Can't be here, got 60 mph Santa ana's...

That's not glass, that's water!

Fake but accurate?

Two squirrels reflect into a pool...

/no punch line

The glass is half-full.

This thread, like the water, is overly placid.

The calm before the storm?

Looks like that last second before you hit the water

Pssst_{there are no squirrels in the picture.}

#7 christheprofessor:

Pssstthere are no squirrels in the picture.

And only one in this thread...

Shirley their in the tree...

If you look really close, you can see Danny DeVito self-destructing.

#8 rabbidsquirrel

And only one in this thread...

And he's rabid...

Charles, I have glass cleaner for the smudges.

There are no squirrels, but I see happy bunnies in the clouds.

There's a tree, maybe it has squirrels, not visible to the human eye.

#9 Boondock St. Bender:

Shirley their in the tree...

Nope. They're at their laptops, posting away. And quit calling me Shirley.

Not to sound clueless but,...whats this about danny devito?i saw a couple of other references to it.

DeVito went on a drunken anti-Bush rant on The View. Rosie had to sit on him to shut him up.

/ eeewww...

#11 ctp:

#8 rabbidsquirrel

And only one in this thread...

And he's rabid...

Hey, we all have our problems. If you can get past the foaming at the mouth, you'd see that I have inner beauty.

/No I don't.

25 SLEEPS TO GO
25 SLEEPS TO SANTA
25 SLEEPS TILL THE BIG FAT FELLA
COMES DOWN YOUR CHIMNEY AND
LEAVES YOU PRESENTS AND
DRINKS YOUR BEER..
.
.
.
.
.
25 SLEEPS TO GO

Shirley their in the tree...

...and don't call them Shirley.

is this where we talk about the polonium 210 all over the british airways planes?

#19 kiwi

That's easy--25 sleeps to drink up all the beer in the house before Santa shows up. He prefers milk and cookies, anyway.

seemed appropriate

and the 800 passengers exposed to the lethal radioactive substance?

...(ssshhh 25 sleeps to go...

Surly the tree
is reflecting
on its surface...

/Zen

This is what I was really looking for...

Why real liberals are abandoning the Left.

This is why Ed Koch spoke at the Republican convention. Eventually, real liberals will abandon the anti-Semitic, anti-Democratic Left. Read the thread for a glimpse of what's to come.

#17 Mrs.Right
Eewww...
thanks BSB

#21 sloth

is this where we talk about the polonium 210

Shush. "So?" might be lurking. ;)

#18 rabid

Heh™. I've been known to foam at the mouth before -- but that involved pictures like this...

Let me be the first to say it on this thread..

OSU...#1 in football, #1 in basketball.

GO BUCKS!

Surly tree!

Albedo does NOT equal
Libido

/Sen

Keith Olbermann is a polonium 210 infested boil!

#31 ctp:

Heh™. I've been known to foam at the mouth before -- but that involved pictures like this...

Don't be ogling my Jessica...we squirrels have also been known to carry the plague.

Consider yourself warned.

#32 rabidsquirrel

OSU...#1 in football, #1 in basketball.

For now. This game tonight is lookin' like a classic. GO BUCKS!

I just tried to post a link, but the link was banned!

Did someone say POLONIUM?

[Link: chemlab.pc.maricopa.edu...]

``There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium,
And hydrogen and oxygen and nitrogen and rhenium
And nickel, neodymium, neptunium, germanium,
And iron, americium, ruthenium, uranium,
Europium, zirconium, lutetium, vanadium
And lanthanum and osmium and astatine and radium
And gold, protactinium and indium and gallium (inhale)
And iodine and thorium and thulium and thallium.

``There's yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium
And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium
And strontium and silicon and silver and samarium,
And bismuth, bromine, lithium, beryllium and barium.

``Isn't that interesting?
I knew you would.
I hope you're all taking notes, because there's gonna be a short quiz next period.

``There's holmium and helium and hafnium and erbium
And phosphorous and francium and fluorine and terbium
And manganese and mercury, molybdinum, magnesium,
Dysprosium and scandium and cerium and cesium
And lead, praseodymium, and platinum, plutonium,
Paladium, promethium, potassium, POLONIUM and
Tantalum, technetium, titanium, tellurium, (inhale)
And cadmium and calcium and chromium and curium.

``There's sulfur, californium and fermium, berkelium
And also mendelevium, einsteinium and nobelium
And argon, krypton, neon, radon, xenon, zinc and rhodium
And chlorine, carbon, cobalt, copper,
Tungsten, tin and sodium.

#36 Cartman:

For now. This game tonight is lookin' like a classic. GO BUCKS!

The Tarheels are getting a lot of second chances in the paint, but just wait till Oden gets back.

No, Idon't think its the glass on the water.

I think its my eyes glassing over from the ambien.

Man, I love this stuff.

After a couple nights of rough sleep, this works great for me.

Good work today. Beck actually had one of topics on the show tonight.

Good night, bless all.

I spinning.

Chess players to face anti-doping measures

Chess's world governing body will introduce dope testing at the Asian Games this week, although the sport's top official in Doha said he had no idea how drugs could enhance chess performance.

Depending upon which drug was used, the game could go on forever.

College basketball -- why?

#42 ctp:

College basketball -- why?

Watch it, or I'll have Dick Vitale issue a fatwa against you.

You're screwed, Baby!

Two British Airways jets tested positive Wednesday for low-level radioactive contamination as the probe into the apparent murder of a former KGB agent uncovered a trail leading directly from London to Moscow.

smoking gun? coming for ya putin.

#43 rabid

Your not Dick Vitale, are you? ;)

More polonium news

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

watch out for greivas vasquez and the surging terps in the ACC.

#45 ctp:

Your not Dick Vitale, are you? ;)

I'm annoying, but I'm not that annoying ;-)

#44 SlothB77

Would that bit of radioactivity -- the one that killed him -- have been dectectable? Or is that something different?

Damn, I thought it said "grass".

#42 christheprofessor

College basketball -- why?

He likes to support the orange paint industry?

*clang*

Tornado approaching Boerne. May clip extreme Northwest Bexar County as well.

the sport's top official in Doha said he had no idea how drugs could enhance chess performance.

More bicep strength for...um...more leg strength to...uh...never mind.

re #53

Oh! I know! So you don't have to pee as often!

Some U.S. firms investing in terror nations
[Link: cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com...]

/It's just business.

This photo is actually upsidedown. It's the top of an Aspen tree taken through a streaky window at DIA.

Trust me.

_{/or_not}

why did Amaneedastraightjacket leave this out of his message to Americans?

Iran issues death fatwa on Azeri writer

-jihadwatch

Wichita Falls- thunderstorm, -1ºC, rain freezing on contact.

Lawyer wrongly arrested in bombings: 'We lived in 1984'

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Everything you wanted to know about Po

[Link: environmentalchemistry.com...]

Invented by Marie Curie

Named after Poland (figures!)

#59 cbinflux:

Did you get a look at his wife? If I was married to that, I'd probably ask to be imprisoned.

#59, cbinflux. Mr Mayfield is living proof that you can win the lottery without buying a ticket. His suit over the Patriot Act, is proof that he is a Muslim shitbird.

#56 LC LaW

Or tonight's supertanker is the Exxon Valdez just outside the top of the frame...

Yesterday it was the Daily Kos Kommies slamming America and today it is the Democrat Underground DUmmies doing the same. So which one is NUttier? You be the judge.

"Oh, you silly Americans!"

#60 So?
Dicovered by Marie Curie not invented.
It must be rare since there are no OSHA or NIOSH PEL limits.

Iraq Panel to Recommend Pullback of Combat Troops

WASHINGTON, Nov. 29 — The bipartisan Iraq Study Group reached a consensus on Wednesday on a final report that will call for a gradual pullback of the 15 American combat brigades now in Iraq but stop short of setting a firm timetable for their withdrawal, according to people familiar with the panel’s deliberations.

Umm can somebody give me a no sh*t sherlock? Hasn't that been the plan all along?

link for #66

Dead thread already? Last one out, turn off the lights.

Royal Jordanian making up their own maps?

At the beginning of the week, L. returned from Bangkok to Tel Aviv. Like hundreds of other Israelis, he flew on Royal Jordanian airlines. The flight was uneventful and the view from the plane window was like the view on any other plane, however the information pamphlet distributed to all the passengers disturbed L.

"During the flight I flipped through the official magazine of the airline called Royal Wings," said L. "The magazine includes maps detailing the flight paths of the Jordanian company and displays the names of major countries and cities.

"I looked for our tiny country and I found that on one map the name of Israel wasn't listed, and on another map was the name Palestine. The city of Tel Aviv was listed on both the maps, even if only because it is on their list of destinations to which the airline flies," said L. According to him, this could anger every Israeli sitting on the plane.

ynet

Hey what happened to the lights?

I haven't read through the whole thread, but its pretty obvious from the wave pattern that a spheroid with a volume of 5 cubic centimeters and a density of 3KG/m^3 fell into the water 1.5 meters away from the center of the photo about 2 seconds before the picture was taken.

#70 x-ray:

Hey what happened to the lights?

Sorry, I was trying to save electricity. Charles isn't made of money, after all.

#71 mich-again:

I haven't read through the whole thread, but its pretty obvious from the wave pattern that a spheroid with a volume of 5 cubic centimeters and a density of 3KG/m^3 fell into the water 1.5 meters away from the center of the photo about 2 seconds before the picture was taken.

I prefer the not-so-technical "water pretty".

#71 mich*again

Nah, it's just Andy, skippin' rocks.

#72 rabidsquirrel
It wasn't all bad that green glow of the Polonium was kinda cool.

#58 Ed...

It's 44 degrees here in Wylie. It was 68 around 6:00pm (it's 10:21 now). We're forecast to get 1-2" of snow tomorrow.

#34 DesertSage - Hey Sage my friend! I like that line a LOT! Much better than my Fuck Keith Olbermann.

;>p

#75 x-ray:

It wasn't all bad that green glow of the Polonium was kinda cool.

Polonium? I thought that was just the effervescent lizard-glow.

#51 Noam Sayin' - Hey Noam! How are ya? I've always thought of college basketball as "Triple A" for pro basketball!

If one looks closely, you can almost make out two tankers being sunk by a submarine.

#71 mich-again - Ya know, that's exactly what I thought when I saw that photo for the first time! LOL!

Weatherman here in Dallas saying sleet and freezing rain tomorrow morning, changing to snow by noon.

I cannot seem to get Malkin or Hotair to open tonight, any one else having that prob?

realwest

Yeah, great minds think alike and all...

#83 mbruce:

Works fine for me.

#38 So?
O - The sign for Oxygen,
Ra - For Radium so rare.
Ti - Is Tin, for making cans,
As - For Arsenic, beware!
F - For flourine that we drink,
N - For Neon lights that glow,
S - Is sulfur, what a stink!
Which will bring us back to O!

Is anyone else listening to CNN-Anderson Cooper demonstrate statistical illiteracy and the wisdom of Michael Ware, (Aussie shit bird and Islamist plant) trying to play Von Clausewitz on how the US cannot prevail in Iraq? Shows what you can do with an IQ of about 65 and a "News Show" to really fuck things up.

I'm pretty sure this'll be the last thread for today, but I sure wish Charles would put up another of his
"We Got Mail" threads again, soon. Y'all just know he's got the material available.

#86 Macker
Since I spent an hour today staring at the Periodic table I must correct your Ti is for tin.
Sn is Tin
Ti is Titanium

#83 mbruce

I cannot seem to get Malkin to open tonight

I don't think it's up to you.
:O

Is there anything cheerful going on here? That last thread was getting depressing.

JWM

Just.
Freakin'.
Unbelievable.

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

#91 jwm - Well I'm not sure if this qualifies as cheerful, but I got a chuckle out of it:

IPod Diplomacy Focus of Sanctions

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration wants North Korea's attention, so like a scolding parent it's trying to make it tougher for that country's eccentric leader to buy iPods, plasma televisions and Segway electric scooters.

The U.S. government's first-ever effort to use trade sanctions to personally aggravate a foreign president expressly targets items believed to be favored by Kim Jong Il or presented by him as gifts to the roughly 600 loyalist families who run the communist government.

Kim, who engineered a secret nuclear weapons program, has other options for obtaining the high-end consumer electronics and other items he wants.

But the list of proposed luxury sanctions, obtained by The Associated Press, aims to make Kim's swanky life harder: No more cognac, Rolex watches, cigarettes, artwork, expensive cars, Harley Davidson motorcycles or even personal watercraft, such as Jet Skis.

The new ban would extend even to music and sports equipment. The 5-foot-3 Kim is an enthusiastic basketball fan; then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright presented him with a ball signed by Michael Jordan during a rare diplomatic trip in 2000.

Experts said the effort - being coordinated under the United Nations - would be the first ever to curtail a specific category of goods not associated with military buildups or weapons designs, especially one so tailored to annoy a foreign leader. U.S. officials acknowledge that enforcing the ban on black-market trading would be difficult.

[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]

#91,

Oh, sorry for the buzz-kill...
:)
But I guess the cheery part is that it's over there, and not here.
Yet.

The ultra liberal Norway is slowly waking up to the muslim 5th column..
[Link: www.acage.org...]

#93 Realwest;
KIM JONG IL HAS A HARLEY? NOOO!

Now my day is ruined.
;)

JWM

#92 tradewind - Just Freakin' Unbelievable doesn't quite do it justice. Prison inmates riot, cause sooo
much damage and destruction that a court sets them free cause the jail's no longer in a fit condition to hold them?! WTF?

#93 realwest
The image of Kim Jong Il on a Harley is funny and better yet a Harley on Kim.

#28 Jheka

Why real liberals are abandoning the Left.
This is why Ed Koch spoke at the Republican convention. Eventually, real liberals will abandon the anti-Semitic, anti-Democratic Left. Read the thread for a glimpse of what's to come.

The posters in your link seem to be getting all wrapped up around the word Zionist. It confuses me a little bit as many of them claimed to be proud to be Jews, but despised Zionism. Matter of fact, they spoke downright nasty about it. So, there is no confusion, I am using this definition of Zionism, "Zionism, the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, advocated, from its inception, tangible as well as spiritual aims. Jews of all persuasions, left and right, religious and secular, joined to form the Zionist movement and worked together toward these goals. Disagreements led to rifts, but ultimately, the common goal of a Jewish state in its ancient homeland was attained. The term "Zionism" was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum."

[Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...]

I realize everyone doesn't think the same. So perhaps not everyone who is Jewish would support a seperate Jewish state? Can someone explain this to me as I am truly curious? Have I got the correct definition? Is Zionism a bad thing? I thought the state of Israel was a good thing? It has almost always been of mutual benefit for our countries to be aligned.

#96 jwm - Geez I'm sorry to have ruined your whole day, just reporting what the Associated(with Terrorists)Press had to say!

#96,
(Think he meant ' harlot ')
#97,
All of that yipyipyipping allahooey probably unnerved them. But yes, it sucks completely, and may we never, evuh, have to read a headline like that datelined USA.

#80 Outrider

Hey Dumptruck! How ya doin'?

That was some post you left me on the other night's thread. You're beyond professional help. You might as well just live with yourself.

Did you ever straighten the kid out, or did the state have to do it?

Before you get on it, mine was an ordinary, honest lapse of good parenting skills, yours was premeditated child abuse. LOL!

Ed of many names

Storm chaser aims for twister's heart
If all goes well, research rocket invention will pierce tornado

[Link: www.thetennessean.com...]

RoP lesson on teaching young girls:

The gunmen came at night to drag Mohammed Halim away from his home, in front of his crying children and his wife begging for mercy.

The 46-year-old schoolteacher tried to reassure his family that he would return safely. But his life was over, he was part-disembowelled and then torn apart with his arms and legs tied to motorbikes, the remains put on display as a warning to others against defying Taliban orders to stop educating girls.

[Link: news.independent.co.uk...]

Glad to be an American.

#100 Realwest:
Fear not. My day wasn't ruined. But the thought of Dear Leader on a Hog is just- {shudder}

I mean- there are some things just too unnatural for words. Like seeing Miss September going out with Micheal Moore or something...

JWM

ok, one more time for the stuck on stupid people.

===

The United States did NOT arm Saddam. Those weapons were very clearly Russian and French.

The United States did not arm, or create Osama, al Qaeda, or the Taliban, in any way shape or form. None of those three would have accepted anything from the US, even if if it had ever been offered.

Neither the Taliban, nor al Qaeda had anything to do with defeating the Soviets in Afghanistan. Neither one even existed when the last Soviet general left Afghanistan.

===

DISMISSED,
R

#105 jwm " there are some things just too unnatural for words. Like seeing Miss September going out with Micheal Moore or something..."
Great, that mental image is gonna ruin my whole night!

;>'

#107 Realwest-
Well, I guess we're even. But I needed a good laugh, and you gave me that. Thanks.

JWM

Hey realwest!
You ought to get online more often in the evening. I always have have a colorful way of expressing my feelings for my good buddy, the esteemed Keith Olbermann!

#102 M. Bensson-Levi

That was some post you left me on the other night's thread. You're beyond professional help. You might as well just live with yourself.

Yeah, I do and I tell you it can be hell living with me.

The boy is fine. College graduate, married, and living in Indianapolis. So, yeah the state didn't have to get involved.

Well, we all amuse ourselves the best we can. lol

Just opened my 'Holiday' card from George and Laura, and inside it says:

May the light of the season shine bright in your heart now and in the new year.

George & Laura

In the land of the Rising Sun:

TOKYO - Japan has the technological know-how to produce a nuclear weapon but has no immediate plans to do so, the foreign minister said Thursday, several weeks after communist North Korea carried out a nuclear test.

Foreign Minister Taro Aso, who has called for discussion of Japan's non-nuclear policy, also asserted that the pacifist constitution does not forbid possession of the bomb

Imagine for a moment that Hillary Rodham Clinton, someone who could be reasonably expected to be Beijing's bitch, were elected in 2008.

Would it be safe to assume that any democratic nation on the Pacific Rim would remain safe under a nuclear umbrella controlled by an American President whose party is known to have taken money from the masters of Communist China?

No. Of course not.

If Hillary, or any other Donk, wins the White House in 2008 we can be certain that there will very shortly be new members of the Nuclear Club.

Say hello to a nuclear armed Japan.

Say hello to a nuclear armed South Korea.

Say hello to a nuclear armed Taiwan.

Say hello to a nuclear armed Australia.

Who knows, perhaps the folks governing New Zealand may even pull their collective heads out of their collective asses on matters of national defense.

And all this will happen because all of these nations will have no other choice.

Any American citizen who is truly concerned about the proliferation of nuclear weapons can only follow one logical course of action. Vote Republican in 2008.

(Unless McCain gets the nomination. Who really knows what he will do?)

We now return you to your regularly scheduled reality.
_

#95 adela

[Link: www.acage.org...]

G-Had raps homemade bomb formula, etc. in UK

As close as I can get to the image of Lil Kim on a hog.

#106 Render - I may be having a senior moment here (I took my meds awile ago, so that's a real possiblity)
but IIRC, the whole Iran-Contra affair was about us supposedly selling weapons to Iran to get cash for the Contras and IIRC, Ollie North indicated that although we tended to favor Iran, Iraq money was just as good for the contras as was Iran's so we sometimes sold to both sides.
Of course that was waaay back in the 1980's and really has no bearing on what's been going on in the last 16 or more years.
Otherwise your post was spot on!

#115 Realwest,

What gives? I had to check my watch to make sure I hadn't shot the bull through until morning. I'm not used to you staying up with us night owls - I thought you now on the early bird team.

How are you feeling and how is your Mom doing?

#114 Xray

As close as I can get to the image of Lil Kim on a hog.

You're cold. lol

Got one of the dimmunitive "leader" playing basketball? ;-)>

#109 DesertSage - Hey Sage - Yeah, I'd like to, but these effin' meds make me more tired, more often and earlier than they used to, so it's rare for me to even be awake after 10:00 PM Eastern Time!
I sure miss a lot of friends who don't post out here until the evenings, but there's not a lot I can do about it - I sure can't stop taking my meds.
Believe me, I'm more disappointed than you are with my now somewhat less frequent trips to the LGF community.
Hope you're doing well!

#65 x-ray 11/29/2006 08:04PM PST

#60 So?
Dicovered by Marie Curie not invented.

~~~

x-cuse my faux pas

Invented by Britney (no Underwear) Spears
Discovered by Marie Curie

#104 miles: still, Sir, there are Americans out here education girls and women.

Baha'u'llah confirms that God created humans as "...the wings of one bird...", male and female.

Teaching girl-humans AND boy-humans
THAT
humans are equal in the eyes of God
have equal rights
have equal responsibilities

is one powerful, and effective way to fight Islam, by using the Teachings of the 'one like unto the Son of Man' prophesied by Muhammad...

#80 Outrider

The boy is fine. College graduate, married, and living in Indianapolis. So, yeah the state didn't have to get involved.

Mine too, living in Conn.Happens quick, doesn't it?

Sent a perfectly good, level headed kid(HS valedictorian) off to college, and she comes home with a DEAN FOR PRESIDENT sticker on the car that I bought her!

Life is cruel.

#116 goodbye_natalie - Hi! Yeah, I know - see my post to Desert Sage at #118. I AM still on the Dead Thread almost every day, though.
I'm feeling ok, sorta and Mom's feeling fine, thanks a lot for asking. How are you doing?

#117 Outrider
Lil Kim getting beat at basketball.

#89 x-ray 11/29/2006 08:38PM PST

#86 Macker
Since I spent an hour today staring at the Periodic table I must correct your Ti is for tin.
Sn is Tin
Ti is Titanium

~~~

x-ray you just spoiled a cute song

doe a deer, a female deer::: remember that one?

well macker it's back to the drawing board. maybe call the Marie Curie hotline. She discovered Po

/which ryhmes with So...hmmm

#120 Carotene: "...out here EDUCATING humans..."

/duhhh, how do I spell mea culpa?

Whoa, it's waaay past my bedtime now - gotta catch some zzz's and I hope to see y'all on the Dead Thread and maybe if I'm lucky, later in the day/evening, too.
Have a GREAT NIGHT everyone!

#119 So?
So Brittany puts on underwear but the Polonium pussy makes it disappear.

Yeah my comment was picky did not intend to offend.

#121

Sent a perfectly good, level headed kid(HS valedictorian) off to college, and she comes home with a DEAN FOR PRESIDENT sticker on the car that I bought her!

Tell me about it! We send him off, he decides he wants to major in Philosophy. OK, no biggie. Then he turns into some kind of wierd little liberal. Kind of. Really hard to figure out what he is driving at. When he gets a few more years under his belt and more life experience his beliefs will gel. I hope.

#123 xray

#117 Outrider
Lil Kim getting beat at basketball.

Damn. You're good. That one was funny and seemed appropriate. lol

The United States did not arm, or create Osama, al Qaeda, or the Taliban, in any way shape or form. None of those three would have accepted anything from the US, even if if it had ever been offered.

You are correct on Saddam, but ... the CIA did arm the Taliban, and Osama indirectly to fight the Soviet Union. They did this through the ISI in Pakistan, who had created the Taliban originally to aid them in fighting India. The "Talibs" became refocused and retasked when millions fled the communists by crossing the border to Pakistan. At the time it was a noble cause, that it twisted and metamorphosed into evil later is not our fault however.

I have to hit the hay, but I would be interested in what fellow lizardoids think of my latest opus.

Ancient Enemies

#124 So?
The song works just as well when the correct symbols for Tin (Sn) and Neon (Ne) are used.

Lurking... lurking... coiling into a spring...

#133 victor_yugo

Lurking... lurking... coiling into a spring...

...jes like a snake in the glass...

#120 carridine

Yeah, but does the Religion of Peace™ read your posts?

Really way O.T.

Michael Richards comedy club meltdown, Ebaums Sienfeld re-cut.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you my Interview with an Operation Iraqi Freedom Veteran!

Twelve Americans murdered every day by illegal immigrants. That is about 21,900 since September 11, 2001 or about two murders per mile of unfenced border per year:

[Link: hotair.com...]

#128 Outrider

When he gets a few more years under his belt and more life experience his beliefs will gel. I hope.

I don't know, hard to figure. I've never thought of myself as a conservative, just a reasonable, common sense constitutionalist...and I've thought of myself that way since high school. I suppose that I'm also an idealist, and romantic.
I believe strongly in personal honor. We create it, we maintain it, and only we can compromise it.

I'll tell you something that I'm sure you'll understand, that my son in law(LLL)could not.
We were talking about the Viet Nam war, and he asked me if I didn't feel that it was a waste in the end, regardless of the reasons. I assured him that it was not a waste, that we had kept faith with the men at Thermopylae, and he had absolutely no point of reference to know what I was talking about.

I feel incredibly good to have kept that faith, full, and deep, and humble, and honorable. I feel sorry for men who have never felt this way, and can't understand what it means.

Twenty minutes of silence? Jeez, I hope I didn't seriously injure the thread!

Was Olmert forced to cease fire in Gaza?

Via Drudge
The Chinese have possibly hacked into the Newport, Rhode Island Navel War College site - shut it down.

DAMMIT ALL!

Thank G-d El Al flights have just resumed!

pimf
Naval War College

Hello zulubaby
Why were they grounded ?

#142 RTLM:

The Chinese have a new type of naval gazing.

*duck*

RTLM, they were on strike. I'm waiting for my family -- it's been a very tense 24 hours.

zulubaby
I hope they get to you safe, sound and soon,

#139 M. Bensson-Levi

We were talking about the Viet Nam war, and he asked me if I didn't feel that it was a waste in the end, regardless of the reasons. I assured him that it was not a waste, that we had kept faith with the men at Thermopylae, and he had absolutely no point of reference to know what I was talking about

.

No, he has no point of reference to speak of. It wasn't a waste, if for no other reason that we put ourselves on record as being willing to fight for a cause of a free people. It didn't work in that case, but it may have forstalled other governments from falling perhaps?

El Al has a beautiful paint job

RTLM, thanks, me too! :-)

#149 Outrider
Just to second your opinion that Vietnam was not a waste. We went in for the right reasons and left them high and dry for the wrong reasons. Our men fought for freedom and to save lives and were proved right when we left from the carnage that followed.

Sarkozy says he will run for president

#153 zulubaby
Sarkozy says he will run for president

He'd better win! His opponent, Royal (the Socialist) said in a speech a few days ago to some disgruntled Muslim youth in a Parisian slum that North African immigrants were "the future of France" and that basically she would hand the keys to the nation over to them. Her election would accelerate the Islamization of France by about 20 years!

#152 xray

#149 Outrider
Just to second your opinion that Vietnam was not a waste. We went in for the right reasons and left them high and dry for the wrong reasons. Our men fought for freedom and to save lives and were proved right when we left from the carnage that followed.

I think a lot of people just don't understand the concept that there are principles and ideals that are worth fighting and dying for, even if it is not in your own country and does not directly involve your loved ones.

We should support Ethiopia in their possible war with Muslim Somalia. Ethiopia, under her original name of Abyssinia, is the oldest Christian state. She is bordered by Sudan, Somalia, Kenya and Yemen is a 25 mile boat ride. Arms are flowing (in mass) into Somalia (in yet another violation of a useless UN arms embargo) via Russia and Iran.
Ethiopia is alone.
If they do go to war, they will go to war Africa style. Like their survival depends on their victory. We will see an example of how "war" is fought. It will shock and awe MSM, self loathing Western Elites and other myriad moonbats.
The success that Kurdistan is turning out to be is Ethiopia now.
Keep them in your prayers

Bush/Maliki presser on Fox nowIt is good to see Bush pissed off.
Maybe he'll make the tough calls now.

President Bush: Get it done or get out.

Who's the guy Bush is shutting up ?

Bush should let Maliki talk

Last comment posted wins!

#156 RTLM:

I thought Armenia was the first nation to accept Christianity?

Sorry for the drive-by, but the bed is beckoning whining sending small green men to dance before my eyes.

Ok, a newspaper here says that Santa has been banned in Germany and Austria, because "that image was invented by the Coca Cola Co."
Is this true?

Miguel: Say WHAT?

victor_yugo

You are correct

Recently being regarded as "the cradle of civilization", Ethiopia is also the second-oldest official Christian nation in the world after Armenia

Jewels
An article in a Mexican newspaper says that.
I don't think it's invented by the paper. I do think that it was claimed as a reason for the banning there in Europe.
What do you know about it?

Hello Miguel
What about that frightening fraicus at the Mexican parliament ?
:)

Desmond Tutu will head the 'UN mission' to Beit Hanoun. He may be the only one in the world who is more qualified for that than Dhimmi Carter.

RTLM
It's been going on for a day and half. It will keep going until friday at mid-day when Felipe Calderón is sworn in.

New article at Frontpage: Jimmy Carter's Jewish Problem

Carter was also a vocal critic of Israeli policies and “view[ed] the unarmed young Palestinians who stood up against thousands of Israel soldiers as ‘instant heroes,’” wrote Brinkley. “Buoyed by the intifada, Carter passed on to the Palestinians, through Arafat, his congratulations.”

In Dangerous Liaison: The Inside Story of the U.S.-Israeli Covert Relationship, Andrew and Leslie Cockburn revealed that during a March 1980 meeting with his senior political advisers, Carter, discussing his fading reelection prospects and his sinking approval rating in the Jewish community, snapped, “If I get back in, I’m going to [expletive] the Jews.”

Carter – such was the country’s good fortune – did not get back in. But as evidenced by his years of pro-Palestinian advocacy, reams of anti-Israel op-ed articles, and the release last week of his latest book/screed, Palestine Peace Not Apartheid, he’s been trying to [expletive] the Jews ever since.

#169 Miguel

He was the election winner, right? Not the moonbat down south?

#163 Miguel

Ok, a newspaper here says that Santa has been banned in Germany and Austria, because "that image was invented by the Coca Cola Co."
Is this true?

I'd like to teach the world to read
and learn some his-to-ry...

Miguel - you do not sound amused..

How are you ?

#163 MigueldowninMexico

Ok, a newspaper here says that Santa has been banned in Germany and Austria, because "that image was invented by the Coca Cola Co."
Is this true?

The banning was in Vienna and for Kindergartners, and was in relation to Christmas events. I didn't see any reference to Coke. See couple threads down.

The sterotypical Santa that we now see is a refinement drawn for a Coke ad many years back that was based on a political cartoon of Santa drawn by Nast. He drew his based upon the European versions of St Nick.

Jewels
Yes Calderón is the conservative winner, who is hated by the fewer and fewer moonbats here.

RTLM
It get tiring. The communists here have been making a mess all over for almost five months now. I'm glad this period is going to end Friday.
Not that they won't keep on effing around with their evil crazyness, but fortunately, they have less and less followers.
What they intent to do tomorrow -prevent Calderón from being sworn in- according to polls is supported by 11% of the people. That's a drop for the false president from 45% of 35 points in 5 months.
That's what keeps me more tranquil, the smaller and smaller number of moonbat diehards.

fluffy
ROFL! Good one! lol

RTLM
Personally, I'm ok, thank God, and thank you for asking ;)

Outrider
Thanks for that information! :)
Then, going out on a limb, you can say in truth that the Coke Co had something to do with it.

Be sure those Eurpeans,said something about Coke. The Mexican paper has no way to invent something like that. Same with the campaign being waged in Germany too, I'd say.
;)

Got to enter a school for math
35 less 11 is 24% ugh. stupid me as the moonbat had 35 and not 45 to begin with.
OK. 35-11 he lost 24% of the vote in 5 months.

177 Miguel

Then, going out on a limb, you can say in truth that the Coke Co had something to do with it.

Be sure those Eurpeans,said something about Coke. The Mexican paper has no way to invent something like that. Same with the campaign being waged in Germany too, I'd say.
;)

Well, not really. It has more to do with the actual image of Santa in Austria where he isn't that big a character. The European Santas (there are many different looks/names for him in Europe) look much different than our current Santa. Austrias Santa and his side kick can be scary.
There is no mention of Germany or the rest of Austria for that matter mentioned in the article.

I recall Charles had this as a flying pig moment ( tried to locate on LGF and could not ), worth a reread imho as events unfold.

"A distinction must be made between legitimate resistance and uncalculated adventures undertaken by elements inside (Lebanon) and those behind them without recourse to the legal authorities and consulting and coordinating with Arab nations,"

[Link: uk.news.yahoo.com...]

While Santa rules in the far north, the jolly elf has little tradition in Austria and surrounding countries. As in past years, some booths at Vienna's main Christmas market are again plastered with stickers depicting Santa with a diagonal red bar across his fluffy white beard — the work of a group in Austria, Switzerland and Germany that sees Santa as a symbol of the commercialization of Christmas and a threat to local traditions.

This is probably the reference they are quoting.

Outrider
OK. :)

Outrider
Yeah that article said the same, but in Spanish lol
But in another part it mentioned coke and Germany.
But that's ok whatever you think is ok.

The jolly elf!
The other day I said that Santa was a troll and somebody called me a liar.
Ha!

Miguel

Didn't see any reference to Coke. Don't think you could get away with taking their coke away. It seemed real popular in Germany. But so was Pepsi.

Miguel

I think someone took liberties and merely expanded the "commercialism" aspect of the article to include Coke?

Outrider
I imagine that. Mexico is the first consumer of soft drinks, including coke in the first place, per capita in the world. Second on over all sales, after the USA.
I drink to quarts (2 liters) of coke a day.

Miguel

Same here. Except Diet Coke. Regular Coke is just way too sweet for my taste. Of course, cutting it with some Jack Daniels helps. lol

I don't understand the Coke reference in relation to Santa Claus as the German Santa figure is waaay different looking.

Outrider

The sterotypical Santa that we now see is a refinement drawn for a Coke ad many years back that was based on a political cartoon of Santa drawn by Nast. He drew his based upon the European versions of St Nick.

You yourself said it. It's Coke, not any other brand.

Jolly Drunken Troll: Danny Devito

(aka penguin)

Miguel

Yeah, but that (Coke) Santa is only seen here. The European Santa figures look different and behave different. Different customs.

Outrider
Your confusion stems that it is not a "German Santa". It's Nicklaus, or St Nicholas, a Catholic Bishop from what is now Turkey. In several countries of Europe they have it. And the French have Papá Noël, etc.
But they are not Santa. Santa is Santa. The Coke elf. The hohohohoho. That's the one they are refering to up there in Europe.

Miguel

I was using the name "Santa" only as a common reference point. I can think of about 10 different names for the character and almost that many appearances.

In the 18 years that I spent in Europe, I can't remember ever seeing the American Fat Santa except as a curiosity figure.

Anyway, I got to go to work...running late...later

Outrider
The whole subject of that article was about the banning of the American Santa, not of the European Niklaus.
Sheesss

You don't get it in the first place and make me write posts and posts about this...

Bye

5...4...3...

Hmmm...

#163 MigueldowninMexico 11/30/2006 12:45AM PST

Ok, a newspaper here says that Santa has been banned in Germany and Austria, because "that image was invented by the Coca Cola Co."
Is this true?

It just so happens, Miguel, that I have one of the world's largest collections of Santa illustrations. Goes back about 150 years. In Austria, "traditional" Santa is known as Christkindel and he looks absolutely nothing like what we would call Santa.

We think of Santa as a fat guy in a red suit, but he is often shown thin wearing pink, brown, green, blue - even black & fur.

Nash did do some of the very first "American" santas - but not for Coke. Our vision of Santa - the fat jolly old elf in the red suit - does not come from art. It comes straight off the pages of Moore's "Night Before Christmas." (written in the latter 1800's)

More recently Coke has used the image of Santa in advertising. Those mostly date post 1930 and have been done by a variety of artists.

One of the more famous Santas, though, is the one done by Norman Rockwell - for Time Magazine.

In some ways I can understand why they might ban Santa from kindergartens. Every small child I have ever known has been petrified of Santa. Well, except me. I was petrified - just drove my mother nuts the year I was 3 asking her how Santa could be in two stores at once and why his beard came off and why he smelled funny ...and...and... I never bothered to go see "Santa" again.

On the other hand, generations of children have treasured stories about Santa. It would be too bad to ban those because some company has used the idea as an advertising ploy.

Right now Mastercard is using Scrooge as their seasonal advertising vehicle. Shall we now ban "A Christmas Carol?"

...2...

Aack ! Good morning, dead thread.

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

granny
Hello!
Christkind is the Baby Jesus. Christ means Christ and Kind means child. He brings presents on Christmas Eve, thus the confusion. Down here some people have that tradition of Baby Jesus bringing presents on the night of the 24th.
The article I was refering to, talked about the red elf. Who was, yes, invented in the XIX century, but Europeans are fixed on the Coca Cola intervention.
I'm against the boicot, don't get me wrong. And I love Dickens, so you know ;)
I wish I could see your collection, that's very valuable! :)

littleoldlady
Thanks! :)

Do you happen to have coke, littleoldlady?
lol

You are most welcome, Miguel. :-)

Of course I have Coke! I'm an American, for goodness sakes!

Coke recently came out with Classic flavored with black cherry. As if it wasn't sweet enough! That's probably why I like it...

Hahahaha. The umbrella organization for private enterprise said yesterday that here in Mexico we have congressmen that "are expensive, agressive and irresposible"
ROFL! LOL!
That was good LOL

littleoldlady
Thank you American! ;)
I drink: a bit of rum, a bit of water and then coke to fill. The water is because it started tasting too sweet for me after several years.
When they ask me what I want for desert I answer that I drink my desert ;) I drink my sugar.

I'm not that picky. I eat AND drink my sugar.

I know littleoldlady.
Those chocolates... lol

Ok some people get sad, others happy, because today the 30th, it is the last day of Vicente Fox as President of Mexico.
Cycles always have an end.

Sigh. (Remembering when chocolate Coke, vanilla Coke and cherry Coke were things made by the guy at the soda fountain.)

littleoldlady,
are you the selfidentified packrat who sells on Ebay?
Auntie

#204 MigueldowninMexico 11/30/2006 02:05AM PST

granny
Hello!
Christkind is the Baby Jesus. Christ means Christ and Kind means child. He brings presents on Christmas Eve, thus the confusion. Down here some people have that tradition of Baby Jesus bringing presents on the night of the 24th.
The article I was refering to, talked about the red elf. Who was, yes, invented in the XIX century, but Europeans are fixed on the Coca Cola intervention.
I'm against the boicot, don't get me wrong. And I love Dickens, so you know ;)
I wish I could see your collection, that's very valuable! :)

Yes, I know Christkindl is the baby Jesus :) He is the traditional Austrian "Santa." The German Santa is a bit different - being really Sain Nicholas. When I lived in Germany Santa really did go house to house in the town we lived in. And kids got bundles of switches with bags of candy tied to them on December 5.

I don't like the commercialization of Christmas taken to the point it has been much myself. It really irritates me to find Christmas decorations in the store before Halloween. I've noted several times recently that the Halloween candy goes out just after July 4 so it can be replaced with Christmas the day after school starts! Not a reason to ban Santa though. BTW, Santa drinks Coke with his cookies in my house and always has done, though for some years now it has been Diet Coke.

The Europeans are a bit out of date though. Coke has been using a polar bear for their Christmas symbol for a number of years. Hasn't been a Coke Santa in a while.

I never think much about what my collection is worth. Pretty, pretty though. Speaking of, I guess I should print off some Santas to decorate the house. (More than a bit of my collection is has been digitized and restored one pixel at a time.)

Mike
Did you have those floats of lemon sorbet (?) on your coca cola?
Ut was the rage back then around here.
Chocolate icecream was good too lol

Ut=It

Best Santa song ever:

Scroll down to "Play Music"

Hi auntie,

Yup, that would be me!

/verybigsigh

Alas,
I shall try to particiapte another time, when lizards are more friendly.

Granny
That's correct. I would make the exception that you should call Santa to Christkind or St Nicholas. Because they are not.
I also don't like the commercilization of Christmas, but I defend Santa too, not so much for Santa himself, but because he's becoming a tool in the war against the West.
As for your valuable colection I was refering more to the artistic value, etc. But also of course you can think of a commercial value.
Wow, pixel by pixel, that's quite a job you9 did then.
But you're a cyber magician :p

Wait auntie!

I took my Friendly Pills™

/sorry. was looking for the Santa song
//I stink at multitasking...

auntie
Easy there. You already got an answer.
And made littleoldlady sigh LOL

#214 Mike C. 11/30/2006 02:18AM PST

Sigh. (Remembering when chocolate Coke, vanilla Coke and cherry Coke were things made by the guy at the soda fountain.)

I've never heard of chocolate coke but vanilla and cherry were wonderful. And Coke the company has never managed to come even passably close to the real thing. Gosh how I used to adore vanilla coke. Coke floats were good too.

BTW, do you remember when Coke contained, well...coke?

littleoldlady
Friendly pills hahahahahaha

'London's bridge is falling down'

In a devastating verdict on Tony Blair’s decision to back war in Iraq and his “totally one-sided” relationship with President Bush, a US State Department official has said that Britain’s role as a bridge between America and Europe is now “disappearing before our eyes”.

SPLASH!

In point of fact, come March 17(?), 2007, the US will be isolated - as in America, Alone - from past traditional allies with the departure of Prime Minister Blair. Gordon Brown, viewed as Blair's likely successor, has already stated his desire to move Britain closer to the Euro's and last year,

"Brown paid tributes to lims as 'modern heroes' who brought both hope and idealism to the European country."

Yep...they sure did bring hope and idealism, it's call Jihad.

Just think, all this in time for the jihadi's spring offensive. A Demo congress(no pun intended but noted) and a booming, blooming al-Qaeda spring-time. Aren't we the lucky ones? Ugh.

Morning folks.

# 217 Miguel

No, never heard of the word "sorbet" back then. If you had had a successfull day collecting pop bottles, you could spring for the ultimate - a root beer float. Root beer with vanilla ice cream (REAL) in it. I think the last time I had one of those was 1978.

Okay, it wasn't a song. I could have sworn they sang "Santa Claus is coming to town" after the skit.

But who remembers...

;-)

Mike
That sounds delicious. With real root beer, not the canned thing that tastes like dentist' paste lol
I've never had one of those, swith vanilla. But the root beer out of those small barrels was wonderful ;)

#222 MigueldowninMexico 11/30/2006 02:25AM PST

Granny
That's correct. I would make the exception that you should call Santa to Christkind or St Nicholas. Because they are not.
I also don't like the commercilization of Christmas, but I defend Santa too, not so much for Santa himself, but because he's becoming a tool in the war against the West.
As for your valuable colection I was refering more to the artistic value, etc. But also of course you can think of a commercial value.
Wow, pixel by pixel, that's quite a job you9 did then.
But you're a cyber magician :p

I don't know about the cyber-magician thing Miguel. Just have a very strong artistic streak and a very good eye for how things used to look before they have been ravaged by time. And a little skill with a graphics program or 4.

# 225 g g

Okay, I'm old, but let's not be insulting ! You'd have to be at least 70 to remember that. If I should make it to there, it will take at lest a little while longer.

I couldn't open ot littleoldlady. No plug-ins, it said.

aboo
Glad to see you so optimistic this morning lol
:p

Mikey,

There used to be this hotdog place called Levis down in Society Hill that may have had - at that time; it's gone now :-( - the oldest soda fountain in the country. Totally unique flavors.

Hey! They've bottled the stuff!

granny
A cyber restorer.
Restorers actually charge good prices for their work. Maybe less so in cyber restorations, but still, few people can do something like that, programs or not, because, as you say, you need an artistic sense besides the tech.

...

#235 MigueldowninMexico 11/30/2006 02:37AM PST

granny
A cyber restorer.
Restorers actually charge good prices for their work. Maybe less so in cyber restorations, but still, few people can do something like that, programs or not, because, as you say, you need an artistic sense besides the tech.

Digital restoration is what has allowed me to pretty much retire :)

Good shivering morning Lizardoids.

It's 27 degrees in the Alps of Texas this AM with a wind chill of 16!

Needless to say, I was bundled up for this morning's walk.

What's the lastest news in "The Death of The West"® ?

# 236 g g

Oh, that. No, they took out the active ingredients in the 30s, but still added some extracts for decades after that. I though you meant "the REAL thing."

You can buy coca teabags in Bolivia. Tastes like shit and a ton of it wouldn't get you high.

granny
Bingo! I hit it lol. Great way to retire! ;)

Huc
You go out with that temp? Wow.
I wouldn't be able to move lol

# 238 Hucbald

The "Alps of Texas" ? Heh.

#239 Mike C. 11/30/2006 02:42AM PST

# 236 g g

Oh, that. No, they took out the active ingredients in the 30s, but still added some extracts for decades after that. I though you meant "the REAL thing."

I remember those "extracts" - not so sure they were exactly not "active."

Don't think I would like coca tea - phewy!

littleoldlady
Do you know that "auntie"?
Why was she so upset?

She even sneered at your Ebay activities...
ROFL

#238 Hucbald 11/30/2006 02:42AM PST

Good shivering morning Lizardoids.

It's 27 degrees in the Alps of Texas this AM with a wind chill of 16!

Needless to say, I was bundled up for this morning's walk.

What's the lastest news in "The Death of The West"® ?

Ye gods and little fishes - it is high 40's - maybe even low 50s right now in VT and the sun is not yet up.

The daughter in NM called yesterday to tell me she had woken up to snow and had to scrape the windshield with a kitchen spatula ROFL. We were running around barefoot in shorts.

Jihad Watch has a good article on Dinner Jacket's ultimatum to the American People to either convert or die.

Miguel,

I have no idea! Maybe I took too long to answer her?

/forgot to tell her that I'm The World's Slowest Typer™

Better dead than muzzy!

littleoldlady
Don't feel bad. You didn't take long, she was way too anxious, even for me! lol ;)

#242 Mike C.

Mornin' bro.

Been reading up on magnetars. Interesting stuff. Mind bending physics.

We're at 4,500 feet here, which is way high for Tejas. If you look at a map, the Rockies go down through NM and peter out in far west Texas. That's where I live: The tail of the Rockies (Technically the Chihuahuan Desert).

Close to the Alps as you can get in Texas. ;^)

Miguel,

That's okay. I sneer at my own ebay activities.

;-)

/hope to have the last laugh someday when I strike it rich...

Sensitive skin is not a good survival trait around here.

Time for some eats, so back in a bit. "Have a good one" to those who depart before I get back.

I'm one of those Mike
Thanks and you too :)

littleoldlady
I hope you do it!
And then, adopt me :)

My beautiful eyes are begining to close. I'll go in a few minutes.

/if i don't flatter me, who will? lol

I'm outta here, too.

The early bird catches the ebay profits.

/or something

Plus, my kid MAY be getting most her college applications out today. The World's Most Painful to Write Essay™ is being looked over by her English teacher.

Oh! Happy Day!

Great column by Ann Coulter today regarding the 6 imams booted of the plane. I just pulled out the last 1/2 of it, but it is funny and insightful as usual:

At Reagan National this week, rabbis joined the Muslims at the prayer protest – though one imagines they did not share this prayer from the Hadith: "And the Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'O Muslim, O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'" In fairness, they usually save that one for the high holidays, like the "Festival of the Six Dead Jews" or "Honor Killing Week."

Nor this one, also from the Hadith: "The Prophet said: 'The Hour will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them. The Muslims will kill the Jews. Rejoice! Rejoice in Allah's victory!'" (Is it just me, or might some fanatic twist those words into an excuse to kill Jews?)

Also strange was that the NAACP has piped in to complain about racial profiling of Muslims. The only reason Americans feel guilty about "racial profiling" against blacks is because of the history of discrimination against blacks in this country.

What did we do to the Arabs? I believe Americans are the victims in that relationship. After the attacks of 9-11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan

Bye littleoldlady.
Good luck in everything! ;)

Ok, time for me to go. Good bye and God bless all :)

...otherwise, how will I feed my son Miguelito?!...

Good day, ALL!™

#246 galloping granny

Morning, m'lady.

I think you know what my response to Ahmadingleberry would be.

First of all, I'm 6'2"/220 (Should be 190 *sigh*) and he's - what - 4'10"/90? Not even a fair fight. It would resemble a Loony Tunes feature.

#261 Hucbald 11/30/2006 03:00AM PST

#246 galloping granny

Morning, m'lady.

I think you know what my response to Ahmadingleberry would be.

First of all, I'm 6'2"/220 (Should be 190 *sigh*) and he's - what - 4'10"/90? Not even a fair fight. It would resemble a Loony Tunes feature.

Morning Hucbald. Sheesh - I'm still taller than he is, and tall I am not. Not a matter of a fight though - I can still tell right from wrong, good from bad, black from white. And I am still watching so as not to be deceived... their god is not mine.

#262 galloping granny

"... their god is not mine."

We are on the same team: Us "Followers of the Way" need to stick together like superglue. ;^D

BabbaZee's alarm clock in 5... 4... 3... 2...

miguel,
She even sneered at your Ebay activities...
ROFL

can you show me where I did that please?

I am new to posting and would appreciate if you not put words or intentions into what I type.
,auntie

LLO,
thanks for relpy, I thought that was you who mentioned such the otherday ;)

revka,
also enjoyed her vent today. am one of those people who have canceled cable ( 2 years now )
to pull my $ from the hands of thy enemy!
blogs like LGF, MM and AC etc are wonderful,
the links to sources of meaningful discussion/news is cherished greatly.
,auntie

Reply from Prof Camp

Message: Friends, respondents, and (apparent) enemies:

Due to the mis-representation of the Tennessean, I have received
numerous emails today.

I have learned some things:

(a) The conservative people who say that they dis-trust the liberal
media apparently trusted the media today. ;-)
(b) Some people have enough integrity to ask what you actually said;
others do not; and these others then go on to make accusations, and
call you names, including moron and a%$hole, and suggest that I am a
joke to common sense, decency, and intelligence. It is interesting to
me that people defending Christ use such tactics.
(c) I do have good friends at Lipscomb University.

In any case, many of you I do not know; many of you I do know. For
those who gave me the benefit of the doubt, whether you knew me or not,
I thank you. For those of you who know me but didn't give me the
benefit of the doubt, you hurt my feelings.

Attached is an article submitted to the Tennessean which they have said
they will publish in tomorrow's paper, unedited.

Grace and peace,

Lee Camp

Lee C. Camp
Assoc. Prof. of Theology and Ethics
Lipscomb University, 4217
Nashville, TN 37204-3951

[Link: proxy.cingular.infospace.com:8082...]

#264 auntieinfidel 11/30/2006 03:11AM PST

miguel,
She even sneered at your Ebay activities...
ROFL

can you show me where I did that please?

I am new to posting and would appreciate if you not put words or intentions into what I type.
,auntie

Auntie, one of the biggest drawbacks about the Internet is that there are no visual clues as to what someone means like there are when you talk face to face.

Since you are new, I would suggest that whatever has gone on this dead-thread between you and Littleoldlady is a simple mis-understanding and that all would best be forgiven/forgotten by both sides.

Littleoldlady is well beloved here by most and it is natural that Miguel and others would be firmly attached to her side in most disputes.

#267 gallops

Littleoldlady is well beloved here by most

littleoldlady?! That hussy?!

/

Auntie,
Yes, I too am a major Malkin, coulter, Rush and Mark, 'the great one', Levin fan. Mark Levin is excellent by the way.

I still have cable, but don't watch it much any more. We just pay for sports and fox news, and maybe some of the shows like forensic files and body of evidence with Dayle Hinman. All the other stuff is pretty crappy as far as I am concerned. Well, except maybe "24" and "American Idol". I guess I do watch a little more than I thought! But most of it is 'seasonal'. ;-)

I agree that LGF, and other websites are awesome if you want to know what is going on in the world, which to me is more important than fantasy television. Also, I find it hard to find people to discuss world events with, so these discussion threads are great!

Good morning, Lizards.

Morning all.
George Will on Jim Webb:
Already Too Busy for Civility

Webb certainly has conveyed what he is: a boor. ... When -- if ever -- Webb grows weary of admiring his new grandeur as a "leader" he might consider this: In a republic, people decline to be led by leaders who are insufferably full of themselves.

My new senator. I'm so proud.

Excerpts from Thomas Friedman's column in yesterday's New York Times:

Ten Months or Ten Years

Here is the central truth about Iraq today: This country is so broken it can’t even have a proper civil war.

There are so many people killing so many other people for so many different reasons — religion, crime, politics — that all the proposals for how to settle this problem seem laughable. It was possible to settle Bosnia’s civil war by turning the country into a loose federation, because the main parties to that conflict were reasonably coherent, with leaders who could cut a deal and deliver their faction.

But Iraq is in so many little pieces now, divided among warlords, foreign terrorists, gangs, militias, parties, the police and the army, that nobody seems able to deliver anybody. Iraq has entered a stage beyond civil war — it’s gone from breaking apart to breaking down. This is not the Arab Yugoslavia anymore. It’s Hobbes’s jungle.

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In his must-read new book about the impact of culture on politics and economic development, “The Central Liberal Truth,” Lawrence Harrison notes that some cultures are “progress-prone” and others are “progress- resistant.” In the Arab-Muslim world today the progress-resistant cultural forces seem to be just too strong, especially in Iraq, which is why it is so hard to establish durable democratic institutions in that soil, he says.

“Some may hark back to our successful imposition of democracy on West Germany and Japan after World War II,” adds Mr. Harrison. “But the people on whom democracy was imposed in those two countries were highly literate and entrepreneurial members of unified, institutionalized societies with strong traditions of association — what we refer to today as ‘social capital.’ Iraq was social capital-poor to start with and it now verges on bankruptcy.”

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... Iraq was already pretty broken before we got there — broken, it seems, by 1,000 years of Arab-Muslim authoritarianism, three brutal decades of Sunni Baathist rule, and a crippling decade of U.N. sanctions. It was held together only by Saddam’s iron fist. Had we properly occupied the country, and begun political therapy, it is possible an American iron fist could have held Iraq together long enough to put it on a new course. But instead we created a vacuum by not deploying enough troops.

That vacuum was filled by murderous Sunni Baathists and Al Qaeda types, who butchered Iraqi Shiites until they finally wouldn’t take it any longer and started butchering back, which brought us to where we are today. The Sunni Muslim world should hang its head in shame for the barbarism it has tolerated and tacitly supported by the Sunnis of Iraq, whose violence, from the start, has had only one goal: America must fail in its effort to bring progressive politics or democracy to this region. America must fail — no matter how many Iraqis have to be killed, America must fail.

This has left us with two impossible choices. If we’re not ready to do what is necessary to crush the dark forces in Iraq and properly rebuild it, then we need to leave — because to just keep stumbling along as we have been makes no sense. Itwill only mean throwing more good lives after good lives into a deeper and deeper hole filled with more and more broken pieces.

#270 Goddessoftheclassroom 11/30/2006 03:45AM PST

Good morning, Lizards.

Morning

#270 Goddessoftheclassroom 11/30/2006 03:45AM PST

Good morning, Lizards.

Morning Goddess. I hope things are a little better for you today :)