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The Media Are the Enemy

Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 7:58:37 am PST

You’re not going to believe this one.

All our suspicions about mainstream media slanting and distorting the news from the Middle East are confirmed in a bombshell of a post by Bruno Stevens, at the Lightstalkers pro photographers’ forum: The Lebanon ‘garbage dump’ story: complete explanation. (Hat tip: Snapped Shot.)

His photograph, published by both US News and World Report and Time Magazine, had a caption describing the scene as the wreckage of an Israeli jet shot down by Hizballah. In this post, Stevens reveals that the captions he sent in with his pictures described the scene accurately—but editors at the magazines changed the captions to completely alter the story.

This caption clearly says that there is no proof that an Israeli jet had been shot down and that the objective was indeed to destroy a legitimate military target.

...A week later TIME published this image shot at the same time as the first...

They choose to caption it this way (I had NO control in this matter), they HAD my original caption: “The wreckage of a downed Israeli jet that was targeting Hizballah trucks billows smoke behind a Hizballah gunman in Kfar Chima, near Beirut. Jet fuel set the surrounding area ablaze.”

The anti-Israel bias of mainstream media has never been revealed more nakedly; the editors who selected this photograph deliberately changed the caption to convey an anti-Israel message, throwing the truth right out the window to do it.

And even more damning is the photo they chose not to publish, showing a medium range ground-to-ground missile launcher hidden in a civilian truck—on a Lebanese Army base. Stevens explains:

This is a very important piece of evidence showing probable collusion between Hezbollah and the Lebanese Army, there is little doubt that the Lebanese Army was aware of the presence of at least one missile launcher and at least one large missile on their parking lot. The size of the launcher, destroyed a couple of days later from the ground by an unknown party suggest missiles 10 to 14 meters long.

There were 6 to 8 large articulated trucks parked there, making it a very legitimate target for the Israeli Air Force, quite far away from civilian houses.

As I’ve written before, mainstream media is an absolute disgrace—and this time we can’t even blame it on local stringers doing the work of Hizballah. These distortions were perpetrated by Western editors, sitting in comfortable offices, demonizing Israel and covering up evidence of Hizballah war crimes and collusion with the Lebanese Army.

As Brian at Snapped Shot notes, we owe a debt of gratitude to Bruno Stevens for telling the truth about his photos.

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1 TenRing  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:00:46am

Nothing to see here. Move along.

2 mbruce  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:00:58am

Time is Treason. When will our leaders put a stop to this? Ever?

3 HeatherRadish  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:01:50am
You’re not going to believe this one.

Oh, I totally believe it. I wish I didn't have to.

4 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:02:13am

GOD bless you
Bruno Stevens -
thanks for speaking the truth.

I am going to read his posts now.

Brave guy.
He'll probably loose a lot of work via this....

5 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:02:16am

Yikes, everything's in italics now. You must've hit the keyboard pretty damn hard, Charles.

6 seejanemom  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:03:16am

How and WHY?

7 Golem Akbar  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:03:21am

Charles, this story needs to be sent to the LA/NY Times, WSJ, and other media outlets. It may be one of the most important exposes of the month, imho.

8 trip  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:03:22am

The time will come, and will be soon, that anything - anything - that the MSM will say or do, will not be believed!

9 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:03:55am

Okay, now the italics are gone. Never mind.

Bruno Stevens should scream long and hard about this outrage by the MSM.

10 FrogMarch  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:04:25am

time magazine ---*spit*

11 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:05:29am

The Lightstalkers server is sagging under the weight of the lizardlanche.

12 Golem Akbar  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:07:01am

Lots of media outlets out there competing with Time/Warner. I'll bet even Newsweek would run with it.

13 westbankmama  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:07:50am

Antisemites are not just the ones in the white robes.

14 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:08:14am

#13 westbankmama
you got that right WBM!

15 Elric66  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:08:27am

Whats to gain by the media by trying to destroy the culture in which they live in?

16 Golem Akbar  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:08:33am

Talk radio will love this. Rush/Prager et al. And they all read LGF.

17 Ben B  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:08:37am

A very powerful presentation. Thanks for posting it.

18 formercorpsman  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:08:40am

Der Stuermer

19 PMODAS  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:08:51am

I wish I didn't have to believe it. Sad but ture.

20 tedzilla99  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:09:19am

Unfortunately, I do believe it, and even more unfortunate, it doesn't surprise me at all.

I wonder how different things would be right now with a truly objective and honest press. It's shameful and disgusting.

21 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:10:33am

This shouldn't surprise anyone. The media continues to take sides in global conflicts, and will instinctively write biased pieces against Israel or the US regardless of the facts and circumstances.

That they omit and change items to push this agenda isn't new.

What's new is that people can get near immediate feedback and find the errors in the reporting in a way that wasn't possible even a few years ago. The problem is that these media outlets will simply issue corrections on page A30 (if at all), and do little to improve the oversight and editorial controls to limit such reporting. Further, when the editors themselves are inserting the bias and skewed reporting (as in this instance), there is little chance that accurate reporting will take place.

22 Owl  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:10:57am

Someone at a Best Buy store signed me up for "Time" - even though i told them I didn't want my " free " subscription when I bought my big screen.

Every time it hits my mailbox, the next place it hits is the trashcan.

23 Hazmat  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:13:00am

Lawhawk is right. Also the msm thinks the midterm elections were their victory, it is going to get worse before it can begin to get better.

24 Ben B  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:13:14am

#15 Elric 66

I ask myself this question time after time. I simply do not understand the reason for the media support of terrorists who wish to tear down our civilization.

25 brent  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:13:39am

Ok, even though I didn't believe I could be shocked any more, I am freeking shocked.

I had given up on Time as biased, but this goes to the side of the spectrum with anti-semitism, anti-Americanism, anti-truth.

Seriously, that is so beyond the pale that I don't know how to react.

26 Elric66  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:14:32am

#24 Ben B 11/14/2006 08:13AM PST
#15 Elric 66

I ask myself this question time after time. I simply do not understand the reason for the media support of terrorists who wish to tear down our civilization.

Nothing to gain from it. Its senseless.

27 scaryfast  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:14:37am

I got a gift subscription of Time for Christmas. It goes right from my mailbox to my trash can.

28 Golem Akbar  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:14:59am

#23 Hazmat

Also the msm thinks the midterm elections were their victory

Bloggers like Charles and talk radio can prove otherwise.

29 homeinzion  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:15:13am

Amazing. What do these MSM editors think will keep their heads on their shoulders if the side they're cheering for actually wins?

30 tfc3rid  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:16:19am

I honestly belive that the media does not believe that the terrorists mean to kill them...

I think they see these groups as fighting for a purpose and that they would never risk their lives by detonating a nuclear weapon on US soil or something like that. They are stuck in an age of MAD... That doesn't play against these types...

Plus, the media are big supportes of socialist/communist socieities... They see the Republicans as the party of Reagan who oboliterated communism in the USSR... The Republicans will always be the enemy...

31 Jemison Thorsby  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:16:23am

Why did it take this long for the photographer to start making noise about it? Or was he protesting earlier and just having a hard time being heard? Just wondering.

32 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:16:49am

Libs do not go onto journalism to report the news. That is so last generation.
They go into journalism "to make a difference".
In English that means push their liberal world view. Doubt me. Take a course at your local university.

This is no surprise.

Where was the outrage when the network news was reporting so many rumors as fact during Katrina? Cannibalism, mass violence at the superdome, etc.

They are not journalists. At best they are fools. At worse they are propagandists.

33 Pope Insouciance IV  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:17:48am

I agree with Ben B. I have no idea what goes through the minds of people who constantly libel our friends and cover for our enemies.
This isn't a game, idiots. It's not even about pumping up your subscription rate. It's as freakin' serious as it gets.
To paraphrase Lynn Cheney, Do they want us to win, or don't they?

34 tfc3rid  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:17:53am

O/T:

YAY! Harry Reid elecred as Senate MAjority leader!

YAY!

Looks like the Dems are really ended that DC Culture of Corruption(TM)

35 Hazmat  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:18:40am

28 Golem Akbar

I agree, what I mean is they are feeling justified and expect more bullshit from them.

36 Curt  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:18:48am

I got thinking yesterday and came up with a little walk down memory lane to frame this post:

Iraq: The Democrats 21st Century Cambodia?"

A commenter brought me the story of a Vietnamese refugee, who's father had been and ARVN, and they escaped to the states, where this man became a Marine pilot and flew in GW 1.

Food for thought....The enemy of the world has just seized power in the Congress!

37 tfc3rid  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:18:55am

I apologize for my AWFUL grammar and spelling 2-day!

38 Dan Patterson  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:19:12am

Those of us on sites like this suspend reality when we posture and brag about how some bad decision or piece of propaganda must (MUST!) be brought to the public's attention. "This shall not stand" we say. Well fine, but unless a grass-roots effort is made to expose lies and deceit, then we'll all just preach to the converted.

Another "Swift Boat" sort of approach is in order; I thought that was covered by other groups but I guess not. Either that or they've rolled over.

Dan Patterson
Arrogant Infidel

39 Poitiers-Lepanto  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:19:19am

The media are the enemy

AND at the same time, the media are now sitting on a time bomb, created by them.
When the appeasers politicians will cause great tragedies to the West, the media will fall completely in the hands of the muslim invaders.
They have lost their place in history.

History now lives in the network of the blogs of the Resistance.

40 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:19:34am

#31 Jemison Thorsby

Cause he likes eating, I'm assuming, but the food was souring in his belly?

I am very proud of this guy.

41 playblu  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:20:29am

This isn't "treason". It IS shameful. Not that TIME has any shame.

We need to get word of this to any "friendly" news organization. Pepper O'Reilly with this until he talks about it on his show. Make sure Rush talks about it today - somebody call in to his show and bring this up, if he doesn't already (he may).

What about the ADL? Can somebody get word to them?

This needs to be as big as Dan Rather and the magic typewriter. Our goal should be to equate TIME magazine and Mel Gibson in the public's mind.

This isn't the NYTimes, where the perpetrator is so big they can act with impunity (at the moment). TIME can be damaged, can be shown to be the anti-semites they are. An advertiser boycott?

C'mon, other practical suggestions?

42 crashnburn  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:21:04am

Heck, even media ads are biased against us - have you seen the Cisco ad with the American classroom's prototypical "white kid" engaged in a staring contest with an Asian kid in his classroom via teleconference? Of course, the decedant American loses the staring contest and then the Asian children gleefully run about their classroom celebrating their victory. Maybe Cisco is trying to line up some router sales to China?

I sat there with my son the first time we saw the ad and told him $100 to $1 on the American losing. He wouldn't take it. Smart kid.

43 daughter of patriots  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:21:08am

Perusing the kitchen table here at work I came across this tidbit of obfuscation from USA Today: Under Nationline (print version, not online).

Taking Flight for Tolerance
In Fremont, CA: Peace Terrace Academy Students Madina Hashemi, left & Erika Vigil release doves to honor Alia Ansari, a mother of six, was shot dead & killed Oct. 19 as she walked to school to get her kids.

Above there is image of burqa'd teenage girls releasing doves.

Here is the article on the death of Alia Ansari.

Witnesses told police he fit a general description of what they saw at the scene -- a dark-skinned man who appeared to take off in a dark Toyota Tercel with a rear spoiler. But he has not been arrested in Ansari's homicide. Police said that forensic results to determine if there was gunpowder residue found on the man's hands, among other tests, have not come back yet.

The coroner conducted an autopsy Monday and confirmed that Ansari was killed by a gunshot to the head.

I wouldn't put it past the RoPer's and the MSM to make this look like a hit from the Christofascists or Neocons. When in fact, it could have been a HONOR KILLING, or set up to make Muslims appear as victims, or merely to begin the "seething" cycle.

44 tfc3rid  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:21:30am

Dan Patterson...

I completely agree... We are all on the same side here. However, the people who need to know this are those who get their news in 10 second sound bytes on the Today Show, or learn it via Oprah...

We need to start something where we can have that direct influence on those who don't really 'get it' like we do!

45 Solomon X  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:21:33am

Shocked! Schocked that the MSM would mislead us with blatantly false captions!

er

Hamas hints at compromise on Israel

46 Golem Akbar  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:21:37am

#35 Hazmat

they are feeling justified and expect more bullshit from them.

The MSM need a good bitch-slapping or two, just to see that we are very much awake and aware of their lies.

47 Dave the.....  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:23:25am

No advertiser boycotts. Best is just boycott the publication. Ad revenue will fall with readership drops.

And the left actually believes there is a conservative bias to MSM. Really.

48 Hazmat  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:24:43am

46 Golem Akbar

The msm will make a full out effort to show bloggers as fringe, of course it is the last bastion of the independent thinker, but expect a full phased blitz by the msm to discredit the blogs.
And just major bitch-slap is in order.

49 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:24:58am

What is real anymore? We have gone from reading and watching the news and taking what was presented to us with a grain of salt to now having to face that there has been an ongoing, deliberate propaganda effort underway for how long? Do we even know when the propaganda started? Is there no longer any truth out there to be found?
I only have questions and I have a real uneasy feeling in my soul, not just because of this, but because of the ongoing and persistent distortion of reporting of the facts. I no longer know what is the truth.
As fast as these types of stories are brought to my attention via the web I am left with the question of whether or not the information presented on various blogs is also true. No disrespect to Charles but once you become a disbeliever it cuts both ways.
I tend to believe the blogs slightly more then the old antique media but since both have prejudices and biases I am unwilling to put 100% trust in either. I obviously can't travel around the world to verify news stories so I am stuck with an even more confusing picture of the world.
I now know why in a recent poll 51% of the respondents did not know who Nancy Pelosi was.

50 Golem Akbar  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:25:07am

#38 Dan Patterson

Well fine, but unless a grass-roots effort is made to expose lies and deceit, then we'll all just preach to the converted.

Not at all. Plenty of media types read LGF and you know, plenty of Kos-ites read it, too. Wait until talk radio gets ahold of this. It's good we talk about it. We are the grass roots.

51 easy  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:25:16am

#32 hous bin pharteen
Amen. Preach it brother.

52 dead sea squirrel  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:25:27am

Some of the reactions to Stevens' post by other photographers are also interesting, like this one from Nicola Suggs:

I used to work for a London photojournalism agency and can confirm that clients DO sometimes change captions to tell the story THEY want to tell.

We had a similar problem after the 7th July bombings, where several captions were changed, making the images very misleading!

It's getting harder to ignore the stench.

One small point in the story that we in the debunker camp need to pick up on is, it WASN'T a "garbage dump." It was a military parking lot.

53 bj  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:26:47am

I certainly hope Media Watch orgs. pick this up and plaster it all over public media .. TV, radio, newspapers, internet and government sites, etc.

Care to bet on that happening?

54 Golem Akbar  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:26:54am

Let's add Michelle Malkin, Fox News, and others. They also check out LGF. heh

55 Buckeye Abroad  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:27:04am

As I’ve written before, mainstream media is an absolute disgrace—and this time we can’t even blame it on local stringers doing the work of Hizballah. These distortions were perpetrated by Western editors, sitting in comfortable offices, demonizing Israel and covering up evidence of Hizballah war crimes and collusion with the Lebanese Army.

Even the North Vietmanese admitted that the western media "won" Vietnam for them, so why should this be any different.

56 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:27:09am

Great work, Bruno. Stay safe.

57 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:28:35am
We are the grass roots.

GANJIHAD!

58 X  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:28:41am

#49 Just_a_Grunt

Do we even know when the propaganda started?

It came into its own (full bloom) during the VietNam era, as Rush likes to put it (paraphrasing) the Media became its own political party. Every since they have been pushing their own agenda.

59 Reluctant Democrat  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:28:45am

It is the editors, and that makes it all the more heinous because it is intentional.

I once emailed a young writer about her story in the local which contained a dig at white people. Supposed to be funny. Wasn't. She wrote back saying she agreed with me and apologized, saying she fought against three editors who actually wrote the joke the night before, to the point of crying, but they inserted their "joke" anyway.

60 Iron Fist  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:30:32am

#33 Pope Insouciance IV,

No, they don't want us to win.

61 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:31:32am

God bless Bruno Stevens!

62 ibu guru  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:32:15am

When I wrote for Time, one story I filed from Singapore stands out in my mind. I spent over five hours on an overseas call with a copy desk guy fact-checking the story and arguing over last word. I (boots on the ground) won. That was not the story that got Time "banned in Singapore" - another one from another writer, who must not have been quite so cautious about accuracy, did.

Time has gone a long way downwhill in two decades. Staff cuts, then replacement of experienced reporters and editors with eager-beaver gung-ho wannabes from the brain-dead journo classes of Columbia (cheap labor) has led to brainwashed "reporters" who spout whatever cant they think the great unwashed should be indoctrinated in.

Gone are the days when reporters were urged to examine and set aside their biases to focus on facts. Today's reporters are taught that "bias is inescapable," and they knoweth not where - and how - their biases lie.

63 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:32:59am

A friend of mine who was at Qana when Blue Helmet Guy was running around with dead babies, has told me the same thing; that the photographers have no controll over the captions.

He also admitted that every dead body, regardless of wheather it was a Hezbollah fighter or not, was treated as a civilian death.

And that, in the south, Hezbollah basicly herded the photographers around, showing them what to photograph and making sure NO Hezbollah were photographed...especially if they were armed.

Almost all of the images that came out of Lebanon were either outright propaganda or were given misleading captions.

64 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:33:55am

This media manipulation is no surprsie. What IS surprising (and distressing) is how many Americans just sit back and take it. Millions of our own citizens are being indoctrinated before our eyes and we do almost nothing.

65 CrimsonFisted  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:34:09am

This is no surprise but nice to have a confirmation.

66 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:35:21am

The bright spot in all of this new attention being brought upon the MSM is it appears that there is riff developing between the photographers, who afterall are on the scene sometimes at great risk, and the copy writers sitting their offices. It may be that the photographers, after feeling the sting of criticism from doctored photos, have decided that they still do posess a degree of professional pride and still want to hold their head high. Granted there are photojournalists who will take the photos that fit their bias but I think even they get upset about any doctoring of the photos or captioning that misrepresents the photo.

67 Silhouette  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:35:23am

No where up to the level of journalistic evil as the thread topic, but here is a story along the same topic.

We have joked that the margin of victory for Republicans in 2000, 2002, or 2004 was played up by the media, and the story was a Nation Divided. Now the margin of victory is ignored as if all the elections were unanimous, and the story is a mandate for Dem rule.

Here is a follow up story on the Harold Ford loss, "What is next for Ford." (can't recall any 'what's next for X' stories for GOP losers, but maybe its just a bad memory).

Note how the 3% margin is nothing, tiny, a freak of luck that could just as easily gone the other way.

Ford, trying to become the first Southern black candidate elected to the Senate since the 1870s, lost by less than 3 percentage points, a margin so small that any number of factors could have contributed: negative TV ads, racial politics or Tennessee's conservative streak. After the vote, Ford said race was not a critical factor.

"Factors that could have contributed, but we're just guessing here, because we have no evidence either way. BUT we're gonna mention them anyway, because the non-story is the story to us. Come on, you just know those rednecks...."

I submit that it could have been evil leprechuans, but experts said leprechauns were not a critical factor.

Heck, if you're going to throw in unsubstantiated claims, mine is as good as theirs.

68 CrimsonFisted  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:36:25am

Lizards have hit the link hard.

69 Golem Akbar  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:36:49am

#59n Reluctant Democrat

It is the editors, and that makes it all the more heinous because it is intentional.

Journalistic bias is as old as journalism itself. The beauty of the blogosphere is that one can easily defeat the bigs, the MSM, by presenting the facts. Others will pick up on it. That may be just one reason why print media is in a decline. The bloggers are saying that the emperor wears no clothes, even though the editors will have us believe otherwise.

Good catch, charles. High five.

70 marjoriemoon  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:39:33am

Who are these faceless "Western editors"? Names! We want names!

Interestingly enough, they seem to be quite content to let their photogs take all the heat for their misdeeds. I feel terrible for folks like Bruno.

71 Geepers  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:42:10am
You’re not going to believe this one.

Oh I completely believe it.

In fact I never doubted it.

72 Sir Lurksalot  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:42:57am

But if they reported the story accurately it might have in some small way helped Bush.

73 GOP_Crusader  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:43:37am

#49

I now know why in a recent poll 51% of the respondents did not know who Nancy Pelosi was.

But I bet the 51% could tell us all about the latest celebrity tittle-tattle and what Paris Hilton had for dinner.

The press is clearly trying distract us from the real issues with junk news and lies while their li'l moonbat buddies take over the world.

74 Colin Nelson  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:46:56am

Proud to say Time has not crossed my threshold for 34 years.

75 NavyRetired  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:47:21am

#27 & #22

Don't pollute the landfills, use their postage and send it back, everytime I get a notice for subscriptions I use their envelope and send all the adds and any crap I can find back to them....

76 HeatherRadish  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:47:54am

#42 crashnburn

Heck, even media ads are biased against us - have you seen the Cisco ad with the American classroom's prototypical "white kid" engaged in a staring contest with an Asian kid in his classroom via teleconference? Of course, the decedant American loses the staring contest and then the Asian children gleefully run about their classroom celebrating their victory. Maybe Cisco is trying to line up some router sales to China?

Heh, I saw the ad and got pissed about my tax dollars being wasted on "school technology"--why do they need video conferencing to China in the first place, much less if that's how they're going to use it?

77 Beagle  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:48:51am

There's no end to MSM hubris no matter how many times they're caught manufacturing jihadi propaganda. Amazing.

78 daughter of patriots  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:51:15am

OT: hey, anyone hear from Hazan-Apostate-in-Pakistan after his morning post yesterday?

79 mission creep  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:53:07am

No problem - I'll just forward this link to CNN and Herr Blitzer will be all over it in a couple hours in seinem Situationzimmer. Next problem?

80 marjoriemoon  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:55:34am

I don't believe in the distraction-with-junk-news-theory. It's all news, just some of it is stupid news.

Many, many more Americans are concerned with the status of the global world since after 9/11. Before, we lived on our own little country, never having to bother much with the outside world. That was our shortcoming, but things have changed.

Remember that little button from the 60's? "Question Authority." It applies more today than ever before.

You simply CAN'T take anything at face value even if it means challenging your own beliefs. We have the internet to decipher it all, the good, the bad and the ugly.

"The Truth is Out There" and it's much scarier than UFOs! You just have to hunt for it.

81 TalkinKamel  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:55:38am

I've been suspicious of this photo ever since it came out.

Why? Look at the heroically posed "Hizbollah Gunman"---swanky dark glasses, tough-guy stance, waving around a big gun; he looks like he'getting ready for a publicity still in some sort of action movie. I'm suspicous of any, and all, photos where the "gunmen" are all standing around in highly photogenic "heroic" stances, tough sneers on their faces, posing with weapons---or as if they're getting ready for their close-up in the "Sexy Fighting Men of Jihad" calendar.

You rarely see American, or Israeli troops photographed this way by the MSM; and, of course, you never see heart-wrenching photos of murdered Israeli children, or the weeping relatives of Israeli victims. Have you seen much of anything at all (outside the Internet) about the two kidnapped Israeli soldiers, which began the recent fighting in Lebanon, or their families?

But always lots of pics of manly jihadis posing with weaponry and looking kewl; and weeping women in burkhas, looking all sad and distressed. Sometimes the propaganda is in the photos themselves, not just the captions.

82 pegcity  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:55:55am

Do people still read news magazines?

I thought those went out of style alone with the walkman and triple breasted suits

83 Da Coyote  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:56:27am

After the war really begins (following the inevitable major terrorist strikes) - and we finally wake up and obliterate a good portion of the mideast, I want first dibs at all MSM "journalists". They'll wish for Abu G. Believe me, I'm not the only one thinking this.

84 gymnast  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:57:03am

Bumper sticker suggestion.

Have You Fact Checked Your News Source Today?

85 bob the kafir  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:58:08am

#2 mbruce

Treason? Why?

Please explain?

86 Dustoff-507  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:59:50am

#84 Gymnast

Have You Fact Checked Your News Source Today?



I like it. (-:

87 NavyRetired  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:00:03am

gymnast-

Have You Fact Checked Your News Source Today?


Too good!

88 Chyron  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:00:55am

Lies told in the story about these pictures:

1. They say it was an Israeli plane shot down, instead of the misfired missile that it was
2. No mention of Hezballah missiles that were being attacked by Israel
3. Called a 'garbage dump' when it was really a Lebanese army base

So they make it seem not only like Israel was flying around for no reason, but that it was shot down, and that the Lebanese military had no part in it. The entire story they told was a lie.

Who is going to send this little tidbit to all the major outlets that didn't show the photos? I'm sure they would JUMP at the chance to discredit their competitors. I'm going to be emailing Glenn Beck and O'Reilly about it. I'm sure they'd LOVE it.

89 Mezzetino  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:01:51am

#84 gymnast

That's a keeper fer sure. Put it up on Cafe Press and I'll buy a few!

90 dead sea squirrel  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:02:42am
#78 daughter of patriots
OT: hey, anyone hear from Hazan-Apostate-in-Pakistan after his morning post yesterday?

Nothing. The "Cable Outage" thread where his post originally appeared is still active, for those of us keeping vigil.

91 gymnast  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:03:59am

#85, Bob the Dhimmi. Ornathology? Who?

You? Please explain.

92 akak  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:04:43am

you say taqqiya I say tequila

93 Mezzetino  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:04:44am

"#90 The "Cable Outage" thread where his post originally appeared is still active, for those of us keeping vigil."

Thanks for keeping the thread going, Charles.

94 paint-right  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:06:26am

When i read this I thought: Since the election, the parade has moved on and even turned the corner. I'm sure very few people care or want to know about faked photographs or captions or falsified documents any more unless they aupport the left's thesis.

The greater goal of defeating Bush and "getting us out of Iraq" trumps everything. So what if facts are fudged. The ends justify etc etc...

the public actually beleieves all lies about Bush, all lies about Islam...even if terrorists use nukes, some will still think: "we deserved it because of evil Bushitler."

Dementia has become a virus - infecting everything.

I picture the dems trying to appease the Barbarians right up to and through the gates.

A miracle is needed. And so I pray for one.

95 ChenZhen  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:07:31am

It looks like they changed the caption because it was confusing. I'm still not sure what the heck we're looking at in the photo. He (Bruno) even changed his caption after the fact:

“Kfar Chima, near Beirut, July 17, 2006 The Israeli Air Force bombed a group of Hezbollah chartered trucks parked on the back of large Lebanese Army barracks , at least one of these trucks contained a medium range ground to ground missile launcher, at least one missile was hit, misfiring high into the sky before falling down and starting a huge fire in the barracks’ parking lot.”

After reading that, you would think that there was no plane shot down. Somebody got it wrong, obviously.

I don't think that means there is some anti-Israeli bias going on. Is there some nuance I'm missing?

96 gymnast  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:11:59am

Bumper sticker suggestion.

MSM is a Socialist Transmitted Disease, Always wear protection. Never Bend Over While Exposed To News

97 akak  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:12:17am

talkin Kamel

Have you seen much of anything at all (outside the Internet) about the two kidnapped Israeli soldiers, which began the recent fighting in Lebanon, or their families?

Atlas poses a tough question in her blog about them being dead?

Hope their families/friends don't read, but all discussion of swaps should never have been on the table-rather IDF were still in Lebanon killing Hezshitzahs.

98 akak  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:15:07am
the public actually beleieves all lies about Bush, all lies about Islam...even if terrorists use nukes, some will still think: "we deserved it because of evil Bushitler."

which is why everyone should start their day with jihadwatch

99 gymnast  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:17:10am

Bumper sticker suggestion. (Inspired by
Paint-right.)


Warning! Dementia Is Caused By Touching the Ink On Newsprint.

100 Chyron  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:19:19am
#95 ChenZhen 11/14/2006 09:07AM PST

It looks like they changed the caption because it was confusing. I'm still not sure what the heck we're looking at in the photo. He (Bruno) even changed his caption after the fact:

“Kfar Chima, near Beirut, July 17, 2006 The Israeli Air Force bombed a group of Hezbollah chartered trucks parked on the back of large Lebanese Army barracks , at least one of these trucks contained a medium range ground to ground missile launcher, at least one missile was hit, misfiring high into the sky before falling down and starting a huge fire in the barracks’ parking lot.”

After reading that, you would think that there was no plane shot down. Somebody got it wrong, obviously.

I don't think that means there is some anti-Israeli bias going on. Is there some nuance I'm missing?

He said, essentially: "An Israeli plane was allegedly shot down while attacking Hizballah missiles trucks."

They said, essentially: "An Israeli plane was shot down attacking Hizballah trucks."

They neglected to point out that there was no proof of their statement, and also left out that little mention that the Hizzies are re-arming with missiles. It's more of the mindset that Hizzie is a poor disenfranchised group being attacked for no reason by Israel.

In the grand scope of things, it's just more of the same from the anti-Israel MSM. Context is very important here.

101 gymnast  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:24:07am

This nations printing presses were, at one time, the greatest weapon in the "Arsenal of Democracy". Present day "Journalists" are doing their best to turn these same presses into an implement of national suicide.

102 troonbop  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:25:39am

"These distortions were perpetrated by Western editors"

Hey, editors, I know you read blogs. How does it feel to see your credibility disappearing along with your readership? And i used to work in that "business" for about ten years. No more, thank god.

103 gymnast  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:27:49am

#95, Chen Zhen.
"Is there something I am missing?"

Reading comprehension skills?

104 brent  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:29:00am

Question Authority? How about Question your news provider.

Question the money behind the news that you see. Question the political leaning.

Hating the Repubs is not questioning anything, it's falling for a marketing campaign. If you really want to question something, ask yourself what the hell are these people selling?

105 ChenZhen  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:38:03am

#100 Chyron 11/14/2006 09:19AM PST

They neglected to point out that there was no proof of their statement, and also left out that little mention that the Hizzies are re-arming with missiles. It's more of the mindset that Hizzie is a poor disenfranchised group being attacked for no reason by Israel.

In the grand scope of things, it's just more of the same from the anti-Israel MSM. Context is very important here.



It's still a stretch to call this particular caption anti-Israel. Sure, they left out the missles in the trucks, but at the same time they're giving them credit for shooting an F-16 down. Would Hizzies have the means to shoot down an Israeli jet if they were poor and disenfranchised?

106 Promethea  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:39:44am

#49 Just a Grunt . . .

Do we even know when the propaganda started? Is there no longer any truth out there to be found?

I suspect that most of what we

think

we know about the recent past are actually lies.

I, for one, view my introduction to the blogosphere around January 2003 like that of the character of Neo in The Matrix, who discovered one day that his view of reality was entirely false.

(Too bad Matrix 2 and Matrix 3 were such terrible movies--the first one was quite good as a metaphor for our lives before LGF, Zombietime, and other brave defenders of civilization.)

107 barrypopik  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:47:27am

"TIME is on my side..."

No, it's not!

108 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 7:50:13am
I thought those went out of style alone with the walkman and triple breasted suits

I give up. What's a TRIPLE breasted suit?
I "Asked" that and nothing relevant came up.

Is that a double-breasted suit AND a vest?

109 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:02:29am
And even more damning is the photo they chose not to publish, showing a medium range ground-to-ground missile launcher hidden in a civilian truck—on a Lebanese Army base.

Yep, and although Stevens remarks about collusion, I think it's damning just to indicate that an army is camoflaging missle launchers as civilian trucks.

But then, I'm old-fashioned.

110 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:03:30am

#84

Have You Fact Checked Your News Source Today?

Rotating title?

111 WarBicycle  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:04:43am

It's time we organize a boycott of the media.

112 kay1212  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:05:44am

Once when I wasn't home, my teenagers retrieved the mail and filled out a subscription form for Time magazine. Thereafter I received Time for the subscriber "Jack Mehoff". I cancelled. In hindsight, my sons might have entered the perfect phrase on the form.

113 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:15:14am

Unfortunately, the photographers' only way of dealing w/editors' misleading captions is to blog about it.

Your average editor is someone who used to be a reporter, not a photographer.

114 ladycatnip  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:18:16am

Kudos to Stevens. I haven't bought a newspaper, news magazine or watched msm news for years. Hopefully more and more people will follow suit. The Los Angeles Times had to close one of their huge facilities nearby, so that says something is afoot.

We're sick of being lied to.

115 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:19:53am

Lady Catnip

Right now the holding company for LA Times & Chicago Tribune is trying to sell off some of its holdings.

116 Golem Akbar  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:32:05am

#114 ladycatnip

The Los Angeles Times had to close one of their huge facilities nearby, so that says something is afoot.

I live near the former Northridge Times plant. It's going to be a huge toy manufacturing plant. A very marked improvement, I believe.

117 Cognito  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:33:28am

Charles, I don't often disagree with your positions on the media -- you're right that it's in a disgraceful state.

But "The Media Are the Enemy" is too simple, and is just wrong. It's not a monolithic thing. You, for instance, are part of the media now.

It's plain to see from this post that Bruno Stevens is the one who brought this to light -- the photographer himself, at the heart of "the media."

So the media aren't the enemy. Twisters of truth are the enemy, within and without the media. There are good people within and without, as well.

118 simpleman  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:35:34am

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

119 mrsoc  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:35:55am

#8 trip 11/14/2006 08:03AM PST
"The time will come, and will be soon, that anything - anything - that the MSM will say or do, will not be believed!"

Done.

120 Golem Akbar  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:44:45am

#117 Cognito

So the media aren't the enemy. Twisters of truth are the enemy, within and without the media. There are good people within and without, as well.

Okay, that having been said, there are also many good Muslims in the world. The Islamofascists are the enemy, not the good Muslims of the world.

However: where are the voices of the good Muslims? Why haven't they loudly protested that the Islamofascists have taken away their good name? The same is true in the media. There are few in the MSM who want to stop the liars and anti-American-anti/democracy types who blame the US or Israel first.

The media are the enemy is closer to the truth than not.

121 TalkinKamel  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:45:33am

#97 akak

I'll take a look at Atlas--I still hope they're alive, but I'm beginning to doubt.

122 Dan Patterson  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:47:14am

#117
A fine point but one that is important: LGF and similar sites are news media sources to a minority of citizens, and an entertainment/editorial site for many others. I have an intuition that many more approach the internet as entertainment than news. You are correct that the photographer who brought the issue to light is in the mouth of the beast but his action is all to unusual.

For a change to occur there probably has to be a move toward the internet (and some talk radio) as an alternate news source. Someone at LGF might think of a campaign to push that point forward, as was done with Drudge, etc.

Dan Patterson
Arrogant Infidel

123 infidel4life  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:47:30am
#55 Buckeye Abroad 11/14/2006 08:27AM PST

Even the North Vietmanese admitted that the western media "won" Vietnam for them, so why should this be any different.


And don't underestimate the influence of middle-east petro-dollars on the western media today. Our 'friends' the Saudis have learned the lessons of Vietnam well.

124 Cognito  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:57:09am

120 Golem,


The media are the enemy is closer to the truth than not.

I see your point, but I'd say "closer to the truth than not" isn't much of a standard.

122 Dan,


LGF and similar sites are news media sources to a minority of citizens, and an entertainment/editorial site for many others.

This is what I call the Jon Stewart defense. He nips and snarls at the world's policy makers, and then when anyone turns the analysis on him, he holds out hands and says, "Hey, it's just comedy!"

125 ladycatnip  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:58:48am

Just went to Drudge and Marie Clair magazine fauxtoshopped this image of Elizabeth Vargas breastfeeding her baby at the anchor desk.

Apparently this fake fauxto business in quite the norm for the msm. After all, "They were only joking..."

126 Ben B  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 9:07:15am

#81 TalkinKamel

But always lots of pics of manly jihadis posing with weaponry and looking kewl; and weeping women in burkhas, looking all sad and distressed.

How true. And the re-cycled child corpses.

127 mattm  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 9:23:48am

The MSM is not Bias.

/moonbat off

128 Bourgeois Reactionary  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 9:24:06am

#67 Silhouette - re: Corker thumps Ford; it could've also been that Tennesseans know what Corker did for Chattanooga as Mayor, versus what the Ford family has done for Memphis.

/naah, it's the rednecks

129 WrathofG-d  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 9:33:41am

On Point:

Just today: Headline: "Hamas hints at Compromise on Israel"
BODY:

"GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Hamas said Tuesday it would not recognize Israel even after a new national unity government takes power, but suggested that the emerging coalition would be free to stake out a more moderate position.

Hamas apparently hopes this ambiguity will allow it to preserve its anti-Israel ideology but open the door to an easing of crippling international sanctions, imposed to pressure the current, Hamas-led government to moderate. Despite the sanctions, Hamas has repeatedly rejected international demands to recognize Israel, renounce violence and respect past peace accords.

& there was this one from yesterday where HAMAS' goals are redefined as: "a bid to topple the Israeli Goverment"

Lest I remind you of what the HAMAS charter says...and feel free to read the 1st article here again.

130 Golem Akbar  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 9:49:51am

#124 Cognito

This is what I call the Jon Stewart defense. He nips and snarls at the world's policy makers, and then when anyone turns the analysis on him, he holds out hands and says, "Hey, it's just comedy!"

Yes, you're totally right. But [butt monkey], this is not comedy. The MSM are not the total picture. LGF and others like it do a valuable service in keeping all the media honest. The MSM are [whores] in it for circulation, and to stay in business. They are not altruistic and really don't care who wins or loses in this current battle. When a photographer or journalist lets us know that we are not getting the whole truth from some source, we need to let everyone know. The blogs do that job, and the others (Fox, talk radio) can pick up on that.

Charles and company (they call themselves the Pajama Media) did an excellent job on Dan Rather's newsreporting-supposed expose of the president's military record.

131 Claire  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 9:58:14am

Good on Bruno for clearing this up. But I see the other journalists are quick to say "hey, we don't have any control over the captions, that's the way it always is, DON'T BLAME US!"

Why are they not as furious as we are that their pictures are being mis-represented, and figure out a way to put a stop to it?

Why are you guys letting your photos be misrepresented?

132 slaphappy  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 9:59:30am

Not sure if this has been posted or not, but, for those of ya that are asking the question or stating we need to get this info out to honest media outlets via radio/paper/cable. A lot of readers and bloggers/commenter's at hotair read LGF. Michele Malkin started that blog and shes kinda a regular on fox as a contributer with O´reilly(sp?). It´s one of their point topics right now..It could be brought up on Fox if it makes a big enoough stink on hotair... cheers..

As you were please.

133 FabioC.  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 10:08:45am

Thi picture had already been discussed in this or some other blog, and it simply shows a garbage dump on fire (what lit the fire, is unknown to me at the moment).

So Stevens' caption, saying that here is no proof a jet was shot down, is accurate.

TIME has intentionally distorted facts. The statement in itself is not strictly anti-Israel, but it makes Hizballah appear stronger (so strong to down an IAF fighter) and gives a more "equivalent" view, not mentioning that those Hizballah trucks were legitimate targets.

134 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 10:11:41am

#15 Elric 66
#24 Ben B

Whats to gain by the media by trying to destroy the culture in which they live in?

The short answer is that they do not live in the same culture as the rest of us and they are institutionally conditioned to ignore long-term consequences.
Please read Thomas Franks landmark cultural history, The Conquest of Cool. This documents the development of the institutional culture of the mass media during the 1960s, and follows that internal culture up to the late 90s when the book was written. Frank contends that this characteristic internal culture was based on the requirements of the advertising industry and that it has remained deeply entrenched ever since.
As I (not Frank himself) put it, the world is a movie to these people and the terrorists have the James Dean role.

135 joan  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 10:18:09am

36 tfc "The Republicans will always be the enemy..."

pre-frikken-cisely.

they'd rather a U.S. villified and weak, than a U.S. strong and better secured by means of Republican actions.

yes, they are that small

136 Cognito  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 10:20:05am

130 Golem,

Yes, you're totally right. But [butt monkey], this is not comedy. The MSM are not the total picture. LGF and others like it do a valuable service in keeping all the media honest.


Right. You're making my point. Except I didn't include "butt monkey," whatever that is...

137 crateramos  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 10:49:32am

It's not just political bias. Many moons ago, I worked for a large daily newspaper in the southwestern US (I'm not saying how many; suffice it to say I'm old). On slow news nights, it was customary for junior editors to pull articles from the wire services to fill space. One such piece was pulled from the AP service one night, a well-reasoned assertion that, due to unfavorable interest and exchange rates, it wasn't the best time to purchase a new automobile.

The next morning, representatives from every car dealership in the city were at the general manager's office door, threatening to pull their advertising. The following Sunday, an entire special section, probably twenty full pages, was published containing free full-page ads for the aforementioned car hucksters. And the bold, two-inch headline emblazoned on the front page of that section? "THERE'S NEVER BEEN A BETTER TIME TO BUY A NEW CAR!"

Thus my illusions about journalist integrity in the news media were shattered at an early age. Then, as now, for many publishers news content is just filler to go around the ads.

138 bill-tb  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 10:51:43am

You know this is no longer to be overlooked, it is not slanting the news, the media is outright lying about the news, staging, cropping, producing the news to put Israel in the worst possible light.

Same thing they did with Bush.

They are just outright lying.

I sure hope there isn't one lizard left that subscribes to anything sold by these nutjobs running the media.

139 THX-42  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 11:17:20am

A very interesting dynamic is taking place now. The MSM are openly lying, and they don't seem to care one bit who knows about it. Reason? They have calculated that the majority of the country (as evidenced by the recent elections) has been suckered by their propaganda and is now on their side.

Therefore, they can continue putting out propaganda 24x7 because they know that their side wants it, supports it, and will do absolutely nothing to stop it.

This will not be stopped by simple boycotts and letters to the editor. It's probably going to take a civil war. And it's coming, most likely when the first nukes hit.

140 Curt  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 11:59:49am

#49 just_a_grunt:

Last December, I went to a talk that was supposed to be about being with Patton in Germany by two former Army officers. The lecturer went somewhat differently, as one of the officer ended up being the Atlanta Journal's Editor and he told a story of how "they" (newspaper editors) with the WWII experience behind them decided to "change things."

My blog post about that evening is here.

This may be the root of what we see today: Media that doesn't report, it sides and throws the full resources available to who they thing should win.

141 samhein  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 12:04:02pm

So, I'm assuming this photographer will now be blacklisted for revealing the dirty little secrets of the MSM......

142 American Jewess in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 12:20:13pm

Bruno, if you're reading this, G-d bless you for your professional integrity! We need all the heroes we can get. I hope this won't cost you your career.

143 SmartAss  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 12:41:33pm

MSM - corrupted and intimidated at the same time... What is amazing is how cheap they sell out and how cowardly they are...

144 Edward  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 1:13:57pm

Nothing new here. I think back ...

... to Stanley Baldwin's speech between the wars (using a line suggested to him by his cousin Rudyard Kipling, who had been a journalist himself, and knew all about it): "The goal of the press is power without responsibility - the prerogative of the harlot through the ages."

... to the campaign waged by Leo Amery of the "Times" against General Redvers Buller, during the Boer War.

... to Lord Kitchener's response to a pack of journalists who besieged his tent during the Sudan campaign, pressing him for interviews: "Out of my way, you drunken scum!"

The press have been like this always. All that's changed today is that, thanks to blogs like LGF, it's become harder for them to get away with it.

145 idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 1:47:56pm

Could honest photographers create their own LLC and then when they caption something it could be protected by a copyright such that if editors wanted to change it they would have to get written permission from the source?
Thats assuming that there are that many honest ones left.

146 nadineken  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 2:14:06pm

September 5th, Bruno Stevens held a quite different discours on desinformation and fauxtographies:
[Link: www.liberation.fr...]

Two other articles in French worth reading
[Link: courrierdeslecteurs.wordpress.com...]
(not published!)
and a published one
[Link: courrierdeslecteurs.wordpress.com...]

147 guy_philly  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 2:16:55pm

Stevens' account and pictures have to be organized better to decribe more clearly what has taken place. I have not been drinking tonight, but I still find it hard to follow exactly what happened, when it happened, etc. Please, somebody, clean this up and get it to a news outlet that will run with it. Surely, someone would want to have this story credited to them!

148 Lynn B.  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 2:44:25pm

FabioC #133 --

Thi picture had already been discussed in this or some other blog, and it simply shows a garbage dump on fire (what lit the fire, is unknown to me at the moment).

Uh, no .... Did you read Bruno's account?

Now, once and for all, this place is NOT a garbage dump. It is the back entry and parking lot of large Lebanese Army barracks in Kfar Chima, in the eastern outskirts of Beirut.

But somehow the story behind Bruno's post is getting lost in this thread. Bruno posted something at Lightstalkers in which he referred to the controversy over his photo as "the Lebanon pictures ‘question’, which was merely ultra-zionist blogs raving." Guilad Kahn, who I believe is an Israeli photographer, took issue with that remark and then things heated up. It's all on this thread, and it gets pretty intense.

149 antipilgerite  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 3:36:53pm

Zionist = not wanting the Jews to be completely wiped out
Ultra-Zionist = not wanting the Israeli Jews to be pushed into the sea
Zionazi = believing that Jews have the right to defend themselves under any circumstances
Zionazi Freeper Repukelican Lizardoid Scum = believing that, possibly, Israeli culture is superior to that of a bunch of perpetually outraged arabs whose greatest contributions to the world have been the suicide vest and the car swarm

/moonbat definition mode off

150 Lynn B.  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:13:57pm

More in that lightstalkers thread from our good friend Bruno

Guilad, sorry again, you haven’t seen the ambulances, in Tyre, I have. There were traces of blood and shit and smell of explosives all over, there is NO WAY this damage could have been done otherwise than by a penetrating explosive device going through the roofs, all windows and metal pushed outside. (i have described the scene in more detail to Eyal in another thread). I have loads of pictures of the TWO ambulances showing this. Now, I wasn’t there when the incident happened, that is true, but please, someone tells me how to inflict damage like that without an airplane, a drone or a helicopter.

Hezbollah Air Force? Khomeini’s ghost angel with rockets? The Nasrallah boys on a (yellow of course) paraglider shooting Lebanese Red Cross ambulances (not Red Crescent, by the way) during an Israeli Air Force bombing raid: yeah, right.

My Friend, this is a serious case of “Bloggywood”.

From Bruno, who said in an earlier comment that he was on his way to Lebanon to document the use of cluster bombs against civilian targets.

See also Nadineken #146, above.

151 afdad  Tue, Nov 14, 2006 6:34:10pm

#117 Cog

Old media, to me, are nothing more than silhouettes. It makes no difference what excuses they use, as I hold that one is known by the company they keep. Since it is well known by anyone with an IQ larger than a peanut that there is a huge left anti-American/Israel bias present in the profession, and is apparently accepted by these supposed unbiased honest members who without any noticeable protest, accept these propagandists members in their industry, ALL will continue to have their integrity to be in question. For that, they deserve their images remaining blank.

As far as I'm concerned, their acceptance makes them just as complicit as the propagandists. Those wishing to regain their features again had better do something, and fast as the time approaches when nothing they say, or do will matter. Once started, the 'black flag' will be raised with the treatment of all being equal for the guilty as well as the collaborators.

152 FabioC.  Wed, Nov 15, 2006 12:10:01am

Lynn B., so I stand corrected.

But it seems that this Lebanes army base keeps a very untidy and cluttered back entry.

153 Lynn B.  Wed, Nov 15, 2006 11:47:08am

FabioC. -- Yes indeed. Assuming Bruno Stevens is correct, it sure does.

154 penitentman[deleted]  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 5:28:12pm
155 Thanos  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:25:29pm

#154 Pman

Your arguments are riddled with factual holes, the most massive being that you are deluded if you think the MSM is overly concerned with finances. The proxy fights over control of the NYT as it stock slides ever southward should be enough to convince you. You might also look at the major publishing companies fourth quarter earnings reports in years with election cycles. Almost all of them take a bath in red ink from remaindered Bush-bashing books that went out with large advances.
We don't think it's a conspiracy, anymore than the jocks and cheerleaders in high school were... it's just a lot of like-minded folks who tend to see things their way. For an idea of how it works, try Fear and Loathing in The Media.


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