#1

Sickening, nothing else to say.

Sickening....

Damn frogs.....should have suspected it though....still a disappointment.

Faux is a French word afterall..

Just posted on the other thread - anyone know if this guy has a defense fund for his appeal?

Will Paris be the capital of Eurabia?

OT [but is it ever really OT?]

Champion Iranian Woman Driver Banned from Racing

The Guardian is reporting that Laleh Seddigh, an Iranian car racing champion, has suddenly been banned from racing. Because? You guessed it: the gender thing.

Just goest to show that the truth doesn't really matter,

it's what people want to believe so they can justify their heinous actions.

When there is Justice there are no tribunals.

Lao Tse

anybody have the link which scientifically showed that the boy was shot by Palis?

Of course, idiotarians will now cite this decision as proving that the IDF killed al-Dura, which of course is specious and false.

“...The French justice system has validated a false report,” he told reporters after the decision. “We are going to appeal straight away. It is a very surprising judgment.”

Agree with the first part. The al-Dura incident is one of the biggest pieces of Pali agitprop ever unleashed by the media. I do, not, however, see this as a surprising verdict. The French government has long been complicit in covering up Palestinian malfeasance. Why should the judicial system be any different?

I said it years ago and I'll say it again. France is collapsing into an Islamofascist state. France's Jewish population should begin the process of selling all their non-moveable property while they still can (i.e., before it gets seized by Islamofascist "authorities") and moving out of France. And America should open its doors to the honorable, productive, and hard-working Jewish refugees from France. Millions of Jews could have been saved if they had left Germany soon enough, but they couldn't bring themselves to believe that they were truly in trouble there. The time has come for Jews to leave France.

#10 shug

Google pallywood and see what comes up.

Decide for yourself.

I am sure the North Africans of the Paris suburbs are happy with this decision

How many car-fire free hours will this generate?

Over and under at Bally's Las Vegas is 7 hours

"...It is a very surprising judgment.”

No, it is not surprising in the least.

14 budfox

I've already decided.
I remember reading a link where shooter angles, etc scientifically showed the boy could NOT have been fired upon by the IDF.
I'd like to read it again

So anyone who dares to contradict the lies published in the Heirloom Media can now be sued for libel? Appalling!

"Two senior French journalists given access to the footage as part of an investigation into the affair later said that the film did not show that Israeli troops had killed the boy or even that he had died at all.

But they also said there was no evidence to suggest deliberate staging or manipulation."

So the manipulation was accidental? Really?

"It is a very surprising judgment." No. It's not at all surprising.

10 shug

go here..

Some things just boggle the mind, and this judge must think he/she is "enlightened"

Can't say I'm shocked.

I really should go into the prediction business.

So that means the only people allowed to lie are the MSM and politicians? Go figure.....

20 no submission

thanks

This sort of thing has been going on for a long time. To quote Mark Twain:

"To my mind, this is irregular. It is un-English; it is un-American; it is French."

I guess now we know the price of having the audacity to suggest that the Palis manipulate the media.

4,002 euros.

I actually like the way the French legal system works in that you're subject to paying fines and legal fees for bringing about frivolous, inane lawsuits (McDonald's hot coffee, etc), but in this case that's one hell of a deterrant against anyone bringing this sort of thing to the courts again....

#13 My 2 Cents

France's Jewish population should begin the process of selling all their non-moveable property while they still can (i.e., before it gets seized by Islamofascist "authorities") and moving out of France.

They already have started doing this......

10 shug

try here

From The Second Draft

The Birth of an Icon
This documentary, a continuation of the earlier Pallywood, examines the circumstances surrounding the shooting of the explosive footage about Muhamed al Durah and his father Jamal at Netzarim Junction, September 30, 2000.

Nothing could make clearer the EU's motives behind the TWF initiative to control website content.

This relates to the previous NFL Stadium threat. I am an Eagles season ticket holder and in the seats next to us at the game vs the giants week 2, two fuzzy beard extremeist looking types were next to us with binoculars and cell phones. security I hope was watching. I said something to the head of security on our level, all my friends said I was being paranoid. I don't think so.

#4 NoSubmission

Faux is a French word afterall..

LOL!

In France it's not the truth that matters, it's what they want the truth to be.

France is hopeless.

Attempt the tiniest bit of market reform and the masses fill the streets in protest, shutting down Paris. They keep doing so until their political class, despite the fact that the reforms are desperately needed, cave.

But "youth" riots, inceasing attacks on their police force (by those selfsame "youths"), and flat-out outrageous deception on the part of their public medida apparently don't raise an eyebrow.

No one from France2 showed up. Its solitary lawyer had no witnesses, no questions for Karsenty's witnesses, and no comments about the evidence damning her clients. Her summation insisted on France2's honor and reputation, offered a letter of praise from President Jacques Chirac, and cast aspersions on the defense's witnesses.

Then the procureur de la republique (a court-appointed officer charged with assessing the case in the interests of civil society) gave her nonbinding opinion. She rebuked France2 for not addressing the evidence, for not showing their raw footage, and for not even showing up in court. She further admitted that, although Karsenty had impugned Enderlin's and France2's reputations, he had offered enough evidence to make such assertions a legitimate part of public discourse.

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

It's a Faux World after all..
it's a
Faux,
Faux
World!

#30 Mule:

Hi from one Eagles season ticket holder to another. Your vigilance is appreciated.

30 Mule. Security will watch while they take pics and plan right under their noses. Because it would be "racist" and damaging to those fellows' "civil rights" to ask what they were discussing or photographing with those cell phones.

Can Philippe Karsenty sue the government of France? In an Israeli court?

"The truth? We can't handle the truth!"^{indifferent movies providing lasting tag lines}

Ralph Peters

Politically correct war

oui? NON!

Liberte Egalite Fraternite

"The French justice system has validated a false report"

Maybe the Israeli justice system should weigh in...oh that's right they _are _actually *doing* something about murderers, unlike the French.

How are those cops faring, mes ami?

#34 danking70

No one from France2 showed up. Its solitary lawyer had no witnesses, no questions for Karsenty's witnesses, and no comments about the evidence damning her clients. Her summation insisted on France2's honor and reputation, offered a letter of praise from President Jacques Chirac, and cast aspersions on the defense's witnesses.

Isn't this just a prime example of True Justice!

France will be France.

#13 2 cents

After Bush/Rice personal commitment to a new Arab Terrorist state instead of Israel, Jews can be safe only on the Moon, if anywhere.

That goes for Christians and Hindus and Buddists.

#40
The NY Post and many others miss the point that if we call it a religous war then that will escalate our enemies recruiting efforts and widen the conflict to proportions that some people just don't want to see... not everyone is utterly welcoming of starting arma-frikkin-geddon...

It is both sickening and scary that this happened. When a civil court denies the truth, all people are in trouble. War is coming and that is a sad fact! Just wish I was young enough to enlist all over again!

Capt. Alfred Dreyfus was found guilty by the French as well.
Different times, same Jew-hatred.

This sums it up for me.

#36 world B.
I should have asked if one of them can play Strong Safety. Seriously- there is no way they were there for the game. when everyone started staring they were trying to cheer, but at weird inaproppriate times.

#46 anotherindyfilmguy

Bullshit.
They already know and believe it is a religious war
and they openly call it religious war
with no hesistation.
Their recruiting is already based in that.

It is the secular west that can't wrap their mouths around the dreaded phrase.

It would make a difference. But not the difference you fear.
The truth coming from a western leader's mouth would scare the shit out of them.

/you may not be interested in religious war but you better bet your secular ass religious war is interested in you.....

#48 mj
see 44, jinx.

#42.

In Israel they are mostly busy preparing new posgrom of Jews, like in Amona.

They promised Rice to remove illegal Jews from Judea. They need to pay for all support they are getting, not that Olmert/Peretz/Livni do not want that themseves, but that is a convinient excuse to finally achieve some military victory.

It is easier to fight Jews, that in principle do not fight against IDF, that Hizb'Allah or Hamas or Fatah or Al-Qaeda. Only our State Department can find difference between these terrorists gangs.

52 BabbaZee

Great minds think alike!
Sorry, didn't know you had already made the connection.

finallyhere

They promised Rice to remove illegal Jews from Judea

I'm sure you agree, but there are no illegal Jews in Judea.

#40 Great article by Peters. It should be tattooed on the forehead of every senior officer in the US military, not to mention every elected official.

The reason everyone is so conflicted, by the way, is the fact that a political movement cum death cult (Islam) has cleverly disguised itself as a religion. Thus, since religious freedom was in fact the prime founding principle of our nation, our leaders are wired to keep protecting its right to co-exist with other legitimate religions.

I have therefore argued previously that the proper defense and antidote to this con game is simply to de-certify it as a religion. We should create a series of conditions (much like the IRS already does) to define what is and is not a religion.

Once stripped of its bogus claim to being a legitimate religion, both law-enforcement (using the RICO act) and the military can deal openly with the threat.

THX-42

I agree.

And don't think it doesn't have a detrimental effect on fighting the war.

This kind of crap has been used against Israel for years.

So much so that the IDF's rules of engagement are more limited than those of the NYPD.

Meaning, "shoot only when shot at, etc," whereas in NYC if a policeman sees what he thinks is a gun in someone's hand (or a wallet) he can take him out.

This is happening to the US Military also.

They need to be reminded:

This is WAH!

To be more explicit about my suggestion of the need to de-certify Islam as a legitimate religion, or who think it fanciful and not possible, allow me to point out what I consider to be the sine qua non condition for a legitimate religion: it may not have as one of its commandments the murder or violent conversion of non-believers. This condition makes it an overt death cult.

Islam has this "poison pill". Ergo, it's not a legitimate religion.

#54 mj
;~p
No reason to be sorry
It can't be repeated enough IMO

#51 Babbazee

"The truth coming from a western leader's mouth would scare the shit out of them.

/you may not be interested in religious war but you better bet your secular ass religious war is interested in you....."

And the truth shall set us free.

I know I shouldn't be surprised, but I am.

:(

F*ck France. Seriously.

#60 Daisy
Amen!

Considering that the "raw" footage in question remains locked in the TV station's safe, and in view of the trial judge's summation, it is obvoius that the fix was in. Must not upset the Muslims, after all. They might to something violent, like burn cars or attack the police.

Europe Knows No Evil

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

Careful Charles, you sound like you are insulting them... It might cost you a Euro...

I insulted them today as well, and have already mailed them the $1.25.

#51 BabbaZee 10/19/2006 08:32AM PDT
#46 anotherindyfilmguy

Bullshit.
They already know and believe it is a religious war
and they openly call it religious war
with no hesistation.
Their recruiting is already based in that.

It is the secular west that can't wrap their mouths

You're stereotyping that everyone else in the world buys into the islamofascistic viewpoint. Currently we have a *secular* country fighting against fanatics who call it a religious war on their side of the propoganda. Oddly enough the only thing going for our own media is that has not yet bought into espousing every five minutes that part of the nutjobs recruiting propoganda and espoused this war as Christian versus Islamic yet...

As for wanting the end of the world-IMO it's selfish to want it to come. If you really believe in the end times and were selfless you'd want the end times delayed to save as many as possible not have it hurry up so you can scoot of to eternity.

I insulted them today as well, and have already mailed them the $1.25.

The Fwench 'military' can try to collect mine.

(I hope I have time to stock up on food for 200K prisoners of war)

So, after all of the court testimony, we have the French version of the OJ trial - where the judicial system isn't really based on law and evidence, but on how the elite think it needs / should be.

A more accurate headline:

France Surrenders to Palestinian Fraud

Why should anybody be in the slightest bit surprised? Did anyone seriously imagine that the French 'justice' system might actually stand up for justice? Or journalistic accuracy? Or fairness towards Israel?

No chance! It is the same throughout most of Europe. There is nothing the so-called judges like better than a spot of Jew bashing, and in this respect they are exactly like the MSM.

#48 mj 10/19/2006 08:30AM PDT

Capt. Alfred Dreyfus was found guilty by the French as well.
Different times, same Jew-hatred.

mj, the Twain quote in my post #25 was an allusion to the Dreyfus Affair. In the Wikipedia article on the Dreyfus affair, it was mentioned that the factions that formed in the wake of the scandal persisted for many years and "The right-wing Vichy Regime was composed to some extent of old anti-Dreyfusards and their descendants." The Vichy regime sent Dreyfus's granddaughter to the extermination camps.

Old habits die hard.

Even French TV's piss themselves.

#65 indyfilmguy:
"Currently we have a *secular* country fighting against fanatics who call it a religious war on their side of the propoganda. Oddly enough the only thing going for our own media is that has not yet bought into espousing every five minutes that part of the nutjobs recruiting propoganda and espoused this war as Christian versus Islamic yet..."
=================================
So the Koranic mandate to wage jihad on all infidels is merely propaganda and a recruiting technique ?
The so called 'fanatics' and 'radicals' aren't actually waging a religious war...it's really just propaganda.

They call it a religious war...but you know better than they do why they're waging jihad. It's really about propaganda and recruitment...has nothing to do with Islam.
Even if they say a million times that their jihad is ordained by Mo, the Koran and Allah.

And until the media says differently, this isn't a religious war and Islam is the Religion of Peace. And of course the media denial that this is in fact a religious war is a good thing.

Truly Orwellian.

#65 anotherindyfilmguy

Your assumptions are showing.

You have no idea what my premise of life or belief system is.

you

are stereotyping

me

and your answer is not an answer.

"buying into the Islamofascist viewpoint"
is not necessary.

RECOGNIZING what it is and what motivates their fight is.

"Root Causes" are abundant.

No one wants to face them.

Which is why I made the statement I made.

ex: Did you have to "buy into the Nazi viewpoint" to understand and accept what was motivating Nazis, and take the appropriate action?

BabbaZee (#74) There you are!
/goes back to workin-n-lurkin
{Hottentot}

Don't worry Babba, when the [bigoted word]s wage jihad and murder infidels all around the globe, they're not doing it in the name of Islam...it's really all propaganda and a recruiting technique.

It's not a religious war until the media says so.

Yo, Chief LongName {idigscotch&scotchburiesme}

Muck De F

It is a very surprising judgment.

Disturbing, yes. Surprising, no.

France is currently in the process of receiving their just desserts.

This is the Dreyfus affair all over again!

/you may not be interested in religious war but you better bet your secular ass religious war is interested in you.....

You have no idea what my premise of life or belief system is.

you

are stereotyping

me

As far assuming about peoples views go that's kettle calling the pot black.

Perhaps this will illustrate what I'm trying to say vis-a-vis;
When the *average* Muslim listens to the propoganda put out by the extremists among them, they are most likely very much like the *average* person who hears {insert your favorite clergy on tv} and roll's their eyes and says "so and so says the end of the world is next week" and then goes on about their lives without getting involved in any of it. If our media came out and made legit the Jihadi's claims about this being the "big crusade against Islam" etc then we would get a whole bunch more people who are otherwise not invloved to stand up and take action for the other side.

I'm not trying to say "it's not X because our media calls it Y", which i agree is Orwellian and common enough these days it seems, what I'm trying to say is that the viewpoint of the other side need not be affirmed by us giving them that.

Cheese-eating, bootlicking, brownnosing, surrender monkeys.

What kind of case can win in court without ever submitting any evidence or calling any witnesses.

The fix was clearly in.

And these guys are threatening to shoot down an Israeli plane?

Do they have any idea what they are up against?

#82 anotherindy

"When the *average* Muslim listens to the propoganda put out by the extremists among them, they are most likely very much like the *average* person who hears {insert your favorite clergy on tv} ..."

You make a serious mistake when you attempt to 'insert' your 'favorite clergy on tv' in place of your local imam as though the 2 are interchangeable. They are not interchangeable. I am not going to use my time to educate or convince you in any way whatsoever. However, if you would like to see/hear what the average Muslim imams have to say, go here: [Link: www.memri.org...]

After you get your moral compass properly aligned with reality (and only then) come back here and we can have a proper discussion.

My moral compass is fine thank you very much.

Appeal is definitely in order. This was a fake video, as a simple review of the tape reveals. Fight on!

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