First?

Keith Olbermann is a puss filled nodule!

Let's go skinny dipping.

That's impugning pus.

Just makes me want to pick up a goat and a chicken and throw them in. How 'bout you?

OK, let's go skinny dipping.

The sea, the promise of discovery. Something that the Democratic Party leadership thinks it can walk upon, or drown in.

2 desertsage

Don't hold back. Tell us your true feelings on the matter.

I figure posting a comment on LGF gets about the same audience as Olbyu does anyway, so why sweat what the neophyte says?

Ca we throw Keith Olbermann in instead?

No. You have to offer Allah something of value.

Tankdemon- I'm lobbying for 'ole Keith to be Idiotarian Of The Year.

Charles, if youu had only been there two minutes sooner, you could have gotten a righteous photo of Nessie!

Ripples flow... and spybots flood.

Ahh yes.

Skinny dipping is the best.

And I don't even infere any sexual reference.

# 2 DesertSage 11/15/2006 08:03PM PST

Keith Olbermann is a puss filled nodule!

So what else is new?

I know it's a French design but I want a Mirage III!

Yes, the Swiss Air Force is cool.

Goodnight folks.

2 days offline due to hardware problems, and I've missed LGF much more than LGF missed me!

But the news, the honesty and the scope here are IMPORTANT to me!

Karridine

11 DesertSage,

Do you ever get the feeling that Keithie has patterned his entire life after the Monty Python sketch in which John Cleese is being interviewed by a news reporter on the fine points of being the village idiot? At one point he calls it a dying art.

Actually Charles, from a Schillingerian musical rhythm perspective, what you are seeing are the resultants of periodic interference. Very complex in this example, but if you throw two stones into a clam pond at the same time a couple of feet apart, you'll see everything from a basic 4/4 rock and roll backbeat to 15/8 and even higher order odd time signatures where the respective wavefronts intersect. Examples this complex are "noise" in the speciffic sense.

As you were.

[Link: www.freeke.org...]

I hope there's no Purple Tracer.

[Link: www.deviantart.com...]

You'll have lots of fun with this one!

# 18 tankdemon

Do you ever get the feeling that Keithie has patterned his entire life after the Monty Python sketch in which John Cleese is being interviewed by a news reporter on the fine points of being the village idiot? At one point he calls it a dying art.

Not really.

I've alway thought that the pythonic village idiots were far smarter that Comrade Olbermann.

The two faces of Sweetness. Still think it's not him?

wow supertanker submarines

Hello all, just checking in. Been depressed most of the last week, but finally feel better. The election really threw me. I didn't know the American people were so stupid. O.K. thats too harsh...So mis-informed.Anyway I'm beginning to enjoy this circus. The dhimmis seem so excited,but their true colours are starting to show. Murtha?Even the MSM is dragging up stuff on him. I feel o.k. as long as Bush doesn't abandon Iraq, and our brave soldiers. I don't think he will. He seems to be sitting back and letting the Dhimmis do themselves in. We shall see.

Water just one of the things that are plentiful in the US and Short in the ME. Some of the rest of the list Innovation, Freedom, Democracy etc..

THE OTHER LES.

Oh that old P.O.S. ;)

I'd like one of these please

I propose naming the conservative wing of the Republican Party, the Three R's -

The Reagan Republican Resistance

to differentiate Reagan Republicans from the "moderates" who are not Republicans at all - from those who corrupted Reagan's legacy with all the pork, who were frightened of the judicial confirmation "nuclear option", whoi champion gay marriage "rights", abortion, who have tolerated Kim Jong Il's acquisition of the bomb, Iran's pursuit of nukes,

Oh, President Reagan, how can we apologize enough for letting things get so nuts?

tankdemon

I've only seen Keith Odor-man a few times, and that was just by flipping through the channels from Fox to the History Channel.

I stopped to see what he was saying, but I could only stomach about 2-3 minutes before I couldn't take it anymore. I think he thinks that he's a lot smarter than he really is.

PIMF= CALM not CLAM! LOL!

Cannonball!

I think I see a tsunami!

Looks like I cleared out the pool with that one. Sorry.

26 nigella

When you start woofing on the "American People Are So Stupid," it just reminds us of the last two years of Daily Kos Krybabies, bitching about the last presidential election. Or, the last two. Both stolen, but still, the Amerikan People must be damn schtupid, to let it come down to such a few votes. A few million Negroes denied their Civil Right to vote, I mean.

You see why we don't need to hear about "stupid Americans?" Besides, compared to the way people are voting in other "Dhimmicratic" countries these days, American voters are all bearing doctorates in Poli Sci, and Modern History.

Can I get this photo in large format? I want to use it as my desktop background.

Gary, say what? Is that you Taxfreekiller? Don't think I necessarily deserved that. I sound like Kos kids in my whinning? Lighten up!

#28 wrathofG-d
Watched the video. Those pilots have some giant balls to put that thing into a stall like that.

Even if he did his comedy show wearing a clown suit and makeup, Keith Olberman does not have what it takes to be Idiotarian of the year. He could be a player in the 2nd Rate Media Snot Nosed Shitbird of the Year Awards. In any case, Keith has proved himself to be a real dumb Demo-flocker.

I heard via the Rush Limbaugh show that DNCNN was actually broacasting a program that objectively looked at militant-totally f**d-up Isalm.

Not that one needs an excuse , but
Chocolate addiction leads to sweet discovery

Ladies and Gentleman...our new warfighting doctrine!

OT: Pakistan Moves Toward Altering Rape Law

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

The current law:
Under the Hudood ordinance, rape is included in matters covered under Islamic law, like marriage and divorce. A woman who reports that she has been raped must produce four male witnesses to prove it. If she fails to do so, she can be prosecuted for adultery.

...

The amendment also introduces the concept of statutory rape, outlawing sex with girls under 16. The Islamic code had merely banned sex with girls before puberty

4 male witnesses? The "concept" of statutory rape? These people make me sick. And we have the audacity to call them civilized.

Evening fellow lizaroids. The picture looks like a nice place to dump our new Democratic Overlords. Anyone for a tea party?

Courtesy of Sweetness & Light:

Here is another tidbit of information that has also been conveniently overlooked by our one party media.

From Wikipedia’s glowing entry on our hero:

Harry Reid

Harry Mason Reid (born December 2, 1939) is the senior United States Senator from Nevada and a member of the Democratic Party, for which he presently serves as Senate Minority Leader. He will become the first Mormon Senate Majority Leader in 2007, after the Democrats won control of the United States Senate in the 2006 Congressional Elections.

Early life, education, and career

Reid is a converted member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He is a native of the small mining town of Searchlight, Nevada, where his nickname since childhood was “Pinky.”…

"Pinky" Reid. How absolutely fitting. And yet how funny that this never came up before.

Maybe his fellow inmates will call him "Pinky" in the big house. And I don’t mean the Senate.

And what’s all this about Reid being a Mormon?

We have never heard the end of Mitt Romney being a Mormon, but this is the very first time ever I’ve seen any mention that "Pinky" is LDS as well.

Why is that?

(That’s a rhetorical question, of course.)

LOL...make sure all the prisoners know about this ahead of time.

what about "pinko" as in commie?

Pinky, Are you pondering what I am pondering ?

41 solomonpanting 11/15/2006 08:39PM PST
Not that one needs an excuse , but
Chocolate addiction leads to sweet discovery

Cool. I just happen to have some chocolate - perhaps I should eat some now. Maybe Hopkins will do another study here in Baltimore - I'll volunteer. :)

Nice.

#39 gymnast

Whacked out Lefties love him. They think he's a God.
That and this video spewing ten minutes of insane Leftist propaganda are good enough for me to support him for Idiotarian Of The Year.

Plus, he called Chris Wallace a monkey posing as a newscaster!

The number of things that Mr. Welch cannot do has increased from 800 to 825:

803. If my personal carried firepower exceeds that of the Battleship Texas, there's a problem.

808. Covering fire does not include nuclear weapons.

813. Taking the orc warlord's skull as a trophy is acceptable. Not as a hand puppet.

816. The adventure wrap up is the epilogue. Not Miller Time.

822. If everybody in the room is in black leather, we're in the thieves' guild. Not a fetish club.

Um, okay...

We now return you to your regularly scheduled reality.
_

You what drives me crazy? Mel Martinez as GOP chief. Mr. Open Borders, Spanish as the 'next' language quisling. I think I will go Independent. It is clear that Bush is a whore for big business.

51 The Other Les

OK, now THAT is funny.

# 53 Kragar (Proud to be kafir)

51 The Other Les

OK, now THAT is funny.

Of course in Donkspeak the change from 800 to 825 is a decrease.

I want four of those, for a world tour.

BIG
STICKS,
R

Hey all, Check out the Black Friday (day after Thanksgiving) sales at all the major stores. COMPUSA has a 23" LCD Flat panel TV only available from 5pm-9pm Thanksgiving day for $99! Click on the following link- [Link: bfads.net...] and on the left side of the page, select the store to see their sales.

#7

The sea, the promise of discovery. Something that the Democratic Party leadership thinks it can walk upon, or drown in.

I'm thinking Drown in. Now htaht the side of the Dems that wasn't in the elections shows up.

I should have added w/ cellphone activation and a RAZR phone...

#57 Bob, are you now or have you ever been a bot?

AT
LONG
LAST,
R

#50 Desert Sage

Geez, just when I thought it was safe to jump back in, there you are, lurking, waiting to sneak up behind me when I post. So I won't post.

You need not mention my election predictions

This just arrived moments ago at the Mohammed Image Archive mail room. More wisdom from the Religion of Peace!

From: all my niggaz

i just want to ask. why you living? i sure that you are such a useless human want people to pay him attention you got no life do you understand YOU GOT NO LIFE!

And those who send illiterate emails to people they don't know do have a life?

#56 Render

Iowa class kicks ass!

#62 zombie

you got ny life do you understand YOU GOT NY LIFE!

I hate pushy insurance salesmen.

#56

Iowa Class Battleships. We need to drag Ahmadingleberry - all 4'11" of him - onto the deck of one of those bastards and force him to sign an unconditional surrender document, after which we need some posterity picks of him blowing General Abizaid.

Give it a four star effort, Ahmed!

Just a quick hit and run, but I had some fun tonight with a WsPo Librul scribbler. The link is here. You'd need to read bottom-up to get the posts in sequence, but if you like, mine are near the top. Got to crawl off to bed, as its almost 1:00AM here in DCtown.

Have a good thread, and agood night!

# 56 Render

[Link: www.youtube.c...]

I want four of those, for a world tour.

BIG
STICKS,
R

How could you replace the Iowa Class battleship?

Something with not less than 90,000 tons full load displacement. Nuclear propulsion at not less than 40 knots full speed. Not less than twelve 16-inch main guns. Not less than six automatic 155-mm gun mounts. AEGIS airdefense system and two to four vertical launch system cells with Standard (AAM), Harpoon (ASM), and Tomohawk (Land Attack) missiles. hangar and landing pads for not less than 2 helecopters and facilities for launch and recovery of drones.

No way that any Congress is going to pay for it.

Dammit. I forgot the Phalanx antimissile systems!

v1.01...

Link is actually HERE.

Thanks, WaPo...

#52 pat 11/15/2006 09:17PM PST

You what drives me crazy? Mel Martinez as GOP chief. Mr. Open Borders, Spanish as the 'next' language quisling. I think I will go Independent. It is clear that Bush is a whore for big business.

Talk about learning the wrong lessons. Here in AZ, almost every initiative on the ballot that tightened border and/or immigrant restrictions passed by a 70 to 30 margin. All of the dems who won did so by running to the right of the republicans on the border issue. From what I can tell, the same is true in all other states as well. Yet, President Bush's solution is to appoint a GOP chair who is more open border? So the idea here is to assure that the republicans stay out of power for the next 40 years? After I get less exercised and have a bit more time tomorrow night, I am going to compose my e-mail to the White House expressing my opinion. Perhaps if there is enough of a ground swell, this can be reversed and we can get someone who will take the real lessons from last week and work to fix the problems. This nomination reminds me of the Harriet Meyers (sp?) nomination.

It's great that the dems are imploding already, but it isn't going to help any if the republican solution is to set themselves up to run to the left of the moonbats. Some of this is starting to look like some of the elite republicans working to keep their power over the coming years, regardless of what is good for the party. That's not a good thing.

#62 zombie

You don't speak hoodlum? Hell, he was paying you a compliment.

OT:

Fun With Dick and Jane is a hilarious movie. OK, it starts off slow, but the middle parts make me piss my pants. The drag Sonny and Cher routine is wicked pisser (OK. Yeah, I went to college in Boston).

#62 Zombie

Professor,

Oh master of hairstyles AND the secret snapshot,
(your enemies would call it the cheap shot, but hey they're doin it in public)

IF your enemies ever get their wish and ignite a 10 kilotoner simultaneously in Port of Oakland along with 9 other ports plus london berlin the Hague Paris and Barcelona and oh yes the Vatican

you be sure to make a beeLine ova t'chere to RANCHO COSTA PLENTY, on the Zombie underground railroad ... welcome Mats ALWAYS out for you, and we cook up some very nice UN-Islamic southun' fried Pork-Chops for chow, Ummm, ummm.

After the VERY ANGRY NEIGHBORS open up the gun safes and train all the neighborhood teenagers for a coupla days, and the next door neighbors very jumbo Dobermans, Psycho & Trixie, have fasted for a coupla days,

... then you be sure to post your vacant address on the internet, won't you Perfess'r ?

We'd just love to go over and stand guard,

... and Bring Psycho & Trixie and all their nearly unhinged four legged neighborhood friends.

Zombie

Maybe this will help.

Zombie,

E-mail him/her/other back:

"Why for you here come? You a looser. You two ugly for werds."

Since this is a gradient thread, here's a pic that makes the grade. A bird's eye view of Brookings, Oregon, where I hung out for five years in the late 1980's. That's the Chetco River on the right.

Why is Keith Olbermann still allowed any airtime?

He's got my vote for Idiotarian Of The Year.

MoleOnABull

I dunno, Jimmy the Dhimmi Carter has got a strong showing in that regard

He's another one that seems to never go away as well.

#78 Jewels

I dunno, Jimmy the Dhimmi Carter has got a strong showing in that regard

Jimmy the Dhimmi won the first Fiskie.

#73 Havoc
IF your enemies ever get their wish and ignite a 10 kilotoner simultaneously in Port of Oakland along with 9 other ports plus london berlin the Hague Paris and Barcelona and oh yes the Vatican

Well, if that happens, I may choose to skedaddle slightly further away from the epicenter than lovely Rancho Costa Plenty. I mean, you do have the Hills to protect you, but Lamorinda is just a few miles from the Port of Oakland epicenter, as the radioactive crow flies. I keep the iodine handy in case of fallout.

If a nuke hits Oakland (and elsewhere), it'll be WWIV, and I know of a nice abandoned mine in 49er foothill country that's the final stop on the zombie Underground Railroad, for use in case of extreme emergencies. I may choose to make a beeline straight for the end of the tracks if the ROPers start nukin'.

But, to be frank, I find that highly unlikely. If they are to nuke, it will be Tel Aviv first.

Smoke em while you can,the Left coast starts the trnd to ban ALL smoking

[Link: www.smdailyjournal.com...]

Tasty Beverage

This is true...but few can match the master...cept maybe John 'Lurch' Kerry

Water, Water everywhere, not a drop to drink. Unless you're a fish, with eight;).
Octopus's Garden
I'd like to be under the sea
In an octopus's garden in the shade
He'd let us in, knows where we've been
In his octopus's garden in the shade
I'd ask my friends to come and see
In an octopus's garden with me
I'd like to be under the sea
In an octopus's garden in the shade

We would be warm below the storm
In our little hideaway beneath the waves
Resting our head on the sea bed
In an octopus's garden near a cave
We would sing and dance around
because we know we can't be found
I'd like to be under the sea
In an octopus's garden in the shade

We would shout and swim about
The coral that lies beneath the waves
Oh what joy for every girl and boy
Knowing they're happy and they're safe
We would be so happy you and me
No one there to tell us what to do
I'd like to be under the sea
In an octopus's garden with you
in an octopus's garden with you
in an octopus's garden with you

Yup, zombie.the Black Diamond Mines in Antioch ( home of the Holy Hand Grenade) looks like a winner to me too.

#67 The Other Les 11/15/2006 09:49PM PST

[Snip...]

How could you replace the Iowa Class battleship?

With the new and improved,
USS Ohio (SSGN 726)

#83 Jewels

few can match the master

Jimmy needs to quit resisting and go into the light already. Allah is calling him to Jahannam. Please, friends of Jimmah, let go of the rope.

#28 wrathofG-d

Wrath!

That was N-A-S-T-Y!

Wow...what excellent footage.

Thanks for that.

...it made my night.

~Norsk Troll

Zombie:

'Ol Friend. You'll get AWFULLY hungry trying to hide out in the 'ol Kennedy mine, besides with the price of Gold they decided to reopen it.

You can't eat dirt, and there will be about 20 million other hungry survivors on the road headed your way, so don't even think about coming above ground for a year or two, less'n you want to be the main course.

But suit ch'yerself, offer stands at Rancho Costa Plenty, and if it's windy and the KI holds out, we'll be underground for a little while, (this is a '50's neighborhood still full of Bomb shelters) then if it's KAOS (not Maxwell Shmart kind) then we saddle up the horses and head for the Oregon Border at night and the very well stocked Huntin/Fishin camp with 60 tillable acres that nobody knows the way into or out of but the Havoc McClan s. (Well maybe the CIA and DoD have Satellite photos.)

A very pristine place to defend our little piece of paradise in WW IV. But if the nation holds together and asks for our help, we'll join up. (We have a HAM radio guy)

You just be sure to get here before the wagon train pulls out, and bring a couple people who can Weld and fix teeth.

PS - I always liked Johnny Cash

Those evil, genocidal, Zionist pigs are at it again - warning terrorists before bombing them.

This time they phoned the houses they were about to bomb to warn people to leave. Next time a missile goes astray will we be told of the efforts Israel goes to to avoid civilian casualties?

HEY AMELIE,WAIT UP.

#90 Little Bulldogs

An Israeli military spokeswoman said the militants' homes were hit because they were being used to store weapons and to hold "terrorist" meetings.

Oh those "terrorists"

In each case, the Israelis phoned the homes and warned the occupants.

Insanity. This is why the Israelis (and all of us) are losing in the long run. The insane belief that our enemies are "just like us". Call up the enemy and warn him of our plans, because really, he cares about his children just like we do.

Never mind the exhortation to explode from the imam -- they want their children to grow up to be doctors and lawyers and scholars just like we do.

/idiot moonbat

//nytol

Man...I know Spring Training is about 5 months away, but I hope this Daisuke Matsuzaka is worth the money...or at least the BoSox have thoughtfully included some package deal where a half dozen geishas or ko-gals are to be door prizes for out-of-state Red Sox fans.

Wow, fast pace thread. I'm dizzy.

Gosh, I can hardly keep up...

Chinese President snubs Canadian PM at summit. "Remarkably blunt" comments by Canadian PM anger China. Steven Harper, Canada's conservative leader, criticized China on human rights abuses.

Exclusively here.

Dumdeedeedumdedee...

The Chinese are like the muslims. they always play the offended card.
Eff them.

Good morning, dead thread.

Barely made it.

Do i hear Disney music?

Right on the dot, mike!

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

I got #100. I'm entitled to extra Krispy Kreams ™

Be a nice boy and SHARE!

Two nights ago there was a nasty exchange between a lizardette and a lizard. I found out today after I dropped off that day because of brakedown on my ISP.
The most incredible thing is that they were missunderstanding each other all the time! I think one of them even left LGF or something.

And then comes someone and declares that she's one of my (many) wives ROFL!

That was a crazy morning! But I can't understand why don't people read each other. They take offence at what they think, the other said. Crazy! lol.

littleoldlady
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Ok, mom ;)

# 105 Miguel

A lot of that goes down around here.

Mike
Indeed so. And I don't know if it's my appreciation only, but it seems to be getting worse.

littleoldlady
Was that your 5 am or my 5 am?

My 5 am. It's always about me, donja know.

It's not getting worse, Miguel. We're just in a "flare-up" period.

Like sunspots...

# 108 Miguel

Actually, thinking back on very similar incidents, I say the rate is roughly constant. But it's not like I keep records or anything.

littleoldlady
Mike
Both of you answered me in a like manner. Nothing really so different. Just a sun storm lol. Makes me feel better, believe it or not.

littleoldlady. Ok, I did it till 5 lol

addendum
Perhaps the elections were the black spots ;)

But just look at all the entertainment the election results are likely to supply !

Het - I just got invited for free beers, so I think I just might go git some. Later,...

Miguel,

I think it has more to do with personal issues than "The Big Picture".

Either that or I don't drink enough to keep up with the program... ;-)

Several lizards are concerned about moonbats in Mexico. But what is getting really out of hand, what I view as a bigger danger, are the drug dealers. They are having bigger and better armed groups of gunmen. Sometimes almost as well armed as the army. And they are operating from Chile to Canada. And, of course all over Mexico.
Things are getting so worrysome, that yesterday 12 people were killed by them. Internecine wars most of the times, so far. But still it's scary that they can kill almost anyone they want.
The average was about one killing a day, then five, now it's getting to be above ten. Last year about 1500 (fifteen hundred) people were killed in the drug wars. This year is heading to be above 3000.
Our own Iraq, and almost nobody talks about it, even down here. Although in the last few months there seems to be a bit more awareness in the MSM about this.

littleoldlady
I hear you. Thinking about it, you're right. Those discussions usually carry a very heavy personal component. Yes.

OTOH if you want me, I can fix a drink for you that you will be speaking in SANSCRIT! ;)
Feel like it? lol

#116 MigueldowninMexico 11/16/2006 02:35AM PST

Several lizards are concerned about moonbats in Mexico. But what is getting really out of hand, what I view as a bigger danger, are the drug dealers. They are having bigger and better armed groups of gunmen. Sometimes almost as well armed as the army.

Morning Miguel. I've heard some vague-ish reports of this for a couple of years now. Seems they have moved into several of the National Parks in the western US and are raising drugs, armed guards, killed a park ranger or two.

A blurb or three about "Mexican Army" invading areas along the Tex and AZ borders.

And a fairly recent report that the gangs have taken to beheading people.

I wonder why no one is reporting this more?

Miguel,

You know what? There's a very similar - and horrible! - situation in Philadelphia these days. More and more drug-related killings. And very often it's innocent children who get in the way of the bullets.

:-(

Everybody talks about it, and wants to do something about it, but nobody knows what to do.

#119 littleoldlady 11/16/2006 02:41AM PST

Miguel,

You know what? There's a very similar - and horrible! - situation in Philadelphia these days. More and more drug-related killings. And very often it's innocent children who get in the way of the bullets.

:-(

Everybody talks about it, and wants to do something about it, but nobody knows what to do.

Everybody has been talking about this kind of thing for 20 years now - the "war on drugs." But that has been SO mishandled it isn't funny. Sometimes they lock up folks for the stub of a joint - but then they will let some fairly big time dealer go in order to catch his even bigger supplier. Unfortunately they don't get those big fish often enough to make life dangerous for them. And as long as they stay out of the US they are pretty safe.

There actually IS a terror link, but you never see that publicized at all - only a tiny bit right after 911.

Here in VT we have a heroin problem of all things - most of which comes straight from the Taleban. Nobody seems to make the connection though.

galloping granny
I think very powerful interests are behind this. That's why the media look the other way.
Scary that you say this, and littleoldlady talks about PA. It's probably all over our continent at least.
I'm convinced we should be paying attentiont to this issue.
Furthermore, communist and muslim extremist groups are ready to have deals with the drug mafia.

Hi there :)

littleoldlady
Milton Freedman and I (great minds etc. etc.) have the solution to this. It's very simple, but I'm afraid no one is going to implement it :(
Solution: legalize cannabis and cocaine.
Period. You severely break the back of the drug mafia by doing that.

#121 MigueldowninMexico 11/16/2006 02:47AM PST

galloping granny
I think very powerful interests are behind this. That's why the media look the other way.
Scary that you say this, and littleoldlady talks about PA. It's probably all over our continent at least.
I'm convinced we should be paying attentiont to this issue.
Furthermore, communist and muslim extremist groups are ready to have deals with the drug mafia.

Hi there :)

Yeah, really kind of makes me wonder just where those interests actually lie. It seems to me that since the "war on drugs" has done little or nothing to either stop the drugs or stop people from using them, then perhaps the best tack would be to simply legalize them and then tax the dickens out of them. Nice new source of tax revenue, puts the "underground economy" out in one.

#122 MigueldowninMexico 11/16/2006 02:49AM PST

littleoldlady
Milton Freedman and I (great minds etc. etc.) have the solution to this. It's very simple, but I'm afraid no one is going to implement it :(
Solution: legalize cannabis and cocaine.
Period. You severely break the back of the drug mafia by doing that.

Might as well legalize heroin too - big boost for Afghanistan.

granny
Ok, include heroin then ;)

You are talking about a society that's banning cigarette usage left and right legalizing pot, cocaine and herion?

Uh huh. Sure. "Go ahead folks. You can use those drugs. All you have to do is find a place to use them..."

/here come the opium dens!

I think this sums up how many of us feel...

[Link: f-o-l.blogspot.com...]

littleoldlady
The place to use them would be private dwellings.
Now it's not going to happen until the drug lords become more dangerous for us than the muslims (in this continent, the rest I don't know). Or than the communists.
I just hope it is not too late that we brake their backs.

littleoldlady (#126),

There's always the comfort of your own home.

Morning Dead Thread Heads.

Oh! How many times have Milton and I gotten drunk over a bottle, crying because of this lack of resolve!

/bs...

Good morning Geepers :)
Dead thread heads lol, that's a drug you can enjoy at home lol.

Uncle Milton does not get drunk.

/yeah, that's the ticket.

;-)

littleoldlady
HAHAHAHAHAHA

YouTube.com: "Santa's Last Call" (November 15, 2006)

Okay, I just got trapped over on another thread reading about the situation with Hazan. Obviously I missed the pertinent "last post" from Hazan. Do any of you know the details of that and could you email me with them?

I'm suspecting that "Hazan" might have been caught :(

Draft the Elves! ROTFL!

Thanks, Cindy! :-)

Cindy
What a superb video LOL Fantastic ROFL!
:)

#129 Geepers

Michigan offers fans safety tips for OSU game

In an e-mail Monday inviting students to the True Blue Away-Game tailgate at the Fawcett Center, near Ohio Stadium, fans are advised to drive a car with non-Michigan license plates, if possible.

How the hell they suppose to get to the game? Steal a car in Toledo?

"Keep your Michigan gear to a minimum, or wait until you are inside the stadium to display it," the e-mail says. Another tip is: "If verbally harassed by opposing fans, don't take the bait."

Another tip, regardless of what your wearing, stay off the corner of 12th and High Street after the game as rioting will shortly ensue-- win or lose. Local police and riot squads will not be able to respond expediently in an event of criminal act.

Go Bucks!

granny
Who's Hazan?

I'm leaving in a few minutes. Starting to feel tired.

someone who has been posting from Pakistan, claims to have converted to Christianity and trying to get out.

A few days back (apparently I missed it) a "goodbye" was posted that from what I read indicates suicide. Nobody has heard from the person since, website is gone, etc.

granny,

Charles deleted Hazan's last post because he recorded a lot of personal information, i.e. his real name, location. He also said he was committing suicide because he was a Christian stuck forever in a Moslem world, with no chance of getting out.

:-(

People (LGFers) scrambled to help in various ways. I'm not sure what happened after that...

OH GOD! What a very sad thing. I hope it was a hoax. I really do. Otherwise, is way too sad.
Thanks granny and littleoldlady.

galloping granny (#141),

I don't know anything about Hazan, but for a 17 year old Pakistani from the poorest part of town I find it highly suspicious that his English was perfect.

GG

You got mail

He's site is still up.

#142 littleoldlady 11/16/2006 03:22AM PST

granny,

Charles deleted Hazan's last post because he recorded a lot of personal information, i.e. his real name, location. He also said he was committing suicide because he was a Christian stuck forever in a Moslem world, with no chance of getting out.

:-(

People (LGFers) scrambled to help in various ways. I'm not sure what happened after that...

Yeah, I gathered that. It seems to me like suicide would be abhorent to a newly converted Christian. Even islam is not big on suicide without a bomb strapped to you. I wonder if whoever Hazan was got caught and forced to post that?

If it's true, that's still more blood on the heads of the damn muslims.
God has to punish them. I don't see any other way justice will be served.

I'm sorry I have to leave, but I'm very tired and sleepy. Good bye and God bless everybody around :)

#144 Geepers 11/16/2006 03:27AM PST

galloping granny (#141),

I don't know anything about Hazan, but for a 17 year old Pakistani from the poorest part of town I find it highly suspicious that his English was perfect.

I have never been entirely sure how I felt about him one way or the other. Wanted to believe him - but didn't enough to offer high-risk help that could have revealed the helpers to people who really shouldn't know who they are.

'Night Miguel.

I spoke to Hazan exactly once, here on the Dead Thread. I don't know much about him at all. But that last post of his was very distressing.

I'm afraid I have to leave, too...

Good day, ALL!™

Hmmm...

™

Dat's bettah. :-)

galloping granny (#149),

Not only is his English perfect, but reading back through his posts he uses colloquialisms, makes jokes on/about American culture, has a firm grasp of computers and internet posting, claims he's safe because he's using a totally untraceable anonymizing program. And doesn't post about current events in Pakistan.

And his posts were always rather perky with extensive use of the big laugh emoticon ":D"

I'm very skeptical.

Good morning, Lizards.

#152 Geepers 11/16/2006 03:51AM PST

galloping granny (#149),

Not only is his English perfect, but reading back through his posts he uses colloquialisms, makes jokes on/about American culture, has a firm grasp of computers and internet posting, claims he's safe because he's using a totally untraceable anonymizing program. And doesn't post about current events in Pakistan.

And his posts were always rather perky with extensive use of the big laugh emoticon ":D"

I'm very skeptical.

Yeah, I have to agree with you Geepers. VERY good English for someone who was not born here, even if they have studied extensively. I know more than a couple of college professors who have been using English several decades and are not the comfortable in English.

German Academics: Embrace palestinians

BERLIN – Twenty five German academics published a petition Wednesday urging their government to loosen its embrace of Israel and start embracing Palestinians in an unprecedented act in the history of the relationship between Germany and Israel.

The academics in question are highly influential professors at the country’s leading universities which were mainly funded by the German government. Many of them are known for their anti-Israel stances.

The academics called on the German government to stop giving “special treatment” to Israel following the Holocaust and warned that the sympathetic attitude could lead to unrest amidst the German people.

The petition was recently published in the German based journal Frankfurter Rundschau owned by the Dumont Schauberg publishing house. The company recently purchased 25 percent of Haaretz’s stocks.

...

So what did everyone think of Glenn Beck last night? I Tivo'ed it and havent seen it yet? Was it better or worsr than Obsession.

#155 Globular Cluster 11/16/2006 03:55AM PST

German Academics: Embrace palestinians

REally starting to look like the entire world - including the US - is going to toss Israel to the wolves.

#157 galloping granny 11/16/2006 04:02AM PST

#155 Globular Cluster 11/16/2006 03:55AM PST

German Academics: Embrace palestinians

REally starting to look like the entire world - including the US - is going to toss Israel to the wolves.

Well the Palis are the civilized, peaceful, good guys. Sarc

#89 Havoc

Will do! Sounds like a plan.

This is funny

Al-Jazeera, which is bankrolled by Qatar's royal family, said its signal would reach 80 million households with cable and satellite TV, mainly in the Middle East and Europe. It hopes to steal viewers from CNN and the British Broadcasting Corp. by giving the world's 1 billion English speakers news from a non-Western perspective.

Doesnt CNN and especially the BBC allready do that?

Irony news article of the day

Iran complains to U.N. over repeated Israeli threats

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Iran, whose president has vowed to wipe Israel off the map, complained to the United Nations on Wednesday that the Jewish state was repeatedly threatening to bomb it.

The threats were "matters of extreme gravity" and the U.N. Security Council should condemn them and demand that Israel "cease and desist immediately from the threat of the use of force against members of the United Nations," Iranian U.N. Ambassador Javad Zarif said.

His comments came in a letter to U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan dated November 10 and circulated at the United Nations on Wednesday.

[Link: today.reuters.com...]

Good Morning, Y'All.
VDH on Thursday!

Of course, most Democrats believe Bush is usually wrong - but maybe not always completely wrong. After all, Syria got out of Lebanon, Libya abandoned its weapons of mass destruction, and gulf sheikdoms have been pressured to reform - all of which might just operate in reverse if the U.S. is to abruptly withdraw from Iraq.

In short, despite the election posturing, the Democrats in charge of ensuring a lasting majority are, as of now, somewhat quiet. Can it be that they are seeing that the only choices we have had after Sept. 11 have been mostly either bad or worse - and that, for those in power hoping both to prevent another such attack on our soil and not to "lose Iraq," there aren't any easy solutions?

More Bark Than Bite?
By Victor Davis Hanson
I don't know about you all, but I'm ready to hear the Democrats' plan today.
Hey Dems, "Bring it on!".

_{What? They dont' have a plan?}

#160 Elric66 11/16/2006 04:07AM PST

This is funny

Al-Jazeera, which is bankrolled by Qatar's royal family, said its signal would reach 80 million households with cable and satellite TV, mainly in the Middle East and Europe. It hopes to steal viewers from CNN and the British Broadcasting Corp. by giving the world's 1 billion English speakers news from a non-Western perspective.

Doesnt CNN and especially the BBC allready do that?

Maybe this is an attempt to convince all of us how fair, balanced, truthful and unbiased CNN and BBC are. :)

#163 galloping granny 11/16/2006 04:17AM PST

#160 Elric66 11/16/2006 04:07AM PST

This is funny

Al-Jazeera, which is bankrolled by Qatar's royal family, said its signal would reach 80 million households with cable and satellite TV, mainly in the Middle East and Europe. It hopes to steal viewers from CNN and the British Broadcasting Corp. by giving the world's 1 billion English speakers news from a non-Western perspective.

Doesnt CNN and especially the BBC allready do that?

Maybe this is an attempt to convince all of us how fair, balanced, truthful and unbiased CNN and BBC are. :)

Nothing could convince me of that :-)

Halo 3 is coming out soon. Masterchief's final battle against The Flood. And he teams up with the Covenant to try and beat them. Maybe, if we're lucky, alien life-forms will attack earth right about now, and the poor, ill-equipped, cowardice that is the US Government( esp. now, since the leftists are in charge somewhat totally it seems *vomit) can sick the terrorists on the invading space-creatures.

/sorry, i've slid into a fantasy world since my real one is going to hell in a handbasket on a bullet train.

About the Hazan thing: He claimed to be a Capricorn in some places, but also claimed to be born on 3/27/1989
The thing that I found confusing was his preference for the spelling of words was
#1. U.S. English then,
#2. British - but then making a point of calling attention to it
One time, he got it backward (favour vs. favor):

/and I naturally spell it favor - but I have to practise British spelling or else I'll lose marks in my English A-level exam!

I don't know why he would have to practice/practise British spelling if that is where he was born and raised.

Okay, I'm back. And have only skimmed the foregoing just to see if Miguel and littleoldlady had left.

As to the drug problem, I do believe that none other than Tom Clancy might have been on to something here. Forget the gangs, forget the dealers. Focus on the users. Possesion arrests, and blood tests. I'm not saying imprison them. A month or two cleaning streets in, uh, 'disadvanteged' meighborhoords in bright orange jump suits 5 days a week, each and every time they're caught might just have a salutory effect. If you want to derease prices for a commodity (and hence the profit in producing said commodity), just reduce the demand for the product. At the very least, it has the advantage of being a potential solution that's never been tried.

Cleaning streets does not address addiction.

They reaLLLy have their act together in San Fran, huh?
Supreme Court Cleans Up After 9th Circuit

WASHINGTON -- There should be two Supreme Courts, one to reverse the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, the other to hear all other cases. Last term, more of the Supreme Court's caseload -- 18 of 82 cases (22 percent) -- came from the liberal 9th Circuit, based in San Francisco, than from any other circuit, and the 9th was reversed in 15 of the 18. The 9th's winning percentage (.167) was worse than that of the 1962 Mets (.250). On Monday, in the first decision of this term, the Supreme Court reversed the 9th's fretfulness on behalf of Fernando Belmontes.

In order, as he explained to one of his accomplices, to "take out a witness,'' Belmontes used perhaps 20 blows with a metal dumbbell bar to bludgeon to death Steacy McConnell, whose home he had entered for a burglary. He emerged drenched with her blood and carrying her stereo that he sold for $100. She was 19. Belmontes killed her 25 years ago.

How did capital punishment jurisprudence reach its current baroque condition, in which cases live longer than did the murder victims? At the hands of judges such as Stephen Reinhardt, a residue of Jimmy Carter's presidency, who says Belmontes' "robbery gone wrong'' lacked "especially heinous elements.''...

Jimmy Carter, the failed president that keeps on giving.

and if we legalize drugs, your kids and grandkids can ride the bus with a super cool bus driver who just shot up about an hour ago! schweeet.

Seriously, you have to think about these things in practical terms, folks.

the 9th circuit should be disbarred and disbanned

#170 Owl 11/16/2006 04:32AM PST
and if we legalize drugs, your kids and grandkids can ride the bus with a super cool bus driver who just shot up about an hour ago! schweeet.

Seriously, you have to think about these things in practical terms, folks.

Tougher sentences for deals is the best route. If you sell drugs to kids, hard labor up in Alaska for life.

# 169 J.D.

Reversed 15 out of 18 ? Simply astounding ! Ya know, this is the sort of thing impeachement was meant to handle. Okay, that's hyperbole - being stubbornly stupid isn't actually listed as an impeaceable offense.

#170 Owl

and if we legalize drugs, your kids and grandkids can ride the bus with a super cool bus driver who just shot up about an hour ago! schweeet.

Seriously, you have to think about these things in practical terms, folks.

Wait a minute. Drinking alcohol is legal in this country. But airline pilots lose their job if they report for work under the influence.

#171 quiet man 11/16/2006 04:36AM PST
the 9th circuit should be disbarred and disbanned

Why? The jihadists and commies need a court too. :-)

Porsche rumored to be taking over Volkswagon ? Actually, and historically, that seems about right.

Good Morning Dead Threaders.

Well, it is becoming clearer and clearer to me that the Dem's grand plan in Iraq is just to skedadle and pretty quick. If you notice, the MSM is still focusing on the daily casualty count to keep people angry and upset. This is the same strategy they used during Viet Nam to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Of course, they plan on taking the White House with Hillary in '08, and they do not want foreign issues to complicate their socialistic waltz to the promised land. I think defunding the military will become a more and more frequently mentioned option. Clinton's comment yesterday the "Hope is not a strategy" opened the door for the Dem's to blame the military, Bush, and walk away from all this. We will start hearing more about how we could spend the money on health care or social security and such, and a large part of the population will just eat that up.

I give it no more than 6 months before we start leaving Iraq.

And as I've said before here, Israel will be pretty much on their own going forward, thanks to the Dem's. I read some exit polling data, such as it is, that said about 87% of the Jesish voters voted Democrat in this last election, and that was discussed here as well. Well, they are getting what they wanted, I guess.

EC Marm (#166),

About the Hazan thing: He claimed to be a Capricorn in some places, but also claimed to be born on 3/27/1989
The thing that I found confusing was his preference for the spelling of words was
#1. U.S. English then,
#2. British - but then making a point of calling attention to it
One time, he got it backward (favour vs. favor):

Yeah, that's just something that doesn't happen.

I think were being played.

San Francisco Dumps JROTC, Adopts GayROTC

Rush interviews Glenn Beck

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

Pakistan looking to climb out of the fourth century?

Pakistan: Islamic rape laws to be amended
So far, no-one has been executed, but several women victims of rape have been imprisoned as adulterers
Wednesday, November 15, 2006

Pakistan's laws on rape have been contentious, and attempts to amend them have foundered twice this year. Because they are based on Islamic Sharia Law, a woman who has been raped must provide four witnesses to the event, otherwise her reporting of rape is seen as a confession of "zina" or unlawful sexual intercourse, which can incur the death penalty and 100 lashes. So far, no-one has been executed, but several women victims of rape have been imprisoned as "adulterers"...

Source
"which can incur the death penalty and 100 lashes" I better not touch that quote.

Now that the election is over, Wal-Mart is suddenly a good company in Al-Reuters world. Wal-Mart to offer $4 generic perscriptions in 11 more states.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. said on Thursday it would begin selling certain generic prescription drugs for $4 in 11 new states, including Massachusetts, bringing the total to 38 states.

The world's biggest retailer, which launched the $4 generic drug program in Florida in September, said the program would be available in Washington, Idaho, Kentucky, Maine, Massachusetts, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Utah and West Virginia as of Thursday.

The last I heard from the MSM, Wal-Mart was this evil entity who was ruining the world and destroying the common man. Now, get this from the socialists at Al-Reuters:

When Wal-Mart first announced the $4 plan in September, it drove down shares of drugstores chains such as Walgreen Co. and CVS Corp.. The drugstore companies and analysts have said they see little threat from Wal-Mart's plan, noting that cash prescriptions account for only a small portion of their profits.

So now, Wal-Mart does not hurt other entities who serve other market niches and in fact provides a good product at a real good price. Hmmm. Interesting how things change after an election.

#170 Owl

Hyperbole, a bit? Just as a bus driver is not allowed to drive the bus while under the influence of alcohol now, she/he would not be allowed to do so while under the influence of heroin/cocaine if either were declared legal.

Pelosi to redeploy from ‘situation’
Now there's a plan.

...“On an issue that relates to war and the conduct of war, we have always said from the start this is completely an individual decision. There is no leadership conversation about this in terms of encouraging members to go one place or another, not like an issue like prescription drugs or Social Security, which are core issues to the Democratic Party. People have their own views on it, and we all respect them.”

Months ago, all sorts of people gave Pelosi the benefit of the doubt when she said things like that. For example, when she told the Post that there would be no party position on Iraq, the Post headlined the story, “Pelosi hails Democrats’ diverse war stances.”

That was a very nice way to put it. But with all due respect to the next Speaker, what the hell kind of policy is that? The our-policy-is-to-have-no-policy position might have been good enough to get Democrats through the election, but now it’s looking worse and worse each day.

Still, what would you expect from a party leader who not only doesn’t know what to do about the war — she doesn’t even know what to call it?

“This isn’t a war to win,” Pelosi told Fox News’s Brit Hume last week. “It’s a situation to be solved.”

Put that statement together with her comments during the Murtha controversy, and it’s fair to conclude that Pelosi believes the way to solve the situation is to redeploy from the situation.

It leads one to wonder: What kind of policies would Pelosi have advocated had she been in power during earlier situations?

You know, like World Situation I — sometimes known as the “situation to end all situations?”

Or World Situation II? (When the U.S. was actually fighting in Okinawa and could have redeployed to the periphery in Iraq.)

Or the Korean Situation. Or the Vietnam Situation. Or the Persian Gulf Situation. ...

Good Morning Y'all from a WET, and mild (63 degrees, but on it's way down to 48 degrees by dinnertime) Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Cold.

ploome (#183),

do you want your doctor smokin'?

dentist?

finacial advisor?

the kids babysitter?

teacher?

They're smoking now.

Rainy and wet in Cen SC but not too cold thankfully.

And Rush interviewed Glenn Beck over his show last night. Seems Rush does get it. He needs to educate his audience.

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

What he wrote:

“What should the free world do while facing Islamist intimidation?” – wrote Robert Redeker, a French philosophy teacher and writer.

The result:

"I am now in a catastrophic personal situation. Several death threats have been sent to me, and I have been sentenced to death by organizations of the al-Qaeda movement. [...] On the websites condemning me to death there is a map showing how to get to my house to kill me, they have my photo, the places where I work, the telephone numbers, and the death pronouncement. [...] There is no safe place for me, I have to beg, two evenings here, two evenings there. [...] I am under the constant protection of the police. I must cancel all scheduled conferences.

Source

#176 Mike C.

Porsche rumored to be taking over Volkswagon ? Actually, and historically, that seems about right.

Remember the VW Bug? I recall working on my first Bug as a kid when I was a mechanic. Neighbor had one and he needed some engine work done over the weekend. We pulled the engine by ourselves, took the heads off and then literally picked it up out of the engine compartment between the two of us and put it in a wheelbarrow. The engine was air cooled, which simplified things a lot. We rebuilt the engine as it sat in the wheelbarrow, put it back in, and then he drove it from Chicago to California and back on business. Pretty reliable little car, that Bug.

DESPERATE CONGRESSWOMEN OF HYSTERIA LANE

In the past week, there are 476 documents on Nexis heralding the magnificent achievement of Nancy Pelosi becoming the FIRST WOMAN speaker of the House.

I thought we had moved beyond such multicultural milestones.

The media yawned when Condoleezza Rice became the first black female secretary of state (and when Lincoln Chafee became the first developmentally disabled senator).

There were only 77 documents noting that Rice was the first black woman to be the secretary of state, and half of them were issues of Jet, Essence, Ebony or Black Entrepreneur magazine.

A New York Times profile of Rice at the time waited until the last sentence to note in passing that Rice was "only the second woman, and the first black woman, to hold the job." (In a separate column by me, it was noted that Rice was the "first competent woman" to hold the job.)

Not everyone ignored Secretary Rice's achievement. Gore's campaign manager, Donna Brazile — the last black person to hold a prominent role in any Democratic presidential campaign — told Newsweek that when she watched President Bush nominate Rice, "I had chills up and down my spine." Brazile said: "I never thought in my lifetime I'd see an African-American woman being nominated as secretary of state. George Bush made that happen."

On MSNBC's "Hardball," even Al Sharpton said of Rice's appointment, "I don't think you can sneeze at the fact that she has made a tremendous achievement as the first black woman in history to be a State Department head."

Rice was not the first black secretary of state because Bush had already made Colin Powell the first black secretary of state. That was back during Bush's first term, when Rice was the first female national security adviser.

Bush also named Alberto Gonzales the first Hispanic attorney general. He made an Arab-American, Spencer Abraham, secretary of energy; a Cuban-American, Carlos Gutierrez, secretary of commerce; an Asian-American, Elaine Chao, secretary of labor; and a retarded-American, Norman Mineta, secretary of transportation. It was as if Mariah Carey and Tiger Woods had children and they all joined the Bush Cabinet.

#187 {MandyManners) Morning to ya'! COLD and WET here. Other than cold how are y'al doing?

Great!

Oh Boy: Pelosi Faces No-Win Outcome Over Murtha
WASHINGTON - Democrats moved toward picking a top lieutenant to speaker-to-be Nancy Pelosi and hoped to put to rest a politically costly family feud that intensified just days after they reclaimed the House from GOP control.

Pelosi passed over Steny Hoyer of Maryland, now the assistant minority leader, and endorsed longtime ally John Murtha of Pennsylvania to become majority leader, the powerful No. 2 party post in the House. Yet Murtha could prove to be a problematic candidate because of his penchant for trading votes for pork projects and his ties to the Abscam bribery sting in 1980, the only lawmaker involved who wasn't charged.

FBI agents pretending to represent an Arab sheik wanting to reside in the United States and seeking investment opportunities offered bribes to several lawmakers. When offered $50,000, Murtha was recorded as saying, "I'm not interested ... at this point." A grand jury declined to indict Murtha, and the House ethics committee issued no findings against him.

"I told them I wanted investment in my district," Murtha told MSNBC's "Hardball" on Wednesday. "They put $50,000 on the table and I said, 'I'm not interested.'"

Hoyer, a Pelosi rival, was battling to hold onto the lead in the race with Murtha. A closed-door caucus was to convene Thursday morning, and both candidates were predicting victory via a secret ballot, which allows lawmakers to be evasive when asked of their intentions.

The Hoyer-Murtha battle is a no-win situation for Pelosi, who had hoped to avoid the fight. She is expected to be elected speaker of the House, a Constitutional office that is third in line for the presidency, when the new Congress convenes in January with a Democratic majority.

Pelosi allies, including confidant George Miller of California, were aggressively courting votes for Murtha.

A Murtha victory could create hard feelings among Hoyer allies, especially moderate Democrats. On the other hand, a Hoyer victory could be seen as a defeat for Pelosi in her first major move since Election Day.

Either way, the race has roiled a Democratic caucus that will need maximum unity in order to effectively rule the fractious House come January.

[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]

Some funny bidness with Osama Obama

Doubt this story will make it into his glowing profiles, but what the heck, here it is anyway.

I wonder if Abramoff gave him any dough?

#194 MandyManners - Hmmm, you're a regular "Chatty Cathy" this morning, ain'tcha? LOL
BBIM - gotta get some coffee.

SOme of us really enjoy Rush, but don't forget his little brother also knows what's going on.

Party is intellectually and morally bankrupt, I'll concede Republicans are floundering right now. Ideologically, this is a center-right nation, and yet Republicans lost at the polls. Democrats are going to continue being who they are, but Republicans need to come home.
It's true our congressional losses were not unusual for a midterm election, especially in the president's second term. But if the party had stuck to its principles, it wouldn't have sustained such losses. Republicans need to find their voice again, and well before the 2008 elections -- which will be a formidable challenge.
Before addressing the points of conflict, let's consider the principles upon which most Republicans agree. Most agree on lower taxes, lower spending, less government regulation, a strong national defense and originalist judges. Our elected Republican representatives haven't always lived up to these principles, but they remain our principles.

#191 3wood

Well, your repairs certainly passed the driving test!

I remember my roomate in college had a bug. I used to have to help push it to get it started -- running alongside and then having to hop in. That was a blast.

Top general hits pullout plan by Democrats

repost regarding the Hazan Khan, secret apostate thing:

Has anyone had any news?

I looked up the centre where Bilal said he is studying & there was an arrest on Monday (last week, I think) of a 'terrorist.'

Shows how close at home danger is to Bilal.

This is the link & story.

QUETTA: Police have arrested a terrorist from Bolan Medical College Colony Brewery road here Monday.

Superintendent of Police Wazir Khan Nassar told medua here today that acting on a secret information that a terrorist was hiding in Brewery road, a police party raided BMC Colony and arrested one person.

Recovered form him were kalashinkov (5), hand grenades (2), timers (3), Battery, detonator, vehicles (2), sensitive documents and currency.

Name of alleged terrorist was being kept secret. In the preliminary investigation accused is reported to have admitted involvement in several terrorists acts in Quetta.

Further investigation was expected, SP Wazir Nassar said.

[Link: www.thenews.com.pk...]

# 191 3 wood

Remember them ? I owned 4 VWs in a row. 62 Ghia, 64 Bug, 68 Bug and 74 Camper bus (no pop-top.) Last rode in one from Cd. de Pemex to Villahermosa while they were still being produced in Mexico back in 2003, I think. I remember wondering exactly how in hell I ever thought that was a good car. My 96 Geo Metro is an effing Ferrari compared to one of those, and a lot more comfortable to boot. And not hardly any bigger. But it was the most common student vehicle when I was in college. The $ 300 Volkswagon. At least they were easy to push-start.

#195 realwest

OMG! San Fran Nan (Love that, whoever came up with it) will be third in line for the... the... PRESIDENCY?!

That is truly frightening. We'd be living under a socialist totalitarian government immediately.

/hyperbole

Back to GOP basics
By David Limbaugh
November 16, 2006

The antidote for what ails the Republican Party and the nation today is not to surrender to the destructive policies of the Democratic Party. But in the next few years, conservatives need to resurrect a defining, unifying message, which might result in some realignments. The guiding philosophy should be Reagan conservatism applied to today's set of similar (and different) problems. As the elections proved, Republicans cannot rely on the Democrats' bankruptcy to bail them out -- and they shouldn't...

Source

I remember my roomate in college had a bug. I used to have to help push it to get it started -- running alongside and then having to hop in. That was a blast.

The cars were so simply designed that there was not a lot that could go wrong. It was sort of like having a large lawn mower, it would run until it wore out. The one my neighbor had was a 2 speed. Took a long time to get it up to highway speeds but it was fine around town. IRCC he paid $1,900 for it brand new, first car he bought out of college.

#198 JammieWearingFool
Oopps... You found it first. Sorry!

#176 Mike C

WSJ last week - Audi management to take over at VW

also covered here

Thursday, November 16, 2006

Jesus doll accepted by Toys for Tots

Final score: Jesus 1, Marines 0. Turns out a 12-inch talking Jesus doll may end up in the hands of needy children this Christmas after all...

Link

#197 realwest

Tthhhpppttt.

# 205 3 wood

Uh, 2 speed ? I don't think so. Bugs came only with a 4 speed from the first import back in the 50s (with the 1136 (?) cc, 36 HP engine) until they introduced that stupid semi-auto tranny sometime in the early 70s.

On Iraq: Okay, Democrats, Now What?
By Larry Elder
*crickets*

For the Republicans' loss of Congress, credit public anger over Iraq. Not just because, as the president put it, "Iraq is not working well enough, fast enough," but the accusation -- often unchallenged by members of the mainscream media -- that "President Bush lied us into the war."

After the Democratic takeover of Congress, one pundit simply wrote off this hideous allegation as mere pre-election posturing. You know, just "politics." Thus, the Democrats slander the commander in chief during a period of wartime. And, after they win, it's just political chitchat.

Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., incoming chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, once posted on his website the alleged acts of the president that, in his view, constitute grounds for impeachment. Suddenly, before the election, Conyers removed this from his website. And incoming Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., calls the impeachment efforts now "off the table."

Surely, if the president indeed "lied us into the war," he damn well deserves impeachment. But now that the Democrats captured Congress, they suddenly stopped believing that President Bush sent men and women into harm's way as a result of a calculated, considered, deliberate deceit.

In 2000 and 2004, many Democrats yelled about "stolen elections" and voter "disenfranchisement." In a letter to Democrats in Ohio, John Kerry claimed that state election officials stole the election from him. But what of the lack of Republican cries of voter fraud, "disenfranchisement" and demands for investigations? Apparently, when Democrats win, elections function smoothly, but when Republicans win, the fix is in.

Pre-election, Democrats claimed they possessed a "unified" strategy to deal with Iraq. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., had a "four-point plan." Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., the architect of the Democratic House takeover, touted his "five-point plan." But on election night, after the Democratic takeover became obvious, Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., offered a slightly different perspective.

Sherman: I don't think the party has united behind a plan that is any more specific than we should leave a little sooner than George Bush has in mind.

Elder: That's not much of a plan.

Sherman: The voters did not require us to have a plan. . . . Nobody knows what's going to happen in the future and whether the Democratic idea or the Republican plan on this or that issue is going to be good. . . .

Elder: But I remember watching Sunday morning chat shows and hearing Chuck Schumer say the Democrats were united behind a plan to deal with Iraq. I heard Rahm Emanuel say the Democrats were united behind a plan for Iraq. Now what I'm hearing you say is whatever our plan is, we're not going to stay quite as long as George W. Bush would stay. So which is it? ...

#202 Mike C.

I owned 4 VWs in a row. 62 Ghia, 64 Bug, 68 Bug and 74 Camper bus (no pop-top.)

I had a 70 Squareback (pancake engine w/fuel injection); 72 SuperBeetle, and my favorite, the 1970 Bus w/Westy top. I drove the bus all around to Dead shows. :-) All you needed in the car's toolbox were two wrenches, 10 & 13 mm, a feeler gage and timing light. For home, you needed a 17 mm wrench to remove the starter & engine. To move the engine you would remove the bolts, push the bus forward and catch the engine on 2 x 4s, which two people would carry like a stretcher. My bus had an outboard oil cooler mounted on the side with an air scoop and a Fiat fan to draw air through it when the bus was stuck in traffic. The fan was controlled by a Volvo defogger switch on the dashboard.

A magnificent heat sink with currents to even out temperatures and make the planet habitable. A miracle. Thank you God.

#209 MandyManners Oh nice, very noice (he says in his best cockney accent)! ROTFLMAO!

Murtha to Redeploy from Leadership Battle
by Scott Ott

(2006-11-16) — With the battle for House Majority Leader threatening to spark “civil war” within the Democrat party, one of the combatants, Rep. Jack Murtha, D-PA, today announced a new victory strategy designed to “win the peace.”

“I’m going to pull out, or rather, redeploy to a committee chairmanship,” said Rep. Murtha, “We have to stop all the sniping and political bombshells. We need to change direction, because we can’t win this battle.”

The Pennsylvania lawmaker said his move was not a retreat, but rather “another way of defining victory.”

His opponent, Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-MD, immediately declared himself to be House Majority Leader, and then informed Rep. Murtha that “unfortunately, no committee leadership posts are available…at this point.”
Scrappleface (political satire)

# 210 p h

I still would not buy a vehicle with an automatic transmission. The wife's Subaru has an automatic. I don't drive it often, but it sure ain't no fun.

#202 Mike C.

I remember wondering exactly how in hell I ever thought that was a good car. My 96 Geo Metro is an effing Ferrari compared to one of those, and a lot more comfortable to boot. And not hardly any bigger.

Problem with them in the Chicago area was they were so light they tended to spin on ice and snow. That, and the heater was pretty much useless.

#183 ploome

Pot is legal in Belgium and Holland. The only result that I don't like to see is that it is very common to see young kids (12-16) getting high on the streets, especially before and after school. I smell it all the time and its usually from a kid that looks too young. The age limit is 16 but that doesn't seem to matter; it's generally legal.

Mornin' {realwest}. I'm heading up northerly today for a few days. I have a problem, though. I don't know where my coats are.

uh-oh

210 ploome hineni

"For on the floor, Three on the tree or Trash on the dash."

(automatic tranny)

Ha !

I just ordered Oriana Fallaci's last 2 books. Has anyone read them?

#211 Mike C.

Uh, 2 speed ? I don't think so. Bugs came only with a 4 speed from the first import back in the 50s (with the 1136 (?) cc, 36 HP engine) until they introduced that stupid semi-auto tranny sometime in the early 70s.

My mistake, this was 35 years ago. I guess it just drove like it was a 2 speed.

# 214 WWtW

My 74 Westphalia camper was perfect when I bought it while living in Dallas. It was not so desirable when we moved to WV (hills, ya know). Finally traded it for my first new vehicle, a 75 Ford E-100 van. Had the straight 6 and a 3-on -a-tree tranny. Felt like a Bonneville car after those 4 VWs. When I traded that out for a new (first year) 79 Honda Prelude, I felt like I had moved up to F1. Now I drive a ten year old Geo because I really just don't care anymore. Paid for, goes from A to B, runs. Good enough.

#223 Elric66 11/16/2006 05:31AM PST

I just ordered Oriana Fallaci's last 2 books. Has anyone read them?

Yes I have

#221 J.D. Morning! Um, how far "up North" do ya mean? Y'all could get along fine with a sweater and a trench coate with a zip in liner, at most, here in Charlotte.

# 219 3 wood

They had heaters ? You mean those two useless little levers (or the equally useless knob in later versions) ? And by the way, if you planted them just right on a rock while going off-road (they would do that), and crimped one of the cable tubes for one of those levers, good luck getting that working again. Been there, done that.

#227 realwest PS - J.D. - but bring boots!

#226 BabbaZee 11/16/2006 05:38AM PST
#223 Elric66 11/16/2006 05:31AM PST

I just ordered Oriana Fallaci's last 2 books. Has anyone read them?

Yes I have

Were they worth buying? Or did I waste my money?

#230 Elric66
If you had a bible you'd put them right next to it.
Read them more than once.

#213 ploome hineni

I've my tea right here, thankyouverymuch.

#216 realwest

What can I say?! I'm in a slightly foul mood because I forgot to buy decent tea and I'm stuck with regular Lipton. Gack!

#231 BabbaZee 11/16/2006 05:40AM PST
#230 Elric66
If you had a bible you'd put them right next to it.
Read them more than once.

Thats a pretty good endorsement. I guess I will have some good reading material soon.

#225 Mike C. - "Paid for, goes from A to B, runs. Good enough." And gets good gas mileage too, I'll bet.
What more do ya need in a car?
Oh, and good evening! Didja eat dinner yet?

Ploome

Alcohol is legal
Coffee is legal
Nicotine is legal

etc
etc
etc

Weed is way less caustic to the body and dangerous to the imbiber and anyone who comes near the imbiber than alcohol

why is it illegal?

#229 realwest
Boots?

uh oh

Let the moonbats descend upon the Realm...

#222 Ojoe

The old man had a 64 Dodge Dart. 50th Anniversary edition, with the small block V-8 with the 4-bbl carb. And that stupid, stupid, stupid push-button auto tranny on the dash. Like Dodges from that era, it did run like a scalded cat up to about 50 K miles, when it promptly fell apart. But we never got there, as I parked it up against a 2' diameter maple tree at 60 mph. I survived (barely) - the Dodge didn't. I saw the maple tree just last year, and it's doing fine, aside from that unsightly scar where I hit it.

#234 MandyManners - stuck with regular Lipton? Other than something called Lord (or maybe Earl)Grey tea, Lipton's the only tea I've ever drunk! Ya means they make other types of tea, too?

#235 Elric66
Read Rage and Pride
first and then Force of Reason

#233 ploome hineni

Alcohol is legal, as is tobacco. I believe marijuana would be legal if the government could figure out a way to ensure a way to regulate growth so as to tax it. It's easier to grow marijuana than it is to make hootch. All it take is a few seeds, soil, water and sunshine.

#218 Mike C.

After 30+ years of riding high performance motorcycles, no automobile costing less than $150,000 impresses me anymore, so I drive a full-sized, four door, pickup truck... with an automatic transmission. That way, I can trailer my bikes to where the fun riding begins in total comfort. For many years I had two bikes and NO FOUR WHEELER, but now that I'm nearly fifty, I've "mellowed."

I had some sporty cars as a kid: My first was a 1969 VW Bug that I hot rodded (Remember those annoyingly loud bugs with Mickey Thompson Indy Profile tires? That was me), and later I had a 1974 Fiat X-1/9 that used to slaughter Corvettes on super-tight gymkhana courses.

There is this little tiny car called a Lotus Elise that a friend of mine has (Very rich entertainment industry friend with about a half-dozen exotics), and he says it would be like an X-1/9 with a 200 HP motor, and that's about all I can think of as a car I might like to have. At first I thought he was FOS, but when he sold BOTH of his Porche's because he never drove them anymore, I figured he was probably serious.

He kept the Lambo and the Ferraris.

Cars are toys. A man ought to have a truck. Where I live, trucks are status symbols. I've actually overheard girls talking about guys and one will ask, "What kind of a truck does he drive?"

I love Texas. ;^)

The good news is my one day w/o internet service, as I was away near Corpus Christi supervising well work in a dust storm, is over.

#241 realwest

I am feeling particularly funky this a.m. without my English breakfast, Irish breakfast, Earl Grey or plantation mint. *whimper*

#225 Mike C.

Somehow I went from my string of VWs to a pair of Plymouth monsters: the Volare with the Slant 6 (the body fell apart around the engine), and the Valiant (V8 engine and torsion-bar suspension).

Heat in the VW bus is like the fabulous taqqiyalope. I didn't even have the tube that brought heat up to the front seat. I had to keep an ice scraper next to my seat to keep the windshield clear. (Why do people always assume I was on drugs when I had the Bus?)

243 MandyManners

they could figure it out
problem is too many people make too much money off it being illegal
contraband is big $$ to many people
they dont want to loose that

#231 BabbaZee 11/16/2006 05:40AM PST

#230 Elric66
If you had a bible you'd put them right next to it.
Read them more than once.

I'm putting them on my wish list right now...but will my liberals relatives be willing to buy them?

#242 {BabbaZee} - Morning Babba! How are you doing today? Is it rainy and/or cool where you are?

Weed is way less caustic to the body and dangerous to the imbiber and anyone who comes near the imbiber than alcohol

say what?

someone has hijacked babbas computer.
i'm hopin'.

hmmm

# 236 realwest

Got invited to the pub down the street and had a steak and Guinness pie. Pub food. Not as good as you'd get in Britain, but then, I ain't in Britain.

#242 BabbaZee 11/16/2006 05:46AM PST
#235 Elric66
Read Rage and Pride
first and then Force of Reason

Will do. I think some of my co workers and family are getting worried that I have been educating myself on the threat of Islam. :-)

#243 MandyManners

It's easier to grow marijuana than it is to make hootch. All it take is a few seeds, soil, water and sunshine.

The best weed is grown hydroponically in basements. I'm sure the Cult of Money™ doesn't appreciate that it truly is a cottage industry.

I had a Dodge van with a slant six; my at the time girlfreind rolled it or i'd still have it.

I also had a Fiat 850 with the same kind of semi-automatic tranny at the Bug. It was a great car
.
Now with kids, we have a Volvo station wagon, what else?

#249 DistantThunder
If they know what they contain they wont be willing to buy them! Chances of that are slim unless they are very well read. I havent met one American moonbat who knows who Oriana is.

{Real}
I am literally buried in a fog cloud here it is rainy and hot and humid
it's screwing me all up, LOL

#253 Elric66
Yea, GOD forbid anyone should seek and attain knowledge that hasn't been put through the mastication bullshiticus machine of the MSM... like my moonbat inlaws who think I am woefully undereducated because I don't read the NYT and Time mag or watch TV.

[spit]

The 68 Dodge Dart is the immortal vehicle that can never die.

I'll be back...

Gotta do some work.

Mornin' Babba! *happy wave*

{Uberfaxicus Hucbaldicus}

# 244 Hucbald

I've had trucks. And honking big 4-wheelers, back before anybody ever heard the term SUV. But I have no use for one now, so I have no intention of buying one. Last year I drove a Mini-Cooper S. And that, let me tell you, is a small car. Makes my Geo Metro look large and ungainly. But it drives remarkably well. And goes very well, thanks in part to the manual 6-speed tranny But too expensive, and WAY too trendy for the likes of me. Plus it sported what has to be the butt-ugliest dashboard I have ever seen on a motor vehicle. And I'm including farm tractors in that assessment.

I would like an H-D, though. The fact that the house I live in doesn't have a garage has probably extended my life span.

Hugh Fitzgerald at Jihadwatch:

If President Bush had spent more time learning about Islam from people like Robert Spencer, Steve Emerson, Daniel Pipes, Brigette Gabriel, and Bat Ye'or, he might indeed have foreseen the fratricidal nature of strife in Iraq after Saddam Hussein. Were anyone in the aforementioned group not available, the president could have learned much the same thing in consultation with the Kurds, or conversation with still-fugitive author Salman Rushdie, or any Muslim convert to Christianity.

Even those of us who've never had a power lunch or darkened the door of a Beltway think tank are pretty sure that Muslim leaders do not offer balloon animals and lollipops to apostates from their faith, or host birthday parties for them down at Dairy Queen.

SO HAS ANYONE ASKED Tony Snow whether people in the president's inner circle learned lessons from the life of Mohammed, or the etymology of the word "assassin"? Those are leading questions, to be sure, but they're scrupulously nonpartisan as well.

Source

#256 BabbaZee 11/16/2006 05:54AM PST

#253 Elric66
Yea, GOD forbid anyone should seek and attain knowledge that hasn't been put through the mastication bullshiticus machine of the MSM... like my moonbat inlaws who think I am woefully undereducated because I don't read the NYT and Time mag or watch TV.

[spit]

Translation: You havent been brainwashed by the leftist agenda. :-)

Did you catch Glenn Beck last night? I have it recorded but havent seen it. Rush interviewed him and Rush seems to get the threat. He just needs to educate his listeners.

257 BZ There's one in our town with the original lime green paint. Old ladies drive it.

Out for now.

BTW I am sick of people who want to degrade the bible to me without ever having read it.

If my ignorant moonbat inlaws want to make snide under the breath bible thumper comments next week they are gonna get thumped with the biggest heaviest King James I have.

NOW I'm a frikkin thumper, assholes.

18 pounds of King James, how's that feel?

Have some frikkin yams.

#248 BabbaZee

Making booze is not easy: still, yeast, sugar, et cet.. And, it must be done in a remote area to keep out the revenooers [sic]. Also, careful watch must be taken to keep out impurities which could kill the user. It's labor intensive, as is tobacco.

I planted some seeds in one of my mother's in-door plants when I was a teen just to see what would happen. She has a green thumb and those plants took off really quickly. Unlike cocaine and heroin, it can be a strictly domestic product. In fact, the best pot I've ever smoked was grown exclusively in Seattle.

I do wonder about the tales I've heard regarding corrupt DEA agents who make a tidy sum looking the other way when it comes to smuggling stuff into the states.

Good Morning, All.

What's the good word?

#263 Ojoe 11/16/2006 06:00AM PST

257 BZ There's one in our town with the original lime green paint. Old ladies drive it.

Out for now.

GO DART!

#265 MandyManners
They should have implemented my "Lets Roll" war plan in 2001.
Alas they did not.

# 247 WWtW

When in college, a bud of mine (whom I still hear from) had a 59 VW pick-up truck, which was the bus with the back chopped off into a bed. Had that 36 HP engine. And this was in the fold belt of the Appalachians. So when you went west from B-burg over Brush Mountain, it was put it in second, get comfy, and open a beer, because this getting to the top stuff was going to take a while.

#264 BabbaZee 11/16/2006 06:01AM PST
BTW I am sick of people who want to degrade the bible to me without ever having read it.

If my ignorant moonbat inlaws want to make snide under the breath bible thumper comments next week they are gonna get thumped with the biggest heaviest King James I have.

NOW I'm a frikkin thumper, assholes.

18 pounds of King James, how's that feel?

Have some frikkin yams.

Better yet BZ, thump them with quotes from the Qur'an. :-)

{Babba}!

18 pounds of King James, how's that feel?

Have some frikkin yams.

LOL!

#262 Elric66
No I didn't watch it. I figured I'd read the thread, LOL.

I have also never heard Rush's show - or any talk radio

/ducks

President Carter Could Lead U.N. Investigation of Israel
By BENNY AVNI
Staff Reporter of the Sun
November 16, 2006

UNITED NATIONS — As Palestinian Arab rockets struck two Israeli towns yesterday, U.N. bodies prepared to launch no fewer than two overlapping "fact-finding" missions to second-guess Israel's anti-terrorist tactics. President Carter could head one of those missions...

Source
Go away, Jhimmi!

I think there are qualitative differences between the effects of herb vs. alcohol, tobacco, etc. Namely, under regulated amounts of alcohol and tobacco the effects on the person can be negligible, often subtly dampening the person's reactions (in normal cases) but in no way that would be dangerous. I would have no problem if an airline pilots has a cigarette or one drink before flying. It is a different case with herbs. The effects of herbs are powerful and psychotropic, they alter the person's mental perception and even in small amounts can have a dramatic effect on the person in normal usage.