Doesn't surprise me none.

Perhaps that Palestinian state could include some nice greenhouses...

Oh. Sorry, tried that.

At this point I don't give a damn what they think. A"peace" will eventually have to be imposed on them, or at least what is left of them.

So if we leave Iraq, and stop hassling Iran about their nuclear program, the Shiites will be okay with that.

sunni look at shi'ites as heritics.

how many times must we point out that those folks were offered a Palestinian State and turned it down?

...their view of America would improve if it brokered a comprehensive Middle East peace settlement that would lead to a Palestinian state.

Yeah, and my view of my local bank would improve if it gave me a million dollars, and my view of Rachel Weisz would improve if she'd date me. Gimme, gimme, gimme; the political views of toddlers.

I am generally a 'live and let live' person. but when I hear of sunni's killing shi'ites (vice versa) or fatah warring with hamas, I just chuckle.
This is the fate an eventual caliphat would devolve to. Internicine battle until one tribe ruled the rubble.

/I refuse to capitalize their sects.

It reminds me of the Star Trek episode with the "Riddler", from the Batman TV series, playing a man locked in a war with people that were not like him.

He was black on the left side of his body and white on the right. The enemy was black on the right and white on the left.

They looked the same to me...

AS soon as ANY discussion goes to the creation of a Paly state I consider the conversation bankrupt of any common sense .

On Iraq, more than 50 percent of Sunnis, Christians and Druze believe civil war in that country will expand rapidly if the U.S. quickly withdraws its forces as opposed to nearly 50 percent of Shiite who believe that Iraqis will find a way to bridge their differences if U.S. forces pull out.

Read this as shi'ites plan to slaughter sunnis, kurds, christians, (and probably each other) is U.S. foces withdraw.

#6 FriarsTale 12/2/2006 08:15PM PST

how many times must we point out that those folks were offered a Palestinian State and turned it down?

Not to mention that they were given a country - Jordan.

pimf is=if

In a realted story, a Zogby poll shows that most people think strokes are worse the heart attacks...

Just kidding (kinda). In Lebanon, the Shiites do appear to be the source of most of the problems.

It would be interesting to see what portion of the Shia are represented in the form of the Palestinians in Lebanon.

The Sunni know what will happen to them is Nasrallah and the Iranian sponsored Hezbollah take control of Lebanon. The same thing that will happen to the Sunnis in Iraq if we pull out. Incidentally, who will the world blame either way, the good ole USA. Time to invoke "Just War" until the underlying causes are gone.

As to Israel losing, the big guy on the block is always the loser even if they win. But Olmert and his Knesset War Cabinet should have let the military do what they could if truly unleashed.

I believe that France's disposition to a non-Syrian Lebanon and their presence in UNIFIL can make for an interesting mix. Incidentally, the French and US intel has not suffered the same effect as the front page political relations.

Zogby doesn't even know how to do a poll in the US, how can he poll in Lebanon? The results are plausible, but I wouldn't take Zogby's figures too literally. Hard to believe anybody would pay for this.

Is Zogby Sunni or Shiite?

It seems to me that "radicalism" in the Middle East is directly tied to perceived prospects of success. During the Al Aqsa Intifada polls indicated that the Palestinian population supported suicide bombings by wide margins; but those numnbers went down after the security fence and the targeted killings by Israel of Hamas leaders.

At the moment the Shi'ite star is on the rise across the Middle East in Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, etc...Thus they are more radical. Since the Sunnis are now on the defensive I expect them the main Sunni nation states to now veer toward greater moderation.

#17 Pastorius - He's a Kurd.

That is interesting that Shiites in Lebanon is more radical than Sunnis when the opposite is true in the rest of Muslim world...I think.

Am I correct that the majority of Saudi's are Sunni?
If so, I wonder how they view that poll? Same question goes for the Egyptians and Jordanians.

OT
I think Castro the Liberal Dictator, admired by Rangel and the Black Caucus goes belly up in a few days. The flies are at the windows. Spit

#20 psaturn
Iran has totally radicalized the Shia, who are only a step away from being compulsive/obsessives anyway.

#15 pepper First of all, welcome aboard LGF (I know I'm a day late, but wth!). Secondly, how do you know about the French/US intel situation?

Nearly 50 percent of Shiites questioned also believe Arabs should continue to fight Israel even if the Jewish state returns all territories occupied in the 1967 war

That's a sugar-coated way of saying they're in favour of the destruction of Israel.

Everyone knows that's the goal; why hide it?

including their belief that their view of America would improve if it brokered a comprehensive Middle East peace settlement that would lead to a Palestinian state.

Broker your own gaddam peace settlement.

... The four religious communities agree on a number of issues when it comes to the United States, including their belief that their view of America would improve if it brokered a comprehensive Middle East peace settlement that would lead to a Palestinian state. ...

Kinda hard to broker a peace with folks when they want to go to war with the other party even if they give all the land back.

Lets hope the Israelis start building those robot wasps real soon.

I say we nuke them...of course I say that alot.

Tent city beirut looks like a great spot for a public demonstration.
Pleasure here

More fun

#26 Racer X - Amen to that!

#27 Mr. E. Train - with all due respect, fuck the robot wasps, I want Israel to get the newest Skyshield missile shield system which, as improved, is a gun system designed to bring down low flying aircraft, drones, mortars, rockets AND missles. I want them to have them by the hundreds and depoly them where appropriate.
Hat tip on this to long time LGFer Carl in Jerusalem on his blog Israel Matzav at [Link: israelmatzav.blogspot.com...]

Code Pink in Austin. Weirdos.

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/local/i ndex.html

That last paragrph gets me. The US should declare that Saudi Arabia become a Democratic Government. That being said, all the Middle Eastern Governments don" deserve spit.

The sad thing (for Lebanon) is the marginalization of their Christian community. I live in a city where there is a fairly large Lebanese Christian population, by now mostly second generation, and they are the coolest people!
They have an arab charitable organization here, but instead of funneling money to bombmakers in the ME, it supports and raises money for St Jude Children's Research Hospital, founded by Danny Thomas, one of their own.

As opposed to the "tolerant" [bigoted word]s we have here in the U.S. Now prepare yourself to be shocked and I mean really shocked:

A Tulsa man is being permitted to return to worship in an OK mosque after he wrote an op-ed which was critical of Bin Laden. After the op-ed piece appeared, the man was accosted by a mob in his mosque.
Think we have to worry about the "radicals" overseas? Guess again.

35 bubbaman...He was attacked for saying that us muslims were supporting OBL.

I wonder what produces those differences in opinion. Is it just pure prejudice inherent in each community against certain other communities, or does each group have a central propaganda source that everyone faithfully believes. I suppose it's mostly an us vs them mentality.

Why is it when Egypt occupied Gaza and Jordon had the West Bank they didn't give the palestinians their state?

U.S. muslims. Myself,I'm mostly Babtist.

Realwest:

Thanks for the welcome and in response to your query, you may find the following article of interest.

Many people perceive our foreign relations to be one dimensional, I prefer another view.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

As a counterpoint, you can find many more articles to refute this perspective.

swamprat
I thought maybe you were "coming out".

After Arafat tried to overthrow King Hussein of Jordan he was driven into Lebanon, where it is estimated that 100,000 Lebanese were murdered, raped, and tortured by the palestinians. Why would the Lebanese give a shit about them?

41 mjg Can't work up the energy to pray 5 times a day.

Yeah, I thought the Baptists were restrictive, no dancing etc.

I was a Baptist once and then I banged the ministers wife...srsly.

44 mjg We are restricted from premarital sex be our elders fear it could lead to dancing.

#37 Blackstone

It has to do with their culture. They will go along with whomever they think is winning, but they will stab you in the back when given the chance. As I said before, who gives a #$%^ about what they think. The only way this will end is with what few of them survive finally getting the point that we can get real nasty when pushed too far. It WILL come down to that. It may take fifty years. It may take one hundred years. But in the end they will lose, big time, because they are tiny people that produce nothing but problems for everyone around them.

The "Palestinians" were abandoned by all the other arabs. Then they decided they would take up their "cause" to denounce Israel. Arabs (and Lebanese) have demonstrated they really could care less about the Palis.

I say we give the Pali's their own state - in southern Iraq.

/problem solved

#7 Jack Reacher . . .

Yeah, and my view of my local bank would improve if it gave me a million dollars, and my view of Rachel Weisz would improve if she'd date me. Gimme, gimme, gimme; the political views of toddlers.

I'm only on #7 and you pretty well summed up everything that's important.

Americans...we need a "paradigm shift" (love that term!). We need to stop giving a flying f**k what the rest of the world thinks of us. We already know...they hate us. We need to make them fear us. I've been reading a lot about the Roman empire recently, and it worked for the Romans for hundreds of years. Once they turned into decadent wimps, it was over for them.

#10 mbruce . . .

AS soon as ANY discussion goes to the creation of a Paly state I consider the conversation bankrupt of any common sense .

Yes. Common sense, like oxygen, is essential to life. Supporting a Paly state is like supporting a Mafia-run state. Even worse, in fact. At least the Mafia, when they ran Sicily, had some kind of rules.

I no longer believe that a Pali state will come into being. They are monsters.

My paradigm shifted once while trying to move my cheese. Damn, I could not walk for a week.

#49 Racer X

I say we give the Pali's a state in Venezuela.

Pollsters say Chavez up by 11%!

*spit*!

Nuke em?

#38 mjazzguitar

Why is it when Egypt occupied Gaza and Jordon had the West Bank they didn't give the palestinians their state?

Because the States mentioned (as are all Muslim States and societies), are still lead and supported by: opportunistic, chauvinistic, expansionist, duplicitous, irredentist, revanchists, murderous, taqiyya spouting, Islamic triumphlist, neighbor rapping and sister slaying son's of shaitan.

/(Non Sarc)-In a nutshell

Well, if

Nearly 50 percent of Shiites questioned also believe Arabs should continue to fight Israel even if the Jewish state returns all territories occupied in the 1967 war

then how can they believe

that their view of America would improve if it brokered a comprehensive Middle East peace settlement that would lead to a Palestinian state.?

What twisted, muddled thinking!

The Democrats are full of Shi'ite: literally

3 Jaxter

A"peace" will eventually have to be imposed on them

There is an Arab writer named Amir Taheri (highly recommended) who wrote a column once about what he calls the "victor's peace". Historically, after a war, the victor has always imposed the terms of peace, whether the losing side liked it or not. Life goes on. There are many examples of losing sides that felt "shafted" with the terms of peace that were imposed on them by the victors. Yadda, yadda...

The problem in the Israel-Palestinian war (that has raged for decades) is that before Israel can actually "win" the war and impose terms of peace, the UN or the US steps in and manages to broker a so-called cease-fire. But instead of bringing peace, these temporary agreements have only kept the war alive. The negotiating may prevent some deaths in the near-term, but they only add to the body count in the long run.

By now anyone with a brain has learned that neither side in this war is going to surrender to the other. So as crazy as it sounds, maybe the world should just step aside and let them fight it out. In the name of peace.

Crazy? Unfortunately not.

BTW Charles, I see you are listening to the NiN "With Teeth" CD. Man you gotta crank it up to 11 when "Only" comes on. The best NiN song ever.

45 EnochCain 12/2/2006 09:46PM PST

I was a Baptist once and then I banged the ministers wife...srsly.

I gotta start going to church again.

48 Racer X 12/2/2006 09:49PM PST

The "Palestinians" were abandoned by all the other arabs. Then they decided they would take up their "cause" to denounce Israel. Arabs (and Lebanese) have demonstrated they really could care less about the Palis.

They're pretty stupid. They could have had a state with all the attendant foreign aid but Arafart messed that up. Then in the Gulf War Kuwait evicted 300,000 of them and Saudi Arabia kicked out 350,000. Uh, people, when your host country is being invaded, it might not be ...

And here is the Amir Taheri column about "victor's peace" that I mentioned above. I just read it again and it still rings true. Think about this part for a moment..

Japan still refuses to sign a peace treaty with Russia because Moscow continues to occupy the Kuril islands. Mexico still claims Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California as part of its national heirloom. Iranians, in their national imagination, have never accepted the loss of the Caucasus and Central Asia to Russia. Syria claims north and east Lebanon, and the Turkish province of Iskenderun, as part of its patrimony. Of the 22 member states of the Arab League 18 have territorial claims against one another. The list could go on.

If somehow he was the UNSG with VDH as POTUS the world would be a much better place. But apparently God didn't want things to be that easy for us.

could any muslim country run for more than a day without their infidels taking care of anything besides koran reading?

Sage
I'm very afraid that Chávez is going to be re-elected tomorrow.
What a shame.

American victims of palestinians: [Link: avpv.tripod.com...]

Flying Pig Headline of the day?

Rocket fired at Israel from Gaza despite truce

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

61 mjazzguitar

but Arafart messed that up

Arafart was a self-destructive lunatic. The very last thing he wanted was peaceful coexistence with Israel. That he was actually awarded a Nobel Peace Prize is a disgrace for the ages.

shi'ite or sunni...shi'ite or sunni

So who do we apologize to?

And who should Israel give up more land to?

When a mosque in Gaza is used for military cover and the Israelis do a bit of demolition, the Gazians piss and moan.

"For the first time in 28 years I have not made the call to prayer. I am just sitting here," said the 62-year-old, still looking slightly stunned by the weight of events.

"If I had 20 sons, I would give them all for my mosque."

Hey tradewind,

Does your Mayor box? If he does, we're in the same area. I live about 10 minutes north of the old NAS. Lived downtown for about 10 years before moving here. Still work in the Medical center.

67 mich-again

Arafart was a self-destructive lunatic. The very last thing he wanted was peaceful coexistence with Israel. That he was actually awarded a Nobel Peace Prize is a disgrace for the ages.

Even Saudi Arabia criticized him for blowing the opportunity and lying about it later, so didn't Dennis Ross, chief negotiator for the U.S. At least make a counter-proposal. He siphoned off billions in foreign aid and his wife gets something like 8 million a year. BTW, he was born in Egypt.

#70 AmeriDan
Yo from near Mermphis!

#69- First off, with the number of your comment, bet I know where the "panting" part of your name comes from (sorry, couldn't resist).

"If I had 20 sons, I would give them all for my mosque"

Does he mean trade them for his mosque back, or send them on murder/suicide missions for revenge? Either way, let's don't even bother to vote- give that man his Pali Father of the Year Award right now!

Those wacky Brits (NotW)

Britain's Home Office announced in November that it had agreed to a settlement in a lawsuit by 197 heroin-addicted prisoners that it was "assault" and a violation of the European Convention on Human Rights for them to have been almost immediately denied all drugs when they were arrested. For forcing the inmates to go "cold turkey," the government agreed to pay each the equivalent of about $7,000. [The Daily Telegraph (London), 11-14-06]

(1) Britain's Channel 4 public television announced in July that it would soon schedule a week of documentaries on masturbation, including one by self-designated "orgasm coach" Betty Dodson, "Masturbation for Girls," teaching hands-on techniques to three women. (2) The pendulum swung the other way in October, however, when Britain's Tesco stores agreed that a kit for learning pole dancing (advertised on its Web site), to "(u)nleash the sex kitten inside," with a garter and suggestive DVD, was perhaps unsuited for its "toy" section, where it might have been appealing to adolescent girls. (Tesco moved the listing to its physical fitness section.) [Daily Mail, 9-21-06; The Times (London), 11-15-06] [Daily Mail, 10-23-06]

Munford for the past year, but Memphis born and raised.

OT
Escaped convict captured after 33 years

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A convicted murderer who escaped from a work release program 33 years ago was captured in Alabama, where he had been working construction jobs using his real name, U.S. Marshals announced Saturday.

Billy Wayne Hayes, 57, was arrested by marshals and police Friday night at a gas station in Dothan, Ala., nearly 350 miles from Nashville, where he had been imprisoned.

/As Cool Hand Luke said, "Top notch police work..."

With a little Arkansas and Mississippi throw in for flavor. Still work downtown.

Just doing my part to keep algore in the spotlight by contributing to to global warming.

Watch that CoP there; we tossed him out of Millington!

/jk

"We tossed him out of Millington".

No sh#t!?...I'm MCHS class of 82.

# 65 jazzguitar
What a good link! Thanks a lot. The list is impressive, I wish a of people could see it.

Beach volleyball bikinis shake up Asian Games in Qatar

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

DOHA, Qatar (AP) -- When Salim Al-Nabit and his friends went to see beach volleyball for the first time, they left their wives home.

Al-Nabit said he would watch the bikini-clad women, but he certainly wouldn't want his wife to do so. He was there, he added, because it was a matter of national honor.

"We don't see this a lot in Qatar," Al-Nabit said. "I think most people think it is outrageous. But we accept it because it is important for our country. We want others to see us as a generous and hospitable people, willing to accept their ways, even if we don't agree."

He was MCHS '72

Before the worst Goat Days ever; then he had to go.

North Korea wants Russia support, offers uranium: paper

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

North Korea has offered Russia exclusive rights to its natural uranium deposits in exchange for open support at the six-way talks on Pyongyang's nuclear weapons, a Japanese daily said on Sunday.

/Commie whores!

Are you from Flag City?

Had this miss Goat Days this year. Working.

Unclear on the Concept (NotW)

(1) Race-separatist cult leader Yahweh Ben Yahweh is awaiting a decision on release from parole (after serving 11 years of an 18-year sentence on racketeering charges in connection with as many as 23 gruesome murders, some involving beheadings) and is dying of cancer. His lawyer asked a federal judge in October to approve his immediate release so that his client could "die with dignity." (2) Washington, D.C., council member (and former mayor) Marion Barry was charged in September with DUI and other vehicle violations but told The Washington Post that authorities were just trying to "embarrass and discredit" him. [CNN-AP, 10-6-06] [WTOP-AM, 11-14-06]

#85

"Embarrass and discredit him"

Why would they need too? He does such a great job himself.

War is heck : The Law of Unintended Consequences
NotW

The Tel Aviv newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth reported in October that the much tighter border security that resulted from the recent war with Hezbollah guerrillas had caused marijuana prices in Israel to jump as much as 800 percent. And, though general tensions between Arabs and Jews remain high inside Israel, prominent ultra-Orthodox Jews joined militant Palestinian Muslims in fierce opposition to the November gay-pride parade in Jerusalem, according to a Boston Globe dispatch. (Said activist Rabbi Yehuda Levin, "Only this onslaught of homosexual radicalism could bring together such disparate voices.") [Reuters, 10-31-06] [Boston Globe, 11-9-06]

G'nite y'all!

My comment offering for this thread:

1) There may be Baptist lizards here, you know, so maybe we could be careful about the jokes? Not that you all aren't funny -- you are -- but I just would hate for one of our own to feel denigrated. If I'm being too sensitive, I'll shut up.

2) Not sure if I care about the Christian Lebanese anymore, now that I know the majority of them hate Jews and Israel. Too bad, since Israel was their only potential friend in the region. Reap what you sow.

3) I would rather not have to nuke anybody. Much better if we arrange it so the Muslims continue to kill each other off. We know from history that they are much more efficient killers than we are, and hey, there are a LOT of Muslims. I say let the professionals do the big jobs.

good night C

Nothing new, really. All problems stem from either the Great Satan or and the Jooos.

Just Nazism with a more comprehensive definition.

Ah, yezzz. Jooos and the eeevil, vast Jooo-loving Zionist conspiracy that's "out to get us just because we're" members of a piss-ignorant death cult that worships a pedophile (pigg-piss be upon him).

/CAIR whining to you-know-who in 5..4..3..

#89

It would be wonderfull if they would kill each other off. But they like that Jew and Infidel blood also.

#58 mich-again

So as crazy as it sounds, maybe the world should just step aside and let them fight it out. In the name of peace.

Crazy? Unfortunately not.

I'll take the Jooos.

OT.

Off-topic but hilarious:

[Link: hotair.com...]

Steve Irwin has been reincarnated. He is in Iraq.

There's not really a shiite's worth of difference anyway, is there...

Evening, everybody.

buenos noches, todos.

That one was for miguel.

...

And Amalie...

Wow. I could own this thread.

Mine!

Mine!

All mine!

And I'm playing poker on another site, too.

And, not doing too bad, if I might say.

Where the hell is everybody?

Fire and brimstone...

Dogs and cats, living together...

Yes! I own this thread!

I hereby claim this thread in honor of ...

Noam Sayin'!

Buenas noches noam :)

I'm going to throw an homage, to my buddy, DesertSage.

Ah, miguel!

You messed up my run!

Buenos, noches, miguel.

Let's get a drink.

Noam
You should appoint Sage as Ambassador to the Shadow Government ™ here. He's gonna love it.

I was going to do an Olbermannism.

Noam
Sorry, but unlike some weirods around here, when I get greeted, I answer LOL ;)
Cheers! You had a run, I have a rum lol.
Buenas noches. :)

If you put Keith Olbermann's brains into a gnat's ass, it would be like throwing a BB into a boxcar.

An homage to DesertSage

*bows*

How many did I get on that run, by the way?

Excuse me. I'm on the final table - midstacked.

Eleven.

How ya been, Miguel? We haven't chatted in a while.

Full house.

Just quadrupled my stack.

From Instapundit:

LONDON POISONING UPDATE: This isn't that surprising: "Scientists at the U.K.'s Atomic Weapons Establishment in Aldermaston, west of London, have traced the polonium 210 found in London to a nuclear power plant in Russia."

It seems to be a fact, then, that Russia and very likely Putin are behind this Hitchcok-like horrible plot.

I'm fine Noam, thanks :)
How about you?
That's right a while since we last talked.

Just missed another full house!

The flying imams were up to no good, concludes a Police Report.
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

I'm feeling bad now, Miguel. This is not exactly the open thread. We should run back and play on Saturday Night Shore.

Zogby? Don't tell me that's shorthand for the nefarious ZOG!

/is that anything like the 'shadow government/lucha libre' down there in Mexico, Miguel?

Miguel, your politics down there interests me. Can you point me to an an english-language site I might want to visit?

As you are aware, my Spanish comprehension and retention sucks.

#123 Noam,

I don't necessarily know the rules and all, or aim to follow every stinkin' one, but isn't it true, 'generally speaking', that the top thread becomes the dead thread.. particularly on a Saturday night? [Where all manner of offtopica is copasthetica?]

It's been my observation, anywho :)

Femway
I can't tell you, as I don't know Zogby.
But your comparison between the shadow government and the lucha libre is correct lol
A big theatrical farse.

Noam
I don't know right off the bat like this. The problem is that most of the information in English is incredibly moonbatish. But I'll look for a good site and if I find it, I'll let you know.

I remember when Sage wouldn't believe me that things were fine down here. Obviously, he was fed the impression by the msm, and even the blogosphere, that Mexico was at the brink of a civil war. So he kept thinking that I was hiding something. He proded and proded me to accept that things were so bad LOL.
All of that, stemed from the false information diseminated by reuters and similars; the only channels of news about Mexico he had available.
Thank God the reality has been much better for conservatives than all the msm up there would ever admit. ;)

four ina row

Five in a row?

#126 Sprite

You've been around here longer than I, so I'd defer to you on thread etiquette. Just the same, I realized, given the serious topic of this thread, 'This isn't necessarily Noam and Miguel's playground.'

This is Charles' blog, and I wish to keep it untainted by my antics.

... unless it's an open thread.

[just lost and quadrupled my stack during this post]

Maybe even seven...

Seven doesn't come after five!

/looks inside of glass, something terrible must be in there to make such a mistake LOL

Sprite
Hello there! :)

mig,
"It seems to be a fact, then, that Russia and very likely Putin are behind this Hitchcok-like horrible plot."

let us hope it is someone we know ala Putin vs someone we don't. at the risk of overestimating "thy enemy", are they capable of using such methods for a test result/response? or along that same thought what is the result right now while facts are still coming in, that Putin is to blame ie: who has what to gain by that near term impression.
am just not sure what to make of all of this so far and part of me feels it is a bit red herringish.
auntie

Hey Miguel :)

Mind if I bring up angel Jordan just one more time? He deserves this tiny tribute.

I attended his funeral today. There were at least 2,000 people there, although some said that mega-church held 4,000 and it was full.

Jordan - 15 years old - was/IS An Angel. I saw his light with me own eyes.

I was honored to serve dessert to about 50 of his family and close friends back at the house after the ceremony.. and crunching through six inches of snow at the cematary. It was so cold, but the light was extraordinary. There were a few hundred of us there. The pastor invited the ring of us to come closer and keep the family warm.

They had this 30 minute long video of pics and amalgamated sub-videos of Jordan's short life. I have never before attended a funeral where thousands laughed out loud and weeped all in the same breath.

Jordan R. Johnson will welcome All of us home.
Cannot wait to see you again, Jordan. Well done!

auntie
Yes, it can be a red herring, I agree.
OTOH, the first guy who died poisoned, blamed Putin directly.
Actually, his has been the only solid evidence against Putin I've seen iirc.
I don't like Putin, auntie lol, so I'm prone to believe bad things about that KGB full-fledged General.
;)
If you think it's the Russian mafia, I can believe that...still Vladimir is a part of that somehow.
If you want to lay this at the feet of Makka "submitted" fellows, I'd say it's a far stretch.
My two pesos here lol.

Sprite
What a wonderful tribute!
{Sprite}

#137 Sprite
you and your friends have been in Prayers and thoughts during this time of sorrow.
auntie

#129 Miguel...

That's quite illuminating about outward impressions as opposed to actual reality. It's a little lizardoid micro-cosm of what we've been doing for years, now.

Noam,

I have ultimate respect for Charles and the seriousness of this thread...was half joshin'.

Except the lizards know and teach us we need to find some joy in the process. Jordan 'got it' in that regard with respect to life itself.

Without waiting for further dialup delays, I'm gonna head to my pillow.

Sleep well, laugh hard and long, Lizards.

And sweet night.

"As Noam's posts grow slower, and make less sense, he will look for nearby brush, under which he'll doze."

- Marlin Perkins

# 126 Sprite

Yup - last thread Charles posts before turning in is the traditional dead thread.

#138 Mig
"If you think it's the Russian mafia, I can believe that...still Vladimir is a part of that somehow."

one in the same agree

"If you want to lay this at the feet of Makka "submitted" fellows, I'd say it's a far stretch."

would suggest it is not the stretch we would prefer it to be. has there not been major concern over said people getting a dirty bomb? is not our greatest focus to keep them from getting their filthy bloodlust hands on germ/chem warfare tools? simply saying it cannot be ruled out at this juncture and thankfully we have pro peeps to do this ;)
auntie

Sprite
Good night and God bless you! :)

auntie
Yes, I also Thank God for the pros! ;)
Ok, perhaps you're right. I won't discount the children of the desert off this.
I'll try to read between lines (as this issue for sure is going to get bigger in the next days) and see what traces I can find.
Again, thank God for the pros out there. :)

Michelle Malkin's Vent today is half serious half funny. Advice for ms. Spears lol
[Link: hotair.com...]

Did Condi Rice commit a felony?

Mig,
am mad at MM for making me look at cindy sheham
kissing chavez yesterday and wasting perfectly good beer ( barfed ) dagnab her she should have warned of that objectionable content!
auntie

Oh, a French newspaper calls Mexico a banana republic, because we had riots and problems with our last elections.
But, in five months of riots, there were less cars burned here than in any given day in France -a total of about 50.
And we didn't allow our disaffected minorities do whatever they like, everywhere they like. They are subdued now.
And there is only one no-go (for the government) zone in Chiapas, along with about 20 difficult areas. In France the no-go zones are more than 700.
Of course, to be fair, we are not dealing with absolute savages like the Maghrebis, i.e. North African muslims.

While we're awaiting the formalities, take a look at the new Mars photos.

Auntie
Is that Mandy Manners?
LOL That pic really made you laugh, right?
Oh! that couple who can be the paradigm of human (masculine and femenine) BEAUTY. :)
I can imagine their poor children... ROFL

Auntie
Another article on the Russian subject.
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

Brace yourself, lizard minions...

Hilton quits Billboard awards over jokes

Apparently even Paris Hilton has standards.

It will now be for the U.S. Department of Justice and for the appropriate U.S. Congressional committees to determine the felonious implications as to whether charges should be brought against Rice for arming a terrorist organization.

Heh... Haha... BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

mig,
MM = miss malkin
and yes my post was kidding about head in bowl,
did not actually barf was able to save the beer, I spit instead ;)
their kids? c'mon what is this a waste good beer conspiracy, another image I don't need.
auntie

And good morning, dead thread.

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
(Laughs are courtesy of Carl this morning.)
Help yourselves!

Ugh...could you imagine poor Casey Sheehan coming home from leave after a tour in Iraq and Momma Moonbat introducing him to his new 'dad', Sr. Pineapplehead Hugo Chavez?

auntie
ROFL!
I'll buy you a beer next time ;)

Femway
Hahahahaha.

#156 LOL
should i do a knock knock at their offices?
auntie

littleoldlady
Thanks for the buffet! :)

auntie,

You may as well knock knock your head against the wall.

One can always knock on wood...

Miguelito! :-)

#160 Fen
suspect Casey left the house when sheham posed Christ-like on his grave ;(
am stil hoping the Min-Men ( hm another mm thing this morn, what is up with that? perhaps a mull moon ) snicker
anyway am hoping they blanket boarder with directions to her property in TX, let her give them sanctuary!
auntie

microspaleosgynos
:)

And kiss the rabbit's foot while you're at it.

#165 LOL
agree, that said someone so idiotic needs to look eye to eye often.
auntie
p.s. for the record i have a one eyebrow raised glare that is killer ;)

Oil biz news.

#172 Mike
"Angola said in a prepared statement late Wednesday the application stemmed from its "growing role in the world oil sector."

translation - the rotting flesh of all we have killed is producing high quality wells.

do they get a sash, a hat some lapel pin that
says we b opec or is all about the weekend retreats and catered meals with soft fluffy toilet paper and soap?
auntie

auntie
I guess these are some of the pros you were talking about.
[Link: www.phoenixintelligence.com...]

Hitting the road early today, boys and girls. meannastyteenager has a conference to go to and - us usual - we're not packed yet.

Good day, ALL!™

Good morning, people.

To give you an idea of what I think is political correctness run amok, my lawyer son is set to go on his first business trip for the large firm he just recently started working for. He has to go to Seattle for a week (from New Jersey) to review documents.

First, the office manager planned his trip that he would be accompanied by a paralegal. The paralegal was a young male, an orthodox Jew. The office manager had them booked to share a hotel room.

But then the paralegal started making special requests. To start with, he would only fly El Al. But that meant he would have to fly into Los Angeles and drive to Seattle. This obviously was a major problem. And then there were some other special requests, which I don’t remember right now.

Long story short, the office manager decided that it wasn’t going to be worth it to send this particular paralegal on this trip. And there were no other paralegals who could go or would be useful if he/she did go. So the office manager started looking at lowest level associates (lawyers). For various reasons, it came down to one young woman lawyer, who could be spared to go and would be useful on the trip.

Okay. So my son, 29-year-old single male lawyer, was booked to go on a week’s trip with an assistant, 26-year-old single female lawyer.

And the office manager booked them to share a hotel room.

Well, the female lawyer found out about this first and objected. And when my son found out, he objected. And they were told there was no legitimate reason for putting them in separate rooms and doubling the firm’s expense – except for old-fashioned “sexist” attitudes that the office manager (a youngish woman) wouldn’t cooperate in.

Well, they got it straightened out. They will have separate rooms. But for crying out loud...

And you know, some feminist (maybe that office manager) is going to point out that by insisting on separate rooms for male and female attorneys, the firm is discriminating against women because it WILL logically send fewer women on trips and therefore indirectly hold them back in their careers.

When my son first told me about this, I told him I could believe it – that they would expect him to room with a woman, on the basis of non-discrimination. Because, after all, what if it were two males (or two females) and one was black. Any request for a separate room would be scandalous and maybe illegal. If you’re going to treat everybody equally, you’re gonna treat black and white equally and male and female equally. There should be no difference.

What a world we live in.

Good bye, littleoldlady! :)

nonic
The Dictatorship of PCness.
The halls of the AntiChrist...

#175 littleoldlady

When sweetandcharmingyounglandy chooses her college, you better make sure the dorm has maid's quarters -- so you'll have someplace to sleep.

# 176 nonic

Eh. Just corporate stupidity. Make a career out of documenting that sort of thing, and you better be immortal.

BTW, when companies ask me to share a room or a "guest house", I tell them to FO. I'm way too old for sleep-overs or roomies.

I gotta get some eats - back later.

littleoldlady

P.S.

Have you ever seen the old Joan Crawford movie Mildred Pierce?

I'm out of here too.
Good bye and God bless all :)

nonic,

Ouch!
and Ouch!

Okay, okay...I screwed up, but she's no Velda! Besides, if I don't pack for her she will need an iron when she gets there.

Did you ever see that warning on new irons? "DO NOT USE THIS IRON ON CLOTHES YOU ARE WEARING!"

They had meannastyteenager in mind when they wrote that...

Morning DT'ers. Mike, Miguel, LoL... I'm really beginning to wonder if we'll even make-it to the spring-summer timeframe(after Blair's leaves office and we're(the US) technically & diplomatically isolated) before the wheels fall-off with thang's really turn to shi'ite.

From the American Thinker: BBC's further descent into multi-culti madness

It's not just the Beeb's madness...it's all of Eurabia's - and maybe even our own.

Coming-up next, NYSlimes reporter David Sanger to embed with al-Q, Iran's Revolutionary Guard.

#183 littleoldlady

LOL Glad to see you have a sense of humor about it -- which is more than we could say for Joan, huh?

You didn't screw up. If you did, we all did, 'cause none of them's perfect.

Say... since we're perfect, does that mean our mothers did something right?

Naw....

Say... since we're perfect, does that mean our mothers did something right?

Speaking only for myself and my own perfect mother, she did provide a great example of what NOT to do!

nonic,

Joan had a murderer on her hands. vis a vis meannastyteenager...well, I guess it's too early to tell...

;-)

Nonic
the lad needs a new firm.
auntie

#186 littleoldlady

she did provide a great example of what NOT to do

I know what you mean. Big time.

Many years ago (decades?) I saw a cartoon that I have often wished I had kept.

Woman speaking.

First frame, "Mother was controlling, so I was always careful to give my daughter plenty of autonomy."

Second frame, "Mother was critical, so I was always careful to avoid criticism and praise my daughter whenever possible."

Third frame... fourth... fifth, more of the same.

Sixth frame, "Now my daughter is just like my mother."

Oh, the irony.

Sixth frame, "Now my daughter is just like my mother."

Oh, the irony.

That's not at all funny. :-(

Syrian news agency inquired about Gemayel asassination 55 minutes before it occurred

#187 littleoldlady

well, I guess it's too early to tell...

I guess to find out you'd have to dump the old man and take up with some oily fop who appeals to her. LOL

Doesn't sound worth it.

my goal in life is TO BE like my Mother and to have the attributes of my Father.
may i be so Blessed.
auntie

#188 aunti

(or is it anti)

the lad needs a new firm.

No, the firm needs a new office manager. But I got a feeling they're gonna be sorry if they fire that one.

Steyn at his ever-continuing best...Iraq is just test of will for America

James Baker's "Iraq Study Group" seems to have been cast on the same basis as Liza Minnelli's last wedding. A stellar lineup: Donna Summer, Mickey Rooney, the Doobie Brothers, Gina Lollobrigida, Michael Jackson, Mia Farrow, Little Anthony and the Imperials, Jill St. John. That's Liza's wedding, not the Baker Commission.
{fast forwarded}
God, I can't go on. I'd rather watch Mia Farrow making out with Mickey Rooney to a Doobie Brothers LP. As its piece de resistance, the Baker Commission concluded its deliberations by inviting testimony from -- drumroll, please -- Sen. John F. Kerry. If you're one of those dummies who goofs off in school, you wind up in Iraq. But, if you're sophisticated and nuanced...

I guess to find out you'd have to dump the old man and take up with some oily fop who appeals to her. LOL

OY! With that image in my brain I may never sleep again...

auntie,

You're very lucky! :-)

#194 nonic

"aunti (or is it anti)"

ok, thank you.
auntie

#190 littleoldlady

Sixth frame, "Now my daughter is just like my mother." Oh, the irony. That's not at all funny. :-(

See, I got away with it (doing the opposite of what my mother did) because I had all sons.

Boys are not perfect, no. But they're... different. Less lethal somehow. LOL

Less emotion, anyway.

Less lethal somehow.

That's it - exactly! :-)

Okay, now I really need to get going.

Good day, ALL!™ redux

Ironic that the same thread that is demanding where are the women's rights folk has now come to this:
#198 nonic

See, I got away with it (doing the opposite of what my mother did) because I had all sons.

Boys are not perfect, no. But they're... different. Less lethal somehow. LOL

Less emotion, anyway."

auntie and i will be anti that crap anyday

Morning everyone,
this is way too early to be up...coffee...coffee...

littleoldlady
auntieinfidel
any other old broads lurking
granny?
mama?

I watch a lot of movies. Lately I've been watching some of the old "women's movies." Like Mildred Pierce, which I had never seen before.

The other day I saw one, again that I had never seen before, Old Acquaintance, 1943 with Bette Davis and Miriam Hopkins. What a terrific movie.

Bette is a serious literary writer, an intelligent and lonely old maid. Miriam is a total pain-in-the-ass spoiled housewife with a too-good-for-her husband and a daughter and takes up writing romance novels -- which are hugely successful. The story follows them over more than 20 years, through loves lost and found and lost again.

There is some GREAT witty dialogue. And at least one scene so funny that I dragged a couple of my sons in to see, and they laughed out loud.

IMDB
amazon

I can't comment on the following without cussing-up-a-storm: Israel accused of violating truce

...especially having just read crap like the following: Palestinian Premier Due to Visit Iran Now there's a real 'peaceful' prospect. Or how about this bullshi'ite: Stone Laying Ceremony

HH the Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani and Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya taking part in the foundation stone laying ceremony of the Al Quds Endowment Tower project in Doha yesterday.

#200 auntieinfidel

Have you raised any sons and/or daughters?

#204 nonic

"Have you raised any sons and/or daughters?"

do you really want to imply that unless someone has done X Y or Z they musn't speak of?
will give you benefit of doubt and assume you do not and are being some sort of irrational woman. how does that sound?
auntie

I gotta go with nonic on this one. If you ain't done it, you ain't done it. And all the reading in the world won't change that.

#205 auntieinfidel

It sounds to me like you make a habit of baiting people as your way of introduction.

Strange way to make friends and influence people -- but, hey, go for it.

Iowa becomes Umma:

Politicians welcome radical Islamists - as Ibrahim Dremali wages da'wa Jihad from the Islamic Center of Des Moines

Iowa Muslims are waging political, and demographic Jihad aimed at transforming Iowa into the first state in the United States of Allah. Last year Governor Tom Vilsack was praised for his dhimmitude by radical Islamist Ibrahim Dremali , Imam of the Islamic Center of Des Moines, when he proclaimed 'Muslim Recognition Day' and Des Moines Mayor Cownie followed suit, making Iowa's transformation to the Umma official.

For their part Muslims could not contain their glee at the blissful submission displayed by public officials and saw their public acknowledgement of Islam and regarded it as the first step before conversion. "For the first time, members of four area mosques welcomed Iowans to "join in the making of history and get a taste of what it feels to be a Muslim."
Emboldened by sucess Iowa Muslims quickly announced their own mayoral candidate and Sol Mohammed wrote in the Iowa Muslim newsletter that:
In addition to the dhimmitude of local politicians Iowa Muslims have been exploiting taxpayer funding and state and federally funded institutions to promote their political, social and educational Jihad. An example of the degree to which Muslims are attempting to main stream Islamism in Iowa can be seen in the fact that The 1st conference of the Islamic Foundation of Iowa did not take place in a mosque, but was held at at the taxpayer funded Central Middle School in Waterloo Iowa, despite having being a religious gathering with unmistakeably Islamo supremacist agenda : "The practical structure of building an Islamic society -Come to know the future visions and plans for Muslims in Iowa."

[SNIP]

Read the rest here

#206 mike
"If you ain't done it, you ain't done it. And all the reading in the world won't change that."

in the future please verify that you have been:
a muslim
a democrat
a liberal
a Jew
a Christian
etc b4 you speak of

thankyou, auntie

# 207 nonic

Does this seem strangely familiar somehow ? Does to me.

Mike

Glad to see you're back to hold down the fort.

As it were. :-)

'Cause I gotta go now. Have a good day.

# 209

I'm 3 for 5 on that list. As to your requirements, bite me.

Oops. Gotta say hi and bye to Babba.

:-)

Gone.

# 211 nonic

Have as good a one as possible under the circumstances.

Mornin' all!

nonic: I can't wait to use that line on my company's travel dept: "I only fly El Al"!

And no more emails after sundown on Friday!

Any firm is really asking for trouble by trying to save $150 on a hotel room. A law firm? Trying to save a buck? WTF? Isn't it all OPM to lawyers?

Morning Dead Thread Heads.

The most amazing clouds rolling by this morning. High altitude ripples lit up pink and peach with the rising sun.

Groan, groan, groan...in point of fact, I could really give a shi'ite: End is near in Babylon

FRENCH President Jacques Chirac’s warnings in 2003 that a US invasion of Iraq would set the Mideast on fire{so what?}, encouraging terrorism{what doesn't encourage Islamic terrorism? That's the answer to a question most what to hear} and producing a disaster{what's the disaster? Sunni & Shi'a killing each other? Would anyone in the West prefer having their country attacked?} have been tragically borne out by events. Iraq is falling ever deeper into chaos and sectarian conflict{there‘s a lot to be said for ‘civil war‘}. Lebanon teeters on the brink of civil war{Live with a terrorist group at control, you expect paradise maybe ? See above}. The agonies of Palestine — now the world’s largest outdoor prison{Good!} — continue without relent. Iran’s power and influence are surging{Now there's a short-order for Sunni IBS(irritable bowel syndrome), if ever there were - see all of the above}.

#206 Mike C.

All depends too on how close you have been to children in your life. I am childless but there are 9 kids I can think of off hand in the last 25 years who spent enough time with me in my house under my supervision to think of me as their 2nd mother... and because my mother was such a POS I basically raised my little sister, even though I was a kid myself at the time too.

However, that being said, it is never the same as raising someone yourself 24-7-365, my life is still my life, I get to send them home eventually and then go be selfish and do whatever I want. If they are yours you can't do that till they move out, and sometimes not even then.

But you can get an excellent sense of child raising and influence their life big time without being an actual mom either.

My friends who have young children come to me more for advice than to their friends who HAVE children, maybe I am more sensitive to the kids themselves having NOT had any and appreciating the time I do get with them?

So... I have a way with kids and vital experience but no kids of my own, which doesn't make me a mother, but it doesn't put me in the clueless category either.

Morning Geepers, that sounds magnificent.

Bye nonic!

#215 bp sf

Isn't it all OPM to lawyers?

Okay, okay, I'm not gone yet.

You know, it didn't occur to me, but maybe the CLIENT insists on shared rooms to save costs, and the dippy office manager didn't really get it.

Hi nonic!

LOL

aboo-Hoo-Hoo (#217),

From your link:

Iraq is falling ever deeper into chaos

I wish the press would give us a chaos meter or start qualifying their chaoses.

Normal everyday chaos. Slightly chaos. Medium-well chaos. Super double plus ultra chaos. OMFG chaos.

# 218 BZ

I thought I knew what raising kids would be like. The reality was, uh, just a bit diferent from my expectations. Go figure.

Babba

Oh, I agree, you don't have to have personally gestated, birthed, and raised kids to know something (even A LOT) about them. But you do need to have some kind of experience with them. Sounds like you had plenty. And I'm sure they were lucky for it, too.

Really, I gotta go. (She says, refreshing just one more time.)

(What is this? A f*cking addiction?)

#180 mike c
your absolutely correct,any other arrangment is totally unacceptable.

BabbaZee (#219),

It truly is. Now the sun's cleared the horizon and they're all white and blue. I've never seen such perfectly repeated swirls and ridges. Just like the ripples in a stream.

#223 geepers
I thought that the definition of chaos was the middle east(exept isreal the only country with its shit together)

Geepers

#224 Mike C.
LOL Of course, I am CERTAIN it is true.

{nonic} have a good one

# 226 B S B

I may be easy, but I'm not cheap.

Clinton’s Talks With Democrats May Signal ’08 Bid.

Senator Clinton’s outreach was disclosed and confirmed yesterday by three New York Democratic officials, all on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized by the Clinton camp to release the information. One of the officials said he was contacted by Senator Clinton directly about her plans. The two others said they were informed by senior Clinton advisers that she was entering a new phase of contacting officials to line up support for a possible presidential bid.

Almost official then.

#212 Mike
"I'm 3 for 5 on that list. As to your requirements, bite me."

will decline that offer. perhaps someday you will get it, perhaps some day you won't.
that you are comfortable with one must do/be in order speak thereof is not something i subscribe to, never have never will. at the risk of sounding asshat lib am willing to listen to anyone. why in the world should thier view be discounted based on their pedigree of experience? have Faith that you will grasp this very 101 concept in the future.
auntie

Speaking of motherhood, here is Satan's version:

Muslimah held in UK for not disclosing husbands planned Jihad and martyrdom
- wrote of sacrificing child

December 3, 2006

MIM:

Translation

Muslimah held in English cell for terrorism

A Dutch Muslimah as been arrested in the UK on suspicion of involvement in terrorism. Her Syrian English husband the 27 year oldYassin N. has been behind bars since May 30th. British justice officials are accusing the Moroccan Muslimahof keeping silent about her husbands terrorism plans. Which is a crime in the UK since 2000.

According to prosecuters Bouchra had written a letter in which she rejoiced in her husbands martyrdom plans for jihad. She also glorified her own martyrdom and was prepared her to sacrifice her 1 year old son Mohammed. Her lawyer said she never intended to engage in terrorism and her glorification of holy war only had 'poetic' meaning.
Investigators searched her home in Eindhoven and the home of Bouchra's parents. The couples apartment in London was also searched. The police confiscated her husband's laptop and found a martyrdom letter. The couple was arrested on May 30th at Luton airport. The woman was released. She was rearrested on September 7th. The trial against the couple will begin 2007.

[Link: www.zibb.nl...]

Top 11 Reasons to attend Texas Da'wah conference
"Guest Shaykh will shoot airball with the brothers"

And with her words she proves her point:

"I like living here because I don't fit into the bad side of American psychology. The British are much more intelligent and civilized than the Americans," says Gwyneth Paltrow

Gwyneth honey, I think you'll find the dinner conversation more "intelligent" than you're accustomed to no matter where you sit down.

#232 Mid E
so why are they talking if sworn to privacy?
the trial balloons are rising, stick a pin in them!
auntie

This from the bitch who named her kid APPLE

BabbaZee (#229),

Thanks. The only problem when it's cold is I don't get to hear the bird songs with the windows closed.

You know what I would like to see on LGF? Some place where general threads could be purused in more depth. There are many very smart and perhaps even a few wise people (from whom I want to learn!) here, and it seems to me that with a place dedicated to more drawn-out, deliberative dialogs we might shed some real light on the issues of the day.

I mean, let's face it, after four or five years how productive is it to repeat the same pithy remarks about the negative aspects of Islam ad nauseum? I'd like to hear from people in more detail: why is Islam recrsescent just now, what can we do about it in detail (concrete plans, not generalized injunctions).

Don't get me wrong, Charles provides an incredibly important service to the Western world by reporting things which would otherwise get buried. I am in no way suggesting the basic LGF model needs to be "fixed". I'm saying it could be supplemented so that ideas could be fleshed out in more detail rather than just scrolling away after a few hours.

The chat area seems to be a success and I think it is a great addition, however it is actually the opposite of what I'm suggesting. Chat areas are even more ephemeral than the "scolling posts" model, so it mostly becomes a place to, well, chat instead of analyze, discuss or constructively debate.

An area where "popular" threads kept bubbling back to the top (i.e., ranked by most activity) might work. It would have to be a "paged" interface since such threads on other boards can grow very large.

Any thoughts?

ABC news in breathless voice:
Rumsfeld wrote this memo as if he knew of his resignation!

#239 Geepers
I miss that in the cold too... since my sleeping habits are more cat than human many times I get all bundled up and go outside at 4-5 AM even in the blizzardy weather to have coffee with the birds, because I miss that so much.

#236 Geepers

Fine, the Brits can keep the ungrateful beeyotch. Perhaps we can talk them into taking the Dixie Twits, too...

Palestinians suspected of plot in Egypt

(just in Egypt?)

#242 BZ

You should go skiing... ;)

Good Morning Y'all from a beautiful, sunny and coldish
(37 degrees going all the way up to 52)Charlotte!
How's everyone this morning?

#240 PBC
start your own, LGF for all of it's warts is one blog. it is not incumabnt for Charles to.
auntie

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." - Thomas Jefferson

Pro-Bush Canuck (#240),

I wouldn't mind a more formal debate on certain issues. That would delve deeper into the undercurrents.

Maybe a topic question of the day.

#247 auntieinfidel

It's a possibility. Just to reiterate, I wasn't suggesting that there is anything wrong with the current LGF, but just as the addition of chat improves the overall experience a more in-depth facility might also.

#249 Geepers

Maybe a topic question of the day.

I like that idea. It could be set off from the news articles sort of how chat is now.

#242 {BabbaZee} - You go outside in "blizzardly" weather to have coffee with the birds, eh? How do they like it - black, light and sweet, "regualar" or what? And how do they feel about you waking 'em up at 4-5 AM? In that kind of weather I'll bet there not all that chatty!

;>'

#245 christheprofessor
LOL! NOoooOOOooOO! [watch out for that TRRREEEeee]

#249 Geepers 12/3/2006 05:07AM PST

Topic question of the day is good.
But I am sure there will still be pithy comments interspersed between the meat, we are a decidedly satirical bunch here, LOL

#252 {realwest}

LOL they don't shut up!

Go Navy!

Secretary of the Navy Donald C. Winter vetoed plans to commission the Makin Island, the Navy's newest and most powerful warship, in San Francisco in 2008 because of a perception that the city is anti-military.

Perhaps we can get the Brits to take SF, as well...

I was wondering, and perhaps some legal type could comment:

I have had small items siezed at airport security, recently. Nail scissors, a pcket knife and some gourmet barbecue sauce. (Yes, barbecue sauce, fer fuck's sake!)

Not items big enough for me to kick up a stink, but small stuff.

Do the security contracors put this stuff up for auction and if they do, could I have them charged with theft?

I just have this feeling that the stuff I see them sieze off passengers does not tget thrown away.

I think at the very least the security checkpoints should have some type of system, say a FED-EX box nearby, so you could ship items back to yourself.

#253 BabbaZee

But I am sure there will still be pithy comments interspersed between the meat

Heh. "Pithy" was the wrong word on my part. The little nuggets are a big reason I come here! I was thinking more about the repetition of the same idea a zillion times. E.g., "Must be the Amish" every time a bomb goes off.

#249 Geepers - Morning Geepers. A topic question of the day? Sounds like a good idea, except that on any given day, Charles may post a thread which hundreds (if not a thousand or so) may jump on everyday anyway.
Do you mean Charles should pick a topic or topic question of the day and post a thread on it? How is that gonna wind up different than what we have now?
(sorry, haven't had coffee yet - I just gotta get a new coffee maker).

#247 auntieinfidel

For someone who is supposedly "new" and registered on 11/26/06 you have been consistently, boldly and quite unnecessarily belligerent...

Are you trying to start fights with every other poster?

What's yer beef?

#257 Pro-Bush Canuck

hahha YES I know exactly what you mean.
I would like Geeper's ideas I think.

Although someone did say Lemurians instead of Amish the other day and THAT was pithy!
;~P

#256 whiterasta

I think at the very least the security checkpoints should have some type of system, say a FED-EX box nearby, so you could ship items back to yourself

Most airports have something like this, and will direct you to a location where you can mail your belongings back home. Problem is you have to go through security lineup all over again.

I've simply taken to checking one of my bags. So far they haven't lost it since August, including on such one-day odysseys as San Diego->Reno->Philadelphia->Boston->Hal ifax.

Dutch court convicts Islamists.

A Dutch court has sentenced four militant Islamists to prison for planning terror attacks on politicians and the Dutch intelligence service.

Samir Azzouz, 20, was sentenced to eight years while three others received terms of between three and four years.

Some of the group were alleged to have links to the so-called Hofstad group, whose leader was convicted of the killing of film-maker Theo Van Gogh.

Two other defendants were acquitted of terror charges.

The presiding judge said Dutch-Moroccan Azzouz, the ringleader of the group, had been striving to carry out his terrorist aims for several years.

The court ruled that evidence presented in the case suggested that Amsterdam-born Azzouz was planning an "imminent terror attack".

---

Prosecutors claimed that the loosely-linked group was an extension of the Hofstad group, whose leader Mohammed Bouyeri is currently serving life in prison for murdering Mr Van Gogh..

Mild sentences, but it's a start. The Dutch's are beginning to wake up

#237 auntieinfidel

the trial balloons are rising, stick a pin in them!.

Heh, that would be fun. But the dems have to run someone. And I don't no who's the worst. They all sucks.

Babba

Are you trying to start fights with every other poster?

OK, so it's not just me.

I thought I was seeing a pattern but being an Apprentice Idiot, I sometimes get things wrong.

#255 christheprofessor - Morning Chris! Why do you dislike the Brits so much that you'd stick 'em with San Francisco? I'd druther give it to, say New Zealand or some such other sorta-friendly-to the US place.

256 white.

I have had small items siezed at airport security, recently. Nail scissors, a pcket knife and some gourmet barbecue sauce.

Wait till you start seeing those Naked X-rayed pictures of women and pilots in British newspaper Rags...

Pro-Bush Canuck (#251),

You could engender some serious discussions.

How did the rise of whabbism change islam?

Like you said, some smart people here. Mostly not doing much real debating or research anymore.

#263 Village Idiot's Apprentice
Your voodometer seems to be working fine!

#259 BabbaZee 12/3/2006 05:17AM PST

#247 auntieinfidel

For someone who is supposedly "new" and registered on 11/26/06 you have been consistently, boldly and quite unnecessarily belligerent...

Are you trying to start fights with every other poster?

Auntie was doing this the other day too Babba. She really let loose on Miguel. No clue what the wild hair is tho.

#265 ibmkeyboard

Those devices represent one of the few times the authorities are actually being pro-active. They have figured out what even my 13 year-old niece deduced on her own: the next logical move by the Islamists is to implant a bomb inside the body of a "martyr".

Of course a seperate, intense screening process for Muslims as they do in Israel would be much cheaper and more efficient, but...

#264 realwest

Good morning... I don't dislike the Brits, I was just playing off of some anti-American tripe that Gwyneth "Couldn't Act Her Way Out of A Wet Paper Bag" Paltrow spewed...

#268 galloping granny

[oy]

Morning Granny!

As to the pithy threads concept, I sometimes hang here.

The basic premise seems to be that when someone comments on a thread, it drags the thread back to the top of the stack. So, a thread could set idle for several hours or days. Then someone says something, and it jumps back up to the top.

It does make it easire to see where the commenting action is.
But I don't see how Charles could blend that idea into LGF without creating a real hybrid multifaceted nuculear something or other.

Morning realwest.

Seems like a topic for discussion thread would be straight forward enough to stay on target.

#266 Geepers

We have so many perspectives here, and the old "two heads are better than one" thing applies as well. I guess I'm musing along the lines of "think tank", but not so formal.

I mean, LGF has broken massively important stories already (memogate) and no doubt will continue to do so. There are hundreds of people here with expertise and knowledge in various fields. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to distill all that down to some genuine, workable suggestions about how we might move forward? We sure aren't getting anywhere with the Democratic Party (and Canada could always slip back to the Liberal Party).

LGF probably has one of the highest densities of people who think critically about Islam anywhere--without the hindrance of political correctness to skew and distort ideas.

Good morning!

Hail Writer Mom!

pro Bush Canuck:

.."Most airports have something like this, and will direct you to a location where you can mail your belongings back home..."

Yes, but not at Toronto Pearson or Heathrow.

I just get the feeling someone is making a peat-pot full of money selling this stuff.

#275 WriterMom

Is it a beautiful morning in Toronto like it is here on the East coast?

They dont need internal bombs..

Just break off some Russian 210 nuke materials.