Is anyone here surprised?

/crickets

Family law? Women, cover your meat.

promising an investigation into allegations of human rights abuses by the administration deposed in a recent coup

But something tells me that beheading of Christians will not be considered a human-rights issue.

True poetic justice will be served when shri'a law is implemented in San Francisco.

Anybody out there who didn't see this coming?

Oh.... the Overlordly Edictifying. It took them longer than I thought.

UBER BAHAI POSTER CARRADINE - GTFOT! NOW!

"Muslim culture" = independent state constantly at war with the original state, sharia, and clerical rule.

Now it's just another 3rd world shithole that I never want to visit.
Too bad, it is supposed to be a beautiful place.
Does anybody else believe that the world was better off under European Colonial Rule?

Its like a plague infecting the world.

Moderate Sharia

an oxymoron if I have ever heard of one!

OT, but am I the only person who finds it amusing that CBSNews.com is advertising on LGF (top sidebar ad for me :-).

I hope Dan Rather knows about this :-)

/spit

#11 Iron Fist
ROTFF~

I'm very much afraid I'm thinking very unChristian thoughts about these Thai bullies Muslims right now.

But MSM - let's not pay attention to this. Let's talk about the elephants, the jewelry, or all the hot whores in the aptly named Bangkok (sarc).

Some OTs:

[Link: www.expatica.com...]

Frenchman winner of Holocaust cartoon contest

A Frenchman was among the winners of a controversial competition for cartoons on the Holocaust announced by Iranian Culture Minister Mohammad Hossein Saffar-Harandi Wednesday.

The Frenchman, whose name and entry were not released to protect him from possible prosecution in his homeland, came second equal with Brazilian Carlos Latuff, whose caricature showed a Palestinian wearing a uniform like that which Jews were required to wear in Nazi concentration camps.

[Link: www.gulf-news.com...]

Denmark one of Egypt's worst enemies
Agencies

Cairo: Egyptians view Denmark as a "very hostile" nation, according to a government poll released on Tuesday.

The cabinet's Information and Decision Support Centre which conducted the survey, said in a statement that the poll showed that 60 per cent of a random sample of 1,000 Egyptians regard Denmark as a "hostile" state, with 37 per cent saying it was "very hostile".

The poll results show that Muslim uproar regarding last year's Danish cartoons lampooning the Phrophet Mohammad has yet to die down.

[Link: www.thelocal.se...]

Swedish authorities have called for the accounts of a Malmö-based fund-raising foundation to be frozen as part of an ongoing terrorist investigation. The organisation, al-Aqsa Spannmål ('al-Aqsa Corn'), will be denied access to bank accounts containing over one million kronor, Sydsvenskan reports.

Deputy chief prosecutor Agnetha Hilding Qvarnström claims that organisations connected to Hamas have recieved 6 million kronor from the Malmö-based foundation. With this in mind she asked Malmö district court to freeze al-Aqsa Spannmål's accounts to the value of 1.3 million kronor.

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

Fitzgerald: If we leave, the jihadists will win?

[Link: memritv.org...]

Malaysian Cleric Hussein Ye: The Americans Have No Proof Muslims Were Involved in 9/11; It Is Our Word against Theirs

over inheritance and family affairs

Sounds so benign, doesn't it? Just a few personal family court things. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Pay no attention to inheritance shariah laws that state women get one-half shares of men.

Pay no attention to "family" affairs like honor killings, forced marriages of underage girls, marriages of near relatives, and use of women as payment for judgements against her male relatives (e.g., he's convicted of something so the judge awards her as a bride to the victim.)

#14 Catttt 11/2/2006 11:09AM PST
I'm very much afraid I'm thinking very unChristian thoughts about these Thai bullies Muslims right now.

But MSM - let's not pay attention to this. Let's talk about the elephants, the jewelry, or all the hot whores in the aptly named Bangkok (sarc).

If you want to defeat Islam, I suggest you hold back on you Christian thoughts. Forgiving Jihad wont stop them. :-)

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

According to the last census (2000) 94.6% of Thais are Buddhists of the Theravada tradition. Muslims are the second religious group in Thailand at 4.6%.... Christians, mainly Catholics, represent 0.75% of the population. A tiny but influential community of Sikhs and some Hindus also live in the country's cities.

Well, there goes the sex-industry. Thailand will need a new national product. Burkas and long bladed knives perhaps?

#16 Silhouette

And wait for the inevitable cross religuous situations, where some family members are dirty kafir and others noble muslims. Wonder how the courts work in those cases?

OT

Two Are Identified From Remains at Ground Zero

The families of about 40 percent of those killed at the attack have yet to received DNA confirmation of their remains.

When the music, dancing, and liquor is gone next week, and they're unarmed, what then?
OK, OK, so I was some weeks off.

#19 cheesehead

Don't loose all hope. I'm sure there will still be a brisk trade in young boys and goats for the faithful.

#19 cheesehead

Well, there goes the sex-industry.

No, it just means that tourists have to convert to Islam and be gay pedophiles.

Let the honor killings and Christian/Buddhist beheadings commence. Islam is a plague, and unfortunately the infection is now firmly entrenched in the Thai government.

Previous governments have shown little acceptance of Muslim culture.

They were keeping their heads on straight.

Iron Fist--True, I find the CBS ad ironic, but I think these web ads run almost anywhere. I've been seeing MSNBC ads alll over the place. Same with television--I constantly see MSNBC ads on FNC on my system.

#23 beblebrox

Aren't there a lot of elephants in Thailand?
More for their money!

So I take it that the infidel Thais have to apologise for every Buddhist monk beheaded by the Islamists. *rolls eyes*

What a wacky world we live in. And where are the lefties and womens libbers - oh almost forgot, they're on the side of the Jihadits.

#19 cheesehead
#24 religion of bacon

No, it'll mean the end of sex tourism involving humans. Sex tourists looking for some hot goat action will still be welcomed.

Carridine, where are you?

11 Iron Fist

OT, but am I the only person who finds it amusing that CBSNews.com is advertising on LGF (top sidebar ad for me :-).

I hope Dan Rather knows about this

I think I was the only one to notice the NYTImes advertising here last week. That was rich!

So when does this guy get couped out?

“unexpected initiative”

...unexpected if you're a dumbass that works at the AP...unexpected if you subscibe to a newspaper that prints AP propoganda...unexpected if you are clueless about Islamofascists.

#33 Orbit Rain 11/2/2006 11:25AM PST
“unexpected initiative”

...unexpected if you're a dumbass that works at the AP...unexpected if you subscibe to a newspaper that prints AP propoganda...unexpected if

you are clueless about Islamofascists.

They are clueless about Islam. If they truly understood it, they would know appeasement wont make them any safer.

#26 Jammie

Iron Fist--True, I find the CBS ad ironic, but I think these web ads run almost anywhere. I've been seeing MSNBC ads alll over the place. Same with television--I constantly see MSNBC ads on FNC on my system.

I see it too, but I think it has to do with being on cable. Cable systems run ads where they want, when they want.

Did anyone see the movie Land of the Blind.

Ralph Finnes helps to overthrow a corrupt democratic governement and impose a utopian socialist state.

Turns out its not such an ideal situation and all the women end up in Burqa's.

Great movie.

#18 nonic

According to the last census (2000) 94.6% of Thais are Buddhists of the Theravada tradition. Muslims are the second religious group in Thailand at 4.6%.... Christians, mainly Catholics, represent 0.75% of the population. A tiny but influential community of Sikhs and some Hindus also live in the country's cities.

Given France is 11% Muslim, how long before the Islamic takeover becomes an absolute reality there and Gay Paris becomes Grey Paris in the new Fwanceistan. No more Moulin Rouge, Notre Dame gets its minarets, and our fallen from World War II spin in their graves.

Its interesting that once Islam appears somewhere it rarely if ever goes away.

Perhaps, because it appeals to the baser instincts of men?

It is basically, a pirates religion (except for the no drinking part). This religion was born out of the desert raiders culture, correct? The early muslims and those tribes they sprung from made thier livings attacking caravans and traders.

As long as there are victims to rob, rape, enslave, tax and subjugate its all fun and games. Hey, if you die in the process you get to go to Heaven. Not such a bad deal if you are a man and you are in the ruling class - and you're a dick with no soul.

#8 saylorfam

Does anybody else believe that the world was better off under European Colonial Rule?

Of course it was. But what is a really far more interesting question and topic to consider is why and how European colonial rule happened?

Why and how were the Europeans stronger, richer, faster, and smarter? Why and how were the "third world" tribes weak and vulnerable and sickly?

"Limited use" is akin to being half pregnant.

and our fallen from World War II spin in their graves.

thats if the graves are plowed over.

#27 cheesehead

Are elephants halal?

#16 Silhouette

over inheritance and family affairs

Sounds so benign, doesn't it? Just a few personal family court things. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Pay no attention to inheritance shariah laws that state women get one-half shares of men.

Who Taught Allah Math?

[SNIP]

One of the most obvious mathematical mistakes of the Quran can be found in the division of the inheritance.

The laws of inheritance are spread out in several Suras. One can find references to them in Al-Baqarah(2), Al-Maidah(5) and Al-Anfal(8). But the details of these laws are spelled out in the Surah Nisa (4)
...

Despite the fact that it says “Allah made them clear”, these laws are far from clear.

Verse 4:11 says that if a man has only one daughter, she gets half of the inheritance irrespective of other heirs. But since the same verse says that the portion of the male is twice that of the female, her brother is supposed to get all the inheritance. Isn’t this a discrepancy? Certainly there is an error in how this law is written. Yet the problem is aggravated further when the share of other heirs like parents and wives are taken into consideration.

There are cases when the total of the shares assigned to the heirs exceeds the patrimony. Take for example the following
...

In order to solve these problems the Islamic doctors of law have devised a complex “science” called “Al-Fara’id”. It contains rules of "Awl" and "Usbah," and the laws of "Usool" of the Fara'id, the laws of "Hajb wa Hirman," and many other issues relating to this matter
...

Thus the problem is solved thanks to human ingenuity but the portions are not the same as indicated in the Quran. Each party has to waive part of his or her share in order to make this law work. This is a clear case in which the words of Allah needed human intervention in order to become applicable.

There are yet cases when the shares of the inheritors do not sum to a whole 100% and there is a surplus left
...

[/PINS]

is this good news or bad news for the child molestor tourists?

Another one bites the dust.

"Limited use of islamic law..."

yeh, wait and see how that woks out for you.
it's like the old door to door vacumn salesman...all they need is a foot in your door, and your screwed.

on a positive note, single men in US,Canada, New Zealand, And Australia can expect a big influx of Thailand girls real soon. won't have to send away for them anymore, they'll be here before you know it.

Why and how were the Europeans stronger, richer, faster, and smarter? Why and how were the "third world" tribes weak and vulnerable and sickly?

They werent smarter or faster, they were richer because they were able to adopt and change.

They incorporated elements that worked from all societies and peoples.

Third world tribes were weak because they had 0 exposure to the outside world. They knew only what they could see. And how were they to know that their were people outside of their peripheral vision that had guns that could kill them when all they knew were stones and arrows.

It would be a situation like in the movies where aliens invaded earth with advanced laser weapons and force fields.

Well if we had no clue about them how the hell are we going to prepare to deal with that threat.

No one sits around imagining every possible scenerio. Especially hundreds of years ago.

OT

'Honor' Arson in the UK?

When this first happened, it seemed like a random tragic event, but now the police are sure it's murder and are looking for the father...

Hopefully another coup is in the works.

#37 SpiritOf1683 11/2/2006 11:32AM PST

#18 nonic

According to the last census (2000) 94.6% of Thais are Buddhists of the Theravada tradition. Muslims are the second religious group in Thailand at 4.6%.... Christians, mainly Catholics, represent 0.75% of the population. A tiny but influential community of Sikhs and some Hindus also live in the country's cities.

Given France is 11% Muslim, how long before the Islamic takeover becomes an absolute reality there and Gay Paris becomes Grey Paris in the new Fwanceistan. No more Moulin Rouge, Notre Dame gets its minarets, and our fallen from World War II spin in their graves.

Amazing how such a small population took over like that. Thais are real pussies. Even France held out longer with a larger Muslim population.

he would urge the limited use of Islamic law in Thailand’s Muslim-majority south to settle some disputes, especially over inheritance and family affairs....

In other words, women who are born into Muslim households will not have the same legal protections as non-Muslim women.

#15 Fjordman

No surprise that scumbag Latuff came in 2nd in the Holocaust cartoon contest. Well, maybe a little surprise that he didn't come in first.

In an unexpected initiative, Chulanont Surayud also said he would urge the limited use of Islamic law in Thailand’s Muslim-majority south to settle some disputes, especially over inheritance and family affairs, he said.

Talk about staying on message, I have seen that line of reasoning in just about every case where the Muslims wish to exert influence. Isn't this the same reason given to Canadiens when they were lobbying for adoption of shari'a law? I am almost as sick of that line as I am this one

Cindy Sheehan, mother of a slain soldier in Iraq. . .

Who would ever have seen this coming?

folks, Carridine is about 11 hours off Eastern Standard Time, so it's about 1 am where he is
(me an' him is kinda tight)

but I am inclined to agree with #6 BabbaZee
Get out, my friend

limited (for now) Sharia Law
in the South (for now)

Alluhah Ackbar!

and thus the Satanic tsunami rolls on.....

I know a man who is soon going to be going to Thailand to do missionary work (of a sort). He's really going for a temporary job with people he's been talking to, but while there he plans to try to confront people about religion, kind of the manner Jehovah's Witnesses do.

I have warned him as this story has progressed, that he may need to be very careful of the way he acts. Thailand is not becoming the place for a white, Christian, American male (who I believe is homosexual as well, though I've never asked). I just hope the guy comes back alright, because he refuses not to go.

His faith is strong, I hope it helps him out.

How very sad. "Limited" - sure, tell us another one.

One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the Islamists will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new Muslim overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted Lizardoid personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to behead in their underground caves.

What a real surprise...

Today Thailand, tomorrow Ethiopia....

Oops, wrong forum.

DOH!

Ignore #59.

As the non-muslims debate and deny there is a threat...

....anther battlefront won by the Islamists.

#62 WrathofG-d 11/2/2006 11:49AM PST
As the non-muslims debate and deny there is a threat...

....anther battlefront won by the Islamists.

What threat?

*saracasm*

#59 aunursa

Would you say its time for the viewers at home to crack eachothers heads open and feast on the goo inside?

Off-topic, but I think Charles might be interested in this one. In the National Catholic Reporter, John Allen Jr. has a story on Benedict XVI's upcoming visit to Turkey. The story somewhat dully revolves around Turkey's PM's pathetic snub by deciding not to be there. Buried near the end of the story is this quote:

Members of Diyanet-Sen, an imans’ union with the country’s Religious Affairs Directorate, asked authorities to to detain him when he arrives. They said the pontiff had violated Turkish laws upholding freedom of belief and thought by “insulting” Islam and the Prophet Mohammed.

emphasis mine

Turkey, the great moderate Islamic state!

he would urge the limited use of Islamic law in Thailand’s Muslim-majority south to settle some disputes, especially over inheritance and family affairs

Family Affairs?
Read Honor Killings...

#47 pegcity

But how and why did it all happen that way?

Europeans' technology made them "smarter" and "faster."

[Europeans] incorporated elements that worked from all societies and peoples.

Do you mean they were open-minded, flexible, adaptable, and adventurous?

Third world tribes were weak because they had 0 exposure to the outside world. They knew only what they could see. And how were they to know that their were people outside of their peripheral vision

Why? Were their feet nailed to the ground? Why didn't they explore? Why didn't they look? Why didn't they imagine?

It would be a situation like in the movies where aliens invaded

It would be nothing like invading aliens -- unless you think that the tribes did not possess the same capacities as other humans?

No one sits around imagining every possible scenerio. Especially hundreds of years ago.

Oh, sure they do. And especially hundreds of years ago when there wasn't much else to do. Science fiction? Utopia literature? Mythology? Where do you think it all came from?

#65 Crazy Diamond 11/2/2006 11:51AM PST
Off-topic, but I think Charles might be interested in this one. In the National Catholic Reporter, John Allen Jr. has a story on Benedict XVI's upcoming visit to Turkey. The story somewhat dully revolves around Turkey's PM's pathetic snub by deciding not to be there. Buried near the end of the story is this quote:

Members of Diyanet-Sen, an imans’ union with the country’s Religious Affairs Directorate, asked authorities to to detain him when he arrives. They said the pontiff had violated Turkish laws upholding freedom of belief and thought by “insulting” Islam and the Prophet Mohammed.

emphasis mine

Turkey, the great moderate Islamic state!

The Pope is Turkish?

family affairs, he said.

Re: khalwat and uncovered meat among others..

#66 buzzsawmonkey 11/2/2006 11:51AM PST

Isn't a tiny Muslim population exerting control over a much larger non-Muslim population an example of imperialism? Of colonialism? Even--once sharia is applied across the board, and dhimmitude becomes the lot of the majority--of (gasp) apartheid?

Where's that leftist seething?

They've already taken to blowing up Buddhist monks because they inhabit the land the Muslims want.

Shouldn't that be a hate crime?

#55 friarstale 11/2/2006 11:44AM PST

folks, Carridine is about 11 hours off Eastern Standard Time, so it's about 1 am where he is
(me an' him is kinda tight)

but I am inclined to agree with #6 BabbaZee
Get out, my friend

limited (for now) Sharia Law
in the South (for now)

I have to agree with you. Anyone who is not muslim who can get out of Thailand should.

Not to be stupid, but the last I knew Thailand was a monarchy. Anybody know what's happened with that?

#50 Elric66

Amazing how such a small population took over like that. Thais are real pussies. Even France held out longer with a larger Muslim population.

That may be unfair. This was a coup while the sitting government were in NY for the UN bash.

And as for Thais being inferior men -- it ain't over yet.

There WAS a majority population being harrassed by a minority while the majority government wasn't doing enough to protect them.

Now, it's a majority population (big majority) directly at odds with their own government.

I think this is a wait-and-see situation brewing.

#37 SpiritOf1683

Given France is 11% Muslim, how long before the Islamic takeover becomes an absolute reality there and Gay Paris becomes Grey Paris in the new Fwanceistan. No more Moulin Rouge, Notre Dame gets its minarets, and our fallen from World War II spin in their graves.

Don't be surprised if mosques are built over the cemetaries.

Stop the financial and military aid.

If it's sharia they want, let 'em have it.

OT - But related. Muslim actress earns the ire of mullahs!

But then what is new?

Expect another coup.

#72 Chyron 11/2/2006 11:58AM PST

#66 buzzsawmonkey 11/2/2006 11:51AM PST

Isn't a tiny Muslim population exerting control over a much larger non-Muslim population an example of imperialism? Of colonialism? Even--once sharia is applied across the board, and dhimmitude becomes the lot of the majority--of (gasp) apartheid?

Where's that leftist seething?

They've already taken to blowing up Buddhist monks because they inhabit the land the Muslims want.

Shouldn't that be a hate crime?

I believe in the muslim world this is called "entertainment."

#64 pegcity

Mmmm ... soylent green.

UK Channel 4 just did a Palestinian eye view of the atrocity of the shelling of a family on the beach.

Chyron

Your friend should still be safe in the N 2/3 of the country. My friend has been there in a similar capacity and has never had a problem near Bangkok. For a few years anyway...

This makes me somewhat sad

Europeans' technology made them "smarter" and "faster."

Theres a difference between intelligence and having access to information, the average European still didnt know how to read and believed in magic and curses. I dont know if they were smarter, but they were better able to adapt to new situations.

Not sure what you mean by faster. Did Europeans run faster. Did they have faster boats? Because Europeans tended to be short in stature that makes being fast difficult.

Do you mean they were open-minded, flexible, adaptable, and adventurous?

Europeans were definatley more open minded than other peoples. Note the adaptation of customs and dress of peoples that they came in contact with. Also the adaptation of military techniques and technologies. They were better able to adapt to changing conditions due to a culture that favored change as opposed to manintaining the status quo.

Why? Were their feet nailed to the ground? Why didn't they explore? Why didn't they look? Why didn't they imagine?

Thats a good question wondered it myself. Why did all the indigenous peoples of the world live in primitive conditions.

Its the same everywhere. Always wondered if contact had never have been made whether the indigenous peoples of the world would still be living in those conditions.

Im not a cultural anthropologist so i cant really speculate. All ive taken is some basic world history courses.

#74 nonic 11/2/2006 11:58AM PST
#50 Elric66

Amazing how such a small population took over like that. Thais are real pussies. Even France held out longer with a larger Muslim population.

That may be unfair. This was a coup while the sitting government were in NY for the UN bash.

And as for Thais being inferior men -- it ain't over yet.

There WAS a majority population being harrassed by a minority while the majority government wasn't doing enough to protect them.

Now, it's a majority population (big majority) directly at odds with their own government.

I think this is a wait-and-see situation brewing.

Are you telling me the Thai military is mostly Muslim? Cant have a coup unless the military backs you.

#81 bweep 11/2/2006 12:02PM PST
UK Channel 4 just did a Palestinian eye view of the atrocity of the shelling of a family on the beach.

Im sure they were fair and gave Israel's side of it.

*sarc*

OT

Dont forget to watch Obsession on Fox News this Saturday at 8pm. ED Hill is host. Tivo if you cant watch it.

#82 Spenser (with an S) 11/2/2006 12:02PM PST

Your friend should still be safe in the N 2/3 of the country. My friend has been there in a similar capacity and has never had a problem near Bangkok. For a few years anyway...

He's not leaving for a few months, and plans on being there at least a year (I believe). So while I agree, now the north is a safe zone, I fear that once he gets there it will slowly creep north, and he's going to be trapped there when Sharia law finally hits full swing.

#66 buzzsawmonkey

Leftists ignore Muslims words and deeds for several reasons.

1) In their worldview, the underdog is always the victim and victims are always righteous. They have decided that Muslims are victims.

2) They have made a devils bargain in Europe (worldwide leaders of lefty thought)of importing Muslims to keep their electoral majorities. Its no longer about keeping the social welfare system going with foreign workers, since many arent working, its about votes.

3) While they disagree with Muslims worldview, they, in their supreme arrogance, believe that they can change Muslims minds and attitudes over time through the power of their personalities and wisdom.

4) They are, at heart, anti-semitic, as are Muslims and can find common ground with them there. They also believe the canard that if the Jews would abandon Israel or if the West would abandon Israel to Muslim takeover the Muslims would drop their anamous toward the West.

5) The more radical of the leftists believe any take over or attack on Western societies to be a good thing which would allow them to step in and create a socialist utopia. The majority of leftists simply dont think Western culture is worth defending and refuse to do so against any enemy.

#85 Elric66

Are you telling me the Thai military is mostly Muslim? Cant have a coup unless the military backs you.

I don't know whether the rank and file are muslim or Buddhist. But the top general was muslim. Isn't HE the guy who became PM?

The king or somebody with the power to had appointed this muslim general who supposedly would have more influence with the muslim trouble-makers in the south and could do more to bring peace.

I guess he did. But the islam kind of "peace."

OT

It seems kinda slow and mellow in lizard land today. Is it the calm before the Rovian orchestrated storm?

I did notice this on the right side

Police arrest 10,733 fugitives in U.S.-led sweep

Of course now we have to actually try them all...

I just thought of something...this is an obvious attempt by Karl Rove to prevent 10,733 democrats from voting on Tuesday.

/loonie mode off

Thai kickboxing is so bad ass. Those guys will even fight bare knuckles.

I don't ever see Sharia taking hold in Bangkok. There would be a monster muslim ass kicking.

#90 nonic 11/2/2006 12:12PM PST
#85 Elric66

Are you telling me the Thai military is mostly Muslim? Cant have a coup unless the military backs you.

I don't know whether the rank and file are muslim or Buddhist. But the top general was muslim. Isn't HE the guy who became PM?

The king or somebody with the power to had appointed this muslim general who supposedly would have more influence with the muslim trouble-makers in the south and could do more to bring peace.

I guess he did. But the islam kind of "peace."

I still cant see the rank and file Buddists participating in a coup ordered by their Muslim general. But then, the stupid fucks put a Muslim general in charge to calm Muslim violence. Hard to feel sorry for Thailand. To me they were even more stupid and cowardly then France. I DO hope they reverse this somehow. But once Islam gets its foot in the door, its usually too late.

The camel is in the tent. Watch out, Thailand.

he would urge the limited use of Islamic law in Thailand’s Muslim-majority south to settle some disputes, especially over inheritance and family affairs

Very bad news for the girls and women of the region. If Thai's aren't familiar with the concept of "honor killing" they will be shortly.

Previous governments have shown little acceptance of Muslim culture.

Yes those darn earlier governments that just couldn't accept time-honored traditions such as honor-raping and the throwing of burning acid into women's faces if they reject a man. Those traditions are as good as anyone's.

Okay, bashing multiculturalism (and multitraditionalism) isn't the most novel thing to do, but still.

Muslim culture should be rejected and condemned, except in cases of harmless things like clothes and food.

A view from across the pond (actually he's currently in the States):

[Link: www.brusselsjournal.com...]

Islam, the flesh eating disease of civilzation.

...to settle some disputes, especially over inheritance and family affairs

Honor killings, wife-beating, child abuse, apostacy and forced marriages to first cousins are all "family affairs". I wonder how a Sharia court will rule on those cases?

STANBUL, Turkey (CNN) -- Police say they have arrested a man who allegedly fired a pistol into the air outside the Italian consulate in Istanbul, then shouted slogans in protest of Pope Benedict XVI's upcoming visit.

The man, who was identified by police sources as Ibrahim Ak, according to CNN Turk, threw the gun on the grounds of the consulate shortly before his arrest on Thursday.

"I don't want him here, if he was here now I would strangle him with my bare hands," the suspect, who identified himself as Ibrahim Ak, 26, told a Dogan news agency television camera as he was detained by police, according to The Associated Press...
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

#84 pegcity

Theres a difference between intelligence and having access to information

Agreed. And that's my point. The basic native intelligence of most humans is probably pretty darn close, and always was. But figuring out what kind of information is important, how to use it, how to store it (written language), how communicate it, how to build on it -- that all makes one culture "smarter" than another.

As for "faster," certainly I did mean their technology: boats, wheeled transport, English longbow, later guns and cannon, all the machines and engines that drove the industrial revolution.

Any culture that depended on literally running on their feet.... :-) They might look good in the marathons today, but --

They were better able to adapt to changing conditions due to a culture that favored change as opposed to manintaining the status quo.

I think that's the key issue.

European culture -- starting with the ancient Greeks -- was heavily invested in reason and logic and intellectual pursuit.

Why did all the indigenous peoples of the world live in primitive conditions.

Actually.... Why did some indigenous people remain in primitive conditions? Because, obviously, the conquerors did not.

Probably a lot of factors. But I think probably European Christianity was a big advantage to European cultures, with its emphasis on reason, separation of church and state, worth of the individual, equality before God, etc.

But altogether -- my point is that some cultures, for one reason or another, in one way or another, self-select at least to some extent to be either conquerors or victims. Not that they seek victimhood (say, for instance, American red Indians), but their culture kind of sets them up to be the victims -- not the conquerors.

Elric66

My Cabal sent a DVD copy to every member of the Senate, and selected members of the media.

Gitmo monsters rooting for Democrats

News and gossip spread so efficiently among prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay detention center that many are sufficiently informed to debate the potential outcome of Tuesday's U.S. congressional election, their captors say.

The approximately 430 suspected al Qaeda and Taliban prisoners held at the remote
U.S. Navy base in southeast Cuba have no access to television, radio, newspapers or the Internet and receive only censored mail and carefully screened books and magazines.

But they pick up bits of information about the outside world from lawyers, guards, interpreters, interrogators and other visitors and relay it from cell to cell in what a former camp official used to call jokingly the "DIN" or detainee information network.

"There's very little that they do not learn," said Paul Rester, the camp's intelligence director.

"They'll be out there in the rec yard talking about the upcoming election and the impact if the Democrats are elected. They believe, like a lot of people, that a change in administration would change policy. I guess there's some who might speculate it would change in their favor, meaning you know, the closure of the facility."

#104 Ben Hur 11/2/2006 12:36PM PST
Elric66

My Cabal sent a DVD copy to every member of the Senate, and selected members of the media.

Copy of what?

Not unexpected at LGF

For a bunch of foaming at the mouth, fascist whack jobs, we sure turn out to be right a lot.

It's going to be a shame seeing things like this and this dynamited.

Goodbye, Thailand. This is how it will go in other countries as well. People afraid of those who threaten to kill them will bend their knees to the most primitive culture on the face of the earth, just to buy the right to live a little longer. If the fairly tough Thais caved in this easily, imagine how fast France and Sweden and Finland and Holland and Spain will go. Islamists are making it look easy.

#75 MandyManners

Don't be surprised if mosques are built over the cemetaries.

You mean like this?

#103 nonic
Don't forget the Jews. Hashem gave them laws and tradition that fostered record/history keeping, intellectual pursuits (such as arguing with each other LOL) and a value system that spread throughout any culture that didn't kill 'em.
At least that's the way this Gentile understands it!

#109 Coeur de Lion

If the fairly tough Thais caved in this easily

I don't know all the details of what happened in Thailand during the past few weeks, but an overnight coup -- which it was -- does not mean the people "caved." It means their government was taken away from them.

Maybe the islamists will firmly take full control, and the Thai people will let it happen.

Or maybe there will be civil war.

The new Muslim prime minister of Thailand, installed by military coup, has apologized to Muslims in the south.

And he’s urging the “limited use” of shari’a law.

Wondering if we'll see this in 2009, if a Dem (Shillary?) wins the White House?

/shudder

/pulling my collar up, to hide my neck

#111 whosoever

My dear, I NEVER forget the Jews. :-) Whom I deeply respect and revere -- and without whom very little of Western civilization could have happened. Certainly, Christianity would not have.

#115 nonic
I didn't mean it as a criticism, I just wanted to chime in
:)

#110 beblebrox

Where is that?

Thailand 95% Buddhists, 4% Muslim, 1% other. And your P.M. and leading General are Muslim? You're screwed, Islam metastasized at just 4%?

Where are the defenders of "moderate," Islam? See how this is accelerating? Meanwhile our "secular humanists," are busy erasing the ONLY thing that has ever stood up to Islam, and that is Christianity. Create the vacumn for the Borg to infest your soft gooey center. One satisfaction if we loose, I can watch Rosie O'Donald and Barbara Striesand in Burkas

#112 buzzsawmonkey

I was thinking of Angkor Wat, too.

#116 whosoever

I didn't take it as a criticism. :-)

Lavish wedding video sparks outrage

BANGKOK (Reuters) - A leaked video of the lavish wedding laid on by Myanmar junta supremo Than Shwe for his daughter has sparked outrage among ordinary people in the military-ruled and deeply impoverished nation.

In a 10-minute clip posted on the Internet, bride Thandar Shwe is seen decked out in layers of pearls and sparkling stones that appear to be diamonds, and standing beside her husband as he pours champagne over a cascade of wine glasses.

After a reception for hundreds of guests at which a five-tiered wedding cake is cut, the happy couple are seen posing before an ornate gold-braid bridal suite bed, complete with red canopy stretching up to the ceiling.

Even before the video surfaced, the July wedding was the talk of the town in Yangon, the former Burma's leafy, colonial-era capital, amid reports of gifts including luxury cars and houses worth $50 million -- nearly three times the 2005 health budget for a population of 53 million.

OT

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You wanna know what a non-Muslim seething looks like? You'd know if you looked at me right now, having read this news.

/PBIMF - [My] Punching Bag Is My Friend

#111 whosoever

I think Europes forgotten that it is necessary to adapt. Instead of seeing the world the way it is , it sees the world the way it should be. Just one big multicultural planet where all traditions and peoples are equal.

Instead of learning from the past, Europe has decided the past needs to be banished in order to fulfill some socialist dream.

Socialism is such a backwards way of thinking that only Europeans and assorted moonbats could actually believe it these days, not even the Chinese are buying it anymore.

Instead of adapting and understanding their enemies and figuring out how to fight back they are sitting back and hoping that if they wish hard enough the world will comply in their multiculti utopian dream.

Reality is going to hit Europe like a ton of bricks , thats if its not already.

#64 pegcity

Ummmmmmm - Goo!

#122 Gin Blossom

I'm still trying to get my ballot measure to evict Berkeley and all alumni from the US to actually be placed on the ballot.

From the Berkeley website on Impeaching Bush.. which is Measure H on the Nov. 7th Ballot

Argulets and Talking Points
George Bush Should be Impeached

Bush has committed several acts which justify impeachment. Click on the link for more details.

1. Bush lied to Congress and the American public about the reasons for invading Iraq.
2. Bush conducted illegal wiretaps of American citizens.
3. Bush violated International Law by invading a sovereign country for illegal purposes.
4. Bush violated the Geneva Convention by torturing prisoners of war.
5. Bush held prisoners without formal charges and without legal representation. [1]
6. Bush used government funds for domestic political propaganda. [NYT] [2]
7. The Bush team used uniformed military personnel for Republican party political purposes. [1] [2]
8. Bush was negligent in his slow response to help victims of Hurricane Katrina.
9. Bush shows contempt towards our Constitution and our democratic ideals.

"because we love America"

[Link: www.impeachbush.tv...]

Say WHAT?!

You might recall that Prince Charles and Camilla are visiting Pakistan. Here's a piece I just came across over at dhimmiwatch reporting some of the Prince's latest comments. Nice pic of Camilla too - in full muslim gear.

Islamic teaching could resolve world problems -- Prince Charles

Dhimmi Prince Charlie prescribes Islam for what ails the world. Apparently he thinks it's a positive thing to come out publicly for the same thing for which Osama bin Laden, Omar Bakri, and others of like mind are striving. From the Kuwaiti News Agency (KUNA), with thanks to Voltaire:

ISLAMABAD, Oct 31 (KUNA) -- Prince Charles Tuesday said that the world problems could be resolve by following Islamic teachings, as Islam is a religion of peace and brotherhood.

Prince Charles while addressing a ceremony during his visit to Fatima Jinnah Women University (FJWU) stressed on better relations between Islam and other religions.

He said that clash of civilizations could be averted by following the teaching of Islam and Quraan.

Thank G_d our founders had the good since to give the British monarchy the boot and not establish another. Maybe our cousins across the pond should follow suit. Otherwise, it appears that Brits who do not want to be muslim had best be making tracks for elsewhere.

#126 Kragar (proud to be kafir) 11/2/2006 01:07PM PST

#122 Gin Blossom

I'm still trying to get my ballot measure to evict Berkeley and all alumni from the US to actually be placed on the ballot.

Maybe we could divorce California?

130 galloping granny

There are two California's..

:D

#118 jehu 11/2/2006 01:00PM PST

One satisfaction if we loose, I can watch Rosie O'Donald and Barbara Striesand in Burkas

I'm not sure that even that would make it tolerable to look in their direction. Some things, a burka just can't cover up.

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#109 Couer de Lion

Goodbye, Thailand. This is how it will go in other countries as well. People afraid of those who threaten to kill them will bend their knees to the most primitive culture on the face of the earth, just to buy the right to live a little longer. If the fairly tough Thais caved in this easily, imagine how fast France and Sweden and Finland and Holland and Spain will go. Islamists are making it look easy.

Just wait and see how fast Americans cave, bendo over, and get on their knees after electing Democrats in large numbers all over this country next Tuesday.

The stupidity of Man knows no bounds.

#134 blackelkspeaks

blackelkspeakskaka

Wow..

Bumpersticker..

Join The Army, travel to exotic distant lands; meet exciting unusual people and kill them

And he’s urging the “limited use” of shari’a law.

Good news for the Thai child-sex industry.

Ugh.

128 galloping granny
Very distressing news and pics ... flip through the photo display and found this one that sort of says it all.

Thanks granny for the - ah, er ... 'heads up'.

/have to alert my Brit friends, too

#130 galloping granny

Hey, I'm in CA. There are plenty of us out here trying to make this a place worth living, its just the fruits and nuts steal all the limelight.

Cut CA in half, between North and South and Southern CA is actually pretty conservative.

OT Reminder:

VOTE. Tuesday. No excuses. VOTE!

//Read it and heed it, Lizards.

#128 galloping granny 11/2/2006 01:07PM PST
Say WHAT?!

You might recall that Prince Charles and Camilla are visiting Pakistan. Here's a piece I just came across over at dhimmiwatch reporting some of the Prince's latest comments. Nice pic of Camilla too - in full muslim gear.

Islamic teaching could resolve world problems -- Prince Charles

Dhimmi Prince Charlie prescribes Islam for what ails the world. Apparently he thinks it's a positive thing to come out publicly for the same thing for which Osama bin Laden, Omar Bakri, and others of like mind are striving. From the Kuwaiti News Agency (KUNA), with thanks to Voltaire:

ISLAMABAD, Oct 31 (KUNA) -- Prince Charles Tuesday said that the world problems could be resolve by following Islamic teachings, as Islam is a religion of peace and brotherhood.

Prince Charles while addressing a ceremony during his visit to Fatima Jinnah Women University (FJWU) stressed on better relations between Islam and other religions.

He said that clash of civilizations could be averted by following the teaching of Islam and Quraan.

Thank G_d our founders had the good since to give the British monarchy the boot and not establish another. Maybe our cousins across the pond should follow suit. Otherwise, it appears that Brits who do not want to be muslim had best be making tracks for elsewhere.

Rumor does have it that he converted.

Note to Sultan Charles

Islamic teaching blew up your fucking buses.

Actually, California is liberal along the coast and red as a beet in the interior.

And guess where all the growth is?

Families with kids are leaving SF and LA in droves. As an example, here in San Francisco, the population is almost 50% "white", but the school district has only NINE percent white kids. 35% are Chinese, the rest are, well, the rest.

The suburbs east of here are still leaning Democrat, but they are not anywhere near as leftie agenda driven as SF and LA.

Over time, this state will become more conservative.

France takes a first step:

Dozens of Muslim employees at France's largest airport have been stripped of their security clearance under suspicion that they visited terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan, airport officials said.

Officials at Charles De Gaulle Airport in Paris took away 72 security passes after more than 100 baggage handlers and cleaners were placed under surveillance for several months.

One employee is alleged to be an acquaintance of would-be shoe-bomber Richard Reid, while another employee was linked to an Algerian resistance group with alleged ties to al-Qaeda, airport officials said.

"There is a suggestion that there were a large number of extreme individuals working near a large number of aircraft that fly all over Europe and into North America," the CBC's David Common said Thursday.

The employees said they are being targeted because they are Muslim. Some have threatened to sue the airport.

CBC

#138 ctrlL 11/2/2006 01:18PM PST

128 galloping granny
Very distressing news and pics ... flip through the photo display and found this one that sort of says it all.

Thanks granny for the - ah, er ... 'heads up'.

/have to alert my Brit friends, too

I am surprised the Sikhs received him so well, given his statements about islam.

Sikhs are not muslims - not by a long shot. They arose several hundred years ago to fight muslims, when the muslims were invading India. Things got quite desperate for the native Hindu, so eventually it was proposed that each family send one child to form a group to infiltrate the muslims. So they dressed like muslims, but their purpose was to act as spies and assassins.

#117 nonic

Northern Cyprus. It's the former Cathedral of St. Sofia; now the Selimiye Mosque

A whole series of views

Sorry about the delay, work calls today.

I sure wish someone could prove that Charles has become a Muslim.

If he has, he cannot be king.

#113 nonic Don't know if you're still around, but put your money on civil war. Unless the Thai people have changed DRAMATICALLY from when I knew them in Vietnam, they are extremely nationalistic and tough enough that they beat the NVA and the VC and their homegrown commies like a drum for a long, long time.

Maybe it was a botched joke.

#141 Elric66 11/2/2006 01:20PM PST

#128 galloping granny 11/2/2006 01:07PM PST
Say WHAT?!

You might recall that Prince Charles and Camilla are visiting Pakistan. Here's a piece I just came across over at dhimmiwatch reporting some of the Prince's latest comments. Nice pic of Camilla too - in full muslim gear.

Islamic teaching could resolve world problems -- Prince Charles

Dhimmi Prince Charlie prescribes Islam for what ails the world. Apparently he thinks it's a positive thing to come out publicly for the same thing for which Osama bin Laden, Omar Bakri, and others of like mind are striving. From the Kuwaiti News Agency (KUNA), with thanks to Voltaire:

ISLAMABAD, Oct 31 (KUNA) -- Prince Charles Tuesday said that the world problems could be resolve by following Islamic teachings, as Islam is a religion of peace and brotherhood.

Prince Charles while addressing a ceremony during his visit to Fatima Jinnah Women University (FJWU) stressed on better relations between Islam and other religions.

He said that clash of civilizations could be averted by following the teaching of Islam and Quraan.

Thank G_d our founders had the good since to give the British monarchy the boot and not establish another. Maybe our cousins across the pond should follow suit. Otherwise, it appears that Brits who do not want to be muslim had best be making tracks for elsewhere.

Rumor does have it that he converted.

I would buy that. I've been thinking that for a while as I've seen more and more pics of him dressed up as a muslim rather than the Crown Prince of England. His ancestors must be reeling in their graves.

#135 jamgarr

blackelkspeakskaka

Why? Are you trying to say that I'm wrong in believing that many Americans are just as craven as the Eurabians? Let's remember that JEffinK only beat Bush in the last presidential election by a pissant two percent. That means we all live on the razor's edge. The sorry fact is that half this country is now, and always has been, suffering from recto-cranial inversion ever since FDR. And the malign influence of this human dreck in our communities ain't over yet.

Force-feeding altered for Ramadan

GUANTANAMO BAY—Two hunger strikers at a controversial American prison in Cuba had their force-feeding schedule adjusted so they could fast during Ramadan, doctors said.

/sweet irony

#151

I just don't see the drastic decline you predict - for most purposes Wednesday will be like Monday, regardless of the election results

Somebody is full of shiite. The koran says, nay demands, shari'a law is all or nothing. Surely you've all seen the picture of mohammed holding his scrotum saying'Hey, I got yer limited use right here'.

OT: Remember the headline a few days ago about how Global Warming will cause a trillion-gazillion dollars in damage? The reports never did explain how the figure was arrived at (as if that was the point, right?), but the author was an "Expert Economist" so he knows what he's talking about.

Or did he? Seems 25 years ago he was an co-signiture of a paper that declared Margaret Thatcher's policies were going to bankrupt Britain. We all know how that worked out.

One of the most misguided ideas in any debate is the idea that the consensus view is usually, if not always, right. All too frequently the accepted wisdom has been completely and comprehensively wrong...

...Twenty-five years ago Britain was at an economic crossroads. The credibility of the British economy was collapsing as inflation and unemployment soared, manufacturing output slumped and the national debt spiralled upwards. Margaret Thatcher and her Chancellor, Sir Geoffrey Howe, concluded that drastic action was required. Taxes were raised by £4bn (then a huge sum) in the 1981 Budget in order to provide scope for lower interest rates and tackle public sector borrowing. There was, unsurprisingly, substantial political opposition.

But, of more interest, 364 economists signed a letter to The Times stating that there was "no basis in economic theory or supporting evidence" for Sir Geoffrey's policy and that it threatened Britain's "social and political stability". An alternative course of action must be pursued, these savants insisted.

RE: PRINCE CHARLES

I don't know if he converted...

...but I do know that he lately said that he would like the traditional CHRISTIAN King Crowning cermony (if he becomes King) to be more "multi-faith".

But let's be serious here...if he REALLY converted...don't you think the entire world would know?

Well, there is a history of British monarchs having an affinity for totalitarian regimes.

It brings them back to the glorious past when they actually had something to do with ruling.

#146 beblebrox 11/2/2006 01:23PM PST

#117 nonic

Northern Cyprus. It's the former Cathedral of St. Sofia; now the Selimiye Mosque

A whole series of views

Sorry about the delay, work calls today.

OH my G_d! That is awful. They have completely defaced it. Knocked out all the beautiful old stained glass, ruined all the carvings.

"islam is the religion of piece....lets just all get along...."

#152 Killian Bundy - Hey bud, hope you're doing ok!
I don't get forced feeding in the first place. If a prisoner refuses to eat and dies as a direct result thereof, that can only be suicide. We didn't refuse to feed him, we didn't even refuse to feed him "proper food"; it was HIS decision to starve himself to death.

#111 whosoever

Don't forget the Jews.

Mosiac Law was one of the first to apply equally to the leaders and followers alike. In other words, Moses couldn't bear false witness either.

This idea of equality under the law is at the basis of democracy and freedom.

#156 WrathofG-d 11/2/2006 01:29PM PST

RE: PRINCE CHARLES

I don't know if he converted...

...but I do know that he lately said that he would like the traditional CHRISTIAN King Crowning cermony (if he becomes King) to be more "multi-faith".

But let's be serious here...if he REALLY converted...don't you think the entire world would know?

No, I don't. As I recall there is a law in Britain that says that the Monarch must be a member in good standing of the Church of England...stems from the days of Henry VIII and the religous wars between his children (Mary, James, Elizabeth I).

If Charles was known to be muslim he would be disqualified to ascend the throne. Depending on the date of his conversion, that might also affect his children's rights to the throne.

O.T. Sorry:

I just lost my job. Not W's fault, and not Kerry's.

Not even mine, really...

But...Can I get some "Hey Chubby Vegan it's gonna be okay?" I really admire you guys and it would help me greatly.

Thanks.

#153 jamgarr

I just don't see the drastic decline you predict - for most purposes Wednesday will be like Monday, regardless of the election results

I think you're a Pollyanna.

Wednesday won't be like Monday if the Democrats win. Wednesday will become the day that Americans cave, bend over, and get on their knees, capitulating to Moslem depradations around the globe. Count on it.

#151 blackelkspeaks 11/2/2006 01:25PM PST

#135 jamgarr

blackelkspeakskaka

Why? Are you trying to say that I'm wrong in believing that many Americans are just as craven as the Eurabians? Let's remember that JEffinK only beat Bush in the last presidential election by a pissant two percent. That means we all live on the razor's edge. The sorry fact is that half this country is now, and always has been, suffering from recto-cranial inversion ever since FDR. And the malign influence of this human dreck in our communities ain't over yet.

I don't get what he was trying to say either. Unless he is such a complete fool that he does not know of whom you speak by your nic.

#162

Sorry to hear. I don't know how old you are but one thing you certainly learn when you get some gray hairs is that things really do get better after they suck.

#66 buzzsawmonkey

Isn't a tiny Muslim population exerting control over a much larger non-Muslim population an example of imperialism? Of colonialism? Even--once sharia is applied across the board, and dhimmitude becomes the lot of the majority--of (gasp) apartheid?

Where's that leftist seething?

A tiny Muslim population exerting control over a much larger non-Muslim population ismore an example of a lack of balls amongst the non-Muslim population and an example of their debasement.

The leftists don't seethe at those they side with, i.e. Islamists.

#163 blackelkspeaks 11/2/2006 01:34PM PST

#153 jamgarr

I just don't see the drastic decline you predict - for most purposes Wednesday will be like Monday, regardless of the election results

I think you're a Pollyanna.

Wednesday won't be like Monday if the Democrats win. Wednesday will become the day that Americans cave, bend over, and get on their knees, capitulating to Moslem depradations around the globe. Count on it.

Not entirely. The Democrats are not going to take the White House on Tuesday. At best they are going to get a bare majority. What will happen is that absolutely nothing will be accomplished prior to the next election.

I can't see Bush bending over to kis their ass - vetos left and right. They might try to impeach him, but I can't see the Republicans deserting him - nor at least a few Democrats.

Not kiss your ass goodbye time yet - just internecine warfare in a very big way.

#162 chubby vegan

Remember, You ARE MIGHTY!

162 Chubby Vegan

"Hey Chubby Vegan, its gonna be OK."

But surely you can find some way to make it W.'s fault.

Now as for Prince Charles chumming around in Pakistan, word is that he bought a nice handmade niqab for Fido. You know to improve the sights around Buckingtooth Castle.

#118 jehu

... I can watch Rosie O'Donald and Barbara Striesand in Burkas

Actually, it will be more like this:, jehu...

~Norsk Troll

Chubby:

You really lose your job? Depending on what you did to lose it..."that's horrible".

Don't fret though...i was out of work for almost a full year... best vacation of my life :D

Besides, now you will have more LGF time.

Carridine, if you are there, perhaps it is time to invest in some cast iron turtleneck sweaters.

#162 chubby vegan 11/2/2006 01:33PM PST

O.T. Sorry:

I just lost my job. Not W's fault, and not Kerry's.

Not even mine, really...

But...Can I get some "Hey Chubby Vegan it's gonna be okay?" I really admire you guys and it would help me greatly.

Thanks.

Sorry chubby. Cheer up. Trust me, I've lost more than one job. Threw away a couple of them too. Every cloud really does have a silver lining. Spruce up the old resume. You might end up with something better.

Interesting news on global warming,

A team at the Danish National Space Center has discovered how cosmic rays from exploding stars can help to make clouds in the atmosphere. The results support the theory that cosmic rays influence Earth’s climate.

An essential role for remote stars in everyday weather on Earth has been revealed by an experiment at the Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen. It is already well-established that when cosmic rays, which are high-speed atomic particles originating in exploded stars far away in the Milky Way, penetrate Earth’s atmosphere they produce substantial amounts of ions and release free electrons. Now, results from the Danish experiment show that the released electrons significantly promote the formation of building blocks for cloud condensation nuclei on which water vapour condenses to make clouds. Hence, a causal mechanism by which cosmic rays can facilitate the production of clouds in Earth’s atmosphere has been experimentally identified for the first time.

Seems GW isn't caused by GW Bush after all...

HELL YES!

THANKS SILHOUETTE!

OT: Here is something someone posted on FreeRepublic. I don't know what to think of it, but it sounds ominous:

To: Dajjal
Mama Siobhan says to thank you for this post and ping. I for my part thank you too. She says that references to Khorosan are on the rise on al-Djezeera and al-Arabia. Apparently some time yesterday there was an Arab broadcast from Qatar of an image of armed men marching with black flags and said they were in Khorosan and would head to Iraq. The visual and verbal cues of the Mahdi's dawning are being played out all over the Arab and other Muslim media according to my mother. Perhaps you have seen this as well.

54 posted on 11/02/2006 11:13:06 AM EST by Maeve (Pray the Rosary for protection for the Pope)
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Uncovered meat left out in Cairo:

Egyptians are horrified by the news that women have been assaulted by hordes of young men in the centre of the capital, Cairo.

The incidents were first reported online by Egyptian bloggers, some of whom saw large number of men harassing the women and ripping off their clothes.

It all happened over the Eid al-Fitr period starting on 23 October, as thousands of young men thronged the streets of central Cairo to celebrate the end of the fasting month of Ramadan.

One blogger who took pictures of what happened dubbed the incidents "sexual voracity down town".

According to the bloggers, the attackers targeted veiled as well as unveiled women who happened to be on their own.

The state media ignored the incidents, but ordinary Egyptians where shocked when they heard for the first time eyewitness accounts broadcast on the private television channel Dream.

Women chased

"We saw one girl being chased by a man, her blouse torn off, she ran inside a restaurant," one eyewitness reported.

Seconds later young boys were shouting that there was another one by the Miami cinema. We went there and saw another girl surrounded by a crowd trying to assault her. She managed to run inside a nearby building.

"A third girl jumped into a cab as she was being chased. But the taxi couldn't move because of the crowd. Then they tried to pull the driver out of the car then the girl herself," the witness told Dream TV.

One eyewitness was too embarrassed to recount what he saw: "There were youths harassing the young women. What a shame! I really can not say any more about it."

Social malaise

One blogger wrote that as the police failed to protect the women, shop keepers had to intervene.

A shop owner described to the TV station what happened: "We took the girl inside and locked the door. There were four or five of us. But there were hundreds of young men outside trying to break down the door."

The bloggers blamed the incidents on widespread sexual frustration among Egypt's youths.

Most of them cannot afford to get married and premarital sex is strictly forbidden.

One commentator said that this was evidence of the breakdown of law and order in Egypt.

Another said the state deployed the police only to suppress political dissent but could not care less about the welfare of its own citizens.

A psychologist, Amr Abu Khaleel, attributed the predatory behaviour to the possible use of drugs and the breakdown of traditional values.

One prominent writer and journalist, Nabeel Sharaf al-Deen, said that such behaviour was the symptom of a deeper malaise in Egyptian society and warned that such incidents were the first stirrings of much bigger social unrest.

A statement by the ministry of the interior played down the incident, adding that it had not received any complaints from the public. It urged those who had anything to report to contact the police.

BBC

There goes Thailand.

More anti-American hatred
in official PA daily's cartoons

#176 Baldy 11/2/2006 01:41PM PST

OT: Here is something someone posted on FreeRepublic. I don't know what to think of it, but it sounds ominous:

To: Dajjal
Mama Siobhan says to thank you for this post and ping. I for my part thank you too. She says that references to Khorosan are on the rise on al-Djezeera and al-Arabia. Apparently some time yesterday there was an Arab broadcast from Qatar of an image of armed men marching with black flags and said they were in Khorosan and would head to Iraq. The visual and verbal cues of the Mahdi's dawning are being played out all over the Arab and other Muslim media according to my mother. Perhaps you have seen this as well.

54 posted on 11/02/2006 11:13:06 AM EST by Maeve (Pray the Rosary for protection for the Pope)
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That is pretty ominous. Islamic end-times prophecy predicts that the mahdi will appear from Khorsan (in Iran) with the men under black banners.

The "pray the rosary for the protection of the Pope" bothers me - one islamic group has already demanded that he be arrested when he lands in Turkey. I do wish he would cancel.

My instinct is that you should send this post and the link where you found it (maybe even take a screen shot) to the CIA and Defense Intelligence. I'm not sure how exactly you would do that though. Maybe someone else has an idea.

#169 No way I would try to make it W's fault. Just a market fluctuation that my whole industry is facing.

But, gonna be conservative during the good times, so gonna take the responsibility for the challenging times.

Wouldn't give Kerry the satisfaction if it was his fault.

#101 buzzsawmonkey

I know. I felt like pontificating and your post gave me a good excuse.

More I read about Europe more it feels like its too late for them. I still think they can turn it around if they can summon the will, but they probably wont. Too worried about global warming, the Current Evil American Republican (Reagan, Bush, insert name here) or some such nonsense I suppose.

The religion of liberalism is as powerful to the faithful as Islam is to muslims and there are many true believers of both faiths across the pond.

The smaller countries and Spain may yet be overrun, but I believe eventually France, Germany and England will push back against the muslims, but odds are it will come in the form of a strongman savior who then consolidates power, nationalizes property and industry and converts the countries into soviet-like states with farce elections like in Venezuela and Iran. The real push and fighting will probably begin when demographics put the Muslims into an electoral majority. The Muslims are good allies to the socialists right now, but they arent going to grant them real power. They are currently confident that they can deal with that situation when the time comes. That is of course assuming that enough Muslims can be kept out of the military. If that doesnt happen all bets are off.

Charles:

MEMRI has released a 43 minute film compiling Arab and Iranian reaction to 9/11. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm sure MEMRI has done a great job as always. They posted it in segments on Youtube, but Youtube flagged it as offensive, so only members can view it.

I'm going to sign up just to see this.

Since the attacks on September 11, 2001, The Middle East Media Research Institute has monitored, translated, and recorded what was said in the Arab and Iranian press about that day. Prominent journalists, members of academia, leading religious figures, and even Arab government officials helped shape conspiracies about what "really" happened.

The carefully documented collection is now available as a PDF and includes a compilation of articles and editorials from the mainstream Arabic and Persian language press, as well as transcripts from television programs.

#163 blackelkspeaks 11/2/2006 01:34PM PST

#153 jamgarr

I just don't see the drastic decline you predict - for most purposes Wednesday will be like Monday, regardless of the election results

I think you're a Pollyanna.

Wednesday won't be like Monday if the Democrats win. Wednesday will become the day that Americans cave, bend over, and get on their knees, capitulating to Moslem depradations around the globe. Count on it.

This is exactly the sort of rhetoric the extremists love to see.

#177 buzzsawmonkey 11/2/2006 01:43PM PST

#143 scott in east bay

Families with kids are leaving SF and LA in droves. As an example, here in San Francisco, the population is almost 50% "white", but the school district has only NINE percent white kids. 35% are Chinese, the rest are, well, the rest.

The Chicago euphemism used to describe schools like that is "majority minority."

I have to tell you, no matter what color I was I would not want my children in school in California, starting especially with the state policy on teaching islam while outlawing Christianity.

California has one of the two biggest textbook markets in the country so all of the textbooks available are geared to appeal to that market. I find myself having to buy books that are decades old to avoid the crap.

#176 Baldy

It should sound ominous.

Khorosan

Greater Khorasan is a modern term for eastern territories of ancient Persia. The very term khorasan means east in Middle Persian, or more exactly where sun comes from or land of sunrise. Greater Khorasan included territories that presently are part of Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan

Greater Khorasan contained mostly Herat, Balkh, Kabul and Ghazni (now in Afghanistan), Nishapur, Tus and Sistan (now in Iran), Merv and Sanjan (now in Turkmenistan), Samarqand and Bukhara (both now in Uzbekistan) as well as the Bactrian regions (now in Afghanistan and Tajikistan).

Khorasan's boundaries have varied greatly during ages. The term was loosely applied to all territories of Persia that lied east and north east of "Kavir-e-namak" and therefore were subjected to change as the size of empire changed. Afghanistan's current regions form the largest parts of Greater Khorasan.

These days, the adjective greater is partly used to distinguish it from Khorasan province, in modern Iran, that forms western parts of these territories. It is also used to indicate that Greater Khorasan encompasses territories that were perhaps called by some other name when they were individually referred to. For example the Bactrian regions in Afghanistan and Tajikistan, Kabulistan (which contained Kabul, Ghazni, Bamian and Peshawar) [1] , Khwarezm (containing Samarqand and Bukhara) [2] .

Until the thirteenth century and the devastating Mongol invasion, Khorasan was considered the cultural capital of Persia (Lorentz 1995).

-snip-

and

The world will not come to an end,said Prophet Muhammad , until a man from my family (Ahlulbayt) and of my name shall be master of the world, When you see a green ensign coming from the direction of Khorasan, then join them, for the Imam of God will be with the standards who will be called al-Mahdi.

The Mahdi will be descended from me, he will be a man with an open countenance and a face with a high nose. He will fill the earth with equity and with justice, just as it has been filled with tyranny and oppression.

(Biharul Anwar, Majlisi)

Khorosan, bearers of the flag

#150 galloping granny 11/2/2006 01:25PM PST

#141 Elric66 11/2/2006 01:20PM PST

#128 galloping granny 11/2/2006 01:07PM PST
Say WHAT?!

Rumor does have it that he converted.

I would buy that. I've been thinking that for a while as I've seen more and more pics of him dressed up as a muslim rather than the Crown Prince of England. His ancestors must be reeling in their graves.

He has been acting too pro Islam and anti Christian not to have converted. He should be shot for treason.

If only the occupation ended.

g-granny, perhaps that explains why almost no one I know anymore has their kids in public schools here. It's either Catholic or generic private school. One of my neighbors home schools her two girls, and I help her out with history, Spanish, and French.

That school district that was the source of the "Islam" lawsuit is right here in the county I live in. I couldn't believe the court upheld it.

If I had kids in that district, they would be on "vacation" during that time, or they would be in the library learning something important (such as how to access "Jihad Watch")

#162 chubby vegan

I just lost my job. Not W's fault, and not Kerry's.

Was it today? Hang in there. It is going to be okay.

181 Ben Hur

From your link:

The Palestinian Authority

"Since the downfall of the former Soviet Union in 1991, the US became the sole superpower in the world, heralding the idea of ‘The new American era.’ Jews implanted in the [nerve] centers of the American nation created theories about this idea which they adopted. This term is based on the fact that the entire world has to be stamped with the seal of Americanization, and that all of the world's countries will be governed by one government, located in New York…

Jew Implants?

:D

Member of Iranian Assembly of Experts Ahmad Khatami in Tehran Friday Sermon: The Republicans in the US Are in a Crisis; Sanctions on Iran Will Harm the West More than Iran
The following are excerpts from a Friday sermon delivered in Tehran by Ahmad Khatami, member of the Iranian Assembly of Experts. The sermon aired on Channel 1, Iranian TV on October 27, 2006.

Ahmad Khatami: The coming days will be very sensitive and fateful days for the Americans. November 7 is the day of elections for the American Congress, and these elections will, in fact, also determine the fate of the U.S. presidential elections.

The fact that Bush says: "My patience has run out," and the fact that within a month, about 100 of their [soldiers] are killed, show the extent of the crisis of the Republicans in America. It seems that in the days to come, as in the past, they will use several tactics.

First, they are trying to shake off their responsibility, or, in other words, to blame others for the problems they themselves have created and spread. In the course of the occupation, according to their own statements, 600,000 Iraqis were killed. So who is responsible for the killing of these 600,000, if not the presence of the occupiers? After all, there are ramifications for all these things. You reap what you sow. Do not blame others for your problems. When some American official says that Iran and Syria are interfering [in Iraq], this constitutes denial of your own responsibility, and will not bring you any relief from your pain. Relief from your pain will only come when you leave Iraq unconditionally.

Crowd: Allah Akbar

Allah Akbar

Khamenei is the leader

Death to those who oppose the rule of the jurisprudent

Death to America

Death to England

Death to the hypocrites (Mojahedin-e Khalq) and Saddam

Death to Israel

Ahmad Khatami: Secondly, in the Islamic world... They are trying to make the Islamic world lose sight of its true enemies - America and the Zionists. In Lebanon, Iraq, and Palestine, the Americans are trying to generate conflict among the peoples to replace the people's conflict with America and the Zionists. They are trying to generate conflict among the people in Palestine, and to generate conflicts between sects, nationalities, and races in Iraq. It is the same in Lebanon, and sadly, we must admit that some of the Lebanese politicians are not aware of the enormity of the plot. Everyone must be aware that under these conditions, what prevents the enemy from achieving its goal is the people's unity in face of the main enemy.

again...

Slouching towards Bethlehem
W.B Yeats

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert.

A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Koskidz support the troops (again)...
Troops Who Don't Need Our Support

The right-wing mob-o-sphere has been alight with a cries about 'the picture' (and why the MSM isn't carrying it). ...

The picture was very, very disturbing to me, and it's taken me all afternoon to figure out why.

These guys from the Minnisota guard are basically holding up a sign saying, "Don't worry about us."

So, the next time I hear some GOP standard say, "Support the troops", I'm going to be thinking about this picture.

I'm not overstating. I couldn't imagine how people who had lost their buddies in war and were facing down snipers and IEDs and death everyday could hold up a sign like that. I looked up the casualty list and found out that this brigade has not taken one casualty.
...

I don't know what is going on, but this picture is probably going to remain one of the most disturbing of the war, for me. I don't know if anyone else feels the same, but I'm never going to hear "Support the Troops" quite the same way, again.

The only good troops are the progressive troops just like gays who don't support the LLL agenda are the targets of scorn.

#179 Van Impe 11/2/2006 01:46PM PST

Uncovered meat left out in Cairo:

I'm surprised al-BBC published this. The Egyptian bloggers have been in a roar over this for several days. One of the things the beeb left out was that as the mob ran around grabbing everyone in a skirt to rape they were screaming "we're going to f**K" ... the guy who wrote the blog I read this am was about in tears over it.

re my post in 185.

The entire transcript is available in pdf. This report is a treasure trove of information. Here's one entry from the table of contents..

September 17, 2001, Special Dispatch No. 268 – Terror in America (2):
Hamas Weekly: 13 “Allah Has Answered Our Prayers; the Sword of Vengeance has Reached America and Will Strike Again and Again”

In one sense, the knowledge that Islam is insideously creeping across the globe like a virus is ominous. And certainly, the unfortunate nations that succumb to sharia law and the rule of the clerics will no doubt suffer in the initial violent assaults.

But here's an observation - all violent, inhuman systems have an inherent self-destruct gene in their DNA. They are pre-destined to fail. It's only a matter of time.

In the case of Islam, its proponents have already over-reached their capacity to absorb and govern their "conquered" (i.e., perceived to have conquered) territory. The populations they have intimidated into cowed acquiescence will soon rebel with real force.

Humans will not indefinitely submit to irrational violence. They will strike back.

When that happens, the entire "caliphate" will crumble like a house of cards.

185 mich-again

I sincerely hope Charles posts your link..

“When the twin towers collapsed… My lungs filled with air and I breathed in relief, as I had never breathed before."
'Ali 'Uqleh 'Ursan,
Syrian Arab Writers Association chairman
Al-Usbu' Al-Adabi (Damascus)
September 15, 2001

#191 scott in east bay

That school district that was the source of the "Islam" lawsuit is right here in the county I live in. I couldn't believe the court upheld it.

Is that Contra Costa? My sister used to live there (then Butte County). She evacuated back to Texas before her first son started school (he's in college now).

She said there was no way her kids were going to school in CA.

Daniel Pipes is following bonnie Prince Charles and his possible reversion to Islam:

Is Prince Charles a Convert to Islam?

and than there is this:

Prince Charles of Arabia
by Ronni L. Gordon and David M. Stillman
Middle East Quarterly
September 1997

[T]he effort for these years to live in the dress of Arabs, and to imitate their mental foundation, quitted me of my English self, and let me look at the West and its conventions with new eyes: they destroyed it all for me.
- T.E.Lawrence Seven Pillars of Wisdom1

Prince Charles has often surprised his future subjects, but few shocks match the allegations of a newspaper article that appeared in October 1996:2

The idea of the Prince of Wales lugging around a prayer mat and turning to face Mecca five times a day sounds a tad unlikely - but, then again, so did confessing to adultery on prime-time television a couple of years ago. So perhaps no one should be shocked by the suggestion in a forthcoming book that Prince Charles has converted to Islam.

This claim was put forward by no less a personage than the grand mufti of Cyprus: "Did you know that Prince Charles has converted to Islam. Yes, yes. He is a Muslim. I can't say more. But it happened in Turkey. Oh, yes, he converted all right. When you get home check on how often he travels to Turkey. You'll find that your future king is a Muslim."3 "Nonsense," replied a Buckingham Palace spokesman, denying Charles's supposed conversion. Lord St. John of Fawsley, a constitutional expert, is no less dubious, commenting that "The Prince of Wales is a loyal member of the Church of England."4 Some time later, a leak to the press told of Charles's "desire to play a greater role in the Church of England," an apparent attempt to reinforce the prince's Anglican credentials.5

#185 mich-again
You can also get a password through bugmenot

chubby vegan,

Change is usually a good thing. Think of it as an opportunity to reflect and move on to things bigger and better. Necessity is the mother of all invention.

#191 scott in east bay 11/2/2006 01:57PM PST

g-granny, perhaps that explains why almost no one I know anymore has their kids in public schools here. It's either Catholic or generic private school. One of my neighbors home schools her two girls, and I help her out with history, Spanish, and French.

That school district that was the source of the "Islam" lawsuit is right here in the county I live in. I couldn't believe the court upheld it.

If I had kids in that district, they would be on "vacation" during that time, or they would be in the library learning something important (such as how to access "Jihad Watch")

I'm not so sure they would scott. One of the parents complaints was that the school would not excuse the kids for religious reasons.

And down in MA one father insisted that his child not be taught multi-cultural sex education in kindergarten. The school tried to prosecute HIM. The case was dismissed, but the dad has been permanently barred from school property. In MA that means that he cannot vote except by absentee, cannot attend any school events for his son, cannot go to parent teacher conferences, cannot stand on school property with a sign on election day...

It really is getting to the point that if you do not want your children indoctrinated and propagandized the only choice available in many places is to home school.

200 Gin Blossom

The MSM has done evrything possible to lock away the video clips of Palis dancing and celebrating on 9/11. It was one of the few proofs of the joyful Arab reaction, but it was widely dismissed by the Paliticians as a isolated incident.

The MEMRI report blows that meme away. And the MSM can't squelch it.

#197 Thanks for the link. From said link:

I talked about about how it is extremely difficult for Egyptian girls, especially the unveiled among them, to walk on Cairo's streets without getting verbally harassed. However, I never thought that the day would come when girls walking in downtown Cairo would get their clothes ripped off, not by a single street lunatic, not by 4 or 5 hormone driven youth, but by throngs of young men shouting "we will f**k, we will f**k".

The whole story started after hundreds, if not thousands of young people, were assembling in front of a cinema waiting for the arrival of movie stars who were going to attend the first screening of their movie. It was the Eid holidays and cinemas were ripe with newly released movies. Nobody knows exactly what happened but hundreds of young men started running towards any moving female creature that was unfortunate enough to be present there. Girls, both veiled and unveiled, were attacked, pulled, and had their clothes ripped off. Two girls from the gulf were surrounded by a mob that pulled off their hair cover and the long black gown that Gulf women wear. Girls started running like crazy in the street, shopkeepers pulled girls to hide them inside their shops, and a taxi carrying a girl was swarmed Bloggers who witnessed this whole ordeal stood at an intersection and warned girls and women not to approach the street where all this was happening. In short, what happened was unimaginable to almost any Egyptian.

Actually sounds like the imfamous Puerto Rican Day parade in NYC a few years back.

Federal Authorities Arrest U.N. Official on Misconduct Charges

A U.N. official at the center of the Turtle Bay procurement scandals, Sanjaya Bahel, was arrested yesterday in New York by federal authorities on charges of misconduct, according to U.N. and federal officials.

Mr. Bahel is accused of using his position at the procurement department to benefit two companies, including the Indian government-owned Telecommunications Consultants India Ltd. He is expected to be arraigned today in federal court. A representative of the two companies, Nishahn Kohli, was also arrested yesterday in Miami.

Mr. Bahel, 55, "allegedly sold his influence as a U.N. procurement official," the U.S attorney for the Southern District of New York, Michael Garcia, said in a statement. "He favored Nishahn Kohli's companies in obtaining and maintaining valuable U.N. contracts, and he personally profited as a result."

HOW is this happening to this country? From the CIA fact book:

Religions: Buddhist 94.6%, Muslim 4.6%, Christian 0.7%, other 0.1% (2000 census)

So now they are running the country?

They get what they deserve.....

#185 mich-again

but Youtube flagged it as offensive

I find the Palis to be offensive.

#208 Kragar

I am sooooo hoping that Kofi gets busted before he can sneak out of NYC after this year.

#199 TXH-42

Humans will not indefinitely submit to irrational violence. They will strike back.

Not necessarily. Islam has basically kept the territory they conquered, Europe being the exception but that was at a time when Christianity was exceptionally strong.

In 2007, Christianity in Europe is dying if not dead already, its population is also dying. They are too old and decayed to fight, they don't believe in G-D, they don't believe in freedom because they really don't know what it is, they have no guns (Muslims will have guns when the time comes) and most importantly their Masters (the intelligensia) are working hand and glove with their new conquerors (which is also something that happen in the initial Muslim conquests). Lee Harris takes on this topic, it is long but a worthy read.

Jihad Then and Now by Lee Harris

185 Mich-again

I downloaded the 2001 PDF.. From an Arab talkshow..

the arab & iranian media on 9/11

Muhammad Al-Tamimi of Amman, a viewer who called in, supported ‘Atwan’s position, stating: “Bin Laden is not a terrorist, as Brother ‘Adlan claims. In the eyes of Muslims throughout the world, bin Laden is fighting a jihad for the sake of Allah. He is one of the drawn swords of Allah, brandished at the faces of the leader of the infidels on the face of the Earth – America – which is also the leader of terrorism. America today is arrogant, and its spokesman says: ‘Who is stronger than me?’ This America sucks the blood of the peoples, and anyone who challenges it or refuses to obey it is persecuted by the judicial system, becoming a terrorist, a violator of human rights, and a danger to world peace.

The bin Laden phenomenon is a natural phenomenon in this [Islamic] nation, after the rulers relinquished jihad at the 1991 Dakar [Senegal] conference, on America’s instructions. As if jihad were a political decision that could be rescinded. Jihad is a divine decision that no one can rescind. Bin Laden is a natural phenomenon in this nation whose rulers have relinquished jihad. It is the rulers who should be fighting the jihad.

Bin Laden incited the nation, calling for jihad. The nation awakens by means of jihad, and the spirit of jihad and martyrdom. When we relinquished jihad and martyrdom, we were humiliated, and have begun to beg from America. America understands only the language of force. When bin Laden confronted it with the same logic the U.S. itself uses, it became horror-stricken...

“Bin Laden is the conscience of this nation. Dr. Faysal [Al-Qassem], if you were to conduct a public opinion poll in this [Islamic] nation, [you would see that] the overwhelming majority of Muslims on the face of the Earth support bin Laden and consider him their conscience. Anyone who attacks bin Laden and accuses him
of terrorism stands with the enemies of our nation; he does not want our nation to awaken. He wants our nation to lose the spirit of challenge; when we lose the spirit of challenge, we will die"

I have a a work associate from the Phillipines. He said this was coming the day of the coup.

The camel's nose is under the tent.

#209 soccerdad

HOW is this happening to this country? From the CIA fact book:

Religions: Buddhist 94.6%, Muslim 4.6%, Christian 0.7%, other 0.1% (2000 census)

So now they are running the country?

They get what they deserve.....

Afghanistan was also Buddhist at one time. If you don't know how to fight Islam, you will lose.

#204 Abu Maven 11/2/2006 02:05PM PST

chubby vegan,

Change is usually a good thing. Think of it as an opportunity to reflect and move on to things bigger and better. Necessity is the mother of all invention.

And laziness is the Old Man of all invention. {;-)

New Ann Coulter:

Jihad is Fun! Support the Left!

In his first midterm election, George W. Bush picked up six House seats and two Senate seats – making him, according to The New York Times, "the first Republican president to gain House seats in an off-year election" and only the third president of either party to pick up House seats in a midterm election since the Civil War.

This means that for Democrats simply to match the historical average gain for the party out of the White House during the first and second midterm, they would have to pick up 67 seats in the House and 11 seats in the Senate. They're about 30 Mark Foleys short of having that happen.

206 Mich-again

So you did send a link to Charles? As you say, this is a very insightful piece of work.. everyone should see this, read this, with their own eyes..

Since the attacks on September 11, 2001, The Middle East Media Research Institute has monitored, translated, and recorded what was said in the Arab and Iranian press about that day. Prominent journalists, members of academia, leading religious figures, and even Arab government officials helped shape conspiracies about what "really" happened.

The carefully documented collection is now available as a PDF and includes a compilation of articles and editorials from the mainstream Arabic and Persian language press, as well as transcripts from television programs.

A documentary film about the Arab and Iranian reaction to 9-11 incorporates footage from various TV and satellite stations in the Middle East. It was made with Interface Media Group and narrated by acclaimed actor Ron Silver.

With apologies to Stevie Wonder:

My shari'a law, brutal as the summer sun
My shari'a law, hits you like it weighs a ton
My shari'a law, issued by Allah we all adore
It's the only Law you can't ignore
How I wish the world would obey!

#185 mich-again
If you haven't sent that one to Charles yet, click your football and "notify".

MICH-AGAIN

So we should probably email this link to everyone we know..

EVERYONE... to pass it on..

#194 NoSubmission

First, they are trying to shake off their responsibility, or, in other words, to blame others for the problems they themselves have created and spread.

And jihadists said this about us. LOL!

Yep, lost my job today. You were a few of my close friends I decided to tell first after my wife, family and best friend. Thanks for the kind words.

#162 chubby vegan - I'm sorry to hear that you've lost your job. Especially when it wasn't your fault. Didja get "downsized" to up your company's stock price or something?
I know this may not help you since you lost your job today, apparently, but, seriously, it isn't even remotely close to the end of the world.
Every time a door closes, a window opens somewhere.
I've lost jobs, quit jobs (without another one immediately available) and been put in a position at work where I just HAD to quit.
It always worked out for the best and I'm sure it will for you, too.
Take some time off (if you can afford to) and maybe rethink what you'd LIKE to do to earn a living, then figure out a way to do it.
Good luck and remember LGF is always here for you; LGF's "community" has gotten me through some damn rough times and will do the same for you.

Anyone see the headline at Drudge?

"Iran test fires missle that can reach Israel"

What is the countdown at now, Hmm?

#202 X 11/2/2006 02:03PM PST

Daniel Pipes is following bonnie Prince Charles and his possible reversion to Islam:

Is Prince Charles a Convert to Islam?

I'm no expert, but the answer to me seems to be an unequivocal "yes." Look at the last picture on the right at the bottom of the page - Charles in full islamic garb, including a black turban. Isn't that black turban supposed to mean you've been to mecca or some such?

#226 zonekeeper

First, we have to confirm whether the test actually took place, and second, whether it really went that well.

Chubby Vegan,

Corporate Job?

#220 Deuce

Awesome!

I was ten when My Cheri Amor was released, and I still love it.

realwest

I'll have to disagree there. DON'T take time off. Get moving now. You don't want any more 'dead time' on your resume that absolutely necessary. One can 'get moving now' from that very keyboard where the poster is sitting. I say get after it.

#197 galloping granny 11/2/2006 02:00PM PST

I'm surprised al-BBC published this. The Egyptian bloggers have been in a roar over this for several days. One of the things the beeb left out was that as the mob ran around grabbing everyone in a skirt to rape they were screaming "we're going to f**K" ... the guy who wrote the blog I read this am was about in tears over it.

The one thing that does disturb me is that, no where in that article do they quote someone saying "I'm afraid that this is post-Ramadan celebration on the part of the mob."

Doesn't it seem like it?

#227 galloping granny

#202 X 11/2/2006 02:03PM PST

Daniel Pipes is following bonnie Prince Charles and his possible reversion to Islam:

Is Prince Charles a Convert to Islam?

I'm no expert, but the answer to me seems to be an unequivocal "yes." Look at the last picture on the right at the bottom of the page - Charles in full islamic garb, including a black turban. Isn't that black turban supposed to mean you've been to mecca or some such?

I am not sure, but it is probably easy to check. Perhaps Spencer of JihadWatch could answer the question. I cannot see the picture it appears Pipes' blog is flooded with traffic.

Nat: Yeah, kind of. Nine years down the crapper. But I am one of the best honest salespeople I've ever known. Gonna take the weekend to mourn. Then...holy crap, watch out!

#228 Ward Cleaver 11/2/2006 02:25PM PST

#226 zonekeeper

First, we have to confirm whether the test actually took place, and second, whether it really went that well.

The pictures have been on Fox repeatedly all day. Iran fired off a whole bunch of missiles simultaneously - kind of like 4th of July.

OT: Al-Reuters steps up to the plate:

Kerry slip-up not seen hurting Democrats at polls

By Thomas Ferraro 1 hour, 16 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Sen.
John Kerry's "botched joke" about the
Iraq war riled fellow Democrats and temporarily energized Republicans, but it is unlikely to have much, if any, impact in Tuesday's congressional elections.

That was the view of political analysts on Thursday as polls continued to show Democrats headed toward winning control of the House of Representatives and possibly the Senate from
President George W. Bush's Republicans.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

OT

Does anybody know who exactly was killed in the Paki raid a few days back- I guess not Z-man but maybe someone of value?

#231 Mike C.,

Get moving now. You don't want any more 'dead time' on your resume that absolutely necessary. One can 'get moving now' from that very keyboard where the poster is sitting. I say get after it.

Though I don't disagree with your logic if one wants to continue working for a corporation, that's pretty old school thinking IMHO.

I've interviewed scores of people throughout my career for professional jobs. I never had a problem with an individual taking the time to explore other options. In fact, if one can afford to do, I admire it in an individual. Don't want to hang out for years but a few months makes little difference.

Human Resources at most large corporations are prevented from giving but only the most basic of information such as yes, that individual was employed here. At my company they couldn't even provide the end of employment date. Besides, as slow as corporations are these days about getting around to fill positions, you can generally expect at a minimum a 2-3 month wait before you get an offer for any reasonably high paying job.

chubby vegan

I know, as well as many others what you are going through.

I was let go from a job in April of 2002, a job that I never applied for, they came after me, and after months of deciding, I took the leap.

It lasted from October of 2000, until April of 2002. They tried to get me to quit, I was #3 in the company, and they humiliated me in front of subordinates, etc.

Basically, the V.P. lost our largest account, and hung me instead of taking the blame himself.

Seriously, you hang in there. It is a bitch, a kick in the teeth, and a blow to the stomach.

You fight, you kick ass, and don't give up.

You will get back on the horse.

65-crazy diamond--"...detain the Pope..."?
/Ruh roh.

Sharia is like flesh-eating disease; it infects one area and unless stopped, it infects an entire body. If you believe that then you might reconsider our aid and support for Islamic states.

# 238 g_n

Don't know about that. I haven't worked (as an employee, I mean) for a real corporation since 1986. But I do have a lot of time on the books spent seeking work. Way too much, in fact. Depends on the field of endeavor and the state of one's industry, I guess.

#236 ted 11/2/2006 02:36PM PST

OT: Al-Reuters steps up to the plate:

Counting of chickens, whistling in the graveyard, tallking of heads.... the military and the people who have ever been in the military and the families of the military are not pleased. Bush has politely let it go a little bit so as not to be seen as a nasty bulldog, but is is NOT gone...

Swift Boat Vets on Hannity & Colmes tonight.

Submission on Fox both Sat. & Sun - and they have 10x the audience CNN has for their "Broken Government"

Have to disagree with those that advised people to get out of Thailand. Don't concede the land to the Jihadists. Non-jihadists are fully 95%. If ever there was a place to stay and fight, this is it.

I know, easy to say when it isn't my head.

#234 chubby vegan,

Sales? If you're good, they are some of the most flexible and well paying jobs around. It's not 9 years down the crapper though I understand how you feel at this moment. It paid the light bills and provided experience. Don't look back.

If I could make a suggestion, take a little time to think through exactly what type of industry you like if you like sales. And I'll give you a heads up if you don't already know this.

Most jobs aren't found through the want ads. Contact your former co-workers, clients, friends, and the like. Networking will get you about 90% of the jobs today. Most people I know want to help. Don't be embarrassed because all of us have probably gone through this at one time or another.

I walked away from a 6 figure job and told them to shove it because I didn't like how my staff was being treated, dared to tell them as much, and didn't have the authority to change it. For me, going back wasn't an option and I headed for medical school.

And remember this. Don't fall into the trap of thinking a company owns you. They don't. Who wants to work for a company that would think no more than to let a dedicated employee hang? In the grand scheme of life, this is just a temporary bump in the road. Just keep yourself busy so you don't fret.

Anybody smart enough to come up with a nic Chubby Vegan has got to pretty creative. Don't worry - you'll do well. Let us know how it's going and if we can help.

I keep hearing it will be 20 years before this "fight" for civilization will take place here in the USA. I cannot feel so optimistic. If a dem president is elected in 2008, I think we will have just submittted to sharia law. Being "dots" all over the globe, how can we really unite? What can an individual do? These Islamofacists are getting smarter, better armed and better organized militarily speaking. The have cowed just about every democratic leader (and their countries) in the world. It is a cancer, but how can we here in the states truly fight it? I mean, I know how (you use more force then the enemy) but will my neighbor or Joe Blow down the street do so? IMHO, "it's" here in five years. Having a gun does not make me feel more secure. It's registered and soon I fear it's going to be taken away. Kerry was fun for the moment, but the real game continues spiraling downward, as Sir Charles continues to tell the tales of the world coming to its end. My only humor (at the moment) comes from NJDhockeyfan's remote ventriloquism machine, it's still giving me a chuckle. I'm hooked on this site and its links but it depresses the hell out of me.

Chubby Vegan,

I had the ugly experience too. They wanted me to quit, so it was total war. My boss (the owner) went so far as to try to "accidentally" run into me in the halls. We're talking 250lb man versus 135lb woman. I finally quit without having anything else lined up. 2 1/2 weeks later I got a phone call out of the blue, and started the job I have now 5 days later. God really does open windows.

#246 TimeQuake 11/2/2006 02:59PM PST

I keep hearing it will be 20 years before this "fight" for civilization will take place here in the USA. I cannot feel so optimistic. If a dem president is elected in 2008, I think we will have just submittted to sharia law. Being "dots" all over the globe, how can we really unite? What can an individual do? These Islamofacists are getting smarter, better armed and better organized militarily speaking. The have cowed just about every democratic leader (and their countries) in the world. It is a cancer, but how can we here in the states truly fight it? I mean, I know how (you use more force then the enemy) but will my neighbor or Joe Blow down the street do so? IMHO, "it's" here in five years. Having a gun does not make me feel more secure. It's registered and soon I fear it's going to be taken away. Kerry was fun for the moment, but the real game continues spiraling downward, as Sir Charles continues to tell the tales of the world coming to its end. My only humor (at the moment) comes from NJDhockeyfan's remote ventriloquism machine, it's still giving me a chuckle. I'm hooked on this site and its links but it depresses the hell out of me.

Time - you never give up without a fight. And the fight is never over until the fat lady sings.

Every time you come here you are educating yourself. I assume you are sharing that with others. That is one thing we all can do. Not everything - you don't want to annoy people - but now and then send out links to interesting stuff, or stories.

Write letters. Write the president, your congressman, the TV, the newspapers.

Take action: stop buying stuff, cut down on your oil consumption, use fewer plastics and things made from oil. Buy proactively to support economies from countries like Denmark that are fighting the good fight. We should all have butter cookies and Legos on our Christmas list.

Donate to charity wisely. Be SURE you know where the $$ is going. Some of the "worthiest" charities are much deeper into the NME side than you would ever guess. We donate to two charities - the local food pantry & Magen David in Israel. Back when someone still put up an angel tree at Christmas around here we did that too. Nothing else though - none for the Red Cross, none for the various medical appeals (including St. Jude).

People ARE waking up. But you need to stay positive, as do we all. If we all let ourselves get depressed then we might as well just "submit."

No submission in this house. BTW, Submission is on Sat at 8 and Sun at 10 on Fox.

bebe's boobs destroy

OK, you made me laugh.

Where in the world did you come up with that?

The nic that is?

GG

(including St. Jude).

Just curious, what is with them?

#250 formercorpsman 11/2/2006 03:15PM PST

GG

(including St. Jude).

Just curious, what is with them?

formercorpsman, they have far too much money for me to make any further public statement.

#248 Galloping Granny

Thank you for your words of advice. I have been emailing the POTUS daily (once again, through a link I found here on LGF) and I do have a weakness for butter cookies. Don't know all the keys for "winking, laughing, etc". but you did give me a smile. I WILL go down fighting, I just think it's closer than we know.

#6 BabbaZee, #30 Ward Cleaver: its 0712 in BKK as I write, and while smiling courteously, I gently remind you that I actually DO SLEEP sometimes, usually between 2300 and 0630, which gets me online at, oh, say 0700 and posting by 0713?

Its a clear part of the bigger Muslim picture, and its NOT pretty, Friends!

#146 beblebrox

Oh, thanks. I knew about Hagia Sofia, but didn't know that was it. Thanks.

#146 beblebrox
#254 nonic

No, wait a minute. I've got that wrong, don't I? Not Hagia Sofia in Istanbul -- St. Sofia in Cyprus. Okay.

#148 realwest

#113 nonic Don't know if you're still around, but put your money on civil war.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

#162 chubby vegan

Hey, chubby vegan, it's gonna be okay. Really. You HAD a job. That means you're a worker, you're employable, you have experience, you have knowledge and skills. Now, you're free to look for something better. It'll work out. Give it a little time and be positive. If you don't mind prayers, I'll be praying for you. Hang in there, pal.

{chubby vegan}

:-)

#249 formercorpsman

South Park, Baby! Those guys are equal opportunity offenders, but the message is usually pretty common sense.

The goal of the jihad in Southern Thailand can be stated very simply: expand the Dar al Islam, and reduce the Dar al Harb.

That's what the jihadis are fighting for, and that's what the group that took power by coup wants to accomplish also.

The only issue is: what is the rate at which the Dar al Harb will agree to shrink. Slowly, or more quickly.

Well, they've already begun institution of Sharia.

The prime minister of health has instituted bans of alcohol around universities, government buildings, etc. and banned alcohol advertising.

[Link: bangkok.metblogs.com...]

253 carridine
Run, my Uber-Bahai brother, RUN!

I've been an anti-islamofascist activist in San Francisco (enemy territory to the max) since as long as I can remember. However, I must say that I do not regard Bush and his group as effective war-time leaders. Quite the opposite. They had an explicit obligation to say to the American people OVER AND OVER AND OVER that Islamofascism is the root cause of this war, that we are IN A WAR TO THE END, and to makes sure the conflict didn't turn into a profit-fest for the multinational corporations. They did the opposite. I can't think of a single piece of domestic legislation under Bush that benefitted anyone one but the corporate oligarchy. As for Thailand, I lived there, and I would say another coup is probably already in the planning stage. I don't expect Thailand to crumble that quickly.