political careers SHOULD be affected. If they're too fucking stupid to see possible consequences, they have no place in politics.

Move along. Nothing to see here. Move along folks. Nothing to see here...

"Yet another trumped up leftist cause du jure bites the dust"

And turns around, bites them in the ass...

#21 mad_scientist

If anyone can give me the cliff notes version of this it would be appreciated

Dems accuse Republicans.

Republicans accuse Dems.

(repeat the above two ad nauseam)

Meanwhile, Islam takes over the world at an accelerating pace.

Executive summary: "diddling (during Ramadan) while Rome burns."

I think most voters will come away from this mess with their original opinions confirmed. Washington DC is a sewer and politicians are corrupt.

I don't know. This doesn't make things a whole lot better on the face of it. However, I'm going to invoke the 48 hour rule and am not going to say anything more about it for awhile until we learn a little more...

...unless something interesting comes up, of course. ;-)

Some of us who have kids are outraged about this. Where is the moral leadership?

Thats a STUPID thing to say. Youre probably a fundie who thinks having a kid a year is "God's work" right? How's that for stereotyping?

You dont need to have children to be angered by this nonsense.

Let your Pages do the walking through the yellow fingers.

Fake but accurate?

#43 bbcrackmonkey

I don't understand why Charles is running stories on Foley, it has nothing to do with the WOT.

Because the WOT is over, we lose, if the Dems take control of the House and Senate. This is the kind of shiite that could cause that to happen.

No matter who we elect we always seem to end up with another mortal human messing things up.

Whatever Foley is, it was known before. That this 'prank' breaks just weeks before a Federal election, where a number of races are must wins for the Republicans to keep this country sane, has to be one of the most evil attempts by the desperate dhummies I have seen in 68 years..and I am from Boston originally, and was, in my wayward youth, *gasp* a Dhummie, but I grew up.

It is the dhummies who should be running scared. I felt that Hastert must resign. Now? If all this chicanery can be proven? He should stay put.

I remember back in the days before caller ID, we pranked a young co-worker by telling him we left his phone number in a bathroom stall at the SF airport.

We let some time go by, then called him as an overtly gay male pretending to solicit sex.

The poor schnook came out of his office, shaking and pale as a ghost, looking as if he was ready to eat the gun.

Wish I had that on video.

A pederast pandering to a pretend catamite. What freakin' next!

#56 bbcrackmonkey

He resigned and made up excuses because he really does have a thing for young boys and he's embarrassed (as he should be). *shrug* That's not the "prank."

The "prank" was the page(s) pretending they were interested in him back and egging him on. Ashton Kutcher's had actors do similar stuff on MTV.

And they would have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for those meddling adults!

#68 nigella:

Great. "Mar-roon" is from a cartoon. WGAS?

I'm glad I'm a mar-roon or moron or whatever because I'm upset that Foley was doing what he was doing and the leadership didn't do more to stop it.

I'm pretty disappointed that more on LGF aren't upset about this to and seem to be making excuses for Foley and his bosses. This isn't about red versus blue or democrat versus republican. It's about right versus wrong.

You just don't get it. Do you?

"Politicians should have two terms: One in office and one in prison."

— Mark Twain

They baited him for sport. I f*cking hate teenagers. Too bad we can't draft them or convert them to Soylent Green.

And yes, he's still a perv.

Let's just take Washington, throw "em ALL out and start over again!

EC Marm, the Dems are already going to get Foley's seat, it's a forelorn conclusion. Foley's name is going to stay on the ballot because it's too late to change it.

Besides, since when does fighting the WOT have anything to do with defending the actions of a pedophilic congressman?

I think the Dem's are now left with this:

"You drove a homosexual out of office, who commited no crime, and did not even have consensual sex with an 18 year old."

He was a lowlife that got punk'd by some Pages, sitting around laughing at his pathetic IM's. I just don't see this as a win for the Dems, and not a win for the GOP. Just lowers the reputation of both parties even lower. Even the stupidest homosexual (and most are on the high end of the bright scale) will see this as transparent gay-bashing by the party that says it is for gay marriage, gay rights etc. Just to win power. That is not going to be appreciated. And the gay community are big monetary givers to Dem politicians. Way to get in a circle and fire you guns Dems.

#66 Fjordman

"If one commits an act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure..."

So is camel urine OK if you don't sodomize the animal first? What do they do with it (or do I want to know...)?

#66 Fjordman

At first I thought you were joshing us but, you're not. Unfreakingbelievable!

Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.

Too late, methinks.

Nearly everything posted at HuffingtonPost is Foley related.

The Democrats have finally found an issue that they can run with..."Vote the Gay pedophile Republicans out of office in November!".

No Mike you don't get it. None of us as far as I know have made any excuses for Foley. He's a sicko., and I'm glad he's gone. My anger is at the "dirty tricks" right before every election that the Democraps do. I am genuinely worried that a Democratic congress could be the end of all of us. Maybe I'm being overly dramatic but I really believe we are in danger if that happens.

#89 Jehu

Unfortunately, we're still left with Foley.

#84 MikeL

I suppose I don't "get it". Particularly in the light of this new revelation. To me it seems as the sick, misued by the warped, capatalized on by the evil. In other words, business as usual in Washington.

#88 bbcrackmonkey

Besides, since when does fighting the WOT have anything to do with defending the actions of a pedophilic congressman?

Who is defending his actions? Show me anyone who is defending his actions.

#47 MikeL
"Maroon" is from old Bugs Bunny cartoons, FYI.

Same reason the folks on the Nightline "catch a pedophile" shows pretended to be 14-yo girls instead of middle-aged men--if you want to catch someone, you have to use bait that appeals to them

Then that would mean that this wasnt a joke, and they were trying to bait him into doing something wrong, which would mean the drudge story is wrong.

Sorry, it still seems weird to me. If it was a joke, why lie about your age in such a way that would make it criminal for the person you are trying to pull a prank on, if indeed it was a joke and not a hit job.

# 37 Fjordman

Khomeini thought all sex was ok, as long as it was done to a goat or a donkey, and then you sold the meat in another village.

No lions though.

What in effect might have been sexual harassment on the part of Foley...and it is inexcusable...may have taken on the charge of a "pervert" which is a whole different matter.

If the page was over 18 at the time, regardless of how unsavory it was, it was not criminal in the sense it was seduction of a minor...though I have trouble telling the difference on day makes (over age/under age) to any of this.

If Foley was so easily manipulated, he needed to resign. But that is a matter different then what this has become. Like Clinton, this started out with "sex". Nobody cared about that in a legal sense. Clinton's problem is then the cover up. NO matter how seedy his philandering was, once he lied under oath, it moved into another realm...which the Dems never understood since following the laws are for others, not them.

In this case, the sexual nature of the notes may or may not be criminal...the investigation should reveal this. But the attempted destruction of a gay Republican and the entire leadership of the party needs to be investigated and then libel laws should be pursued. The problem, of course, is that the page was a Republican...proving that Republicans have no tolerance for gay people...and don't be surprised when a Dem says this.

Dems are just totally useless when it comes to the truth...

Reading all of this whilst listening to the 4 PM EST news on CBS radio. What a joke. According to them, Hastert is "...trying to get out of an ever increasing scandal..." (not direct quotes, too many CBS lies to copy in real time). Seems they don't read Drudge. Oh, forgot. They're journalists. They don't read at all.

86 BH

"They baited him for sport. I f*cking hate teenagers..."

One of the functions of teenagers IMHO is to test adults and if they get rid of the weak ones we are all better off.

I think this is part of G-d's plan for humanity.

8 MikeL

The age of consent in DC is 16. There were no minors involved.

It was certainly inappropriate but not illegal.

This is no defense of Foley, but it should be clear, these young men were not minors.

#84 MikeL

"and seem to be making excuses for Foley"

Who here is doing this? The consensus here seems to be that Foley is a repugnant slimeball. I'd be hard pressed to find anyone here who disagrees with this thesis. I understand your anger over his behavior (regardless of whether it was legal or not), I don't understand your anger at the lgf'ers.

#7 Black George Bush

Karl Rove strikes again :)

LOL! Karl Rove, you magnificent bastard! :)

MikeL said: But it's still bad. Maybe you don't have kids. Maybe you just don't understand.

You keep digging that hole, dont you Fundie?

Another good example of the Democrats and their MSM cheerleaders, holding hands as they jump off the cliff of sanity into the abyss of irrelevance.

By the way, did anyone see that link on Newsbusters.org about the ever-disgraceful Bill Maher's take on this? He said only Republicans should suffer reproach for sex sandals since it holds itself out as "the party of morality" unlike "us."

I suppose that means that the Democrats must be the Official Party of Immorality. That's sure to motivate the electorate.

some prank...I guess the old phone call pranks like this are long gone..

prankster:"Mr. Foley?"
Foley:"yes..?'
prankster:"this is technician Bob jones from the electric company. we've been having some problems in your area, so could you check to see if your refridgerator is running?"
Foley: "ok wait, I'll check...why yes it is..."
prankster: "well you better go catch it before it gets away...BWAHAHAH.."
Foley: "can I call you Bobby, technician Jones? what are you wearing right now? something loose?"
prankster:"errr..what?" Hangs up..

#84 MikeL

I'm pretty disappointed that more on LGF aren't upset about this to and seem to be making excuses for Foley and his bosses.

Some of us are very disappointed. If Foley were caught on video having sex with dogs, some people here would say "it's not fair that the Democrats waited until just before the election to release this" or "at least he didn't do it in the Oval Office like Clinton."

I'll still take the Republicans over the Dems, but the difference keeps shrinking...

#110 spider mensch

LOL!

Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.

Tough shit.

OT
current issue of US News and World Report has a cover that looks like GW Bush behind bars
[Link: www.usnews.com...]

the link has the cover pic small to the left, I don't have a bigger pic handy, but take a look at it when you're out and about; library, check-out line, wherever

am I imagining it? or is it a subliminal message?
he's behind a window, but it doesn't take much imagination to think of it as prison bars

RE: Khomeini

So what! They have sex with goats. Have you seen their women?

Okay, maybe that goes too far.

But there is a reason they resent the pig as much as they do.

...okay, maybe that goes too far...

I'm pretty disappointed that more on LGF aren't upset about this to and seem to be making excuses for Foley and his bosses. This isn't about red versus blue or democrat versus republican. It's about right versus wrong.

I dont see many people outright making excuses for Foley. From what I have read people are still upset at him, and he is still a pervert that likes younger boys.

But we are all commenting on how it came about. Foley resigned, and it is over. now we need to look at the facts of the issue...

I have no interest in defending Foley. I'm glad he's gone, and if there is (yet another) brewing scandal about the Congressional Page program, perhaps it ought to be shut down.

What I do know is, this story has gotten too weird for me. It was weird from the start, but this is just too much.

A prank? What kind of congressman would participate in that kind of chat session? Some joke! It makes Foley not just a pervert but stupid, as OR points out.

Was anyone here a page? Does anyone have an insight?

#100 mad_scientist

Sorry, it still seems weird to me. If it was a joke, why lie about your age in such a way that would make it criminal for the person you are trying to pull a prank on,

Teenagers lie about their age all the time, often for criminal ends (fake IDs, man). They were baiting the guy--if he liked young guys, saying they were 21 wouldn't be effect bait.

Surely JammieWF and I aren't the only people here who have ever pranked someone...

Hey 84 Mike L

I'm upset at the whole thing. Throw them all out of office and quit wasting time.

Bleah.

Re #56,

Boy the dems sure got those talking point responses to Drudge out fast. Or maybe somebody knew it was all gonna blowback, bad...

So is camel urine OK if you don't sodomize the animal first?

Ahh, nobody's asked me about camel urine for a long time:

[Link: www.usc.edu...]

Volume 8, Book 82, Number 797:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

A group of people from 'Ukl (or 'Uraina) tribe ---but I think he said that they were from 'Ukl came to Medina and (they became ill, so) the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) she-camels and told them to go out and drink the camels' urine and milk (as a medicine).

[Link: www.media-watch.org...]

Q:Please tell us about your stay with (Pakistani politician) Qazi Hussain Ahmed

This sheik comes from a Bedouin family of southwestern Arabia. He had the habit of drinking camel urine and camel milk early in the morning. I asked him why does he do that? He replied that it is the family tradition as well as Islamic practice that is supported by Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). I was astounded. But Qazi explained to me that it is true. He told me three or four Hadiths in which the camel urine and camel milk drinking is suggested.

He bought a camel after coming to Pakistan. Three years later he had kidney stones problem. As per the doctor's advice he had to stop drinking the urine while he
continued the drinking camel milk. Doctor advised him to stop drinking the milk as well since the camel milk is rich in calcium compared to the cow milk. I think he stopped drinking any milk or milk products. But he had said that once JI comes to power in Pakistan, he will popularize the camel milk and camel urine drinking in Pakistan.

Now that Foley has resigned, does his replacement have to be homosexual?

OT

Wasnt today supposed to be the "Day of Rage" by the moonbats? Nothing seems to be hitting the radar.

This must be why the kid - whats-his-name, hired Timothy McVey's Attorney yesterday.

"Kid" uttters the proverbial: "Oh Sh*t!"

Newsflash!

Dems dig deep hole, fill with mud, and step in.

Eric Cartman's Conscious 96

Unfortunately, we're still left with Foley.

Foley resigned. His name stays on the ballot. Only a Republican voter living the month before the election on the moon, will not understand his name represents the new named GOP candidate. I would not count on this being an automatic Dem seat now.

Upon his resignation, Foley had $2.7 million in campaign funds. Carl Forti, the communications director for the National Republican Congressional Committee, said on October 1 that the committee would gladly accept Foley’s money to put towards other House races.

Which, I would guess can also go to his replacement. The Dems have nowhere this much cash. And of all irony, this is the district that has Palm Beach, where the 2000 election was decided. Would be beyond irony if this is again a Waterloo for Dems. Foley is disgusting, but the Dems are even MORE disgusting.

Day of RPage.

Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos.

So the kid wasn't serious, wasn't gay, but was 'playing' with the 'unwitting' Foley. I don't see how this changes the fact that Foley typed this stuff to what he Thought was an underage page...

Still a sick bastard...

#122 itellu3times

No, he just has to be stupid and cavalier. Sounds like a job for a Kennedy.

The more I follow politics, the more disgusted I become. Republican and Democrats alike have all been corrupted by the Washinton power scene. It is the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah...

Everyone has dirt on everyone else so nothing ever gets solved or investigated to a full conclusion. The fall guys are always the little fish, the big politicos can always blackmail their investigators to get out of trouble.

This was not the government our forefathers envisioned. Someday soon we will need to clean out Washington...I hope that when we diecide to do it the second amendment is still constitutional at that time.

JOIN MY CABAL!

Babba, you're going to LOVE this site!

#90 Heather Radish

You drink the camel urine. Yummm! And so refreshing!

Isn't it surprising what is halal?

(Drinking the Kool-Aid must be practice...)

Jordan Edmund is the kind of man who'd think dumping pig blood on Carrie at the prom would be great fun.

Jordan Edmund - the Billy Nolan of pages.

No wonder he's hired a criminal attorney an attorney who works for criminals a criminal-law attorney. That's the ticket.

#126 Jehu

No disagreement here.

#84 MikeL

One.

Teenagers need to know that there are scumbags out there who will be lookin' to mess around with them.

Teenagers need to recognize it when they hear it and know to say 'no' and tell some authority.

Being outraged that the scum exists may feel righteous, but educating the kids is a lot more effective.

Two.

To a very large extent, elected representatives are answerable only to their contituencies who voted them in.

If it were possible for the House or Senate membership, the party, or the leadership to force an elected representative out just because they felt something was scandalous, we wouldn't have an effective democracy.

OT.

How far away is Royal Oak from Dearborn Michigan, BTW? Is it real close? Is Royal Oak a suburb of Detroit?

Anyone know?

#84 MikeL and your proof that his "bosses" knew all about it is ?

133

ROTFLMAOPMP

#131 Ben Hur 10/5/2006 01:13PM PDT
JOIN MY CABAL!

Babba, you're going to LOVE this site!

Ohhho ho hohoohoo HOO HOOO HOOHOOO AAAHHH!

123 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I'm heading over to Union Square to pick up some photos of the loon rage festival and will post when I get home.

I know there are others videotaping and covering the UN leg of the seethe parade. Awaiting results..

So what was the "enticement"? An invitation to the "hump of islam"?

#130 mad...and from what era do you write? You could say the same thing about the congresses of 1796, 1836, 1856, 1936, 1966, 1976, etc etc etc.

OUr leaders suck, but, find a place where the government does a better job (FYI Disneyland doesn't count)

Unless it was simply consensual homosexual online sex, and the kid is embarrassed and/or fearful of the effect on his career and wants to call it a "prank"

#133 Cattt

His goose is also cooked. He has a myspace.com site that lists, among other things his political aspirations and his dislike of fat and stupid people.

I think he will now have to list himself among the second group.

Would there be an uproar if he was straight and an 18 y/o female page was pranking him? Or do the donks have a problem with gays... gay republicans. that is.

Not a defense, I find the man abhorrent. However, we had a prez who actually, well, y'all know.

Watch the masses scramble for the latest gossip and scandal. See how they all claw for the chance to pry into another's personal life? Yes... it's quite the sight.

#135 Point Two Example: Barney Frank

I don't care how many "diversity training" sessions I'm forced to attend--I'm not drinking camel urine.

You know, I begin to fear that we're now back on September 10th, and we will, someday soon, look back on this Foley scandal the same way we remember the Gary Condit scandal back in 2001.

Remember him?

The end of Ramadan is coming, folks.

(And what a dhimmified text about Ramadan they've got on GlobalSecurity.org, huh?)

#145 Murqtaad

I think anyone who attempts to take advantage of a young person working for them (that includes pages and interns) is a pervert.

With that, may I have a resounding "Yuck!"

#136

Royal Oak is 10 miles due north of Dearborn, as a crow flies (or takes a bus).

#135 nonic

Great post!

It is written that the takers of camel urine find the shit of the bull of Islam becomes easier to swallow.

#148 HeatherRadish

How do you know you're not already? Ever wonder what they put in Budweiser?

Charles, what happened the story that some high-level Dem official knew about this some time back?

Dreamy break,

With 2 out in the bottom of the ninth and trailing the Tigers 4-3, it looks like it's all on Johnny Damon's shoulders.

#148 HeatherRadish 10/5/2006 01:20PM PDT

I don't care how many "diversity training" sessions I'm forced to attend--I'm not drinking camel urine.

I thought it was Indians bathing in cow urine?

Dudes and dudettes,

I am as confused as a nursing baby in a topless bar.

This whole thing just defies logic.

/yeah, I know. What was I expecting?

Chyron

See how they all claw for the chance to pry into another's personal life? Yes... it's quite the sight.

We are becoming a nation of voyeurs. I was forced to sit through 5 minutes of Dr Phil the other day. Had to go take a shower.

#149 Dar ul Harb

I was thinking the same thing myself just last night.

I hope we're both wrong.

I think everybody's missing something here.

Did ABC News authenticate these IMs? If they did, why did they not discover the "prank."

I wouldn't argue with people who say that Foley is scum and should be gone. I think it's an understandable position to take.

If ABC had done its job, would the young man need to hire Tim McVeigh's attourney?

I worry that this kid, for just doing what kids do, is caught between a rock and a hard place. He's either Foley's victim (embarrassing as it is), or he's just killed his chances of ascending in the ranks of the Republican party.

This kid is right in the middle of it.

And the Dems are using that for political gain.

So, I think this "scandal" has changed quite a bit, if this story is true.

Not that I want it to be true but this sounds just a bit too much like a "Dallas" dream sequence.

According to the news yesterday, and then today, there is more than this first teen involved. It was also rumored that Foley tried to visit one of the teens in a page dormitory, or some such facility, a couple years ago, but was stopped by police. No one, yet, has turned up any campus police records to substantiate this.

The former page that was on the news last night said Foley had IM'd him and one of his friends, as well, and had records. The records shown on the news were from when they were adults, however. They said Foley had been corresponding with them like this since they first knew him in 1997, when both were still teenagers.

I just realized - the prank nature of this came out (no pun intended) because Jordan Edmund would rather be thought of as an insensitive homophobic twit than as gay.

No no! I'm not gay! I'm cruel and thoughtless!

Dirk,

Dreamy choked.

Dianna,

That was pretty much what I was saying... I was thinking along the lines of, Democrats are hypocrites.

#131 Ben Hur

That is out ragious...funnny. One billion moose-lims under my "monkey" thumb? Count me in.

#154 Earth2moonbat
#148 HeatherRadish

How do you know you're not already? Ever wonder what they put in Budweiser?

Rice. Which is why I don't drink it. *beer snob*

/flush twice, it's a long way to St. Louis!

Black republicans aren't really black,they are house n***rs(quoting Harry Belafonte)

Hispanic republicans aren't really hispanics,they are sellouts

Gay republicans aren't really gay,they are perverts.

Too bad Foley didn't give the page a cushy government job like that gay democrat governor,he'd really be in troub...

...nevermind.

With that, may I have a resounding "Yuck!"

YUCK!

#new tommy - according to yahoo maps -- it is REAL close...like a mile or two north of detroit -- dearborn looks to be a little west of Detroit.

Why?

#153 coulterclone

It is written that the takers of camel urine find the shit of the bull of Islam becomes easier to swallow.

That's funny! Gross but, funny.

T.S. 168,

It's a 1 way street, ain't it?

#170 soccerdad

Thank you.

Why?

Just curious.

#165 Murqtaad

I figured. I just needed to get the resounding "Yuck!" that's been trapped in my head out.

Here's the basic problem. Democrat voters don't give a rip when THEIR Congresspmen/Senators/Presidents/etc. get caught commiting a crime or other socially unacceptable deed. This has been proven over and over again. For them, THE CAUSE TRUMPS THE CRIME.

On the other hand, for Republican/Conservative voters, such actions DO matter. They either vote out the perpetrator or stay away from the polls. And the Dems know this.

That is why the Dems continue to pull such crap, even when they are exposed. They know they got their 3-4 days of Repub-bashing headlines, and the rest is all irrelevant.

THe ONLY antidote is VOTE!

Once again, since many here don't seem to understand the dynamic:

1. What Foley did is unchanged in character in that he was looking for sex with young men.

That does not change prank or no prank.

What changes now? The faux moral outrage of the Dems is uncovered...as exactly that...false. The minor they were hiding behind has been revealed to have been 18 years old, and he was pranking the gay congresman.

This reveals to all but the stupidest voters and the BDS crowd (that will never change even if the Islamists nuked NYC) that this was all political election season smearing.

It gives a black eye ALSO to the Dems, that were busy kicking out the crutches from the lame GOP, and laughing as it fell on the ground with broken bottles and glass strewn about.

Whenver the true nature or motives of the Dems are revealed, it is always worse than if aberrant behavior is revealed in the GOP.

Clinton was and is IN character of the LLL's. Foley is out of character to most of the GOP. They hate us because we DO have a moral code or principles we espouse, but only the Son of God EVER walked in such a code without failing.

In other words their hatred and condemnation is that we are NOT Jesus Christ, and how dare anyone even TRY to walk in moralilty. Even the attempt of someone trying to be moral is a threat to their whole worldview. They delight in the debasement of everyone, but most particularly anyone that tried to resist evil.

#135 nonic

I would add to #2: It would be bedlam if the congress ever got into the business of removing members for "ethical violations" where they make up the rules on the fly. They can censure them for violating well-understood rules, they can prosecute them for breaking the law, and they can let their own constituants vote them out of office.

Unfortunately, if you look at Massachusetts, often the voters return criminals to congress, and local prosecuters fail to do their job, when the well-connected and powerful are involved.

But the alternative is worse. The alternative is a constant stream of phoney witchhunts, and rules made up on the fly, especially when control of congress is close.

So he's already resigned. That takes the whole business of reelection and censure off the table. All that's left is criminal prosecution. If he broke any laws, nail him. But I can think of more than one member of the Massachusetts delegation who should have faced charges a long time ago. But I know nothing is ever going to happen to them.

#131 Ben Hur
I want my monkey back! I made one and e-mailed it to myself and the link has not shown up yet...
WAH!

OT!

YANKEES LOST!

OT

Zogby poll gives Lieberman 20 point lead.

Based on these polls, I predict that the Democrats take the Senate by 51-49 ... and Lieberman will be the deciding vote.

Only 33 more days until Kos nuclear meltdown.

#135 nonic
Good post. When my son lived here and was a young teenager, I would let him use my computer. I had it set up to record all online activity. I would then read his activity and then call him into my office. "Did you see this," I said. "This entry where someone is looking for pictures of young girls?" I gave him a long lecture about how people like that are predators and looking to get him in trouble. He looked really upset. I told him I was sure that he would watch out from now on. Also, while I was no longer going to record his online activity, that he should never forget privacy and security on computer systems is not something that he should ever assume.
I think he's just a few credits short of his doctorate now, in Computer Science. If kids are gonna learn, parents have to teach.

YANKEES LOST!

Amen!

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.

This, on its face, sounds quite incredulous.

Cattt

No no! I'm not gay! I'm cruel and thoughtless!

What crossed my devious mind is that the prank story could be cover.
My last official thought on the story.

Why did Foley resign so quickly?

Amalie did you get a copy of my monkey?

Cue the Twilight Zone music!

#165 Murqtaad 10/5/2006 01:27PM PDT

Dianna,

That was pretty much what I was saying... I was thinking along the lines of, Democrats are hypocrites

It's called politics. It's been around forever.

Reminds me of Julius Caesar for some reason.

#186 FM

Maybe just because he was "outed?"

#184 Amalie 10/5/2006 01:33PM PDT

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.

This, on its face, sounds quite incredulous.

100% agree

Foley disgraced himself, got caught and resigned. Maybe he was entrapped. So what. I don't see any illegal activity.

Hastert should stay. The Dems would like to see him resign for political reasons. He has taken a reasonable position.

If something like this causes a Democratic takeover Foley's indisgression will be the least of my worries.

Conservatives, get out there and VOTE. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. This is no time to be juvenile. THINK!

Some here think Republicans alone need to do Mea Culpas. To them I say, 'buzz off'.

#176 jehu -- WOW - nice observations - never thought of it that way, but is a really fine explanation.

I love coming here...learn something new every day!

187 Babba

Let me check my inbox for a monkey..

Be right back..

:D

Murqtaad,

Dirk,

Dreamy choked.

You bite you tongue, young man! Damon's batting .400 for the series. Today he was two for five with three RBI's and a homer.

Compare that to Alice Rodriguez. He had another one of his sterling postseason perfomances. He was zero for four and is batting .125 for the series.

Sons Of Apes and Pigs

#185 javems

AHH! The old double-double-double cross ploy.

/spoken with an Inspector Closeau accent

#177 EArth

Everything you said.

Ditto.

:-)

121 Fjordman

Ahh, nobody's asked me about camel urine for a long time:

But you know that human urine is a populare medicine in India but also in Germany/Austria/Switzerland.

When Morarji Desai was MP in India large groups of hindus waited every morning in front of his house for his morning-urine (to drink and/or for skin medicine).

In Europe human urine is used as alternative medicine by skin diseases.

Babba

Where's your monkey? Is he upthread?

Despite the best of laid plans...

This isn't coming down as dem operatives planed.
Foley has been removed to a none hostile area. (he's scum but you can't talk to him)
The DSM (demstreammedia) has tried to force a brick house to fall like cards, AGAIN.
They are now faced with a rapid and full-scale investigation. (and the RNC is willing to let it fall where it may)
The DSM over played it's hand, pre-maturely elated and is now in panic mode.
The negotiations have begun.

#47 Mikel

I understand you being pissed off but the problem I have is how Foley is burned at the stake. While Democrats who have done the same or worse get away with it. Studds having sex with a 17 year old. Frank his "partner" selling sex out of his apartment and of course Kennedy "KILLING SOMEONE" for gods sake. There keeping there positions does not seem right.

By the way the spelling Maroon refers to old Bug Bunny cartoons where Bugs would say "What a maroon" instead of moron. I guess these cartoons were before your time. Maybe something from Captian Planet should have been used. LOL

200 Amalie
No I made a monkey gram from Ben Hurs link, put our emails in, it said it took, and it never showed up.
A DINGO ATE MY MONKEY!

When an 18yr old gang banger shoots an innocent bystander the headline reads "man shoots bystander" but when its anything of a sexual nature the 18 yr old suddenly becomes "a teenager".

When a democrat senator is making "waitress sandwiches" out of 18 yr old waitresses its no big deal,but when a gay republican makes sexually explicit comments to an 18 yr old boy,he's a pervert.

WTF?

#199 Zucker etc.

And for those of use from where the rivers meet the seas...

It's also the best thing out there to take the sting out of a jellyfish attack.

But your wife/girlfriend still won't appreciate the offer.

It's downright frightening who we have running this country. Our soldiers are risking their lives fighting for our existence over there and here we are talking about this crap. How discouraging.

OT: Breaking
CAIR: FBI Training a Muslim Extremist?

Hussam Ayloush, leader of the Southern California brance of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is attending the “FBI Citizen’s Academy”.
[Link: www.fbi.gov...]

On September 7, Anti-CAIR (ACAIR) issued a “News and Analysis” titled “CAIR: Cops Training Terrorists?”
[Link: www.anti-cair-net.org...]

ACAIR called into question the FBI’s practice of inviting leaders from the business, religious and civic fields to attend the “FBI Citizen’s Academy” and how dangerous this could be, particularly if a Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) representative were to be invited.

Ayloush brags in his blog of his invite and mentions, in the first paragraph (Sept. 30):
[Link: hussamayloush.blogspot.com...]

“Through my work at CAIR, I get to interact closely
with the local FBI office, mainly on cases involving
hate crimes against Muslims or counter-terrorism.”

So, if Ayloush is correct, the FBI has worked with CAIR, a Muslim terrorist supporting organization, to help in the “War on Terror” in the field of counter-terrorism? (Ayloush didn’t mention just how he helped the FBI find Muslim terrorists, but maybe allowing the FBI to take a stroll through his blackberry helped?)

What must it be like for a newly-minted FBI agent to step into his/her first office, for their very first assignment, and look up and see Ayloush standing by to lend his “expertise” in fighting radical Islam? What would Ayloush tell the new agent? What possible constructive advice could a representative of a Muslim hate group offer? What about the veteran FBI agent, who knows the truth about CAIR and is shocked at the FBI leadership’s close relationship with CAIR? What a slap in the face…

While we can’t speak for FBI agents, ACAIR can’t help but believe that J. Edgar Hoover must be spinning in his grave. Can anyone imagine the FBI holding hands with NAZI’s during World War II?

ACAIR wonders just how CAIR successfully co-opted whichever FBI agent was so clueless, so ignorant or just simply stupid enough to invite America’s leading Islamic hate group to participate in a program designed to help protect America from…Islamic hate groups.

This begs several questions:

1. When the next CAIR official is arrested on Islamic terrorism related charges, how will the FBI explain its cozines with Ayloush?
2. How do field FBI agents feel, knowing that their superiors are fawning over the very group that supports those they are fighting?
3. How many terror attacks on America, or her allies, must occur before the FBI removes its rose-colored glasses and sees the obvious for what it is, i.e., that CAIR is no friend of the FBI, never has been, never will be?

How many Americans live’s are in danger, how much will the radical Islamic movement gain by having a CAIR representative help the FBI in counter-terrorism?

No amount of spin will protect the FBI from the righteous indignation of the American people when this arguably treasonous act is exposed.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations is a clear and present danger to the United States, why is this news to the senior leadership of the FBI, but not to field agents ...?

Hm...page involved is outed as gay, or least shown to be experimenting with gay sex, if he can't come up with a good explanation. Claiming it was all a prank is a good excuse that some might buy.

I don't. Happy career in homophobic USA. If this person wnats to remain in politics I recommend a move north and take up politics in Canada where being gay basically makes us Canuks yawn with disinterest generalized disinterest.

I also don't think this excuses Mark Foley. He's a still a sicko predator preying on children. 18 may be technically legal but it is a still a child predator when the other partner is two decades or more older.

Child predators should be executed.

Babba

Did you email it to yourself? It takes a little bit of time. It will work.

I don't see folks defending Foley and I sure as heck am not going to do so.

However, I see lots of people saying, this would be okay if the kid was over 18, but if he was a few days short of his 18th birthday, its pedophilia, etc.

Where is the age of 18 coming from? I am just curious, because the age of consent in Oregon is 16. That's right, its only a crime to have consensual sex with another person if they are under the age of 16.

Is there really a lot of difference between a 17 yr old male (who can enlist in the military with parental permission) and an 18 yr old male? Neither one is going to be pre-pubiscient. And isn't that the whole thing about pedophilia, its adults who get sexually aroused by pre-pubiscient kids?

The whole thing is creepy as hell, Foley should definately resign, but if its just teenagers punking a creepy old "fag" from Florida, it hardly rises the the level of national crises, culture of corruption, FBI and Congressional investigations, etc.

The Dems "October surprise" is getting to be a lot like Christmas (another dirty word) these days, it comes earlier and earlier every year!

#203 BabbaZee 10/5/2006 01:40PM PDT

200 Amalie
No I made a monkey gram from Ben Hurs link, put our emails in, it said it took, and it never showed up.
A DINGO ATE MY MONKEY!

I'm BUMMED! I love monkeys.

I don't know if I should laugh or cry?

It's hard to believe this.

I sure hope so. Watch the dem's go bonkers if it turns out to be a prank.

#210 Ben Hur
Yes I did. Still nada. Wah!

#208 buzzsawmonkey
Amen to your whole post.

#202 harley2002

the problem I have is how Foley is burned at the stake. While Democrats who have done the same or worse get away with it.

Agree. But I don't think letting Foley ooze away unscathed (coming on to subordinates in a workplace is textbook sexual harassment) is the proper rectification. Congresspeople committing sexual crimes should be staked regardless of party affiliation.

I also want a pony and a million dollars and a flying car.

Foley should be gone. And he is gone. Pretty much case closed.

One gets the impression that certain people were geared up for a big fight for his removal, and when he just went, they want more. Now, along the lines of demanding Rummy quit over Abu Ghraib, they want a boss of some sort to go too. They'd like everyone with an R beside their name to quit in mass shared shame, but they'll settle for one or two. Like buying a car and asking if they'll throw in the radio upgrade. "You gotta give me the upgrade." As long as you got what you want, try to get more.

Similar to demanding an apology, getting one, but then demanding a better one and issuing a fatwa anyway.

#212 Amalie
Judah Ben Hur says I must be patient.
My monkey is in transit, LOL!

There was a link to the guy's (Foley's IM chat buddy) blog. He's only 21 years old. He was trying to be cool by writing about where he is currently working, a republican gubernatorial race and going to school in S Cal.

He put tried to be funny by saying... "hey, I'm just an asshole."

He may want to change this line because now there are several connotations involved.

I find it highly "interesting" to say the least that the same liberals who are now pointing and screaming HOMOSEXUAL PERVERT! are the very same people who would gladly send them off into the woods to spend the night with Boyscouts.

/I'm just sayin'

If nothing else... prime example of why the 48 hour rule is a good one. This thing has morphed so many times I've lost track of who did what when and where and why. Now, we learn it was a prank, they were more like 17-18 contrary to how they were originally portrayed... what next?

217 tfk

Thanks man. I'll tune into Hannity & Colmes tonight.

Monkey... mooonnnkeeeyy... where are you?

Holds out banana...

#215 HeatherRadish

Has he committed a crime? From what I have read this kid was 18 at the time ... or almost 18. And he was in DC at the time, no? Where the age is 16? I am not sure about his location at the time.

I think at Foley is out for being icky not illegal.

#88 bbcrackmonkey

"the Dems are already going to get Foley's seat, it's a forelorn conclusion."

I wouldn't be so sure about that . . . I live in the district right next to Foley's. People in the Sw Florida portion of his district are not stupid, and they're certainly not liberal.

#221 Mirage 10/5/2006 01:48PM PDT

If nothing else... prime example of why the 48 hour rule is a good one. This thing has morphed so many times I've lost track of who did what when and where and why. Now, we learn it was a prank, they were more like 17-18 contrary to how they were originally portrayed... what next?

The truth?

/I would have to buy a case of Snickers bars to wait that one out

Great email I received from a fellow Cabal member:

MARK YOUR CALENDAR FOR NEXT SATURDAY.
As you may already know, it is a sin for a Muslim male to see any woman other than his wife naked, and that he must commit suicide if he does. So next Saturday at 4 PM. EDT all American women are asked to walk out of their house completely naked to help weed out any neighborhood terrorists. Circling your block for one hour is recommended for this anti-terrorist effort.All men are to position themselves in lawn chairs in front of their house to prove they are not Muslims, and to demonstrate they think it's okay to see nude women other than their wife and to show support for all American women. Since Islam also does not approve of alcohol, a cold 6-pack at your side is further proof of your anti-Muslim sentiment.The American government appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds your participation in this anti-terrorist activity.It is your patriotic duty to pass this on.

This sounds... squirrelly. And lame.

I feel like I'm getting punked by lame squirrels.

#223 Amalie
Ahhahahhaaa.

If he comes, post him here.
I have to go hold out a bananna to the husband... time to make the dinner!

#227 Ben

WooHoo!

#225 Florida Lady 10/5/2006 01:50PM PDT

#88 bbcrackmonkey

"the Dems are already going to get Foley's seat, it's a forelorn conclusion."

I wouldn't be so sure about that . . . I live in the district right next to Foley's. People in the Sw Florida portion of his district are not stupid, and they're certainly not liberal.

A forelorn conclusion...

lol...

beblebrox - I personally see nothing whatsoever wrong with a man being gay and don't think it should interfere in any aspect his life including being a boy scout leader.

Of course, I define gay as "man interested in another man" only. No gay man as I define it would have the slightest interest in pursuing a boyscout. And I define "Man interested in a boy, child or other person below someone in a position of power" as a pedophilic predator.

You may not care to make the distinction, but I do.

Babba

Okay... I'll keep an eye out for your cute little monkey.

#208, buzzsawmonkey

Good analysis.

#224 wintercat

Yeah, after I posted I realized I suggested Foley committed a crime, and I didn't mean to (although I'm not altogether sure about some of these new "electronic communications with minors" laws). He's out because he's icky in a way that interferes with business.

Just like Frank, Stubbs, et al should be (have been) out, and weren't.

#220 beblebrox
Yeah, I think this says a lot more about the psychology of the left than the psychology of the right.

#227 Ben Hur 10/5/2006 01:50PM PDT

Great email I received from a fellow Cabal member:

MARK YOUR CALENDAR FOR NEXT SATURDAY.
As you may already know, it is a sin for a Muslim male to see any woman other than his wife naked, and that he must commit suicide if he does. So next Saturday at 4 PM. EDT all American women are asked to walk out of their house completely naked to help weed out any neighborhood terrorists. Circling your block for one hour is recommended for this anti-terrorist effort.All men are to position themselves in lawn chairs in front of their house to prove they are not Muslims, and to demonstrate they think it's okay to see nude women other than their wife and to show support for all American women. Since Islam also does not approve of alcohol, a cold 6-pack at your side is further proof of your anti-Muslim sentiment.The American government appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds your participation in this anti-terrorist activity.It is your patriotic duty to pass this on.

Yeah... that sounds like a plan..

lol.

Dirk,

Alice just hasn't been the same since Dimples took Jeter away...

/I would like to be a fly on the wall in that there locker room. Must be better than a trip to The Manhole.

Time to roll down the cover!

#186 FrogMarch

Why did Foley resign so quickly?

The more I think about it this situation was incredibly unfair and embarassing to Foley, he has being teased, egged on and joked about by his interns. Also it seems that his gayness, which was an open secret, was now on the headline of every newspaper.
If you think about this story with traditional hetero sex roles there's really nothing that doesn't go on every day in every business, board room, and college clasroom in the country.

#209 Judith

If this person wnats to remain in politics I recommend a move north and take up politics in Canada where being gay basically makes us Canuks yawn with disinterest generalized disinterest.

Until one party sees a way to get some milage out of it. Then, it'll be in your face.

Stereotypes notwithtanding, Canaddians and Europeans can be as homophobic and as misomynistic as they need to be to get their political aims achieved. I've seen some unbelievable misogynistic material the BBC was playing prior to the Thatcher election, because they couldn't use anything else against her.

So, get of your high horse. You're not superior.

#41 Earth2moonbat 10/5/2006 12:47PM PDT

It doesn't change anything wrt Foley. It does change things wrt the demos and the MSM. This latest revelation is all about the demos and the MSM, and not about Foley.

Huh? If Drudge is to be believed, Republican pages knew about Foley's behavior, and told no one about it (parents?) I love the Drudge spin though: "The prank went awry", as if to say that it would have been better to keep the evidence that they have a perv congressman on the hill a secret. Drudge doesn't elaborate about 'political operatives favorable to Dems', but it's interesting that he didn't write 'operatives favorable to keeping pervs away from congressional pages'.

I'll keep my eyes peeled though. I just know those 'donks' did something!

Why doesn't Foley's office order bookmarks?

Because they just bend over the pages.

The MSM is now the Tabloid Media.

235 HeatherRadish
I know, I did not understand why Stubbs got a pass.

232 Judith
I am with you on the gay issue.

Babba Amalie

239 Killgore

I'm going to wait to find out why Foley tucked tale and fled to the nearest rehab. Within 24 hours his attorneys were floating the various "I was a victim too" excuses.

So far he was:

molested by a clergyman between the ages of 13-15

So far he is:

Gay

An Alcoholic

#228 Amalie

I feel like I'm getting punked by lame squirrels.

I'm shocked I tell-ya, just shocked! 0-:

#239 Killgore Trout

If you think about this story with traditional hetero sex roles there's really nothing that doesn't go on every day in every business, board room, and college clasroom in the country.

Oh hell, think about it with traditional gay sex roles. The "daddy-boy" relationship is as classic as "butch-femme." If Foley had been soliciting kids he met outside of work, no scandal.

211 Fatal

I already mentioned above, the age of consent in Washington is 16 too.

The emails/IM's are not that explicit as to constitute pornography and the young men "were of age" so there is no criminal activity involved.

I also don't want to defend Foley but he is not a pedophile. That would only be having sex with underage children. These were young but not under age and there is no evidence he had sex or even solicited sex --at least not so far.

I'll keep my eyes peeled though. I just know those 'donks' did something!

You let us know what you find out... and give Treez a big up for me.

The last five-term Democrat to pork pageboys
was named "Studds".

The House Majority leader is named "Boehner".

Beavis and Butthead, where are you now that we need you?

If I'm repeating somebody else's point, I apologize; I don't have time to read the whole thread.

But...
If this is a hoax, it seems much more likely to me that the page typed up those IMs himself, rather than convincing Foley to write them.

Assistants normally have at least some of their boss's passwords. Or have access to their boss's office and could take advantage of a boss who carelessly did not log out when leaving for a while.

Don't get me wrong; Foley's quick resignation does imply that there is something he doesn't want found - although it's not impossible that he just doesn't want to drag out the fight and possibly maximize damage to his own party. But the prank idea is just so... juvenile. Could he be that much of a childish twerp and have nobody notice it before?

#232 Judith

I do make the distinction, my point was that it seems that when politics is served, the Dems don't seem to make the distinction, or at the very least this is a base ploy to play on public fears and preconceptions that in other circumstances they would be wildly condemning.

We were in the Oval office and the cigar box fell on the floor. Miss Lewinsky bent over to pick one up and i tripped over the box. I reached forward to steady myself and my finger caught her underwear. As I tumbled, her pants came down and the cigar I was holding stuck up her ass...and that's when my wife walked in...

Muslims are seething in Jack Straw's constituency and on TV the BBC are condemning him utterly.

#246 Amalie

Has it occurred to anyone that he feels unbelievably stupid and used, and is just trying to run away from the spotlight? Not everyone has the "stand and fight" instinct; some have the "head for the hills" instinct. This isn't as mysterious as a lot of people are making it out to be. The guy is just a coward. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.

#232 Judith

However I do think it's as bad an idea to send a gay man out with a bunch of teenage boys as it would be to send a straight man out with a bunch of teenage girls. Best to avoid situations where bad things that people of all stripes will later regret.

239 Killgore Trout

The more I think about it this situation was incredibly unfair and embarassing to Foley, he has being teased, egged on and joked about by his interns.

I looked at this "kids" website on myspace.com. Here's a link to the site that found out who the page was:

[Link: passionateamerica.com...]

Scroll down for a copy of the page's myspace website.

Also, Passionate America says he's been getting hate mail. I'd like to know from whom.

How much linger before the Dems begin to drop the issue.

Amalie (#228),

I feel like I'm getting punked by lame squirrels.

Yet the vaunted investigative journalists who "broke" the story will tell you they were too stupid to figure it out, so don't feel bad.

All this talk of Studds and Boehner got me reminiscing from the Clinton era, when the Chinese spy case was investigated, with the ensuing Cox and Dicks report.

Whodathunkit? A Clinton scandal involving Cox and Dicks, but no sex.

245 Ben Hur

LOL... I did it!

#215

I did not mean Foley should keep his job. I ment the others I mentioned should have been booted also and they were not..

#258 mattm 10/5/2006 02:05PM PDT

How much linger before the Dems begin to drop the issue.

They're busy creating the next fraud to, ahem, MoveOn to.

#255 Earth2moonbat 10/5/2006 02:03PM PDT

#246 Amalie

Has it occurred to anyone that he feels unbelievably stupid and used, and is just trying to run away from the spotlight? Not everyone has the "stand and fight" instinct; some have the "head for the hills" instinct. This isn't as mysterious as a lot of people are making it out to be. The guy is just a coward. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.

E2M!

He's a Congressman! And yes, he was probably was used and also very, very stupid. We don't need no stinkin cowards in Congress.

This is the bullshit of all bullshits!
/Mooj

This is getting ridiculous. If it turns out that he broke the law, NAIL HIM, but based on what we currently know, he broke no laws.

Carry on.

#250 Murqtaad 10/5/2006 02:00PM PDT

You let us know what you find out... and give Treez a big up for me

Done

#259 Geepers 10/5/2006 02:05PM PDT

Amalie (#228),

I feel like I'm getting punked by lame squirrels.

Yet the vaunted investigative journalists who "broke" the story will tell you they were too stupid to figure it out, so don't feel bad.

Geeps

We are still getting punked. I don't like being perpetually punked, Geepers.

chenzhen 267,

Good job. He's a superstar.

Hmmm.

Now it's being reported that Hastert hasn't asked the FBI to investigate the case because Democrats have asked him not to!

WTF!? Hey Hastert! Grow a damn spine will ya?!

#252

Have you seen his pages "farewell" speech where he talks about hoping he won't cry? Blegh! I don't know how someone couldn't see that he was a bit of a drama queen (pardon the reference) from that! Made me cringe . . .

264 Amalie

We don't need no stinkin cowards in Congress.

Well, then we'd better empty the place.

Huh?

I want to know what Denny Hastert knew about this and when!

#264 Amalie

He's a Congressman! And yes, he was probably was used and also very, very stupid. We don't need no stinkin cowards in Congress.

I'm not disagreeing. I'm glad he's gone. We don't need his like. All I'm saying is that the immediate resignation isn't the smoking gun that so many are making it out to be. There are explainations for that that don't require a massive conspiracy and cover-up.

/Occam's razor

#273 J.D.

I want to know what Denny Hastert knew about this and when!

I want to know what ABC knew and when...

#272 wintercat 10/5/2006 02:12PM PDT

264 Amalie

We don't need no stinkin cowards in Congress.

Well, then we'd better empty the place.

LOL >>>> LOL

#256 beblebrox

Now wait a minute, you're making the assumption that all gay men are pedophiles, and then you try to cover your arse, pun not intended, and say that all straight men are pedophiles too?

The correct way to cover yourself is to say that you wouldn't send a straight pedophile with teenage girls, as you wouldn't send a gay pedophile with teenage boys.

It's being reported that the Republicans have asked... wait for this.. Louis Freh...

ChenZhen,

Both Lupe Fiasco and Vinny Paz from Jedi Mind Tricks are muslims. Lupe is a faux christian (meaning he thinks mohammed was christ like, which he wasn't). Vinny Paz is a violent jihad wanna-be. Both are morons. JMT sounds good, but like I said, it's a moron on the mic.