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Wed, Nov 1, 2006 at 4:38:23 pm PST

Here’s the complete statement at Kerry’s web site, including the weasel words about “the Republican Party” most media are not quoting: JohnKerry.com - Press Releases.

Statement of Senator John Kerry

As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop.

I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.

It is clear the Republican Party would rather talk about anything but their failed security policy. I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues. I will continue to fight for a change of course to provide real security for our country, and a winning strategy for our troops.

Quite a few people seem willing to accept this at face value, and believe that Kerry really didn’t mean any insult to the troops—that he misspoke. Or botched a joke. Or something.

But over here in the subterranean chamber beneath Denver Airport, my Acme BS Detector is going insane. I haven’t seen readings like this since Rathergate.

I don’t believe this for one nanosecond. Kerry was preaching to the choir, playing to a very definite anti-military sentiment that absolutely does exist among the angry left-wing nut jobs who seem to be controlling the Democrat base, and he just happened to get caught this time. His latest statement doesn’t exist in a vacuum, as many have pointed out; Kerry has a long history of saying outrageous things about US soldiers.

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1 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:40:16pm

Keep on talkin'John.

2 Muadib  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:40:42pm

Hogwash.

3 John Schneider  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:41:24pm

Kerry's a putz. I'm so glad I didn't vote for this moron.

4 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:41:46pm

John Kerry is older than I am, which hopefully means he will die before I do. When that happens, I am going to locate his grave, consume massive amounts of alcohol, hold my bladder for a really long time, and then stand over his mound of dirt and let 'er rip.

Any questions?

5 California Observer  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:42:32pm

if the speech was written and there's a way to track the original, that may solve the issue. otherwise, we'll never know what he intended to say.

6 pat  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:42:37pm

Botched Apology.

7 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:42:44pm

The "botched joke" line is even more insulting.

8 NoSubmission  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:42:48pm

He wasn't joking.

9 Tokyobk  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:43:01pm

His whole pre-campaign (meaning what he started right after Viet Nam) was about smearing soldiers.

Kerry. F you. Thanks for all of your honest moments. Keeping saying things you really mean and shouldn't say.

10 pjcomix  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:43:02pm

John Kerry's Trick turned into a GOP Treat.

John Kerry's Halloween Surprise

11 kathyn  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:43:15pm
As a combat veteran

John "why the long face" Kerry has a lot of nerve saying that. He's trying to make it sound like he's a comrade-in-arms with other war vets. He should take Imus's advice and quit talking...period.

12 UFO TOFU  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:44:23pm
I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues.


That says it all.

13 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:45:34pm

#4 mama winger

But, but, but how do you really feel? C'mon, share with us. Don't hold it inside.

14 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:45:59pm
His latest statement doesn’t exist in a vacuum, as many have pointed out; Kerry has a long history of saying outrageous things about US soldiers.

Damn right, Charles. Anyone who remembers seeing his sorry puss on TV during the VietNam war knows what a rancid pus-like substance this sorry excuse for half a man is.

15 eon  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:46:05pm

And the worst part is, the MSM will regard this as the closure of the whole business (and you know how they love that word- almost as much as they love "gravitas"). So they can get back to the serious business of the nation- namely, helping the Democrats seize control of Congress in the name of Truth, Justice, and the Taliban Way.

The thing I wonder about is, how is this playing with the Koslings?

cheers

eon

16 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:47:22pm

#13 Mandy

My shrink told me the same thing. This is good practice, eh?

17 beens21  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:48:36pm

in my profession, I can tell you that 'a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest'.

18 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:49:53pm
I sincerely regret am sorry that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about you knuckle-dragging, slack-jawed, unwashed cavemen can not understand the subtle nuances in my orification - that means, 'the way I talk.'

I think that's what he's saying.

19 Silhouette  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:50:50pm

Statement of Senator John Kerry

(I served in Vietnam.)

(It's your fault for misunderstanding me, not mine, and I'm sorry YOU messed up.)

(Hey, look over there!)

20 SlothB77  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:50:50pm

what will the dems do with him after he blows the second election for them? will they throw him overboard or just send him to mollify the wacko fringe netroots crowd?

21 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:50:51pm

Charles is right. He was playing to the anti-military crowd, like this buffoon who just posted on his blog:

Young people fortunate enough to have financial support, loving parents, and education and job prospects are not likely to wind up in the armed forces. It is a destination of last resort, and you know it.

22 Luigi  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:51:26pm

Of course he meant what he said. And he meant what he said during the Vietnam War when he said Americans soldiers raped and pillaged and cut off ears, and he meant what he said when he accused American in Iraq of about the same thing.

I was in the Left during the Vietnam War and we wanted America to lose. We wanted America to lose. The Left still wants America to lose. They haven't changed. The only difference is they know they had better not tell the truth about what they believe or practically no one will vote for them.

23 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:51:58pm

So now the Armed Forces are just for the dead-enders, eh Johnny boy?

24 new_tommy  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:52:27pm

I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.

In other words, I'm sorry you guys misinterpreted me even though my excuse is that I misread the "joke." This is an apology?

For now on when I say "John F'n Kerry" I really mean "FUBAR." Don't misinterpret me!

25 kathyn  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:52:46pm

Fox News said that a lot of the media aren't covering the JFKerry debacle at all. Is this true?

26 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:53:19pm

Someday I am going to remove that jawbone from his hound dog face and wipe my ass with it.

Put down the wine bottle mama.

27 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:53:20pm

#4 Mama Winger

I have two questions.

1) May we join you?

2) Do you have a link to that Cafe Press site where you found that fab bumper sticker?
"My Soldier Is Smarter Than John Kerry"

28 muman  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:53:36pm

Personally I am already tired of this story. There is less than a week to the elections and this is all the media can do... This is a waste of my time, and I wish there was more news than Kerry said this and Bush said this and Kerry apologized for this .

This kind of media is indicative of a grave problem in our society. This problem is that the American people don't have the mental ability to keep up with the real issues. The Democrats are not putting forth a plan and relying on the 'hate factor' to gain their power. I believe the Democrats don't even have a plan, and are just lucky that they end up in the position they are in. The Republicans don't want to call attention to the unpopular war in Iraq, and the other issues {including immigration} are too dangerous to discuss before this midterm election... So we are stuck with namecalling innuendo and false indignation. What has happened to this once great nation? Why have we fallen so low?

I have many ideas why this is so... Because our society has cast off the religioun of our parents and questioned the morality of generations. When this happens there is no such thing as morality, no such thing as RIGHT OR WRONG. The Gay Agenda is taking this and running with it... Without morality, without religious conviction, who is to say that homosexual relationships are wrong? The only measure of GOOD/EVIL comes from the Torah.

I hope that we survive this election and do some soul searching. I can't see the USA lasting much longer into this millenium without some major changes. We are sinking into a quagmire of immorality and disease. I still have a modicum of hope, and only G-d keeps that hope alive...

Michael U

29 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:54:42pm

#27 Frog March

Yes
and
Yes

Let me find it for you. bb

30 rightwinger3  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:55:06pm
As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: John Kerry is a f'ckin' piece of shit and should not be trusted to tell the truth.

It is clear the Democrat Party would rather talk about anything but John Kerry and his "verbal slip". It's not a diversion from the real issues. It's the truth as he sees it. The Republicans provide real security for our country, and a winning strategy for our troops.

Fixed it.

31 MoonbatBane  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:55:09pm
Quite a few people seem willing to accept this at face value, and believe that Kerry really didn’t mean any insult to the troops—that he misspoke or botched a joke.

I don’t believe it. He was preaching to the choir, playing to a very definite anti-military sentiment that absolutely does exist among the angry left-wing nut jobs who seem to be controlling the Democrat base, and he just happened to get caught this time. His latest statement doesn’t exist in a vacuum, as many have pointed out; Kerry has a long history of saying outrageous things about US soldiers.

Well, gee, Charles, you sure didn't leave a lot for us to say in the comments. /snark

Seriously, you are dead on here.

32 DockScience  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:55:11pm

If only we could get more lib-Dems to speak what they REALLY believe.

Even Pelosi would be back in Ca picking out new drapes for the mansion.

33 Bubbaman  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:55:35pm

I came across this year-old video of Johnnie on you tube - worth a couple of laughs.

34 HeatherRadish  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:55:41pm

Even if it was a "botched joke" it's still just the usual "Bush is teh stupid" line they all trot out when they want applause.

Wow. That's some killer commentary on the future of our nation. Or something.

35 Tokyobk  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:56:10pm

I am sure this has been posted already. Lizards being fast like that. But in case somebody missed some smart humor from our Heroes.

36 jlfintx  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:57:06pm

I will never believe anything this gasbag says. He lost any support from me a long, long time ago. Matter of fact, I would have never supported him after what he did back in the 70's.

37 rqballjohn  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:57:18pm

If a democrat makes a bad statement the media goes out of the way to dismiss it. Watch as the msm will run the apology and try to drop the matter and bring up something that an 'evil' republican - said, did, thought, or what they need to invent to distract attention.

point 2- he is complaining about not discussing the issues, yet they are the ones digging up personal info to drag through the mud. Do they want to discuss terrorism, oil dependency, the failing education system, social security solvency? no, bring up those subjects and they go to personal attacks - as in - bush lied or only they are the enlighten ones to save the world.

I could have been first if I could learn to type with more than one finger.

38 mingjaiyo  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:57:39pm

There is no acceptable rationalization for this pukes statements.If,as some speculated on all the news stations,that he was tired,all I can say is that at moments of being less than 100 percent is when people often slip their most closely held beliefs.This SOB has been deriding members of the US Military for his entire life.He was obsessed with being the next JFK,even replicating joining up to volunteer to be on the closest thing to PT-109 that the Navy offered during Vietnam.Carrying the camera,reenacting scenes...all part of the mission objective...be the next JFK.Three suspiciously received Purple Hearts and out in three months;absolutely disgraceful.And then to turn around on arriving back in the States and disparage the very men with whom he served at the infamous "Winter Soldier" hearings,capping it off with the "medals" over the wall fiasco.sKerry was speaking what has resided deep in that very average yet extremely convoluted mind of his for many,many years.He has offered no true apology to those among us that have worn the uniform of the US Military.He is a walking offense to anyone who has worn the uniform or truly supports the troops.He is a disgrace to the uniform and caught in a moment when his guard was down,uttered his true beliefs.As said in a previous thread,the only positive for me in this situation is that I believe that the man has successfully Mr.Murphy'd himself out of ever achieving that long held mission objective fantasy of becoming POTUS.

39 jlfintx  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:58:29pm

#35 You may want to look at the other threads (just the titles would do) before you post next time!

40 Cartman  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:58:45pm

The frantic and Herculean efforts by the DNC and their fraternal twin the MSM to get this swept under the rug is amazing, but is no surprise.

41 Prester John  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:58:46pm

From the Boston Herald:

True to form, Kerry blames others for gaffe

The most amazing thing about John Kerry is that anyone with half a brain would still take him half as seriously as he obviously takes himself.

http://news.bostonherald.com/columnists/view.bg?ar ticleid=165167

42 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:58:51pm

FROGMARCH and enyone else interested-

Here is the link to "My Soldier is Smarter Than John Kerry" bumper sticker:

[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

43 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:59:40pm

# 20 SlothB77

what will the dems do with him after he blows the second election for them? will they throw him overboard or just send him to mollify the wacko fringe netroots crowd?


Probably something like this:

Senator John Kerry, who after losing the 2004 election was purged and declared "non-person" by Communists For Kerry (CFK), may now be at large again.


Or perhaps this:

It is our sad duty to report that Komrad Kerry has been purged for failing the revolution. He has been advised to take a self-criticism session involving a personal sidearm. We will remember him in our hearts as our most expendable apparatchik.


Being PURGED just has to suck.

44 right wing zephyr  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 2:59:47pm
I don’t believe it. He was preaching to the choir, playing to a very definite anti-military sentiment that absolutely does exist among the angry left-wing nut jobs who seem to be controlling the Democrat base, and he just happened to get caught this time. His latest statement doesn’t exist in a vacuum, as many have pointed out; Kerry has a long history of saying outrageous things about US soldiers.

Exactly right.

What a a friggin tool. We should all be ashamed that this slime came within a sneeze of becoming the President of the United States of America.


Once again, this will be decided not at the polls, but on the fields.

45 Nancy  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:00:05pm

As I and others mentioned in the other thread that is no apology.

He rests the blame on the listeners for "misinterpreting" and doesn't even admit that what he said was wrong and it wasn't even funny as a "joke."

There was no misinterpretation of what he said. Added to his insulting the troops for being uneducated, now the thousands of people who heard him say that and read what he said are inferior as well for misinterpreting.

46 dead sea squirrel  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:00:06pm

Obviously it was NOT a botched joke. Why would Kerry make a joke implying that Bush was poorly educated? They can say Bush is stupid or uses poor judgment or whatever (that's par for the course), but it makes no sense to joke that he's poorly educated, especially coming from a fellow Yaley like Kerry.

47 freedom rings  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:00:33pm

gar-bahge, totally

OT: Attention Floridians:

Russert moderates debate between Katherin Harris (R) & Bill Nelson (D) --FL Senate race. MSNBC at 10 pm EST.

Nelson is favored to win the election, but I would so love to see Harris win. (She certified the vote for Bush as Sec. of State in 2000.) That would drive the lefties totally nutso. *sigh*

48 right wing zephyr  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:01:00pm

Anyone whose read "Unfit for Command" knew this turd before the 04 election.

49 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:01:06pm
#25 kathyn 11/1/2006 04:52PM PST

Fox News said that a lot of the media aren't covering the JFKerry debacle at all. Is this true?

See here for example

For the most part, the mainstream media (newspapers, anyway) are resolutely refusing to be thrown off message by John Kerry's series of gaffes. The New York Times, for example, headlines As Vote Nears, Stances on War Set Off Sparks. The Times leads, not with Kerry's statement, but with President Bush's criticism of it, and frames the story as being primarily about the President and the war. You have to read deep into the Times's article to discover what it was that Bush criticized.

The Washington Post buried the story on page A8. It, too, framed the story as being mainly about the President; its headline is Bush Calls Kerry Remarks Insulting to U.S. Troops. In the Post, at least you don't have to read to the end of the story to find out what "Kerry's remarks" were. But both papers spend more space on the unpopularity of the war and on how well Democrats are doing this election cycle than on Kerry's gaffe and the outrage it has provoked.

The Minneapolis Star Tribune's coverage is more straightforward; it recounts Kerry's comment and the reaction to it without surrounding the story with spin. But the Strib buries its one paragraph of coverage deep inside the paper, as the lead item in a column titled "Iraq Developments."

The liberal press has a story line for this election, and John Kerry's exposing how the left really feels about the military isn't it. This story illustrates, I think, the rift between this country's two media cultures.

Much of the rest of the media predictably said everyone is "attacking" Kerry.

50 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:01:44pm

42 Mama Winger

Thanks!

51 Dave the.....  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:02:23pm

I have to put the link here one more time as it was changed. Here is the deal with the Minnesota unit on the photo. Click on the photo to get a good detail look at it.

[Link: www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com...]

Scroll up if it opens to the comments.

52 Luigi  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:02:38pm
NEW YORK, NY -- (MARKET WIRE) -- November 01, 2006 -- Nielsen//NetRatings (NASDAQ: NTRT), a global leader in Internet media and market research, announced today that 36.6 percent of U.S. adults online are Republicans, 30.8 percent are Democrats and 17.3 percent are Independents.

[Link: www.marketwire.com...] (Scroll down for tabular data.)

I think conservatives hit the internet more because the newspapers and television do not tell you what is going on in the world.

53 new_tommy  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:02:53pm

How to use John F'n Kerry in conversation:

Example 1:

"John F'n Kerry! Olberdouche just opened his sanctimonious mouth again."

Example 2:

"The dog just shit on the carpet. John F'n Kerry!"

Example 3:

"Oh! John F'n Kerry! The ATM is out of order. I'll have to go elsewhere."

54 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:02:54pm

*looks around for Killgore Trout*

Just in case he won't be checking in tonight, I thought I'd step over to the fever swamps and see what's up at Kos.

It seems some of them are not happy with sKerry, either.


Great news regarding John Kerry

Adversity certainly does bring opportunity. We've got G. W. Bush and the mess he has created because the Democratic Party, let [sic] by extremists, nominated this moron Kerry to run for President. That mistake is not very likely again.

Hey Kerry, climb back into your wife's trust fund chest (that wasn't subject to the estate taxes you want us to pay). But this time, DON'T COME OUT!

What an IDIOT!

55 kathyn  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:03:10pm

#49 Jammie...thanks. Now, I gotta go for the evening. Nite all.

56 solomonpanting  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:03:17pm
I will continue to fight for a change of course to provide real security for our country,

He can start by resigning.

57 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:03:24pm
4 mama winger 11/1/2006 04:41PM PST

John Kerry is older than I am, which hopefully means he will die before I do. When that happens, I am going to locate his grave, consume massive amounts of alcohol, hold my bladder for a really long time, and then stand over his mound of dirt and let 'er rip.

Any questions?

No questions. But I recommend a slow waltz.

58 MoonbatBane  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:04:34pm

#35 Tokyobk 11/1/2006 04:56PM PST

I am sure this has been posted already. Lizards being fast like that. But in case somebody missed some smart humor from our Heroes.

Actually there was a full thread on it here.

But that's OK, it was just as funny the second time around!

59 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:04:48pm

#44 right wing zephyr

What a a friggin tool. We should all be ashamed that this slime came within a sneeze of becoming the President of the United States of America.

What is just as scary - if the Demonrats win control of the House, Nancy Pelosi is 3rd in line for succession to the Presidency.

Vote Republican !

60 RedWhiteAndJew  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:05:10pm

I imagine a Republican commercial akin to the insurance commericial featuring cavemen: A dummycrat ad, were sKerry is bathering about some dummy up for election, is played on a TV or public monitor, and a weasel comes weaseling by. The weasel looks at sKerry for a moment, then mutters to himself or a buddy weasel how sKerry is giving weasels a bad name.

Go ahead, Darth Rove. Take this idea with my complements.

61 rightwinger3  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:05:48pm

#41 Prester John

I read the article from the Herald:

Humility, however, is not his strong suit.

Besides being dicks, this is what's wrong with the whole Democrat Party. No humility.

62 Stuck-in-CA  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:06:28pm

Charles-

Quite a few people seem willing to accept this at face value, and believe that Kerry really didn’t mean any insult to the troops—that he misspoke or botched a joke.


No one I know accepts it at face value. His insincere non-apology has no value at all!

63 J.D.  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:06:48pm

#47 freedom rings
I've already voted for Katherine Harris.
You can vote very very early here.

64 religion of bacon  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:07:13pm

I don't think Kerry's going to say any more on the matter, and the news media are probably going to taper off their coverage, whether that's fair or not. We all know what Kerry meant, and that he's a liar, but he's issued his "implausible deniability" statement and now he's probably going to quietly retreat into the shadows until after next Tuesday.

I'm sure that many here will disagree with me, but if the Repubs spend their time between now and the election trying to keep this alive, it will backfire or at least make them look like they have nothing else going for them in this election aside from the fact that Kerry blew it.

65 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:07:16pm

#51 Dave the

Do you know what unit it was? Where are they out of?

I want to leave them all something in my will :)

66 Outrider  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:07:31pm
I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues.

I hate to be the one to tell Sen Kerry the news. Well, no I don't. But, his verbal slip and its underlying meaning and motivations are one of the key issues. The motivations behind his little slip is one of the key distinctions between the liberals and conservatives. His inability and the liberals inability to understand this is one of the very sad issues we are faced with.

67 jrdroll  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:08:06pm

Charles:

All in all, Pasadena seems to be a Chavez-centric town. And a leftist hotbed. No wonder John Forbes Kerry felt he could let his hair down and say what he really thought.

A.M. Mora y Leon 01 11 06


[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

68 J.D.  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:08:41pm

Say...where the heck is the little thingy on the left...whatever it's called.

69 bill-tb  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:10:05pm

Kerry was against apologizing before he was for it.

Kerry has apologized for being an anti-war leftists who hates the military. Didn't say he was ashamed of what he said, just sorry you heard it. He really didn't mean to let the world know that Democrats hate the troops and hate the war. And for that he is sorry, he really didn't mean to screw up the Democrat strategy so bad.

John Kerry spoke the liberal truth, you want more liberal truth, don't vote, you will get plenty of it.

Mr Kerry, here is a news flash just for you, you voted for the Iraq war, you voted to send the troops into battle there, you voted to oust Saddam Hussein, you do not get off the hook, no matter how hard you try. Hindsight does not substitute for wisdom, and second guessing is not a strategy.

Still no Pelosi to be found, she is staying tightly wrapped in the drapes hoping you won't notice.

Apology not accepted

70 Stuck-in-CA  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:10:19pm

I'm a kidder. I know when someone is kidding and when they aren't. He wasn't kidding. He meant what he said. He's just spinning because he let his guard down while preaching to the choir.

71 J.D.  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:10:38pm

#67 jrdroll
Actually, Pasadena isn't too bad in comparison to many areas of California.
Plus, my son is there, and he's worth at least 50 leftwingers.
:D

72 wun wabbit wun  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:12:56pm

Kerry thought he had an audience that would go wild if he slammed the war and the troops...not an accident - but a Kerry Calculation. He is so slimey I cannot believe there is a person in this country who admires him. Sure - you can oppose Bush til the sun goes down but at least choose someone with character to ballyhoo.

73 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:13:00pm
#16 mama winger
#13 Mandy

My shrink told me the same thing. This is good practice, eh?

Excellent practice!

74 Dave the.....  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:13:13pm

Mama Winger. From their web site.

The 1st Brigade of the 34th Infantry Division Brigade Troops Battlion (1/34th BTB) is a Minnesota Army National Guard Battalion headquartered in Stillwater. The 1/34th BTB mission for 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 34th Infantry Division (1/34th BCT) is to perform security and communications. The 1/34th BTB is prepared to support the State of Minnesota with a trained and ready combat force. There are three major units in the 1/34th BTB: Headquarters and Headquarters Company in Stillwater; A Company in Minneapolis; and B Company in Moorhead.

75 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:13:15pm

The apology stinks but it's enough to get the MSM to give up on Jokegate. If he'd done this a few days ago he could have saved the Dems a lot of trouble.

76 retentionguy  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:13:27pm

My wife just made an astute observation... John Kerry's "apology" sounded a lot like the Pope's "apology" to Muslims for his (correct) remarks on Islam. The difference to me is, I still respect the Pope.

77 Mellow Traveller  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:13:40pm

I think I missed what he said before the "botched joke" because as far as I can tell, he wasn't even talking about Bush, he was talking about education.

And then he made his elitist snob Freudian slip.

Can anyone tell me if that perception is inaccurate? Was he criticizing Bush about education policy before the oft run sound bite?

Or was he saying he wasn't going to apologize for what he said about Bush's education policies even though he wasn't even talking about that?

Something is odd about him, I think.

78 Right_Writer  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:13:51pm

Kerry is an arrogant ass--always has been and always will be.

It's amazing that people will actually buy that he was trying to make a joke. It's ridiculous and disgusting.

79 ted  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:13:53pm

Most normal individuals make mistakes; we speak before we think,say things in the heat of the moment, make a bad joke etc.

We learn, apologize and in the future be extra careful before we speak:

But not John Kerry.

Some claim he was "misunderstood" "joking"
"misinterpreted" etc.

He's been called elite,smug, condescending etc.

Lets be perfectly clear: John Kerry is a SCUMBAG:
PLAIN AND SIMPLE

He believes in what he said.

He is a vicious, nasty bastard

What he said schocked me, but his response that "John Kerry apologizes to No One" was the ultimate act of a base, depraved human savage

80 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:14:11pm

#68 J.D.

Say...where the heck is the little thingy on the left...whatever it's called.

You mean Kos? Or the "Recent Comments" thingy?

81 AlexMartinez  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:15:10pm

wonder how long befor mrs big fat heinz,not mrs kerry any more files for divorce. lol

82 Dave the.....  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:15:53pm

Kerry did say "you" 8 times in that segment. Never "us" or the "U.S." or anything like that.

Anyone else, even John Murtha, I may buy the botched joke thing.

83 ibu guru  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:16:03pm

Keep talkin', Johnnie me boyo, until the foot in your mouth comes out the other end.

84 solomonpanting  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:16:03pm

I wonder what Kerry's response would have been if, just after making his statement at the college, someone had asked "What do you mean by that, Senator?"

BTW, did you know he served in Vietnam?

85 retentionguy  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:17:00pm

In fact, since I think the Pope really meant what he said in regards to Islam, it only goes to reason that J F'n K really meant what he said about the troops. The comparisons are too coincedental, n'est pas? (J F/n K knows what that means)

86 Clutch  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:17:05pm

#4 mama winger

better be prepared to hold it, there's gonna be a long-a$$ line...

87 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:17:31pm

#54 Noam Sayin'

Good, someone else needs to read those things too. I've been busy the past few days and couldn't keep up with all the Koskidz rantings.

88 J.D.  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:17:57pm

#80 wrenchwench
The recent comments thingy.
Which is there now.

Thanks, Charles.
:D

89 EtNorskTroll  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:17:59pm

(Norsk Troll holds up a ketchup bottle)

Just think, John: In a couple more days, you could have fit in this bottle

heh.

~Norsk Troll

90 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:18:25pm

#74 Dave the

OK - thanks. Now I'm going to look up and see where Stillwater is. The reason I'm asking is that when Little Winger gets back, he will probably transfer up to a seminary prep college in Minnesota. He would then be attached to a NG unit there, while in school. I'm just wondering if he might meet some of these fine folks.

Thanks.

91 retentionguy  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:18:51pm

PIMF, J F'nK

92 Stuck-in-CA  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:19:13pm

38- mingjaiyo

all I can say is that at moments of being less than 100 percent is when people often slip their most closely held beliefs.

The name Mel Gibson comes to mind. And the MSM sure had THAT gaff on their front pages for weeks.

93 Rancher  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:19:54pm

I do think he botched a joke, and any chance in '08. He could have ended the whole firestorm if he had come out and said; "This is what I meant to say and it came out this way”. Thankfully he didn't, he took a page out of Clinton's playbook. The comment on how he wouldn’t apologize to anyone was even dumber than the one that got him in trouble

94 Dave the.....  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:20:57pm

Stillwater is close to the Twin Cities, if that's where the school would be. Otherwise there are lots of Guard and Reserve units in the area.

95 squeegy  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:21:26pm

Oh!--I get it now!

Stuck in Iraq--Haha!


I laughed so hard, my side hurt!

96 easy  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:21:30pm

John DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM! Kerry meant what he said whether he knew it or not.

97 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:21:36pm

#71 J.D.

Fancy meeting you here! :)

That sanctimonious, self-serving joke 'apology' should be required reading. It is just 2004, redux.

And for the Donks? Right now, perhaps putting it in large, red letters might make it easier to read ,but it will not penetrate.

O'Reilly really is getting to me; he seems to be defending him, and someone piped up that this will help Shrillery. Oy!

Hanoi John will be returning with yet another botched statement, I will bet. He makes me gnash my teeth...among other things.

98 ted  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:21:55pm

49 jwf:

Its not that the MSM arent covering it:

They are either trying to downplay it, spin, softball or turn it against Bush with headlines like:

"GWB Attacks Kerry over Remark"

Go to Media Research Center for an excellent summary of how the MSM spins it:

www.mrc.com

99 J.D.  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:22:17pm

#85 solomonpanting
He served in VietNam?
No kiddin'?


/watched the sob

100 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:22:20pm

Mama, Stillwater is a quaint, little village about 15 miles east of the Twin Cities, right along the St. Croix river. But all summer long it's such a tourist haven. It's always crowded. Nobody goes there, anymore.

101 Joe D.  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:22:27pm

One day he will meet his maker.

He won't be on the escalator going up!

Joe

102 DesertSage  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:22:41pm

#71 J.D.

My son goes to PCC also. And he calcels out another 50 Moonbats!

103 Proud Kaffir  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:22:45pm

His remarks immediately after people took him to task were also quite offensive and unbecoming of a Senator. "Right wing nutjobs"? Apparently Kerry can criticize what Rush Limbaugh says but no one can criticie what Kerry says.

Can you imagine if a GOP Senator dismissed critics as "left wing nutjobs" when the Senator is criticized for an offensive comment. Can you imagine if he named specific journalists and talk show hosts in order to launch a tirade of insults? The MSM would be outraged for days with loud calls for resignation simply for the name-calling and insults.

104 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:22:57pm

I'm wondering if he and his neighborhood watch teams were out last night documenting military uniforms terrorizing women and children.

105 slgf  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:23:49pm

I've seen attempts at explaining this away as a a joke at Bush's
expense where Kerry's aides cite the text of the speech.

However, no one ever mentions when this text was provided to the
press. He's such a liar, but the MSM gives him a free pass.

106 ted  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:24:29pm

98 correction

[Link: www.mediaresearch.org...]

107 Isobella  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:24:32pm

OT and UnFreakingBelievable:

U.S. fails to protect illegal workers

108 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:24:59pm

#100 Noam Sayin'

Oh, then I don't think it would be that far from his school. New Ulm?

109 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:25:53pm

#87 Killgore Trout

As you might have guess, all the posters are calling the author a troll and posting 'whitespace assbaggery.'

110 J.D.  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:27:09pm

#96 NYNana

O'Reilly nearly always gets to me.
He's all about selling his latest book.

At this point, I wouldn't accept an autographed copy for free.

And Hillary...Will she be immune from appearing on Fox because they are part of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" after Bill's rant?

Good luck with that.

Stay tuned.

111 jrdroll  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:27:33pm

#103

Apparently Kerry can criticize what Rush Limbaugh says but no one can criticie what Kerry says.


sKerry's a Revert to Islam

112 Dave the.....  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:28:20pm

New Ulm - Stillwater. 2 1/2 hours.

113 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:28:51pm

UBER-DELICIOUS QUOTE found at the corner:

John Kerry is a pompous fool who can't see what's right in front of his face, and that's why he steps on clearly marked landmines left and right. Viewed from the headquarters of the Bush campaign in '04, the Kerry campaign was an unbelievable spectacle of how to create problems for yourself that everybody else in Washington is competent enough to avoid. People need to understand: This man does not work. He is super-slacker. His brain is soft. He doesn't have anything to say, and gets by in life only because he says it like an aristocrat.

BURN!

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

114 ted  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:28:58pm

107;

"International human rights law requires the United States to apply its workplace protections equally and without discrimination based on immigration status," said Chandra Bhatnagar, an ACLU Human Rights Program staff attorney"

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

115 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:29:30pm
116 EtNorskTroll  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:31:25pm

This political cartoon sums the whole thing up quite nicely, if you ask me.

Uff da...


~Norsk Troll

117 solomonpanting  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:31:27pm

#107 Isobella

The human rights commission, an arm of the Organization of American States, has scant powers and can do little more than publicize its findings. But the American Civil Liberties Union said the aim of the petition was to put the U.S. government's human-rights record under the spotlight and demand accountability.

Human rights? The illegals can't find work in their native countries, come here and do indeed find work, and the ACLU wants to target US human rights abuses?
Am I on Candid Camera?

118 ted  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:31:51pm

115 MM:

I smell witchhunt...

119 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:31:57pm

#108 mama winger

No, actually New Ulm is southwest of the TC by about 60-70 miles, just outside of Mankato. It, too is a beautiful, old German town on the banks of the Minnesota River.

It's also the home of Schell's Brewery.

120 T. Jefferson  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:31:58pm

OT -- IRAQ'S NEW SECRET POLICE by Ralph Peters

It's ironic that, having gone to Iraq to jump-start democracy in the region, we may end up backing a military coup to save the battered country. We're not there yet (and the thought is anathema in Washington - reality usually is). But we'd better hedge our bets. The only, faint chance we have to protect the average Iraqi is to expand the Iraqi army and promote a national ethos within its ranks.

We have only two rational choices. The first is to read the government the riot act, then give democracy one more year. If Iraq's leaders refuse to lead honorably and effectively - and get the police and militias under control - we should abandon Iraq (except for Kurdistan) by autumn 2007. The other option is to start preparing the best Iraqi military leaders to take charge of their country.

The alternative to a military government looks like continued mayhem - an endless slaughter of the innocents - along with more American casualties as we protect our enemies.

A year ago, one of our legislators asked for my assessment of Iraq's future. I told him that, while the various armed factions couldn't defeat us, the culture of corruption was the greatest threat to a future Iraqi government. That prediction has come to pass.

The state of the Iraqi police confirms it. They're not lawmen. They're murderers wearing uniforms we paid for. Our embedded advisers have to fear for their lives. Most are discouraged by Iraqi duplicity and partisanship. Our troops despise Iraq's police.

Again, we didn't destroy Iraq. We just gave Sunni and Shia Arabs a chance to destroy it. And they grabbed it.

What has become of our dreams for democracy when today's Iraqi police are worse than Saddam's and the most humane possibility for the country is a military government? The answer is that Arab civilization has revealed itself as a catastrophic failure.


[Link: www.nypost.com...]

121 Grammie  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:32:05pm

I posted this elsewhere but I haven't changed my mind about it one bit.

I have a very simple reason for why I believe kerry meant to disparage our military and their families.

I was told for months on end in no uncertain terms by kerry himself, the MSM, and every democrat with a soapbox that kerry was the second smartest (Hilary is the smartest) person in the world. That kerry is so articulate. That kerry is so suave and sophiticated. And it was repeated ten times a day and twice on Sunday.

I was not told, however, that he was an honest man. In fact, he himself admitted that his sworn oath before a congressional hearing was a lie. He really wasn't a War Criminal. A little poetic license from the smartest man in the world is justified when speaking truth to power.

I take him at his word. The 'joke' was intended as an insult to the military and their families and his denial is a lie.

122 lummox  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:32:06pm

#4 mama winger

I am going to locate his grave, consume massive amounts of alcohol, hold my bladder for a really long time, and then stand over his mound of dirt and let 'er rip.
I'm impressed. You stand up to pee. Must come from having a warrior in the family.
I'll bet that, due to my enlarged prostate, you will be able to hit higher on the headstone than I will.
Welcome baby winger for me, (us).

123 ibu guru  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:32:15pm

#38 mingjaiyo

He is a disgrace to the uniform

He is a disgrace to the Senate; he is a disgrace to the State of Massachusetts which elected him and the only one more traitorous than he is; he is a disgrace to the country.

BTW, has anyone else noticed this in other states/electoral districts? All the Dem ads I've seen on TV are negative tear-downs of their opponents; Reps are the only ones I've seen addressing anything on any issue. (I get metro-NYC & CT stations, so the ads I've seen cover CT, NY & NJ.)

124 DesertSage  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:33:26pm

#115 MandyManners

Mandy, the St. Petersburg times is one of the most leftist rags in the country.
They would publish anything to change the subject away from Kerry...and to hurt Coulter.

I wouldn't give it a second thought.

125 Stuck-in-CA  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:33:58pm

105-slgf

He's such a liar, but the MSM gives him a free pass


So what else is new? The Democrat-Media complex strikes again. But they say there IS no media bias. That's as believable as Kerry's apology.

126 bubbasbbq  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:34:10pm

SO, in effect, Kerry was making a JOKE about the men and women in uniform. OK. That makes it all better. pompous jackass.

127 Mcgyver  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:34:14pm

I heard what I heard. What he has offered is not an adequate apology. Mr. Kerry is a liar. And he still tries to bring in the service angle. He is not worthy and doesn't get it.

Now to read the comments. TTFN

Mcgyver, out

128 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:35:01pm

From his own web site,
and his Voters...Damn...

Todd...

Once more Sen. Kerry attacks and insults our service men and women. A joke? Please! We got a true sense of what the senator really thinks. No wonder this fool couldn't win the presidency. Only in Massachusetts could this patrician empty-suit gigolo win an election.


Mrs. Brown...

I have no idea how you became a senator in my beloved country. I am a military wife and it makes me irate to listen to you constantly put down our troops. You definitely need to apologize to all troops and their families. There is no place in the senate for a veteran who constantly and continuously defecates on the very people that protect your freedom. Shame on you, Mr. Kerry!
129 ted  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:35:40pm

"Jesus L., another of the illegal workers named in the petition, is a Michigan poultry worker who suffered severe injuries after falling from the top of a chicken house onto a concrete floor.

He required spinal reconstruction surgery, but the insurance company for Jesus' employer refused to provide workers' compensation to cover time off work because he was undocumented, the ACLU said."

Well cry me a f*cking river...

130 mama winger  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:36:03pm

#119 Noam

It's near a brewery, eh?

Methinks his religious fervor may not be exactly what it seems on the surface . . .

j/k :)


I should talk - two glasses of wine and it's only 7:30. I need to lie down. . . bbl

131 J.D.  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:36:08pm

#102 Desert Sage
Mine went all the way out there to go to USC Med School.

He got an e-mail a couple of weeks ago inviting him to an anti-war rally by something like "Student Physicians for Responsible Government". He immediately countered with an invitation to a Support The Troops rally...on Sunday...after church...(he doesn't go to church)...followed by a trip to the shooting range (he didn't shoot, but now he does!).

And actually got quite a bit of support.

Bless his little "hillbilly" ♥.
:D

132 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:38:32pm

#129 ted

The company should pay. It hired an illegal worker and did not provide a safe environment.

133 wordwarp  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:39:18pm

Occam's Razor: if the joke was mis-stated, why not simply state the joke the way it was meant to be told?

Since he did not, I must conclude that he did not mis-speak. Gaffes like this one can be very revealing as to someone's real point of view.

134 AmericanDefender  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:39:43pm

Jon Carry (what I will call him from here on out, or poodle, depending on my mood..spoke from his anti-military heart. He will NEVER be my Commander in Chief.


A Freudian slip, or parapraxia, is an error in human action, speech or memory that is believed to be caused by the unconscious mind. Some errors, such as a woman accidentally calling her husband by the name of the man with whom she is cheating on him, seem to represent relatively clear cases of Freudian slips. In other cases, the error might appear to be trivial, bizarre or even nonsensical, but shows some deeper significance on analysis.

135 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:40:09pm

Showdown Down Under
Aussies say...
'Take action on sheik soon'

THE Muslim community must take action soon against Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly, Prime Minister John Howard said today.
...
"The failure of the (Islamic) community to resolve this issue is daily doing damage," Mr Howard said.

"Unless this matter is resolved, and time is running out to resolve it, there will be left a sadly diminished view of the willingness of the Islamic community to integrate into the broader Australian community."


Islamists say...
Hilaly matter now closed, Muslim groups say


"The Muslim community is always open to frank and robust debate that is free from slander and vilification, but what we have witnessed over the last week is nothing more than hysteria and sensationalism," the statement said.

"We believe that the public scrutiny of this matter should have ended with the sheik's apology.

"Instead it is clear that certain sections of the media and political establishment have used this incident as an opportunity to vilify the Australian Muslim community."


Who blinks first?
/50-50 odds

136 Silhouette  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:40:35pm

When the first "I meant Bush" excuse was trotted out, so many people pointed out that it was idiocy to say that lack of education led to Bush's actions, considering Kerry's grades were worse than Bush's.

So they came out with a second "clarification" that the homework and education of which they spoke was about the pre-Iraq War intelligence that Bush didn't study enough.

The explanations of what he 'really' meant were changing too much for me to buy them.

And speaking of doing your homework before supporting the Iraq War, Kerry voted for the action but later claimed he wouldn't have if he'd known more. So who didn't study?

137 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:40:44pm

Speaking of shooting, ol' Noam was in a gunshop last night, scouting for a potential upgrade in his home defense system. Someone was firing what sounded like a freakin' howitzer downstairs in the range. I heard someone behind the counter say something about a sniper rifle, so maybe this was a Barrett .50 cal? The thing shook the floor when it went off. *WHUMP!*

Anybody know anything about Taurus? I saw a .45 cal. PT99 for only $300. Good choice? Bad choice?

138 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:41:00pm

JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008...

RUNS AND DUCKS UNDER THE FRIGGING TABLE..

PLEASE DONT KICK...

139 wildcat  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:41:26pm

"I was against an apology before I was for an apology"


- John Kerry -

140 ted  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:41:27pm

4 mw :

I will john you but in addition, 2 hours before have a broccoli, fermented soy bean and kale casserole and stewed prunes with heavy cream for desert followed by a Fleet Enema...

141 DesertSage  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:41:50pm

#121 Grammie

Accually, Kerry is the smartest person...on the planet!

142 Gin Blossom  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:42:27pm
I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.

John F. Kerry

I've met foreign leaders who can't go out and say this publicly, but boy, they look at you and say, you've got to win this, (2004 election) you've got to beat this guy, we need a new policy, things like that.

John F. Kerry

143 Isobella  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:43:16pm

#117 solomonpanting -

Yea - it's just nuts. I think the ACLU should go ahead and change their name to the ICLU (Internationalist Civil Liberties Union) because it makes absolutely no sense at all that an American civil liberties group would fault the US for not protecting illegal workers. It's absurd.

144 AlexMartinez  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:43:23pm

Hi, MandyManners any company or business that hires an illegal, should be held accountable for any accident. Then they should be fined.

145 Gin Blossom  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:43:32pm
President Clinton was often known as the first black president. I wouldn't be upset if I could earn the right to be the second.


John F. Kerry

146 maddogg  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:44:39pm

#20 SlothB77

what will the dems do with him after he blows the second election for them? will they throw him overboard or just send him to mollify the wacko fringe netroots crowd?

Heh,heh. They'll make him party chairman:)

147 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:45:00pm

The only person John F Kerry is attempting to fool is John F Kerry - he's washed-up, fini. Kaput. Kerry's problem is he's far to arrogant to accept the consequences.

Good.

148 christheprofessor  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:45:05pm

What a pompous penile implant. First he insults the troops, then he insults the intelligence of the troops and the rest of America with his lie-strewn, pseudo-apology.

More shameful political games for a perpetually shameless political hack.

Sad that we have a leftist legacy media to shill and cover up for him, and braindead constituents to lap it up like the sheeple they are.

It's appalling to me that 48 million (AIR) people voted for this treasonous bastard to lead this country.

149 N. O'Brain  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:45:14pm

Something has been niggling at my brain today, and it finally hit me on the way home from my second job.

John "Fuckface" Kerry sounds like:

"Our army is composed of the scum of the earth - the mere scum of the earth."

-ARTHUR WELLESLEY, DUKE OF WELLINGTON

150 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:45:57pm

#140 ted

EEEWWW!

TMI!TMI!TMI!

WHERE'S THE FREAKIN' BRAIN BLEACH?

151 J.D.  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:46:02pm

#146 maddogg

Promote him to his highest level of incompetence!

That's the ticket!

152 GreenSoccer  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:46:02pm

69 bill-tb

You and I see eye to eye.

See my comment 216 under Flipper Starts Back Pedaling.

153 Gin Blossom  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:47:05pm
Kerry campaign spokesperson Stephanie Cutter: "Mr. McClellan needs to understand that John Kerry is not the type of leader who will sit and read 'My Pet Goat' to a group of second graders while America is under attack."


(Associated Press quote of Stephanie Cutter speaking on 8-20-04)

154 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:47:37pm

#136 Silhouette

The explanations of what he 'really' meant...

Why doesn't Senator Ketchup just issue the correct version of his joke? Then we will know what he meant.

155 AlexMartinez  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:47:45pm

P.S. heinz and co. was fined for hireing illeagles a few years back.

156 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:47:46pm

#144 AlexMartinez

Bingo!

157 ted  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:48:26pm

144:

I agree 100%

I for one will never pay 1 f*cking red cent for any illegal in any way if i can help it

158 NortonPete  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:49:30pm

#4
#31
#72

All Dead on.

From the SwiftVets...
2 particularly dead on posts..
Homesteader:::The Swift Vets for Truth openly and in public did battle with their enemy in 2004. In a real way, however, they also launched an underwater torpedo in skerry's psychy that has been tracking him, haunting him as it homed in on his miserable self absorbtion. It hit center broadside at that news conference yesterday.

You Swiftees have totally consumed him since 04. Yesterday was all about you and the service you rendered to the country, not only on the jungle rivers but decades later. You not only spared us the possibility of having a traitor as president, you crippled him for life.

And from the Admin Me#1You#10::
t was decidedly not a poorly stated joke, nor a deliberate denigration of the troops.

There is a third, and much more accurate descriptive. It was an off-the-cuff, intemperate but accurate expression of leftist-elitist disdain for the military that he and his kind have demonstrated on countless occasions in the past.

Kerry's phony umbrage at HIS suggestion that others are calling it a deliberate swipe at the troops is a STRAWMAN.

159 AlexMartinez  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:49:38pm

lol drinking beer again, hireing should have been employing

160 Stuck-in-CA  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:49:56pm

141- desert sage

Accually, Kerry is the smartest person...on the planet!


what a turd he is.

161 DesertSage  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:50:08pm

#137 Noam Sayin'

Anybody know anything about Taurus?

I'm a Taurus Noam. I'll tell you anything you want to know...:')

162 solomonpanting  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:50:46pm

"Two days ago, Kerry stirred controversy when he told a group of California students that individuals who don't study hard and do their homework would likely 'get stuck in Iraq.'"
What he really meant was people who never have a real job, marry rich, become Senators, and diss the military would likely "get stuck on stupid."

163 ibu guru  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:51:49pm

#107 Isobella

U.S. fails to protect ^citizens from^ illegal workers


/fixed that

164 J.D.  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:52:14pm

#137 Noam
I'm Leo/Virgo cusp.
Sorry.

165 AlexMartinez  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:52:21pm

Noam I was looking at a used 454 casul, do you have any insite to this firearm?

166 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:52:32pm
167 aaron's rantblog  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:56:35pm
168 J.D.  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:57:08pm

#166 FrogMarch

...The decorated Vietnam war veteran added, “Let me make this crystal clear, as crystal clear as I can make it: It’s not the fault of the Iraqis that your country has become purgatory for our bad students. I hope everyone — Sunni, Shia and freedom-fighting insurgent alike — will find it in his heart to forgive me.”


It will happen. Give him time.

Charles, can you get an interview with "Scott Ott"? I would love to know more about scrappleface.

169 Bayonet  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:58:11pm

Self-promoting Ass-Bag
John Kerry isn't worth a bullet

This Rich Woman's Poodle:

a. Faked at least two of his "combat" injuries (actually self-inflicted-wounds =SIWs)
b. Filmed himself in SVN "playing" hero in order to try to create for himself a JFK-esq personna;
c. Slandered all those who served during the Indo China War
d. Shamelessly invoked Reagan
e. "Outted" Cheney's daughter on TV
f. Now he has Slandered our troops serving in the War with Islamofascism

Elitist//Empty-Suit//Ass-Bag

170 galloping granny  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:59:25pm
#123 ibu guru 11/1/2006 05:32PM PST

#38 mingjaiyo

He is a disgrace to the uniform

He is a disgrace to the Senate; he is a disgrace to the State of Massachusetts which elected him and the only one more traitorous than he is; he is a disgrace to the country.

BTW, has anyone else noticed this in other states/electoral districts? All the Dem ads I've seen on TV are negative tear-downs of their opponents; Reps are the only ones I've seen addressing anything on any issue. (I get metro-NYC & CT stations, so the ads I've seen cover CT, NY & NJ.)

Jon Carry wouldn't know an apology if it bit him on the ass. What he SHOULD do is truly apologize.

Meanwhile, how about that DD180 Kerry? You've been promising that a long time now. I think the American people have a right to know who is representing them.

Negative ads? I guess I'm pretty lucky. I have not seen a single Democratic ad in the last few weeks. I have seen one for a website called dontvote.org about voting the issues - didn't bother to look - and a couple for the Republicans, neither attack ads.

171 Ghost  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 3:59:56pm

First off, I think that he meant exactly what he said. If he really intended to say different words, then it was a Freudian slip revealing his true thoughts.

And after the whole Trent Lott mess, where Lott had to resign after an off-the-cuff remark about Strom Thurman clearly was taken out of context, the MSM should be ashamed of itself. The contrast of how Lott was thrown to the lions, compared with the near-panic attempts to find an excuse for why Kerry said what he said, are pathetic.

172 maddogg  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:00:21pm

You folks with firearms questions might look here. Good site to ask questions and start an argument.

173 EC Marm  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:01:35pm

#144 AlexMartinez

Hi, MandyManners any company or business that hires an illegal, should be held accountable for any accident. Then they should be fined.


The whole idea behind workers compensation insurance is to protect the business entity from lawsuits. This is actually good news, that an insurance carrier is "kicking it back" at the employer for the employers negligence. When one out of seven workers in this country right now is illegal, I refuse to believe that employers are that stupid or unknowing.
Are businesses so stupid to not realize that the death of an employee in an on-the-job accident could result in a multi-million dollar judgement against them if the insurance carrier refuses the claim?

174 PDM  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:02:35pm

Even if he offered a sincere apology, who would accept it? Words said can not be un-said. So in that regard, aside from 'going on the record', it's actually pretty pointless. It's not going to change, correct, or make anything better.
The people who hate him will still hate him.
The people who like him will still like him.
He'd do just as well to shut up and drop it.

175 CowardKerry  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:02:51pm

Creep.

176 Grammie  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:04:59pm

Mama winger

Just found out you have a new fledging on the way. I am so happy for you and wish you the best. When you guys are finished with the grave, take a few pics and share them with us all. Bashful bladder, you know. I'll be there in spirit.

#141 Desert Sage

Thank you. It was so funny I have to go now. It caused me to spit various fluids on my screen. A woman's work is never done.

177 Nahanni  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:06:42pm

This isn't going to go away, Johnny!

You are too stupid to know when to shut your mouth and your ego is too big for you to allow yourself to listen to anyone or apologise for the stupid comments you made.

Which in this case is a good thing. Because you are showing the true face of the Democratic party and it's LLL nutroots for all to see. And all will see it, Johnny boy! You see, your best friends in the MSM no longer control the access to information nor do they (and the Democratic party) control the agenda. One would have thought that you and your LLL buddies would've realised that by now especially after your buddy Danny Rather (Korean war draft dodger) tried to pull a fast one with some fake "memos".

So, Johnny, if you truly want to see someone that is incredibly stupid I suggest you look in one of those gold framed mirrors in your house and you will see the face of stupidity staring back at you.

178 CowardKerry  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:08:39pm

What want to know is what kind of morons could vote for this creep? Mass voters must be borderline retarded.

179 AlexMartinez  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:10:20pm

EC Marm has an American business owner self employed for 19 1/2 years in the building trades. When it comes to money most companies will hire the cheapest labor. I for one do not and will not hire an illeagle. Of course I do have a hard time finding help at times.

180 Bard  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:10:50pm

#28 muman

Nah, I think it's because everything has to have an entertainment value for the masses. Voting records don't play on TV without a ludicrous line to accompany them. It's pathetic. Ratings, you know, and embarassments like this are the trees the newsmakers (of all stripes) can't see the forest for.

Granted, this particular tree has a thick, clear growth of moss to help us with our sense of direction.

(I fail to see how homosexuality enters into the picture.)

181 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:11:56pm

Sage, J.D.,

Smartasses.

AlexMartinez,

The only handgun I've ever owned was a S&W .357, which I sold to a cop friend before I left college. I got it really cheap and helped out a new cop with his first firearm. So I'm not all that versed in makers of handguns. I'm thinking about a Ruger .357 since the S&W have gotten quite pricey. BOY! I really should have held on to that one.

Anybody know anything about the newer makes of the Mod. 1911 .45 acp?

Sorry to continue this OT.

182 solomonpanting  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:14:29pm

#178 CowardKerry
What want to know is what kind of morons could vote for this creep?

Two years ago, over 57 million.
;(

183 Proud Kaffir  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:15:34pm

The bad news for Kerry is that he will never again be considered presidential material after trashing the troops.

The good news is he will forever be considered a political god in Massachussetts.

Ma. really has sent a couple of senatorial winners. One guy, besides murdering a girl, tried to help the Soviets avoid losing the Cold War and another insults the intelligence of our troops during wartime. In just about any other state, especially outside New England, these actions would lead to forced regsination. In Ma., they lead to adulation.

184 AlexMartinez  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:16:32pm

Noam I've got a Charles Daly model 1911, damn fine shooter, The Glock 45 is a nice gun. Got a model 22 in 40 cal its accurate as all get out.

185 DesertSage  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:18:05pm

Noam, I sent you an e-mail.

186 EC Marm  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:18:15pm

#179 AlexMartinez
Being honest puts you at a disadvantage against the competition, doesn't it? I finally gave up after 27 years. I couldn't compete anymore. I wanted to pay my employees well, cover them (and their families) with insurance, have a safe factory, comply with all gov't regulations, train them for their own safety, etc. I guess I'm dum. I never expected my own leaders to sell me down the river for votes or special interest groups that needed a source of cheap labor.

187 JustMyView  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:21:51pm

#37 rqballjohn

point 2- he is complaining about not discussing the issues, yet they are the ones digging up personal info to drag through the mud. Do they want to discuss terrorism, oil dependency, the failing education system, social security solvency? no, bring up those subjects and they go to personal attacks - as in - bush lied or only they are the enlighten ones to save the world.

Good point. Perhaps you could drop a note on this topic to George Allen in Virginia before he trots out more passages from Jim Webb's novels.

188 RadicalRon  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:22:40pm

How I wish that a former guest of the Hanoi Hilton would walk up to Jean-Pierre and hit him so goddamn hard that the fake Brahmin wouldn't touch land again until sometime next month.

189 AlexMartinez  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:23:50pm

lol EC Marm was thinking today as another man walked of my jobsite, maybe I should get a job.

190 PDM  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:25:20pm

#186 EC Marm,

I never expected my own leaders to sell me down the river for votes or special interest groups

Politicians are your best friends
.
.
.
before the election.

191 EC Marm  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:25:25pm

#4 mama winger

John Kerry is older than I am, which hopefully means he will die before I do. When that happens, I am going to locate his grave, consume massive amounts of alcohol, hold my bladder for a really long time, and then stand over his mound of dirt and let 'er rip.


How much would you like to bet that he has some sort of "eternal flame" installed over his grave? I'm gonna laugh every time when I read in the local paper reporting that it went out once again.
"Mama Winger, at it again," I'll mutter.

192 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:26:27pm

#184 AlexMartinez

That's the 1911 I was looking at. It's a real, handsome gun, doncha think? The Glocks weren't too far over my budget, either.

193 JustMyView  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:27:15pm

#174 PDM

Even if he offered a sincere apology, who would accept it?

The House Majority Leader.

House Majority Leader John Boehner of Ohio said today that Kerry's apology was ``good enough.'' Republicans ``asked him to apologize to the troops that we believe he offended and I believe that he has,'' Boehner said on CNN.
194 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:28:03pm

Got it, Sage. I had some comments about your grouping. But you weren't really shooting skeet with a pistol, were you?

195 AlexMartinez  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:29:43pm

Noam was supprized at the accuracy of the Charles Daly, wasn't to pricy. Hell even got the 12 gauge shotgun too.

196 lummox  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:33:14pm

Closing in on 200 posts about an a$$hats 'mis'statement.

Hell, this thread would have been over in 6 posts if we were quoting sincere statements this a$$hole has made over his entire career.

Jon ¢arry, indeed.

197 lummox  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:35:24pm

and all 6 would be "i'm john kerry".

198 AlexMartinez  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:38:09pm

#197 lummox and he fought in viet nam too

199 lummox  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:42:46pm

I'll believe that when I see his form 180.

200 lummox  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:43:50pm

200th , heh©

201 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:46:30pm

#195 AlexMartinez

Good to know, Alex. I might just consider that one.

202 unaha-closp  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 5:05:18pm

Maybe this all was a deliberate ploy to direct attention back onto Iraq.
The debate is now Iraq and American soldiers and John Kerry. If the Dems can distance themselves from John Kerry before Saturday, they have suceeded in centering the debate where they want it - Iraq and American soldiers and if a change is needed. I mean it is nice to see you to have a focused period of Kerry bashing and the Koskidz spend the time appointing him to sainthood, but this is just a polemic rehash of 2 years ago which has already been decided and probably won't last until the 7th.

203 infidel4life  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 5:06:04pm
over here in the subterranean chamber beneath Denver Airport, my Acme BS Detector is going insane.


Damn! I knew I forgot that thing catching a connecting flight...

Well, it's in good hands.

204 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 5:18:35pm

#110 J.D.

O'Reilly nearly always gets to me.
He's all about selling his latest book.

At this point, I wouldn't accept an autographed copy for free.

And Hillary...Will she be immune from appearing on Fox because they are part of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" after Bill's rant?

I remember when he was local, in NY, and was actually a real reporter on TV..now, he is a joke. Once in awhile, he really is good, but those days are further and further apart.

As for the Hildebeast? The NY Post, which also owns Foxnews (Rupert Murdoch) endorsed her ? for 2006 and 2012 and Murdoch seems to be a chief backer. I wonder what influence his young wife has had in this? I will bet that if she goes on Fox, they will let Girly Girl soft soap 'interview' Bubba's political partner.

Just as we cancelled al-NYT over 7 years ago, we cancelled The Post..and let them know, months and months ago, it was because Murdoch had come out for her.

205 AlexMartinez  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 5:27:03pm

#204 NY Nana I used to rely on fox news soley. But alas I'm back to a m radio, and Rush and some Neal Boortz for the real scoop.

206 ctrlL  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 5:48:19pm

Charles,

I don’t believe this for one nanosecond. Kerry was preaching to the choir

-- he thought so but, did you catch the quote about the initial reaction? 'laughter and gasps' That says something about who was listening and what they HEARD !

His latest statement doesn’t exist in a vacuum

-- most importantly, he has at least 2 other documented episodes of this public display of military hatred generally known by a large number of people [thanks, tfk]

Kerry has a long history of saying outrageous things about US soldiers.

-- let us fervently pray that the history comes quickly to an end; if not by recall, then through the next election cycle.

/amen

207 PDM  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 5:59:40pm

#193 JustMyView,

Even if he offered a sincere apology, who would accept it?

The House Majority Leader.

House Majority Leader John Boehner of Ohio said today that Kerry's apology was ``good enough.'' Republicans ``asked him to apologize to the troops that we believe he offended and I believe that he has,'' Boehner said on CNN.

"good enough" for what exactly?

House Majority Leader John Boehner distributed a statement on Kerry this morning which asserted: "He is liberal, a leftist, and this is the typical attitude they have toward our military.''

Maybe good enough to record, but otherwise not good enough.
Like I said, the people bent on hating this guy will continue to hate him. The people bent on loving him will continue to love him.

I didn't care for Kerry before this mess, and whatever he says, or however he apologizes, isn't going to change my opinion of him. Apologies, especially in the political arena, generally repair nothing.

208 Bluto  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 6:01:48pm

[sniff, sniff] I smell burning pants.

209 neocon hippie  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 6:29:46pm

The fact that this POS was the Democrat nominee in 2004 shows just how deranged that party is, and that he came as close as he did shows that we are hanging by a thread. Of course y'all know that. And we're getting a furthur demonstration of how wacked the LSM is that it is going along with this apology charade.

210 Ben F  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 7:09:03pm
I don’t believe this for one nanosecond.

Some folks suffer from BDS. For others, it's KDS. Equally irrational.

211 solomonpanting  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 7:26:22pm

#210 Ben F
Some folks suffer from BDS. For others, it's KDS. Equally irrational.

It's not irrational if there's a pattern to Kerry's behavior.
It's not irrational if Kerry's own party members have called for him to issue an apology or retraction.
I could go on but I don't want to appear irrational.
I could go on but I'm sweepy and must to go to bed.
I could go on but it's tired and I'm late.

212 mattm  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 7:31:29pm

Botched joke...riiight. I woudl be more likley to participate in a ANSWER rally before I believed his joke excuse. Ten theyr is this:

I will continue to fight for a change of course to provide real security for our country, and a winning strategy for our troops.

What is that winnign stragtey again? You still haven't told us besides a "timetable" of some form.

213 really grumpy big dog johnson  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 7:51:10pm

In his lighter days, I wonder how much of his frolics were simply numbskullery...

And then I wonder, when in his garden of heroes, how much of his was simply skullery.

It disgusts me, but maybe it's a topic that deserves discussion.

Johnny, you are so busted.

214 republic  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 8:00:17pm

John Kerry has been a confirmed liar, traitor, scam artist, traitor, liar, since the 1970's, and that is just what has been documented.

When a person uses their military experience as a green light to lie, lie, lie,

SPIT!

215 AST  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 10:38:36pm

He didn't botch the joke. It's a joke from the Vietnam era told by people who were able to get draft deferments for college. I heard it repeatedly during that era, and so did Kerry.

He probably thought it would be cute to paraphrase it into an insult to George Bush, but it would have recalled that old cynical line he probably heard and said during that era. Only he didn't rehearse it and it came out the same way it always had, as an insult towards those who served in the military as being too dumb to get a deferment.

Kerry's "service" was planned to mimic John F. Kennedy's, but that's as far as the similarity went. They both served in the Navy.

He should just avoid any mention of the war or the military. It will always remind people of his 1971 testimony smearing his fellows Vietnam servicemen.

216 Ben F  Wed, Nov 1, 2006 11:51:54pm

AST sez—

He didn't botch the joke. …

He probably thought it would be cute to paraphrase it into an insult to George Bush, but it would have recalled that old cynical line he probably heard and said during that era. Only he didn't rehearse it and it came out the same way it always had, as an insult towards those who served in the military as being too dumb to get a deferment.

So you're saying that Kerry didn't botch it until he botched it?

217 RickZ  Thu, Nov 2, 2006 1:56:32am

# 98 Ted:

Its not that the MSM arent covering it:

They are either trying to downplay it, spin, softball or turn it against Bush with headlines like:

"GWB Attacks Kerry over Remark"

I agree with that. How hard would it be to write, "Bush Defends Military Over Kerry Remark"? Of course that's rhetorical, because that headline will never happen. But let's face it, that is the gist of the story, and with Kerry, an old story indeed.

218 maclgf  Thu, Nov 2, 2006 4:38:49am

Apologies are only such if there is contrition.

Hillary: John, you're killing my chances for 2008. Apologize so I don't have to keep up the facade that I give a rip about our military.

Kerry: No way, babe. You remember my comment about Jenjis Kahn? Well, I meant that and this one too.

Hillary: Apologize, or I promise you're going to have sex with me.

Kerry: (Shuddering) Sheesh. There's no reason to threaten.


Kerry was beaten into this apology, so there is no contrition. Any current or former military personnel is at least smart enough to see through this bullshit.

219 Hazmat  Thu, Nov 2, 2006 4:50:51am

foot in mouth, head up ass.

220 skippyMoment  Thu, Nov 2, 2006 5:40:08am

Charles, You are correct that he was playing to an anti-war/anti-American crowd... he was in California stumping for a home-grown hard left candidate. The schools out there are infested with teachers specializing in the indoctrination of the youth into the DSP (Democratic Socialist Party).

221 Carolina Girl  Thu, Nov 2, 2006 6:46:09am

"John Kerry reporting for doody."

222 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 2, 2006 12:00:00pm

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