I see God --or Goddess, depending on your preferences.

"Sunday Night Cloud" -- but it's a daytime cloud! Don't confuse us.

I can see a unicorn...and a supertanker...and Mohammed...

I've never see the L.A. sky looking so blue!

The days of '70s and '80s smog are over.

zombie, are you doing a synchronistic PHP mind-meld with Charles again?

zombie

It was cold today... low 60's...

most gorgeous skies when that happens.

New zombietime report, for those that missed it:

The Lafayette Mock War Memorial

A moonbat blogger is already whining about my coverage:

Lafayette Crosses: Attack of the Wingnuts

#5 religion of bacon
zombie, are you doing a synchronistic PHP mind-meld with Charles again?

Us Vulcans have that uncanny ability.

Zombie is up late.

BTW

Jonathan Chait writing for the LATimes today says outloud, and without apology, the one line all those "anti-war" idiots swore they weren't for... "Bring Back Saddam"

Maybe, just maybe, our best option is to restore Saddam Hussein to power. [...]

Restoring the expectation of order in Iraq will take some kind of large-scale psychological shock. The Iraqi elections were expected to offer that shock, but they didn't. The return of Saddam Hussein — a man every Iraqi knows, and whom many of them fear — would do the trick.

The Dems are poised to take over and the leftists are no longer coy about their real agenda.

Zombie. I really detest these unpatriotic weirods. Nite

#6 Darleen
It was cold today... low 60's...

In the rest of the country, "low 60s" in late November counts as warm.

#9 pat
Zombie is up late.

10:46 pm on the West Coast -- not that late at all! I'm a night-owl anyway -- I'm just waking up!

#12 Zombie

LOL, you're right.

I was born in Los Angeles... it dips into the 50's and 60's and I'm all about the sweaters, coats and scarves! Thin blood!

Zombie owns this thread

#10 Darleen
Jonathan Chait writing for the LATimes today says outloud, and without apology, the one line all those "anti-war" idiots swore they weren't for... "Bring Back Saddam"
...
The Dems are poised to take over and the leftists are no longer coy about their real agenda.

Looks like the Gloria La Riva faction has taken over the Democratic Party.

Beyond unbelievable.

I think the shock that will calm Iraq down is HANGING Saddam. I'm sure a great deal of the Sunnis imagine they are going to free him from jail and re-install him, and that's what inspires them to keep fighting.

Here is a sad story. Iranian Guard eats shit again in another air crash. No doubt because Bush failed to send them spare parts for their Russian aircraft.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

#15 ASD
Zombie owns this thread

That'll be $5 rent for that comment space! Payable in cash only, please.

I'm here on sublet from Darleen, She owes you.

Shit! Castro had a birthday today and did not show. What a surprise!

#17 pat:

- Iranian state television reported Monday that a plane crashed in Tehran, killing 28 members of the elite Revolutionary Guard, including high-ranking officers.

The plane crashed shortly after taking off from an airport in Tehran, the report said. It did not specify when the crash occurred or give further information about those killed.

Sounds more likely that it was shot down by a SAM launched by some mysterious insurgent group. Whoever they are, they can't be worse than the current leadership, so I say more power to 'em!

So beautiful, clouds.

I just love them up against the blue, blue sky.

Nice pic, Charles.

Thanks for putting up something nice for me to see right before I retire to my cave...

~Norsk Troll

Maybe -- just maybe -- it was a CIA hit on the Revolutionary Guard. That'd be nice. We can only hope.

Zombie, I'm sure Bush is at fault. BBC and AP will report as much in 5 4 3...

Nite

Sky

Dark, Iranian sky

#17 pat 11/26/2006 10:49PM PST

Here is a sad story. Iranian Guard eats shit again in another air crash. No doubt because Bush failed to send them spare parts for their Russian aircraft.

[Link: [Link: www.breitbart.com...]...]

Pat:

I've read the story and re-read it a couple of times, now.

Where is the sad part of the story?

?

~Norsk Troll

I think we have some exploding heads on the way.

Time magazine, while not yet mentioning 4, is starting to notice a 2 sitting next to another 2 with a plus sign in the middle.

Here from the Time article on the famous Iraqi CLERIC:

Dec. 4, 2006 issue - One way to understand Moqtada al-Sadr is to think of him as a young Mafia don. He aims for respectability, and is willing to kill for it. Yet the extent of his power isn't obvious to the untrained eye. He has no standing army or police force, and the Mahdi Army gunmen he employs have no tanks or aircraft. You could mistake him—at your peril—for a common thug or gang leader. And if he or his people were to kill you for your ignorance, he wouldn't claim credit. But the message would be clear to those who understand the brutal language of the Iraqi Street.

Ok, glad you told me because all along, I though he was a cleric which I though had a religious significance. But I suppose there are also the same share of Anamist and Quaker "Clerics" who could be mistaken for mafia dons.

#7 zombie

New zombietime report, for those that missed it:

The Lafayette Mock War Memorial

Good post... and good work getting under the disingenuous asswipe's skin.

C5 Supertanker
blocking the sun
Load of hurt
Your way comes

#27 Tokyobk

I think we have some exploding heads on the way.

Time magazine, while not yet mentioning 4, is starting to notice a 2 sitting next to another 2 with a plus sign in the middle.

Without actually saying so, the Lamestream Media is beginning to admit what they knew all along, but continuously obfuscated in order to get Democrats elected. Expect a great deal more of this in the months ahead.

#17 Pat
#21 zombie

Saddam liked helicopter crashes. Seems like the Iranians like airplane crashes, kinda hard on the smucks on the ground. I-am-on-a-jihad (aka dinnerjacket) while back took out a bunch of high ranking army types with a crash, army and rev. guard are at odds, and the rev. guard are I-am-on-a-jihads pretoria guard. Paybacks a bitch. Good 'ole power struggles in totalaritarian gov'ts, hard to keep track with our a score card.

Makes us look real boring, the best we can do is out gays and find congress critters on the take.

I think this is the sky someone sees when they're kicking back, looking up and realizing that in the grand scheme of things, they have it pretty good...

/also would've accepted 'summertime meteor shower'

Code put most everyone to bed... Zzzz

So far as religious and moral creations are concerned, they are overwhelmingly intuitional. They profess the revealed truth of faith; they are based almost exclusively upon the super-rational, supersensory, superempirical, Absolute Truth and Reality-God. All great religions are founded by mystics endowed with the charismatic gift of the mystic experience. Such are Buddha, Zoroaster, Lao-Tze, the Hebrew prophets, Mahavira, Mohammed, Christ, St. Paul, St. Augustine, down to the more recent mystics of Christian and other great religions. When some pseudo religion is started "scientifically," "rationally," based upon "reasonable, empirically verified truths," such psuedo religion never gets anywhere and represents at the best a third-class, vulgarized social and humanitarian philosophy or pseudo science.

...which takes us to Polonium, the new religion of the future.

#32 Fenway
Has anyone ever accused you of RAVING OPTIMISM?!

Clouds are what we need after that blood pressure raising protest thread. I have the ambuent electronica kicking, and am about to hit the sackeroo.

Thought of the night: Religion is what separates us from the animals.

#28 Spiny Norman
good work getting under the disingenuous asswipe's skin.

Here's a picture of him from tonight's candlelight vigil in the drizzle.

If there's one thing I hate almost as much as hypocrisy, it's smugness. And this guy's got both in spades.

#10 Darleen

Bring back Saddam?

Wait a sec...in the shrill, screeching histrionics I've been hearing from the anti-war types the past few years, they reassured us that Saddam was nothing special, a petty thug and dictators like him were a 'dime a dozen' in that part of the world. In that case, if he was a dime a dozen nothing special and had no hold on the Iraqi, wouldn't it be more prudent to wait for another 'dime a dozen' dictator to emerge and take his place?

/just sayin'

#35 cb

Has anyone ever accused you of RAVING OPTIMISM?!

Not since October 2004.

#38 Fenway

"Anti-war" types are either cluelessly naive or dishonest about their agenda.

#40 Darleen

You left out 'utter contempt for flyover/middle America'...or if they're located in flyover/mid-America, they yearn to be with the 'smart people' in Manhattan or San Francisco...

All great religions are founded by mystics endowed with the charismatic gift of the mystic experience. Such are Buddha, Zoroaster, Lao-Tze, the Hebrew prophets, Mahavira, Mohammed , Christ, St. Paul, St. Augustine

I'll have to take issue with your list. Mohammed was delusional.

And, to be completely frank, St. Paul is iffy too, at least in my book. He seems too pragmatic to have had a mystical experience.

Oct. 2004?

Suspension of Disbelief

[Link: www.portlandmercury.com...]

Four-leaf clovers...

Described as

the definition of irony right: a low waist wearing Lebanese chick with a tattoo above her buttocks draped in a Hezbollah flag.

here:

http://www.bigpharaoh.com/ (Nasrallah's chick)

zombie
Expert in mystical experiences? lol

I'm of the young generation, yes.
I'm listening to Elvis lol.

#37 zombie 11/26/2006 11:07PM PST

Here's a picture of him from tonight's candlelight vigil in the drizzle.

Shit. I wasn't authorized to view that page.

#46 MigueldowninMexico
zombie
Expert in mystical experiences? lol

No, but I've read plenty about St. Paul!

zombie
Ok! Did you read Taylor Caldwell's "The Lion of God"? I think that's the title in English. I read it in Spanish.

Zombie #49
pragmatical:
willing to see things as they really are and deal with them sensibly

zombie

Have you looked at Instapundit's Carnival of Cameras posts ? There may be a new digital still camera in the house this year and I'm soliciting thoughts. I know you've used one a lot.

From InstaPundit

DISSING THE TROOPS AGAIN: Charles Rangel pulls a John Kerry, and I don't think he'll be able to explain this as a "botched joke."

Karl Rove's prayer: Get this guy on TV as much as possible!

ROFL!

OT: Something nice for my fellow lizards, Goths doing traditional christmas songs. No, this isn't a joke nor meant as a funny, the renderings are lovely

[Link: www.projekt.com...]

Check the Love Spirals Downwards rendering of 'Welcome Xmas'

#50 MigueldowninMexico
Did you read Taylor Caldwell's "The Lion of God"?

No, I haven't red that one. Yet, at least!

#51 mjazzguitar
Maybe you should read something by St. Paul.

I've done that many times! In fact, it is his letters that gave me that impression, since they are so political and administrative. Like I said, he seemed very pragmatic, compared to the mystical Jesus. Accepting the books of the New Testament at face value, I could see how Jesus had mystical experiences, but Saul/Paul - - I'm not convinced.

Glenn Reynolds is all over!
It's a conspiracy!

Hey Jewels! Look at my #53 please ;)

zombie Addendum

I am particularly intruiged by this comment from part 2:

So what if it's only 6MP? I've got news for the camera manufacturers: Pixel stuffing is killing the industry. There's not a compact or point and shoot camera over 8MP I'd dirty my hands with. I wouldn't even own them for a paperweight, they're that bad. Image quality for compacts peaked at 7MP, and went downhill from there. Too many pixels on the sensor means too little light at each pixel site, which means too much noise in the image.

DSLR's are getting cheaper all the time. At the moment, almost every major lens manufacter out there has a compatible digital body. Given that DSLR sensors are 5 or more times larger than compact camera sensors, the consumer can expect DSLR pictures to be as much as 5 times better, particularly in terms of digital noise.

I've wondered about this myself for a while. The implication is that in digital, as with film, format matters.

Miguel: I know. And they haven't had two weeks in and look what they are doing :D

#52 Mike C.

I highly recommend the new Canons -- PowerShots, or fancier if you want. By far the most style, best quality, smallest size of any manufacturer.

Whatever you do, stay away from Sony cameras -- a Microsoftesque nightmare of proprietary hardware and software that will end up costing you more in the long run.

zombie
Excuse me, but it's a wrong idea to think that a muystic can not be a practical person. Several mystics have been very practical in the day-to-day sense of things.
Mysticism and pragmatism are not necessarily at odds.

Jewels
They haven't even begun! The are in until January.
Be happy, my friend, they are going to damage their public image soon, withh all their idiocies.

#52 Mike C.

I'd recommend the camera I now use, but for security reasons I can't reveal what it is!

Mike
You woke up so early today!

Jewels
The music was strange, but nice. Thanks for the link ;)

#65 miguel

I like the version of Welcome Christmas myself. different but pleasing to the ear

Yes, it's pleasing to the ear. Very sweet voices.

#58 Mike C

Lord yes, the SLR-style digital cameras are going to have a much cleaner and higher-resolution appearance in their photos, as compared to a pocket camera. It depends on what your priorities are. I need my "work" camera to be as small as possible, and ultra-high resolution is not so important, since it is for Web work. But if size and portability are not an issue to you, then by all means get a SLR-style camera. Canon makes some good ones, as does Nikon, or so I've heard. The quality will definitely be much higher, because the sensor is physically larger.

Miguel: currently three Excelsis christmas albums out from Projekt. All very nice

# 60 zombie

I had, in fact, come down to a choice between the Canon S3 IS and the Canon A 640. But then, I only looked at cameras made by long-standing makers of pro lenses (Canon, Nikon, Olympus.) I'm an old glass and film guy, and I wouldn't buy digital from a manufacturer who's film offerings I wouldn't consider.

I eliminated the SLRs immediately, because I would almost never actually haul that much weight and bulk around. That plus the minor fact that that would put me on the slippery slope to a Nikon D2X system, and that way lies bankruptcy.

I'm leaning more towards the S3 IS. Only 6 MP, as opposed to the A 640's 10 MP, but a more serious lens. And I could see myself setting the A 640 to half resolution to make file sizes more maneagable.

It was cold today... low 60's...

Cold? You want cold, try -24C (-11F) for a high and that doesn't include the windchill - that made it a balmy -34C.

I want global warming and I want it now.

Ok, that's good Jewels. The world nices good music. Uplifting music, like Christmas ;)

Where art thou Stringart, that such temperatures endures?
brrr

#55 zombie
You're right about administrative, a good word to describe a lot of what he did write. And I believe that it was in the book of Acts, and not the letters, that describes his "blinded by the light" experience. I'd say that was pretty mystical, though.

endurest, I guess

guitar
In the letters St. Paul refers several times to his conversion experience, either directly or indirectly.

"Purpose Driven Life" pastor/dhimmi Rick Warren said Syria is a moderate state! You can hear it here-
[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

Miguel

Too damned early, IMHO. Good practice for tomorrow, though. Gotta hit the road again.

zombie

Mostly snapshots here, and rarely printed anyway. I am going to get the wife an HP dedicated photo printer for Christmas because she wants prints (4X6, 5X7) to pass around/give away, but my days of doing large prints are long gone.

Just finished watching "Titanic" on TNT. I hadn't seen it in a few years.

One of the greatest movies ever made.

Mystic plus pragmatist = Francis Bacon

Mikey,

My daughter bought that Olympus yesterday. (I wish I could tell you which one, but the box is in her bedroom and I'm hoping she's asleep!) It's one of the FE series.

For $180 plus tax she got 6MP, 3x optical zoom, a bunch of bells and whistles (5 modes) batteries and charger included, and a free 1GB memory chip (close to 700 pictures before you need to upload!)

GAH! You can get so much for the money these days compared to 6 months ago!

If you go into a good camera store/department the first thing they'll ask you is "What are you going to use it for?" That should be the major factor determining your purchase.

Sony shook up their management years ago. Now the primary "slice" of organization is function-oriented, rather than product-oriented. Their product quality has plummeted. Even stalwart Japanese tech wonks now talk in terms of the Sony Warranty Period, which is defined as MTBF-1.

Old Sony products will still be kicking long after the new ones are boat anchors. This is true of many things, I know, but in Sony's case it is pronounced, and can be traced back to a company-wide management boondoggle.

#79 rickl

Troll.

#83 haakondahl

Nuh-uh.

Mike C.:

This is the best pocket camera on the market at the moment. Highly recommended.

Mike
So you're flying tomorrow?
I wish you the best of trips ;)

Hello, littleoldlady ;) You're up early too.

#70 Mike C.
I had, in fact, come down to a choice between the Canon S3 IS

Stupendous choice! It basically similar to the one I recommended in comment #85, but bigger, heavier, yet with a very excellent 12x zoom lens. I'd get it myself, if it wasn't somewhat too big for me.

Exhibit C from The Stupider Party, Karl Roves Plan To Destroy The Democrats:

Charlie Rangel: Every year since 2003, the New York congressman has reintroduced a bill that would require “military service or a period of civilian service” for every U.S. citizen between the ages of 18 and 26. (When it was introduced this year the maximum age was raised from 26 to 42.) House Republicans, tired of his silly grandstanding, called his bluff and in 2004 moved the bill to the floor for a vote.

Rangel responded by sending out a letter encouraging his Democratic colleagues to vote against it. He even accused Republicans of using his bill to assuage fears that President Bush had plans to reinstate the draft, stating, “The Republican leadership decision to place the draft legislation on the suspension Calendar is a political maneuver to kill rumors of the President’s intention to reinstate the draft after the November election.”

“I am voting no,” said Rangel, “because my bill deserves serious consideration.”

Did you follow that reasoning? The GOP attempted to kill rumors of a possible reinstatement of the draft by having a vote on a bill to reinstate the draft and Rangel voted no on his own bill because instead of being given “serious consideration” it was seriously considered for a vote.

Found at [Link: www.evangelicaloutpost.com...]

because I think I should Spead the Pain known as...BILLY JACK!

[Link: www.jabootu.com...]

The usual time, Miguel.

/verybigsigh

*offers glazed donuts to the thread*

rickl

I just watched Casablanca for the first time (!), and it was fantastic. It has been one of those movies I wanted to see for a long time, but never got around to it. Glad I finally did.

littleoldlady

Glad you found a good one. And yes, prices have dropped like the proverbial rock.

haakondahl

My younger daughter wants my old 3.4 MP Sony. It still works fine and has a real (Schneider) lens. My problem with it is that it has permanent rechargeable batteries, so you have to haul the damned charger along as well. I didn't consider anything that wouldn't run on AAs.

zombie

Yes, I saw that yesterday. I'm not worried about it actually fitting in a pocket. In fact, with my clumsy hands and bad eyes, some of the cameras these days are just too small to comfortably operate. My wife's old Sony (less than 1 MP and used floppy disks) had the distinct advantage of being large enough to see and use all the controls easily.

Miguel

Yup. Thanks.

[hork!]

# 93 haakondahl

You gotta be kidding !

littleoldlady
I know.
Sigh...

#93 haakondahl

Cool. That is justifiably a classic.

That movie was practically in "real time", since the Nazis controlled North Africa then.

Not holding my breath for Hollywood to make anything comparable nowadays.

Anyway, it's way way past my bedtime, so I'm going to have to bow out now. Good night all.

Jewels! :-)

I'll take any and all food (of course, naturally) as long as it's not TURKEY!

haakon,

Casablanca - the first time?! Gee, I bet I could quote that entire movie, (a la Rocky Horror Picture Show).

#91 lol,

Because you can't sleep, eh? Sorry to hear..

Tonight I can't sleep because a very close friend lost her 15 year old son yesterday.

They were in St. Thomas, VI, for a college basketball match for their daughter (at ASU)..and he had a heart attack? They're still there waiting for autopsy reports so it isn't quite clear. His dad gave him CPR.

No need to reply to this in any way. Sorry to intrude.

My heart is broken for my friend. Jordan was an angel and he is home now. I've known him since he was six and loved him dearly. He was a light and Love!

No need to reply. I'm just up with a broken heart.

Good night rickl ;)

Sprite

If you don't mind, the Mourners Kaddish

Yeetgadal v' yeetkadash sh'mey rabbah
B'almah dee v'rah kheer'utey
v' yamleekh malkhutei,b'chahyeykhohn, uv' yohmeykhohn,
uv'chahyei d'chohl beyt yisrael,
ba'agalah u'veez'man kareev, v'eemru: Amein.
Amein. Y'hey sh'met rabbah m'varach l'alam u'l'almey almahyah
Y'hey sh'met rabbah m'varach l'alam u'l'almey almahyah
Yeet'barakh, v' yeesh'tabach, v' yeetpa'ar, v' yeetrohmam, v' yeet'nasei,
v' yeet'hadar, v' yeet'aleh, v' yeet'halal sh'mey d'kudshah b'reekh hoo
b'reekh hoo
L'eylah meen kohl beerkhatah v'sheeratah
toosh'b'chatah v'nechematah, da'ameeran b'al'mah, v'eemru: Amein
Y'hei shlamah rabbah meen sh'mahyah,v'chahyeem
aleynu v'al kohl yisrael, v'eemru: Amein
Amein
Oseh shalom beem'roh'mahv, hoo ya'aseh shalom,
aleynu v'al kohl yisrael v'eemru: Amein
Amein

Sprite,

That's just awful! I am so sorry for your friends' - and your! - loss.

Bad news, damn it.
Chávez's candidate for president of Ecuador seems to have won the election yesterday.
It was a nice row of defeats for Chávez, but now he gets two more in, although the guy in Nicaragua is not so fond of him, but this guy in Ecuador seems to be a good friend, like Morales in Bolivia.
The first returns are in, though. Very recent info.

{Sprite}

Sprite

Been through that sort of thing with friends' offspring myself. Not much you can do or say, except to offer whatever support seems appropriate. Such things take a long time to pass.

Thank you Jewels and LoL,

I wish I knew your words, Jewels..but I do know

Amein.

Thank you.

sleep calls

'Night, Jewels.

Good night, Jewels.

Bye Jewels!

Thank you also, Miguel and Mike C..

I brought my tears to you because I knew you would understand.

I'm off to just read you, and pray for my friend Cyndie now. I know that Jordan will welcome her home.

What is odd is that so many times over the years I've told Cyndie he was [clearly] an angel. And he died so young..

Thank you very much for your words of comfort.

Hugs, my friends.

God bless you and your friends, Sprite.

(Yawn) Good Morning from a pitch black, and cold (37 degrees) Charlotte! How is everyone this morning?

Hi realwest. I'm ok thanks. ;)
How about you?

{realwest!}

Bye, Sprite. Hang tough.

realwest, whatinhell are you doing up this time of day ?

#100 Sprite - What a terribly sad story. I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend. And you're not intruding; LGF is the community you can always turn to in tragic times such as the ones you're going through.
I'll send up a prayer for your friend...and for you.
What was your friend's name?

MigueldowninMexico, {littleoldlady} and Mike C. - I'm up cause of my tooth ache (or lack thereof) pain. Just took some med's for the pain and willl hopefully be able to go back to sleep soon.
Mike C., what the hell are YOU doing up so early?

Don't everyone answer at once now! LOL!

realwest
I hope it passes and you can go back to sleep soon.

#121 MigueldowninMexico - Thanks Miguel! What's so scary is I saw the oral surgeon this morning or rather yesterday morning and he said I'm healing right on schedule! Another week or so of pain and I'll be just fine. LOL!

{realwest!}

/deja vu all over again
//am I repeating myself?

realwest
Well, those are good news lol
Jist hold on a bit more.

littleoldlady
Repeating what?
Repeating what?

Oh, hugs and kisses...

# 119 realwest

Yah, that's what I was afraid of. As to myself, just another early wake-up due to the now-total absence of a functioning body clock.

#123 {littleoldlady} Yes you are, yes you are! LOL! I always accept extra hugs from you! Ummm, med's starting to kick in hear.
You suffering from your usual insomnia?

#124 MigueldowninMexico - Thanks mi Amigo - I'll hang on for a few more days (like I have a choice?!). Thanks for your report upthread about Chavez and co.
Darn, I sure wish you could be out during our normal daylight hours, people need to hear you!

No kisses. It's flu season!

Here, have another {hug!}

/generic brand

realwest,

Yup. If it's dark-thirty, here I am. The turkey really messed me up.

/shoulda listened to Killian

#127 Mike C. - Yeah, I was gonna ask you about your body clock but figured you're so used to this traveling across time/date zones that it doesn't phase you or that you body clock is totally shot! Sorry to hear it's the latter, not the former.

*hiding fangs*
realwest, if I pretend not to be a vampire, perhaps I can come around in the day light hours. I'll try to drop by from time to time.

/no garlic, please.

#130 littleoldlady - But I had my flu shot! LOL!
I know I'm gonna regret this, but what did Killian have to say about turkey?

Mike
Yeah I can make a comment just like realwest #131.
I'm sorry too.

realwest,

Killian said, "Don't eat turkey!"

:-)

The Famous Three Killer Words.

Aack ! Good morning, dead thread.

Sorry.

#132 Miguel - Ok, we'll hold the garlic! Um, med's finally starting to kick in here (unlike our blankety blank heater) and I think I'm gonna try to get some sleep. Even if I don't sleep, at least I'll be warmer!
Have a good night/early morn y'all and I'll speak atcha later.
Miguel it was sooo good to see you again, I do promise we'll hold the garlic if you can make it later on.

littleoldlady
Can I have some turkey sandwiches as buffette?

realwest
Thanks a lot for your friendship...and for the garlic thing. lol
God bless you and I hope you can sleep well this morning. :)

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup laced with turkey is on the buffet --->
I wouldn't eat it if I were you.

/it's your funeral...

This is a night for mourning.
My good, old friend
Steve Brunsfeld
University of Idaho
Class of 1976
has passed.
The world is a better place
And me a better man
Because of you.
Rest in Peace, Steve.

OY.

neversurrender,

I am sorry for the loss of your friend.

:-(

littleoldlady
ROFL

Ego, Michael, RIP sunt. Turkus horrendus mihi kapput! stomachum et toiletum hurriere multuorum factum.
microsprotosginos mihi horrendus turkus quatro lirae collectum habeant. Robus! turkus horrendus non valium ne que una lira! Per Baccus!
Bon. Ego mortus sunt. RIP.

{neversurrender}
Me too.

/i like your nick a lot.

[movies]
No kidding about Casablanca. Think I'll start watching a lot of old movies. I can't stand the new ones (most anyway), and the movies I *do* like, I have rented too many times to watch any more.

[computers]
Sorry to be in and out--I am elbows deep in linux guts and corrupted filesystems from Redmond AND Cupertino.
The nice part is that I finally have my two bad computers up and limping, the HP laptop running SuSE 9.2 on the hdd, and the iMac running a liveCD distro of Ubuntu, and connected by a Cisco 1924 (thirty bucks on eBay!) switch to the new workhorse in the family (which is a Fujitsu with a 233 MHz P-II and some WHOPPING hard drives). That one is running Ubuntu actually installed as the first booting system, so it's actually pretty fast. I used a stripped-down version of Ubuntu with more modest sysreqs for that one.

SO-O-O, those two are gamely trying to transfer files via NFS to the workhorse, and they were succeeding (you wouldn't believe what I had to do to get the iMac to nfs from a liveCD distro), until the hp laptop froze... sort of. Linux freezes are rare and problematic. Yes, that's how screwed up the corrupt NTFS filesystem is... NTFS crashed my bulletproof SuSE Linux.

It's not actually frozen, it says--it thinks it's wedged, because every once in a while, it will respond. But files stopped moving hours ago, and I can't even log in on a virtual terminal. So to me, it's frozen.

haakon
Casablanca is a great movie, yes.
As for the rest, your Chinese is good. I got it all.
/Yes, sure...

Sprite,
That's terrible. I hope that your friends are alright, eventually, and that you are able to comfort them to the extent that you can, or that anybody could.

Over 50% of 'Palestinian' children between the ages of 6 and 11 want to grow up to be 'martyrs.'

This must be watched and spread around the world. I have no other words.

# 146 Haakondahl

Whut ?

Thank you, friends.
Your care and concern is much appreciated.
It's the people that make LGF such a great place.
Sprite, I read about that and am so sorry.
Too, too young.

neversurrender,
I am sorry to hear that you lost a friend. As Dennis Prager says, your friends are in no way less important to you than your family, and in some ways, they matter more. You choose to spend time with your friends, and while you love your family, you never had any choice in who they would be.
So I hope that you are alright, and that you are on good terms with his family. They will need you, of course. He chose to spend time with you.

#150 Mike C.

I'm batting .660

Carl
Wow! That video is an eye-opener! You are right, the world should see it.
Thanks for linking it here.

It's satanic. I have no other words. It's the satanic cult of death.

# 153 haakondahl

If you say so. I didn't understand a bloody word you said.

Ok lizards. I have to go now. Good bye and God bless all :)

Okay, just way too many gems at Defense Tech to pick and choose, so you'll have to look for yourselves.

'Night, Miguel.

Good night, Miguelito.

Mike C.

Active Denial System (ADS) -- which amounts to a mobile microwave oven -- basic research has started on something potentially far more effective and with much wider implications.

Breakfast nuking take on a whole different meaning...

The comments on this video just beg to be refuted...

ibm

I just love the way those sorts of things are being pursued as "non-lethal", when it is obvious that a bit of a power increase would result in crispy critters.

Crowd gets rambunctious, discourage them. Crowd starts firing ? Well, ...

I watched the video Carl linked in #149.

There are no words.

#149 Carl: Good video and a big thanks for posting it. I am going to send it to my sister and her extremely liberal husband. Fireworks in November. What could be better

ibm Addendum

Did you read down the Defense Tech page to see the piece about the more conventional weapons upgrades for the Spectre ? Woof !

Olmert is giving a major address on a peace plan with the Pals. I'm waiting to get all the details, but here's a look so far from the hideous BBC!

Israel PM outlines peace plan

Interesting situation.

#10 Darleen

The Dems are poised to take over and the leftists are no longer coy about their real agenda

Uh- Sweetheart- like islam, they never were coy. You just had to be listening in the proper places.

Breaking news:
Matt Lauer/NBC news declaring, "civil war in Iraq".

Mike C.
Yeah,
just came back from those links..good stuff..

thanks..

Star Wars lasers and such..

Always wondered about a hand-held micro-wave laser beam,
but a 4000 lb battery pack would be a bitch on a 5 mile hike,,ya think?

ibm

Indeed. One of the minor drawbacks to those SciFi weapons.

Matt Lauer going on about why it is a civil war, and why the U.S. and Iraqi governments are lying.
GEN McCaffrey is NBC military expert, supporting NBC's position.

What I've never understood about American leftists, is their strong desire to destroy this country. If they get the country they seem to want, they will be among the first to be put against a wall. Or in a ditch, like they do in China.

Mike C.- do you read Chinese in any fashion?

AS
Matt Lauer needs to get a better hair transplant.. And should be implanted with the troops in the green zone..

That dipsh$$ wouldnt know a Civil War, If he were a Yankee General..

# 172 A S

You gotta be kidding ! I can barely read English !

ibm

I gotta agree - this doesn't really fit the normal definition of a civil war.

# 168 American Soldier:

Iraq is in a civil war the same way Europe was in a 'civil' war after Martin Luther. Iraq is undergoing a religious civil war, between Sunnis and Shi'as, but good ol' Matt Lauer will never mention that. Why bring religion into Iraq, right?

#176 RickZ 11/27/2006 04:22AM PST

# 168 American Soldier:

Iraq is in a civil war the same way Europe was in a 'civil' war after Martin Luther. Iraq is undergoing a religious civil war, between Sunnis and Shi'as, but good ol' Matt Lauer will never mention that. Why bring religion into Iraq, right?

Its all good as long as they are killing each other.

Cindy Does Seoul
By Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu
FrontPageMagazine.com | November 27, 2006

One of the things that protestors in South Korea know is that the local riot police have ample experience with demonstrators. While a viable democracy, South Korea has seen out-of-control street riots in its turbulent past. Now authorities across the political spectrum are unwilling to allow anyone to go too far. Peaceful demonstrations? Sure, but don’t press your luck. While American demonstrators – including the most violent – are accustomed to being treated with kid gloves; in South Korea the gloves are off.

This is something that career protestors Cindy “Peace Mom” Sheehan and Code Pink’s Medea Benjamin might want to keep in mind while they cavort throughout South Korea on their Quixotic mission of preventing the U.S. military from expanding a base south of Seoul and demanding immediate negotiations with North Korea, NOW!

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

The ISM's "Jewish Voice for Peace"
By Lee Kaplan and Bill Levinson
FrontPageMagazine.com | November 27, 2006

In 2003, anti-Israel groups such as the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), and its university-based student arm, the Palestine Solidarity Movement (PSM), unveiled a new strategy aimed at undermining support for Israel among American Jews. Members were told how to infiltrate Jewish organizations in America, while claiming to present “another point of view” on Israel. Their mission: To advance the notion that enlightened Jews do not support Israel.

A leader in this strategy is a Berkeley, California, group called A Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP). JVP was founded by Mitchell Plitnick, a former 60’s Berkeley radical who emerged on the activist scene as the Palestine Solidarity Movement grew after its creation in 2001. As a tax-exempt nonprofit organization, JVP’s platform is to convince American Jews that Israel is the main hindrance to any peace because of its “occupation” of Arab lands. This means all of Israel, not just lands taken in 1967. Consequently, JVP views any effort by Israel to defend itself simply as a perpetuation of this unjust "occupation."
[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

Good morning, Lizards.

#174 Mike C.
OK- there are anumber of "Chinese execution" photos circulating, with the condemned wearing placards; presumably listing their crimes. Curious about that.

GEN Barry M. was trotted out to explain why Iraq is in the midst of a "civil war", why the U.S. won't participate in helping end an "urban civil war". Lauer was, as is his wont, somewhat jubilant in his repeated use of the term 'civil war'. Yes, he is a tool.

GM Y'All!
Bush to Press Allies on Defense Spending
~drive-by

One more. Go vote.

Do you support raising the minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.25 an hour?

Yes (77%)

No (23%)

I saw some horrendous videos of South Korean police subduing a raging protest. Those cops raged right back, and I do believe that some of the protesters will never pitch baseball again. Or walk. Or eat solid food. Or breathe.

Fucking vicious.

The She-Hag is probably safe, as foreigners in quasi-civilized countries often are, but her presence there must gall the government. And that's a precarious thing in South Korea.

# 181 A S

Drugs are one big thing. They have rather harsh penalties for that. Weapons sales/manufacture/smuggling is another biggie. I think murder and rape also get you shot. At least several times a week in the local paper (English), you see some big-wig sentanced to 20-life for corruption of some sort.

Good morning deadthreaders,

Maybe Charles could write a program whereby all my spam junkmail is autodeleted over the long weekend.

Good grief, 491 emails. BBL.

Morning lizards!

#146 haakondahl

I tip my hat to your cross platform proficency.

Good Morning Lizards.

I hope everyone had a safe and restful Holiday weekend.

Expect the Fed to stand pat for now.

Data on tap for the week ahead will help to answer the question of whether the economy is speeding up or slowing down but won't do anything to alter the Federal Reserve's near-term stance on interest rates, economists say.

Most economists agree that the gradually slowing economy has given the Fed room in the short term to extend its pause in tightening monetary policy.

In sports notes, congrats to the Pats for their win over the Bears. I also notice Notre Dame got beat by USC. I guess Notre Dame ran out of convents and trade schools to play.

And I think Rex Grossman just threw another pick.

Rickz

I've got to disagree, Iraq is one object of conquest in a ‘war’ period. Blair actually described the situation extremely clearly - which Frost categorized as a ‘disaster’ - when he stated,

…'why is it difficult in Iraq?' It's not difficult because of some accident in planning, it's difficult because there's a deliberate strategy - al-Qaida with Sunni insurgents on one hand, Iranian-backed elements with Shia militias on the other - to create a situation in which the will of the majority for peace is displaced by the will of the minority for war."

We(our military and various intelligence agencies) completely missed the boat on the alliances amongst the web of terrorist organizations, independently, along with the extent and depth of state sponsorship, worldwide. Iraq is a battleground of a much larger war - a microcosm war, if you will, of World War ‘__’(fill in the blank).

good morning all from the southern shore of ohio. gonna be a nice day to put the garden to bed. i see charles fixed things!

How great Thou art.

#185 Mike C.
Of course, in that system, there always seems to be the question of guilt.
OTH, gotta ease population pressure somehow- infanticide, executions...
OTTH, I've never been there and certainly don't speak Chinese. Maybe it is a Workers' Paradise.

#189 aboo-Hoo-Hoo 11/27/2006 04:55AM PST

Rickz

I've got to disagree, Iraq is one object of conquest in a ‘war’ period. Blair actually described the situation extremely clearly - which Frost categorized as a ‘disaster’ - when he stated,

…'why is it difficult in Iraq?' It's not difficult because of some accident in planning, it's difficult because there's a deliberate strategy - al-Qaida with Sunni insurgents on one hand, Iranian-backed elements with Shia militias on the other - to create a situation in which the will of the majority for peace is displaced by the will of the minority for war."
We(our military and various intelligence agencies) completely missed the boat on the alliances amongst the web of terrorist organizations, independently, along with the extent and depth of state sponsorship, worldwide. Iraq is a battleground of a much larger war - a microcosm war, if you will, of World War ‘__’(fill in the blank).

Its more like our leaders didnt understand Islam. They still dont.

Good morning, all!

Thought it would be nice to gloat a bit over the utter failure which is Al Gore.

Al Gore's new movie on global warming, "An Inconvenient Truth," opens with scenes from Hurricane Katrina slamming into New Orleans. The former vice president says unequivocally that because of global warming, it is all but certain that future hurricanes will be more violent and destructive than those in the past.

Too bad the hurricane maker didn't get the memo:

Barring a last-second surprise from the tropics, the season will end Thursday with nine named storms, and only five of those hurricanes...

...after the pummeling of the previous two years, the storms barely registered on the public's radar.

Anyone who says anything about the weather with "certainty" is either a fool or a liar. With Al, we get a two-for-one deal.

I was wrong. There were 531 emails. I click quickly, so they're all gone.

Speaking of gone, the NYG would be wise to jettison Tom Coughlin today before there's an open rebellion. Hopefully, he takes Plaxico Burress and a few of the players with him. That meltdown against SF in the 2002 playoffs was bad enough, but last night was the worst collapse I've even seen.

I was also disgusted by the matador defense played by ND Saturday night. Props to USC for having NJ players on the team who scored four of their touchdowns.

“The great majority of Palestinian people,” said the secretary of state to Cal Thomas the other day, “they just want a better life. This is an educated population. I mean, they have a kind of culture of education and a culture of civil society. I just don’t believe mothers want their children to grow up to be suicide bombers. I think the mothers want their children to grow up to go to university. And if you can create the right conditions, that’s what people are going to do.”
Cal Thomas asked a sharp follow-up: “Do you think this or do you know this?”
“Well, I think I know it,” said Dr. Rice.
“You think you know it?”
“I think I know it.”

You dont know shit Condhimmi

Plane crash kills 28 members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard

Nov 27 12:44 AM US/Eastern

Plane crash kills 28 members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, state TV reports

TEHRAN , Iran (AP) - Iranian state television reported Monday that a plane crashed in Tehran, killing 28 members of the elite Revolutionary Guard, including high-ranking officers.

The plane crashed shortly after taking off from an airport in Tehran, the report said. It did not specify when the crash occurred or give further information about those killed.

The Revolutionary Guards are an elite group in Iran, widely believed to be strongly influential under the leadership of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Phil Donahue Makes Anti-War Film

Another non-biased lib...

#197 BabbaZee 11/27/2006 05:06AM PST

Plane crash kills 28 members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard

Nov 27 12:44 AM US/Eastern

Plane crash kills 28 members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, state TV reports

TEHRAN , Iran (AP) - Iranian state television reported Monday that a plane crashed in Tehran, killing 28 members of the elite Revolutionary Guard, including high-ranking officers.

The plane crashed shortly after taking off from an airport in Tehran, the report said. It did not specify when the crash occurred or give further information about those killed.

The Revolutionary Guards are an elite group in Iran, widely believed to be strongly influential under the leadership of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Not the first crash like this in Iran. Sabotage?

Hey Jammie. 24 unanswered points in the 4th quarter? Not a good thing.

Looks like that plaque in Canton for Eli Manning needs to be put on hold for now, too.
Have injuries have caught up to the Giants? Or has the team quit on Coughlin?

Morning all- low 20s, and I wore shorts, may get to 26º today if the low stratus breaks soon enough.

Woe to the unlucky school child whose Mom doesn't watch The Weather Channel or LGF come Thursday in S.E. Texas. Low 20s and humid in the morning, but a Canadian front will drops temps about 10ºC in an hour or two, with howling winds by afternoon. Friday temps probably don't reach 10º in Houston, and a hard freeze, -2º in HOU Saturday morning will make all the banana plants look dead. (They don't actually die, the roots live, and they spring to life again in Spring. But they need a frost-free winter in order to produce bananas the following summer. So about one summer in three Houston area plants will produce bananas.

#185 Mike C.

Of course, you read my comment about buying the extra memory card, right?

/on "the other" thread

Chavez vows to beat the "devil"

Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:52pm ET [163]

By Brian Ellsworth

CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuela's leftist President Hugo Chavez on Sunday promised hundreds of thousands of supporters he would win a resounding victory in his December 3 reelection bid he describes as a challenge to Washington.

The former soldier and self-styled revolutionary is favored in the polls to beat rival Manuel Rosales after building a solid political base through a social development campaign financed by oil revenues.

"We are confronting the devil, and we will hit a home run off the devil next Sunday," said Chavez, who ruffled feathers in October by calling President Bush the devil in remarks at the United Nations.

"On December 3 we're going to defeat the most powerful empire on earth by knockout," Chavez said.

[SNIP]

LINK

#199 Elric66

Not the first crash like this in Iran. Sabotage?

Possibly, or hand of GOD, or shitty mechanics, or all of the above.
;~P

193 Elric

Exactly. However, I believe they know now the full extent but the problem's become constituent populations have been fed 5 years of 'no war' 'Islam is not a problem' pabulum - so now what?

Who's going to be the tethered goat?

#203 BabbaZee 11/27/2006 05:11AM PST

Chavez vows to beat the "devil"

Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:52pm ET [163]

By Brian Ellsworth

CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuela's leftist President Hugo Chavez on Sunday promised hundreds of thousands of supporters he would win a resounding victory in his December 3 reelection bid he describes as a challenge to Washington.

The former soldier and self-styled revolutionary is favored in the polls to beat rival Manuel Rosales after building a solid political base through a social development campaign financed by oil revenues.

"We are confronting the devil, and we will hit a home run off the devil next Sunday," said Chavez, who ruffled feathers in October by calling President Bush the devil in remarks at the United Nations.

"On December 3 we're going to defeat the most powerful empire on earth by knockout," Chavez said.

[SNIP]

LINK

Sounds like a declaration of war to me.

Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center
at the Center for Special Studies (C.S.S)

Report on the Use of Human Shields

#205 aboo-Hoo-Hoo 11/27/2006 05:12AM PST

193 Elric

Exactly. However, I believe they know now the full extent but the problem's become constituent populations have been fed 5 years of 'no war' 'Islam is not a problem' pabulum - so now what?

Who's going to be the tethered goat?

Islam is the problem, always has been. Cant fight an enemy when you dont define the enemy.

#204 BabbaZee 11/27/2006 05:12AM PST

#199 Elric66

Not the first crash like this in Iran. Sabotage?
Possibly, or hand of GOD, or shitty mechanics, or all of the above.
;~P

Ill go with sabotage.

#206 Elric66

Sounds like a declaration of war to me.

Sure hope not. Ever read Wibberley's The Mouse That Roared?

Russia-China Security Cooperation

Drafted By: Dr. Marcel de Haas

Russia and China have joined together in a strategic partnership aimed at countering the U.S. and Western "monopoly in world affairs," as was made clear in a joint statement released by the Chinese and Russian presidents in July 2005. The long standing border disputes between the two countries were settled in agreements in 2005, and joint military exercises were carried out in the same year. Furthermore, Russia, in addition to its arms exports, has been increasing its oil and gas commitments to China. Clearly, the recent comprehensive improvement of bilateral relations between China and Russia is a remarkable development. What is the meaning of this military and security related cooperation, and is the Sino-Russian military liaison likely to expand? Should this rapprochement be considered as a structural shift of power with the goal of repelling Western influence from Central Asia and the adjacent areas?

[SNIP]

LINK

#195 Jammie

I was also disgusted by the matador defense played by ND Saturday night. Props to USC for having NJ players on the team who scored four of their touchdowns.

I think the Domers got used to beating up on the service academies. No knock on them, but the service academies just do not get the same level of athelete. Notre Dame ran into a team that can play.

Hey, a local team here, Normal Community H.S., won the State Football championship in their classification Saturday. I know some of those boys. It was a real kick watching them do it on TV. They had a 6 foot 3 wide receiver who was just unstoppable. Everytime they got in a tough spot they threw a 15 yard jump ball to him.

Report: Russia Supplying Iran With Advanced Defense System

Iran’s news agency reported that Russia is providing Tehran with TOR-M1 ground-to-air missiles. The move is seen as preparing Iran for a strike by Israel or the U.S. against its nuclear program.

According to Israel Aircraft Industries information, the TOR-M1 surface-to-air missile system is a mobile, integrated, air defense system, designed for operation at medium, low, and very low altitudes, against fixed/rotary wing aircraft, UAVs, guided missiles and precision weapon. IAI reports the deal between Russia and Iran was signed and delivery began this month.

The system is capable of operating in an intensive aerial jamming environment. The system is comprised of a number of missiles and a Transporter Launcher Vehicle (TLV). A Russian air defense TOR battalion consists of 3-5 companies, each equipped with four TLVs. Each TLV is equipped with 8 ready-to-launch missiles, associating radars, fire control systems and a battery command post.

[SNIP]

LINK

#210 American Soldier 11/27/2006 05:16AM PST

#206 Elric66

Sounds like a declaration of war to me.

Sure hope not. Ever read Wibberley's The Mouse That Roared?

I know the book, never read it. But I do know Chavez is about as dangerous as little Kim and mighty mo in Iran. And it is a declaration of war. Sooner we take these thugs serious, the safer we will be.

3 wood,

It was 24 points in the final 9:35. Twice the game should have been over. On the first occasion, Young scrambled on a 4th and 9, was out of bounds and then was hit late. Then they scored the first TD.

Later, it was 4th and long, Kiwanuka had Young sacked, and for some strange reason decided to let him go. Young proceeded to pick up 22 yards and a few plays later it was tied.

It doesn't help that the offense packed it in after going up 21-0.

Injuries have killed them, but they're so undisciplined, which I blame on coaching. Burress also gave up running his routes on a couple of the interceptions. I'd cut him if only to make a statement.

It cannot continue like this. They likely have no choice but to stick with Manning through next season, but I'd fire Coughlin today. I haven't even checked the papers, but I can't be the only one suggesting it.

It will likely be an ugly scene when they Cowboys visit next Sunday.

I think be default Dallas is SB bound unless the Bears can figure out what to do with Grossman.

As bad as the Giants collapse was, you have to remember, Vince Young is a Demi-God.

Speaking of which, I can recall no faster and more complete fall from grace for a college football team that is the reigning National Champions, than the 2006 Texas Longhorns. They looked like the didn't even try against A&M. 3 weeks ago people were talking about an Ohio State rematch for the National Title, now the question is whether they have fallen to the Gator Bowl, the Alamo Bowl, maybe even the Sun Bowl.

Going to hurt recruiting. I suspect A&M goes to the Holiday Bowl, and in recent years, both Oklahoma and Texas used Holiday Bowl wins to launch themselves to a BCS bowl the following season.

But at least the Cowboys look good.

# 202 K B

Got an extra 1 MB card. I don't anticipate using the video option much. If I do, I'll get a larger card.

PS - I settled on the Canon S3 IS.

# 210 A S

More like the gnat that squeeked, in this case.

#217 Mike C.

Got an extra 1 MBG card.

/fixed that for ya

#218 Mike C. 11/27/2006 05:21AM PST

# 210 A S

More like the gnat that squeeked, in this case.

The guy is making alliences with jihad and communists. The guy is dangerous, you are selling him short. Especially with his oil reserves

# 213 BZ

Check the max range on that system.

Alleged Jordanian Zarqawi Associate Reported Killed by Russian Forces in the Caucasus

Representatives of Russian security forces in the Caucasus are now claiming that they have killed the top foreign mujahideen leader active in the region--Jordanian national and alleged Zarqawi associate Abu Hafs al-Urdani--following a four-hour shoot-out in the Dagestani town of Khasavyurt.

Abu Hafs was born in 1973 in Jordan. After finishing his university studies, Abu Hafs traveled in 1995 to Chechnya to join the growing foreign mujahideen movement led by Saudi national Samir al-Suwailem (a.k.a. Ibn-ul-Khattab). After demonstrating "outstanding military capabilities and strategic thinking", Abu Hafs was appointed to be a training instructor for arriving recruits. When al-Suwailem was killed in March 2002, Abu Hafs advanced forward to become deputy commander under Suwailem's successor in Chechnya, Saudi national Abu al-Walid al-Ghamdi. Later, following the subsequent deaths of al-Ghamdi and fellow Saudi national Abu Omar al-Saif, Abu Hafs became the top commander of the foreign mujahideen in the Caucasus region. The U.S. State Department has publicly named Abu Hafs al-Urdani as a central coordinator of the transnational Al-Qaida network managed by the late Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

[SNIP]

LINK

#215 Jammie

I think be default Dallas is SB bound unless the Bears can figure out what to do with Grossman.

Could be. The league has figured out that all you have to do is hit Grossman early and he will throw it to the safety for the rest of the game. He can not deal with pressure.

#221 Mike C.

The system's high lethality rate is maintained at altitude of 10 – 6,000 meters. The vertically launched, single-stage solid rocket propelled missile is capable of maneuvering at loads up to 30g.

# 219 K B

Oops. My bad.

# 220 Elric66

I was in-country for both of his elections. If he actually wants to declare war on the US, it will make the 67 Six Day war look like the old Hundred Years war in Europe. Please !

Jammie

The other thing about the Bears is they never run the shotgun formation. Their center, Kreutz, can not handle hiking the ball from the shotgun. So the Bears do not have one of the standard weapons to use against the blitz. I predict a 1 and out knockout of the Bears in the playoffs.

Muslim who were in graveyard, to pray for the dead ones... were sent to dead ones...

At that time, agancies like BBC were High... to point figure or guess on Hindu radicalist...
today Main Stram Media Ignored some data

here is the missing data...
[Link: www.ndtv.com...]

RELIGION OF PEACE SLAUGHTERED THERE OWN MUSLIM BROTHERS...

NEH, OLD STYLE...

SUNNI SLAUGHTERED SUNNI'S

SOUNDS BETTER; STILL TYPICAL MUSLIM

TO RELEASE MUMABI BLAST PREASURE; SUNNI SLAUGHTERED SUNNI

THATS LIKE A DEOBANDI STYLE...

SIMI AND LET ARE DEOBANDI INFLUENCED TERROR GROUPS; WHICH ALSO FALL IN SAME CATEGORY... LIKE TALIBAN... ONE MORE DEOBANDI MILITANT GROUP...

# 224 BZ

Precisely my point. Doesn't have the legs to hit a US bomber operating at normal altitudes.

MUSLIM PUBLIC AFFAIRS COUNCIL (MPAC)

Founded in 1988, the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) describes itself as " a public service agency working for the civil rights of American Muslims, for the integration of Islam into American pluralism, and for a positive, constructive relationship between American Muslims and their representatives." The organization consists of eight chapters in California, and one each in Texas, Kansas, Nevada, and Iowa.

MPAC's vision is "to establish a vibrant Muslim American community that will enrich American society through promoting the Islamic values of Mercy, Justice, Peace, Human Dignity, Freedom, and Equality for all." In an effort to achieve this objective, the Council's mission consists of: "effect[ing] positive change in public opinion and in policy with the purpose of realizing our vision"; "promoting an American Muslim identity"; "fostering an effective grassroots organization"; "training a future generation of men and women who share our vision"; "promoting an accurate portrayal of Islam and Muslims in mass media and popular culture"; "educating the American public, both Muslim and non-Muslim, about Islam"; "building alliances with Muslim and non-Muslims groups"; and "cultivating relationships with opinion- and decision-makers."

[SNIP]

3 wood,

Here's the gory roundup.

#228 Mike C.
What would be the range necessary to do so?

(FMI, for my information)

#225 Mike C. 11/27/2006 05:27AM PST

# 219 K B

Oops. My bad.

# 220 Elric66

I was in-country for both of his elections. If he actually wants to declare war on the US, it will make the 67 Six Day war look like the old Hundred Years war in Europe. Please !

In my opinion he allready has. This is a new war with no conventional armies. It has allready been reported he has given sanctuary to Hezbollah and funded them passports. Seems like those kind of tactics work very well for jihad and its allies. Look how its worn the Israelis down.

#224 BabbaZee

Happy monday morning, Babba! I hop you had a great long weekend.

We were all over that story on friday. The Russian Tor air-defence system has a maximum range of 25 km (but accurate only to 12 km)and can attack up to 2 targets at a time. The US HARM missile can be launched from 90 km away, keeping the pilots well out of harm's way. The Tor system then has less than 11 seconds to aquire, track, target and fire at the incoming missile. If 3 or more HARM missiles are fired at the Tor, it cannot cope. It's dead.

So the upshot is the typicaly craven Russians have made a fast buck selling a useless air defence system to tthe Iranians.

#225 Mike C.

Oops. My bad.

And as for Sarah D. (just funnin') poo pooing anything over 6 MP, check out professional SLR digitals.

/10 MP seems to be common, they must not be aware of the "noise"

3 wood,

One more piece, which more or less sums up what I said earlier.

Elric66 232

Forget it Mike C went to sleep when Eisenhower was President. He still thinks Jimmy Stewert will fly over our enemies with B-52 bombers. Hasn't noticed that we don't even guard our own borders, and fight our wars IF we get permission from the ACLU, and the enemy lines up in ranks like the dumb-ass British in 1776.

#233 Kenneth

Good Morning to you too, and thanks!
But somehow I wonder at the Iranians being that stupid...
What about Israeli missiles? Do they have similar technology to HARM?

# 231 BZ

10 kilometers might be the bare minimum. And that has to include both vertical and horizontal (You don't want to have to wait until the bomber is directly above you before you can fire. That is definitely a losing strategy !). That system is essentially a point defense system. Iraq had more long-range systems in place during GW 1, for all the effing good it did them.

#233 Kenneth
F117 and B2 aircraft operate within the engagement range of these systems. Seems to me they'd only be protected if they operate in multi-aircraft attacks with assigned "Wild Weasel" ships.
[Link: www.fas.org...]

#236 jehu 11/27/2006 05:37AM PST

Elric66 232

Forget it Mike C went to sleep when Eisenhower was President. He still thinks Jimmy Stewert will fly over our enemies with B-52 bombers. Hasn't noticed that we don't even guard our own borders, and fight our wars IF we get permission from the ACLU, and the enemy lines up in ranks like the dumb-ass British in 1776.

b-52's can still be used against our enemies but you cant expect the agents of jihad to use conventional means to hurt us. Blow up a few trains and the West will bend over backwards to appease its enemies. Closing our southern borders would be a good first step to stop jihad. This new war is like no other we have fought. we need to change our thinking if we want to win.

#206 Elric66

Chavez is a thug who likes to make himself look important by thumping his chest and hurling insults. Aside from Cuba & Bolivia, all the other gov't in South America detest him. The Colombians are especially pissed at Chavez supporting the narco-terrorist rebels. The presidential election is on Dec. 3rd, & so Chavez is campaigning by threatening the US and spending lots of money on the poor. But neither approach is very sound in the long run.

Publius Pundit has a report on Venezuela's impending fiscal crisis,

Hugo Chavez is printing money like crazy. He’s printing far faster than he’s taking oil money in. He thinks capital controls will preserve the value of the money but it won’t. There are too many holes through the black market. Now the central bank is running scared. Inflation and the end of savings are coming soon, based on the vivid lines on that chart, showing a freefall. Venezuela probably only has a few months left before a great big crash happens.

The fall is going to be hard.

Rice University, the smallest school in Division 1 football, guaranteed first bowl game in 45 years.

BTW, former Longhorn great and hero of the Holiday Bowl Major Applewhite was brough in as Offensive Coordinator, and Rice, which won only 1 game last year, has won 7 this year.

Maybe, in 10 years, when Mac Brown is getting ready to retire, they can bring Applewhite back as the head coach. Assuming Brown doesn't lose more games to unranked Kansas State and a&m teams in the next couple of seasons and gets his contract bought out.

But I think he has earned one mulligan for a horrible 3 loss season since he did win it all last year. But ask Larry Coker at Miami what happens to a team that slips into mediocrity just 4 years removed from playing for the Sears Trophy.

#236 jehu

we don't even guard our own borders, and fight our wars IF we get permission from the ACLU, and the enemy lines up in ranks like the dumb-ass British in 1776.

There's only one thing left to do damn it, PANIC!

/do you pick your feet in Poughkeepsie?

#238 Mike C.

Maybe they want it to shoot down spy drones,
or do they fly out of that range too?

Like I said to Kenneth it is hard to fathom they would buy absolutely useless technology...
I'd like to believe that but I never met any stupid Iranians...

There has to be some use for it..?

Jammie

The Giants will be back. You guys are just too injured to not have things like this happen. Not to excuse the Bears for most of the 90's bac teams, but a lot of those years they also led the league in injuries and lost games by starters, too. Once the injuries start adding up, it becomes a situation where you just wait for the bad things to start happening.

Hey, things could be worse. You could be Detroit.

good morning everyone. ugh. I hate the back-to-work blues.

Did anyone catch this? I don't have a link because our business pays only for the dead-tree version, but on Friday, Nov 24, the Financial Times printed this gem.

France honours its American war hero
There is likely to be an ambience of schadenfreude at the chateau de Tocqueville in northern France next week, when Colin Powell is awarded a prestigious French literary award in honour of his life's work.

The former US secretary of state has always had a special place in French people's hearts as one of their few allies across the Atlantic when they struggled to stop George W. Bush, US president, from embarking on a war in Iraq.

"I told you so" is likely to be a common refrain about the situation in Iraq, as Valery Giscard d'Estang, former French president, awards Mr. Powell with the prix de Tocqueville next Thursday at the French historian's former family residence.

Mr. Powell is popular in France, not least for inventing the Pottery Barn rule by warning Bush that if he invaded Iraq it could have a huge cost, mistakenly comparing the invasion to a "you break it, you own it" rule at the US home furnishing retailer.

Most French people seem quickly to have forgotten Mr. Powell's famous speech at the UN in the build-up to the war, when he claimed Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons and was seeking nuclear capability.

"He was just a soldier following orders" seems to be how this is remembered by most of France. As Alexis de Tocqueville himself argued: "I know of no country in which there is so little independence of mind and real freedom of discussion as in America."

I can't figure out who I'm more disgusted with - Powell or the FT

#241 Kenneth 11/27/2006 05:42AM PST

#206 Elric66

Chavez is a thug who likes to make himself look important by thumping his chest and hurling insults. Aside from Cuba & Bolivia, all the other gov't in South America detest him. The Colombians are especially pissed at Chavez supporting the narco-terrorist rebels. The presidential election is on Dec. 3rd, & so Chavez is campaigning by threatening the US and spending lots of money on the poor. But neither approach is very sound in the long run.

Publius Pundit has a report on Venezuela's impending fiscal crisis,

Hugo Chavez is printing money like crazy. He’s printing far faster than he’s taking oil money in. He thinks capital controls will preserve the value of the money but it won’t. There are too many holes through the black market. Now the central bank is running scared. Inflation and the end of savings are coming soon, based on the vivid lines on that chart, showing a freefall. Venezuela probably only has a few months left before a great big crash happens.

The fall is going to be hard.

I hope so. His alliance with NK and Iran worries me and the far left are infatuated with jihad.

Howdy LGF!

Just a quick hello before heading off to the salt mine. Around here though, you have to be careful when using that hoary chestnut because salt mining is a major employer. We are even opening a museum dedicated to salt mining.

woohoo.

Toujours Pret

# 232 Elric66

Oh, don't mistake - I know he's a nasty piece of work. I'm just saying if it ever came to a real military confrontation, it wouldn't last very long. His oilfields are in serious decline due to lack of maintainence by people other than loyal political appointees (and no, that's not completely good news for us) and his country has gone into the toilet over the last 8 years or so. He is nowhere near the threat that Iran and NK are, IMHO.

And meanwhile, a hearty good morning and FOAD to one of our most cherished resident assholes !

#243 Killian Bundy 11/27/2006 05:44AM PST

#236 jehu

we don't even guard our own borders, and fight our wars IF we get permission from the ACLU, and the enemy lines up in ranks like the dumb-ass British in 1776.
There's only one thing left to do damn it, PANIC!

/do you pick your feet in Poughkeepsie?

I think our open borders is worthy of a panic.

#239 American Soldier 11/27/2006 05:41AM PST

#233 Kenneth
F117 and B2 aircraft operate within the engagement range of these systems. Seems to me they'd only be protected if they operate in multi-aircraft attacks with assigned "Wild Weasel" ships.
[Link: [Link: www.fas.org...]...]

Thanks

Ethiopia, the final warning? The tethered goat? The War on Terror's Newest Combatant

According to Agence France Presse, Ethiopia is about to attack the Somali Islamists single-handed, on their own hook, and with assistance from nobody. On Thursday Prime Minister Meles Zenawi told the Ethiopian parliament that the Islamists represented “a clear threat to Ethiopia” and that the government had “completed the preparations” for full-scale war. The Islamists, who triggered the crisis by declaring Jihad on the Ethiopians, have (of all possible moves) turned to the United States for mediation{note: With State that certainly has ominous implications}.

But there’s something that resonates about this little conflict. It’s not simply another hopeless and savage African war. Ethiopia, youngest of democracies, is under its ancient name of Abyssinia, the oldest Christian state. And Haile Selassie’s sobriquet, as the last Christian emperor, was “the Lion of Judah”. And now, with the West under siege, with the center not holding, with all giving way to appeasement, and surrender, and “realism”, the soldiers of the ancient kingdom are girding themselves to do battle with the interloper.

Ugh... Stay tuned.

#248 danger close
Shalom and Salut, have a great day.

I thought the F-117 was being retired from service?

#249 Mike C. 11/27/2006 05:50AM PST

# 232 Elric66

Oh, don't mistake - I know he's a nasty piece of work. I'm just saying if it ever came to a real military confrontation, it wouldn't last very long. His oilfields are in serious decline due to lack of maintainence by people other than loyal political appointees (and no, that's not completely good news for us) and his country has gone into the toilet over the last 8 years or so. He is nowhere near the threat that Iran and NK are, IMHO.

And meanwhile, a hearty good morning and FOAD to one of our most cherished resident assholes !

In todays world, its been proven you dont need a real military confrontation to defeat the US. Jihad or guerilla warfare is much more effective because Americans dont have the stomach for a long war. All he needs to do if offer sanctury, money, training and passports to jihadists.

PSYCHOPOLITICS

Shalom and Salute to you too {Babba}

See y'all later. Got to get the truck started to get the winshield defrosted.

I hate scraping. Mrs. Danger's Buick gets the garage.

Toujours Pret

#244 BabbaZee

Like I said to Kenneth it is hard to fathom they would buy absolutely useless technology...

If you're talking about the Russian sale to Iran of anti-aircraft missiles, we covered this six months ago. Unless Iran upgraded, this is cold war technology.

/in any case, it ain't gonna touch whatever we might be bringing

#239 American Soldier

F117 and B2 aircraft operate within the engagement range of these systems. Seems to me they'd only be protected if they operate in multi-aircraft attacks with assigned "Wild Weasel" ships.

I'm no expert, but it seems to me, the F117 and B2 would only be within the range of the Tor systems, if the Tor systems were still operating when the F117 & B2's were overhead. But if the USAF fired HARMS from 90km away, the Tor's would be taken out. Maybe there is more to this than I know.

#244 BabbaZee

The Russian Tor's have some considerable capabilities against most threats. It's just that they US has a stand-off missile designed to hit the Tor. The specific Iranian's who ordered these things are probably not the most informed people. The mullahs & their sycophants run the country. They are the ones who decide to buy the system, probably after deposting a Russian bribe in a numbered Swiss account.

#239 American Soldier

A Musical Interlude.

Killian #243

There's only one thing left to do damn it, PANIC!

No we can also play dumbass, and PRETEND we are winning this war, when, in fact, it is apparent we as a nation are isloated, sending our senior asshole diplomats to go perform more fellatio on Saudi Princes, and beg Iran to "play nice."

Meanwhile our Left Flank is busy destroying Christianity "the real killer," in our midst. But thanks for playing America 1959 with me.

You and Mike get yourself to a BBQ with the Rayra/reaganite faction and assure each other how our now "HEADLESS," military "kicks ass."

For anyone else smelling the coffee a friend of mine tells me his kids went to an event at the L.A. Colisuem (football game?) and watched as 40,000 Mexicans chanted:

"5 more years and America is ours, 5 more years and America is ours!" Funny but our lying whore media reported NOTHING.

taxfreekiller is mostly right. This nation is ASLEEP!

# 234 K B

Somebody addressed that fact over at Instapundit's Carnival of Cameras. The difference is that the collectors on the dSLRs can be 5 times the area of those in compacts, allowing a lot more light per pixel and thereby reducing noise. Seems that in digital, as in film, format really does matter.

And let's face it - I'll be lucky to squeeze the full value out of a 6 MP image. DSLRs are out, because I don't want to haul all that stuff any more. And besides, if I step on that road, I am headed for the slippery slope that leads to a full Nikon D2X system, and that way lies bankruptcy. (But they are sweet !)

#258 Killian Bundy
The article I posted is from 11/26,
not 6 months old, but thanks.

Same to you Mike C, and how are those moderate Muslims helping us out now? Waiting...

Fury over Halal Christmas dinner
18/11/06
By Paul Jeeves

PARENTS expressed outrage last night over a school’s plans to serve pupils a Muslim Christmas dinner.

The headteacher announced that she intended to replace the children’s traditional turkey meal with halal chicken.

She explained that eating poultry which had been slaughtered in the Muslim way would create an “integrated Christmas”.

[Link: www.express.co.uk...]

#250 Elric66

I think our open borders is worthy of a panic.

/well then, you know what to do, carry on

#264 jehu 11/27/2006 05:58AM PST

Same to you Mike C, and how are those moderate Muslims helping us out now? Waiting...

Whats a moderate Muslim?

#266 Killian Bundy 11/27/2006 05:58AM PST

#250 Elric66
I think our open borders is worthy of a panic.

/well then, you know what to do, carry on

Are you saying that an open border is ok with you? Its nothing to worry about?

I'm very bummed...

It looks like all is hopeless now...

I have signed my last will and testament...

A new dawn has arisen and America is doomed...

It's the end of the world as I know it...

The death of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson...

Black Monday...

Manic Monday...

Signed Organ Donor Card update...

Will donate body to medical science so young students can get a laugh...

Woe is me and us...

HUGO CHAVEZ will bring us all down. BE VERY AFRAID...

Somebody pass the chips and salsa...

269 Goodbye Natalie

why so bummed?

Poisoned spy visited Israel with oil dossier

A dossier drawn up by Alexander Litvinenko on the Kremlin’s takeover of the world’s richest energy giant will be given to Scotland Yard today as police investigate the former KGB spy’s secret dealings with some of Russia’s richest men.

It emerged yesterday that Mr Litvinenko travelled to Israel just weeks before he died to hand over evidence to a Russian billionaire of how agents working for President Putin dealt with his enemies running the Yukos oil company.

He passed this information to Leonid Nevzlin, the former second-in-command of Yukos, who fled to Tel Aviv in fear for his life after the Kremlin seized and then sold off the $40 billion (£21 billion) company.

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LINK

# 241 Kenneth

Apparently, first election return from Ecuador indicate Hugo might have a new buddy there as well.

# 244 BZ

Oh, it's hardly worthless. But I don't think it's anything the US couldn't defeat.

Morning all.

Woke up to peace in our time.

Cease fire.

Now Christians are safe in Thailand/Indonesia/etc.

Now there will be peace in Kashmir.

Paris will stop burning.

Genocide will end in Darfur.

Madrassas are closing all over the world.

The muslim world will be democratic within a few months.

European muslims are abandoning their religion/culture en masse to fully assimilate as enlightened european secularists.

Somalia will be hosting the Olympics in 8 years.

Iran and Syria will be joining NATO.

Miss Reef contest in Mecca.

Now the palestinians can go back to their farms.