Judges today are just too stupid.

This sentence is a joke. And an insult.

CRLMA ("civil rights lawyer" my ass)

Why are people so worried about commoners being labled as terrorists? Nothing happens to them, anyway.

"If you send her to prison, she’s going to die. It’s as simple as that.”

Is that a promise!

The Mahdi will rescue her....

..Iran: We will win because of close ties with God

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that he is convinced Iran will be victorious over the western countries on the issue of their nuclear program. According to him this will be possible because he "has close ties with God."

He says that there is no need to be afraid of the west. (AFP

) [Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I'd say she is providing aid and comfort to the enemy, so capital punishment is not unexpected result for her crime.

Incredible. And some people wonder why morale is sagging when it comes to the "War On Terror"...

Stewart’s defense lawyer, Elizabeth Fink told the judge just before the sentence was pronounced: "If you send her to prison, she’s going to die. It’s as simple as that."

Well that would be a real tragedy wouldn't it?

Less thaqn 1/12th what she could have gotten. That is an insult to all victims of terror worldwide. There is a difference between aggressively advocating for your client and helping his cell kill innocent civilians.

Stewart’s defense lawyer, Elizabeth Fink told the judge just before the sentence was pronounced: "If you send her to prison, she’s going to die. It’s as simple as that.”

Well, I for one am glad that she is no longer immortal.

Lynne's a lawyer. She knew exactly what she was doing. She wasn't some innocent who was duped by the sheik. So why the wrist-slap? She deserves to be treated like the traitor she is.

This should encourage her useful idiotarian fans. CNN reports her unrepentant words;

"The government's characterization of me and what occurred is inaccurate and untrue," she wrote. "It takes unfair advantage of the climate of urgency and hysteria that followed 9/11 and that was re-lived during the trial. I did not intentionally enter into any plot or conspiracy to aid a terrorist organization."

Go ahead... you were saying something about "best intentions"?

Oh, you were finished? Then allow me to retort: What does Marcellus Wallace look like?

OT...

They MSM hypocricy knows no bounds... Not a peep about Reid's shady land deal, but the press is excited about this

Just wait until she gets out and is then awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

Won't fight the spread of Islamic radicalization as a war and refuse to fight it adequately in the legal arena. 2 strikes already and the 3rd won't be pretty.

A woman co vile even the Koskidz won't defend her (although I suspect they want to)....

Breaking: Lynne Stewart Gets 28 Months For Aiding Terrorists

"If you send her to prison, she’s going to die. It’s as simple as that.”

Do it soon and save us the money of supporting your traitorous a**.

#11 Terp Mole

What?

Lynne Stewart is a traitor - may she be remembered as such.

Both she, and this "sentence" disgust me.

Any comments from CAIR regarding this "martyr", er useful idiot?

Hard to bash the Euros when our judges hand out sentences like this.

One of her co-conspirators got 28 years. For the same charges no less. She gets a fraction of that for what reason exactly?

I'd love to read through the rationale (if there is one) as to what part of the sentencing guidelines let the judge come away giving Stewart a 28 month sentence.

If I'm reading the guidelines correctly based on the conviction, my take on the sentencing guideline suggests that the judge imposed the minimum that was less than half of what the minimum ordinarily is.

Useful idiotarian image;

Outside the federal courthouse, about 150 Stewart supporters who could not get inside the capacity-filled courtroom chanted "Free Lynne, Free Lynne."

As she entered the courthouse, Stewart shouted to them "I love you" and "I'm hanging in there."

"It's not just Lynn Stewart who is a victim, it's the Bill of Rights that's the victim," said Al Dorfman, 72, a retired lawyer who was among the Stewart supporters standing outside.

Slideshow here.

Is there precedent for this absurdly light sentence?

#11

What does Marcellus Wallace look like?

A line from the movie "Pulp Fiction".

Don't tell me, let me guess, the judge was a clinton appointee, just another leftwing travesty of justice

Well, folks, I read about this sentence and I start to seethe. (Am I getting as bad as the professional, full-time seethers we read about all of the time?)

I need chocolate!

Send those messages by brain wave right up to Judge Koeltl.

ROFLMAO

If you send her to prison, she’s going to die.

Promises, promises.

Wasn't she specifically warned beforehand that she was forbidden from transferring messages from Abdel-Rahman to his cohorts? I am not sure if this is true or not, so I am seeking verification.

aside- 17 Lazarus- Do they speak English in What?

from a rally this morning ; Yahoo pic

Former civil rights lawyer Lynne Stewart enters Manhattan federal court for her sentencing, Monday, Oct. 16, 2006, in New York.

The sign behind Ms. Stewart reads, "Stop the witch hunt, USA Patriot Act, American Gestapo"

Wasn't this triel held in the same courtroom where Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were convicted, and where Stewart defended Black Panthers, the Weather Underground, and the Sheik?

Feh.

Should have got more time.

Re the "going to die" thing - Lynne Stewart had breast cancer. Apparently, Ms. Fink is saying that breast cancer survivors will get it again automatically if they go to prison; therefore, breast cancer survivors should not be sent to prison. Invalid moonbat premise - invalid moonbat conclusion.

Ms. Fink: inmates have medical care.

More rally pics...
Yahoo Images

lawhawk,

One of her co-conspirators got 28 years. For the same charges no less. She gets a fraction of that for what reason exactly?

I think the fact that Lynne has breast cancer and may not live much longer probably explains the light sentence.

Judge clearly weighed "useful idiotarian" as less culpable than "terrorism facilitator."

Blind Sheik prosecuter Andrew McCarthy anticipated a life sentence;

Lynne Stewart & Me

...What has happened to her here is very far from a tragedy — a tragedy is when someone unwittingly crosses the path of Abdel Rahman's ilk and is ruthlessly murdered for the great offense of being an American, or a Jew, or a Christian, or anything other than an Islamic militant. This is what Lynne Stewart promoted, and for that she must pay dearly. At 65, it may mean she pays with the rest of her life. Many will understandably celebrate that. I will pray she perceives that she has done enormous harm, and that the real civil rights she might have honored are those of the innocent victims of terror.

McCarthy's money shot;

Don't get me wrong. I do despise what Lynne represents. To hear the media's "civil rights lawyer" tag monotonously attached to her name is Orwellian to the point of inducing dysentery ... it's been impossible to read the fawning pro-Stewart coverage in the New York Times for the past two years and not wonder whether either the newspaper or Lynne understands that if the causes they promote ever actually achieved their ends, the very first thing the new regimes would do is shut down useful idiots like the New York Times and Lynne Stewart.

Maybe someone will stick a shiv in her in prison.

Judge Koeltl was a Clinton appointee in 1994.

“If you send her to prison, she’s going to die. It’s as simple as that,” defense lawyer Elizabeth Fink had told the judge before the sentence was pronounced.

And the problem with that would be, what, exactly?

She had best be greatful the judge and prosecutor did not do what was right.

#22 Terp Mole
I see you're already on the images. I tried to zoom in to read the sign behind her on the 1st pic you linked to but the resolution stinks.

Blogosphere reaction roundup.

That judge needs to be held accountable for that light sentence. Our nation is being ruined by these people.

[Link: jewishworldreview.com...]

I have the unique position of having sat in on this case. I can tell you that the case is not as strong as one would think at first blush. The messages she transmitted were basically in code, and it's not clear how much she knew of what she was doing.

That said, I met Lynn Stewart after the trial adjourned for the day and spoke with her for a few minutes. She is one of the ugliest people I have seen in my life. Seriously. Her teeth were rotting out of her mouth, and she emit this ghastly odor. Frankly, I would not want that woman within 10 feet of me, let alone representing me in court as my attorney.

Wow, a Clinton apointed judge protecting a terrorist conspiritor, who'd have thunk it?

We keep hearing from Democrats that they are tough on terror. Really? Where's one shred of evidence to support that?

Someone over at Kos raised a reasonable argument against this lite sentence, and the other koskidz jumped on accusing the poster of being a rightwing troll. They won't even take a stand against a convicted terrorist enabler like stewart and we should hand over congress to them?

Naughty traitor to you country!

Want to be it's because she's a woman?

This is sickening. In a few million years, when the Great Spider digs up traces of our civilization and wonders what caused it to fall into ruin, I doubt that it will think of this.

Rot from within. Maybe we don't deserve to survive.

It must drive moonbats insane that Andrew McCarthy (who prosecuted the Blind Sheik) on the eve of Lynn Stewarts' sentencing has the human decency to proclaim;

I like Lynne Stewart.

... the new McCarthyism!

#28 tankdemon

Wha- Wha- What?

“If you send her to prison, she’s going to die. It’s as simple as that.”

Well, yes. He says that like its a bad thing...

Not so much...

Look at those typos. Traitor to your country and...bet it's because she's a woman. PIMF.

Let no one say that the Clinton Administration and their appointees didn't do the least they could do to punish those that would destroy our country.

#42 Quella,

I have the unique position of having sat in on this case. I can tell you that the case is not as strong as one would think at first blush. The messages she transmitted were basically in code, and it's not clear how much she knew of what she was doing.

Do you mean

1) She didn't know what she was doing because the messages were in code and she didn't understand them?

or

2) She didn't realize she was transmitting messages?

MARTHA Stewart's sentence was a more effective deterrent than this big wet kiss of a punishment.

Lynne Stewart's sentence should serve as a warning regarding those who wish to have the war on terror fought in the court room.

Maybe Hillary will denounce this travesty of justice?

#42 Quella
Wasn't the issue that she knew she was illegally transmitting messages? Whether or not she understood them seems irrelevant.

#42 quella

sometimes people who have had chemo have that smell. it's the "we're killing you to make you better" process of chemotherapy, and it can take years to leach out of one's system.

For the 28 months she should have to sit in the Lincoln Tunnel 24/7 and hope, like we all do stuck in traffic, that one of the blind sheik's adherants doesn't chose to get his virgins that day.

Lynn Stewart *spits*

A night with him would cure her of leftiness.

28 months! In the UK, you wouldn't get that if you killed a child in a hit and run.

I'm not kidding. You lot don't know you're born.

In case it has not been pointed out, yes, Judge John George Koeltl was appointed (in 1994) by President William J. Clinton. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Mandy, Where are your manners?

#42 Quella. That is fascinating information. Even if the information she passed on was in code, she should have known that she wasn't to pass anything from the sheik. Her actions since then show where her sympathies lie. The sheik was blind, but his nose must have been impaired, too. On the other hand, he might have been reminded of his pet camel.

I see Elizabeth has struck again. Remember, she is the attorney who represented the Attica prisoners who rioted. Maybe she said her client would die in prison because she helped people who riot and kill people in prison and therefore knows what they are capable of.

Another leftwing hero who makes a mockery of our judicial system.

Remember, the lefties are on the Islamosfascist's side.

Breast cancer? At the risk of being unkind, I shudder at the thought of her having breasts.

“I am not a violent person,” Sattar said. “I am a human being. I am an America. I am a Muslim who practices and believes strongly in his religion.”

That is the problem: You're a Mu-slime who practices what he preaches, which is genocidal jihad. Please enjoy rotting in prison, @$$hole.

What's really disgusting is how these sanctimonious relics wrap themselves in the mantle of American justice and freedom which they work so diligently to undermine.

*spit*

Judge Koeltl was a Clinton appointee in 1994.

Still want to vote the bums out, taxfreekiller?

Still think there are no differences between Democrats and Republicans, taxfreekiller?

Its all about the money, huh, taxfreekiller?

Do you think the selection of judicial nominees, many of which are awarded lifetime appointments, will not differ be there a Republican or Democratic majority in Congress taxfreekiller?

Wonder what Supreme Court nominees the President will be able to get through a Democratically controlled Senate? Won't matter, right taxfree? There all in it for the money. Just ask Harry Reid.

#62 raven1

Who? Me?

*innocent look*

She carried messages for a convicted terrorist. Who cares if they were in code or not? My understanding is that she was told to stop and kept on doing it. She should be swinging on the gallows.

Killgore Trout #56:

I believe there were two issues. One was her illegal transmittal of messages - which I agree, it is undisputed she was guilty of transmitting. The other issue is whether or not she was actually knowingly committing terror. I am not sure she understood what was in the coded messages she transmitted.

Of course, there is also the issue as to whether she SHOULD have known. I think she should have known. She was representing someone who planned the 1993 bombing, for godsakes! Some skepticism should have been in order. Finally, there is the constitutional issue of whether or not a lawyer can be barred from transmitting legal messages on behalf of a client. At least - that was the issue she raised. However, the bottom line is that a lawyer cannot help a client break the law, first amendment issues or not.

I personally would like to see the dog tick looking bitch strapped to the gourney. But I'll take what I can get. It will probably not survive much longer anyway, nothing that damned ugly can live long....

Quella:

The fact is that the jury did find her guilty of passing those messages, and that's what counts. Her conviction doesn't appear to match up with the sentencing guidelines, though I'm open to correction on which provisions were appropriate. My reading is that as a level 26 crime, she should have done no less than 5+ years. This sentence is half that.

#23 godfrey

If there wasn't, sadly, there is now.

#42 Quella

So was no one was able to decode the messages? And was it taken into consideration that ignorance is no excuse? Not trying to be smart aleck, just would like to know.

Otherwise, it is a ridiculous sentence, medical condition and/or age not withstanding. I recently read of a case of an 83-year old woman being sent to prison for life for murder, and this woman's actions were at the very least traitorous, and deserving of a long sentence. Anyway, she'd get free and adequate medical care in prison.

The GOP should be using this as a rallying cry to get people to vote for Republican candidates for Congress. This is what life under Democratic rule will consistently look like if they ever get into office.

#33 Dirk Diggler

I think the fact that Lynne has breast cancer and may not live much longer probably explains the light sentence.

Where's the medical evidence here?

I am a Muslim who practices and believes strongly in his religion

We can tell. That's why we are sending you to a very large mosque otherwise known as The State Penitentary.

You'll fit right in.

I'm seething. Lynne Stewart, a completely harmless grandmother, gets sentenced to the American Gulag just for defending the defenseless! It's time to burn down the cars and stock exchanges and synagogues of the Amerikkan Nazi government. /

[just waiting for this seething reaction from the left and others]

lawhawk #74:

I agree, but I just wanted to clarify that I am not sure she knew what she was transmitting. That said, obviously, the point is she knowingly broke the law, when she transmit her client's messages. And I don't buy the "Waa, waa, I have breast cancer" argument.

Sorry, but a crime is a crime, and there are prison hospitals. I see no evidence that she will not be treated for breast cancer in prison. Millions of prisoners get medical treatment in prison every day.

Are we sure they didn't convict Michael Moore?

#11 Greg In Seatle

I wrote a heated letter to CNN

While waiting for news page to load I noticed the end of http:// address Congresional Investigation.
I was curious if the CNN or anybody else was willing to do the heavy lifting of investigating the Harry Reid Land scandal. Eh - No-
Instead I got another foolish democraticly controlled media smear piece on an insignificant daughter of a congressMAN. Due to your absolute bias I always make sure to tell everyone I know - and thats alot of people- That to get unbiased news you have to go elsewhere on the web rather than CNN.
This is why I write my congressMEN about the disbanding of the Government Media Complex. This is the Democtic party version of PRAVDA. Shame on you. No one believes you. You lost credibility when there is nothing on Sandy Berger, Harry Reid, yet an out of the way moonbat story of Weldon's Daughter. You've gotta be kidding. Why don't you just get it over with and come out of your lefty closet.

#1 rin

"Judges today are just too stupid."

Think about it: It's the easiest job in the world. Any Lizardoid could do it - no previous experience or law degree necessary - and do a better job than most of the morally-challenged shysters who end up actually wearing the black muumuu.

The only problem with the job is that it would be boring as hell. The money paid to effort expended ratio is the best in the world though. No doubt about that.

Seriously, a reasonably intelligent ten-year-old could do it.

What do you call a shyster with a 75 IQ?

"Your Honor." ;^)

We are doomed.

Light sentence or not, she's still a federal convict.

My God where are her eyes!

aaaaahhhhhhhh

buzzsawmonkey #75.

"Lynne Stewart collaborated with her client against the system she was sworn to serve--a crime worse for the fact that as an attorney she betrayed her role as "officer of the court." Sadly, it appears that the court chose to look lightly on this blatant act of betrayal."

That's exactly the point. She betrayed her country on behalf of a terrorist.

OT

Hannity blows a chance to educate his audience.

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

#60 bweep

I have noticed that virtually every time I read a story of a crime/trial/sentencing in the UK - my reaction to the sentences (and the REQUESTED sentences) is - WHAT?!

I searched for a few examples but couldn't find any recent sentences in the UK. I found a wealth of recent sentences in the USA - for example:

Man gets five years for stealing maps - CT
Couple gets four years for holding girl in locked room without food - NE
Man sentenced to four years for assaulting a police officer, false imprisonment, and escape - MD
Man sentenced to 18 months for lewdness - NJ

Etc.

Can't find UK sentencings. Hmmmm.

Send those messages by brain wave right up to Judge Koeltl. Get him to understand what’s at stake here. Give him the strength to do the right thing,” Stewart said.

Hypocrites. They wear tinfoil hats to block the CIA mind-control waves, but when its convenient they turn the table and illegally transmit their own mind-controlling brain waves. The nerve of some people!

new_tommy 85,

We are doomed.

Buy a weapon or ten. That'll slow down doom.

Shame on the courts!

Get a few celebs to write a Amicus brief on your behalf and you, too, won't face the consequences of your actions. I'm so f**king sick of celebrities and the influence they have in our society. I though the days when Gore Vidal's opinion meant anything should have ended right about September 12th, 2001.

As a country, and a world, we've forgotten about 9/11. We deserve our destuction.

The 67-year-old Stewart, who was diagnosed with breast cancer last year

Fate will act where the judge will not.

She should have been charged with treason, a la Adam Jihad.

First of all, It is alive !

Secondly. RE # 84, ...

Think about it: It's the easiest job in the world. Any Lizardoid could do it - no previous experience or law degree necessary - and do a better job than most of the morally-challenged shysters who end up actually wearing the black muumuu.

Bullshit.

Quella says:

I agree, but I just wanted to clarify that I am not sure she knew what she was transmitting.

So you'll go to Columbia and bring back that briefcase for me, right?

_{Are all lawyers this stupid?}

Stewart’s defense lawyer, Elizabeth Fink told the judge just before the sentence was pronounced: “If you send her to prison, she’s going to die. It’s as simple as that.”

My guess is that she will die whether or not she is in prison. Every one does, don't you know.

j

So the jihadis should recruit breast cancer victims, with the guarantee they'll get light sentences if caught?

re: Not knowing what was in the message defense.

I know of someone that used to mail a box to the USA from the Phillipines every week for $50 per box. When arrested for mailing drugs through the US Postal System, his defense was he didn't know what was in the boxes.

I believe he served 5 years in federal prison.

Stupidity should never be allowed as a defense strategy.

Scary hag.

Last June, Judge Koeltl gave a big crystal meth dealer and addict five years in prison, heeding recommendations from the probation department for a "downward departure" in the sentencing. Result: the defendant could serve as little as 2.5 years with good behavior.

This judge looks like a real pushover.

#79 murqtaad

Unfortunately though, he'll probably be allowed to mingle freely and recruit other inmates into his "strongly believed religion". I hope they segregate him.

If her cancer progresses quickly, this may be a death sentence, as it should have been.

/Trying to find a silver lining.

#90 Buzzsawmonkey

So there is a possibility that Lynne Stewart might have gotten a lighter sentence out of sympathy for her recent breast cancer

I'm waiting for the seethe-o-rama from her dhimmi supporters in the media and Hollywood. [paging Sean Penn!]

F***ing cow deserved a firing squad. Twenty-eight months is plain ridiculous.

We are all going to die, and lynne stewart deserves to die in prison.

28 months is a ridiculous sentence for her crime.

#91 Catttt

Damn. That makes "stealing maps" twice as bad as "aiding terrorists."

We deserve destruction.

Speak for yourself. This judge was a Clinton appointment. Stewart's supporters are a dog's breakfast. This trial is about the inadequacy of Leftism as a sustainable political philosophy.

As a breast cancer survivor, I personally don't buy this "don't send me to prison" excuse. Lots of people are cancer survivors. They are not above the law.

Don't do the crime
If you can't do the time.

103 Researcher,

Just like Jihad Johnny Walker. He's a real celeb in the slammer.

Here's another scumbag ACLU lawyer, who has represented himself as working pro-bono to restore the stolen Swiss bank accounts of Holocaust victims, and then quietly put in a claim to pay himself millions.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

The judge is a Clinton apointee. Imagine that.

Clueless Hannity misses an opportunity
Shoebat told him. He wouldn't believe it. Anani told him. He couldn't believe it.

Politically correct pseudo-conservative Sean Hannity had former jihadist Zachariah Anani on Hannity and Colmes the other night to talk about the shameful events at Columbia University, and Hannity passed up another in a long series of opportunities to use his bully pulpit actually to educate Americans about the threat we face and what we can do about it.

HANNITY: Yes. You admit, you say you were trained to fight, kill Jews, to hate Christians and hate Americans. You say every time I killed someone and two or three fighters witnessed it, they would give me a point on my chart. You killed 223 people.
ANANI: That's what my chart says, yes.

HANNITY: Is that what you think, you killed 223 people? You believe you did?

ANANI: Yes. That's equivalent of fights I went on in 40 years of my life on the streets of Beirut.

HANNITY: So now you've changed your mindset. You feel like you were indoctrinated into this ideology of hate. We keep using the term Islamic fascist, and people don't like that term, but there is the use of religion to justify killing and hatred. You're saying you were a part of that.

ANANI: Yes, it's true. Because what you have brought up on teachings is exactly what is obstructed [sic; Anani almost certainly said "instructed"] from the Koran itself, where it teaches you to hate and kill the others who are not Muslims.

Now here Anani has given Hannity a chance to address the foremost problem of our age: the spread of the jihad ideology that fuels Islamic terrorism and the Islamic supremacism that fuels unrest between Muslims and non-Muslims in Europe and elsewhere.

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

#85 new_tommy. We are not doomed as long as we lizards are vigilant.

Lizards of the world-UNITE!

#96 Mike C.

"Bullshit."

Assume the proper response has been given.

Lawyers have ruined this country.

from a Yahoo caption:

The 67-year-old cancer survivor, grandmother of 14

They can't resist, can they?

Fourteen grandchildren... I hope they all become Republicans.

People, don't get me wrong...

but from far away from USA, I'm surprised that this traitorous bitch even got a conviction... when we'll see demonstrations with "free lynne stewart" signs?

#42 Quella

I have the unique position of having sat in on this case. I can tell you that the case is not as strong as one would think at first blush. The messages she transmitted were basically in code, and it's not clear how much she knew of what she was doing.

A- She's not supposed to be transmitting any messages, whether she knows what they say or not.

B- If a terrorist asks you to give a message to a member of his organization and it's in code don't you think the safe assumption is that it's not a birthday greeting?

She's made her lifes work defending the dregs of socitey. Fine. They get a fair trail but once they are convicted they no longer get the benefit of the doubt...they are guilty of the crime. She was not satisified with that and place her judgement (questionable at best) above the laws. She should pay fully for that crime and not get the benefit of being a member of the lefftwing legal club.

I know one book I won't be buying.

MandyManners @ #59: A night with him would cure her of leftiness.

What'd that poor b@stard do to deserve such a fate?

Somewhere that dude shivers in corner at the dread of your woeful imprecation.

28 months for treason is a joke.

Why Muslim Immigration is a Threat to Western Democracy

EU to celebrate subdued 50th birthday party

Turkish youths turning to radical Islam: terror report

The continued radicalisation of especially young Muslims remains concerning, the national anti-terrorism co-ordination office NCTb said on Monday. The NCTb also said it was "remarkable" that a rising number of Turkish youths were finding their way into networks of radical Muslims prepared to use violence against western society.

Earlier, Dutch Turkish youths were appearing occasionally in "jihad networks" made up primarily of North Africans, but there now appears to be whole groups of youths susceptible to radical Islam. "Frustration over the position of Muslims in the Netherlands and anger over the events in conflict regions give food to the feeling that 'something' must be done," the NCTb said in its quarterly report on the terrorism threat in the Netherlands.

Police predicting new round of violence in French suburbs

Almost a year after France's suburban riots, police warned Monday of a new spiral of violence in the country's high-immigration 'banlieues' — where they say they are increasingly the target of attacks with intent to maim, or worse.

A crescendo of outraged alarm from police unions has been triggered by three serious clashes in tough estates near the capital, where officers were stoned and beaten by gangs of youths, as well as by figures showing a growing defiance towards the forces of law and order.

#117 godfrey

The 67-year-old cancer survivor, grandmother of 14

Yeah, I love reading that stuff in the press. So her spawned spawned...that has jack-all to do with her conviction.

Stewart is like a Pavlovian dog. All you have to do is say one or more of the magic phrases: Revolution, power to the people, stick it to the man, speak truth to power and she loses all power of rational thought. For her and her supporters it's 1968 again and the whole world is watching. Well in my little corner of the world, I am seething with outrage (if the muslims can seethe, so can I) and hoping that someday she will answer to a higher Judge.

In the meantime, despite my differences with the GOP, I am going to crawl over broken glass to vote for their candidates. Can you imagine the judicial nominees the hildabeest would propose? The skin crawls at the thought.

#94 Sharona

As a country, and a world, we've forgotten about 9/11. We deserve our destuction.

Hey! I'm a part of America & I don't deserve destruction, nor does anyone else here on LGF. Just because 25% of Americans are retarded doesn't mean we all should be condemned.

The judge is much harder on those who traffic Ecstasy than those who aid and abet terrorists.

# 116 Hucbald

I'm no big fan of lawyers. Your alternative ?

“I am not a violent person,” Sattar said. “I am a human being. I am an America. I am a Muslim who practices and believes strongly in his religion.”

Isn't that a contradictory statement?

(e.g. "I am not white. I am white." or "I am not male. I am male")

How can one "practice & strongly believe" in a religion that says emphatically to kill the infidels, kill the Jews, kill the Christians, et al....but not be a violent person?

..methinks, perchance, that the man may be provaricating..

Is that allowed in Islam?

*dumb liberal look*

~Norsk Troll

They just made her a hero.

She'll wear it as a badge of honor.

Why do the same names keep coming up again and again.

According to records filed with the Internal Revenue Service, Soros's foundation, the Open Society Institute, or OSI, gave $20,000 in September 2002 to the Lynne Stewart Defense Committee.

I just have to say one more thing.

Mother Jones didn't whine like this. Not that I support socialists or want to get into the whole union thing. It's just the "motherly" bit made me think of her. Mother Jones - when she was old, mind you - beat up an intruder, who died of blunt force trauma, and scared off another thug. She didn't whine.

I hate whining.

#111 murqtaad

Great. Just great. Not only do we allow these insane radicals to mingle in prison, but to recruit and be "popular". And we get to pay for it.

I'm all for freedom of religion, but this should not be allowed.

can we have all your files ma'am?

Alert: Mark Stein on the Michael Medved show.

Koeltl went easier on this dirtbag terrorist-supporting lawyer than he did somebody who attempted to defraud an elderly man in North Dakota.

#1 rin

Judges today are just too stupid.

Judges, as a rule, are not stupid. Judges that give out rulings such as this have an agenda. It's called left-wing lunacy.

j

Martha, a cookie baker/salad maker, got 6 months for lying about a stock deal, and this piece of Shi'ite gets less than 2 years for her traitorous activities? Grrrrrr.

I hope her chemo makes her miserable, since it doesn't look like there's any hope of the tough prison lesbians taking a nefarious interest in her . . .

I'm very upset at this sentence...

However, as an American I'm not going to stir up violence or anythign fo the like...

I'll vote Republican.

#72 Quella , Lawhawk
Thanks guys. It's nice to have some informed opinions.

127 Mike C. 10/16/2006 01:13PM PDT
# 116 Hucbald

I'm no big fan of lawyers. Your alternative ?

Mike, not a big fan? Why they are useful, intellengent, and fill a vaulable function and if left to tehmselves very hygenic creatures furthermore..Uh! OH MY, I thought you were dissing pigs! Never mind.

.

Every time I refresh the page I am flashed by her image.
Frightening.

Cancer can br really awful for some correct?

/crosses fingers

# 116 Hucbald Addendum

My point was two-fold. First, law is not easy. Okay, it's not astrophysics, but it is a complex field in it's own right.

Secondly, I don't want judges that do what is "right" in accordance with their personal views, even if they coincide with my own. I want judges that do their very best to discern the law. Period. Sometimes I will not like their rulings. Sometimes I will. But a judiciary that cleaves to interpretation of law and intent is fudamental to the American system of governance.

The average LGFer is nowhere near qualified to be a judge, and I'll put myself at the very front of that line.

We have people in jail for LIFE in California for crimes like failure to return a library book under the "3 strikes" principle.

The sentence is ludicrous and unjust in light of that handed to her co-conspirator. I suppose that we are lucky she wasn't given probation.

The more I see of these lifetime judicial appointments of unelected judges the less I am sure that it is a good idea.

Her sentence should have been to hang from a tall tree near Ground Zero.

God, what have we become that we are so weak and chained to our emotions....that we cannot look evil in the face and condemn it?

#91 Catttt
Here you go. Or here. This is not unusual in the UK.

A hit-and-run driver who killed a three-year-old girl has been sentenced to just 12 weeks in prison. Mohammed Aqueel Hussain had no licence and was driving a stolen car at up to 48mph in a 30mph zone when he hit Levi Bleasdale as she crossed the road with her mother and baby sister. He fled the scene of the crash in Burnley, Lancashire. Levi died of her injuries the next day.
Hussain admitted to failing to stop and report a crash and careless driving. He was jailed for 12 weeks and banned from driving for five years.
Levi’s mother, Kirsty Ryan, said: “This sentence is disgusting.”

#117 godfry:

And they could certainly end up dead at the hands of the very folks that she associated with and assisted in their communications.

Jihadis want to blow stuff up in and around the NYC metro area. Since 1993, there have been at least five plots I can recall off the top of my head, that if successful would have killed thousands.

1993 - WTC Bombing
1993 Landmarks plot
Operation Bojinka
Brooklyn subway bombing plot
9/11
Tunnel bombing/flooding the bathtub at Ground Zero.

Try and try again, the jihadis seek to inflict the maximum number of casualties in their attacks. And they keep revisiting the same basic places.

And Stewart's name and assistance with the jihadi communications will not spare her or her family from the repercussions of any such attack. Her family is at greater risk from the jihadis because of what she did.

And she doesn't care. She and her ilk think the real enemy is the US.

Too bad that the only way to disabuse her of that fact is to watch the jihadis be successful in their efforts. Again.

# 140 BenZ

I did overstate my case there, didn't I ? I have nothing but the greatest respect for some lawyers. And the law is supposed to be the framework of our country/society. I think I owe the thread an apology for that one. My bad.

#121 Terp Mole

LOL! I hadn't thought about that.

#115 kathyn 10/16/2006 01:09PM PDT

#85 new_tommy. We are not doomed as long as we lizards are vigilant.

Lizards of the world-UNITE!

Huzzah, Kathy!

Huzzah!

~Norsk Troll

With time off for good behavior, she'll be out in time to be the star at the Democratic National Convention in '08.
Move over, Michael Moore!

141 javems 10/16/2006 01:21PM PDT

Every time I refresh the page I am flashed by her image.
Frightening.

If you are using MS IE, simply double click on any text in the last post before refreshing,and you will be returned to that post after refresh.

# 142 akak

That's fucking disgusting. We've got cancer patients on this blog, you know. Grow the fuck up.

We have people in jail for LIFE in California for crimes like failure to return a library book under the "3 strikes" principle.

I'd like to see a link or some proof of that, I work as a librarian in California and that sounds wrong.

Now stealing pizza from little kids, yeah and they should burn the sob, but his sentence was reduced to 6 years.

when we'll see demonstrations with "free lynne stewart" signs?

Oh, we're already there.

[caution, this is a link to the traitorous hag's website, you may want to spray monitor with Lysol if you choose to link]

#140 BenZacharia:

OH MY, I thought you were dissing pigs!

Haha! Lawyers are like pigs! What an "intellengent" joke.

This is terrible. I recently finished reading "The Cell" by John Miller, which chronicled the inception of Al-Qaeda. The book links the acquittal of Meir Kahane's killer, Nosair, to the evolution of the cell which would commit the first world trade center bombing, an intercepted plot to bomb NY/NJ landmarks, bridges and tunnels, and the 9/11 attacks.

Kahane was a controversial figure, but his killing was clear - it was witnessed by dozens of people and the killer was apprehended, fleeing the scene, by a US Postal Police officer. Still, a jury blind to the truth acquitted the killer, which led to the deaths of thousands more innocent civilians.

I fear this weak verdict may have a similar effect. Letting terrorist-assistants get off with wrist-slaps cannot produce any good except for jihadis. Innocent human beings who would prefer not to be sacrificed to Allah will be more at risk because of this verdict, which will increase terrorist confidence and risk-taking behavior.

lawhawk

I don't think there's any disabusing them. Their thinking is a closed system. Sometimes I think it goes like this:

America is oppressive.
I have to attack it.
If I attack it, America oppresses me!
Therefore, America is oppressive.
I have to attack it again.
See?! It's oppressing me again!
Etc.

They get some sort of ego boost out of this. Maybe they have "issues."

Seriously, this kind of leftist crap will continue until ordinary Americans march on these courthouses with pitchforks and torches and demand both the traitor AND the judge come out for some real justice. The leftist judges are in effect quisling collaborators. They can make such rulings with total immunity from any consequences.

The result: traitors walk out, ready to work again for the death and destruction of our country.

The solution (see Mussolini archives): tall lamp post, short rope. When the first nukes go off on our soil, have your videocams ready.

#146 bweep

Mohammed Aqueel Hussain had no licence and was driving a stolen car at up to 48mph in a 30mph zone

Well...he can't do hard time, that would be racist.

akak

Better change that before you have to duel.

:|

Good reason to vote republican. Otherwise more of these ass clown judges will be appointed.

#142 akak 10/16/2006 01:21PM PDT

Cancer can br really awful for some correct?

/crosses fingers

#153 Mike C. 10/16/2006 01:28PM PDT

# 142 akak

That's fucking disgusting. We've got cancer patients on this blog, you know. Grow the fuck up.

*Norsk Troll steps back*

Uff da! I don't want any part of this....!

:-(

“If you send her to prison, she’s going to die."

Yeah, duh, that's what a life sentence is supposed to mean.

/seething

Here, we call them pitchforks "ballots." District judges are political appointments. Elect people who will make better appointments.

I ordinarily wouldn't wish the return of cancer on anyone. I'll make an exception for this bitch.

Stewart’s defense lawyer, Elizabeth Fink told the judge just before the sentence was pronounced: “If you send her to prison, she’s going to die. It’s as simple as that.”

Judge: Perhaps she should of thought of that before she committed this crime..

Stewart’s defense lawyer, Elizabeth Fink told the judge just before the sentence was pronounced: “If you send her to prison, she’s going to die. It’s as simple as that.”

The Fink Defense. Not to be confused with the "Twinkie Defense."

We have people in jail for LIFE in California for crimes like failure to return a library book

Do they call in Lt. Bookman?

BOOKMAN: Well, let me tell you something, funny boy. Y'know that little stamp,

the one that says "New York Public Library"? Well that may not mean

anything to you, but that means a lot to me. One whole hell of a lot.

Sure, go ahead, laugh if you want to. I've seen your type before:

Flashy, making the scene, flaunting convention. Yeah, I know what you're

thinking. What's this guy making such a big stink about old library

books? Well, let me give you a hint, junior. Maybe we can live without

libraries, people like you and me. Maybe. Sure, we're too old to change

the world, but what about that kid, sitting down, opening a book, right

now, in a branch at the local library and finding drawings of pee-pees

and wee-wees on the Cat in the Hat and the Five Chinese Brothers?

Doesn't HE deserve better? Look. If you think this is about overdue

fines and missing books, you'd better think again. This is about that

kid's right to read a book without getting his mind warped! Or: maybe

that turns you on, Seinfeld; maybe that's how y'get your kicks. You and

your good-time buddies. Well I got a flash for ya, joy-boy: Party time

is over. Y'got seven days, Seinfeld. That is one week!

Stewart was the victim of a government frame-up when she was convicted in February 2005 of conspiracy to aid and abet terrorism. The spurious charges stemmed from her work as chief counsel for the blind Sheik Omar Abdel Rachman, an Egyptian cleric convicted on conspiracy charges a decade earlier, who asked Steward to release a press statement expressing his views on the U.S.-backed dictatorship of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarack.

It was a frame-up, socialists insist.

Speaking as a New Yorker who could have been blown up by her client.. I hope she slips on her soap in the prison shower and cracks her skull open.

Old joke I am reminded of, Reader's Digest version-

Convict- But, your honor, I'm 67 years old, there's no way I could serve a full thirty year sentance.

Judge- Then just do as much time as you can you can.

Amalieeeee....

Elizabeth Fink... wasn't she married to Gussie Finknottle? After the divorce, she must have shortened her name.

#154 piglet

We have people in jail for LIFE in California for crimes like failure to return a library book under the "3 strikes" principle.

I'd like to see a link or some proof of that, I work as a librarian in California and that sounds wrong.

Might have been a video. TV report not too terribly long after you nice folks put that law in place.

#153 Mike

Mike, why do you think that any of us here would wish for the suffering of cancer patients in general, much less our friends at LGF? I'm quite certain this is not what Akak had in mind with his comment. We can't stand this woman -- she is guilty of treason, of endangering the lives of millions, and she deserves to suffer, preferably by spending the rest of her life in jail, but that probably will not happen. She has cancer; in a weird sort of way, it seems like cosmic justice, that's all. I'm sure that no offense to cancer patients was intended. I've cared for patients suffering through their cancer ordeal, and knowing what I know, I do not feel sorry for this hag. Does that make me a bad person? You decide for yourself.

Oh no. Am I gonna have to fight over here too?

And when she gets early parole, she'll be the toast of Manhatten. Harold Pinter will write a play about her noble sacrifice, which will sweep the Tonys and get turned into an HBO mini-series, and sweep the Emmys.

172 godfrey 10/16/2006 01:38PM PDT

Amalieeeee....

Elizabeth Fink... wasn't she married to Gussie Finknottle? After the divorce, she must have shortened her name.

My man godfrey...

No I do believe her maiden name was Fink and her married moniker was Nottle.

:D

Oh, and should it be any surprise that Soros helped fund her defense?

mama..

Where's the fight?

#171 tankdemon 10/16/2006 01:37PM PDT

Old joke I am reminded of, Reader's Digest version-

Convict- But, your honor, I'm 67 years old, there's no way I could serve a full thirty year sentance.

Judge- Then just do as much time as you can you can.

Funny!

/hi TD

Bweep, I read the City Journal piece by Theodore Dalrymple, so I know just what you're talking about.

Real Crime, Fake Justice

146 bweep

Gaaaah!

I mean - I'm glad the Brits stopped using the punishments Oscar Wilde* suffered, but I'd say a middle ground is needed!

*

With slouch and swing around the ring
We trod the Fools' Parade!
We did not care: we knew we were
The Devils' Own Brigade:
And shaven head and feet of lead
Make a merry masquerade.

We tore the tarry rope to shreds
With blunt and bleeding nails;
We rubbed the doors, and scrubbed the floors,
And cleaned the shining rails:
And, rank by rank, we soaped the plank,
And clattered with the pails.

We sewed the sacks, we broke the stones,
We turned the dusty drill:
We banged the tins, and bawled the hymns,
And sweated on the mill:
But in the heart of every man
Terror was lying still.

From The Ballad of Reading Gaol by Oscar Wilde

# 174 AJiJ

I don't wish anybody a horrible and painful death from cancer. Like the one my mother suffered. But hey - that's just me. You go your own road. And may your God have mercy on you.

Useful idiots. I don't feel sorry for her having cancer either. I don't think I am a bad person at all. If someone has to get cancer then it should be her. I have no qualms about hoping she suffers and has a terrible time in prison. As media man said she'll be the toast of the town when she returns. It is my hope that she'll croak in prison. We all have to die sometime and hope her time is sooner rather than later. Again, I'm not a bad person just sick and tired of these liberal judges and these liberal idiots getting away with murder, which she did.

#176 media_man,

Don't worry. By that time the Sopranos should be back on, and we can just send over Tony or Chris or Paulie to whack her.

#109 Godfrey

Thank you for refusing to lay down & quit like some posters here. We can not let the Democrats get us all killed, that's the bottom line.

Letting terrorists and their enablers go IS and WAS the Democrat approach to fighting terrorism. Clinton's "law enforcement" approach did not address the evil we face.

Share this Clintonian legacy with everyone you know. Freedom for terrorists is what the Dems want to bring back.

OT

More Reid Corruption?

If so, the MSM probably won't get too excited about it!

Must have been her brother, then.

Poor old Gussie: a newt-raising teetotaler who gives out prizes at Market Snodsbury Grammar School while drunk, and hopelessly in love with that ridiculous Madeline Bassett.

So cognitive dissonance is standard operating procedure with this clan.

Gee whiz. Two years in a state funded Country Club. That'll teach those jihadists.

#183 Mike C.
My mother died from cancer too. And I would wish it on Lynn Stewart.

Mike, I'm sorry about your mother. I'm sorry this touched a nerve for you, and it is understandable.

Since I didn't have the same experience as you, instead of thinking of a beloved mother who suffered a hard death from cancer, I think of the thousands of trapped people in the Twin Towers, who lept to their deaths or who died, in a state of panic and terror, of smoke inhalation and fire.

Lynn Stewart's death, when it comes, will be a walk in the park comparatively speaking. I have a clean conscience about wishing her ill.

If Stewart and Sheehan are representative of how moonbat women look I forgive them for being so pissed off all the time.

The trouble with traitor-hugging bullshit like this is that, following another major terror attack, we could see calls from the public for a more autocratic government.

Put her in jail and she will die....? Uh, she was passing information to terrorists, knowingly, from what I understand. Why shouldn't she die in jail?

We're not talking about someone who was blindsided into something. This "attorney" knew who she was working for, and I'm sure she knew exactly what she was doing.

There is no reason to feel sorry for her. She was and is a traitor.

mama winger (#175),

Am I gonna have to fight over here too?

Take your pick:

You can jump on the "poor Lynn, as a laywer she's just too stupid to know that the coded messages she's passing along from her convicted mass-murderer terrorist client are anything but sweetness & light" excuse makers,

Or the thoughtless juvinile

"I hope that fat ugly bitch dies a slow painful death from cancer" hopefuls.

alegrias

I've been away a while. Lizards have been talking of quitting? Impossible. Must be moby's.

/salutes moby's with appropriate finger

Very interesting piece on Stewart's defense by Attorney Andrew McCarthy, the man who prosecuted Miss Stewart's client, Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman..

Moreover, as I tried to point out (in obvious futility) to Ms. Preston, Stewart’s conviction does not pertain to what she did while she was actually defending the blind sheikh. The government has always been extremely deferential to the needs of attorneys representing accused terrorists as they prepare for trial, conduct trial, prepare for sentencing, and draft any appeals. The acts on which Stewart’s convictions were based took place long after Abdel Rahman’s trial and sentencing, long after his appeals were rejected, and well beyond the time allotted for filing habeas corpus petitions to attack his convictions. When she was indicted, Stewart was not performing the function of a lawyer defending a terrorist; her prosecution thus portends no interference with lawyers engaged in the zealous representation of criminal defendants.

ttp[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

#190 maddogg 10/16/2006 01:47PM PDT
#183 Mike C.
My mother died from cancer too. And I would wish it on Lynn Stewart.

As a cancer survivor, I would not wish it on my worst enemy. I personally think it is mean-spirited and evil to wish cancer on someone.

SATTER: “I am not a violent person,I am a human being...an America. I am a Muslim who practices and believes strongly in his religion.”

I believe this is what is known as an oxymoron. Like Jumbo Shrimp and Honest Politicians (or honest lawyers or honest judges).

My own father died of cancer, and yes, I hope her's is painful and horrible.

Is this a matter of lawyers being unable to discipline themselves?

Or just liberal moonbats?

Or both.....?

198 Catttt 10/16/2006 01:50PM PDT

#190 maddogg 10/16/2006 01:47PM PDT

My mother died from cancer too. And I would wish it on Lynn Stewart.

As a cancer survivor, I would not wish it on my worst enemy. I personally think it is mean-spirited and evil to wish cancer on someone.

Amended to make sure my comment was directed properly.

Sorry if this is a repeat, but her major fundraiser for legal defense is(drumroll)

George Soros.
[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

The contrast is starker still. Recall that President Bush, through Attorney General John Ashcroft (and no small amount of teeth-gnashing from the Times and the Left), adopted a “spit on the street” approach to terrorism — authorizing suspects to be locked up on any available, legally valid charge, in order to disable them and convey to terrorist groups that we were pursuing them aggressively.

Compare President Clinton, who has spent a lot of time lately defending his national security record. (See here, here and here.) In 1999, he pardoned 16 members of the FALN terrorist organization which, as Investors Business Daily editorialized last month, “carried out more than 150 bombings in the U.S., including the lunchtime bombing of Fraunces Tavern in New York on Jan. 24, 1975, that killed four.” (Former Clinton advisor Dick Morris has indicated that this was done to help then-First Lady Hillary Clinton win the votes of Puerto Ricans in the anticipated New York Senate race.)

On January 20, 2001, moreover, Clinton’s very last acts in power included pardons for two convicted Weather Underground terrorists, Susan Rosenberg and Laura Sue Whitehorn.

Lynne Stewart is a figure who straddles the September 10 and September 11 worlds — the divergent Clinton and Bush counterterrorism models. As the lead-up to her sentencing shows, it matters a great deal which model we choose.

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

#183 Mike C.

I don't wish anybody a horrible and painful death from cancer. Like the one my mother suffered. But hey - that's just me. You go your own road. And may your God have mercy on you.

I like your sentiments, Mike. Henry David Thoreau said: "Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them." So I try to not 'pile on' when someone that I despise is suffering or in trouble.

As for me, I hope that this lady repents of what she has done.

Repents.

Nothing is more important that that.

~Norsk Troll

Amalie

Beautiful. That takes care of that. Thanks for the link.

arf,

Liberal moonbats. We have quite a few good lawyers around here.

205 EtNorskTroll

Well put. Thank you.

OT

If any of you are fence-sitting on whether to vote or not in November, please please take a moment to read this article which was linked on the Democratic National Committee blog today:

excerpt:

While blowing up churches and killing preachers is surely a violation of other morals we hold dear (as well as being downright illegal), it should be perfectly acceptable for us to picket and confront members of Religious Right churches and parachurch organizations as they enter and leave their buildings.

Go to their churches on Sunday Morning. You can find out when services begin by reading the Saturday newspaper. Take big signs with horrible pictures of people who have committed suicide because of the torment caused them by the Religious Right, and wave your signs in their faces. Yell at them. Pick out the nice family with kids in their Sunday best, and get in front of them. Confront these people with the damage their kids will suffer by being raised in such an intolerant institution. Wave your gruesome signs in front of little old ladies, and tell them how their donations are being used to cause such carnage to young women at abortion clinics, and to women who wish to get equal pay for equal work, and to young Gays seeking answers.

#188 godfrey 10/16/2006 01:47PM PDT

Must have been her brother, then.

Poor old Gussie: a newt-raising teetotaler who gives out prizes at Market Snodsbury Grammar School while drunk, and hopelessly in love with that ridiculous Madeline Bassett.

So cognitive dissonance is standard operating procedure with this clan.

lol ~

Sorry - here's the link:

[Link: www.elroy.net...]

mama is beside herself today

From the first day Lynne Stewart walks into prison, the ripe herstory of Lesbianism in women's facilities will come to a screeching halt.

YEEECH!

I am not a violent person,” Sattar said. “I am a human being. I am an America. I am a Muslim who practices and believes strongly in his religion.”

Thats right.......

Qur’an:24:55 “Allah has promised to those among you who believe and do good work that He will make them rulers of the earth. He will establish in authority their religion—the one which He has chosen for them.”
Qur’an 2:191 “And kill them wherever you find and catch them. Drive them out from where they have turned you out; for Al-Fitnah (polytheism, disbelief, oppression) is worse than slaughter.”

#198 Cattt

As a cancer survivor, I would not wish it on my worst enemy. I personally think it is mean-spirited and evil to wish cancer on someone.

Really? You mean you wouldn't wish it on mass murderers, genocidal militants, baby rapers, etc?

Hmmm. Well, I, for one, wish a lot of bad stuff on my worst enemies, but then, it takes a lot to get on my bad side so my worst enemies are pretty horrendous people by anyone's standards.

mama 209,

say what?

Pick out the nice family with kids in their Sunday best, and get in front of them.

That's insanity.

Compare President Clinton, who has spent a lot of time lately defending his national security record. (See here, here and here.) In 1999, he pardoned 16 members of the FALN terrorist organization which, as Investors Business Daily editorialized last month, “carried out more than 150 bombings in the U.S., including the lunchtime bombing of Fraunces Tavern in New York on Jan. 24, 1975, that killed four.” (Former Clinton advisor Dick Morris has indicated that this was done to help then-First Lady Hillary Clinton win the votes of Puerto Ricans in the anticipated New York Senate race.)

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

This is horrific. Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Clinton

Take everything from the 1960s, roll it up in a ball, cook for hours and hours, then you have a condensed, tarry piece of shit that is everything reprehensible about the 60s generation--

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you--Lynn Stewart.

Tah-Tah.

If you want to wish poetic justice on Lynn, it would be that she died three days after being released from prison, after puking up blood for 48 hours because her job as a message passer for her murdering terrorist client was a success.

# 191 AJiJ

I'm an American, and I ostesibly live in America. We have laws. People who break those laws are charged, face trial, and are sentanced if they are found guilty. Sometimes the sentances are too harsh. Sometimes the sentances are too light. Sometimes the charges in and of themselves are not sufficient or are too harsh (in our opinions). Be that as it may, the law is the law. It's the basic foundation of our society. I wish Stewart's sentance, and charges, had been harsher myself. But to wish somebody a painful death from cancer ? I'm just sorry all to hell, but that goes over the line in my universe. And I'm an atheist. It's not so much that it hit a personal note as that such a wish violates my basic principles.

Well, I had a parent die of cancer too, so I think I am qualified to act as an arbitrator and offer a compromise:

Nix on cancer, but we can all hope she catches a really, really bad case of fungal toe while in prison.

Okay?

Wow, and she's ugly, too. Really ugly. Between the ugly, the deceit, and the cancer - it looks like she's been dealt a pretty heavy blow from the get-go.

When people who lose people to cancer wonder why it only takes "the good ones", I like to think people like this exist to do their small part to balance the load. Not everyone who dies of cancer is a saint. Having a terminal disease doesn't automatically cleanse anyone of their sins. In her case, not everyone who dies of cancer will even be missed.

So, let's piss on this ugly woman's grave and move along.

# 198 Cattt

I know what you meant by that, but please clarify it so as not to make it appear that I wished cancer on somebody. Thanks.

Somebody needs to inform that dense defense attorney that Lynn Stewart is doing to die whether she goes to prison or not. She can do the time for her crime same as the next fellow. The people she helped murder didn't get an easy out ...

#219 Mike C.

# 191 AJiJ

I'm an American, and I ostesibly live in America. We have laws. People who break those laws are charged, face trial, and are sentanced if they are found guilty. Sometimes the sentances are too harsh. Sometimes the sentances are too light. Sometimes the charges in and of themselves are not sufficient or are too harsh (in our opinions). Be that as it may, the law is the law. It's the basic foundation of our society. I wish Stewart's sentance, and charges, had been harsher myself. But to wish somebody a painful death from cancer ? I'm just sorry all to hell, but that goes over the line in my universe. And I'm an atheist. It's not so much that it hit a personal note as that such a wish violates my basic principles.

My mother, rest her soul, always used to tell us growing up to be careful what we wished for as it might come back to haunt us.

“I am not a violent person,” Sattar said

But I play one on court TV.

#209 mama winger

Mama?

Can I have a linkey, pleaaaaaaase?

*Norsk Troll smiles sweetly*

~;-)

Norsk Troll

No need to wish cancer on the beast, she's already got it. Lets hope its swift and awful.

Norsk 226,

see 211.

# 205 EtNorskTroll

Not a religious person myself, to say the least. But I do appreciate the sentiment.

Her husband looks like a homeless guy.

My sister and father both died of cancer...I dont wish it on anyone...I believe she will face a tougher Judge when she dies...and get a sentence that will make cancer seem small.

227 NoSubmission

You made your point. Must you repost it over and over?

#186 alegrias
"Thank you for refusing to lay down & quit like some posters here. We can not let the Democrats get us all killed, that's the bottom line."

I just have to say this...I live in small town Missouri, I have talked to people who are democrats and these people are clueless about Islam. They had no idea what a koran even was.

One family member is 78 years old, and a life long dem and he can NOT even read! He is brain washed by the network liberal news.

There was no talking to him...the others are just as IGNORANT to anything outside their own little bubble.

It's scares me to death..sadly I think we are going to lose (I hope not), I try to wake these people up, I even have two bumper stickers on my car about Islam NOT being about PEACE.

I do what I can...I have a big mouth!

Has the whole world gone mad, or is it just me?

Iran leader in Bush 'Satan' claim

By Frances Harrison
BBC News, Tehran

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has reportedly delivered a scathing attack on US President George W Bush, saying he is inspired by Satan.

Speaking to a group of supporters, Mr Ahmadinejad said he himself had inspirational links to God, Iranian media reports.

He was talking to supporters at a mosque in the capital Tehran.

The reports come as Iran is facing the prospect of UN sanctions over its nuclear programme.

The president has been making light of the risk of any confrontation with the outside world.

According to the Iranian media, Mr Ahmadinejad said he had inspirational links to God, and went on to say that if you were a true believer, God would show you miracles.

Then the Iranian president said Mr Bush was similar to him.

According to Mr Ahmadinejad, the US president also receives inspiration - but it is from Satan.

He repeated: "Satan inspires Mr Bush."

Mr Ahmadinejad also reiterated that Iran would not suspend its nuclear programme, "even for one hour", and said there would be no retreat, "even one millimetre back".

He dismissed talk about possible war breaking out over the nuclear issue as nonsense, saying some people were making an unnecessary fuss about US naval ships reportedly sailing towards the region.

Story from BBC NEWS:

#227 NoSubmission

As the husband of a breat cancer survivor, I normally pray for women with it. But in Lynne Stewart's case, I'll make an exception. I hope the bitch dies in prison.

#230 Ward Cleaver:

Her husband looks like a homeless guy.

With that as your wife, would you ever go home?

Geeps

I can get behind that. Or run over by an illegal.

#187 Greg

His land deal was brushed off because he didn't personally own the land(it was owned by a shadow corporation,which Reid owned)so this will be brushed off because he paid it back.

Just like the illegal campaign contributions Clintoon and Gore recieved.

As long as you pay back ill gotten gains ,its OK.

If I'm ever reduced to robbing liquor stores,I'm going to use that defense....pay back the money and I won't be prosecuted....right?

"Everything is legal until you get caught"

-Democrat mantra

#181 Ward Cleaver
#182 Catttt
So are all judges elected in the USA? We need something like that here. We should at least be able to vote them out. Of course if you want a REAL farce you go to the European court!

It's not just that this particular woman is a traitor, ugly, sick or whatever. The important issue is that a terrorist accomplice got a slap on the wrist.

The message this verdict will send to other accomplices - be they lawyers, drivers, bankrollers, whomever, is: "Take your chance. Verdicts are lenient."

While not in the "let's string her up because the courts failed" camp, I also wouldn't say I wouldn't wish death from cancer on anyone. If I were to learn that OBL, for instance, had expired from... well, cancer, AIDs, Ebola, Marburg virus, what have you... I'd break out the champagne. This is no more a commentary on good people who have died from cancer, than would be my rejoicing over OBL's taking a 5.56mm trepanation from a SeAL team linked to good people who have died from gunfire.

#232 Catttt

I posted it twice. I live in NYC. I am directly in the line of fire of people like this. Try to see that. Thanks.

2240 merav

From Charles' post above:

Koeltl sentenced Sattar to 24 years in prison.

Not a slap on the wrist by any means.

Has anyone seen any books that analyze why so many leftists have this pathological need to be "saviors"? In particular, saviors of criminals, murderers, terrorists, and any groups that hate our country? It's such an obvious characteristic of theirs.

Are they rebelling against their parents for their lack of attention and love? Does it give them a psychic boost to their own low self-esteem by reinforcing how caring, selfless, and above-the-madding-crowd they elevate themselves to? Or perhaps it's just because they're sick little shits who enjoy pissing off large numbers of people?

Any recommended reading here would be appreciated.

# 231 storagemanager

This must be a sign of the Apocalyse - good post.

Go check out killgore's link in #15 now.

The Kosmonauts are on the "Scooter/Rove" bandwagon and the "what good will putting her in jail serve"

It is punishment for breaking the law,stupid!

They probably think that "victimless" crimes deserve no jail time also.

Four o'Clock is the new Five O'Clock.

I'm having a drink.

#241 Occasional Reader 10/16/2006 02:05PM PDT

While not in the "let's string her up because the courts failed" camp, I also wouldn't say I wouldn't wish death from cancer on anyone. If I were to learn that OBL, for instance, had expired from... well, cancer, AIDs, Ebola, Marburg virus, what have you... I'd break out the champagne. This is no more a commentary on good people who have died from cancer, than would be my rejoicing over OBL's taking a 5.56mm trepanation from a SeAL team linked to good people who have died from gunfire.

This is my opinion too. I hope you don't mind if I use yours as my own.

Amalie 243,

Koeltl sentenced Sattar to 24 years in prison.

Ahh, it'll be like home. He'll be surrounded by lots of muslims and man on man lovin'. What's there not to love?

mama winger (#209),

From your link:

Go to their churches on Sunday Morning. You can find out when services begin by reading the Saturday newspaper. Take big signs with horrible pictures of people who have committed suicide because of the torment caused them by the Religious Right, and wave your signs in their faces. Yell at them. Pick out the nice family with kids in their Sunday best, and get in front of them. Confront these people with the damage their kids will suffer by being raised in such an intolerant institution. Wave your gruesome signs in front of little old ladies, and tell them how their donations are being used to cause such carnage to young women at abortion clinics, and to women who wish to get equal pay for equal work, and to young Gays seeking answers.

Wow, and Glenn Reynolds and John Hinderaker want you to vote for these people.

I'm seeing a lot of shallow in those folks.

#236 andthenblammo!

#230 Ward Cleaver:

Her husband looks like a homeless guy.

With that as your wife, would you ever go home?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and only skin deep, evil does all the way to the bone.

Mama Winger, this is an eye opening statement for those who do want to sit home. I wouldn't put this past them at all. These leftist pigs mock those who go to church and feel religion is a sick thing. They're the ones who call themselves tolerant-yeah right!

“If you send her to prison, she’s going to die. It’s as simple as that,” defense lawyer Elizabeth Fink had told the judge before the sentence was pronounced."

I have absolutely no problem with traitors dying in prison, although being hanged in the public square would be my first choice.

None of this lameass lethal injection crap.

#249 Murqtaad 10/16/2006 02:07PM PDT

Amalie 243,

Koeltl sentenced Sattar to 24 years in prison.

Ahh, it'll be like home. He'll be surrounded by lots of muslims and man on man lovin'. What's there not to love?

The food? The small cramp space? The NeoNazi's?

#248 Amalie:

I hope you don't mind if I use yours as my own.

Sure, why stop now?

[KIDDING!]

255 Occasional Reader

Very bad man, really good poster on LGF.

:D

Amalie--

"When I want your opinion, I"ll give it to you."

#202 Catttt
I am glad to know you survived cancer, and I wish you good health for the rest of your life, and also your family. Feel free to think me mean spirited, if you wish. I would wish worse on this creature if I could. And much worse on the enemies of this country.

OT

You're an Islamic Supremacist and want to build a mosque in Genoa, Italy. You raise big money, you get a site, but the deal is blocked. Then some Capuchin monks come to your aid. Then an Egyptian expatriate sprays invective over the whole idea, and now the deal is in jeopardy again.

What's a poor Islamic Supremacist to do?

#252 terri g

There's a lot at stake this election. I got myself an absentee ballot to mail in just in case I'm hit by a bus or something and can't vote in person.

Can't be too careful. :)

#257 Occasional Reader 10/16/2006 02:12PM PDT

Amalie--

"When I want your opinion, I"ll give it to you."

I know, I have a whole hard drive full of them.

:D

#239 bweep

No, Federal judges are nominated by the president, confirmed by the Senate, and serve for life, unless they resign or are impeached.

Judge Alcee Hastings from Florida was impeached for accepting bribes. He ran for the House as a Democrat (natch!) and got elected.

Amalie

You must of missed it, the nazis and kluckers luv the moslems, allies against ZOG.

NEW YORK — Civil rights lawyer Lynne Stewart was sentenced this afternoon to 28 months in prison

If she does the whole stint, she'll be out in Jan '09. Hillary won't even get a chance to pardon her.

"Grand Ayatollah Seyyed Husayn Borujerdi is the Shia Ayatollah who supports separation of church and state. He has been arrested and tortured many times by the current regime for these views." [Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
While one person fights to change the muslims over there, we have one trying to endanger ALL of us over here.
/sigh

Take big signs with horrible pictures of people who have committed suicide

Smell the sensitivity!

#259 godfrey 10/16/2006 02:12PM PDT

OT

You're an Islamic Supremacist and want to build a mosque in Genoa, Italy. You raise big money, you get a site, but the deal is blocked. Then some Capuchin monks come to your aid. Then an Egyptian expatriate sprays invective over the whole idea, and now the deal is in jeopardy again.

What's a poor Islamic Supremacist to do?

Isn't this Muslim Murphy's Law?

#44 THX 42

Such an excellent question, and excellent theories. I have asked myself the same thing. All I can conclude is that they are driven by an ego that tells them they can be superior if they "transcend" normal human emotions. Emotions get a bad rap, but, emotions are sometimes appropriate. It is a normal human emotion to wish an evil person dead. It is a normal human emotion to wish an evil person to experience suffering. It is our sense of justice that inspires these emotions. Moonbats who champion Evil think of themselves as super human -- they do not succumb to these "common emotions" that plague less enlightened people.

You know, I just call a spade a spade and I own up to my true feelings. I don't even believe most people who claim to have noble sentiments about the wicked among us. I think many times, probably most of the time, they are just telling a lie in order to elevate themselves in the eyes of others. These are the first people who would go rampaging and raging if someone THEY loved had leapt to their death from a height of 100 stories, with a blazing fire and smoke at their backs. So, no, I don't trust their self-professed inner goodness.

214 American Jewess in Jerusalem 10/16/2006 01:56PM PDT
#198 Cattt

As a cancer survivor, I would not wish it on my worst enemy. I personally think it is mean-spirited and evil to wish cancer on someone.

Really? You mean you wouldn't wish it on mass murderers, genocidal militants, baby rapers, etc?

Yes, really. I suspect your question is offered in a snide manner, but I'll answer it straight. Yes, really.

I try really hard not to wish evil on anyone. To me, wishing evil on someone is not only a pointless, small-minded, ad hoc reaction - it is pointless to the recipient and harmful to the soul of the wisher. It leads to more such selfish, self-hurting, self-centered behavior on the part of people who are God in their own little mind. I certainly don't wish illness on people because I judge them to have been evil.

That doesn't mean I accept them and overlook or countenance their evil behavior.

It means I don't tempt the Lord or tell Him what to do. It also means I sincerely would hope that those who do evil or embrace evil will repent of their ways, before their soul perishes and they are barred forever from God's presence - a much worse fate than any illness on this earth.

If the Dems regain control of the House, Alcee Hastings is in line to head the House Intelligence committee. WTF.

Wiki article on Hastings

244 THX:

It is victimology

Ie: they relate to whomever they think is a victim. (no matter for what reason they are victims...ie: their own lazyness, their own genocidal intentions etc.)

They see everything as big guy vs. little guy & no matter WHO the "little guy" is...they side with him.

Its a mixture of arrogance, American Exceptionalism, guilt, & a genuine desire to do good.

That is why they can support "gay rights" yet @ the same time support the "Islamicists" (who would kill gays) as they see both Gays & Islamists as victims (the little guys). (gays of America society....Islamists of American acts)

263 BenZ

Yeah, they all love each other until they stick a shiv between your ribs or serve you a _________ cocktail.

#262 Ward Cleaver

Judge Alcee Hastings from Florida was impeached for accepting bribes. He ran for the House as a Democrat (natch!) and got elected.

And if the Bonkeys take the House, he'll be the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

/just one more reason to stop Speaker Pelosi!

#233, VP45. Knowledge is a valuable thing but ignorance is priceless.

TotallySirius (#238),

Just like the illegal campaign contributions Clintoon and Gore received.

As long as you pay back ill gotten gains ,its OK.

That was then.

One of the biggest donors to the Democrats of Tennessee was arrested on Friday for embezzling millions in retirement funds he was managing (including employee accounts of the TN Democratic Party, the TN Board of Regents and Nashville Metro). But the Democrats announced late last week that they intended to keep $50k+ in donations from him.

Now they just keep the dirty money and say fuck you you stupid idiots that let us steal from your pension funds.

Oh, and don't forget to vote Democrat! on Nov. 7th.