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The NYT/IAEA Conspiracy

Sat, Nov 4, 2006 at 8:39:23 am PST

An Arabic-speaking blogger who has been translating Iraqi documents from the DOD web site has some very interesting remarks about the New York Times/IAEA election hit; he has been trying to get the IAEA to answer questions about his findings on Saddam’s nuclear plans since early October:

On October 5th 2006 I sent the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) an e-mail requesting some answers to the findings I got from the captured Iraqi documents regarding Saddam Regime re-constructing their prohibited nuclear program. The findings were about Saddam regime rebuilding and re-using some of their nuclear labs and facilities like the RWTS (Radioactive Waste Treatment Station), Radio-Chemistry Laboratories, and the Degussa Furnaces which are used to melt Uranium and other nuclear activities.

Of course I did not receive any response from the IAEA but here we go today and read in the New York Times article that the IAEA has complained recently about US captured documents showing some sensitive nuclear information. The IAEA and the New York Times did not care about the documents showing Saddam regime re-constructing its nuclear program because these documents expose all the lies that they have been spreading in the last three years but they are rather focusing on a small released portion of Iraq 1996 FFCD (Full Final and complete disclosure) that relates to Iraq previous nuclear program.

I am not sure if the IAEA was not aware, before I sent them the e-mail, that the captured Iraqi documents were posted on the FMSO website but it seems they have reacted just recently about these documents and their reaction unfortunately was not to show Saddam re-building his nuclear programs as many documents prove but rather to blame the Bush administration for publishing part of Iraq 1996 FFCD which by the way was not such a secret document as the IAEA is pretending since this FFCD has been reviewed by experts of “Members Nations” and thus it can be subjected to leak regardless.

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1 BabbaZee  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:41:02am

GOD bless you Joseph Shahda.

2 brinks  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:42:48am

We can't judge Iraq's nuclear program by the same standards as we do ours. There are cultural differences.

Wait. Isn't that what we're in fact doing?

3 Pastorius  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:43:52am

Warning: Uncovered Meat

Let's see if all you Infidels out there can keep yourselves under control.

Bwa hahahahahaha!

4 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:44:00am

I think the NYT justifies this as propaganda to save us from propaganda.

Turns out they are saving us from a sober set of truths.

5 galloping granny  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:45:03am

As I mentioned when someone posted this on another thread, I can think of no reason that this man would have approached the IAEA with his questions had he not found evidence that Iraq WAS rebuilding their nuclear programs.

I just wish that he had approached the American government instead. The IAEA has long proven that they are not really invested in stopping the spread of nuclear weaponry and absolutely against anything the US government might say or do.

I hope that Fox picks up this story. The New York Slimes deserves a good kick in the teeth. Funny they do not even see that their "story" actually proves that Bush was right to go into Iraq.

6 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:45:13am

A special anniversary for Jimmy Carter and his Iranian masters

Thousands of Iranians chanted "Death to America" on Saturday outside the former U.S. embassy that students stormed on this day in 1979, reaffirming
Iran's defiance now it faces possible sanctions for its nuclear work.

Iran sees itself as victimized by an aggressive United States bent on controlling the Middle East and exacting revenge against Tehran's Islamic leaders for overthrowing the U.S.-backed shah 27 years ago.

Washington wants the
United Nations Security Council to toughen a draft resolution drawn up by Britain, France and Germany for sanctions against Iran over its nuclear program. But Russia and China want the draft watered down. Iran says its atomic program is entirely peaceful.

"Unfortunately America has not learned its lesson from the takeover of its embassy, they should know that threats and sanctions do not affect the will of this great nation," parliamentary speaker Gholamali Haddadadel told protesters.

"Nuclear energy is our certain right," the crowd responded.

Demonstrators burned U.S. and Israeli flags as well as effigies of Uncle Sam and
President Bush outside the former embassy which state media calls the "nest of spies." It is now a base for Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards.

"We are here to punch America in the mouth," said student Mohsen Abdullahi. "We want to tell the Americans and British they are nothing in the face of Iran's power."

"GREAT SATAN"

Many high school students had been let out of class to attend the annual demonstration and while the crowd appeared to number up to 10,000, turnout was not as big as previous years.

Protesters carried banners proclaiming the rallying cries of "death to America" and "death to Israel," and "America is the Great Satan."

7 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:45:31am

.

Saddam regime re-constructing its nuclear program

Saddam re-building his nuclear programs as many documents prove

Of course this is not interesting for Muhamad El Baradei.

For him and for all the islamofascists and the Democratic leftists, BUSH is the greatest danger.

Which danger ? The danger that the general plan to destroy the Free Society by external attacks and by internal subversion will fail and that America will remain Free and strong.

8 galloping granny  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:46:55am
#3 Pastorius 11/4/2006 08:43AM PST

Warning: Uncovered Meat

Let's see if all you Infidels out there can keep yourselves under control.

Bwa hahahahahaha!

I am no prude by a long shot, but I fail to see how posting pics that verge on pornography a la Playboy can possible stick it to the Cat Meat Imam.

Stupidity at it's finest.

9 galloping granny  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:49:07am
#6 JammieWearingFool 11/4/2006 08:45AM PST

A special anniversary for Jimmy Carter and his Iranian masters

The daughter was reading me a little blurb from somewhere or other this morning about Iranian women. Seems that a huge proportion of those attending universities in Iran are women. One physics department 70% female. And they are all refusing to marry because they would then need their husband's permission to work.

Good for them!

10 Bill Amos  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:49:51am

THe mmonbats are in glee it seems that the US Army Times and many of the military newspapers on monday will print an article asking for Rumsfeld to resign.

[Link: www.armytimes.com...]

11 mjk  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:50:09am

OT (by a lot):
I just got back from Israel yesterday. Man, I love that country! I wish I could spend months there! Overall, it was a fabulous time and I completely encourage anyone on this message board to go there and see what an incredible country it is.

12 Thanos  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:52:17am

"Move along, these are not the droidsWMD we are looking for"


I'm still in the midst of getting up leaves (two pin oaks make this hell every year :) but stopped in for a moment with a thought:

Our polling place changed last year, as they sometimes do. Please take a moment today to figure out where you are voting next Tuesday, make sure you know where to vote.

13 paint-right  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:52:33am

Thank you, granny

14 lawhawk  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:56:59am

Combine this with what Ray Robison was posting, and we've got some strangeness at the IAEA. Curiousities indeed.

15 paint-right  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:58:49am

#12 thanos

good point. I thought that I would be racing to the polling place at the last minute, with barely enough time to vote, but remembered that I will, instead have plenty of time. Conference day at school and no kids means out early!

I'm in Massachusetts, and I will vote for every Republican on the ticket. Unless anyone thinks I don't research the candidates... I do, I do, I do. Republican it is, no matter how futile here.

16 Pastorius  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:59:49am

Galloping Granny,

Certainly, I become stupid when faced with such images. IQ points melt away. There is no doubt about it.

I am particularly stupid this morning.

17 j.pickens  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:02:13am

So, let me get this straight, Iran, as a UN member nation, had full access to these documents. And the NYT says that the fact that the documents were also made available on the internet allowed Iran to use the documents.


Have I got that right?

18 bweep  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:07:39am

Does anyone have a link to the film the UN weapons inspectors took by climbing a tower outside an Iraqi base where they were being refuse entry? It appeared to show centrifuges rolling out of the back on lorries. The base commander was executed the next day.
I want to find the link so that the next time some hack asks about Iraqi WMDs, I can ask where these things went.

19 galloping granny  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:08:02am
#16 Pastorius 11/4/2006 08:59AM PST

Galloping Granny,

Certainly, I become stupid when faced with such images. IQ points melt away. There is no doubt about it.

I am particularly stupid this morning.

Then let me spell it out for you a little more clearly. By posting pornography in the guise of "freedom" and sticking it to the Cat Meat Imam you do all of the female half of the human race a HUGE disservice.

Women are NOT MEAT. What you are posting exactly illustrates the Cat Meat Imam's point rather than celebrating women in all their strength, intelligence and glory.

20 scorpio  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:08:59am

#10 Bill Amos

THe mmonbats are in glee it seems that the US Army Times and many of the military newspapers on monday will print an article asking for Rumsfeld to resign.

On Monday. I'm sure it's just a coincidence this is coming one day before the election. Just like the gay hooker guy's story.

I do question the timing.

21 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:12:52am

#19 Galloping Granny

Very sad.
So you agree with the imam that flesh is only meat, that an image of a naked woman is JUST an image of meat.

Strange, I think it is, like every Creature, an Image of Beauty and Revelation, a Light for the World and a Help on the Way.

22 galloping granny  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:15:39am
#21 Poitiers-Lepanto 11/4/2006 09:12AM PST

#19 Galloping Granny

Very sad.
So you agree with the imam that flesh is only meat, that an image of a naked woman is JUST an image of meat.

Strange, I think it is, like every Creature, an Image of Beauty and Revelation, a Light for the World and a Help on the Way.

Not at all do I agree with the Imam. There are a plenty of pictures of beautiful women that present them as individuals. That particular picture shows a nearly naked woman who does not even have a face. It is a perfect illustration of MEAT - not an illustration of woman.

23 Geepers  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:22:39am

Bill Amos (#10),

THe mmonbats are in glee it seems that the US Army Times and many of the military newspapers on monday will print an article asking for Rumsfeld to resign.

No military papers are calling for Rumsfeld to resign.

The ArmyTimes has no affiliation with the US Army. It's a newspaper published by Gannett.

24 Pastorius  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:23:29am

No Galloping Granny, it does not illustrate what you say. It illustrates that Western men will not go on a raping spree when they see such images.

For your information, personally, I am such a prude that I will not talk to an unmarried woman.

However, I will not lie, I love to look at nekkid women, as most men do.

Please don't hate me for that. I can't help it that I'm a cad.

25 Pastorius  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:24:33am

Oh, and by the way, the "Uncovered Meat" gal is not nekkid, for anyone who doesn't know.

I don't post pics of nekkid gals on IBA.

26 galloping granny  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:27:41am
#24 Pastorius 11/4/2006 09:23AM PST

No Galloping Granny, it does not illustrate what you say. It illustrates that Western men will not go on a raping spree when they see such images.

For your information, personally, I am such a prude that I will not talk to an unmarried woman.

However, I will not lie, I love to look at nekkid women, as most men do.

Please don't hate me for that. I can't help it that I'm a cad.


Of course all men like to look at naked women. However, you are not posting the pic as just looking at naked women, you are posting it as an in your face F** You to the Cat Meat Imam.

No matter how much you like to look at that picture and others like it, it does not illustrate that Western men won't go on a rampage of rape (not always true BTW - remember Tail Hook). It shows a female that is nothing more than a piece of meat. Nameless, faceless, personality-less, naked meat.

If you want to look at that stuff in your bathroom that is between you and your wife. When you post it on the net you are doing all of us a disservice - a huge one. You are confirming just exactly what the asshole imam said.

27 galloping granny  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:28:50am
#25 Pastorius 11/4/2006 09:24AM PST

Oh, and by the way, the "Uncovered Meat" gal is not nekkid, for anyone who doesn't know.

I don't post pics of nekkid gals on IBA.

A thong, two bandaids and some hair barely qualify as "not naked."

You are a disgrace to your mother!

28 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:34:04am

Dugg this article - the one about the NYT/IAEA conspiracy, not the current feud between Galloping Granny and Pastorius.

Carry on.

29 EC Marm  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:36:12am
An Arabic-speaking blogger who has been translating Iraqi documents from the DOD web site has some very interesting remarks about the New York Times/IAEA election hit; he has been trying to get the IAEA to answer questions about his findings on Saddam’s nuclear plans since early October:


This blogger (jveritas on Free Republic) is quite an interesting story. He has been translating these pages for quite a while, on his own time and at his own expense. The main stream press has totally ignored his findings. Why? Because it is in opposition to the Democrat talking points that Saddam neither had WMD or was in the process of developing them. I am extremely skeptical that the NYT has chosen this time and place to reveal this story. When I slide my tin-hat on I'm wondering if they are going to wait until Wednesday to start revealing the truth.

30 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:37:12am

#26 Galloping Granny

It shows a female that is nothing more than a piece of meat. Nameless, faceless, personality-less, naked meat.

I read your answer above and I read this answer to Pastorius.

I never try to convince anybody, so don't get mad at me, I just have to ask this:
by what turn of thoughts

name
face
personality

would be "good" and flesh would be MEAT ?

There are many Zoroastrians on this Forum and I always respect their points of view, and I respect yours, but please don't present dualistic and nihilistic points as if they were "natural". It's an ideology.

31 galloping granny  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:43:30am
#30 Poitiers-Lepanto 11/4/2006 09:37AM PST

#26 Galloping Granny

It shows a female that is nothing more than a piece of meat. Nameless, faceless, personality-less, naked meat.

I read your answer above and I read this answer to Pastorius.

I never try to convince anybody, so don't get mad at me, I just have to ask this:
by what turn of thoughts

name
face
personality

would be "good" and flesh would be MEAT ?

There are many Zoroastrians on this Forum and I always respect their points of view, and I respect yours, but please don't present dualistic and nihilistic points as if they were "natural". It's an ideology.

If you want to illustrate the glory of women who are not hidden inside their homes, inside their rooms, inside their head-to-toe black bags then you do not need to use what would be considered pornography on the cover of a magazine to do so. How about pictures of some of those gorgeous IDF girls, or some of our own? There are thousands of pictures of beautiful, intelligent women.

Go hunt up some of the studies about the effects of pornography on young men and the cultural emphasis on "beauty" on young women.

32 BabbaZee  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 7:56:58am

WOW this thread took a wierod turn.

33 bouzouki  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 8:03:51am

Hi Babba Zee!

Just stopped by to say hi to my favourite piece of uncovered meat.

Meow.

B.

34 Beagle  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 8:12:43am

The IAEA is covering up for the world's dangerous proliferators.... Er, girl in bikini. What were we talking about?

35 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 8:18:23am

#34 Beagle

The IAEA is covering up for the world's dangerous proliferators.... Er, girl in bikini. What were we talking about?

You're right.

Although I could say that our words can barely be heard in the roar of... the deafening silence of ALL the media about Saddam's nuclear program that Bush stopped.

I presume that the best propaganda for the democrats, liars and traitors, is a press made of liars and traitors.

36 BabbaZee  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 8:23:50am

#33 bouzouki
Hey! SO good to see you!

37 funky chicken  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 9:22:52am

29 EC Marm. Perhaps they are setting themselves up to patch things up with the government after (they think) their party is in control of congress?

Once their anticipated dem congress takes over they can publish all these stories with a weasely mea culpa and start writing all about how the wonderful goverment will protect us all from these threats blah blah.

38 funky chicken  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 9:29:54am

Boys, listen to granny. She's right and wise.

39 paint-right  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 10:18:16am

#38 funky

I agree, mostly because such posts tarnish this sight IMHO

Hate giving ammo to the left.

Also i dislike such postings on threads which are unconnected topically to the imam. post it there or save it for the open.

my 2 cents.

40 republic  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 11:02:11am

I sat that the Justice Dept. has enough credible evidence to charge the NYT's with treason, and when found guilty, all who have participated, be hung in the public square!

I am very serious!

41 Scorch  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 11:52:13am

I read almost all of the information on the link and noticed that most of the links to pdf documents do not work. Can someone explain why? The information there is going to cause a lot of questions to be asked no matter which way the election goes. I just want to make sure the info is accurate. Dead links always make me uneasy.

42 Promethea  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 12:18:58pm

#40 republic . . .

I say that the Justice Dept. has enough credible evidence to charge the NYT's with treason, and when found guilty, all who have participated, be hung in the public square!

Hung in Times Square?

43 sailordude  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 1:22:18pm

Did I just see "Tail Hook" invoked as an example of rape?

Granny, you really need to make yourself smart of the issues before you go invoking some left-wing created controversy as proof that your position/opinion is correct.

Nothing worse than a recently reformed liberal. Much like a smoker who has finally quit. They break out the holier-than-thou BS.

44 OregonMuse  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 4:33:56pm

Gee that's funny, I don't remember hearing any of this on the NPR story I heard on Friday.

What a surprise.

45 avk2  Sat, Nov 4, 2006 6:47:49pm

Cant we get Saddam Hussein to spill the beans about everything truthfully-in exchange for his life-by Tuesday morning?

/completely serious this time


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