Knowing the plans to make a bomb actually arent a big problem. The primary problem with making bombs is actually the manufacturing process, the theory is actually simple. Also, method of delivery are a concern for states with burgeoning nuclear programs

Does anyone care what the NYT says? I know I don't. How did it earn the reputation as the "newspaper of record", anyway?

Good thing we invaded Iraq! Nice story!

Seems like the NYT scooped a story that most of us have known for at least, um, years.

WMD's? What WMD's?

/lib mantra

um, yeah... i think this lands on the "credence" side of the fence.

what a bunch of idiots!

. The Times' new-found concern for national security is unconvincing.

I think that this story will probably equal itself out with positive and negative publicity. On one hand, if Saddam was that close to having nuclear weapons, the height of WMD, President Bush was correct in taking in Iraq before any of this research came to fruition.

If these documents were placed on the Internet and helped Iran further their nuclear program in anyway, the buck stops at the desk of the President and he has some explaining to do. Its a very serious mistake and while I'm a supporter of his, he will need to address the issue.

However, if Iran's nuclear program is peaceful, as the IAEA and Iranian officals suggest, then what is the issue?

Either way, this will bear close watching. I don't think it will have the effect that the NYT wants it to have.

but telling every terrorist how were spying on them is ok...

I think it will backfire on the NYT, as most of their 'gotcha' moments do. Is there any curiosity at the paper as to how or why Saddam would have such super-secret details on nuclear weapons? They filter everything through their "It's Bush's fault" machine, so they miss a lot of the true context of what they print.

I can't see how this helps the left, it only reinforces how much of a threat Iraq was and how necessary it was to remove Saddam from power.

If this story helps the GOP the NYT will have a copy of the actual prepared statement on front page tomorrow.

I think that the NY Times is mis-calculating this one.

At first glance it says to me that Saddam had, or was close to having, a nuclear weapon. I think that's where most peoples attention span ends.

This one is gonna get the left's panties all in a bunch. Which way do they go with this? Doesn't matter. The MSM will figure out how to spin this one, either way. Just wait for the ultimate in leftspeak to emerge tomorrow.

But, but, but, but, Iraq didn't have any WMDs.

I smell backfire.

I wonder how long they were working on this story.

DesertSage, what's your phrase of the day?

"and the angle here is that the Bush administration was sloppy with intelligence secrets"

...go for it lefties, tell the world...shout it from the rooftops! You're too stupid to realize the counter argument.

How the hell did Rove get to Kerry and the NY Times in the same week?

I love the smell of backfire in the morning.

Smells like... victory.

The NYT accusing the Bushies of playing fast and loose with classified documents, possibly jeopardizing national security.

Pot, meet Kettle.

And if Saddam was so close to building nukes that the paperwork alone gives away valuable information to other nuclear wannabes, does the NYT really think this undermines Bush's arguments that he needed to be taken out?

Let me get this straight...This is from 1991? Doesn't that mean it was on the watch of Bush Senior?

This just proves that Iraq was a grudge match to get even for Daddy!

/tinfoil has been removed from the duck

#18 DesertSage

Domino effect

Noam Sayin'

I guess it's time, huh?

Keith Olbermann is a crusty old shit stain!

Hey NYT, Trick or Treat! Anymore leftover goodies?

TRYING TO RECOVER FROM A 5% DROP IN CIRCULATION, NYT DOUBLES UP! MSM FOLLOWS.

/New emblem, all the news we make up.

Wasn't this an archive where untranslated documents were placed to get help in translation because so few documents had been translated? I seem to remember that some real jewels had been found which indicated things like WMD's being moved around to avoid the inspectors. Why won't the MSM go after stuff like that? Nevermind, I know the answer.

The message the NY Slimes is trying to get across is that the Bush Administration has endangered us by putting these documents (un-edited) on the web for all to see. In other words, the Republicans really aren't better at security than the Dems, since security was the one big issue that the Republicans easily outscored the Dems on in all the polls.

So, we should all vote for the Dems (is what the Slimes wants the reader to think).

Nice try. Iran was working on a nuke long before these documents were put on the web.

#21 mallard... ah, forget it I'm too tired.

Let me get this straight...This is from 1991? Doesn't that mean it was on the watch of Bush Senior?

Also probably a major piece of information handed off to the Clinton administration, doncha think?

Can't wait to see the moonbats spin this.

Oh, and...

What's up with the CBS News banner ad?

Grunting "Allah akbar!"..?
Man Escorted From Planet Fitness Gym For Grunting

You can lift, strain, crunch and sweat all you want at the Planet Fitness in the Dutchess County village. But whatever you do, do not grunt.

Yep, "no grunting." It says so, in black and white, on a sign posted at the gym. One former member learned the new rule the hard way.

"This is really absurd, especially the part about the grunting," said Al Argibay, a corrections officer who learned first-hand "no grunting" means exactly that.

Argibay, a former competitive bodybuilder, joined the gym in September because it was affordable and convenient.

Planet Fitness is also somewhat picky, with a long list of dos-and-don'ts posted right inside the door.

"No grunting or screaming" is listed, along with "no bandanas or do-rags."

"We're creating an atmosphere that's not intimidating," said Carol Palazzolo, the gym manager, who yanked Argibay's membership on Monday.

Argibay said he was at a multi-press station, getting ready to squat about 500 pounds when the forbidden sin happened. "I let out a grunt, squatted down, back up, grunt again. That's it," explained Argibay. "Basically, grunt, grunt, basic breathing in heavy, and breathing out."

Grunting is commonplace at most gyms, but not Planet Fitness, which discourages so-called "musclehead behavior."

There's even a flashing light and siren on the wall, labeled a "lunk alarm," which sounds if someone grunts or drops weights on the floor.

Is it ok to grunt while working out?

Palazzolo admits she called the cops on Argibay. The Wappingers Falls police report said officers were asked to "escort a member out of the club for grunting while working out...which is not conforming with the rules of the establishment."

But Palazzolo said that's only part of the story.

"He did grunt, and when I told him he wasn't allowed to grunt, he got irate at me, he swore, and he yelled at me," Palazzolo said. "I asked him not to [grunt), he got irate and nasty, and I can't have him in my facility if he's gonna do those kind of things."

Argibay denied he yelled, cursed, or acted inappropriately. He demanded an apology from the gym and its manager.

"It's an attack on my character, and it's very embarrasing, and an insult," Argibay said. "At the end of the day, after serving your community as a corrections officer, the last thing I want is to be escorted out of the gym by the local authorities."

Palazzolo is standing her ground.

"I'm not out to hurt anybody," she said. "If he feels I hurt his feelings, I apologize for that, but I do not apologize for the way I handled the situation and I am not apologizing for our etiquette at Planet Fitness."

[Link: wcbstv.com...]

The MSM will use this as an opportunity to focus on weighty national security issues, such as the way Bush pronounces nuke-ya-lur.

Let me get this straight; there were never even a hint of WMD according to the Dhummies, yet now they had the possibility of making a nuclear bomb? Puhleeze. Sounds very Kerry-esque to me, or were they a little bit pregnant?

#2 Louminatti

They are not alone...and once upon a time, in a very different world, before WWII? They were. Now? Not fit to be kitty litter, the traitors. Watching their circualtion plunge? Priceless!

To be honest, know-how is not the biggest part of the picture anymore. After all, Sadaam had a Frenchie-supplied reactor before the Israelis bombed it. Clearly, his scientists had nuclear know-how from their French training.

The big part is the manufactoring process.

And we all should be concerned at the fact that this know-how nontheless made it's way onto a public web server.

#30 cbinflux
Fartings OK. Go Grunts!

I'm outraged. I could've made a nuke in time for the holidays!

Why didn't the Times publish these documents in full detail while they were mistakenly available? Or at least trumpet the web link while it was still hot. Their nosy questions made the government go and hide these newsworthy details from us.

I guess there's no thrill for them in printing national security secrets unless they are illegally obtained.

Well then! Wasn't it smart of our President to decide to go in there and clean out a few hornet's nests.

NYT: Bush Administration Not Secretive Enough

I got whiplash on that one...

#23 DesertSage, Overlord to Olbermann

I guess it's time, huh?

Keith Olbermann is a crusty old shit stain!

Ah... That's the stuff. Now I can go to bed.

G'night, all!

#28

Hence the reference to tinfoil. Sorry if my sarcasm wasn't as obvious as it should have been.

#33 Dreadnaught

Beat you bwahaha check #1

NYT story is total BS as usual. Pakistan is ground zero. Seek and you will find.

'nite Noam.

#33 Dreadnaught
Of course not. I designed a nuke in 8th grade. Fortunately I lacked materials. These people are Kerry retards. The ones who study so hard and are so politically correct that they are the smartest people in the world. Read "The Marching Morons".

But by 8th grade I had some chemical bombs that were interesting.

on how this is a positive story for going into Iraq.

Has anyone posted this yet?

Ted 'Splash' Kennedy was working with the Soviets to stab Carter in the back during the Democrat primaries, then continued to try to undermine Reagan after he became President.

He shit on our country to seek his own power hungry appetite.

The KGB files Mitrokhin retrieved indicate that Kennedy fixed the blame for heightened international tensions on the Carter White House, not on the Kremlin. Kennedy at the time was challenging incumbent Carter for the Democratic nomination for president.

Tunney told his KGB counterparts that Kennedy was impressed by the foreign policy statements made by then General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev. Kennedy saw in Brezhnev a leader who was firmly committed to the policy of "détente," the report said.

But, in Kennedy's estimation, the Carter administration had assumed an overly belligerent posture toward the Soviet Union after the invasion of Afghanistan, Mitrokhin wrote.

In Kennedy's view, "the atmosphere of tension and hostility towards the whole Soviet people was being fuelled by Carter" as well as by some key advisors, the Pentagon and the U.S. military industrial complex, the Mitrokhin report states.

Throughout the meeting Tunney remained focused on the separation between Kennedy's proposals and the official stance of the Carter White House. While official U.S. policy called for the withdrawal of Soviet forces from Afghanistan, Kennedy avoided "touching the question of the legality of the presence of Soviet troops," Mitrokhin reported.

Instead, Kennedy relayed through his envoy, Tunney, his support for a withdrawal of Soviet forces that would be coupled with policy directives that "guaranteed non-interference" by competing foreign powers in the internal affairs of Afghanistan.

Since there was intense disagreement between Kennedy and the administration on policy toward the Soviets, Tunney told the KGB that the Massachusetts senator had concluded "it was his duty to take action himself, which could force the Carter administration to act to de-escalate the crisis," Mitrokhin wrote.

In 1980 Kennedy lost to Carter in the Democratic primary, and the incumbent in turn lost to Ronald Reagan in the general election.

As was previously reported by the Cybercast News Service Kennedy also subsequently made overtures to Soviet officials aimed at thwarting Reagan's military buildup in the 1980s.

Kennedy had offered to help the Soviets organize a public relations campaign in the U.S. that would dilute support for Reagan's policies. Once again, it was Tunney who traveled to Moscow on Kennedy's behalf to relay the senator's proposals.

The particulars of Kennedy's proposals are discussed in a letter dated May 14, 1983, that was sent from the head of the KGB to Yuri Andropov, who was then general secretary. Romerstein acquired a copy of the letter from a contact in Moscow who had access to the Kremlin archives.

"The letter speaks to the degree of opposition and the lack of understanding liberals like Kennedy had toward Reagan's policies," said Lee Edwards, a distinguished fellow at the Heritage Foundation.

"Reagan knew we had to build up our armed forces before we could apply pressure to the Soviets." The notion of fighting to win the Cold War was an alien concept to liberals like Kennedy, Edwards added, because they had grown accustomed to the policies of containment.

This sack of shit should be rotting in prison right now.

Crawl back under your rock, cicadajoe.

well, first of all President Bush needs to FINALLY realize this is politics

he needs to play hardball because the folksy old Bushfamily ways of playing nice is hurting him, and all of us

second, nuclear plans, for crude Hiroshima-type bombs have been around courtesy of UC Berkeley for decades

I'm sure the liberwhackies at MIT also float that info around too

so there is no shortage of how to make crude fission bombs, not to mention EMP bombs, chem weapons on down to even a lowly zip gun, all available to the general public for years

plus, doesn't the NYT think that Iran has not already gotten help from their neighbor in Pakistan, AQ Khan already ?

If North Korea was able to make a nuke back during the Clinton years by being so much farther away and non moo slum then iran is likely already about to push go any day now on their own test

let's just hope the evil joos hit them first but all I can say is - my opinion is let's get on with it, I hate suspense

#47 Adrenalyn 11/2/2006 09:03PM PST

well, first of all President Bush needs to FINALLY realize this is politics

he needs to play hardball because the folksy old Bushfamily ways of playing nice is hurting him, and all of us

second, nuclear plans, for crude Hiroshima-type bombs have been around courtesy of UC Berkeley for decades

I'm sure the liberwhackies at MIT also float that info around too

Easier than that. Virtually every chemistry department in the US teaches a course in nuclear chemistry. Anyone who believes this information is somehow magically hidden under lock and key is an utter lunatic.

...detailed accounts of Iraq’s secret nuclear research before the 1991 Persian Gulf war. The documents, the experts say, constitute a basic guide to building an atom bomb.

Well, there you have it. Second paragraph. That's as far as I got, that's as far as most people will get.

What it says to me is that Saddam was building a nuclear weapon. A WMD!

What a shocker! The words Iraq and building an atom bomb in the same paragraph...in the NY Times. What are these guys thinking?

These people are dumber than John Kerry.

#37 dead sea squirrel

NYT: Bush Administration Not Secretive Enough

Ain't that some shit?

Of course, the Slimes is Johnny On The Spot, ready to reveal secrets, to help our enemies.

Well, there go more subscribers. I see another circulation decline coming.

So what?

This is old news.

/apparently, the NYT is recyclling their own four month old articles

OT-

Who here can work the Janitor?

I think they mean he was a year away in 2002, here's the quote:

"Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990’s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."

Koskidz are giddy...
NYT BREAKING: Bush helped Iran get nukes!

Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency fear the information could help Iran develop nuclear arms... contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that the nuclear experts say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums.

Someone else is going to have to read DKos for the next week or so, I'm leaving for Londonistan early in the morning.

#52 Killian Bundy 11/2/2006 09:11PM PST
This is old news.

/apparently, the NYT is recyclling their own four month old articles

Oops, nevermind. Ignore that post.

/I read 4 minutes as 4 months, my bad

I guess hhey forgot that they have been reporting that Saddam had no plans or desire to build any WBD's. I wondr what the readers will say.

Perhaps the NYT is seeing the writing on the wall and trying to compensate...

Oh, who am I kidding?

well, that story clarifies everything.

If the US would have left Saddam alone since there was no reason to go in there, there were no WMD's being developed, then Iraq would be a counterforce to Iran and our soldiers wouldn't have been killed or injured.

But we DID go in there.

So NOW, the US has made a horrible mistake by allowing the world at large to see papers from inside Iraq.

Papers are bad.

Someone might build a WMD with those papers. Not Iraq, of course. But someone else.

Since Iraq could be trusted with the papers, never ever giving anybody any indication Iraq would use the papers to build WMD, then Iraq was actually the "keeper of the papers" which was a good thing because when the very dangerous papers were in the hands of Iraq, the world was safer than when the papers were in the hands of the US who allowed the papers to be viewed.

/head spinning, room tilting, so confused

For the average person, this news definitively reads as "Bush did the right thing stopping that madman!"
:)

#53 dubluv

Click on the football. If you have an email reader configured in your browser, an email will pop up for you to edit and send.

If you don't, you'll have to paste the link for the post into an email and send it to Charles manually.

Clinton GAVE North Korea nuclear technology free of charge...and he included a basketball in the deal too.

Dubluv, do you want me to janitor a post for you?

Let's clear something up first: How long has Iran's nuke program been "officially" going on?

I'm willing to bet, if there was helpful info in these documents on building a nuke bomb, the Iranians probably knew most of it by the time these documents made it to the internet.

Hello Folks,
I think the average news reader will miss the nuance.

The NYT, of all entities, is worried about classified information getting out?

Good gawd, how strange is that? Most respectable terrorists organizations rely on the NYT for daily intel.

nuance: (N) a subtle difference in meaning or opinion or attitude

Sorry, But Kerry has no Subtlety about him. He hates us commoners

Good evening lizards - and good moring from Israel! I am getting my kids off to school and I put the radio on. It seems that the IDF has intensified its operation in Gaza, and at least 60 terrorists tried to hide in a mosque (shooting from it also, of course). The IDF started bulldozing down the buildings next to it, and the mosque's ceiling fell down on them.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Iran''s had a nuclear weapons program since the '80s. All this information has been available for decades. Where do you think Iraq got it? The hard part is getting the matterials and manufacture.

/here's a hint, 15 year old (at least) Iraqi documents posted sometime after the invasion of Iraq, wouldn't telll Iran anything they didn't already know

#68 westbankmama
Falling ceilings are good. ;)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1731259/pos ts?page=101,16

Check this out.

The NY Slimes shoots the "Bush Lied" mantra all to hell.

Heads exploding is in order...lol

westbankmama
That came out to be "Operation Samson" ;)

Jay, doesn't have much to say, does he?

55 Killgore

Have a great trip!

Blossom
Thanks! :)

#68 westbankmama

As an old long-lost friend of mine would say, "Justice to their ass!".

67 Jewels (AKA Julian) 11/2/2006 09:30PM PST

nuance: (N) a subtle difference in meaning or opinion or attitude

Standing in a gallery, looking at several different compositions of John Kerry's character..

"More "snide" than nuanced to me, Jewels."

#73 pat

Jay, doesn't have much to say, does he?

He would have just pimped his blog anyway.

/that's pretty much all he does

31 religion of bacon

"...such as the way Bush pronounces nuke-ya-lur."

Well if they can demote Pluto from planet, they can change the name of the core of the atom too:

The

Nookyalus

Miguel - you know your Bible stories I see...

Got to run and get the little monsters out the door to school - I'll check in later...

#73 pat

At least he's not pimping is blog. He used to do that twice a day here.

This is the "suicide squeeze" play of politics.

The NYT has led the "No WMDs" mantra for so many years now that they have simply programmed the unthinking population.

They sneak this story in like a squeeze bunt - in the frenzy to condemn Bush, they score another run.

In this game we all lose.

Miguel

Thanks

You're welcome?

Creep Alert. Total Moonbat Creep Alert. The President of Univ. Penn. poses with a Palestinian Terrorist for hallowen. See the photos and get ready to vomit.

[Link: www.michellemalkin.com...]

'Night, all.

Have a great day, and stay safe, westbankmama. You're in my prayers.

Blossom
Yes, I am.
:D

I'm going out on a limb here but I find the WMD argument to be so..

over...

I don't even care anymore...

westbankmomma,

The IDF has finally dispensed with the notion that Mosques are "untouchable" under any circumstances.

Palestinian witnesses said IDF bulldozers demolished a wall of the mosque and fired stun grenades and tear gas in an effort to force them to surrender.

This is the most refreshing news!
God Bless the IDF.

Becoming a Perfect Storm these days

This one smells of desperation...

But you just don't care anymore...
Texas Tornadoes.

The city of Berkeley has Measure H this election. Vote yes if you think Bush and Cheney should be impeached.

One of the arguments is that Bush invaded Iraq for illegal reasons.

86 Miguel

Why are you thanking me?

87 Gin Blossom
Over and Out.

And I am off to dinner. But I have a question. Are you named after the Tuscon musical group?

I will not see the answer for 30m, but I am curious. (yellow)

Blossom
I was joking.
I took that "good trip" desire as if directed to me LOL.

/Traveling in my own mind. Can you see the synapsis glowing? lol

I have confirmed that the cartoon accessible by scrolling down the following page, is the winner of the Iran Holocaust contest:

[Link: www.tlaxcala.es...]

Note: Umar's Mosque on Temple Mount is seen being blocked by an Israeli wall, which reflects on the track system to Auschwitz. Muslims deny any Jewish connection to Temple Mount. Since 1948 they have claimed that Jerusalem (al-Quds, that name being a corruption of the Hebrew el-Kadish) is the 3rd most holy city in Islam. That is BS. There is no reference to the city in the unholy koran. This is al-Taqiyah at work. Muslims are bred to lie, and die as liars. You can trust them as far as you can spit against a hurricane. We should neither be making alliances with them, nor helping them build shariah terror centers. This GWOT on terror is a joke; bring on the real war.

pat
Tsk, tsk. That film reference dates you, and as a naughty kid, at that lol

93 pat 11/2/2006 09:55PM PST

87 Gin Blossom
Over and Out.

And I am off to dinner. But I have a question. Are you named after the Tuscon musical group?

I will not see the answer for 30m, but I am curious. (yellow)

You mean, "Tucson?"

No. I'm not.

¡Hola, Miguelito!

#84 Pat

This still has me livid, and sick to my stomach..the kid and his mother were on local TV defending what the little POS, from Brooklyn did...he wore a h*** (may his name be obliterated) for Halloween and yesterday was still saying that he didn't do anything wrong, as the mother kvells all over her cretin.

Abu Maven 11/2/2006 09:51PM PST

This one smells of desperation...

Exactly. This is almost suicidal LOL

#91 Gin Blossom

The city of Berkeley has Measure H this election. Vote yes if you think Bush and Cheney should be impeached.

One of the arguments is that Bush invaded Iraq for illegal reasons.

I guess they must have missed:

Text of UN Security Council Resolution 1441 on Iraq: November 8, 2002

Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq

/although, if successful, that might give them President Pelosi, your wallet, and the Supreme Court

¡Hola Nana! :)

100 Killian

When the inhabitants of the People's Republic Of Berkeley speak the wind stops blowing to listen, the ocean holds back its waves, and the sun halts in its path across the sky.

#102 Blossom
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
ROFL!

Miguel

:D

#102 Gin Blossom

And...

Each rabbit would show respect to me. The chipmunks genuflect to me.

#2 Louminatti

Does anyone care what the NYT says? I know I don't. How did it earn the reputation as the "newspaper of record", anyway?

Like any newspaper, they are free to print whatever they wish after their legal departments approve.

This article and "newspaper of record" are equally confusing to me.

I suppose it is legally correct.

It is a record of what somebody said.

105 gonzo

LOL ~

The mighty Mississippi would run backwards..

105 gonzo

. The chipmunks genuflect to me.

Still laughing..

Howdy y'all...

Another night without sleep coming right up.

THE,
R

gin blossom.
No. I was actually speaking of the famous oceanic island of Tuscon, known for a weed of little consequence. No need to look it up.

Miquel
I have an idea that gin blossom could date me to a year. LOL

United States Scares The Crap Out Of Britons..

(who else, Reuters...)

LONDON (Reuters) - The United States is seen as a threat to world peace by its closest neighbors and allies, with Britons saying President George W. Bush poses a greater danger than North Korea's Kim Jong-il, a survey found on Friday.

A majority of people quizzed in three out of four countries polled also rejected the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

The findings came just days before the U.S. mid-term congressional elections, with a growing number of U.S. voters wanting their troops in Iraq to be brought home.

Britain's Guardian newspaper said it carried out the survey along with Israel's Haaretz, La Presse and Toronto Star in Canada and Mexico's Reforma.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

"Saddam Was Close to a Nuclear Bomb"

...And the Radiation Turned the Poor Fellow into a Monster.

110 pat

I was actually speaking of the famous oceanic island of Tuscon, known for a weed of little consequence

Why, yes, that describes me perfectly..

:D

Pat
LOL ;)

#71 leofl 11/2/2006 09:39PM PST

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1 731259/posts?page=101,16

Huge. I really think this will have the opposite effect than what the NYT was spinning for..

Can you say WMD? Saddam could.. (note the past tense - thanks to GWB and the US armed forces.)

Verdict due sunday? That's gonna be icing on the cake.

ICM interviewed 1,010 adults from October 27-30 in Britain. Professional local opinion polling was used in the other three countries, the Guardian said. In Israel, 1,078 people were asked, 1,007 were quizzed in Canada and 1,010 in Mexico.

Wow.. they must be right!

Note paragraph 13 (hat tip: LGF readers):

Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq had abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away.

Is the New York Times actually conceding that Saddam was just a year away from having a nuclear weapon in 2002?

Anyone care to wager that little nucular bomb of an admission does NOT make the print edition?

Dear Lord, Please Grant Me The Ability To Punch People In The Face Over Standard TCP/IP
--Help Desk Technicians Prayer

OT .. hot off the press..

French violence hits fresh peak

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4413250.st m

A night of rioting in France has left 1,408 vehicles burnt out and resulted in 395 arrests - the highest tolls yet in 11 nights of unrest.

Ten policemen were injured by shots and stones when they confronted 200 rioters in the Paris suburb of Grigny, with two policemen seriously hurt.

President Jacques Chirac has said restoring order is his top priority.

Meanwhile a man who fell into a coma after being beaten last week is thought to be the first fatality of the unrest.

Jean-Jacques Le Chenadec, 61, was reportedly struck by a hooded man in the street after he and a neighbour went to inspect damage to bins near their apartment block in the town of Stains, in the Seine-Saint-Denis region outside Paris.

His widow has been received by Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy.

Appeal to Muslims

Muslim leaders of African and Arab communities have also issued a fatwa, or religious order, against the riots.

(Side note, WTF? You can issue a Fatwa on a Fatwa)

further: "They really shot at officers, said local police commander Bernard Franio.

"This is real, serious violence - not like the previous nights. I'm very worried because this is mounting."

Is the New York Times actually conceding that Saddam was just a year away from having a nuclear weapon in 2002?

It's merely a botched news article, Charles..

#95 Nastification Agenda

Since 1948 they have claimed that Jerusalem (al-Quds, that name being a corruption of the Hebrew el-Kadish) is the 3rd most holy city in Islam. That is BS. There is no reference to the city in the unholy koran.

I've had some fun for the last few years telling people to go to the USC MSA website and plug the word "Jerusalem" into the koran search feature and count how many times there's a match (zero), and then contrast that with a search at a site like biblegateway.com (over 700 IIRC).

The traitor MSM loves to repeat "third holiest site in islam". Never "the holiest site in Judaism", which is what the Temple Mount is, and how it should primarily be referenced. They also never mention all the Christian churches and Hindu shrines that have been co-opted or destroyed to make way for mosques.

zardah
Do you think the French will wake up in time?
The counter-fatwa is very telling. The muftis in Africa don't want to alienate France...not just yet, at least.
Will they wake up in time?

A history of the 101st Fighting Keyboarders. This is just magnificent, highly recommended.

#113 Gin Blossom
Actually, I kept asking the girls in the Elvira costumes (and we all know how many can pull that off), if their name was gin blossom? Unfortunately it did not go over well with the crowd. Hmmm

Miquel

I dug deep last night. I have a feeling the hole is deeper.

Blossom
Botched jokes, botched articles.
What goes?
Seems like The Lord wants Republicans to keep Congress LOL

OT
New Clear Days

We should get ourselves ahead of the new found cooperation from the Norks. They've agreed to 6-way talks under prodding from China under prodding from USA and Japan. (Whose a thorn in whose side?)
DPRK starts its Winter Training Cycle late this month. These "Training Cycles" are generally aimed at sending a belligerent message to Seoul, Japan and America.
If they're at the same level of intensity this year I'll be surprised. Especially since China built a real fence along their Nork border and has offered a boot to his throat if he proceeds.
No more diplo-rope-a-dope.

There needs to be a nuclear Japan. Japan has earned the right to this deterrent. A nuclear Japan would be the best positive stabilizing force I can conceive.

I think I'm turning Japanese - I really think so.

Meanwhile a man who fell into a coma after being beaten last week is thought to be the first fatality of the unrest.

I thought that a woman had been set afire on a bus and had subsequently died- earlier this week...

Horrible situation, and tolerated to the point now where it will not be resolved without some real tough measures on the part of the government- as in massive arrests and some brutality.

#119 zardah

Not so hot.

Check the date.

OT

Oh, you have GOT to see the picture on this link (hold your nose in prep for the title of the URL)

http://deletetheborder.org/node/355

France rioting spreads to over 300 cities | deleteTheBorder.org
Dominique de Villepin, France’s prime minister, was accused on Tuesday of losing his sang-froid after resorting to a state of emergency to quell riots that ...

(and as you know, losing your sang-froid is the ultimate French FOPA (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FOP A&defid=573057)

#115 Yankee Division Son

Verdict due sunday? That's gonna be icing on the cake.

And, IIRC, Iraqi death sentences are traditionally carried out immediately upon verdict, so he could be dead in time for the Monday news cycle, good for Republicans.

If they announce a death sentence and then drag it out and start talking about "appeals", it's going to get ugly and violent and will be bad for Republicans.

/the soldier who found him should have just followed his first instinct and dropped the grenade down the hole

oppps.. sorry, last time I use a google alert tool.. ttthhhuuurrrppp

pat

Miquel

I dug deep last night. I have a feeling the hole is deeper.

Excuse me, Pat. I don't get what you're talking about. If you can refresh my memory, please ;)

That Dr. Alzh, alz...is after me.

119 zardah

That's from a year ago.

#123 Chomsky

A history of the 101st Fighting Keyboarders. This is just magnificent, highly recommended.

You're not going to continue to make trouble are you. It's already been a Trollapalooza today and we've already had our fill of gamey buttocks.

/I mean they've been crawling out of the [expletive deleted] woodwork today!

Zardah..

How did you get a year behind? Are you living in the past?

Great research and response to the NYT's report here:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

You know, I can still hit a fly with my hands.
Doesn't do much for the computer, though.

Robert Spencer, of Jihad Watch on Michell Malkin's Vent. Excellent commentary.

What was that hippy broadway show where they all danced around naked?

Caligula?

Hair.

UPDATE at 11/2/06 10:17:02 pm:

Note paragraph 13 (hat tip: LGF readers):

Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq had abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away.

Is the New York Times actually conceding that Saddam was just a year away from having a nuclear weapon in 2002?

Should be an interesting Friday.

#139 Gin Blossom

What was that hippy broadway show where they all danced around naked?

Hair.

/the movie

Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq had abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away.

Is the New York Times actually conceding that Saddam was just a year away from having a nuclear weapon in 2002?

Notice how deliberately vaguely this is written. "Experts say that at the time..." At what time? Early 1990's or 2002?

The LLL's are going to argue that since Saddam was able to build a nuke by the early 90's, and still had not done so by 2002, that proves that he wasn't intending to do so. They're also going to argue that some of the "conservative" members of Congress who pushed to put these documents on the web over Negroponte's and others' objections were criminally negligent--and some of them are up for election in just a few days.

I don't think it will fly. You're going to have conflicting claims about how dangerous this material really is, and only about .0001% of the public is in a position to judge that issue independently. The Republicans just need to go on offense immediately: no, this is no big deal. It's the materials, not the know-how, that matter, and Iran's been pursuing nukes too long for this literature to help them.

Gin Blossom
"Are you living in the past?"

Well sure. A good sense of history is important. How many under 50 really understand "We Didn't Start The Fire"?

[Link: www.lyricsfreak.com...]

Zardah is not entirely off track.

France Prepares 50,000 Riot Police for Muslim Attacks

The situation, however, never returned to normal. Unless one considers (as some French officials seem to do) the current situation as “normal.” In the first six months of this year there were 50,000 acts of urban violence by Muslims. On average 15 police officers, fire fighters or other public officials are attacked per day and 100 cars are set alight per night.

Miguel

No, not Hair. There was another one. I am doing a search.

#139 Gin Blossom

Hair

Equus

Gin Blossom

this one OH! CALCUTTA!

145 pat

To every season, turn, turn, turn, turn..
and that time to every purpose,
unto Heaven..

By the way, how much does anyone want to bet that the NYT gave this info to the Dems long enough ago so that they have their slick TV ads ready to go by the weekend?

150 X-Ray

That's it!

Oh Calcutta.

Hello Dolly!

#151 Gin Blossom
Indeed

I personally don't think that people running around a stage naked is entertaining, except from a medical perspective.

Cats.

I think more cars are burning in Paris than in Baghdad

#147 Gin Blossom

This one?

My Fair Lady.

155 pat

Actually Pat, they thought it was rather brave of them, that they were cutting edge, so to speak.

Just thank your lucky stars that no revival with the original cast is in the works. Such a show, just might kill the audience.

#154 MigueldowninMexico
No, Hello Dolly is Jihad porn. Cloning sheep is the only way to produce enough virgins for each of them to each get 72:)

The Incredible Mister Limpet

The fish had no clothes on...

#157 RTLM

I think more cars are burning in Paris than in Baghdad

C'est une quagmire horrible

RTLM
I'm so happy that Paris is in peace!
Oaxaca has had a soft war for five months and 40 buses have been burned!
I'm so glad France is in peace :)

158 fluffy

:{

x-ray
Jihad ponr! Hahahaha.
My Fair Lady must be a harem story then lol

Stagnation of Muslim intellectual life.

[Link: www.asianewsnet.net...]

[Link: www.onlineopinion.com.au...]

In spite of the above, we let Muslim academia flush their faculty toilets on Western Civilization. Here, those pigs run free range over fields of anti-Semitism, terrorism and shariah advocacy.

Future generations will hold pilgrimages to spit on the graves of the loathsome, ignoramuses who are delivering the West to the [bigoted word]s. That won't happen, but extensive resistance should be ongoing. And when Condi Rice says Palis want only a "good life," she should be trashed.

#160 Gin Blossom
On another hand, I looked up the cast and it included Adrienne Barbeau. That would have increased my focus considerably.

DUmmies panties in a bunch over this article.

268 pat

Because of her great acting skills..

lol ~

See you guys later..

Hello Miguel,

More like Paris is in Pieces

I heard Chavez has a hand in the Oaxaca business.

True?

Nite. Me too.

fluffy,
Paris - C'est la Vie

(Such is life. Sow & reap)

#166 MigueldowninMexico
Their other hot movie in the land of the Hijab is Bag Lady. Link is not funny I just put it in beacuse there is an actual movie.

Miguel

Time to say goodnight ~

B-b-but... Mark Foley is gay!

/Democrat

RTLM
What happens in France is above my understanding. How can a government allow something like that. In Europe. In France!
Doesn't compute. Frank Reich falling under the hordes from inside, on the way to become Frankinstan. I sure hope not.

About Oaxaca I'm preety sure that Chavez is involved. To what point I can't tell, but he sure is mixed there.
OTOH the problem with Mexicans is thay they (we) do what they like, in the long run. So any plans that Chavez has for them are going to be followed as long as the moonbats in Oaxaca fancy. So, he's in, but not in control.

Blossom
Good night and God bless :)

x-ray
Bag Lady is an excellent title for a mushi Musical. Quite descriptive lol.

#179 MigueldowninMexico

:')

What's happening with the Shadow Government^tm?

:')

The equivalent of a nude musical under Sharia law. Is a Bag Lady whose hem is above the ankle and the sound of her walking on the stage. No wonder they are so pissed.

Sage
LOL
I have funny news. The Shadow President to be (from the 20th) tried to lead a demonstration of the Oaxaca moonbats in Mexico City, and they asked him to go home. They didn't allow him to head the demonstration, not even to walk with them!
The President of the Shadow Government ™ seems to be toast, when not even other leftists would want him alongside with them.

Oh shit Miguel, you mean the whole Lefty movement is in disarray?

Miguel,

Maybe the shadow government should go back to the shadows.

Drive by posting. Desperately need sleep.

G'Nite.

Sage
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

MSM
That's it. It cast shadow only on itself lol
Good night ;)

Goodnight Miguel
God Bless

Gee. Pat already left, right?
pat
Good night :)

Good Night All.

RTLM
God bless you too! :)

Goodnight X-Ray

x-ray
Good night and God bless :)

Miguel, it's just me and you.

And I'm going to sleep.
Good nite...

Wow, when you've got a half hour to waste, check out the Troll #123 post.

/big LLL insight factor points

#169 sngnsgt

DUmmies panties in a bunch over this article.

No kidding. They even have a Red F-ing Alert thread where they foam at the mouth even further.

I'm thinkin' they haven't quite realized the fact that these documents, you know, prove even further that Bush was, you know, RIGHT about the threat Iraq presented...you know? :)

Hey Miguel.

Watch out for that Shadow Government^tm!

OK. Oaxaca has been somewhat violent, and in five months, forty buses were burned, and about 20 automoviles.
In France they are burning more than 100 vehicles a day. I can not imagine how does it feel to live in a country like that.
Almighty France! Incredible. I'm really shocked.
And my mom is such a devout of St Louis, King of France, an outstanding man in all senses, that carried the ninth and last Cruzade to Tunisia.
Where are the likes of those Franks? They made by themselves the first and the last Cruzade. They were brave, honorable. Men of deep Faith.
Where are they now?

OK, I'm really going to sleep now.

Goodnight Miguel.

Wayfarer
They're comming to take me away ha-ha, they're coming to take me awaaayyy...

Sage
Good night, Sage. God bless :)

200th!

If Iraq was trying to develop a nuclear weapon since 1991, and we waited until Bush Jr. was in the White House to stop the program, how does anyone explain the that North Korea and Iran are also going nuclear and no one has stopped their programs? Were the names of potentially dangerous nuclear nations put in a hat, and Iraq was the one drawn as the lucky winner? Wow, what a strategy.

I'm more concerned the bomb-making information was made Google-friendly. Talk about a world class f*ckup.

fluffy
Five bucks and I'll switch places with you :p

#195 PowerPro

DUmmies panties in a bunch over this article.

No kidding. They even have a Red F-ing Alert thread where they foam at the mouth even further.

I'm thinkin' they haven't quite realized the fact that these documents, you know, prove even further that Bush was, you know, RIGHT about the threat Iraq presented...you know? :)

Hey, just keep your distance, let 'em enjoy thheir manic swing. Get close and you'll just get bitten.

/because, by tomorrow, it'll occur to at least one of them what the article really means, who'll spread it to the rest, and then they'll collectively swing into depression and curse the NYT

How does anyone take the nytimestheyareachangin, seriously? They Suck the big one! Why is cbs on lgf, and cnn on hotair? Hey All, how ya doin?

theheat
I might be wrong, but I have the impression that since the sixties the information of how to make a fision bomb has been publically available. It was just a matter of knowing where to search for the info.
I may be wrong.

man, them dems are spinnin! they are desperate! My Rep Gibbons has been cleared on some bs scandal, yet my local news is still trying to take him down! I, for one, am not surprised!

Afghanistan and Iraq were rightly the first targets--Every one of the existing 54 Muslim Autocracies on this Planet is a potential "nuclear danger" and the survival of Western Democracy is predicated on reducing the potential of Nuclearization of all of these 1.3 billion Lunatic Jihadist Barbarians who are more than happy to self immolate and sacrifice millions of fellow Muslims to acheive a World dominated by Sharia--once that is accomplished they can again direct their energies at wholesale sectarian murder and mayhem without missing a beat-- next on our list is Iran, Syria and Pakistan--its our only option to win the war on terror!

#202 theheat

Gee, I guess Clinton GIVING nuclear technology (and a basketball) to North Korea was an act of inspiration huh?

I need to go to sleep. No time to beat up on trolls. Good night again.

He's all yours Miguel...

#202 theheat

how does anyone explain the that North Korea and Iran are also going nuclear and no one has stopped their programs?

We're taking "steps". We had U.N. and Congressional military authhotization for Iraq.

/we're still jumping through the hoops with the other two axes of evil but, rest assured, Bushh can pull the trigger on either program unilaterally and have 60 days to justify what he did, before the Bonkeys can actually, officially bitch about it

Miguel,

Oaxaca is Calderon's first challange. Fox is handing it to him on a platter.
___

They made by themselves the first and the last Cruzade. They were brave, honorable. Men of deep Faith.
Where are they now?

I believe your answer lies in the question of their Faith. No nation will long stand if their Faith in God evaporates. If the French can find God again, they'll live.
If they don't, Muslims will replace them.

Sage
Amazing. My troll detector was off LOL
On re-reading, I got it LOL
Thanks, and good night ;)

#206 Mdim

I might be wrong, but I have the impression that since the sixties the information of how to make a fision bomb has been publically available.

My father graduated from M.I.T. in the late fifties. As a sophomore, he spent some time at Alomogordo. He said they were pretty open with information about how to build a fission bomb. Fusion was a whole different matter.

I can't precisely remember the first time I heard some talking head pontificating about how a physics grad student could design a workable bomb.

RTLM
I couldn't agree more with all your concepts in # 211.
Yes to all LOL

Hello There Raidergirl

I'm fine!
Thanksforaskin'!
More importantly, Howa'you?

No DesertSage, don't go! You at least know the sleazy shit going on in the west! I mean the dems cry dirty campaigning, when they are the masters of it! and ps theheat 202, clinton gave it to the nkoreans dumbass!

Anyone can make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

/unless, of course, you don't have the peanut butter, the jelly, the bread, or the means to put them together

fluffy
So, I guess my recollections are right.
A fusion bomb has not been attained just yet.

theheat.
There you go. #213.

This is like getting all worked up about the release of the Secret Guacamole Recipe ™...that has been public for half a century ROFL

#217 Killian, umm, peanut butter & jelly!

#218 MigueldowninMexico

A fusion bomb has not been attained just yet.

Fusion weapons are old hat for the permanent members of the U.N. Security Council (and possibly Israel).

/everyone else is still in the fission category

#218 Miguel

A fusion bomb has not been attained just yet.

I'm no nuclear physicist, but I think a hydrogen bomb is fusion.

/IANANP

Killian
Fluffy

I defer to your deeper knowledge on the subject.
:)

#204 Killian Bundy

Hey, just keep your distance, let 'em enjoy thheir manic swing. Get close and you'll just get bitten.

/because, by tomorrow, it'll occur to at least one of them what the article really means, who'll spread it to the rest, and then they'll collectively swing into depression and curse the NYT

I don't know if it'll be as amusing as watching their shift from "Stick it to 'em, Kerry" to "Kerry's Blowing it for us AGAIN"...but I'm willing to sit back with my bag of Cornitos and find out. :)

Buns! I'm late but I am here. Sane too:)))

Miguel! You are holding down the fort again. Just waiting for breakfast?

/kinda tired of j fitzgerald cary talk~boring!

Scotch
I belong to the Owl Shift ;)

#222 fluffy

I'm no nuclear physicist, but I think a hydrogen bomb is fusion.

That's correct.

/pray they never have to fly

#225 Scotch, How about a big shout out to our folks serving all over the world! Love Them! Fuck john kerry & the lying dems!

OT
Gotta say it:

Tom Cruise running a studio?

Risky Business

Wow. So, at the time (i.e. to anyone that can read) of the first Gulf War, Iraq was 1 year away from having a nuclear weapon. If they had the material. Which they didn't have. And which would take them quite some time to get.

Ridiculous.

Miguel

OK. Oaxaca has been somewhat violent, and in five months, forty buses were burned, and about 20 automoviles.

That settles it...Oxaca is a quagmire! Mexico must end its imperialist occupation of Oxaca-stan! No blood for...erm...what does Oxaca produce, anyway?

#226 MigueldowninMexico

Who's Who

of the owl shift!

#230, enough, and we bowed to the unholy un! we should have kicked sadaams ass then! but nooo, we kinda let the dem aka dems, make the decision. We cannot allow that to happen again! Vote! Well goodnight All, Thanks for chatting, heehee!

230 enoughalready

If they had the material. Which they didn't have. And which would take them quite some time to get.

Ridiculous.

What about Osarik?

228 raidergirl

Yes Ma'am!

Love'em! Used to be one of the dummies! They are the best people in the world.

Fenway
The best mezcal. No blood for mezcal!

Para todo mal, mezcal, para todo bien, tambien.
(For all evil, mezcal, for all good, too) lol

Scotch
We are the Wise Shift.
Owls are wise LOL

OT:
Oscar Bin Laden?
Wal-Mart is making life difficult for Oscar Brufani, a 52-year-old man who makes his living delivering potato chips in Buenos Aires. One of the corporation's store managers thinks he looks like Osama bin Laden -- and won't let him come near her store.

#235 Scotch, Dummy, Not! Love You and all US Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines, and lest we forget, Coast Guard!

T-minus 1.5 hours until the dead thread.

Do you have the stamina?

/otherwise, you'd better take a [expletive deleted] nap

#237 MigueldowninMexico

I bow to the old wise one LOL

238 Quando
If not a sibling, definitely a sympathizer.

Smart Manager

Scotch
Ahem. I look around and it seems you are refering to me.
If I had teeth I would bite you!
LOL

#238

Actually, I thought I saw more of a resemblance to Saddam Hussein when they pulled him out of that spider hole.

#239 raidergirl

Our soldiers are fine but fine citizens that stand behind them are important too. Glad to stand beside you now in suppport of our sodiers:)

If not a sibling, definitely a sympathizer.

Smart Manager

huh? Did you read the article? He's an Italian-Argentine Catholic, not an Arab.
And his beard is more a ZZtop thing, not a jihadi thing.

#243 MigueldowninMexico

I thnk I am looking into a mirror:)))

/old but only sometimes wise one

//not too dang old tho!

"Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."

Perhaps others have already mentioned this but the above is NOT the same as having the appropriate materials to do so. Charles is misrepresenting this story.

Scotch
I'm Father Cronos.
Older than anyone else.

/and that doesn't make me wiser lol

Well, Night All, Have a good night. Say A Sincere Prayer for my bro in the hell hole! And all the wonderful guys and gals in harms way!

Liberal bloggers rip party over Lamont

Kozkids [expletive deleted] with Lieberman, end up sowing the losing end as usual, and generally reap the nutroot whirlwind.

/God bless them, they know not what they do to help Republlicans

Couldn't resist. Little brother went this

[Link: www.ronaldreagan.com...]

Went this...Sent this!

Pimf moment

246 Quando 11/3/2006 12:34AM PST
If not a sibling, definitely a sympathizer.

Smart Manager

huh? Did you read the article? He's an Italian-Argentine Catholic, not an Arab.
And his beard is more a ZZtop thing, not a jihadi thing.

Honestly no I didn't - just passed a drunken judgement on seeing his last name.

My Bad...

#248 isadore, you must be full of shit! oops, must have mis read the story, not, you are full of shit, head to kos or du, and you will be ok!

# 217 K B

Heh.

Well Night All!

Hey savage! Howaya?

Karl Rove, you are mighty

[Link: karl.rove.youaremighty.com...]

#258 raidergirl

G'night. I do think of your bro and a goodly number guys I know that are still active duty.

Sleep well.

Howdy Mike C.

Damn - gotta sleep.

No dread thread for me...

We need some humor:))) to lighten the day, early or late

[Link: www.vidilife.com...]

[Link: www.vidilife.com...]

Are you still awake?

/ZZ Top lackluster performance inn Germany

Yo, RTLM.

Let's incite an LGF riot!

Men Are Just Happier People--

What do you expect from such simple creatures? Your last name stays put. The garage is all yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another snack. You can be President. You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.
The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another gas station restroom because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add character. Wedding dress~$5000. Tux rental~$100. People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them. The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time. Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness. If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend. Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes.

Everything on your face stays its original color. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades. You only have to shave your face and neck. You can play with toys all your life. Your belly usually hides your big hips. One wallet and one pair of shoes one color for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look. You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice concerning growing a mustache. You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

Scotch
Thanks for those videos LOL

268 MigueldowninMexico

Anything to get the thread 'kicked up' :))

Scotch
LOL
That's right!

Miguel

35 posts in the last hour:((

Where's amalie?

Scotch
I haven't seen Amalie for a long time.
I think she moved to Shangri La...

Maybe she plans to reincarnate as a Blossom...

Well, give me a few to move and set up again, and I'll be back.

What do you expect from such simple creatures? Your last name stays put. Ever meet anyone born with the name Schmuckler? Tsk! Poor guy was stuck with it. The garage is all yours. Fine. The rest of the house is mine. Wedding plans take care of themselves. The wedding BILL, however does not. Chocolate is just another snack. You poor thing! You can be President. Psst! Don't tell Hillary! You can never be pregnant. You got me there. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. This is a fashion statement we should be jealous of? You can wear NO shirt to a water park. Whatevah. Car mechanics tell you the truth. Car mechanics tell me to turn up the radio to drown out "that noise". Betcha I'm happier for it.

#271 Scotch

Where's amalie

None of your [expletive delleted] business.

/watch for the windowless black van in the street outside your residence

For the uhm...LGF Ladies...uhmm Women:))) USMC Gladiator

#274 lol

You can never be pregnant. You got me there.

The internet has come a long way.

#272 MigueldowninMexico
She was drinkin' a bit too much gin:)))

/Worried

A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase. And thank you for carrying my four suitcases! You can open all your own jars. Whataguy! Such talent! (They have tools for this now, you know) You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness. After you reach a certain age, we women expect YOU to be grateful. If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend. Oh. Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack. Not too get too personal, but when was the last time you bought underwear? Hmmm? Three pairs of shoes are more than enough. BORING! You almost never have strap problems in public. Wake up dude! This is the 21st century! You are allowed to fix your straps in public. SHEESH. You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes. We don't give a flying caddidlehopper about wrinkles in clothes. What made you think we did?