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Pro-Israel Muslim Editor Beaten, Charged with Sedition in Bangladesh

Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 6:20:28 pm PDT

Advocating a reasonable policy toward Israel in Bangladesh will get you a visit in your office by leading officials of the ruling party—who will beat you senseless, rob the company safe, and charge you with sedition: Pro-Israeli Bangladeshi editor beaten by crowd including state officials. (Hat tip: Howard.)

A Muslim journalist facing charges of sedition for advocating ties with Israel was recently attacked and beaten by a crowd in Bangladesh that allegedly included leading officials of the country’s ruling party, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury, editor of the Weekly Blitz newspaper, an English-language publication based in the Bangladeshi capital of Dhaka, was working in his office on October 5 when nearly 40 people stormed the premises. The mob beat Choudhury, leaving him with a fractured ankle, and looted cash that was kept in the company safe. Choudhury was briefly hospitalized.

According to a statement appearing on the Web site of the Weekly Blitz, the attackers were led by Helal Khan, international affairs secretary of Jasas, and included Babul Ahmed, Jasas’s secretary-general. Jasas is the cultural wing of the ruling Bangladeshi National Party (BNP).

During the assault, Ahmed is said to have shouted at Choudhury, labeling him an “agent of the Jews.”

In a photo taken shortly after the incident that was obtained exclusively by the Post, Choudhury can be seen hunched over a table wearing a torn shirt while a Bangladeshi policeman dressed in blue chats with two BNP officials. Both officials took part in the attack.

No arrests were made, and police refused to allow Choudhury to file charges against his attackers.

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1 Mrs. Right  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:21:39pm

Religion of pieces.

2 Mrs. Right  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:22:21pm

It MUST be a slow night--I'm never first!

3 sparkmechanic  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:22:34pm

And who expected anything else. ROPma

4 right wing zephyr  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:22:59pm

Now?!?!?

5 FriarsTale  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:23:34pm

we gotta start giving people like him political asylum
he is a hero
I hope he does not become a martyr for rational thought

6 whiterasta  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:25:41pm

May the caliphate continue to be inbred, ignorant, poverty stricken, disease ridden, and stupid.

May the islamis self-genocide themselves out of existance completely.

islam is really the most depraved and awful blight upon the face of the Earth.

7 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:26:54pm

Now isn't that nice. Such tolerance of opinions.

This guy is lucky he wasn't simply lynched.

8 PETN Sandwich  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:27:49pm

Lot's of seditionist Jews in Bangladesh?

Must be, 'cause I can't fathem any other reason here for sedition charges. Unless, however improbable, the easy-going SE asian ROP is anti-semetic.

9 Dr. Manhattan  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:29:47pm

Enjoy your shitty country bangaladeshis.

10 Daisy  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:30:08pm

ROP attacks again.

11 Cartman  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:30:16pm

And the beat goes on...

12 Hyphen  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:30:48pm

To any Muslim or leftist reading this, I have one question:

When are you going to wake up?


It's Islam, stupid!

13 pegcity  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:31:48pm

thy're as clever as they are starving.

Next time the monsoons flood 90% of their country ill be sure to send some money to the JNF.

14 GoatGuy  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:32:05pm

Give an ignorant mob Information, and they'll turn on whomever you pin down with your pen.

Islam should henceforth be condemned as the Religion of Ignorance, for it seeks to absolve society from breaking the tyranny of ignorance, and indeed it lauds those how are satisfied with a single book of utterances that are unintelligible, written in a tongue that is dead, and are not understood by but the fewest scholars on the face of this earth. the religion of ingnorance&trade further holds as dogma that its ignorami (which is what we should refer Jihadists as) should become cannon fodder, should make themselves into not just a human shield, but a wasted human spear.

The Army Ants have a Religion. The Religion of Ignorance. And sadly, the EU and the apologists of the West are looking to find any possible Lord Chamberlain's approach at dealing with The Islamic Mob.

Fat chance.

GoatGuy

15 rickl  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:32:06pm

The "cultural wing" of the BNP.

Some culture.

16 Cartman  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:32:10pm

Did George Harrison have any clue what he was promoting, back in the day?

17 6patrick6  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:33:58pm

Ah, yes, the RoP displaying its "tolerance' and "acceptance" of those that do not march in lockstep with their fascist leaders. How sweet.

CAIR to comment, Doogie?

18 Dr. Manhattan  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:34:41pm

#12

Can't you see that it's the raging mob that is the victim here?

They speak truth to power about the apartheid regime of Isreal, and what do they get? Calluses from throwing stones at Jews. The calluses are a zionist conspiracy!

19 whiterasta  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:36:18pm

When I pass rum through my kidneys into the Carribbean, does that cause floods in Bangladesh?

20 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:37:35pm

What a journalist! We could use a million in the West with his integrity.

21 trigger girlie  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:38:19pm

Well, thats NOTHING compared to Bushitler's nazi govt. where you have to take off shoes at the airport and a tall latte is 3.75 at Starbucks! Oh, the wonderful Bangladesh!

/do I need a tag?

22 Tokyobk  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:39:56pm

Great, at least we have a heads up as what things will be like in the Islamic Republic of Southern Thailand of the next few decades.

23 zakistan  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:40:59pm

Cartman, what are you talking about? George Harrison had nothing to do with Bangledesh or Islam, as far as I know. He was fascinated with HINDU-Indian culture, music and religion.

Big difference.

24 maddogg  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:42:14pm

Ah, beautiful Bangmeass, proof that God loves a hongry Muslim.

25 Tokyobk  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:42:24pm
26 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:43:08pm

Whats next?

Muslim Eskimo mob attacks baby seal?
Oh wait. That the libs would give a shit about.

Or maybe their brains would melt.

27 directorblue  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:43:32pm

The same thing probably happens at the New York Times. After all, they routinely censor all the news that's not fit to print.

But it's certainly fun to imagine Maureen Dowd living in one of these countries!

28 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:44:03pm

During the assault, Ahmed is said to have shouted at Choudhury, labeling him an “agent of the Jews.”

See what you need to understand IS...when this peacemaker says "Jews" he really means...Zionists that eat children & drink blood.....

I know he said "Jew" but I know better what he really meant...

ok? you Fascists?

29 Just Another Four-Letter Word  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:45:04pm

Are you sure he's a Muslim? 'Cause he sure doesn't act like one...

A MINO, perhaps?

JAFLW

30 engineboss  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:46:45pm

George Harrison recorded an album with a song .....Bangledesh,Bangledesh. It was a fund raiser for these morons

32 Jack Reacher  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:47:44pm
The mob beat Choudhury, leaving him with a fractured ankle, and looted cash that was kept in the company safe.

Mayhem and looting; two of Mohammed's favorite passtimes. Mo would be proud of his people.

33 EE  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:48:16pm

Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury needs the help of the world to preserve his basic human rights.

This brave editor dares speak the truth, and he does so in a land that has gone berserk with hatred, so that it denies the most basic of human rights: the right to freedom of expression.

The participation of leaders of Jasas, the cultural wing of the ruling party of Bangladesh, in leading the violence against Choudhury, shows that Jasas is led by criminals. The ruling party, the BNP, if it does nothing about this criminality of Jasas, will be complicit in this criminality.

I hope that the Congress, and our Sec. of State, will take note of the descent of Bangladesh into a denial of a basic human right: freedom of expression. And I hope that they will demand that the criminals who lead Jasas will be suitably punished.

If the mainstream media will not notice what is going on with the attack against Choudhury, I hope that much of the blogosphere will notice. His safety depends on the world's keeping an eye on his fate, and on the Bangladeshis knowing that the world is watching.

Thank you Charles for featuring this article.

34 Midas Mulligan  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:48:25pm

#5 FriarsTale

I've been thinking the same thing.

Civilized societies should offer asylum to people who stand-up to the RoP (so long, of course, as they renounce Islam in all its forms).

It will be a nice counterbalance for when we start deporting the hate-spewing imams, women who insist on wearing veils, and anyone else who wants to live in the 7th century.

35 shutterbug  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:50:15pm

In 1971, George Harrison, Ravi Shankar, and many others, performed a concert to relieve the suffering of refugees...

36 bonz  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:50:40pm

Fortunately Muhammad Yunus, awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, was still collecting his prize out of the country

37 golem akbar  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:50:48pm
No arrests were made, and police refused to allow Choudhury to file charges against his attackers.

Well, what did you expect? I mean after all, it was the Jew-devil that made them riot. Choudhury was probably trying to find a cute lil' Muslim child's blood for his matzah brie. /

38 Cartman  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:51:54pm

#23

Do your research before going out on a limb. A noble cause on George's part, at the time. Islamists disdain our help. We're all tired of being spat upon for trying to do the right thing, time and time again. The well of good will is running dry.

39 honest scrutiny  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:55:48pm

#22 Tokyobk
Great, at least we have a heads up as what things will be like in the Islamic Republic of Southern Thailand of the next few decades.

the article linked calls it the "restive" south

restive
1. impatient of control, restraint, or delay, as persons; restless; uneasy.
2. refractory; stubborn.
3. refusing to go forward; balky: a restive horse.

the dictionary must've forgotten "prone to bombing" as a definition

40 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:56:53pm
#32 Jack Reacher

The mob beat Choudhury, leaving him with a fractured ankle, and looted cash that was kept in the company safe.

Mayhem and looting; two of Mohammed's favorite passtimes. Mo would be proud of his people.

You caught that, too, eh? Has there been any monotheistic religion based on such a sorry jerk?

41 jrdroll  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:57:15pm

Islam: political or religon?

42 mj  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:57:17pm
43 shutterbug  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:57:35pm

#33 - Well said.

"Choudhury is unique because he has not fled to the West, but continues to oppose militant Islamists from inside the Muslim world," [Dr. Richard] Benkin told the Post. "He feels that if he can defeat the radicals in their own back yard it will be a victory for peace and justice unlike any other thus far."

"More and more Muslims are looking at this case," Benkin said. "They want to see if Shoaib will get the support and protection he needs from the West. If he is victorious, other Muslims will try the same; if we allow him to go down, they will remain silent."

44 m  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:58:22pm

#26 hous bin pharteen

Whats next?

Muslim Eskimo mob attacks baby seal?
Oh wait. That the libs would give a shit about.

Or maybe their brains would melt.

I'll start making up the flyers... somebody get a quote from the printer.

45 jrdroll  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 4:58:34pm

Islam: The New Communism?

46 Stop Hillary  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:01:19pm

Think that the hag Susan Sarandon and her wimp spouse will be chattering on about a "chill wind"?

47 carridine  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:02:33pm

#22 TokyoBK: did you catch the bit where the Thai Muslims want to be just as good as the rest of us, so they demand special status?

48 EE  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:04:19pm

[Link: www.freechoudhury.com...]
A blog in defense of choudhury -- freechoudhury.com

49 EE  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:06:29pm

re #48

Muslim journalist Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury spent 17 months in a Dhaka prison for advocating REAL interfaith understanding and warning Bangladeshis about radical Islamists. Now, he faces physical attacks, and the government wants to put him on trial for his life.
50 jwbaumann  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:07:40pm

This is so sad. After reading about the Grameen Bank and the recent nobel peace prize for its founder, I briefly felt quite hopeful for the future of Bangladesh.

[Link: www.grameen-info.org...]

[Link: www.voanews.com...]

51 denbike  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:09:54pm

Mo****d was the "perfect man", he would have done the same thing.

52 EE  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:11:01pm

re #48, bio information concerning Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury:

Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury

Dhaka, Bangladesh

salahuddinshoaibchoudhury@yahoo.com


Current Positions

Editor and Publisher, Weekly Blitz, Dhaka, Bangladesh (English)

Chief Editor, Weekly Jamjamat, Dhaka, Bangladesh (Bangla)

Chief Editor, Daily Frontline, Dhaka, Bangladesh (English) (debuts Fall 2006)

Chairman, Blitz Publications Limited, Dhaka, Bangladesh

Chairman, Blitz Printers Limited, Dhaka, Bangladesh

Chairman, Vibgyor Entertainment Limited, Dhaka, Bangladesh

Chairman, Vibgyor Films Limited, Dhaka, Bangladesh

Chairman, Vibgyor Fashions Limited, Dhaka, Bangladesh


Professional History

1989-1993: Correspondent, Itar-Tass News Agency(Russia)

1993-1995: Chief Correspondent, Itar-Tass News Agency(Russia)

1995: Special Correspondent, The New Nation (English language, Dhaka)

1995: Translator (Bangla): The Rise and Fall of Pahlavi Dynasty by

(Iranian) General Hossain Fardoust; Iranian Embassy, Dhaka

1995-1999: Founder and Managing Director, A-21 TV , Bangladesh’s first private

television channel,

1999: Bangladesh government (Awami League) forcibly closed A-21 TV after

coverage of opposition news.

1999: Charged with sedition, imprisoned, and tortured. (October 10, 1999)

2001: Released from prison and all charges dropped.(January 10, 2001)

2001-2002: Special Correspondent, Daily Inqilab, Dhaka, Bangladesh (Bangla)

2002: Partial Owner, Managing Director, Inqilab Television

2002: Removed from office, shares seized after refusing to attend Inqilab

sponsored and organized pro-Saddam Hussain, anti-US rally in Dhaka.

2002: Founded Weekly Blitz (May 2002)

2003-2005: Charged with sedition, imprisoned, and tortured after writing articles

warning Bangladeshis of the rise of Islamists, urging Bangladesh to

recognize Israel, and advocating religious equality and interfaith dialogue;

and after attempting to travel to Israel. (November 29 2003 – April 30, 2005)


Selected Publications

Rise & Fall of Pahlavi Dynasty (Translator) Published by Gyanbitarani, Dhaka, 2001

Rudho Din Rudho Jibon, Published by Shamudra Prakashani, Dhaka, 2002

Dush Shopner Raat Din, (To be published in October 2006), Blitz Publications

Drishtir Mukti Akuti, (Book of poems), (To be published in October 2006), Blitz Publications

Shoda Mittha Kotha Bolibey, (To be published in October 2006), Blitz Publications


Memberships

Member, PEN USA

Member, IFLAC, Israel

Advisory Board Member, Islam-Israel Fellowship

Advisory Board Member Bangladesh Minority Lawyers Association

Secretary General, Bangladesh Editor’s Forum


Awards

Courageous Journalism Award 2005, Bangladesh Lokgeeti Shipi Goshthi

Freedom to Write Award 2005, PEN USA

Moral Courage Award 2006, American Jewish Committee

Courageous Journalism Award 2006, Bangladesh Minority Lawyer’s Association

53 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:11:07pm

This is what a real muslim martyr looks like. I hope that Mr. Choudury has sense enough to leave Bangladesh - and that some relatively safe haven has sense enough to let him in. Of course that begs the question of where some safe haven might actually be this side of Mars.

54 Jeff S.  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:15:26pm

OT & probably already posted, but...

There's an excellent - and lengthy - excerpt from Mark Steyn's new book, America Alone, in today's NY Post.

THE dragons are no longer on the edge of the map: That's the lesson of 9/11.

When you look at it that way, the biggest globalization success story of recent years is not McDonald's or Microsoft but Islamism. The Saudis took what was not so long ago a severe but peripheral strain of Islam - practiced by Bedouins in the middle of a desert miles from anywhere - and successfully exported it to Jakarta and Singapore and Alma-Ata and Grozny and Sarajevo and Lyons and Bergen and Manchester and Ottawa and Dearborn and Falls Church. It was a strictly local virus, but the bird flew the coop.

And now, instead of the quaintly parochial terrorist movements of yore, we have the first globalized insurgency.

55 Thanos  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:16:14pm

Re: Islamic Republic of South Thailand

What we want is to include everything," Nimu said. Muslims will have marital disputes, inheritance and crimes such as murder and robbery adjudicated in Sharia courts, he said. Nimu added that "the good thing about the Sharia court is that you don't need three levels, no appeals court, no supreme court. There's just one."

Gore would have liked that, he would have won in 2000.

I have to agree with Cartman, most muslim's will take charity but underneath when they do they are insulted, and angry with you for offering it, since it should be their family, their culture, their religion taking care of disaster. When you help them it's a blow to their overblown pride, so they hate you forever.

56 EE  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:16:18pm

re #48

BNP men attack BLITZ Editor

On Thursday, 5th October 2006, at around 1:00 pm., a mob of 35-40 people equipped with arms and weapons attacked the office of Weekly Blitz under the leadership of leaders of the Cultural Wing of the ruling party.

The attackers, led by Helal Khan, International Affairs Secretary of JASAS and Babul Ahmed, Secretary General of JASAS entered the Blitz office and started beating the editor and other staffs in the office. Helal Khan smashed the spectacle of the editor with punch and snatched his ‘Motorola’ mobile phone set. Then the mob started severe assault, while some of the members of the team, took away TK. 42,000 cash from the left pocket of the trouser of the editor while other members broke the vault of the company and looted TK. 350,000 cash. The attackers forced the editor to the staircase of the company and forced him to leave the office. More than 20 armed hooligans belonging to the same group were seen on the street as well. Right after the incident, the editor rushed to the Shahbagh Police Station and sought his assistance in lodging a formal case against the attackers, for physical assault and looting of properties. But, Office-in-Charge Rezaul denied lodging any complaint. He rather asked the editor to go back to his (editor’s) residence and see change the torn clothe and see the officer after few hours. But, meanwhile, the Commissioner of Police had come to know about the matter and instructed the Officer-in-charge of any nearby police station to rush to the spot. At this stage, OC, Paltan rushed to the spot and he called the Blitz editor’s cell phone with the request of going back to the Blitz office. After the editor was back, Babul Ahmed, leader of the cultural wing on BNP shouted saying, “You man, agent of Jews, how you are here. I read in the newspaper you were already convicted for life sentence.”

More interestingly, on 6th October 2006, at 2:14 pm, we received a phone call from a cell phone number 01711975453. The caller named Ruhul Amin told us that leaders of BNP’s Cultural Wing, Babul Ahmed has instructed the Blitz editor to meet him by. 3:30 pm. We told the caller that the editor is on complete bed rest because of yesterday’s assault. Then he asked us to send a written bond from the editor to Babul Ahmed and Helal Khan (both leaders of JASAS) saying that the Blitz editor will not make any complaint about yesterday’s incident to any court or departments in Bangladesh. The caller threatened of dire consequence by Friday night, if the letter was not made available within the given time. On behalf of Weekly Blitz, we are going to inform all the departments in the government and law enforcing agencies about this matter. Weekly Blitz appeals to its readers, patrons, well wishers and supporters to kindly send an immediate reaction on this incident to the nearest Bangladesh Embassy, demanding immediate arrest of the attackers and stern punishment under the law of the country. For further details on this incident, please contact Dr. Richard L. Benkin at + 1-847-9226426 or email him at drrbenkin@comcast.net

57 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:17:28pm

Bangladesh CIA fact book

Religions:
Muslim 83%, Hindu 16%, other 1% (1998)

Despite sustained domestic and international efforts to improve economic and demographic prospects, Bangladesh remains a poor, overpopulated, and inefficiently-governed nation. Although half of GDP is generated through the service sector, nearly two-thirds of Bangladeshis are employed in the agriculture sector, with rice as the single-most-important product. Major impediments to growth include frequent cyclones and floods, inefficient state-owned enterprises, inadequate port facilities, a rapidly growing labor force that cannot be absorbed by agriculture, delays in exploiting energy resources (natural gas), insufficient power supplies, and slow implementation of economic reforms. Reform is stalled in many instances by political infighting and corruption at all levels of government. Progress also has been blocked by opposition from the bureaucracy, public sector unions, and other vested interest groups. The BNP government, led by Prime Minister Khaleda ZIA, has the parliamentary strength to push through needed reforms, but the party's political will to do so has been lacking in key areas. One encouraging note: growth has been a steady 5% for the past several years.

Hmmm. This is interesting.

Labor force:
66.6 million
note: extensive export of labor to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Oman, Qatar, and Malaysia; workers' remittances estimated at $1.71 billion in 1998-99 (2005 est
That would explain alot of this behavior.

58 Jeff S.  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:24:05pm

Oh, and uh, hey Bangladesh....

IT IS MONSOOOOOOON!

59 Tokyobk  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:25:39pm

#47 Carridine

So it will be with the banlieu of Paris and Birmingham. First no pork and wine. Then loudspeakers calling prayer. Then special divorice courts. Then secession.

60 Dr. Manhattan  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:41:46pm

#54 Thanks! I'm a sucker for Styen.

61 easy  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:47:16pm

A few selected paragraphs from # 25 Tkoyo's Thailand link. The bold is mine (thread of the long comments) your opinions are yours.

"The attitude of the new government is certainly much more positive toward dealing with the south, not through the use of force but through having a dialogue, a discussion," said Mahathir bin Mohamad.....

"What we want is to include everything," Nimu said. Muslims will have marital disputes, inheritance and crimes such as murder and robbery adjudicated in Sharia courts, he said. Nimu added that "the good thing about the Sharia court is that you don't need three levels, no appeals court, no supreme court. There's just one."

Muslims have been given key positions in the new administration. One, Aree Wong-araya, is the interior minister and a proponent of the Sharia system, Wan Mahadee, was selected to serve in the country's new National Legislative Assembly, the de facto Parliament.

The notion that Muslims in southern Thailand are being showered with more attention as a consequence of terrorist bombings and killings leaves some analysts worried that the insurgents' violent campaign is being rewarded.

But for the people who live in the five southern provinces, this is an abstract point. There were nearly 49 violent incidents, including 22 killings, in the two weeks after the coup, double the number in the same period a month earlier, according to Panitan Wattanayagorn, associate professor at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok, who chaired a government committee on the southern problems during the 1990s.

The insurgents have shown little selectivity in choosing victims. The main goal seems to be spreading panic and terror. They have killed rubber tappers, teachers, police, soldiers, Buddhist monks, motorcycle mechanics and restaurant patrons. The victims are evenly divided between Buddhists and Muslims.

62 Tokyobk  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:48:21pm

I would still hope the west will send food to starving areas regardless of where.

We just need to make the "ten foot shelf" of Western Civ an absolute requirement. Ditto on American Government classes in grade and high school.

The Enlightenment did not happen by accident and we have to start educating ourselves and our children about how and why people arrived at the conclusion that all men and women were created with inalienable rights.

When the West realizes it is more worthy of defending than ever before, and take approriate actions to protect our institutions, we will perhaps be in a position to do the right thing without fear that our good intentions will harm us.

63 Tokyobk  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:53:45pm

#61 Easy

It never ceases to amaze me that writers in the Western press believe they write from some neutral cosmopolitan stance, not from a tradition that exists only within the free world.

Guess what Mr. international writer. Sharia does not make nicey nice with the kuffir or its civilization.

To draw the obvious conclusions, that any reader of LGF or Jihad Watch could draw, knowing a thing or two about the last 1,400 years, would lead to some scary thoughts about Europe. Thats not going to happen any time soon.

64 Render  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 5:58:13pm

So, does this mean that it would be a-ok for a mob to invade the offices of CAIR, beat Dougie, (even more), senseless, and rob CAIR of all that Saudi cash in their safes?

/,
R

65 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 6:01:06pm
#62 Tokyobk

I would still hope the west will send food to starving areas regardless of where.

Read somewhere a while back that all of the millions of dollars and aid that went to Aceh after the tsunami got distributed to muslims - and only muslims. The christians of the community were left out in the cold.

66 Ackomanyuki  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 6:02:45pm

They really seem to be on offence everywhere you look these days. They use every little slight they can as an excuse to push us all further towards universal dhimmitude. I ran across a recent report from Nigeria of a Christian teacher being prosecuted for blasphemy. The whole case against him is being generated from the fabricated accusations of a Muslim student he disciplined.


Breaking News - Monday October 16, 2006

NIGERIA: TEACHER ON TRIAL AFTER PUNISHING MUSLIM STUDENT

October 16 (Compass Direct News) – A Christian high school teacher at Government College in Keffi, in the northern state of Nasarawa, is on trial for blasphemy after he disciplined a Muslim student.
Joshua Lai is standing trial at a Magistrate Court 2 in the state capital of Lafia on charges of blasphemy against the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, and for “public incitement, rioting, and mischief.” Following the June 12 incident, Muslim students attacked Christian students and teachers and burned four houses, including Lai’s home.
Alerted by Christian students of a plan by Muslim students to kill him that night, the teacher fled his home. After the ensuing rampage, authorities detained Lai at the Keffi police station before he was remanded to prison custody for eight days on orders of Gov. Alhaji Abdullahi Adamu.
An English and history teacher at the school, Lai said he was teaching English when a Muslim student in the class, Abdullahi Yusuf, arrived as he was finishing the lesson.
“I asked him where he was coming from when the lesson was already over, and he claimed he was coming from the mosque,” Lai said. “I said he could not be speaking the truth, as the Muslim time for morning prayers was far gone.”
Lai told him that, as a former Muslim, he knew that Muslims pray between 5:30 a.m. and 6:00 a.m., and that Yusuf had arrived around 9 a.m.
Lai then punished Yusuf according to custom – caning, used in both elementary and high schools in Nigeria – and allowed him into the class.
“I told him that his reasons were not tenable,” Lai said, “and repeatedly told him that there was time for everything, a time to serve God and a time to be in the class – that this is how it should be, or else his parents wouldn’t have sent him to school.”
Later that afternoon, Lai said, he was working on his private property after school hours when a student came and told him that the principal, Musa Gwadabe, wanted to see him. Lai went immediately to the principal’s office, who told him a committee wanted to meet with him.
“I went into the office where the committee was sitting and I discovered they were all my colleagues, teachers in the school,” he said. “They asked me what transpired between me and the Muslim student in the morning, and I told them precisely what took place. They responded by saying that what I told them was exactly the same as what the student said, except on one point – that he said I will flog the prophet Muhammad.”

67 Tokyobk  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 6:12:56pm

#65 Granny

Probably true. I just hate the idea of anyone taking any of my sense of humanity away from me.

68 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 6:16:43pm

Choudhoury's Weekly Blitz web site has also apparently had nearly all of its content removed.

69 DockScience  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 6:21:05pm

Thank heavens the Bengalis are moderate moslems... imagine what would have happened if they were the "other" kind.

70 Banagor  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 6:23:36pm

Of course this editor was beaten.

What else do you do with somebody who doesn't want to marry a nine year old girl, who thinks Jews are okay, and who doesn't look at camels in a romantic fashion?

I mean...really. What do you expect?

It's a...cultural thing.

71 Aegius  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 6:24:18pm

In fact Azerbaijan, Turkey, Egypt and Jordan have relations with Israel.

Muslims need to cease obsessing over Israel and clean up their act. Obsessing over Israel has only hurt them and left them in stagnation while the rest of the world is leaving them behind. Just look at India, which is becoming an economic powerhouse from being in poverty and ruins 60 years ago. Even the African nations are improving themselves. Muslims need to cease playing the victim.

#66 Ackomanyuki

Hmmm... If he missed class, the he should be punished. Flogging may be excessive and perhaps abusive. If a complaint were made on against flogging, that's fine. But blasphemy? No wonder the guy converted from Islam to Christianity. Muslims are intolerant, inflexible and uptight.

72 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 6:30:21pm

That's what he gets for being a moderate muslim.

ROPMA!

73 Ackomanyuki  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 7:08:45pm

#71 Ageius

Believe it or not Nigeria is the second most populous English speaking country in the world. This and its use of physical punishment in its school system is a legacy of its British colonial past.

Hell, they beat my ass with a State regulated and specified paddle back in 1969 at Glen Feliz Elementary School in Los Angeles California of all places.

I think caning in the British Standard School tradition is among the least of Africa’s problems, it may even be beneficial in a society at their level of development. It sure taught me to never again shoot a spit wad into the ample cleavage of the Assistant Principal while she was standing duty as lunch monitor.

74 Flavia  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 7:59:47pm

#53 granny:

"This is what a real muslim martyr looks like. I hope that Mr. Choudury has sense enough to leave Bangladesh "

I too, fear for this heroic guy - but maybe he feels like Dr. King did over here. We're lucky our government wasn't corrupt enough to kill him, tho' someone was...

75 Aegius  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 8:34:26pm
73 Ackomanyuki

#71 Ageius

Believe it or not Nigeria is the second most populous English speaking country in the world. This and its use of physical punishment in its school system is a legacy of its British colonial past.

The British did a lot of good and a lot of bad with their world empire. They tried to eliminate slavery in Nigeria prior to leaving, but it didn't quite work out. There are 3 main indigenous languages in Nigeria and numerous smaller languages. With English as a second language atleast they can all communicate with each other. They are also attempting to build a new democracy over there after they got rid of Sani Ibachi(sp?), the prior dictator.


Hell, they beat my ass with a State regulated and specified paddle back in 1969 at Glen Feliz Elementary School in Los Angeles California of all places.

We adopted the British education tradition. There has been corporal punishment of children throughout American history. Most disciplinary books on children have actually advocated corporal punishment.


I think caning in the British Standard School tradition is among the least of Africa’s problems, it may even be beneficial in a society at their level of development. It sure taught me to never again shoot a spit wad into the ample cleavage of the Assistant Principal while she was standing duty as lunch monitor.

NO argument there. The biggest problem that Nigeria has is that a significant percentage of Muslims was an autonomous region under Sharia and has a wish to dominate over the Christians rather than seeing them as equals. Regarding what you punished for? Heck, I teepeed(threw toilet paper all over the place.) people's houses and a local McDonald's.

76 George guy  Tue, Oct 17, 2006 9:15:43pm

This act offends me.

Enough to do something so utterly horrible that many would consider it equivalent to waging a holocaust; that is, draw a cartoon.

77 Timbre  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 2:06:40am

Does anyone know where I can get my official "Agent of the Jews," or "Zionist Special Agent" credentials and decoder ring? I even go to the local synagogue on some of the important holydays and I contribute money to the ADL. Doesn't that qualify me?!?

78 Endangered in Mass  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 4:02:38am

I hope no one has made any judgmental comments on this thread. I mean just because because a group of people acts out violently for the millionth time, that's no reason to pin a label on them.

79 American Jewess in Jerusalem  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 4:04:33am

Is there no way we can get him out of there?

80 Endangered in Mass  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 4:05:19am

#77 Timbre

You get one after you have harvested the eyes from 10 muslim children.

81 Ackomanyuki  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 4:19:24am

#75 Aegius

Amazing how apprised of the facts of matters we Lizards are. I sure wish everyone else would catch up....post haste!

82 Ackomanyuki  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 4:20:50am

But the again, the facts don't always matter to those who's agendas are driven by fear and hate.

83 sss111  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 4:21:47am

TO any Muslim reading this:

Allah will punish you severely for your sins, and the Jews you have harmed will be Allah's helpers.

84 sss111  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 4:24:33am

#77 Timbre 10/18/2006 04:06AM PDT

Does anyone know where I can get my official "Agent of the Jews," or "Zionist Special Agent" credentials and decoder ring? I even go to the local synagogue on some of the important holydays and I contribute money to the ADL. Doesn't that qualify me?!?

As Senior Member, International Committee of the Elders of Zion, and Executive Vice President, World Domination Subcommittee, I may be able to help.

85 sss111  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 4:37:48am

OT

The latest apologism from people who should know better:

Islamic lesson for Christians: Real sacrifice

Phila. Inquirer, Wed, Oct. 18, 2006


Jon Pahl, jpahl@ltsp.edu, professor of the history of Christianity in North America at the Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia, and a fellow in the Center for the Study of Religion at Princeton University.

[Link: www.philly.com...]

I've let Mr. Pahl know my thoughts on the matter about what Islam can teach Christianity.

86 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 4:38:33am

This sort of thing is why Ayaan Ali Hirsi was so amazed when she first came to a Western country. In Muslim lands, the government comes and does things like that. In the West, the government comes and takes away your garbage.

87 sss111  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 4:39:31am

#85

From that article, Mr. Pahl asks:

How can such a beautiful practice as Iftar, which is truly at the core of Muslim piety, not be enough, more than enough, to dispel stereotypes associating Islam with "violence"? Why do so many of my Christian brothers and sisters continue to fixate on the speck of "Islamic" terrorism, conveniently ignoring the very large log of American "Christian" weapons of mass destruction and military adventurism?

88 syncrodude  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 5:15:17am

See, This is why 99.999% of all the so called moderate muslims never speak a word against the "radical" islamonuts. If they do, this is the result. And this is why the argument that most muslims are not the violent jihad type fails. The violent jihad types have fear grip on the moderates so tight that they will always remain passive and silent in the face of terrorisim from their radical counterparts

89 rnoy  Wed, Oct 18, 2006 6:18:47am

I am not surprised.

90 EE  Thu, Oct 19, 2006 2:51:04pm

US slams trial of Bangladeshi editor
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

91 EE  Thu, Oct 19, 2006 2:54:08pm

re #90

US slams trial of Bangladeshi editor
By MICHAEL FREUND

The United States has denounced the Bangladeshi government's decision to try a moderate Muslim editor for advocating ties with Israel, saying he is "clearly a victim" of "Bangladesh's dysfunctional legal and judicial systems."

As The Jerusalem Post first reported last month, Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury, editor of the Weekly Blitz newspaper, an English-language publication based in the Bangladeshi capital of Dhaka, faces multiple counts of espionage and sedition in connection with his articles critical of Islamic extremism and favorable to Israel. If convicted, he could be sentenced to death.

Choudhury was arraigned in a Dhaka court on October 12, and prosecutors will begin calling witnesses against him when the hearings reconvene on November 13. Although Choudhury's lawyer will be permitted to cross-examine the prosecution witnesses, he will not be able to call any of his own to testify in Choudhury's defense.

"Like thousands of Bangladeshis every year, Mr. Choudhury is clearly a victim of Bangladesh's dysfunctional legal and judicial systems," Gregg Sullivan, a spokesman for the State Department, told the Post. "He was held without bail for 15 months and the sedition case against him appears to lack a strong legal basis."

Sullivan said the US Embassy in Dhaka had sent an observer to attend Choudhury's trial. "We intend to continue following the case of Mr. Choudhury, and have made that clear to Bangladeshi authorities," he added.

Sullivan said Choudhury is "the only Bangladeshi journalist who has been formally charged with sedition in recent years," even though other Bangladeshis have voiced similar sentiments regarding the rise of Islamic fundamentalism in their country.

As the Post reported exclusively on Wednesday, Choudhury was recently attacked and beaten in his office by a crowd of some 40 people that included senior members of Bangladesh's ruling party.

On October 5, a mob stormed the premises of Choudhury's newspaper and beat him, fracturing his ankle. They also looted cash that was kept in the company safe. No arrests were made, and Bangladeshi police refused to allow Choudhury to file charges against his attackers.

Asked to comment on the incident, Sullivan said there were
indications that it was related to a "property dispute" rather than the sedition charges pending against Choudhury.

"We have made clear to Bangladeshi officials our interests in Mr. Choudhury's case and have urged the Bangladeshi government to ensure that individuals like Mr. Choudhury are granted full rights and due process in accordance with Bangladeshi law," he said.

Choudhury's troubles date back to November 2003, when he was arrested at Dhaka's international airport as he was preparing to board a flight to travel to Israel, where he was due to deliver a speech on promoting mutual understanding between Muslims and Jews. His visit to Israel would have been the first by a Bangladeshi journalist. Bangladesh does not recognize Israel's existence.

After being held in prison for 17 months, where he was reportedly tortured, Choudhury was released in April 2005.

But authorities in Bangladesh, which is ruled by a coalition government that includes Islamic extremists, decided to pursue charges against him.

Spearheaded by American human-rights activist Dr. Richard Benkin, a number of international organizations have called for Choudhury's release.


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