Father of two Gary John Mathewson, who was arrested for displaying the banner, told a court: “This won’t stop until there is a Muslim president in the White House.”

Hell, it won't even stop then.

It's official.

The British gov't has completely bent over, grabbing ankles, declining K-Y.

Very sad.

This is exactly what we can expect should so-called "hate-crime laws" become more common here. Remember, only ethnic minorities can be victims of hate crimes, no matter how much they hate (or try to kill) everyone in the majority.

One law for Mohammedans, one law for Kafirs.

Why didn't they buy a banner ad on the Daily KOS?

A shame that the nation that produced nelson and montgomery has become such craven cowards, are there any left over there who will stand up, better to die on your feet than live on your knees

That army officer sounds like a jerk off.

Britain appears to be a lost cause.

One of his neighbours, a retired Army officer with 23 years service, told the court he reported the matter to the police because he feared a visit from Muslim extremists. ...

you

frikkin

pussy.

Will London be the capital of Eurabia?

#6 DIAMONDMASC 10/19/2006 08:35AM PDT
A shame that the nation that produced nelson and montgomery has become such craven cowards, are there any left over there who will stand up, better to die on your feet than live on your knees

you should include Churchill...

I'd say it's high time for some glassification pacification.

BRING ON WORLD WAR IV, [bigoted word]S.

I dare ya.

Somebody please tell me we aren't doomed, because right now I'm feeling like maybe we are.

i bet no one holding a "behead those wco insult islam" sign was ever arrested.
Last i checked getting beheaded may cause distress.

I used to admire the Brits...Winston Churchill, Inspector Morse. Now they're just pathetic. The Few have become the nothing. It's sad.

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told a court: “This won’t stop until there is a Muslim president in the White House.”

That's exactly what the invaders want.

At this pace, it will take two or three generations.

Unless we wake up, that is.

Maybe if non-Muslims were to start chopping people's heads off on videotape, a level playing field would be re-established.

#10 hazmat

Will London be the capital of Eurabia?

Isn't it already? Eurabia is the present, not the future.

It's illegal to 'cause distress' now?

TO: Charles Johnson, et al
RE: Amazing!

That there is such a crime as 'causing distress'.

Merry old England is jolly well going to hell.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Every people get the governance they deserve.]

Fortunately for US, we get to watch and learn from their mistakes.

I just can't believe people keep caving into fear regarding these animals.

They are COWARDS who can't and WON'T go face-to-face, mano a mano. They are chicken-shit weasels who have to resort to victimhood and scare tactics because they aren't men enough to duke it out for real.

/bleccch

#13 Chicken Kiev
All but a remnant are doomed, sorry.
Go for being a Remnantian, ;~p

#12 doug

Looks like you had a naughty word replaced there.

Boy, thank goodness we have a First Amendment.

Although george Will had an interesting editorial in last week's News-weak, about two conservative Seattle radio hosts that the libs are trying to squelch using the McCain-Feingold campaign laws. Basically, saying they are a political campaign, and their radio show air time should be charged at the same rate the station uses for commericials.

I wonder if the person carrying the "Behead those who insult Islam" sign was arrested. You know, since they were advocating lopping off someone's head for a freaking cartoon, instead of killing those who threaten our way of life.

Actually, I don't wonder.

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because he feared a visit from Muslim extremists

And that's why you have been disarmed. To make you behave like a slave of the muslim overlords.

(Disarm America, disarm the People, vote democrat)

Dear Great Britain,
We're not going to come save your butts this time. I mean it. You're on your own. If you had the guts to stand up to the muslims the way you did to the Nazis we'd be right there, but if you're going to be all French about it you can just go ahead and join the caliphate.

Sincerely,
The Good Ol' USofA

#24 Ed

Boy, thank goodness we have a First Amendment.

Boy, thank Goodness we have a Second Amendment. To defend the First.

ooh, ooh! i wants to be a rippie remnitian, too! =)

And the dude who wore the "Behead Those Who Insult Islam" sign? Did that anyone distress?

Oh I see, infidels are no longer capable of feeling distress in the UK, only guilt and suicidal self-loathing.

9 BabbaZee

my thoughts exactly, to the word.

grow a pair fella.

Bryan Cork, 49, of Carlisle, Cumbria, in the Lake District, was sentenced to six months in jail for standing outside a mosque shouting, “Proud to be British,” and “Go back to where you came from.” One British court ruled that even use of the word “immigrant” as an insult could amount to proof of racial hostility.

In 2006, the British government sent new instructions to all police forces stating that burglars would be allowed to escape only with a caution. The same went for criminals responsible for more than 60 other different offences, ranging from arson to sex with underage girls. Serial shoplifters should never be sent to prison. This meant that 13,000 fewer criminals each year would be sent to prisons at a time when jail overcrowding had reached crisis point.

Richard Dodd of the British Retail Consortium said: "We are disgusted at the suggestion that shoplifters should not face the possibility of going to jail. It is like offering a licence to people to go into stores and take things without paying."

Theodore Dalrymple writes about a book entitled A Land Fit for Criminals, written by David Fraser, who has served as a probation officer for more than a quarter of a century. According to Dalrymple,

“For the last 40 years, government policy in Britain, de facto if not always de jure, has been to render the British population virtually defenseless against criminals and criminality. Almost alone of British government policies, this one has been supremely effective: no Briton nowadays goes many hours without wondering how to avoid being victimized by a criminal intent on theft, burglary, or violence. (…) As Fraser pointed out to me, the failure of the state to protect the lives and property of its citizens, and to take seriously its duty in this regard, creates a politically dangerous situation, for it puts the very legitimacy of the state itself at risk. The potential consequences are incalculable, for the failure might bring the rule of law itself into disrepute and give an opportunity to the brutal and the authoritarian.”

Tory MP Rob Wilson warned that large numbers of illegal immigrants were making British streets unsafe: "What we have now is a situation where evil criminals who should not be in the country, let alone our city, are involved in firearms, class A drugs, human trafficking; all the most sinister crimes you can think of.”

British police decided not to take action against a Muslim figure who said in a television interview that anyone who insulted the Islamic faith would be killed. However, in October 2006, the 14-year-old schoolgirl Codie Stott was arrested by the police for racism after refusing to sit with a group of immigrant students because some of them did not speak English.

A teacher had allocated her a group to sit with on a school project that they should “discuss.” Only one of the five could speak English, and when they began talking in a language she didn't understand, thought to be Urdu, so she went to the teacher and said: "I'm not being funny, but can I change groups because I can't understand them?” The teacher then started screaming, saying 'It's racist, you're going to get done by the police'."

More than a week after the incident, she was taken to Swinton police station and had her fingerprints and photograph taken. After questioning on suspicion of committing a section five racial public order offence, her mother Nicola said she was placed in a bare cell for three-and-a-half hours then released without charge.

When the case came before District Judge Jonathan Finestein he said the decision to prosecute showed "how stupid the whole system is getting." Robert Whelan, deputy director of the Civitas think-tank, said: "A lot of these arrests don't result in prosecutions - they aim is to frighten us into self-censorship until we watch everything we say."

Welcome to Britain, the country where real crimes go unpunished while thought crimes gets you in jail. Not that Western Europe elsewhere is much better.

Well I blame NOW, they now have the type of men they fought so hard to get and the type of women they want also.
/embrace your metrosexuality

bravo, #27!

("be all french about it" heh)

"Distress" may or may not be the tripwire condition for prosecution in the UK, but I would guess that "Incitement to murder" is such a condition invoking legal action. I don't suppose we permit that here in the US either, even in otherwise laudable situations of attempting to shout out against IslamoNazis.

So, the smart but still self-respecting thing to do would be to change the phrasing in such a banner, from "Kill all" to "Death to all". It's not hair-splitting to distinguish between wishing the demise of someone/group and explicitly inciting to murder.

With any luck, any of Mathewson's neighbors (or neighbours, other than the army retiree) who have a pair should be free to string up just such a banner--and I hope they do so pronto.

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The defendant was given a conditional discharge for two years and ordered to pay £150 costs.

But I am sure we will remember the guy.
Gary John Mathewson, defender of the Truth.
Veritatis Defensor .

#28 Poiters

Boy, thank Goodness we have a Second Amendment. To defend the First.

Speaker Pelosi will correct that 200 year old mistake.

#29 blue_like_jazz
Long Live the Rippie Remnantians!

#31 Boot Hill
...and I toned it down, LOL

semi OT: Hubbub over hijab history...
Tried for linking headscarf to sex

An eminent 92-year-old Turkish archeologist is to go on trial for inciting religious hatred because she angered Islamist circles with a scientific paper saying the use of headscarves by women dated back to pre-Islamic sexual rites.
...

In a book published last year, Cig says the headscarf - a controversial issue in Turkey - was first worn by Sumerian priestesses initiating young people into sex, but without prostituting themselves.

A lawyer from the western city of Izmir took offence and filed a complaint against Cig, resulting in a prosecutor charging both her and her publisher with "inciting hatred based on religious differences". If convicted, the two face up to three years in jail.

TO: Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades
RE: Yeah?

"Boy, thank goodness we have a First Amendment." -- Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

Don't count on THAT.

Remember the "Free Speech Zone" at the 2004 National [misnamed] Democratic Convention in Boston?

Consider, also, that in unincorporated Arapahoe County, Colorado, it is against the law to protest directly outside the house of an abortionist. Even if you ARE in the public right-of-way.

Not to forget that you cannot protest abortion in front of an abortion mill.

All such 'laws' are predicated upon the earlier law that it is illegal to advertise for a political candidate within a certain distance of an election polling place.

As some wag put it, bad laws are seldom repealed. Rather, they are amended and expanded.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Bill of Rights, void where prohibited by law.]

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prosecutor Maggie Hughes pointed out that the banner did not mention extremists Mathewson said: “That’s what I meant by those who threaten us and our way of life.’”

Eh eh.
Maggie the dhimmi and Mathewson the Man of Truth.

The words in bold red paint stated: "Kill all Muslims who threaten us and our way of life. Enoch Powell was right."

Enoch Powell is still remembered for his 1968 speech warning against inappropriate immigration.

Like the Roman, I seem to see “the River Tiber foaming with much blood”.

The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils.

(The often misquoted "foaming with blood" line is a reference to Virgil.)

#42 brenda

thanks for that link. what a visionary... every member of congress needs to get a copy of that in hand.

Link- re my #24 and the Demonratic threat to free speech

Blood...pressure...peaking...

Well, I'm deeply distressed by magistrate Anne Rees' asshatted ruling.

Where's my £150?

#42 Brenda

Thank you for the link.
Impressive.
No doubt, in 1968 I would have called the speaker a lot of names, none good.
But he was right and I was wrong.
Like many Westerners, I must say

MEA CULPA

Just finished reading Michelle Phillips' chilling "Londonistan." This isn't surprising in the least. If Britain is to survive it will be up to the people, and before they can even begin to fight back they must first rid themselves of their appeasing leadership and their judges. Britain's only hope is a revolution that will toss off its oppressive and dhimmified rulers.

an Aberporth man, who painted an anti-Muslim slogan on a white sheet and draped it over his garden fence.

Well I think we've found the next Prime Minister. That settles it for me.

Not a peep about this on the national news in the UK. However, I think I can promise you all a signicant email chain.

PS: Here's one for BabbaZee

Never in the field of human conflict was so much squandered by so few

I have a collection of Winston Churchill's speaches. Sir Winston has to be rolling in his grave at the current state of affairs in England.

Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo Islam and all the odious apparatus of Nazi Muslum rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, France is lost we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.

God help Britan, if a retired Army officer turns in his neighbor, they are lost.

England ~!

Cause this distress.
You have some of the islamic traitors in custody, use them.

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk:80...]

You will be safer.

The defendant's case probably wasn't helped much by the Hobbit Shire uprisings in Glasgow;

Imam attacked in Glasgow mosque

A GLASGOW imam has been attacked in his mosque by a white man in an incident police believe was racially motivated.

Mohammed Shamsuddin was treated at the city's Western Infirmary after he was punched and kicked by an attacker, who also hit the 53-year-old using a chair and a safe deposit box.
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The incident comes after a suspected fire-raising attack more than a week ago on a mosque in Falkirk that caused £10,000 worth of damage.

The Times(UK) reports;

Muslim leaders have accused ministers of “stigmatising an entire community” and launching a “relentless barrage” against Islamic Britons.

#47 poitiers-lepanto

The speech ended Powell's political career. He was fired from his position as shadow defense spokesman for speaking more truth than pols were ready to hear.

It's nice to know that he hasn't been entirely forgotten by the British people.

Thinking about 7/7

Adding that during the protest in London a Muslim was dressed as a suicide bomber he asked: “Why was he not arrested?”

Because he is a poor oppressed muzlim.

Seriously though, why the hell wasn't he arrested? Some yobbos should have at least beaten the snot outta that punk and his "asian" friends. I'm losing my patience with these assholes. The UK is fooked.

Did the "magistrate" arrest, charge, convict and sentence all those hundreds of [bigoted word]s who stood around holding signs that said "Behead those who insult Islam" and other such violent filth? What? They didn't?

This is what happens when the law is politically correct. People who say common sense things are pesecuted and the favored classes are allowed to spew hatred and death speach at will. God save us all!

Britain's only hope is a revolution that will toss off its oppressive and dhimmified rulers

And should it ever come to that here in America, you and I my friends...we will then be considerd the enemy by the FBI, CIA and the government.

Prepare for any eventuality.

I guess I should read all the comments before posting; I see that I'm only about the 20th person who made mention of the "behead them" signs.

Dear Mr. Matthewson

Please send me your address and Bank acctount # for me to refund you your £150.

I will be willing to send this amount every month if you put your banner back on your fence.

You can also send me the receipts for the sheets and paint.

Thank you for having balls.

test

#37 Just A Grunt
Watch this from the NRA, it has already begun here.

I wonder, if this is how the Fathers of our Republic felt before they decided that there was no other action that would grant them their freedom and throw off their oppression, than a revolution?

Anyone want to speculate on the odds that we are feeling the same feelings that Adams, Washtington, Henry and Jefferson felt; as we see the noose tightening around our own necks?

God save the Constitution, The Republic, and Liberty. Indeed - God Save LIBERTY.

The Brits should take a lesson from South Africa, as we should.

Here is an open letter to us from South Africa. We best read it and learn...fast.

We can't say we have not been warned!

Papa Ray

I am not surprised.
This comes from a nation that will prosecute a citizen for assult for defending himself against an attacker in his own home during the commission of a robbery.

You do anything to the Home invader, you go to jail.

Ok. Then what's the big jump to banning any expression of defiance to someone invading the nation.

Reductum Ridiculosum as national policy.

OT

Just got forwarded this:
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

They pass an ordinance and the ACL f'n U

is going to fight it. WTF.
Does anyone know a reputable organization that is trying to fight the ACLU?

Thanks and keep up the good work ladies and gentlemen!

#58 Owl

You are probably correct, but with a qualifier. Most politicians are craven opportunists, they will change alligence at the drop of a hat. I suspect that a small number of the political class will join in with the revolutionaries just so they will be able to thier power structure.

Also the leftists only hope is the government police forces. They neither own guns nor have the inclination to use them. I also believe that large numbers of FBI and CIA agents are truly suspicious of the motives of the political class, which would lead a good portion of them also to join a revoulution. IMHO

#37 Just_a_Grunt

"Speaker Pelosi will correct that 200 year old mistake."

In the unfortunate event of a Speaker Pelosi, I can say quite candidly that any attempt by her or her minions to disarm the American people will end up in a revolution, the consequences of which she would not like.

#67 deadbackpacker 10/19/2006 09:26AM PDT

I agree with you on your points. If something were to happen, you could expect a few politicians to take the gamble on the revolutionaries for the hope of supreme authority once the fighting is over. There MAY be a few honorable men/women who will rise up in such an event to make sure real honor and justice is instilled in our society. And we must keep in mind that agents of the FBI and CIA are normal people, and not politicians, who can hopefully realize that right and wrong can mean more than orders.

I fear such events unfolding. I don't want to see our country turned into something out of the Middle East, a spawling landscape of ruined cities.

One of his neighbours, a retired Army officer with 23 years service, told the court he reported the matter to the police because he feared a visit from Muslim extremists. ...

What the hell kind of army officer thinks like that, what a coward.

The prosecutor and magistrate have shown themselves to be enemy agents. Publish their names, and have the "street" f*** them up.

Sigh.

This is what comes of not teaching history, not reading history, not understanding history and just plain not wanting to accept the lessons of history. Those idiots have welcomed vipers to their bosoms and they are now paying the price.

No one seems to grasp the fact that these muslims - most muslims- are Nazis in a head scarf. I do not mean to make a trite comparison, either. Like the Germans who viewed themselves as ubermensch they see themselves as followers of the superior religion and possessors of the superior value system - and all others must bow to them. It's already happening where they have freedom of religion while depriving it to others. Now, more and more, you hear how they have freedom of speech, whilst others - the poor ignorant infidels - must be silenced.

There is a war coming and it will not be pretty. It will have to end the same way WWII ended - with an ideology burned to the ground and salt sown into the earth where it took root.

Gary John Mathewson.

Gary John Mathewson.

Say his name. SAY HIS FUCKIN' NAME

He is OUR Che Guevara!

The Brits will soon have 2 choices ;
Operation Mayflower (evacuation to North America )
Or Operation Guillotine .( see Tale of 2 cities )

#49 bweep
ooOOOooohhh how I wish I could subtitle THAT.
Where do you find this stuff? LOL!

QUOTATION FROM ARTICLE IN #64:

Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no getting it back again.

Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises you for your weaknesses and hacks off the arms and legs of his political opponents.

To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will probably fail.

Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your posessions, your power, and your status.

And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.

They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses well.

They know what to do.

Do you?

the first sentence is where the battle in the USA is right now.

We told you so. What's the difference between a nation where "causing distress" can get you convicted and an Islamic Theotratic Police State? Just a name, and about five years, at the rate Britain's racing to shovel it's freedoms into the trash.

#58 Owl

"And should it ever come to that here in America, you and I my friends...we will then be considerd the enemy by the FBI, CIA and the government."

So be it. Some of my ancestors were thought of just that way by their government. Our Founders certainly were.

God bless the Mossberg 500. If this garbage comes to our shores, the muslims and the PC dhimmis will be in for a messy surprise.

#54 Brenda

Thank you for the further link.

/following which, I have learned a WORD ! Precious treasure, it doesn't happen very often.

PSEPHOLOGY
the scientific study of elections

Goodbye England, you gave the world so much, it saddens me to see where you are headed and what you will become.

I posted this one last night but it's more suited to this thread:

A British man collecting signatures backing Jack Straw's criticism of Muslim veils was arrested because he was wearing a ski-mask.

Also here.

#63 Owl

"Anyone want to speculate on the odds that we are feeling the same feelings that Adams, Washtington, Henry and Jefferson felt; as we see the noose tightening around our own necks?"

Hell, the Founders started their revolution over a hell of a lot less tyranny and oppression than what we are living under now. The spark that will set off another revolution will be when they come for our guns. There are too many of us who will just not accept disarmament, because we know disarmament is a prelude to slavery and death.

#62 Carolyn

I'm afraid it's going to get worse before it's over.

I think it's kind of humorous, in a sick way, that the imperious, incompetent, looting New Orleans PD has a Crescent and Star symbol on the doors of their police cars.

We're looking in the mirror folks. Notice the disgusting lib judge here that just wrist slapped Abdul Rahman's "lawyer".

#84 hiker

Testify brother, Testify!

#76 taxfreekiller

Gordon is out and about,

Yep, we've OUTED the Nodrog.

He literally loves Andrew Sullivan.

Bring up Democrat double standards on gays, and he will point out again and again:

This is an Islam-hating site, not a homo-hating site.

Projection, projection, Nodrog. Learn to accept that you are a HOMO.

I will allow NO ONE,muslim or lefty to take away my guns, my beer, my pork, or my freedom.

It will get very messy in the next couple of years. I am 42, I sure as hell never imagined that this would be the USA I would have to live in. Where the hell did it all go wrong?

Nodrog is gay? What thread is that tool on?

whether you own a gun or not, join the NRA. only together can we put up a fight against those who want to repeal the 2nd amendment. the real battle is in municipalities of towns, cities, counties and states. everywhere, the anti-gun crowd is attacking our rights.

1st they take your guns, then they take everything else and you submit.

Get ready, because its just the beginning.

This is all so disturbing.

Just made myself feel better by ordering another boxful of high-capacity mags for my whole collection.

"10 is just not enough"

But somehow I don't see Pelosi allowing the 11th when she finally becomes Dictator next month

#85 Merovign,
I'm afraid so...they just ignored the 2nd amendment and the orders of a judge.
BTW we should all donate to the NRA, whether we have guns or not.

Finding Mathewson guilty presiding magistrate Anne Rees said she and her colleagues felt the words on the banner were likely to cause someone distress, and they did not find it as reasonable.

This is what the majesty of English common law has fallen to?
Words fail me.

Remarks from Fox News' John Gibson...

Bush Gets It

A recent FOX News poll shows that 70 percent of Americans think this country will be in an all-out war against radical Islam within 20 years.

So why is this country continuing to admit Muslim immigrants? Bad craziness!

Meanwhile the English tabloid The Daily Mirror has scrapped plans for a new section titled The Daily Fatwa, which were to include amongst other things The Daily Burka Babe and a flag burning contest where the prize was a brand new car. However The Daily Mirror's reason for scrapping the section had nothing to do with the whole tastelessness of it all. The plans are canceled because the journalists are shit scared what the Muslims might do. So the journalist labour union has decided to oppose the section since it would “purposefully insult Muslims” and thus constitute a “serious threat for violent and dangerous acts of revenge from religious fanatics which may become hurt by the articles.”. Imagine that! Being scared of a such a peaceful religion! Anyway, violence and murderous threats once again pays off.

#96 brenda

Most of the jihadi scum entering the US illegally are coming in from mexico. I have read that there are training camps in central America teaching these muslim scum how to assimilate into mexican culture.

That way they can pay a coyote to bring them into the US and blend in with a population that is not subject to scrutiny. This is scary stuff. Why we haven't secured our borders, and then claim to be at war is a mystery tome

#94 Carolyn

I personally have some malus for the NRA, after Marion Hammer told me personally during the California AWB fiasco that California was a "lost cause" and the NRA wasn't going to "waste resources" fighting it, and at least it could be an "example" to show people.

She as much as told me to piss up a rope when I asked for help fighting the fight in CA, after the state NRA affiliates has brushed off the effort to repeal the legislation.

I'll send money to the NRA when they actually start fighting the fight instead of just talking the game.

The NRA may be a friend of the constitution in Virginia or Colorado, but they're pretty damned AWOL in California.

#96 brenda 10/19/2006 10:19AM PDT

Remarks from Fox News' John Gibson...

Bush Gets It

A recent FOX News poll shows that 70 percent of Americans think this country will be in an all-out war against radical Islam within 20 years.

So why is this country continuing to admit Muslim immigrants? Bad craziness!

Is it that much now? Wow, I guess people are more woken up than I thought.

The thing I wonder, however, is WHY they think we will be at a war with radical Islam? Because radical Islam is a very real threat to Western values, or because Bush is a doodyhead?

#97 Rune
It doesn't alter the fact that a major tabloid knew that such a section would have mass appeal in the UK. It's not all bad news.

Brenda,

So why is this country continuing to admit Muslim immigrants?

What bothers me is that our politicians and media are refusing to even raise the issue.

#89 Deadbackpacker

"It will get very messy in the next couple of years. I am 42, I sure as hell never imagined that this would be the USA I would have to live in. Where the hell did it all go wrong?"

I'mm 55, a Vietnam vet. I can tell you exactly when it started to go wrong: 1965. The Left was feeling emboldened what with their so-called "Free Speech" movements and their childish infatuations with unwashed revolutionaries in third-world countries; and that idiot LBJ told an entire segment of the American population that they no longer had any personal responsibility, that everything would be taken care of for them by the government. But the nail in the coffin was when the Left took almost complete control of the schools and began telling students nation-wide that their parents' dreams were a joke, and that they (their parents) were hypocrites and not to be trusted, etc. When the Left set the stage for the destruction of the family, the slippery slope could no longer be avoided, and we crashed. When the sh!t hits the fan, remember the Left's role in getting there, and give them some well-deserved payback, and make them hurt so badly that they will never again even think about pulling that crap again.

#98 deadbackpacker

It's worse than that. Venezuela's Chavez in now actively promoting jihadist causes in the hemisphere.

Rep. Mike McCaul released a report on Tuesday that painted a bleak picture about terrorism and our open borders. He was interviewed yesterday on Lou Dobbs.

PILGRIM: You know, you bring up the issue of Venezuela and the report says this about Venezuela. The "U.S. military and intelligence officials believe that Venezuela is emerging as a potential hub of terrorism in the Western Hemisphere. The Venezuelan government is issuing identity documents that could subsequently be used to obtain a U.S. visa and enter the country."

We know that these cartels that are smuggling people in and out. There's often a name change, that people will come in under an assumed name and try to represent themselves as a different nationality. Venezuela has objected to this characterization, but what makes you convinced that it's true?

MCCAUL: Well, we know that five Pakistanis were apprehended at the U.S./Mexico border with fraudulent Venezuelan documents. FBI director Robert Mueller basically testified before our committee that Islamic individuals were changing their surnames and taking on Hispanic identities with false documents.

If this doesn't wake anybody up, I don't know what would. And all we need to do is look at Mr. Chavez's comments that he has made publicly as he has embraced the Islamic jihad world and called them the brotherhood. He has embraced Iran, he has embraced Syria, he has endorsed Tehran's nuclear weapons program. And when you look at the threat of proliferation, as Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons and nuclear material, it puts the threat now in our own hemisphere, indeed in our own backyard. I don't think we can turn a blind eye to this problem anymore.

You can download the report from

One of his neighbours, a retired Army officer with 23 years service, told the court he reported the matter to the police because he feared a visit from Muslim extremists.

Liberals will never understand why Radical Islam is a problem. When they do understand the problem they keep trying to "reason" with them.

Worldly Ambitions
The history of centuries of jihad and imperialism
by Bruce Thornton

Decades of ideological corruption of scholarship in American universities have crippled us in the war against Islamic jihad. Marxist-inspired culture criticism, made necessary by Marx’s utter failure to accurately describe and predict economic and political history and change, created a reflexive hatred of the democratic, capitalist West among many of its left-leaning intellectuals and scholars.

Viewed through this Marxist-Leninist template, age-old, universal human practices of migration, conquest, and appropriation of other people’s resources are now transformed into the peculiarly Western sins of “imperialism” and “colonialism,” which are then turned into the primal crime of the West against humanity, the wicked source of all our current woes. At the same time, postmodern approaches to history reduce all facts to mere “interpretations,” fables created to camouflage and further the West’s hegemonic aims.

Rather than a search for truth, postmodern history is now an unmasking of these secret motives and the machinations of oppressive power. Finally, noble-savage multiculturalism sentimentalizes and idealizes the non-Western “other” and his culture as superior to the soul-killing, money-grubbing, neurotic civilization of the West that has victimized him.

This mélange may be incoherent and self-contradictory, but is toxic nonetheless. Nowhere is this combination of leftist ideology, anti-Western hatred, mangling of historical facts, and intellectual incoherence more obvious than in the late Edward Said’s Orientalism, easily the most influential interpretation of the Middle East for the last thirty years, one that has shaped not just departments of Middle Eastern studies, but disciplines like English and political science as well. The baneful effects of Said’s work can be seen in the way Islam has been transformed into a religion of peace and tolerance oppressed by a rapacious West, whose colonial and imperial sins have caused and justify the current wave of jihadist terrorism.

Continued...

#103 hiker

remember the Left's role in getting there, and give them some well-deserved payback, and make them hurt so badly that they will never again even think about pulling that crap again.

Not possible. Every failed communist experiment, millions starved and millions executed didn't even slow them down.

They will always crop up, again and again.

The best we can hope for is adequate history lessons to keep them in a small enough minority that they only cause occasional trouble, but so far THEY'RE the ones "teaching," so the only adequate lesson people get is the one they seek out on their own.

#104

Oops, here's the link to the Lou Dobbs transcript...

[Link: transcripts.cnn.com...]

CNN Justifies Death Porn,

...We also understood that this kind of footage is upsetting and disturbing for many viewers. But after getting beyond the emotional debate, we concluded the tape meets our criteria for newsworthiness.

360 blog

To Hell with'em.

America

There are those in your government who clearly reject the Revolution, and see it as a temporary aberration in the history of BRITISH North America.

Question: Is your Federal Goverment Bureaucracy a counter-revolutionary reaction movement?

#48 Hiker

"Britain's only hope is a revolution that will toss off its oppressive and dhimmified rulers"

Er, I dont think I would go that far...

I feel like Muhammad Ali. The best thing that ever happened to me was that my granddaddy got on that boat. Why anyone would stay in Britain anymore is beyond my comprehension. Freedom of speech for people who kill unbelievers is just hunky dory and to be encouraged. Saying the same as a native gets you jail time. Sad, sad, sad.

I did not read after this incident, about 50 more people walking in front of the court or where ever with signs stating what this guy was charged and fined for. The after those 50 people 100 people more, and so on. No, just 1 person and plop, NOTHING after that, no passive resistance. PASSIVE RESISTENCE, signs our enemies hate and get charged for. Guess there isn't much support a bunch of suckers who just roll over.

#111 Felay Timi

"Er, I dont think I would go that far..."

If I were a Brit, I would. The problem with Britain IS its elitist leadership and judges. My God, just read what has been going on there over the last 25 years. My mother is from England, and I have a lot of relatives there: believe me, they have a terrible problem with their current government. Maybe elections will turn the tables. But the Brits must be prepared to do what's necessary in the event their country cannot be saved by any reliance on their governing bodies, or because their governing bodies remain part of the problem.

If everyone who posts in this thread chips in two american dollars, we can probably raise that £150, with enough left over to buy him a bottle of gin or a nice fruit basket.

114 Hiker

Apologies, I forgot the /sarc tag on my post. ("toss off" in Britspeak is different to the US version I guess :)

I agree with your point of view.

my #116

Thinking about it, it is missing a "/Beavis and Butthead" tag rather than a "/sarc"

And referring to MP Jack Straw questioning whether Muslim women should wear face veils he asked: “Are you going to arrest him?”
When prosecutor Maggie Hughes pointed out that the banner did not mention extremists Mathewson said: “That’s what I meant by those who threaten us and our way of life.’”
Adding that during the protest in London a Muslim was dressed as a suicide bomber he asked: “Why was he not arrested?”

So, England, answer the question!

Would this sign be OK

"behead those who behead those who insult islam"

or will the PC wimps alter it to make it OK

"behead those who behead those who insult islam"

#116 and 117 Fellay Timi

Understood. :)

#119 shug 10/19/2006 12:37PM PDT

"All shug's dreams not come true!" hah

But you mention a serious sign of a society too left-leaning, the idea that the minorities are without fault, while the majorities are without merit.

Arm yourselves. Buy more ammo than you think you would ever need. Lay in the food and other supplies. All while you still can.

It's coming...sooner than anyone thought...

#116 and 117 Fellay Timi

Actually, I thought about that after I wrote it (i.e., "toss off"). I was thinking in Americanese rather than British slang. In the British sense, perhaps if the British government elites locked themselves in closets and "tossed off" instead of oppressing their subjects things wouldn't be so bad there.

Thank God I live in the USA, where I can cause distress.

I love Brits, but I feel their government is leading them far down the wrong path. Bottom line - criminalizing hurting someone's feelings is insane.

"This won’t stop until there is a Muslim president in the White House White Mosque on Pennsylvania Avenue.”

#122 Rootless Cosmo

"Arm yourselves. Buy more ammo than you think you would ever need."

I've got that covered.

Whoopsy .. let me try that strike feature again ;(

This won't stop until there is a Muslim president Ahyatolla in the White HouseBig White Mosque on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Here's hoping :)

Strike this

#128 Albemarle

:)

This guy reminds me of character in Hanif Kureishi's "The Buddha of Suburbia."

In 'The Buddha of Suburbia', Karim is restricted from seeing his friend Helen by her father:
" ... 'We don't like it,' Hairy Back said. 'However many n*** there are, we don't like it. We're with Enoch. If you put one of your black 'ands near my daughter I'll smash it with a 'ammer! With a 'ammer!' "

Kureishi's "Black Album" identified the problem of Muslim extermists back in the 90s, post the Rushdie fatwa. Might be interesting reading for the more literate amongst you.

“Kill all Muslims who threaten us and our way of life...”
...
When prosecutor Maggie Hughes pointed out that the banner did not mention extremists...”

Is CAIR going to complain about the prosecutor now? After all, she pretty much admitted that Muslims who threaten us are not extremists. They're just average Muslims.

Orwell must feel vindicated

VEIL DEMO BY DAD IN BALACLAVA
By Aidan McGurran

A MAN collecting signatures backing Jack Straw's criticism of Muslim veils was arrested - because he was wearing a balaclava.

James Scott, 40, wore the black headpiece to demonstrate veils were a barrier to communication.

But he refused to remove it when asked by two women police officers.

[Link: www.mirror.co.uk...]

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All this is really good. Carry on appeasing.

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London Olympics huge terrorism target - police

LONDON (Reuters) - The 2012 Olympics in London will be a "huge target" for terrorists, the capital's police chief said on Thursday.

His comments came after the Guardian quoted counter-terrorist officials as saying Britain had become the prime target for a resurgent and more structured al Qaeda.

Scotland Yard chief Sir Ian Blair told reporters: "There can be no doubt that the 2012 Games -- if the current threat scenario stays the same -- will be a huge target, and we have to understand that and work on that basis."

[Link: www.mirror.co.uk...]

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Building that huge mosque in East London will provide an insurance against terrorists.

What a coice.

The sign was not a carefully worded and clearly acceptable sentiment. I agree with the ruling. I also believe the protestors with signs demanding the killing of cartoonists should be charged.

117 Hiker and Earl

Left a post for you

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

#135 DP111

Thanks. Things are going to get very interesting very shortly.

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods
of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the
next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as
his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must
delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased
to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid
qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social
development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists
in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and
proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa,
raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity
is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it
had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell
the civilization of ancient Rome."

-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages
248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

Is it just a matter of time before Sir Winston is expunged from England's history books, as well as his from lofty place in the UK's pantheon of heroes for holding these views?

So what if the Nodrog is gay; it just means that it won't reproduce and give us any more little Nodrogs to humiliate. (actually, I produce little Nodrogs everytime I sits upon the crapper... I drop them off at the pool and they always swim away. Buh-bye, little Nodrogs...)

Big Brother is watching. Army officers turning in neighbors? Creepy, spineless, Orwellian. When will they start bursting into churches?

This man was convicted for two very simple reasons;
1. He defended himself and did not prepare his case properly, in that he made no reference to the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006, which actually allows expressions of contempt on a religious basis.
2. He didn't subpoena the nieghbour as a witness. The army coward openly admitted to calling the police for fear of unspecified consequence from an unknown and possibly imaginary group, and could not have shown why such action would have been directed at him. Complaint instantly binned.
Hopefully the bloke will appeal this with a decent lawyer, who will explain to him that police failure to arrest another person for a different offence at a far distant location is not, in fact, material to his case.

I have sympathy for the man, but his poor handling of the case will just make it more difficult for the next person.

TO: Owl
RE: Indeed

"God save the Constitution, The Republic, and Liberty. Indeed - God Save LIBERTY." -- Owl

I'm reminded of Samuel Adams' comment...

If you love wealth more than liberty. If you love comfort more than the animatmed contest of freedom. Then depart from us in peace. We seek neither your counsel nor your support. Go lick the hand that feeds you. May the fetters be light upon you. And may prosperty forget that you were our countryman.

I think it a highly appropriate response to a LOT of people these days.

Indeed, yesterday I had occassion to use it here, locally. Some guy who didn't want a politcal sign supporting a conservative candidate for legislature in his business area because he had been threatened by liberal customers that they would withdraw their business if he did such a thing.

Regards,

Chuck(le)