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By: Charles Johnson • Nov 18, 2006 at 8:18 am PST

A Daily Kos diary by “pacified” demonstrates once again that patriotism and compassion for which the Kidz are justly famous: Daily Kos: Mercenaries: Screw ’em. (Hat tip: cr.)

Just the latest tragedy in Iraq:

BAGHDAD, Iraq - British soldiers backed by U.S. military helicopters battled insurgents near the Kuwaiti border Friday, close to where a private security team of four Americans and an Austrian were kidnapped. A top police official said a criminal gang had snatched the men and demanded ransom.
Private security team? Is that straight from the PR materials?

Let’s not mince words and call these people exactly what they are: Mercenaries.

They represent the Bush agenda of privatizing our military—a policy the Democrats must forcefully reject and reverse in the new Congress. We need to show the American people just how disgusting these profiteers—focusing especially on those who run these companies—have been, and how destructive they are to the military as a whole.

The American people will reject this and hold the Republicans to blame. No one likes a profiteer. Democrats just have to make sure they American people do find out—and we’ll be here to help out.

So what can the Dems do? Dunno. But Jack Murtha has the purse strings, I heard. Maybe we could defund the private contracts, and call them out explicitly in authorization bills. Maybe we could draft legislation specifically forbidden the current and future privatization of certain functions in the military. Let Bush veto it.

Because Americans will not support this if they know what’s going on. You don’t out source war.

The GOP likes to attack Kos for his comment saying “Screw Them”, but Kos was right then (in the comments). And he’s still right now.

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1 shug  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:20:25am

Hey KosKids,

How about becoming human shields in Baghdad?

2 Chicken Kiev  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:21:04am

I'm ashamed that such a person is an American.

3 Globular Cluster  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:21:10am

Don't forget, Kos supports our troops -- stop questioning his patriotism.

4 BabbaZee  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:21:19am

Yea well screw YOU, KOS and every one who non-thinks like you...
all you hordes of pamphlet taking whores of the covenant of death.
Kneel before your Islamic masters.

5 lawhawk  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:21:34am

The Freshmaker has a problem on his hands. Actually its the Democrats who have garnered support from Kos and his ilk who have the problem. They've got to distance themselves from the nutroots and that's not going to go over well with the nutbars. Not.At.All.

So, I'd say that the Freshmaker is screwed. Again.

6 T. Jefferson  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:21:47am

As usual the left needs somebody to hate.

7 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:22:18am

Can someone translate this?

The American people will reject this and hold the Republicans to blame. No one likes a profiteer. Democrats just have to make sure they American people do find out—and we’ll be here to help out.

8 mbpaul  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:22:22am

Can I question their patriotism? Can I? Can I? Huh.

9 Chicken Kiev  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:22:43am

I mean I'm ashamed to share a nationality with such a person as this Kos poster. That our great country could spawn such traitorous psychosis is a sad reflection on what has happened to our schools these last thirty years.

10 shug  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:23:48am

Remember, Kos has all the power!

After All, Senator-elect Lamont owes all his recent successes to the KosKiddies


/snicker

11 Chicken Kiev  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:25:07am

These people will be standing by the sides of the road applauding as the Iranian bombs drop on NYC or Tel Aviv or DC. Applaud, applaud, clap, clap, hooray my Islamic friends, isn't it great that we can all hate Bush and America together, hooray, hoo ... gasp. Choke. Gag. What th--?

Plunk.

12 shug  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:25:24am
#7 JammieWearingFool
Can someone translate this?

The American people will reject this and hold the Republicans to blame. No one likes a profiteer. Democrats just have to make sure they American people do find out—and we’ll be here to help out.



sure dude.
It's like, Bush is like Hitler.
Progressives are like Kewl.

and the last bit has something to do with Walmart

13 xenophobic  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:25:41am

Because Americans will not support this if they know whats going on. You dont out source war.

So is this guy supporting more troops out their to secure the supply lines? I love when people that have no clue about the Military start talking -- outsourced security is securing the U.S supply lines and freeing up the military escorts, by escorting equipment, food and fuel in and out of Iraq. Insurgents target supply lines, just like we target theirs, they're vital.

14 NoSubmission  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:25:45am
They represent the Bush agenda of privatizing our military—a policy the Democrats must forcefully reject and reverse in the new Congress.

Our?

Makes me sick to think of the United States military fighting to protect these KOS clowns.

15 Hannibal Smith  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:27:49am

I like how he pretends to care about the actual military, just not the private contractors. Sure, dude.

16 rabidsquirrel  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:30:34am
The Iraqis that these mercenaries kill...also have wives and children. The Iraqis that these mercenaries kill are also poor and uneducated.

Ok, I get it. The "mercenaries", who generally tend to be former military, are therefore bloodthirsty, and, by virtue of having served in the military, are also uneducated and poor. It's a good thing 'Kos diarists aren't given to hyperbole and stereotyping.

/need I?

17 viahj  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:33:15am
No one likes a profiteer.

well that just about sums it up. anti-capitalist socialist talk.

i don't get it myself. these people have been contracted to do a very dangerous job and most of them are ex-military, why does that make them evil? ...oh wait...maybe that's it. these guys are ex-military and they are profiting from this war! it's the whole bushchimpyhaliburtoncheneyco thing.

i do conceed that Bush should have had more troops over there reducing the need for some of the contractors.

18 just another infidel  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:33:57am

Kos kids are mentally unstable, to say the least. They would rather have a draft instituted and send thousands of unwilling participants into a war zone (I assume to defend the bad guys, see France in Lebanon) then an all volunteer military comprised of motivated volunteers defending innocent people from a bunch of sand pirates.

19 Pooh  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:34:21am

Oh, Good writes:

"Frankly, if you called for the deaths-by-hanging of the corporate CEO's, I'd find that much less repugnant."

I know who deserves to die here and it ain't the corporate CEOs.

Send the anti-Semite Markos Moulitsas Zúniga back to El Salvador

20 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:36:02am

Poll results...

Mercenaries

Screw 'em 57%

But they're people too! 24%

Pie 18%


Only 24% of Koskidz recognize their fellow Americans as humans. Sad.

21 "Oh no...Sand People!"  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:36:16am
You don’t out source war.

...because then if they die they might be other nationality's and not Americans and we wont be as elated...we're patriotic...uh yeah.

/lib POS's...

22 Spiny Norman  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:38:04am

If the US military were providing security for private contractors in Iraq, the Kostards would be even more outraged. They're just infantile assholes throwing (another) temper tantrum in the check-out line.

Screw them.

23 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:39:08am

The Kos Kidz were assholes then, and the Kos Kidz are assholes now.

24 TimeQuake  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:40:09am

test

25 Spiny Norman  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:43:03am

And yet, the REAL mercenaries, the jihadibots held at Gitmo, are the most important people in the world to them, because... because... their Constitutionally-guaranteed civil rights are being violated by the Bu$hitler each and every day!

26 kaymad  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:43:12am

I just had a head rush, blood flowed to my head, things went black for a moment. I'd like the little SOB say this to my face. My 8 year old could take the little girly man. She took on a 10 year old bully last weekend, Kos wouldn't last a minute with HER, in her pink frilly sundress and white patten leather shoes (though I must speak to her about wearing white after labor day).

There is a reason why we have contractors, because the military has shrunk so much. My husband sacrifices just as much as many soldiers. Some of my husbands fellow contractors are a lawyer, a professor of Arab studies and former special forces. It's his expertise that got him the job as a contractor. It's why we don't have a draft. He frees up soldiers to go do a different, even harder job.

We had contractors in Vietnam, my sister's father-n-law was one of them. It isn't anything new nor earth shattering.

27 LoneSome Journey  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:44:36am

kos kids could be worried that stupidity strikes at random intervals. But they have no worry, as their stupidity is attained by their own efforts and means.

28 rabidsquirrel  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:47:33am

#1 shug:


Hey KosKids,

How about becoming human shields in Baghdad?

I think one actually has to be human to be a human shield.

29 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:48:03am

Can we get some Diggs going on this one? 2500 folks online, are 200 diggs too much to ask?

30 xenophobic  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:48:49am

#28 rabidsquirrel
how about just a meat shield then?

31 Bill Amos  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:49:04am

Can still vote for your favorite obnoxious moonbat/foreign leader/democrat here

[Link: www.anklebitingpundits.com...]

Some votes still

Who is more obnoxious ?

Henry Waxman (2) 14%
Al Sharpton (12) 86%

Jimmy Carter (10) 59%
Ted Kennedy (7) 41%

Al Gore (10) 62%
John Murtha (6) 38%

Hillary Clinton (9) 53%
John Kerry (8) 47%

Micheal Moore (16) 100%
Madonna (0) 0%

Sean Penn (2) 12%
Cindy Sheehan (14) 88

Rosie O Donnell (15) 88%
Barbara Streisand (2) 12%

Jane Fonda (9) 60%
Baldwin Brothers (6) 40%

Osama Bin Laden (10) 67%
Nasrallah (5) 33%

Fidel Castro (3) 20%
Saddam Hussien (12) 80%

Ahmadinejad (11) 73%
Kim Jong Il (4) 27%

Hugo Chavez (5) 33%
Kofi Annan (10) 67%

Al Franken (13) 100%
Eleanor Clift (0) 0%

Markos Zuniga (6) 43%
Bil Mahir (8) 57%

Ted Rall (5) 38%
Keith Obermann (8) 62%

Helen Thomas (6) 40%
Dan Rather (9) 60%

32 ToxMan  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:49:07am

mercenaries = truck drivers, working under contract for support services, maybe carrying guns for their own protection...

/not in my dictionary

33 mjk  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:51:42am

1. "You don't outsource a war" - Um, sweetie. The military isn't like a corporation who outsources things they don't handle to another company.

2. "Profiteers" - Okay, what do you call Michael Moore who made money off the backs and blood of the US military? I call him a profiteer.


This little rant clearly comes from somebody who's never been to the Middle East. Most of those countries "over there" barely know how to use a toilet or dumpster, much less organize and run a representative government*. They would kill you on a dime for making fun of the Koran or having sex with someone of the same sex. Or being Jewish or Christian or something else they don't like. The Middle East is not America - it runs on a vastly different sets of ideals than the ones America runs on.

*Note: Israel doesn't actually count in this whole rant. We're talking about the Arab countries.

34 realwest  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:53:33am

Well at least they're consistently stupid and have lost any sense of humanity they might have had.
Thanks Markos.

35 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:53:35am
36 Jack Burton  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:54:01am

These fucking people disgust me.

I guess I have two main points:

One, the private contractors are doing the job that our military can't because of drastic reductions in troop strength during guess who's presidency. That's right, we have private contractors because because the molester in chief cut our military in half. Also, our military, and we never learn this lesson, is for fighting, not peacekeeping and not nation building.

Two, I have a buddy over there doing "mercenary" work and most of the time he's guarding elected Iraqi government officials. So he's protecting the people who were elected by the people of Iraq, which sounds reasonable noble to me.

I know this plays into those pansies attitudes, but if I could find the sack of shit that wrote that I'd like to beat his ass with a baseball bat and then leave him tied up at the front gate of Blackwater with a sign tied to him that says "I hate security contractors and hope you die".

37 rabidsquirrel  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:54:16am

#30 xenophobic:

#28 rabidsquirrel
how about just a meat shield then?

Well, sure, as long as they're not made of pork. Wouldn't want to offend the terrorists they're trying to protect.

38 Hucbald  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 6:54:47am

#1 shug

The Kosacks are shields: Panty shields.

39 SkyeChild  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:00:03am

How does one "defund" a PRIVATE organization? So is he advocating now that the government dictate to private organizations?

40 BabbaZee  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:02:00am

#39 SkyeChild 11/18/2006 09:00AM PST

How does one "defund" a PRIVATE organization? So is he advocating now that the government dictate to private organizations?

DING DING DING DING

Welcome to the Brave New World of the
Dhimmicrat Marxist Whores.

A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful
executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of
slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.
~ Aldous Huxley, Brave New World

41 ProUSA  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:02:32am
#7 JammieWearingFool 11/18/2006 08:22AM PST
Can someone translate this?



Sure. Translation: I am a socialist moron. I hate Bush, and Bush and corporations are the cause of all problems. Hey! The line is moving again, I just know I'll be getting my $600 Play Station 3 soon!

42 Capt_Faust  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:02:34am

After personally dealing with many “MERCENARYS” of American origin, I have no problem supporting them…I love the fact that when they get killed most of these former military (the ones I met were ex-SF) get a preverbal spit on their corpses from these KOS and other radical left wing wusses…it makes me sick.

Don’t worry, if Red Dawn (or Red Cresset Dawn) ever happens, I’ll make sure that I’ll push these lowlifes into the cross fire. Oops, did I say that…I meant I hope they don’t accidentally wander into my field of fire…I mean if these scum bags come running to me and my guns for help, I might give them a quick one fingered salute, and tell them to kindly go ask our enemy…after all, at that stage I’d be a mercenary, due to the fact I am not technically affiliated with the US military.

43 xenophobic  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:03:41am

#39 SkyeChild
If I was to guess, by removing companies like Blackwater, Inc. from the Government approved contractor lists, or restricting the budget given to the Pentagon for paying private contractors -- and that's just off the top of my head.

44 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:06:09am

I'm glad they have their priorities straight:

Frankly, if you called for the deaths-by-hanging of the corporate CEO's, I'd find that much less repugnant. But it's rather callous of you to say such things about civilians who will likely lose their lives in a horrible manner because you disagree with the business that employs them.
45 attaboid  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:07:02am

Idiots.

46 Bill Amos  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:07:03am

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]


Kidnapping of Americans Linked to al Sadr

Four Contractors Taken Prisoner When Convoy Was Ambushed, Military Officials Say

WASHINGTON, Nov. 17, 2006 — A senior Defense Department official told ABC News that Shiite militiamen tied to anti-American cleric Moqtada al Sadr were behind the abduction of four American security contractors and an Austrian co-worker seized in a brazen attack on a supply convoy near the southern Iraqi city of Basra.
of any kind from the hijackers.

47 Capt_Faust  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:07:34am

#39 SkyeChild

DING DING DING DING...Now comes the socialism we all know and love! Let us all embrace the party with open arms SPIT

I’ll embrace it, with the barrel of a rifle pointed at the commissar’s face…in which I’ll kindly ask him to leave…

48 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:07:37am

#40 BabbaZee

I'm so glad I'm an Alpha.

49 FireFireFire  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:08:49am

"You don’t out source war."

Unless of course you have to because pussies like the kkkos kkkids are too skkkeeered to join up and shoulder a weapon.
But why should kkkos kkkids fight for something they don't believe in? They don't fight for anything because they believe in NOTHING!

-you never need a firearm, until you need it BADLY!-

50 RadicalRon  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:09:54am

Komrade Kos says he's an Army vet (non-combat).

He can lead the kidz of the Kooky Kult of Koslam to Baghdad and Kabul so they can show the RoP that they're the Mercenaries of Peace & Love.

Who would get beheaded first: Komrade Kos, Atrios, or trusty lapdog mcjoan?

51 HeatherRadish  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:13:24am

Sensitive. Tolerant. Loving.

*vomit*

52 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:15:01am

From Digg...
Conservative blog encourages Digg use- their membership remains closed

A recent headline at littlegreenfootballs.com encourages conservatives to use digg.com. Pathetically, their own membership is currently closed to new registrations. A survey of posts at LGF shows an absolute right-wing bias. What are they afraid of?


Anyone alse want to respond?

53 The Other Les  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:16:33am

I'd say something about this but I would be advocating violence in doing so.

54 LiveFreeOrDie  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:16:50am

Apparently, private security is horrible.

Unless its Feinstein's entourage wielding high power weapons while working to take guns away from law abiding citizens.

I'm not actually a fan of private security forces. My problem with it has nothing to do with the individuals right to keep and bear arms.

However, I'm not tasked with lifting into place parts of a civil backbone within a war zone. If I was, you can bet I would want armed security under my control.

I suppose Kos would prefer that the American military come under the direct jurisdiction of a private corporation? What a maroon.

55 pegcity  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:17:12am

odd he didnt mention jews or israel once.

56 BabbaZee  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:18:38am

#48 Who Watches the Watchmen?
;~P

57 HeatherRadish  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:21:19am
Because Americans will not support this if they know what’s going on.

This segues nicely into a commercial I just saw on Milwaukee public television (I know, I know...I was watching a thing on the Zeigfield Follies) for a special called "War In Iraq: Through Photographers' Eyes." The voiceover said "The pictures are real and brutal, and if Americans had seen them, we wouldn't think the same way about the war."

I'm going to assume that the pictures are not of rape rooms, mass graves, purple fingers, children playing, etc., but are carefully selected to make the U.S. and our soldiers look like assholes.

Have any of you seen this on your local public TV? Is my assessment accurate?

58 pat  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:21:37am

#52 Killgore Trout

Hahahahaha

59 HeatherRadish  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:23:47am

#50 RadicalRon

Komrade Kos says he's an Army vet (non-combat).

Does he say which army? GI Joe in the sandbox?

60 Bill Amos  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:24:31am

OT for fun (and to get a break from moonbattery)

Here is a male oreinted Fox news babes poll

[Link: billbobruce.freepolls.com...]

Can see all the Fox babes here

[Link: www.yourgeorgia.net...]

61 realwest  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:26:36am

#57 HeatherRadish - haven't seen it, but "I'm going to assume that the pictures are not of rape rooms, mass graves, purple fingers, children playing, etc., but are carefully selected to make the U.S. and our soldiers look like assholes." seems like a VERY safe bet to me.
Oh, and BTW, someone should tell them ('cause they obviously don't know)that ""The pictures are real and brutal,..." probably because war is real and brutal.
They ought to see photos from our Civil War or some of the things I personally witnessed in Vietnam.

62 N. O'Brain  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:33:27am

What a bunch of unpatriotic, foolish, terrorist enabling assclowns.

63 N. O'Brain  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:35:03am

"#50 RadicalRon


Komrade Kos says he's an Army vet (non-combat)."

Did he try to re-enlist after 911?

If not, he's a chickenjihaddi.

64 abolitionist  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:36:25am
No one likes a profiteer.

Just about sums up the liberal agenda, doesn't it. Hate hate hate the kids that mowed lawns, the babysitters, kids who delivered newpaperes, who delivered groceries to families without transportation, and went running to the ice cream truck when it it passed thru the neighborhood. And they all did it for MONEY --the root of all evil.

And that mean old ice cream truck driver wouldn't just GIVE me any ice cream. Waaahhh.

Is that about right, Markos?

65 TimeQuake  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:37:25am

#52 Killgore Trout

Thx for already responding to the Kos nuts.

Hey, do you know of a book called "Venus on a Half Shell" (I think that's the title, have a copy but still boxed up), taken off the market cuz Vonnegut protested it, written by Kilgore Trout. LOL

66 HeatherRadish  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:39:25am

War In Iraq: Through Photographers' Eyes: A Google search has turned up some torrents of the show; I don't have the stomach for war photos this morning, but I'll send this along to Charles...

*sigh*

67 Right Side  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:46:20am

I'll grant the KOSsacks one point: The use of private contractors in Iraq has been a mixed blessing.

As I understand it, these private contractors are not bound to obey U.S. military rules of engagement. And so they have been known to use indiscriminate and even brutal force, which is contrary to the Bush policy of trying to win the Iraqis' "hearts and minds."

Whether we should be trying to win "hearts and minds" at all is worth debating. But as long as that's the policy, the private contractors should be required to carry out that same policy.

68 rightwinger3  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:51:32am

#14 No Submission

Makes me sick to think of the United States military fighting to protect these KOS clowns.

By extension, yes. On purpose, f*ck no. I can almost guarantee you any of my Marines would... (add your own ending, mine wouldn't be fit to post)

69 realwest  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:53:13am

#52 Killgore Trout - OK, I registered and all but couldn't find the story so I could comment on it.
Where the hell is it on Digg?

70 Wind Rider  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 7:59:01am

Well, speaking as one of those profiteering mercenaries, I'd have to say there is one aspect of being in such a position that is most heartwarming at times like these.

It's this: If I were still in the military, someone just might order me to protect, directly, the sorry sack of shit, aka Marcos Moulitsas Zuniga, and I'd be under a legal obligation to do so.

As a scum sucking, low life, money-for-services rendered mercenary working for a private comapny with a contractual arrangement with the DoD, I can look anyone silly enough to tell me to do such a thing, say no, and walk away to leave young Marcos to his fate, with no second thoughts or additional repurcussions. And in such an instance, probably s slight grin on my face as the jihadis got their mitts on him.

So, Marcos, screw me?

Nah, screw you.

71 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:04:35am

#65 TimeQuake
I had always heard that Vonnegut didn't give permission for that to be written but Wikipedia says different...

Venus on the Half-Shell

Farmer liked the idea of actually writing one of Trout's fictional works and got permission from Vonnegut to do so.


It's been a long time, my copy of it is buried in a box somewhere too.

72 realwest  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:08:31am

#71 Killgore Trout - Hey my friend, please see my
#69 above!

73 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:09:54am

#69 realwest
Now that you're registered you can just reclick my link at #52 and it should take you right there. Also don't forget to click the Digg link under Charles' post at the top of this thread.

Digg is a really unorganized site it's tough to find things sometimes.

74 Don Miguel  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:09:56am

Would it be impolite for me to point out that for those Kos Kidz who actually work and get paid (however few that may be) are, in effect, mercenaries? Are they going to take this to the logical conclusion that soldiers, since they are paid, are in fact mercenaries?

75 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:14:28am

#72 realwest
I also added this to my bookmarks, it makes it easy to go through and digg all the LGF stuff. We aren't doing very well, most LGF threads are only getting 10 or so diggs.

76 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:16:38am

.

Kos was right then . And he’s still right now

And I was right then and I am right now to say

SCREW YOU.

Honor to the American Warriors !

77 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:20:20am

YESTERDAY, at 9.07 AM Pacific
I posted this:

"Wait for the

SCREW THEM

by the kossacks.

These are Private Security pros.
Our prayers for them."

I must be some kind of Prophet (Joy, Knowledge, Peace, P[deleted], Rum and Lots of Money Be with Me).

78 Dianna  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:23:18am

Considering that the current crop of kidnapped private security people were guarding the convoy of a Kuwaiti company (according to the first story I read on this), I must ask precisely how the diarist proposes to have congress interfere?

79 wong fei hung  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:26:25am

Kos likes to call the contractors mercenaries.

However, is he not a "mercenary" himself?

We all know about Markos' political aspirations; fittingly he sells himself quite well and really puts his ass out for the party line.

Come to think of it, I've got a better word to identify Markos than "mercenary".

How about...

PROSTITUTE

80 Dianna  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:28:15am

Oh, from yesterday morning's thread on this topic, comment #69 by Shiplord Kirel:


Left conformists have an especially strong motive for demonizing contractors. In many cases, the contractors do not depend on US government funds and they could continue their work even if the Dem Congress shuts off funding for the war.
Unlike the government of South Vietnam, the Malaki government and other anti-fascist forces in Iraq have their own money. Malaki would have to find a way to keep his cronies from stealing so much of it, but with his neck on the line (literally) he may be able to do that.
This would threaten to derail the pop-left's cherished dream of repeating their 1975 Vietnam triumph.
It wouldn't be easy but some Americans would fight on even in the event of a 1975 style betrayal. A Kucinich style cut-off would not automatically result in a complete debacle unless the leftists and Democrats can find a way to keep American from continuing the war as private citizens. That is where the Kos propaganda line comes in. Demonizing these contractors will make it easier for pro-terror forces to sell a congressional ban on security contracting in Iraq.

Also, a couple of his other comments, on the same thread. He's spot-on.

81 wong fei hung  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:30:18am

PS: If anyone gets Markos the PROSTITUTE for Secret Santa, he would like:

1.) a new pair of fishnet stockings - his last John (was it Edwards or Kerry? Or both?) tore his up.

2.) a new prescription for Penicillin. Damn that clap.

3.) a sweater to keep him warm while he pimps his tushy on the corner of the Arab Street.

82 Dianna  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:37:57am

#81 wong

I don't like Markos Zunega either.

But those images are just ugly and unnecessary. Do you really want to think that way?

83 realwest  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:48:59am

#73 Killgore Trout - done and done. Thanks my friend!

84 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:54:53am

#83 realwest
I just gave your comment a "digg". The rating system thing is silly (yet fun). I feel like a Koskid.

85 bubbasbbq  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:59:04am

Markos would look real good wearing that Burqa while he services his Arab masters if it were't for the very soldiers he slanders. These rantings just show what a phoney juvenile weak thinking self loathing little boy he really is. the very flower of the "enlightened", "diversity embracing" "open minded" liberals.

86 wong fei hung  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 9:03:10am

#82 Dianna

Sorry to offend, but if the shoe fits...

I'm not a misogynist, but I call it as I see it.

With all due respect, the images of beheadings and beatings perpetrated by some of Kos' ideological counterparts are FAR more offensive than my "poetry".

87 Dianna  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 9:07:52am

#86 wong

Sigh.

Never mind.

88 odhran  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 9:25:14am

My question is, "Why is al Sadr still breating?"

89 odhran  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 9:27:24am

My next question is, "Why is he still breathing?"

90 j-damn  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 9:46:20am

I can't wait for the day Kos's charred torso is hanging from a bridge/lamppost/whatever.

When that day comes, drinks are on me.

91 Tairos  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 9:53:13am

#67
I'd always suspected that was possible, but I didn't know for sure. You may not like it, but I don't share your view. I'll bet the savages don't screw with them as much after a few brutal demonstrations.

92 Abdullah al-Libi  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 10:01:59am

What a piece of sh*t. I hope he treats the private guards in stores just as poorly - then maybe they'll let him get his *ss kicked in the parking lot.

A MERCENARY is fundamentally different from a private security guard. I don't see how any person of sound mind could say that a private security guard is the same as a soldier for hire. By this moron's definition P-Diddy's entourage is a group of mercs.

What the F does this pr*ck mean by "profiteer"? If the creeps in Iraq weren't busy head-chopping then private guards wouldn't even be necessary.

93 Catttt  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 10:29:24am

I sense that Kossites' aversion to (let alone misunderstanding and misapplication of) the word "mercenary" (and never mind that most speculative posts on Kos about the military resemble staw dogs) will mean they won't give a listen to Danish band Mercenary (who are a really excellent death/melodeath band).

Firesoul

/I just couldn't resist, but hey - they are really good - and they're DANISH.

94 BabbaZee  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 10:33:30am

...oy and vey x pi squared divided by eleven-dee-leven, death metal is not for me, LOL

Here's my speed of metal, call it Life Metal, LOLOLOLOL

95 refugee1  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 10:38:34am

From Tech Support at The Other Side of Kim:

The story starts with "David", a friend of the Du Toit's, moving to a state that allows him to buy a gun. After fulfilling that responsibility:

He’d also had some concerns about the war effort. He was having the moral quandary about serving, and seriously thinking that he should join the service. These, too, became the subjects of email exchanges.

Without giving too much away, the nature of his work meant that he could do more good as a civilian. Considering his age and marital status, “joining up” was not in his, his family, or the country’s best interests.

When an opportunity to go to Iraq presented itself within his company, however, David volunteered. Without giving away too much, this civilian went to Iraq (TWICE!). He was involved in a fire fight on his first visit and suffered a minor wound, and got in a serious fire fight on the second visit that left him severely wounded. He’s recovering, but has an injury that he will carry for the rest of his life.

He’s never complained. He’s never asked for recognition and he’s been reluctant to share these details with us for fear he’ll appear as if he’s whining or boasting.

Yeah, fuck this goddamn murdering mercenary. How dare he defend his family, his country, his way of life, without wearing an official UN-approved jack-booted-thug uniform? (So unlike our opponents in this pointless game, who themselves are scrupulous Honorary Citizens of Geneva, and who would never, ever, accept money for their pious worship of Allah, or allow their families to do so in the event of their deaths.)

Of course, this self-serving killer for hire continued to be a hero oppress the poor and disenfranchised even after his return to the Imperialistic States of Amerika. But you'll have to read the whole thing to find out about that.

Not that I encourage anyone to contaminate their minds with that sort of rabid wingnut propaganda, of course.

96 Catttt  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 10:49:46am

94 BabbaZee

I have broad, catholic tastes in music, to say the least. Mercenary is just so damn good - plus they are Danish, God bless 'em.

Did you make it past the opening, which is rather (ahem) harsh? They are melodic - trust me.

97 BabbaZee  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 11:01:06am

#96 Cattt
I hate that shit, as much as I hate rap, I couldn't get past the first 30 seconds...

98 inrussetshadows  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 11:09:43am

Frontpage just featured a book review about war zone contractors. It disputes some of the myths about them, here.

99 Catttt  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 11:46:49am
97 BabbaZee 197
I couldn't get past the first 30 seconds...



Ah HA.

/;)

100 Catttt  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 12:57:55pm

Oddest comment (or up there) I've seen lately (from the Kos thread, of course):

Soldiers hate mercenaries for the same reason women hate whores. The thngs they do should only be done for love, not for money.

Hire out as a private mercenary if you want, but don't expect us to put the precious lives of American soldiers on the line to bail you out if things go wrong.

by timoth31 on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 06:40:07 PM PST

Never mind the actual point he was trying to make - his simile is twisted, sexist, and presumptuous. This poster seems to think that all sex workers are female, that it is fine to call them "whores," that all women hate them, and by omission, inferentially, that only women hate them. No. No. No. No.

101 guitarchas  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 3:06:26pm

Not all contractors are mercs. A coworker of mine was beheaded in Iraq. He was a civilian tech on the AH-64. His only crime was not enough contractor security.

102 Boazhorribilis  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 4:17:47pm

Am I hearing that we might just have to commit more seriously to the war effort (so that private outsourcing would not be necessary) once war is declared? Pinky almost succeded making sense.

103 mattm  Sat, Nov 18, 2006 5:54:02pm

I wonder if it suports the troops? I would guess no.

104 ratman  Sun, Nov 19, 2006 1:19:28am
So what can the Dems do? Dunno.

Neither do I.

105 PoundYen  Sun, Nov 19, 2006 1:16:51pm

#96

I sense that Kossites' aversion to (let alone misunderstanding and misapplication of) the word "mercenary" (and never mind that most speculative posts on Kos about the military resemble staw dogs) will mean they won't give a listen to Danish band Mercenary (who are a really excellent death/melodeath band).


I thought I would respond to this for my first post here. I recently saw Mercenary live in Atlanta, Ga. They put on a hell of a show and were also really cool, down to earth guys as well, and always took time to chat with all of the fans who approached them.

106 Pickle  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:22:07am

They can slice and dice it however they want, but this entry and the vile comments that follow it prove that Daily Kos and the nutroots it represents wants Americans to die. Period, end of story.


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