Appeasement at it's finest. No wonder they cannot get their situation under control.

Well, it looks like the mayor is assuming the correct position in the photo.

Wonder if someone would jump in front of the metro here in DC after breaking the law and get a memorial and wreath laying ceremony in their honor?

I sure as hell hope not.

Some people deserve what they get...

maybe LA will put up a Rodney King statue

This remind anyone else of the Arizona memorial? There is something wrong with the moral judgement of these people.

An inquiry into the teenagers’ deaths could lead to charges of negligence against several police officers.

Why would anyone want to be a French cop? If they're not getting assaulted, they're scapegoats.

I blame Bush.

The French Way
Definition: Finding new and creative was to surrender

The deaths of Zyed Benna and Bouna Traore sparked three weeks of violent riots in France’s poor suburbs as the young and unemployed vented their anger over what they saw as lack of opportunity and racial discrimination.

A rather poor choice of words, don't ya think?

I almost feel sorry for France. It must be tremendously humiliating deep inside when you know in your heart of hearts that you are a gutess coward - both a physcial and moral one.

Cowards die many times before their deaths. The valiant only taste of death but once

Julius Casear to his wife Calpurnia in the play of that name by Shakespeare.

France surrendering.
Golly gee, color me surprised.

Image if the Communists had been clever enough to go about it this way.

Are there thinkers in France?

Do they no longer teach logic or reason? When they go to school do they study instead ways to invert their minds so all sense is dissolved and replaced with insanity?

No - I can't call it insanity. I know some very fine people who would be considered insane that could do better than this lot.

Noam

I thought the same thing. Clever writer or naive mistake? Humorous either way.

Sickening. What? The French have no MEN in their country?

IS this payback for being FRENCH? Where is Napolean when you need him?

For the few French MEN still left in France...go get your arms and take back your country.

Meanwile in Britain;

FOUR ARE MURDERED ON NIGHT OF HORROR

FOUR men were murdered and another left fighting for life yesterday after a night of bloodshed across Britain.

David Lees, 23, died in hospital after being deliberately run down by a car at 1am in Prestwich, NORTH MANCHESTER.

Police said David, who was white, was among a group involved in a row with a group of Asian youths on a garage forecourt.

A police spokesman said: "We are treating this as a racial incident, but the murder was not racially motivated.

"It seems like a low-level disturbance escalated out of all proportion. The vehicle fled the scene."

Yes, that Manchester: where the imam says it's OK to kill gays.

Total idiocy.

That's all I can say.

za French, ze are a most peculiar race...

The Saints French Toast.

Must have been a sale on wreaths.

Did the parents of the 2 dead youths sue the city? I bet they will win millions.

An inquiry into the teenagers’ deaths could lead to charges of negligence against several police officers.

Did someone say charges?
ZAP!
/discharge

#15 SevoGuy 10/29/2006 03:53PM PST

Where is Napolean when you need him?

Spinning like a top in his grave I imagine.

How were these kids victims, except but in the most poetic and liberal sense? Such as: They were the victims of their society.

I can't believe how twisted the modern perspective makes things. That these children died was sad, but their only memorial should be that which I expect for myself: a grave.

I was scanning the stories of the front page of LGF and I was struck by the sheer volume of useful idiots and exploiters are on display. How can anyone look through these things, read every story, and then not think we are on the verge of a showdown between the west and middle east (if we aren't already in one)? How can people be so appeasing, let others walk over them without saying, "Wait a moment, this won't stop unless I take a stand."

Has there been any word out of the Catholic Church in France on this nonsense? Do people even go to church there anymore?

If not, maybe that's a big part of their problem right there.

Anyone got any great French toast recipes? Now would be a good time!

F-ck, why didn't they tear down the substation, leaving residents in the dark, and turn the site into a memorial garden?

El, are you watching this thread? WTF is going on there? If you decide to bail, and come to the US, you are welcome.

Ah, let's not rush to judgment regarding Mayor Claude Dilain. The poor sot is just appealing to his constituency. This coward understands completely that the realization of a "socialist utopia" is dependent upon infiltration and agitation. This asshat knows exactly what he's doing.

“It’s not by restricting them, or leaving them at home, or stopping them from going out - that’s not a solution,” said Zyed’s father.

Sure it is -- when was the last time you saw a Mooselim woman setting a Fwench car on fire?

How much more honor do they need? I mean my gosh they lit about a million cars on fire for them!

Well, let's hope for a positive outcome to all this.

#22 Killgore Trout

How do you say "bug zapper" in French?

I had no idea that there was one for roaches...

I told you this morning the Beeb story was too early to be THE jawdropper.

I guess French cops aren't issued firearms anymore, just tubes of KY.

BTW: I hadn't heard before that the "youths"electrocuted themselves. Perfect: iStan corners the market on Darwin Award ™ Nominations.

*guffaw*

If were the French police, I'd walk off the job over this.

Argh... you beat me to the mentioning of the Darwin Awards.

#33 Noam Sayin'

The situation is becoming increasingly polarized.

"Mohammed and Mohammed: Killed by Infidel Electrons."

THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.

Chirac is coming out with a new CD in honor of the occasion:

[Link: members.fortunecity.com...]

OMG--this is absolutely insane.

They run from the police, hide where they're not supposed to to avoid detection, get killed in the process, and get a freakin' memorial? It's hard to even wrap your mind around this one.

I've been sooo looking forward to another round of full-blown rioting. I really miss last year's 2000 car-per-day extravaganza.

Indy about to hang tough, and beat Denver. 31-31 with :06 to go.

Vinatieri up to kick.

#27 new_tommy 10/29/2006 03:58PM PST

Anyone got any great French toast recipes? Now would be a good time!

Yes, absolutely. Here you go -

Divine French Toast

Slice challah about 1.5 inches thick. Beat eggs together with 1/4 cup half&half for every two eggs along with 1/4 tsp. cinnamon, a couple of gratings of fresh nutmeg and 1/2 tsp. pure vanilla. Soak challah slices (2 eggs does about 2 slices, so judge accordingly) turning after a few minutes.

Meanwhile, mix together some fruit - bananas, apples, berries, melon, grapes, whatever you like. Sweeten a little to taste.

Whip some heavy (whipping) cream.

Saute the challah in a small amount of butter on a griddle, turning once. It is cooked through when it starts to look puffy.

Serve topped generously with fruit, a sprinkle of powdered sugar and a dollop of cream.

The French and North african Youths got together to meditate about the two fried yutes

and they all chanted

ohm

ohm

ohm

It is an odd thing about youth you hate those that try to keep you safe and love those that try to make your life more dangerous. The fact that there appear to be no Adults in France is scary. Sometimes a boot too the ass is the lesser of 2 evils.

The kick is good. 34-31 Indy, with :02 to go.

Two words for the French:

Wise Up

/Aimee Mann!

Dhimmitude is always greener on the other side of the Channel;

Why we run away from teenagers

An estate agent in France told me last week that when he first began selling French homes to British people some years ago, most clients cited climate as their reason for moving. Now buyers cite yob culture as their main reason for leaving these shores.

It is not only the retired who are being driven out. From Peterhead to Penzance come refugees. My friend is told that binge-drinking feral gangs have ruined Britain and that our teenagers are the worst in the world.

In France, life may be expensive, but at least the country’s youngsters don’t rampage through every town centre and require the police to be on full alert, as was the case in the Morayshire town of Elgin last weekend.
---
But even as we shiver in the grip of paedophobia, more French people come and live in Britain than Brits go to live in France.

Colts marched right down the field and answered Denver's FG. Indy is 7-0.

FROGS assume the position

what a fucking moron.

x-ray
I know the girls in the surf flick you left us with last nite. My Home Town. :)

#46 shug 10/29/2006 04:04PM PST
The French and North african Youths got together to meditate about the two fried yutes

and they all chanted

ohm

ohm

ohm

and the chants really got the crowd amped up

Are there thinkers in France?

Alain Finkielkraut. He's a Jew:

I’m a Terrorist Groupie, Hear Me Roar!

Lars Hedegaard’s view seems to mirror that of French philosopher and cultural critic Alain Finkielkraut, who thinks that “Europe does not love itself.” Finkielkraut says that it’s not forces from outside that are threatening Europe as much as the voluntary renunciation of European identity, its wish of freeing itself from itself, its own history and its traditions, only replaced by human rights. The European Union thus isn’t just post-national, but post-European. What characterizes Europe today is the will to define itself, not from an ideology, but by dismissing any sense of identity. Europe is now built upon an oath: Never again. Never again extermination, never again war, but also never again nationalism. Europe prides itself in being nothing.

According to Finkielkraut, Auschwitz has become part of the foundation of the EU, a culture based on guilt. But this is a vague ideology saying that “We have to oppose everything the Nazis were for.” Consequently, nationalism or any kind of attachment to your own country, including what some would say is healthy, non-aggressive patriotism, is frowned upon. To remember is to regret. Europe rejects its past. “European identity” is the de-identification of Europe. Of the past, we are only to remember crimes. This didn’t just happen in Germany, but in all of Europe. “I can understand the feeling of remorse that is leading Europe to this definition, but this remorse goes too far. It is too great a gift to present Hitler to reject everything that led to him.” This is said by the Jewish son of an Auschwitz prisoner.

Finkielkraut says that Europe has made human rights its gospel, to such an extent that it threatens European history and culture. This creates a Europe without substance. “When hatred of culture becomes itself a part of culture, the life of the mind loses all meaning.” Finkielkraut reminds us that the multiculturalists’ demand for “diversity” requires the eclipse of the individual in favor of the group.

The abdication of reason demanded by multiculturalism has been the result of the subjection of culture to anthropology. “Under the equalizing eye of social science,” he writes, hierarchies are abolished. The disintegration of faith in reason and common humanity leads not only to a destruction of standards, but also involves a crisis of courage. “A careless indifference to grand causes,” Finkielkraut warns, “has its counterpart in abdication in the face of force,” and weakens the commitment required to preserve freedom.

What, in fact, is replacing assimilation? Anyone who doesn’t want to assimilate, French culture assimilates into his identity. Children aren’t speaking French, but rather a jargon composed of Arabic words and meager French. “There is always a culture that emerges victorious. In no society is there a vacuum.” Another thinker, Pascal Bruckner, agrees that Europe has made repentance for old sins, perceived or real, the central point of its identity, and something close to an obsession. And this is unhealthy, according to him. “If somebody hits you, you will think: This is for something I have done.” “Never again” and the belief that dialogue will take care of all problems are the guiding principles. We are filled with regret, but cannot fill Europe with anything positive.

Emotions are all over the grid.

Allons enfants de la Patrie
it faux qu'on lire
Orianna Falici
Elle peut vous dire qu'est ce que a passe ...

#32

These inner city kids believe that drug dealing is their only hope and they are so wrong. I live in brooklyn above a bodega. Lemme tell ya: social programs here rock. You can go to school for free until 18, then do college on loans. This is harder than drug dealing though, and they have no one to prod them on and show them real character.

They are not victims, but blame can certainly be placed on their parents and peers for letting them think this behavior is tolerated. The old school black and latino guys are authoritarian and know right from wrong, but they have pretty much thrown up their hands by now. They can't compete with the ghetto fabulous image sold to the kids by Russel Simmons and P Diddy.

That being said, a great majority of people in the ghetto are decent people, they just have little motivation to move up and out. By glamorizing the ghetto, rappers have done a lot of harm. Celebrating your ghetto life is fine, but it needs to stop at advocating it.

Notice the warning signs all over that equipment.

I'm guessing that the poor "yoots" were too uneducated to even understand what the warning icons meant!

That said, the exclusive study of the Koran (To the detriment of learning anything else) doesn't exactly prepare you for living in a technologically-advanced society, does it?

JAFLW

#34 religion of bacon

How do you say "bug zapper" in French?

Le zappier du insectiques

#27 new_tommy
All I have is Freedom Toast recipes.

Steelers about to blow another one.

/damn

In many ways, French Toast is like pancakes.

/deeply philosophical

More:

Political Correctness — The Revenge of Marxism

Commenting on the Jihad riots in France in the fall of 2005, philosopher Alain Finkielkraut stated: “In France, they would like very much to reduce these riots to their social dimension, to see them as a revolt of youths from the suburbs against their situation, against the discrimination they suffer from, against the unemployment. The problem is that most of these youths are blacks or Arabs, with a Muslim identity.

Look, in France there are also other immigrants whose situation is difficult — Chinese, Vietnamese, Portuguese — and they’re not taking part in the riots. Therefore, it is clear that this is a revolt with an ethno-religious character. These people were treated like rebels, like revolutionaries. (…) They’re ‘interesting.’ They’re ‘the wretched of the earth.’ “Imagine for a moment that they were whites, like in Rostock in Germany. Right away, everyone would have said: ‘Fascism won’t be tolerated.’ When an Arab torches a school, it’s rebellion. When a white guy does it, it’s fascism. Evil is evil, no matter what color it is.”

In an interview with Danish weekly Weekendavisen, Finkielkraut said that: “Racism is the only thing that can still arouse anger among the intellectuals, the journalists and people in the entertainment business, in other words, the elites. Culture and religion have collapsed, only anti-racism is left. And it functions like an intolerant and inhumane idolatry.”

“A leader from one of the organizations against racism had the nerve to refer to the actions of the police in the Parisian suburbs as ‘ethnic cleansing.’ That kind of expression used about the French situation indicates a deliberate manipulation of the language. Unfortunately, these insane lies have convinced the public that the destruction in the suburbs should be viewed as a protest against exclusion and racism.” “I think that the lofty idea of ‘the war on racism’ is gradually turning into a hideously false ideology. And this anti-racism will be for the 21st century what communism was for the 20th century: A source of violence.”

Maybe the French have fallen prey to the nihilism of Jean-Paul Sartre? Roger Scruton wrote about his continued influence in The Spectator: “The French have not recovered from Sartre and perhaps never will. For they have had to live with an intellectual establishment that has consistently repudiated the two things that hold the country together: Christianity and the idea of France.

The anti-bourgeois posture of the left-bank intellectual has entered the political process, and given rise to an elite for whom nothing is certain save the repudiation of the national idea. It is thanks to this elite that the mad project of European Union has become indelibly inscribed in the French political process, even though the people of France reject it. It is thanks to this elite that the mass immigration into France of unassimilable Muslim communities has been both encouraged and subsidised. It is thanks to this elite that socialism has been so firmly embedded in the French state that no one now can reform it.” “Man cannot live by negation alone.”

The crowd is electrified.

#45 galloping granny

Not bad. I'll have to give it a try. I love French toast.

I usually make French toast by taking two Franco-Muslim yoots, at least one with a prior arrest record, and placing them in an electrical substation with a ton of warning signs for a period of...well, you can figure the rest out. Top it off with a bouquet of flowers.

File under: current events.

Watt were these people thinking, anyway?

#50 Terp Mole

'But even as we shiver in the grip of paedophobia, more French people come and live in Britain than Brits go to live in France.'

Probably a misunderstanding of the raw statistics. The French emigres are Muslim colonists.

#57 me
translation
Come, children of the Fatherland
One must read Orianna Fallici
She can tell you what has happened

I predict that locally produced maps of France will have arabic hyphenated names for several cities by the end of this decade, and for the entire country by 2030.

Al-Paris, anyone?

Perhaps this will lead to a surge of Fwench nationalism.

The two youths get a memorial?

#26 mama winger

Chuch attendance has been on the decline in western europe for a couple of decades. Humanism is the new religion and it will bring peace to the continent because it does not involve a dogma that can be fought over, or so they think.

Therefor, the equivilancy of Islam and Chritianinty in the thinking of these people does not allow them to link dogma to action. Only religeion as a whole is the problem.

I wonder how long this line of thinking will be tolerated by the rest of the world?

#70 blackrabbit

Babylon-sur-Seine

I was almost afraid to click on this thread.

A french jawdropper sounds like something you buy online that is delivered in plain brown paper.

#26 mama winger 10/29/2006 03:58PM PST

Has there been any word out of the Catholic Church in France on this nonsense? Do people even go to church there anymore?

If not, maybe that's a big part of their problem right there.

Mama winger,

According the University of Michigan, 21% of the French population attended church once a week in 1991 when the study was conducted.
My guess is that the percent is lower now than then.

#60 Killgore Trout 10/29/2006 04:09PM PST

#34 religion of bacon

How do you say "bug zapper" in French?

Le zappier du insectiques

#27 new_tommy
All I have is Freedom Toast recipes.

I am perfectly content to call it French Toast. In France the dish is known as Pain Perdue - which if you speak a little bit of French you might recognize as Lost Bread :) Very appropriate.

Power to the People! Bzzzt

#55 Fjordman

Thank you so much for that article. It very much reflects the thinking of the German foreign exchange student we hosted a couple of years ago. His shame at being German, his self-abasement, his hanging of the head, was SO FOREIGN to us as Americans.

He refused to look at a gun, much less handle one. He said "I can not be trusted with a gun", Why not? I said. "Because I am a German and we almost destroyed the world."

No amount of talking to him about the wonderful things in German culture could change his mind. He always seemed very quiet and sad.

He was amazed that we loved our country and flew our flag. It was very disconcerting.

#55 Fjordman 10/29/2006 04:08PM PST

Are there thinkers in France?

Alain Finkielkraut. He's a Jew:

I assume then that he will be an Israeli thinker, like most of the rest of the French Jews?

Pathetic, how can the photo above be any more humiliating to the fwench, the mayor bending down to lay the wreath, his assistant stands erect behind him, as if that isn't enough, the yoot places a white t-shirt on the assistants back, with the slogan “Dead for nothing” most likely

This forum really keeps me up on my current events

The relatives and friends are free to unveil any monument or memorial to these two youts. France is, after all, a sort of free country.

But for official France to participate directly or indirectly is ridiculous.

Personally, I think anyone who breaks into an electrical sub-station and is subsequently electrocuted should be commemorated with a Darwin Award nomination, not a plaque, but then, I'm not a nice person.

#79 mama winger

The Euros seem to have perfected the art of painless self-castration...

#79 addendum

He also was an atheist and was surprised that not only did we go to church - we actually looked forward to it.

I see Claude Dilain displays the appropriate posture for the occasion.

#67 Noam Sayin'

Watt were these people thinking, anyway?

Maybe they thought they had some musical talent, they were good conducters.
/Wacka-wacka

The two yoots were just a couple of resistors

Someone please organize a transfer of all the great masterpieces in the Louvre and Musee d'Orsay before the "yutes" destroy them in one great Bonfire of the Vanities.

A monument to two stupid idiots who broke the law and couldn't read basic warning signs. Way to go cheese brains! Just turn your country over to the muslims already. I can't endure anymore Frenchiness.

#79 mama winger 10/29/2006 04:16PM PST

#55 Fjordman

Thank you so much for that article. It very much reflects the thinking of the German foreign exchange student we hosted a couple of years ago. His shame at being German, his self-abasement, his hanging of the head, was SO FOREIGN to us as Americans.

He refused to look at a gun, much less handle one. He said "I can not be trusted with a gun", Why not? I said. "Because I am a German and we almost destroyed the world."

No amount of talking to him about the wonderful things in German culture could change his mind. He always seemed very quiet and sad.

He was amazed that we loved our country and flew our flag. It was very disconcerting.

How SAD mama! And how very different than the Germans I once knew. They hated what Hitler had done to their country, they hated what he had done in the name of their country - but they loved their country.

What on earth has happened there in the last 30 years?

#54 shrug

#46 shug 10/29/2006 04:04PM PST
The French and North african Youths got together to meditate about the two fried yutes

and they all chanted

ohm

ohm

ohm

and the chants really got the crowd amped up

---

All this RESISTANCE is just shocking!
---
nyuk--nyuk--nyuk...

Europe is defeating itself.

Apparently the good Old Fashioned French Resistence was lacking in these two youths

Sorry Ot, but, Woo Hoo, Raiders have two wins! Tee Hee Hee!

Vichy lives!

Where is Jacques Massu when you need him?

#26 moma winger

#73 BSM Engineer

All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

Dear France,

Go to hell and kiss my jewish ass

Mama Winger,

He refused to look at a gun, much less handle one. He said "I can not be trusted with a gun", Why not? I said. "Because I am a German and we almost destroyed the world."

You should have sent him to me for a while. I'm mostly ethnically German. My grandfather was a decorated WWII vet who fought on the European Front. If people like him hadn't picked up a gun, Hitler would be running the show over in the Old World. If you can't be a Euro-German proudly, maybe it is time to act more like a German-American and many of them, unlike the lilified Euro-Germans of today, handle firearms.

#50 Terp Mole

"A Clockwork Orange" has truly come to pass in England.

And it's not just about Muslims, either. Not by a long shot.

The majority of the French are still insulated from the yoot violence.

Has the Darwin Award ever gone to a country? I think France should be nominated.

Hey they will soon turn the two "yutes" Zyed Benna and Bouna Traore into icons just like they did Rachel Corrie. Speaking of Rachel Corrie - I walked past the Minetta Lane theater in Greenwich Village today where the play "My Name is Rachel Corrie" is playing and was disgusted to find out that the run has been extended to December 30 (it originally was going to close in November). Lovely.

I believe the music played in the background at the ceremony was from this album.

Does anyone else have any more puns?

Or should we throw the switch on that theme.

#91 g granny

It was very sad indeed. There were a group of them in my son's school - about 6 I think. They all seemed the same.

We are a very laughing, loving, rowdy family. We love out loud. By the end of the semester, Jens was starting to come around. I could catch him reading the Bible when no one was looking. He started singing some songs in church. HE laughed and started to play little jokes on me.

If I could have had that kid one more semester, I could have turned him into an American, at least in spirit.

He came back to visit me last year. He called me Mama.

That monument to the Saints French Toast would be much better if it had some neon lights. They really need to amp it up a bit.

101 religion of bacon 10/29/2006 04:22PM PST
The majority of the French are still insulated from the yoot violence.

I'm shocked to hear that!

#106 mama winger 10/29/2006 04:24PM PST

#91 g granny

It was very sad indeed. There were a group of them in my son's school - about 6 I think. They all seemed the same.

We are a very laughing, loving, rowdy family. We love out loud. By the end of the semester, Jens was starting to come around. I could catch him reading the Bible when no one was looking. He started singing some songs in church. HE laughed and started to play little jokes on me.

If I could have had that kid one more semester, I could have turned him into an American, at least in spirit.

He came back to visit me last year. He called me Mama.

The German kids I once knew were wonderful - and very much like Americans. Most of them wanted to be Americans, loved to play cowboys & indians and always went trick or treating. In fact, I learned German from a 7 year old who was forbidden to speak English (his English was better than his German.) Neat kid he was.

Forget bug zappers, we now have thug zappers.

#105 Noam Sayin'

I agree, we're starting to get repeats.

Conjugate the verb dhimmir

je dhimm
tu dhimmes
il; elle dhimm
nous dhimmons
nous dimmez
ils; elles dhimment

#108 buzzsawmonkey

Both are testimonials to lawbreakers cut down in the process of their antisocial behavior.

As the memorials, plays, and deification of Rachel Corrie.

We live in bizarre and depressing times.

Shocka! (Pun intended.)

#110 g granny

He asked me why I was so proud to be an American. Not snarky - really asking. So I told him. I asked him, "Why are you not proud to be a German?" He said, "We have nothing to be proud of." His German friends with him that night all nodded in agreement. It was as if someone had deliberately sucked the life out of them all. I couldn't stand it.

#105 Noam Sayin'

Does anyone else have any more puns?

How many meccawatts of power did it take to fry the two heros?

#116 Peter Verkooijen 10/29/2006 04:29PM PST

We live in bizarre and depressing times.

Isn't that an old curse - May you live in interesting times?

Sure is bizarre, isn't it? And the more things change the more they are exactly the same. I swear that somewhere in the world there are gigantic warehouses where somebody stashes all the "fashionable" clothes that flopped the first time around so they can drag them out again 25 years later. This week it is 80's.

#97 sailordude

All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

Is that a quote from someone, or your personal view?

#112 religion of bacon 10/29/2006 04:28PM PST
#105 Noam Sayin'

I agree, we're starting to get repeats.

That's shocking! /heh

I'm illuminated - we are not generating new puns; we've become static.

I will bolt if I repeat someone - I would not want to be put in a cell.

#55 Fjordman 10/29/2006 04:08PM PST

The abdication of reason demanded by multiculturalism has been the result of the subjection of culture to anthropology. “Under the equalizing eye of social science,” he writes, hierarchies are abolished. The disintegration of faith in reason and common humanity leads not only to a destruction of standards, but also involves a crisis of courage.

I'm a little OT here but I think this ties into the European problem at hand. Has anyone read Richard Dawkings interview in Salon emagazine? The interview is about a year old but he's just released a new book on this subject so we'll probably being hearing more about this. The heading is:

Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins explains why God is a delusion, religion is a virus, and America has slipped back into the Dark Ages.

In it he says:

It comes, I'm sorry to say, from religion. And from bad religion. You won't find any opposition to the idea of evolution among sophisticated, educated theologians. It comes from an exceedingly retarded, primitive version of religion, which unfortunately is at present undergoing an epidemic in the United States. Not in Europe, not in Britain, but in the United States.

My American friends tell me that you are slipping towards a theocratic Dark Age. Which is very disagreeable for the very large number of educated, intelligent and right-thinking people in America. Unfortunately, at present, it's slightly outnumbered by the ignorant, uneducated people who voted Bush in.

So, apparently he and many Europeans have no qualms about becoming a post-Christian atheist civilization. I think a hugh vacuum will result into which Islam will flourish like a pathogen set loose in a petry dish.

we're starting to get repeats.

Do you mean we're reVOLTing?

Also: "Dead GOOD for nothing"
(Fixed that for yuns.)

#119 Kreuzueber Halbmond

How many meccawatts of power did it take to fry the two heros?

Lol.

#122 Cattt

I'm illuminated - we are not generating new puns; we've become static.

Lol again.

#118 mama winger 10/29/2006 04:31PM PST

#110 g granny

He asked me why I was so proud to be an American. Not snarky - really asking. So I told him. I asked him, "Why are you not proud to be a German?" He said, "We have nothing to be proud of." His German friends with him that night all nodded in agreement. It was as if someone had deliberately sucked the life out of them all. I couldn't stand it.

G_d I hope you gave him a list! A very long list. Just think of the philosophy, the music, the chemistry and physics that the world would be without with no Germany. The medicine. If you lined up all the Western nations in order of their contributions to modern thought and science Germany would be pretty close to the top.

wonder if they are going to put up a memoral to ST PANCAKE anytime soon

Two youts french fried. Re-volt-ing!

I have to step away for a bit.

I need to generate some clothes to wear to work tomorrow.

#123 leftout

You won't find any opposition to the idea of evolution among sophisticated, educated theologians. It comes from an exceedingly retarded, primitive version of religion, which unfortunately is at present undergoing an epidemic in the United States.

Hello primitive, I'm retarded. Glad to meet ya.

#123 leftout

So, apparently he and many Europeans have no qualms about becoming a post-Christian atheist civilization. I think a hugh vacuum will result into which Islam will flourish like a pathogen set loose in a petry dish.

One would think that they would have lived closely enough to the Iron Curtain countries and the USSR to have taken a lesson in that post-Christianity stuff.

#108

I guess I didn't make the connection apparent enough. Here is another try at my point:

French memorial : Ghetto memorial :: French riots : L.A. Riots

These parallel events give us a glimpse at how much more effectively the our goverment is at achieving calm, and also how how much weaker the anti-government sentiment is here.

Our ghettos make people soft, their's make people soft, then hard.

The French yutes are putting up a fierce resistance.

I’m shocked ya’ll would make fun of those poor youts Zap and Sizzle, they were only trying to empower themselves. Obviously the substation needs to be charged with a hate crime. It’s illuminating to see the surge that everyone is getting out this electrifying tale. Guess I’ll play some AC/DC to honor the latest Darwin award finalists.

I am not surprised by any of this. This is more of the same behavior we saw from last year. As the cars got torched, they French authorities denied that they had a problem. Hundreds, and then thousands of cars a night would be torched.

In comparison to that, only 200 cars a night is nothing. Ignoring the horrendous violence now accompanying the rioting should spur the French law enforcement to take more invasive and proactive steps to stop the rioting - going after the banlieus where the thugs are coming from. These no-go zones have been left in the hands of the thugs - all in the hope of pacifying the situation, but all it does is provide safe havens for the thugs to operate with impunity.

And for the memorial to be within eyeshot of those warning signs (though in retrospect, I don't recall seeing photos that included hazard signs there when the teens were electrocuted), gives new meaning to the term chutzpah.

It is going to happen, isn't it? They are going to destroy one of those museums. Man, I can almost see it happening and not too long from now. This is unreal, but I know it is real.

#45 galloping granny 10/29/2006 04:04PM PST

#27 new_tommy 10/29/2006 03:58PM PST

Anyone got any great French toast recipes? Now would be a good time!

Yes, absolutely. Here you go -

Divine French Toast

Unbelievable! I just got back from grocery shopping and thought about me dear Mum's French toast. I was intent on going online to get a recipe but couldn't help but check LGF.

Low and behold I got some edjumacation on world events plus a French Toast recipe!
Thank you galloping granny
I'm going to make French toast now.

#134 Bordm

Guess I’ll play some AC/DC to honor the latest Darwin award finalists.

Hell's Bells, please!

I'm a rolling thunder, a pouring rain
I'm comin' on like a hurricane
My lightning's flashing across the sky
You're only young but you're gonna die

Well do they even have electricity in the countries where these savages come from ? No wonder the warning signs meant nothing to them...

"Achmed ! What does that curious looking zig-zag line mean ?..."

#136 mollyshark 10/29/2006 04:40PM PST

It is going to happen, isn't it? They are going to destroy one of those museums. Man, I can almost see it happening and not too long from now. This is unreal, but I know it is real.

I don't see the French authorities doing the first thing to stop the madness - and haven't in an entire year. Like they have their heads well buried in the sand. So yeah, probably one of these fine days France is going to explode - and I suspect we're going to see a rerun of the French Revolution. Definitely not PRETTY.

#79 mama winger

His shame at being German, his self-abasement, his hanging of the head, was SO FOREIGN to us as Americans.

That sounds like what the Left is trying to do here in America. Young people are being educated to be ignorant of American history, to see the Founding Fathers as nothing more than slaveowners, etc., etc.

So, apparently he and many Europeans have no qualms about becoming a post-Christian atheist civilization. I think a hugh vacuum will result into which Islam will flourish like a pathogen set loose in a petry dish.

Although I'm sure it's been used before, a perfect analogy. Never before has atheism been what has competed with Islam on its borders. What a peice of cake this makes things. And what a shock it will to be to realize that atheists are dhimmis too.

Bonjour? Comprende vous?
Or:
No comprende? Just a little?
/Mexican Radio, Wall of Voodoo

and if you look at the grafitti scrawled on the big box it says:

France, bend over and take it up the ass like a good little dhimmi.

love,
Islam

#137 leftout 10/29/2006 04:40PM PST

#45 galloping granny 10/29/2006 04:04PM PST

#27 new_tommy 10/29/2006 03:58PM PST

Anyone got any great French toast recipes? Now would be a good time!

Yes, absolutely. Here you go -

Divine French Toast

Unbelievable! I just got back from grocery shopping and thought about me dear Mum's French toast. I was intent on going online to get a recipe but couldn't help but check LGF.

Low and behold I got some edjumacation on world events plus a French Toast recipe!
Thank you galloping granny
I'm going to make French toast now.

Yummy. Make me some. If you've no challah, regular bread is just fine. If you've no fruit then maple syrup is divine.

Clearly the electrical station is to blame for its cultural insensitivity. Those signs didn't have arabic ANYWHERE on them. Furthermore how is someone from a culture that wants to take France back to the stone age supposed to recognize the dangers of electricity?

The answer is simple. Under the coming dhimmitude, the infidels will push big wheels that will generate enough power for all believing men to enjoy at LEAST a 19th century lifestyle.

"How's your French Toast, dear?"
"Smelly and ungrateful. But this AMERICAN Toast is delicious!"

How far are we behind France in our own appeasement? Our media is afraid to print the cartoons. Our media is afraid to call domestic Islamic hate attacks what they are. Our Secretary of State seems to blame Israel for the Palestinians problems, and keeps implying Israel should be sliced in two for a contiguous Palestine. Our media, academia, and public intellectuals all seem to be supporting the opposition in the war in Iraq. And so does one of our two political parties.

#141 rickl 10/29/2006 04:43PM PST

#79 mama winger

His shame at being German, his self-abasement, his hanging of the head, was SO FOREIGN to us as Americans.

That sounds like what the Left is trying to do here in America. Young people are being educated to be ignorant of American history, to see the Founding Fathers as nothing more than slaveowners, etc., etc.

Sure is. Luckily, it is much easier to homeschool in the US than elsewhere in the world. There are currently nearly 3 million future American voters (growing every day) that are being very well educated and taught to be proud of who they are and the Nation from which they come.

#142 Dr. Manhattan

atheists are dhimmis too.

Some of us athiests are fine upstanding citizens.

Substations are the French version of "Shock and Awe."

Seventh century youts vs. 21st century neuclear power. French youts go neuclear!

Well, it looks like the mayor is assuming the correct position in the photo.

Aviator FTW!

/ftw = for the win

#123 leftout

You won't find any opposition to the idea of evolution among sophisticated, educated theologians. It comes from an exceedingly retarded, primitive version of religion

And I'm sure he defines sophisticated, educated theologians as those who don't oppose evolution.

Ditto circular logic on "retarded" and "primitive" opponents.

OT:
Los Alamos confirms that classified materials were among the materials found in the drug raid of a scientist who worked at Los Alamos.

As a result, some work at the lab has been affected, and security measures have been increased.

No criminal charges have been filed in connection with the case, which is being handled by the FBI. A search warrant executed by the agency has been sealed by a judge.

The lab's director, Michael Anastasio, said a former worker is being investigated, but neither the lab nor the FBI would identify the employee.

"While I cannot discuss the details of what we know and don't know about what happened, I can confirm that classified material was found in her residence," Anastasio told lab employees Thursday.

The Washington Post reported Thursday that the former employee had a high-level security clearance.

"This is a very serious matter for all of us," Anastasio said. "We are taking and must continue to take immediate and appropriate action."

Heads should roll, but I doubt that it will mean any significant changes.

At least our home-grown decider only calls islam a Religion of Peace.

#154 Silhouette

Being sophisticated is highly over-rated :0

#155 lawhawk 10/29/2006 04:51PM PST

OT:
Los Alamos confirms that classified materials were among the materials found in the drug raid of a scientist who worked at Los Alamos.

As a result, some work at the lab has been affected, and security measures have been increased.

No criminal charges have been filed in connection with the case, which is being handled by the FBI. A search warrant executed by the agency has been sealed by a judge.

The lab's director, Michael Anastasio, said a former worker is being investigated, but neither the lab nor the FBI would identify the employee.

"While I cannot discuss the details of what we know and don't know about what happened, I can confirm that classified material was found in her residence," Anastasio told lab employees Thursday.

The Washington Post reported Thursday that the former employee had a high-level security clearance.

"This is a very serious matter for all of us," Anastasio said. "We are taking and must continue to take immediate and appropriate action."

Heads should roll, but I doubt that it will mean any significant changes.

You are unfortunately probably correct. This is not the first time that something like this has happened at Los Alamos. Management there got so bad that fairly recently they took bids for new management. Then they instead gave it right back to UCB.

OT and quirky :

I glanced at the BBC headlines and this one caught my eye:

Interim role for Bangladesh head

There's a joke in there somewhere.

#26 mama winger

France is one of the most atheist countries in all of Europe, by numbers and by culture. Often the mere thought that people in America still believe in metaphysical realities is a subject of derision and deeply-felt humor. It is the ideology of the French Enlightment (specifically Rousseau's thesis on the fundamental goodness of man and the evil of society/commerce and also the belief that rationality and science will eventuall solve all human problems) which forms the hardcore of Marxism and the profound reaction against the connection between Western identity and religion, as well as nationalism.

Here is my favorite book on the subject; it's short, well-documented and well-written: The Cube and the Cathedral: Europe, America, and Politics Without God . I keep it right here next to me at my desk.

#151 new_tommy

Substations are the French version of "Shock and Awe Awww."

Fixed.

Future French public awareness campaign:

Drinking and driving don't mix. Neither do Muslims and electricity. Friends don't let friends hide in substations.

Dear President Chirac,

I understand you're having a problem with violent uprisings in some of your poorer neighborhoods. Perhaps I can help, as I've had some experience in this area myself.

Here's a clue: Think Warsaw.

Sincerely,
Jürgen Stroop

Knock knock
Who's there?
Islam
I give up!

OT
Hello LGF,
AM Mora y Leon of Publius Pundit has a good report on more Indymedia at today's Moonbat rally in Hollywood.

(All Indy photogs were safe there)

I'ts really no suprise that those that want to live in the 7th centuy don't understand the dangers o electricity:)

Here is a candidate for some photoshopping.

How about making sure this never happens again.

Disconnect all the electricity from the area. Let them live in the middle ages that they love so much.

Noam, the French will keep appeasing Muslims until it hertz.

#160 pimf: "Enlightenment"

I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you about you infidels making light of two yutes and their heroic resistance.

I'm alternating between ground and hot about it.

OT: Fun and Sun in the Magic Kingdom...
Saudis push for high-end tourists to visit Mecca

The Supreme Commission of Tourism (SCT) said earlier this year that tourist visas would be granted to foreigners for the first time (Are Jews still banned? - ed). It licensed 18 tour operators to issue the visas, abolishing a long-standing requirement for a Saudi resident to sponsor those wishing to enter the country.

But make no mistake: alcohol will remain banned, women will have to cover from head to toe and Muslims alone can set foot in the Islamic holy cities of Mecca and Medina.

"We are shooting for high-end individuals, there won't be any mass tourism here. We target people who like Saudi Arabia for what it is, people who will like the experience and hopefully come back again and again," said SCT spokesman Majid al-Shiddi.

Sounds like fun, eh? Anyone calling their travel agent?

#160 Yank

Thank you for the book recommendation. I am always on the lookout for a good one.

As a Christian, I have a certain bias. But I think when the Judeo-Christian God is erased from a culture, something else will creep in. In all my studies, that 'something else' has never been a step up.

If someone can prove otherwise, I'd be glad to hear it.

149 granny. Add the number of kids at private Christian schools too...that's where my kids are. I haven't even caught a wiff of Anti-Americanism in any of the schools my kids have attended.

#158 galloping granny
#155 lawhawk

I'm not sure what to make of the Los Alamos incident yet. Yes, it is bad when classified document go out. But scientists sometimes aren't that great with security, or there may be confusion on what can leave and what can't. I haven't seen enough to decide if this was treason or sloppy security.

That being said, there are many reasons for treason, but they seem to mostly fall under idealism, greed, or blackmail. And a drug user would be a prime candidate for two of the three, at least.

#147 Luigi
How far are we behind France in our own appeasement?

France is much closer to their tipping point than we are to ours.

France currently serves as a blueprint to counter the spread of ::ahem:: militant Islam. Specifically, a blueprint of what doesn't work.

How do we support the memorial to those murdered by the rioters?

3 Mountain Soldier. I'm afraid to even consider it, because if it was a non-white, the answer might be yes.

I suspect that this tragedy is the result of those Ionists

#147 Luigi 10/29/2006 04:48PM PST
How far are we behind France in our own appeasement? Our media is afraid to print the cartoons. Our media is afraid to call domestic Islamic hate attacks what they are. Our Secretary of State seems to blame Israel for the Palestinians problems, and keeps implying Israel should be sliced in two for a contiguous Palestine. Our media, academia, and public intellectuals all seem to be supporting the opposition in the war in Iraq. And so does one of our two political parties.

And, in Minnesota, in 9 days (barring some kind of miracle), a Nation of Islam/CAIR/ sock puppet, Keith Ellison will be elected to the United States House of Representatives (with the endorsement of the local Jewish political establishment and glowing approval of the establishment media)

#170 DesertSage

Nice one!

Remind the last frog thrown out of his former country to bring some Chateau Lafitte for the Islamic wine, brie and beheading party.

You know, if the US media paid as much attention to the constant rioting in the Paris surburbs, they might be able to make it look just as violent as Baghdad.

After all, we've got firebombings, rioting, and law enforcement under constant harassment and taking fire from the thugs who are graduating from rocks to firebombs.

Europe is now built upon an oath: Never again. Never again extermination, never again war, but also never again nationalism. Europe prides itself in being nothing.

Europe is the Seinfeld of landmasses:

"It's a continent about nothing."

#173 KT

I think I'd pay not to go.

#170 DesertSage

Noam, the French will keep appeasing Muslims until it hertz.

Lol!

#180 Shug

I suspect that this tragedy is the result of those Ionists

Lol! Too funny. Reminds me of Bunglawala's comment. To paraphrase: "Methinks some Ionists are up to mischief."

136 mollyshark. destroying a large museum might actually shock the fwench leadership into action. That's only might

#176 silhouette:

I agree that we don't know what criminal acts were committed here. Slopping security is the minimum. It remains to be seen whether it was stupidity or went into the passing of information to third parties, which could include treason.

#181 Trumanite
I hope this is the double edged sword Minnesota needs to see the light. That voting straight Dem like your parents did is not necessarily a good thing. This Keith guy will step on his own dick if elected and highlight the bad of the multi culti left.

No one considered slipping a very small plaque onto this memorial saying, "Consider it as evolution in action"?

Or, better yet, "The guilty flee when no one pursueth"?

It almost makes me root for the jihadists in France. The French have truly earned their destruction. Fuck'em.

#187 new_tommy
#170 DesertSage

Noam, the French will keep appeasing Muslims until it hertz.

Lol!

#180 Shug

I suspect that this tragedy is the result of those Ionists

Lol! Too funny. Reminds me of Bunglawala's comment. To paraphrase: "Methinks some Ionists are up to mischief."

The jouuules

#176 Silhouette 10/29/2006 05:05PM PST

#158 galloping granny
#155 lawhawk

I'm not sure what to make of the Los Alamos incident yet. Yes, it is bad when classified document go out. But scientists sometimes aren't that great with security, or there may be confusion on what can leave and what can't. I haven't seen enough to decide if this was treason or sloppy security.

As a scientist myself, one with years of training who has worked for the federal government, I can assure you of a couple of things here:

1.) All scientists are extremely well aware of security. We work with patient records - loss of license & huge lawsuits if they are "mislaid" - things that will kill you if mishandled - trade secrets that will cost us our sometimes very well paid jobs - or at the very least, we perform independent research that we guard to the nines, because that information is what will build our reputation and buy us that primo position and the competition can be intense.

2.) There is absolutely NO confusion about what information can leave a US facility where nuclear work is performed. Each and every new employee signs a detailed statement acknowleging the security rules. They are reminded periodically. And the level of what can be physically removed from the facilityis fairly close to zero.

3.) ALL federal employees are subject to drug testing on demand without prior notice. This rarely happens to most, but is pretty common in certain fields.

That said, I'm not sure what to make of it myself, given that the female employee's house was being used as a drug lab...

Since most French seem to be non-believers, perhaps this saying is true after all:

There is no hell, there is only France.

#174 mama winger

This book is a real good one: one of those that is clearly written, but is challenging in its serious thinking. The author is taking on the European views of the world today in deep and direct ways (philosophically, politically and religiously), and his perspective is as a conservative, pro-American Catholic who loves America's religiosity, which in all honesty finds its strength in American Evangelicals.

The families in America who teach their children certain values that are grounded in religion as well as the importance of faith itself, despite the onslaught of secularism from the universities to liberal culture, form the backbone of America. Without this backbone, I don't think we would have the will as a country to keep fighting for what is right and good. God bless those amazing mothers and fathers.

Is the French officer getting sanctioned kinda like where a mexican comes over the border illegaly, a border guard shoots him, and then the guard goes to jail for murder? What is going on in the world, jeez..., ummm, a couple border guards DID go to jail a couple weeks ago shooting an illegal...

OT

In other news...looks like no Iranian chicks will take part in the Doha Olympic Karate event.

They want to wear their head scarves while fighting.

#142 Dr. Manhattan
I didn't mean to scare you off, we'll tangle here from time to time. It's all good.

#199 K T

we'll tangle here from time to time. It's all good.

You mean like this?

[Link: www.hondasohc.co.uk...]

"Oh, yowwwch, excuse me, is my EYE bothering your BAYONET?"

I used to work for a major Utility here in the California: Substations are definitely a place you do NOT mess around in.

I DO NOT CARE what pagan moon god you pray to: if you touch the wrong thing, you will be vaporized.

Those that go into substations univited have my highest contempt.

I'm an educated, trained professional and even I treaded there with trepidation.

~Norsk Troll

#193 shug

Lol. This was no accident. The Vast Ionist Conspiracy™ led by the Joules killed these poor boys.

I think this story has been run to the ground.

Watt's the matter with the 'youts' in Fwance today?

My head hertz to just think about it.

;)

~Norsk Troll

#200 mama winger
Something like that, yet not quite as sexy.

Can you catch a whiff of the dhimmitude in the air over France?

Ionic Breeze.

Kinda' OT

Here's a TV reporter who gets shocked w/ 6,000 volts.

Dummy.

190 x-ray 10/29/2006 05:15PM PST
#181 Trumanite
I hope this is the double edged sword Minnesota needs to see the light.

This Keith guy will step on his own dick if elected and highlight the bad of the multi culti left.

This isn't just a Minnesota issue, though the whole country will have to pay the price for their insanity. This is not just a city council seat, it's the U.S. Congress.

He's already stepped on his own dick repeatedly.

If you go to Powerline and do a search on Keith Ellison, it's all there (public, on-the-record support for cop killer gang members and Kathleen Soliah/Sara Jane Olson, pictures of him handing out the NOI newspaper, on-the-record calling Jews "the most racist white people").

All these facts are known (and there's much more). They aren't secrets. They're easy to confirm.

It's all been whitewashed, covered up, lied about and rationalized by the Democrat party and the press.

And, it's not just liberals ignoring it.

Rush Limbaugh, nothing
The Fox "All-Stars" (Krauthamer, Kristol, Barnes), nothing, nothing and nothing
Most "righty" blogs, nothing (Powerline and LGF excepted)

Will it be any different after he's already taken office, been given committee assignments, has access to secret government information?

Guess we'll see.

Damn. That's all I have to say.

When the Saints French Toast Go Charging It

When the saints charging it
When the saints go charging it
Allah, how I want to be in that substation
When the saints go charging it

'Last year’s French riots were triggered by the deaths of two “youths,” who fled a police ID check, broke into an electrical substation to hide, and were electrocuted when they touched something they shouldn’t have.'

. Last year an attempt was made to interfere with an orderly transfer of power in France.

Two Muslim youths were charged.

I notice the story is no longer available at the link provided.

#212 new-tommy: uhm, sentiments are right on, but ... uhm, your METER needs some polishing, Bud!

#209 Brick...

I watched that idiot touch the 6,000 volt fence for TV...

EXTREMELY lucky he did it with his RIGHT hand, for had he done it with his left, the current would have polarized the Bundle of Hiss, a bundle of fiber-nerves which KEEP THE HEART BEATING, and they wouldn't have!

Wotta moron!

#196 Yank in the EU 10/29/2006 05:23PM PST

Thanks for the reading reference Yank.
A contradistinct view from that of your reference is put forward by the likes of Richard Dawkins to whom I linked above.

It's interesting to see the complete absolutist assertions that this scientist makes about things that are outside the realm of science.

I think the atheistic view he articulates is one which many, possibly most, Europeans are in agreement.

To quote Chuck D:

I'm ready and hyped plus I'm amped

...The crowd gathered in silent prayer wearing t-shirts with the slogan “Dead for nothing”...

They are correct. The "youths" died for nothing. IF they hadn't fled a police checkpoint. IF they hadn't fled from pursueing oficers. IF they hadn't jumped a fence onto government property (electrical substation). IF they could read the language of the country they had adopted. IF they had paid attention to the not so little glow in the dark warnings markers. Then, they would not have died. Period.

Socialist mayor of Clichy-sous-Bois in the northeast Paris suburb, Claude Dilain is just a pitiful picture of appeasement. I wonder if his ancestors worked for the Vichy government during WWII? That is just sucking up (or is it down?) of the worst kind. Anyone else in another part of the world would be feeling humiliated putting full wreaths as a memorial to a couple of stupid wannabe felons and treating it with as much respect as you treat your own war dead.

Well, I got a 404 the first time I tried the link. It's ok now. Never mind, if you were minding, which I'm sure you weren't.

#217 leftout

Thanks for the good link ;)

It's interesting to see the complete absolutist assertions that this scientist makes about things that are outside the realm of science.

Well said - that's the kernal right there. If one takes on the Dawkins world view in utter honesty, one must remain totally silent on the most central and vital questions of philosophy and morality. That's not a respectful silence of wonder and mystery, but rather one of sheer nothingness, at, for example, the phenomena of human freedom and spontaneous rationality of the human soul.

Another worthy opponent to the values system(s) based in the Judeo-Christian one is Sam Harris, a particularly honest man in that he admitted that without Christianity there is no way America would have the courage to go to war and try to win against radical Islam. That is, our values systems would dissolve into Marxist and nihilist views of why our culture is worth defending. Moreover, Islam fills very effectively the vacuum in spirituality left by secular humanism. Harris admits all this, but still is one of the most fervent warriors against all religiosity.

To me, the greatness of America as a religious nation and the importance of moral values, which are ultimately grounded in God, should give the open-minded person a strong indication towards the importance of real faith in people's lives and in a nation's survival.

210 Trumanite. It's frustrating, isn't it? Instead (?) of focusing in Ellison Rush steps on his dick attacking Michael J Fox for falling for faith healers (that's what I call the stem cell research crowd).

He should have spent 2 minutes talking about how awful it is that democrats lie to sick people like Mr. Fox to get them to run partisan ads, and maybe done a silly Benny Hinn parody using stem cell researchers as the "Amen chorus" or something.

Instead he gets to spend a whole week on his spat with an actor.

Bill Bennett has talked about Ellison and had the powerline blog guys on his show Morning in America. I heard one of those segments. Bennett is very good on his show.

They should open a fried chicken restaurant where the stupid thugs got themselves killed.

Would have been a good time to use a daisy cutter!

France has surrendered, we just need to get their nukes before the jihadis take over those too.

#167 New_Tommy

"candidate for some photoshoppping"

Like this?

If this doesn't cement the French as the most gutless bastards in the history of oxygen, nothing will.

You can't hire a batallion of fiction writers to come up with cowardice of this magnitude.

The French will go down in history as the biggest collection of spineless simps in human history.

577 members in the French National Assembly yet there is not one single black person, nor even one of Arabic descent. Isn't that just a bit odd? France preaches multiculturism, but French leadership is 100% lily white.

I think this embarrassing statistic goes a long way explaining why French politicians are big on grandstanding and sucking up to their immigrant underclass.

I compare the situation to Uncle Scar and the hyenas in "The Lion King". We know how the movie ended. And we're watching the sequel unfold in real life in France right now.

I await NhaTran72's appearance.

He often graces us to inform us of the courage of the French.

Or to just insult me.

One of the two.

Too bad asbestos has gone the way of organized religion - demonized for its very functionality. Someone could make a fortune creating asbestos wraps for French vehicles :) ..

Meanwhile, no one does meaningless appeasement ceremony quite as well as the French.

#225 Shiplord Kirel

I'm moved to tears by your touching tribute to the Saints French Toast. It was, in some strange and inexplicable way, electrifying also.

new_tommy

Many thanks. In my never-ending quest to ensure proper remembrance of current martyrs, I have created an alternate version, one more direct in its appeal.

[bigoted word]s, Nazis, either way the French will surrender.

“It’s not by restricting them, or leaving them at home, or stopping them from going out - that’s not a solution,” said Zyed’s father. “The solution is to find them jobs, create training centres.”

No the solution is for them to get skills that would make an employer wnat to hire them.

A serious note:

Let this be a warning to us all about the dangers of unrestricted immigration and multiculturalism. If America happened to be located just north of a Muslim country, this could easily be a scene from the United States.

We have seen just how far Democrats (and even many Republicans) will go to pander to Hispanic immigrants, legal or otherwise. The fact that illegal immigrants feel comfortable marching through our streets en masse to make demands of our government is already a sign of how far we've lost control over our borders and our society.

Just like the French, by the time we realize the full extent of the problem, it may be too late: our politicians will already be in bed with these people and there will be no political will to do anything but pretend there are no problems other than the ones created by insufficient sympathy for the immigrants and their descendants.

every french generation needs to know how it feels to lose a war ,to get closer to fwench roots and tradition, something like a bar-mitsva , and because there is no war for them right now, at least they ignore the real wars today, this is as close as it gets ...

I think this says it best,

All European Life Died In Auschwitz by Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez

I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a terrible truth -- Europe died in Auschwitz.
We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.
The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world.
These are the people we burned.
And under the pretence of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.
They have turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime. Holed up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.
And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition. We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for hoping for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.
What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.

Europe rejected Christ, Killed its Jews, and Imported Muslims.

Who says God doesn't have a sense of humor?
(Or justice for that matter?)

SACRE BLEU!
Un-ho-leee 'effin crap.

Does it get any crazier than this?

Well does it?

Socialist mayor of Clichy-sous-Bois in the northeast Paris suburb, Claude Dilain(C), lays a wreath at the entrance of an electrical sub-station where two teenagers, both of immigrant background, were accidentally electrocuted as they hid from the police a year ago.(AFP/Dominique Faget)

Bent over, no less.

And I supress a chuckle at the name of the reporter, Dominique (who is a man) Faget.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

p.s. Don't lecture me on pronunciation, Frenchie!

#236-

On my darker days, I tend to think the ultimate, most horrific source of evil is in this impulse: the preference to have a jackboot stamping on your face, forever, than to acknowledge in even one small way that there might be a better way, and that someone else might be trying to live it.

Thus, the person destroys all that is noble and good and beautiful around them, and surrounds themself in banality and evil and filth, just so that they can sanctimoniously declare to themself "I am better than this," merely because they *don't* have any power to inflict want and suffering on others anymore, and thus, don't.

If only the west would spend $500 billion on nuclear fusion research instead of on a losing war over oil, we wouldn't have to appease the middle east. At least France has the ITER, so maybe the appeasement is temporary.

Notice the warning signs all over that equipment.

Those warning signs probably only help if you can speech french. Maybe they should have taken the time to learn.

"One person with a belief is equal to a force of 99 who have only interests."
John Stuart Mills

This explains both of our enemies. The L3's (who have only interests)and the Islamofacists (who have a "belief").

It still adds up to 100 percent against US.

We need to get our moral compass in order and ASAP.

Vote, but still stock up on ammo.
I'm not sure I'm on the right thread?

Socialist or no socialist, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this Mayor deep down thought these two youths were scum.

But the demands of political correctness, where making the right noises and gestures are all important, means he has to play along with the ridiculous charade.

...He’s also probably shit scared of being beaten half to death by the RoPers.

#239

If I understaqnd you properly, You seem to be saying that our enemy is too prideful to admit that others just may have a better way of life, but their pride will not allow them to admit it. They are filled with rage and hate because of their inability to both admit their shortcomings and their ipotence to create anything better to countervail what they see around them i.e. the superiority of the culture and acheivements of the filthy kuffar.