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Democratic Party Fauxtoshops Veteran

Sat, Oct 7, 2006 at 6:50:09 pm PDT

I guess The Democratic Party couldn’t find a photograph of a US veteran that had the right attitude for their web site’s page slamming the Bush administration for not supporting the troops enough.

So they found a picture of a Canadian soldier, digitally removed the badge from his beret, and used that instead (see updates below; turns out the original photographer edited the picture). Michelle Malkin has details: DNC supports vets...but from which country?

Someone (mardukhai) tipped me off about this too, and I was preparing a post before I knew Michelle had already broken it. Because I hate for all this work to go to waste, here’s the screenshot of their page, linked above:

Here’s the photoshopped image:

And here’s a zoomed-in version showing the incredibly obvious rubber-stamping and blurring of the badge area:

This is how they show us the depth of their caring and support for US soldiers—with a faked image of a member of another country’s military.

UPDATE at 10/7/06 8:01:58 pm:

LGF reader MeanMrMustard discovered the original:

UPDATE at 10/7/06 8:25:26 pm:

Here’s our Canadian soldier in a better mood, no longer fretting about the ill treatment he’s received from the Republicans. (Hat tip: Catttt.)

UPDATE at 10/7/06 9:32:08 pm:

There is also a version of this photo posted at iStockPhoto that has been photoshopped to remove the badge, so it’s possible that the DNC didn’t do the alteration themselves, but went searching for a picture of a soldier looking grim and seized on this one without noticing (or apparently, caring) that it wasn’t a US soldier.

UPDATE at 10/7/06 10:10:18 pm:

Florida Cracker makes a similar observation:

LGF is claiming a Democratic photoshop on the cap insignia, but iStock’s photo is without it. Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence (as I need to keep telling my own self). They went for a free iStock photo of a soldier, and had no clue what an American one looked like.

UPDATE at 10/8/06 8:55:38 am:

I believe the badge was probably removed before uploading to iStockPhoto because they have a policy of not accepting photos with trademarks or identifying marks, which they specifically define to include military decorations.

UPDATE at 10/8/06 9:24:13 am:

Just received this email from the photographer:

Hi,

Some of you asked me about the photo in question. I am the one who took these pictures. So to clarify some things:

I am selling my photos at Istockphoto.com which is by the way a nice and affordable site for buying photographs.

So the Democratic Party should have bought the photo on this site. Yes, he is a canadian soldier. Now, Istockphoto doesn’t accept photographs wich contain certain copyrighted elements like brand names, insignia, etc. Therefore I myself got rid of the insignia on the soldiers cap when I put it on for sale.

Regarding the second photo, on which the same soldier is smiling , the insignia is there on the cap, but if you zoom on it, you will see that it is blurred out, so copyrighted elements are not visible. Again I did that myself because of the above mentioned reason.

I hope this clarifies some things,

Best regards,
Arpad Benedek

And please, if you use my photos, buy them at Istockphoto.com They are copyrighted.

Thanks for the note, Arpad. (And I did indeed purchase the smiling soldier photo above.)

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1 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:51:57pm

Last!

/moonbat

2 new_tommy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:52:55pm

How tacky can they get?

Is it really that hard to find a picture of an authentic American soldier?

3 Midwest  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:52:57pm

Fake but accurate.
/sarc off

4 Greg  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:54:12pm

Democrap Party...Party of C*nts...

What a cheap sleazy trick...I hate the fookin' Repub. Reptiles but am going to vote the straight party line for first time in my life.

5 Max DarkSide  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:54:25pm

We Support the Canadian Troops!

/DNC...

6 Albemarle  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:54:37pm

I am shocked shocked!
/

7 godfrey  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:54:45pm

What exactly has the DNC contributed to the war effort?

8 Silhouette  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:55:20pm

WHY? WHY? WHY?

I cannot for the life of me answer that. Surely, finding a suitable photo of a US serviceperson would be faster than spending the time photoshopping.

It's like George on Seinfeld spending more time and effort to fake his job hunt than it would take to just look for a job.

9 DockScience  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:55:31pm

Democrats have lived in a world where they didn't need to ever tell the truth as their media pals would cover for them.

This is just a minor example of their lack of integrity.

10 Stringart  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:56:46pm

The Poppy is used extensively in the British Commonwealth for Rememberance Day, November 11. It comes from "In Flanders Fields" written by a Canadian in WWI.

It is not used in the US, to the best of knowledge.

11 Bubbaman  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:57:40pm

I think the DNC had better spend some more of Sorass' money to buy some better fauxphotoshopers.

12 americanpundit  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:57:48pm

They couldn't apparently find a US troop willing to bash Bush. Moonbats, Moonbats, whatcha gonna do...

13 wanderer  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:58:44pm

Oh for the old days before the internet.It was so nice when the DNC, the lamestream media, the liberals. and the news services could pull of fauxtography fraud and pass it off as factual news.

14 rabidfox  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:59:03pm

Just what was the purpose of this fauxtagraphy? What is it that they saw in this photo that they just HAD to use? It is so totally pointless.

15 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:59:19pm

I have been reading the Democratic blog website since the 2004 election. They claim to have links to articles and info for military veterans and their families. About the only thing they link to over there is news about John Murtha's latest rants or casualty repoprts, complete with Bush bashing.

As a military mom, I try to stay current with DOD releases and legislation dealing with veterans. You will find nothing helpful on the DNC website concerning those things.

They do NOT support the troops - Do not be fooled. There are never any links to organizations supporting our soldiers at holidays or any other times. Nothing.

16 brent  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:59:38pm

Now wait, I watch South Park - I thought that Canadians head's open up right in the middle ala Terence and Philip?

That aside, at least they didn't use Boy Scouts and draw on fake stubble...

17 ArcherB  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:59:52pm

And why not show the Canadian military. After all, that is where Clinton served during his Vietnam years!

18 Windhorse  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 4:59:55pm

what an utter disgrace.

19 listen to the warm  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:00:44pm
20 rtheyserius  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:01:49pm

Um, maybe it's me, and I'm a (somewhat) old photoshop hand, but I'm not seeing the "incredibly obvious" rubber-stamping and blurring effect.

What part of it is incredibly obvious?

21 Airedale  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:02:19pm

?

Maybe soldiers in the US army refused to sign waivers to let the dem party use their image...to further the DNC's own self interest ways.

I wouldn't trust them

?

I wonder if this Cannuck gave his permission to use his image ?

ya never know.

22 Albemarle  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:03:02pm

I suspect a large portion of the moonfolk do not understand that Canada is a separate nation .

23 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:03:14pm

You wanna know why they picked a Canadian serviceman?
1) American troops are teh evil, so we can't use one of them.
2) Using the Fwench or Soviets is out of the question, too obvious.
3) Canada is socialist, Western, and resembles American close enough to be fauxtoshopped.
Mystery solved.

/The Dumbocrats are SO obvious sometimes

24 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:03:24pm

Can I call them "lying sacks of shit"? Yes? Okay.

Ya'll are a bunch of lying sacks of shit. You wouldn't know the meaning of the word honor if it jumped up and bit Bill Clinton's crooked dick.

25 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:03:48pm

Way to go Dimocrats! um... Democrats?

So sad for my home state of Minnesota who has favored these idiots this party for decades.

26 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:03:49pm

I feel sooo much better now.

27 pbird  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:04:07pm

rtheyserious, there's big fuzzy area on the hat that shouldn't be there. It seems to be standing out even.

28 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:04:38pm

Looks like the Dems have the Canadian vet vote locked up.

29 new_tommy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:04:45pm

Most likely explanation: sheer laziness.

Can anyone find the original image?

30 Airedale  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:05:23pm

#20 rtheyserius

I'm only an ex Navy guy but don't the army types have some sort of unit logo or patch attached to that bare naked spot of their beret's ?

any assist from ex army types?

31 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:05:36pm

It's quite simple why they used the Canadian soldier instead of an American soldier.

They truly do not know the difference in uniforms. This area is so unfamiliar to them it would be like me picking out an Austrian accent versus a German one. They DO NOT RECOGNIZE IT!

32 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:06:16pm

Wait a minute. That's a green beret. The only people who wear green berets in America are members of the Special Forces.

33 TealCat  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:06:40pm

#20: look specificly at the wrinkles the the side, and see how they utterly disappear at a specific point; To me it's actually more obvous in the zoomed out version, as there's a very clear rectangle that just looks like grey muck, with no real detail at all, surrounded by wrinkles, etc..

34 RepJ  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:06:43pm

Oh jeez. That's so easy to pick out why didn't I see it before? What a sneaky way to get around actually having to support AMERICAN troops.

35 pat  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:06:48pm

Kerry must have been in charge.

36 MarineGrunt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:07:00pm

#10 Stringart

The Poppy is used extensively in the British Commonwealth for Rememberance Day, November 11. It comes from "In Flanders Fields" written by a Canadian in WWI.

It is not used in the US, to the best of knowledge.

The Poppy is used here in the states, Memorial Day, they are made by disabled veterans groups.

37 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:07:01pm

The Army combat uniform, with beret:

[Link: www.dtc.army.mil...]

38 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:07:24pm

Why are there no US soldiers/military personnel pictured on this page dedicated to vets?

Why are Canadians pictured?

Posted by GreenMtBoy on October 7, 2006 at 08:55 PM

Response;

Why are Canadians pictured?
Posted by GreenMtBoy on October 7, 2006 at 08:55 PM

fool--no, damned fool

did you come to play slap-happy with Willie? i'm out...say hi to Benji, fool

---

Posted by fade2bluz on October 7, 2006 at 09:18 PM

---
fade2bluz

Was that an answer to why American military personnel are not represented on a Democratic website page dedicated to us vets, but rather Canadians?

Is your post what passes for intelligent discourse?

Posted by GreenMtBoy on October 7, 2006 at 09:24 PM

Heh!

39 leap_frog  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:07:25pm

The poppy gave it away to me, right off, unreal.

40 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:07:47pm

Bu the way, the Army beret is black, not olive green.

41 pbird  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:09:09pm

OK, so its a beret. Sorry I couldn't think of the word.

42 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:09:26pm

#38 BenZ

'fade2bluz' is a particulary vicious communist that holds a lot of power over there at the DNC blog.

43 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:09:39pm

Also the badge is missing from the shoulder boards, the right side one is badly erased, see the hump?

44 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:10:25pm

#30 Airedale

My ex was an geenie beanie and his beret had a patch on the left (or, right? It's been a while since I saw the rat). I've got it around here somewhere to give to my son when he wants to know more about his father. I'll go get it.

45 maddogg  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:11:07pm

You must understand a couple of things about the Democratic party. 1. Anyone who voluntarily chooses to serve in the Armed Forces is a sap. 2. The general public is too stupid to see the difference. Thats why they need the Democratic Party to do their thinking for them. Understand?

46 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:11:16pm

BTW - you can register and post immediately over there. Try it if you can stand it.

47 Silhouette  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:12:08pm

They clearly knew he was Canadian, or not American, otherwise, why the photoshop?

48 freedomplow  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:12:22pm

They did it on purpose.

They are trying to fire-up their anti-American base.

You know... Their biggest supporters.

49 new_tommy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:12:50pm

The subliminal message: "We support our troops, we just wish they were in a different country!"

50 Bob's Kid  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:13:07pm

Well, if it weren't for the sad fact that this whole thing shows terrible disrespect of our men and women in uniform it would be freakin' hysterical.

I mean, how stupid can you get?

/oh, it's the DNC...never mind.

51 Silhouette  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:13:12pm

Does the top photo of the diverse happy crowd with their fists in the air remind anyone of this?

52 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:15:31pm

46 mamma..

Guess what?

53 Stringart  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:15:42pm

#36 MarineGrunt

Thanks, I didn't know that.

54 bonz  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:16:03pm

Obvious that they aren't US. They are wearing poppies. Traditionally worn on war remembrance day. Our Veterans day. One guy has RAF or RCAF jump badge

55 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:16:10pm

It's okay, Speaker Pelosi is going to "drain the Republican swamp" in her first 100 hours.

/America will be in good hands, you'll see

56 Nancy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:17:00pm

Probably easy to find a photo of a vet, maybe more difficult to get the vet's permission to use it for their purposes!

Has the man in the forefront been superimposed into the picture as well? If he is in dress uniform for some occassion the others are in green uniforms but have the same hats. Which you can see some of the emblem on the hat in the background.

57 MarineGrunt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:17:51pm

Not only was the insignia eliminated from the beret, the insignia on the jacket lapel and the epaulet have been rubber stamped too.

58 Airedale  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:18:25pm

besides the pic , I like the text

NEW POLL shows GOP Broken Promises exct... ect..

A New Poll?

Never do they run out of new polls.

59 pat  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:18:28pm

#47 Silhouette

Ding, Ding, Ding...
So what really gives here?

60 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:18:29pm

#52 BenZ

You dawg you. :)

61 kathyn  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:19:20pm

Man, after the exposure of so much fraud and fauxtography, you'd think they'd learn. Can't outsmart Charles, et al.

62 fluffy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:19:58pm

#30 Airedale


don't the army types have some sort of unit logo or patch attached to that bare naked spot of their beret's ?


It is called a flash and the unit crest gets pinned to it.

any assist from ex army types?

You made a good hard shot from the blue line, but I tipped it past the goalie, eh. Technically, you get the assist. I feel the hockey analogy is appropriate.

63 pat  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:20:24pm

Photo was supplied by Lucy Ramirez.

64 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:21:17pm

mamma...

;^)

65 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:21:43pm

I found two things: one's the SF patch with an upward pointing sword/sabre with three bolts of lightning and a do-hickey with a black field cut down the middle by yellow and red bands. Over it is a parachute with two wings growing out of the bottom, and surmounted by a star encircled with (laurel?) leaves. I don't know if the latter went on his beret.

I rarely saw him in uniform. He wore civilian dress and had hair longer than regular Army.

He was the only person who has ever beaten me at Scrabble. Sometimes we'd play bi-lingually: I with English and Spanish, he with English and Arabic.

If you ignore the abuse, alcohol and adultery, it was a perfect marriage.

May a thousand sand fleas infest his crotch.

66 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:21:44pm

Son of a bitch.

67 dmjung  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:22:29pm

63 pat
Photo was supplied by Lucy Ramirez.

Doesn't she work for K. Rove? :)

68 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:22:45pm

Sorry, lizardoids. I had a flash-back down memory lane.

69 Nancy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:22:52pm

Who says it is even a real soldier or somedressed up as one added to the picture.

Maybe some canadians can compare to the photo on Michelle's site.

The DNC man appears to have the beret on in a different angle than the others --including the men in green in the background.

Doesn't it look like the "flap" with the emblem faces the front? Whereas the DNC photo has the "flap" to the side?

70 Silhouette  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:22:59pm

This photoshop thing is killing me. I see it everywhere now.

I was looking at catalog that had a little girl surrounded by bubbles on the cover, and commented to the vendor that the bubbles were fake because each one of them had identical light/dark patterns.

Darn you LGF!

71 cargocultist  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:23:27pm

#63 Pat -- wow! Lucy Ramirez

72 pat  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:24:17pm

dmjung

Nah. She's Dan Rathers intern.

73 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:24:36pm

Wow... there really is two Americas...

74 Airedale  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:26:02pm

...and the soldiers in the background... the color of those uniforms look..."off"
Looks more like Limey uni's
So,
could they be a formation on Cannucks on a "rembemerance day" event ?

75 new_tommy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:26:52pm

I've been scouring over photos trying to find the picture, but I haven't found anything yet. Typing in "Canadian veterans" in either Yahoo or Google image search brings up a ton of similar results.

76 AZfederalist  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:28:31pm

#51 Silhouette


Does the top photo of the diverse happy crowd with their fists in the air remind anyone of this?


Since all I get from that link is:
Forbidden
Error 403

No, it doesn't remind me of that.

77 Airedale  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:28:35pm

excuse the spelling errors, I'm tired and need to sleep.

78 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:30:05pm

Why?

79 new_tommy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:30:59pm

Image the Dems will replace this photo with:

[Link: www.moz.net.nz...]

80 xenophobic  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:31:55pm

Boy you people have short memories, don't you remember that map that came out after the 2004 elections, obviously this is a soldier from the United States of Canada, rather than Jesusland

81 Stringart  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:32:51pm

Here's a link to the Canadian Defence Department site listing all the insignia worn on the epaulets. As far as I can tell, every rank has an insignia, except for recruits.

If the soldier is a Canadian, he should have insignia and a flash on his beret. And I'm guessing that there should be two collar pins, not one.

82 the_flying_pig  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:34:11pm

The Democratic Party is getting more pathetic than ever before.

People who runs the Democratic Party website are idiots.

83 maddogg  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:35:08pm

So, I live dead center of Jesusland? I cannot tink of anywhere else I'd rather be.

84 Rain Patriot  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:36:13pm

Owned?

85 maddogg  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:36:14pm

uh, think, I think.

86 LSD  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:36:36pm

Wonder what Kos will say ... ?

87 Nancy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:37:34pm

#81 Stringart

Exactly, there should have been other emblems on it.

Which may support the theory that it is not even a real soldier but someone dressed as one and imposed into the photo with the others.

When military give away or get rid of their uniforms don't they remove all the emblems and medals?

88 6patrick6  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:37:35pm

#8 silhouette

...suitable photo of a US serviceperson

OK, folks. There is NO SUCH THING as a "serviceperson". Enough of the PC bullshit, already! You can have the following:
Servicemember, serviceman, servicewoman, or service personnel

US Air Force personnel are referred to as:
AIRMAN. Regardless of sex or rank. Note: There are NO "airpeople", "airperson", or "airwoman". Period, dot!
US Navy personnel are referred to as:
SAILOR. Regardless of sex or rank.

US Army personnel are referred to as:
SOLDIER. Regardless of sex or rank.

US Marines are referred to as:
MARINE. Regardless of sex or rank.

Please, please, please, when referring to the US armed services and their people, do so correctly. It doesn't take that much to do it right.

89 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:37:41pm

82 the flying pig

Yes they are idiots and they obviously do not know anyone actually in the military.

Or their dad never was in the military; how hard would it be to get a real photo if they were in touch with actual military? It would be easy.

But it is all an abstraction for them.

90 theparson  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:37:50pm
According to a poll release this week by VoteVets.org Action Fund, 42 percent of the veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan reported receiving sub-standard equipment while on duty.

Every person that has ever been in the military thinks their equipment is sub-standard. I was a CH-53D crewchief. My equipment was sub-par. I'm a cop and my vest doesn't fit, I don't have an AR, my car is a rattle-trap... We deal with it!

91 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:38:07pm

80 xenophobic

How could I forgotten about living in Jesusland?

92 pat  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:38:55pm

Amalie. Exactly. See my 47. Why? This is actually guite serious when you think of it. First we hhear the Dems sat on the Foley IM crap since April, but accussed Hassert of not protecting the pages (the target left 3 years earlier) when he knew for 3 days. Now we have this fraud. Something is wrong here. The adults have gone. The Dems are getting creepy.

93 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:39:15pm

#88 6patrick6 10/7/2006 07:37PM PDT


#8 silhouette

...suitable photo of a US serviceperson

OK, folks. There is NO SUCH THING as a "serviceperson". Enough of the PC bullshit, already! You can have the following:
Servicemember, serviceman, servicewoman, or service personnel

Damn! You're right. Another huge gaffe.

94 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:39:21pm
95 MeanMrMustard  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:39:30pm

Here's the source of the photos.

Canadian photographer Arpad Benedek,

source


another view


here is a better unretouched one from his website

(Definately not US Army)


under the heading of "People" at this site

Guess no one at DNC knows what a US Army Soldier looks like, which is no surprise.

96 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:39:55pm

#82 the flying pig

This is the person currently in charge of the DNC blog - they have been through several.

97 whiterasta  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:40:32pm

As a Canadian,I'm really embarrased that the Democratic Party of the USA would do such a poor job of using Canadian soldiers to make political points.

Embarrased, but not surprised.

I don't ususally comment on American domestic politics, not being a citizen of your great country.

This is really quite poor taste, even for Democrats.

98 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:40:43pm

#96 me - addendum

Note that in this picture, she is at a KOS convention.

99 Airedale  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:40:44pm

#94 Cattt
Thats it

The Remberence day flower.

100 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:41:11pm

92 pat

It is creepy. It's amazing. The whole context of the ad was how the DEMS care for our military... AND THEY ARE SO LAZY THEY CAN'T EVEN PUT ONE PHOTO OF ONE OUR GUYS!

101 theparson  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:41:31pm
Close to two-thirds believe the wars have left the Army and the Marine Corps overextended at this time.

Every war leaves the Army and Marine Corps overextended. We have an all volunteer military. If the dems are really concerned about the state of the military perhaps they should encourage their children to join the military like I did and like my son is now.

102 dmjung  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:41:58pm

I found the DNC's first choice for a uniformed guy, but they wanted someone who wasn't smiling cause you know the military is all pissed now cause they hafta be fighting and stuff like that: [Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

103 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:42:56pm

Found it - at Stock Photo - here - [Link: www.istockphoto.com...]

104 mardukhai  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:43:00pm

Hey -- Attack all the DMC Dhimmicrats you want.

But I'm the one who discovered this photoshopping, and I'm still a Democrat -- you know Harry Truman, JFK, Scoop Jackson, etc.

So please be more specific. It's LIBERALS who are the enemy! (In fact, all ideologues are the enemy.)

It's my party.

HARUMPH!

105 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:43:12pm

I hope this photoshopped DNC story is 1/3 - 1/2 as big as the smoking default "th" superscript brou-ha-ha.

106 Airedale  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:43:43pm

Lets not forget the dems favorite Winter Soldiers

[Link: ice.he.net...]


Un-foto shopped images;

[Link: ice.he.net...]

107 fluffy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:43:51pm

#95 MeanMrMustard

Guess no one at DNC knows what a US Army Soldier looks like, which is no surprise.

Nice find, Sir!

I am going to play Abbey Road in your honor.

108 Stringart  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:44:09pm

#87 Nancy

The DoD FAQ said that uniforms are loaners and must be returned when leaving the military.

Again I'm guessing, but I would think that insignia, etc. also belong to the military; medals, because they are earned, belong to the soldier.

109 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:44:35pm

6patrick6

Well sonny, back in my day, we had WAVEs, WAFs, WACs and BAMs (Broad assed Marines).

110 jingoisticirredentist  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:44:42pm

Fake photographs for Fake support.

111 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:44:54pm

This just blows my mind. Who needs mind altering drugs when we have the Democratic political party?

112 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:46:12pm
#104 mardukhai 10/7/2006 07:43PM PDT

Hey -- Attack all the DMC Dhimmicrats you want.

Well, who put out this ad?

113 new_tommy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:46:24pm

#103

Great job Cattt.

114 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:47:10pm

#97 whiterasta

How about writing your elected officials and military folks to register a protest?

115 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:47:40pm

109 BenZachiaria

What did BAM really, offcially mean?

116 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:47:47pm

CATTT

Hope you told Charles...

Great find!

117 dmjung  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:48:23pm

103 Cattt
Found it - at Stock Photo - here - [Link: www.istockpho...]

Eggzelent! I can hear the meeting now..."but you said get a picture of a soldier in uniform..."

118 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:48:45pm

Weird photo - Stock Photo apparently airbrushed the badge off the beret - it's definitely airbrushed, imho. Guess they wanted to make it generic.

Plus the Dems are cheap - this pic was royalty free.

119 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:49:10pm

#95 MeanMrMustard 10/7/2006 07:39PM PDT

Guess no one at DNC knows what a US Army Soldier looks like, which is no surprise.

The ones in their database have them bitting off the heads of iraqi 'chirren'.

120 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:49:43pm

Cattt

I noticed that the Dems cropped the print of the soldier because look at his medals?

121 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:49:57pm

116 Amalie

I e-mailed him. I'm afraid of the janitorial engineer. :) Feel free to janitize it.

122 bonz  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:49:57pm

#104 mardukhai

But I'm the one who discovered this photoshopping, and I'm still a Democrat -- you know Harry Truman, JFK, Scoop Jackson, etc.

You must be lonely.

123 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:50:09pm

Who is this photographer?

124 6patrick6  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:50:17pm

That is definitely a Canadian Forces (CF)uniform. Canada unified their army, air force, and navy into a single force in February 1968. He is probably a senior NCO. The beret would have a crown of some sort on it, depending on which land, maritime, or air command he is assigned to.

125 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:50:26pm

The Democratic Party wouldn't recognize a real American Soldier if he hit them in the face. Which I would strongly encourage.

126 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:50:48pm

104 mardukhai

I'm a Dem too. :)

127 MeanMrMustard  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:51:04pm

see my #95 - 3rd photo down.

[Link: www.students.yorku.ca...]

128 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:51:30pm

Well the insignia on the hat is already gone on the stock photo page.

So maybe the DNC did not remove it.

129 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:51:39pm

103 Cattt

I janitized your post!

130 brickthruplateglasswindow  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:51:51pm
#95 MeanMrMustard

Here's the source of the photos.

Canadian photographer Arpad Benedek,

No question about it. Dems Pwn3d.

131 Airedale  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:51:58pm

#108 Stringart
Not exactly true.
I srtill have a seabag full of old ubniforms around...somewhere. Same goes for the medals
I'm sure the navy didn't want them back and I'm sure they will never fit me again !
:=)

132 Stringart  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:52:00pm

#94 Cattt

I copied that picture into Word and stretched it out - I'm not a photoshopping kind of person - and I'm sure her upper right arm has CANADA across it.

It sure looks like a "DA" at the end.

133 Etaoin Shrdlu  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:52:54pm

#103 Cattt -- So the Democrats didn't photoshop it; it's just that none of them know what an American uniform looks like.

134 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:53:07pm

If you mouse over the pic at Stock Photo, you'll see its title is Remembrance Day - November, which is a UK holiday to remember those who fell serving their country - like the US Veteran's Day.

135 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:53:18pm

127 Mean Mr Mustard

Cool.. Charles should see this..

The insignia is still on his cap... (the soldier)

136 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:54:34pm

127 MeanMrMustard

Woot! Did you e-mail Charles?

137 6patrick6  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:54:50pm

#109 BZ ---

We used those terms for the women up to the mid-'80s, when the PC bullshit started weaving its way into the way the military was doing business. Then suddenly, they weren't "proper" anymore.

138 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:55:21pm

He sure looks sharper with the insignia on his beret.

139 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:55:30pm

#94

That's a Canadian Soldier.

The giveaway is the big goddammed "CANADA" on the shoulder.

140 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:56:11pm

So, anyone have the guy's name yet?

:)

141 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:56:24pm

#133 Etaoin Shrdlu 10/7/2006 07:52PM PDT

#103 Cattt -- So the Democrats didn't photoshop it; it's just that none of them know what an American uniform looks like.

It still could have been photoshopped.. see post # 127...

When did the insignia get photoshopped off the beret? Someone did it and when and why was it done?

142 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:57:14pm

As a side note, I just did a photo-tour of Remembrance Day celebrations of the far-flung UK. Very touching. (not sarc)

143 irongrampa  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:57:15pm

why on earth should this come as any surprise, the left has NEVER shown any support for the military

144 whiterasta  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:57:20pm

#114, Mandy Manners:..

..."How about writing your elected officials and military folks to register a protest?.."

Thanks, but certainly not.

It would be completely out of line for any non citizen of the USA to comment on any aspect of the way you Yanks run your domestic politics.

I know what I think in my heart, but as a non citizen I will keep my mouth shut.

To do anything else would be rude, insulting to America and out of line.

145 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:57:38pm

"Gee, Stock Photo altered the image, it is their fault; the image was altered so we couldn't tell that it wasn't a US soldier."

probable DNC spin.

146 Stringart  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:57:50pm

#131 Airedale

Maybe that's why our military is so small - we only have so many uniforms and have to wait for someone to give 'em back before we can recruit a new guy. :)

147 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:57:52pm

#94

ANd the brits don't have those MC7 rifles

148 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:58:12pm

I meant C7 rifles

149 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:58:21pm

Oh, it's shopped - the blotch on the beret is obvious, but more to the point - what soldier would fail to wear the badge of his regiment?

150 Silhouette  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:58:25pm

So it appears the insignia were not removed by the DNC, but the stock photo came that way. Which answers my question of why. Not a grand conspiracy. Just a case of grabbing a photo, not knowing uniforms, and lack of fact-checking.

151 6patrick6  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:58:27pm

The poppy is for the observance of Remembrance Day. Keep in mind, the Canadians are still considered part of the Commonwealth. A Canadian military office will have a picture of the Queen prominantly displayed.

152 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:58:33pm

Cattt

From your link... the photographer, Arpad Benedek, has "copyright" on the photo.

Who took Mean Mr Mustard's photo?

153 vtsurgeon  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:59:15pm

In the US Navy, officers receive a uniform allowance which probably covered the cost of the uniforms circa 1952. We have the privilege of paying the balance of the cost out of pocket.

Insignia of rank are paid for out of pocket.

Medals are free, should you earn one.

You keep your uniforms when you leave the military, but they must be stripped of insignia of rank if worn in some nonmilitary context thereafter.

154 brickthruplateglasswindow  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:59:16pm

Question...

If someone mailed the Dems a political contribution based on that picture and accompanying caption/story could the Dems then be charged with mail fraud?

155 Etaoin Shrdlu  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:59:41pm

Hmm; I've now looked at the DNC page in three different browsers, and it's completely messed up in all of them. Bad politics is one thing, but bad HTML? Unforgivable!

156 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 5:59:49pm
145 Ojoe 10/7/2006 07:57PM PDT
"Gee, Stock Photo altered the image, it is their fault; the image was altered so we couldn't tell that it wasn't a US soldier."

probable DNC spin.

Uh huh. And how will they explain the title of the photo - "Remembrance Day - November"?

It would be fun to hear them try.

157 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:00:15pm

#95

Good work. This man is a Canadian SOldier from the Royal Canadian Regiment (RCR).

158 maddogg  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:01:32pm

#104 mardukhai

Heh, thats like saying you are of a member of the Tyrannasaurus Rex party, and that party is just as extinct.

159 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:02:10pm

Mean Mr Mustard's photo link is the original, at least I think so.

Cattt's link is the next one, it isn't cropped as much as the one in the DNC ad but the beret insignia is now gone.

The DNC photo is the 3rd version of this photo. No more medals.

160 MeanMrMustard  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:02:20pm

#136 Cattt

Yes, sent to Charles, and to Michelle too, she has had a page up about it today.


[Link: michellemalkin.com...]


Abdul

161 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:03:18pm

Anyone find the happy people shaking their fists pic yet? :)

162 mardukhai  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:03:26pm

#57 MarineGrunt

I also noticed that the lapel and the epaulet were blank, but the blow up wasn't quite as conclusive as the beret.

163 Etaoin Shrdlu  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:03:29pm

I wonder whether the soldier signed a model release? If not, wouldn't it be nice if he sued the Democrats for defamation of character?

164 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:03:51pm

156 Cattt

Uh huh. And how will they explain the title of the photo - "Remembrance Day - November"?

It would be fun to hear them try.

Ahem:


"We're so dislexic."

165 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:04:00pm

The photographer, Arpad Benedek, is Hungarian.

Good lord, is there anything American in this photo?

166 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:04:21pm

#95

And all the medals of course, are Canadian. He has been on several U.N. tours oversees. This was taken during the Rememberance day ceremonies. Canadian soldiers only wear the Poppy on the week of Nov 11, never any other time.

He is wearing the DEU uniform, number one if I recall correctly.

167 Silhouette  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:04:21pm

Keywords listed on page with stock photo

achievment
battle
canadian
commander
day
decoration
distinction
fight
fighter
honor
honours
insignia
man
memorial
november
officer
remember
remembrance
serious
service
soldier
soldiers
uniform
veteran
veterans

168 xenophobic  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:04:41pm

#83 maddogg
As a British expatriate, I cannot think of anywhere else in the world I would rather be than in Jesusland! :)

169 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:05:35pm

Oh no! I have the wrong one..

I think this is our man... from... Canada!

Location: North York, Ontario (Canada)

Business Name: Arpad Benedek

[Link: www.istockphoto.com...]

170 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:05:52pm

I got sidetracked at Stock Photo. :)

171 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:07:00pm

Maybe if they or any member of their family had ever served their country in uniform, they would be familiar with the whole military fashion thing. Odd that no one - no one - caught the mistake over there.

Yeah, they support the troops. They just have yet to meet any.

172 Airedale  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:07:11pm

146 Stringart

Before we went to sea, there would be giant boxes of foul weather gear and jackets opened up for a free for all grab fest.
The jackets and flight deck pants would be handed out and you would put them on right there. Kinda like Christmas shopping at the Goodwill store !
If they fit, fine, if not, ya throw them back into the free for all pile..

Come to think of it, The Navy did want my foul weather gear back. They didn't exactly say you can't leave until you throw the stuff back in the free for all box =:o
Being stationed in Florida...they didn't exactly "sweat" that a jacket was missing.

173 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:07:34pm

170 Cattt

Now Now

174 MeanMrMustard  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:08:05pm

Charles has added the original pic to the top of the thread!

175 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:08:51pm

160 MeanMrMustard

I see that now. Start on the last name, hon. :)

176 CowardKerry  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:08:58pm

Typical, dems are losers.

177 maddogg  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:09:17pm

#168 Xenophobic
You are a welcome addition. There is no American like a converted American! (stolen and modified phrase).

178 x-ray  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:10:14pm

It really just comes down to cherry picking. Most soldiers both Canadian and American believe in the cause they are fighting for. Just as out of any population of over a million you can find the opposite opinion is no surprise I.E. Wesley Clarke. You just have to look harder and this just proves those looking are the ultimate in lazy and maybe dishonest.

179 Greg  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:10:17pm

Democraps trying to fake a fauxto of a Canadian Forces soldier as an American soldier...

Their Party is SO LAME...I thought the Repubs. were fook-ups but Donks have NO MIND!

180 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:10:39pm

Okay, so look at the uniform and especially the badge. Does it look like this?

181 SuperdaveTWC  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:12:57pm

#30 Airedale

This is not a US Army uniform. The Beret does not even have the blue backing with white stars upon which the unit crest (for enlisted) or the rank (for officers and warrant officers) is pinned.

The goofy red circle thing is totally alien, and is not used in any US Army uniform in this way.

The lack of a circular brass emblem with corps insignia on the left lapel and the lack of a circlular brass emblem with "US" on the right lapel are dead givaways.

Even the jacket color is wrong.

This picture is an embarrasing hoax!

182 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:13:03pm

So stop looking. This is an RCR soldier (an NCM) in his DEU 1s, during a rememberance day parade.

183 fluffy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:13:20pm

#176 CowardKerry

He put his insignia on his uniform before he took it off.

184 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:14:02pm

They are ignoring this latest information over on the DNC blog. Posters have tried to bring it up (ahem) and have been labeled as POS trolls.

A good night's work, eh BZ? :)

regards,
Jared

185 NY Nana  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:14:09pm
186 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:14:25pm

May I also say, by the way, that they have definitely chosen the wrong people to fuck with?

187 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:16:00pm

Did anyone link the happy version?

I can see why the Dems didn't use this one. :)

188 Canadian Imperialist Running Dog  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:16:24pm

My wifey also points out that he's short a couple of things he should have, and is for some reason wearing his full decorations, and not his salad bar. Looking at the insignia that is missing from the DNC photo, he appears to be from a electrician/engineering unit.

189 TheLeague  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:17:04pm

There's no one at home at the Dem Party website.

The image is still up. They don't recognize the increase in traffic? They don't see the LGF referral URL (or whatever it's called)?

This reminds me of the Kerry website fiasco during the 04 election when they had open registration for that bulletin board for volunteers.

They still don't get it.

190 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:17:59pm

Did I mention they were the wrong guys to fuck with?

191 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:19:09pm

#189 the League

The DNC blogsite is sometimes unmonitored for the whole weekend. When one person has to go to the bathroom over there, the whole operation shuts down.

Currently one of our friends is getting called a 'fairypancakepedophileloving POS troll ' over there. Good times :)

192 jwbaumann  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:20:02pm

I can see the photoshopping out of the insignia on the left lapel.

This had better blow up huge in the Dhimm's face. I can't wait to see their excuses. They'll blame it on some low level graphic artist who will remain nameless.

193 MikalM  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:20:41pm

[I wrote the following letter to the Canadian Forces' PR office (information@forces.gc.ca)]:

Dear Sir/Madam,

Please take a look at the image of the soldier on the following Web page:

[Link: www.democrats.org...]

(If the image has been taken down, you can see the original version at [Link: michellemalkin.com...] )

You will notice that this organization is using the image of a Canadian solder, wearing his distinctive uniform, to make political points about American military affairs.

I believe this is not only a laughable mistake on the part of this Web site, but an ignorant and disrespectful conflating of your nation's military with ours. Canada has long been a loyal ally of the United States, and I respect her fighting men and women too much to see them erroneously used for cheap political fodder.

Any comments about this can be sent to the Web site's owners here: [Link: www.democrats.org...]

Thank you for your time. God bless our two free nations!

MikalM

194 Amalie  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:20:59pm

I just sent an email to the photographer.

195 x-ray  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:21:15pm

GOP not supporting our troops enough? Why is it every other country gets a pass on sending their troops into this area in basicly WW2 jeeps and no body armor? Yet we are expected to make our soildiers ride in heavy veicles and wear heavy body armor they may not want.

196 Airedale  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:21:23pm

187 Cattt
yeah I saw that happy version.
That badge on the beret reminds me of the badge worn by Barney Fife and Sherriff Andy Griffith :)

[Link: aolsearcht5.search.aol.com...]

197 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:22:49pm

180 dak

If you go to google, images, and type in "Canadian Badges" you wil see the badge on the third page of the badge images.

I tried to post the link but it came out all wonky.

Maybe some more skillful lizard caan get the badge image up.

198 MarineGrunt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:23:52pm

#109 BenZacharia

BAMs (Broad assed Marines).


Whooeee, Haven't heard that one in years, brings back lots of fond memories.

Try calling the WM's (Women Marine) of today, one would end up with a bloody nose, so I've been told.

199 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:24:32pm

#188

Okay, how many times do I have to say it:

RCR.

Infanteer.

Canadian.

Rememberance day

DEU 1 Uniform

200 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:25:07pm

Here is a pic of the Royal Canadian Regiment's badge.

And here is their Web site.

201 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:25:57pm

199 dak

Do they really call it infanteer, not infantry? It sounds like a baby brigade. :)

202 TheLeague  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:27:17pm

#191 Mama Winger

They have learned NOTHING from that 2004 debacle. I remember one poster placed an altered image of Kerry in a bath filled with rose petals. It was up there for HOURS.

If they can't get down basic website maintenance, why would anyone trust them with the "maintenance" of anything else?

203 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:27:30pm
198 MarineGrunt 10/7/2006 08:23PM PDT
#109 BenZacharia

BAMs (Broad assed Marines).

Whooeee, Haven't heard that one in years, brings back lots of fond memories.

Try calling the WM's (Women Marine) of today, one would end up with a bloody nose, so I've been told.



That is correct. I've known a few women Marines, and most definitely that is correct.

204 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:27:32pm

#201

It's varnacular. The trade is 031 Infantry. Or death tech, as we call them.

Look at the picture. Does he look like the baby brigade to you?

205 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:31:00pm

I would also like to draw your attention to the guys in the background: Look at the green combat uniforms. Those are canadian "combats" the green is unmistakable.


I would say it was taken more than a few years ago, the Canadian camouflage is now CADPATs pattern.

206 6patrick6  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:31:49pm

#181 dak --- That is, indeed a CF uniform. This gentleman is a Colonel, as evidenced by the four stripes around the jacket sleeves. He is from the same regiment as the fauxtoshpped gentleman, as well.

Canadian Forces rank is worn on the sleeves or on the shoulder boards/epaulets for officers, depending on the uniform. Enlisted and Warrant officers wear theirs on the epaulet or sleeve, also depending on the uniform worn.

Officer rank: [Link: images.ask.com...]

207 ctrlL  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:33:03pm
198 MarineGrunt
#109 BenZacharia

BAMs (Broad assed Marines).



LOL ... have to tell my Mom that someone remembers that term. She's (84 years old) circa 1944 BAM and damn proud of it.

/me too !

208 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:34:13pm
209 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:34:30pm

#206

Thanks, but I'm up to speed on all of that. I was just trying to stop all the guessing going on the thread. As soon as MrMustard found the real photo, and we could see the badge, it was a matter of stopping all the guessing.

210 imploder  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:35:30pm

I really admire Canada's military, as well as the Brits. I know it is not germane to the subject, but they are tough as hell, and damn nice guys.

I remember the story of the Iranian hostage rescue attempt, and the mission failure at Desert One, when a helo clipped the horizontal stabilizer of a FARRP C-130 and caused a deadly conflagration bringing the mission to an end.

The Brits left a pallet of beer at the forward operating base with a simple note addressed to the Americans: For having the guts to try."

This later became the title of a book that chronicled the history of the event and the birth of modern Special Operations forces as we know them today.

211 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:35:30pm

204 dak

It's a joke, dak. Infant-eer. Infant. Get it? Jab jab wink wink? J.O.K.E.

/geez

212 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:36:33pm

Plus the fact that my Platoon 2 i/c, in BOTC, wore that Badge.

213 Nancy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:36:50pm

Also the quote they use about the substandard equipment.

Wasn't there a request by the administration in the beginning of the war for additional funding for the military equipment that some of the Democrats voted against? That included pay raises for military too?

I seem to recall that was the one that Kerry flubbed on --he voted for it but voted against it.

214 MKSheppard  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:37:01pm

This is almost as funny as MOVEON using the Russian Flag.

Link to Screenshot I made, with a picture of the russian flag inset

215 curt9988  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:37:40pm

If I were Howard Dean, I'd start scheduling mandatory Photoshop training for all Democrats. And I thought I sucked at photo editing ...

216 StuLongIsland  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:38:49pm

This whole thing reminds me of when Newsday, Long Island's Daily Rag and Democratic Party's Allie, ran a promotion which took up a page, several days for some Veteran or Military honoring event (I forgot which one(s). This was sometime this Summer. They had a fake Marine. Marines I know and Vets who notified the Marines, could see how the whole uniform was wrong.

I have never had the privalege to serve, and as a member of the general public, not know where goes what medal's and badges, but there are people out there who do. How such a professional paper, allowed this, I don't know. Obviously must have been people who just pain the military as they see it in their left wing minds.

217 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:38:55pm

#211

Allright, allright. Hard to tell after this thread.

You know how it is: I can call my wife a bimbo but I get upset if anybody else does!

218 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:40:43pm

210 imploder

That is very touching - I'd never heard about that before.

The book is in print! Yay!

As a former English teacher, pardon me while I quote Victorian poetry:

“Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?” (Robert Browning)

219 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:41:22pm

#217 dak

I tease everyone, hon. :)

220 Bobblehead  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:42:26pm

Found this comment over at the Demdummy blog..

Fade, things are getting desparte for them to keep poking their nasty noses here.

You're right. Things are getting desparte.

LOL

221 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:43:09pm

6patrick6

I'm BenZ
BabbaZee is BZ

222 scorched earth 138  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:43:39pm

...They STILL have that fauxtograph up on site!

223 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:44:02pm

Ben - Hi

Love, Jared

224 imploder  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:44:17pm

#216

I have never had the privalege to serve, and as a member of the general public, not know where goes what medal's and badges, but there are people out there who do.

Stu,
Military people are the worst about pointing out errors they see in professional publications concerning uniforms, decorations, regalia, even safety gear. You'd see a picture of a crew chief crawling over an F-15 with non-approved gloves on while refueling and the letters to the editor of Airman magazine would read like so:

"I saw the picture of Airman Bagodoughnuts working on the F-15 and would like to point out some obvious errors. He was wearing the incorrect gloves for refueling operations. If I were his supervisor, I'd keel haul him for this blatant safety violation. I seriously question his loyalty to our country for endagering his very well-being in such a cavalier manner. Signed, SSgt Sixpack."

225 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:44:44pm
#144 whiterasta
#114, Mandy Manners:..

..."How about writing your elected officials and military folks to register a protest?.."

Thanks, but certainly not.

It would be completely out of line for any non citizen of the USA to comment on any aspect of the way you Yanks run your domestic politics.

I know what I think in my heart, but as a non citizen I will keep my mouth shut.

To do anything else would be rude, insulting to America and out of line.

Oh, bullshit! A photograph of one of your soldiers is being used in a cynical lie to sway our domestic politics. So, for you to protest would already be cancelled out!

Stop being so fuckin' nice already!

BTW, I was a goof Neuf for a while when my daddy was stationed in Newfoundland--he flew planes near the U.S.S.R.. My memories are of a land of gray skies and lotsa' trees. Is it still beautiful?

226 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:45:02pm
#217 dak 10/7/2006 08:38PM PDT
#211

Allright, allright. Hard to tell after this thread.

You know how it is: I can call my wife a bimbo but I get upset if anybody else does!

Heh. It just occurred to me - if this were the meat world, we'd have had a fist fight, and right about now, you'd be buying me a beer. :)

227 HolmWrecker  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:45:04pm

Oh man, that is just lame, lame ,lame.
Unbelievable...dam...I'm truely shocked.
When I saw that pic and read the story, expletives flew like wildfire here. My PC blushed.
If they do obtain power again, God Help Us All.
My Demonut friends are gonna hear about this from me. They thought I was obnoxious before...

228 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:45:46pm

I can't wait for the RCRs to get a load of this. Somebody photoshopped the badge off the beret?

You have no idea what this badge means to these people. They would rather die (and some do) than dishonor their regiment. Proper soldiers.

Mr photoshop better start digging a hole.

229 rightwinger3  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:46:50pm

# 216 Stu,

You know what's really funny is that it's not hard to fake stuff now we have the internet. It's just that people left wing dipsh*ts are ignorant.

230 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:49:16pm

We all know what this is about but, can the media know it? Would they even care?

231 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:49:40pm

Not too far OT- I think Rove is still at the top of his game, plus he excels when things are tough. The White House knew the Dems would have dirty tricks as the election neared. What does Rove have up his sleeve? He got oil prices down, right on schedule, the Norks are cooperatingt with their nuke threats, and the weather control machine prevented another Katrina. What's next?

232 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:50:33pm

I think somebody more technically savvy should sent the link to the Dems (plus explanation) here.

Last week Harper was being accused of using dirty tactics, "like the republicans" in Canada.

233 imploder  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:50:57pm

#218

I had the pleasure and privledge to serve with several people who were involved in the rescue attempt. I heard many great stories right from the guys who were there, and they are very inspiring.

By the way, that book in an awesome read, and well worth the seven bucks.

I can recommend another super-awesome story, a book called "Five Years to Freedom" by Col Nick Rowe I believe. A super tear jerker and excellent read.

234 sandspur  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:51:35pm

Buddy Poppy

Among all the flowers that evoke the memories and emotions of war is the red poppy, which became associated with war after the publication of a poem written by Col. John McCrae of Canada. The poem, "In Flander's Field," describes blowing red fields among the battleground of the fallen.

For more than 75 years, the VFW's Buddy Poppy program has raised millions of dollars in support of veterans' welfare and the well being of their dependents.

The VFW conducted its first poppy distribution before Memorial Day in 1922, becoming the first veterans' organization to organize a nationwide distribution. The poppy soon was adopted as the official memorial flower of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States.

It was during the 1923 encampment that the VFW decided that VFW Buddy Poppies be assembled by disabled and needy veterans who would be paid for their work to provide them with some form of financial assistance. The plan was formally adopted during the VFW's 1923 encampment. The next year, disabled veterans at the Buddy Poppy factory in Pittsburgh assembled VFW Buddy Poppies. The designation "Buddy Poppy" was adopted at that time.

In February 1924, the VFW registered the name "Buddy Poppy" with the U.S. Patent Office. A certificate was issued on May 20, 1924, granting the VFW all trademark rights in the name of Buddy under the classification of artificial flowers. The VFW has made that trademark a guarantee that all poppies bearing that name and the VFW label are genuine products of the work of disabled and needy veterans. No other organization, firm or individual can legally use the name "Buddy" Poppy.

Today, VFW Buddy Poppies are still assembled by disabled and needy veterans in VA Hospitals.

The minimal assessment (cost of Buddy Poppies) to VFW units provides compensation to the veterans who assemble the poppies, provides financial assistance in maintaining state and national veterans' rehabilitation and service programs and partially supports the VFW National Home for orphans and widows of our nation's veterans.

In Flander's Field
by John McCrae
In Flanders Fields the poppies blow,
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead.
Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved and now we lie,
In Flanders Fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw,
The torch, be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us, who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow,
In Flanders Fields.

235 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:51:36pm

#208 Cattt

This better be good. I'm about to shut down Guns and Roses playing Paradise City live so that I can see your link.

236 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:52:12pm

mamawinger 223- have you been misbehavin'?

237 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:54:48pm

#236 Jim in Virginia

Misbehaving? ME?

:)

238 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:55:08pm

You can even sent your comments to the Prime Minister of Canada " target="_blank">here

239 new_tommy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:56:51pm

According to this website, the soldier in question had two tours with the United Nations. No wonder the Dems love him:

[Link: www.florida-cracker.org...]

If I were a Canadian vet, I'd be demanding a frickin' apology for wiping out the guy's insignia and attempting to misrepresent him.

240 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:56:54pm

Dodgers are down to their last out. Man I hate the Mets.

241 mama winger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:57:34pm

Well, at least the Yankees lost. On that note - good night to all!

242 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:57:35pm
228 dak 10/7/2006 08:45PM PDT
I can't wait for the RCRs to get a load of this. Somebody photoshopped the badge off the beret?

You have no idea what this badge means to these people. They would rather die (and some do) than dishonor their regiment. Proper soldiers.

Mr photoshop better start digging a hole.



The badgeless beret was the tipoff, for me, that it had to be shopped. My guess is the Dem honchos' propaganda assistants may not have been in the military (understating the obvious with the intent to be sarcastically humorous).

The fact that they picked the wrong country for the soldier pic aside, I find it appalling that the Dems attempt to appeal to veterans by dissing the uniform.

243 Bob's Kid  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:57:44pm
Did anyone link the happy version?

Which HAS the insignia.

244 x-ray  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 6:59:15pm

210
I would guess that those that volunteer for any western armed forces are the same kind of men and women. They tend to be protectors. The types who fight with courage, honor, dignity, courtesy, and nobleness. Who protect those that can't protect themselves. Those that feel that they need to sacrifice because they have the strength the masses need but don't have themselves. As the Marines put it "We are looking for a few good men".
The guard dogs to protect the sheep I've heard it called.

245 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:00:01pm

#208 Cattt

I'm laughing myself silly! How many times was "Oh, shit!" uttered?

"You can kiss the baby."

246 W-lover  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:02:26pm

I hope this Canadian soldier sues the hell outta the DNC!

247 sandspur  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:04:25pm

This is the party that wants it's selected representative to be the Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces. Get real.

248 rtheyserius  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:05:06pm

Wow, I've gotta recalibrate my Photoshop eye.

Sheesh! Have these people no ethics?

Oh, what the hell, right? If it's anti-Bush, little details like facts or doctored photos don't matter.

249 friarstale  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:05:07pm

I found something for the Dems to remind them what America is all about

250 dak  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:05:21pm

My "guess" is that this will backfire on the Dems once any Vet looks at the picture. Yeah, right, they care so much they can't even recognize the uniform of their own country.

It's a good thing none of them owns a rifle.

251 Bob's Kid  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:06:30pm
"I saw the picture of Airman Bagodoughnuts working on the F-15 and would like to point out some obvious errors. He was wearing the incorrect gloves for refueling operations. If I were his supervisor, I'd keel haul him for this blatant safety violation. I seriously question his loyalty to our country for endagering his very well-being in such a cavalier manner. Signed, SSgt Sixpack."

Laughing OUT LOUD.

Airman Bagodoughnuts, indeed.

252 descolada9  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:06:52pm

Ten bucks says this gets no major media play outside of Fox News.

What? No one will take me up on that bet?

253 imploder  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:07:44pm

#244 X-Ray

I would guess that those that volunteer for any western armed forces are the same kind of men and women.

I'm not sure if it is our common cultural links that bind us, but when we serve with Canadians (which I have a couple of times), Brits (those guys, too), Kiwis, Aussies, we all get along very well. It could be as well the fact we have a common language and generally common values.

I have also served with Uruguayans, Colombians, Argentinians, Koreans, Ecuadorans, even Saudis, and the tensions that we read about in the media are not usually present at a forward location.

Heck, one of my best buddies worked with a unit of French commandos, and he made some life long friends with those guys. I'd tell you about their bar games, but for brevity's sake I'll just report that they are weird.

I know people think the whole world hates the U.S., but I'll tell you this, they respect our military. One reason they do? We respect them right back, cultural differences and all.

254 W-lover  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:10:45pm
Ten bucks says this gets no major media play outside of Fox News.

What? No one will take me up on that bet?

What makes you think Fox will cover it?

255 Bob's Kid  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:13:44pm
What makes you think Fox will cover it?

Because Michelle Malkin is their Filipina Firecracker?

256 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:15:48pm

#234 sandspur

If I may, another poem about WWI.

I know that I shall meet my fate
Somewhere among the clouds above;
Those that I fight I do not hate,
Those that I guard I do not love;

My county is Kiltartan Cross,
My countrymen Kiltartan's poor,
No likely end could bring them loss
Or leave them happier than before.

Nor law, nor duty bade me fight,
Nor public men, nor cheering crowds,
A lonely impulse of delight
Drove to this tumult in the clouds;

I balanced all, brought all to mind,
The years to come seemed waste of breath,
A waste of breath the years behind
In balance with this life, this death.

I'm convinced that this poem was in the mind of David Gilmour when he wrote "Learning to Fly."

I found another connection between rockandroll and turn-of-the-century poets while I was just a pup in college. I cranked out some awesome shit in both a sociology class and a history class.

Check out Shelley's Ozymandias and Jefferson Starship's Winds of Change.

Starship:

257 Nancy  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:15:51pm

250 dak

I agree it will backfire. Since the ad specifically is to give the message they care so much more any reasonable person would question the sincerity of someone who didn't care enough to use a USA photograph.

I wonder if this is an ad that is scheduled to go into print and TV? Don't they sometimes show their current ads on the website?

258 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:18:45pm

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said:—Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.


Kinda' sounds like some skanky motherfucker our forces found in a spider-hole.

259 gymnast  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:19:27pm

Is there no ethical level below which the democratic party fears to go? Apparently not. Can my Man, The Reverend Al Sharpton, The moderate, Liberal,progressive, centrist icon of the Democrat party save it from itself? hope fades. Such is the that empires fall. Franklin Delano Who? Oh, that icon of the Jackass Party. A nobody next to likes of Nancy Pelocie and Harry Reed.

260 Pro-Bush Canuck  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:19:41pm

This is an insult to Canadian soldiers just as much as it is to their American brothers and sisters.

The Democrats have no right to disrespect our armed forces who are fighting and dying in Afghanistian right now. To photoshop away part of the Canadian insignia and uniform is a disgrace.

Leftists are worse than Muslims.

Worse. Than. Muslims.

261 x-ray  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:20:17pm

#253 imploder
The difference in bar games is true even between the states in the US. Midwest, Southern, Northeast or Texas. Real warriors come form all those places though. The difference is really in the armies of the volunteers to western countries as compared to UN forces from Africa, the ME or dictatorial/communist forces. Some protect and some abuse and we all know who does which.

262 imploder  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:20:48pm

P.S.

I need to go on record and say that it is mighty jacked-upt that the Democratic party actually inserted a photograph, an altered photograph at that, of a Canadian trooper on their website will they reference their support of our military.

The utter irony is that the Democrats care so little about our military that they can't even identify what a United States military member looks like in uniform.

The highlights a couple of things to me:

1: Democrats creating marketing and promotion for their party have very little experience with our military, and if just one of them had served they would have caught this blatant error.

2: It may very well be that the Democrats that made this promotion think that the only photographs of military people in the world are either North Korean or US, with no one in between. They may have honestly thought this western looking uniform was U.S., an asssumption so breathtakingly reckless that they are now caught with flies down, junk exposed.

3: Any claim to support our military or uphold the troops and their honor and values is trumped by this paper tiger of a claim due to their ineptitude. As the old military axiom goes, "1000 attaboys is canceled out by one oh, shit!"

And that's all I've got to say about that.

263 Aslan's Girl  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:20:49pm

You just can't make this stuff up.

The Dems really give me the willies.

264 Mr. pulpo  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:24:14pm

Why I found someone other than a Canadian that would suit DNC just right.
I think this what they had in mind.
www.thewashingtonnote.com...] target="_blank">

265 Mr. Pulpo  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:26:30pm

Yikes! Heres the link.

[Link: www.thewashingtonnote.com...]

266 Odinist  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:26:38pm

#261 Imploder

Hell, most of the older US Dem's did their 1960's/1970's 'military service/draft dodging' in Canada...

Is it any surprise that is the only military they can use?

267 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:27:27pm

Democrat Party Symbol - I think this picture says it all.

268 x-ray  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:28:03pm

The real dishonesty is in the words that accompany the photo. They will make up anything that fits their agenda. The lie that travels around the world before the truth gets its boots on.

269 gymnast  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:28:42pm

#256, Mandy Manners. Check out Fussell, Paul, "The Great War and Modern Memory" for a further nihilistic treatment of the sacrifice of the best of what nations could offer to the alter of Mars. A war that resulted in an armistice that, thanks to French perfidy, resulted in an expanded concept of the effects that nihilism could extend.

270 Bobblehead  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:29:46pm

#267 Cattt

LOL Perfect!

271 imploder  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:29:47pm

Hey, BTW, I'm live blogging from Brooks City Base (formerly Brooks AFB) in lovely San Antonio, TX.

My wife is here for a seven-week TDY, so I thought the daughter and I would come down and see her.

Billeting actually has a wireless network, which I am using.

Signal strength: low.

272 M. Bensson-Levi  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:30:44pm

#262 imploder

I find your posts interesting...are you familiar with what an "S" sufix is? Do you have one?

I know that times and nomenclature have changed, but do you know what I'm talking about?

Just curious.

273 imploder  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:35:39pm

272

I find your posts interesting...are you familiar with what an "S" sufix is? Do you have one?

I only have a "Q" and a "T", of course, I'm retired USAF. Maybe that's why they didn't offer me the "S".

Q=aircrew evaluator

T=aircrew instructor

I flew on recon platforms and I also flew on special operations platforms, plying my wares.

274 mattm  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:38:46pm

Not really that suprising. I woder if they will correct it soon?

275 x-ray  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:42:03pm
As the old military axiom goes, "1000 attaboys is canceled out by one oh, shit!"


Seems to be the MSM favorite I think.
For Humor I like this one.
I think it’s maybe Navy? "measure with a micrometer, mark with a piece of chalk and cut with an ax:)

276 Frank_Mtl  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:44:20pm

Finally the original by MeanMrMustard! (Thank you MeanMrMustard). I had a hard time finding a difference comparing the first 2 pics in the thread. It is now terribly, obviously, obvious. For shame!
Yet another fauxto by losers who should know by now they are losing.

277 sandspur  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:44:44pm

256 Mandy Manners

Yeats.

Sometimes it is surprising how literate some rock and rollers are.

278 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:55:13pm

Republican Party Symbol

And an explanation of why this symbol is superior. :)

Lord Ganesh, the wise - the Hindu remover of obstacles.

Compare to the Dem symbol. Can anything be more obvious?

279 armymarinemom  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:56:51pm

Sick,sick,sick.
I wonder how the Candian feels about posing by proxy without his permission.

280 M. Bensson-Levi  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 7:58:39pm

#273 imploder

Somhow got the impression that you were Army. "S", of course doesn't apply to AF.

You're quite right about Western Military types. I've seen some ROK's, never really close enough to really know them, but they seemed very authoritarian, and scarry as hell. Saw a Rok NCO punch one of his guys full in the mouth(while the poor shmuck was standing at attention being screamed at) and watched as the poor shmuck scrambled to attention again. Crazy fuckers, but good soldiers, I guess. Well deserved reputation for tough.

I think that it's the relative lack of classism that makes Western troops respect eachother. Merit, rather than rank by influence. We're professionals, not hacks. Mutual respect is always in order...as opposed to other regime types.

Gotta run, ...Later.

281 6patrick6  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:00:53pm

#273 imploder ---

You and I have similar backgrounds. I was an aircrew instructor, and continue that today as a contractor.

Haven't heard "Airman Bagodonuts" in quite a while, at least not from the active duty side. The retirees, of course, that's another story!

Our guy had a first name - "Joe"!

282 x-ray  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:05:01pm

Story.

MINNEAPOLIS -- It should have been a short, uneventful cab ride from Twin Cities International airport to Fort Snelling, right next door.

The passenger: a 22-year-old Army reservist from Michigan, who’d only taken a taxi a couple times his whole life – so he began chatting up the driver.

“I asked where he was from and he said he was from Somalia,” the soldier said.

The cabbie was curious too, wanting to know if the soldier was shipping off to Iraq. That’s when the cabbie dropped a bombshell.

According to the soldier, the cabbie said, “You go to other countries and you kill people’s children, and you’re okay with that?”

To add insult to injury, the cabbie had apparently taken a longer route than necessary, running up the meter to $14, for a ride that should only cost $11.

Unfortunately, the soldier didn’t get the taxi number or cab company name.

283 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:05:58pm

#269 gymnast

Will try to do. Thank you for your post!

284 6patrick6  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:06:02pm

The most abusive militaries I've seen are the Turks and the Saudis. They beat their draftees, hang their troublemakers up by their thumbs or hands for hours or days at a time (sometimes even upside-down), and truly torture people in the real sense; not the "panty-on-the-head" so-called "abuse" of Abu Ghraib.

The RoKs are just insane.

285 MSMediacritic  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:13:00pm

Don't be too hard on the democrats. They probably can't tell the difference. They also probably can't tell the difference between a submarine and an aircraft carrier (they both go in the water, right? So what's the difference?)

286 infidel4life  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:15:44pm

The Dems don't have any respect for US soldiers, after all they are murdering babies in Iraq, why should they use pics of them?

287 Intestinal Fortitude  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:23:36pm

Since when did the US start wearing Olive Drab again? And who authorized those red things on the collars? Is this Kerry's new Army?

288 fierceseaman  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:24:26pm

typical

289 x-ray  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:27:24pm

286
Photo of baby killer.

290 Intestinal Fortitude  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:28:11pm

#284 6P6

The RoKs are just insane

Wouldn't you be a little pissed working around the KATUSA?

291 Catttt  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:32:45pm

OK. I found the photo of the group of people.

Here they are, in another stock photo from Digital Vision, pledging allegiance.

I know I was obsessing, but I was curious.

Aren't there any real Democrats?

292 infidel4life  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:36:06pm
#289 x-ray 10/7/2006 10:27PM PDT
286
Photo of baby killer.

In a few years the lefties will be wearing t-shirts with his mug on them, as they do with Che now.

293 x-ray  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:44:36pm

#292 infidel4life
Now that's a double edgeged sword isn't it? I can hope things go poorly for them (i.e. no 9/11 like attacks and the Islamists are ineffectual as Che) or that a Tshirt with Al Z will bring upon the wearer what a che shirt currently should.

294 infidel4life  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 8:54:31pm

#293 x-ray

Let's pray that the Islamists are as ineffectual in the future as Che was in his time, but things aren't looking that way as of now.

295 mardukhai  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 9:10:42pm

#287 Intestinal Fortitude

They aren't "red things" -- they're poppies, a symbol of the losses suffered in "Flanders' Fields".

296 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 9:21:46pm

295 mardukhai

Yes

297 pbird  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 9:26:46pm

295, Yes. It was bothering me too.

298 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 9:39:14pm

Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but the red poppy on his jacket is a traditional British/Commonwealth remembrance of the war dead from the '14-'18 war: WWI.

The leftoids wouldn't know an American soldier if he bit them on the ass.

299 Shredstar  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 9:45:46pm

This hurricane of bullshit is amusing. We've got a group of people posting legit photos of Canada's fine military. Another group goes in and posts the photos with the badges removed. The DNC wants a generic pissed-off soldier photo, without caring where the photo comes from or who he is.

The bottom line is the DNC is showing a Canadian soldier photo with a story implying he is pissed off about his treatment by the United States Republicans.

300 Intestinal Fortitude  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 9:55:06pm

295 mardukhai

Thanks for pointing it out like everybody else has.

Next time I try to be sarc on a US uniform I'll leave a /

301 KYAG  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 9:55:22pm

Haven't read all the comments but I would like make an observation. The photo is cropped to conceal the soldiers medals... if the dumbocrats wanted impact then the more bemedalled the better I would have thought. Now why would they not want to show a highly decorated individual ... maybe .. just maybe ... they realise that any serviceman (I am ex-Aust Army - 28 years) would recognise in a flash that those medals are not American.

My 0.03c (Aussie)

302 Outrider  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 10:09:18pm

Anyone that has been in the Army more than a few days could pick out sooo many flaws in this photo it isn't even funny. For example start with the lapels. If he was an officer, there would be a US on his right side and the insignia branch on his left side lapel (crossed rifles for Infantry for example), if he was an enlisted there would be the same things except they would be in little brass disks and a little smaller. As some others have noted, his beret would have a flash (patch) and regimental crest on the left front side of the black beret. There would be metal emblems (crests) on his shoulder tabs. If a combat leader, there would be green cloth tabs under the emblems. (I don't know if this is still done?) He would not be wearing a red poppy on his dress uniform. Speaking of that-American soldiers do not wear black uniforms jackets with white shirts. We won't even discuss the obvious Canadian (or British) soldiers standing to his rear.
On the plus side, he looks like he has a fine high and tight haircut. And he looks like a great soldier. Don't lowrate the Canadian soldiers too much. The Canadian Infantry I've trained with in the past were great soldiers and great Airborne!

303 jason97m  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 10:29:19pm

Everyone knows that the US military does not wear a poppy. That is a strict tradition of the British and Canadian armies relating back to Flanders Fields of WWI.

304 Jolly Roger  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 10:39:21pm

It's incredibly obvious to anyone familiar with the US military, that while he's obviously a soldier, he is most definitely NOT wearing a US uniform. The fauxtoshopping does absolutely nothing to hide that.

/late to the party.

305 exredtory  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 11:16:59pm

More on the RCR badge here: [Link: regimentalrogue.tripod.com...]

The "VRI" means Victoria Regina Imperatrix - Victoria, Queen and Empress

Why the photog or the stock shot folks would have seen fit to 'shop out the badge is a puzzle - it they felt they had to to that, then why not 'shop out all the medals and other insignia if they wanted to present a 'generic' soldier (even if his name is Abdul).

But really, you think those Dem-wits could have found a stock shot of a U.S. soldier - unless they took a shine to "Abdul"

306 exredtory  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 11:19:00pm

But of course, they just had to crop the medals for the brochure shot.

307 exredtory  Sat, Oct 7, 2006 11:25:55pm

And lest we forget, the RCR has recently paid the price of fighting terrorism in Afghanistan:

[Link: cnews.canoe.ca...]

308 restitutor orbis  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 12:01:13am

This story will fizzle for the simple fact that the Repubs are either too emasculated or too stupid to exploit this. In its own way, this is almost as disgraceful as Chester-the-MolesterGate

309 rnoy  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 12:05:09am

Hehe

310 TheMole  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 12:19:37am

Gotta start reading this site in the daytime. This story is a howler. Of course this soldier is in the Canadian Forces and he's obviously attending a Remembrance Day ceremony on November 11, most likely in downtown Toronto. That's why everyone in the picture is wearing a poppy. He's listening to a speech about Canadian soldiers who have died serving their country (that's what the "remembrance" is about) and so of course he's looking rather grave. The later picture where he's smiling is obviously after the ceremony (always held at 11:00 a.m., the time of the signing of the armistice that ended WW I) as the soldiers and crowd are dispersing. Note the civilian in the background wearing a toque -- it's cold in most Canadian cities in November.

Why did the Democrats choose this picture? My read on it is (1) they liked the unhappy look (2) they really don't know what American service uniforms look like (3) they cropped out the medals (on the chest, that is - the beret insignia probably was already removed)so that viewers wouldn't get the idea that htis soldier had received any recognition for anything, and last but not least (4) the guy isn't white so that plays to the Democrats' cherished theme of mistreated 'minorities'.

311 alltogethernow  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 1:29:32am

I eagerly await the next "update". :-/

312 maggieh01  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 2:39:39am

Florida Cracker's observation says it all.

They obviously don't know what an American soldier's uniform looks like.

Note to Democrats: A little research goes a long way.

313 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 2:48:26am

Fukking ownage.

314 quiet man  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 3:15:51am

First Martin, then this..it's a Canadian qaugmire!

Noo, actually it is balance..this pic was given to the southern appeasers by the northern on purpose.
You guys forgot that many Canadian liberals say that their troops are only there in Afganistan to support Bushs take over of the planet by releasing US troops to invade the pastures and paddocks of happy people everywhere.

315 quiet man  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 3:19:41am

This is crazy tho...They should have used Ernie from full metal jacket..now that would have caught some attention.

316 Nancy  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 3:40:14am

Let's not be too hasty that it was just incompetence.

Why would the photographer remove the cap emblem since the identical photo exists with it? Unless asked to do so?

And the fact that the medals were cropped off, suggests there was a reason they wanted it to be generic.

317 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 4:02:00am

#291, Cattt

OK. I found the photo of the group of people.

Here they are, in another stock photo from Digital Vision, pledging allegiance.

I know I was obsessing, but I was curious.

Aren't there any real Democrats?

They obviously didn't want to use pictures of actual Democrat Party activists (you know, like zombie takes).

Scroticus probably doesn't play well in Peoria.

--

This whole topic's been both hilarious and pathetic.
Shame I missed this thread when it was active...

318 galloping granny  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 4:11:01am
#298 Lady of Shalott

Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but the red poppy on his jacket is a traditional British/Commonwealth remembrance of the war dead from the '14-'18 war: WWI.

What the UK countries call Remebrance Day is what we call Veteran's Day - November 11. Same thing, different name. In honor of WWI losses.

There was a time here in the US that members of the American Legion & Veterans of Foreign Wars sold those red poppies (they are made by disabled vets) on Veteran's Day. The proceeds went to provide services to disabled veterans. If you're old enough to remember when every little US town around had a Veteran's Day parade, you might recall all the former servicemen (and current if they were around) marching down Main Street in their military uniforms - wearing the poppy.

319 formercorpsman  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 4:11:28am

Ok, I know I'm late to this.

Many know I am veteran, obviously.

Many, many of my relatives have worn the uniform, and have sacrificed much more than I had during my time.

What is most disturbing with this, is that you have to conclude this is either:

Incompetence: The tech types who are responsible for this making it's way to no less than the DNC's website for consumption. If this is the case, you mean to tell me, that Tom McMahon would not have better control over this, furthermore, all the strategists would not have corrected this once it hit the blogoshere?

Deliberate: It was a known fact, and just like they are claiming about the leadership knowing about Foley, and did nothing to prevent it? They intended to do this, kept it as an inside issue, never thinking this would be picked apart, or even noticed as an incorrect photo on the website concerning the story.

The fact you can still go to the website, and see this, despite now being in the realm of those in the know, just baffles me.

While some may see this, as really a non-issue, or those who take offense as being over-sensitive, mind you, the money the DNC takes in from average Americans who feel compelled to donate as the result this type of propaganda are no doubt going to be financing the presidential run of a Senator who to my knowledge, has yet to attend any military funerals from her state.

I could be wrong, but I searched, and still can't find any reference to attendence. Many funerals from New York, but no mention of the Senator.

320 plutosdad  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 4:38:15am

While I do believe that there is more we can do to help veterans after they come back, fund the VA more, provide better resources for troops, and wish the Republicans did devote more dollars, etc.

At least we don't hate and despise our troops like the Democrats do.

321 BingoBunny  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 5:01:32am

310

My first thought was same as yours he is dark skinned and demorats wanted to make the army minority..oppressed.. and poor to fit their mold of America..but not the truth of our forces.

322 bubbaman  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 5:05:10am

bwaaa! This gets funnier all of the time. Just to get back to reality, I had to replay a version of Dean's "I have a scream" speech.

323 wanumba  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 5:29:03am

#322 Bubbaman
Me, too! Ha-HA-ha-hahahahaha
LOL
I saw Michelle's blog last night and laughed hard then, and this morning it's as funny as it was last night.
The Dems strategy so far to get Nancy Pelosi as Speaker:
Getting Dem workers to rip down GOP signs - one tape and facing criminal charges
ACORN get out the vote staff not paid and picketing [Link: www.gatewaypundit.com...]
now DNC is showing Canadians as US military, just to remind us of how many DEMs fled to Canada during Vietnam ...
The parody possibilities are so so rich - good week ahead.

324 soccermom  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 5:35:20am

Same photographer took both photos, the "original" which is on his business web site and the one he submitted to istockphoto.com where he removed the badge. (Both linked in the lgf post)

Also, isn't the poppy badge associated with Britian and therefore Canada?

325 wanumba  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 5:41:27am

... Oh, and the DNC George Allen having a Confederate Flag in college is going to hurt him in Virginia ...

326 wanumba  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 5:51:39am

Photoshop fingers on all those fists being waved at the "soldiers" and "their families" and it'll be an accurate portrayal of the Liberal Left's attitude towards "soldiers" and "their families."

327 prospero  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 6:41:28am

291 -- Cattt

So all those people enthusiastically waving their fists are -- just doing what they're being paid to do. That strikes me as just about right for a DNC website.

But as others have pointed out, don't let the photos divert away from the BS text. The same people bemoaning our "substandard equipment" are the same ones bemoaning the cost of the war and threatening to cut its funding if they get control of Congress.

I read somewhere that Harry Truman once said Nixon was the only man he knew who talked out of both sides of his mouth and lied on both sides. If, somewhere, Harry is aware of the modern Democratic party, he's probably thankful he's dead.

328 Perplexed  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 6:45:44am

Hmmm, go to the democrat's web site and send off an email to newspapers complaining about this. Might not get published, but what better to complain about this from a democrat's own site.

329 wanumba  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 7:40:24am

The photographer had to wipe out the emblem on the cap to sell the picture, but the DNC media gremlin cropped the pix to dump the ribbons, 1)for space probably and 2) it smacked of being proud of his achievements. They just wanted a Mr. Glum in a generic uniform. That's it. Lazy expediency. Since they are beings who have evolved to higher levels of consciousness, it's annoying to have mere mortals point this out.

330 wanumba  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 7:47:54am

Oh, #310 TheMole really hit a home run with his

4) the guy isn't white so that plays to the Democrats' cherished theme of mistreated 'minorities'

. That's the other reason that particular soldier was lifted out of the tons of available pix out there. ANother reasopn for ditching the ribbons, too. Being rewarded for real achievement and so forth.
This week, we will all find out who that soldier is and what he has to say about this "kerfuffle". Should be priceless. Maybe even mostly printable.
Saw that Charles properly and diligently,as a responsible citizen, bought the photo. Did the DNC buy it or will they claim it was given to them as a "campaign contribution" ?

331 Wisenheimer  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 10:15:02am

I have to vote for sheer ignorance. These dumbasses simply don't know what an American soldier looks like. And they want control of our military.

Over our dead bodies.

332 Catttt  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 10:52:20am

From the "it's an ill wind that blows no one any good" department - if I ever need a stock photo, I will go to istockphoto (the one photographer Arpad Benedek mentions) first. Their prices are a heck of a lot cheaper than other stock photo sites. Not that I ever buy stock photos. :)

333 Roger  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 12:38:19pm

Excellent work, Charles and lizards!

334 Perplexed  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 1:11:26pm

The fist shakers look a whole lot like the cast of Dawn of the Dead.

335 terri g  Sun, Oct 8, 2006 1:46:39pm

# 291 Catt-I think it's great you found the picture. I'll be honest, I wouldn't have even of known how to begin looking for this. I think it's great work to you all. I know in an earlier post someone mentioned the turning in of uniforms when you leave the military. I still have mine though. I did give back my ROTC uniforms when I graduated but I gave my Mess Blues to my ROTC to put up for sale to someone who could fit into them and to keep the proceeds for themselves.
I did go onto the DNC website yesterday and sent them a note saying I found them disgusting. I also sent a note to that campaign of Tammy Duckworth asking which soliders she was speaking to that told her they hate Iraq besides herself. I realise she's bitter that she lost her legs-I only lost a kidney during Gulf War 1 but I have never heard from them. That's my brother's district and she still isn't living in the district she's running in last time he checked a few weeks ago. How this can happen is beyond me. Ir looks like she's going to win though but I guess this is usual Dem. dirty tricks. This is the seat Henry Hyde is vacating. So we have all the those who hate the military, hate Bush who are running as Dems in this election. They think they speak for all vets but they don't speak for my husband who is still over there and they don't seem to speak for any of our friends who have been there and back a few times too. The Dems have met soldiers they like, they're the ones who are the 5-9% who are extremely liberal and really don't want to be there anyway and brag that they just went to get their college paid for by the US government.


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